Liverpool Banter Archive May 03 2015

 

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03 May 2015 21:06:56
I've been reading some of the posts on here recently and to be quite frank I've been disgusted by the abuse that some 'fans' like to dish out! Glen Johnson maybe a poor player but the least we can do is support him and get behind our team!
Steven Gerrard is another player who seems to have taken much of the stick too! I think I read a post the other day saying "the sooner he goes the better". Gerrard is a club legend for crying out loud! He's stuck with us through thick and thin and when he leaves the club people seem to forget that! Also another thing people forget is that he is almost 35! Not many players will make it that far at the highest level and Gerrard is a pure example of professionalism and example!
Come on everyone, get behind the team you love and think about what you're saying!
P.s Get behind Brendan too! The guy's our manager and until he is sacked there shouldn't be any ridiculous comments about him

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03 May 2015 23:11:30
I totally agree on Gerrard's abuse absolute disgrace! even now with age catching him up he still made me jump up out my seat and punch the air with his cameo against the Mancs! you can't buy that passion! Rodgers I have give loads of stick about! I can't hide my feelings mate! I'm old school heart on a sleeve Souness / McMahon / Carra if your not prepared to bleed for my team your not worthy! I don't think Rodgers would?

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04 May 2015 04:08:34
this site is built on opinions, if all we talked about was what a legend gerrard was it would be pretty boring. players get prised when they deserve it and likewise when they don't. Johnson, yes he's our player but he's been on a fat wage and hasn't shown half the commitment in the last 2 years as he did prior to that. Gerrard is a legend but most would agree he should have been a bit part player this season at most. some may be a bit more animated in their criticism but that's what opinions do. don't even want to go into BR criticism - that has been brought upon by the stupidity of his comments, tactics, team selection and purchases.

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04 May 2015 07:39:49
Here! here! DaRedMan.

GJ puts the effort in he's just not a good defender.
Gerrard is a legend end of.
Rodgers has made mistakes but so does every manager. He has never disgraced the club or the fans and does not deserve the abuse dished out.

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04 May 2015 09:21:42
Glen Johnson puts the effort in??
Is this the Glen Johnson who plays at Liverpool your talking about?
Hes also not a good defender but a below average one for a top prem team.
If he actually put in the effort to track back now and again you could say he's an average defender for a top prem team at best. In fact even that's being kind, he seems well past it these days.

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04 May 2015 09:24:21
Daredman

Why should fans stand by Johnson when 90% of the time he can't even be arsed playing, he doesn't deserve any support.

Gerrard on the other hand deserves full support for what he's done for the club, its just down to the fact his legs can't handle it anymore.

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04 May 2015 10:41:03
Ron Keague! you from Birkenhead lad? what do you call Rodgers latest outburst that the fans was calling for gerrard to be subbed before the pen? did the media need to know that? There is your shame on your club and you BETRAYAL of the FANS right there mate! maybe he was getting his own back for the plane eh?
Swishcleaner! Gerrard could of been a bit part player if your man BR new what he was doing?

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04 May 2015 11:57:45
Totally agree scouse Gerard could have had a decent season playing 20 mins a game in an attacking midfield role, instead he's been misused when his legs can't hack it.

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04 May 2015 12:09:42
What does that have to do with birkenhead?

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04 May 2015 12:25:58
Oh please, glen johnson has ability but clearly has been disinterested and bored for way too long now, somebody playing for liverpool on £100,000 a week and manages to look that bored and has sucha lack of commitment, is everything that's wrong with football.

Rodgers thinks he is also bigger than the club and is driving us into the ground with his arrogance.

Gerrard deserves respect and yes, is a legend, but also has made many fans realise recently that he has been afforded too much power and pandering towards him at liverpool - it is the right time to go, probably later than what it should have been to be honest.

Its only a matter of wanting what's best at the club.

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04 May 2015 22:28:19
I'm not from Birkenhead and whilst I'm flattered by your interest, I'm afraid I'm not that way inclined. Sorry.

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03 May 2015 20:36:30
Eds would lacazette be possible if sterling were to be sold

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{Ed002's Note - It is very frustrating that people don't read the posts or search.}

04 May 2015 09:58:15
I have.... abuse cut.........

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{Ed002's Note - One less piece of abusive trash to worry about.}

03 May 2015 20:01:30
Eds,

Do you know what date roughly the end of season review takes place, who is at it and where it takes place?

Looking at Rogers at the side of the pitch yesterday he looked very subdued.

Would he know either way by now if he was staying next year or would this not be disclosed till the meeting takes place?

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about, sorry.}

03 May 2015 19:57:20
Ed s reds regarding right back with Johnson leaving flannagans injury setback man quills indifferent form and hopefully can being used in midfield I've seen reports linking us to Clyne montya Jan matt and tripper any of this true? Also Sergio Diaz any truth in us wanting him? Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine please.}

04 May 2015 10:24:04
Luke Garbutt. Done Deal?????

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03 May 2015 18:13:25
Dunno if i'm more annoyed about not getting 4th or the fact we'll probably finish 5th

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03 May 2015 18:22:01
Europa league is a pain in the backside, no ones really interested it just tires the players out.

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{Ed002's Note - Well if Liverpool don't want to be in it they can withdraw - that would not be a problem.}

03 May 2015 18:27:58
I think the fact that the winner now qualifies for CL makes the competition a bit different. I'm not going to complain about watching our team more than once a week. I don't know why Liverpool seem to be the only top team incapable of playing more than one game a week? Other sides manage just fine. For me the only downside I see is that it does not bring in the same money as CL does. With good management I don't see why we can't put in a decent challenge for top 4 and the EL trophy.

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03 May 2015 18:54:36
I agree Super. I would much rather win any European trophy that a domestic cup. Plus the far superior prize money it brings compared to the domestic cups. Its worth being in and its worth winning.

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03 May 2015 19:24:54
Yeah Everton coped just fine lol

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03 May 2015 19:59:47
Don't think english clubs do well because with the busy xmas up catches up on them

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03 May 2015 20:16:30
Perfect opportunity to play fringe players and academy players if we're in that competition

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{Ed002's Note - Great way to destroy their confidence and piss off everyone. The owners will not be happy with that approach and the lost revenue. Sponsors will look to start walking away and the reputation of the club will get dragged further down the pan.}

03 May 2015 20:21:41
Another embarrassing post about not wanting the professional football club you support to play in a professional football tournament they qualified for.

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03 May 2015 20:41:20
It's not embarrassing at all.

If you ask Everton and Spurs fans they would say exactly the same.

I doubt the poster would say the same about the two domestic English cups, but that European competition is just a waste of time.

I wish we could concentrate on the league and the domestic cups, and many supporters I know feel the same way, as they do about our players playing for England too.

Now, if it was the Champions league, then that's a different story as it's not a cup for losers and has beens of the season.

Unfortunately, we don;t have any choice and would set a precedent on football arrogance if we did pull-out.

Crappy competition if ever I've seen.

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03 May 2015 21:21:18
So what is the league cup then Davey with its league 1 and 2 teams and £200,000 prize money?

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03 May 2015 20:54:26
Sorry but Liverpool Football Club was built on European Cups. And by that I mean Old Big Ears !!!! This competition is a shambles and Uefa should just boycott it and create something new. Even the old version of the competition was way better. Love every competition were involved in, I even love the league cup which gets blasted,, but that Europa League is garbage. Thursday nights and 5 o'clock midweek kick offs are a joke. Just do away with it, even that plank Fergie branded it as 'punishment'

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{Ed002's Note - All Liverpool need to do is withdraw.}

03 May 2015 21:20:25
Some drips on this forum there really is. The Europa league is a waste of time. As Rafa said FACT haha

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{Ed002's Note - I shall look forward to Liverpool withdrawing, losing the opportunity of a CL place and all of the prize money.}

03 May 2015 22:05:04
Not half as 'pissed off' as everyone will be if we don't make top 4 due to our first XI not being rotated for a second-rate European competition. Not need to get angry and start swearing ed02

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{Ed002's Note - You are the new breed of Liverpool fan that does not want the best for the club. I am sure that the owners would be more than happy if you moved on to support a Champions League side.}

03 May 2015 22:11:15
Sponsors want as much exposure for their money as possible. Playing any european competition for Liverpool (and progressing to its final few stages) is the basic requirement sponsors are expecting for the money they pay.

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03 May 2015 23:20:27
We exist to win trophies, we get into that habit again and the players and cash will start rolling in! the more you enter the more chance you got.

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03 May 2015 23:29:29
What about athletic? They built they're recent success on on strong El performances.

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03 May 2015 23:59:14
We really do have some nuggets on this site. Does anyone look back at 2001 and go yeah it was a treble but two thirds of it was pretty crap actually. I wouldn't think so.

Any silverware is important for this club. Whatever competition we are in we should look to win. The end.

I am sure Bill, Bob and Gerard weren't all willing to dismiss the competition so easily.

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04 May 2015 00:57:26
Quite like the Europa league myself.
Always enjoyed watching us against some plucky, sometimes obscure European teams.

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04 May 2015 01:30:48
If we have to play in it so be it maybe we should get our house in order to actually compete properly in both

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04 May 2015 07:18:43
What a load of nonsense some people sprout on this site, without playing in europe over the yrs in whatever guise liverpool would not the world wide brand it is today. And from what i can remember we were completely embarrassed in the CL and knock out of the euros fairly comfortably by a so called second tier team.

If we qualify, we should give it respect and play to win it, simple.

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{Ed001's Note - every game is a game we should be trying to win, whether it is a reserve game, a Lancashire Cup game or a Europa League game. It is about respect, respect for the badge on the chest and the team you are opposing. Anyone saying otherwise has no idea what Liverpool FC stands for and should stay away until they make the effort to learn.

All this crap about players not being able to cope is just that, crap. They are not being prepared properly if they are unable to cope with the amount of games. It really is that simple. Anything else is just excuses for failure by people who are failing.}

04 May 2015 02:47:30
Dear Guaranga nothing stops me from reading every post I've missed since I've last been on the site but tonight I have to make an exception after this thread. Embarrassing. what a bunch of morons

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04 May 2015 03:57:51
cash and trophies aside we need European experience and the EL games will help. we were abysmal in the CL campaign and should we by a miracle get the 4th spot this year , under the current management I would expect us to go out at the same stage next season. I would prefer just to concentrate on the league but a trophy is a trophy and can only help the longer term profile of the club. not being in Europe at all is not a good look.

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04 May 2015 06:44:40
Personally, I think the Europa League should change to be a knockout Cup competition, no group stages, just straight home and away knockout, not even commencing until the group stages of the CL a over.

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04 May 2015 10:18:30
I wish to be disassociated with the fans who don't want LFC to qualify and win every tournament. Their minority views do not represent me.
Apart from everything that has already been said, the winners gain valuable competitive European experience and qualify for the champions league.

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03 May 2015 17:47:00
Eds002 I have a question if you have the time to reply

I'm a avid reader of your site and have been for many years, but this is my first post

You recently wrote a really informative article in regards to the pan European breakaway which has got me thinking

I have been fortunate enough to travel all over Europe with the Reds over the years and was wondering if you know of any discussions that may of been held in regards to away fan ticket allocation and travel arrangements?

For example, if we get a allocation of 2000 tickets, for any European club away, on match day it would be pandemonium for the travelling fans

If the average plane can hold 200 seats, that would mean 20 planes taking off to go to that particular cities airport from say 5 am to around midday, which at the minute simply does not happen

Would the clubs maybe try and work in conjunction with a airline service from john Lennon airport and Manchester airport at a capped price?

I know liverpool FC have a affiliation with Thomas Cook, but it can be very limited, and very pricey

Or is it simply up to the travelling fans to get themselves there and back?

Are the matches planned for Saturday and Sunday?

I hope this is being taken into consideration as it could really the essence out of the game if you only end up getting 200 odd away fans at each game .

Thanks in advance

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{Ed002's Note - There has been and will not be any consideration about travel - and there has been no discussion about when games would be played - that is something that will end up being negotiated with television companies and even though a couple have shown interest, it is not at that level of discussion. And right now, I would not worry too much about Liverpool fans needing to get to the games.}

03 May 2015 18:27:22
Ed, so is it to be presumed, that if you are a G14 club, it doesn't necessarily mean you would be invited, or considered to join either one of the two pan-European tiers?

As it would be away from UEFA, would the current rankings (at the time of the breakaway) be taken into consideration?

Regards

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{Ed002's Note - G14 has not existed for a number of years - it stopped in 2007 or 2008.

The rankings are of no significance.}

03 May 2015 18:44:49
Ed can you tell us the two teams pushing for this break away league? Think i read that you said two want it as soon as possible, and a couple are totally against. What sort of teams are involved in These meetings? If you're allowed to reveal

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03 May 2015 18:46:14
Thank you for the insight and knowledge Ed2

Regards

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{Ed002's Note - You are very welcome.}

04 May 2015 01:00:10
I imagine teams like man city and PSG would want to breakaway so they can continue to chuck money about without the consequences.

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03 May 2015 17:22:38
Reports coming out of some parts of the media today that Liverpool have made contact with Klopps representatives.

Heard anything new eds?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

03 May 2015 18:21:17
I would be extremely surprised if they hadn't sounded him out considering everything!

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04 May 2015 07:57:58
My mate who's sits along from me at the match works for a big well known German sportswear company and they have some involvement with the big Bundasliga teams

Whilst he was attending meetings at Head Office ( in Germany ) It was suggested that putting money on Klopp being next LFC manager would not be such a bad idea.

I'm not claiming inside info, it's a reliable source or anything else, it was literally passing comments at the game on Saturday.

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03 May 2015 17:06:32
Hey EDs with Flannos injury problems is there an increased chance of Johnson staying at the club

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{Ed002's Note - Why would Johnson decide to stay because another player gets injured? He rejected the contract Liverpool offered him - if they double it perhaps?}

03 May 2015 16:13:37
Raheem Stirling is a defo out. Could be 50 mill cash or 40 with addon to 55 depending if city or Chelsea go for him.

Ins: Milner, Benteke, depay, cavani (loan to buy)

Ibe and illori to be used more with the latter used as a practice right back to utilise his pace

Expect some change in coaching staff but Rogers will stay.

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{Ed002's Note - PSG will not be loaning Cavani; Liverpool have Ilori up for sale. But there remains a decent chance of Milner joining.}

03 May 2015 16:24:23
We don't need benteke, when do we ever cross? We need a vietto type, fast and agile who can close defenders down fast

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{Ed001's Note - I am so glad somebody else has seen that. Benteke is great if you are looking to defend deep and hit it up to him or put the ball into the corners to be whipped in quickly, in other words old fashioned direct long ball footie. Other than that, he struggles. He is technically excellent, but he doesn't use his ability well enough to be any more than a target man with good feet. That is if you forget about the fact that he is as injury prone as Sturridge.}

03 May 2015 16:43:42
Thanks I needed a good laugh - Cavani?!? Leaving aside his huge wages, he's overrated. More of a United signing to go alongside Veron, Di Maria, Falcao as a huge waste of money.

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03 May 2015 16:52:10
Ed001 or Ed002

Just a though, if we had called a miss on Lallana and Balotelli, surely we could have used those transfer funds and gone for a player like Lacazette? The wages alone spent on Lallana and Balotelli would have been adequate?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about nor what you mean by a "player like Lacazette". Are we going to redo last summer again?}

03 May 2015 16:56:27
When do we ever buy what we need lurch?

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03 May 2015 17:01:46
Ok Ed002. What I actually meant was use the funds and wages spent on Balotelli and Lallana to sign Lacazette?

Would we have had a chance to get Lacazette with the money made available to Rodgers last summer? What is your opinion Ed002?

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{Ed002's Note - No chance - the player made it very clear he had no intention of moving last summer. Lacazette was not an option for Liverpool at that time.}

03 May 2015 17:15:57
And obviously Ed002, correct me if I am wrong, in LFC's current situation being lead under Rodgers, LFC would still not be an option for Lacazette?

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{Ed002's Note - As has been repeatedly explained, Lacazette's position is complex as it involves another player, Fekir. There is interest in him from a number of clubs including Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Juventus, Arsenal and, in particular PSG and there have been a number of discussions about his future. Manchester City moved on to buy Bony in January and now need to be making space if they are going to continue their interest in Lacazette. With Jovetic and probably Dzeko leaving in the summer nothing will come of it unless Aguero were to also leave. Guy Hillion has been looking at Lacazette but there has been no offer made by Chelsea - but they have seemingly lost out on their identified targets and they are looking for forwards. Much will depend on the future of the other player and what happens in terms of success this season and Champions League qualification. My expectation is that he will stay at Lyon.}

03 May 2015 17:51:52
I can see the points some of the guys and Ed001 make here against Benteke, injury prone and him being more a box tall strong forwrd and we are not a team that play direct or have a lot of crossing - so we are risking a new (even if surely better) version of Balotli in terms of someone nut suitbale to our style. But the thing is I think that anyway we have to add this element to our game and get wingers who can cross well as well as mroe presenece in the box. If we keep on trying to penetrate from the centre it will be as easy to stop us as it was in many games this year. And we are desperate for players who can head from corners and free kicks - that header from gerrad yesterday was so so rare this season and he is leaving.

Benetke is a beast of a player, with a very good consistent record of scoring in the PL - if we can get him, which I doubt, for me it is a no brainer.

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03 May 2015 19:03:12
It is not. He is made of glass, not consistent enuff, no movement and not good enuff for where we wanna be.

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03 May 2015 20:23:00
Ed001, in your opinion please is Vietto more likely than Ings? I appreciate "most likely" questions are hard to answer but wanted your thoughts please mate. I've been following Veitto & Ings this season since we've been linked and I can't figure who is the better fit in our style of play. Both have scored similar amount of goals this season in struggling sides. As has Origi.

Also with our interest in Depay, is he being looked at as well as a Striker or is he seen as a Striker please?

Appreciate your feedback mate

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{Ed001's Note - Vietto would be better, but Ings seems more likely. He was all ready to join in January, Ings I mean, it seems (though I am not convinced he is in any way shape or form what we need, especially lacking the character to even take a penalty for Burnley) he is still keen to join us. I really hope someone at the club has the sense to see that a player who is too cowardly to take a pen in case he misses it and Burnley go down is not what we need. We already struggle when it matters, we don't want to add someone who will hide rather than step up when it matters. If we sign him, then whoever is making the decisions should be sacked for not doing their job. What ever happened to researching a player's personality and character before choosing them?? We are simply not getting transfers correct because we are not doing enough research on them and making sure they are what we need.

Depay is seen as a wide attacker, as he is a wide attacker.}

04 May 2015 08:07:32
Ok mate cheers for reply. I agree with you that i'm not convinced Ings is exactly what we need But he seems the only one that keeps cropping up.

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04 May 2015 10:31:42
Can't understand anyone wanting to throw cash away at Benteke.
He tries for about 6 games a season. His goal scoring is average. He's basically another Balotelli in my book.
Could be amazing, but not prepared to put the effort in which his talent requires.
Besides that, he doesn't fit our system.

Ings will come because he is cheap.

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04 May 2015 15:31:03
If Ings doesn't want to take pens I'm sure balo will have no issue is taking it off him and burying it :)

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03 May 2015 15:36:09
Does this mean we have to do the guard of honour gimmick next week? 🙈

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03 May 2015 15:51:00
Yeah but let's not be bitter and I would like to say congratulations to Chelsea, the best team over a course of a season. Ed2 you going to enjoy it?

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{Ed002's Note - It is good for the team, they'll be happy.}

03 May 2015 16:15:12
BR said we would

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03 May 2015 16:17:47
Yep Congratulations to Chelsea. Well Done.

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03 May 2015 17:08:28
Chelsea have very much earned the title of champions. Been the best team all season.

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03 May 2015 17:17:35
Shall we have a wip round for Chelsea, lay on a buffet next week. Give me a break! Let's say congratulations haha

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03 May 2015 17:25:11
Yes Chelsea not the most attractive team to watch but Jose has that winning mentality that our manager lacks.

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03 May 2015 18:28:56
supermario you typify the new breed of sports fan and sad to say Liverpool fan. Unfortunately you pretend to support Liverpool. Your crass, uncomplimentary attitude towards a successful and ultimately better team, is not what Liverpool Football Club was built on son. Please go and support the Bitters, that would probably suit you more, you complete moron.

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03 May 2015 18:32:31
Theyre a strong side. And probably the only Club in the top 5 in England that can defend!! Not vintage Chelsea,, but effective and deserve the league title

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03 May 2015 19:04:38
Congrats to them led the PL from start to finish. got to give props to them.

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03 May 2015 21:12:06
Farbeit from endless sender to blast someone else on this website. You're too "above that". I'm of the belief we should congratulate them, sure, they were the best this year. But that's all for me. I still want to beat them this weekend; I don't care what they did in the 364 days prior to this weekend. That's what makes being a fan fun.

Just because someone has a different mindset than you does not make them a "complete moron."

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04 May 2015 01:32:38
The table don't lie

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04 May 2015 10:33:33
Should serve as a motivation to our players as something to strive for and it might give them an extra 5% motivation for the game. We need the points, Chelsea don't.

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03 May 2015 11:09:46
Question for ed02 if I may? would liverpool consider someone like Michael Emenalo in a sporting director role. Chelseas scouting and loan system under him has been impressive. Not only have they blooded and developped loanees, they've identified potential targets that even if they don't go onto being first team players they will be sold as a profit, enabling them to keep well within the FFP rules and in fact make a net profit.
I realise its like a slave trade, with players just being bought to make profit, without even playing a game for their parent club. But with FFP its become even more cut-throat business than ever.

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{Ed002's Note - You have all become obsessed with the concept of having a Director of Football without really thinking through what they will do. It seems like clutching at straws.

I am not aware of any interest Liverpool has in Michael Emenalo.

Also, Chelsea have not simply been buying players to make a profit on.}

03 May 2015 11:46:20
Sorry Ed2 I didn't mean for Liverpool FC to try and employ Michael Emenalo, just someone to do a similar role. I'm not clutching at straws, but have read a lot of scouting reports, and business models pertaining to FFP and how to utilise the loan market to the best effect. I am obviously not a Chelsea fan, but I do know how their business model is working to great effect. Just think it is maybe something Liverpool and Michael Gordon may want to emulate. Its not a exact match as a Director of football. Sporting Director is just a title. ..............

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{Ed002's Note - I have nbo idea if Liverpool wish to emulate what Chelsea are doing. I deleted all of the nonsense at the end.}

03 May 2015 10:26:09
Listen guys, I am all for replacing BR, i've been asking for it for months, but the abuse he gets is not right. Its not like he is trying to be bad, he just doesn't seem to know any better. After all, he is still part of the team, hopefully not for long, so let's at least try to be respectful. I just don't like the bashing coaches and players of my team get, whether they deserve it or not

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03 May 2015 12:17:14
I agree, Steph. A change of management, or structure, in my opinion will be good for Liverpool FC, but no human being, in any walk of life should be subjected to vile or below the belt abuse. After all Brendan is a man, in my opinion, who tried his best, to make Liverpool great again, just like, Kenny, Roy and Rafa.
I myself in my life journey, have failed. I've been sacked too, in my working life, but it doesn't mean you, me or Brendan deserves to be villified. Let the man go with dignity if that is his fate.

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03 May 2015 13:00:06
Maybe if he was a bit more humble about his short comings in setting the team out to lose rather than making it everyone else's fault but his own, people would be more tolerant. Not to mention his stupid statement re 5th is where we are and how he is the best man for the job. He won't admit he's made mistakes because he doesn't think he has! Even the best managers can admit when they got something wrong but BR is incapable of understanding his errors let alone learning from them.

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03 May 2015 13:57:39
Its human nature unfortunately Swish. He's just one of us. He has a self protect mode like we do, he has an arrogance like we do, and we will be sacked like we do, when we don't get the required results. I don't feel sorry for him, with his mega salary, but I don't like any soul being villified for trying. When he's gone, it will be history, and every morning brings a new day. He's had the dignity to say how honoured he is to be our manager, for as long as it lasts. That to me is humility at least. He's presented his neck. Its down to FSG now.

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03 May 2015 14:36:13
His antics attract the abuse he gets, simple. He brings it all on himself and last I checked, nobody abused his wife, GF or kids. People give him stick for his long list of shortcomings that he is unwilling to improve on. If you feed the animals, you will get bitten

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03 May 2015 16:27:48
I think fans have been vocal about needing to sack him because for some reason nobody in the media has turned on him. All the pundits think he's a good manager but I can't see why

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04 May 2015 10:48:21
They think he's a good manager because he is a good manager. He's inexperienced, as everyone agrees, but he's taken on one of the biggest clubs in the country with enormous (unrealistic) expectations and he's taken us closer to the premier league title than any manager in 25 years. Yet he is abused and ridiculed on this forum like some kind of outcast.

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{Ed002's Note - He has failed miserable whilst wasting vast sums of money. The club is ranked 42 in Europe and will be lower by the start of next season.}

04 May 2015 11:26:54
I'd say the club has wasted the money and Rodgers had a part in that but is not totally responsible(Mario)
Last season we were ahead of schedule, the last 12 months have been a big step backwards.
Doesn't necessarily make him a bad manager. I'm sure Jose regarded last season as a failure but it doesn't make him a bad manager and he's proven his quality this season.

(Ps - not about Chelsea, just the easiest recent example of poor season followed by great season by a good manager)

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04 May 2015 13:42:07
Mourihno is afforded more than one season because he's won countless things and inherited a squad that wasn't his own. A few tweaks and they win the league 12 months later. BR doesn't know how to win and will waste another 3 years at our club trying to figure out how to be one.

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03 May 2015 09:29:08
Brendan Rodgers, you clearly are a man who knows he is going. The only reason why you are still here is because if FSG sack you now then LFC will be bombarded by the media and FSG will be bombarded by the fans too regarding your replacement and in return put unnecessary pressure on your replacement.

3 games to go, nice to know you Brendan.

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03 May 2015 12:46:58
I think he will still be at LFC next season.Note I said think and not hope.Paul Dalglish made a sensible comment when he said BR needs a winner alongside him.

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03 May 2015 08:09:17
Hi Eds

Any movement on a new structure to replace the inadequate transfer committee? It so clearly is not working and always appears to be on the back foot!!

Surely there should have been a Plan A, B & C last summer for Suarez's departure but yet again they have been caught out leaving only a panic buy (Ballotelli) leaving the manager with what is clearly a complete strike force he has no faith in!!

What is the latest with Depay some encouraging press recently which suggests Liverpool are winning the race but would not be surprised if Utd or someone else came along and blew them out of the water!!

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed with Depay. What I previously said is still correct.}

03 May 2015 10:23:38
I've heard that there is another meeting with Depay today, not sure if it's true Eds or needed at this stage though?

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{Ed002's Note - What makes you think that there have been any meetings between the player himself and Liverpool?}

03 May 2015 12:04:58
Maxlfc

1) I still think given time as a young manager he could come good but since most people on here want instant success most People are embarrassing them selfs with your comments on here.sound like a bunch of teenagers.

2) don't take everything you here as gospel when he says that he might not mean it.
It might be a way of just taking a bit of pressure off the players.

Managers all over the world say things all the time they are most of time saying it for a reason.

It's like saying the team you are playing are favourites to win that doesn't mean he thinks there team is better than yours he is just putting the pressure on the opposition.

Fans on here are embarrassing and like the ED's say freckle!!! conduct your self better.

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03 May 2015 13:03:33
I wouldn't call 200 million, 3 years and zero trophies impatient. No one expected miracles but they do expect improvement and currently we are going backwards.

Rodgers mouth actually has the opposite effect, he puts more pressure on the players because he won't take the blame for anything himself.

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03 May 2015 15:21:16
Ed002, do you still think Depay will end up at Manchester United.
Thanks in advance for your reply
Ollivander

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{Ed002's Note - Probably.}

03 May 2015 15:35:37
Meant his agent or representatives Ed mate, just heard was some meeting today but suppose nothing else to discuss. I don't no, was just after your thoughts really.

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03 May 2015 07:57:18
What has ki**ed me off more than anything this season, is not the poor transfers we made in the summer, nor is it the abysmal performances. It's the fact that with 8? Games to go brendan decided to throw in the towel by publicly stating there's effectively no chance of getting top 4. Had we won against hull and west brom? (Correct if wrong) then we would be on level terms with the scum! I thought his tactics were shocking this season all year but when he came out and said that, well it was just the cherry on the cake. Needs to go

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03 May 2015 08:57:01
What are you talking about it was only after the Hull game he admitted it was pretty much done with 4 games left with Chelsea away to play and he was right so get your facts right.

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03 May 2015 09:20:50
Actually would have been a point ahead. Watching united lose yesterday just made those performances even more painful. Barring some sort of miracle next weekend we have blown it. Very frustrating!

Cheers

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03 May 2015 09:52:44
But it wasn't with 8 games to go, LFCs was over even before it began. The wasted money in the transfer market to overhaul the team because one player lefts. Why was this even allowed to happen when only a maximum of 3 players, and some from the academy would have sufficed?, LFC needed quality, instead, quantity won the day with BR in charge. The rubbish served up in the first part of the season added to the misery, even more, BR does not have the foresight to change things when required, and instead leaves it way to late, like January. Under BR, LFCs season will always start in January.

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03 May 2015 10:11:29
deanalfie08

"I very much doubt we'll be in the top four come the end of the season,"

Rodgers said this after we were thrashed 4-1 by Arsenal which was 7 matches ago.

I think you are the one who needs to get over your love for Brendan Rodgers and you are the one who needs the facts straight!

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03 May 2015 11:08:46
Can't remember him saying that after Arsenal.

Deanalfie08 is spot on.

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03 May 2015 13:22:04
Google is a wonderful thing and so easy to use. Rodgers did in fact say that after the arsenal game and even rewrote history claiming he brought sterling out of the youth set up and not dalglish. So max is quite right i'm afraid. Its easily confirmed!

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03 May 2015 14:39:35
Eds fellow reds , the biggest problem with Lfc
Is that Br can't deal with big game pressure it doesn't
Matter which team we are playing against he crumbles under any pressure . That's what cost us last year and always will under him . He never wins a big game

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03 May 2015 18:11:35
There have been some v good performances against the top teams in the last year,some victories and some loses,MU away this season being a case in point.But why does every Brenda apologist use last seasons effort to give him another season,last season we had a player who was bein mentioned in the same breath as messi and ronaldo stoke could of challenged for CL with the runt playing like that

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03 May 2015 01:14:36
That banner and plain! Are you people for real? If you want to keep living in the past, how come you have forgotten how it all ended with rafa? Apart from one amazing game in Turkey what has he done? with any team he has managed? i'm all for ousting of the big fat orange nose with giant white teeth, but a plain and banner?With rafa on it? Show some imagination and ambition for the club! couldn't you spell KLOPP! lol.

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03 May 2015 02:11:01
They may not have been able to spell Klopp, but I bet they could spell Plane.

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03 May 2015 04:16:51
They lost all credibility when they said BR out and Rafa in.

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03 May 2015 06:45:39
Rodgers doesn't compare to Rafa.Rafa has won trophies with Valencia, Liverpool, Inter, Chelsea, and Napoli. He has taken a team to 8 European semi finals out of a possible 12.I am not in the Rafa must come back brigade, but he's a better manager than Rodgers and that's a fact.

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03 May 2015 08:52:55
Perhaps it wasn't even LFC fans? And the Glazers funded the stunt. Mind blown!

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{Ed002's Note - It is this obsession with blaming someone else that makes you look so stupid.}

03 May 2015 10:37:34
I'm not sure Rafa would be the answer but anyone seriously saying BR is a better manager than him is seriously deluded. Proven winner at all the club's he has managed.

If you gave me a straight choice between the two Rafael wins every single time

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03 May 2015 15:54:50
Ed002, redmansam was only joking around. He obviously knows it wasn't the glazers, he was making a sarcastic comparison about when United had their banner.

Did I really have to explain this? :s

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{Ed002's Note - You want to try that excuse every time a Liverpool supporter says how hard doe by the club is and it is always someone else's fault.}

03 May 2015 00:40:50
So just saw the United result. Does anybody actually want 4th place?

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03 May 2015 01:59:01
Yes, but part of me fears it would save BR's job.

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03 May 2015 04:17:27
i really doubt it would save BR's job.

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03 May 2015 04:18:14
Good one, Lambert. As much as I want 4th, I'm afraid he might keep his job and then we will have to deal with his BS on and of the field. I'm torn, tbh.

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03 May 2015 04:54:27
He will likely get the sack regardless anyway now.

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03 May 2015 06:34:53
4th will not save his job, have you seen what both Ed002 and Ed002 have been saying? They're not often wrong and they keep saying that BR has broken promises to the owners, wasted horrendous amounts of money and made all the business public in press conferences.

I don't think the signings we've made under BR have been that bad, just the enormous out-lay a few aside they've all been fairly reasonable. Lallana, Markovic, Sakho, Lovren, Moreno and a few others(forgive me it's 6:30am) have all shown glimpses of being "good enough". Some have been mismanaged, some have been unlucky with injuries and some have taken longer to settle. There is no denying that they have ability, as they showed it at their previous clubs.

I think it's best we part with Rodgers personally. He gave us one hell of a ride last season, but I think this season he's been found out as some people say.

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03 May 2015 09:31:56
Top 4 will not happened and even if some miracle happenes and we finish top4 it will not affect BR's future becase he is staying anyway. hsf, ED002 said here few days ago he doesn't know if BR is going, but think he should.

Everyday BR stays in the job make it more certain he will stay. If they don't want him, what is the point of waiting?

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{Ed002's Note - I think he should as well - whether or not that happens remains in the balance. It is critical to think what is best for the club - and that is what the owners, and critically Michael Gordon and his advisors, will be doing.}

03 May 2015 10:29:53
There is little point in changing now, we have 3 games left and the remit will be to get as many points as possible. Come the end of the seasons I'm sure the discussions will be had ( and m hoping they are sounding people out on the meantime)

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03 May 2015 13:36:07
Hearing him talk over the last couple weeks, he seems confident he'll still be here next season. Seems like he's getting his way anyway with the moves for Ings and Milner. Another season of mediocrity beckons.

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03 May 2015 19:21:12
Not really, Amit. He is pandering and posturing in the media because he knows the chop may be coming hence, he is mouthing off in the media in a bid to keep a poor excuse of credibility he thinks he has in order to look good when he gets the chop like the self serving politician he is.

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03 May 2015 19:30:28
Yep, Michael Gordon is the Man, he is an investor, and a financial adviser, and I quote. "He runs Liverpool, " one industry source said. "He's the point person [among FSG owners] for the people in Liverpool. If it wasn't for him, it wouldn't function."

http://goo.gl/XU9dl0

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03 May 2015 00:14:23
Fairplay to rafa!! that little banner stunt really has got the fans talking!!! Good god I for one do hope we don't go back near him again!!

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03 May 2015 04:22:33
The owner are smart. They won't hire a complete control freak and a failure who contributed to our almost going bust due to his ego and dreadful record in the TW. He hasn't won a league title since 2004 and all he has won are Cups. We need to win the PL and not another trophy we have won many times over. He ain't coming back and should stay away from our club.

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03 May 2015 09:07:06
First of all you have no clue what you are talking about. It is even ridiculous to believe a manager single handedly almost made the club go bust.
The previous owners bought a club with a huge debt that they never could have paid. Then they wanted to make another debt to repay the already huge debt.
Benitez was a manager who wanted to win titles. It wasn't his mismanagement that destroyed the club. They picked the wrong owners and Rafa was at the right place at the wrong time.

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03 May 2015 22:34:32
If you cannot read, I will help you, Pirate. I used the word "contributed" hence, how is that a simile for the word "singlehanded"? The debt you speak of was also due IN PART, to his dreadful spending record and ballooning of the wage bill under his watch. He was a control freak and a failure in the PL because he had the PL in his grasp and threw it away due to his arrogance and allowing Fergie to get into his head, just like BR's arrogance led to us losing the PL last year. And even the Ed01 has confirmed this so if you want him back, you'll be disappointed because if they tried bringing back a legend in KK and that blew up in their faces so that mistake isn't happening again. Get it? Good!

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04 May 2015 08:07:08
In order to make a club win titles you need to spend, something we couldn't do previously. We didn't have the luxury because we were buying players on debt. Benitez contributed but not in the degree you believe he did. The biggest problem were the owners. They were the wrong owners even before they bought us.
I'm not going to discuss it anymore because you simply can't face the truth and you have no clue about it. One team wins the league ONE, not two or three. You keep on asking for every managers head you will never win the league. Benitez in the mean time won you the CL with an average team, several cups and was constantly the powerhouse in Europe. This in just 5-6 years. Without the financial power of the top clubs around the world.
And one last time KK and Benitez are not the same stop comparing uneven situations.

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