Liverpool Banter Archive April 05 2016

 

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05 Apr 2016 21:08:44
Ex Liverpool players have done alright so far tonight (sort of)

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05 Apr 2016 23:34:21
Torres sent off. Suarez maliciously kicking a player.


06 Apr 2016 09:53:30
Or if you want to put it another way Torres scored a great goal and Suarez scored two goals and won the game for Barca.


06 Apr 2016 11:15:00
Or if you want to put it a more balanced way, Torres scored a great goal then disabled his team's chance of getting a result. Suarez won the game for Barcelona whilst showing the world what an immature thug he is. Both are near the bottom of my list of favourite ex-LFC players.


{Ed001's Note - to be fair to Torres, while his actions were idiotic, against any team other than Barca they would not have resulted in a second yellow then. In fact there were numerous worse challenges, and one almost identical, made by Barca players throughout the game which resulted in no action being taken by the ref. That is not to excuse his actions, but it does show how much the refs favour the catalan cheats. Busquets in particular, whose main skill, other than being able to kid the world that he is a wonderful defensive midfielder despite being destroyed every time he actually has to do any defending, is diving, gets away with countless fouls and dives a match. I really detest watching Barca play.}

06 Apr 2016 13:41:26
So would you rather watch Barca, Real Madrid or lawn bowls, Ed?


{Ed001's Note - depends on if either Barca and Real Madrid are losing or not?}

07 Apr 2016 00:18:26
Ed, Remember how he got Thiago Motta sent off, feigning injury during the Barcelona vs Inter CL semi final in 2009/ 2010? Shameful and pathetic. These refs and media have been fooled into thinking that these Barcelona players are like happy little lambs who wouldn't hurt a fly. They are just as aweful and I'll be rooting for AM sand I was happy RM gave them the business on their own turf.


{Ed001's Note - Busquets is the worst proponent of the art of diving in football these days. He will end up badly hurt one day and no one will believe him and it will be difficult to have sympathy for the *censored*.}

05 Apr 2016 19:49:37
Was hoping to get a look at vetto tonight

Can anyone tell me if he usually gets a game

Just cause we were linked a few times with him.

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05 Apr 2016 20:43:21
Vietto was pretty good at Villareal and is very similar to Aguero by the way he plays. With Ings coming in there is no need of him TBH.


05 Apr 2016 18:31:03
A lot of posts saying hendo is best higher up. Whilst this may be the case, there are some major issues with this for me. Whilst it utilises his pressing, he won't be as affective there as coutinho or firmino or even lallana. His finishing is almost non existent, can't seem to keep composed. I've said it before I think he can be a good defensive midfielder, he's fit, can tackle, not bad in the air, and pass a ball well. His range is good, but his vision isn't the best, so deeper allows him a little more time to pick passes.
I think if he does play attacking midfield, it takes up a position of a player who is far more influential than him, probably pushing firmino out to the right. If he plays right side, I don't think he's got the pace or trickery needed to unlock teams in the games where the opposition sit back. It's clear klopps looking at 4-2-3-1, so these are basically the three options.
I hope people don't think I'm slating him, I like the guy, think he's the right for captain at the moment, but don't think he will score enough higher up.

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05 Apr 2016 21:21:21
Seriously u lot.
Talking about fickle fans.
So Henderson was unpayable 2 seasons ago when we almost got the league. How badly we missed him during that 3 game ban. Now, after being for a while injured, and playing with pain suddely he becomes a liability and not good enough anymore. Yeah sure. Get ride of him for peanuts, and then let's spend some more, and bring somebody "with the proper quality" for over 30 million. Then if the new midfielder doesn't cut it blame on Rodgers. Oh wait.
FICKLE fans FICKLE fans FICKLE fans.


05 Apr 2016 22:34:22
Spot on, Ksmeron. Some of our fans are getting worse by the day when they slate a player who is CARRYING AN INJURY but still plays for the shirt. Yet these same fans come on here slating players for not having loyalty nor the bottle to play thru pain yet we have one who does both and they slate him. Good Heaven!


06 Apr 2016 00:28:40
Fans have a choice who they like to watch play for our great club and you could sit down with a cold beer and have friendly banter all night on your choices, I guess those that choose to just bash players will always take that road, I scream at a player that's playing rubbish but that's just football, one of the reasons I love this site is such different views, end of the day the players selected for the match day squad every week get my backing no matter what.


06 Apr 2016 01:17:06
He said he wasn't skating him and also said he like the guy. He had an oppinion that's what football is all about it doesn't make you a bad suporter.


06 Apr 2016 01:43:53
I don't think it's noble to play with an injury if that injury restricts you and lessens your performance which consequently has an adverse affect results. I rate Hendo I really do and don't advocate getting rid but I would prefer a healthy player taking his place which will until is injury has heeled (pun intended)


06 Apr 2016 04:57:15
If the club sell Henderson this summer I will be seriously p****d off. He's having an ok season with a pretty significant injury, imagine how good he could be next season if he gets on top of it. Can't believe its even being discussed.


06 Apr 2016 06:20:36
Two pointseparate I disagree with fencey. First is that he doesn't have good vision. like really? He can pick out a great long range pass and can pick pick out a good through ball.

secondly his composure will come. He just needs to have a good run of goals and hisee confidence will sky rocket in terms of goal scoring. Hendo is a very technical player and to be honest it surprises me he doesn't score more.


06 Apr 2016 06:50:04
I agree handsomeson haven't been playing well nowadays. But I don't think pushing him more forward is a bad idea. 13/ 14 season he provide lots of assist. With his flick and some clever first touch pass/ cross. Due to his current position which require him to sit in front of defend more often, he can't utilise what I felt is 1 of his best attributes. Which is making late run into the box. Hendon did have decent pace. His pressing energy will be vital in winning the ball higher up the pitch.


06 Apr 2016 10:37:20
Even with the injury he is my preferred option as CM, Milner and Allen just aren't good enough to start in that role as first team players.

As regards to his passing and vision, no other English player has more assists than Henderson since 2013/ 14. So unless we are saying all English players are rubbish which is a different argument, he is obviously doing something right.

Henderson is definitely one of the most important players in the team, and even thinking of selling him would be stupid.


05 Apr 2016 18:22:02
Hi Eds.

Sorry if it's already been posted. Did search but couldn't find anything.

Is there any update on Firmino in regards to being first for Thursday? It says 10th on Physioroom but so does Kevin Stewart who played for the U21's yesterday.

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea as I am out of the country and have not looked at any of the press releases for this week.}

05 Apr 2016 18:31:39
According to the Liverpool echo firmino should be fine for Thursday mate.


05 Apr 2016 18:37:20
He is fit for the game Smallsy.


05 Apr 2016 18:32:26
Thanks Ed002.

Cheers for the swift reply.

All the best.


05 Apr 2016 19:41:45
Ah cheers for that guys.

That's great news. Can't wait til Thursday!


06 Apr 2016 01:04:26
Firmino is doubtful might make the bench.


05 Apr 2016 18:20:36
Any interest in the Genoa lad? Suso or something like that think he is just what we need?

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05 Apr 2016 23:00:12
Higgins. love it.


05 Apr 2016 16:48:08
Lots of posts here abt Hendo. Let me just say we need him and is the last thing we need to change. Once he and Can get going it will be great to watch.

Our need is : Striker/ Winger, Goal Keeper, and Left back if Moreno doesn't improve.

If we fill these roles with real quality players then we will be good. Just my opinion!

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05 Apr 2016 16:44:40
I know he has left us, but I'm pleased for Suso. He scored an amazing hat trick for Genoa hopefully he will now start reaching his potential.

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05 Apr 2016 21:16:24
Be careful I posted that and got slaughtered on here.


05 Apr 2016 15:43:45
Hi Eds,

I just wondered if anyone could shed any light on the likelihood of Allan gaining a work permit any time in the near future, and what the outlook is for him? I recall Klopp mentioning he rated him highly a month or so back, but am I right in saying we could end up losing him due to permit issues?

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{Ed002's Note - Right now he would not be able to get a WP.}

05 Apr 2016 20:00:34
I don't see why it is so hard for youngster to get a WP in the UK, Santiago Muñez from the Goal movie walked right onto the Newcastle team!


{Ed002's Note - There are criteria that need to be met.}

06 Apr 2016 05:06:04
Haha I never even thought about that when watching that film. Can you imagine if someone made a film about Newcastle now, would be more depressing than Marley and Me!


05 Apr 2016 16:18:29
This summer is the biggest yet in the club history it will tell us a lot about the owners if they back kloop or we have to sell to buy again . Is not only big for us but the rest of league .

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05 Apr 2016 18:35:11
The same owners that have spent money in each summer transfer window which amounts to more than the sums received from players?

Have a look at the LFC website and the first team and see how many players we have and also those on loan.

Regardless of what money they make available we need to shift a lot of players as we still have to pay their wages whilst they are with us (or in some instances a part of them when they have already left) .


05 Apr 2016 18:54:32
We haven't 'sold to buy' in years.


05 Apr 2016 19:03:45
What a nonsense statement! Sell to buy? You should have a look at Liverpool's balance sheet with regards to buying and selling players. I will tell you know, it ain't pretty.


06 Apr 2016 06:51:46
Every summer is the most impt.


05 Apr 2016 16:18:29
This summer is the biggest yet in the club history it will tell us a lot about the owners if they back kloop or we have to sell to buy again . Is not only big for us but the rest of league .

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05 Apr 2016 16:38:14
To be fair mate the owners have put a lot of money into the team already - the problem has been buying players not suited to either the manager at the time, the teams style or both. I think it obvious we will be selling a lot of players this summer and with good reason - whoever we buy needs to be a good fit for the club. I don't care about marquee or a fifa name or whatever, we just need the right player. If we can do that it will make a big difference - if we fail again we will have big problems.


06 Apr 2016 16:20:13
Agree with that seano, we need to get it right this year, it is time the scouts earned there money, no more square pegs for round holes type of signings, we need the right players for the system we will be playing, also I don't care if I've never heard of them as long as they can fit in to our way of playing, Leicester have shown what can be achieved with the right scouting network.


05 Apr 2016 15:59:39
To me hendersons best position is attacking midfielder just behind striker and he can drift towards right wing and deliver quality balls when needed.

It was the same case with shelvy, but now both players play as cm.

I don't think they are good in that position its just because there are enough players to play upfront and not enough quality in cm position

We now hardly find players as good as scholes in mid these days.

Good midfielders easily dictate the play if you look at pirlo, he is no fast, not great at tackles still scholes and pirlo can dictate midfield with ease.

Hendo is hardworking, he can pass shoot, but not best at anything

Even if you look at lucas, he is not great with passing and neither quick. but he is one of the best in breaking opposition play with intelligent tackles.


Hendo and can are good players but not specific with certain quality, that is y they are inconsistent

To me stewart when played in midfield standout to me as he got great composure when ever he is got ball.

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05 Apr 2016 16:25:37
I think his best position is box to box midfielder in a three man midfield. a Lucas (DM), Hendo (box to box) and Coutinho (more attacking/ creative mid) would be a perfect setup for him.

Having said that, I really don't mind him/ Can as 2 deeper midfielders in a 4-2-3-1 because each can cove the other if pushing forward, but it does constrain him slightly and there's some learning curve to go through as neither have spent much time as defensive mids before,

I don't see him as an attacking midfielder in a 4-2-3-1 setup though, not clinical enough finisher for me and would rather have a Firmino/ Coutinho type player.


05 Apr 2016 17:09:18
he looks scared to me when the chance to shoot presents itself? he looks to pass :- (


05 Apr 2016 18:39:14
Henderson best position is outside Liverpool. I do not think Klopp wamts him to be captain and i seriously think klopp will sell him to save Henderson any embarrassment.


05 Apr 2016 19:01:07
We have better players to play the AM role in Coutinho and Firminho, than Henderson.


06 Apr 2016 02:07:05
I think hendersons best position is on the field. Great captain and downt earth north easterner who has more than proved his worth. Fickledidickledy fans me thinks.


05 Apr 2016 15:46:24
I have seen several posts regarding henderson. and his quality.

To me he was primatuly selected as he was playing well behind striker just like gerrard did in his best days.


He could deliver quality passes frim wings as well. he's no winger though.

Kenny playes him as winger as he preferred to play 2 strikers.

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05 Apr 2016 13:48:37
I simply cannot get my head around why some people don't rate Henderson. He has an excellent passing range, creates a lot of goals and attacks with his vision, he can actually cross the ball quite well from open play, his work rate is second to none, his positional awareness is better than anyone else in our team except probably Flanagan, Stewart and Lucas, contrary to popular belief he does chip in with a relatively high number of goals for a box to box player, he is a very solid tackler etc. My only concern with him is that he doesn't have the ability to go past someone, his set pieces are average, and for a big lad he isn't as good in the air as he should be. Aside from that I think he is class and arguably amongst our top players with Coutinho, Sturridge and Firmino. He is definitely our most important though.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but my word. How can you not rate him? My only answer is that it's because he isn't flashy. He doesn't regularly score screamers, or do step overs, or fly into slide tackles etc. He just does everything in the background and keeps things ticking. Even with his injury he is our best midfielder, and without him Can just goes walkabouts because nobody is talking to him.

He is to us exactly what Alonso was. He is a different type of player but he is critical to our style of play and under appreciated. In Alonso's time everyone thought Gerrard was our most important player, but once Alonso was sold, our counter attacking game fell to pieces with nobody else capable of creating an attack with an instant 50 yard pass. In our current pressing style Henderson is just as important yet a lot of people would probably say Coutinho is more so. Hendo sets a tempo for our pressing, and when the press fails and the opposition get out it is always him you can see bombing back into position. Without a player with that sort of energy and discipline our pressing game would fall to pieces. And just like with Alonso, too many people won't relise how important Hendo is until he is gone.

It would be bordering on impossible to find a player with Hendersons quality willing to do the same job. You're probably looking at Vidal, Matuidi, Kante, Pogba and Gundogan as the only players in world football who combine quality with such work rate and do so better than Hendo. Sure you have the likes of Toure, Rakitic, Kroos and Pjanic who have more ability but could you imagine telling them to press high and then sprint back if the opposition played their way out? They'd just look at you as if you'd asked them to commint a crime. Most players of that quality unfortunately think they are above doing the dirty work. There are very few players who will work as hard as Hendo does with real quality. You could replace his work rate, and you could replace his quality. But finding a single player to replace both will be very difficult indeed.

So just think on that before you wish him out the door because unless we can attract a player of Gundogan or Vidals calibre, it would be a massive mistake.

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05 Apr 2016 14:54:33
Spot on MK.


05 Apr 2016 15:03:58
U may be right about Toure, Kroos and Pjanic, but Rakitic and lazy in the same sentence? The guy is the legs in that Barcelona midfield, and he combines that with a brilliant passing range and also good from dead ball situations. Was gutted when he joined Barca.
Agree about keeping Hendo unless a Vidal, Kante or Matuidi is willing to join us which is definitely not happening any time soon so i would stick with the Hendo-Can pairing till the end of next season before looking for another midfield reshuffle.


05 Apr 2016 15:22:09
Nice post Mrs Kardashian

The problem with Hendo is that he is following up to everyone's superman and so whenever they see the words captain and midfield those screamers of Gerrard start flashing through. And just because he does none of that he is oftwn criticized. While people constantly ignore the vital role he does off the ball. He'd probably be one of the last players I'd sell.


05 Apr 2016 15:29:29
Just touching on the Alonso comparison. Please don't man. You're way off. He's an above average player (just) playing in an above average team (just) .

The league position shows that.


05 Apr 2016 16:14:27
He is the power Indian Buzzer but I he doesn't track back rapidly. Barcelona play Busquets in a fixed holding role so that the other two midfielders don't have to get up and down rapidly. Iniesta and Rakitic can take their time. Rakitic isn't lazy per se, but he is nowhere near the engine or Henderson, Vidal, Kante etc.

And Izzo, hypothetically speaking, if my point was in Canada, you just missed it and landed in India buddy. I did not compare Hendo to Alonso in terms of ability or position etc. I conpared their importance to our style of play. You cannot press unless you have players with the energy to quickly get back into position if/ when the opposition pass through the press (Henderson) . Just like you cannot counter attack without a deep lying playmaker (Alonso) .

So stop trying to change the subject.


05 Apr 2016 16:31:28
I didn't miss your point. Your point was simply about the influence a player has in the style of play of the team.

So in simple terms without your waffle - You're comparing Alonso with his impact on how we played then to Henderson's influence on how we play now. I get you.

You're still way off though. The comparison is laughable. And please spare me the tactical nous on how to press.

Good day sir. From India.


05 Apr 2016 14:40:26
19 goals in 150 appearance is a poor stats for world class Henderson. You are making up excuses to defend certain points which doesn't exist.

Henderson is poor positionally. He is poor in tackling and his first pass is always to play safe. He doesn't score goals for all the charging and pressing he does.

Some of the names you mentioned are on the level above Henderson and hence they play for Real and Bayern.

Henderson is decent and unfortunately that's where it ends.

As you said above Gerrard Alonso combo. Henderson should only occupy the Gerrard role back in 2008, while we need to find an Alonso. ( if you know what I mean )

Pjanic is world class mate. He is quite simply on par with Modric.


05 Apr 2016 15:21:36
They are just opinions mate, I am a Henderson fan, but he's been nursing an injury since the Bournmouth game at the beginning of the season, and because of that hasn't been at his best, saying that I think he's been playing better of late.
I remember the 80's when Ronnie Whelan use to get all kinds of stick from the fans, but boy did we miss him when he was out injured.
Don't worry about fickle supporters, we all love different things when watching a player. And we all would change something in the team selection. That's banter and of course we do have Visiting fans from other teams stirring things up.


05 Apr 2016 11:51:06
Hi eds,

Do you know any reason why we haven't held significant interest in Yarmolenko? He's a winger (which Klopp is looking for), and a good one too. Is his price perhaps acting as a deterrent?

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{Ed001's Note - his attitude is more of a deterrent. Plus he is not that good anyway.}

05 Apr 2016 13:42:18
I haven't watched much of him, but his productivity with goals and assists/ creating chances look good, so I just made an assumption he's a good winger. What aspects of his play don't impress you?


{Ed001's Note - mainly his attitude, he reminds me of Simao, only looks good when the game is open. He will have games where he looks great but then he will be missing for months on end.}

05 Apr 2016 14:36:43
He really isn't that good, he is one paced and a bit of a flat track bully.


05 Apr 2016 15:05:22
He has looked good to me whenever i have seen him play. KNows where the back of the net is and very strong for a winger. At least he is a much better option than the other wingers which Ed002 mentioned we have scouted.


05 Apr 2016 15:59:09
Anyone here watch the Ukrainian League? It does sound like a bit of a flat track.


05 Apr 2016 08:02:52
Morning all, just wondering who are we likely to offload this summer? I believe Liverpool have a really bright future under Klopp but not with some of the players we've got at the min.

For me, Benteke has to be the first out the door, never rated him, didn't support the transfer to us and hope he's gone soon.

Dare I say it, I really can't see him moving on in the summer but Henderson. Personally he just doesn't cut it for me. I want to be impressed by him but I'm not. We need better.

Allen, needs to be moved on.

Skrtel has had his time, I feel he's past it now.

Mignolet isn't good enough, get rid.

Then there's incomings, is there anyone we have solid interest in? I understand its probably too early to know but more then anything I'd like to see us bringing in a top keeper, I feel we need it desperately.

I'm looking at Ings as a new signing again, who I'm really excited about returning to full fitness. I think he will be incredible for us under klopp, him and firmino? Brutal, not to mention a fully fit Sturbridge in the mix. I think our attacking options aren't bad at all.

Coutinho, firmino. Amazing
Lallana, will get better, can see him improving already

Thoughts.

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05 Apr 2016 08:15:19
It's rare you can say this but if you don't rate Hendo, you're just wrong.


05 Apr 2016 08:34:34
Hjikle and you rate him? That's fine. But I don't believe I'm wrong, I really hope of course that I'm proved wrong. But I can't see it happening, he's average at best. Liverpool can do/ deserve better.


05 Apr 2016 09:04:40
As Shankly himself put it, football is like playing the piano, you need 8 to carry it and only three who can play it. Hendo is a piano carrier and open of the best we have at doing the hard yards.

We don't need a team of 11 stars, we need all types to complement each other, just ask Leicester how important that can be with Kante and Drinkwater ensuring that Mahrez and Vardy can express themselves.

Coutinho, Firmino and Sturridge are the ones capable of making music on the back of the rest of the teams hard work.


05 Apr 2016 09:07:10
Agreed on most points, disagreed on Henderson. Of course, you are in your right not to rate him. Personally I like him very much, he was a key and VERY underappreciated part of everything good shown by the club in the last few years, and I hope he can be again.
You say that he is average, but what do you mean by that? That he does not score enough goals? Few central midfielders do that, especially if they have to play deep. We could replace him with a specialist DM or a speacialist playmaker, who would be better than him in one aspect of the game - but I can think of very few players that can fill in both the offensive and defensive contribution of a CM that we need in this system.


05 Apr 2016 09:08:05
hjikle& Jürgen, it doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong because the only persons opinion that matters is Klopp's.


05 Apr 2016 09:43:24
Strange you say Hendo after he's just had his best game since he has been back against one of leagues best teams 😞.


05 Apr 2016 10:00:10
Regarding Hendo. Some fans need to be careful what they wish fo, because sometimes.
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" You don't know what you've got til it's gone "


05 Apr 2016 10:35:19
I understand why people think Henderson is average, however I wouldn't get rid of him, no way. He just shouldn't be the focal point of our play, we need a more naturally talented player.

I see Henderson as one of those kids that has worked and worked and worked to get the best from his ability. That's a great thing and a very good example for younger players, but he naturally doesn't have the core talent to be the focal point of a team looking to win the title. That's my view.

Can he pass? Yes, to a good level but nothing out of the ordinary.

Can he dribble? Um, not really. He's a tad rigid so doesn't really have that natural balance to go off either foot. It's more in straight lines.

Does he score? Not really, but I think it's more down to him trying the perfect finish instead of just hitting the target. I think he'll get a lot of goals soon enough though.

Does he tackle? Again, not really. He's not brave to put it bluntly so shirks a challenge and doesn't commit fully. He likes to shout off a bit (linesman and ref) but his actions speak otherwise when it comes to the tougher side of the game.

Can he influence the game? I think he's getting there. On times, I can see it.

So, what does he do well? For me, he would be great alongside a Luka Modric type player. A player that is the technical hub of the team allowing Henderson to do everything well without the pressure of being the focal point. His energy, effective passing, excellent pressing, clever running and good positioning would work well alongside a more technically gifted central midfielder. That's my view.


05 Apr 2016 10:35:24
Hendo makes a difference on the pitch. Look how we crumbled in the middle of the park against Soton without him. he's been playing with an injury and still done a good job. He's a hard worker and can continue to become better and better. Definitely not a player worth removing.


05 Apr 2016 10:36:55
Sure I understand why people stand by him. but I stand by what I say, he's not good enough and never will be, it's not because he doesn't score goals, its because he doesn't do anything! sure he has the odd decent game but its a rare occurrence having said all this at the moment he is a Liverpool player so will get my support, I hope he improves, I just feel a team like Liverpool can do better. who knows, maybe I'm living in the past a little too much. but one things for sure, he's no Gerrard and never will be.


05 Apr 2016 10:52:42
Mignolet has a new 5 yr contract, we won't be getting rid as Klopp clearly rates him.


05 Apr 2016 11:03:55
Jurgen I agree with everything you say even regarding Hendo to some extent. If we have definite top four ambitions then Hendo playing central is not good enough especially playing with an injury that nobody knows when it's going to be cured. CM is such a vital position, it allows the attackers to play and provides cover for the defence. There is no room for sentiment in football. I don't think we should get rid of him, if fit he is a force to be reckoned with and his effort is second to none but as a base for our team to be built around? At this present time, No.


05 Apr 2016 12:57:00
So jurgen when we almost won the league how did we go when he was 'doing nothing' on the bench? He isn't spectacular but nor is he trying to be. He was arguably the reason why we didn't win the league, not Gerard's slip. He's been injured and not in form but that doesn't put him in that bracket of 'not good enough and never will be' because statements like that just make you sound clueless. He was one of the best players on the pitch against Spurs? So explain that' never will be'.


05 Apr 2016 13:18:29
Jeurgen, your post about Hendo "doing nothing on the pitch" shows exactly how little you know about the game. if there`s aplayer who does next to nothing on the pitch, said player would be Milner but I digress. We have seen what Hendo can do when he is fit and firing, which is NOT the case here as he is carrying an injury YET still wants to play and contribute. Your slating him lacks substance as you are kicking a man when he`s down. Pathetic attitude, really.


05 Apr 2016 13:51:15
Ron Keague - Just because Mignolet has a new 5 yr contract doesn't mean he will automatically be 1st choice, I personally would like to see Mignolet stay on as 2nd choice keeper.


05 Apr 2016 13:57:48
Redohio. Finally someone has said something of relevance on this matter! Henderson has a heel problem and cannot perform to his own required level.
Been covered by himsel. Eds on here and other posters.
Really do need to do some investigating on matters before there posted.


05 Apr 2016 15:07:31
Any hope that LFC will have of finishing in the top4 next season will evaporate if Migs starts the season as our first choice GK. He is a massive liability at the back and not fit to be 1st choice at an ambitious club. Would rather we keep Ward as 2nd choice and sign a quality 1st choice GK in the summer.


05 Apr 2016 15:40:31
Jurgen I think your spot on hendo is definitely not a player to build a team around. He not too class in any aspect of the game apart from running around a lot bless him. Captain no way! A poster listed his pro's and cons above and I think they were spot on and certainly don't read like a a cv for a midfield captain for now and the future.
Yes he been injured this season so not at 100% but even when at 100% he still doesn't possess the attributes. The system we currently play requires him to be a deep lying mid when he is naturally box to box. He has never developed as a box to box because of Bodgers constant changes and mismanagement of every player in the squad. Hendo does not fit his current position and the system ain't changing.
With regards to his injury costing us the title? Ho home your drunk.
A great lad works hard but not enough if we want to move forward. Everything behind the front three is on thin ice and is replaceable watch this space.


05 Apr 2016 15:51:25
Bogdan, Enrique, Toure, Allen, Benteke, Luis Alberto, Balotelli, Yesil, Tex, Ilori, McLaughlin, Dunn, Lloyd Jones, Jordan Williams, Maguire, Markovic and perhaps one of Lallana or Milner, will be the outs IMO.


05 Apr 2016 16:56:07
Mignolet will be first choice keeper next season IMO.


05 Apr 2016 17:11:59
Agreed Redman11 with everything you say.

Redohio so I know nothing about the game because I don't rate our captain who has done literally nothing? ok then mate you have your opinion and I'll have mine, doesn't mean to say I know nothing about the game lol that's got nothing to do with it, we're discussing a player who you clearly rate. for some odd reason.

I knew it would be a sore subject to bring up but it actually surprises me how many people think so highly of him. again, he has the ODD good game. yet some of you act like he's incredible? come off it there's miles better out there I can think of loads in the premier league alone who i'd much rather have.

Mark my words, we get into the champions league he will not have a place in this team, not under klopp he won't.


05 Apr 2016 17:13:23
I don't rate the whole squad, sell the whole shebang and start from scratch i say.


05 Apr 2016 13:37:46
Redohio

Don't fool yourself. It's not completely of his injury. Klopp plays a 3 men midfield with one sitting and one slightly pushing forward of Both sitting deep. Hendo and Can are asked to to do this duty which is the real issue behind his lack of goals. Can is positionally poor leaving Hendeson to sit deep and cover his back.

Play Henderson high up else he isn't scoring goals regardless of any injury.


05 Apr 2016 22:44:28
Wrong DG, Klopp plays two in CM with Firmino as the supporting striker behind the striker. Klopp considers him as a striker and not a mid, per Ed01. Again, people have very little idea what their talking about and just slate the boy for pathetic reasons. Leave the boy alone and let him play and recover from his heel injury. We trash players who lack bottle and loyalty yet we have one with both in abundance yet he is slated and kicked when he's down. As I posted before, this is a pathetic attitude. Hendo is phenomenal when on form and this is coming from someone who wanted him gone when BR arrived but he won me over. Some may not want him as capt nor at the club and that's fine but to say that he does nothing or isn't good enough is just nonsense as we have video evidence of the contrary.


05 Apr 2016 03:33:46
Daydream time.

If we can sign ANY player in the summer, who would you want? Only 1 .

For me it's not Messi or Ronaldo or Reus or Zlatan - it's Luis Suarez.

What about you guys? Ed1? :)

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05 Apr 2016 05:20:41
I like DDG . GK department alone cost us min 12 pts.


05 Apr 2016 08:11:30
If going for anyone would have to be neymar, such a brilliant player and got age on his side. Second would be courtois or de gea has desperatly need a new gk.


05 Apr 2016 08:15:58
Pogba for me. Although if Kante has another season like this one.


05 Apr 2016 08:35:31
I agree, give me Suarez over anybody.


05 Apr 2016 09:08:15
Reus of a few years ago.


05 Apr 2016 09:11:20
I'd take Suarez over a new keeper all day long, because if Migs throws 2 in, with Suarez in the team we would still score 3.


05 Apr 2016 11:10:52
Mine is probably a bit out there as mine isn't really a world star. William Carvalho would be my choice. He is the solidity that's missing from our midfield. His tough tackling and quick winning of the ball back would give us the perfect base for our present attackers. He has good technical ability for a tough tackler to and can pass. If not him then Pjanic, Kovacic or De Gea.


05 Apr 2016 11:24:28
Personally I'd take bale even though I don't like him at all. Think someone with that sheer physicality and power and being good in the air is needed in our attack. Plus I think coutinho firmino bale in behind studge would compliment perfectly!
Close second would be lloris or ddg both keepers would add an extra 10+ points a season easily.


05 Apr 2016 15:08:54
Tough one between Suarez and DDG. DDG would get us the extra 10 points while Suarez would take our attack to a whole new level. Shame neither is a feasible option for the club.


05 Apr 2016 15:12:46
1) DDG - would fix the biggest weakness in our side (even if Migs has improved of late)

2) Neymar - just picture him alongside Firmino and Coutinho! nuff said

3) Pogba - he could be our midfield general for years to come (just like Viera was for Arsenal)


05 Apr 2016 17:16:48
Yeah let's bring back the bloke that did everything possible to get out the club including threatening to go on strike and take the club to court. Short memories some folks. I won't go into his racist and biting antics that brought the club into disrepute.


05 Apr 2016 01:38:29
Would love to here the Eds opinion on the subject of footballers as commodities to the big clubs. Earlier i asked about celtics Roberts who was bought by city then loaned out. Reminded of chelsea doing the same with lakuku and de bruyne to name but a few and to a certain extent madrid and morato and the other kid who went to napoli ( can't rem his name) . Do big clubs do this to turn a profit on a player and do you agree with them flexing their muscle so to speak. Buy a talet doing well. loan him out and if it doesn't work out sell them on. Seems to always be the same culprits.

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{Ed002's Note - Some clubs have a well structured loan system in place that gives younger players experience. Each loan player from Chelsea has a liaison officer assigned (some are ex-players) who regularly see them, deal with any issues and report progress back to the club. For instance there was an issue with Lukaku and the club decided at the start of 2014 that he would be sold in the summer. His liaison tried very hard to reverse that decision, but to no avail. There was also a problem with a couple of players in the Netherlands and that resulted in the club having them get involved with spending some time with the local community (schools and charities). Chelsea has also helped clubs they have and are building relationships with - this may include providing training facilities, loaning coaching staff, having ex-players works with them in some capacity etc.. They have a structure in the Netherlands and Belgium in addition to relationships with South American and old Eastern Bloc countries. They are currently working a deal with a Champions League side as well. In Italy I know that the clubs with a significant number of players on loan have regular contact and bring them back as a group for training on a couple of occasions mid-season. I am sure there will be someone at Liverpool keeping contact with the younger players on loan. In the case of Ojo there are legal responsibilities as he is still a child. Manchester United has a couple of long-term relationships with mainland European sides which have helped considerably in the past. Many clubs in Spain and Portugal have built relationships with other sides and it helps with brining in players from South America.}

04 Apr 2016 23:30:09
Ed02 if you will
I have read the posts and the Web and don't understand where the owners are looking to sell. You stated they are in it for a profit? . Have they made any and wouldn't it make sense to get tv money 1st? How much of a profit are they looking for? And last my opinion of them is they are good owners for both teams they run.
Thanks either way
Matt.

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{Ed002's Note - I have not said anything about the owners looking to sell.}

05 Apr 2016 05:38:31
They are looking for the least amount of profit they can get 420FL.


05 Apr 2016 11:29:16
Don't think many people ever in business look for the least amount profit possible?
Also the TV money either coming in or having come in wouldn't affect the price of the club as either way it's coming in. The biggest thing that could impact the price they could get for the club between now and the end of the season is winning the Europa league for a number of clear reasons.


04 Apr 2016 21:53:00
Ed1 I know you think one OK f our main problems in the side is at full backs at at the start of next season let's hope Flannois upto speed, as I know your opinions on Clyne and Moreno, would you still keep both in your squad and which left back would you sign?

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{Ed001's Note - personally I would offload both and replace them. I have no idea which left back I would sign. I have not seen one that stands out at all.}

05 Apr 2016 07:53:34
Joe Gomez?


{Ed001's Note - he is not a full back.}

05 Apr 2016 12:28:13
Kolasinac is my preferred option. Only 23, athletic, powerful, solid defensively, good delivery etc. I think he's brilliant. I'd have him and Smith for left back with Flanagan and Gomez for right back. I know Gomez isn't a full back but right back is where he played for Charlton because he wasn't physically ready to play in the centre. I think that is 4 very good options for the full back positions. The likes of Randall and Maguire can step up if there is an injury crisis as they've shown in the past.


05 Apr 2016 13:21:58
Ed, there are some good LB`s out there like Rafa Guerrero who is just that good. hector is good as well and is two footed but can he defend? haven`t seen much of Kolesinac but many say he`s very good so all in all, I hope the scouts at the club will get us one who can actually defend.


05 Apr 2016 15:53:06
Jonas Hector over Sead Kolasinic anyday for me. Defensively, Hector is a better player IMO.


05 Apr 2016 22:45:51
I'll take either then, AG.


 
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