Liverpool Banter Archive July 04 2013

 

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04 Jul 2013 23:11:33
Mirror reporting that Southampton are after Damiao for £21million. I hope if by any stretch of the imagination this is true and he would consider moving to Southampton that LFC would try and get him to replace Suarez. One of the eds was saying a few transfer windows back that we were trying to sort something with him?

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04 Jul 2013 23:48:36
You stand talkingto your Mirror and then report it? Wow that's sick.

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He isn't the sort of forward we look for under BR. We like versatile fluid forwards such as Suarez Aspas Sturridge who can rotate.

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Haha versatile fluid forwards like Aspas. He hasn't even kicked a ball yet he could be awful.

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04 Jul 2013 23:09:18
Suarez will not be movin to ANY team in England. He will only consider Spain and Germany!

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Or Russia if they offer him enough.

Pere G.

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Or Italy.

Or France/Monaco.

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04 Jul 2013 22:35:42
PSG have agreed terms with edinson cavani. So looks like Chelsea will move for Suarez as secondary target.

AP

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They will use ivanovic as bait

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Two words - AS IF!

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04 Jul 2013 22:34:07
Hi eds,

Just wondering if Liverpool will sign another GK if we sell Reina? Mignolet is clearly the starter, but I was not impressed with our backups in case her gets hurt. Any thoughts? (Obviously a back up wouldn't be a big name, but perhaps a young buck)

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04 Jul 2013 22:00:41
Hi eds do you think Liverpool would be interested in Torres if he isn't part of mourinihos plans I know he's not the same player anymore but for 10-15mil Allen was 15mil and i'm sure he could offer more {Ed030's Note - No I will just leave it to you to think about the politics of that move. }

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5m would be a more realistic price. He hasn't had form since 2009

cozinoz

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If he's payment was based on sulking alone then yes, the mans a rat
5 gold stars

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Well said 5 gold stars

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04 Jul 2013 21:56:09
Wtf, where on earth did the Suarez to Chelsea nonsense come from? He'll be going to Everton Ed.

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04 Jul 2013 22:43:29
No, he is going to Wigan in exchange for Maloney;) pluss 3 signed Waro t-shirts.

'If you don't sell me to Madrid I'll bite Ivanovic'
Luis Suarez. Fantastic professional*, devoted DF.

*professional= A complete muppet.

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04 Jul 2013 21:37:04
Eds, Spanish Media Outlet, AS, are reporting Chelsea are very keen on Suarez. Do you know anything of it? Thanks. {Ed030's Note - I doubt it. }

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04 Jul 2013 21:33:49
Eds fellow reds, so arsenal not in the running now as according to agent Luis close to joining Chelsea for 40 million euros {Ed030's Note - I think he would be hypocritical should he move to Chelsea as his reason for leaving Liverpool was the English press,Things would only get worse in London.}

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Plus the press would he running hourly updates on if Suarez has taken a chunk out of ivonovic in the dressing room yet.
Hopeless rumour that one.

MIKEY

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04 Jul 2013 22:12:08
I believe the Suarez to Arsenal story is merely a steamcurtain to expedite the Higuain transfer

SwissRed in Toronto

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Hhahah just nearly died LOL-IN.steam curtain haha

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Steamcurtain can we class this as the years first smoke screen reference?
buck dodgers

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"steam curtain" the only allowable phrase for smokescreen. you sir are a scholar!
Flynn

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04 Jul 2013 21:45:10
Please can every single poster refrain from using the word smokescreen. Thanks

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Perhaps this is a smokescreen for people to use the word smokescreen more often? Ed's, your opinions?

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You are right, masquerade, camouflage or maybe even disguise or pretense are much more suitable. Come on guys where's your thesauric spirit?!?!

SwissRed inToronto

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04 Jul 2013 21:08:04
Liverpool are in pole position to sign Toby Alderweireld. The player has been heavily linked with the Reds since May, with a bid in the region of £8m thought to be enough to prise him away from Holland.

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Really hope this ones true quality young player at a bargain price. Him and Moreno from Seville and maybe Ilori then that's the defence sorted.

Jonesred

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Brilliant if true.

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04 Jul 2013 21:05:48
So, what negotiations are these with the player and the agents? How does this work? I'm vaguely guessing that LFC gives the money to Mickey (on loan to him?) and he pays that money to Shakhtar to get out of his contract. Now, the said loan becomes null and void only if Mickey signs to play for LFC at a pre-decided wage/tenure structure within a certain duration of the loan? Knowledgeable guys, please enlighten. {Ed002's Note - Ignore it - it is a complete red herring.}

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04 Jul 2013 20:51:38
1st time post from a long time fan. Just wondering how you feel our transfers so far have planned out. Do you think they will improve the team in order the challenge for a top four spot which has got to be our main target. My thoughts are that we need at least three world class players and may need to make exceptions to they policy regarding wages to attract these type of players.
Just one one the striker situation. Quite simple really. If we sell a striker worth £30-40 million then surely we must replace him with someone of that calibre and quality to score the goals that will be required to finish in the top four not just challenge them.

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I can see where your coming from mate but who is to say that just because 1 striker is more expensive than another he is going to score more goals . I have said it before but every player in world football from messi to a kid in the park has to start somewhere . YNWA
Jamesy

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Long time reader have not posted in a few months!
I think we have to focus less on the players price and more so what he offers the system that rodgers is trying to implement, we forget it is a team sport, the individual does not outweigh the unity of the team, rodgers see's weaknesses and strenghts within our team and buys players accordingly whether they are 20 million or 10 the cost is irrelivant there function in the system is all that counts! wait and see how the new lads fit.

flynn

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04 Jul 2013 20:33:15
Are we talking to Mickey, because shakhtar keep denying we've made an offer?

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The question you need to ask yourself mate is, should we be talking to him at all? Me personally I would have no problem with him coming here after going AWOL and now going on strike to get his move, but the Suarez haters on here SURELY can't want us to have dealings with a player who behaves in such a way.

Waro

p.s. or as I said last week, is it ok for a player to behave this way when it suits US?

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Where there's pleasure, there'sepain.
What goes around, comes around etc etc.
If Suarez went on strike we'd be fuming, especially if we then had to sell for a few million less but that's footballers for you.
Very much out for themselves and nobody else.
But I'd like to know why Shaktar put in such a strange term into his contract in the first place.
They knew the risk and took the chance.

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Suarez isn't on strike he bit someone.

MIKEY

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Oh I see Mikey, so it's only certain types of unacceptable behaviour that you disagree with? If I was walking around your neck of the woods and I punch a lad in the face for know reason, would you defend me? " he punched a lad for know reason, it's not like he mugged a pensioner, leave him alone ".

Are you familiar with the word HYPOCRISY MIKEY?

Waro

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Only if its spelt correctly waro! What an amoeba you truely are(and your analogy is crap also)
In Buck we trust!

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Wow you are an angry guy. All fight and standing your ground/defending your turf etc. Guess you have had it tough.

Need to calm down lad. The gents here aren't your punching bags to rid your frustration. Its a banter site and you are ruining it for most.

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There is a difference between going AWOL and on strike to engineer a move and to racially abuse someone and bite another fellow pro and then blame everyone else for you wanting to move. Neither is right. Is one worse than the other? You the readers can decide. ;-0

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Oh yes MIKEY, as a footnote to my last reply, didn't Suarez bite somebody before we signed him? I can't quite recall how you reacted to him signing then, but I'm sure you where totally against having such a person at the club ;)?

Didn't hear many outraged posters that night, who found biting abhorrent, but he was signing FOR US, so it must have been glossed over!

Waro

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Waro makes me laugh. rose tinted glasses with Suarez yet again. Got a serious man crush and will crowbar Luis into any conversation he can. He just doesn't want him to leave as he would need take all his posters down in the shrine at the end of his shed. If MH goes awol from lfc then its a case of fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. Well Suarez has bit two players so shame on us.the guys a person. Amazing, talented and exciting footballer but an utter person because that's what you are when you BITE another person. Its a dangerous, childish, disgusting thing to do and on tv aswell. Waro would love to be bitten by Suarez I bet tho. Get over him Waro, if MH let's us down once he wears the shirt then yes we will probably turn on him. Right now no one knows what's going on and he isn't a Liverpool player

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Yet again every reply focusing on me because you all know what hypocrites you all are, Dev the human thesaurus, deflecting tactics don't work with me son, I'm right in what I'm saying and you know it.

Fensh, no anger at all my mate, I posted with a huge smile on my face because I know I'm right and you know I'm right, but as I've just said to Dev the mushroom head, deflecting tactics don't work with me.

Your all two faced and I have just shown to what degree, me I say, use the players the way they use the club so Mkhitaryans antics don't bother me at all because I want what's best for MY CLUB.

Waro

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04 Jul 2013 22:55:31
Everytime I visit this site I start thinking YAWN once I see Waro the almighty muppet has posted.
It either him calling someone a nugget or bacon cheese burger or that FSG are Satan.
Tell me you work at Burger King mrs waro?

Mr.X

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I was very cautious about that move for Suarez all the way back then waro mate if you must know. But some people deserve second chances, he had one and ruined it (evra), had a third and ruined that (handshake), had a fourth and ruined that (bite), had a fifth and ruined that (his current behaviour). that's the main issues anyway.
And like another poster has just pointed out going on strike is hardly as bad as biting someone and all his other crappy behaviour, not seen such hostility towards strikers since thatcher mate.
If you don't like the player or don't think he's all that good then fine but don't try and lower him to suarez's
level, when it's clearly not justified and very unfair.

MIKEY

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Let's just be mid table with all nice guys in the team.

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The majority of posters seem to be saying Sell Suarez because he's angling for a move elsewhere. Get lost Luis. Posters are praising Mkytarian because he's angling for a move to us (maybe). There's no hypocrisy in that. It's simply the fact that we want players who want to play for Liverpool FC and anyone who doesn't can lock the door on their way out.

cozinoz

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He couldn't work out burger king because they have enough whoppers already.

MIKEY

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Tbh I agree with most of what waro has said

.z.

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04 Jul 2013 23:44:52
You're as right as a headless chicken wing mate;) I'm using food references to be able to communicate on your level:) was it mushroom head? Anyways I think your talking Ketchup and you should stop treating everyone like a bunch of potatoes. Because in the end you like putting fish-sticks in your mouth and that makes you a gay fish, even though you think you're a genius.

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It would be hypocritical if Mkhitaryan had biten two players, racially abused another then didn't shake his hand, had a bit to do with getting a club legend sacked, was a bit of a ball hog, diver, and had a few rather not-so-nice tackles/stamps on fellow players and was currently moaning to the press about how great Liverpool was and we still wanted him to come in anyway. Comparing Suarez's actions with Mkhitaryan's seems a bit of a stretch.

That said, Waro, you make a fair point that perhaps his behavior is not the greatest but honestly I don't know enough of the situation with Mkhitaryan to have an opinion one way or the other on his current and past actions and it's by no means certain he's on his way anyway.

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Warro leave me out of it, Dev's not got my head.

MUSHROOM

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So when we sing "You'll Never Walk Alone", Cozinoz; What we really mean is until you decide to play for another club who are competing in the CL; then you can duck off, you pathetic excuse for a human being, and after all we stood with you through? Walk on Son?

There might be a little hypocrisy in there somewhere I can't tell, I've borrowed Waros Suarez glasses.

PS: Top remarks from you Waro, fantastic posts, I tip my hat to you for being courageous enough to stand your ground and defend Suarez as we have ALL done throughout his time here, people turning their backs now are indeed hypocrites who'll come up with any excuse now for turning their backs on our best player because he "may" leave.

"You'll Never Walk Alone" needs changing I think.

SR (StrabaneRed)

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PS Waro.

You're going to see them same hypocrites sing "I just can't get enough" and going crazy in front of the T.V when Suarez scores next season when it's been decided that'll he'll be spending at least another season here (If that is what is inevitable).

SR (StrabaneRed)

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Are we not allowed to change our minds Waro? People aren't hypocrites for changing their opinion on Suarez over a period of time. It's called coming to the end of your tether!

As Mikey said, he's had more chances off the field than he's missed on it. While I do have sympathy about the press perceptions, the man does have a personality problem and he just hasn't convinced me that he's capable of dealing with it.

Besides, in terms of risk and reward, I can't believe that his behaviour will improve and if last season was anything to go by (his best by a country mile and we still came 7th) the rewards aren't high enough either!

I've loved him too lads, but it's time to let him go.

Coyle's Law states.

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04 Jul 2013 20:27:00
Does anyone know the proper address or a link for this summers bosman list cheer eds or anyone

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Have you herd of google?

billynwa

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Wouldnt that be a gaggle of google?

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Post of the day goes to the 2nd noname!

HB

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Brilliant

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04 Jul 2013 20:02:34
Hi Eds,
do you have any update regarding the Balázs Dzsudzsák situation or does the same answer remains for now (recycled rumour)? {Ed002's Note - It seems recycled to me and, at this time, there is nothing to persuade me otherwise.}

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04 Jul 2013 20:01:52
hi eds, please could you explain how the fee for andy carroll works i.e how much we sold him for and if any add ons, and do we get all money up front. also a friend of mine said Liverpool are still owed 17 million from Chelsea for torres, is this true and would they possible want to sell him back to Liverpool or is that complete nonsense. as I don't think he would want to come back. thanks for all you time in reply to all message people send in.

Will knotty ash {Ed002's Note - I don't want to get in to the money and nothing is owed on Torres.}

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04 Jul 2013 19:35:06
Sell Suarez, bring in MK and Papadopolous! Simples! This transfer carry on is easy eh! Rab x

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04 Jul 2013 19:34:58
Hi eds a simple question.
As Sergei Palkin said do you believe that till now Liverpool have not made an official approach for Mkhitaryan. {Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation ad nauseum. Liverpool know what needs to be done.}

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04 Jul 2013 19:31:19
we bought 2 attacking players and toure to replace carra. now we seem to interested in micky and hope he is the player we need, but I believe if we would spend the money on a worldclass cb next to agger our chances next year would increase. for some reason we spend the big money on attackers, we should spend big on our defence, football has changed all teams no how to defend scoring goals s the hard bit, we need to make sure that its hard to score against us. we need a kompany/chielini/vidic kind of defender next to agger.that would garentee us top 4 malta

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What's wrong with Toure?
Proven quality.
Was part of the invincibles team.
Won the league with City too.
Ya he's 32 but he still has the required skills.
Give him a chance, never let any of his previous teams down.

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Agree with malta here a top cb would be a major and decisive move

mayhem 1981

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Looked to be losing it a bit the last few seasons, hence not being a starter at City. Hence why some are worried.

Hope he gets back to his best for us.

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When you say Toure never let his team down. Youean apart from when he took diet pills

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04 Jul 2013 19:27:46
I'm liking the new search feature!

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04 Jul 2013 19:24:53
Haha you can't miss that search box now eds.

MIKEY

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I actually did miss it until I saw your post and went back looking for it! lol ant

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Oh dear ant. Haha
Maybe some flashing lights around it. or maybe that bespectacled bueaty off the old dating website advert should come back and sit beside it, you couldn't miss that beast could you. Lol

MIKEY

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04 Jul 2013 19:23:54
The only good thing I can think of about the away and third kits this year is that sales of the red one will be higher than normal. Lol
It's a shame I only buy 1 shirt a year and it's the one that looks the smartest.
Looks like I'm not exactly spoiled for choice this year, it's a shame the red one looks so much like last years because that's what I got last year. Fancied a nice smart away one this year.
I'm not going to get a name as I was stuck with a torres one for 6 months last time I got a name. But if I did I would go for "coutinho".

MIKEY {Ed002's Note - Montpellier have a nice cheerful new kit - why not go for one of those. Dagenham and Redbridge's new kit is mainly red if you are that fussy.}

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That's a bit naff as well ed. Lol

MIKEY

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How about a Retro Kit? Try Toffs.

Richards

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The new genoa kit is worth a look, comes in a nice pringles tin as well.

MIKEY

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04 Jul 2013 18:47:01
Ed001 have you seen Andre Wisdom recently? I seen him today in training and he is a monster, I think he is about 6.4' Me and the mate think he could be a real option for partnering Agger nect season if he keeps his head down. Has everything and has Great great presence'

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Good post mate.
He's 6'1" and still only 20.
Still growing.
I've always said he's a future LFC centre half.
The Juicer

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He reminds me of richards, quick strong powerfull. Long way to go though.

billynwa

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If he keeps on improving, he will be massive for LFC for years to come .
redforever

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I think you may be looking at Ngoo in the training pictures.

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I'm a big fan of wisdom. Got a way to go like you say but has a lot of time to get there.
He's got to battle it out with Kelly though for the chance as right back and centre back cover. But he has every chance of being an undroppable first teamer within 2-3 years.

MIKEY

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04 Jul 2013 17:42:05
Suarez to Arsenal rumours in words of Jim Royle-my apse!
Why?-ENGLISH press hounding him is why he wants to move he said! Also Arsenal have to qualify for Champs Leauge!

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04 Jul 2013 18:22:23
Hey Ed with dortmud after signing that guy from aubameyang would that be them out of the race for MK? {Ed002's Note - Unrelated.}

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04 Jul 2013 18:09:18
Just seen the new 3rd kit for 1st time. It won't make me popular but I've got to admit I kinda like it - it's certainly different!

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Lol - your guilty pleasure! Mines jedward :D

Anon

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Ha ha I like all three! Specially the second one, its not a fashion parade ffs, some of the 1st world moaning on here sometimes

billynwa

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Not sure why you think it's ok to go public with such a bizarre fetish, Si B. maybe you should keep that sort of thing private?

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Jedward? dude seriously wtf?

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04 Jul 2013 18:05:41
T-9 days until pre-season kicks off lads, it's nearly here, FINALLY! It'll be great to see how the new signings are integrating into the team after only a few weeks. Who do we reckon is going to be a noticeably good addition? I'm going to bet Aspas.

JFT 96

JP

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If I was a betting man, I would bet on Coutinho winning Young Player of the year award.

The real AG

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Yeah AG I've not seen the fans take to a player so quickly like they have to Coutinho in ages. He was just brilliant. The fact he seems like a really humble young lad who just hadn't been given the chance to shine makes it even better. Fingers crossed he replicates his early form as it was great to watch.

JFT 96

JP

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Na bale has young player of the year wrapped up until he's 30, even if he signs for madrid

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04 Jul 2013 17:51:28
Hi all,
I recently posted advocating the need to bring in an eventual successor to Stevie G and received tons of negative replies. I think I was misunderstood. I'm old school but can still appreciate the benefits the slight skillful players such as Coutinho bring but I believe everyone needs a dominant, powerful force in cm. Stevie has adapted his game now and can no longer fulfill that role and while Jordan continues to improve an impress I just can't see him running a game in the Stevie G, Mcmahon, Souness mould. Anyone agree?

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The thing that gets me about post of this type, they actually fail to mention the parts that Case, Kennady and Mcdermot played in Souness dominating play.Mcmahon had Whelan Molby Houghton.Gerrard had Didi, Masch, Alonso. The midfield his not won by one individual. You need a team of players who each can bring something to the table, so to speak.

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Its a moot point imo because there aren't many Stevie G's out there to try replace him with. But I get the OP's point.

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Henderson maybe won't although i'd like him to but defintly aplayer of his mould is the corner stone of a good midfield

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04 Jul 2013 17:39:09
The mystery of Efc's scroll vanishing off kit coat of arms has been solved.Due to the two clubs being inseparable indeed almost one and the same-Man u have announced they'll be displaying the Latin motto on their kits this coming season

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04 Jul 2013 17:35:13
Hi eds great site. Not transfer related but I can't recall which one of you does the YouTube videos YRCHD and all the other channels. I would just like to say keep them up they are exceptional!

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04 Jul 2013 17:28:57
Hi eds, Daily Mail reporting Suarez to Arsenal? William Hill have suspended bets. Is this a smokescreen for another bid. Have you heard anything.
Cheers

Lavs {Ed019's Note - It's rubbish}

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Oh no the infamous "smoke screen" returns

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04 Jul 2013 15:47:12
Any update on Sergi Canos Eds? Have we signed him on pro fors yet? We signed up two others today. Thanks Carlo {Ed002's Note - He is too young to sign pro forms.}

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04 Jul 2013 23:00:35
Updates on Sergio Canos? Is he still being uploaded? Takes 2 seconds on my computer.

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04 Jul 2013 16:56:24
Eds, is there a possibility that the likes of Ibe, Suso, Lloyd Jones, McLaughlin, Yesil, Morgan, Robinson, Flanagan and Coady will go out on loan. Obviously not all of them, but I can't see all of them breaking into the first team and a full season lower down would do them the world of good! {Ed002's Note - Not Ibe or Lloyd Jones but perhaps someone will.}

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Lol Greggers - that one made me chuckle!

Swallybean

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04 Jul 2013 16:48:33
I just don't understand why Suarez couldn't be honest with the fans and say the real reason he wants out. I mean if he had just come out and said I won't be seen dead in those 2nd and 3rd kits I think everyone would have fully understood where he was coming from.

Cheers
Greggers

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Oh man, Good one! Haven't heard that one before eh

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That one is so old its almost come back around the whole way to being funny again. almost.people should just look at the crown paint kits with the ball strangler shorts then judge

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04 Jul 2013 16:41:19
Evening all and Eds, has anything been mentioned about Loic Remy? Pretty decent player on his day and also maybe be on cheap. Fits our bill with him being young and quick. Anything would be great, thanks {Ed002's Note - Liverpool has no interest in him and have purchased Aspas.}

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In your opinion who's better aspas or remy {Ed002's Note - Measured how? I have explained there is no interest in Remy and I have explained I have been told that Aspas could turn out to be very good. I appreciate that many of the fans want to do nothing but trash the incoming players - the same happened with Sturridge. Actually we will soon be opening an online store where you can by effigies of Liverpool owners, management, players and prospective players. You can then make the pilgrimage to Anfield where there will be ritual burnings at half time. We will also be selling some very high-end voodoo dolls with a set of silver-plated pins thrown in for good measure. If you buy the doll with the humongous ass, you know you have a Brendan Rodgers doll.}}

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Brilliant ed, well said, these are the same people who will be saying "Told you he was going to be brilliant" when they are.

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Haha will there be a waro doll ed? That could make you enough to buy a nice house in the hills and you can finally hang up your keyboard.

MIKEY

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Good one MIKEY like it.

Waro

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That made me chuckle mikey lol. give waro a break lad he is just expressing himself.

Fatboy

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Just to be fair to waro then, maybe there should be F$G dolls made just for him.

MIKEY

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MIKEY, you're on fire!

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04 Jul 2013 16:24:32
Suarez is missing for the first 6 games so we may as well cash in and who knows what he may do next season.
Coutinho will get better and sturridge seems a natural finisher so rather than being a one man show we need to get back to playing as a team.

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I don't like what Suarez has done to tarnish the clubs reputation and I have been convinced for 6 months he'd move on. However, if things do not pan out for him I hold no malice towards him because all I care about is Liverpool competing for title, trophies and top 4. If he stays we have a better chance and if he goes next summer and leaves with us in the top 4 then the process of replacing him is easier. I'm quite relaxed about it all.

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04 Jul 2013 16:15:11
Hi Eds & Reds,

I was wondering do you know if we had any interest in Flamini of AC Milan, would provide good cover for Lucas, style of play would suit him, has plenty of experience.

Just in relation to left back cover, do u think Downing and Robinson will be used more as cover, given the number of attacking options we now have?

Thanks in advance {Ed002's Note - I don't see Flamini moving to Liverpool to sit on the bench.}

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We have cover in toure and coady .ant

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04 Jul 2013 16:08:02
Does anyone else think that Rodgers could target a player like Bojan Krkic in the same way he did with Coutinho? Teenage prodigies who have somewhat lost their way at their respective massive clubs. Bojan like Coutinho has all the natural talent a player could have and perhaps Rodgers could get that out of him in a playing system that would suit the player? I know he had unsuccesful stints at Roma and Milan but did their style of play and Serie A really suit a player like Bojan? Coutinho wasn't impressive in Serie A. Furthermore these guys are constantly maturing and improving with age. I think Barca would accept a fee similar to that of Coutinho's. What do ye think? Sergio Canales is another I think we could be looking at.
The Gooch {Ed002's Note - Bojan Krkic has been sold back to Barcelona. Canales is not going to be moving to Liverpool this summer.}

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So is he in their plans or was that what was always going to happen? Wasn't he always going to be bought back by them even when he went to Roma? Would Barca still not be tempted to sell this Summer?
The Gooch {Ed002's Note - It is possible and there are clubs looking for a loan. Liverpool are not in the mix.}

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04 Jul 2013 15:47:12
Any update on Sergi Canos Eds? Have we signed him on pro fors yet? We signed up two others today. Thanks Carlo {Ed002's Note - He is not old enough to sign pro forms.}

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04 Jul 2013 15:45:44
Tied up some deals today, Jones has signed pro forms 4 year deal and Burnley teen keeper Ryan Fulton. Impressed at next gen games signed pro form 3yr contract. Congrats and welcolme to Anfield
Carlo

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04 Jul 2013 19:42:55
Lloyd Jones & Daniel Trickett Smith
Fulton was released.

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I think it was Belford who was released, Fulton signed a pro contract.

The real AG

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04 Jul 2013 23:05:51
You think? You think?
That's outrageous. If I knew that it has come to this I would have started thinking for myself.

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04 Jul 2013 13:43:04
Eds I can't seem to find the search function. Has it been removed?

-Jack the lad-

{Ed033's Note - It's being put back

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They had to take it down and clean out the dust from lack of use by some.

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04 Jul 2013 16:24:05
You could always just use Ctrl + FSG on your keyboard

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04 Jul 2013 13:30:44
What do you know of Suarez to Arsenal? It's a funny one!

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He will either end up at Bayern Munich or Real Madrid if not then he will stay at Liverpool, I don't see him going to another epl team, nor do I see him going to France as Monaco have Falcao and PSG want Cavani, I just hope we get £40M minimum for him as he is defiantly worth it and more.

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Ill sum it up.

Real Madrid are trying to sign him for a bargin 40m.

Suarez says he wants out because of British press.

Arsenal linked with Jovetic, Villa, Higuin. Transfer "close"

Suarez linked with 25m move to Arsenal one bookmaker suspends bets, others rake them in. Ridiculas. on the same day Arsenal reveal a real target, Gareth Barry. Place bets on it.

BKP

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04 Jul 2013 13:21:48
Hey eds, just curious, if MK handed in a transfer request would he be able to force a move through to a club of his choosing for maybe less money than what Shakhtar want for him? {Ed002's Note - If Suarez handed in a transfer request would Liverpool sell him to Real Madrid for £10M?}

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Correct me if i'm wrong but if a player hands in a transfer request it just waves his right to a pay off/signing on fee I think? {Ed002's Note - It stops the 5% payment that he would get under the regs.}

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04 Jul 2013 13:01:47
Good afternoon Ed I'm sorry to bring up Suarez but I've just one question, if for whatever reason, a move to Real does not happen do you see him staying or moving elsewhere. {Ed002's Note - There is interest from a number of clubs Chris, and I think he has done enough to make it clear to everyone he wants out of Liverpool and be playing in a Champions League side. Also clear is the need to protect £2.xM or whatever that he will get if he does not request a transfer - hence the back tracking.}

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So not only has Suarez disgraced our club with his antics! He says he wants to leave! He also wants us to pay him millions to leave as well. Great

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Ed,
Just for interest sake - does a player joining another club also get a signing on fee, in addition to his 5% for going from the previous club?
The Juicer {Ed002's Note - He can get whatever he can negotiate for joining, relocation etc..}

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Sure wish I was a professional footballer. treated like royalty

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04 Jul 2013 12:59:20
I don't believe that HM is being signed as suarez replacement, I think if suarez goes (lets hope he stays) then we will be in for another top striker as his replacement i.e. muriel, benteke, sanchez. what's your thoughts Eds please?

BOBRed {Ed002's Note - Don't hold your breath just yet.}

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04 Jul 2013 14:26:54
do the rest of you not find it strange that Suarez is not the face of the new Third Kit advertised, previously he used to be all over the LFC homepage, suddenly he is a no show on our website.
something doesn't seem right with LFC and Suarez

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Is this a joke?

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You need to look a bit harder before you call Jonathon Creek, he is on the slide show of photo's!

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He has been busy with all the modelling for Armani and Boss LOL

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04 Jul 2013 14:14:19
Liverpool have rejected a bid from PSG for Martin skurtle! {Ed019's Note - Who?}

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He was the 5th teenage mutant ninja skurtle.

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04 Jul 2013 14:12:19
Really don't see these Suarez to arsenal rumours having much legs. Firstly I don't see them paying the money for him then the London lifestyle would not suit someone who claims he wants to be left alone and his family are not settled with the media. Plus I honestly believe Liverpool as a team are not far behind being as good as if not better than arsenal . We will see

Davylivercabs

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04 Jul 2013 13:51:08
Is Suarez going to arsenal? His reason for leaving was English media etc? so why would he choose arsenal? doesn't make sense to me. {Ed019's Note - It's rubbish created to ell papers to gullible arsenal fans}

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04 Jul 2013 12:49:48
Hey eds, what clubs do have an interest in modric. I think he's exactly the type of player we need for our system and style, technically excellent and great tactical knowledge and understanding. If there is a tiny chance he could come I would want the club to do all they can. Also eds what are your thoughts on modric, very interested to know. Thx guys great work

Redmen448 {Ed002's Note - I don't think there is any chance at all - Liverpool has shown no interest and I don't see that the money will be available to buy him.}

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04 Jul 2013 12:32:23
Find it interesting how lfctv use Suarez to advertise the pre-season tour.

Number7

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04 Jul 2013 12:20:44
Hi Eds,

Are Liverpool interested in HM even if Suarez stays? Or does it mean that's Suarez is leaving?

In other words will LFC re-invest the Suarez money for another attacking player or this is it?

PKMLFC {Ed002's Note - Done to death.}

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04 Jul 2013 13:20:52
How come Suarez is been valued at 25m in the media after a so called move to Arsenal has been touted? Bale is seemingly valued at 85m, it just doesn't make sense does it, where do these assessments come from? Suarez is at least at the same level if not superior. Alright he has had his controversies, but can they really account for a 60m difference?

Kiddo

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They can value him all they like. Makes absolutely no difference.

Its Liverpool's value that counts and I'm very very confident its quite a bit more than 25 million pounds.

Davey Sulls

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Totally agree kiddo. No way is Bale 3 times better than Suarez. I do believe the British media don't like Liverpool.

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Personally I think he is worth 65 millon squids, he is one of the best players I have ever seen. I am sick and tired of Liverpool getting the short stick on transfers, why don't we take charge and control of the negotiations for once and get the money we need and deserve.

Anonymous woolback

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Not one for picking up on comments, but what did we get for the girly spaniard??


MikeyD

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04 Jul 2013 13:14:29
Question for waro if he's still around?
Are you telling me you prefered it when Hicks&Gillette were running things?
I doubt it!

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Give it up Gazz. Waro has an extremely pessimistic view of Liverpool's current situation and nothing is going to change that for him. He's fairly headstrong about it. Its his opinion and he's rightfully entitled to it.

I'm with you though. Think FSG are backing the club to the hills and am very pleased with them.

I believe everybody at the club is doing their albsolute best to move the club forward. It will be a few years yet before we're back to where we need to be, but for the first season in a while, we look to be moving in the right direction while also playing eye catching football .

If this transfer season goes well then we can all look forward to more improvement next season.


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04 Jul 2013 13:04:55
Can we please stop bashing Jonjo now! i'm of the opinion that we got a super price for him as he will won't go on and become a force in the game. He was a cheeky chappie and full of youthfull exuberance with little footballing skills but that does not mean we should annihilate him especially after his classy tweet when he signed for the swans. Good luck jonjo in Wales you nutter

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04 jul 2013 13:04:51
did u see the shape of them socks holy fu-k

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04 Jul 2013 13:03:22
Third kit unveiled. Jesus wept.

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04 Jul 2013 16:46:28
I like it, much better than the away kit.

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04 Jul 2013 12:12:35
It's just after 12 noon.
Guess that means "Red Lee" and the like should be just waking up now and logging on to start criticizing every post they can find without giving any direct, fair, unbiased & readable, analysis themselves.
Why don't they have opinions of their own we wonder?!
Why do they criticize other people's opinions, claims, analysis etc?!
Keyboard warrior?!
No.
Keyboard Phantom?!
Yeeesss.

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04 Jul 2013 11:55:11
Suarez 7/4 to sign for Arsenal in from 20/1 overnight, surely not?

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04 Jul 2013 11:41:46
To our fellow American Reds - A very happy 4th of July!

btw - the third kit? euuughh! totally don't work

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Whats with the socks? 1 black 1 purple??

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I think it's a marketing ploy. They make their designs truly eye catching, so that everyone will definitely know about Warrior Sports. If they just made a boring, same ol' design, no one will take notice of them, even though they might be happy with their design.

It's easier to catch the eye with the unusual than with the usual.

The real AG

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Beers, BBQ, and fireworks. A proper American holiday :)

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04 Jul 2013 11:32:39
hI eDS,

Anyone read this stupid story in the press that certain bookies have stopped taken bets on Suarez going to the Gooners! Has to be the worst rumour ever has it not?!?

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I'd not discount it tbh, I very much doubt Lpool would sell to an English club, much less a team we are competing with.

But Bookmakers are not stupid when it comes to losing money either.

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04 Jul 2013 11:04:06
Hi Edds

Listerning to the cheif editor from the echo saying we have had no offers for suarez and that Liverpool expect him to stay or at the very least accept 45mill. He also said that micky should be signing for Liverpool he wants us and we want him - just complicated with owners etc.

Just need to sort out a CB keep suarez and get micky then next season should be brilliant!

If suarez does go expect a top shirt selling striker to come in, Liverpool want four strikers.

Mystic Greg {Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath about any "top shirt selling" strikers.}

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Of course, we could just be signing the guy who sells shirts outside the ground on match days

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Would you not think that if suarez goes aspas would then replace him as a striker then meaning we would need another winger? Ince, Sanchez?

Mytsic Greg {Ed002's Note - You seem to be grasping at straws about the likes of Sanchez.}

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Who's the unamed funny guy?! I know this is banter but fans have got to get their thoughts across without some "fan" making a mockery out of a post.

Mystic Greg

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04 Jul 2013 12:04:24
Why do people get "butthurt" so easily?
As you say it's banter and some people doesn't take it so seriously like some others.
I think it's better with some funny guys around here. better than Political Fsg nonsense and made up rumours and player and manager bashing.

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It didn't need the so called "funny guy" to make a mockery out of it. U need help mystic greg your posts are just a waste of the eds time.

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Why won't we be buying any big name striker if Suarez leaves? and why the negativity about it?. Everyones entitled to their opinion, I think they'll have to do something if Suarez leaves, I don't think he'll leave himself short up front like last year, just my opinion

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Yeh mystic greg you get BUTTHURT so easily. I bet your one of thos fans that thinks torres and alonso are guna come back aswell pfffffffffft rookie.



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04 Jul 2013 10:44:31
What has happen to my loving Liverpool football surpporters everything seem to citersizing player's and not give them a chance or hope at the club BR is doing a great job! It sounds like you all want to plant the seed and next day eat the fruit

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04 Jul 2013 10:31:13
" IF BR AND FSG sell SUAREZ to arsanel, that will be the top 4 spots sorted before we kick a ball.
their is no doubt that Arsenal are the weak link in last years CL spots, and to sell our best player to them, is a mistake! "

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To the guy who posted the above.
How is this possible, He never got us there. So how would he guarantee Arsenal there.

Also Wenger won't a) Buy a player over 20mill and b) buy one over 12 years old so i'd say were ok.

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Cause arsenal and the teams above are far better

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Pretty Higuain's over 20m, and that he's over than 12. but still there's no chance Arsenal will sign Suarez, the whole point of his excuses are thathe wants to leave England.

RedKopite

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I agree the story is a non starter but if we did sell suarez to them it would be handing over the last top 4 place on a platter, he if a world class player and would improve arsenal is they signed him. But thankfully they won't get him.

Lil Red

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Arsenal have a new philosophy in spending this year. Plus the fact they haven't spent in the last 12 and still got in top 4 shows they are a class act.

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Class act? Ha ha ha
The class acts who never win anything.
At least we win titles.
You're a gooner and and if you believe such complete nonsense I feel really bad for you.
Suarez will never play for the "class acts"
LOL

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04 Jul 2013 10:30:01
suarez staying unless a tr is handed in and a bid of £45m+ is offered.Liverpool to stand firm on this!

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Ha-this is like saying that it won't rain unless you see clouds and then feel water falling from the sky

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04 Jul 2013 10:12:26
Madrid love a flirt in the media, agreed? They virtually seduce a player before even making a bid, the arrogance and cheek of it is infuriating so why don't Liverpool forget for now bout HM and tap up Modric agent and see if he fancies a move back?
Then go to Madrid and say let's forget the insult of callejon and u give us Modric and 10 million or piss off basically.
Prendergel {Ed002's Note - It is not possible to tap up an agent. Callejon has no interest in Liverpool and is moving elsewhere. Liverpool has not shown any interest in Modric, but he could be available.}

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But would he want to go to Liverpool ed! I somehow doubt it {Ed002's Note - I have no idea.}

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What clubs to your knowledge are interested in modric eds? I think that if there's even a one percent chance he would want to leave Madrid for us then we should attempt it. He is the perfect player for our system IMO, cm/cam, graceful on the ball, elegant passer and tactically astute. His decision making at the correct time is exemplary, your thoughts eds? Thx in advance and fantastic work on the site.
Aidy in ireland {Ed002's Note - Modric is someone that Madrid would offer up in part exchange deals or if anyone were interested in a sale. I don't see any chance of interest from Liverpool nor the money being available to buy him.}

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Ed you think Modric would consider LFC? {Ed002's Note - I have no idea - but I don't see any chance of a move to Liverpool for him.}

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To the fellow saying we're going to finish 6th before the seasons started, get off the site mate people don't come here for your negativity.
oxford red

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04 Jul 2013 09:49:31
Paulinho to Spurs! Higuian to Arsenal! At the moment Liverpool have only signed Aspas that will make a difference. Man City have made a great signing in Navas. Fernandinho is ok too. Man United and Chelsea haven't brought anyone in. Mourinho is a big addition though while Man United have lost Fergie so that will hurt them. I can really see it being a tighter league this year and quite surprising. At the moment I see this with new additions but it will obviously change:

1. Man City
2. Chelsea
3. Arsenal
4. Man United
5. Spurs
6. Liverpool

What do you think? {Ed002's Note - Chelsea have brought Schurrle and Van Ginkel in for the coming season.}

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I think a big factor could be how well these teams, us included, start the season. Our opening fixtures are mostly winnable and if we can get a good start, then hopefully, the momentum from that will carry us on to the second half of the season. From there, it would be players stepping up and being counted I think.

I am very optimistic we can get CL next year.

The real AG

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04 jul 2013 10:28:28
i think you better throw you crystal ball in the trash. because that not how football works.

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As we saw last season the first team could match everyone in the league. what happened was when we tried to rotate we didn't have enough quality to bring in against the so called lower teams and so our performance levels dropped. I believe that BR has adressed this with the new signings especially Aspas. if we get HM and a string CB most likely to replace Skrtel then I think we stand a good chance at top 4 this year

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Forgot about Schurlle! He's a great signing for them plus it's obvious there looking for a superstar striker.

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04 Jul 2013 10:44:42
I personally think Chelsea will win this season

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One of the most positive posts in months well done. I'm sure we were in the top 3 for are second half of the season performances? No need for negativity before a ball has even been kicked!

Ynw

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04 Jul 2013 10:59:12
Transfer window shut then?

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MU will win the league with Chelsea a close second. Liverpool will finish 6th at best with Suarez & MK. Without Suarez & MK 8th-10th.

Don't lash out for my honesty ;)

Disney!

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04 Jul 2013 11:48:25
Honesty? Ha ha ha
Honestly that's called delusions and dreams of a manc,
New book out in stores now.

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I agree with the post. It looks bleak for us reds unless we grow some balls and pull our finger out! DBol

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Is this a LIVERPOOL site or what get a grip fellows


Muggitzo

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Do not write LFC off in anyway shape or form for this coming season, IF they bring in who they are after, and get rid of who they do not want.
Then I for one think if the new players gel with the existing team then we will be a force and a very good teamand will compete all season long.

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Sidney, no one on this page cares what you think, so you can keep your mancunian opinions to yaself, You should get down the bookies and put your money where your mouth is if your that confident that that's the best well place, once youve got your bet, if you could take a picture and put it in the Sightings page for us all to look at? Just so we can then have a goo dlaugh throughout the season etc.

My opinion is that maybe you should start worrying more about your own team! I thinks you are in for a few barren years yourself, again though that just my opinion! Gota love sharing opinions :)
Scouserjohnny

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04 Jul 2013 13:09:58
the truth is disney could be right especially if we don't do much with that defence toure but lose carra is not much of a change, another cb left back striker especially if suarez leaves, muriel would be my first choice as well as cb papa left back baines, I know we have no chance but that's who I think we should go for and not to forget mk hit, in my own head I think its because I have read that we r wrapping up the deal agreed fee with shaktar that many times I think we have signed him already.Tommy Irish Red

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Disney, it's fantasy, not honesty.

The real AG

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Honesty? A poor attempt at winding up I think. nevertheless I wonder how Disney will feel when Moyes has MU playing his own "special" brand of football. at least you won't need to replace the aged midfielders who will be almost redundant, and the centre of Old trafford pitch will never cut up again! I think you may well finish 6th. perhaps Pluto and Mickey can cheer you up .

For the record, Chelsea are my tip for the League.

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Coutinho and sturridge were bought for this season!
5 gold stars

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United won't win it, not this year anyway, City and Chelsea will be the top two. They already had superior squads to United last year, but in both cases their manager situations were their undoing. But both clubs have addressed that now and have appointed top quality managers to work with squads. Also both have already added more depth to their squads and I'm pretty sure there is even more to come.

Unlike last season United can't rely on having the best manager anymore to pull it out of the bag for them. Last term you had the best manger but not the best squad of players. This season you will have neither! Even if Fergie was still at United he would struggle to contain Mourinho and Pellegrini with the players they have at their disposal. You can't believe Moyes will do any better, for if you do they that goes a long way to explaining your nickname.

As for Liverpool we just have to accept we are a work in progress and get on with it.

Just been honest too, don't take it any other way.

Kiddo

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04 Jul 2013 14:18:17
You are right Disney and it will happen only in Disneyland

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We go through this every summer. I say you will finish 6th-8th and you finish 6th-8th. I am not trying to wind you up, it's my honest opinion. You will finish 6th at best and that's only if Suarez stays. We know that isn't going to happen so I think 7th-8th is the best you can hope for. MU will be stronger next season, as will Chelsea & City. We finished top this season and we are favourites to do the same next season. Trust me when I say it's not me being delusional. 4th place for Liverpool will not be achievable. Spurs will retain Bale and will make some very shrewd signings including Paulinho and perhaps Villa. Arsenal will sign Higuain. These sides will be stronger next season, Liverpool will not be. Remember, you finished 7th with Suarez, Carragher etc.

Disney!

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It's your opinion Disney. It doesn't mean it will happen. Manchester United stronger this season? Hahah! That's a right laugh! By mid season, your supporters will be moaning about Moyes, "trust me" on this one.

The real AG

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AG, we have two weak areas. Central midfield & LB. If we can sign Thiago & Baines we will be stronger.

Disney!

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Disney, I think Utd will finish 3rd next season with Chelsea & City duking it out (Chelsea getting the nod from me). I don't have strong feelings on this being a sure thing so you won't see me posting this on their pages. I do have strong feelings on my own team though and IF we were to keep Suarez then I would definitely see us finishing in top 4.

I'm not going to argue with you on Utd but I'll ask you to justify your point on us finishing 7-8th at best if we lose Suarez - apart from the top 5 who could possibly finish ahead of us? Everton will go backwards and Southampton aren't quite there yet. Who could push us out to 10th spot as you say? Can you back up what you're saying?

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I was just pointing out that Moyes is your Manager, I mean if that isn't a weak area, I don't know what is!

Also, Thiago cannot play as a CM in a 2 man midfield, not with Carrick as the other CM anyway. With Shrek, Welbeck or Kagawa being used as the 2nd striker, Thiago will not be played in a 2 man midfield by Moyes. He plays 3 midfielders and usually 2 defensive ones.

Baines will be a good signing I agree. But the overall effect of having Moyes as your manager will bring your team down a level atleast.

The real AG

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I think you're generally pretty reasonable Disney, but not sure about this one. For me, Liverpool is already stronger with the additions of Mignolet, Aspas, Alberto, and I personally think Toure is at least the equivalent of Carragher in terms of footballing ability. Suarez (potentially) leaving is a bit of a blow, but it's not like we were challenging for top 4 with him and I honestly don't see him not being in the squad as a huge blow (results seemed to show this last season).

As for United, you'll do well but I don't see you winning the league this year. I think a bigger loss to you all than SAF is losing the coaching staff he had in place and, in my opinion, will cause a problem for you so I see you in about 3rd.

Guess we'll see though, eh?

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You haven't signed Thiago or Baines yet, you may end up with neither especially Thiago, so until then you are just speculating and proposing a non existent line up to try justify yourself. Give it a rest Disney, your a fantasist.

Besides Chelsea and City will still be better, you also have conveniently ignored Moyes unproven abilities when it comes to actually ever winning any trophies of any consequence at all.


Cort

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Disney how do you explain us being around the 3rd, forth best team in the premiership after January? Not being funny but man united got very very lucky to win and draw some of the games they did.

I think we have made some exceptional exciting signings I think Micky and a quality cb we will shock everyone.

And in my honest opinion man united will slip right down and the pressure will be on.

London red

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AG

If Moyes is such a weak link how did he get Everton to finish above Lfc last season? I assume you think they have a far superior squad, either that or you think BR is even worse?

HB

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Cort, hence the reason I said "If we can sign Thiago & Baines"

Can I ask what Brendon Rodgers has ever won? Just saying.

Disney!

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London, if "Mickey" is that good, then why are only you and Dortmund interested in him? Why not any of the big clubs? I think he is a good player, but not great. He is certainly not an improvement on Suarez.

Disney!

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London red

I think I can answer your question to Disney - a season is 38 games long so you need to be consistent over the whole season. Lfc fans every summer seem to pick out their best period from the previous season and assume they can do that consistently over the next whole season, yet it rarely pans out that way.

Glad to be of help.

HB

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04 Jul 2013 21:15:36
Haha BR has been in charge 1 year.
Moyes 11 years.
So you can ask that BS question in 10 years time.
Yes Everton had a better squad, we played with 17 & 18 years olds half the season.
And stop predicting nonsense. No one knows what will happen. And if you do have a crystal ball please keep the fantasy predictions for yourself.

In BR we trust

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London, if we played like we did from August to May, we would have won the league ;)

Disney!

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HB

How many years has Moyes had to get them to start finishing above us?

Moyes is a big risk for Utd imo. Will you will give him as long as he had at Everton to win a trophy?

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"Haha BR has been in charge 1 year.
Moyes 11 years.
So you can ask that BS question in 10 years time."

The OP was saying Moyes is a bad appointment on the basis that he hasn't won nothing. BR hadn't won anything and was appointed by Liverpool. So does that make him a bad appointment?

Disney!

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If Moyes doesn't win the league this season, it will be a step down for UTD. The chances of Moyes, who hasn't won a trophy in 11 years at Everton, who he knew like the back of his hand, is pretty much close to zilch.

When the trophy doesn't come the first year, many will say, don't panic, it was a "transition year". The pressure builds up from the second year and if you don't win anything the second year, Moyes is out.

You lads are building yourself up for a big fall ;P)

The real AG

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Disney, you seem to have conveniently missed my post - "I'll ask you to justify your point on us finishing 7-8th at best if we lose Suarez - apart from the top 5 who could possibly finish ahead of us? Everton will go backwards and Southampton aren't quite there yet. Who could push us out to 10th spot as you say? Can you back up what you're saying?"

Also from your more recent posts did you notice that there's this competition each year for the best teams in Europe (yes I do know we have not been in it in years) and Dortmund got to the final - they're not a big team no? Won the league 2 of the last 3 years too. You are so biased it's crazy.

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Haha, moyes is 50 years older isn't he.

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Sean, Dortmund are not classed as one of the big clubs in Europe. They will spend well as they have received a lot of cash through sales, but they are not classed as one of the big clubs so to speak. I am talking about RM, Barcelona, BM, etc etc. That being said they are a bigger club that Liverpool.

I think both Manchester clubs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs will all finish above you. That's obvious I am sure you'd agree? Other club to beware of for Liverpool will be Swansea, Newcastle, WBA, Everton, Southampton if they can get the players that they want.

I think this is the group Liverpool will be challenging, not the top six sadly.

Disney!

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04 Jul 2013 09:25:33
Seriously come on that's the 4/5th post of mine that's been overlooked.

I've asked politely as to why, same response, nothing! Yet I see silly questions and comments posted.

Can you give me a heads up Eds? It's a bit irritating now.


Many thanks!

KOPBOY

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Couple of mines not getting through either (I'll be made a liar now though :P )

And people and Eds complain about the repetitive questions?

Surely they should be chalked off 1st?

Not a complaint by the way anybody, just an observation based on what KOPNOY said.

SR (StrabaneRed) {Ed002's Note - Actually I can see that you did have a couple of posts that somehow did not make it up. I didn't delete them and I cannot see why anyone else did.}

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04 Jul 2013 09:05:43
Suarez to Arsenal, already means a complete mockery of his reason to leave. UK Media.

But £25m? Where is this coming from I thought £40m was the price to just speak to him let alone LFC accepting?

Anyone know why £25m and not £50m? I understand we like to bend over when we sell players unlike anyother team. but really?
Carlo

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Don't think this story is true at all, why would Arsenal pay 40 million plus ( which they would have to) for Suarez when they could probably get Rooney for less than 30?

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04 Jul 2013 10:15:31
Omg, I can't actually believe people are so stupid.
Not only are they completely making fools out of themselves but criticize the club for some gibberish that will never happen.
Get a brain.

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You are the one one is believing this BS. No one else is, atleast no one who can think is anyway.

The real AG

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Read the echo who are normally bang on. Liverpool will only consider offers of over £45 million! Suarez will also have to hand in a transfer request too.

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No need for that really? I posted news. As unrealistic as it sounds ( I thought £35m for AC was a joke, how wrong was I). Bookies have suspended bets of this move. I'm no bookie and do not know how they opperate, but I'm confident they are happy to take mugs money. Can you, the all knowing, confirm why if I wanted to give the bookies £20 on Suarez to Arsenal they would say, no son you keep the money. Please enlighten. Can't quote names as you've not posted it. surprised.
Carlo

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This wasn't aimed at me I believe, but I'll give my opinion.

The bookies suspending bets etc seriously cannot be looked upon as a reason he will leave.

Remember last year when Ramirez was in a same situation with us? Or a few seasons a ago under Rafa, when bookies suspended bets on Villa and Silva to join LFC?

While there was clear interest in the players I mentioned, this time, it just looks like a very poorly made up story.

Also, when people see odds being slashed, they run to put bets on the deal, even though sometime, the deal won't happen and the Bookies happily take the money.

The real AG

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04 Jul 2013 08:59:27
London red, you can cherry pick players to suit your argument all you like, the Carroll transfer was down to the owners mismanagement, paying £35 mill for a player who most clubs wouldn't have gone above £12 mill for, it was a panic buy. For every Carroll there's an aguero a mata a van persie a silva. Pointless reply.

Waro

Okay well first off you generalised every player to be as good as their price tag. I'm guessing that's what "you get what you pay for means" therefore I can cherry pick any player I like as that still goes against your argument. I'm pretty sure you know there is more players then just Carroll who we have paid for that have not done great, therefore you argument is irrelevant as proved by the amount of over priced players that have not done great.

Secondly you go around in circles more times then a washing machine when it comes to FSG you continuously point fingers at them blaming them for not spending enough when actually they was paying 1 mil a day in losses to keep us going. I've seen Ed002 reply back to your abuse at them and your arrogant enough to ignore it then throw back an almost identical argument back in the next few days.

Yeah mate everyone entitled to their opinion and I respect that but when you start generalising and accusing our owners when it's not true that ain't opinion really.

London red

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London red I totally agree with you mate. Waro is great at contradicting himself. At least he makes me chuckle.

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No matter how clear you spell it out London red, Waro will not change his opinion. Even if LFC get TOP 4 next season, he will find something else to opine about, which the majority here won't like.

The real AG

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Thought this was the banter page, not the bitch page, most days I come on here people are arguing! Can't we just accept people have different views no matter how ridiculous they are at times

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Maybe he's a raging alcoholic and can't really help himself.

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04 Jul 2013 10:56:25
London red, abuse of ed's? Liverpool losing a £1 million a day? You couldn't make this stuff up. oh wait you just did!

Mighty Reds you have no opinions just snide digs, you just jump on a bandwagon to get people on side, strength in numbers for you is it? I have my views and don't look for others to back me up, your the worse kind of penguin lad.

Waro {Ed002's Note - I think it perfectly reasonable to assume "day" was an error and he meant "week", which as you are aware is correct.}

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Waro would moan if we won the league!. not enough points, play not stylish enough, didn't play on enough sunny days, blah blah moan whinge whine complain! YAWN people like him want the moon on a stick and will never be happy.
In Buck we trust!

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04 Jul 2013 11:13:30
Welcome ag, yet again the same posters all backing each other up, does it give you a warm glow ag knowing you have got your own sewing circle of quilts ready to jump in for each other, because none of you can do it on your own. There are a few words in Liverpool for people like you and mighty reds and quite a few others who will no doubt jump into this thread because they have seen there little boyfriends have jumped on the bandwagon, snides snitches ponces feel free to align yourself to which ever word suits you best. Bye bye ladies. F$G OUT!

Waro {Ed002's Note - So, if you get your wish and FSG were to decide to cash in and move on, how would you feel about institutional owners after a floatation on an Asian stock exchange? Perhaps a nice bank from Thailand would install someone like Martin Broughton as Chief Executive?}

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04 Jul 2013 11:22:34
Defending your paymasters again, tut tut tut. Oh sorry, I take that back, that may constitute abuse to the sensitve souls on here.

Waro {Ed002's Note - I remain astonished that you constantly refuse to answer the question. Obviously if it were to happen it would give you something else to whine about.}

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Without Waro, where would we get our daily chuckle!

Waro, mate, I see you as the Gene Hackman (of Enemy of the State vintage) of these boards!

Love it!

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Waro has his views and frankly he is the only voice of sanity on here.

So many of you people slate him because you want to self ingratiate yourselves with everyone else.

Ridiculous -sheep mentality - it's only because you had people stood up for the club and gave the true picture
that H & G were gotten rid of.


M {Ed001's Note - no it is not! That is utter nonsense, a complete and utter lie! H&G were got rid of because the club was on the verge of administration, nothing to do with anything else.}

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Waro pipe the h**k down. you're an embarrassing child.

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04 Jul 2013 12:49:43
Hah, black and white. Answer the damn question Waro!

Sick of your ill informed rubbish!

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Still ranting away there waro fella?

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M

That is the most clueless thing I have seen here for a long while!

You think H&G were good?!

The real AG

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Eds, I had a reply to Waro's latest reply, it didn't make it though. Any reason why? It wasn't abusive just an opinion.

The real AG {Ed002's Note - No idea man.}

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Waro you complain of other's backing each other up but then you've got your little apprentice M backing you up every time. If your going to make a statement at least get the facts right.

Lil Red

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04 Jul 2013 17:19:20
Lilly red, I don't think I have seen M ever comment on anything i've ever posted, so your chattin bubbles there lad, but nice one M for replying, but it's better if you and I conform like good little sheep because your the anti christ on this site if you dare to question anything relating to Liverpool, the conformists have there opinion and good luck to them, but when they try and force there views on people and collectively try and brow beat and bully people around to there way of thinking, that's when I bite back, because wether your a bully on here or a bully on the street, I actively get up in there grill and av it with them, because I don't tolarate bullys I deal with them.

Waro

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04 Jul 2013 19:06:05
Notice how he still avoided the question? Credibility dropping by the second Waro.
WelshBoyDave

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Lilly red, I don't think I have seen M ever comment on anything i've ever posted, so your chattin bubbles there lad, but nice one M for replying, but it's better if you and I conform like good little sheep because your the anti christ on this site if you dare to question anything relating to Liverpool, the conformists have there opinion and good luck to them, but when they try and force there views on people and collectively try and brow beat and bully people around to there way of thinking, that's when I bite back, because wether your a bully on here or a bully on the street, I actively get up in there grill and av it with them, because I don't tolarate bullys I deal with them.

Waro

, OK waroena, if I I chat bubbles you chat chat plain bullsh1t, as you can see name calling is plain stupid and childish, and as the ed rightly pointed out the fans protests didn't oust LFC, the threat of administration did, so kick your little lies while I kick my real facts. Waro you have your opinions and they differ from the majority of people here and that's ok but talking crap about the club isn't supporting it its just plain stupid. Its been proven before that FSG help keep the club afloat, do calling them paymasters is dumb. Also stop trying to act so tough I have beaten up 5 men in one go before but it dosen't relate to posts so I don't include that in my posts. Also M doesn't have to directly reply to your posts to back you up, just read a few of his posts and you will see they reflect the same crap you preach. The point of my reply earlier was to say that if your going to make a statement at least get the facts right.

Lil Red

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Lilly read your original reply " M backing me up every time " you said it, what can't speak can't lie, and Dave thanks for the compliment, in your opinion it's dropping, but thanks for acknowledging I have credibility in the first place!

What I don't understand is, why your all desperate for everyone to share your views about Liverpool, and if people don't agree with you you all lose the plot, if your all correct and where on our way to glory then why do you care what I Ozone M or anyone else thinks? Your all sure your right, so relax and do it in the knowledge that Liverpool are moving forward!

Lilly 5 men in one night? Ahem, you must have been walking like bricklayer in high heels after that night;)

Waro

p.s. What's the question I won't answer by the way?

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04 Jul 2013 08:05:00
What's All This With Suarez Being Linked With Arsenal?

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If suarez is unhappy with life / media in england he is unlikely to agree to join another English club. Tabloids!

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04 Jul 2013 08:00:55
Just a thought. with everyone saying suarez is going to real Madrid why don't Liverpool make the most of it and try for a cash plus player deal . hijack arsenals target 20 - 25m plus Higuain for suarez. sounds perfect to me and he's a very good finisher too {Ed002's Note - It is not going to happen.}

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I know it probably won't happen but it should. makes perfect sense .

See if we do end up selling suarez (which I hope we don't) then we're looking at 40 to 45. I assume only half of that will be reinvested in a striker and higuain seems to be a great option

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Higuain would have to WANT to come no us which is a big no as wants CL

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It is NONSENSE, not perfect sense.

The real AG

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Higuan would have to be interested in us first. he isn't as we don't have champions league football!
If he is going to move he will only want to move to a team playing in it!

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04 Jul 2013 07:51:18
Ok am I alone in thinking that 5m is terrible business for shelvey? Wtf are we doing? This reeks of ince x3. He's 21 and plays a position that takes maturity to grow into. As of winter this year he's an exciting England prospect now he's a 5m cast off? H**k that. Unless he falls off a bar stool and tears his ACL this year, he couldn't go for less than 5m next years. Unless of course dalglish and comolli team up again then well have a new English record signing. Why not loan him for a year and see how first team football suits him? Jesus, I'd take him over downing on the pitch any day and anyone who argues with that should take a look at how downing does nothing but loose possession with terrible passes and laughable crosses, and no sell on value to speak of. It's just infuriating!


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I'm not being funny mate but lay off Dalglish yeah he's a legend no matter what you believe he may have done. Show some respect.

As for the main basis of your post I do agree. We always seem to sell cheap. Even though we have made some kind of profit.

Alfie

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04 Jul 2013 09:53:34
Shelvy is Rubbish and to get £6 million for him is brilliant! He was for sale, big difference when you try to take a clubs best players vs their worst.
We will get £1 mill in bonuses.
Ince was part of the Charlie adam deal.
Shelvy will never increase so much in value you knob. He will never get skillful or pacey.
Fantastic ridence. Sick of rubbish players at our club.
Your post is infuriating. Utter tosh {Ed002's Note - Ince ran his contract down and went for youth compensation - unrelated to Adam. Interesting to still see so called "supporters" denigrating the Liverpool players still. At one time the Liverpool supporters had an excellent reputation - sadly there seems to be a new hate-filled element dragging everything and everyone down to their level.}

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Couldn't disagree with you more RedYonk.

Ince left for 1st team football, we put a contract to him he knew he'd have limited game time (if any) so he left - his decision.

I think the deal for Shelvey is ok but that's obviously going to divide fans somewhat so I respect the fact that you like him and are disappointed, fair enough. But to imagine Shelvey playing Right Wing, I'm not a fan of Downing's but my god that's ludicrous man, plain nuts!

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To the poster insulting others post I suggest before calling anyone a "knob" that you learn how to spell.

Then at least try not to post utter tosh as you call it. Ince was nothing to do with the Adam deal

Lastly you will notice other clubs selling lesser English talent for a lot more than 6m muppet.


To the poster going on about Dalglish and Comolli, i'll try explain this simply for you. Dalglish gives a list of players he wants, this will include other choices. He doesn't get involved with the fee whatsoever, So 35m fee is not his concern so why talk down about a Man who loves the club more than you ever will.

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04 Jul 2013 07:45:38
Liverpool should look to sign S.Given and D.Bent from Villa, Both for under 6M.

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Or not?

KiwiRed

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And what would we do with them? Given was a fantastic keeper he needs to move for 1st team football not our bench. Bent is a finisher who could be pretty good again for mid table club but he is useless in build up play so he wouldn't suit us. Yes he'd put the ball in the back of the net but I think it would be like playing with 10 men a lot of the time.

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And play Given as our LB and Bent as our DM?

The real AG

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04 Jul 2013 07:40:53
IF BR AND FSG sell SUAREZ to arsanel, that will be the top 4 spots sorted before we kick a ball.
their is no doubt that Arsenal are the weak link in last years CL spots, and to sell our best player to them, is a mistake!

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Jesus Christ it's rubbish! Do you believe everything you read?

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You are one gullible person if you believe BS OP.

The real AG

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Suso will get his chance with Downing Shelvey Assaidi Spearing all probably moving on. He will take it too! I think Eriksen should be pursued particularly at the price quoted!

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Post starts with "IF"!

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04 Jul 2013 07:33:42
Hey Eds, if this whole HM business goes South, do we have a solid alternative target? {Ed002's Note - I really don't know what would be the plan. Perhaps give Suso a chance?}

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04 Jul 2013 02:01:51
Hi ed's is it true that a deal could be wrapped up for Mkhitaryan in the coming week? Also is it true that suarez has agreed personal terms with Madrid. Also is there possibilities of sakho joining at anfield.

Cheers
Andrew Owens {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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04 Jul 2013 01:56:22
Hi ed's and fellow reds
Just a quick question regarding the 'transfer kitty' and agent fee's!
Now I know you don't like getting into the monetry side of things, but I'm intrigued to know whether the money set aside for transfers is purely to cover the cost of the fee paid to the club we are buying a player from, or if the agent fee's and other expenses paid out to complete any transfer are accounted for in any budget set. If they are taken from the transfer budget i'm guessing we've spent a hefty amount of the '£25m' supposedly made available by FSG for the summer, including recouping £20ish mil from sales so far.
The thought just popped into my head, whilst trying and failing to get some shut eye, thinking about how realistic the chances of spending £25m on HM without further sales having to help fund such a move.

YNWA
In Rodgers WE trust

RedChris {Ed002's Note - We have no interest in discussing money.}

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04 Jul 2013 01:56:04
ed's i'm hearing of my friends that Mkhitaryan please my spelling of his name is not even owned by shatkar he is owned by someoneelse please reply thank you
LFC-ULLAH {Ed002's Note - They are teasing you.}

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Your friend? Is your friend Artur Petrosyan?

The real AG

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04 Jul 2013 00:30:12
I was in the Ibiza Bar in Wigan tonight and actually met Jay Spearing. I offered him a drink, tried to get chatting to him, but he had none of it, stayed with his little group.

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We're you in drag again?

Fester

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04 Jul 2013 00:21:15
All transfer activities so far would, unfortunately, be not so important if we fail to sign Mkhitaryan. If he is the 'one' Brendon has been chasing for a while we had better sort out the personal terms before teams with CL turn players' head. We are not, for the moment, the Liverpool that was, so please Mr Rodgers and FSG, get your act together and put the finishing touches to the squad as I can't wait to watch us beat teams who spent 3 or 4 times the amount we spent. I hope to Goad anyway.

YNWA

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We were near the top of the form table since January. By the end of the season we were fourth (behind Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea).

We've improved the squad over what we had in May so it could easily be a top 4 side.

Why so negative?

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LFC have constantly been among the big spenders during transfer windows, so beating teams that 3/4 times as much as us would be hard as there probably won't be any, and what is it with every one about this Micky? To be honest until recently I'd never heard of him, but from reading what the eds have put and his profile sounds like a good addition to the team. But if the club have made their offer than that's it, I'm not going to go on about it, let's put it this way, there are quite a few people on here already writing off aspas and Alberto, deals done quickly and for good prices, because of their prices people have assumed not good enough, let's swap the prices around, if we had completed these signings for 3 times the amount people would be singing their praises, and if we hadn't signed mickey yet and the price was 7 million hardly any one on here would say a word.
The window only just opened, we have made some shrewd investments already, with the players that have left being replaced by hopefully more suitable players to our system, if we sign mickey for what our team deem a good price then great, if we don't we move on, it's obvious our scouts have been working overtime because not many people have heard of any of these players before now. FSG have backed Rodgers again with money, our team played well together towards the second half of last season, so let's trust the team to get who we need.
I'd be fine with stopping now with transfers, but if Suarez or skrtle leaves then replave them, other wise can we stop going on about players we hardly know off and the players we have bought already. Things are looking very good for our great team.


Lifelongred

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His personnel terms are one of the problems! He was eager to join spurs or dortmund but neither would give in to his rediculous demands! I believe he may still go back to one of those teams with reduced ideas of a his silly demands

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That is unwarranted. The recruitment team have done an excellent job so far getting in 4 players and all you can do is moan?

The real AG

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Agree with Lifelongred. We've consistently been amongst the highest spenders for years and we've already signed 4 players for the first team squad so relax they're going well so far early days yet

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I think your typo summed it up OP.

You are indeed just 'Goad'ing the rest of us!

Completely agree with Lifelong - was just saying that I knew nothing about HM until a couple of weeks ago, and he looks great, so I completely trust our current scouting/acquisition network.

Zeddicus

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04 Jul 2013 00:13:14
Why do so many of you go on about Henrikh Mkhitaryan?

How man of you have actually seen him play apart from having a look on YouTube?

It's a pretty sure thing the owners don't want to pay a huge outlay on a player that has experience in the PL - and who can blame them.!?i it's not 10 quid we are talking about!


How many of you were going on about Nuri Sahin last year and what happened to him?

We should develop the youth now because the reality is we won't make the top 4 next season - reality check!

M

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A typical "M" post.

FernanadoTorres and Luis Suarez - two big money signings with no premier league experience who tore it apart. In fact, didn't Mr Torres earn, and still holds the record for most goals in a debut season by a foreigner?

Nearly everything you type is flawed mate, it is so boring now.

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Would Henderson Allan shelvey go to his league an brake the scoring record? No! That's why we're signing him! To have a strong squad!

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Have you watch him or are you just assuming others haven't? Because I have and he is a good player. He has champions league experience and played quit well vs Chelsea in London so I'm sure he will have no problem in the prem if he is played in the right position and not like Nuri.

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Difference is Sahin was a loan so it was a risk worth taking. Also Sahins best position is the same as Gerrards and was then forced to play on the left. I have seen Mickey play many of times whilst I don't think he is worth 25 I do think he is the type of quality player that will improve us. The other signings I'm less convinced.

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Good idea, Misery, let's aim for 3 year's time and hope the lack of European revenue and relegation battle doesn't bankrupt us in the meantime. Pretty sure the owners wouldn't pay a huge outlay on a player with PL experience like Downing, Hendo, Carroll, Sturridge, Adam. Right?
The key is to maintain our progress towards Europe and Top 4 while simultaneously generating a talented youth system.
A look back at your previous posts just shows a catalogue of sour negativity and defeat.

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05 Jul 2013 00:14:02
Why do people dismiss peoples judgement based on youtube vids?

It's ridiculous.

You'd swear the players we think are class, are actually really imposters or something because it's on YT.

Just because it's not a full 90 minute match doesn't mean we can't see the players abilities.

Sure it's mostly the respective players' best bits, but that's what we want to see; So people can know what to expect when said player is on form.

It would defeat the purpose if people only posted poor performances.

If you can't tell that Mkhitaryan is a top player by watching a few YT videos of him, then you are the height of cynicism because all you need to know is right there in front of you.

If YT doesn't convince you then have a look at his goalscoring stats

179 apps: 80 Goals (For an attacking midfielder)

I'm convinced.

SR (StrabaneRed)

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04 Jul 2013 00:03:12
Suarez to arsenal?
Wats all that about?

Basy

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I would take the money and Wallcot

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I'm a spurs fan and what it is is real madrid telling the player and media what to write! They tried it with our gareth bale but levy didn't want to sell and gareth didn't want to leave! They are trying the same tactics to upset your club by trying to involve another team! Which would mean Liverpool probably panicking into sellingto madrid? Which will probably happen

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03 Jul 2013 23:58:44
If our no 7 does go hope not. What's the chance of getting Mario gomez he is made for the premiership.

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Gomez is old and another Carroll! Do you guys not see yet that Rodgers don't like big lanky centre forwards?

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Replacing a mobile forward with a static no. 9 would do us no good

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03 Jul 2013 23:49:50
Red Lee I have read through at least five of your latest posts and everyone of them points out that somebody elses post is pointless or that other fans are fickle! What do you think gives you the right to mock other supporters in such a way? And if you disagree with somebody elses post, then at least give a reason for it instead of just merely labeling it pointless like you have an infinate wisdom regarding the subject matter. People like yourself are only here for one thing and it is to bait or lure other people in to an arguement and there is no need for that or the controvesy you create! Childish, immature behaviour!

Ian the red

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Ian, do you see the irony of this post.

Daveevad

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Good post

Pugs.

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03 Jul 2013 23:10:53
Hi Eds,

I know you guys dislike discussing monetary values regarding player transfers, but could you give an estimate of how much the associated costs, besides the transfer cost, are? As a range or rough estimation of percentage of transfer cost?

Appreciate it,
ForzaRed {Ed002's Note - Liverpool have spent over £8M a year on agent fees each of the past three years - the other fees are a kick in the butt as well. Big money.}

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03 Jul 2013 23:37:00
So guys want your feed back. Every year at least one of our signings crumble and fail to live up to there hype, who does everyone think it'll be? Also our first 5 games of the season is againts 5 teams we dropped points to last season. I guess we'll see if we have improved after the first 5! Not slate me for being negative it's just simple facts that not every singing is going to be a good one!

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I wouldn't want to choose but there is an obvious number of risks in a transfer. players settling into the team, environment, etc etc. ultimately its an educated lottery. The positive aspect does seem to be the input of the new scouts though. it might mean Aspas has as big an impact as Michu or Sturridge. or not, time will tell. Amount spent is no guarantee for success as we all know.

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I like the look of aspas, mingolet and toure so far I've never seen him play though so would be unfair to assume he's some sort of week link. I'll wait till we've finished our business and were a few games in before trying to judge the new boys.

I think it will be Allen who may struggle to establish himself as a first team regular, I rate him but I think Lucas, Gerrard and coutinho pretty much pick them selfs. if Suarez stay it'll be him sturridge and aspas up top or coutinho if Suarez goes with Henderson taking over in the acm role or mkhitaryan if he signs. I can see it been difficult for Allen, downing etc to get games.

I might be completely wrong but that's how I see it.

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Above It should say I've never seen Alberto play but missed out his name somehow.

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03 Jul 2013 23:29:34
According to The Mirror, Mkhitaryan have apperantly gone on a strike, to force through a move to Liverpool. Guessing that this is BS, but it is interesting

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He must have learnt that tactic from Masch and Torres

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Is that really the sort of player we want? If Suarez pulls that stunt people will want him hanging, if its true I would be very disappointed.

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