Liverpool Banter Archive June 03 2015

03 jun 2015 23:36:21
hey eds who in your opinion would you like to see at liverpool realistically hope you get time to answer

{Ed001's Note - I would still love Gary Medel, Inter are a shambles so he should be attainable and would offer us a player entirely suited to the role that Rodgers attempted to shoehorn Gerrard into last season.}

04 Jun 2015 00:03:02
Not to worry, Ed because Joe Allen will be that guy.

{Ed001's Note - that is what worries me, precisely what worries me.}

04 Jun 2015 00:11:11
Agree ed, but think we had our chance whilst he was in the championship with Cardiff. Not now he is with inter, they have just recently signed him so I imagine they will raise sales with icardi hernanes/kovacic.

Fingers crossed though because not only can.he.play.in a mid 3 but he cab also play the centre of a back 3 very wel. couldn't be more perfect for a manager like Brendan with how he wants to play and likes different versatile options!

I once heard xavi recommended him to Barcelona aswel, pretty good reference

And he is aggressive aswel, which is what we need!

{Ed001's Note - he is one of the most underrated players in European football I think. He even made Steven Caulker look like a half decent defender with the protection he gave him.....}

04 Jun 2015 00:25:06
It's a shame tbh because a transfer window of;

Cech, Marshall, benaglio (most probably all unattainable)

Medel

Would sort out the defence no doubt and also bring the forward players to life.

Medel I just forget about tbh because it's never happening haha its insane because we would have super options in terms of formations during games as he can.fit in to any 4-2-3-1,4141,352,343,433,41212.

He hasn't got a bad injury record either has he!

04 Jun 2015 03:33:54
Medel is awesome and plays the DM role so well that he slides into the libero position atimes with the Chile national team. He's a Dm we could use but with BR and his love-in with Joe Allen, ain't going to happen.

04 Jun 2015 11:59:52
Inter are a shambles you say? We're a bloody shambles too!

04 Jun 2015 14:51:20
I think it says a lot that a guy of his height can slot into the CB position. Real toughness

03 Jun 2015 22:19:56
Been mentioned and again sorry for random 'ya rate him' but any thoughts on Yarmolenko as a player? Try to see him when I can but don't have as much freedom as I'd like.

Always rated him when I saw him and not sure if he'd suit us but find it surprising players who look good (Kono, Adriano, Yarmolenko, Ayew) who are on free agents don't have more buzz. Yet berahino, benteke, etc apparently are £20-30m players.

03 Jun 2015 22:41:18
Whenever I've watched Ukraine Kono has stood out much more than Yarmolenko

03 Jun 2015 20:45:39
Hey, moving away from the rumours just had a story,

attended the sydney fc vs chelsea game on tuesday night with brother in law, just wanted to know what the atmosphere was like at stamford bridge?

For 85 thousand fans i have never seen a more dull crowd, the biggest cheers of the night were from pitch invaders and paper aeroplanes being thrown onto the field. what a boring lot they were, next to no singing either?

I got a photo with mourinho walking down darling harbour and he couldn't have been less interested in being in australia.
I asked him what he thought of Australia and he stopped looked me in the eyes and said " not much at all", he was with his assistant and he said "another photo, another photo" with disgust.

Just thought i'd share my experience with you all. The main thing that surprised me was that they were not handing out blue plastic flags to the fans.

Tristan

{Ed002's Note - I guess as a Chelsea fan you must be disappointed - I am not so sure why you are posting this on a Liverpool page?}

04 Jun 2015 00:19:55
If he really did say that, then it's probably because he wasn't able to do many things. He was stuck in his hotel because every time he tried to go out somewhere, shopping for example, he got mobbed and had to go back to his hotel. Sydney harbour is great, but it just looking at it for a few days won't keep you entertained.

04 Jun 2015 05:42:27
It is so rare for us Aussies to have quality players and managers out here. we sit and watch them from the other side of the world and get a bit awestruck. Bondi Beach was chaos when Paris Hilton visited - how sad is that?

04 Jun 2015 06:20:15
What about the Remy goal though. Shame he has a dodgy ticker, or could have banged a few in for us like that!!

04 Jun 2015 09:21:43
Dodgy ticker? I was under the impression it was BR who turned down Remy. i'm sure it was Ed001 that said something along those lines if I remember correctly.

03 Jun 2015 17:48:59
Ed002 am I right in thinking our 3 main targets so far are Kovacic, Clyne and Yarmelenko? With Milner and Ings on Bosmans? Would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions on these please Eds? Thanks lads

{Ed002's Note - No.}

03 Jun 2015 22:16:44
I think its going to just be who is attainable as dumb as that sounds haha

But i think we will have top target and then second, third etc and will end up with the 2/3 I doubt we will get our top targets! I think the next few weeks will be spent testing the water, making enquiries, try to flog some players and then what wr get is what we get!

I just see Milner, ings, bogdan and then getting nowere and then we go get benteke lol which would be dreadful. Sorry ed I can't not slate a player before he joins us or before there ate rumours he is joining us, bht there is nothing right in getting benteke at all.

Unless big Sam came on board.

04 Jun 2015 01:32:22
That will be Milner, Ings, Benteke

03 Jun 2015 20:58:09
Just wondering about Jese Rodriguez, will he be staying at Madrid? Used to play about for Real but a lot has went quiet on him

{Ed007's Note - You want to use the Euro Soccer page for this stuff.}

03 Jun 2015 22:19:38
Just come back from an acl, got to be left alone for another year before anyone should look at him.

See wether he has lost any pace or if it reoccura again.

Morata was the one we should of gone for, (not that we ever did) but boy is that a 18 million pound gem that got away.

03 Jun 2015 20:44:00
Would you guys think that getting milner, ings and kovavic would be a good improvement on the team? Havent seen much on Kovavic and haven't seen him play much either? Is he a decent midfielder?

03 Jun 2015 21:12:09
It would be a good improvement to the squad rather than the team I think.
A top striker will improve our team as would a decent right back and a good holding midfielder.
Good additions to the squad for sure though!

03 Jun 2015 20:58:57
i am croatian and everyone in croatia thinks he is twice the player modric was at his age. he has everything but seems lost at inter as mancini didn't give him the chance and free role to flourish. another coutinho at inter and i dare to say even better player as he is good runner and will improve in defence. has a good shoot,pass,dribbling and those runs with te ball. not finished product but midfield of can as dm kova and hendo besides him and cou at the tip would be amazing

03 Jun 2015 20:43:11
{Ed001's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Physical Power or Passing Prowess.

03 Jun 2015 19:37:46
You can just tell it'll be 4231 next year with Lallana on the left, Milner on the right, crossing to £35m Benteke in the middle. Exciting times.

03 Jun 2015 19:51:08
That is literally the stuff of my nightmares and what i know will actually come next season.

03 Jun 2015 21:28:53
With BR staying, my one nightmare came true so I am lost all hope on that front

03 Jun 2015 19:18:46
I've done a search but couldn't find the answer so I wonder if one of the Ed's (or anyone else) could assist with the answer?

I was wondering if the current Anfield expansion plans allow for any further expansion in the future? i.e. presently the capacity is circa 45, 500 and is being increased by 8, 500 to - 54,000, which for mine isn't a massive increase given the purported outlay, my opinion aside, could an increase on 54,000 be made if the decision to "increase/expand" arose or would it then mean a definite move away from Anfield to further increase capacity?

{Ed001's Note - the plan is to expand further in the future, as the area's infrastructure is improved to enable a larger capacity crowd to be handled by the transport links.}

03 Jun 2015 19:39:48
Thanks for the rapid reply Ed001 . I thought it would be very short-sighted not to implement/allow for such.

{Ed001's Note - the next step is just under 60k, if I remember correctly.}

03 Jun 2015 19:45:40
Ed2 said it could never go above 60k , the rail track near by wasn't viable?? What you think ed1 ??

{Ed001's Note - at the moment it can't, but the council and the club are working on a regeneration plan for the area which would change that.}

03 Jun 2015 19:55:34
Hi Ed, are FSG committed to the further extension? Planning permission guarantees made to the council etc? I mean will it follow straight on from the current one? I'm not sure If there is a time scale as to when the next phase has to happen.
The reason I ask, is come 2017 FSG might feel like selling up. So would the possible new owners be obliged to carry out the second phase?
Just asking like. 😊

{Ed001's Note - it is a long way off, nothing has been committed to in that respect.}

03 Jun 2015 19:58:06
Really that is great news , any ideas how long that would take ? 2 years 10 years??

{Ed001's Note - to improve the infrastructure we are talking 10 or more years even.}

03 Jun 2015 20:11:40
Ed1 can I ask you how dose it take that long ?? Why not in 1-2 years say??

Thanks

{Ed001's Note - you have to redo the whole area, it involves compulsory buying hundreds of properties etc.}

03 Jun 2015 20:21:48
Is there a railway track that can be used?? Or will 1 have to be built??

{Ed001's Note - one of the issues is a lack of rail links.}

03 Jun 2015 20:50:20
And the KOP definitely needs re-doing/increasing when they can sort out the infrastructure.

03 Jun 2015 20:53:33
There's an old line which cam always be reopened with the backings the rail network.

03 Jun 2015 21:54:21
They are planning a sale at the right time.

{Ed002's Note - Not planning.}

03 Jun 2015 23:59:09
Didnt Merseyrail look into reopening the old bootle line to passengers a couple of years ago?

Its still used for freight now isn't it?

That could be complete crap like and I'm going off memory.

{Ed001's Note - they always talked about it, but nothing ever seems to happen.}

03 Jun 2015 18:24:37
this isn't a direct rumour but more of an attempt to quash those where big name players are mentioned.
Ed's, as far as I am aware we don't really pay big wages.
We don't currently possess any world starts int he side and have no CL football to offer.

I have seen in some posts reference being made to big players not being attracted and then Suarez occasionally being used to counter this.

I would say we are definitely not in the same place now. we don't have a renowned senior player a the club or a highly decorated former player as manager, IMO fans need to tone their expectations down as to who we are signing.

03 Jun 2015 17:43:12
Not sure why my first post didn't make it?

I'm trying to find out whether liverpool played a friendly in Dubai yesterday? Winning 3-0 with goals from Allen x2 and Gerrard?

Can't find any reports anywhere.

03 Jun 2015 18:26:36
They played Dubai all star under 11s , we had a comfortable 3 nil win shudda been 4 or 5

03 Jun 2015 19:24:39
Heard we actually showed great character

03 Jun 2015 20:02:29
It's a tough place to go Dubai, superb technicians they are. Great result, full of character. The boys gave everything

03 Jun 2015 20:36:37
Given the heat, and condition of the pitch , I thought we tactically superb.

04 Jun 2015 00:10:56
Showed great character but wasn't meant to be. Now remember, we lost Suarez.

03 Jun 2015 16:54:39
Hi Ed001

What is yor best ever Liverpool XI?

Any formation you like, players from any era etc

I know you normally would not do something like this but, anything to take us away from the constant Rodgers posts!!

keep up the good work!

{Ed001's Note - it is a nice change!
Clemence.
Back four of Jones (though Nicol runs him close!), Smith, Hansen, Staunton.
Midfield of Callaghan, Souness, Alonso, Barnes.
Strikers have to be Fowler and Dalglish.

That was hard leaving out so many great players.}

03 Jun 2015 17:14:56
Clemence.
Babble (although Finnan runs him close).
Hansen
Carragher.
Nicol.
Barnes.
Souness.
Gerrard.
Fowler.
Rush.
Torres or Suarez.

Still a tough shout leaving so many others out.

03 Jun 2015 17:29:04
Gerrard the best player we've ever had ,could do everything he's a must first name on team sheet

{Ed001's Note - sorry but he was not the best player ever, he was not even the best midfielder we have ever had and he could not defend nor would he play on the right because he thought he was too good to play there.}

03 Jun 2015 17:30:43
Cant believe you left out Super Stevie Nicol, he was so good any position you played him in would have looked like his natural position! Keegan instead of Fowler for me as well although that's a bit of a controversial one!

03 Jun 2015 17:51:31
I know you like Finnan a lot so I imagine it was hard leaving him out!

{Ed001's Note - and Babbel, but Jones was just that good.}

03 Jun 2015 18:02:41
Let's not argue over a Best XI too, haha.
If you'll indulge me :

Clemence
Neal Hughes Hansen Nicol
Gerrard McDermott Souness Barnes
Dalglish Keegan

I feel better already. Who's manager though, haha ?

{Ed001's Note - Paisley.}

03 Jun 2015 18:12:45
Clemence
Nicol
Hansen
Hyypia
Kennedy
McManaman
Souness
McMahon
Barnes
Dalglish
Rush

this for me would be my best as think it adds aerial prowess and proper steel in midfield.

{Ed001's Note - steel and you put in McManaman?}

03 Jun 2015 18:20:00
Shankly for me ed, with the old Boot Room behind.
Brendan could make the teas for about ten years and learn some proper football !

{Ed001's Note - Paisley learnt from Shanks to take it on a whole new level, that is why I would go for him. He was ruthless while Shanks was too loyal.}

03 Jun 2015 18:28:34
Clemence
Neal carragher hansen nichol
McDermott souness Barnes
rush Dalglish liddell


Paisley is the boss of

03 Jun 2015 18:46:19
Ray Clenence
Steve Nicol
Emlyn Hughes
Alan Hansen
Alan Kennedy
Jan Molby
Graeme Souness
Ronnie Whelan
John Barnes
Kenny Dalglish
Ian Rush

Subs
John Aldridge
Peter Beardsley
Ray Kennedy
Mark Lawrenson
Rob Jones
Steve Gerrard
Bruce Grobelaar (hard leaving out God).

03 Jun 2015 19:37:08
Im not even going to try! :-)

03 Jun 2015 19:48:23
From my years following since late 80s

Grobbelaar
Jones
Hyppia
Carragher
Bjornebye
Alonso
Hamann
Barnes
McManaman
Fowler
Rush

03 Jun 2015 19:55:54
Very interesting a lot of u leave out Gerrard.

03 Jun 2015 20:09:57
I started following football in 96 so will only pick players I've seen. I'm going for 4-2-3-1

Reina
Finnan Caragher Hyppia Riise
Alonso Mascherano
Mcmanaman Gerrard Suarez
Torres

03 Jun 2015 21:09:06
Clemence
Neal
Hansen
Carra
Emlyn
Mcmanaman
Souness
Gerrard
Barnes
Dalglish
Suarez

Ah it's way too hard, I'm still not happy, few beers and I'll be arguing with myself!

03 Jun 2015 21:29:12
Grobelaar
Nicol Hyypia Hansen Riise
Houghton Souness Molby Barnes
Fowler Dalglish

03 Jun 2015 21:48:44
Clemence
Nicol carra Hanson Staunton
Alonso
Souness. Mcdermot
Dalglish
Fowler. Rush
Subs
Barnes, reina,whelan, suarez, hyppia, smith
Manager
Paisley

03 Jun 2015 22:06:37
Clemence
Neal Hansen Hyypia Kennedy
McDermott Souness Gerrard
Dalglish Fowler Suarez

03 Jun 2015 22:35:34
I think it is universally recognised that Gerrard is either the best player to have ever put on a Liverpool shirt, or the second behind Dagleish. Yet lots of you don't even put him in your best ever team. Just proves to me that you know nothing about football

{Ed001's Note - or that we disagree with what is just an opinion by some people that don't even know who Billy Liddell is, who many would still argue was the greatest player ever to play for Liverpool. You need to remove your head from your anus and grow up. Gerrard is not universally recognised as the best, some people think he is, some don't, but then most of us aren't getting our points of view from tabloid papers, where you clearly get all your information from.}

03 Jun 2015 22:46:07
Doesn't matter what era you have watched LFC - the midfield of Case, Souness, McDermott and Ray Kennedy will never be bettered as a unit.
Chris Lawler the best right full back I have ever seen, a central defence of Hansen and Lawrenson, Clemence by far the best keeper we have had.
And as for up front - Owen has a better goals per game ratio than Fowler and Rush, but can't be included, Roger Hunt for me is the best inside right we have had, and although he wasn't here long Saurez has to be included, so where do I put the best player I have seen in a red shirt - King Kenny.
It's all subjective, but comparing like for like, my team would be:-
Clemence
Lawler ( or Neal )
Hansen
Lawrenson ( or Stevenson )
Alan Kennedy ( or Moran )
Gerrard ( in place of Case )
Souness
McDermott
Ray Kennedy
Dalglish ( possibly Hunt, Fowler, Rush or Owen )
Saurez

Subs - as above plus John Barnes.

Seen great players, and great teams - impossible job.

I've left out some of my all time favourites - Ian St John, Ian Callaghan, Sami Hyppia, Gerry Byrne, Tommy Smith, Emlyn Hughes - the list of great players I have been lucky to watch over the last 50 years.

And we now have a manager who, in my opinion, should not be called a coach or a manager - we are doomed to be a mid ( or lower ) table side as long as he stays in charge

03 Jun 2015 23:05:24
No eds, I don't get my points of view from tabloid newspapers, as my name suggests I have been a true supporter since my first visit to Anfield when Swansea Town as they were then won 2-1 in the quarter final of the FA cup in 1964. Ronnie Moran missed a penalty to force a replay and Noel Dwyer the Swansea keeper had the game of his life. Since then I have seen most of the greats play for Liverpool. I took an under 12's team to Anfield to watch us beat Oxford 6-0 and I thought that the partnership between Rush and Dagleish was nothing short of telepathic. But i stand by what I say Gerrard is the best player to put on a Liverpool shirt

{Ed001's Note - in your opinion. But that is not mine. He is not even half the player Souness was, he has no defensive awareness at all. His best position was the one he refused to play for Liverpool yet said he was happy to play there or anywhere for England. If he had stayed there, as Rafa wanted him to, he would have been in the argument to be the greatest ever, as it is, he was too prone to errors leading to goals that should never have been if he had been awake defensively. Too many lazy back passes without looking.}

04 Jun 2015 10:00:34
thoroughly agree which is why Gerrard was not in my side
and btw when I meant steel in midfield I meant central, agree about McManaman shout - saw him tackle once and went straight to Specsavers to get my eye test done!!

Mcmahon and Souness both had defensive awareness - look at how many goals we didn't concede with those in the side, this wasn't purely down to 2x centre halves and a GK it was their awareness of what was going on around them.

know of an ex-player who quite openly states hated playing with SG as he had literally no defensive awareness and simply didn't try to address it.

unfortunately for me - SG stands out recently because of a lack of quality around him, players in the late 70s and 80s for LFC don't get the same recognition and adulation but won far more.

03 Jun 2015 16:37:22
G'day Eds- Long time reader but first time poster. Good work on the sites and all your effort over the years.

I just have one question. How do you rate Origi? Do we have place for another striker (Origi, Sturridge, Ings). I am assuming Ings will sign and also that Balo, Borini and Lambert will leave.

{Ed002's Note - Just a kid who has had a bad season.}

03 Jun 2015 15:48:24
I think we should go for the following strikers If we r able to recoup the money from the sales of Borini Balo Sterling.(any one of them)
1.Mauro Icardi/(order of perference)
2.Luciano vietto/
3.Jese Rodriguez/
4.Leo Baptistao.
Best thing is to bring in Jackson Martinez.

Instead of buying wide player we should go for CDM like
2.Kondogbia
1.William Carvalho

Then we should defo buy a GK
1.Cech
2.Begovic
3.Handanovic.

If we can invest some money then we should buy Clyne.

Also if possible we should sell Allen to balance the books.

YNWA

03 Jun 2015 17:24:23
With a club that revels in mediocrity, I doubt any of those very good players will come here, I`m afraid.

03 Jun 2015 17:37:53
That reminds me, haven't played Football Manager for a while.

03 Jun 2015 15:38:59
So here's my view on this whole debacle.

I am dissapointed with FSG's decision, as is everyone, but i am not angry with them and im
not about to start saying they don't know what they're doing and they're destroying the club blah blah blah

They aren't accepting mediocrity, they simply believe that rodgers is capable of turning this around. I don't however, and haven't since november of 2014, and don't think he ever will.
That doesn't mean they are accepting mediocirty, they simply believe rodgers is still the answer. Its their opinion, their choice, and it certainly isn't anything to do with money or severance payments.

These are men who are multimillionaires, have huge amounts of money on the line and their own interests. They run Boston Red Sox. They clearly know what they are doing, i don't think they are going to just sack the man they chose for the job and risk instability because Paul aged 57 from down the Albert Pub has a different opinion. Please pipe down and have a bit more respect for people who aren't trying to
rip us off like the last lot.

Now i am not one of these people that thinks any kind of failure is unacceptable. I saw someone say that somehow the difference between greatness and mediocrity is real sacking ancelotti and us keeping rodgers. If that is seriously your opinion that the way real do things is better than us then you are the worlds most deluded football fan.

I am more than happy for rodgers to turn this around. But i'm 110% sure that he wont, otherwise he would have already. The owners won't be giving him any more money, that's for sure. I reckon he'll last til January. I hope i am surprised and that Tom Werner is a genius and we actually play really well and everything goes back to the way it was, but i just don't think we will.

The first time i have ever gone into a season without a shred of optimism. I fail to see where another season of rodgers will take us, he just won't change. I feel so unbelievably empty with everything football at the moment. It really is a low point.

Congratulations rodgers, you've managed to balls up one of the best chances we had to kick on and become a top team again. Now we are just consigned to you playing all 12 of our new signings this summer in the wrong posiitions. What a season this will be.

03 Jun 2015 16:16:37
Perhaps FSG looked at the potential candidates to success Rodgers, and decided that the current available managers aren´t an upgrade on what we already have.

{Ed002's Note - No, that is simply not the case.}

03 Jun 2015 16:26:32
The best description I could give of you is " GULLIBLE "! USA USA USA USA USA USA.

03 Jun 2015 16:57:02
Alas, being classy as always, the average liverpool fan.

Yes because being pro USA is really my agenda, trying to logically look at this without behaving like, as Ed002 would describe, 'a knuckle dragging oaf', criticising our owners because they aren't from a footballing country.

But i bet you wouldn't have any issue if it were russian or arab owners who bought the club and cared even less about it, but because they pour billions into it and use it as their toy, i bet you'd be happy.

Im sure the owners really don't care aboutthe club, yeah there's so much evidence to support that statement, and i bet they clearly have no idea what they're doing. After all, what do a group of multimillionaires know compared to the ingenious working class supporters of liverpool?

They care so little about the club they have comitted to building a stadium extension, saved us from being liquidated
and poured hundreds of millions into the club only to see every penny of it spent by piss poor employees who then spend it recruiting even more piss poor employees. i'm sure they just don't care anymore, obviously.

To be honest, i feel really sorry for them by this point. Everyone they employ just seems to fail them and all the fans ever do is have a go at them for not being able to turn us into barcelona overnight and spending tons of money, despite that being what forced them to save us in the first place.

So yes, i am clearly the gullible one.

03 Jun 2015 17:27:20
Off the top of my head, Emery of sevilla is an upgrade on BR and he may become West ham`s new coach if the media is to beleived. What does that say about the owners vision?

03 Jun 2015 17:57:23
And off the top of my head i remember a time when everyone was furious that we had missed out on sigurdsson and skeptical about sturridge and coutinho but welcomed borini and allen with open arms.

So i'll be respecting their judgement before that of most football fans. I believe
that keeping rodgers is the wrong choice but i'm not going to accuse them of being bloodsucking leeches with no ambition just because they made a decision i don't think is the best choice.

03 Jun 2015 18:42:24
It's a naive decision of the highest order AW. They own the club, so it's down to them. Yes, they have ploughed money into the club and started development on the ground etc, which is fantastic, but why reward failure, and BR has been a failure, big time. With this decision, the Owner's have shown a side to themselves that says that they have no idea or vision. When one thinks about it, it just doesn't make any sense to keep him, no sense at all. He doesn't learn, constant foot in mouth - which the Eds have said previously, that he's been told numourous times to zip it, yet continues. Why is any of that going to change! So they've rewarded someone that is a failure, someone that doesn't listen, someone that freezes players out, someone that does't care about the youth at the club, the list is endless. Big mistake keeping him on.

03 Jun 2015 19:15:00
How do you define a failure? How many chances do you have to be given before defined as a total failure?

Obviously it is different for some, some people wanted him out in november, like me, some in his first few months, some as soon as he was appointed. Everyones definition of what is good enough is different.

As such, the owners obviously feel they can give him one more chance before deeming him a total failure. And let's be honest, if he spent no more money and switched it all about and we won stuff then he wouldn't be a failure, would he?

Now obviously i don't think that's going to happen, nobody does, but the owners feel
it might. They aren't making this decision just to drive the club into the ground for the hell of it like most fans would have you believe.

And we have no idea what went on in the club, or what their reasons are, we literally know nothing, so we should stop pretending we do. If all else fails, he'll be out by january, and we'll all breath a sigh of relief.

03 Jun 2015 20:03:24
The multiple USA's was a mock of you chanting by way of support, it could easily have been multiple FSG's, my point being you won't have a word said against them which clearly shows your gullible as you see them as having the clubs best interests at heart when the almighty dollar is what they have at heart.

Since they arrived " TO SAVE US, YAWN YAWN ", buying us for waaaaayyyyyyy below market value what have they done? Poor net spend on players, sacking a legend to replace with a novice car salesmen who they are sticking with because its the cheap option and he's a yes man, putting us back into massive debt, all while no doubt taking a massive salary from the club all leading to a sell off when the big TV deal comes in, no doubt doubling and more there overall investment, no I take that back, your not gullible at all ( rolls eyes ).

This knuckle dragging oaf can see them for what they are, parasites!!

03 Jun 2015 21:24:40
Everyone is critical of the owners now, yet none of us actually know what the plan is that Rodgers agreed to. Perhaps it involves a DoF who will oversee things behind the scenes including transfer, thus freeing Rodgers to spend more time on the training pitch (he did complain of not having enough coaching time this year after all ).
If was calling for Rodgers to go just like everyone else, but he hasn't he his the manager of LFC and until a time when he isn't (maybe they have told him he has till January to improve) we will have to get on with it. It support our club in want us to do well if that means Rodgers proving us all wrong then great. Let's move on now and support and get behind our team

03 Jun 2015 21:49:31
Poor net spend on players? Yeah because they did that to annoy us didn't they, its not like its their own money their pissing down the drain is it.

Replacing a legend with a novice car salesman? Again, they clearly did that to spite us didn't they.

Its not like kenny was only a short term solution, and that rodgers was clearly brought in to 'cut costs' or be a 'yes man' as you would suggest, like FSG are the bloody Illuminati or something. They brought him in to bring us long term success, and it hasn't worked out! How bloody hard is that to understand!

Im clearly the gullible one, i think you've been watching too many of those conspiracy documentaries mate. Just another know-it-all who'll blame every higher power for being corrupt or bullying the hard working public or whatever the hell your crackhead theory is.

Assuming that they do just want to sell up, which i'm not that bothered about so long as they don't do what the last cowboys did let's assess your theory that they are just sucking the life out of the club.

Why have they started building a stadium extension?

Why would they spend their own money to try and achieve success? How the hell would driving us into debt to achieve success look attractive to potential buyers?! they're doing the exact opposite of what you think they're doing, and you call me gullible?! What a joke.

And do you seriously think the financial implications of sacking rodgers would be as significant as getting a manager who would guarantee champions league, and the revenues that come with it? Do you really think it compares? they're keeping him because they believe he can get us champions league, otherwise they would have got rid of him, surely you aren't gullible enough not see that.

Why don't you stop calling me 'gullible' and look for some logic in that lunatic argument of yours. While your at it, i'd also like the number for whoever gave you whatever it is your smoking.

03 Jun 2015 23:23:23
AW, nobody knows why they are keeping him if as the Ed02 said, the owners were presented with other coaching options and declined them. Meaning? Had they found someone, he'd be gone. Unai Emery was there yet they may or may not have thought he was good enuff which is staggering. They kept him and are not saying why so all you have is suppositions which have no basis in a factual discussion. What we do know on the face of it, is that this decision was nothing but a total bottle and choke job on the part of the owners and if you think based on the past three years! that BR can mount a CL challenge, you are fooling yourself. None of the other top 5 clubs would have kept him and we all know that so why should we just accept failure being shoved down our throats all in the name of supporting the club and manager no matter what? Good luck getting those top players to come here and play for a failure of a manager and good luck keeping Lucas, Sahko and the other players who are fed up with him. Until the contrary has be proven, this decision is a disgrace and an affront to our great club.

04 Jun 2015 19:51:05
Your line of reasoning is not very convincing. To say that becuase they have a lot of money or are the owners of the Boston Red Socks they cannot make big big mistakes is not a very strong argument. It is a bit like saying that a politician cannot make huge mistakes becuase he was good enough to win the election.

People with a lot of money can do huge mistakes as the business world show us every day. I honestly don't understand why they got into this Liverpool ownership business. It is a well known fact that it is hard to make money from ownership of top football team sin Europe. You have to get into it becuase you have passion for football.

I don't think they have passion for football. Don't get me worng I think they have good intentions but they clearly don't understand football the way Roman Abramovich does and I am not even sure they like football as much as Roman Abramovich do. Every time one of the Eds mention them they say they are getting advice from thrid parties. Did you ever hear someone say that Abramovich decides to bring Mourinho or sack a manager because someone advised him to do so as he himslef didn't know what to do?

Look what happened to Chelsea under Abramovich and what happened to City with the new owners and what has (not) become of us. We didn't progress one bit since they came, maybe went backword at least on the pitch (if we improved financially this wasn't translated to any achievements on the pitch which is the ultimate goal of a football club).

And what makes it worse, is that we had a huge chance to get back to the top after last year with the amazing Suarez and instead we went back big time. BR failed and in any other club with serious intentions to improve he would have gone because it is clear to everyone that he doesn't have what it takes to be a top top manager. And all the indications showed that Klopp wanted the job which could have been like a miracle, too good to be true. What was the owenrs response? Review, and another chance to BR. A review? seriously? bit like making a review for a striker to understand why he misses so much sitters. Let's ask an accountant for advice on how we can score more goals. It is not a grocery shop, it is a top PL club and you have to be ruthless at times and cease opportunities and cut damages.

By keping BR they are saying this is the best the team can get, top 6. You will not find anyone in the football world not even the greatest BR supporters, not even he himself that think that Liverpool with him can get even close to the top 4 next season. Maybe they got so disillusioned with the club that they think that with any manager we will not get to the top 4 so at least they don't have to pay BR his full contract when someone else fails. Fair enough but then why do you stay? In my view it is a lot about his contract. They look to me like poeple who don't enjoy paying someone three years when he worked only a year for them (fair enough but sort this in the contract in advance so you have to pay him only 6 months if being sacked). This is the reason why Baloteli will stay with us next season as well they don't like to buy high and sell low. This is all good if you run a grocery store, but as I said before, a top football team is a bit like taking part in auction for very expensive art pieces. You cannot be succesful if you are hesitant.

03 Jun 2015 13:06:58
Even with Rodgers here next season, I'm confident of a top 4 finish, just as long as we bring in a natural right back and a natural striker.

We finished 6th with a young winger played up front for the majority of the season, and also a young midfielder played centre back/right back for the majority of the season. Therefore, if we only brought in 2 natural players for those positions, I'd be confident of a top 4 finish.

However, I'm slightly more hungry and want a title fight, but to be ready for that, we must bring in several players. Priority for me would be to bring in a passing midfielder to help us dictate games, we would also need a new centre back and a goalkeeper that would be an upgrade on Skrtel and Migs. Then I'd be confident of a title fight.

Red Rum

03 Jun 2015 13:24:57
Ain`t going to happen, Rum. Skrtel is our best CB, in BR`s eyes so there is all you need to know about his ability to coach a defence. As for the rest of your post, let`s wait and see if a Leopard can change his spots.

03 Jun 2015 13:40:02
Can't see it myself.Out of this seasons top 4 who's place do you see us taking. Definitely not Chelsea, Man city will spend big to challenge,Arsenal only need at the most 2 players and now that they are back in champions league I can see Man U spending big also. So I hope I am wrong but I can't see us dislodging any of that 4

03 Jun 2015 13:48:03
Your wasting your time being optimistic red rum.

I was the same as you last season but the last couple of months have shown me that Rodgers really doesn't have a clue what he's doing.

The other season shown it was all down to the players not rodgers.

Yes we are desperate for a top striker but it really wouldn't surprise me if Ings and origi are it.

Followed by Milner and a couple of defenders

03 Jun 2015 14:09:27
Lavers- I completely agree. In fact its not a fact that I wouldn't be surprised if Origi and Ings were it, it's what I'm expecting.

03 Jun 2015 14:12:02
If last season was down to players then this season is also down to the players and similarly if it was down to the manager then he should take both the criticism and praise. You can't completely blame Rodgers for this season and not give him credit for last.

03 Jun 2015 14:35:23
Current top 4 will improve with the type of players we dream of. They will all become uncatchable.
Only hope could be Man City, if Agureo goes to Madrid and both Dzeko and Toure are sold then they could buy bad (it happens, see Mangela). But I can see Bony being just as lethal if given a run.

The top four have players and a manager who knows how to win titles. Our situation hasn't changed, so can't really see why it would.

Being able to maintain 6th would be impressive. We need to be looking at how Spurs, Saints, Newcastle, West Ham and Swansea will improve. Add the wild card of the promoted as both Watford and B'Mouth have money play good football. Stoke and even Everton will have desires to push on too.

There is a big pack which we could get sucked into going by our end of season form.

03 Jun 2015 14:40:59
Completely agree I have a funny feeling we will do well next season not a title challenge but defo in the mix for top 4 will get off to a good start and carry the momentum on suppose we will see 👍

03 Jun 2015 14:53:00
That's working on the assumption that we buy amazingly well( no track record of doing so) the current top 4 ( as well as Spurs and Southampton ) by bad (most already have a strong enough base they can afford the odd mistake). Once we've accomplished that hurdle we still need BR to start playing players in their position, hope he doesn't revert back to his lame death by football system and actually starts learning from his mistakes ( track record of 3 years making same mistakes).

Too many factors there for us to make it. It will be a Christmas miracle if we get there.

03 Jun 2015 14:59:06
We had natural strikers and right backs in our squad last season and it made no difference because Rodgers decided not to play them.
No point in adding more. No point in letting Rodgers waste anymore money, the squads there he just needs to use it properly.

03 Jun 2015 15:12:55
You obviously missed the entirety of last season then Red Rum? If the battering from Stoke wasn't a glimpse into next season then you could have a look at the Villa semi final or the capitulation against Palace too for further reading.

03 Jun 2015 15:30:44
Truered2

The season before last we where still woeful at defending with players unorganised most of the time when playing Rodgers style of football.

Then come Xmas he just let them all loose, pretty much the same as last season but it didn't pay off this time for him.

Can you blame emre can for playing poorly at RB or sterling for playing as striker? NO

Everyone knew can was our weakest link so teams just played straight through him, but good old Rodgers stuck to it and hung him out to dry.

03 Jun 2015 15:35:24
The thing is Skrtel is everything that is wrong about our defence. He makes us submit to attacks by dropping off to the point where we are on our own penalty spot.

03 Jun 2015 16:04:21
I'm not confident,,, expecially with the calibre of players linked to the club this window. Truly awful we're in big trouble

03 Jun 2015 16:11:08
I agree with Red Rum.
Full pre-season, no World Cup disruption.
New signings from last season settle in.
No Suarez, Gerrard and hopefully Sterling and Balotelli distractions.

Would also be hilarious to see the reactions on here :-)

03 Jun 2015 16:38:36
Redrum are you familiar with the phrase " REALITY CHECK "! Because your 4 months away from a massive one. Were a million miles away from the champions league and how you can honestly say any different is quite frankly staggering.

To the poster who said we will probably end up going with Origi and Ings, I do hope so so this clown can't waste anymore money, leaving a war chest for the new manager next season.

03 Jun 2015 16:55:01
Watch out RONALDS about. Is Ron Keauge an anagram of " Brendan Rodgers is my hero and a football genius "? Answers on a postcard ( showing my age there )

03 Jun 2015 17:55:35
Lavers while I completely agree with you about this season, nobody can say we were poor at any point last season. First half the season we scored 40+ goals which is almost half of what we scored in total (101 I think). Goals conceded wise it remains almost similar. While it is true that we started a little slowly in terms of performance by Oct end November we were brilliant. This season however is there are o excuses. Just don't know why people say we were poor in the beginning of last season.

03 Jun 2015 18:00:39
Waro, you`re a riot, mate! Seriously, we have validated failure as a mission statement for our club and people trying spin and weave it into something good can keep trying and let me know when they succeed in doing that.

03 Jun 2015 19:02:53
Most of the posters acknowledged that they wanted rid of BR, and now you're ridiculing them for trying to have a little positivity on the subject?

All your negative piffle about sacking rodgers came to nothing ohio despite your certainty and constant talking down of other posters. Best move on now pal. change the record.

03 Jun 2015 19:47:15
Close Waro,

It's an acronym of "Waro and redohio are my heroes with unparalleled football knowledge and foresight and grammar".

Xx

03 Jun 2015 20:08:17
Ron I assume you'll admit you were wrong in a year's time when we've had another bad season?

03 Jun 2015 20:36:22
Ron your making me blush, how about you Redohio? Your are correct though Ron about our knowledge of football. Myself and Redo we really know our stuff😉

03 Jun 2015 21:48:20
Adam, no problem admitting I'm wrong, it's not a competition I remember entering, but Internet jousting is not my cup of tea.
So of you want I'll admit I'm wrong about everything right here and now, that's how serious Internet forum jousting is to me.

But in all seriousness I just support LFC and part of that includes being optimistic and positive about the club.
I don't honestly in my heart of hearts felt that is wrong, but if it's important to you then you can have this Internet present from me.

All my posts past and future are 100% wrong.

Ps Love you Waro xx

{Ed007's Note - There'll be no butt internet jousting in here! What kind of site do you think this is?}

03 Jun 2015 12:44:56
hi eds now rodgers is staying would you expect the club to move quickly an try get there main transfere targets over the line to try an settle things down with the fans fsg must surley know the fans aren't happy at the moment

{Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly comment on timescales. As the fans are Liverpool fans they will whine about something regardless.}

03 Jun 2015 16:50:57
Dont be silly Ed

03 Jun 2015 09:08:00
Hey eds,

Did liverpool show interest in any mf after kovacic recently except milner etc?
What do you think will happen on kovacic front?

All the paper also seem to have gone silent on salvio front. Do you guys rate markovic and ibe as good enough to take the stand from sterling?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained who I know to have been looked at.}

03 Jun 2015 14:34:17
Hey ed001,

Can you please reply to the last question, which was-

Do you guys rate markovic and ibe as good enough to take the stand from sterling?

{Ed001's Note - I have always rated Ibe higher, but better would be having both in the side.}

03 Jun 2015 11:48:41
Is the Kovacic interest independent on getting a deal in place for Milner or will we still be interested if Milner sign?

03 Jun 2015 11:40:37
Eds just wanted an update on where Arda Turan is most likely to be off to this summer. Bayern is it?

Are we completely out of the running for his signing due to lack of Champs league?

Thank youuuu

{Ed001's Note - try the euro site.}

03 Jun 2015 12:00:12
Nothing on there except that Atletico are looking to sell him and Mandzukic.

{Ed001's Note - I mean ask on there, this is not the site for these questions.}

03 Jun 2015 12:41:11
Aha ok gotcha. I'll just take it he won't be joining Liverpool so. Thanks!

03 Jun 2015 10:24:18
So the review seems to be over. Changes have been made to the medical, scouting, commercial department etc. In regards to how to bring on field success, does anyone know what the review came up with?

03 Jun 2015 11:26:02
I think they managed to shift the deckchairs on the titanic, that's about it

03 Jun 2015 11:36:35
Keep Rodgers, replace Gerrard with Milner, sign a RB so Can can play in midfield, this looks like Clyne.
Sign a proven goal scorer as that's what was lacking from finishing 4th. Replace outgoing Borini with Ings.
Use youth at club.
Sign back up keeper to replace Jones.
The sale of Sterling and Balotelli are essential.

Then I think it's as you were, hopefully last summers signings, the youth and our replacements will improve our squad. The striker signing and Sturridge fitness will be key as we do create plenty. The RB isn't essential as Wisdom has resigned.

This is my guess. I think with such a poor season, the loss of both Gerrard and probably Sterling will lift much expectation, our usual hope for a challenge. This could work in our favour for change maybe? Maybe less expectation equals less pressure? Could lead to similar season like the previous, sure it was Suarez etc but who knows.

03 Jun 2015 13:14:53
Max what a ridiculously stupid post. All that was lacking was a striker? Leaving aside what he did with the 120million last summer, did you miss the fact we conceded 50 goals AGAIN? Let's have a little reminder shall we: 6 against Stoke, 3 against United, 3 against palace (twice), 4 against Arsenal. 3 years, hundreds of millions spent on defenders and other players, and the team's organisation is a complete shambles. These BR appeasers are really grinding my gears. Cloud cuckoo land post Max well done

03 Jun 2015 13:47:54
@Essexred, Max has a RB and a backup keeper coming in. We already have an abundance of centre backs we just play the wrong one and the wrong system.

I don't think Max is spot on with everything myself but it certainly isn't a ridiculous post. A few bits he's mentioned appear to be correct like Rodgers, Milner, Ings, a backup keeper.

03 Jun 2015 14:14:51
We had 3 right backs last season, 1 was injured but Rodgers still played a midfielder there for a considerable number of games. Manquillo isn't a world beater but he's a solid defensive rb and better than Can or Johnson. Rodgers either can't see that (sackable offence) or he played Can there to make some childish political point (sackable offence).

03 Jun 2015 15:57:58
Maxx, were you in the meetings or did you just dream that up? Nonesense! Nobody knows anything because BR and the owners said nothing and will say nothing about the on feild "changes" because NONE was done and many of the fans are furious. No other club ahead of us would have kept him after his failures and the Stoke massacre would have been the last straw. in fact, NONE of these clubs would have let it go that far as he would have been sacked after the Utd game in nov. They kept a failure of a manager and that is all we need to know. I`ll beleive on-field changes when I see them. As for lifting expectations, good luck with your premise and getting top players in because IMO, the owners have rewarded failure and what fan base can get energized about that and what top player wants to come play here where there is NO ambition to challenge on the field? Get back to me when you can answer those with logical reason because excuses and fantasies are not logical.

P/S, I suggest you go check the comments` board online and see how other clubs` fans are hammering LFC as the biggest laughing stock of the moment with this decision. But clearly, the BR fan club don`t care about how dumb we look in public provided their BFF gets to remain a falure at this club

03 Jun 2015 16:15:04
Don't care what other fans say, we mock them when they're struggling, they mock us.
So what?

03 Jun 2015 21:24:56
Well I did say this was my GUESS, in answer to the op. So no, never said I was in the meetings.

I never said all that lacking was a striker? I said a proven striker short of top 4. Think about those games we drew or lost by a goal, but we created a hatful of chances. The chances Sterling missed, Balotteli, Lambert. We had a 20-30 goal striker we could easily added an extra 10 points to our total.

I never said we didn't waste last seasons money, where does it say that.

Read the post not scan it and make up the rest.

03 Jun 2015 07:53:43
I haven't seen anyone ask you directly eds.
So here goes:

Whats your take on the situation, do you agree with the media that BR is safe for now or have you heard something else the last 24hrs?

Thanks mate.

{Ed002's Note - It is all on the "Other" page.}

03 Jun 2015 09:16:34
Looks like the other page will be very very busy in the coming year or so.

03 Jun 2015 10:25:35
what Other page?

03 Jun 2015 14:12:09
its the other one STEPH1

03 Jun 2015 06:54:40
Hey Ed001. Was watching the USA u23 squad and saw pelosi playing. Not much said about him. What's your opinion on him? Would love to hear about what kind of future he may have. I know 2-3 years ago he was pretty highly regarded.

{Ed001's Note - he suffered injuries which held him back, looks a very good player still, but he doesn't look to be at the level we would need. I think he will have to drop down a level or two and prove himself to come back up. I can't see him being any more than, at most, a lower end Prem team player.}

03 Jun 2015 15:24:30
Cheers Ed. Still quite young!

03 Jun 2015 06:04:43
Ed002, not Liverpool related, what do you make of the Sepp Blatter resignation?

{Ed002's Note - Not a surprise and there is a lot more to come - but it will take a long time.}

03 Jun 2015 10:33:06
Mr D, the eds here are never surprised by anything. They know about all occurrences before they happen, not only in football but in general. They have to, its in their contract. So please stop with these questions about them being surprised.

03 Jun 2015 06:38:59
Like everyone else on here, if the unconfirmed reports are true, then a feeling of abject disappointment will be rife.

For the first time in 54 years I will look forward to the new season with absolutely no expectations whatsoever.

No quality signings, but plenty of players with ' potential ', and then not given a chance.
No dreams of PL success, and not even expecting CL qualification.
Watching a team with no direction - and again probably not seeing the same side picked for 2 games in a row.
Players picked out of their natural positions, because they are obviously BR's favourites.

The one thing we will be guaranteed, we will all get embarrassed by the post match ( and pre match ) comments by the manager.

Again for the first time since I first stood in the Boys Pen at Anfield - I go into a season knowing what fans of mediocre clubs with no history must feel like.

I am genuinely worried about the direction FSG are taking this once great institution.

03 Jun 2015 07:24:40
Well said John b

It's going to be a very long season

How on earth Rodgers has kept his job is beyond me, all that money spent and players bought yet majority are all played out of position.

The last 6 - 7 games last season where played with no desire or passion to win and we threw top 4 away. To me you could the players just didn't want to play for the manager leading upto what happened on the final day, which summed up our whole season.

I know its only paper talk but sterling to arsenal and we want another defender and a winger who for the last 2 seasons can't stay fit for more than 2 games.

My biggest fear with Rodgers staying is we are going to buy 4-5 square pegs to try and make them fit in round holes, then come Xmas FSG realise the mistake they made yet were already out of contention for top 4 again and a new manager is left with an even harder job.

03 Jun 2015 09:51:17
I think FSG neither supports nor oppose Rodgers.FSG are waiting for the likes of Klopp, Ancelotti who will come fresh from their sabbatical to replace Rodgers after he fails to achieve anything again this season.

03 Jun 2015 16:49:12
Could be, indian BUT why take such a decision that they know would infuriate the fans if they know they will sack him 6 months? Unai Emery is interviewing with West Ham. You trying to tell me the owners could reach out to him? Is Klopp or carlo the only ones who can manage us? I don`t believe that for a second. The owners bottled it and we the fans may have to suffer the consequences.

03 Jun 2015 06:16:31
I have lost all faith in the ownership. They have made mistake after mistake but this one is the worst yet.They need to many advisors when they should just sit down and look at the cold hard facts. Rodgers is a failure and is destroying this club. They have also failed big time and even though they have invested in the club they are just to stupid to own and run it. They seem to have less and less interest and I for one can not wait till 2017. I don't care if the new owners don't have loads of money as long as they do what is right for the club. I have seen better managers in tescos.

03 Jun 2015 04:00:12
liverpool have bidded 30m for higuain according to daily mail

03 Jun 2015 02:19:38
This is a double whammy by fsg. Another mistake made by rookie advice. Mike Gordon knows little about football but this is most likely down to his advice. FSG have never tried to develop strong ties with the club meaning they have kept an unnecessary distance between them and the club and as a result football itself (apart from the business side I.E FFP). FSG have decided to keep Rogers in his position should he continue to work with the transfer committee. That's like a double negative. I know they have had good intentions, for the club but mainly for themselves, I hope they sell up soon and the successors have to know exactly what they are getting in to.

Who knows what will happen next season, but it's been a while now where I've been dreading a summer and wanting to see change at the clubs coaching staff so badly. You can say all you want about 'stop being negative' but there are major problems at our club and it's not only Rogers. Gary Nevilles piece in the telegraph is a huge wake up call and it's actually coming from the enemy. Many of us fans have said the same things. If that's negativity then get used to it.

03 Jun 2015 09:16:20
I've been looking forward to the summer because I could see light at the end of the tunnell well we aren't even in the tunnell now why do people on here quote football sense fsg aren't interested the business is running along fine now donuts money etc and they have their yes puppet king brenny in charge him and Ayre are a couple of fun boys

03 Jun 2015 17:04:17
Spot on, Kman! If neville has seen this as a dumb decision then why do the owners and the "Pro BR no matter what" brigade don`t see this decision as dreadful. If refusing to accept failure and mediocryt, is me not supporting the club and manager and being negative then like you, sign me up. I hope our club can succeed in spite of this show of cowardice BUT the hard questions are not being asked and i think weren`t asked by or to the owners. How will top players come here when you have BR as manager? How will some members of the squad he has frozen outor who are fed up with him due to his ego and feckless policies react to this? How will the fans take this? How could they allow him to continue, knowing full well he may fail again in six months and would have to sack him then hence, wasting a whole season? Answers, FSG?

03 Jun 2015 02:03:45
Tom Werner enters the boardroom early. Brendan is waiting with his pocket watch dangling.

look into my eyes Tom, don't look around the eyes look into my eyes Tom. And your under.

Firstly I want Benteke because he is a great shot stopper and a beautiful young man.

The boy Ings great hair, beautiful young man he will look great in the away kit.

Milner great centre half, reads the game beautifully, beautiful young man.

Also looked the boy Raheem in the eye earlier he was out again last night, it's ok though gave him some moisturiser, beautiful young man.

Ok Tom when I click my fingers you will wake up and sign this wee bit of paper giving me full control of transfers.

Snap

03 Jun 2015 01:22:41
i don't understand the owners keeping BR as our manager, they must be able to see that the team this season played some of its worse football in years and it does not look like its going to get any better, i think he kept his job because of injuries to our major players and the fact suarez left, but surely they must be informed that we played so bad because we had a manager who does not have a clue, last season he had all the money any manager could wish for and he blew it on lallana ballo and paying manquillo loan wages and then does not use him, its funny if our players have a bad game BR drops them but when BR has a bad season he does not get dropped, he shouyld use this with the players, also he would have said there's players coming back from long injurys like flanno and the loan players coming back to help the team, he had all the excuses ready for the owners, i don't know about ian ayres but he would have backed BR because it would have meant he failed,

with our management team i can only see us finishing outside the top 10, mike marsh is not a good coach, i will nopt be looking forward to next season with BR as our manager, i have always thought that the owners have done a great job since they have took over but this is one mistake that will come back to bite them and they don't know how much BR can take the club backwards, the owners have to come out and tell us the reasons why they have kept some one wh failed so bad in his job, also they have to tell us what they expect of him next season maybe then the fans will back their decision, if not then they don't care about us as fans and what we think, i'm seriously thinking of showing my anger at keeping BR in his job by stopping going to the game, i don't want to watch players getting played out of position again, i want the team to play with passion instead of the players just going through the motions on the pitch, stoke showed us what players playing with passion can do to teams, i can see the same thing happening at the end next season, BR saying to the owners the reason we came 12th is because we lost a liverpool legend in stevie g and the injuries kept sturridge out as well as the other injuries and also the new players were bedding in to the team, it will be the same reasons as he gave them this season, the future does not look so good with BR still in charge, the owners need to take some resposability

03 Jun 2015 08:33:22
The season will continue as the last one finished. Stoke 6 Liverpool 1, with Crystal Palace doing the double over us.

Brendan Supporters go to Anfield and cheer for your manager.

Sensible anti Rodgers supporters go down the pub.

03 Jun 2015 17:22:32
Don`t forget his favorite, "We lost Suarez". This would never have happened at the top 5 clubs ahead of us which is how you know these owners messed up, big time. In fact at these clubs, he would have been sacked since October and forgotten about it. But here, we have commitees to do reviews and come back with NOTHING but a validation for the very thing they were reviewing. So why have the review? Only FSG can answer that?

03 Jun 2015 00:54:46
Seeing as it's looking like we'll get Milner (no-brainer signing I think) and how versatile he is. just wondering what do people think would be his best position in our team?

I know he's known to prefer a central midfield role but if we keep playing a wingback system i think he would be an ideal RWB as he has a great cross and will defend his wing solidly and link up well.

Don't think anyone really made that position their own for us this season and would like to see marko and ibe used further forward anyway.

He can tackle but I don't think he's the CDM some make him out to be. i think we'd do well to sign a proper classy one.

On another note. sad to see it's not looking like there will be an improvement in how our transfer dealings are reported/leaked early in the media. Top clubs don't have stories in papers saying "we've more-or-less signed player X" they just sign them and announce them. hopefully there's some desire at fsg to tighten this up as it looks amateurish to me and i'm just a no nothing fan.

03 Jun 2015 06:28:33
If Brendan has any sense, he would revert back to the diamond formation and use Milner and Hendo as box to box mids on either side of Lucas/Can. please do not even mention RWB or LWB on this forum. I do not want to see the team resort to desperation by going back to 3 at the back. But going by Brendan's cluelessness, i would not be surprised if Milner ended up as our 1st choice GK.

03 Jun 2015 00:38:39
So I'm just going to go out and say it. Milner would be a stupid signing in my opinion. Wages are too high, he's overrated and he's old now. Mark my words this signing will be another flop,

03 Jun 2015 00:12:49
Oh dear jasus we're stuck with rodgers ian ayre and clueless owner's for another 12 months. A man who can't motivate his team at home against utd. i'd be pretty sure the players won't be happy he's staying, well apart from joe allen, but he's
Hardly what you would call a player. Mid table here we come.

03 Jun 2015 08:34:56
Mid-table ?

That is too optimistic.

02 Jun 2015 23:49:09
With my Brasilian connections.

I hope Coutinho and Lucas leave and save their careers.

03 Jun 2015 06:31:01
U will get your wish soon enough. Lucas will probably leave this summer and Coutinho will follow suit next summer after another mediocre season under Brendan. The worst part will be watching them win trophies at their new clubs while LFC remain stuck in a deep rut under Brendan and FSG.

03 Jun 2015 09:09:03
Yuri and Indian Buzzer, you want 2 of our better players to leave?

03 Jun 2015 10:08:32
To save their careers.

If Lucas goes, Rodgers wants him out.
Coutinho will follow.

02 Jun 2015 22:18:32
Well, Its the ultimate nightmare really.

Brendan Rodgers, the idiotic transfer comitee, the lack of decision making are the first three nails in coffin and the final nail will be the 30M pound signing of Benteke.

He will of course be sacked mid season but the damage will all be done by then in this summers transfer window.

This is lowest I have ever felt as a Liverpool supporter. Normally there's always a ray of hope but I see nothing but midtable for years to come.

02 Jun 2015 22:45:28
If we sign Milner, I'm sure Rodgers will turn him into a great benchwarmer and play joe Allen wherever Milner could play.

God help us in the next few months.

I'm not for getting rid of managers after a crap game, but the last few months have been utter dross and the players look lost!

03 Jun 2015 00:54:15
Few months, more like we played well in a few games.

03 Jun 2015 02:56:20
This will end badly off the owners and we will be a truly midtable club. I propose the fans check out the comments' boards on the journo websites and see the comedic hammering our club is receiving for this poor decision. I had to laugh in irony, tbh.

03 Jun 2015 03:42:58
Why would Milner be a benchwarmer? He is going to be our 1st choice GK next season to free Migs to play as a striker. Allen will be shoehorned into a CB, RB or even a GK as long as he starts. This is coming right out of Brendan's book on cluelessness.

02 Jun 2015 22:20:43
Rodgers stays so now get behind the team. Give him till Christmas and if not any better time for king jurgen to take his throne after a well deserved break. And if it's going well then we can all be happy anyway. Ynwa

03 Jun 2015 03:03:52
If you know the guy is a failure and have an idea that he won't get better, why give him six months to screw up again? To do that would mean the season would be lost and what makes you think Klopp will come then? N btw, Klopp is not the only one who can coach us. West Ham is bringing in back to back winner of the EL Unai Emery for talks. You telling me that had we gone for him he would say no? Did we even try? The managers are out there but the owners have accepted to reward failure so BR is their prob now. For us the fans, LFC is our prob and we will stick with it.