Liverpool Banter Archive October 05 2015

05 Oct 2015 23:47:03
I'm not suggesting JK or CA are dead certs; I would hope we could secure one of them but I've been disappointed in the past!

I'm not sure if I have a preference if I'm honest I'd be happy with either; I just hope we have one of them in place a.s.a.p.

It will be interesting to see how either rate our current squad and whether we are left with too many of one type of player and not enough of others.

Also most managers wish to bring in a couple of players at least a.s.a.p. that they know or would like; given that Ed002 has said we ideally need to sell before the end of the season to meet FFP regulations it will be interesting to see who we would sell (if we are going to purchase anyone).

Personnally I think we have a squad that with the right manager can get a top 4 finish this year and would hope future years we are not buying 8 or 9 players!

Most of us got our wish with BR going; let's hope we get one of JK or CA but let's also give them time; the team has had nearly 3.5 years of not being able to defend coached into them!

06 Oct 2015 02:27:20
They will get the time because we are very patient fans. They are proven managers es pecially JK, who worked with scraps when he got to BVB compared to the players we currently have. Not saying he will work miracles but just excited that he's a manager with a track record of getting the very best out of the players he has and has moulded world class players like Hummels, Lewo, Gotze, Perisic, Gundogan, and so on. That is the fundamental job of a manager and is great at that.

05 Oct 2015 22:20:15
I love our club is in the position where we are negotiating with two of the top mangers in world football. Not long ago those names were scoffed at by some. Just shows the attraction lfc still has.

Anyway I would be more than delighted for either klopp or ancelelotti, however I would prefer klopp as he would be more likely to be at the club longer should his spell be successful. Plus ancelotti has worked with more settled complete squads full of stars whereas klopp has more recent experience of building team and developing young talent.
Like i said though either would do just nicely 😁

05 Oct 2015 22:59:48
To be honest I'm holding back my enthusiasm until we the deal is over the line, knowing as we do that bayern are very very likely to move for klopp, and that he will probably find such an offer very attractive.

05 Oct 2015 22:30:47
if city or chelsea were to go in for Ancelotti, I doubt if he would choose us over them.

05 Oct 2015 23:29:44
I never scoffed at ancelotti, I even posted saying that I knew he would be interested. I have not heard anything recently but least I heard he was keen.

05 Oct 2015 23:39:12
I agree I would be made up with both of them. What a tremendous flip to LFC that two of the elite are interested. It just shows you that we still have respect and affection from two great football men.

06 Oct 2015 06:02:29
Didn't Chelsea sack Ancelotti once? Can't think he'd rush back there regardless as to whether or not we were an option.

05 Oct 2015 21:07:54
Hi,

First time posting on here just wanting to weigh in on Brendan's sacking after having a bit of time to think about it.

I think it was definitely the right time for Brendan to go, and I am usually very lenient with managers. (I thought Rafa and King Kenny's sacking were too soon). I've heard some pundits saying Brendan should have been given more time, I disagree for the following reasons.

1.) Transfers - Spent waaaaay to much money on mediocre players and more annoyingly allowed good players to go to other clubs.

Why sign Milner, when Alex Song is available?
Why sign Origi when West Ham have Payet?
Why not try and get Cabaye?
Why bring in Firmino when you already have Lallana and Coutinho?
Why did you not bring in Shaqiri? Your telling me he would have chosen Stoke over Liverpool if we we would have shown him some interest?

2.) 4 Games that cost Brendan his job -
West Ham 3-0 at Anfield (All managers lose at anfield at some time but it should be a fortress).

1-1 vs Norwich. If there is one team we usually always beat at Anfield its Norwich.

1-1 vs Carlisle - No need to explain that one tbh, poor show.

1-1 vs FC Sion. The Europa League is pivotal to us, we haven't won a trophy in a while but also it can get us back into the CL. Will someone please take it seriously!!!

{Ed023's Note - Song and Shaqiri aren't good enough in my opinion but I do agree with what you're saying in respect to signing better players and buying multiple players who play the same position as players already at the club.

05 Oct 2015 21:32:42
I think it's unfair on some of the players bought who haven't even had an opportunity or have been played out of position when they did get a game.

05 Oct 2015 22:02:37
What a very poor post I have to say, transfers aren't as simple as they are on Fifa or football manager I'm afraid. Why didn't we trade Suarez for Messi?

05 Oct 2015 22:10:35
That jonesred is because we have far too many players, far too many of which play the same position.

And that is the fault of a chaotic transfer policy.

05 Oct 2015 22:11:17
Dont agree with your player choices but agree with the sentiment. The guys transfers were totally flawed. His comments about give me the tools and i can do the job is disengenuous to the club,the squad and the fans. The owners gave him every chance to succeed and he failed every time.

It bothers me that so many of the postmortems being written by the press are stating that the transfer committee hindered him,that the club is being blamed for failure to replace suarez gerrard and sterling.
He had 6 months to plan for Gerrards departure, and we got milner in. On 150000,no.7 shirt and vice captain. That wasnt the transfer committee.and that sums the man up. Remember he was offering fulham cash and henderson for clint dempsey.
Suarez we all knew was gona go. Ok he wanted sanchez who chose london ahead of liverpool fair enough. But wheres the other targets that fit that mold,why was the whole plan one player?surely youd compile a list of suitable replacements not just out everything on one player.
Sterling again knew he was leaving,we haven't signed one single winger or wide attacker.

The matches go back to last season, its not just the four you mention, take since the united loss last march/april, this season he was clearly given the chance to show something different,some change but he reverted to the same failing system with the same woeful performances. No change whatsoever just some new faces. But then after the villa game to come out and basically insult the squad and the owners saying he's not got the tools. sorry but anyone that's sticking up for the guy is delusional.
How many chances did the guy need.
Glad to see the back of him,the fraud.

06 Oct 2015 02:41:13
I agree totally, Cmac. I posted the very same thing about the media giving BR cover for his failures by blaming the TC and the owners. He has been throwing every and anybody under the boss since he's been here for his failures and the media have eaten it all up. They allege that BR revealed to his friends that the TC is hampering him from getting players he wants. Well, we have seen the players he gets when given full control. Allen, Borini, Aspas, Assaidi, Luis Alberto ring a bell? The fact that the media is doing this shows how shameless, dishonest and untrustworthy BR's conduct was as manager. He was a big failure at transfers and the facts bear that out. No amount of spinning or deflection from the media will change that. Good bye BR and don't come back!

05 Oct 2015 20:33:38
Klopp for kop hahahaha get in lads
I can't believe we are actually getting a top top manager!!
New man in charge that has no loyalty to allen skrtel lovren n that's useless flapper!!
A new era is upon us my friends
We go again YNWA

05 Oct 2015 20:50:45
Its not done just yet mate as you can see down the page. Bayern could still come in. i'm mixed about it all now as I respect and follow what Ed002 has explained.

05 Oct 2015 21:00:27
I really hope either Klopp or Ancelotti happens, but I won't be celebrating til I see them holding a flag aloft on the Anfield turf.

05 Oct 2015 19:31:27
I'm surprised that people are questioning Klopp's candidacy. Here's a manager who has never had the largest budget in the Bundesliga but has over a number of seasons identified and developed talent into championship winning squads.

When last did Ancelloti manage a team that didn't have the biggest budget in their respective league?

Ed002 I've read the posts and cannot find why you believe Klopp isn't suited to Liverpool and who you believe would be a better alternative.

{Ed002's Note - Ancelotti would certainly be a better option.}

05 Oct 2015 19:54:59
I'm afraid most lfc fans disagree ed

05 Oct 2015 20:10:40
Ancelotti would be the safe option. Things under him would certainly improve and stabilise. Under klopp if it goes well we could be winning leagues and champions leagues but it could also not work out. Ancelotti will buy players to achieve success klopp will grow players for success. Both would be huge improvements on all the appointments since rafa

05 Oct 2015 20:26:19
Ancelotti's won the Champions League three times and the domestic title in Italy, England and France. You need to be a very good manager to do that. Transfer budget and a "big club" reputation to buy players alone ain't doing it.

Let's not forget he promoted Reggiana, got Parma into the Champions League places, and Milan had dropped out of the CL and seemed to be on the downswing when he went in there. So it's not like he has no experience of improving "lesser" clubs or bringing clubs back to success. He also has experience in England that Klopp doesn't.

As far as I can tell, the closest thing to a failure in management he's had was at Juventus where they sacked him for finishing 2nd.

I'd be very happy with him.

I'd also be very happy with Klopp.

05 Oct 2015 20:31:13
I agree with eds, I think at this moment in time I'd prefer the time and again proven class of Ancelotti. I wouldn't be unhappy with Klopp but Ancelotti is managerial royalty

05 Oct 2015 20:47:15
I think Ancelotti's PL experience maybe more useful to LFC now than Klopp's skills IMO.

05 Oct 2015 21:28:13
I err on the Carlo side, but would be really happy with Klopp. Just my preference.

05 Oct 2015 21:39:53
Either will do just nice we are in this position. Can you even remember a time when two top current managers are both available for free so to speak. Although we never let Rodgers go in the summer I think it has played into our hands in terms of available options.

The squad is impressive enough for either of them to work with over coming months, and expect a keeper in January regardless of which one is manager.

05 Oct 2015 21:40:27
To be honest I am surprised that so many people prefer Klopp to Ancelotti. Ancelotti has proven it in the Premier League! I like the way he goes about his business with minimal fuss. It was amazing at Real Madrid how he managed to fit all the best players into the same team. A job that Benitez is currently finding it hard to do. I suspect for one reason or another he has turned Liverpool down otherwise I think our board would have signed him. There is a strong argument to be made for Ancelotti being current "best manager in the world".

05 Oct 2015 22:16:07
Klopp would be a better fit for us no doubt about that, also I don't think Ancelotti would get accepted with the Chelsea rivalry, a bit like Benitez at Chelsea.

05 Oct 2015 23:09:11
I would love either, I think Ancelotti would bring success and stability a bit faster perhaps than Klopp, but for some reason, I don't see Carlo staying long term, maybe 2 or 3 years. While Carlo's stats as a manager and his trophy cabinet can't be overlooked, I feel Klopp will be a better fit for the club. How he had Dortmund playing was high pressing counter attack football, which is what made us such a force the season we finished 2nd, put it this way, Klopps style is much more closer to BR's style than BR's style to say Rafa's style for example. We would be getting rid of the apprentice and hiring the master. I think the owners will look to see what he has achieved at Dortmund, let's not forget, that Dortmund is also a very industrious city, with hard working people who love their football. I can see it being not too disimilar to Liverpool, i think the biggest factor though of all is that, he is a top class manager who if reports are to be be believed he wants to come here. I don't think Carlo wants the job as much, just my opinion. I would love either in charge, however i am slightly nervous until the appointment is made, i'd hate if we lost either at the 11th hour and get another up and comer. With all that said, i'd like to thank Brendan Rodgers for his service to the club. Love him or hate him, he had us playing the best football I've ever seen in my 20 years as a Liverpool fan and was the closest manager to win the league for us. I really wanted him to succeed with us, and was very lenient on his foolish decision making and poor transfers and wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt but he can't say he wasnt backed to the hilt, no Liverpool manager has ever spent as much money as he has so he can't complain much. i wish him all the best for the future & hope he can bounce back fast ad learn from his mistakes at Liverpool.

05 Oct 2015 22:37:38
Ed002- I'm just wondering do you believe Carlo would be a better fit because of the structure of the club or 100% down to management ability? Plus do you believe Klopp is a good manager, I know he had a tough last season at Dortmund but before that he seemed to have done a great job and the players seem to really like him listening to them before the Champions league final

{Ed002's Note - Klopp is a fine manager but you need to look at the bigger picture of the remit, the ability to work within certain constraints etc.. He is clearly number one choice right now.}

05 Oct 2015 19:17:19
Don't want to worry anybody but I have read Bayern are talking to Klopp. Having been flushed out by the LFC job

05 Oct 2015 19:39:23
So there is a chance (??%) that Klopp will be offered the Bayern Munich job if Guardiola decides to move to ManCity (as touted last year), would this then kick Chelsea in to action fire Jose and try and snag CA?

I must admit that I find it baffling that Mike Gordon FSG's 2nd largest shareholder, a guy that was a founder of a U$6bn Hedge Fund would not have something pretty much lined up prior to getting rid of BR.

05 Oct 2015 20:04:56
Klopp will be they guy. He isn`t going to Bayern, IMO because he won`t do BVB like that. He`s the guy if they can get a deal done. I didn`t say so, Macca did and he hasn`t been wrong one anything LFC since the summer.

{Ed002's Note - Zorc disagrees.}

05 Oct 2015 20:09:40
Totally agree, if FSG got rid of BR without an alternative lined up, who the next manager is will be the least of our concerns.

I would be shocked if they are running around after the fact trying to find a replacement

06 Oct 2015 01:37:13
Totally agree with red wool, I'm wondering (hind side) why Brenda was not sack in the summer ? Maybe , just maybe the mention candidates are not ready to accept the job and now somethings change . But I'm sure somebody is identified and now we are just finishing up the final details .
Btw ed02 , when will you reckon the appointment will happen if that's the case ?

{Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly give a date.}

05 Oct 2015 16:59:10
Ed002

I appreciate its early days mate but do you have an idea if Klopp is open to talking to us and what demands is he likely to have please?

{Ed002's Note - I am sure that he will be open to an offer being put to him. Since the start of the season he has turned down four offers. Do not be surprised to see interest from elsewhere being bought forward from the end of November.}

05 Oct 2015 17:54:41
Sorry mate interest in Klopp brought forward from another club? Surely he will be in place by then. Not sure if I've misunderstood.

{Ed002's Note - You have misunderstood I think.}

05 Oct 2015 18:02:12
Eds you say interest brought from then end of November, i'm guessing you mean AVB wld be willing to leave his current club to get tjob ?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Interest in Klopp.}

05 Oct 2015 18:07:30
Sorry can you explain please?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained over and over again that there is interest in him from elsewhere (Bayern Munich) but nothing was planned to happen until the club are clear on where they stand with Guardiola (which will be by the end of November). The offers from four other sides and now Liverpool seeking talks will accelerate this to the point where there is a very good chance that an offer will be put to him by Bayern regardless. Klopp is also aware that he can wait with every chance of other jobs becoming available at the end of the season - although as I have explained the circumstances at one will probably not suit him. If Liverpool were to put a package (pay, staff etc.) to Klopp - and if that package is agreeable to him, and if he were to agree to work within any constraints imposed by the club, then I see no reason that he wouldn't take over at Liverpool. As I have also explained, I am not convinced he is necessarily the right person for the club.}

05 Oct 2015 18:17:10
Is that from Zenit ED002?

{Ed002's Note - Zenit has already been refused.}

05 Oct 2015 18:40:30
Cheers mate I'm with what your saying now. Do YOU think it will all go through unscathed?

{Ed002's Note - Bayern Munich have put Guardiola on the spot and told them they want him to sign a new contract, but they have told him they have also made an approach to sound out Klopp. As I said, if Liverpool were to put a package (pay, staff etc.) to Klopp - and if that package is agreeable to him, and if he were to agree to work within any constraints imposed by the club, then I see no reason that he wouldn't take over at Liverpool.}

05 Oct 2015 19:13:21
Ed002, while I very much appreciate that this board is currently going crazy over manager candidates and you have to answer and filter dozens of questions you have peaked my interest and I just wondered whether you could elaborate on the situation at Bayern Munich? Is Pep looking to leave or are the board looking to move him on? It would be surprising either way as they seen to be performing very well at the moment.

Thanks Ed, we all appreciate your time.

{Ed002's Note - He is out of contract in the summer.}

05 Oct 2015 19:17:59
Ed. why wouldn't you be wholey convinced he is the right man for the job. I appreciate you may have already explained this. but I can't find the answer. cheers pal

Tom

{Ed002's Note - You need to read yesterday's posts Tom - I cannot keep repeating everything.}

05 Oct 2015 19:42:06
So presumably that would mean klopp takes over after pep leaves in the summer? Strange one but hopeful pep signs a new deal. What happens if we go all out for klopp and he says no? Would that turn carlo off the idea?! So many variables here isn't there! Just want it sorted ASAP so we can stop pondering and start winning again! Bet spurs game is one hot ticket now!

{Ed002's Note - It would make no difference to Ancelotti.}

05 Oct 2015 19:47:36
Today I decided to Register on this wonderful site. One of the EDs mentioned Jorge Jesus's name in the summer transfer window. Unfortunately he is tied elsewhere now. With that being sad, Carlo won't be a bad choice. Give him two seasons to stabilise our club while we monitor some of the promising managers (Berizzo, Schmidt, or the Porto coach).

05 Oct 2015 17:12:56
East midlands scouser is that avatar your mrs??

05 Oct 2015 17:32:03
No that's the woman he stalks as his day job

05 Oct 2015 17:45:19
However, Reet's avatar IS his missus ;-)

05 Oct 2015 18:48:27
EMS must be Kanye West if that's his missus. . now that's a suprise :)

05 Oct 2015 19:14:52
I thought the avatar WAS EMS

05 Oct 2015 19:22:18
The last time ed02 had misgivings about a potential lfc manager he was proved absolutely right.

I am personally an anchelloti man myself but would not complain if klopp came in but with the same reservations as ed02.

I think going by what's been said about both mens circumstances i would not be surprised to see a name from left field given the job.

I would absolutely love monchi as dof but know that is impossible, him and emery would be the dream ticket for me.

Anyhoo i know fantasy land is closed for business atm so anyone who has a winning cv and solid European experience would be good right now to steady the ship and get us back in the champions league.

05 Oct 2015 19:57:47
I am the batman. Adam West.

05 Oct 2015 20:51:30
With that "chest", you can be anyone you want to be, Adam.

05 Oct 2015 16:09:47
Coutinho withdrawn from Brazil squad injured, let's hope its nothing serious and he gets fit very quickly!

05 Oct 2015 15:51:48
Hi Eds, do you really think Coutinho can be a regular starter in big teams such as Barcelona, Real madrid or even Man city?, I think he is a good player but he is way too inconsistency, he hardly turns up in Big games such as the Derby or when we are playing Man u

{Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}

05 Oct 2015 15:59:16
Thanx for the reply

05 Oct 2015 17:51:06
Here is a thought BRAYDO - Chelsea, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, FC Porto, Bayern Munich and Barcelona all have shown an interest in Coutinho over the past two years.

So, I would say there is enough to suggest that he can reach a very high level.

05 Oct 2015 19:19:21
I showed an interest in the Ford Focus down the road. Doesn't mean I am going to buy it

05 Oct 2015 20:53:00
Yeah all these top clubs showed an interest in Coutinho so that they can buy him an ice-cream.

I am sure the Ford Focus is relieved.

05 Oct 2015 15:46:56
How long after Klopp is appointed will Reus be linked?

05 Oct 2015 16:07:26
I'd love him but would prefer Hummels as we need him more

05 Oct 2015 16:25:18
Is already happened on Twitter ahaha

05 Oct 2015 17:14:55
Type Your Reply I'm told Reus is considering Liverpool move if Klopp signs, #Twitter at its best

05 Oct 2015 17:54:57
There is always a guy the new manager brings from his old club. I am not saying it will be Reus, but something to keep an eye out for is whether IF Klopp is the manager, WHETHER he brings looks to sign someone from Dortmund.

{Ed002's Note - And where would Liverpool get the money from for Reus?}

05 Oct 2015 19:16:49
Can't Liverpool get some money from the magic hole in the wall? =[

05 Oct 2015 20:54:25
I didn't say it was Reus Ed002. It could be Sebastian Kehl!

05 Oct 2015 15:20:42
Only reservation I have about CA is, he's got nothing to prove. He's won the lot. Could we be another payday for him?
Klopp looks hungry. Just an opinion

05 Oct 2015 16:04:25
He may have done it all before, but we haven't won a major trophy since 2006, or the league since 1990.

I'd imagine the scenes would be similar to when Mancini and City won the league for the first time in 38 years or whatever it was.

05 Oct 2015 16:16:14
He's been doing it and winning his whole career I doubt someone like that ever loses that hunger to win. same with Ferguson, mourinho etc. That's what makes these managers great.

05 Oct 2015 16:42:45
Yes, that's very true.

05 Oct 2015 17:08:06
There really is pro's and cons like that for both of them and you could go on forever. By the same token winning is his habit, whereas klopp may be a one hit wonder.

Either way, i'll be over the moon with either of them.

05 Oct 2015 17:31:02
Yes me too. hopefully the feel good factor will return to Anfield. It's been quite sullen for ages now. We need a boost

05 Oct 2015 15:01:32
I don't mind if it's Ancelotti or Klopp to be honest
Ok on the down side Klopp has said he'd like to manage United but other than that I don't have a problem
Hopefully one of them, soon

05 Oct 2015 15:47:06
Heavily edited Ed?

{Ed002's Note - I delete a bit which would have upset some of the folks Chris.}

05 Oct 2015 15:57:39
I am very torn between the two and they both have pros and cons. Klopps last season concerns me slightly but I love the quirky character and I think he would like the project but I love carlo as a gentleman. comes across so well and with humility and dignity. I hope we don't end up with someone like Di matteo, as we need experience to steady the ship initially and then push on . Cheers

05 Oct 2015 16:09:54
Fair enough

05 Oct 2015 14:43:42
Ed02 this is probably way too far fetched but is JM's job at Chelsea safe. I know it doesn't work like that and Chelsea and unlikely to have a knee jerk reaction with JM, it just entered my head what if they were to also be in the hunt for a manager and fancied Klopp etc. A silly post I know really

{Ed002's Note - Klopp has rejected Chelsea in the past and the club has no interest in him right now.}

05 Oct 2015 14:02:59
Hey Eds and Reds, posting after a long time.
With Rodgers leaving the club, what is the chance that Ilori, Markovic, Balotelli will return to the club and play here. I assume they are on loan, and there is a chance that they can comeback. Klopp, as of I know, tried to sign Ilori at Dortmund. We don't have any traditional winger, except Ibe in the team as well. Most of the modern day philosophies that have been used by managers involve a single striker system. We have 4 strikers now. So, will Origi be loaned?
There are already 3-4 youngsters who are on loan to get some first team action, Yesil, Kent and others as you all know. What will be their situation?
I'm not concerned about whether we win the title or cups this season, as everyone knows the new manager needs time.
What will be the overall overhaul that will be done by the new manager, and most importantly, will Gary Mac stay or leave?
I hope Pep Lijnders will be staying. Please shed you views on these things.

YNWA

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

05 Oct 2015 15:17:43
I still think both markovic and Ilori have big futures at the club. Yes, Brendan and his team treated them badly but i clearly remember Klopp wanted Ilori at Dortmund and Markovic is a pacy winger which fits perfectly into the fast counter attacking system Klopp deployed at Dortmund. The players that need to be really worried for their LFC careers are Skrtel, Lovren, Wisdom, Allen, Bogdan, Migs and maybe Lallana.
If Klopp comes in, i can see a new GK being immediately targeted for Jan itself than wait for the summer.

05 Oct 2015 15:38:33
I think lallana would be fine

05 Oct 2015 13:30:13
Hi Eds and Reds,
I'm excited at the idea of either Ancelotti or Klopp (Klopp probably being my favourite). But I was wondering who you think is the best for working on develping the youth and giving them a chance.
I think we have a lot of potential in the youth team still and it would be great to see them given a chance rather than spending another £100m.

From your knowledge, who would you think will use the youth effectively? or will both of them?

{Ed002's Note - Please see previous answers.}

05 Oct 2015 13:20:13
I for one am just glad that a new manager will be coming in to assess the squad. He has no affiliation or loyalty towards anyone therefore has no favourites.

This means players like Skrtel are no longer undroppable and players like Milner who have been made promises of playing a certain position will no longer get everything they want.

I think certain players will benefit massively from Klopps style of play (and 4-2-3-1 foramtion).

I very much expect Lucas and Can to start as the midfield pair until and maybe even after Hendo is fit. Rossiter will probably get more chances as Klopp is a beleiver in bringing through youth. Allen is no longer a favourite so has a fight on his hands.

Milner, Lallana, Origi and Ibe will all be in competition for the wider roles in the 3 attackers behind the striker. Then we'll have Coutinho and Teixeira to compete for the no. 10 role. When Firmino is fit he could play anywhere in the attacking trio.

Benteke won't be a shoe in to start as a manager desperately trys to justify his price tag and Sturridge is no longer a favourite so Ings, Benteke and Sturridge will all well and truly be in a competition to lead our attack.

In terms of full backs Moreno and Clyne are perfect for a Klopp team. Energy and pace to get up and down the flanks all day. We might even see chances for attacking full backs in the academy such as O'Hanlon, McLaughlin etc. Unlikely but who knows.

The centre back issue should hopefully be resolved. Klopp will undoubtedly recognise the potential in Gomez so i wouldn't put it past him starting alongside Sakho. Lovren will have to rediscover his Saints form to get near the team. Toure or Skrtel will probably bite the bullet though. Hopefully the latter.

And finally fingers crossed we get a good keeper in in January!

I just hope Macca is right. For the first time in years, I'm excited for our next game!

05 Oct 2015 13:54:24
Not sure we will start in that formation Adam. We have 3 very good strikers in Sturidge, Ings and benteke. You have to play 2 up top for me.
I can't imagine the owners giving the job to a manager who will say I'm going to play one up top and leave 2 out of our statistically best ever striker, a 30m summer signing and the in form fans favourite on the bench.
I'm not saying he won't play one up top if we have injuries or if someone leaves but he has to make do with what he has and try and get a team out of what's at the club already.
It's still 442 diamond for me. Someone is going to have to miss out, be it Can, firmino, Lallana, hendo or Milner but that's Rodgers legacy for you. He should have bough a goalie rather than another midfielder he doesn't know how to play.
For defence I agree with Moreno and clyne, sakho and Gomez for me in the middle as they are the in form defenders for me. Imagine what Klopp could do for the likes of Can, Gomez, Moreno and clyne long term?

05 Oct 2015 13:55:31
Milner and Allen will be worried

05 Oct 2015 13:56:30
Personal prediction: Interim manager until summer as CA is not interested and Klopp want to wait until summer.
Could be O'Driscoll with FDB in summer

05 Oct 2015 13:33:19
Can we wait until our manager is confirm before making the Christmas list?

05 Oct 2015 14:10:08
I don't think Kloop will use young players more just because they are young. No one in our team can compete with Coutinho for the no 10 role no matter who is in charge. Skertl has his problems and may not be a starter but its not that we have amazing defenders waiting to replace him.

He may make changes but I am not sure the changes will alwafans views. For example I admit I never understand the enthusiasm of fans here about Lucas. At this stage of his career I think we need much more from a DM. Also he was extremely lucky not to got a second yellow yesterday, silly silly secound foul I still can't belive he didn't get it.

05 Oct 2015 14:21:42
good theory. one slight problem, the new manager has not bee announced yet, so don't get ya hopes up too much

05 Oct 2015 14:22:54
He hasn't been given a few games then sacked for fun, they must be close to doing a deal for someone Ron

05 Oct 2015 15:14:26
Many fans here want skrtel out of the team but bar toure, he is the most experienced and he has shown good consistence of a number of years. True is not one of best but the bitter truth we don't have any better. I can bet my money on skrtel keeping his place in the team after the managerial change. Gomez is an exciting kid but am afraid he has not reached the levels to usurp skrtel 's place in the team just yet

05 Oct 2015 12:30:27
This picture says volumes about Jurgen Klopp.

Klopp, when he was last at Liverpool FC (click on image for larger picture)

05 Oct 2015 13:24:41
Carlo did the same mate

05 Oct 2015 13:55:27
So did I!
So when do I start? Lol

05 Oct 2015 17:12:23
I can only hope one day i get to touch that sign.

05 Oct 2015 13:11:28
Hi eds. sure you have had loads of requests for this. but what is your personal opinion of Klopp. he only has a 48% win record in the German league not sure if that's good or not.

Thanks.
To.

{Ed002's Note - If gave nmy opinion repeatedly yesterday - read the posts.}

05 Oct 2015 13:27:57
Well what he achieved at Dortmund was good, we wouldn't loose players at the rate they did and we have bigger speeding power than them, so we could be a success.

05 Oct 2015 12:35:55
Anyone else getting there hopes up after Macca and Ed2 confirmed we have made contact with reps of C.A and J.K but worried we'll end up with Big Sam ?

05 Oct 2015 12:40:14
I'm confident that it won't be CA

05 Oct 2015 12:42:34
Haha, I think everyone will be worried until the new manager puts pen to paper quite frankly.

05 Oct 2015 12:02:23
First time poster here but just a quick question, rumours are picking up that it's going to be either Klopp or Ancelotti. In my opinion both very good managers and could make us into a powerhouse like we were in the past and could make us feared by many teams. However, when realistically do you expect a manager to be in place by? Many have said before the Tottenham match but do you expect it to be in the next couple of days or closer to the match itself?

Many Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know. They need to talk to various people.}

05 Oct 2015 12:35:27
I have a feeling it won't be Klopp and I'm fairly certain it's not Ancelotti.

Sad to say it might be another "up and coming" gamble.

Tin helmets to the ready

05 Oct 2015 12:47:43
Surely not again Ron . . They have made mistake after mistake, it's about time to get something right.

05 Oct 2015 13:15:48
Think I will believe Macca over Ron

05 Oct 2015 13:54:12
I'm not putting myself in Macca's league. He has proper sources, I just hear chit chat. I think I believe Macca over me. 😀

05 Oct 2015 10:57:50
So Rodgers has gone, and I'm happy about that, should have been done in the summer, no good time to change manages during a season. Yet us fans need to temper our expectations now after such dross for so long.

Whoever comes in now we need to give time to firstly build up the confidence of the players again, settle the team and and let them adjust to changes in the style of play and tactics etc. Get some consistency and then really kick on next season,

I just fear the majority of us are expecting an immediate turn around and calls for the next managers head on a platter will come if we don't see an immediate affect.

05 Oct 2015 11:58:25
I think we all understand that someone of the coaching mistakes and systems will take a little bit of time to rectify, but unless we are a disaster no one will call for the new managers head.

I'm just excited to see whether players who have been out of position or in poor form can raise their level with new coaching and management. I hope this is a clean slate for the likes of Lovren, Allen, Ilori, Markovic, Teixeira, Firmino etc. obviously some of them won't change but it is certainly exciting!

05 Oct 2015 11:54:12
Heard from 2 sources that Klopp has agreed to manage Liverpool whether right or wrong I have no idea

05 Oct 2015 10:36:04
Hi Ed002

I know its early in the day mate but you said yesterday you need to speak to somone else today to find out if we did indeed make contact with Klopp on Friday/Saturday am whilst he was in England?

{Ed002's Note - They have spoken with his agent now.}

05 Oct 2015 11:09:13
Cheers mate appreciate your efforts.

Im a bit surprised how quickly this seems to have developed with him are you?

05 Oct 2015 11:18:34
Why? Liverpool needed candidates lined up before BR was gone and they need to bring a manager in as fast as possible to take advantage of the two week break. This is no off-season manager search.

{Ed002's Note - Macca explained that Liverpool has already spoken to Ancelotti - who by the way remains in London.}

05 Oct 2015 11:31:51
Haha no I was responding to how lfc forever is so surprised that things have moved quickly

05 Oct 2015 11:32:26
But speaking of Ancelotti, ESPN reckon he's not overly keen. Can you confirm?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained that CA is taking a year off and has a side project going - so he would need some persuading.}

05 Oct 2015 11:41:22
I understand that Nick. What i'm saying is up until recently we had no interest in Klopp and ed explained he had offers from elsewere.

05 Oct 2015 12:14:12
maybe they have moved to klopp because CA doesn't want to be distracted till his side project is completed?

anything could have happened mate.

05 Oct 2015 10:32:53
Not to make this thing worse dor you eds but what's the situation with Simeone?
Does he "want" to change clubs or is he at Atlethico to stay?

Would absoloutly love him at Anfield. Yeah, i know, he has a job right now. ;-)

{Ed002's Note - There is no "situation" with him. Atletico have a really great new stadium being built, they are successful, a tentative approach last January to his agent by another club was rejected and he signed a new contract Not an option.

05 Oct 2015 12:20:28
Thanks Ed. Really appreciate it, sorry to bother you. Have a great day mate.

05 Oct 2015 10:10:34
Everyone seems very excited with the prospect of Klopp. personally I would prefer Simone. Klopp will however develop what we have, obviously Ancelotti has been mentioned but I would expect him to want to buy in big stars.

I would say also that top 4 probably won't be good enough, it is possible that the EPL will lose a Champions League spot because of under performance by English teams in recent years. perhaps the best route is via winning the Europa. not easy I admit

YNWA

05 Oct 2015 09:43:18
This is for edoo2 as we all value knowledge. I would love kloop for energy an passion but think Carlo might be the better option just because he always gets the job done everywhere he goes. If u were in charge who would u choose an why?

{Ed002's Note - I explained this yesterday - you will need to read the posts.}

05 Oct 2015 10:00:24
No problem I read banter page 1 2 an 3 on my phone didn't see any thing sorry

05 Oct 2015 09:22:28
We'll end up with big sam won't we?!

05 Oct 2015 09:59:18
If FSG make another sow's ear of this managerial change then they all need to get out of our club.
Their competence is on the line here.

05 Oct 2015 10:05:47
But you supported BR Ron. so how could they make ''another Sows ear''

05 Oct 2015 11:02:27
I'm talking about the process of managerial change.
For those with poor memory, they sacked Kenny without any idea about who they were going to appoint.
Klopp, Rodgers and Laudrup all ruled themselves out within days. Then FSG invited Roberto Martinez and his cheerleader -Dave Whelan- to a Boston tea party for a few weeks, before going back to Rodgers.
I.e. A sow's ear.

05 Oct 2015 13:53:19
I'm pretty sure they had a fair few targets,and that they wanted to listen to people ideas for the club,hence your mans 42 page dossier. Nothing in that process represents a sows ear to me. Kenny as ED002 has explained had to go because of the Suarez debacle. If BR ruled himself out,how did he have time to construct a dossier on his philosophy for LFC?

05 Oct 2015 08:50:40
Bloody hell, I feel really bad for O'Driscoll and Mac if they're punted. I hope Ljinders doesn't get axed either, heard nothing but positives about him.

05 Oct 2015 04:48:06
Hi Ed's

Sad to see Brendan go but it was the correct decision.

For all his negatives:

1. Irritating Press Conference
2. Changing Tactics frequently that even players failed to understand
3. Playing players out of position

He was always dignified and never showed lack of class.

We have all seen Carlo Ancelotti and know how he works and the respect he commands and believe he can bring good top players to Anfield.

Can you eloborate on how Jurgen Klopp approaches a game in terms of tactics and general play.

Many of use here seem to be die hard fans of Klopp but hope he doesn't bring Diego Simone / Atletico Madrid style of play - attitude to the players.

That will be very difficult to digetst.

Hopeful for good time ahead at LFC.

Thanks

{Ed001's Note - how was Brendan dignified? Never showed a lack of class? Did you not hear his rant about conspiracies? The guy was an embarrassment and good riddance. Class would have been accepting he was useless and clueless and walking away.

Klopp likes to play on the counter, pressing to win the ball back quickly and hitting on the break. It is closer to Rafa than Simeone. Or at least it was with Dortmund.`}

05 Oct 2015 09:15:55
Ed1 at least your sticking to your views good on you mate.

05 Oct 2015 09:21:29
like the class he showed when he threw his backroom staff under the bus to cover up his failings as a manager in order to save his own skin? yeah real classy!

05 Oct 2015 09:28:44
Thank god for ed001. The way people are eulogising Rodgers is complete bull. Up to his sacking people on here have been damning every aspect of the man not just his management but his personal life. So for people to turn face and start saying how decent he is and that they're sorry it didn't work out is just hypocritical and bull. The man was a clown,i won't miss him and his negatives far outweigh any positives. Wish him well by all means but the false postmortems have to stop.

05 Oct 2015 09:16:57
fair enough Ed01 but sometimes you sound like you really hate the guy and unlike you perhaps i do not doubt he tried his best for the club and we did have one very good year with him.
I agree he wasn't good enough and lacked some class in his interviews but i think this was more to do with him outsmarting himself and in this niavity let himself and others down.
Personally i do not like all this hate from people directed at him. Its never been the liverpool way, if that still exists?

{Ed001's Note - I don't hate him, I hate the way he has dragged the club down, but I don't hate him. I do hate this petty political correctness that terms criticism as hate. The guy was a buffoon who constantly embarrassed the club, it is not hate to say so, it is merely an honest assessment of his time.}

05 Oct 2015 12:50:57
Ed, you said Klopp prefers counter-attacking football. If you look at EPL record of the past two decades, I can't recall a counter-attacking team other than Chelsea, which has managed to win the league. It has been mainly dominated by Man U, Arsenal and Man City teams which preferred a more attacking style of play. Secondly, we seriously lack in pace to execute counter-attacks most of the time. So my question is that do you think it would makes sense for LFC to go with a manager whose preferred style is counter-attack when it may not suit the league and the players to begin with?

{Ed001's Note - he is the best available manager, so it makes sense to go for him.}

05 Oct 2015 08:12:12
Anyone else rather have Rafa back than see Ancelotti at Anfield?

Who will be taking charge during the time taken to appoint a new manager?

05 Oct 2015 08:19:09
Maybe he can bring Torres with him

05 Oct 2015 08:49:01
The sacking was well timed.

No Liverpool games until 17th October when we face Tottenham.

05 Oct 2015 09:17:58
Rafa rafa rafa do us a favour lad go have another dump your still talking ****

05 Oct 2015 09:22:28
you say well timed but was it really as there is an international break so whoever comes in hasn't really got a lot of time to bond with the team as such and get his views across

05 Oct 2015 08:03:25
I hope things change. What I mean is, over the last few years, we have been "linked" with some top players. Sanchez, Costa etc, but a common occurrence has been that they have ended up elsewhere. We've spent big on players that maybe other teams wouldn't have paid what we did, Benteke, Firmino, Lallana, Lovren etc. I hope this doesn't happen in our managerial quest. That is, we get linked with Klopp, Ancelotti etc, but end up with Rodgers mark 2.

What exactly do we offer a manager? History? Certainly not a quality filled squad or CL footy. I just hope someone like Klopp sees us as a challenge. Sees us as a once great team with a fantastic support and potential. That's the type of manager I think we need. If it's someone with a Brendan sized ego who wants to prove himself with us, then so be it. A manager who could walk into a job with a Chelsea or Bayern, full of cash and top players, but chooses the challenge that we undoubtedly offer at the moment, that's what I'd like to see.

Who that is is way beyond me, I only read the Klopp rumours and solid info from Macca like most of you. It's certainly a big moment for us, let's just hope that whoever it is is here for some time, cos' that would mean success.

05 Oct 2015 08:24:42
And also, the great info from the Ed's , particularly ED002 of course.

05 Oct 2015 06:30:10
wow , people are pretty happy over the sacking. He probably has done more negatives than positives on his CV. but i think the owners have the right to sack him because he has wasted a lot of their money. they want to build a new stand increase income and i think when they saw large stands empty against Sion they made the decision to do away with Rodgers. it was not not as much results that brought his downfall, it was the quietly dropping numbers in the stadium i think. also it has gone so quite at Anfield this season. Surely the owners noticed that and took a decision. Rodgers was no longer fruitful to their business.
Now the owners have to recruit the best man that is available for the job- klopp or ancellotti or de boer . they have to analyze it properly and look for a long term solution and not a fill gap solution. i am pretty sure FSG want to be make LFC a success and then sell so they have to get the right guy.

for me automatic choice is Klopp. they absolutely need his signatures for a long term commitment. a lot of players in recent past have rejected Liverpool for various reasons and we need a face that top players won't mind playing for /with. for a lot of years the face of this club has been gerrard and once he wasnt tied to a contract the club has suffered a massive loss of identity. So the new manager needs to have an identity. He has to be the Face of this club. Liverpool as of now are irrelevant in the EPL , you can absolutely see it in match day programs and even newspapers . We need Klopp , if not his skills at managing , we need his name and identity to represent the club and make us relevant again.

05 Oct 2015 02:27:01
Just the fact that Ed002 has not shot down any talk of Klopp coming to Liverpool must either mean that he doesn't know enough to comment or that Klopp to LFC is looking increasingly likely to happen. Let's just hope it's the latter!

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation with Klopp.}

05 Oct 2015 01:32:57
What my expectations are for our new manager:

1) Play players in their natural
position
2) Turn Anfield back into a fortress
3) Teach organisation to our defence
4) Have a GK coach improve Simon
Mignolet's distribution
5) Get us back winning trophies

05 Oct 2015 08:46:30
Get us back towards the top and winning trophies. that's it.

05 Oct 2015 00:38:46
Ed001.
You jinx everything mate so please, please, please don't talk about a certain potential manager for the next few days.
You never know all the planets could line up and his first signing in January could be medel haha

{Ed001's Note - I am saying nothing regarding him, don't worry. Thankfully I will be far too busy over the next few days to talk much about anything.}

05 Oct 2015 04:44:45
Wait one cotton picking minute.

Ed001 is busy at the minute.
Liverpool replacing management.

Ed001 Confirmed as John Henry?

05 Oct 2015 08:01:00
Yep ed001 spends $500 a month on voice coaching lessons from craig charles so knowone has a clue who he really is whenjohn henry when he does the podcasts

05 Oct 2015 00:33:55
You'd have to think that if we could secure Klopp this would increase how attractive the Club is to top tier players.

05 Oct 2015 03:44:41
i was thinking he'll bring the current players up next level mate. our squad isn't as bad as the results are. they're not the best in the world, bt certainly capable of top 4.

04 Oct 2015 22:57:43
Hi ed1 what's your opinion so far on ings? I know u weren't keen to start but i think he's bn doing pretty good so far hopefully he gets the confidence he lacks to be a top player??

{Ed001's Note - I think he has done well for us so far, I still have worries about his bottle, but his play has certainly been fine.}

05 Oct 2015 06:16:13
Ed, I know Danny. You have no need to worry about his bottle, it was more confidence, and he is full of it.

04 Oct 2015 12:33:26
Ed001 bit of a long one,but as material possibly for a podcast, could you maybe analyse the 352 or 532 which ever way you view BR's current tactics he's reverted to after being perplexed by Basel?

I would love your input on the formation as a whole. for example quistions I have on it

-How can you have a high press when 6 of your outfield players are essentially defensively minded.,

-We've seriously lacked creativity in the final 3rd and potshotted,does this formation leave us with too much width to really create centrally etc. personally I don't think it helps our numbers 10 players.

If at some point you could give a 5-10 minute analysis using player examples it would be brilliant to hear.

Sorry I missed your live podcast to ask this,I was asleep because I was up early to watch the afl grand final will it be uploaded somewhere?

{Ed001's Note - ok mate, it will probably be a week or so before I can sort that for you, I will add in how Basel use it as well, to highlight the differences. I have saved your questions though to make sure I don't forget. Sorry just a bit busy for now.

Sorry about the podcast, because of technical difficulties we ended up having to broadcast via a back up site, so there was no recording made.}

05 Oct 2015 08:23:02
No worries Ed001.
I was wondering what happened to this question,I thought it had been rejected. Cheers for taking the time out on this.It just interests me and I thought it might break away from simply being doomy and gloomy about match results in podcasts and maybe we could all learn something.

Hope to see more attempts at innovation in the future ed001. If at first you don't succeed try and try again :)

{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, just spending some time with my daughter and my best mate for a few days. He recovered from bowel cancer only to find he has leukemia and now skin cancer too, so just making the most of this time while I have it. There are times he can't have any visitors at all, so I am quite lucky to even get any time with him.}

05 Oct 2015 10:47:51
prayers for you and your mate ed

05 Oct 2015 09:04:21
Sorry to hear that ed001. Yeah spend as much time as you can with him,he'll appreciate it.I'm sure the other eds are competent enough to fill in for a while!

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, though it is incompetence needed to fill in for me I think!}