Liverpool Banter Archive July 06 2013

06 Jul 2013 23:44:21
Don't give up on our chances of signing Mickey just yet, as I have important new information.
My brother in law owns a fancy dress shop in Liverpool.
Yesterday afternoon Brendan Rodgers and Ian Ayre came into the shop and hired traditional German menswear, the full rig out including below the knee Lederhosen with traditional belt and braces, silk shirt, long white socks and hiking boots, they completed the look with false Kaiser Wilhelm moustaches and oktoberfest hat.
My brother in law said by the time they left the shop they looked the real deal.
Apparently the plan is to head Mickey off at Dortmund airport disguised as Germans and sign him up.
Fingers crossed they can pull it off and be back on Merseyside before Dortmund get wind of what were up to.

Awesome news. Thanks for passing on the information.

Now go take a nap. You need it.

. and he will still turn you down.

06 Jul 2013 23:59:55
classic kidd.Tommy Irish Red

Tommy you sound like alan partridge, son. Time for bed.

You sound like me Tommy! Aha!

06 Jul 2013 23:20:07
Could the fact we are willing to allow Wisdom to go on loan meand are about to agree a deal for a defender?

Seems strange when we haven't yet strengthened enough in this position to allow a player to leave who can cover two positions.


Jonesred {Ed030's Note - Not really mate although it's possible. }

It's Danny Rose.

06 Jul 2013 23:04:33
Now that it's likely we will miss out on Mickey, who do you see as realistic targets as our 'attacking midfielder' that BR is looking for?

06 Jul 2013 23:11:15
Now kirkic has signed for Ajax and HM going to dortmund, is it more likely we move for Erickson

No we will move for Eriksen only when Ajax signs Higuain, Fabregas and Pepe Reina. Unless they sign those three, we are DEFINITELY not moving for Eriksen.

06 Jul 2013 22:45:05
Hi Eds,

Which of the following (if any) do you believe the club may pursue for the CAM role?

a) Eriksen

b) Pjanic

c) Feghouli

d) Wijnaldum

e) Piazon

Regards {Ed030's Note - Eriksen and possibly Pjanic but that's just an opinion. }

Mickey. It's not over yet.

I would love to see Marek Hamsik in LFC next season

06 Jul 2013 22:25:18
Eds! What's all this Suarez to Chelsea nonsense? I hope that he stays but if he leaves to Chelsea he's a real toss face in my opinion. Crying like a baby about media yet bringing al this negative attention on himself and the club no less! I think when you're paid a mountain of money a week the least u can do is not be a racist and not be a cannibal. Just lace your boots up and give everything u have on the pitch. These footballers really believe they are bigger than the club they represent and it's sickening. Something has to be done about these leeches. {Ed030's Note - Just rumours mate,Don't worry about it. }

06 Jul 2013 23:23:41
Liverpool have matched the 25m euro bid that Dortmund made last night. We're not out of the race boys! Have faith!

Cheers BC

06 Jul 2013 23:08:32
Hi eds, what's happening with Lucas barrios these days? Was loads linked to him including Liverpool a year ago and he's kinda disappeared? Where is he now? Have we or any other premier league team got an interest in him now? Jayo {Ed030's Note - I liked Barrios and I believe he is playing in China please correct me if I am wrong. }

Yeah China Ed would be available for a nominal fee though.

Jonesred {Ed030's Note - Would be a very good signing but he must be 29,30 now? }

06 Jul 2013 22:02:13
Hi eds impressive frm suso tonight do u think suso can break into starting xi than sterling "young maxi from Ghana an African with red heart of lfc guys here what are u saying of me" thanks eds {Ed030's Note - I have no idea of your question sorry mate,Any chance you could re-phrase it. }

Ed, I think that is-
“Hi eds impressive from suso tonight do u think suso can break into starting xi like sterling. And what about young maxi from Ghana? an African with red heart. What about you lfc guys on here, do you agree with me?”

He is wondering if Suso will be prefered to Sterling.

BKP {Ed030's Note - Ok thanks mate,Yeah I hope and think so mate. }

06 Jul 2013 21:58:10
Hi Eds & Reds,

I was just wondering can you see Robbo been loaned out again this season or do you think he can push on and really challenge Enrique this season? I can see Flanno going out on loan to get some game time.

Also do you think Morgan & Yesil will get more game time? {Ed030's Note - I think Robbo will go out on loan personally,Yesil would have probably made some first team appearances last season but for the injury as I said earlier I don't see Morgan making it tbh. }

06 Jul 2013 21:53:49
Classic rumour this, one I'm sure Ed002 will love to shout down but nevertheless the source seemed sincere.

Suarez is either going to Real or Chelsea.
Rodgers wants a player plus cash exchange.
In Real's case he wants Ozil plus 15m
In Chelsea's case he wants Edin Hazard plus 10m.

Dream on mate if suarez was going to chealsea it will be more like 25 mill plus torres in exchange deal. Or if there was an exchange deal for real it would be 30 plus modric, 35 plus xabi, 25 plus benzema, or 25 plus di maria

What a load of kak so funny if i'm depressed I will read this

mayhem 1981

That's just ridiculous.

Did it ever occur to you that these players would have willing to move to us? Wee snag there mate!.

I guess your going to pay hazard 200,000 a week or ozil's 150,000 per week then.

Lil Red

06 Jul 2013 21:45:13
Mario gomez for 18 m pounds. Why don't we sign? {Ed030's Note - Would be good but we can't sign every player that's getting linked with other clubs. }

He is a slower older Andy Carroll.

06 Jul 2013 21:41:26
Hi eds. Can you confirm which players Liverpool are actually interested in and isn't just rumours?
Keep up the good work!
Red For Life. {Ed030's Note - Search function. }

06 Jul 2013 15:46:05
Hi eds, hope your enjoying your weekends.

Just a quick question about Joao Carlos Teixeira, is he highly rated by the coaches at the club? Does he have a future at the club {Ed030's Note - I don't know if he is highly rated by the club but I highly rate him and I think he should be given a few first team opportunities next season. }

06 Jul 2013 20:52:06
Has anyone heard anything re developing Anfield? Until we can get attendances of 55 - 60k plus and increase our commercial and excecutive income off the back of this this we will struggle {Ed030's Note - It has been announced what's happening try the search function if you wan't to find out mate. }

Cheers Ed appreciate the reply been out the country the last few weeks so missed that. Good work on the new search function hope it makes all the Eds lives easier

06 Jul 2013 20:55:26
How to balance the squad and leave room for emerging talent whilst making a 30m profit on player sales from here on in and saving 12m per annum on the wage bill.

Wilfried Bony 13.7m
Christian Eriksen 13.7m
Toby Alderweireld 9m
Xabi Alonso 9m
Tiago Ilori 4m
Gerard Deulofeu - Loan
Total - 50m

Luis Suarez 40m
Pepe Reina 9m
Martin Skrtel £9m
Lucas Leiva 9m
Stewart Downing 8m
Jay Spearing 3m
Oussama Assaidi 2m
Sebastian Coates (Loan)(
Total - 80m Save c12m pa

Mignolet; Johnson, Toure, Agger, Enrique; Gerrard, Alonso, Eriksen; Aspas, Sturridge, Coutinho

Jones; Wisdom, Alderweireld, Ilori, Kelly; Henderson, Allen, Alberto; Borini, Bony, Deulofeu

Sterling, Ibe, McLaughlin, Jones, Coady, Texeira

Suso, Robinson - Loan {Ed030's Note - I agree mate apart from a few small things 10 new players would be way to many,I had to delete the wages part sorry mate,It will only end up in you or us receiving unnecessary stick so sorry mate but good post. }

So selling Lucas for the same amount as you would pay for Alonso is good buisness Ed?
How old is Alonso? surely we would be having to replace him in a couple of years whilst Lucas could play well past that. Seems a very short term flawed way of thinking to me and I've not looked at the parts. {Ed030's Note - I suppose it is,Alonso in the short term perhaps 2 years would offer Liverpool alot more than Lucas would and maybe would be the difference between us and the champions league then we could replace Alonso with someone better than Lucas however I would advise Liverpool to keep Lucas as he is a player I quite like. }

I would have to agree with ed 10 players is too many I would have to choose alderwield, alonso and prob bony out of the players. think hendo could do a job as an attacking midfielder if given the chance {Ed030's Note - Same mate although Bony is of to Swansea well nearly anyway. }

Have you seen Bony play? He's the yak mk2, probaly why the interest from top clubs is low as well as the price.
he definitely would not fit in at LFC. {Ed030's Note - He is far better than Yakubu,He is quicker stronger better finisher and all round better player. }

Second poster is missing the point. The good business is getting highly paid players off the wage bill if we can get better ones on lower wages. Alonso the clear exception. Chelsea would sign Alonso but you do not think we should even if we save oodles overall? That midfield is way, way, way better than Lucas, Gerrard, Henderson. Losing Reina, Skrtel, Lucas & Downing would not weaken Liverpool, quite the opposite if Mignolet, Alderweireld, Alonso & Aspas filled their shoes. Eriksen is way more creative and likely to get a goal than Hendo. He should be converted to a DM with energy and decent passing. Allen to deputise for Alonso and learn from the master.

Sorry, but Alonso needs someone like Lucas beside him winning the ball back. If anything, Alonso would be a replacement or rotation for Stevie G in our current system. And that's not an upgrade. {Ed030's Note - Alonso played next to Gerrard for Liverpool on numerous occasions and plays next to Khediera for Madrid who is nothing like Lucas. }

Both Alonso & Gerrard sit deep, neither have lost it, oth great passers, great understanding. Really not a problem.

Why not sell allen instead of lucas wouldn't that make us stronger a half the player he can be is far better than allen a good pre season he will be back to his best prove them wrong again my son back in the brazil squad aim our bonus

mayhem 1981

Sorry Ed030 this is a riducolous post - this isn't football manager!

Bony, Eriksen and Alonso will not be signing, and Lucas, Suarez and Downing are unlikely to leave. {Ed030's Note - I didn't write it mate and I said that they will not be coming in. }

The Gerrard, Mascherano and Alonso midfield worked because you had a spreader (Alonso), a grafter (Masch) and a buzzer (Gerrard). Gerrard is no longer a buzzer but a spreader and I don't believe that Alonso has the speed or tackling to be a grafter instead of Lucas. Plus he is older. It simply does not make sense to me. I love Alonso but do not see where he would fit with Stevie these days.

Andy K

06 Jul 2013 20:47:10
Sorry to bother you eds but I replied to a rather rude reply by waro yesterday, who decided to mock my name when I challenged a post by him, it doesn't seem to have made it on the site though, was my post that abusive? I could tone it down a bit.

Lil Red {Ed030's Note - Im sorry mate,We don't have the ability to look through earlier posts mate. }

So your actual real name is Lil red? That must have been one bizarre christening. Stop moaning and man up, I've replied to abusive posts about me in the past and my reply's haven't been shown. And if you call that a rude reply your easily upset lad.

Waro

Waro only posts to get a reaction out of people mate. He goes against the grain and any kind of rational thought just to be controversial on purpose to serve some kind of dark fetish or thrill.
It's best to leave him alone and starve off the attention he is obviously lacking in his real life.
The eds do a good job at making him look a show, as do a few posters.
He only feels good when a few vegetables get sucked into his trap and say he's standing by his morals etc. he has no morals, he's deliberately annoying on purpose.

MIKEY

MIKEY your really sad as you reply to more or less everything I post, you should practice what you preach and starve me " as you have so eloquently put it " of attention! You have no counter opinion to anything I post you just brown nose as many posters as you can because your another strength in numbers poster who can't do it on his own, let me guess, your from Birkenhead right? Do us both a favour and swerve my posts because attention from posters like you I don't crave!

Waro

p.s. looking forward to lil's reply to your post, you will no doubt brown nose each other in to a frenzy

Waro is that good he can even wind himself up.

Don't stress about it, Lil Red. Replying to waro is the online equivalent of punching air. He changes his mind and contradicts himself enough without any help.

Your right he is a hard man traped in a wimps body. You can see it in every post he does right down to the name he uses.

You know what f**k wasting time on like you waro, if you're not hating on the club, your beefing with another fan. It shows how much of a fan you are when you back up every negative post about the club. Now be gone you baffoon of a fan. P.s get a brain how many fans actually use their real name on the site.

Lil Red

A message specifically for Waro. Instead of the constant negative rhetoric, please explain to us all the following:- had you taken over the club after the H+G era, how would you have gone about rebuilding the club? Who would you rather have as manager currently? Who, in an ideal world, would you sign this summer? If you had taken over as manager yourself instead of Rodgers, how would you have gone about trimming a bloated squad on high wages better than he has? Also, what do you see as the best way this current Liverpool set up could get back to the top of the tree in the premier league and Europe? Answers on a postcard.

06 Jul 2013 22:30:07
Cheers mighty reds, thanks for the compliment.

Waro

06 Jul 2013 22:44:10
Well well well, the usual names scuttle out from behind the skirtingboard, there's 1 or 2 still missing but I expect there on there way. KUMBER, don't you worry flower, I can more than take care of myself, I could elaborate on that but the ed's wouldn't show this post, but trust me, I am more than willing to come out from behind my keyboard. Captain, i've got work at 6 in the morning so this is my last post, but I will answer that question tomorrow, I will need your address if you want it on a postcard though;-)

Waro

****o it doesn't matter if Mikey is from Birkenhead or L1 we are all Liverpool fc! Do you want to look down on and hate on Indian red or Essex red because they don't fit into your narrow idea of what constitutes a Liverpool supporter? You probably do as both your brain cells when not fighting are spewing bile vitriol and hatred indiscriminately to all and sundry!
We are(all)Liverpool fc and rightly proud of our vast worldwide support!
You on the other hand just bring us all down.
In Buck we trust!

He can't reply to that captain because he knows his way would see us relegated down to the bottom tier. Eds, I don't see why you post these sort of responses or comments. They aren't banter if it's used just to drive others insane. It really contributes nothing to a semi-educated football discussion. Nothing of Waro's or of those calling Waro out seem to be about the club and football but rather his hate for fans who are in any way slightly positive. {Ed030's Note - It's there opinion,And no one's opinion is right or wrong that's why it your own opinion. }

God waro you have got to lil red there kid ha good banter though just cheered me up after that fight

mayhem 1981

I'm beginning to think Waro may be lying about his club colours seeing as all he seems to do on here is wind up the Liverpool supporters and seem quite self-satisfied about it. Strange way to relate to your fellow comrades if you ask me.

cozinoz

I did ignore you remember waro and told you I was going to do just that. but you continued to try and wind me up and drag me back into things in your posts, just proving me right.
I'm not from Birkenhead thanks I'm from Liverpool originally I just escaped to the Wirral. I would say cretins like you give the city and club a bad name but your not a supporter, not of Liverpool anyway.

MIKEY

Mayhem 1981 he hasn't got to me yet but if someone calls you out you have to come out. The reply was a warning shot to waro.

Lil Red

06 Jul 2013 20:43:23
Really good to see Martin Kelly back Training hard. Always rated him, much more highly than I do Johnson to be honest. If he can be injury free I think he could be really good this season. see him playing at CB quite a lot for us. He has all the attributes to be a very good player for us. Possesses excellent pace for a defender, tall, strong, good in the air, decent crosser just needs to find more composure on the ball I feel

Danny

Have to agree. Is it only me who thinks he looks like a copy of west.broms Jonas olsson?

chris {Ed030's Note - He is nothing like Olsson imo. }

It's the hairstyle he's on about. {Ed030's Note - I know,Still nothing like him. }

07 Jul 2013 10:15:56
Personally I see him as Carra's long term replacement, ad our future captain. Really pleased to see him back

If it were up to me Johnson would be 3rd choice behind Kelly and Wisdom. Sorry but I just don't rate him. At least he doesn't bring his England form to Liverpool.
derryred

06 Jul 2013 20:30:40
Gents, who do u thinkable is the best player in the Spain U20 side. For me, its Oliver Torres

Suso, Jese, Torres, Dealofeu are awesome. Alcacer and Suarez are quite good too.

RedKopite

06 Jul 2013 20:16:04
hi eds sorry if this has already been asked but is there any possibility glenn johnson could leave this summer? I personally feel we have a better rb in kelly and I don't believe it will be too long before kelly is 1st choice rb so surely it makes sense to get johnson's high wages off the payroll now {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

Johnson won't be going anywhere, he's the best attacking right back in the league.

Maybe true, kidmillions, but he's certainly not the best defending right back in the league ;)

06 Jul 2013 19:56:50
I have heard henrik may not join Dortmund after all the shakhatar chief has said the fee was not right for club have you heard anything

Sounds like he's trying to up the price

06 Jul 2013 19:21:39
i allways remember my dad saying to not believe everything you read.but he was old when buck rodgers was cool.but now many people have computers at home this is a good thing and so is this site, but it is not a susbstitute to actually going out and speaking to people, chatting about footy and also just dreaming about which players we'd like to have.really this site is just an extension of this.football is serious but life is fun also.this site has helped me when I was abroad to keep me feeling in the loop, now i'm back I still look whenever I can but you can't beat just randomly chatting to a stranger and sharing the same love for the same sport.kyb.

06 Jul 2013 19:07:19
I'm sure I'll get slated for saying this but why not use 10m of the Mkhitaryan money on Rakitic?
Can play a number of positions and scores plenty of goals.
Sell Suarez and buy Bony who would be a good option to rotate with Sturridge.
Use remaining money from Suarez sale to get the CB and CDM we need.
I don't see the urgent need for a covering LB.
Johnson is well capable of going in there with Kelly or Wisdom at RB if Enrique is out.
I'd be well happy with that window.
Would prefer to keep Suarez but he doesn't wanna be here so kick him to the kerb :) {Ed002's Note - If there is no Mkhitaryan then Rakitic makes some sense.}

06 Jul 2013 18:56:35
Lukaku and 34 million for suarez

We can only dream

Don

What if Luikaku is a one season wonder, who even if he isn't? Is not the most graceful of players and akin to a modern day Emile Heskey,

06 Jul 2013 18:29:44
I'm the only one happy, if we miss pout on HM.
shelling 30m for HM is personic. no matter what he brings to the club. also the player has said himself he needs the bags of money, he deserves.
not sure the right mentality . for a player we want.
HM was a risk like caroll.
he is just great potential

i think BR would just sign a CB and be done.
think obout potential we have, we don't need potentially good signings.
promising players like sterling, suso, ibe, alberto, texiera, wisdom, coutinho, yesil . that is talent and if it clicks this season .brilliant . elsewise it surely will the next season.
also all of them want to play for LFC and BR.
and I still haven't mentioned like of allen, henderson, sturridge, kelly, borini who have a bit underachieved and will be dying to step up their game. (all are immensly potential)
with the best captain in the world to look up to. I think its time lfc relies on the back of these young players.
even if the win the FA cup its going to boost them to eventual greatness.
yes we don't need "MARQUEE" signing.
i like the way team looks.
if some viable and affordable option comes in sure we can go in for it. but spending 30 mill on any player seems not worth it to me.
i still think its about hunger in football and not so much so as quality.
and we do have some outstanding quality that lacks experience. way forward is to give them experience.

just my opinion.
cant wait for the preseason to start.

also, I read a gerrard interview where he asked the youths to step up. and be men.
that pretty much tells lfc are not going to make any more signings, and BR believes in the youth he has in this team

and suarez - well I think he will be stay after seeing the preseason. But english media will make his life hell if he stays. he will be abjected to mockery.

Well said mate, would be more than happy if we signed no1 else and sold no1

All the best teams don't concede many. I had a heart attack every time we conceded a corner last season. Sort that out (buy a new CD or sort Skrtel out) and based on 2nd half of last season we can compete for 4th

Manutd have just won the League with a leaky defence.

06 Jul 2013 18:16:13
This is the truth regarding HM: shakter have received an offer from dortmund. It does not meet their full valuation, but is higher than £19.8m ( the amount HM needs to buy out his contract). Lfc want to pay this amount, but it is not in shakters interest. HM wants to come to lfc, hence no news on him agreeing to the transfer. Remember HM tweeted that he will tell his followers if and when their is news regarding his transfer. Has he tweeted? No! Because he is not going to dortmund. All lfc need is (a) meet the full amount of £25.5m or (b) MH to up the ante and put in a request or (c) reject shakters approach.

As things stand, I bet you MH will be a Lfc player by beginning of the season. Think why shakter has made the announcement and no news re medical or any news from Dortmund! The deal is alive! Just relax and watch how things will unfold.

Die hard fan!

I think he will be a BD player by the end of next week or the one after.
We lost out, no big deal move on and stop pretending some mysterious force will carry him to anfield
Roy

I think he may well be priced out of move to either. He's going to be very expensive to whoever gets him (30M+ all told seems like as the agent's fees seem to be disproportionately high according to all reports) so unless his owners/agents are willing to negotiate or the interested buyers are willing to authorize a significant amount of money he may well end up going nowhere.

06 Jul 2013 18:12:32
i know there has been a lot of rumours but who do you think are most likely to join us for next season

Mickey and Papa the greek.

06 Jul 2013 18:00:34
Hi Ed's,
Great work on the site as always,
Couple of quick questions,
With HM now out of the picture, who do you view as his replacement target? And do you expect the suarez saga to drag on till deadline day?
Thanks {Ed002's Note - RTP please.}

06 Jul 2013 17:37:57
I see much discussion over who replaces Suarez and where the goals will come from if he leaves and in my opinion I think he was effectively replaced as the central striker in January by Sturridge already. Most games after Sturridge signed Suarez played wider/slightly deeper for I think 2 reasons: 1) he's not the most clinical finisher and 2) he can be quite creative (when he picks his head up and actually passes). Looking at the numbers quickly, Suarez scored 18 goals prior to Sturridge and after only 7 (including a hat trick against Wigan) whereas Sturridge had 10 in the same time frame (granted there was 13 or so less games from January on and Suarez was banned for the last few), but either way I think it's fair to say that after Sturridge came in Suarez was less influential in terms of goal scoring than he had been previously.

My point is that it seems entirely reasonable that Sturridge could get maybe 20-25 goals for us (which offsets much of what Suarez would do in a similar role but would likely be done with far less shots) and I could see Aspas getting 10-15 or so if deployed in a similar wider role to what Suarez was doing 2nd half. Would we get more goals from Suarez than say Aspas or Mkhitaryan? Probably, but I don't think it would be a substantial amount more to be honest simply because he's not playing the straight CF position like he was for the first half. Abbreviated version is I think Rodgers is trying to build a front four diamond of players that could all potentially score 15+ goals per season rather than relying on a single individual for 30 of them. Could Suarez fit in that diamond? Certainly, but he's not absolutely necessary for it work either.

Listen to yourself. The team is weaker without Luis. Why where Bayern Munich sniffing around him when they already have the best team on the planet? Because he would make any team in world football a better one and Liverpool would be completely insane to sell him

I agree with you that, assuming there is no one in and just Luis out, the squad would be weaker than what we have. I do, however, reject the premise that without Luis we are doomed to mediocrity. He's a good footballer no doubt but there are lots of those out there and I do believe we could end up with a stronger overall team without him especially considering he's going to be banned for ~10-15% of next seasons games.

Individually you are correct in that there is unlikely to be anyone coming in who is individually as 'good' as Luis but thankfully there are 11 players on the pitch not just one and we've already got a very capable central striker who will undoubtedly score many, many goals.

If Suarez stays he will be available for selection and play and score more than most players in the Prem. The lad is made of steel and is never injured unlike the made of glass forwards in the premier including Sturridge.

06 Jul 2013 16:58:01
its frustrating to see arsenal snap up a player of higuain for 23m when we can't get mickey for 25m, why we didn't do a swap and cash for suarez, higuain and 20m for suarez, could have bought a decent centreback or two with that money

So. Can anyone tell me, in the current iteration of FIFA or Football manager or whatever, if you can force a player to sign for your team? Or do you still encounter the " is not interested in your team due to lack of champions league football" type of response in game?

Honest question, as I haven't played those games since I grew up and got a job.

SpudRed

Dont worry mate we've been looking at a norwegian by the name of Thor, rumour has it he's blessed with lightning pace and brutal some say unhuman strength he's treated like a god by his countrymen who yield to his every whim, needless to say he should fit right in with FSGs policy.

I've got my doubts about Higuain; he's definitely no Michu and could turn out to be a complete waste of money.

"He's definetely no Michu", what does this mean? Are you saying that Miguain is not to the quality of Michu or the value?

Andy K

06 Jul 2013 16:54:27
I'm lost with all this news on Mickey, the majority are stating he's at dortmund but there's not really anything I can find saying he's officially joined, i've also read rogers is flying out to speak to him?. just getting all a bit tiring trying to keep up.

06 Jul 2013 16:49:05
Think if we get a offer for Suarez then the deal can be rekindled. Liverpool had the deal for MK tied up last Friday. Will be gutted if we loose out on Mk and Suarez leaves as well. Maybe we should gamble that we'll get a offer for Suarez and get MK signed up.

06 Jul 2013 18:43:53
25 million isn't a gamble its a joke

06 Jul 2013 16:18:58
do Southampton maintain an interest in Enrique? {Ed002's Note - No.}

06 Jul 2013 16:02:53
Is it just me worried about us getting into the top 4? City have signed fernandinho and navas (who looks a realy good player) united ( linked with tiago alcantara and baines ( who will improve them) chelsea (who have signed two very good young players have essien and de bruyne coming back and there selling there weak link mikel) arsenal (possibly signing fellaini and higuain will transform them next year) and spurs who have just signed paulinho who look like a quality signing) everton on the other hand I can see falling mid table next year, then there's us, we've signed aspas mignolet toure and alberto, we've strengthened a little in attack, I feel allen and henderson will be better players this year but it won't be enough, in deference toure will probably be a squad player were going to have to really bring in another 2 or 3 players like mkitaryan papoudopulous/alderweid and another that will really change the first team, and that needs to happen if suarez stays, if suarez leaves we need a replacement ( a 20-30 goal a season striker) this would then hopefuly get us 5-6 in league then next summer we'll need another 2-3 world class players to push us into the champions league for when bale leaves spurs and they fall back to were we are now. If fsg want champions league football they need to get the money out!

We haven't got a prayer of getting top 4 this season. I think if we don't improve on 7th BR will be sacked and then it's just the same old story, swapping managers players ideas style ect. Need to start pushing this club up the league and stop buying time wasters like Aspas and Toure

To the second poster here, why don't you learn some manners! Slating Aspas and Toure as time wasters just shows you up for the level of person you are. Not just LFC, nor just this site but the whole planet would be a better place without ignorant Neanderthals like you.

06 Jul 2013 15:03:03
Hi Eds.

This question is not on actual or potential targets but more of your opinion.

What players (if you could name 2-3 that would be great) in your opinion would fit the mold of what BR was looking for in HM, and would potentially be within reach for Liverpool? Not financially within reach, more like they wouldn't balk at the idea of joining Liverpool.

Just trying to get an idea of what similar players there are out there.

Thanks a lot for all the great work you do! :) {Ed030's Note - Kevin De Bruyne,Christan Eriksen and Andriy Yarmolenkno are pretty similair imo mate. }

Andriy Yarmolenkno would be an exceptional buy Ed but unfortunately I don't think we are or will ever be interested.
Kevin De Bruyne is another quality player but not too sold on eriksen. He seems a creator rather than a goal scorer which we seem to be looking for.

Personally Ed,
If I was the club scout I would try and flog out Suarez for 40 million+ pounds and Downing for 6 million pounds and use all that money to buy andriy yarmolenko and his Ukranian team-mate Yevhen Konoplyanka.
What do you reckon Ed any chance of that happening?
I know its pretty much random names but WOW would we have an outstanding attack or what. {Ed002's Note - No. Yarmolenko looks set for a move to Italy. Konoplyanka has been subject to two significant offers from elsewhere - both of which have been turned down. Liverpool has shown no interest in the players.}

06 Jul 2013 15:23:40
Kristian adorjan to FC gronigen U-21's

06 Jul 2013 15:22:16
Does anyone know when spain U20's play next? I think has had an excellent tounament so far and should start this game after 2 assist coming on as a sub.


Ynwa

Today mate.

Thanks Amz, should be a good game.

Ynwa

Quarter final today at 7pm British time v Uruguay.

06 Jul 2013 14:37:20
Hi Eds,
not Liverpool related but I keep reading that Chelsea will sell Ba and Torres. Is it possible Eds that both of them will leave this summer? thanks. {Ed002's Note - Yes it is.}

06 Jul 2013 14:34:52
So we've lost out on mkhitaryan, best of luck to him going to Dortmund i'm sure that mistake won't haunt him forever :P now in all seriousness it appears that we will be requiring a midfielder in a similar style to mkhitaryan (learnt how to spell it for nothing). In my opinion Eriksen while possible probably wouldn't sign for us I say he'll stay and battle for a place with Maher at Ajax CL football etc. so who is left of reasonable quality Rakitic would be my favourite, Martin from Lille or Ayew from Marseille, the outside bet would be on Alan Dzagoev (fits the how the hell do you spell/say that, requirement) Ed's/anyone who do you want to see linked/signed in the AM role.

Thanks,
Kieran. {Ed002's Note - Maher has moved to PSV. There is a very good chance Andre Ayew will leave Marseille in the summer and the club accept this. Inter Milan, Arsenal and Dynamo Kyiv have already declared an interest in the player. Marseille has already lined up his replacement but no one has put an offer on the table just yet.}

My bad on Maher, thanks for the info anyways much appreciated
Kieran.

All irrelevant because Mkhitaryan will be a Liverpool player come the start of the season

Gaz wire

06 Jul 2013 14:13:27
Hi eds and reds

I would to say well done to the British and Irish Lions on a superb victory today and to their 2-1 series win. cherrs

Yep, they smashed us from the opening minute. A very impressive performance and were so much more up for it than we were.

Andy K

06 Jul 2013 13:49:51
will be out in force. As Ed002 has repeatedly said we have to live within our means. If Mickey was too expensive then it's up to the club to find a suitable player at the right price. So far BR and his team have made very smart signings this summer which I have no doubt in a few months time will be seen as bargains much like Coutinho already is. Reality Red

06 Jul 2013 13:32:51
Benteke would likely cost around 20 million. Is there any chance of a 19 million + downing deal?

So your implying downing is worth 1 million?

Young Red

£1 million is quite generous

06 Jul 2013 13:20:17
Hi reds and eds

So I see everybody is bitching and moaning that we "might" miss out on Mkhitaryan.

So let's say that you are Mkhitaryan, and you know the situation for the upcoming season,
now who would you sign for.

1. Borussia Dortmund (in champions league)
2. Liverpool F.C (no euro football)

and why?

Thanks for the brilliant site fellow reds and eds.

YNWA-SA

(P.S - Eds, why can't I find my previous post.) {Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}

06 Jul 2013 13:07:15
so shaktar's chief executive has come out and said dortmund still haven't matched their asking price of �30m for HM but a deal might be reached, has he actuallt signed for dortmund or not?

James

06 Jul 2013 12:54:17
I'm sending a powerful ESP message to Brendan Rodgers. 'Play suso in the CAM role and buy Gary medel'. If he looks a little vacant on the training ground this week you'll know it's working

Well, aren't you special?

Clearly not as special as you Mr no-name. It's a beautiful summers day, lighten up you miserable troll.

Professor X, you are not

06 Jul 2013 12:51:00
Eds, So the point with Mkhitaryan is, we don't have the money for him? It depends on Suarez moving? According to sources, Liverpool isn't sure anymore if they will "sell big" to "buy big". In that case, there is hope that Suarez will stay? {Ed002's Note - I have no idea where you get all of this but no one has suggested that the money was not there for Mkhitaryan. If a club decides a player is over-priced why would they pay the fee being ask for. Suarez wants out and the club want him gone. The issue surrounds the money Suarez wishes to suck out of the club as part of a transfer - nothing else. If no one makes an acceptable offer then he will stay.}

06 Jul 2013 12:41:55
Can any of the ed's or follow posters confirm if this Suarez to Chelski rumour is true or just BS?

If true and it goes ahead then that's an outrage and people like waro would be proven right regarding our owners lack of ambition.

Oh and for a quoted £34 million just as an extra insult.

Please tell me it's all a load of pants!

Jonny Spandex {Ed002's Note - If Suarez were to move to Chelsea then I would think he should be the target of your abuse for lying to the fans, rather than the owners who have supported the player throughout all of the grief he has brought on himself and the club.}

I hear you Ed but the owners would also deserve some beef for selling to another English club at a measly £34 Mil.

So it is BS then or don't you know?

Just to totally change the topic. I was speaking to this Spanish dude the other day and he reckons Aspas is an extremely good player and will be a hit. He's a Barca fan and seems to know his football. Hopefully this will comfort my fellow supporters a little bit who think he's jarg.


Thanks

Jonny Spandex {Ed002's Note - A Spanish ex-EPL player agrees that Aspas will turn out to be a very good buy.}

06 Jul 2013 11:57:23
Ed can u tell me now that it looks like we have lost out on HM could u tell me of possible other signings in that position that we would or should go for mickey1red {Ed002's Note - I can only say where I know there to be interest.}

06 Jul 2013 11:55:24
Hello eds, quick question! Do you think the HM deal will put doubts into Rodgers mind? His top target last summer was Dempsey we missed out after Ayre got his fingers burnt and now the HM deal sounds exactly the same (Dortmund sound close) its either option A or option B or option C! The club must sell to buy hence the zero net spend so far! Or the owners won't back the manager! Or simply Ayre is the wrong man for the job!? Cheers PDLFC {Ed002's Note - This is the transfer process. It looks like Liverpool have not signed Mkhitaryan - so what? Did Sam Allardyce burst in to tears when Negredo said no to West Ham? Did Martinez smash up the furniture in his office when Honda agreed a move to Milan? Did Guardiola kick the cat when Vidal decided on a move to Juventus rather than Barcelona? Do you think Rodgers is that much of a flake?}

Look how many fans were pissed off with the Dempsey signing, think we dodged a bullet there!

06 Jul 2013 12:03:10
As Chelsea have lost out on cavani do you think they will try for Suarez.?

06 Jul 2013 11:53:22
Ed002, I'm fully with you on my long term concerns about BR's player preferances and how they could end up setting back LFC in the future. i'm fully behind BR and LFC to be better this season (showed better form after Christmas last year) but if he doesn't get Top 4 this year or next and leaves LFC what will the club be left with? Possibly no Suarez, Gerrard retiring, and a lot of players like Pacheco (who was once a prized youngster but flamed out and is now worth nothing on the market). i'm excited about Coutinho and Sturridge but the other purchases have me more worried than not that they will flop.

IMO, if Brendan were to not make it happen at Liverpool and moved on in a couple of years, I think (if they still own the club), FSG will still be looking towards a younger, hungry, replacement, based in a modern philosophy, in terms of style of play. I certainly don't think will see anything like another Roy Hodgeson type, with a traditional, antiquated 4-4-2 style, it will more likely be a style that is not a million miles from what Brendan is trying to implement and types of players he is trying to bring in at the moment. Therefore, is it not possible regardless of what happens to Brendan, that we will still be in a stronger position in terms of personell and general phylisophy than we were a season ago?

My post has nothing to do with his playing style. But if you remember from a few years ago Pacheco was a big young talent and is now worth nothing. i'm worried that in two years Aspas will be 27 and found out at the highest levels (like Adam was after dominating at a smaller club) and not worth much, and Alberto and others might be just like Pacheco.

Of course i'm hoping they all work out but that is the risk any clubs takes when they only buy younger/inexperienced players.

06 Jul 2013 11:51:42
Hi Ed002, I have read the posts. Just wanted your opinion of any other players in the Mkhitaryan mold that are available and could be attained if Liverpool were to show an interest. I am not talking about the likes of Modric and Eriksen. More realistic buys?

Sunny {Ed002's Note - I would hope that BR will not spend for the sake of it. My suggestion that Suso would be someone who has earned a chance resulted in a bunch of abuse - so there is clearly a section of the fans that want the likes of him and the other academy/reserve players out and money spent on players instead. If there is interest I know of, I will say.}

I wouldn't mind signing a older experience player for in the position and then bring young guns true weather we can find someone is a different story

Suso has performed well so far at the u20's world cup. At 19, I'd like to see him push on and be given a regular opportunity. RW seems to be a position we're short in so perhaps that's an option? If not, I wouldn't be surprised to see Muniain be of interest as a Mkhitaryan alternative

Have to say ed 2 dead right he deserves a chance and is the type of player I think bench warming will never suit.he will develop best when playing frequent he must be near 20 now.the first team are used to playing the possession game now he should slot in to better effect this season.given the chance low wage hunger.he had potential 3 years ago now he has ability

True, but if you have watched him at youth/res level you'll know he isn't a winger. He is best in the centre. As a traditional CM or as an attacking mid (no.10). His strengths lie in his vision and ability to make space and pull off some exceptional passes. He can rotate out to the wing as part of a fluid attacking line up but he would be wasted out there full time

06 Jul 2013 11:34:31
Hello Eds, Coutinho was supposedly watched from the age of 15 by BR. Do you know of any other long term targets he could have? {Ed002's Note - He would have been at Chelsea then and the club had others covering Brazil and certainly not a coach of the reserves - and the club did not show interest in him that I recall. Sounds like someone has been teasing you.}

06 Jul 2013 11:23:50
Eds, since we missed out on mikky do you still expect a 'marquee' signing? Personally I don't!

06 Jul 2013 11:06:19
We have a good squad for next season,,
Jus need two quality players a defender and attackin player but I think suarez is really going to make the that difficult
He needs to be sold but I reckon no team is going to pay the 40 mil for him or even bid for him


Basy

06 Jul 2013 10:52:38
For all those complaining about not getting Mkhitaryan, I bet the majority haven't seen the guy play. I watched Chelsea play them last season and he certainly didn't stand out for me. Its just a case of everybody watching snippits on you tube and claiming he is the best player in Europe.
At the end of the day he is a Midfielder and 23 million is a lot to pay for any midfielder let alone someone who wants to go to the highest bidder.

As Rodgers has said we want young hungry players who want to play for the club, and not come here just for the money. His conduct over the transfer saga has been worrying, not turning up for training etc, we have had Torres and Mascherano and now Suarez who showed to same contempt for the club and we certainly don't want another.

Lets spend the money wisely and cover the positions that need filling, like CB, and center forward once Suarez goes and if there is money left we can spend on an attacking midfielder, however in my opinion that position isn't a priority at the moment, we have a number of players who can play there.

Evered

06 Jul 2013 10:36:21
Hi eds

I know you don't want to speculate on alternative targets (for obvious reasons) but I would be intrigued to know who in your esteemed opinion you would like to see come in? {Ed052's Note - I don't know of any new targets yet, and don't really have an opinion on the matter/who I want to come in yet}

06 Jul 2013 10:33:32
Is it me or does Joe Allen look a bit 'stronger'?

Proper hard nut now hey!

06 Jul 2013 10:29:16
For what it's worth, this Mkitharyan transfer has shown us that, just like Shaktar, we should play hardball with any potential suitors for Suarez.

Though they didn't get what they wished for.

06 Jul 2013 10:11:10
Was wondering ed with the mickey news wether the club will identify another attacking midfielder or will they try to develop Suso/Teixera in that role rather than spend money, similar to the Atsu situation the Echo have reported - dropping interest allowing Sterling and Ibe game time. One good sing of the Mickey saga is the owners are willing to spend big bucks, thanks ed. {Ed052's Note - I don't what the lcub will do, but suspect we may have to wait for the Suarez situation to be resolved}

05 Jul 2013 13:04:49
Hi Ed,

I'd like to know any of your opinions regarding Henrikh Mkhitaryan's ability. From what I've seen he's technical and anticipates balls very well but to be honest he gives the ball away a lot and spends a lot of time on the floor getting shoved over In a league tthat's not really considered to be very physical. I think Shakter are taking advantage of LFC with the asking price and using the media to push up the price too.

What qualities do you think he has and how much would you pay for him if you were LFC manager?

Cheers, {Ed052's Note - Ed030 has profiled Mickey}

03 Jul 2013 22:29:24
Question for ed52,

Can you see rodgers bringing in mkhitaryan and eriksen? It might looked like a crammed midfield, but if we play eriksen out wide and mkhitaryan behind sturridge, and coutinho on the left, it is an attacking format being used by chelsea, with the 3 support forwards being interchanging midfielders. This is why 4231 is my prefferred formation.

If eriksen takes downings place and rotates with aspas, surely this is a good way to get quality into the side?

Anonymous woolback {Ed052's Note - This question is a bit redundant now, sorry. I don't really expect Eriksen to come in, however}

06 Jul 2013 09:54:40
Is Carlos vela worth a shout. 14 goals and 9
assists.

06 Jul 2013 09:42:32
Liverpool, Norwich and a certain Europa League bound club are planning to submit their offers for Toby Aldo to Ajax, the Telesport jorno

06 Jul 2013 09:33:32
Just a quick question for the eds, assuming Suarez stays how many more signings could we realistically expect and what positions, cheers guys and keep up the good work, Lee

06 Jul 2013 09:13:54
I am home in my girlfriends Austrian village Brixen i'm Thale for the wkend which is also where BVB are holding their preseason training. Woke up this morning to hear them playing You Will Never Walk Alone over the PA system at the football field. For all you conspiracy theorists, was this a big middle finger to Liverpool about the imminent signing of Mkhitaryan? Or a sign to the journalists who are asking if BVB will trump Liverpool to Mkhitaryan's signature 174times a day.

Mr gorsky

Dortmunt has that entrance song as well as other teams like celtic.

Chris {Ed002's Note - Many German clubs use it.}

Way to shoot down the conspiracy.
Guess I will forge this one and focus back on the skies!

06 Jul 2013 09:06:31
Still not discounting the Mkhitaryan deal as nothing is set in stone yet. I'd like our buys to be this summer.

A. Moreno. Seville.
T. Alderweireld. Ajax.
C. Eriksen. Ajax.
E. Banega. Valencia.
L. Muriel. Udinese.
H. Mkhitaryan. Shaktar (possibly?).

Outs.
B. Jones.
S. Coates.
M. Skrtle.
S. Downing.
J. Spearing.
O. Assiaidi.
J. Shelvey.
D. Pacheco.
A. Carroll.
L. Suarez.

You want them six players on top of Aspas, Alberto, Mignolet and Toure? Far too many changes.

RedKopite

His outs look about right to me. 10 players, so if that happened (which I would like) I think we need another 2 or 3 in's. Don't agree with all the in's on his list though.

06 Jul 2013 08:47:11
Can anyone answer tis? Who was the first player to score at the kop end when it became all seatdr

Robbie Fowler?

06 Jul 2013 08:40:14
Great - Suarez off to Chelsea?
Alonso going to Chelsea?
FSG not authorising top players.
BR out of his depth.
We are drifting down the League.
Won't win anything next season.
THIS IS BEING LIVERPOOL

Get off the site!

YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT LIVERPOOL

Great! Another moronic fair weather 'fan'! I wish you and your ilk would be off somewhere this summer!
Buy players sell players, win lose or draw, win the league get relegated. we SUPPORT Liverpool fc!
THIS IS BEING LIVERPOOL!
In Buck we trust!

No - this is being pathetic.

Suarez to Chelsea now? Can you muppets not realise that if he is to move it won't be to another British team.

I wouldn't be so surprised to see him move to a team in England. Perhaps the 'Muppets' are those who believe he is leaving because of the press and that he really loves LFC?

Nothing surprises me with Suarez.

06 Jul 2013 08:31:49
. And another expensive class player bites the dust! Probably a smoke screen as yonks probably had a cardiac at the thought of spending that amount on one player. Back to the free, loan and 6-7 million type player that will not make top 4 shudder with fright. Understand business needs, cash flow blah blah but we need proven quality class players right now to get us up near the top. Hoping for the best this season just hope were not looking for the season to finish after ten games!
VVLFC

Are you for real? FSG are the people who sanctioned £22.5 m for Suarez 35 for Carroll, 20 for Downing and 16 for Henderson. When and if a player becomes available that we want, they will sanction the purchase, just this time wasn't meant to be
Mike G

06 Jul 2013 08:30:20
Liverpool have signed 14 year old West Brom wonderkid Yan Dhanda.

KiwiRed

Sounds like a Jedi padowan! ;)

06 Jul 2013 08:19:18
Brendan recently said he wanted to add more attacking players to the team. Now that we've missed out on Mkhitayran (spelling) who are we targeting in that area of midfield?

Iker Muniain

06 Jul 2013 08:11:00
Are we at risk now regarding Suarez? If HM had assigned for us, we had the replacement already bought and not like to be done over o. ££, no Suarez will go and it will be well know what we get for him and therefore we will find whose er we opt for as a replacement, their value skyrockets?

06 Jul 2013 07:47:53
Now Mkitarian has apparently signed for Dortmund
1. Does this mean we have a 'free run' at Ericksen?
2. There is a different 'Plan B'
3 There is no 'Plan B'

Thanks
Killingholme_Clay

Lets see we lost mickey

So other teams will now get out of our way and give us a free run at Eriken

Doesn't seem likely if other teams are interested in him?

"So other teams will now get out of our way"
I mean a 'free run' from our point of view .i.e. turning our full attention to the signing of an alternative target.

If you want to give a caustic response by taking a couple of words in a sentence out of context, be my guest.
Makes you look like a self important plank.

06 Jul 2013 07:04:05
BBC saying we have missed out on Micktaryan so I think our new signings to me look like Fulham signings - top 4 seems a million miles away - bottom 4 more likely!

A man after me own heart - seen things as they are!

Please search my name and read a post I made earlier. Perfect for you too. Not a clue I tell you. Not a single clue.

Davey Sulls

It's great that people like ye can comment on players ye haven't watched for possibly 3 games on a consistent basis. As Davey said, not a single clue.

06 Jul 2013 06:22:41
Well thank god the Mickey circus is done and now The Saurez Show will begin will he stay or go. I trust LFC will have other recruitments on their list. So far good

06 Jul 2013 04:09:14
Expect imminent rumours of our next attacking player now HM is dead. We know the club want to do business quick. Who could it be, eriksen? Can play LF as we'll as CAM him and coutinho could both play in the same team no prob! Rakitic? Good player but in my eyes signing him after loosing out on HM is a kick in the face. there's lots out there, excited to see who it will be. It's obvious we have 15/20m to spend on 1 player, hopefully they don't an don't sign 2 8m players lol

Thoughts people?

06 Jul 2013 09:18:30
rakitic would be a good signing imo reminds me of alonso with more of a goal threat.Tommy Irish Red

06 Jul 2013 03:30:44
Hugely disappointed with the news Mickey won't be coming as goal scoring midfielders are a rarity. However no player is irreplaceable. the AM is a position we do need a huge improvement on. Shelvey failed there. Hendo is good, great engine etc but I don't see that being his best position. I would love to see both Jovetic and Erikkson come in. Both fit the profile (young, hugely talented, sell on value etc). Jovetic was someone we looked at in Rafa's time and I am a huge fan. With Juve getting Tevez and Llorente and Arsenal getting Higuain, it a seems he would be available. Both are fleixible and can play a number of players.

Rumours coming from the club are that we have set our sights on Ivan Rakitic who would be a cheaper alternative and with Sevilla having sold a couple of players, Rakitic feels the club haven't shown the ambition to improve on Last year. His agent has given indications to us that he would be willing to move to us.

I do like the players we have bought so far, but do feel that there is a lot more to happen in this transfer window.

We have no chance of Jovetic. Eriksen a very small chance.

06 Jul 2013 03:10:34
So we will see whether Mkhitaryan to BVB is really true.

Remember one thing, it could be that a deal has been agreed by the two clubs but for the deal to be completed the player needs to sign the contract with the new club. If Mkhitaryan does not want to join Dortmund then the deal they have agreed with Shakhtar Donetsk means bugger all.

There must be a reason why Mkhitaryan went AWOL. Maybe he told Shakhtar Donetsk that he wants to join LFC but are in return refusing to agree a deal with LFC. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Even James Pearce has stated that Mkhitaryan's agent has not allowed LFC to talk to the player.

And Why have Shakhtar or Dortmund not confirmed anything yet? I do not think we have heard the last about this saga.

Logan {Ed002's Note - Liverpool cannot talk to the player without the permission of his club. That permission would not be given unless Liverpool has made an acceptable offer. Liverpool has not made an acceptable offer.}

Eds BBC report fee of 21.5 m pounds
Accepted from BVB
What was our bid? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

06 Jul 2013 02:22:43
So Mkhitaryan's made it clear he wants to go to Dortmund. Who. realisticly. else, are we going to target for a prime attacking midfield option? Ed's do you know of anyone else of a similar profile that we have our eye on?

I persoanlly like the look of Rakitic.

06 Jul 2013 02:01:15
Eds, if we miss out on Mkhitaryan, is there a chance of any other marquee signing? {Ed002's Note - I don't know what you see to be a "marquee" signing but clearly many of the fans had not heard of Mkhitaryan until a couple of weeks ago.}

06 Jul 2013 01:17:53
Anyone crying over Mickey needs to ask themselves this:

Q: What happens after Dortmund players have a good season?

A: They end up at Bayern.

So, if this move goes through, it is pit stop for Mickey, which means that he was never committed to us anyway. We are much better off finding a player who wants to be with LFC for the long term, including winning back a CL spot. Plenty of fish in the sea, and who knows, we may end up with a much better player.

Personally, would love to see CE arrive, as I think he's got more upside long term. Wait and watch I guess.

Aussie LFC

The creativity of Erikson would add even another dimension to Coutinho and Suarez (if he stays). Could be quite a show.

While I'm not sure if there's even the slightest chance he'd come back, I'd love to see BR take a run at Alonso since the Mickey thing has fallen through. He may be older, but he also may be what's required to push Liverpool up the table enough to be able to attract the younger stud players.

Lol.personally I think if QPR had of been interested in micky they would have got him before lfc, such is the lure of Liverpool, err lack of it I should have said

Don't understand the constant Alonso thing. A midfield 3 of Alonso, Lucas & Gerrard wouldn't work.

I would play Coutinho as AM (backed up by Suso/Texeira) and looked for pacy, skilfull RF & LF players to play either side of Sturridge. Lamela, Mertens type players.

06 Jul 2013 00:53:23
It looks like we've lost out on MK but, until anything is official, there is still a slight chance.

I haven't posted for a while but I read the posts every day. Yes, there are some who over react to every situation and there seem to be 2 camps. Those who think FSG can do no wrong and those who still don't trust them.

Some think that no decent player would touch us because we don't have Champions League. I don't think that is necessarily true as Liverpool are still a big draw and some players are actually prepared to put the effort in to get a club there rather than just walking into a team already in there.

As for FSG, I understand there is no bottomless pit but I believe that they still don't get Liverpool. I don't think they realise how much money they could make if Liverpool were successful - and they are in it to make money, I don't care what anyone says! I don't think they realise that sometimes you have to think beyond balancing the books to achieve that success.

Tom Werner said that Liverpool could compete for any player if they thought he would improve the squad. Rodgers obviously believes MK would improve the squad, so they should back him - if its not too late already. So far, transfers in and out almost balance, so there should be money speculated to accumulate.

It is early in the transfer window yet, so let's see what happens. However, I think the reason for the frustration of many people is that they worry about Liverpool never getting back among the elite. There are at least 6 strong teams in England to compete against and, if we can't make 4th place they fear that we will lose the better players. Whereas, bringing someone like Mickey in would probably have the double effect of making players want to stay, as well as giving us the opportunity to challenge not just for 4th pace but for the title itself. So, they see it as a choice between 2 options - a chance to bridge the gap or the possibility of falling into obscurity altogether.

If Liverpool did sign MK, doubtful as it might seem at the moment, what a positive message that would send out. It would state that we are here to compete with the best, not to sell our best players to them for a profit.

When Bill Shankly asked the board about signing Yeats and St. John there was resistance and he almost had to threaten to resign before they agreed to back him. The rest is history. Usually Managers know best, especially so where Americans are concerned. I hope Rodgers gets the necessary backing in this transfer window. With all the top teams changing Manager, there is an opportunity like never before.

Over to you FSG, or maybe you'll just wait until the new ground is built so the profit margin looks good.

redmersey

Ive been watching Liverpool since 1945 and you have hit it spot on.(godin)

Nice post. like it

Liverpool would be worth much more if they are self sufficient than 200m in debt for a few years of success.

I would rather buy a club that has no debt and can run itself than one with massive debts and needing me to add 50-100m every year like FSG are doing.

They won't make a profit on Liverpool at the moment, we are making massive annual losses, FSG have put over 150m into transfers and this debt and we have not increased by more than 150m to another purchaser.

Just have faith that business people will do what is right long term. Arsenal are worth nearly triple what they were 10 years ago, if not more due to profitability, stadium and the team being self sufficient. {Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not £200M in debt.}

It appears that we were prepared to meet asking price but never got to speak with HM for whatever reason, be that ownership issues or player choice, a shame but time to move on to other targets. As money seemingly not an issue don't think fsg can b blamed for not backing BR on this occasion

I may be wrong but I gather FSG did back BR with Mickey and would have paid. Mickey wanted Dortmund over us so we never got to even talk to him. Sorry to say this but Dortmund were CL finalists & have a great rep for bringing players through so you can see why.

To the poster above: We didn't submit any offer to be able to talk to the player, so no FSG didn't back BR on this one.

I never said Liverpool were in 200m of debt but speculated that maintaining 50m annual losses would result in increased debt over time, not right now. {Ed002's Note - It was unclear - I didn't understand much of your post.}

06 Jul 2013 00:27:48
I can well understand Disney's interest in Liverpool,
Liverpool are in a pretty remarkable situation.
We have been part of "the big four" that have dominated English football for long time - long enough for "the big four" to be part of common understanding.
When Liverpool started to slip, or Man City started their rise - depending on how you look at it - it became know as "the big five".
The Tottenham started to challenge and we got "the big six".
But the reality is that Liverpool are on the cusp of falling out of "the big . " and while its painful to have to admit, it is not going to be easy getting back in.
No matter how much we bitch and moan and find scapegoats, the solution ain't going to be simple.
Significant loss of revenue from the CL (and I would assume the associated power for negotiating sponsorship) and the reduced attraction for players wanting CL football, puts us on the second tier of propsective clubs for players to join.
That combined with the FFP, which doesn't allow us to just spend silly money to get who we want (so even if FSG wanted to throw money at players, they can't), means that we are going to have to be canny.

We are the only one of "the big four" that are in this situation, so it makes the whole "what are Liverpool going to do" an incredibly exciting (for Liverpool fans) and interesting (for football fans - even Manchester United fans) adventure to follow.

Liverpool have put their team together (on and off the field - well are putting their team together on the field) and there is nout we can do about it.
I can well understand the frustrations and have no problem with people criticising the club and suggesting where we are going wrong (and I think there are a few areas where we are going wrong) but I think that consideration should be given to the real life situation of the club.
I like what BR & FSG are trying to put together and if it works, they will be legends.
If it doesn't, well.

But they are the ones that will decide, and I for one am looking forward enormously to next season!

Good post

+1 Top Post mate

Great post. couldn't agree more.

Andy K

05 Jul 2013 23:50:14
Hi Eds,
Just a couple of questions, thought you might be able to help?
1) a lot of our outgoings, and prospective outgoings seem to be the English lads, with plenty of foreign talend coming in. So would I be right in thinking that with a lot of the youth players coming through we will still be well above the 70% minimum homegrown players? (And as an aside as Enrique is still eligible to play for England which category would he fall into?)
2) doesn't MK technically play the same position as Alberto? The reason I ask is that people seem to be moaning about us missing out on our "No1 target" yet Ayre clearly stated on LFC site that young Luis was our primary target for that position and we got him?

Cheers and keep up the good work {Ed001's Note - there is no 70% minimum. Can do, but doesn't have to.}

My bad Ed01, misread the Huw Jenkins statement after they signed Jonjon Jo about homegrown talent. Still wondering though if Enrique counts as "british" or "foreign" at the moment? Obviously he has said he only wants to play for Spain but is still eligible for England?