Liverpool Banter Archive December 03 2016

 

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03 Dec 2016 19:41:52
eds prob been done to death at the time but why was it that sanchez didn't make the move as part of the suarez deal?

what a player he's turning into he's really kicked it up a notch so far this year .

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{Ed001's Note - he wanted to go to London, we tried to sign him, agreed a price etc, but he was just not interested.}

03 Dec 2016 20:15:46
He is a big fish in a relatively average pond. Arsenal have been in the CL from past 16 consecutive years and all they have to show the world is Sanchez and Ozil.
Sanchez is not even close to Hazard.


{Ed025's Note - your right about him not being close to hazard harry....hes a million light years ahead of him mate, work rate, enthusiasm, skill and entertainment value, i know your a liverpudlian but you should know better..

03 Dec 2016 20:50:25
Sorry Ed025, I never knew you visit here at this time mate 😎. A big hug to you lol. Sanchez is ok to me mate.


{Ed025's Note - best player in the prem mate..

03 Dec 2016 21:23:25
have to agree ed sanchez is miles ahead of hazard even in the title winning season he was good but not world class for me he just in that bracket below needs to add more open play goals to his game a lot of his goals have came from pens this season he has added to that but still no were near sanchez .


{Ed025's Note - your spot on there for me adam, hazard is excellent but alexi is of a higher echelon mate, with messi, ronaldo and suarez being just that little bit higher again..

03 Dec 2016 21:34:53
Ed25, you have to know that Harry is a closet Chelsea fan. Btw, I agree with you. Hazard is not even on the same planet as Alexis. He is perfect for any system and would more than thrive in our system. Hazard is a very good player has a patheti attitude and would not want him here. Alexis, I'd take him tomorrow.


{Ed025's Note - hes a level above hazard for me hamilton mate..

03 Dec 2016 22:02:51
yea bang on ed just there with bale an neymar but i wouldn't be surpized come the end of the season if he's pushed himself into that bracket at the very top just seems to be getting better ever game very suarez like in hows he's playing but if suarez had the pace that sanchez has he'd be the best in the world hands down for me.


{Ed025's Note - i cant argue with that mate..

03 Dec 2016 23:10:20
The fact that alexis is in the conversation for best player in the prem is saddening lol. he's quality but nothing incredible.


03 Dec 2016 23:17:03
Agreed with ed, not sure how anyone can debate that, he is an all round better player than hazard. Sanchez makes a team play better and performs even when the rest of the team are average like Suarez. Hazard has a mental breakdown when he and everyone else is not playing well. Last season he was dreadful, you would never see that sort of form from Sanchez. He is the leagues best player, and he is world class along with a few others in the league. I just saw Alan shearer avoid the question of whether he was world class and he eventually said if he wins arsenal the league he would then be world class which is testament to his delusion. He of all people should know football is a team game. Using his logic Suarez wasn't world class when he was at Liverpool lol.


04 Dec 2016 09:05:28
I think david silva has to be best player in league tbh but still a great player.


03 Dec 2016 19:33:30
Of all the players we could of signed Ed. Who out of the ones that got away would you of liked us to of signed.

Also of all previous players still playing, who would you bring back?

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{Ed001's Note - Alexis Sanchez and no one now.}

03 Dec 2016 19:51:09
Probably C. Ronaldo.


03 Dec 2016 20:07:26
I'd bring back Alonso in a heart beat!


03 Dec 2016 20:17:05
Adam got that spot on. Sanchez is kool but Alonso is on another plane to everyone. Once he take control of that midfield the world stops to watch him.


{Ed025's Note - rose tinted glasses...alonso was a class player though..

03 Dec 2016 20:51:35
Ha ha Ed025, I bet Ed01 will eat you alive for his dinner. He is the biggest fan of Alonso 😎😎.


{Ed025's Note - hes a big sanchez fan as well harry, we dont argue that much, only over who is "the peoples club" really mate.. :)

04 Dec 2016 07:35:23
Harry you don't agree with me if you would rather have Alonso than Sanchez! That is a no brainer, Sanchez is the best forward in the league. Alonso is arguably still the best holding midfielder in the world, but he has just turned 35. So whilst I would take Alonso back tomorrow, I would take Sanchez if it came to a straight choice! Both are world class though.


04 Dec 2016 11:11:18
Sanchez will overkill our already firing attack Adam. Alonso at the base with Henderson pressing high up is a dream pair in that midfield. Xabi will take full control of that midfield and that is enough for me.


03 Dec 2016 18:50:18
Being thinking about the Xabi, Xavi debate yesterday and my believe that Alonso is the best allrounder.
While we wait for the match tomorrow, thinking of the Jamie song and shirts, which players from LFC and world football would you clone and make 10 of to play all outfield positions, I'm going to stick to my guns with Alonso for both world and LFC.

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03 Dec 2016 19:48:42
Zidane and can't really look past Gerrard as he was world class and did play in quite a few different positions.


03 Dec 2016 20:18:52
Alonso was the best CM we had in the last two decades and probably the second best CM after Souness in our history.
Gerrard was the most complete midfield player we ever had!


03 Dec 2016 21:37:43
Wrong, Harry. SG was not the most complete midfielder in 2 decades at LFC. That would be Alonso. Why? He made SG a better overall player. The pupil cannot be greater thant the he master. That makes no sense.


{Ed025's Note - no argument from me there..

03 Dec 2016 23:30:28
I would have to disagree, alonso was brilliant, especially at what he did but those types of players have to be accomedated to an extent. Whilst he had more to his game than scholes, pirlo, xavi etc, he still needed gerrard or someone like mascherano to allow him to flourish and do the other aspects of a midfielders job. That's why I would say gerrard is a better all round player than scholes because gerrard didn't need to be accomedated. Gerrard was still world class before and after Alonso was here. People like scholes needed Keane and carrick otherwise there would be necessary parts of the midfield missing with a player like scholes, who was perfect at what he did best, but rubbish at the other things a midfielder needs to do. Gerrard was simply better than him at most parts of a midfielders role. I would carry the same arguement to alonso. It's just about what type of player you prefer, I prefer a match winner. If gerrard left for Madrid or Chelsea it wouldn't even be a debate. All the counter arguments against him would be eradicated because he would of been even better with those types of players around him and would have achieved titles that people hold against him. Gerrard stayed and for that, as a Liverpool fan, he is the best for 2 decades, closely followed by alonso.


04 Dec 2016 01:55:56
As a goal scoring midfielder Gerrard was
far superior.
Under Benitez Alonsos job was to get the ball to Gerard asap and he was the best we had at doing that.
Souness would have left them both maimed. Badly injured in hospital.

Him and the old war horse Tommy Smith.


04 Dec 2016 02:26:58
I don't know about that Hamilton, afterall Vader was once the apprentice but when he met up with Obiwan years later, he was the master.


04 Dec 2016 02:33:38
This thread has gone off on a Xabi Alonso tangent again.
The original thread was asking which player of LFC's past would you pick to play in all 10 outfield positions. Whether Alonso was the most complete midfielder is immaterial.
Alonso never played as a winger, Gerrard thrived there. Alonso never played as a fullback, Gerrard had a few games there. Gerrard was probably our best player before Alonso arrived and after Alonso left. He did not rely on Alonso.


04 Dec 2016 11:13:38
Hamitlon.

Xabi did not make Gerrard anything. Gerrard was here before Alonso and after he left to Madrid.
There is no posiition on the pitch Gerrard couldn't play. That makes him the most complete midfield player ever!


04 Dec 2016 12:16:15
Sorry Ron, i'm confused - does that mean Jay Spearing was Yoda?


04 Dec 2016 12:49:27
Lol gerrard was not the complete midfielder, he was excellent but he lacked concentration and often ball watched while players ran past him in midfield. Offensively yes he was our best midfielder and probably should have been a wide forward as shown when he supplied the ammo for torres for a season and scored goals etc.

If you cloned gerrard we would be strong offensively but defensively the team would lack concentration and leak goals as i presume he would ball watch in defence too. Swings and roundabouts as they say. With an alonso team we would be strong both defensively and offensively but maybe not as prolific as a gerrard team going forward. And if you are looking for a complete midfielder you will not find a better candidate. Lots of rose tinted gerrard fans i think.


03 Dec 2016 17:38:41
Ed. Be interesting to read your views on Stephen Warnock and Don Hutchinson if you have the time mate.

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{Ed001's Note - in what way?}

03 Dec 2016 17:58:57
As players mate.


{Ed001's Note - I don't know if I can give an unbiased view of those two, as I used to know them.

Warnock was never the same after Ged broke a promise to give him a run, it seemed to kill his confidence. Before that he had been a promising player, with a very good cross. Never looked a world beater, but worked hard, liked to get stuck in and could provide a decent delivery. Was a good back up for the left side, as he could play both midfield and defence.

Hutchinson is one of those players I have little time for. He was talented, big and strong, but was far more interested in living it up and exposing his private parts in public places. Nothing but a troublemaker, when he could have been an excellent player. Wasted talent.}

03 Dec 2016 18:30:27
As always Ed. Appreciate it mate. I liked Warnock, thought he was a solid left back. Seemed to not live up to it when he moved. Aston Villa if I remember right?


{Ed001's Note - I think so, if I remember correctly. I remember him going to Coventry on loan, after coming back from a broken leg. Then he came back to Liverpool and had a chat with Ged in the summer and was promised he would get chances, as there was a few offers on the table for him. Ged was fond of breaking promises to players sadly. You couldn't trust him at all. Though, thinking back on it now, Warnock did pick up another leg break just after this, which also held him back, I think. Always seemed a nice lad though Warnock.}

03 Dec 2016 20:38:50
Sorry to sound Dumb Ed1, but who is Ged?


{Ed001's Note - Gerrard Houllier.}

03 Dec 2016 21:33:15
Thank You Sir.


{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

04 Dec 2016 02:04:51
I think Ged was a poor manager.
Very manipulative.

The way he used the press to covertly brief on his behalf to undermine Roy Evans, Robbie Fowler, Also claiming that he discovered Stevie G.

It would be like Klopp stating that he discovered Ben Woodurn when the lad has been in the youth and international set ups for years.


03 Dec 2016 22:45:11
Ed, didn't Warnock come back from Coventry the year Rafa arrived and Ged was sacked? Not trying to defend him, but maybe Ged made the promise and was then sacked? I always liked Warnock and was a bit disappointed to see him go. Honest player and a good squad player.


{Ed001's Note - no he defo broke the promise, 100% on that.}

04 Dec 2016 09:16:13
Afternoon ed01 hope you're well mate.
Regarding Hutchison it's always interested me as living here in South Africa he tends to do commentary and punditry for the Premier League a lot. He's always come across as a fella that's stuck up his own arse. Even yesterday in the build up to the weekends action he kept belittling Leroy Rosenoir so much so that the presenter had to ask him why he was acting like that. And his constant defence of Slaven Bilic is getting embarrassing at this stage. Another case of pundits with agendas.


{Ed001's Note - he was not the most likeable of people I have to say. I do find it difficult to like people like him. Ones that have it all but choose to piss it up against a wall rather than making an effort. The type that will skip training for a drinking session and laugh at the fans. Jimmy Bullard is another one. Lee Hendrie was another. Selfish pricks who think the world owes them a living.}

04 Dec 2016 09:20:51
Ok thanks ed. I take you word for it.

Worst thing you can do as a manager of any kind - break your promises.

Have a lovely day everybody.


{Ed001's Note - it does depend. Sometimes you have to break a promise when you have been let down by the person you promised. However, in this case, this was just another Houllier mistake. He would use these kind of things to motivate people, but then not follow them through as he was distracted by a 'new Zidane' or something. Shame because he did some good things with us and loves Liverpool and really wanted to succeed, but he was not a man manager and could not relate to the players.}

04 Dec 2016 09:46:14
Yeah i agree, in some cases the actions of a person can make it impossible to keep your promises.

Overall would you say that Ged left Liverpool in a better place than when he took over? For all his faults i always thought so but at the same time i often wondered if we would have been better of keeping Roy Evans and just giving him some proper support instead of undermining him completely.


{Ed001's Note - Ged made us worse, he destroyed the youth set up and first team squad with poor signings and even worse coaching. We were in a much better place under Roy Evans, it just needed a little investment and backing of the man in charge. Instead money was thrown at Houllier and he threw it away.}

04 Dec 2016 11:49:21
Bruno Cheyrou.
La Tallec
Pongolle
Biscan
Diof and his mate
Djimmy Trarore
And on and on

Chased Robbie to leads breaking the lads heart.
Let Stevie Mac run diwn contract to go to madrid
Let Micha Owen fist the club.

Ive said it before the biggest mistake the club made was in not bringing Kenny back at that time to work with Roy.


05 Dec 2016 10:00:32
Late answer here ed001. You really have a great collection of sites here and it really is quite unique. Thanks for taking the time to enlighten me and countless of others again and again. I can't think of another place where you can communicate directly with resourcefull persons about important stuff like e. g. Liverpool FC ;) I highly appreciate it! Been here nearly daily for years going back to the start - i post now and then but not that often. But i rarely leave this place without emotions. Sometimes it may be something funny that Harry said under a new alias, it may be something that offended me or it may be something that made me see things clearer or in a diffent perspective. It is just great.


{Ed001's Note - thank you very much. I really appreciate that.}

03 Dec 2016 15:14:00
Chelsea get soo many appludits but they're such an ordinary side. Man city truly exposed defensively. Aquero again losing his cool with a shocking tackle and city's best player now unavailable for 4 games.
Great incentive for us to kick on.

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03 Dec 2016 15:19:03
Let's not forget arsenal lads. They're a good side. I still think this is our year. If we can come out on top after spells without Coutinho and Mane then I think it's ours.


03 Dec 2016 15:22:53
Too right tjred.


03 Dec 2016 15:28:25
That's the key. How we manage the next two months without Coutinho initially and then Mane, later. I'm confident about Origi. It's the ideal opportunity for him to seize center stage. It's Sturridge that is the main worry. He'll be needed; and in peak physical and mental condition.


03 Dec 2016 15:30:20
Man Citys poor defense made Chelsea look good. They had 2 shot on target with 10 minutes left in the game. Neither side worry me.


03 Dec 2016 15:31:58
But nah, you still won't hear concerns from pundits about City's defence in relation to their title bid.


03 Dec 2016 15:33:02
An ordinary side getting extra ordinary results Big Al? I thought they were brilliant in the second half and credit is where it is due.
Instead of moaning and making excuses Conte has got them play to his system in absolutely no time.


03 Dec 2016 15:33:03
Anthony Taylor had an absolute mare, City should have been comfortable by half time and they only have themselves to blame but that was a dreadful performance by the ref.


03 Dec 2016 15:33:47
Correct me if I am wrong. A very ordinary side won the title last season convincingly!


03 Dec 2016 15:39:17
Seriously. Chelsea worry me. 8 wins on the bounce, including tricky ties against the champions, Tottenham, Man united and away at rivals Man City.

Those results are at least as good as the ones we have had to spark such optimism about Liverpool winning the league.

I'm not being negative. I think we are the two best sides in the league. And we beat them. I'm looking forward to the battle, but certainly there is no evidence to write Chelsea off.


03 Dec 2016 17:32:27
Ridiculous. Chelsea have been excellent and are on top on merit. They have also played all of the other top 7 sides and have an easy 5 fixtures coming up and have a bigger squad than us. I think we have our work cut out particularly with Coutinho out until the new year, to stay close to them going into the new year.


03 Dec 2016 17:34:48
Don't write them off Joe no but I certainly don't fear them. City could've had 4 today and Luiz should've been sent off. Thought the ref did Chelsea a massive favour there even Luiz knew it. They were lucky not to concede more against Spurs and even Boro should've had a couple against them. Mark my words they will start to drop points very soon, they are massively riding their luck.


03 Dec 2016 20:06:49
Chelsea only impressed me in the way they took their chances but again, not surprising because they have the front line to do the business at any moment. They are on top on merit and nothing else.

However, I will say that they got completely hammered and exposed today and City should have been out of sight had they taken their chances and had the ref not completely bottled it and sent the awful David Luiz off. Their wingbacks were shown up as average and Kante was being owned in midfield as Fabregas was a ghost all game and offered no defensive help to Kante. Pep got his tactics right but was betrayed by luck and his defense.

Conte on the other hand, did nothing to change the game while his team was getting swamped and trust me, they won't be this lucky all season.


{Ed025's Note - hmmm, the green eye of the little yellow god would be a good read for you hamilton.. :)

03 Dec 2016 20:21:18
I really can't believe Hamilton just said that Chelsea finished an intense 90 mts at Ethihad being lucky in between scoring 3 goals.
Oh My.


{Ed025's Note - oh my indeed..

03 Dec 2016 21:31:53
Did you watch the game Harry? If city had taken their chances when they were on top, which was most of the game, this would be a different conversation. Fair play to Chelsea who played very well on the break but it should have been over. Luis was a very lucky man also.


03 Dec 2016 21:41:23
There's nothing green eyed about it. Just facts. LFC thumped City 4-1 at the Etihad last season without breaking a sweat so I'm more than cool with that. Had City taken their chances, the smugness in your post would have disappeared.


{Ed025's Note - you stated that chelsea got battered yet they won 3-1?, hmmm thats not smugness mate,,,its sanity..

04 Dec 2016 07:53:03
Rose tinted specs lads. I don't care how you do it, 8 straight wins in bpl with 3 goals conceded beating city, Utd, Spurs, Everton in the process? That's form to respect and certainly not to discount. If that had been our run, people would be waxing lyrical.

It's shaping up to be an exciting season for us but dictediring Chelsea and their run is ignorant.


04 Dec 2016 11:11:21
It is your year 😂😂😂😂.


03 Dec 2016 13:28:00
Anybody watching the City vs Chelsea game has a reason to be confident this season. City clearly suspect at the back with the terrible John Stones and I can't see Chelsea winning the league with Cahill and Moses being relied upon!

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03 Dec 2016 14:00:22
It'd be a huge mistake to undersestimate Chelsea. Moses is having the best season of his career and Cahill is, well, Cahill. But this team is mentally tough.


{Ed001's Note - they have been lucky as hell, how often does a player like De Bruyne miss from less than 5 yards out? How many times have they got lucky ricochets in the box? They are not a particularly good side, they get cut apart time and time again, it was the same against Spurs. Their luck will run out eventually.

As for City, they are just a joke defensively, wide open to simple passes that are not even good balls, but none of the defence reacts like defenders. Such as the second goal, Otamendi only had to drop back, but he thought like a midfielder and tried to intercept leaving a huge gap for Costa to exploit.}

03 Dec 2016 14:13:25
Pace will hurt Chelsea and the only way to beat them. City have only themselves to blame here.


03 Dec 2016 14:17:41
Agree with you on City, Ed001. But what about that Silva, eh? What a player (still)! If they do end up losing, there's going to be pressure on Pep that he hasn't seen before. Very different from just taking over Rijkaard's and Heynckes's ready made teams. ;-)


{Ed001's Note - very true. I wonder if they do a single bit of work on defending at all, as not one player has a clue how to think defensively when they haven't the ball. Pep is being shown up as the overrated coach we all wondered if he was.}

03 Dec 2016 14:31:34
Agree with Ed001, I have never seen Aguero be so wasteful with his chances when usually he is so clinical. Say what you want about or defence, but I don't believe we would have given City that many opportunities to score.


03 Dec 2016 14:34:56
And i though our defense was bad!
City were all over the place, Kolarov at CB, playing a back 2 for 30 mins? Absolute shambles when your manager tries to be too clever. Sane clearly wasted at wing back when his impact could have been ten fold up front. Pep's losing it and both Aguero and Fernandinho set to miss the next 3 games will only make it worse.
Its between us and Chelsea for now for top spot.


03 Dec 2016 14:47:31
What a classical example of how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. City had 14 shots on goal with no goals scored (own goal doesn't count) and 61% possession. Wasted chances. And a goalkeeper who doesn't look like he's up to it. Looks more and more like it's going to be between us and Chelsea.


03 Dec 2016 15:01:53
Title is ours simples.


03 Dec 2016 15:33:25
You see what I was talking about a few days ago, ed001? Not only has this exposed how defensively suspect City actually are, it has also exposed how stupid and blind so many pundits are.


{Ed001's Note - very true, at one point Neville was waxing lyrical about a great defensive clearance by Moses. What had actually happened was that Moses was stood ball watching, out of position, then suddenly noticed the ball was coming in and charged back making a risky clearance. If he had been in position, he could have made a simple and safe clearance, probably even picking out a pass if he had the composure.}

03 Dec 2016 15:48:54
Guardiola will get it right eventually, he'll learn that you can't do it like Barcelona or Bayern in the Premier League.


03 Dec 2016 16:41:26
That's the problem ed, too many British pundits seem to obsess over spectacular, marauding moves rather than excellent and efficient positional sense.

I mean honestly, at least man-for-man, could you really say City's defence is superior to Liverpool's? Otamendi and John frikken Stones are their centre backs for god's sake! And the only special things Bravo has managed this season are not for him to be proud of.

I honestly thought even guys like Stevie Nicol would be smart enough not to get sucked into the 'Liverpool's defence is a shambles! ' hysteria.


{Ed001's Note - Nicol smart? I love Nicol, but one thing he is not is intelligent. Lovely fella, but he is not the brightest. Liverpool's defence has improved markedly since Karius and Matip have been in it, conceding 5 in 7, if I remember rightly.}

03 Dec 2016 16:43:04
But yeah, praising a defender for making a last-ditch tackle or clearance after being caught out is like praising someone for cleaning up the glass they dropped on the floor before the kids could step on it.


{Ed001's Note - exactly mate, it is one of my pet hates. Sol Campbell built an international career out of it in his early days. Admittedly he did improve as he got older and more experienced, but early on he was terrible for getting caught out and using pace and power to make a last ditch tackle that he should never have needed to make.}

03 Dec 2016 17:09:49
It seems to be the reason why Smalling has been snubbed by Mourinho. Like Van Dijk, a big and fast defender with little defensive sense

I love how much I am being proven right after I told some United fans months ago, before the euros, that he is the most overrated player in the EPL.

"Nah, he's not! Smalling will prove his class at the Euros! "

And yeah, as for Nicol, I love him too. I wouldn't say he's dumb, but he's not smart either. He gets caught out by other panel members on the show so much, and he'll just adorably sit there red-faced and mumble "yeah yeah well. "

But god, even Craig Burley has been sucked in by it. I agree with him often because he tries to tell it how it is, but he goes, 'if Klopp wins the league with that defence he deserves a knighthood'. The hyperbole is insane. The problem with these guys is they make their minds up way too early and are then too proud to change their opinion. Liverpool's defence was admittedly rubbish in the first two league games, and they say 'yeah it's definitely crap and won't improve'. It's like they've been blind to how Mignolet, Moreno and Klavan have been displaced by Karius, Matip and Milner.


{Ed001's Note - they wouldn't get people talking about what they say if they didn't use hyperbole.}

03 Dec 2016 18:15:32
Lick is the residue of design. Chelsea have hit their straps and you don't win 8 on the bounce by luck alone. Look forward to their trip to Anfield. Should be great!


03 Dec 2016 18:49:57
8 straight wins. Chelsea have been playing well and they are league contenders.
Guardiola coached my favorite team, Bayern and I was very happy when he left. Playing with Kimmich and Alaba as central defenders might work in the Bundesliga. Playing with Kolarov as a cental defender and Sane as a wing back is plain stupidity IMO.
Chelsea and Arsenal are the main threats to Liverpool winning the league. Won't be surprised if Spurs give City a run for their money for the 4th position.


03 Dec 2016 19:42:30
Chelsea are a quality team, but they are nowhere near as good as Liverpool 😎.


03 Dec 2016 20:19:11
I'm loving this thread lads. Keep them coming. Chelsea were completely destroyed today as their vaunted 3-4-3 system was exposed for the shambles that it is, even more than last week when Spurs created the blueprint for destroying it. They will not be as lucky as they were today all season, because they caught as many breaks in this game as some teams get in a whole season. Conte is still tactically average and it showed clearly today, victory notwithstanding.

Pep is not that good and coaching defensive football has never being his thing. I think he just likes to reinvent the wheel by playing defenders as midfielders and switch players to play against their nature, all in a bid to prove that he somehow revolutionized the game. While all that's happening, he's being shown up as the incompetent, overrated coach he is. He will drag City down, like he did Barcelona and Bayern. As for the pundits, they are as smart as a goldfish.


{Ed025's Note - while you are the second coming.. :)

03 Dec 2016 20:42:00
I love it when people talk about Liverpools useless defence and then point out that only two teams have conceded less in the league than us.


03 Dec 2016 21:42:57
Ed25, are you stalking me?


{Ed025's Note - yes..

03 Dec 2016 22:00:58
Spot on, Polcat. City has kept 2 pathetic clean sheets in 17 games in all competitions this season. Liverpool has kept SIX clean sheets in 16 games in all competitions yet they have the better defence? Again, Pundits are as smart as a goldfish.


04 Dec 2016 02:14:10
The unpredictably of the prem league along with no winter break is going to take Pep and a few others further out of their comfort zones.


04 Dec 2016 09:41:31
But guys there's a madness to this last ditch tackle, no one wants to see a defender do his job properly, stay in position and sweep up tidily, we wanna see land speed records broken as he attempts to go back and we wanna see him break the long jump records as he's sliding to the ground, it also makes them look good for playing bad, they may not be as stupid as we all think.


04 Dec 2016 11:31:08
On top of that in my opinion an injury to just one of Costa, Hazard, Moses or Alonso and their backups aren't too impressive. They would have to be extremely lucky to get through the season avoiding all injuries. A very good team but their time will come to an end when the luck runs out.

On a positive note now is our chance to stay just 1 point behind cuts, and create a 3 point gap between us and city!


04 Dec 2016 11:42:42
£48m for Stones, £0 for Matip. It's not the fee but good scouting that matters.


04 Dec 2016 11:47:20
I think this a huge test of what Liverpool can do with the players out
As Man City an Chelsea haven't had major injuries yet

Are you guys really so confident with a workmanlike Liverpool team now missing the flair?


04 Dec 2016 12:22:15
We can slate City's defence, but IF and it is a big if, Kompany can get fit and play a run of games next year they will be a very different team. Also both City and Chavski can just open the cheque book in January.

We have a great chance this season, but do not underestimate these two teams.


03 Dec 2016 09:14:43
Great to see James Milner continuing to do a very good job at left back. Remember all the debate on here only a few months ago about us not signing a left back? Well done Milner.

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03 Dec 2016 09:32:25
True Fitzy, I was excited about the team but was worried about the LB situation. I was even more worried hearing Milner was going to be tried at LB and now look, he's made the position his own, he's absolute quality there. He's in a total different league to Moreno. I will back any Liverpool player up but Moreno simply isn't good enough for Liverpool.

WHEN we're in the champions league next year we can't be having players like Moreno around he's nowhere near good enough for a CL team (or Liverpool), I think by summer he'll be on his way.

Speaking of all this Eds are we showing any interest in any particular LB that you know of?


{Ed001's Note - no, I believe Milner has done enough to hold down his place so far, from what I am told, and that they like the look of the Spanish lad in the 23s (Juanma I think, though I could be getting names mixed up as that is the name of my parents next door neighbour) as the long term future there. Moreno's attitude has been excellent, so the club are happy to continue with him as back up right now.}

03 Dec 2016 10:57:04
With us having strong hopes of the U23's - Juanma you just mentioned, TAA, Woodburn, Wilson, Ojo, Ejaria, Gomes etc and the likes of Ings to come back I am truly hopeful that we don't have to make many signings moving forward and all these boys can make the step up.


03 Dec 2016 11:04:57
I think it'd be great if Milner accepts to stay in the position for the next 2-3 years. I have no idea if he would or would not. But it would be ideal for LFC - hit several birds with one stone. You get not only skill, efficiency and dedication but a stabilizing senior leadership (which is vital if we are to challenge consistently for titles) . His weakness with the left foot is something that can be worked on and not exactly a deal breaker. Daniel Alves always had clear defensive weaknesses, but it never stopped him from being considered one of the best in the World.


03 Dec 2016 09:45:27
Sounds good to me Ed1, Milner is sound as a pound in that position so I'm happy with that and to be fair I can't see many doing any better then he has done.


03 Dec 2016 12:08:11
Just wondering if Ed001 has any insight into whether Milner would be happy to carry on at left-back instead of midfield?


{Ed001's Note - he is growing into it mate. He likes that he is playing well and realises that he suits a wide role, and understands it.}

03 Dec 2016 12:29:45
Not a big moreno fan but deserves credit for his attitude.


03 Dec 2016 13:33:02
If we get a new lb back in the summer maybe move Milner to right back to replace clyne? I'm sure he'd have better end product and is positionally sound.


03 Dec 2016 15:03:28
Why replace clyne when we have Trent who can do the job. Keep Milner as LB. push Trent in.


03 Dec 2016 19:51:30
Fair play to Milner for his professionalism, he was one player I was very frustrated with last season but he has turned into a real leader on the pitch, has won us a good few points with his peno's too. What I find most amazing with him was the fact that he joined Liverpool essentially to play in the centre of midfield, and it wasn't really working for him last season I felt, but he made me relaxed about the LB position, which has been a real trouble area for Liverpool since Riise left quite frankly. Long may it continue for both James and Liverpool. Well done our VC Milner. YWNA.


04 Dec 2016 02:18:51
Milner is like a duracel battery
He just keeps at it constantly.
That consistency then works its way through the team.
Milner for me is one of our most important players.


04 Dec 2016 07:07:47
Ben Chilwell .

Anyone remember him? No? 😄.


04 Dec 2016 09:42:56
Ed1 I'd love it if you could do a bit of tapping up and make your parents next door neighbor re evaluate his life decisions and play for the pool.


{Ed001's Note - I am not so sure he is the answer. Though Sergio Ramos has a house down the road.....}

04 Dec 2016 11:45:54
Milner is a model pro, works hard and has acquitted himself brilliantly at left back. He's also a good man to have in the squad because of he's a wise head. Good management by Klopp to look at his squad and what he can get from them than wasting money unnecessarily.


04 Dec 2016 17:41:29
Sergio Ramos confirmed, put your house on it.


03 Dec 2016 05:31:05{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Previews

Believable6 Unbelievable2

03 Dec 2016 07:05:36
As always, brilliant ed1 thank you mate.

Hoping for a city Chelsea draw today!


{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed.}

03 Dec 2016 08:36:28
Brilliant preview Ed01. Some tricky fixtures there on Saturday. Sunderland vs Leicester would be interesting.


{Ed001's Note - thank you mate. Probably not as tricky as it is to find something new to write about each team every week though!}

03 Dec 2016 08:51:07
Hahaha - Ed001 trying desperately not to copy paste copy paste paste.

Really appreciate all the effort that goes into keeping this site the only footy site worth its salt.


{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. It is actually not so bad, as it gives me an excuse to talk to people involved with the clubs in the hope of getting some interesting info at the same time. I was just winding Harry up as he was the one who got me doing them! They do take a while to put together, but they are fun to do.}

03 Dec 2016 09:20:35
Ed001 -Yes, but all the efforts are very much appreciated. This is why I am addicted to these pages. I read a lot of other sites, but this is the only one with a minimum amount of cr*p (excuse the language) . The info is always current and most importantly, very relevant. And the "community" nature of the pages just adds to the attraction. LFC owes a lot (and I don't mean it mildly) to these pages because it revives and maintains almost "blind devotion" (I mean that in a good way) in the club, as has happened in my case.


{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, that is a really nice thing to say.}

03 Dec 2016 09:24:51
I used to look at the BBC previews (having to click on each fixture) They have all that information per preview yet you somehow put more or less everything they put (much better put I might add) in 2 paragraphs AND all on one page, they need to take a leaf out of your book mate and give you a job to do it for them properly. When you actually look at their previews all it is, simply quotes from the managers, a few stats and a couple of sentences about fitness, a whole lot of information but not really informative. Spot on mate, it's appreciated.


{Ed001's Note - thank you, I am glad that people like them.}

03 Dec 2016 09:47:49
I just love the fact it isn't click bait. Most others sites would post a link to a title page, then make you click through multiple slides that have to re-load each time, with each slide rammed full of pictures, ads and videos just to slow it down!


{Ed001's Note - I don't even bother adding pics to these, as there doesn't seem to be any need for an article like this.}

03 Dec 2016 10:53:27
What's next ED01. How about a match analysis by the Editors on their respective pages? A common thread and all the posters can have their opinions under it? 😎.


{Ed001's Note - could be an idea. I would have to talk to the other editors to see if they are ok with doing it, but it could well work.}

 
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