Liverpool Banter Archive June 03 2017

03 Jun 2017 23:42:58
Understand people might not think we need vvd or need positions more than a cb what I loathe about this is why on earth offer player x amount to then change and lo ball the player? Did fsg not think he would say yes to us and agree to city deal so can say well we was in for vvd but he wanted x amount of money that only city would match? Bit wrong me thinks.

I could even understand if they said right we have a wage structure in place here, we can offer this amount but you coming to a club you could be loved and play every week and maybe sell the club to him. If he rejects us then and moves to Chelsea or city yes I understand lfc fans would be pissed but at least there was reason and can say we wanted him we have a wage structure in place here and maybe he was after more money.

Don't mess around, offer one amount let him agree then shaft him. If all above is true I wouldn't even negotiate with lfc anymore, I would move somewhere else.
Rant over.

04 Jun 2017 01:12:24
Sounds like we entered into negotiations initiated by their camp and to me it looks like they were demanding basically a ransom fee for his services. So for a player in a position that we were told by the eds that we're not looking at players for, we have done exactly the right thing. For a player that was desperate to come to us it's is amazingly convenient that he has now gone to the highest bidder. Would love to hear this confirmed by the eds but to me it just sounds like the agents was doing his job and shopping his commodity for the highest price. Presumably van diik will now fall into a state of depression because he can't play for us, and will now slump his shoulders and reluctantly play for city.

04 Jun 2017 06:08:02
How can anyone blame FSG here. We have a wage structure and have stuck to our guns. Van dijk and his agent must be having a laugh if they think were going to break our wage structure.

03 Jun 2017 23:14:39
Looks like Vvd has signed for city, 60 million, abit guttered we missed out but that's ridiculous money. He's done nothing to warrant that price tag.

04 Jun 2017 00:49:33
Not gutted at all. I think we have other priorities for our budget.

04 Jun 2017 01:25:12
We conceded 42 goals this season despite having an excellent last 6 matches defensively. What are our other priorities that you talk of Andy?

04 Jun 2017 04:42:26
Agree Andy. I would prefer two 30m fullbacks to a 60m centreback. They should be the immediate priorities.

04 Jun 2017 05:31:23
We do not need quantity but quality. I would rather 1 VVD than 2 Sakho. A team can only field 11 players and each one of those need to be quality.
I would love us to go for Koulibaly. Better than VVD in my opinion.

03 Jun 2017 21:36:46
Vvd would be a great signing if we can do it, him and matip could be the partnership we need and lovren as backup.

I also agree that ox is bad business as I think grujic should be given a chance to play MF next season along with Can Hendo Wini Lucas and Milner so for me he is not needed.

As for wingers I would be happy with the addition of salah as an extra option and he is obviously talented.

Up front the young lad solanke will be going to the u23 I assume so I think we will be on the lookout for a starting striker, all seems quiet on luan and I never saw him play so I'm not too sure on that, maybe coutihno and firmino will offer advice as to how good he is.

In summary I'd be happy with:
Vvd
Salah
Mendy
Starting Striker.

03 Jun 2017 22:39:25
He's gone to City £60m 200k p/ w.

03 Jun 2017 22:42:58
Van Dijk is going to City. They'll pay the fee and not mess him around on the wages. We ballsed it up again with our dithering messing the player around. We are suspect at centre half and anyone thinking differently is deluding themselves as Matip aside we lack any quality. Knowing us we'll go and waste money on one of Gibson/ Keane/ Maguire who are woeful.

03 Jun 2017 22:54:02
I'd be gutted if we didn't replace Clyne tbh.

03 Jun 2017 23:08:39
You don't win titles with a weak spine. We have a weak spine.

03 Jun 2017 23:24:38
Now go get mendy, perieria and salah.

Job done for next season.

03 Jun 2017 23:33:19
£60m and £200k a week. we just can't compete with that. It's quite worrying that everyone around us seemingly can.

03 Jun 2017 23:42:41
Van Dijk is 100% not worth £60m and £200k a week, rather us move on at that price. Would get Koulibaly for half that. Probably get Varane for less. Far too overpriced. Not even the best cb in the prem.

03 Jun 2017 23:45:56
Two full backs and a winger will put right last seasons failings Supermane? We can't have been watching the same team at all.

03 Jun 2017 23:50:33
Sorry frankly, we weren't looking at a CB until his agent threw him at us with these wage demands. Can you not see a mercenary when you see one? Would you prefee that Edwards bent over and paid what is basically a random fee for a player in a position we weren't looking at and isn't worth that much anyway?

04 Jun 2017 00:06:45
Frankly, you echo my thoughts on our defensive situation as you've probably read on here.

04 Jun 2017 00:26:24
Mendy is probably going to Man City as well while we have made no efforts seemingly to move for Perreira.

03 Jun 2017 20:34:44
Why do fans think salah would be a good signing? 40 million to compete with Mane? He's a right winger. I'm reading comments online of people drooling over his potential signing saying him and mane will light up the wings. Salah will be playing out of position then if he's playing on the left which is absurd . He's nowhere near as effective playing on the left because he loves to cut in and shoot with his left foot.

Also he's been playing well in a slow below average Italian league. He struggled In England before to settle in I believe?

It's a strange potential signing. We have positions that need serious improvement. I didn't believe we needed any attackers in with reguards to who was available.
A left winger if possible but brandt doesn't look like happening so signing Salah makes little sense to me.

Our wing play will improve to no ends regardless of manes absence if we address right and left back. Defenders who can defend and get forward and exploit the space. Milner needs seriously competition and Clyne needs replaced with the replacement fighting with young Arnold for game time.

03 Jun 2017 20:41:09
Hmm but you were against Wijnaldum and Mane signing last summer too Big Al so.? 😉.

03 Jun 2017 20:49:25
Mané can play on the left, so if salah were to move I reckon klopp wants to play salah on right. Winger needed because we were ineffective against low block teams, so we need pace to penetrate. We will probably drop coutinho in midfield because he is an excellent distributer. Just my opinion but think a great signing.

03 Jun 2017 20:58:41
Personally I'm fed up of right wingers and I'm hoping the rest of the country is too. Make June the end of May! Oh what you mean a footballer? Fairly sure salah could swap sides and be atleast as effective. Plus the thought might be the play mane as a striker to get him more central? No idea personally but klopp knows better than me and big al. Strong and stable my arse.

03 Jun 2017 21:04:36
Salah will be a great addition to the squad. Plenty of games next season so he is a good but expensive buy. If mane is unavailable it does make sense.
I assumed sturridge was staying. That's looking unlikely atm.
I was NEVER against mane signing. I said he had an attitude that worried me and thought he was expensive. His price looks like nothing now with today's market.
I'm still unconvinced with wijnaldim. Though he hasn't been anything special he had a solid season as a whole.

03 Jun 2017 21:19:48
Lallana played left forward when we signed him. Milner played right wing. Wijnaldum played left midfield. Mane played left wing. Firmino played attacking midfield. Sturridge (barely) played right forward. Henderson played right midfield. Can played left back. Origi played left forward. Coutinho played attacking midfield.

So please explain why you believe a players position at their previous club has any bearing on how we will use them?

Maybe Salah will be used on the left, just like how Mane was switched by Klopp to the right. Or maybe Mane will go back to his overall career preferred position on the left to make room for Salah on the right? Who knows.

Their really is no point in worrying over how we will line up. Klopp picks the players to fit how he wants to play. If you think we will break our transfer record and with the intention of putting Salah on the bench, then you are beyond saving!

03 Jun 2017 21:22:49
Full of cheer big al.

03 Jun 2017 21:26:55
thinking about how we played last season, i think its going to be a fluid front 3, or front 2 really Al.

atleast that's how i see it, i would think either mane or salah would be able to play on either side.

03 Jun 2017 21:37:45
I agree with Tadders on this one.

Mane has had success playing on the left side at times in seasons gone by, in the same way you're saying Salah is effective cutting in from the right. Who knows what Klopp's thinking.

Yes he was here with Chelsea a couple of seasons back, but just bear in mind his age. he's still only 24 now, its not that unbelievable that a player that didn't settle well and, at only 21/ 22 at the time, didn't set the league alight. I think you're being overly critical if those are your expectations. You're making the Italian league out to be far poorer than it is. Plenty of decent defences in the Serie A.

Al, you were definitely super negative with Wijnaldum at the time, as were a lot of us, not sure about Mane but if puzzled's right that wouldn't be an odd thing either, plenty of us were unsure of that too. You have to argue in this regard that we've got to give Klopp the benefit of the doubt i reckon. I know he made a couple of stinkers, mainly with Caulker and potentially Klavan. but the majority of the bigger signings he's got them right and its not like he's had bad success previously in the transfer market. He's made some remarkably astute buys and he's shown he's clearly a good coach in terms of development.

In terms of the fullbacks let's just wait until we've got some rock solid proof/ bids in place before panicking. Still early days yet surely.

03 Jun 2017 21:39:40
I think mendy, keita and van dijk are top drawer players squizza who we've shown interest in. Van dijk looking the only one likely from them. Mendy is a massive disappointment. He should have been ours.
Salahs a good player.
Robertsons a poor player, ox is a waste of any amount of money.

03 Jun 2017 21:40:50
Do you watch us play l? Left wing right wing centre forward whatever they're just starting positions the players rotates all over the place.

03 Jun 2017 21:46:15
No problem with big al expressing his concern, its what these pages are for. But i disagree, he can he a very good addition to the squad. I also agree with mk, i can see mane playing on the left with is having two inverted wingers. Just have to wait and see what klopp plans for him really, if he signs.

03 Jun 2017 21:49:53
Salah on the right and mane on the left. Different games, different opposition, different options ay lad.

03 Jun 2017 22:11:38
Anyone notice how poor we were without any pace when Mane was out through injury or AFCON? Because it stuck out a mile.

03 Jun 2017 22:35:11
We need to sign Kieta!

03 Jun 2017 22:51:11
I feel having the 2 mane and salah a left and right footed they can switch it up all the time and be a nightmare to defend against wether they cut in to shoot sting foot or take it outside and cross whilst on other side it's exiting prospect to our already top scoring front line.

03 Jun 2017 22:53:16
Everyone does realise Salah is Left footed don't they?

03 Jun 2017 18:53:56
Some interesting news from macca and eds as always
Personal opinion not big fan of vvd especially with cost.
Not hear to talk about that though more about grujic would like to see him involved more don't get the sudden interest in Alex oxlaide chamberlain who is a failed winger wanting be a cm. Milner was good winger who got old became bad winger who wanted be a cm, square pegs round holes why not use a player we own who actually plays that position. Ps Milner had good season at lb not knocking him.

03 Jun 2017 18:19:45
Hello eds hope your are fine. Wanted to know about DW. Now that huddersfield are promoted is it likely he will sign with them permanently? and oh great lord i pray to thee anyone but VVD.

{Ed001's Note - it is more likely he will go on loan for the season as the club don't want to sell him right now. It will be up to the lad himself though, as there is no point keeping an unhappy player.}

03 Jun 2017 14:45:51
@Superman

You're trying to tell us Emre Can is average and should be sold to Juventus?

Funny how Champions League finalists would want an average player who's no good? 🤔

You're entitled to your opinion of course but I think you're way, way off!

Give Emre a new deal. Consistent is key! Let's not sell and change where we don't need to. Evolution not revolution.

03 Jun 2017 14:52:05
His deal will probably see the end of Henderson. The lad wants to be the first choice when fit.

03 Jun 2017 14:58:57
Doesn't every player Second coming?
Healthy competition bud 👍.

03 Jun 2017 15:06:45
Healthy Competition - Yes
But the lad doesn't want to sit on the bench when fit. It's shame as it's nothing to do with money and only regular game time. If so Hendo will have to start from the bench!

03 Jun 2017 15:26:58
The second coming is a quality album btw.

03 Jun 2017 15:33:57
There's enough room for both!

Frankly in Hendersons current state id by surprised if he'll be laying back to back games - meaning Can will get plenty of ga.

03 Jun 2017 15:36:07
Nah puzzled red, supermane must know more that juventus who are notoriously excellent in the transfer market. The guy is deluded. I'd suggest watching another sport or else just open your eyes next time we're playing.

03 Jun 2017 15:36:14
I don't think it's that simple - horses for courses (ie some games where we need more physicality may mean both play together) and rotation should mean Can and Hendo both get plenty of games.

I suspect what Can may be worried about is if we bring in Keita. then he'd need to be worried as extremely difficult to keep them all happy (and Gini, Lallana etc. )

03 Jun 2017 16:04:41
Can's contract stalled way before we had any interest in Keita. Can wants to play as a defensive midfielder while Keita plays elsewhere.

03 Jun 2017 16:10:17
Klopp rates him and so does Allegri. I am sure both fantastic coaches know more about a Can's qualities as a player than any random fan. Just give Can what he wants. If he has asked for a regular first team berth, then give it to him.

03 Jun 2017 16:15:11
Didnt say he was no good. Just nothing specual and 25 mil would be great for us.

Be wohldnt take anythung to replace

Did nothing all season until 1 over head kick and you all fell in love.

25 mil for him and 16 mil for oxlade would be superb.

03 Jun 2017 16:47:08
So Supermane thinks it will be good business to replace Can (our only real option at the base of midfield apart from an injury prone Hendo) with a bang average journeyman in OX who doe snot even know what his bets position is in his mid twenties. Thank God your influence is nowhere near the club mate. There will be riots if Can is replaced with OX.

03 Jun 2017 16:43:50
Lol how is Ox better than Can @Supermane?
Can atleast possess some attributes. Ox has nothing.

03 Jun 2017 17:33:59
I think the reported £25 million is pretty cheap in todays market, if its true.

03 Jun 2017 17:58:01
Can has only one year left on his contract so all you haters better hope he signs a new deal or we will be getting nothing like the £25m you want. Honestly, what happened to supporting our players?

03 Jun 2017 14:34:04
Why can't we put in a bid for Bertrand? Best LB in the league. Excellent going forward and equally defensively. First team player and massive upgrade on Milner. He will jump a chance to play in CL. Wouldn't cost a bomb either.

03 Jun 2017 15:30:31
Agree that we should go for him, but I don't think he'll come cheap.

03 Jun 2017 15:47:38
A lot less than Mendy and far better than championship players.

03 Jun 2017 17:34:23
Considering how much Soton are demanding for VVD, I don't you'd get Bertrand for "a lot less" than the price Monaco are demanding for Mendy. It's a slightly pointless argument anyway - I think we can both agree that that's the level of player we should be aiming for rather than the likes of Robertson.

03 Jun 2017 17:47:38
TQ
Money becomes irrelevant here as it's a position we need immediate attention. I wouldn't mind spending £25 mill on a quality player that is assured for next 5 years.

03 Jun 2017 18:13:27
I'll be honest I've only watched Bertrand play international football for England and it is not a good way to judge players really.

I'd have to take your words on it if he is "the best left back in the league" or not.

Better than Azpili, Alonso, Rose?

03 Jun 2017 22:05:27
I agree bertrand would make an excellent addition, when are we going to officialy make southampton our feeder club, or poach their chief scout!

03 Jun 2017 13:46:19
Eds. You must be getting bored of simular questions so im sorry in advance but is Ox seen as a CM an alternative to Kieta or not related?

{Ed001's Note - not a clue.}

03 Jun 2017 14:24:29
Alternative - Yes
We are in the market for one CM, let's hope it's Keita and none else.

03 Jun 2017 14:35:30
Mendy, salah, all sales and potentislly keita.

Ox is just another number.

03 Jun 2017 14:54:15
Keita will make people forget Kante. If we don't sign him this summer He will end up at Barcelona or Bayern next summer.

03 Jun 2017 15:23:26
If we are getting a centre midfielder make it a top class one like Keita, not a half arsed effort like Oxlade who isn't a centre midfielder and never will be one. Simply because he doesn't have the intelligence, skills or physical attributes to play there.

03 Jun 2017 13:46:10
I had a look at Salah's season goals, assists etc on youtube and seems to have improved since leaving Chelsea. I do not watch Serie A as it is like watching paint dry so had to go onto youtube unfortunately.

Now with him maybe coming back to the EPL. will he be able to deliver the same as what he has in Italy? That is what does not make me overly confident.

One thing I can say is Mane super quick. From what I saw, it looks like Salah is quicker?

03 Jun 2017 14:08:50
Can't see no reason why you wouldn't perform, got all the attributes and think he would thrive and flourish playing under klopp and our system. Produced well in the champions league aswell.

03 Jun 2017 14:27:29
Salah is faster than light. Seria A will improve tremendous over the next two years. Napoli, Juventus, both Milan clubs, Lazio and Roma.

03 Jun 2017 14:38:18
Salah. Has only improve yesr on year for goals and assists.

He scored a little less last year but still double figures. His only dissapointing yesr was with chelsea.

But they did have willian and hazard both on fire on the flanks.

03 Jun 2017 14:47:09
My worry about Salah (and please tell me if I'm wrong here), is that he's a 25 year old pace player. So is his game going to drop in a few years when he loses his pace? Or will he play more central and rely on his technique?

03 Jun 2017 14:57:06
Adam

No He doesn't unless he learn that way. I tried to say this further down and I was abused. I watch the Italian league regularly. Salah is like any other winger with blistering pace and goals. If you have seen Rachid Ghezal play you ll forget about Salah.

04 Jun 2017 07:31:23
ghezal is awful compared to salah, get a clue.

03 Jun 2017 12:09:48
Now that Salah is done, can we go back for Arda Turan 😉.

03 Jun 2017 12:43:11
Its not done yet.

03 Jun 2017 13:44:00
Where does it say that he's done.

03 Jun 2017 12:01:47
With all these names flying about i have a couple of questions for the eds opinions on some of the players.

Firstly, brandt v salah. Personally i thought that salah would be the better option because he is a very pacy player and pace is what we lack in the wide areas, another mane if you will. He is also far more mature and seems to be adding consistency to his game now, and has come back from a career damaging move to chelsea to mature as a player. So how does everyone think he stacks up against brandt? Our transfer policy so far has been to buy players in their mid 20's with more experience and maturity, and it has worked excellently when we have done this. Is brandt just potential, or is he ready now? Is he better than salah, is he even what we need?

Secondly id just like to know the eds opinion on left back and centre back and who you feel are the best realistic options for each position. Again i'd like to see us take the route of buying players in their mid 20's who are more mature. I don't think van dijk can be worth anywhere near the money, he just seems to be an overhyped modern day defender who will not fix our problems. I'd personally like to see us get a steady left back like bertrand or hector, and a proper premier league centre back like gibson.

{Ed001's Note - this is all stuff I have answered a number of times. I have not seen much of Brandt, certainly not enough to judge him or compare him with Salah.

Mendy is the best option for left back. Not sure about centre back, not sure there is one in the Prem I would go for to be honest. Though Gibson is the best of them.}

03 Jun 2017 12:31:18
I agree with ed001 we would be far better looking outside of england for defensive signings. Would love Manolas or Tah not seen if we are interested though. I feel VVD would not improve us as he does not concentrate fully and goes forward without thinking which woukd be bad for us. At Southampton they are set up more not to concede with 2 defensive midfielders whereas we are all about attacking leaving space in behind.

03 Jun 2017 12:54:49
VVD has all the tools to become the best CB in the league. Pace, power and He is excellent on the ball. He will bench Lovren for lifetime. He is terrific in the air. The player picked liverpool of all the biggies that were the queue. How often you see a big name player picks our club out from Chelsea and City?

03 Jun 2017 13:49:28
I think van dijk is serious quality. Klopp will have him fully focused.

03 Jun 2017 14:04:06
Thanks ed. Salah and mendy all day for me. Thatll do.

Signing mendy means milner can now add cover all over thr patk.

Signing salah means we now have coutijo in the middle so

Can, hendo, coutinho, wij, milner, grujic, lallana, firmino can play 10. Well stocked.

Even lucas, stewart can do a job in the earlier cuo runs.

03 Jun 2017 14:15:25
If mendy or a quality left back had have signed id have pushed Milner to right back.

03 Jun 2017 09:42:35
We're doing ok in regards to the homegrown quote rule, right? We had 13 foreign players over 21 this season.

Origi and Grujic are no longer U21 so they will add to the 18 non-homegrown allowed.

Manninger is hanging up the gloves, that gets us to 14.

We could then go on a shopping spree, adding VVD, Salah, Keita and a foreign LB without getting into trouble with the FA, right? Or more moderately valued players.

After that it's sell one to buy one if I'm doing my math properly.

03 Jun 2017 11:04:34
Moreno and Lucas out and Pereira and Luan in. Plus Ox is homegrown.

03 Jun 2017 11:25:10
If it's Robertson it's not foreign.

03 Jun 2017 12:19:11
Plus it only applies to players under 21 and they don't need to be registered so we are fine.

03 Jun 2017 08:48:06
Quick queation for the eds sorry if its been asked before. With the money (transfer/ wages) being touted for players going up and up do you see it going full circle and teams going back to relying more heavily on acadamy players. it can't keep going the rate its at. can't say i see that as a bad thing either! Or is it just an endless money pot for the big boys. Sound la.

{Ed002's Note - The English sides and a few elsewhere have a lot more money to spend than most. This won't change.}

03 Jun 2017 10:06:07
If you play academy players against a side playing 50mln players in each position you have limited chance of winning. Nothing's going to be achieved by that I'm afraid, if anything the gap is getting wider and harder to bridge.

Look at Reals squad if you want to laugh.
Bale - Benzema - Ronaldo
Kroos - Casemiro - Modric
Carvajal - Ramos - Nacho - Marcelo
Navas

And even then on the bench there's Varane, Rodriguez, Ascensio, morata, kovacic, Isco.

03 Jun 2017 08:21:22
Really looking forward to next season. Havnt seen so much talent coming through the youths like this for a very long time with Wilson, Woodburn, ejaria, Arnold Trent the one am looking forward to seeing more also ward stepping up hopefully at Huddersfield for 1 more year.

03 Jun 2017 09:13:41
I'm not so sure the youth is that great? With the exception of taa I'd say I haven't seen much yet. For me Woodburn hasn't really shown much to expire in the few appearances he has made, a bait he is very young but I'm not so sure on him. I hope he lives up to the billing as it would be great to have a home grown star again. What's people's thoughts on him? Cheers.

03 Jun 2017 10:14:33
TAA is an outstanding talent IMO, as is Woodburn (just younger so a year or two behind) . Ejaria I personally think has the goods too.

Wilson and Ojo are up for debate IMO - Wilson has looked a class apart in u23 but he's looked the most out of place at senior level. Ojo has been hampered by Injury and needs to get back up to speed again fast.

I think the most likely to make it is actually probably the one who gets the most game time - you can't step up to PL standard by playing 15mins cameos every 3 months, you need to get proper time on the pitch with the senior players for a prolonged period and that's the hardest thing to offer them.

03 Jun 2017 08:13:29
Good Morning all. Two questions Eds, please. Firstly, I listened to a radio show where it was suggested that the game is now seeing fullbacks as almost the most important position. But still the most important is a proper 25-30 goal striker. Spurs seem to have these three areas covered RB, LB and Kane.

Second. Which in your opinion is the most important position we need to strengthen this summer. I could see TAA becoming a top RB and hope he's given that chance.

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - In answer to the first it is formation dependent - so there is no easy answer. In answer to the second, a proper left winger would be top of my list if it were down to me. Liverpool are a very good side and the left is perhaps a bit of a struggle, Brandt would be a step change if they can sort him out.

The kiddie TAA is well tjought of and does not seem out of his depth - should get more opportunities going forward.}

03 Jun 2017 09:05:16
Cheers 002. Do you any clue as to the Brandt issue? I understand he is/ was no.1 priority, is definitely a player Klopp wants and as he plays in an area we need plus a decent transfer fee, surely he'd have played. So what assurances is it that has stopped this? Do players ask to be played regardless of form, fitness etc? Was that's what he was asking for a guarantee regardless? Does he have that currently.

03 Jun 2017 09:05:16
Cheers 002. Do you any clue as to the Brandt issue? I understand he is/ was no.1 priority, is definitely a player Klopp wants and as he plays in an area we need plus a decent transfer fee, surely he'd have played. So what assurances is it that has stopped this? Do players ask to be played regardless of form, fitness etc? Was that's what he was asking for a guarantee regardless? Does he have that currently.

{Ed002's Note - As I understand it, the situation is he wants an assurance he won't be starting from the bench. The asking price is also right up there, but Klopp does have the Klippertys for him.}

03 Jun 2017 11:16:03
So Brandt could well still happrn. Even with Salah arriving?

03 Jun 2017 11:37:06
Ed002. Hi ed. So Brandt is not completely dead in the water is it?
Will Klopp very moch liking him. do you think we can still go back for him. something still be done?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing seems to be happening right now.}

03 Jun 2017 05:49:05
hey eds with all the interest and players being mentioned, do you see us breaking our transfer records? both for individual player and total spending?

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, there is so much more money in the Prem this season, I expect most of the clubs to do so.}

03 Jun 2017 07:53:43
Scary to think what the world record transfer fee will be within the next few seasons. crazy money.

03 Jun 2017 09:03:09
It is a great shame that "the people's game" has become so completely detached from the reality of those that support it.

03 Jun 2017 03:57:00
There's something about our transfer policy I don't understand.

If we can't bring in a player who is the best available at the position, for instance Mendy, because of the wage demands, then why do we say to a player who's wages we can afford, say Sessegnon, that you will be playing in the Under-23's?

This makes little sense.

If you can't compete for the most wanted players, the finished article, then surely you have to take a chance with youngsters?

With this "neither here nor there" approach, will we not inevitably end up fielding teams composed of expendables and makeshifts (Klavan, Milner, etc)?

03 Jun 2017 04:48:49
Liverpool's transfer approach has been a disastrous mess over the last couple of decades. I'm surprised you thought anything was going to change now. As long as we sign some decent players that improve our team, I won't be complaining too much though. At least the targets are better than the dross we have brought in the past few seasons.
Counting on Klopp to get it right this time.

03 Jun 2017 07:49:41
I'm wth you on that Buzzer.

Get it wrong and we'll fall behind big time, Chelsea, Mancs and Spurs will only get stronger.

Whilst the defence is a mess and needs sorting, I really hope we sign a creative/ direct player that can help un-pick teams that put 11 men behind the ball when they visit Anfield. Especially with Mané at the AFCON in Jan.

03 Jun 2017 08:11:01
Jesus christ why is everyone so negative? We are spending decent money on very good players that will improve our starting 11 and squad depth yet people are still not happy. let's wait and see who we end up with, back Klopp and the club.

03 Jun 2017 01:53:17
Morning reds
In my opinion salah is a very good buy if we get him. He said proven at a high standard in the champions league and in Italy.
Yes his spell at Chelsea was poor but he had limited chances and mourinho doesn't get the best out of his attacking players that's for sure.

I believe klopp sees firminho (who I rate highly) as his front man, salah and mane on the flanks and coutinho through the middle. However I feel we would still be short of back up, I'm still not convinced origi is a game changer and don't know much about solanke. And with the afcon we'd need another winger in at least.

Add a couple of defenders and we aren't looking like a strong unit. In an ideal world sturridge can stay fit cause he is class.

We don't need the big marquee signings klopp doesn't work that way, plus prices have gone crazy so we can't afford them.

Bring on next season YNWA.

02 Jun 2017 23:40:07
Gaya would seem to be a good option for left back. Any idea what kind of money/ value he'd be Eds relative to Mendy who seems destined for City. Thanks for your time Eds, it's much appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}

02 Jun 2017 21:05:34
Hey ed what's the latest on rafinha? Is the interest serious or just an option incase other targets fall through? I like the look of him personally and I'm sure he would link up well with couts and robbie.

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed that I amk aware of.}