Liverpool Banter Archive March 03 2011

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03 Mar 2011 23:50:17
Sorry mate but i don't think Aurelio can bomb forward. I personally don't think he has the pace to play at wing back so i wouldn't be surprised if we played the 4-3-2-1.

Stu. {Ed001's Note - Isn't Aurelio injured.}

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Last I heard Aurelio, Agger and Meireles were all due to return to training by Friday. We're in big trouble in Aurelio and Agger are injured.
Ed? Anyone, any news? {Ed005's Note - Last I heard was Clarke saying the could be fit.}

03 Mar 2011 23:26:22
Hi, re pepe, i really don't know what all the fuss is about, to me in my youth a goalie was someone that no bugger wanted to play for them like at school, remember kes, when the two biggest lads picked the team and you were last, they are wannabe footballers that couldnt run or kick a ball, my how that has all changed, if we get a good back 4 and midfeild and the strikers we have, we should be too busy scoring at the other end to worry about whos in goal, with a good team we should be able to stick a chimp in goal and it would do a job for us, just a thought i know i, ll get a new one torn out of me but what the hell, its ok saying pepe did this and that but with a good defense they would not be in a position to need pepe,

03 Mar 2011 23:10:18
That Suarez turn against West ham to set up Johnson made me smile. Reminded me of early Torres days. I think an unexperienced Utd. defence could be in for a hard time.

03 Mar 2011 22:54:38
03 Mar 2011 21:16:21
Ohh i hope that Carrol plays vs United the idea of Suarez - Carroll Vs Smalling and Evans is beautiful -Mc

evans aint playing and smalling played against better strikers than carroll and was great so carroll won't worry anyone

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But each of those times he had Vidic beside him to mop up the mistakes he made (which were a very regular occurrence), this time he'll either be partnered by Evans (ref: WHU 4 - 0 MUFC) or Brown (for lack of a better term, LOL). He'll be torn limb from limb, Carroll or no Carroll.

Though, I do agree he is the true replacement for Ferdinand; gives away a penalty, loses a game for his team, then parties all night long (for no particular reason) before being kicked out of his accommodation for causing domestic disturbance.

Martin

03 Mar 2011 22:55:01
Johnson and Aurelio can bomb forward and whip in crosses for Carroll if needs be and Suarez, Meireles and Gerrard can whip balls in too. With Carroll, this game is winnable for us. As long as he is at least a sub and plays a good 15-30mins he could be deadly in this game.

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Sorry mate but i don't think Aurelio can bomb forward. I personally don't think he has the pace to play at wing back so i wouldn't be surprised if we played the 4-3-2-1.

Stu. {Ed001's Note - Isn't Aurelio injured.}

03 Mar 2011 22:50:24
Hey guys.
I think we should START Andy Carroll this weekend. Here are my reasons:
1) Man.Ure have no Vidic, no Evans and no Ferdinand as big leading figures at central defence, leaving Smalling with either Brown or O'Shea as their central defensive parntership. Carroll would easily beat any of those guys to any header and can hold it up against them easily enough. Without the experience of Man.ure's 3 best CB's, Smalling won't have a leading figure to guide him through the match very well at all.
2) He needs match fitness after not playing since December.
3) He has time to recover from the match after it if he feels tired or tense as we don't have another Premier League game for 2 weeks after this one and we don't really NEED him all that much for the 2 games against Braga in the Europa League in those 2 weeks. We can live without him and still win over the two legs against thm without him so he can have a 2 weeks rest after the Man.Ure game.

Here is the team I'd play on Sunday, provided Meireles, Agger and Aurelio are all fit as expected:

Reina
Johnson Carragher Skrtel Agger Aurelio
Meireles Lucas Gerrard
Suarez
Carroll

Johnson and Aurelio can bomb forward and whip in crosses for Carroll if needs be and Suarez, Meireles and Gerrard can whip balls in too. With Carroll, this game is winnable for us. As long as he is at least a sub and plays a good 15-30mins he could be deadly in this game.

YNWA!

03 Mar 2011 22:45:47
Ed just wondering do you know who ajax bought in to replace suarez? ? {Ed001's Note - I don't remember them buying anyone, I think the deal was concluded too late for them to do much.}

03 Mar 2011 22:29:46
That Ganso looks bloody good, show the lad to John W Henry I say

03 Mar 2011 22:25:42
Instead of banning fergie the FA should open wembley and charge a £1 entrance fee, and £1 a smack. They would make millions.

LAVERS

03 Mar 2011 22:10:40
Ed who wud u have replac reina if he was to leave {Ed002's Note - This question was answeed much earlier today - search on Adler.}

03 Mar 2011 21:55:26
RE: Crystal Meth, Tevez has been dealing it to all the players

Is this why Man city beat liverpool earlier in the season when liverpool had mighty javier mascherano

What? {Ed001's Note - it was a joke someone posted earlier mate.}

03 Mar 2011 21:56:03
As I understand it, currently only 5th place secures European football. However if a side wins the FA Cup that has already secured their place elsewhere (i.e. Any side finishing in the top 5 in the Premiership or Birmingham through the League Cup) then 6th place will be good enough for the Europa League.

Basically we need to hope one of the top 4/ 5 wins the FA Cup.

Lets forget about qualification for the Europa League. Too many games and distraction from domestic competition. I would not be sad if we finished 7th so that we can be concentrate on getting top 4 next year and qualifying for 2012 champions league. We can see that the players are tiring and a break from Europe will not do the club any harm as long as the players are focussed on their target of TOP 4

03 Mar 2011 21:54:07
Is this why Man city beat liverpool earlier in the season when liverpool had mighty javier mascherano

He did not play. he went on strike. .

03 Mar 2011 21:51:21
To? And, what do you think about Craig Gordon as a possible Craig Gordon as a possible replacement? Fairly young, Scottish no. 1, good keeper - your thoughts? replacement? Fairly young, Scottish no. 1, good keeper
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Id make this a decent replacement for reina. Young, good shot stopper, yeah he lacks command of area but that often comes with experience.
Should be cheap too. Much much better than Robinson.
As I said earlier though if reina goes (which. I sure he is) then muslera is on his way in. Recommended by suarez.
Rewflo

God is watching

03 Mar 2011 21:48:18
RE: Crystal Meth, Tevez has been dealing it to all the players

Is this why Man city beat liverpool earlier in the season when liverpool had mighty javier mascherano

03 Mar 2011 21:43:01
Kolo Toure has been suspended after testing positive for a specified substance.

does any1 knw what? was itsteriod or coke?

Crystal Meth, Tevez has been dealing it to all the players to top his wages up

03 Mar 2011 21:39:07
03 Mar 2011 21:00:56
03 Mar 2011 17:33:44
RE:Why do we need another striker when we have Daniel Pacheco

Well we need a Carrol replacement. Someone with Power and Strength. Maybe Size. Some big player to play upfront. Maybe a Heskey or carlton Cole.
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ha laughed me head off at this, i think we should try and sign a class striker like voronin or someone
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We couldn't go wrong with this team spot the odd one out! ;-)

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Degan - - Palette - - Pelligrino - - Dossena

Nunez - - Gerrard - - Antwi - - Gonzalez

Vornin - - Nemeth

Subs: Cavalieri, Leto, Josemi, Kromkamp, Kacaniklic,

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Let's just re-sign Senior Morientes. . .
Or Djime Traore/ Salif Diao, and whack them upfront instead?
Alternatively, we could always bring back 'the convict' AKA Jermaine Pennant.
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03 Mar 2011 21:40:23
Hey ed , great site just want to ask ur humble opnion if u agree with me on what players we need , with regards to the wingers mata and young is not the ideal solutions as i like mata but he won't create much width he suits playing behind the forward.Sanchez, turan and adam johnson is what we need.lastly ever banega classy midfielder , guys let me know your views {Ed001's Note - all good players but none likely to come unfortunately.}

03 Mar 2011 21:40:39
Ed, just wondering, it, s obvious that a left back is priority in the summer and two names which have come up frequently are Baines and Fabio C. i know Fabio is a far more internationaly recognized name but price for quality, who would you rather have? {Ed001's Note - Baines, he is far better defensively.}

03 Mar 2011 21:37:46
i think that the best replacement for pepe reina is maarten stekelenburg as he is experienced and not that old.
what do you think ed? {Ed001's Note - certainly one of the better keepers around at the moment, I would prefer Neuer, Asenjo, De Gea or Adler myself.}

03 Mar 2011 21:37:51
Re: Is this the same person that recommended Cole a few days ago?

Keep laughing, but 4th choice strikers will find it difficult to get game time. The best Liverpool can hope for is a squad player. Benzema is not likely to waste his life sitting on cold Liverpool bench. Can you people grow up.

03 Mar 2011 21:33:20
Suffolk'n Red, as for your point about Ferguson.

What he needs is a punch right in the face.

The bloke gets away with murder. Although, I'm tempted to suggest a points deduction of some fashion. . That'll piss on his fireworks.

sonic.

03 Mar 2011 21:33:44
Andy Carroll to get his 1st game in the Mighty red shirt against the Scum girls on Sunday. I mentioned 3 weeks ago - Andy Carroll for a goal scoring debut against Man U.

King Kenny to rain SUPREME - YOULL NEVER WALK ALONE! !

03 Mar 2011 21:33:59
We need andy! For the games agaisnt lower opposition his size and power is so useful to assert some authority on games like that Suarez is getting there and ngog is w**k

03 Mar 2011 21:15:26
VORINON IS A FAILURE! LOL

03 Mar 2011 21:16:21
Ohh i hope that Carrol plays vs United the idea of Suarez - Carroll Vs Smalling and Evans is beautiful -Mc

evans aint playing and smalling played against better strikers than carroll and was great so carroll won't worry anyone

03 Mar 2011 21:31:27
Kolo Toure has been suspended after testing positive for a specified substance.

does any1 knw what? was itsteriod or coke?

03 Mar 2011 21:00:56
03 Mar 2011 17:33:44
RE:Why do we need another striker when we have Daniel Pacheco

Well we need a Carrol replacement. Someone with Power and Strength. Maybe Size. Some big player to play upfront. Maybe a Heskey or carlton Cole.
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ha laughed me head off at this, i think we should try and sign a class striker like voronin or someone
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We couldn't go wrong with this team spot the odd one out! ;-)

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Degan - - Palette - - Pelligrino - - Dossena

Nunez - - Gerrard - - Antwi - - Gonzalez

Vornin - - Nemeth

Subs: Cavalieri, Leto, Josemi, Kromkamp, Kacaniklic,

03 Mar 2011 20:52:57
As for Robinson, why go after him when theres an unhappy better goal keeper sitting on City's bench who'd be brilliant for us,

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Is that the 36 year old with a dodgy shoulder? It's hardly the future is it?

03 Mar 2011 20:47:34
Ed.i think we need to buy 4 players that are the best in there positions a left back, defensive mid and 2 wingers plus 2 good squad players. i think f. conntreau l.b m'vila d.m lavezzi or sanchez and turan or hazard what do you think. all young all very good all can play different positions that could help for changing formations.plus they will all score goals maybe not m'vila but he's d.m after all. squad players should be a young good c.b and young striker. what do you think ed. do you think there would be any chance of these players.
red budd. . . . {Ed001's Note - the only likely one of those that you have picked out is M'Vila.}

03 Mar 2011 20:44:01
03 Mar 2011 19:46:15
The left back liverpool are looking at has only been mentioned but the once and that player is beniot assou ekotto with baines going to spurs! also another spurs switch could be hutton or corluka as rumour has it (and a strong one at that) that micah richards will ask for a move to spurs!

You have got to be having a laugh, 3 of the worst defenders in the league and while Spurs are getting top quality fullbacks like Baines and Richards, we're getting the crappy leftovers. No thanks. Ed, do you believe this? However i would take Hutton as backup as he is good going forward tbf

{Ed002's Note - No, I very much doubt any of it is true.}

03 Mar 2011 20:17:55
Ohh i hope that Carrol plays vs United the idea of Suarez - Carroll Vs Smalling and Evans is beautiful -Mc (not jay Mc or anyone else the original)

03 Mar 2011 20:04:27
If we signed Izaguirre from celtic then the 5-3-2 formation would work perfect.Get Izaguirre playin left wingback and Johnson right wingback.Martin Kelly, carraghar ad agger the center backs.Gerrard, Meireles and Adam the center mids and suarez and Carroll u front.Drop Kuyt.
Probably won't happen but decent team.We should also sign Demba cisse of freiburg as a sub.

03 Mar 2011 20:05:53
Hi ed, do you think that if carrol is able to play on sunday, he will be in the starting 11 or brought on as a sub, THANKYOU

LFC_ALL_DAY {Ed001's Note - I think the likelihood of him starting increased massively the moment Vidic got banned. I am leaning towards him starting, I think that is the most likely thing, but you can never tell with KK in charge.}

03 Mar 2011 19:37:44
If all fit this would be my line up for the weekend

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Kelly- - Carragher- -Agger- - Aurelio

Johnson- -Gerrard- -Meireles- - Maxi

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03 Mar 2011 19:39:01
I know this is from Wiki, but I've no reason to really dispute it - is it just me or is Ferguson simply taking to piss out of the Football Association the man deserves a trully significant ban without any suspension. The I can dispute his acheivement - sadly I wish I could but I'm more decent than that, but the attitute of the man to the FA and the BBC simply stinks. . The sooner he retires the better for football as a whole.

20 October 2003 - Two match touchline ban and fined £10,000 after using abusive and/ or insulting words towards Fourth Official Jeff Winter.

14 December 2007 - Two match touchline ban and fined £5,000 after using abusive and/ or insulting words towards Mark Clattenburg.

18 November 2008 - Two match touchline ban and fined £10,000 after confronting Mike Dean after a game

12 November 2009 - Four match touchline ban (two suspended) and fined £20,000 for comments made about the fitness of Alan Wiley

Seems he missed out on 2010, or was it that the FA knew that the next time they had to meat out a hefty response or look feeble.

Pass him a 10 match touchline ban - til' end of the season, he's earned it!

Any suggestions for the length of ban from you lot? ?

Suffolk'n Red

03 Mar 2011 19:20:39
Just said on ts, k traore suspended from all comps for a positive test for banned substance, where will that leave s**tty/

03 Mar 2011 18:48:20
I think macca is so sure about young Adam and benzema because they where supposed to be signed in January.marveuax has been to anfield already so no surprise there.also Carroll was to be a target in the summer even if the bitch stayed.my point is I would expect us to sign a least two or three players more than the Ones listed with ffp rules allowing 15 million a season for the first three seasons which can be spent in one window if a club so desires.on top of that we will have available money from sales and revenue having to balance our books in three seasons time.so expect a good summer for us John w Henry wants to win the league by 2013 and to do that he knows he has to speculate to accumulate

KISS THE BADGE YNWA

03 Mar 2011 18:37:50
03 Mar 2011 17:33:44
RE:Why do we need another striker when we have Daniel Pacheco

Well we need a Carrol replacement. Someone with Power and Strength. Maybe Size. Some big player to play upfront. Maybe a Heskey or carlton Cole.
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ha laughed me head off at this, i think we should try and sign a class striker like voronin or someone

03 Mar 2011 18:32:36
Editor is there any way you could summarise or outline the difference in tax systems between spain and england and how that effects the players. the european football journalist from the bbc refuses to help me for my dissertation and i know you guys are as helpful as can be:)
cheers, ynwa {Ed002's Note - I would be happy to help but certainly do not have time to do so right now. If it is a dissertation you should really be doing your own research in any case. You may wish to include "43%" in any searches - which I am sure will narrow down your quest to relevant information.}

03 Mar 2011 18:15:53
Benzema, Adam, Young, M'Vila, Enrique, Marveaux and Payet/ Griezmann will sign, please post this

I agree with this post in the fact that we will sign a left back, 2 midfielders an out and out striker and 3 supportstrikers/ wingers this summer. whether the players named are correct well have to wait and see

03 Mar 2011 17:47:57
RE:Why do we need another striker when we have Daniel Pacheco

Well we need a Carrol replacement. Someone with Power and Strength. Maybe Size. Some big player to play upfront. Maybe a Heskey or carlton Cole.

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are you crazy? no where near Liverpool quality. My choice would be Wickham, he's nearly in the same mold as Carroll. He'll just need some more development.

03 Mar 2011 17:49:21
03 Mar 2011 17:33:44
RE:Why do we need another striker when we have Daniel Pacheco

Well we need a Carrol replacement. Someone with Power and Strength. Maybe Size. Some big player to play upfront. Maybe a Heskey or carlton Cole.

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Is this the same person that reccomended Cole a few days ago?
I'd rather put Carra up front than play with either of those players, or play with 9 men.

Martin

03 Mar 2011 17:27:17
Hi ed,
Would love to hear what you and the fellow fans think.In my opinion would it not be better from here till the end of the season.Give the young lads a run in the team to give them some experience(which money can't buy?
Were not going to make top 4, and it won't do us much good traveling to eastern europe in july for the europa cup.Will just cause us injuries and playing for a prize fund that will barely cover the traveling expenses.Would it not be better to bed the young lads in now while there's nothing much to play for.This would give them an undoubted advantage for next year.And give KK and Camoli a better picture for the summer in the transfer market.

AL {Ed002's Note - It rather depends how many of the youngsters you are suggesting. Most of the better talents are simply too young for first team football at present. It would also run the risk of the FA suggesting that Liverpool are deliberately playing weakened teams - that would very quickly result in a points deduction. It would also likely PO the first team players who are no longer getting a game. Crowds would undoubtedly be down causing a loss in revenue and less transfer funds, and dropping down the league would mean it would be much more difficult to attract players in the summer. All in all I am not convinced this is a great plan.}

03 Mar 2011 17:27:57
All these Liverpool fans desperately dreaming of the Europa league next season; dependent on who wins the FA Cup. How the mighty have fallen.

Champions League dreams they have gone, they are now just a distant memory of better days and of better teams.
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ha if ee don't get into Europe it could well be a blessing in disguise.
While the other teams are in Europe we can concentrate on the league.
Rest assured my friend we will be back up there next season.

LAVERS

03 Mar 2011 17:09:38
03 Mar 2011 10:23:31
Why do we need another striker when we have Daniel Pacheco that man is going to be world class don't understand why Ngog gets the nod in front on him can someone please tell me think in the summer we should spend the money on a decent winger, left back, Holding mid as there the postions were weakest and

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We not allowed to think. Just have to support the losers and never question Kenny or his tactics - or so some fans think.

The Lucas issue amuses me. Obviously there is a split in opinions between LFC supporters. Strange I have never known a supporter from another club that rates Lucas either - most I know mock him too. Could that be a deal breaker?

As for Carra bashing. i only bash when his ego comes out during games shouting at other players. His total lack of any football skill I have accpeted years ago. Guess in 5 years Lucas will not get mocked anymore either.

My opinion on Pacheco. Too small for CF in England, Not quick enough to play out wide. perhaps can play just behind Carroll when he plays. But there we have Suarez. I have never rated Pacheco as some do. Suso & Sterling on the other hand. .

03 Mar 2011 17:13:37
"03 Mar 2011 16:57:30
Hi eds do you think there will be an I phone app by the summer id pay a fiver for it"

{Ed002's Note - I understand, from my reliable sources, that there are no plans to implement such a utility at this time. Sorry.}

03 Mar 2011 16:58:54
03 Mar 2011 16:50:31
A lot of people saying we need a centre back, but do we really. .?
With the likes of Carragher, Agger, Skrtel and kyriakos who is rumoured to sign a contract extension. And with even Wilson, Kelly and Ayala are naturaly CB's, it looks like the only position where we don't need strenghtning.
Our areas of concern are Left Back, Winger, winger/ striker, and a CM to replace Poulson.
My pick,
- Coentrao
- Young/ Sanchez. 1st choice is Adam Johnson But that's not gonna happen.
- Bojan
- Adam

Harry5:)YNWA

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Exactly my point mate, A. Johnson and sanchez would be my first choice, so if we have a spare 30mill for one of these plus enough to stenthen other areas then sweet, if not, Young would be more than acceptable for 12 mill plus change to spend on other areas.

03 Mar 2011 17:05:03
Hi ed, why do the buttons not seem to register the clicks?

{Ed002's Note - No doubt they are under maintenance.}

03 Mar 2011 17:05:56
All these Liverpool fans desperately dreaming of the Europa league next season; dependent on who wins the FA Cup. How the mighty have fallen.
Champions League dreams they have gone, they are now just a distant memory of better days and of better teams.

03 Mar 2011 16:57:30
Hi eds do you think there will be an I phone app by the summer id pay a fiver for it {Ed002's Note - I'll find out for you.}

03 Mar 2011 16:55:05
People will always differ on opinions of players, but I believe Young would be a good signing too.

Here are some stats. .

Young, 2010-11. . .

Played: 29
Scored: 8
Assists: 8

(All competitions)

CAREER TOTAL:

Played: 290
Scored: 59
Assists: 70

Make of this what you will but it is also clear that he is a box to box player and WILL create many golas foe LFC! !

03 Mar 2011 16:55:50
Do you even watch any matches
Kelly, Spearing, wilson, Shelvey.he uses the younsters that are ready, its a huge step up from reserve football to the most demanding league in the world.when suzo and sterling are ready we will see them play.

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Thanks guys for your input. . you all have a valid point. i just felt like pacheco never has the chance to proof himself. . in the games liverpool were up or in reverse when there down is there any harm in trying pacheco . . pacheco has the speed we need

but i understand that they really need some more intregation in the team and thanks for all of your input. .

Dont hate me i was just seeing things , but seeing other points of view is always a good thing

diO.

03 Mar 2011 16:50:31
A lot of people saying we need a centre back, but do we really. .?
With the likes of Carragher, Agger, Skrtel and kyriakos who is rumoured to sign a contract extension. And with even Wilson, Kelly and Ayala are naturaly CB's, it looks like the only position where we don't need strenghtning.
Our areas of concern are Left Back, Winger, winger/ striker, and a CM to replace Poulson.
My pick,
- Coentrao
- Young/ Sanchez. 1st choice is Adam Johnson But that's not gonna happen.
- Bojan
- Adam

Harry5:)YNWA

03 Mar 2011 16:44:57
You're obviously clueless, mate. It's a well known fact outside of England that English players are rubbish. There have been a few exceptions in the past decade (Gerrard, Terry, A Cole and at times Ferdinand), but all your Rooneys, Youngs, Robinsons, Greens, Milners, etc., wouldn't make the bench at Real Madrid or Barcelona. Noticed how every English player that has gone abroad has completely flopped?

Mata is twice the player Young is. It's not an opinion, it's common sense.

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PMSL, clueless? I have sat on the kop for the last 11 years MATE, and we all know that what our club needs is pacy wingers who defencers hate to play against.

As I said before, Young still has improvements to make, but in terms of value for money, I would much rather risk 10mill on young then hope Mata survives crunching tackles against the likes of Stoce, bolton ect. . .

03 Mar 2011 16:32:45
Here i comes with some facts,
Liverpool hasn't have great wingers because we are not allowed to so. Because we doesn't have great Defenders. CARRA has been decline, Skrtel is too inconsitent, Agger is often injured and also we have some unproven Defenders. And so we have to place to Kuyt in Team as he will aid in Defense. With this set of Defenders we have, Liverpool has to play with 3-5-2 formation in our Attack and we can't play our wingers in this set up, as we know that this formation needs Players in the Wingback position has to Defend.
If we need to place 4-3-3 formation with Caroll up front and Suarez and a winger in flanks we may attack. But, our defense is still Bad it will be a huge risk. If we need Wingers in our line up we also need a Quality defender and also a Defensive Midfielder. TWO wingers are also needed. And also Quality left back and we have to bring Insua back as back-up for Left back position. We may also use Glen Johnson in Wings. All we need is Defensive cover that will boost our attacks.
Indian Red

03 Mar 2011 16:41:10
03 Mar 2011 16:12:24
To this guy:

And what makes you think that mata will settle and produce the goods for us? he was no where near as good as silva and silva hasnt exactly lit the premier league alight has he.

Young is an englishman, you know what you will get out of him, goals, assists and pace.

Mata would be a flop


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Oh so Young has set the PL alight this season then has he?!. Just cus Young is english does not mean he's actually any good. Any way how can you predict that Mata would be a flop?.

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Young has been in a team going through a transitional perioud, just like us, but he has still shown his ability all season.

Silva has been hit and miss, and is a far better player than mata.

Silva is small, but mata is smaller. Mata doesn't have much pace, ok he can twist and turn, but i would put my mortgage on him rolling on the floor after every rough tackle or mid air nudge he feels.

Young isn't huge, but he gets up after being crunched.

Also, if it didn't work out with young, we would easily recoup our money on re selling, its a known fact that all foreigners who join english teams and fail, end up being re sold for at most half the price origanally paid for.

I was a fan of mata, but I wouldn't say he is worth the money Valencia have turned us down for before.

Young would cost 10-12 mill, mata 15-20.

Young would be MUCH better value for money, and I am a lot more confident Young would bring more to the club in terms of goals assists ect. .

Also, as I said I do think Mata has ability, but Valencia has been a selling club for many years now, how comes all their other top assets are now gone yet mata remains unwanted by any other club? Silva, Villa, Zigic, and their best CB (cant remember his name, but he joined R. Madrid) have all gone?

Young might not be the best option out there, but he is certainly worth a punt in my opinion.

He is the kind of player our club has lacked for years.

Talking of other possible wingers. I really like milner, Johnson and even bentley.

The facts are simple, in Carrol we have a CF who needs constant delivery, young will produce that in abundments as well as pace to scare the life out of defenders, as does milner and johnson, but unfortunately I believe milner and johnson are now out of our price range.

Leaving Young as the top candidate, again, in MY opinion.

There are players who you just know by watching regularly will do well in england, and sadly Mata doesn't look like he is one of them. Silva looked like he had it, but he isn't really proving it is he?

Would you honestly rather us spend 15-20mil on Mata and then spend the next 12 months slaggin him of, or spend 25mill on turan and young?

03 Mar 2011 16:25:15
And what makes you think that mata will settle and produce the goods for us? he was no where near as good as silva and silva hasnt exactly lit the premier league alight has he.

Young is an englishman, you know what you will get out of him, goals, assists and pace.

Mata would be a flop

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You're obviously clueless, mate. It's a well known fact outside of England that English players are rubbish. There have been a few exceptions in the past decade (Gerrard, Terry, A Cole and at times Ferdinand), but all your Rooneys, Youngs, Robinsons, Greens, Milners, etc., wouldn't make the bench at Real Madrid or Barcelona. Noticed how every English player that has gone abroad has completely flopped?

Mata is twice the player Young is. It's not an opinion, it's common sense.

03 Mar 2011 16:12:24
To this guy:

And what makes you think that mata will settle and produce the goods for us? he was no where near as good as silva and silva hasnt exactly lit the premier league alight has he.

Young is an englishman, you know what you will get out of him, goals, assists and pace.

Mata would be a flop


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Oh so Young has set the PL alight this season then has he?!. Just cus Young is english does not mean he's actually any good. Any way how can you predict that Mata would be a flop?.

03 Mar 2011 16:12:29
If reina was to leave in the summer. why not sign Craig Gordon

03 Mar 2011 15:31:52
03 Mar 2011 14:41:09
To be honest i hope Macca is wrong with his prediction. Adam would be the only one i would have. I haven't seen Marveaux to comment but the likes of Young and Benzema haven't done anything to justify buying them in my opinion. I agree with the lad who said if Chelsea buy Sanchez and we buy Young, how are we going to rise above them?. We need to have quality in the squad and have players that will strike fear into our opponents. The likes of Mata etc, not Young.

And what makes you think that mata will settle and produce the goods for us? he was no where near as good as silva and silva hasnt exactly lit the premier league alight has he.

Young is an englishman, you know what you will get out of him, goals, assists and pace.

Mata would be a flop

03 Mar 2011 15:12:01
03 Mar 2011 14:58:18
Editors I hope yesterdays post about Saurez being unsettled was a spoof. {Ed001's Note - I am sure it was.}
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Thanks. I was worried perhaps he might use his family as the reason he could be unsettled like Mascherano conveniently did.
I suppose if you have poor English and the club put you in a large house on the Wirral i suppose it could be quite hard. I hope carragher, Gerrard and the Management will be helping Saurez and his family settle. After all the Spanish influence at the club is not what it was.

03 Mar 2011 15:12:11
As I understand it, currently only 5th place secures European football. However if a side wins the FA Cup that has already secured their place elsewhere (i.e. Any side finishing in the top 5 in the Premiership or Birmingham through the League Cup) then 6th place will be good enough for the Europa League.


Basically we need to hope one of the top 4/ 5 wins the FA Cup.
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I think we can be pretty confident in one of the teams in the top 4 winning the league.
Also on the keeping Cole and maxi for cover is rather we sold Cole to save on wages, cus I don't think he will get back his old form.

LAVERS

03 Mar 2011 15:02:32
"16.27% likely to happen."
Cor , the things you can work out with a slide rule a calculator and a rumour! Modern technology at it's best :0

03 Mar 2011 14:53:43
European places Birmingham have one so how does this affect Liverpool chances. lol at queen kenny the papers are going to use that monday morning

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As I understand it, currently only 5th place secures European football. However if a side wins the FA Cup that has already secured their place elsewhere (i.e. Any side finishing in the top 5 in the Premiership or Birmingham through the League Cup) then 6th place will be good enough for the Europa League.

Basically we need to hope one of the top 4/ 5 wins the FA Cup.

The Booter

03 Mar 2011 14:41:09
To be honest i hope Macca is wrong with his prediction. Adam would be the only one i would have. I haven't seen Marveaux to comment but the likes of Young and Benzema haven't done anything to justify buying them in my opinion. I agree with the lad who said if Chelsea buy Sanchez and we buy Young, how are we going to rise above them?. We need to have quality in the squad and have players that will strike fear into our opponents. The likes of Mata etc, not Young.

The Crow

03 Mar 2011 14:43:08
Ed' do us all a favour and rule out the clearly obvious manc planks, it's trully pointless - if you want to have a wind up go on your own forum and do it there, come on I mean, referee! Play fair! !

Lets see who's laughing when Arsenal win the league! !

Suffolk'n Red

{Ed002's Note - Most of the fans of other sides who post to the Liverpool Banter are doing it simply because folks have gone to their pages and posted nonsense. Thou shalt reap what thou sows.}

03 Mar 2011 14:37:48
I'm becoming fed up of listening to some of the posts on here, crying that we need PACY wingers, yet Ashley Young isn't good enough?

Ok, he still has a little improvement to make, but he is deadly at set pieces, has a terrifc right foot on him, scores plenty of goals for a midfielder, and I feel he would be a real asset to our club, not forgetting the problems he has caused so many defenders in the league.

At 10-12 mill he would be a real top purchase, but I would like us to sign Arda Turan also. You would then have young, turan, maxi and cole competing for places, maybe marveaux too, which in that case wouldn't mind losing maxi.

Our current wide men arnt great, but if they were to be used as squad players they still have the ability to create so I wouldn't just sell for the sake of it, keep until the next window and then maybe replace.

The fact is, to sell maxi and cole, and replace them with 2 players is madness, as one injury leaves us looking vulnerable again, so we should keep all midfielders and use as squad players.

We need a new CB, would love Micah Richards, and also a LB, not sure who, there isn't too many that excite me, I would personally prefer johnson to stay left back with kelly on the right, but we do need cover.

Also, another CF is needed, Benzema is an option but depends on the supposed stipulation in his request, to gaurentee first team football. You have to earn the right to wear our shirt, so although I think a front 3 of Suarez, Carrol, Benzema sounds lethal, it has to be for the right reason.

We can make do with a signing like Cisse if we don't get benzema, again as a back up striker. He scores all kinds of different goals and I do think he has potential to do well in england.

So, I feel if we sign Young, Turan, Marveaux, Richards, a LB and Cisse, we have a side that can win the title under kenny and clarke's guidance.

Whether we have the money to achieve these signing is a different matter. But I certainly wouldn't sell maxi and cole to generate funds, as I said before that leaves us with not many options on the bench, which is a problem we have had for far too long now.

LFC Till I Die

03 Mar 2011 14:38:56
Any idea on how babel is doing at Hoffenheim

03 Mar 2011 14:21:14
Personally i think we should look to some german players in summer upto the physicality of the epl etc

Podolski
Mertesacker
Neuer (if reina leaves)

Podolski on the left of a front three and mertesacker alongside agger could be decent

03 Mar 2011 14:18:23
European places Birmingham have one so how does this affect Liverpool chances. lol at queen kenny the papers are going to use that monday morning

03 Mar 2011 14:15:10
Queen Kenny'e bubbles truely burst. Your squad has more holes than a Tetley tea bag and then he buys a £35M on an player that's had less than 20 games at the this level: madness no more than a wonder slug, a fat wonder slug at that.
I really thought Kenny Dalglish was the answer for our problems but he isnt


There all coming out today. Is there day release at the nutters house in manchester of have they got there first pc to play with.
go somewhere else please

03 Mar 2011 13:55:17
Queen Kenny'e bubbles truely burst. Your squad has more holes than a Tetley tea bag and then he buys a £35M on an player that's had less than 20 games at the this level: madness no more than a wonder slug, a fat wonder slug at that.
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Come on pal no need to get jealous, just cus you don't have that sort of cash. You don't have to worry you have got the next big thing in bebe. Atleast you didn't have to spend a lot on him, so your better off aren't you.
Also I can think of a certain fatter green slug u have.

LAVERS

03 Mar 2011 13:34:54
Queen Kenny'e bubbles truely burst. Your squad has more holes than a Tetley tea bag and then he buys a £35M on an player that's had less than 20 games at the this level: madness no more than a wonder slug, a fat wonder slug at that.

Talking of holes, the one which Vidic has left in your defence is hardly going to be filled by Brown is it?
Ouch

NorthWestBest

03 Mar 2011 13:26:41
Queen Kenny'e bubbles truely burst. Your squad has more holes than a Tetley tea bag and then he buys a £35M on an player that's had less than 20 games at the this level: madness no more than a wonder slug, a fat wonder slug at that.


Obviously a United supporter, if i was you mate i'd be more worried about your team than mine. United are a team on the demise.
How much did Hargreaves cost again, and Veron, and Carrick, i could go on but i have better things to do. Fool

Barry B

03 Mar 2011 13:20:12
Ed , Heres a question for you :
What would you say the chances out of 10 are that Carroll plays on Sunday? {Ed001's Note - now Vidic is out the chances have gone up, I would say 8 out of 10 chance he at least plays but 5 that he starts.}
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the chances are good then! i honestly think he will come on as a sub because then he will get a good reception from the crowd that will motivate him!
Another question ED who do you think will score first Andy Carroll or Fernando Torres ? {Ed002's Note - That is obviously not a question we can answer.}

03 Mar 2011 13:13:24
Hola.
To all those asking eds why we arent bidding for sanchez. The answer is simple. .Liverpool at present is a tough sell. I don't like admitting it but it is, we can't offer champs league football, nor can we next year.
We can't offer trophies, we can't even offer attractive football at minute. All we can offer is decent wages and a name which was worth something 7 years ago. We will be able to in 2-3 years time but right now we can only realistically aim for players which are good or promising, world class players will go where the trophies are. 3 years time they will come here, but name alone won't do it.

03 Mar 2011 13:15:21
03 Mar 2011 12:07:47
I'll take your word on it Ed but i don't rate the Italian teams or league anymore. For a league that has AC Milan the league leaders by 5 points just says it all really.
For me Sanchez looks like another Ricardo Quaresma and in my opinion the £25M could be spent on a better investment.

Barry B
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I agree mate that's why Inter won last seasons Champions League. Bloody rubbish those italian teams.

MUSHROOM

Yeah Mushroom Inter played well last year under Mourinho to win Champions League. But can you honestly say that the Italian league is what it used to be? Spurs beat AC Milan with their second team over in Italy for gods sake!

Barry B

03 Mar 2011 12:57:44
03 Mar 2011 12:23:19
How many of you are ready to wager your money on Carroll scoring his first goal for Liverpool before torres scores his first for chelsea? ?

It depends on Whether Carroll is fit for Sunday, because I think Torres will score at Blackpool on Monday night.

03 Mar 2011 13:01:22
We need to reclaim control of the midfield and dominate in 95% of the games we play. Kenny should at least attempt to persuade Xabi Alonso to return to the club that made him a house hold name.

The style of his play suggests that he should have another 3-4 good years of high quality left in him.

Yes we have to buy players below 25 but Alonso is the 1 player out there with proven quality that would slot in to the defensive midfield position immediately with ease.

He would control the tempo with his immense passing ability; give SG confidence in playing forward and Lucas a rest on the bench.

With Alonso, Gerrard and Meireles, we would once again have the best midfield in the league.

03 Mar 2011 13:02:57
Queen Kenny'e bubbles truely burst. Your squad has more holes than a Tetley tea bag and then he buys a £35M on an player that's had less than 20 games at the this level: madness no more than a wonder slug, a fat wonder slug at that.

03 Mar 2011 13:06:20
Ed , Heres a question for you :
What would you say the chances out of 10 are that Carroll plays on Sunday ? {Ed001's Note - now Vidic is out the chances have gone up, I would say 8 out of 10 chance he at least plays but 5 that he starts.}

03 Mar 2011 13:07:51
Got it on good authority that Andy Carroll is not settling in the area King kenny has asked the board for funds to sign Ronan Keating to help him settle

03 Mar 2011 13:08:07
I really thought Kenny Dalglish was the answer for our problems but he isnt. .
Sorry to say but liverpool need a better coach , a coach like jurgen klopp. . . We need a coach that isn't afraid to use youngsters. . Kenny only uses british youngsters. its getting annoying
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Jeez give KK a chance - less than 2 months and you want him to be throwing Suso and Sterling in at the deep end before he's even certain on his best 11. He's a lot more qualified, informed and experienced than you so let him do the job ffs

03 Mar 2011 13:11:24
I really thought Kenny Dalglish was the answer for our problems but he isnt. .
Sorry to say but liverpool need a better coach , a coach like jurgen klopp. . . We need a coach that isn't afraid to use youngsters. . Kenny only uses british youngsters. its getting annoying

Do you even watch any matches
Kelly, Spearing, wilson, Shelvey.he uses the younsters that are ready, its a huge step up from reserve football to the most demanding league in the world.when suzo and sterling are ready we will see them play.

03 Mar 2011 12:29:49
For anyone to rule out an entire League because we bought crap from there before is a bit silly. we have bought a lot of crap over the years and if we went on previous transfers we should be scared of france more than any other country. Moussa sissoko does look a player and there is talent there BUT. .Last time we bought a sissoko from france it didn't exactly work out. .
add to that list. pongolle, le tallec, Cheyrou, diouf, diao, Cisse, Ngog. .

Think the message is try not to buy crap. i hope commoli knows his stuff.

Second point Alexis Sanchez is one of the greatest talents in world football. .His attacking creativity will light up the prem just a pity it won't be for us.

03 Mar 2011 12:28:20
I really thought Kenny Dalglish was the answer for our problems but he isnt. .
Sorry to say but liverpool need a better coach , a coach like jurgen klopp. . . We need a coach that isn't afraid to use youngsters. . Kenny only uses british youngsters. its getting annoying

just go away and support someone else

03 Mar 2011 12:26:02
I really thought Kenny Dalglish was the answer for our problems but he isnt. .

Sorry to say but liverpool need a better coach , a coach like jurgen klopp. . . We need a coach that isn't afraid to use youngsters. . Kenny only uses british youngsters. its getting annoying


We lack pace on the wings , why not try some of our youngsters? Villa are doing so, Arsenal are doing so , Man u are doing so. . We still play boring football in my opinion. . when i see the likes of Villa , Man c , Chelsea , Man u , Arsenal , Tottenham i see better football and much more attacking.


Sorry but its not working for me. . We can blame our lack of depth , but we still have promising youngsters he could try =x


The only way to know if they can cut it is to try and give them a chance. .


diO.
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Since kenny came in Kelly got his chance and it resulted in him being 1st choice RB.
Most of the youngsters we have are British coady, sterling, ngoo.
So that only really leaves suso who is 16ish and silva.
So its not like there's a string of non British youngsters knocking on the 1st team door.
Villa are crap so it doesn't matter that they play youngsters there not winning anything.
Manure have a good squad so they tend to flatter the youngsters. Not many kids have actually left them and done anything.
So to sum it up I think your talking out of your anus.

LAVERS

03 Mar 2011 12:23:19
How many of you are ready to wager your money on Carroll scoring his first goal for Liverpool before torres scores his first for chelsea?? ?

03 Mar 2011 12:23:34
Is it just me ed or is charlie adam not good enough for LFC? When there was talk of him joining at £4m i thought he may be a good squad player at that price, but since then the hype around him has made him out to be a lot better than he is. Ed, is he better than what we have? {Ed002's Note - My opinion is that Liverpool could do a great deal better.}

03 Mar 2011 12:19:26
{Ed001's Note - are you for real? Sanchez has scored how many goals this season? 11 goals in 23 appearances! Not bad for a pony with no end product is it?}

That is good goal scoring form but the Italian league is shockingly poor. I'm sure he'll turn out brilliant for whoever signs him, sadly it won't be us until we can get champions league football.

03 Mar 2011 12:17:40
Just seen Rory Mcklroy leaving the Liverpool-Rumours HQ in Dubai. . so that's who macca is then!

03 Mar 2011 12:18:02
Mata will not be coming to Liverpool i am sick of hearing this and forget about Honda nobody at the club fancies him expect Young and Adam to be in the red shirt of Liverpool come August.

03 Mar 2011 12:17:04
03 Mar 2011 07:24:30
I have a question, why are everyone so down on young and adam. . .can we not give them a chance


if this site was running all those years ago when KK bought barnes, beardsley and houghton we would have been moaning then too. . well look have that turned out.

I can recall, when we bought barnsey. AND PEOPLE WERE SAYING NO HE ISN'T THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR LFC. the king know who and how average player turn to be great, Kenny is the bast in the business to see talent and get a team to play for each other. You can say he inherited the Liverpool success in 80 and had the the right men behind the scenes helping him ie paisley, and the rest. But he carried that onto Blackburn too from nothing and built title winning team. He brings players in that make the players play better, not players that want to play with a better player. No moreare the days of players wanting to come just to be in team along side Torres, , gerrard.he bring them in to play for the team. And not just for the glory of playing in same team of this player that player. Mister purple nose down the road learnt from Liverpool, x

03 Mar 2011 12:07:23
I also hopes that its not us putting in the bid for sanchez. Hes a lightweight trick phoney with no end product and won't be better than wot we have now.
We need players of effectiveness like downing, young, johnson. Sanchez good only for italian, portuguse leagues. So please, nuff of this sanchez clamour.
Also with the fair play rule being minimum requirement, do you clowns know we won't be able to add more foreign players with no eu passports or residents in last 3 years.
People are getting more stupid here is not even funny

bester {Ed001's Note - are you for real? Sanchez has scored how many goals this season? 11 goals in 23 appearances! Not bad for a pony with no end product is it?}

03 Mar 2011 12:07:47
I'll take your word on it Ed but i don't rate the Italian teams or league anymore. For a league that has AC Milan the league leaders by 5 points just says it all really.
For me Sanchez looks like another Ricardo Quaresma and in my opinion the £25M could be spent on a better investment.

Barry B
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I agree mate that's why Inter won last seasons Champions League. Bloody rubbish those italian teams.

MUSHROOM

03 Mar 2011 12:01:47
I really thought Kenny Dalglish was the answer for our problems but he isnt. .
Sorry to say but liverpool need a better coach , a coach like jurgen klopp. . . We need a coach that isn't afraid to use youngsters. . Kenny only uses british youngsters. its getting annoying

We lack pace on the wings , why not try some of our youngsters? Villa are doing so, Arsenal are doing so , Man u are doing so. . We still play boring football in my opinion. . when i see the likes of Villa , Man c , Chelsea , Man u , Arsenal , Tottenham i see better football and much more attacking.

Sorry but its not working for me. . We can blame our lack of depth , but we still have promising youngsters he could try =x

The only way to know if they can cut it is to try and give them a chance. .

diO.

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I think we all want to see some youngsters come through and I think they have a better chance of coming through under KK than most other managers particularly our last two. KK was in responsible for the signing of some the youngsters you are talking about. He also took the likes of sterling and ince (i think) away with the first team to prague so that they can start intergrating on and off the pitch with the current first team squad. When you move from the youth to the first team it can be daunting for youth as its kind of like going to a new job and all youre mates are left behind and you have got to start socialising and playing with a new team.

I think you can see from KK's use of Shevley and Kelly and his including of sterling and ince (who were on a half term break from school at the time) that KK has the youth very much in his mind. I have also heard that KK very much admires Pacheco, the only reason I think Ngog gets a look in above him is because he is different type of player and luckily for Ngog there is no one challanging him whilst any carroll and Sureaz are injured and unable to play due to being cup tied. KK is simply using what he has at his disposal. Weather he will get a chance to use Pacheco they way he wants i suppose depends on Pacheco and his willingness to stcik around and wait for his chance as there will be options from spain available to him.

Intrestingly Rodolfo Borrell said upon taking over the academy U18 that the youth was not up to scratch and that at best the youth players were three years away from first team football but with coaching and investment in some new players they were looking to improve drastically and decrease this estimated time scale. Judjing by who Rodolfo Borrell can be credited for coaching in his previous jobs you have to trust his judgement. In my opinion I think the greatest thing Rafa ever did for LFC is set a great youth system up and get Rodolfo Borrell in.

Bob Loblaw

03 Mar 2011 11:51:13
I just heard that Carrick and Giggs will be playing with a bad hair cuts, put Glen up against them with his new look, and we're on to a winner ; )

Mjr Hudton Tufton (rtd)

03 Mar 2011 11:44:37
I really thought Kenny Dalglish was the answer for our problems but he isnt. .
Sorry to say but liverpool need a better coach , a coach like jurgen klopp. . . We need a coach that isn't afraid to use youngsters. . Kenny only uses british youngsters. its getting annoying

Even Jesus, who was able to turn water into wine, wouldn't even attempt to turn crap into caviar!face it, it will be a long rebuilding process. we are not a top4 team at the mo - Kenny is the man for this job. no current top10 PL club is involving its younger player more than Liverpool. and stop putting forward names of managers for the sake of it.

03 Mar 2011 11:44:54
Carol
Suarez
Gerrard
Adam
Young
Kuyt
Johnson
Kelly
Agger
Carra/ Ayala
Reina ( praying )
Simple and will compete. All out attack. The Liverpool way.

03 Mar 2011 11:42:55
I just heard Evra will be playing with a bad knee on on sunday, i would test that knee out with the pass and skill of stirling and with vidic not playing Carrol would dominate in the air up front accompanied with Suerez doing his tricks and skill beside him.
man u will not know what hit them

red for life the Liverppol way.

03 Mar 2011 11:29:24
I really thought Kenny Dalglish was the answer for our problems but he isnt. .
Sorry to say but liverpool need a better coach , a coach like jurgen klopp. . . We need a coach that isn't afraid to use youngsters. . Kenny only uses british youngsters. its getting annoying

How can anyone be bringing Kenny down. He has totally changed our football. 2 months ago everyone was saying this squad carnt win a training match between them. Kenny has brought near maximin points. He has carol to come in, we were playing good football until the 2 week euro football and he had to change to football. To be honest I have expected the drop, before man ure. Watch come Sunday all will show on the pitch. Kenny has the class to bring the best out of any player. And concider the start of the season I think he has done wonders done wonders with what ge has. He carnt risk the young players just for the sake of giving them playing time, there is still a lot to play for this season. And he can only give youth a chance at right times, and right now isn't that time, Kenny knows what to do and he will do it his way and the best way.

03 Mar 2011 11:16:23
I really thought Kenny Dalglish was the answer for our problems but he isnt. .
Sorry to say but liverpool need a better coach , a coach like jurgen klopp. . . We need a coach that isn't afraid to use youngsters. . Kenny only uses british youngsters. its getting annoying

We lack pace on the wings , why not try some of our youngsters? Villa are doing so, Arsenal are doing so , Man u are doing so. . We still play boring football in my opinion. . when i see the likes of Villa , Man c , Chelsea , Man u , Arsenal , Tottenham i see better football and much more attacking.

Sorry but its not working for me. . We can blame our lack of depth , but we still have promising youngsters he could try =x

The only way to know if they can cut it is to try and give them a chance. .

diO.

03 Mar 2011 11:01:10
Ed i'm a little confused. Everyone talks about pacheco and his potential yet why have we not loaned him out. it can't be due to us having a striker shortage as we have Carroll, Suarez, Ngog, Kuyt and even Jovanovic! {Ed001's Note - if you send a player out on loan you can't work with him as closely to sort out problems that you are having. A player like him struggling to get in the side may even see it as an indication that you no longer want him and it can enhance the problems.}

03 Mar 2011 10:47:25
A lot of carra bashers on this weak at least they ar leaving lucas alone carra man of match in my eyes v chelsea and will be again v man. u one bad game by the( TEAM ) and every one is out for the kill. a good result on sunday and everyone will say how great we are. but we are not that good but not far away we can not win every game but if we win on sunday it give u us that feel good factor and keep all the crying liverpool (TEAM) bashers silent for the next defeat sorry for the rambel eds. red til i die

03 Mar 2011 10:29:51
{Ed001's Note - Sanchez is not like either, he is not overweight like Dossena and he is not an injury-prone weakling like Aqualani. You can't compare them, Sanchez has all the attributes needed to make it in the English league.}

To bad he's most likely going to our rivals. Who would you like more ed, the fantastic world class Ashley Young or the crap Sanchez. {Ed001's Note - Sanchez is a much better player in my opinion. It is not even closse.}

03 Mar 2011 10:23:31
Why do we need another striker when we have Daniel Pacheco that man is going to be world class don't understand why Ngog gets the nod in front on him can someone please tell me think in the summer we should spend the money on a decent winger, left back, Holding mid as there the postions were weakest and

03 Mar 2011 10:19:56
Hey people u need to understand that alexis anchez is a top player but he is a ball hog, and in the prem ball hogs get dealt with swiftly. instead of breaking the eds balls wit the sanchez talk think about solid players that would improve the squad not just be individuals my say , is fucile as lb turan on the wing and a palombo/ de rossi type mid
ed do uknow of any interest in proven (team) players?

{Ed002's Note - What we know is provided each day.}

It had on SSN this morning when i tuned in that Udinese have received a £25M bid from a un-named club for Alexis Sanchez, lets hope its not from us, at the moment the Italian League is poison! Look at our last two buys from Italia, Dossena & Aqualani. Enough said. .

Barry B {Ed001's Note - Sanchez is not like either, he is not overweight like Dossena and he is not an injury-prone weakling like Aqualani. You can't compare them, Sanchez has all the attributes needed to make it in the English league.}

03 Mar 2011 09:58:37
Did anyone watch the Valencia - Barca game last night? I was impressed with two players off Valencia, Ever Banega and Mathieu. Banega had a better game than the Barcelona midfield that included Xavi. He would be one player who i'd love to see at Liverpool as he is young and to my knowledge Valencia are still in financial trouble (maybe the Ed's could clear that up) so that could force there hand if we offered somewhere in the region of £15M. Mathieu looks steady too and he's a LB he could fill in that position.

I have been looking at a lot of the Bundesliga lately and i rate Steffan Keibling & Nuri Sahin. What do you think Ed?

Also i have seen the Benzema link pop up on this, although he is good on his day i wouldn't go for him, i'd be suprised if we bought another striker that cost over £10M+ and if we did i could see Suarez go out on the LW. If the Benzema link is true lets hope its a loan rather than a £20M+ transfer

Barry B {Ed002's Note - Banega would be a good buy and may be available. There would be interest from elsewhere, but as far as I know, Liverpool are not looking to make a move for him. I don't know anything of the other lad and Valencia, whilst not flushwith money, cannot have their hands forced by an envelope full of cash. Sahin is a very good player.}

03 Mar 2011 09:47:20
Did anyone see the Villareal v Hercules game last night? Rossi was very good. Apart from his goal (simple side foot past the goalie from through ball down the middle - well, he made it look simple), he played wide at times, showed really good ball control (enough to play a winger role if needed) and his technique was first class (example, volley of a high hanging ball from a tight angle into the ground forcing a good save), good work rate.

Does anyone else rate him? What's the chances of getting him in the summer? Why wouldn't we?

Grayswood

03 Mar 2011 09:17:45
Call me Mr Controversial but I think out of those 3 we should sell Stevie (12-15m), keep Carra as a squad player for when first choice defenders are injured, and keep Lucas. Buy a couple of new defenders and spend the Stevie money on someone like Banega who can contribute energy and drive and is younger). No-one is bigger than the club and all the nostalgists need to realise when players are past their best and when younger players need to replace them imo.

Mr Controversial
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So let me get this straight you want to keep carra, buy two more defenders and a defensive midfielder and leave maxi and kuyt on the wings! heaven help us, i bet your one of those fellas who shouts nothing but negative comments at the game, in fact u probably don't even go! .
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Ouch. A bit harsh. I never said we 'only' need 2 defenders and a def mid, just feel it's time for Stevie and Carra to make way for fresh blood. I'd keep Maxi and Kuyt as squad players too especially once we get Marveaux and Young. I don't go to the matches as Anfield is on the other side of the world from me (I was born in Southport though if that fits in with your narrow-minded view of what an LFC fan should be) and I get up at 3am once or twice a week to shout positive and negative comments at our boys on the TV. Please shove your ignorant assumptions about me where the sun don't shine. Thankyou

03 Mar 2011 07:50:48
Hey ed, I concur with your sentiments that Stevie should just go full-tilt until he is gased and has to come off. The one main issue I see with this though is the man himself. I cannot see him enjoying the idea of having to come off during a game (who could forget the derby from a few years back? If looks could kill!) I know Kenny is boss, but given he knows he is his best chance of winning games also, it would put him in a tricky spot given if Stevie was let off the leash, the Stevie of now cannot go full pace for 90 minutes. On the other hand though, he might also be our best chance of winning late also, which he cannot do if he is sitting on the bench. Very complex situation imo.

DownUnderRed.

03 Mar 2011 08:08:33
Did anyone see the Villareal v Hercules game last night? Rossi was very good. Apart from his goal (simple side foot past the goalie from through ball down the middle - well, he made it look simple), he played wide at times, showed really good ball control (enough to play a winger role if needed) and his technique was first class (example, volley of a high hanging ball from a tight angle into the ground forcing a good save), good work rate.

Does anyone else rate him? What's the chances of getting him in the summer?

Grayswood

03 Mar 2011 08:17:05
Hey my fellow reds, just had a thought i wanted to share with you, we should look at miguel valeso the portugese plays in italy serie A, perfect addition to our defence midfield playmaker spot rather than adam, valeso has a even better and strong left foot on him and can link play and spray balls around and can tackle as well, plus him and meireles run the centre midfield for portugal. What do you guys think?

03 Mar 2011 08:29:31
I'm bemused why pretty much everyone on here never thinks we need a right back as well? Personally I think our whole back line needs overhauling. Kelly has been great at RB but he is naturally a CB and I for one would love to see him there alongside Agger (as long as he can stay fit!). Move Johnson up to RM and support the centre backs with Carra, Wilson, Ayala and a new signing. We still need a LB as well. With Adam, Young, Marveaux and another striker we would have options and a pretty good starting eleven with support on the bench from young and old?
Iggypop

03 Mar 2011 07:10:25
Ed hav u hurd According to Aston Villa boss Gerard Houllier, after seeing what Chelsea did to United in the second half, Ashley turned to me and said:- "Boss, I want to play for Liverpool."

{Ed002's Note - Of course he didn't say any such thing.}

03 Mar 2011 07:24:30
I have a question, why are everyone so down on young and adam. . .can we not give them a chance


if this site was running all those years ago when KK bought barnes, beardsley and houghton we would have been moaning then too. . well look have that turned out.


we are liverpool football club and whoever pulls on that shirt should always get our support

03 Mar 2011 07:31:58
Hey people u need to understand that alexis anchez is a top player but he is a ball hog, and in the prem ball hogs get dealt with swiftly. instead of breaking the eds balls wit the sanchez talk think about solid players that would improve the squad not just be individuals my say , is fucile as lb turan on the wing and a palombo/ de rossi type mid
ed do uknow of any interest in proven (team) players?

{Ed002's Note - What we know is provided each day.}

03 Mar 2011 02:38:10
Call me Mr Controversial but I think out of those 3 we should sell Stevie (12-15m), keep Carra as a squad player for when first choice defenders are injured, and keep Lucas. Buy a couple of new defenders and spend the Stevie money on someone like Banega who can contribute energy and drive and is younger). No-one is bigger than the club and all the nostalgists need to realise when players are past their best and when younger players need to replace them imo.

Mr Controversial
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So let me get this straight you want to keep carra, buy two more defenders and a defensive midfielder and leave maxi and kuyt on the wings! heaven help us, i bet your one of those fellas who shouts nothing but negative comments at the game, in fact u probably don't even go! .
Jay Mc

03 Mar 2011 02:11:56
A lot of people seem skeptical about Adam & Young. I respect that everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I'm sure both men will prove to be worthy signings. Adam would replace alonso. The KOP will fall in love with them in time. Both have excellent work rate & heart aswell

03 Mar 2011 01:36:01
Gents, Try this one on for size. . . carra isn't good enough any more, the panic-smash it game is long dead and should be left to stoke players, gerrard hasnt been on the pace for two years, lucas isn't good enough if we want to progress, the young lads (kelly apart) are worthy of mid table championship teams! and we need at least four quality first team starters if we have any chance of getting in the top six next year, other teams will strenghten like they have done the last four years and comoli needs to earn his money and get us some stars the money is there but we need to get it right this time. . .Thoughts
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Call me Mr Controversial but I think out of those 3 we should sell Stevie (12-15m), keep Carra as a squad player for when first choice defenders are injured, and keep Lucas. Buy a couple of new defenders and spend the Stevie money on someone like Banega who can contribute energy and drive and is younger). No-one is bigger than the club and all the nostalgists need to realise when players are past their best and when younger players need to replace them imo.

Mr Controversial

03 Mar 2011 01:33:52
Ed, a bit long winded but I'd appreciate a reply to a few points.

I'm not a history expert on transfer windows, so I would like to know how often (if at all) there has been a mass turnover of players in a single window. Liverpool has a lot of deadwood and if we expect to be a title challenger (or top 4) then we need a clear out and a lot of new signings. In my opinion, the following players are good enough to be in a title winning squad (note SQUAD, not all of these players are good enough to be in the starting 11):

Suarez, Carroll, Kuyt, Gerrard, Johnson, Reina, Kelly, Agger, Carragher, Meireles, Lucas, Skrtel, Aquilani*

*if he can stay injury free and wants to return

Unproven but potential players who might be good enough in the future

Pacheco, Wilson, Shelvey, Coady, Sterling, Insua, Suso, Ayala

Players who have no business at LFC beyond this season:

Joe Cole, Kyrgiakos, Poulsen, Aurelio, Konchesky, Spearing, Ngog, Maxi, Jovanovic, El Zhar, Degen, Darby

So in my estimation we have 13 players definitely good enough to play for LFC in a title winning team & some very good but unproven younger players who probably won't be ready next season.

Have you ever seen 12 senior players leave a big club in a single transfer window? As I see it, the players I listed are not good enough, injury prone or too old. Do you think any of the players I listed as having no business here are actually good enough or have a place out our club?

I really hope now that we have new owners, Comolli, Kenny & a blossoming youth team we can clear out some players off the wage bill who simply won't win us trophy's. {Ed005's Note - In my life-time I've never seen so many first team players leave Liverpool. However, that shouldn't halt Dalglish from the possibility of doing that. Certain players are earing too much money and aren't good enough and under the ownership of Henry I don't think it will be an issue selling players who don't cut the grade. And every player you have mentioned as not good enough I would agree with, but I'd add Aquilani to that list.}

03 Mar 2011 01:03:09
Welcome back blair [ stan , very messi ] , did you watch the match sunday in spain and what did you think of KK men . similar this sunday i hope

03 Mar 2011 00:45:28
As I said the spine is very strong, I don't believe we need to go out and buy World class widemen but we need that type of player to stretch the game. Riera didn't exactly set the world on fire, but he had white on his boots and by having that type of player it created space for the other players.
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Gents, i can't believe what i am hearing from you mate, a left back who can get forward a left wing and a right wing are essential to our squad. what do you think eduardo?
Jay Mc

03 Mar 2011 00:23:51
I agree with you on the width but are telling me we should be playing kick-rush just because our centre forward is a monster? caroll is very good with the ball in to feet and with two attacking midfielders (suarez and hopefully not kuyt) we should be looking to play forward not hoof forward
Jay Mc

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Not at all, my point with Carra was I would rather have a CB 'hoof' it out and ask questions later.

I'm an eternal optimist I'm afraid. As devastating as it was to lose Torres, the prospect of Carroll and Suarez together makes me giddy like a school boy.

As I said the spine is very strong, I don't believe we need to go out and buy World class widemen but we need that type of player to stretch the game. Riera didn't exactly set the world on fire, but he had white on his boots and by having that type of player it created space for the other players.

The Booter

03 Mar 2011 00:25:50
Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed001's Note - Marveaux can play left back too mate.}
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I havn't seen him play Ed but i've read what you and some people have said about him. But can you honestly tell me that he is or could be our answer for LB? We need a natural one i.e Sissoko, Taiwo and there's a young kid i've watched play for Ath. Bilbao who has been very good. I can't remember his name but all the big clubs have been watching him all season. For me Marveaux is not the answer as LB. Now we've got strikers we have to get a natural LB asap mate, we've needed one for a while.

Blair Mayne YNWA

03 Mar 2011 00:00:03
Ps. I met Xabi Alonso in Marbella Ed. And he said is there any chance of you paying that score you owe him? {Ed001's Note - we wanted to make it easier for you lot to tell us apart and it also makes it easier for us to set up automated features for ourselves. Ps I am pretty sure he is the one that owes me! Oh and Macca said Adam, Young, Marveaux and Benzema.}
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Fair enough Young, Adam and Marveaux (who we went for in January) but Benzema? If your out their Macca or get a chance to read this. Tell your source we'd rather have Wickham, Canales or Llorente than Benzema. Benzema for me is lazy, sulky and is going to cost BIG money. So why not spend 10-15 mill on Wickham and Canales, or 25-30 mill on Llorente?

If Kenny is going for these players, then i'm convinced he will play 4-3-3. And for me than means a front 3 of Young, Suarez and Carroll. So their will be no room for Benzema in our starting 11, and will have to make do with a place on the bench. This Benzema thing dosn't make sense to me. Why pay 25-30 mill on anyone who isn't going to be our 1st choice striker. If we are going to spend this kind of money on anyone, then it has to be another winger or left back.

One last thing Macca why oh why our we not going for a left back?? ?

Blair Mayne YNWA {Ed001's Note - Marveaux can play left back too mate.}