Liverpool Banter Archive August 03 2014

 

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03 Aug 2014 21:58:22
Thankfully (according to ssn), Brendan Rodgers has said "I can categorically tell you that Mario Balotelli will not be at Liverpool". Thank God.

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If true that's great news

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Just seen the interview and that's exactly what he said, he was only asked of his thoughts on the player, we should all know what the press are like by now.

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Sadly, Grantly, many of the Liverpool supporters don't know. All you need to do is scroll down for evidence.

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03 Aug 2014 21:03:13
Hey all-knowing ed01! Since I am getting more and more excited of seeing Evgen Konoplyanka in the proud Liverpool jercey, could you share if you have per chance found something by your sources?
Blessed be thy crops and bountiful thy harvest!

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{Ed001's Note - sorry I have not had a chance to do anything as I am taking my daughter home tomorrow so was spending time with her.}

Good to see ya spending so much time with your daughter hope all is well

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04 Aug 2014 14:01:59
Ed001, what does your daughter reckon about the Konoplyanka move? Surely the renowned opinions must be passed on through the genes?!

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{Ed007's Note - Ed001's daughter is a Man Utd fan.}

04 Aug 2014 20:12:27
Whaaaaaaaaaat. Ed01 daughter is a UTD fan?. Surely Ed04 kid must be a Liverpool fan then.

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{Ed002's Note - ED004 has not gotten to puberty yet.}

04 Aug 2014 20:12:27
Whaaaaaaaaaat. Ed01 daughter is a UTD fan?. Surely Ed04 kid must be a Liverpool fan then.

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{Ed002's Note - We will find out a few years after Ed004 hits puberty.}

03 Aug 2014 21:06:53
In response to a comment someone made earlier, I cannot believe people on this site do not understand this yet.

Money, however it is spent, is money lost, whether it is on transfer fee or wages.

Lallana may have cost a few million more than kroos, but i'll take a guess at saying his wages are at least half of toni kroos' at real madrid. Ultimately, that means he will cost a lot more than lallana. Lallana is cheaper. Pretty simple.

We have not been humiliated by that comparison of those two transfers. Anybody who thinks that is too stupid to realise that we havent. Use your heads!

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Agree 110% Kroos was also in the last year of his contract and we aren't going to compete with RM. As it happens I think Lallana is going to do well, he's a damned good footballer and I welcome him, if he was Spanish or Brazilian people would go mad for him. He has great technique it's our job to give him the confidence to express it.

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I'm more than happy with Lallana personally. Was he worth £25m? Dunno.

If we have the Lallana I saw last season and he improves further then yeah cause he showed some great skill, leadership and has goals and assists proven in this league.

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How is money spent lost? Last summers investment resulted in a bumper income due to finishing position and CL qualification triggers a huge increase in sponsorship income. Players are assets that (correctly deployed) can generate more than enough revenue to fund player acquisitions and salaries. Unfortunately football doesn't always work like this but your statement is incorrect. Southampton may have lost half a squad but they have made not lost money on their investment.

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{Ed002's Note - Best avoid the finances as clearly you have a very naïve view.}

So we didn't earn more in TV revenue than ever before?

Our sponsorship deals aren't looking better than they did without CL?

Southampton haven't turned a profit on the players they have sold?

Football isn't a basket-case of a business to be involved in?

You don't have to invest in talent to be successful at the highest level in football?

Not sure what you have objected to or why you like to demean people who aren't financial professionals even though this is a banter site. You don't usually post considered responses so I won't hold my breath.

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03 Aug 2014 21:03:49
what happens on the field is interests me than off it. Bring on Southampton

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03 Aug 2014 20:59:46
Ed002 you said the other day there was meant to be a decision on vidals future that night, was there anything said?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes, try the Manchester United page for detail, but in summary he has gone on the tour.}

03 Aug 2014 20:58:17
Still a bit of work to do but I am told the talks with Sevilla have yielded positive results so far. Dependent on us agreeing terms with Moreno I can see him signing for us.

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{Ed002's Note - Gosh, really. Talks? Copenhagen?}

03 Aug 2014 20:26:07
So the media web continues to throw up the suggestion that Balotelli is the new striker target.
A tonne of natural talent, can score, can create. can be a sulking, lazy waste of time.
This has the potential to be one of those signings that could make all the difference or be a total cash burner.
Balotelli could play quite a key role tactically, easily fitting in across the front three whilst the mooted price of around £14mil seems attractive when you consider the Remy valuation.
I would like to think Balotelli is starting to mentally mature as he ages and could with guidance be the player he promises to be. BR managed it with Sturridge, why not here? The attitude within the squad appears infectious and this can only be positive.
With all things considered surely, if the rumours of this deal are true, it has to be a loan with option to buy? And what a deal it could actually be.!

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{Ed002's Note - It is the same story over and over. I cannot believe how naïve many Liverpool supporters are about the "internet" and how it works.}

03 Aug 2014 20:40:57
No chance of it happening, both the eds on here and James Pearce of the Liverpool Echo have said it's rubbish. They are the most reliable sources. Dismiss most other stuff online.

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Ok guy's no more Balotelli questions to Ed2. Just heard from the horses mouth Brenden that is. Balotelli will not be a Liverpool player.

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03 Aug 2014 20:09:26
Lots of rumours going around mentioning a possible return for Ronaldo to Manchester United . anyone know if there's anything in them? . . I hope not!

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{Ed002's Note - You are on the wrong page.}

Real can't get rid now, with barca new front line they need all there attacking players and that's just to stay in top three in that league

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03 Aug 2014 20:06:14
Agree Rusty. Shows why we are a unique support. Not words. Actions.

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03 Aug 2014 20:02:58
Really like BR and all he has done but I don't understand the constant quotes that he can change any player we buy
E.g. If we buy Balotelli BR will sort out his head ( no other manager for club or country has done it yet)
Micah Richards, BR will sort him out, again another nut that has not been calmed down before

Am I missing some miracle or miracles that our beloved manager has performed in the last year or two with a psycho player
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I always think of that quote by mourinho where he had no strikers available except balotelli who was on a yellow at half time and he spent 14 of the 15 minutes telling mario he needs to stay on, no tackling etc. 46th minute sent off!

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Perhaps its the overall transformative influence that Rodgers and Fenway (amongst others) have had at Liverpool that see people making that connection.

Whilst he certainly isn't a master psychologist with a couch, capable of changing a raging ego maniac into an out and out team player, he is a very good football coach implementing logically sound principles into professional club structure. Its this structure of team work that can be so transformative.

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I think in the case of Sturridge, which seems to be the one that gets BR this accolade.
For me the potential was clear. He had scored and played well at Chelsea and Man City, but really showed it on loan at Bolton. Neither City or Chelsea really gave him game time in his favoured central striker position. I think I recall reading that that was the clincher with him signing for us, playing centre not on the wing.
Give a player what he wants, make him feel wanted and he has natural ability to score. Not rocket science.

It'll be the same with Lukaku at Everton. He'll score, win them games on his own and it'll be Martinez the genius. Fact is it's cause he'll play regular, the main striker, feel wanted and has natural ability.

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03 Aug 2014 19:17:19
Hello everyone,

was just thinking how good it would be for us fans to start the new season off in exactly the same way as we finished the last.
By that I mean greeting the coach at our home games.

It was very effective last season, and what a great way to make the new boys feel at home and show them what we are made of.

What do you reckon?

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I'm up for that!

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03 Aug 2014 20:39:08
As a fan who has trouble getting tickets and can't afford to go to Liverpool without them, I'm always gutted I can't join in with stuff like that. However when I do have tickets I'm out there hours before to greet the buses whether anyone else is or not, so it would be great if we start doing that every game. Maybe speak to an official supporter club?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not sure but maybe others could help with the names of local bars and other places that show the game in Liverpool. If not, and I appreciate it can be expensive, get together with like minded folk for games - this is how it has worked in the States, South Africa, Australia etc.. Organise, make it work.}

I guess just putting the word out on other lfc sites could help.
Other people might be thinking the same thing anyway. If not, I'll still be there.😎🌆

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04 Aug 2014 07:26:41
The lads you need to contact re the greeting the team buses are Spion Kop 1906, a group of young supporters who do a lot of organising in such matters. They also have a lot of banners present at every game.

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03 Aug 2014 19:15:29
Think LFC Vs Southampton on day 1 may be a tough fixture?

How will BR counteract Koeman's tactics or know what formation he will go with given he has no previous in the EPL? How will he even know which Southampton players will be on the pitch (if there are any left!)?

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I think Southampton will have difficulty with how we play rather than the other way around; yes we will have to play well but if our players perform how we know they can then I can see us winning.

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I can't see, no matter who they get, southampton playing well next season, particularly not the first game. they're there for the taking, completely wounded by the instability at the club. I would expect nothing less than all out attack and to make a good first impression in the new season.

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03 Aug 2014 20:40:19
It's the Premier League. Every game is a tough fixture. However, we are a team looking to win the league and compete in the CL - they are looking to consolidate after a very tough summer. We won't be trying to counter their tactics - they will be trying to resist ours

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03 Aug 2014 22:25:56
The only question is whether Southampton will still have 11 players left by then.

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Saints have sold a (right now) back up RB, replaced Lallana with Tadic, Lambert with Pelle and Shaw with Bertrand. So they only need to replace Lovren in numbers terms and cover Rodriguez's injury perhaps. Only SOME Liverpool fans believe you need a squad of 50 players. Saints will be fine.

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03 Aug 2014 18:54:25
Loving the "back to the top" button! :-)

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Where is it when using an iPhone? Am I being really daft as I can't see it.

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Bottom right Mikey, don't worry I was confused for a while too haha

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Nothing there for me. Oh well, the digits on my right hand are well developed and I can scroll really quick as a result :)

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{Ed002's Note - Mikey, don't be embarrassed; all Liverpool supporters have over developed right hands for the same reason. You need to start washing your own Stevie G PJs.}

03 Aug 2014 22:06:10
Mikey if you have an iPhone you can touch the top bar on the screen twice (where the time is shown) and it automatically goes back to the top.

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03 Aug 2014 22:13:22
How about if your a left handed LFC supporter. I kinda feel left out now.

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{Ed007's Note - So how's things going on the Devil worshipping world?}

04 Aug 2014 08:10:43
Mickey you need to be using the mobile version of mobile.Liverpool-rumours dot co etc. If using the full site address it doesn't have the back to top feature for your phone.

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03 Aug 2014 18:49:15
Nice to see Alberto already starring for Malaga against a premier league side especially

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Did he play well?

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I think he's already scored 3 for them but today he got 1 & won & missed a penalty but against west ham doing well

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Thanks - maybe this is the kick he needed - if he carries on like that we will either have a good player returning or a player we could sell for more than we bought him for.

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He scored a brilliant free kick for them in his first game for them.

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03 Aug 2014 18:45:45
Not a rumour just LFC tv sayin that markovic carryin a niggle and that's why never made the Milan squad, nothin bout a bad injury. Just for those who were worryin.

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03 Aug 2014 20:55:00
I wasn't aware markovic played for Milan.

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03 Aug 2014 18:09:12
I'd love to see Markovic score the winner against United, a great way to say "Hello, my name is Lazar, and you'll be seeing a lot more of me in the coming year!" Awh, day dreams.

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I'd prefer Rickie Lambert to smash in the winner. The sooner he gets off the mark the sooner the nerves will go and he can push on.

Red Rum

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Same could be said about any of the new boys, let's hope they all hit the ground running.

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03 aug 2014 20:29:16
lazar "laser guided markovic missle" after weaving in n out of tackles n chipping it over the keeper right after emre can knock the united midfield about poetry in motion tra la la la la.

sorry i'm bored!

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03 Aug 2014 17:48:20
Italy's Sport Mediaset reports that Balotelli's agent, Mino Raiola, is already in contact with a Premier League club to discuss wages.

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Yeah arsenal.

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Its arsenal

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Balotelli attracted to the London night life me thinks.

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03 Aug 2014 17:32:49
I just wanted to share my opinion on Joe Allen. I think he's a very good player, technically good, can tackle and works hard for the team. The difficulty for him is that he is what I call an 'invisible' player. He plays in the position that keeps the team ticking and controls the tempo and pace but is sometimes seen as 'invisible' by some fans as they only recognise the 30 yard screamers and 20+ goals per season and anyone else is rubbish by comparison.

He is a great member of our squad and ensures the midfield works as it should and he is the type of player who would be sorely missed if we sold him.

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Spot on.

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03 Aug 2014 18:46:07
Suffolk, I pointed out the exact same thing earlier today, but some fans don't see or applaud the work rate and contributions from these "Invisible players" as you like to call them. They are only missed when they are not on the pitch and every successful team needs one to make things happen.

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There is one caveat, he's not a defensive midfielder.

But he has a lot of energy, he's no slouch and puts a shift in.

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Sorry mate, Henderson plays a similar role and rarely scores, but his work certainly doesn't go unnoticed.

I was the first to congratulate Allen last night, but he needs to play at that level consistently. He can do it and hopefully he will take some confidence away from last night's match because maybe that's all that's has been hindering him.

However, I disagree that he will be "sorely missed" if he is sold. He is a good squad player, that would be easily replaced.

I don't think anyone could honestly disagree with this unless they are part of the "you can't mention player weaknesses or we will jump down your throat" brigade.

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Watching LFC matches in the pub last year a lot of people would throw abuse at the telly when he was in and around the box and didn't shoot. Clearly he has more of a footballing brain than them than to waste possession, but therein lies some of the haters' problem

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Hi All, thanks for replying. Apols if I duplicated anything already posted, it was genuinely never sseen.

I do think Allen would be sorely missed if he wasn't at the club but that's just my opinion and it's cool that some disagree, hopefully he'll prove them wrong over time. Lucas was the same, not a player who showboats and plays a glamorous position so is not missed until not playing.

Red Rum, personally I don't mind people discussing player's weaknesses. The only time I have issue is when people cuss them and tear them apart as I think people should have more respect than that and treat others as they would want to be treated by others. Genuine discussion is what this site is all about so it's always good to hear other fans views.

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Your posts are always good.}

03 Aug 2014 20:27:37
Suffolk, spot on again mate. When he gets his opportunity to play he does the job he is tasked to do and he does it well. Nobody said that he is a defensive midfielder as stated above in response to the initial thread, but his role is to press the opposition and limit options which lead to errors being made. And when he is in possession of the ball he is excellent at keeping it moving and finding the right players. He would be missed from our squad and is not "Easy to replace". I think we will see a lot more of Joe in our starting 11 this season and he can be judged at the end of the season. Personally I think he has a lot to offer.

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Exactly Suffolk it's all about opinions. As long as the criticism doesn't involve abuse then it's all good.

Red Rum

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03 Aug 2014 22:45:22
Allen doesn't perform consistently enough to be noticed. In fact he's hardly effective going forward and his work rate is the only good thing about him defensively. This is simply not his level, which is why rogers sees him as a good squad player. He won't argue being on the bench, because he knows he's not better than what's in front of him. That simply proves the point. Not saying he's a bad player, but certainly not a first 11 player.

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Sufolkred is spot on. You defo know your football and tactics. Those who slate Allen need to take lessons from you on how the game is played in real life instead on a pointless video game or the famed fantasy football.

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04 Aug 2014 07:37:34
Hey, thanks again everyone for the replies (especially Ed002, I'm going to frame that one! Ha! Ha!)

Indeedy, RR. I don't get to see many live games so genuinely like to hear yours and others views.

Fingers crossed for a great season. I think this is going to a shocker for the finger nails and hairlines! Chelsea, City, Arsenal will all be major competitors with some continuity and Utd and Spurs have great managers who could make a massive impact. Throw Everton and a few others in and top 4 is some achievement in our league now. No wonder our players are so knackered at WC's!

Cheers all, have a good rest of the evening

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04 Aug 2014 07:39:32
The thing is there's no place for allen in starting 11. He's neither defensive mid nor box to box mid nor attacking. The position he's playing is what henderson can do and do better! He'll be a great squad player though if it's fine with him.

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Great post, some of what you say I agree with. I'm not a huge Allen fan but only because I hear about this Welsh Xavi and his great passing and football brain. Yet 9/10 games I see him play he often gets shrugged of the ball easy, I see passes, mostly short - I can't remember him spraying a 30 yarder, fall short or get intercepted. Next time you watch a game or watch a recent repeated US tour one, when a team breaks on us it's usually Allen who has just lost us possession.
This could sound like I'm on his back or hate him, not true. His main game is to pass easy 3/4yard taps to keep possession sideways and back, easy passes so when he fails to do that I don't regard him as a decent 1st team player.
Can and Henderson have this energy and work rate, Lucas and Gerrard have the defensive side of breaking up play and moving the ball on. None of them are invisible
Allen is a good squad player a back up for injuries. Add Lallana and Coutinho to those four I've mentioned and tell me you'd put Allen in ahead of those 6 in our midfield?

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Cheers Redohio, I wish that was true! Ha! Ha! Fact is i'm just a devoted fan with a sensible head but I pale in comparison to the Eds and a lot of the posters on this site.

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04 Aug 2014 11:33:51
I'm with you Suffolk and as Ed002 says your posts are always thoughtful and respectful of others. Keep it up mate.

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03 Aug 2014 17:15:01
Hi all, SAFC fan here can you tell me what is afoot with Borini, is he coming or staying

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I think we know about as much as you brother, I know he's injured at the moment though so that's why he's not been playing. I got the impression he wanted to stay though whilst the whole Remy shenanigans was occurring.

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03 Aug 2014 18:21:27
Rumour has it he is waiting to see if the Juventus interest materialises into a move otherwise he will more than likely join you.

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His coming but only if there's no other interest in him.

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03 Aug 2014 16:33:44
Fell asleep on the chair after too many sherberts last night and didn't get to see the match but have just watched it - anyone see Essien upto his normal tricks and following through with his foot onto Sterling (about 6 1/2 mins into the match)?

Disgraceful; then again Muntari was just as bad.

How such a Great European club has fallen; I suppose we were like that in Rafa's last year and Hodgson's 6 months.

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03 Aug 2014 16:10:16
Eds who do you think will be our midfield this season?
I would think br would put out a 433 formation.
Who would u pick out of:
Coutinhio
Can
Hendo
Gerrard
Lucas
Allen
Lallana
Suso

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{Ed002's Note - Unless Suso is sold I would think they will all be getting opportunities this season.}

I would like to see hendo, can coutinho, sterling and lallana as our starting 11. Obviously with sturridge up top.

Markovic needs gametime but also to show us why he was bought and I can't help but think gerrard should be used when needed not just every game he can.

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03 Aug 2014 16:09:46
hi eds and reds

i just want to say about the people on here going on about the money a player would cost and what there wages would be, I remember the days we only focused on how good the player is, the good old days now even if the player is a top player people go on about the money, I prefer to let the money men at the club to do their jobs and worry about the money, I expect they won't pay over the odds for a player or they will pay what the club can afford to pay in wages, I trust them to do there jobs,

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{Ed002's Note - You will also see a lot skipping on the currency Mickey - and few think of all of the additional costs the club has to pay. There were very significant "agent" and "representative" costs with one player this summer. There is the money to be paid to the FA etc..}

03 Aug 2014 18:01:31
Still doesn't mean Kroos and Vidal are the players we should be going for. Fact is they are too expensive, whatever the extras and whatever the currency. Not to mention we're not what we used to be and neither is the game.

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Hi Mickey,

Have you got multiple personalities?

From your post yesterday:

"ve just read that vidal is going to utd, I think BR has lost the plot no wonder we are a laughing stock they buy kroos for 20 mil and we buy lallana for 25 mill, not putting lallana down but I would rather have had kroos for 5 mill less."

It's ok taking the higher ground but you can't have it both ways.

The money men will decide if someone is attainable or not. They will also need to balance the books / understand what the costs are going to be but FF{ will dictate how much overspend we will be allowed.

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Well said, .

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Vidal has done four medicals so far you believe everything. Really though, would he leave Juve to go to a team out of the champions league and in transition? Regardless that it is Man U, he probably won't.

Also if Man U had signed Lallana (Or city/Chelsea/arsenal/spurs etc.) people would still moan. Personally, think he looks a good player and will be a quality addition with his skill and workrate.

As for Kroos, yes he was £24(?)m but he was in the last year of his contract and of you think he would choose us over RM?

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Again I know about the money not all of it but I know a lot of money goes on to other parties not just the transfer money or the wages, the insurance on a player must be sky high, but I just think we should be going for a top player who will help the team, and with kroos I only said what I seen, i'm not stupid enough to think we only pay transfer and wages, of course there's agents fee's i'm sure in one season we paid the most to agents, plus when we get a transfer fee for a player the money goes into the club not just the transfer pot, god just because you don't agree with me does not mean i'm stupid, but as some one said I prefer to notice what' going on, on the field of play not of it, I don't pretend to know buisness i'm a supporter not a money man, and I don't think the people who own the club will let us go into the red but hey every one to their own opinion,

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Hi hoola you tell me who you would have bought out of kroos and lallana, for me I don't know how either would have played but in our team this season, but what I do know and that is lallana had the team built around him and the team played to his strenghts, this will not happen at Liverpool, even when lallana was a kid he had the team built around him to play to him and for him, with kroos he has fitted into the team and played for a team more of a team player, i'm not saying lallana is not a team player but will find it hard to play in a team where everything is not geared towards him, i'm my humble opinion I don't think lallana will be as good for us has he was for the saints, that's not putting him down or slating him, i'm just saying it because of the different set ups between Liverpool fc and southampton fc, plus kroos might take a season or 2 to get into the swing of the prem so no multiple personalities just thinking ahead

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03 Aug 2014 15:00:21
Damn! Just wanna say how much I love Emre Can. he's such an elegant midfielder! Love his every now and then skill move. For the past 2 games he been banging micha richards and super mario off the ball. got to love him man! Of course handsomeson(henderson) is still my favourite though.

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What about that little tender hug between Can and Balotelli after he fouled him later on.

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He's a brute of a lad, 6'2" and built like a tank, yet moves like a gazelle when he has the ball and he is stronger than most off of it. So glad to have a physical presence like that, genuinely think he is the kind of player we missed last year. Top scouting! It's a very well wanting Vidal/Pogba/Kroos etc but would it not be better to get the next super star early on(ahead of the curve as they say?), in this respect we have.

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Can will be a beast as soon as he adapts to th PL. He is built like a brick house BUT has pace, power and skill w/ the energy to play multiple positions on the field.

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04 Aug 2014 06:47:35
Well said Mr Dennis!

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03 Aug 2014 14:34:45
A few links with us being after Balotelli and also Milan are after Reina so maybe a deal cold be done there.

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03 Aug 2014 14:33:33
We were after sanchez and with Suarez gone i.still believe we will seek a top attacker/ forward. Is bony that player BR believes is top class? there's noone really that's available thats.top drawer in that area that's why I believe we.should wait until January and assess

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03 Aug 2014 14:27:58
Does anyone know if Markovic is still in the States or has he flown back with Sturidge, llalana, and Flanagan?

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03 Aug 2014 14:21:42
@Ed001, cheers for the poll of the day on Bertrand. I was glad to see 88% thought that he isn't any better than our current options.

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I fear for the other 12%'s sanity.

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On the contrary I fear for anybody who rates Enrique, our only first team left back.

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03 Aug 2014 13:52:55
It will be interesting to see what arrivals we might have, should we manage to sell the players we're rumoured to want to leave
Reina I imagine will go for a nominal fee as Dirk Kuyt did, and Toure's contract will be ripped up should a deal be agreed.

This still leaves us potentially
Johnson £2-£3 mil, really wouldn't see us getting much more.
Agger rumoured to be valued around £10 mil,
Maybe Robinson and Suso, Coates, and there's usually 1 departure nobodies expecting isn't there?

Given the saving in wages, and that most of our spending has been funded by Suarez, it will be interesting to see what happens should the fringe players leave.

I'm quite happy either way, this is far from a demand for BR to spunk loads of cash, just food for thought!

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03 Aug 2014 13:36:58
I know we have been connected with loads of forwards, But I really hope the rumours about Mario Balotelli

are just that "Rumours" He has got to be one of the most overrated players over the last few seasons

He didn't do it at Inter, City, and now A.C. Milan, when he's not interested he just strolls around the pitch

and i'm not having "Brendan would sort him out He done it with Suarez"

Suarez is a lot of things but he's not lazy, and he will give you 100% his problems are all in his head,

Balotelli would be an expensive risk, you might get 4 out of ten good games from him, my advice Brendan steer clear

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I wouldn't call scoring a goal every 2 games 'not doing it', personally. Yes his attitude can be terrible but I would definitely take him. He has bags of talent

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Totally agree.

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He actually scored 16 goals in 15 games for Milan last year. The goals dried up after that but if anyone can get his head on straight it's Rodgers.

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03 Aug 2014 14:20:21
We have zero interest in him!

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Spot on mate, LS liked the taste of human flesh, but god damn he was motivated.

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And who's going to pay his ridiculous wages while he "BR sorts him out".

And maybe BR has better things to do - you know, like managing a football team?

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03 Aug 2014 15:10:44
I think some of you missed the point. :/

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I just don't understand that he has bags of potential. Every 2-3 weeks there are clips of him going through training drills half bothered. If you don't train properly or work hard enough on the pitch then how will he reach that potential.

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I always thought he was overrated, especially by himself.

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03 Aug 2014 13:10:49
What are people's thoughts on whether we could buy Bony and Kono?

I would've thought we could only afford one (given how much we've spent thus far). But who knows we've already spent more in one window than we ever have.

I wouldn't want Kono to stop Ibe getting some game time; having said that whilst I rate Ibe I'm not sure how many starts he would get in the "league" with us; maybe coming on when the game is already won. Obviously cup games I would expect him to start.

Then again I do rate Kono and think he would be an amazing signing.

Years ago I used to watch every match available but now it's normally only Liverpool ones; so I've seen a little of Bony but no loads. Whilst again I think he would fit into our team not sure he is worth £24m (if Swansea want double what they paid for him).

It's an unreal amount of money spent thus far (even with the Suarez sale); I do think we need to start trimming the squad a little now and hopefully with some Sales to recoup orate what we've spent.

Hopefully Assadi will drop his wage demands and move to Stoke as he will not be getting any game time with us.

If Reina and Johnson were to leave then even without transfer fees that would be approximately £10m in wages saved for the year (assuming both are on £100k per week).

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Are you more interested in the money we spend or the club winning the prem or cups, if we win things then the money does come that's why people go on about the champs league and the money it brings through getting into the latter stages of it the further you go the more money you get, but first you have to have the players and the team to get further into the competition, plus we had a transfer fund before we sold suarez and what I've read is that we have not even touched the suarez money yet

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Another good post Mickey.

Of course I want us to win trophies; by the same token would you like us to be where Leeds are today or unable to compete in Europe due to FFP (which will mean top players will not want to play for us)?

We've spent £89m on transfer fee's (agent fee's, signing on fee's etc. etc etc. ) I very much doubt we have another £70+ million to spend on players.

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I would suggest the club and fsg would be better placed to make the call on whether they will go bankrupt or won't adhere to fair play rules. They will be working on commercial deals as we'll no doubt. There will be sales too. At the moment we have spent about 15 mil net which is what we tried to spend in jan but couldn't.

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03 Aug 2014 13:04:57
MAJOR breakthrough in understanding Liverpool's transfer strategy this summer: all of the players we have signed this summer have come from teams which play in RED!
Origi - Lille: red
Can - Bayer Leverkusen: red
Markovic - Benfica: red
Lallana/Lambert/Lovren - Southampton: red
And so what does this mean for the rest of our business this window? Manquilla -At. Madrid and Moreno - Sevilla are nailed on while unfortunately Marco Reus will not be joining the club.

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03 Aug 2014 14:37:30
By that logic we should expect mario here very soon then

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03 Aug 2014 14:43:43
Balotelli equals red as well.

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Wrexham FC players are now on 'Red Alert'

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So we could still get Sanchez then? Lol

Interesting observation though, maybe this helps them recognise their team rather than names - what with language barriers it can only help! Ha ha

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03 Aug 2014 12:16:07
As I said a while ago, Allen will turn out to have a great season. Support will only help him.
Ballotelli? Might have a bad attitude and lifestyle but he has phenomenal ability. I would take him if you could sort him out but is that possible

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03 Aug 2014 12:42:03
I wouldn't take him for his laziness, high wages, attitude and tarty hairstyles.

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Last nights game should cement the decision to leave alone. He's jut not active enough. one lazy mofo

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I think we can all agree on balotelli's issues BUT does anyone else remind you of Sturridge in terms of balotelli - Sturridge may not of been as bad but again had a slight attitude problem and look how he's turned - join us super mario and become great :)

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03 Aug 2014 13:47:26
I would take him for under £15m as long as Brendan Rodgers can send him for an evaluation before hand. Mario Balotelli is capable of sheer brilliance but is also just as likely to do something crazy and get banned. Would he be happy to play second fiddle to Daniel Sturridge and is he suited to our style of play?

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What about a loan for a year maybe?

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If I was the manager, the only way I'd let Mario Balotelli play for Liverpool, is if he went to a therapist, agreed to have his contract terminated with no compensation(should problems occur) and he would have to earn his spot in the team, as well as not starting on the high wages that he thinks he deserves.

The other thing with Balotelli is that he causes trouble in training, he has fights/bust-ups with managers, players and other staff. I think he would be more trouble than it's worth and if our high and mighty sponsors like Standard "dealing under the table" Chartered, didn't like Suarez, then they'll hate Balotelli.

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{Ed002's Note - Standard Chartered issue with Suarez was over one particular incident.}

Gotta say, I am tied on this one! £14 mil risk with high salary I am sure, but not a bad price for a quality player, but he is not always quality as he is slightly mad and definitely can be lazy!

Plus I agree, his hair looks ridiculous most of the time!

Can he score goals? Hell yes, but only if he can be bothered!

My real question is, is he worth the risk? If not who should we get instead? And please don't say Bony, I just know he is not worth the sort of money the press are talking about!

Hope this does not offend and let me know your thoughts.

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03 Aug 2014 11:54:10
Hi there I was just wondering what's the clubs general views on Coates, I understand he's been out the picture with injury and out on loan, but from my point of view he's a solid defender just needs to improve his sharpness/passing but that can be done with game time.

Is the clubs general concensus to move him on or watch his development and decide?

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{Ed002's Note - The club would like to sell him but no one is interested.}

03 Aug 2014 11:53:39
What ever happen to Yesil?

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03 Aug 2014 11:35:01
Did anyone else notice how strong Ibe looked last night, he had chunks kicked out of him left, right, and centre and just got up. At times he looked just as strong as Sterling, who is a machine. Can only hope they become twin terrors for years to come!

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He has looked good all pre season.

Could be a big year for the lad.

Pace, strength, skill, brave and looks like he has good decision making, just needs to work on his finishing but practice makes perfect and you can see that he is a determined lad.

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I hope he doesn't get loaned out. He deserves a chance with us.

Red Rum

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03 Aug 2014 13:04:35
I hope he gets loaned out because if he stays with us this season, he is unlikely to feature meaningfully and that could hinder his development.

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I used to watch Ibe & Sterling throughout out their reserves time and can honestly say at the time I bet on Ibe to be the better player and to progress further - Even if you have to type him in on youtube and hopefully it shows some reserve games but his pace, power and trust me the boy can finish - He'd often be on the scoresheet, Him and Sterling playing behind sturridge will always cause defenders issues so by having him with us gives us another option

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03 Aug 2014 14:24:25
Ibe is a massive talent but not ready to okay regularly for us. He does something brilliant like skipping past a player but then tries to take another on when passing is a better option and loses the ball. His final ball needs some work too. I think a year on loan where he can okay week in week out will do him the world of good. He could be amazing in a couple of seasons

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Definitely agree with those suggesting he needs a loan, love the player but I feel a year playing regular football for a team who play a similar style of football, could really help to push him to the next level.

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03 Aug 2014 11:26:51
Hi eds,

How much truth is there to this Balotelli rumour?
Heard that a fee agreed and personal terms also but I'm not holding my breath.

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{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

03 Aug 2014 10:53:45
Eds are balotelli rumours true that fee has been agreed or is it just because of what Rodgers said. Also is reus a possibility.
Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - There is no fee agreed for Balotelli. I cannot sensibly answer questions with "possibility" in it but Dortmund are not looking to sell Reus.}

03 Aug 2014 11:10:18
There is no interest in him from us. He was just praising his ability.

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Ed said no fee agreed. Not, there is no interest. So that tells me that there could be interest.

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03 Aug 2014 10:47:37
The "back four" & "defense" are 2 different things. The key is to have midfielders that can disrupt the moment of the opposing midfield. I would expect a midfield of Can, Handerson & Gerrard to restrict any midfield in the league.

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I think that having Henderson and Can in our central midfield for the future is good news, both hard working and in Emre Can it looks like we've signed a cracker. But knowing that we can also rely upon Allen and Lucas is good to know.

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03 Aug 2014 10:35:30
Last night was practically the Joe Allen show. Well done lad keep it up!

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Good post. Doesn't matter how well he plays he usually never gets the credit round here.

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03 Aug 2014 10:33:35
Hi eds,
What is your opinion on the transfer window closing nearly 2 weeks after opening game of season.? don't you think that it should close on midnight of first game? also, do you think the day will ever come when each club has a cap on how much money they can spend in each window? to make things fairer for all clubs and not justbthe rich top six? love to get your opinions

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{Ed002's Note - The season starts at different times in different countries so there will always be a disparity. There is a cap on spending already in place from UEFA and will be further constraints issued by the EPL. Much depends on the income of the clubs of course, and some of the CL clubs want to self-regulate some of this - such as the cap on sponsorship in terms of FFP. This is the hot subject still and will dominate discussions when a number of sides meet to discuss several issues at the end of August in MC.

There remains a strong push from lower league sides to remove the transfer window altogether. There is mixed support for this from EPL sides.}

Eds, when you say the lower league clubs are pushing to have the windows removed. . meaning clubs can buy amd sell at any time through the year?

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{Ed002's Note - That is what many would like again.}

Ohh please no. The EDS would lose their minds. Never ending silly season.

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03 Aug 2014 10:20:05
Good game last night and another good fitness test,
Thought we controlled the game realy well and actually thought both Toure & Coates played well.
Joe Allen very interesting after seeing a few posts slating them - I commented then he will be a good squad player and thought we seen that.
Jordan Ibe - Looking strong and sharp and is really pushing to impress.

Think with the 2 full backs coming in we have a good young solid defense and think its vitally important we go out and get another creative pacey striker to work with DS. RL trying hard but he's brought in to provide something different if needed - We play with pace which makes us frightening

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Agree it was a good game, complete control throughout.
I thought Mignolet was great, not many mention him.
Sakho also looks more comfortable and less erratic, Skrtel looks solid.

I was one to slightly slate Allen. I've not said anything like I want him out, but I don't think he is good enough.
He did ok last night, but I still don't see anything great about him. He scored, but really he should have scored the first chance. I was more impressed with Can who played less minutes.

Allen maybe a good squad player but I still saw someone easily muscled off the ball, stray passing and no killer defence splitting passing. He broke up some play, neat 3yrd passes, he was ok nothing more. Lucas had just as good a game, no one comes on praising him?

Hope Suso gets a real chance, clever player and great goal.

Squad looks good

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03 Aug 2014 12:07:24
Most teams just need a grafter who can do the less talked about part of the game well. To have a player who can just press in a certain area and cut out options for the opposition and when possession gained quickly move the ball on to a more attacking minded and skillfull player is so valuable. They are never going to the heroes but they play a vital role in the team. Lots of fans only realise how important such a player is in a team when they are not on the pitch.

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IMH, I agree with that but we have Henderson, Gerrard and Lucas already and Can looks similar. I see those 4 as better players.
Allen isn't completely useless nor do I want him out, but I don't think he should play ahead of those as they are less likely to be bumped off the ball, they can pass long and just have better ability.

It's a squad of depth we want, I'd have Allen to cover injury or early cup rounds etc, but not in the 11 ahead of the 4 I've mentioned.

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I like Joe Allen. Think he has the determination to succeed and he is not short on quality either.
I also look back to the late stages of last season and his introduction had a positive impact on the team.
This season is more about our squad than a first eleven and I for one am more than happy to have Allen part of that squad.

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Agree with all these replies - I just look at him and as i'm sure you all remember - Over the past few seasons if aplayer was out it was so worrying as our squad was so thin all over the park - that's why I love what BR is doing and thickening our squad - Unfortunately we lost Luis but that can't be changed (Although not to dwell on it but wouldve loved to see the force we had this season with him but without the ban) but anyway if we had slight injuries in the team and the starting 11 shows on SS I wouldn't be worried because he was in the team if that makes sense - Not a starter but a very good useful squad player

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03 Aug 2014 10:05:25
Hello Eds and Reds. With Macca saying that Konopolyanka could be back on, am I the only one who is surprised it took this long for it to(possibly) be back on?

From the very little I have seen of him, he seems like a decent direct player who wants to take the step up. I also remember him cheering us on in the league last year and he allegedly rejected Manchester United.

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Yeah I don't understand how it got to the point where he was basically our player but only for the chairman or whoever to not release the paperwork. I mean if it's that far, to that point how come it's not resumed, we clearly wanted him, he signed up and agreed terms

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03 Aug 2014 08:46:14
Sturridge injured yet again. This guy is a modern day Darren anderton

Can't have lambert leading Liverpools attack for most games

How they haven't bought another striker is beyond me .
So what's the plan . Reply on sterling all season or the midfielders . Yea that worked for Chelsea didn't it. With their poor strikers

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03 Aug 2014 09:11:22
relax man there is plenty of time left and someone will step up the the plate

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I'm very relaxed I'm just saying they should have addresses that area a long time ago. It's common sense with Daniels injury record. Someone with pace and skill and could run on to a through ball
Arsenal suffered having just giroud upfront . And everyone didn't understand why wenger didn't get a striker it was just foolish
Lambert and Peterson. U think that's good enough then. Last year the club were very vocal about starting the season strong and being ready etc

Slow and disjointed this year

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You are not a Liverpool fan lobster. Does everyone forget every game at the back end of the season he would come on and say his prediction for us to lose. Why do you carry on this act to get a rise out of people.

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I think we've done really well so far in this transfer window. But I have to agree with Red Lobster, Sturridge is slightly injury prone probably due to his phenomenal speed and acceleration so we really do need a striker who can step in and allow the team play the same way they do when Sturridge is up top.

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Slow and disjointed? You have got to be out of your mind, we have done more business than any of the other teams, we have gotten our first choice targets and we have gotten 6 of them in with a month to go. Seems like we are doing exactly what we need to do. Some of the fans on this site can't miss a chance to knock the team for anything.

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3 games - 5 goals - 2 clean sheets

from a team that is probably less than 50% of our starting line up. They are doing okay and I am sure we will find our striker soon.

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Better hope for Reus then eh?

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03 Aug 2014 11:48:26
It's clear Red lobster is not a supporter of LFC. I would advise not replying at all to this guy. That is all he is here for.
We do need another forward however, but let's not let the dark clouds ruin what has been an excellent 12 month on and off the pitch.
YNWA

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What DaveyLiver said with nobs on!

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03 Aug 2014 08:45:30
It was interesting to see david fairclough on LFCTV lastnight talking about us needing a marquee striker.

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03 Aug 2014 05:26:25
Hi Ed,

Two questions:
Are we scouting the Bundesliga for young players?
If so, have we or another team looked at Timo Werner? This kid is the next big thing, "next Marco Reus" without a doubt.

The league is filled with great, young talents and German U19 team just won the European Championship and we should buy them before their price is inflated or before Bayern just buy all of them.

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - we are always trying to scout as many of the leagues as possible, especially around EU nations as it stops there being problems with getting a work permit. As for Werner, he has a huge waiting list of interested parties, you can add all the top European teams to it. Though personally I have never seen the lad play to know if he is good or not.}

Surely it'll help having his dad as our chairman?

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03 Aug 2014 04:59:23
The club made a statement about Lallana's injury. Can only hope this means Markovic is unlikely to miss the start of the season

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03 Aug 2014 04:19:29
Mario Balotelli yes or no Ed, must admit I like the big fella. he's got everything Brendan's looking for fast 6`2
great control, scores for fun, maybe his lift doesn't go to the top sometimes but he's not going to bite anybody so that's a plus.
£25 million or whatever the fee would be Mario and Dannyboy would be an awesome partnership

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{Ed001's Note - I love Mario as a person, as a football player utterly awful. Lazy, poor attitude, can never be relied upon to turn up at any point in a match, smokes and drinks far too much for the position he plays meaning his career at the top only has a few more years before he hits the downhill slope. I would rather have Remy and I really don't rate Remy.}

ED1 Your description suits some other great footballers - e, g, George Best to mention just one. I wonder what you like so much about his personality given how you describe him. I think the opposite - very talneted footballer but quite childish and insecure in his behaviour i.e. overacting and overreacting. You have to assume though that these will improve with age (I think they have already improved a bit). At the end of the day it is a question of comapring contribution to damage. If he shows up only once or twice in a game but then scores a brilliant goal (like aainst England) - who cares about the rest of the time. And he is the kind of player who will draw a lot of attention from defenders which leaves a lot of room for SAS. The main downside for me is potential for red cards so I would take him out after the first yellow card in a game. For me it can be an amazing signing not only in terms of actual contribution on the pitch but in rasing the standards of expectations and vibe around the team.

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How can you compare George Best and Mario Balotelli?
Worlds gone mad!

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03 Aug 2014 03:45:43
What I think will happen in the rest of the transfer period


Outs
Agger
Assaidi
Borini ( Eds thinks he will leave)
Coates
Illori (loan)
Johnson

Ins
Manquillo (loan)
Moreno
Konoplyanka (eds thinks it could be revisited)
Bony (eds said we're now looking at him after the whole remy saga)


If this happens would you be satisfied with our squad?

I would be

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I would agree with the above lists however I would sell Enrique and keep Borini because he could have an important versatile role to play this season. I would also remove Konoplyanka from the list because although he is a wonderful player I can see him affecting Ibes play time and development. We have got Sterling and Markovic with then Ibe (His performance yesterday was fantastic) and then one of Borini, Suso (excellent goal yesterday) Lallana & maybe Coutinho to also cover the wings.

What we need is the 2 new full backs and a poacher who will get on the end of balls. I cannot think of anyone more suitable than Bony for that role and to fit Liverpool style (NOT BALOTELLI!). Lambert is good but will only be an impact substitute

Finally a quick point on Joe Allen and how he was the best (or joint best with Ibe) player on the pitch with his passing and tackles with the goal rounding it all off. Very good player.

YNWA

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Seems about right Stevie. Yes I think it would be a very strong squad. Wouldn't mind Coates staying and if balotelli came cheapish I think he could be an unbelievable player for us( issue being there's equal amount chance he could be a nightmare!)

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Would prefer to keep Ilori and Borini.
Rather the money to buy Bony&Kono was spent on one player. Reus.

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03 Aug 2014 03:34:52
Eds, stepping away from the first team do you know of any clubs looking to take the young players on loan outside of the previously described interest in Paez/Ilori? Teixeira, Ibe in particular since they seem closest to breaking through but might need regular game time.

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{Ed001's Note - there are a few but the club is looking to assess them in preseason before deciding who to let out on loan. I know Peterson has a couple of English lower level clubs strongly interested, not sure if either will work for him. Off the top of my head, I can't remember the other but one was Barnsley.}

If you were the manager would u loan or keep ibe in the squad ed001?

if were really going to buy konoplyanka seems like he'll be going on a loan imo. he really seems to want to impress BR though.

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{Ed001's Note - I would keep Ibe and play him regularly, but then I am not under pressure to deliver trophies, so it is easy for me to say that. I am looking at it with a view to what is best for Liverpool's long term future, rather than with a view to winning something to keep my job. I might feel differently if it was my neck in the noose, like it is with Brendan Rodgers. As it is not, I feel that youth players should get more chances, especially the promising ones, as you never know for sure if they have it or not until they get the chance to show you. Flanno has shown that the right attitude can make all the difference.}

03 Aug 2014 03:12:09
Hey Eds
first time poster just wondering what ever happened to Yesil is he still with Liverpool injured or is he gone?

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{Ed001's Note - still with us for now at least.}

03 Aug 2014 02:51:37
What did everyone think about how we played tonight? Thought it was half arsed at times (I know its just a friendly and we was already in this final by that time) bt especially first half second half we looked better impressed with emre can and happy suso gt on score sheet bt I would like to read other people analysis n thoughts!

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Thought we were essentially playing our second string side for 65% of the game and they never once looked like scoring. We certainly didn't dominate play for most of the second half but it gives me increased confidence that we can look very comfortable at defending a lead even when we are playing rather poorly.

All in all it was a pretty dull game for the 70 minutes I saw but it's good to see game time for our youngsters. I personally think last night for me was the decider in Ibe needing a loan and Suso staying next season, Suso is clearly, talent wise in his current level of development a greater asset to the team of the two, not that Ibe won't be. I hope Rodgers can see Suso's talent because I really believe that not only is he a top player but he can also offer us a goal threat which some say there could be slight concerns over now Suarez has left.

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03 Aug 2014 10:43:03
Nice one dude

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03 Aug 2014 02:21:09
just a small concern and I am sure it will be sorted, but we are not creating enough goal chances, hope this is sorted before the first game proper! love the new signings.

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03 Aug 2014 02:15:00
What has happened to AC Milan?

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''Since joining the club in 1986, Berlusconi has mostly been spoiled by success. Starting from the legendary Sacchi team to the finest side built under Carlo Ancelotti, Milan and its president made a worldwide name through victories.

In the meantime, Berlusconi magnificently twisted the Rossoneri success to boost his political campaigns and increase his popularity in the country. But as soon as the financial crisis hit his business, Milan were among the first under the Fininvest holding company umbrella to suffer.

Classified as a wasteful leisure business by the president’s family, the universal Rossoneri soon came back on planet earth. CEO Galliani fought his way through the increasingly threatening economic climate, balancing books and keeping Milan alive on the pitch.

But the director too was at threat as he faced an internal conflict with Berlusconi’s daughter, Barbara, eager to cut off the old guard aiming for a more efficient - and hopefully successful – way of running the club.

While ultimately Berlusconi and Galliani agreed on continuing their legacy, allowing Barbara to co-exist in a management position with the current CEO, Milan have still struggled to find results on the pitch as well as financial stability off it.

Clarence Seedorf replaced Massimiliano Allegri on the bench, but little has changed since. Milan are out of the Champions League and in serious troubles in Serie A, most likely missing out on European qualification at the end of the season.

It’s a blow for a club that has shined for its international achievements and yet another financial knock for Berlusconi. With competition growing stronger in Italy and no income from the UEFA, Milan have a serious chance of falling even further behind their rivals.'' ~ Serafino Ingardia.

Thought it was interesting if nothing else. Reminded me when we had H&G in charge of us, how lucky we are now, to have genuine supportive owners.

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Thanks Ollieston, you're a star!

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03 Aug 2014 02:14:15
I wouldn't touch Balotelli with a barge pole! he's lazy, petulant, immature and disruptive, no wonder nobody wants to buy him and AC Milan have had to drop his price, he may be gifted but he is trouble, too much trouble, ask City! anyone with that kind of talent that wastes it like he does is an person, there is no guarantee
he would grow up under Brendan so it's to risky, spend the money on someone who is worthy.

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03 Aug 2014 02:01:28
Whoever got the "back to top" button on the mobile site so quickly. Thanks!

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{Ed001's Note - Ed033 did it, was it you that requested it? Thanks if so, it was something we never even considered or thought of.}

Yes it was and its a god send, your unique page views might decrease as I don't have to load a new page each time to get back to the new stuff, but you'll keep visitors like me longer per visit.

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03 Aug 2014 21:06:21
Are those web analytics metrics I hear ;)

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03 Aug 2014 01:47:47
some good performances tonight, I hope Lambert gets a couple of goals soon he looks like he needs it to settle him down, keep going Ricky lad, great to see Suso proving how good he is, I would like to see the starting 11 that will play our first game this season and give them a chance to play together, not just in training.

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Lambert is trying to hard at the moment instead of playing his game but a goal will change everything.

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03 Aug 2014 01:38:46
Great to see the midfielders getting goals.

We'll need that this season. Thought Ibe was good again and I think he has a role to play at the club this season instead of a loan.

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03 Aug 2014 01:18:26
What is happening with flanno because he hasn't been in starting 11 or bench for last couple of games

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03 Aug 2014 00:50:54
Last Season we squeezed out 101 goals, split:

Suarez - 31
Sturridge - 21
Gerrard - 13
Sterling - 9
Skrtel - 7
Own Goals - 6
Coutinho - 5
Henderson - 4
Agger - 2
Allen - 1
Moses - 1
Sakho - 1
Flanagan - 1
Total - 101

This season with conservative estimates let's guess that we will score:

Sturridge - 20
Sterling - 10
Gerrard - 5 (conservative guess on penalties)
Henderson, Allen, Can, Coutinho, Lallana - 25/30 (I believe this is achievable with each scoring a minimum of 5/6 goals)
Borini and Lambert - 10
Defenders - 5/10
Markovic, Ibe, etc - 5/10
Total - 80-95

Some may doubt some of these guesses, but I have tried to be conservative on figures, but also allowed for improvement on young players from last season. My lowest estimate comes to 80, which could still outscore every other team last season apart from City. The important part is tightening up that defence.

I think it is conceivable we could come close to matching last season with an improved bench (we only scored about 3 goals from player off the bench last season!), especially with some of the pace of our boys late on in games.

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03 Aug 2014 14:31:26
Nice post Jolly!

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03 Aug 2014 00:42:51
Thought I'd be the first to congratulate Joe Allen on his performance in the first half. Hopefully his goal will give him the confidence to put in that sort of effort week in week out. Good tracking back to help out the defence too.

You only have to look at Henderson to see what our midfielders need to do in this system. It's up to Allen to adapt to it and put in the effort.

Gutted for Lambert. Hope he gets off the mark soon.

Red Rum

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The efforts always been there mate. Just maybe not the fortune. Can't ever say I've ever felt he wasn't giving his all, just maybe his all didn't quite deliver what we all hoped for.

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Allen put in many very good performances last season. To suggest that he must adapt is just being silly.

This was one of Rodgers first signings as Allen already understood the pressing game otherwise Rodgers would not have brought him to Anfield so people need to start opening their eyes when he does play instead of just rambling of, saying he is useless, calling him names etc just because of his size and looks etc.

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Lambert is saving his first goal for the first league game lol

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03 Aug 2014 00:40:50
Haven't posted in a year or so but still read the site daily, felt the need though to ask some of yous about the idea of signing Balotelli. I think its abit silly to say he's a target just because Brendan has praised him but I honestly think he would be a quality signing I mean look at the likes of Suarez, Zlatan and Cantona they all had abit of unpredictability about them, so for 14-20m I think its a risk worth taking considering his age and resale value even if he is a flop. anyway back to the point what is the rest of your views?

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Well I didn't even see the guy run today, so how will he fit our system? At least Lambert tries when playing.
If we do get an attacker, it needs to be someone versatile for the wings as well as a striker.
Lets sort the full backs out first though.

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Suarez, Zlatan and Cantona were/are not lazy apathetic players. They might be a bit nuts in their own way but you couldn't really accuse them of not caring. Balotelli just doesn't work hard enough in my opinion and for the system we play that simply isn't acceptable.

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I've got a great idea for a business mate. I'm a bit prone to not turning up and might even get arrested for doing something a bit mental but it's only 14 million pounds after all and if it doesn't work out I'll definitely pay you back some of that money. Fancy backing it??

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There are many, many others I'd much rather have. Volland, Son, Lacazette, Bony, Okazaki, etc, etc.

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Balotelli is a small gamble but you no what happens when class players come to Anfield and feel the passion. They become world class! We have the best man manager in the league in Brenden who would get him to the next level for sure.

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03 Aug 2014 10:14:18
Regardless of what I think of Balotelli as a player, his troubling past + vices outweigh his talent/skill. With having so many young lads at the club you absolutely can NOT allow risking having Balotelli mixing in with them and turning the grapes sour. Outside Stevie, the club lacks true senior leadership to deal with his potential tirades atm.

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03 Aug 2014 00:03:15
Hi eds lfc fans
Just looking at the team tonight would anybody else be happy to put a similar team out in the early stages of the pl cups
I think we have some good depth to the team this year we look like we know what we are doing whatever team we put out what does everybody think cheers guys

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02 Aug 2014 23:30:29
Hi everyone,

Reading everyday although haven't posted in ages.

I'd just like to express my joy on the whole organisations business this summer, top job so far, I for one will be the first to admit I had my doubts about the owners willingness to spend but they've surpassed themselves IMO, not putting a dampener on it by asking and also edds I won't include any figures, but, have Liverpool overspent, not on players directly but as a whole should we be taking things a little easier than we are? I'm really looking forward to the new season and the game now so thanks in advance,

Ps I think mere can will be a beast!

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