Liverpool Banter Archive December 04 2013

04 Dec 2013 23:52:14
Who is Suarez's favourite celebrity cook? Certainly not Delia. Maybe Anthony Worrall-Thompson? Lots of whisked egg whites on face tonight for Norwich. Their defence was sliced and diced apart, I peel sorry for them.

Any other food based puns (or buns) accepted.

They were well and truly stuffed

It was obvious by half-time that Norwich's goose was cooked.

It was a piece of cake.

They need to go and eat humble pie

04 Dec 2013 23:41:29
Please do not get carried away with the result tonight. Last season we beat them 5-0 at Anfield. We didn't make any ground up on any of our nearest threats. Let's see if we can beat MU at OT like Everton did. I think we all know we are unlikely to. Last 3 games: Everton would have beaten us out of sight except for Mignolet, Hull did beat us out of sight and deserved the 3 points. To night against Norwich - some great goals but an awful team Norwich.

Just been watching Arsenal against Hull, and they never gave them a kick. We are still far, far away from top 4, and will NOT get there this season.

Sad to say but I feel it is true.

West Ham next, and then let's see.

KBL

We're not THAT far away from top 4.
we're fourth. cheer up mate.

what exactly were you hoping for tonight if not an emphatic win with incredible goals?

It was a great response to a poor performance last weekend - that is the gist of the posts on here, and I don't consider that to be getting carried away at all - it is simply the truth. Everyone knows we are still fourth on the table. It was just good to see how we can play, and that the Hull loss wasn't a true reflection of the team we can be most weeks. Your post is silly man, and really was unnecessary in all honesty. I don't know how anyone can be bothered posting such nonsense after a great win like that.

Hull did not deserve the win, they were not threatening us, their attacks were horrible, yet our defense was giving away goals cheaply. We were controlling the game without sweat yet our attack was toothless. So I can't say Hull deserve the win.
Everton was really lucky to win MU yesterday. MU was by far the best team.
Just to remind you Newcastle beat every single top team so far yet they lost from Swansea.
We are getting carried away because we are far better than Everton, United and Tottenham.

FBL
just read your post, you are 100% on the money, I would also add, it was the luis saurez show, he regards himself as a hostage and will perform a jail break at the first oppertunity

Here, here, Joe. People don't like to hear it but BR still hasn't got all the players he wants and it will take a few more seasons to get closer to the quality of Chelsea and Man City squads. Plus, it takes time to implement a new style of playing which I'm sure we'll see adjust subtly again when we add a few more quality players. Great result tonight, goals of pure quality.

"we are far better than Everton, United and Tottenham"

Not at all. It will be absolutely neck and neck between us and these three teams for the 4th spot.

We cannot afford too many days like Hull or we could easily finish 7th, or lower.

LIVERPRES, the hull game was a true
reflection of the way we've been
defending, slightest pressure and
we crumble, I get the impression
BR hasn't got a clue how to sort it
out, he has bought a GK 3C-HALVES
and were still chopping and changing
and conceding goals.

04 Dec 2013 22:42:06
Chelsea city both lucky lookin at the score

If anyone can count themselves lucky, looking at the current table and recent result . It's obviously Spurs, 100%!

Nah city and Chelsea both played well enough to win, sloppy defending only makes it seem 'jammy' in some way. Agree with big bob, Spurs are playing pretty poorly and really are riding their luck. First off it was penalties helping them sneak 1-0's and now it's just force of will pushing them over the line. Grinding out results is what the best teams do though eh.

04 Dec 2013 22:16:35
Cant remember bale scoring more than one epic goal too many times in a game, this suarez fella must hold a prettt heafty price tag after his recent form. So happy I got up at 5am (aus time) for the match.

Completely forget the hull game now, ha the world is back in order.

Tristanlfc

04 Dec 2013 21:56:44
Suarez is definetely the 3rd best player in the world. In other news, Moyes has finally seen Everton beat Man United T Old Trafford.

Moyesin

YNWA

But we do have to pity Norwich. 11 goals in 4 games. Maybe he's a secret Ipswich fam.

It's Debatable about Surez being 3rd best player in the world.
Could Messi and Ronaldo do as well in the Premiership??

Ronaldo did do as well! Messi is slightly questionable. he only does so well when he's directly competing with Ronaldo.

I guess how good ronaldo would be in the prem is just one of those questions we'll never know the answer to.

Yeah but joe, remember when Liverpool smashed Manchester United 4-1 and we made him look like a 4 year old.

04 Dec 2013 21:50:05
Suarez better than messi

Can't disagree. We must build a team around this guy and keep him for years. We could win everything with Suarez, just need the money to be spent on top players around him. World class, on a par with Messi/Ronaldo

Will be impossible to keep him I think, his heart is elsewhere. Still he if keeps on putting in performances like these we should be able to command a whopping price tag for him. Even 60mil is starting to look like an under sell.

04 Dec 2013 21:53:29
Brilliant home performance! That's what we get when we field a settled eleven. Suarez defo MotM - absolutely magnificent, pure class especially his 3rd goal. Gerrard and Coutinho completely dominated the midfield, and Allen was tidy. Luis, take a bow, son!

04 Dec 2013 20:46:24
3-0 up time for aspas and Alberto to be given a crack, ps. On this form Saurez is easily the best player on the planet
Nuff said

04 Dec 2013 20:43:39
Not many people moaning about the line up now

Still would've liked Sakho in there! But can't complain can I?

Rogers went with people he could trust sakho in he went for premier league experience must win game can't blame rogers

04 Dec 2013 20:41:28
We have the third best player in the world.

We have ronaldo? because luis is the best lad

04 Dec 2013 20:01:40
There are no words good enough to describe that goal.

04 Dec 2013 20:33:53
Or that one.

I'm going to go with wow, just wow.

04 Dec 2013 19:02:37
Heard berbatov wants to leave Fulham, he's still got it, yes he's quite lazy, but holds the ball up really well, he knows where the net is and would work with Suarez/ sturridge bouncing of him and it would add depth, opinions?
What do eds think?

{Ed001's Note - I would rather play with ten men then that lazy tit.}

Only thing it would add depth to is our wage bill. Lazy lazy lazy.

04 Dec 2013 18:53:07
Why won't Rodgers play Sakho?

04 Dec 2013 19:41:47
I like many Liverpool fans expect a response to sunday COME ON YOU REDMEN!

04 Dec 2013 18:14:07
{Ed033's Note - hsf, please use the contact form for tech questions

04 Dec 2013 17:36:26
(banter I suppose?)

Ed001 & Reds,

Just for a laugh- would you take any post- rafa players back? In particular from that huge batch clear out we had in 2011 summer.

Masch is an obvious choice, but I was wondering if there were any others that would add to the squad?

Maybe meireles, babel, insua or maxi?

{Ed001's Note - only Alonso for me.}

Thought arbeloa was decent and masch Alonso has to be the top of the list.

Gabriel Paletta. JOKE.

In their hay day or how they are now? In their hay day arbeloa, finnan, hyppia, mash, Alonso, torres, Garcia & ensua. Obviously virtually none of them now

Konchesky!

Ed001 masch was world class replace lucas with him everyday man

Hyypia was a Houllier buy.

{Ed001's Note - Finnan was also there before Rafa, who spent most of his time trying to replace him. Masch was never, has never and will never be world class. Very good headless chicken, good passer of the ball and fantastic workrate, but he was positionally inept, which is why he was always chasing round at a sprint. I would never want him back after the way he treated the club who rescued him from West Ham's reserves anyway. He is a piece of dog turd and deserves nothing but contempt.}

I think he is world class personally rather than being a mere "headless chicken" though I can understand why you would say that, considering he is (or was) a midfielder his passing range and goal scoring record is atrocious. Never the less a beast at breaking up opposition attacks - way he treated the club was unforgivable though, I wouldn't have him back either.

{Ed001's Note - he was far from a beast at breaking up attacks, as it was him going missing that allowed the opposition to attack in the first place! He is that good that he is kept out of the Barca team by an extremely average Busquets, that says it all to me.}

PoorWayne, sure roy the bore brought him in lol.

Oh and I would have garcia.

But Ed he does play at centre back for Barcelona and his is first choice defensive mid for Argentina. I'm not saying he is the best, just that he's not quite as bad as your saying IMO.

p.s. never understood why Rafa wanted to get shot of Finnan as soon as he arrived. I know Arbeloa was pretty good like but he as trying to get Kromkamp to replace him before that!

04 Dec 2013 16:58:12
not been on for a while, hope everyone is well, I was wondering how young suso was doing out on loan? I've not watched a lot of spanish football this season so all info would be greatly appreciated. cheers

He has a good return in terms of total assists and goals combined despite playing in a team who are currently bottom 3. Also notable from when I've watched Almeria is his excellent work rate. As you may have already read on here he could walk straight back into our team but I'm glad Almeria have him because they will play him every game that he is available for so he will certainly come back a better player. They have so far played him Wide right and left.

Nearly exactly as previously desctibed. The minutes he gets in a league of high quality would have been less than easy to match elsewhere. Also, he has shown leadership by example in a struggling side.

04 Dec 2013 16:31:53
Here's one for you guys, we are hoping for top four this season so with our current squad which players would get into any of the following teams, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd?
I feel Suarez, maybe astride and maybe Mignolet

Then how many would get into the Everton team or the Spurs team?.

Depends which team really, think only saurez and maybe mign would get into city's team. But as for the rest saurez and sturridge would get into any, coutinho into Man U's maybe Chelsea and agger would prob get into arsenals and maybe the other two. Think a lot of ours would get into spurs (sturridge, saurez, coutinho, agger, and johnson, he isn't great but really don't rate walker).

I'd have thought any of our four center backs would get in the United side, as you say Suarez would get in to most sides in the world.

Was thinking this last after arguing with an arsenal fan. on good form gerrard, lucas, johnson, suarez, coitinhio, sturridge, agger and mingolet would all b in with a shout. that's why I belive our fully fit starting 11 is as good with anyone in the league. where were really short is right wing. aspas, henderson, sterling, moses and ibe aren't good enough or not ready

Your completely ignoring team work or how well certain teams have gelled together and the understanding between other teammates games. That's more important than individuals, that's perhaps why arsenal and Liverpool are doing so well this year because the teams have been more stable than say Chelsea and Man City who should be running away with it the players they have.

Suarez in all of them.
Agger probably in all of them except City. Chelsea debateable.
Coutinho for United and Everton.
Sturridge probably all of them as well (unless he and Suarez were to both hypothetically go), perhaps not Arsenal.
Lucas would walk into United's team and possibly Arsenal's.
Mignolet probably Arsenal, City, maybe United, Definitely Everton. Not Chelsea, not Spurs.

No one else would be anywhere near sadly.

04 Dec 2013 16:26:06
What do you think about giving Alberto a chance? He's been good everytime he played.

I second that. I've been hoping for the lad to be given a chance for some time now. I still think he'll be on the bench today though.

I'd also like to see Ibe given a chance. I know he's young with a lot to learn but Moses and Sterling haven't dazzled yet.

04 Dec 2013 13:44:08
Not a rumour but more a suggestion. Having watched him tear us apart in the derby should Rodgers not be breaking the bank to try and sign Ross Barkley as he looks a genuine ready made replacement for Gerrard, tackles well usese the ball well and has a wonderful shot on him with either foot.

{Ed001's Note - never going to happen.}

Tear us apart in the derby? Erm.

Tore us apart? Did U watch the game or read press clippings. Barkley had one shots at goal, no assists and got booked for diving and won a couple of free-kicks by slumping on minimal contact. If that means he tore us apart then I suggest you start watching games and drawing YOUR own conclusions instead of drawing them from someelse`s match reports.

I'm not sure I believe the hype about him just yet. Obviously huge potential but that's about it for me. His breakthrough reminds me of sterlings. He could stagnate just as sterling seems to have done.

04 Dec 2013 12:47:40
Hi eds,
Just curious on something - you've mentioned that a club can only have 2 loan signings at any one time (unless of goalkeeping emergency loans or having a player on a loan-to-buy-scheme), so in which case how come Everton were able to sign Barry, Lukaku and Deulofeu on loan in the last window? Is Barry on a loan-to-buy? Or is it something to do with Deulofeu being an U-21 player?

Cheers!

{Ed002's Note - It is to do with caveats in Deulofeu's contract that provide options at the end of the season and a bunch of stuff about money. It is complex I am told and tied to game time. Nothing is expected to come of it.}

Ahhhh ok, that makes a bit more sense - cheers Ed!

04 Dec 2013 10:31:32
Hi Eds,
I don't for 1 second believe that this would ever happen, however. Would you consider Ravel Morrison to be a good addition to the Liverpool squad. I think he could slot in right now, He wouldn't be likely to be too expensive would he.

{Ed002's Note - I don't see it happening so it is not really something I can comment on. Sorry.}

I agree with you ravel has the talent and will only get better.
and if we can not lure a player away from westham we are in serious trouble.

{Ed001's Note - brilliant talent but he is far too busy playing gangsta with his mates in Manchester to make the most of it. I would steer well clear until he grows up, a lot.}

I agree with you ed I read about his past, but his price will only go up and someone will take the chance to buy him.
might aswell be us.
shaw-barkley and ravel are the only youngsters I see that have a real chance to be stars.
we already have 2 ibe and rossiter.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool do not want to be taking chances on players like Morrison at this time - and I don't see any chance of him moving to Liverpool in January.}

Morrison way too risky, Barkley and Shaw never going to happen.

I never even saw you replied to this till now ed02. Many thanks.

04 Dec 2013 11:35:43
watched the u21 and thought brad smith was amazing pace touch everything know he just came back from a serious injury but I feel he can make the breakthrough. ray

04 Dec 2013 10:08:44
It's quite simple - tonight's game is a must -win, and Rodgers has to think carefully about who he's going to name for the game. I hope he goes for Aspas (if he's fit) and Suarez upfront with Coutinho in support, or Suarez upfront supported by Coutinho and Alberto

This is exactly what I was thinking - I'd like to see a 4-3-2-1 personally, with Coutinho and Alberto behind I think to still keep the dominance in midfield. Personally I wonder if Lucas needs a break but at the same time he's the best DM we have and this is exactly the sort of game that we need a confidence-boosting clean sheet in.

I'd go with either of your suggestions. I'd also like to see Aspas played as the main striker with Suarez on the left side.

04 Dec 2013 13:11:57
We need to score some goals tonight, Winning is a must but a convincing win.
I would have just 2 midfielders with Lucas and Hendo/Allen and then countinho suarez and alberto behind Aspas.

At some point, those Aspas (who I think will be a good player) and Alberto ( looks tidy) need games to prove themselves. Playing them sporadically will not help them settle. Play them so they can show their worth.

03 Dec 2013 23:40:41
got a quick question for anybody that might know the answer, a friend ordered a ticket for the Norwich game this morning, something major has come up and now he has to finish his trip to Liverpool early and will miss the game. On the website it says refunds have to be made at least 14 days before the game but he only bought his ticket yesterday. would he be able to get a refund?

Ill buy them. if you visit www.diversefc.co.uk and use the contact page, ill get and email. I don't think ed will let me put an email or my fb so yeah. i'd definitely buy them :)

It's only the one ticket Benny it's in the centinery stand. Is that ok?

Hi Ashy,

how can I get refunds on my tickets. I have two tkts to Liverpool - Hull game on 2nd January but now I can't make it. So how can I get the refund.

Besides, I would love to sell them to anyone but I am not sure how will they enter the stadium if they don't have my membership card. Any solution will be helpful.

And yeah, the tickets are at the KOP

Hi mgz,

I'm not quite sure how the refund system works mate, I had a quick look on the LFC site and all it says is it must be done no longer than 14 days before the match. I assume you would have to contact the ticket office. I would of bought the tickets from you myself but I'm busy that date too, sorry I couldn't help more mate. If my friend does get a refund I will let you know how he did it.

04 Dec 2013 12:21:21
Mgz, how much would you be willing to part with the tickets for? I would love to sit in the Kop. Only ever been to one LFC game and that was a Friendly against Leverkusen. I am free that date as well!

YNWAdam

04 Dec 2013 12:23:00
I'm not too sure how the membership card thing works, but there must be a way around that.

YNWAdam

My girlfriend is coming over from Taiwan and would love to take her to a game. If those tickets are sitting side by side I would love to take those tickets off your hands mgz1985. Unless Adam if dead set on buying them, obviously first come first served eh.