Liverpool Banter Archive August 06 2013

06 Aug 2013 22:41:51
Heard rumours Anzhi are selling a lot of players Willian is a quality player any interest from English clubs?

He signed something like a month ago.

06 Aug 2013 22:38:25
is it a coincidence that, Rooney, Bale, Suarez are all injured

06 Aug 2013 21:45:33
Bad news about the injuries but looking at the bright side :

Oldham are out the League Cup so there's one less thing to worry about.

United fail to win another pre-season game.

06 Aug 2013 21:38:54
Could someone please clarify this for me? if you pay the £2.99 a month for LFC TV does it mean you can watch Liverpool's games live or just highlights? I already have LFC TV on my XL tv package but that does not enable live games, thanks or any help in advance.

You don't get them live mate the rights stay with sky/exon Tec you get highlights and interviews with players stuff like that as far as I know

Just the highlights about an hour after the game finishes. It's only 2.99 to begin with then goes up to 5 quid

Senior team you get highlights, I think 24 hours after the game.
Some youth live games.

Roy

Just highlights of league and cup but they show the friendlies live

You can only get live pre season games reserves etc. Prem you cannot watch live but the whole game after 10pm I believe

You can watch them live on ssn sports etc just not your club tv channel

You get live access to the pre-season games .

Premier Leaue games have full replays shown on the website - on demand, a day or 2 after the game has been played .

There are also highlights available .

Pre season games you can watch live. Don't know about the EPL games or any others.

You can watch full games from 12am the morning after the day the game has taken place.

interviews etc

pre season games

thats about it

06 Aug 2013 21:31:54
Listen 'y' all, what's your problem with these players saying they have an injury to get-out of work?

In the past, I have often telephoned into work after a sesh, moaning that I have the shabites or a bad back.

What's the problem?

Jesus, you would think the club and player have issues!

Some of you are a little too suspicious.

;-}

06 Aug 2013 21:01:15
What is going on with us buying a CD are we still in the hunt for Alderweireld as to me he's available on the cheap but is it true that Everton look like beating us to him or are we just not interested in him?.

If we do buy a CD, I hope its Eiffel 65's first album. Great listen. If its a Now album, FSG out.

What kind of cd is this?

06 Aug 2013 20:51:18
I heard Suarez to be Heading to Real Madrid, but we want 50 mil, so why not swap Benzema and 25 Mil for Suarez. ANyone else would like this? I think it would be a good bit of business.

That`s not going to happen. Benzema ain`t coming.

06 Aug 2013 22:46:30
Benzema won't want to cum to Liverpool. He may have a lot of Potential suitors who can offer Champions League football incase he Leaves Madrid. We can ask anyone but not every Player want to come us. Be Realistic

Benzema most probably doesn't want to come to Liverpool and no doubt Madrid value him above the £25m you stipulate if they've just sold Higuain for £34m.

Haha, that would be excelent business! But very very unlikely

06 Aug 2013 20:24:42
IMO we are simply getting rid of players on big wages who are not good enough and i'd call it a very good window if the following happens Agger (Barca) Saurez (Madrid) Skertel (Zenit) Johnson (City) Funny how the only players left at Melwood today are the only players linked with moves away! I smell another wage cutting summer! FSG must sign a big name or I can see a backlash Muriel, Kolopenka or Costa it now looks like the Costa deal isn't far away! Our net spend will be something to look at when the dust has settled! What do you think Eds? Cheers PDLFC

Agger to barca. are ya mad in the head! we need to keep him are were fooked!

Exactly but the people and doom-mongers just can`t keep up.

Agger is the best defender we have, and carra admits he is the best CB partner he's ever had.

06 Aug 2013 19:56:32
Just see Suarez in local chippy. I knew it was him he just ordered deep fried Ivanovic arm and chips with a pickled onion.
I asked if he was staying to which he replied yes I love the club and honoured to wear the shirt.
As true as I'm sitting here riding me bike.

Don't know about anything else but I thought this was a real room silencer

06 Aug 2013 17:28:16
Eds or fellow reds, does anybody know if we are looking to loan out Samed Yesil, Villyan Bijev, Jakub Sokolik and Nacho? These youngsters will surely prosper if they are given a chance. Also, how are they rated by the club?

06 Aug 2013 18:59:21
I'm not sure if I'm mistaken or not but didn't Suarez come on at the same time a carragher on Saturday? If so then surely the reception was for carra

If that's true then Rodgers I will be extremely impressed. Very intelligent thing to do to drown out any negativity. throw him on with Carragher; genius.

It was for Suarez too, end of the day mate he is still our payer at the minute and in my opinion that should still get our support.

I still want him to leave but only at the right deal for Liverpool. My only concern is do we have the bottle to keep him if we only get offered £40m? I don't think so, I think we will cave and all interested parties know it!

I didn't get to see it but if he did have imagine so maybe the flags and suarez indicated it was towards him when it was towards both smart move by Rogers to make him feel loved

I agree with five I think we will bottle it and let him go for around 40mil maybe a tiny bit more if no other offers come in for him

06 Aug 2013 18:56:07
Eds, I know there's much talk about them but do you think that the cannisters of foggy gas used by soldiers to move forward undetected are just a smokescreen?

06 Aug 2013 17:44:19
Not a rumour. But I would like how come there are player+cash offers these days? don't the clubs prefer it?

06 Aug 2013 15:58:47
hey eds

if downing and assaidi are sold do you expect us to bring in another wide player or do you think aspas will be it

so far suso, possibly spearing shelvey suarez downing assaidi skrtel and reina out

thats five attacking options in downing assaidi suso suarez and shelvey that could be gone

and so far just aspas and alberto in {Ed001's Note - well we just tried to get one, so I would expect us to continue trying.}

Who did we try sign?

06 Aug 2013 18:20:40
Was down from Scotland with son and nephew for Stevie G's big day on Sat.

The reception Suarez got was incredible and not what u expected .

My son ( 11yrs old ) was so disappointed in Suarez's lack of acknowledgement to the fans he has now taken his poster down from his bedroom wall.

A Coutinho one now sits next to his Stevie G one.

Point being I'm sure this Will be common up and down the country and we can and Will move on better and stronger with a TEAM all pulling together in right direction .

Will be stunned if we can't attract an adequate striker to partner the boys already there.

We have proven we play more as a team and are effective Without Suarez so please stop panicking over him going.

Can't wait for season to start with a full squad of proud, happy, committed players and feel top 4 is definetly on .

Come on u Reds from North of the border


YNWA

By the way, what a car Skirtel has

ha ha

Have to agree - for a crowd that have given him such support since he arrived it unfortunately shows the guy's lack of class to not even acknowledge them even when that same crowd all know he wants to leave.

At this stage I really want him to go. If Arsenal do get him I predict him to be gone within a couple of seasons when another big team comes in.

I can only imagine what damage he is doing to morale within the dressing room so hope he is gone by the weekend.

Don't think we will miss him (for his footballing ability!) as much as some people think.

Yeah nice Bentley in black

Goldy

Agree m8, looking good this year squad wise, with or with out no 7
Ynwa

Suarez doesn't deserve the fans he has. I don't think I could have cheered him last saturday!?
I agree that the sooner he's gone the faster we can move on and improve.
It won't be long till he does something stupid elsewhere anyhow!

As for Skrtel, I'm glad he has a great car cause he'll need it when we get rid! ;-)

And yes, I must change my username!

06 Aug 2013 17:48:21
I think Costa is not a good replacement for Suarez unless we get in one more player. What say guys?

06 Aug 2013 20:31:22
I think most would agree that there's no one player we could reasonably expect to buy that would replace Suarez.

Jovetic would've been the closest to straight replacement, imo, but I don't think a move for him would've ever been realistic for us this summer, even City hadn't got him.

We need goals from all over the field and not from one guy.

06 Aug 2013 17:03:16
Does anyone believe that if Manchester United had attempted to sign the Benfica left back, they would have been refused a work permit?

Nope. That's the essential unfairness of the system as it's setup, but it has worked in our favor in the past as well.

Wow, so it's not only the FA that are in cahoots with Utd, but the UK Home Office as well?

Who said anything about 'cahoots'? It's the way the system is designed. Top level clubs will always have an easier time getting work permits than say those in League 1.

That said, in general United have gotten some dodgy work permits, yes. There was a thread on this the other day, as I recall.

06 Aug 2013 16:51:53
So Suarez is injured? Is this the case eds or is it the same type of injury Skertal, Rooney etc have, funny how all players who may leave their clubs are injured. I hope it is a brief injury as I don't want Suarez to leave but something tells me he is not involved due to a maybe transfer! Am I thinking to much into this?

06 Aug 2013 16:48:44
Just seen the Beeb's article about Suarez being 'injured' it just seems too much of a coincidence to me, or am I reading to much into this? Hopefully I am not and this whole sage can be be put to bed and we can all move on, as he clearly isn't staying. I'm just glad I can say I have witnessed his footballing brilliance and will laugh next summer when he's providing the same nonsense for another team after they have not met his ambition!

06 Aug 2013 16:34:54
Suarez injured for the first time

06 Aug 2013 16:32:15
HI Eds and Reds, Suarez not travelling to Norway. they say due to a knock in training yesterday? make of it what you like!

06 Aug 2013 16:29:28
a web site says Luis Suarez not playing tomorrow, ankle injury. Do you the testimonial was his last game for Liverpool FC?

Hopefully!

06 Aug 2013 16:25:41
Suarez not playing against valerenga tomorrow because he is injured in training, is this a sign of Liverpool had enough of him? Or suarez pretend anymore after missing Gerrard testimonial dinner the other day, perhaps he's got the same injury as bale and rooney have had for few weeks now.
Let's hope we get it sorted a.s.a.p first game of the season is closing in on us we need to be ready.

06 Aug 2013 15:28:11
Are we still looking for a creative attacking midfielder as I think that we are lacking there other than coutinho. With Suarez likely going we have very little creativity which worries me. We seem to be chasing a left back which I think is unnecessary as johnson can cover there effectively and we have Kelly back which I think will make a huge difference. Just my thoughts and would appreciate those of the eds

06 Aug 2013 19:26:22
Gerrard can be creative enough, surely?
Yeah, it's a different kind of creativity but still.

06 Aug 2013 16:13:45
Flanno in the squad and no McLaughlin? That kid must be really upset after a brilliant last 2 seasons the first he gets on the first team tour & then he has an even better one & is left out! I don't care he's played for the 21s today (how did they get on btw) should be way infront of flanno in the pecking order! Fed up of how the local lads get preferential treatment

Swampmonster, You do realise the lad has just come back from a serious injury?

Don't worry, he will definitely get a few chances to impress this season

Yes I do realise which is yet another reason he shouldn't be there. Not good enough move him on stop him getting in the way of one of our brightest young stars

06 Aug 2013 16:10:51
are we interested in luis muriel? which one would you prefer muriel or costa?

The one that signs.

06 Aug 2013 15:09:52
I might have a theory with this Suarez saga.

Okay so aresnal seem to be the only ones serious about signing Luis, for a low fee I may add.

What i'm thinking is, is that aresnal are desperate for a goal scoring forward to compete for the top 4 and the reason no one else is trying to bite our arms for him is his attitude and behaviour. No real big club wants that. they'll think, "hes done it twice before what's to stop him doing it to us" he's like a child, gets bored easily and wants new toys constantly.

as I've said before, a lot of people have he's embarresing and making a democracy of the club.

aresnal only want him cause there desprate. I personaly have never liked him lol. but will take his goals any day.

Hes holding the club back, we perform better without him, were looking stronger now than we have been for years and that's without him and were still getting better every pre season match, looking good! then luis comes on the "plan" demolishes and its all him running face first into other players opening us up.

Sorry to be a downer on this but that's the truth, we should take what we can get now and run and let aresnal deal with it, he will rip there heart out too, mess up there style and make them the laughing stock.

A democracy of our club?
And you seriously have never liked him?
Wow.
We will hold out for a better price and do anything to sell to a rival for such a cheap price.

Why sell him for 40 million when he's worth 50+? If they can't afford him then they should shop somewhere else it's simple. Enough clubs demand massive fees when we come knocking, I'm glad the club are digging its heels for a change

Firstly it's no good complaining that the fee for Suarez is too low because despite what BR has been saying, comparing him to Bale, he's only worth what someone will pay.
Secondly I don't want him at our club any longer either but we'll be a lesser side without a player of his quality
Thirdly I'm worried that BR isn't going to get a player of his quality in to replace him.
At this rate West Brom will have better strikers than us

Making a democracy of the club
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Viva la Suarez, soon there will be t-shirts with his face on it . explains the beard he has grown recently.

Ur spot on mate without suarez were scary good with him its dull

Hmmm. maybe. But more likely other suitors are waiting to see what comes of Luis' threatened legal action. If successful it'll greatly reduce the amount Liverpool will be able to demand and then the Real Madrid's etc can swoop in and snap him out of Arsene's grasp for a bargain.

I'd prefer we sell Luis to Real Madrid for £40m-£45m, or failing that Man City or Chelsea for £45m-50m. But not to Arsenal for anything

It's obvious that Arsenal's pursuit of Luis is for two reasons.

1) he'll score 30+ goals and help them stay in the top 4
2) He'll NOT be scoring 30+ goals for Liverpool to help us get into the top 4, at their expense.

Man City and Chelsea are going to be lodged in the top 3 for the foreseeable future with the spending power they have. Man U have the commercial and match day income to regularly be in the top 3 too - so those 3 aren't our competition for the next few seasons. It's going to be Arsenal/Spurs and us fighting it out for 4th spot, so we need to improve our team relative to them over the next few transfer windows.

Personally I'd love it if Suarez would give us 1 more season of his best then goto Real Madrid next summer. But now that he's talking legal action I can't see that happening and I just want rid of him for as much as we can get from anyone other than Arsenal or Spurs. Then buy a few decent players who WANT to play for Liverpool.

Even though I say this every year, I really feel positive about the coming season and think we have a good chance of getting into the top 4 with the team we have and the way we're playing.


BigAussieRed

JTaylor781 can I ask you a question would you go into Asda/Tesco's Aldi whereever and ask if they you could have the £1 price marked Fish fingers for 50p I thought not so why should we accept less than what he's worth

I believe Arsenal should be given a taste of their own medicine.

He sold Adebayor for 25mil and Toure for 14mil. How on earth can you think that Suarez is worth 40mil + 1pound if those are his own yardsticks. They are desperate. We should leave them like that. If he gets no one this year, Arsenal fans will take care of him and we might as well have one contender less to deal with next season.

Secondly Suarez.I have no issues with Suarez wanting out but the manner in which he has done this leaves a lot to be desired.Look at Cavani and how he handled his exit. Its one thing performing well for a club and another thing getting suspended for around 20% of the total games you could have played. This is where I have a problem and this where I think he should be told in no uncertain terms that if he drags the club to court then he should forget about getting a move for the next three years.

Man City did it with Tevez.
Man Utd did it with Berbatov and are doing it with Rooney.
We should do the same with Suarez and put our foot down.

I am not sure if LFC can do it but that's how these players should be treated when they treat the club and the fans with disdain.

06 Aug 2013 19:30:08
Thats a rubbish analogy. We have one suarez whereas there are dozens of fish finger packets. Other people want to buy fish fingers whereas currently only arsenal have bid. And transfers are different anyway. there's no price tag, it depends on what other clubs want to pay, especially when you have to sell. Some people seriously have no clue and try to act clever

The fish fingers are only worth what someone is prepared to pay for them. Lol

MIKEY

Mostly agreed with you, LiverBird, but City and United both have the luxury of deeper benches and, probably more importantly, deeper pockets so they can afford to play hardball a little more with a want away player than we can.

Roy

Spot on - Che Guesuarez!

06 Aug 2013 14:52:28
Hello lads and lasses,

I have the misfortune of working in manchester for a company that's made up entirely by united fans. Anyway they've been trying to give me the banter "is it Liverpool a year this year like it was last year" (hilarious and original). We got onto the subject of pre season, they were claiming that they are happy with theirs and they've shown signs of brilliance and they are the mighty united blah blah blah. Anyway I had a read of the pre-season results and we would be joint second with west ham, only Swansea are ahead of us (on goal difference), city have the same points but are behind us on goal difference. Every body else is behind us so where's all the doom and gloom coming from?
The mancs are happy with their season so far so why aren't we?
Yes suarez maybe going but he hasn't scored in pre season so we've proved we can manage.
We have won more of our games than other teams and have played arguably better opposition. a lot of teams have played more games and we are still ahead of them.
Bring on the season and let's have a positive attitude.
Feeling confident

I agree mate, we seemed to have slipped under the radar with nobody mentioning we have won 5 on the bounce without conceding.

That's without Suarez and Sturridge, and giving Ibe a chance. Sterling looks sharp and you can see what the last 12 months in the first team has done for him as his all round game has improved.

Aspas has scored a few and looks a good player in my opinion, and Allen could be like a new signing because he was missing for so much last season.

Also, Henderson has picked up were he left off and has scored a few, his finishing has improved so much.

Must admit though I haven't seen much of Alberto so can't judge and Borini still doesn't convince me.

06 Aug 2013 15:12:47
Amen

The Mancs are in that we are invincible stage. We were there once. I can only hope they rest on their laurels as we did

Because it is pre season and whilst the signals are good it doesn't mean anything. So I wouldn't get too cocky yet.

Couldn`t really be bothered about what other teams do because we need to focus on our club and its progress. In regards to the rags, don`t let them fool you. They say all these things but deep down, they are quivering w/ fear and apprehension. I know preseason isn`t much but if the roles were reversed, they would be saying how moyes is a genius and how BR is incompetent. They know moyes might be in-over his head because they`ve been poor since last year and the trend has continued this preseason and that cannot be dismissed. I`m not saying we`ll win the league because we`re undefeated in preseason but I will say that we`ve been great since jan and that has not changed since and that cannot be dismissed either. Also, no one wants to sign for the manc rags so they could easily go into this season w/ the same poor squad as last season. We`ll see what happens but I think the mancs are terrified of what`s coming.

Spoke to a couple of good united fans, and yes there are good ones to be found, they did say that its chelsea and man city to be top two, I think the same, united 3/4, or even 5th, but think we will be 4/5 .

06 Aug 2013 14:34:00
would like peoples thoughts.
Suarez is brill player but a disgrace as a human being always put himself first and is trying to force his way out of club by any means possible.
Yet the fans love him and sany his name non stop at the weekend.

The you have dowing a player who tries hard keeps his head down and when he was told he could leave club in Jan he stepped up to the plate and made himself a pretty good second half of the season.
Doesnt want to leave and is ridiculed by fans on this site non stop.

I would much rather have a team who wants to b at the club as supposed to a team of mercionaries who only want to milk us and then treat the fans and players and staff like something you walk in on the street.

I welcome your thoughts.

Yes but in regards to quality, suarez has it and downing doesn't perform that great to demand a starting place. I hear what you're saying, but if Downing performed week in week out and was looking like the exciting player that he could undoubtedly be. then he would get the deserved adulation. I don't think he will be at Liverpool much longer, unless he really steps it up. £20 mil the club payed for him!

Downing doesn't have the end product to his game.He often puts himself into great positions only to disappoint with the finish.I think he's on to much money be a squad player.

H`s 29 and has not improved in quality. I`m afraid its time to sell him at that age, he`s not going to get any better.

I think to say suarez is a disgrace as a human is a bit harsh. Yeah footballing wise as a person he's a complete *anker obviously I don't know him but he seems like a family guy outside of football.

Also downing fair enough has kept his head down and has improved. Although if he was as good as his price tag would he seek a champions league team? Liverpool is the best team he will be in and he knows that. So although I agree if he had the ability of suarez would he be as loyal as now?

The issue with Downing, in my mind, is he's a 29 year old winger who's being asked to play as a forward instead. He's giving it a proper go, but this skill set really isn't his strength and he's a bit on the older side to change after 10+ years of doing something else as it just doesn't come naturally to him. Putting in crosses was great (well, it should have been) when we had Carroll around, but a bit less so now.

Sterling has a similar issue I think but he's young enough to perhaps pick up the other side of what's needed for that position within how we play.

06 Aug 2013 14:27:26
Hi Eds
Ive heard several rumours that Liverpool are looking towards luis muriel? I was just wondering whether these rumours have some fabrication and also whether there is any interest in him from any other clubs? {Ed002's Note - At one time or other Atletico Madrid, Juventus and Napoli have shown an interest.}

06 Aug 2013 14:10:24
Hi eds with both athletico and Diego coming and saying he is not for sale and he is happy do you think the deal is off or still on? Please get back to me. {Ed002's Note - We'll see.}

06 Aug 2013 13:19:13
hi Ed's is Konoplyanka likely to leave Dnipro this season? {Ed002's Note - There is a chance that he will.}

Any slight chance or possibility Liverpool could be the destination? {Ed002's Note - I really don't think so.}

06 Aug 2013 13:10:26
Hello Eds, maybe i'm making a mountain out of a mole hill but would there be any reason why Suarez player profile has been remeoved from the official site and replaced by Johnson?

Thanks {Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}

06 Aug 2013 14:50:09
Hes to busy making a scene.

06 Aug 2013 13:04:00
I know there has and is a lot of talk on COSTA but its accepted that SUAREZ will go, however, I would think its wiser to use the money on someone who is younger than COSTA.

Its important, twofold to find a striker who is 22/23 rather than 25/26 as the appreciation value will increase if they do well.

Suarez, needs to be sold but not to a PL team, why weaken yourself and simultaneously strenght an opposing side going for the CL spots.

If Suarez can bring in around £45m then I think the players they should be looking at are:

Cissokho - 5m (max)
Bernard - 20m
Muriel - 15m

Bernard and Muriel are both 22 or under and Cissokho 24/25 years old.

This would enable the whole team to be better balanced and the two attacking players between them would replace the goals lost by Suarez.

Muriel is not likely to get a work permit mate. Diego Costa and Bernard would be excellent. We would have a nice Brazillian core.

Costa is 24

Costa is 24, the same age Suarez was when he came and his price has more than doubled in two and a half seasons.

06 Aug 2013 13:44:19
just wondering peoples thoughts. what would bethe best way for us to win games this season.would you prefer winning 1-0, so after scoring shut up shop or score score score and risk conceding an eqaliser? just got me thinking if this influences brs signings.

I don't care as long as we win!

It all depends on who you are playing and if you are at home or not.We conceded to many goals while we learning how Brendan wanted us to play we had 14 shut outs in the 1st 39 games under Brendan compared to 25 clean sheet in his last 39 games.This tells you that the players are now adapting to the way he likes to play.If we carry this on in to next season we will give ourselves a fantastic chance of improving our league position.

06 Aug 2013 13:25:44
If Suarez leaves as expected, it will be intersting to hear what he has to say which ever club he joins.

He has gone from hero to zero in such a short space of time, his stay at the club will forever be tainted by his behaviour over the course of his stay here, as well as his antics to get away regardless of his goal scoring exploits and general world class skills.

What a shame that someone who has been loved so much by so many treats his fans that way. Sad situation for LFC, a club that all fans have respect for.
We will never be seen in the same light again, well not for a while anyway. And I have no idea what LFC have done to deserve such disrespect from him considering the clubs support of him in his many hours of need.

06 Aug 2013 12:41:08
Question for the EDS or any posters out there that might know the answer. With Reina, Skrtel, Suso and possibly more all out on loan deals, can any or all of them be recalled if we were to get say long term injuries to say Mignolet or Toure, is this the idea behind the loan deals, if so it makes sense, if not it makes no sense at all and we would be better selling. {Ed001's Note - not as far as I am aware. Sales can only happen if someone is willing to buy them.}

06 Aug 2013 11:44:27
Eds seem as if they have got another correct Costa and Atletico both saying they are happy with one another, then again so was Suarez and us, shame if we don't get him think he could have been some player for us.

06 Aug 2013 11:24:46
Just like to throw something out there, and suggest a possible season outcome this year and see if people would be happy with it.

We finish 6th, no more than 5 points outside top 4, win the FA cup and have a decent run in the Capital one cup (Quarter's/ Semi's).

Last season we finished 7th but gained 9 more points than the season before, around a 14% increase which isn't bad. If we do something similar this season, say an increase to around 70 points, that will be another sign of progress which is all you can ask for.

At the moment United, City and Chelsea are well ahead of us. Arsenal and Spurs are not too far and Everton will fall back this year (IMO).

To get top 4 we are relying on atleast 1 other team having a bad season so we can take their place i.e. Arsenal. If they keep performing just slightly better than us then we cannot really blame BR, as long as we keep moving forward. That was always the long term aim, progress.

Thoughts?

Can't help but feel we will improve this year, with the players we have brought in already and likely a couple more I feel we have a much better squad.
Improvement on last year for me will be to continue to play as we did towards the end, the main priority I believe is consistency, if we can improve on this then we should be able to fight for any of the top 4 positions, not saying we will win it but I do feel we are getting a squad good enough to, beat any team if we keep our consistency.
Ibe and sterling going to be very important for us this year I think, people keep saying they're too young but if they are good enough they are old enough.
If we strengthen in the right places Suarez leaving shouldn't have a negative impact but should give others the chance the shine.
I'm just glad that recently when I've watched LFC play it actually looks like our players care if we win, I no longer fear losing a lead like I used to.
Think BR doing a great job, really looking forward to, the stoke game.

Sorry mate, I have say 6th & no trophies would not be good enough for me.

I am not one of the 'we have a god given right to success ' brigade, and I would not set a definite target for success .I believe that to have a 'successful 'season we have to maintain the form we showed second half of the season.Since Sturridge & Coutinho joined we were a different team with hugely improved performances . I believe that if we maintain that kind of form we will be competitive.

The target for this season must be to be competitive, for the cups, for the league, for the champions league, for the Europa places. I will settle for teams to start looking at us as one of the big 4 again not a top 7/8 team as some have said in the media recently .

To be a big four club we will have to prove ourselves ON THE PITCH. It does not matter what we have won, who has played for us, how great our history is .The only way we will challenge for the big prizes will be to better.I see an improvement in the last 8 months we will need to see that improvement continue .If we get top 4 or close to it that will show me that we are at least competitive.

I would however say that as long as we continue moving forwards we should support the BR project. The time has long gone where we could buy our way out of trouble .This team will only grow into greatness if given longer than the 18 months we usually give before we start threatening wives, insulting and agitating.
We will see tough times this season but that's when you find out who the constructive & the destructive truly are.

Kobi

I think BR and LFC have bought the right players in. Just worried about the thin squad. With Suarez leaving (which is a matter of time), our front three are limited to Sturridge, Aspas, Borini, Sterling, Coutinho. (guessing assaidi and downing are going too). don't like borini too much. Sterling is little inexperienced. (Not the final product in my opinion). So if Sturridge or Aspas get injured, we have problems. Also we have to agree that Suarez had an amazing season and almost single handedly got us to where we were in the table. His shoes will be difficult to fill in. Have to keep positive and keep dreaming. {Ed001's Note - Ibe, Dunn, Texeira etc are all options too.}

I personally think we will finish 5th in the league, only a couple of points behind Spurs. Arsenal will finish 6th imo. They will not be getting Suarez, and failure to sign a marquee player will only frustrate the gooners, expect lots of boos at the Emirates next season. Also would be delighted if we win one of the domestic cups. We may not get Champions League football next season, but a 5th place finish and a domestic cup would still be progress.

One of the key components of a top-4 team is a solid spine (world class GK, CBs, midfield pairing, and matchwinning goalscorer(s)) with a decent squad to rotate around that spine. right now we don't know how good our spine is. Mingolet looks like he could be decent, but we don't know yet. Agger is decent, but is Toure top class? we need another quality CB. In midfield we are strong, and if Sturridge stays fit, but that's a big if, we could have the goalscorer. Coutinho is top class but is too inexperienced to include within the spine of the team and I suspect he will be rotated fairly often to preserve his fitness.

Other key components are winning matches that we don't deserve to win, i.e. going to places likeSouthampton, being outplayed, but coming away with three points. this takes character and we don't yet know how good our character is. With SG in the team the character will always be strong, as younger players tend to look to these leaders for inspiration. do we have other leaders that can pull snatch 3 points from the jaws of defeat.
these are I believe the ingredients for sustained success. yes we have great players who on their day could beat anyone, but can we keep this going over a full season, that is the $64K question. for sure, better signings and improvements in our spine will improve our chances

Kobi, what a great example of post that eloquently, offers constructive criticism.
Too many times have trolls and 'negs used the excuse, ' we all have a right to an opinion, ' followed by paragraphs of deluded nonsense.
I totally agree with everything you said.

All I'm looking for is progress. I'd hate us to fall backwards due to trying too hard to skip a level. It's happened before.

Kobi mate, finishing sixth won't be progress . its not about god given rights, its about where we are how much we spent etc . last year we finish 7th, as the original poster mentions Everton will fall back (this view shared by almost everyone including many Everton fans themselves) . so will automatically push us up to 6th, can you really see anyone behind us doing better, Swansea are good, very good, but they have Europa and tackling that with the premier league won't be easy . If Southampton or Newcastle do better than us then you will have to seriously question what is going on at our club.

We have on paper a youngish looking squad, so we should expect improvement during the next few yrs.
If we challenge for top 4 this season then we must be happy that we are progressing.Even if we finish 6th and 2 points away from 4th it will be progress.
All the teams above us, apart from Everton should still be above us come next May. I do think we will challenge them this yr and if we can make a few more signings, that will make us stronger, or harder to beat, then we could even surprise a few of the experts.
I trust Brendan and like the way he plays the game.
I am a season ticket holder who's looking forward to watching us this season.Come on, let's not put pressure on the team already.
The pressure should be on the teams above us, to stay at the top.

Hi Guys, really enjoyed this thread as all posts had good points .

Thanks for the comments Davey .

Roy mate, I was actually making the point that 6th would not be good enough as well .I totally agree with your points but maybe for possibly different reasons.do see the main aim this season is to get back in the game .

I will not say exactly what position because progress means more than that .But it is the main marker .I beleive if we push all the way for top 4 we will be on the right track .

Once again great thread guys & well done to the Eds for giving level headed fans a chance to have their say without all the abuse .

Proud to be a red!

06 Aug 2013 11:21:18
As much as I hate to be the one to nip it in the bud this needs to be seen.WE all say we can cope without suarez etc and if we imvest correctly I think we can.People look at games like the nufc won and say we can cope.In all due respect the games world class players make the difference are the top 6 in the prem.now in all our top 6 fixtures throughout the season that we got something out of suarez was the reason for it.
Man city 2-2(suarez one goal)
Everton 2-2(suarez 2 goals)
chelsea (suarez goal)
Arsenal 2-2(suarez goal)
tottenham 3-2(suarez goal and an assist)
chelsea 2-2 (suarez goal and an assist)

these are just the big games that we got something out of. now i'm not for one minute saying we can't cope without him and I've lost respect for the way he has blown his trumpet but I do think we as fans need to realise how important having him around in the big games was.Especially since we all saw how we played the smaller teams at the end of the season without him and seemed to think we were better off without him

I do realise this is debatable so please let me know your thoughts guys.

LYON KING

Looking at the flip side though, we only won one of them games with him in the side.
Maybe with the Suarez money if we bought 2 or 3 good players we would have an overall better and balanced team and we could have won some of the games instead.

Yes Suarez is a great player, but my OPINION, is that we will be better off with him gone, it will allow for a greater team play, I loved watching him play and I always got the feeling that he could do, something when he had the ball, but I also expected him to lose the ball and possession more than any thing else, yes he works hard chasing back and setting things up but I just think that when he plays we are very one dimensional, when he doesn't play like the last few games of last season the team seemed a lot more open, which caused more problems for other teams leading to more goals for us. When Suarez plays if the other team shut him down then it seems to close our play down.
Don't get me wrong he is a class player but it won't hurt us if he leaves, and for those saying not to sell him to arsenal, they can have him, if they don't buy him they will buy someone else, who won't miss the first 6 games, someone who won't get frustrated and lash out or be a complete DF. So let them have him and take his baggage as well.

You're right, it is debatable.

I know what you mean, but without Suarez, we will have another player on the pitch.

For example, the first three of the games you list were without Sturridge and Coutinho, both players who can do some of what Suarez does.

It has been mooted by the Eds (Ed030 I think) that we may in fact play better without Suarez given he tends to demand the ball a lot more and everything tends to go through him.

I'm not sure about that, but certainly in the last 4 games of the season without Suarez, we won 3 and drew 1, with 10 goals for and 1 against.

Let's see how the first 6 games of the new season pan out (regardless of whether he is a Liverpool player or not) and we will get a more informed view.

Z

You will never know what would have happened in the games he played, had someone else been selected. Impossible to judge.

06 Aug 2013 12:54:36
The way I see it, the bigger impact during those games was our leaky defense, not our strike force. The money from Suarez could tighten up our defense and get us a MF or winger to create more opportunities for our existing strikers. Although I loved Suarez last year it really unsettled me how many of the opportunities he created for himself, where goals should be a team effort. Luis is selfish with the ball and often goes for glory himself, without Luis and strengthening in other positions we could convert half those missed chances - there were a lot of them! Now I pray to god that we spend the money from Luis wisely in other areas. People are right in saying we won't improve without him, but that's only true if we just spend the money on directly replacing him - no one can create goals quite like he can, there are only a handful of players as good as him in the world. You could put Messi at the head of our attack and we wouldn't win the league because goals have to come from the team. Strikers are made amazing by the players around them. Where would Fernando have been without Xabi and Stevie?

Suarez isn't the key to our success, he would be the cherry on top of a solid defense and blinding midfield. Spain won the euros without a striker - what does that say? If our defense had been solid last season and we hadn't conceded in those games we would have had draws and wins. It's not all about Luis.

And I have a feeling about Aspas, come the end of the season I feel the words 'bargain' and 'steal' will come to mind

Only stat that counts-he doesn't want to be here. So he will not be scoring or giving assists he will be sulking and creating negative atmosphere. I just don't understand why some of us are still talking as though it is the clubs decision to sell him! The player we knew while still registered to us has already left, his heart an passion is elsewhere, let him go and we will move on

06 Aug 2013 13:12:06
red what David James said in the Liverpool Echo, I Believe he is correct!

ps. read it and reply with your thoughts on what he has said.

06 Aug 2013 13:17:58
Im not joking when I say this but from day one I've never liked Suarez, yes fair play he is debateably our best player and is obviously a top goal scorer but he always done my head in he looses the ball way to much and due to him being very ball gready he tryes to do it all himself and 90% of the time when he tries to take someone on he looses it or dives due to him not having any pace or what ever.

does anyone agree?

Yes m8. as much as it pains me to be in agreement with DJ, he does have a point.

We played to Suarez strengths last season, everything we did was through him.We actually played more as a team, when he wasn't played.
Before Ian Rush went to Juventus we played to his strengths and everything was played to get Rushie one on one with the keeper.If you stopped Rushie scoring you stopped Liverpool winning.
The next season we changed our style, introducing Barnes, Beardsley and Houghton all attacking players who could chip in with goals.
That next season we played a different way. Aldo picked off the scraps in the box and the rest of the team scored freely.
You can see in preseason that we have had goals from seven different players and none have been Suarez.
While we will miss him .I certainly think we will have more players stepping up to finish the chances off.

06 Aug 2013 11:07:01
With lots of oldies and higher earners leaving or due to leave and youngsters moving into the first team do you think we should move from the premiership to the Under 21s league? Just have a feeling that FSG are trimming and balancing the books before they sell. We used to compete with the top clubs for players but now we seem to be competing with the Swansea, Newcastle, Sunderland etc.

Well, you have no idea Whatcha' talkin' bout then. Arsenal have similar policies and they have consistently hit top four. Getting high earners at old age off the wage bill makes sense. Regardless of any possible sale you think is going to happen.
We can and will pay higher wages for players who deserve it and earn it.

Let's focus on improving out position in the league first. Once we get back into the CL spots we will become a much more attaractive proposition.

Did you ever think we're getting rid of those who aren't actually playing well and keeping those who are? What about Gerrard he was given a new deal - difference is he earned it and those leaving aren't earning their money they're overpaid for what they're producing on the pitch.

Talking trash, my friend! We`re moving high earners who contribute absolutely f-all to the current squad and moving or hungry, determined players thru the academy or transfer market into the team What`s wrong w/ that? We need players w/ desire, hunger and determination regardless of age or wage rate and not hangers-on who hide during games.

06 Aug 2013 10:04:42
Eds, in your opinion do you believe Liverpool are waiting to get players off the wage bill before they acquire any new signings? I believe the money is there to buy players but FSG don't want to be caught out by a huge wages that they then can't shift once new players arrive. Thoughts? {Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool has been putting a lot of effort in to signing.}

06 Aug 2013 10:54:15
Costa is doing the right thing, saying what he's supposed to say. He's considering his current club who has giving his pay so far. Unlike our bratty number 7.
Let's concentrate on the players who would like to play for LFC! Unsung heros like Lucas, Agger, Henderson etc.
A new season always brings a certain excitement and hope for the best. Let's start by beating Stoke!!

HK

06 Aug 2013 09:52:30
Hi Eds so what's the deal with skrtel then is he going and is the Costa deal still on or has that gone out the window with him saying he's happy to stay at Atletico?
Thanks {Ed002's Note - RTP please.}

06 Aug 2013 09:19:31
I did pass on information the other week that we were trying to do something between Downing and Newcastle, but I was told we wanted Ben Arfa and Stewart was the sweetener. Either Newcastle are asking crazy money for Ben Arfa, which considering the deal they got for Carroll off us, you can't blame them for thinking we are pushovers in negotiations, or we have changed our target.The Ed will know more than me about the Players we are tracking for that right side position. Super site Ed.

Or maybe LFC have absolutely zero interest in buying the always injured Ben Arfa.

Ben Arfa is made of glass.

06 Aug 2013 09:13:23
Hi ed's
Mentioned a few times previously that Sunderland and Newcastle were both tracking Downing. This is still the case as is also being reported in the press (certainly the newcastle part anyway).also told a while back about West Ham holding an interest but I have no idea if this remains the case.

Spearing as I keep saying is looking Bolton or Blackburn bound with Blackpool and Wigan seemingly less likely. However should McCarthy move in the near future then don't rule Wigan out.

I've also had Sunderland mentioned as a possible loan destination for Coates but even I don't believe the guy who told me this as it doesn't make sense. He's been right before but I doubt him on this occasion if I'm honest! Then again, no harm in posting it and if he's right ill take it all back!

Have a good day
Cheers

06 Aug 2013 08:38:43
Is Liverpool playing Bologna today, as I go to first row there is a match Liverpool - Bologna, than again on Liverpool site there is no such fixture, only Valerenga tommorow, also on other streaming sites there is Liverpool-bologna

maybee they mixed up something or they think on Liverpool (urugvay club)
Liverpool de Montevideo

?

No m8. Valarenga on Wednesday and Celtic at the weekend. That is all.

06 Aug 2013 09:38:03
Its the reserves/U21' mate.

06 Aug 2013 09:40:49
The U21's are playing Bologna and the first team is playing Valerenga!

Indy Kevin

Ooh tnx, still going to watch it, hehe reserves or first team it is liverpooooooool
:)

Liverpool u21 playing Bologna 7th August.

They have been doing kinda good in preseason won against both Glentoran and Hearts result 1-0 & drawn the other against Real Sociedad B (i think) 0-0.

06 Aug 2013 08:19:54
Hey Ed's, I was reading on here about the potential Skrtel transfer, and I was wondering was it going to be a sale, or the rumoured loan to buy option to Napoli?

Thanks in advance and have a great day all of you. {Ed002's Note - I don't know the details but a loan to buy is one option.}

06 Aug 2013 08:16:04
This may be have been asked many times but if you comment with being hesitant, it will be really helpful for many of us.

1. Skrtel and Coates are most likely leaving. do you the players Liverpool are targeting to replace them with?

2. If suarez leaves, do you know anyone Liverpool has in mind to replace him with. am sure by now we must have done some homework to find his replacement.
3. what are the most likely positions we Liverpool like to strengthen between now and September? {Ed002's Note - You need to read the posts, sorry.}

06 Aug 2013 07:41:48
Hai Ed. Mng.

Stewert Downing leaving for just 5 mill?. Jesus that's 15 mill loss on the player.
Thank you very much KK and Commoli.
Great Job.I believe we should have never recalled KK back for the second time as manager.

I don't think Kenny was a bad decision and consolidated the club after a difficulty time off and on the pitch. Comolli, I could have done his job and then get a nice little pay off - poor advisor in my opinion.

Don't we all he scared fsg so much there afraid to spend any more money haha

I got lambasted for a similar comment I agree 100% more damage then anything. Fair enough we went to a couple of finals but the tactics, media interviews, spending and rash decisions cost us dear. The king will always be the king but people need to stand up and realise the we are a better team since he got sacked.

That's £30m, might as well have sold Torres for £20m. smh

Lies I mean £35m

Commoli was hired as he is a stats man and FSG liked the principle of that as this is what is used in baseball. FSG have learnt the hard way that this does not apply in football. To be fair they have realised their mistake and corrected it. {Ed002's Note - That was not the reason Comolli was hired and I explained from day 1 it would all end in tears.}

To be fair to king Kenny downing was class for villa the season before we bought him

Comolli is a lose canon and a rank incompetent. He loves spending other people`s money on over-priced players which is the reason he`s been fired almost everywhere he`s been (Liverpool, spurs, st ettiene in france, etc).

Downing is a decent player but he's an old fashioned winger. He needs to be in a 442. Liverpool do not.

Toes is spot on - I was very happy with Downing signing initially and now he's had his fair share of chances I'll be delighted to see him gone as he hasn't produced anywhere near his villa form. £15m loss isn't their fault - the player cost close to £20m but he was actually worth around £16m, imo, at the time so we only overpaid circa £4m and Downing just has been poor so he's gone down in value (age & high wages would also reduce his current value).

06 Aug 2013 14:57:00
Len,
We played one whole seaosn 4-4-2 under KK.
He has scored 3 goals in 65 appearence?.
caroll 6 goals in 54 appearence.
Thats outstanding record.

Fair enough Harry. Was that his 1st season? There are always multiple factors.

06 Aug 2013 07:20:47
Right lads and lasses. I see the squad that you see and I see the need for one or two proven players to help us and the younger players kick on but seriously. moaning about about no signings?.
Weve shipped out Reina who most last year said was underperforming, we're shipping out Downing who most said last year needed to be sold, we're shipping out Skrtel who last year everyone said needed to be out the side and we've brought in 4 hungry, younger talented players who can be moulded into the LFC way and already know how to play a certain style of football that we're trying to implement,
We know have Kelly, Sterling, and Wisdom are all a year older and stronger we have the likes of Jordan Ibe already making strides to be a first team player, we still have Stevie G and Agger plus Toure for added experience, we have a fitter than last season Lucas who pre season has looked immense, we have Mignolet who is already Prem proven and looking a bargain at what we paid, we have Couthino who is looking world class and we have Sturridge to come back yet who last season looked the real deal.
So what is the problem with some people? If we don't sign someone with a fifa type title do we always have to moan and complain that we havn't got any 'marquee' signings onboard?, have any of us seriously seen a deal of Papa or Erickson or Aldeirweld or anyone else we're linked with? i'm doubting it, yet we seem to want these players as soon as possible in the hope that they either push us on to the promised land or give us a new excuse to berate the owners for spending on trash,
Give it a rest, for what its worth I think we need two players but if we start the season with what we have then squad wise i'd be more than happy that we'll be a match for anyone,
Stop jumping the gun and assuming what we have isn't good enough, we'll never know until we give them support and see what unfolds plus I can't see any premier league managers debating on here so i'm saying the management are a sight more qualified to spot a player whether it be on the cheap or 'marquee'
Look forward to the season and enjoy the ride, you only live once!
YNWA JFT96

Well said guv

Hooray Guv a moment of realism in a truly crazy impatient world lol. I really got to agree with you. I feel that whoever else leaves will be replaced. Kelly, Ibe, Borini and to a lesser extent Lucas and Allen will be like new signings considering injuries etc, Wisdom, Sterling and Hendo looking sharp. Our new signings are bedding in very well and Sturridge and Coutinho for the whole season too. Coates and Spearing didn't feature for 1st team tbh last season so its natural they go. Now Downing was much improved last year but I feel his game time this season will be limited and it makes sense if they get a reasonable offer for him to let him go. We have plenty of options in the positions he plays. If he stays he is versatile and can certainly do a job if required. Now onto the enigma that is Luis Suarez. I don't personally mind if he stays or goes as long as the club do what's right for the club. If Skrtl goes replace him. If Coates goes Wisdom/Kelly covers that position. If Downing/Assaidi goes we have Ibe/Sterling/Coutinho/Borini. It's looking like Costas type player to compliment/replace Luis and we still have Aspas and Sturridge upfront too. I would be happy with lb to come in and like I said the other positions if Skrtl and/or Luis leaves. I'm very optimistic for the season and if we only get a left back with no outs between now and sept 2 we will still be in gr8 shape til Jan, Simonpw

06 Aug 2013 06:32:16
The word here in Denmark is that Agger is staying. He loves the club and can't see himself any where else. In regards to Eriksen I would prefer him at another club as I simply does not see him as good enough.

06 Aug 2013 03:38:11
Reading a few comments about people preferring Hendo to Allen in the mid. Would generally agree, though Allen was excellent in the Melbourne game and Hendo barely touched the ball. I do appreciate his work rate and commitment though. If they are competing for a position that's further up the field, then Hendo is much better around the box and has the legs to go with it.

If Allen and Henderson start in our midfield together then you kiss our top 4 chances goodbye.

Allen was really impressive in midfield vs Olympiakos. He did miss couple of sitter but overall his performance was really good. He started to focus his game on attacking and was in the right place at the right time.

Henderson on the other hand has had a good preseason. He is fighting for a place in the team and has looked impressive so far. He might not have the raw quality Gerrard had in his day but he certainly has good potential to be a top midfielder. (Definitely better than overrated Cleverly and Anderson).

I think its is just their bad luck that they have to compete against to class midfielder Gerrard and Lucas.

06 Aug 2013 03:07:06
On this page everyday I love it & appreciate the hardwork. But I'm a little concerned, We have added 4 exciting players, but also we have already sold or loaned out a much higher number of players, Teams are interested in Suarez Skrtel Spearing Assaidi downing & unlikely but also Borini. all these deals are looking increasingly possible, and a few more could become apparent so do you eds reckon that Rodgers has more than a few targets to pursue before the end of the window, especially if Suarez goes? {Ed002's Note - There will be 2 or 3 players arriving.}

05 Aug 2013 23:56:17
Eds, other than Costa are there any forwards that you know we are looking at?

Names such as Martinez and Yilmaz get thrown about but we know that these have little substance behind them.

Thanks {Ed002's Note - Both are potentially available but at very significant prices. Right now the interest is in Costa.}

Yilmaz will only be approached if Suarez leaves, and I wouldn't mind because we would have a replacement and another £35ish million to spend on strengthening the team.

05 Aug 2013 23:29:45
Hi eds. After hearing what costa has apparently said, do you think we can put this transfer to bed then?

Cheers {Ed002's Note - I could only speculate.}

05 Aug 2013 19:42:37
Hi Eds a questions rather than a rumour,

1.Lots of talk Suarez will try to force a move out of Liverpool, how ( typically ) would players go about this, and surely the buying club would have some reservations about taking a player who would force his way out.

2. Also in reality how likely are clubs and players to have verbal agreements ( Reports Liverpool went back on 1 RE Champs League Qualification) Seems an odd way to make an agreement with the money involved {Ed002's Note - (1) He has done this before but it is rare. His argument is over his contract terms. It would make me nervous about buying a player like that and I am sure it would be a consideration. (2) There won't be verbal agreements.}

06 Aug 2013 01:09:50
So it seemed to me were going to see a flurry of players coming in very soon. I like Rodgers he thinks like us fans do, he can see the week links downing skrtle reina these players are not good enough and there being shipped out, hopefully we get a couple more players in to really make a difference! Be patient! The teams playing well if be happy starting againts stoke with what we've got, but to progress we need more quality!

05 Aug 2013 23:32:54
Am I right in remembering that we had a thin/small squad and Brenden wanted to add depth and cover? Anyone else recall this?

We've replaced like for like and not spent a penny so far. Reduce wage bill and lost some main first team players.

Next out after Robinson on loan. Assidi, Skrtel, downing to Newcastle who's squad will start to look stronger than ours, spearing, Suarez

Where are the signings? FSG too busy buying newspapers?

Our thin squad gets thinner. But it's great that we have a tiny wage bill and great we've not got any money to spend.

Won't be so great when we finish 8th (if we're lucky)

Who believes FSG will buy anyone this window that sales haven't funded? The press link us to these players but where is Costa if we've bid the release clause. Where are any of the left backs that were all due medicals last week. Where is Alderweild or the Greek. Where are any confirmed bids.

Business to be done early. It was and that, those four are it. Simple like for like positions, replacements Renia, Cara, Shelvey, Suarez (who is nailed on to go).

Where is the depth. Less than a month to go to sign what everyone knows we need, desperately. Left back, centre back, defensive mid, creative mid, striker, winger.

FSG expect a young manager to get top for minimum with no money, small squad (doubt we can put 25 list out just like last year) and pressure kids under 18 like Sterling (see how he burnt out got injured by over involvement) and Ibe, wisdom, ward, Coutinho (next summers big departure)

Looking forward to new season? Starts in less then two weeks we ready? We look ok if Agger or Lucas or Sturridge pick up an injury? Anyone else watching all above us strengthen along with Sunderland Newcastle Swansea

Well, the lack of negativity and grace period of constuctive criticism and banter was nice while it lasted.

Crunch am hearing ya on the strenghthening bit I do think some real quality talent needs to come.
I don't think the club can entice the players they want and no doubt if Suarez leaves the team is in trouble.
I do think from a future viewpoint apart from Toure the recruits will add something.

Paying a release clause means the club is obliged to sell but it doesn't mean the player has to move to that club if he doesn't want to {Ed002's Note - It really is not as simple as that.}

I have same thinking as you, even if I think/hope/wish that Brendan knows what he is doing, but getting very short of time.

Still I think this season is coming to be very special, I have been loving Liverpool since 1967, and have seen up and downs, and feel inside that this year we start our way up.

Nice to see this site since we hade to sign up, and think the "Eds" feel the same. Feels like the Eds are more relaxed and more "open minded".
Hope its ok english for a lifetime supporter from Sweden.

New castles squad stronger than ours? I don't think so.

I think you are panicking a bit.

In defence: Skrtel will be replaced, Wisdom's progress allows Coates to leave, LB on loan to pressure Enrique and Mignolet & Toure both started strongly.

In midfield: we have Lucas, Gerrard, Coutinho, Henderson, Allen & Alberto for 3 positions. Spearing will go and maybe a player like Jorginho will come in if Alberto moves forward.

In attack: If Suarez goes then someone like Costa and possibly a pacy winger (Atsu) will come in. Aspas, Sturridge, Costa with Coutinho in behind is way better than we had at the start of last season.

Finances: we have been losing money (lots of it) so to cut the wage bill by 10-15m per annum and maybe make a slight profit on transfers, coupled with increased TV revenues will get us closer to break even.

We should be pleased with this as the under-performing, over-paid players are moving on and hungry, younger players are motivated to seize their opportunity.

Stop moaning like a little girl.
You complaine that fsg don't spend money. Rubbish. You are also prob one of the people that said Rodgers wasted 50 odd million last season. Atleast wait till the window is closed before you run to everyone crying about how it's not fare that an oil Barron doesn't own Liverpool.
Rome was not built in a day. And fsg are trying to build lfc into an empire.

06 Aug 2013 09:11:51
Mate, a business the size of FSG considers risk analysis an essential overhead cost. You should appreciate some of many reasons why BR is not given the financial backing KD was afforded.

Things blew up in their face once. Appreciate their resolve to avoid a repeat.

Church never read so much non sense in all my life seriously we have money to spend and we are waiting to get the right players people like you bring this site down with your negative comments support the owners manager and players

06 Aug 2013 10:17:25
Dezyboy.
Did u said we have money to spend? and you honeslty believe that?.
We have money, the proposed 45 mill coming for Suarez.
Its sell to buy now.

Harry, it is not sell to buy, the money is there. The policy is value for money and at the moment it is hard to find these players for the money that Liverpool value them at.
I did wonder whether they needed to get players off the wage bill first, but have been told that is not the case.

06 Aug 2013 12:19:16
Mushroom.
Dear or dear. dear.
You mean the quality isn't outside?. Liverpool Fc quality or Actual qulaity Players?
You honestly believe BR?, Is that the reason we never bid for HM?
We have spend money In january and now somewhere close to 46 mill and sold players for 20 mill. that's roughly 25 mill spend.
Now we need to sell, before We buy, why are we looking for Loan deals?

I believe what I know Harry. You have obviously made your mind up on what you think you know, fair enough everyone is entitled to an opinion.
There is just no educating ignorance.

06 Aug 2013 00:36:52
Just found out that after Stevie's testimonial Olympiacos's chairman donated £100,000 to the SG Foundation (Gerrard's charity).

Huge Respect

Yeah I wish them the best in the Champions league

And their proceeds from the match all want to children's charities back in Greece. Very much a class act.

They also made a proper match of it as well. Good luck to them this season.

06 Aug 2013 00:12:16
Lets say Suarez leaves and goes to Arsenal then we qualify for the champions league and Arsenal don't. Ha ha ha! If only it was that easy.

Allan

Remember Owen
going to Real to win the champions league

06 Aug 2013 08:24:01
i honestly would love that LOL. and rub it in his face, the grass is very rarely greener on the other side. Torres found that out for sure

One of the things I love about my home town of LIVERPOOL.

The grass is always of excellent quality :)

05 Aug 2013 23:53:02
Costa happy where he is, bs story ran with by the media! Put that to bed!

Coutinho said the same thing and look who he plays for

When a player is asked by the media about a possible move away from the club the generic answer is "I am happy at my current club" etc. Players say this out of respect for the club even if there is a possibility that the player will move. Don't look too much into it and see what happens.

Shame Suarez doesn't have the same respect.

Red Rum

Is Costa a replacement for Suarez? Does anyone rate him?

05 Aug 2013 23:34:50
sly sports news just reporting that diego costa dosent want to leave madrid and that he knows nothing of a bid from Liverpool, so we may forget about that 1 yeah eds, to be fair I think 1 of the eds said he didn't know where all these rumours were coming from on this.

Coutinho said the same thing I would put this to bed just yet and borini said it too thelfcullah

Marca wrote that since Liverpool will give him 3 times the sallary he has ow he is seriously considering it even if he is happy where he is so.

Just glad to see he knows how to keep his mouth shut unlike certain other strikers. I think he actually said something to the effect of 'I'm happy to stay so long as Atletico want me here' which is a very good answer but says not much of anything.

Sorry I meant I wouldn't put this to bed just yet thelfcullah