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03 Aug 2015 20:13:24
Hopefully Traore rumours are true. Always great to see one of our previous players return to the club. also credit to Brendan for identifying we are weak at left back and bringing in a great player for competition.
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03 Aug 2015 20:50:30
Quality
03 Aug 2015 22:16:44
Isit bad that I can't help assume he's a bad player entirely because his name is Traore.
03 Aug 2015 19:57:42
I hope these traore rumours are false and he doesn't come. Its disgusting to think of the lads we have waiting to come into the 1st team are being stopped in thier progress by another pointless loan signing. Has brendan not learnt his lesson that his loan signings are sh!te. Manquillo, cissiko,sahin, yet all the time we've had decent young lads raring to go. Pointless.
03 Aug 2015 20:24:38
He would be an archetypal LFC signing under Rodgers. Talented, young, not needed and will eventually leave, frustrated.
03 Aug 2015 22:30:45
I think you'll find that with all the teams that finished above us.
It's not necessarily a Rodgers thing.
Fair enough, Wenger has a go, but the rest treat the youth poorly.
03 Aug 2015 23:00:07
Gotta disagree with this. I think he is somewhat needed as we clearly do lack in genuine out and out wingers with raw pace who can get to byline and cross the ball. This is especially important as we may need to adapt, at times, to the aerial threat of our 32.5m striker.
And to be fair OP, all the loan signings you mentioned, we were in need of at the time. There were not any youngsters coming through to strongly challenge the current first team RB, LB and CM positions at the time. Where Rodgers' fault was in not playing these loan players in their natural positions - Sahin should not have been consistently played at CAM, Manquillo is not a RWB, Cissokho just turned it to be poor considering he was decent at previous clubs.
Whatever happens with Traore, let's give Stoke a big surprise this weekend and field a team they can't contain!!!!!
03 Aug 2015 23:29:54
AG has covered all the basis there, I'm afraid.
03 Aug 2015 23:31:28
I appreciate your opinion guys but all the coaching staff we have see these young lads day in day out everyday, if these guys were good enough they would be there, now don't get me wrong there are plenty good enough but not all, and all are not quite ready either, is it really any harm having another young lad come in and have 3/4 18yr olds busting there balls to make sure there the one the manager picks. he's not going to cost us a fortune but in the long run it could be pivotal survival of the best.
03 Aug 2015 23:39:04
Max they're not all bad. Don't forget victor Moses
04 Aug 2015 08:21:55
Why do you feel the need to allude to other teams when we talk about our youth policy, Davey? We have no connection to how other teams do business.
03 Aug 2015 19:11:37
Sorry Ed, I'm sure you're sick and tired of these Adama Traore questions but is our interest in a loan or a transfer?
Thanks and apologies again
{Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}
03 Aug 2015 19:37:20
Ah I see! "LEND" him out do it would be a loan
03 Aug 2015 20:08:48
It is madness to again loans in a player just for the he'll of it. No matter how good this kid is we should be playing the extremely talented players we already have in that position. I sometimes think Rodgers thinks just like most of the fans that the person with the most new signings wins the transfer window. How about we keep our youngsters happy and not do Barcelona'S dirty work for them.
03 Aug 2015 23:33:17
Don't waste your time, jzra. BR's idea of bringing youth through is buying other youth to play ahead of our youth and then frustrate them to the point that they leave like he did Sinclair and Suso and many will suffer the same fate.
04 Aug 2015 01:25:39
You guys do realize Suso has not accomplished anything since his move right? Maybe he was just not good enough? I agree our youth policy is trash but Suso has disappeared.
{Ed001's Note - he was badly handled and that was always going to happen to him.}
04 Aug 2015 08:03:40
Badly handled? And that's why he is where he is lol
Of he was as good as was made out by others on here then he would be showing it over in Italy.
He got his pay check and they really wanted him and he still can't get in the team
{Ed001's Note - that is simply not true. It doesn't work like that. Just being good enough is not the only thing that matters. It is an ignorant viewpoint to suggest it is that simplistic.}
04 Aug 2015 09:51:55
Ok.
So if your good enough you won't make it as a player, does that mean if your not good enough you will.
Should I go resign and drive to Melwood?
{Ed001's Note - so are you just being stupid for the sake of it? Or are you really too dense to understand the last portion of the post about it being too simplistic a viewpoint means?}
03 Aug 2015 18:41:37
Eds.
If there are any leg on this Traore rumour, would it be we're going to actively look to sell Markovic? Or loan out Ibe? Or both or something else entirely? We don't need anymore attack minded midfielders unless a few move on!
03 Aug 2015 19:09:08
I'll be really annoyed if we end up loaning out Ibe!
03 Aug 2015 19:04:01
Ibe isn't going anywhere. he'll be one of first names on team sheet. As for marko. he needs a loan in my opinion or if we could recoup full money let him go.
03 Aug 2015 19:22:31
Ibe is not going anywhere. He will play a lot of games this year and he will cause many a full back nightmares.
Markovic could do with a loan, might get him back the confidence he has obviously lost. He is far from a bad player but, as it stands now, he is not making it at LFC.
03 Aug 2015 18:18:35
Ed001, what are your thoughts on Joe Allen? Don't think he's very consistent myself.
{Ed001's Note - I just think he is complete anonymous for us far too often. He needs to be a metronome in midfield, with everything going through him, but Allen is simply not quite good enough to do that job for us. Without any physicality, no real skill or agility, he has nothing to make up for the lack of vision and passing range. It is not that he is a bad player, Allen is just not good enough for us and all he does is take up space in the team that could be given to a better player, such as Teixeira.}
03 Aug 2015 21:04:51
Spot on, Ed! he is a good player because after all, he has had some big games for us. But he is not consistent nor skillfull enough to play and make an impact at a big clubI however turst that BR will find a way to force him down our throats
03 Aug 2015 22:00:36
But isn't this the problem that so many fans have with BR, buying and playing the wrong players and sometimes even in the wrong positions.
Joe Allen, great pro wrong for Liverpool simple as that but a manager who no matter what wants to start him.
03 Aug 2015 23:28:09
Or to put it differently and with, I suspect BRs view: He doesn't loose you any games. (Although he sure doesn't win you any either)
2 draws equals 2 points
1 win 1 loss equals 3 points.
Go for it guns blazing I say :-) and then maybe in CUP 2 legged games settle for a draw away
03 Aug 2015 18:23:32
I've heard ardama traore is very highly rated and was top of the assists last season in Spains second division. So eds why are Barcelona letting him go? And what will be bring to our team? Could he potentially play this season?
{Ed002's Note - They are willing to lend him out to get game time.}
03 Aug 2015 20:04:59
Naturally, Liverpool will be a place to avoid if game time is their aim for the boy.
03 Aug 2015 18:01:10
Hi eds are we close to secure the deal for traore ? Thanks
{Ed002's Note - I have no way of measuring close.}
03 Aug 2015 18:35:47
Is the interest real, and are we currently in negotiations?
Thanks in advance.
Ollivander
{Ed002's Note - Certainly Liverpool have shown an interest in him.}
03 Aug 2015 19:23:50
I don't see how we would convince Barca to loan him to us without guaranteed playing time. oh wait.
03 Aug 2015 19:40:09
Absolutely bizarre. Loaning in another midfielder when we have literally dozens
03 Aug 2015 20:05:43
He will be this years Luis Alberto. Rodgers working his "magic" again.
03 Aug 2015 23:34:57
Or this year's Markovic
03 Aug 2015 17:40:01
Despite all my moaning and deep-seated reservations about Brendan and half of the playing staff. It has reached that point where deep down I can feel that glimmer of real excitement. l know that I am doomed to disappointment as swans turn to geese in the course of the season but maybe just maybe this could be a good one. Brendan is quaffing in the last chance saloon, he will be a driven man. I would have Milner, Benteke , Henderson , Ings, in my corner for a scrap any day. So maybe we can physically roll over a few teams now rather than the perfect through pass to a large midget as was our
previous tactic . So bring it on and let's wipe out the deep shame of Stoke by thrashing them with football and then kicking them all over the shop.Come on you big reds let's get ready to rumble ( or grumble if it all goes pear shaped)
03 Aug 2015 19:17:08
After 20 odd years of expecting more from Lfc than they usually deliver (most of Rafa era excluded) i now take a more measured approach to a new season or even new signings. Never get too far ahead of myself or too down in the dumps. I guess Liverpool will win the league again some day, probably when i least expect it! i'm not expecting fireworks this season but i can't see us being as bad as last season. I would be happy with 4 at the back and 2 sitting in front of the defence and try and make us bloody hard to break down if it meant we won more games. I would fore go all the fancy football if it meant a league title but that's just me. I have to be honest tho, i have got to the stage long ago where i think Rodgers hasn't a clue what the #### he is doing!
03 Aug 2015 19:57:59
Looking at the high numbers of players coming in again, and a few youngsters on the verge, I expect we will see a different League XI and a cup / Europe League XI.
In terms of formation, it's difficult to predict. A 4/4/2 diamond, 4/1/2/3 or 4/2/1/3 ?
Whatever it is, I just want to see a return to the fast start, high intensity press, then slow, slow, quick / counter-attacking style that we enjoyed in 2013/14.
That gave the club its identity back, I felt.
And, after last year, that is something we need to regain.
That would do me. Anything else, a bonus.
Let's start enjoying the game again.
03 Aug 2015 21:21:44
Totally agree with you guys.
May sound cliche -- but one game at a time. Haha!
Imperative that we get an away win at Stoke to start the season off.
03 Aug 2015 17:05:30
hi all, have not posted in quite some but I do be on everyday, I was wondering if edd1 would have any information on Ryan McGloughlin? how's his football coming on I haven't heard anything regarding him in quite a while and he was a young player with plenty of promise I was beginning to admire, cheers if you know anything.
{Ed001's Note - he has struggled with injuries mate, I expect him to go out on loan again this season.}
03 Aug 2015 19:25:15
He played in a few of the U21 preseason games as a winger. Good luck to the lad.
03 Aug 2015 20:06:58
Injuries. I expect him to be sold. Randal has overtaken him for the U21s.
03 Aug 2015 21:32:47
Might have been another Randall but didn't he have a trial game at Portsmouth this summer? Prospective loan maybe eds?
03 Aug 2015 23:21:05
cheers ed and co, I really hope it works out for him hate to see the lad fizzle out.
03 Aug 2015 17:15:36
Terms agreed with Barcelona for Adama Traore's Loan. Didn't see this one coming but seems logical if one of Markovic or Ibe is loaned. A Powerful, skillful and an extremely fast winger. Good one in my humble opinion.
03 Aug 2015 17:28:43
Makes no sense to me to loan one player in and one out! Pretty daft if true.
03 Aug 2015 17:31:36
Seen this reported in a few places. We're soon going to be able to fill the stands at Anfield with our squad. I know he's rated as one of Barca's best youngsters, but seriously what is the point? Unless this means Lallana and Markovic are off, it's a complete waste in my opinion.
03 Aug 2015 17:46:44
He is a beast of a player and one the best in that academy. I don't believe barca would just let him go for free.
03 Aug 2015 17:52:06
I've seen it reported as a permanent move,not a loan.
03 Aug 2015 18:35:26
There are loads of nonsense reports, the one I read said barca are demanding first refusal on coutinho.
03 Aug 2015 20:07:57
It makes perfect sense to be Irish. It is the LFC "strategy" these days: Making no sense.
03 Aug 2015 20:25:56
That should be a "me", not a "be" in my previous post on this thread.
03 Aug 2015 23:10:38
Still,it doe's make perfect sense to be Irish AG !!!
04 Aug 2015 05:41:46
In a weird way it does make sense in a 4-3-3 as we don't have many natural wingers besides Ibe and Firmino. Markovic isn't performing at PL standard, Ojo/Wilson have talent but young, Coutinho, Llalana are more attacking mids thann natural wingers.
The problem however is our squad is already bloated, so we either borrow him in for a season until Ojo matures or we need to sell, but if he turns out to be a true talent and changes a few games for us, then I can understand why they're considering (even if I'd rather they focussed on the real problem areas of DM, FB)
03 Aug 2015 14:55:46
just a quick question for ed01, you mentioned below in another post that we are currently looking for clubs for ilori and texeira among others, just wanted to clarify that this is for loans and not outright selling them right?
cheers
{Ed001's Note - I said they were available for a price, not that we are actively looking to sell.}
03 Aug 2015 20:21:28
Ok thanks ed i can relax now. i guess all players have their price :)
03 Aug 2015 13:58:47
Keeping up with all that is going on, including the pre-season friendlies and who is available for sale, as well as who we have brought in, I've come to a tentative conclusion of what Rodgers is trying to do.
I believe he has developed a cunning plan that even Baldric wouold be ashamed of.
We all know he wants to be known as the most innovative attacking coach (He has zero knowledge of or interest in defending).
All of the clubs buying and selling makes a perverse sort of sense if Rodgers really wants to re-introduce 4-2-4 as the system of choice.
Henderson and Milner can run better than anyone else, Can is nearly as good and Lallana also covers a huge mileage. If two men run a lot, surely they can dominate a 3 man opposition midfield. It's not as if they needed to be in 3 places at once is it? . oh!
Cna anyone please come up with a better explanation and save us from a game plan that is almost perfect apart from
1) a deep back 4 with a high press and huge gaps
2) Losing the midfield battle 37 weeks out of 38
3) Having lots of clever attackers with no space to play in
03 Aug 2015 14:22:52
1.Play high up the pitch, Ask your defenders to move forward and maintian a very little gap between the midfield and Defense.
2.Drop Skrtel as he would not suit such system.
3.Use th width and try to draw players out wide creating openings in the midle.
03 Aug 2015 15:14:42
But do you think that's Rodgers plan?
03 Aug 2015 16:23:44
Except playing skrtel that's his plan and so he bought players (full backs who are more offensive than defensive)
The reason he picked skrtel throughout last season
1. Lovren was terrible
2. Sakho is Left footed
3. There were no RCB apart from Toure and Skrtel.
03 Aug 2015 17:29:51
Loren and anyone else for that matter who plays with skrtel look terrible because simply they don't know what skrtel is going to do,he doesn't communicate and has a strange habit of taking a step forward as if he's stepping out to play offside,but then immediately taking three steps backwards leaving the rest of the defence flat footed.its quite easy to see,unless your Rogers that is.skrtel was at his best with Carrara alongside him constantly screaming at him what to do.
03 Aug 2015 17:57:57
Robbush
Disagree mate, Sakho did formed a decent partnership with Skrtel. Lovren was terrible individually. Some of the goals went through his legs. He was constantly bullied by pacy wide players ( palace , stoke ).
Y would BR ditch one of his fav signing ( Lovren ) for any other player?
03 Aug 2015 18:25:05
Robbush is spot on. BR want to play the high line YET is blind to the fact that his best CB (in his own world) is aweful and unsuitablle for such a system YET plays him there continuously, tells you all you need to know about how inept he is about defensive football.
03 Aug 2015 13:24:36
Adama Traore, Cheryshev and Illarramendi all being linked but I really hope all reports are rubbish. However, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we were to sign more midfielders, loan out some of the ones we already have and do absolutely nothing to improve our defense. :/
03 Aug 2015 17:31:02
To be fair markovic needs to go out on loan
03 Aug 2015 12:47:58
Please no more signings the youth have shown that there ready to step up.
Can looked superb yesterday along with teixera and kent.
Ibe again has shown he needs to be playing every week.
Its time to start playing these kids or everyone of them will move on.
03 Aug 2015 13:58:07
Texeira is class. his flick pass to benteke was just pure talent and technical instinct. He needs to be getting games now in the first team because that`s the only way they will learn.
03 Aug 2015 14:25:19
He should be played alongside Lucas, But that means one of Henderson / Milner drops to bench and I don't see it happening. Unlucky the lad is.
03 Aug 2015 15:46:02
which is exactly why milner was not needed in the first place. i think milner is an excellent player, but he joined at a time when teixeira should be getting games already. he's already ready to play in the first team.
03 Aug 2015 16:41:14
People Bash BR for not giving youth a chance, yet they want both Milner and Henderson to play alongside Lucas.
Someone is wrong.
This cup game excuse doesn't byte me, The moment we are drawn with a PL team, BR will have to put his strongest team out there and that could happen in any round.
We enter into the group stages of Europa league and I can't see any practice game for the youngsters.
Texiera is ready and its a fact, He wouldn't get game because Milner is assured of Central Midfeild role along with Can.
I would seriously put him alongside Lucas as he is a very cereative player with an eye for pass. What more you want from a central Midfielder?
03 Aug 2015 17:10:59
Why is Henderson undroppable though? It should be whoever is playing the best and in form should play, regardless of who's wearing the armband or has amazing skin
03 Aug 2015 17:32:04
I agree DBol. It seems to be the train of thought that certain players will play every game, which is nonsense. A good squad is required to be successful. Do we have a good enough squad? No idea.
03 Aug 2015 17:49:24
Was Gerrard dropped?
03 Aug 2015 18:27:14
EG as we said on another thread, it is why signing milner was a truly DAFT idea and we are starting to see the repercussions of such pointless signings of which we have many of them
03 Aug 2015 19:01:47
Last season Gerrard was dropped plenty of times.
03 Aug 2015 19:20:13
Milner was not a daft signing and anyone who thinks so needs there head looking at. Milner could of been a great prem player had he not been used as a versatile player for city for too long. I remember him at Newcastle in the centre of midfield. he was superb and very gerrard like. He's going to thrive now. Why do you think city wanted him to stay so badly. city struggled a lot last season and if not for milner could possibly of lost top 4 spot
03 Aug 2015 21:41:28
personally if we play with a deep 2, i'd have tex and can, or can and hendo. though i guess tex might be more suited up the pitch. I like Milner, but i'd personally see Tex, the kids got the right attitude and top top player. I loved the look of Suso and look what happened to him. Hope Tex doesn't go the same way!
03 Aug 2015 23:31:18
Agreed 'Magico','Redohio' is talking out of his arse if he thinks Milner was a daft signing. Milners experience,leadership quality's and no nonsense approach allied to Henderson and Cans enthusiasm will prove key to our success this season,particularly in light of Gerrards departure !!!
03 Aug 2015 23:43:18
Magician, you must be on Milner's payroll or just working too hard to convince us that Milner is class by comparing him to SG. You are indeed fooling yourself. Milner offers NOTHING more than Hendo, Can and Lallana can and for his wages, won't upgrade us nor will he be a game changer like Couts can and has. He has blocked players like Can, Tex and even Lucas from getting chances. Milner was a perennial back up at City and you overstating his impact on City's fortunes does and won't change that. A player on his wages MUST be a game changer and regardless of your hyperbole, Milner is not and is still a player we don't need.
04 Aug 2015 05:47:09
Disagree 100%, Milner is an experienced PL winner that can play defensive or attacking roles. I agree in a midfield 3 I would prefer a Coutinho or Teixera type in there and Hendo/Milner makes that tough without playing one of those two a bit deeper (would be my pick), but that's a challenging problem for BR to fix and the squad is still much better with him in there.
03 Aug 2015 12:03:52
Hey Ed's just a quick one regarding or pre-season. Is there a reason we don't participate in these tournaments against top teams like Real, Barclona etc that others are? I know we seem to be trying to crack Australia, but I feel our pre-season compared to Chelsea, United etc. is a little off the pace, and doesn't really challenge our squad? Plus, surely for financial reasons it would make more sense to be playing PSG, Barca and Madrid, or do they command a higher percentage of the fees?
Many thanks as always
{Ed001's Note - because we aren't appealing enough to get the invites.}
03 Aug 2015 12:54:37
Lols. We did couple of years ago in US.
03 Aug 2015 13:28:03
we played in it last yr in US
03 Aug 2015 17:11:58
It doesn't really matter as long as we start well
03 Aug 2015 17:35:09
Sorry lads but as our half empty stadiums on this pre season show we are a club in a massive decline of popularity and have been for 25 years. It's just starting to become more rapid due to the success and big name players of chelsea and city who wouldn't have been heard of in Malaysia 25 years ago.
This season is huge for so many reasons, if we don't make top four we could start declining once again.
On a positive I believe benteke will fire us into the top four
03 Aug 2015 17:55:29
Gerrard was the soul and face of the club and had a sheer power to pull the crowd. With the recent sale of Sterling and no star names like the Aguero and Hazzard people would be reluctant to go for the match unless you are one hell of a Liverpool supporter.
I don't see a lot of sponsors and deals coming up from the Asian continent.
That's the area where UTD and Chelsea have made a strong foot.
Southampton plays good football but how many knows them outside UK? Very few who regularly follow the EPL.
We desperately need to win the league and that's a necessity.
03 Aug 2015 19:08:27
Big mick you do understand 10,000 came just to watch is train???
03 Aug 2015 22:37:25
We are on the downward spiral but not down an out just yet.
We do our tours on our terms.
Attractive enough Lol this is Liverpool football club. Nuff said.
We go Asia every couple years and American the same.
Next year's tour will be America. We have that many fans we have to try and be fair to them all. The other clubs should try selling out there own stadiums first before they go abroad.
We are Liverpool
5 times.
03 Aug 2015 11:37:21
Ed001 do you think Kent has moved ahead of Wilson in terms of development?
{Ed001's Note - probably. I think Wilson got a little overhyped due to the Welsh cap.}
03 Aug 2015 12:49:24
Kent is a year older, Wilson is fairly small still
03 Aug 2015 13:32:15
I said it last year or the year before when I was doing the youth reviews after the matches. He's a fantastic prospect and was one to watch out for. His positional sense even 2yrs ago was fantastic and can play any position from back to front excluding centre half. Comfortable too with both feet. If he carries on developing at the same rate he'll be some player
03 Aug 2015 22:37:57
Kents the one. Said it from day one :)
Watch that boy in a couple of years. Buzzing he's ours.
03 Aug 2015 11:34:10
Hey ed01, thanks for the earlier response regarding Kovacic. I have a footballing question for you now!
Quite often, you would see a cross or a sharp pass from the wing coming in a little behind the striker, especially when both players are moving at high speed. I see that this sparkles intense forum discussions on the usual topic among fans - WHO IS TO BLAME.
I am curious to know what is the opinion among people who know the game - who is usually considered at fault? The midfielder for not aiming the pass/cross correctly, or the striker for not positioning properly? Or, more likely - the lack of cohesion between players.
A very ambigious question, I know, but during pre-season I have seen it numerous times in our team, and I hope that it will go away as the players get used to each other. Origi, for instance, missed several goals because the passes were either too far in front of him, or a little back. Yesterday Benteke was in a clear position, but Lazar's pass came in behind him.
{Ed001's Note - it depends, if the winger has looked up and checked there are people in the box, then put it into a good area, but no one gets to it. That is mainly seen as the fault of the forwards for not getting to it. But if he just pings it in without checking there is anyone there, then that is his fault for not making sure someone could get to it.
It is mainly a lack of understanding though, as the forwards have to understand a winger is only going to be able to deliver to certain places and they need to be moving to get onto it. It is very rare, in open play, that a player not moving will get to the ball first, so the forward's job is to anticipate where and when the ball will be delivered. The winger just has to make sure he hits the right areas.}
03 Aug 2015 13:00:32
Thanks ed! I think we suffered greatly in that regard last year - there simply weren't enough bodies in the box. This year things seem much more optimistic, with Benteke, Firmino and Origi looking to position themselves in the box, and Milner/Hendo breaking in as well.
However, what do you think for situations when we are talking about very small margins of error - e.g. a single step between a forward and cross? Those mistakes are most irksome to me, because easy opportunities are spurned due to something that, on the side, looks like rotten luck.
{Ed001's Note - it depends on the situation. You really have to judge each one on a case by case basis.}
03 Aug 2015 13:12:45
look at Benteke's goal yesterday as a classic example.
In the build up there was opportunity to put a cross in but it was cut out by the defender.
This was due to a poor run by a player who was trying to get on the end of the cross - eventually ended up hiding behind the defender.
In LFC's case crossing is made even more difficult by the way we play, we have long periods of possession football which allows the opposition to get back behind the ball and deny space in and around the penalty area. The most dangerous area for any cross is between he back four and the keeper, particularly if defenders are running towards their own goal. Unless you get the ball forward early or catch oppo on the break this is really difficult to achieve against a compact defence.
The usual "trigger" for a cross is the crossing player looks up, then delviers. As soon as an attacker sees the look up they make their move.
Another potential issue is how many are in the box for the cross. Most space is crated by a cross-over run or by someone arriving late - if there is one person in the box to aim for then it is easy to cut off a low cross between defence and keeper by blocking off the near post, with one person to aim for this results in the cross being "stood up" and easy for keeper to gather or difficult to put any pace on the resulting header.
in essence, I don't see crosses being a real strong point of LFC's game due to:
a) long build up
b) lack of bodies in the box
hope this helps
{Ed001's Note - that is why so many managers who emphasise possession go for wingers who cut inside, rather than get to the byline and cross.}
03 Aug 2015 16:58:20
and why so many managers who play against them then pack the width of the penalty area knowing full well if you show them inside, they run into the next defender.
Width is key as opens up space between defending players, against us I would set up with 2x wide players showing our fullbacks inside to our CBs and then playing everyone else width of penalty area.
No room to operate, no pass into feet at top of diamond, attacking play negated.
I can see how to set up against us, how does BR not?.
03 Aug 2015 17:38:54
Wingers are so 10 years ago
03 Aug 2015 11:35:16
Just saw Zola was talking about signing Balotlli for Al-Arabi in Qatar. Yyyyyyyyyyyyes Gianfranco you beautiful man, do it, please! :)
03 Aug 2015 11:33:46
Benteke 100% what we need. Will be huge for us this year. Can't wait for 2015/16 to kick off.
Come on the Reds!
03 Aug 2015 10:45:39
Ed1 do you have a list of the players we are open to offers on apart from borini and balo. i'd guess its
Ilori
Enrique
Sakho
Lucas
Allen
Markovic
{Ed001's Note - and Teixeira.}
03 Aug 2015 12:20:10
Teixeira!? Why?
{Ed001's Note - because he is highly unlikely to get regular game time.}
03 Aug 2015 12:27:32
For me Teixera has much more quality than Joe Allen. Definitely has the potential to play in central midfield or in a 10 role. Hope he gets to play this year 20 or 30 games, perhaps cups and Europe to cement himself in the squad. The less said about us being open to offers for Sakho, Lucas and Ilori the better!
03 Aug 2015 12:34:18
Teixeira? Really Ed? I thought he was highly regarded by the coaching staff?
{Ed001's Note - so is Ilori.}
03 Aug 2015 18:35:44
He is, IMO. The prob is we have BR who just buys and and buys mids till he`s blue in the face and is suddenly shocked that we are bloated in that are and several faces will have to b let go, even those who are good enuff to help us like tex, Rossiter, Can, and so on. God help us at this club!
03 Aug 2015 21:47:45
it does piss you off, We all want to see Illori play and i wanted suso to be brought in slowly, i'm hoping both Tex and Illori get game time this season. What would piss me off, if BR just says nope, not happening, they leave in January and then rogers is sacked in the summer per say. They then go on, have top careers then we all look and think, we knew the quality, BR pushed them out and now he's gone, but they are also gone!
03 Aug 2015 10:45:01
Markovic: has clearly been hitting the gym in the summer he's been much more able physically in the duel in pre season what's holding him back? Firstly his problems start with being weak and very very right footed in the game yesterday a typical example of this occurred the defender forcing him inside from the right and him literally running across the length of the 18 yard box with no danger of a shot until thankfully can or texiera helped him out with a nice run inbehind that he could play a right footed reverse to. Problem two is positioning if you play him from the left he can cut inside and threaten the goal meaning defenders have to think about that and compensate for it meaning they potentially leave themselves too open to him going straight down the line thus having two dangers. Another way is to play him centrally where he could play similarly to how sterling used to both of these options widen the pitch for him meaning he can go either way comfortably without worrying about crossing or shooting with his left, his pace can be used well the same as sterling used it to penetrate he scored in the first friendly from this position behind the strikers btw. And his third problem set is confidence because all of these things have been against him usually when he plays he's been a £20m player playing average at best mainly out of position including lwb and rwb (moronic). He has to go on loan and play centrally or when he plays for us (the Europa league team or league cup) he has to play centrally that is key no more Mr versatile no more right wing ps 001 you were right with texiera all along.
03 Aug 2015 11:40:49
You have to watch the player and his attributes before buying them. He played as a second striker at benfica pretty similar to Robben for Netherlands.
Asking him to do something else is foolishness.
If you don't have a place for him centrally, sell him.
But it would go down as the inability of the manager / scouts / committee in not identifying the player well enough.
03 Aug 2015 11:45:14
I think Markovic's problem is that currently there's no reason to put him in the team. Ibe and Lallana have both taken there chances, Coutinho's our best player and Firmino's earmarked for the first team when he settles. Markovic will be lucky to make the bench at the moment.
03 Aug 2015 12:12:15
but who would he replace Sam? Ibe, lallana, firmino would be played ahead of him on the wings as Ibe and lallana has contributed more than he did, and firmino is ahead of markovic at this point.
he was not ready when we bought him. he would have benefited from getting regular game time in his previous club.
03 Aug 2015 13:04:49
Someone here have to elighten me how is Lallana better than Markovic, Both are different players all together. Moreover, lallana lacks pace and cannot play on the flanks while Markovic's biggest weapon is Pace.
We are just trying to make sure our investmenet on lallana isn't a failure by constatnly giving him chance while Markovic equally deserve an opportunity.
lallana cannot play out wide and that's simple plain logic.
03 Aug 2015 13:54:17
EG, lallana is one of, if not the most skilful player at the club. He works his socks off too. He is clearly a better player than Markovic. Clearly.
03 Aug 2015 14:38:37
I agree Natural of his abilites, Markovic is a 20 year old footballer and has clearly 10 good year ahead of him.
How could you say Lallana took his chance well?
He was pretty poor in the last game we played when he was asked to play wide left and out only threat came from the right hand side in Ibe.
03 Aug 2015 15:55:17
lallana is the better passer, albeit not the best.
Lallana is the better creator.
lallana is the better goalscorer.
lallana is the better winger, despite not being pacy, as this isn't fifa, you don't necessarily need to be lightning quick to be one. if pace was a requirement to be great, sterling, lennon, walcott would be world beaters by now.
at the point of posting, i have seen nothing from Markovic that suggests to me he should play ahead of lallana.
although all the points are at the current situation, and yes Markovic may prove to be better in the future, it still points out that Markovic is not ahead of Ibe, Lallana and Firmino in the wide positions.
03 Aug 2015 16:39:17
I did say he should play in the Europa or cup games as like you say I wouldn't pick him ahead of any of coutinho ibe lallana firmino
03 Aug 2015 17:44:06
Confidence is everything mate and you should know that yourself if you ever played football. When you feel good in yourself and your own abilities you attempt and pull stuff off which you usually wouldn't. When you lack confidence all your passes are awful, shots are awful etc.
Most of the top players, suarez Ronaldo etc have made it because of there own confidence/arrogance/swagger
I believe markovic could be brilliant if he got his mental side right.
Perfect example of confidence having complete control over a players career is torres
03 Aug 2015 17:55:17
EG I normally find myself siding with most of what you say but have to disagree about lallana - last year was clearly a poor season by his standards but he is hardly the first person to have a difficult first season for us.
Technically he is one of the best equipped midfielders in the prem, shooting, passing and crossing off either foot, great touch and ball control, clever and with an eye for a pass. I was delighted when we signed him.
No doubt he needs to improve this year but you would expect that with a year under his belt and a better understanding of his team mates. I also think playing alongside a proper defensive mid (like he had at Southampton) would free him up to do what he does best but I suspect little chance of that unfortunately. Good news is that Lucas looked alright yesterday.
Still not sure what to think of markovic. Definitely wasted at rb and shouldn't ever be played there. But I'm worried by how little he affects the game when deployed properly. I think aside from two brilliant passes (one incorrectly ruled offside) he Had a very poor game yesterday when I hoped he'd take charge.
03 Aug 2015 20:03:33
EG, it looks like Kaizer just about covered everything concerning such a poor comparison. May I also add that Lallana is also older and more experienced than Marko. That was a poor excuse of a comparison, IMO.
03 Aug 2015 09:04:58
Hi eds I was wondering if you could add an option as where when you go into 'my profile' and view last posts, you can post onto a thread from there?
Or maybe where you can tag people's userbames so of they reply, you get a message or notification?
Thanks eds
{Ed033's Note - yes, these are the things i'm working on now. With people's feedback on the 'My Profile' section, we can create something over time that works well for all.
03 Aug 2015 11:50:32
Hi Ed. i have a few ideas to make this site more user friendly. if you like i can mail a detailed report containing proposed screen shots.
{Ed033's Note - you sound like you want to be paid. If it's for free then you can use the contact us link at the bottom of this page to contact us.
03 Aug 2015 13:27:54
Nice one Eds. These kind of changes are simple to say but a pain in the arse to do so thanks for taking it on yourselves.
I think I'm right in saying you guys do this stuff for free? I'm not a techie and don't have any inside knowledge of the club but I'd like to help out if I could.
{Ed033's Note - We can improve things with people's feedback. There is a contact us link at the bottom of this page for people to use.
03 Aug 2015 17:44:49
Eds will you ever make an app?
{Ed001's Note - maybe one day, we don't have anyone involved who knows iOS and/or Android's programming language, so it would have to be outsourced, which is a problem.}
03 Aug 2015 10:17:41
Just a quick question for everyone. If ,(I know it's a big if), we do manage to have a good season, let's say finishing top 4 and a cup win, what would the general consensus be:
1. Rodgers is a good manager who has now proven that our 2nd place finish was no fluke and that it was his ability as a manager and not just because we had Suarez.
Or
2. Rodgers is still not good enough for the club and the reason we have done well is because x or y players have been brilliant or the new coaching staff have made the difference?
{Ed001's Note - what about 3. It is a combination of x and y players playing well, the new coaching staff have made a difference and Rodgers is proving that finishing 2nd was no fluke?
Though I will wait until I see how it pans out before I give an opinion on that, as it will depend on what happens.}
03 Aug 2015 11:51:29
For me it's not just about finishing in the champions league it's a culmination of many factors that wants BR gone.
If we finish 4th and win a cup,it still won't be good enough.
We've spent vast sums of money on a team that given the spending in BR's own words should be challenging for the title. (regarding his mocking of spurs)
We've sold Kelly and loaned wisdom again and paid for a player that just wasn't necessary,as we did with Markovic. Our youth just aren't even getting a chance in my eyes,we're spunking 20 million+ on players instead of them,then not playing either.
The constant pissing off of a great many players. even though I think some may be petulant (Reina)but a stream of players have spoken out against BR or retracted statements they used to make at the club.
I don't see sneeking 4th as any sort of progression. usually 4th place is still some 20 or so points off 1st place and I know cups are good,but I couldn't really care for a league cup,where most teams don't even try till their reserves get them to the quarters/semi fainals.
Finally,the brand of football. I will wait until the season begins to see how our ifirst team sets out and plays,especially with no SG or GJ. but if we play the same sorry football will did last year with the defense still frail,playing skrtel, and any form of 5 at the back with wingbacks,I'll be pissed!! I want to see good attacking football,not a way of stemming the flood of goals we concede,without being creative up top
03 Aug 2015 12:44:07
The thing is scarface it shouldn't be a big if with the money Rodgers has had available.
The season we finished second was down to certain players because tactically we still looked a shambles at times.
Last season Rodgers was shown to be clueless he wasted millions on transfers and kept playing players out of position constantly.
This summer we have bought a lot better but can Rodgers get it to work we will see.
The money he has had and the squad he has available to him should get top 4.
Bobatron spot on with most you've said except I think Rodgers played with the wingbacks to be more attacking.
03 Aug 2015 12:58:25
Ask again if it actually does happen. During the 3 seasons Brendan has proved that he does not learn quick enough, and in some cases does not learn at all. This is his last chance to prove that he is the man for us. He's proved he can get results but we are never convincing. When we were blitzing teams, we always looked awful defensively. Last year we were plain awful but some of our quality players bailed us out, we just seemed to be hoping for a rabbit out of a hat. What I wanna see this year is actual strategy in our game; organized defending and purposeful attacks. For me that is more important than our end position (well that would be so if we didn't NEED the financial benefits of CL). It would show progression and show that maybe Brendan is learning and becoming a good manager. What I see happening however is a top 4 finish and a trophy, but we still will be suspect defensively and a little bit reliant on magic moments from our quality players, this would keep Brendan his job but ultimately the future would still be up in the air. Honestly I do believe Brendan could even get us a title this way, but we would never be a true top team winning machine like Barcelona, which should be our aspiration. Everything aside I am a simple fan and I don't like to think this deeply, I love watching football and I just want to see Liverpool win trophies. Thanks
03 Aug 2015 13:22:28
So to go a step further, what if we win the league this season?
What then?
03 Aug 2015 13:33:47
Come next week I will support him 100 percent but Captain Colgate is nothing to me any more.
The only glimmer of hope I have is that many players say he is very very impressive one on one.
But that only works with his favorites.
In groups and out groups. It's a real and documented way of managing people so it's not as if he's just doing things "wrong".
But it's a style that doesn't appeal to me at all. My views is that it leads to blinkered selection. Even that would be fine if the in group were the best players. But they aren't.
Just my view. As I say, come Saturday I will be the man's second biggest fan (after that piece he went orange and got the teeth for).
03 Aug 2015 13:39:35
Fair enough lavers. My personal stance was that 3 centreback as well as wingback detracts from having an extra striker or central midfielder and is therefore defensive,But can see why other would think wingbacks pushing further up is good. For me it was defensive. Either way,it's not a formation I like.
03 Aug 2015 13:48:21
Bob,
This is the exact kind of post that infuriates me. 'If we finish 4th and win a cup,it still won't be good enough.' What is good enough? Coming third? Coming 2nd? Winning the title? To win the title we'd have to come higher than three teams that have spent far more money than we have so stop chucking how much we've spent around. I don't care what Rodgers said, did you want him to come in and say 'if we're lucky we'll get 4th'? Our manager should be ambitious. Maybe he hasn't met that ambition yet but he's come closer than any manager we've had since Dalglish. And don't respond he only managed that because we had Suarez, every great team has great players in it, no manager can do anything without them. Rodger's took a group of players who finished 7th in 12/13 and achieved 2nd in 13/14, he did this by adding Mignolet of all people!
'We've sold Kelly and loaned wisdom again and paid for a player that just wasn't necessary'. Just for a second try ignoring your bias, neither of those players are as good as Clyne and neither will be. Kelly's found his level at Crystal Palace, Wisdom got dropped by WBA last season. Clyne is an England International and we should be chuffed that we got him in.
The only thing that will make you happy is Rodgers being sacked and from this point on it doesn't actually matter how good or bad we are because you've already made up your mind, if we're bad you get to say I told you so, if we're good it's because of some reason separate to Rodgers.
I wanted Rodgers to stay and it happened and I'm happy. But if this season isn't an improvement over last then I'll change my mind and support calls to sack him. I wonder if you'll have the character to change your view on Rodgers if he shows you're wrong.
{Ed001's Note - Kelly is an England international too, who was one of Palace's best players last season, why is Clyne better? This is the kind of post that really annoys me, with the idiotic crap about Wisdom being dropped by the anti-football Pulis, who dropped him because of two reasons, neither of which would stop him playing for us. As he was dropped for being a loan player and for being too short. Just because Clyne has signed for us, does not mean he is suddenly wonderful and better than the alternatives.}
03 Aug 2015 13:57:46
He wont,what if we win the quadruple? If we're going to dream up scenarios might as well make them reasonable
03 Aug 2015 13:53:51
Ron that is a very toxic post, and there's absolutely no place for that on here, this is a banter site.
03 Aug 2015 14:16:54
Oranges and Lemons Ed1, Kelly is an 87th minute 1-cap wonder. Clyne is already well ahead of Kelly. And maybe Wisdom was treated badly by West Brom but even then his performances haven't demanded a chance in the Liverpool first team. Look at Gomez, he was brought in as a player with potential but he's forced himself into the reckoning with his exploits on the pitch, if Wisdom could say the same I'd back down but he can't.
03 Aug 2015 14:22:59
Muscatred
I don't see how bobatrons post can infuriate you.
I think what he's put is pretty spot on and Rodgers has probably had more money to spend than most other managers in the league.
Rodgers shown last season that he is out of his depth how many players out of position.
When he played sterling up front surely lambert could have had a go.
Buying markovic for 20mil and loaning ibe out pointless.
Its not a case of wanting Rodgers sacked i'm sure everyone would rather he succeeds and we win the league, but of the evidence we've seen I doubt it.
03 Aug 2015 14:25:55
Ed001 said everything I would have comeback with muscat.
I want BR gone,because of all the things I listed. Athletico in la liga have proved to me you don't need to spend ridiculous amounts to win,same with dortmund.
The players we've often bought/loaned just haven't been of improved quality from what we had. Aspas,Balotelli,Manquillo,Clyne,Markovic,Lovren. etc etc. we have wasted money in the market.
I wouldn't agree he was the most successful/come closer since Dalglish either. he hasn't won a thing in 3 years,rafa got us to 2nd too as well as winning a champs league and FA cup.
Sorry but BR has to win the league for me. or it's 4 years of no progression,pissing off other teams as ed002 alludes to,pissing off players,etc etc.
BR doesn't cut it and he won't this season either
03 Aug 2015 15:31:15
Lavers, it's the 'Rodgers is useless and nothing will convince me otherwise' attitude. You should want to be wrong about Rodgers not revel in his supposed mediocrity.
The statement 'I don't think Rodgers is good enough and wish we had a new manager this season' is fine with me. The statement 'Rodgers is S*it and even if Liverpool does well he's S*it' is not. Over the last week I think we've been getting far to much of the latter.
03 Aug 2015 16:02:19
It just seems you want people to post their hypothetical situations of what they'd deem a success for BR. If he wants to stay I'd fully expect a good league run,good football,and Europa league and FA cup. will that do you Muscat? Or is that now unreasonable?
03 Aug 2015 16:04:28
Muscatred
If Rodgers has a good season then that is fine with me, i'm one who wanted Rodgers gone.
The thing managers have to do is follow a good season up with another good season to show they are doing there job.
If Rodgers can do that then I think he has shown himself worthy of the job.
With Rodgers having such a poor season last year its easy to point to players for his previous success
03 Aug 2015 16:18:32
Waro, the Eds decide what is suitable for banter an what isn't.
It's their site, their decision and I respect that.
03 Aug 2015 16:21:23
Lavers, that is a position I can respect.
03 Aug 2015 16:38:24
Ron, I think Waro thinks you and I are the same person.
03 Aug 2015 17:56:30
Muscat the problem is that evidence over the last 3 years have shown he is not up to the job. Its all well and good sitting behind our computers, ipads and phones rubbing our lucky coins in the hope that he will suddenly transform into a world class manager. Btw i am in the camp of i will back him and hope he gets a clue about management and i am not wishing him to fail either. But i can also understand the viewpoints of the pessimists who do not have any faith in him based on evidence so far.
03 Aug 2015 18:18:55
Ron, I used you to have a pop at SpudRed, it was an attempt a sarcasm! While were on the subject, I see you responded to that post but not my original one this morning, strange that, but just as I predicted.
03 Aug 2015 19:19:45
Bobatron, atletico have the pulling power of being based in Madrid as well as a much more successful youth system.
03 Aug 2015 19:52:20
Not sure what you are on about Waro but you sound a bit paranoid to me.
Anyway, I just pass through the site at odd times during the day. I don't have long so I just catch a few threads. Sorry if I have missed something important to you.
03 Aug 2015 09:31:44
Morning eds
Given our signing of Milner and every chance can will be playing a bit more in midfield along with emergence of youngsters getting older like teixeira, rossiter and chirivella do you see any chance we may look to move Allen on as he would clearly be behind Milner, Lucas, can, Henderson already?
Thanks
{Ed001's Note - we are open to selling him, yes.}
03 Aug 2015 10:24:03
What still confuses me is the Kovacic interest, ed01. I really like him as a footballer, though I remain unsure if he cold be moulded into the role we envisioned for him - on paper he seems perfect, but I am just not sure if he would have made it.
Back to the topic at hand, was the thought behind the transfer to crowd Lucas out of the club, and leave Can in a backup role to a midfield trio of Hendo, Milner and Kova? Was he seen as a priority at all, since we did not push with the deal as we have done with others, or was he just an opportunistic target without any real strategy behind it all? And most importantly - why was the club willing to commit a large sum on him, if finances are tight, squad is overcrowded, and there were already expensive targets on the list?
I am just confused.
{Ed001's Note - a lot of it was down to expecting him to be available for less, to spend less on a striker, expecting to sell more players and Rodgers really wanting him. As none of those things have happened, it is unlikely we will follow up now.}
03 Aug 2015 11:43:09
Kovacic was typically a CAM before he moved to inter where he played as the Registra / DLP with great success.
Kid is equally good defensively and offensively. A very similar player to Verratti or Wilshere.
03 Aug 2015 14:21:54
The quicker Joe Allen is moved on the better. The lad is the epitome of average.
03 Aug 2015 09:10:02
Is Markovic likely to get any game time this season? The search function told me we aren't actively trying to sell him, but would llikely accept a good offer.
Would be such a waste if we sold him already in my opinion, but it's hard to see where he's going to fit in this season with the over-abundance of attacking options we have already!
03 Aug 2015 09:42:24
Another player who would go down without being played in his best position. He isn't an out and out winger like Ibe, more like a second striker and cerntral player. His goals and movments come through the middle.
03 Aug 2015 10:36:01
Or. a talented player who struggled to find his form. Ibe got the same treatment as Markovic last season and forced his way into the team. Unfortunately for Markovic he just hasn't had the desired impact.
03 Aug 2015 14:23:28
He plays best in a number 10 role. Imagine putting Cautinho in a wing back position. He wouldn't be great either.
03 Aug 2015 08:42:41
Ed001, I would love to hear of your opinion on some of our younger players who you think should break through to the first team this season.
Many thanks
{Ed001's Note - for me I would like to see Chirivella given the chance to back up Lucas and provide cover. He is an excellent defensive midfielder, who just needs to be given the chance, similar to Coquelin of Arsenal.
Rossiter could do with a run in the team. The ability is there, he just needs a bit of faith being shown in him.
For me though, the one who most deserves and needs a chance in the first team is Teixeira. Put him alongside Milner, Henderson and/or Lucas, to help ease him in and he will shine. The only worry is whether he will stay fit, in my opinion.}
03 Aug 2015 09:02:45
Ed01, you took it from my mouth mate. Texiera is class and I have never seen such an accomplished Liverpool youngster in a very long time.
I would play him alongside Lucas as our creative CM along with Henderson.
Kiddoo is class. He is so assured and composed on the ball and never panicks
Paul Scholes written with creativity.
03 Aug 2015 09:23:46
That's great! Thank you very much Ed001
{Ed001's Note - you are welcome mate.}
03 Aug 2015 08:33:38
Come on then Ron, let's name and shame. Who wants Liverpool to fail just so they can say I told you so about Rodgers?
03 Aug 2015 10:49:21
I guess there is some context that I'm not aware of but Waro, that post seemed toxic, divisive, and generally the opposite of banter.
03 Aug 2015 11:11:07
Getting obsessive this lad.
03 Aug 2015 11:17:28
Boy this site is like a cock fight sometimes. I suggest we all throw our todgers on the table to see who has the biggest and be done with it!
{Ed001's Note - I wouldn't want to break the table.....}
03 Aug 2015 12:03:48
No not really, it's from posts from last night which I read this morning at the bottom of the page, so I replied to Ronald here in case the thread ended up on the next banter page were he wouldn't see it. Turn it in Davey it's getting boring now, you and Ron are the founder members of the BR fan club, I get it.
It seems the obsession is with you commenting on my posts to Ron Davey, LACES OUT! LACES OUT!
SpudRed, your a very sensitive " new man ", if your saying that post was " toxic ", scroll down the page and you'll work out why I posted.
Ron you generalize and make sweeping comments without having the balls to call individuals out, like I've done with you. But I'm sure you will evade my original question because your a bluffer and a blagger, just like your idol Swiss Tony.
03 Aug 2015 12:30:53
Waro, you know nothing about me and I'd thank you to refrain from judging me. Sensitive? Hah! I couldn't give two @#%Â¥'s what you say in regards to how it feels to anyone. This is a footy banter board and your post was Toxic in that it was obviously designed to kick off some agro. I simply called it as I saw it.
And I'm not new either. Many years on this board and others. 38 years a Liverpool FC supporter, thru good and bad.
03 Aug 2015 12:31:39
Never understood why people get so aggressive and angry over football. It's football, a game. We're grown men. There's more important things in life than this pettiness.
Red Rum
03 Aug 2015 12:57:02
SpudRed, did you scroll down the page and look at the comment from Ron? Thought not, so from memory it was " I find it sad that some people would rather we didn't do well so they can say I told you so about the manager ", I'm paraphrasing but that was the gist. So I merely asked him to name who he was referring to with regards his comment, it was aimed at me but he hasn't got the minerals to call me out. So look at both posts objectively ( which I'm not sure you can ) and ask yourself which post was more likely to " kick off some aggro ", as you put it! Also you are overly sensitive if you found my post toxic.
03 Aug 2015 14:00:00
I had read both Ron's comments and indeed all the comments prior that led to him saying what he said. I didn't agree with him, nor do I agree with your call to name and shame as it can only lead to a bitter and pointless end. But then you are entitled to your opinions, same as the rest of us. I just wish I didn't have to read an out of context floater of an angry post in the middle of my mornings read thru a banter message board.
But, I'll leave it there (just as I'm sure you won't be able too). I have no inclination or time to get into a pointless and childish name calling session with you.
03 Aug 2015 18:01:20
Ed are you working on a paper table then?
{Ed001's Note - a wet paper table.....
03 Aug 2015 06:53:30
Morning All, a quick loan update for those interested.
Danny Ward and aberdeen started their season with a 1-0 win away to Dundee United. Ward was kept busy but Aberdeen deserved the win.
I didn't post on Thursday but they lost their first leg of their 3rd round play off for the europa 2-1. They have the away goal though so are in with a chance of making it to the group stages.
If people would like I will post a weekly loan update on all players now that the season is about to get underway
03 Aug 2015 08:16:35
i probably won't comment much if you do, but know that ill definitely appreciate your updates.
{Ed001's Note - I would be interested in that too, I am finding it difficult to keep up with loan players these days. There is so much to do writing articles and player profiles, there is little time to keep up with watching all our loans sadly.}
03 Aug 2015 08:33:32
Absolutely keep it coming mate, nice one
03 Aug 2015 13:41:02
Great! That'd be interesting and appreciated.
03 Aug 2015 01:26:48
Question to the Eds about possible loans:
Any potential suitors for Rossiter or Ojo (maybe Kent as well)?
{Ed001's Note - there are a few clubs waiting to be informed which players we will be making available for loan, in particular Rossiter and Ojo are coveted. Looks likely they will get a Championship move, if we do let them go out on loan as that is not 100%. Kent might well end up at Cheltenham, as they are interested in taking a couple of players from us again.}
03 Aug 2015 06:53:49
while the conversation is about our younger players, how did pedro get on after the game ed001, do you have any idea? the way he walked out of the field looked bad, hope he is fine.
{Ed001's Note - he says it is just a knock and he is fine.}
03 Aug 2015 08:32:11
Thanks for the response Ed!
{Ed001's Note - nearly forgot Hearts are an option for someone from us, as they want to take one of our youngsters on loan, though I think that is the Welsh left winger, whose name has completely escaped my mind. It is Wilson? Sorry my mind is just coming up blank on his name.}
03 Aug 2015 08:47:50
Harry Wilson mate.
{Ed001's Note - thank you, that's him!}
03 Aug 2015 09:03:19
I have a few mates who are wolves fans and they are certain ojo will be joining them on loan
{Ed001's Note - there is certainly someone from us set to join them on loan, we have been in discussions with them a while. I don't know who though, as it seems that is still not decided. They did seem very likely to be Sinclair's destination before the contract wrangle started.}
03 Aug 2015 03:37:11
Arsenal fan here in peace!
Just saw a post further down the page from an 'Arsenal fan' slating Liverpool fans based on a supposed post on the Arsenal page. He's not an Arsenal fan, doesn't post on the Arsenal page and there was no such post! Those dirty mancs are trying to rile yer feathers again, not us.
Cracking goal from benteke, hope you lot pip united to 4th spot ;)
03 Aug 2015 07:18:01
even if he is an Arsenal fan, i don't think it would affect most people's opinion of Arsenal mate. every club has their own so called 'bad apples'.
although on these pages, liverpool and arsenal fans seems to get along really well. so don't worry mate :).
03 Aug 2015 07:34:18
Good to know, Lemon Tree. Congrats on the Shield, and looking forward to a competitive season!
03 Aug 2015 16:51:54
The love in is back!!
02 Aug 2015 22:10:29
Ed001 I enjoy getting your view on players so here's a few just for some work for you to get on with haha.
Kane do you think he is a one hit wonder?
Is ibra really any good, personally I've never seen the fuss but toy most probably know better than me.
And how good are r lewondowski and lacazette??
{Ed001's Note - no, but he is not this world superstar he is being made out to be by the media. He is a very good young player who works extremely hard and will no doubt have a successful career in the Prem.
Ibra is a very good player, he is not up there with Messi and Ronaldo, or in the next tier with Suarez, but just below that. He was alovely touch on the ball and very technically skilled, he is like Berbatov, but with more quality.
Lewandowski is one of the best out and out strikers in world football, he is class mate. Wasted at Bayern, but then they don't really need him the way they play, Muller suits them better.
I am not sure on Lacazette, I have not seen enough of him play to really give an opinion, though what I saw was impressive.}
03 Aug 2015 06:13:22
Lewa is the most complete striker in the world right now who is available and behind the elite Suarez - Messi and Ronaldo. He is a better player than Falcoa was in his prime.
03 Aug 2015 08:16:25
Cheers ed001.
I know you have the player profiles bit but you should try doing a page where you have the player, and follow it with which ever eds want to write thier view.
Suarez
Ed001 little runt
Ed002 wanted to take us to court.
It could get banter going between all the eds, as all the opinions will differ haha
Thats just an idea from early in the morning. It is crap and vague but always thougjt something like that would be good.
When you go through the different pages you see all the different personalities of the eds come through :)
Maybe an eds prediction page aswel. Anf the winner can get something for there resident pages like a trophie or porn video haha .
Wow I've really gone on there ed sorry haha
{Ed001's Note - the profiles now allow us to have a number of different editors' (or even random posters if they wish to do so) views on a player on a single page. Each time a profile of a player that is already done is added to the database it will just add to the information on the page, rather than replace it with a fresh profile. So, over time, you will be able to see how views change on the players profiled, especially if one editor profiles the same player a few times over the course of time, you will be able to read down and see what his/her previous view was on the player.}
03 Aug 2015 09:09:35
Better than falcao in he's prime ?? Falcao in he's prime was the best striker in the world . He was devastating. Lewandowski is a top top player no doubt . I'd put aguero ahead of him tho . He on he's day and without injury is awesome .
03 Aug 2015 09:46:30
Aguero is only below Suarez IMO. He is devastating when fit. Hardly plays more than 20 league games yet end up scoring 20 goals every season. He is just incredible.
Lewa is the the best of the bunch available now. Fantastic talent and technique. Aguero is the 4th best striker behind Suarez.