Liverpool Banter Archive July 31 2013

31 Jul 2013 22:23:57
I have a couple of questions and would like to hear people's thoughts, one is about the team and the other is trivia.

1. I feel we would really benefit from a top quality CB. We here about signing young players with a potential for profit but does anyone think it would be worthwhile paying a over the odds to acquire the right player, at the right age, to become the bedrock of our defence for the next 10 years or so? e.g MU signing Rio. If so who?

2. With Lorenzo Melgarejo looking likely to sign on loan I started thinking about loan signings we have made and would like some help. I can think of:

Paul Jones
Nicolas Anelka
Ronny Rosenthal
Ian Rush (I seem to remember when he signed for Juventus they had too many foreign players and loaned him back for the 1988-87 season)

are there any others you can think of?

01 Aug 2013 00:06:50
Nuri Sahin

1)
If u want a CB for the next "10 years" as you put it, well then surely we would have to stick to buying young.
a 21/22 year old to continue into their early 30s. i'm sure the club are looking at something like this, and its still stickin to their policy. (Alot said about Papadopoulos but the rumours seem to come and go).

2)
Not sure about the loans, seem to loan out more so than loan in

Jak

Mascerano

31 Jul 2013 22:08:57
Dear eds, Could you tell me if you think that getting a work permit for melgarejo will be easy or do you anticipate it being an issue, as I know that the boy only has one cap for Paraguay but is still young,

Thanks,
Saadi {Ed002's Note - The criteria is clear, you decide.}

31 Jul 2013 21:51:11
Eds is it likely that we will be recruiting a couple of 5-10 mill young players in the window or will we be competing for proven quality at a considerably higher cost?

The drive to get the high wage earners shipped out seems to suggest plan A which I don't have a problem with but would be good to know what you all think is our direction of travel.

Daniellambretta

Does it matter how much they cost if they're an improvement on what we have?

Sturridge or Carroll?
Coutinho or Shelvey?
Aspas or Downing?
Alberto or Spearing


Each player was cheap* in real terms but would you rather have what we have now or the expensive one they replaced?

Why are people so obsessed with how much a player costs rather than how much better they'll make our team?

31 Jul 2013 21:40:57
Suarez wants out and that is a fact. The funniest thing is that there are not many clubs bigger than Liverpool that are interested in him as he comes with too much drama. Arsenal won't pay the asking price (which will be at least 50 mill) Real are after Bale. Barcelona don't want him, PSG have just bought Cavani, Man City have just splashed the cash and I don't see Bayern forming a line for his services. United wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. I don't see Chelsea after him either. He is going to look a right bell isn't he when he has to stay at Liverpool.

Out of those clubs only Real and Barca, and arguably Bayern and as much as it kills me to say it United, are bigger than us. And I'd say with our history we are as big as Bayern and United.

There are a lot of english teams who have a greater written history than Liverpool but not a trophy history.

'we are as big as bayern and united' don't take the p*ss. we have a good history alright, but being a 'big' club is far more than just that.

We need to be doing far more in the present to call ourselves a 'big' club. Do we say Leeds or Forest are big clubs because of their history? No.

Bayern and United both bring in about triple our revenue, have more worldwide fan support, have won FAR more in the last decade, and their history rivals even ours.

They are much bigger clubs. Wake up and smell the coffee

95 thousand in the mcg begs to differ

We are a big club just not as conpetitive right now

31 Jul 2013 20:33:53
Was just wondering if I could ask any of the eds about a youth team player I kind of know, just wondering about progress ans stuff. Would any of the eds be able to help me?
Thanks {Ed001's Note - depends which one mate?}

An Irish lad called Daniel Cleary, just wondered if you knew anything about his progress or how the club view him.

Progressing very well. Think he's the only player to have played the full 90 minutes of the first two U18 matches and has been captaining the 'U17' team in their two games in the Milk Cup. He's in the 17-18 age group (2nd year at Academy), which is the least promising group at present - Ibe is in there but only O'Hanlon, Trickett-Smith and Jones showing any real potential atm - so Cleary is beginning to stand out a bit. At that age players can progress incredibly quickly so you never write players off anyway - I remember Flanno's promotion surprised me a bit as there were much more high-profile youth players in the ressies at the time, but his consistency and his being a specialist RB helped him when first team injuries came about. Be an interesting season for the U18s, as usual, but likely we will see Cleary step up and feature for the U21s at some point.

-Nibbits

31 Jul 2013 20:37:35
I'd take anyone right now. Fowler, Owen even big jan molby ha ha just give me someone!

Jay wales

Too many jokes!!

31 Jul 2013 20:26:57
I'm getting bored now!
I need some players please br!
It seems as though any future transfers are dependent on Suarez doesn't it eds?
Why else are we stalling on all our targets?
I appreciate the negotiations etc can take time but come on!
I need players!
Pls answer eds I'm desperate here

Jay wales

Think you've answered your own question there. Stalling over new targets due to Suarez not being sold as of yet. BR is not being hung out to dry and will try get 50m for Suarez and there is no rush, still got another month in the transfer window left.

FowlerGod.

Back int' day before transfers had to go through a window, summers were much more exciting.
You'd maybe see 1 or 2 sometimes as many as 3 new signings for a club.

These days of generation XBOX, fans are not satisfied unless there is a new player walking through the window every other week.

By the same token they openly have the neck to whine about the team's 'lack of consistency'.

We won't win anything if we strive to break up the squad every 12 months and double it's size.

Ron Manager

Agreed Ron.

2 new first 11 players in January, arguably 3 more already in Mignolet, Aspas, and Toure. That's 5 new likely starting 11 players in 2 windows and I imagine probably at least one more to come in still. The team we have now is almost unrecognizable compared to what we had this time last year and still people want more.

Ron manager, we won't win anything with this group of players. I'd be happy being consistent and not signing a single player for 7 years if we had a good team. But we are miles behind and need to catch up
DBol

Dbol, realistically, we're pretty unlikely to win the league simply due to financial reasons.

It can be done and occasionally it won't hold true (see Everton last couple of seasons as a good exception), but in general the 38 game finish at the head of the table and be crowed winner format will make it very difficult to allow clubs with lesser revenues/wage bills (such as where we are at the moment, unfortunately) to compete against those with larger ones.

It helps even less when the only way to get CL is to be near the head of that table. Frankly, I think there needs to be some sort of playoff system or something for at least one of CL spaces, perhaps the winners of the FA cup or something similar?

31 Jul 2013 22:27:53
Man u have spent roughly the same as Liverpool in the last ten years its money to a certain degree and then it's knowledge luck and good academy graduates.

Makes sense, the rich get richer as it goes.

Here's my analogy DBol:

It's like flowers. You can go to a lovely up market over-priced florist and ask them for the top of the range flower display. You pay a fortune but you know they are the best money can buy.

You take them home and put them on display and they look spectacular. for a week or two. But then they wither and die. Your only option is to go back to the shop and over pay for some more.

Alternatively you can buy some seeds and grow your own beautiful flowers. They take time to nurture and grow, they need food and protection from the elements. But when they mature and flower they will last all season. Better still you have some fertile soil which you can plant more seeds in year after year. Sustainable, value for money organic growth
A far cry from jumpers for goalposts.

Ron Manager, isn't it?

31 Jul 2013 22:53:38
RDL. Spot on now that UEFA are going to give the winners of the Europa a CL spot it wil give it extra importance when it kicks in. This in turn will give our domestic cups added importance also as even though its a 2yr journey, for some its there only shot. So if we made positions 4, 5, 6 & 7 play off for the final cl spot it would give even more value to extra league positions and allow for an end of season spectacle that could be played at venues in overseas markets, allowing the epl to further its product around the world. Many birds, one stone.

How can we miss on targets that we don’t know, the club did not announce list of targets they supposed to be after so how can lfc be missing on targets, unless you know something we don’t or you believe every thing the paper say if that is the case than every week we are suppose to be targeting at least 3 players mate.

Agreed, illusion of kewel. For the life of me I can't figure out why there isn't some sort of playoff for something in the PL and something like you mention I think would be a very smart move. Huge moneymaking opportunity for the league and the teams involved and a chance to spread the wealth a bit, eh?

So do the winners of Europa really now get a CL spot? I thought that was more of a rumor.

We'll sign some players Jay just because you're bored, sure it seems like the logical thing to do in terms of business.

Jak

The foundation of ManU's success was the academy graduates they produced in 1992 (Giggs, Scholes, Beckam, Neville Bros.)

The foundation of Barca's success is the academy graduates that came through about ten years ago (Xavi, Iniesta, Messi).

The foundation of Dortmund's success is the academy graduates that came through about five years ago.

We need the academy to come good. Simple as that.

Haha I love the flower logic it makes sense. But if the 'money clubs' are swooping in taking all our best players that we've nurtured then we are just a feeder club. We are 3 top class players away from challenging for the league
DBol

It's just the frustration of being linked with everyone. Some good some bit so good. But nothing moving! Everyone knows the players we want and the players we need. Just wish we'd go out and get them now. Give them time to gel not get them in last week of window just to save a couple of quid.
Just my opinion
Jay wales

01 Aug 2013 09:20:13
RDL. Yeah it was voted through a couple of months back kicks in 2014/15 season. why things couldn't have been juggled for this season I don't know, but then again makes no difference to us. Makes qualifying for it less of a waste of a Thursday night.

31 Jul 2013 20:21:24
Any idea who we have lined up in case Suarez does leave ED's? I've not seen anything lately at all. Surely we won't be going into the season with Aspas replacing him? We were already short in attacking numbers, unless Ibe has done enough to become a regular but its always a risk at his age, for the team and him physically. {Ed002's Note - Anything I know of right now has been shared.}

31 Jul 2013 19:38:37
Our former academy goalkeeper Tyrell Belford has joined Swindon Town on a free. Best of luck lad, YNWA

31 Jul 2013 19:02:08
If Suarez does eventually leave, have we got a replacement lined up? Our bid to put pressure on the top 4 will obviously be heavily dented if we lose him and with the first game of the season not too far off now we need to start sorting this saga out now don't we? I've heard a few names being banded about but we need some real class to replace him don't we?
Thanks,
Tobes. {Ed002's Note - He won't be available for the first few games regardless.}

31 Jul 2013 19:36:03
Can anyone confirm the kick off time for gerrards testimonial on Saturday.The website says 12.45pm whilst the time on the ticket is 2pm. cheers

12.45. It was moved for some reason

12.45 changed so it can be shown on BT sport

Cheers for that glad I checked or I could've had one very disappointed 10yr old son, thanks again.

31 Jul 2013 19:32:55
are fsg going to look for [investers] to help out or is it a smoke screen for new owners loads of rumours in ireland sayin club is for sale on hush hush maby they realise what they got in to and just can't cope wit finance side of things {Ed002's Note - If investors were to buy 25% of the club for £100M for example, do you expect that money to go on players or do you expect it to go to the owners who have sold part of an asset?}

As successful and responsible business men, I would expect the owners to invest that money in upgrading the stadium. Longer term they should make that money back either through the increased revenue or through the club having a higher valuation.

Raoul

Why would they do that Raoul? What's the point of selling part of an asset and then just giving that money back to the asset? They might as well have just used their own money in the first place and at least still had full control of the asset.

31 Jul 2013 18:40:23
i came across this piece of info and figured it would be useful for everyone here on the site.

Regarding Work Permits for Players.

UK laws rule that any footballer from a country outside the European Union must have played 75% of his national team's senior competitive games over the past two years in order to qualify automatically for a work permit. In addition, that country must be in the top 70 of FIFA's rankings when averaged over the past two years.

Its not as clear cut as that

31 Jul 2013 18:54:42
Thanks Slim. Must admit its an area I have little knowledge of. I understand that is the simplest form, a player automatically getting the permit, but cheers, it will help us all understand why some signings are difficult.

Eds, is this why interest in Bernard has hotted up so much, because he now qualifies for a work permit, due to playing consistently, although mosy from the bench, for Brazil for the last season or two?

Anfield Andy {Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Bernard. He has been of interest to EPL and other European clubs for a long time.}

31 Jul 2013 18:12:45
Well that's good news for u guys, brent has said he won't sell Suarez to one of Liverpools rivals, tbh I dnt think Swansea or wba could afford him anyway
CTR

Very good I had to laugh but I be more concerned about ye lot bending over for chelsea with rooney .

That jokes been going round for the past week don't quit your day job mate comedy isn't your thing

31 Jul 2013 17:49:46
Caulker 8m is good price wish we had got him

Stv

That is a good price. either BR is happy with the CBs we have or we're definitely trying to buy Toby or Papa

He left for regular first team football in World Cup year.

He's more likely to get that at Cardiff.


Ron Manager

31 Jul 2013 17:20:51
Hi Eds, is Melgarejo the left winger you predicted we would sign (I know he used to play LB)? Really hope not. {Ed001's Note - I don't know which Ed that was, but it does seem he is signing to cover both positions, though mainly on the wing. Not sure why you hope not, as he was starring on the wing.}

Because we need another goal scorer from the wings or the AM position, someone like Mkhitaryan, not a WB.

He will allow a change of formation to wingback and also allows enrique to bombb forward whilst he covers. better than downing anyway

I read he was a grate winger shocking full back but Rogers isn't buying someone on the blind eye make or break season for Rogers every signing will be carefully chosen come on

31 Jul 2013 16:26:36
Ed001, I'd like your to know your thoughts on this one. Without naming any names. Would sign a playmaker and let Coutinho play wide or would you sign a wide player and let Coutinho through the middle? {Ed001's Note - Coutinho deserves a shot down the middle, in my opinion. He was a revelation last season, let's get him in his best position as often as possible, which is down the middle.}

Totally agree Ed 1. He is far more effective through the middle and seems to influence games from there much more. That said, he seems to have the game intelligence to play wherever he thinks he can get most involved which is one of his attributes I really like.

Ed is our interest in Konoplyanka genuine?
If so he would be ideal to complement Coutinho as both of them can interchange between LW and AM. Just feel we need to get in a quality attacker it would be wrong to pin our top 4 hopes on a 21 yr old. {Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}

31 Jul 2013 16:49:16
Once and for all. Torres will not be coming. It's getting embarrassing.

Why not? He's always insisted that he wanted to return to his beloved club and as he will be available for 5-10 million, I don't see why not.

Anyway, he left the club on quite good terms and apparently still visits mellwood every few weeks to catch-up with some of the boys.

One other thing, he still uses Torbo's on Scottie Rd for a rinse and some streaks and is forever tellin' Mr Torbo just how much he still loves the City.

Never say never.

DaveyBootle

If it's true, a good insight Davey.

I thought he said he wanted to return to Atletico? {Ed002's Note - Valencia has made an approach to Chelsea.}

31 Jul 2013 16:15:59
Lorenzo Malgarejo is a real Jem:
22yrs
plays LB, LM, LW
Cheap wages
Option to buy
No initial loan fee

Better than cissokho imo

Do we know why they're letting him leave?

Letting him leave because he was played out of position at lb and struggled, he is a good winger so hopefully he would be played there?

Bruno Cortez was brought in as first choice for same position left back and he was chosen above melgarejo (apparently). They do have him on contract till 2018)

Inter let Coutinho leave. [FR]

31 Jul 2013 15:23:43
Liverpool to get leon btittian to conpete with lucas

Black swan

We would be better off with Little Britain!

31 Jul 2013 15:22:16
Liverpool Transfer Committee meeting

Have we heard of him?
"Yes"
Nah, you're alright la

Have we heard of him?
"No"
COME TO MEEEE!

Wait you don't know Toure or Mignolet? What league have you been watching then?

Ok so your a top scout then!!

This new left back must be rubbish if you've not heard of him.

LAVERS

31 Jul 2013 15:05:47
I'm sorry but people saying Suarez isn't worth £50m+, but what about bale? He's had one good half season and suddenly he's worth £90m?! It's a f*****g joke!

Eh 1 good half season you obviously don't watch much football. he destroyed players in the cl and that was ages ago. people think bale is a one season wonder are way off the mark he has been improving drastically over the last 3 years and now is the finished article, although I agree 85 million is a joke so I think levy will sell but not because he has to as he is part owner of the company

dave

Bale was young player of the season in 2010 I think, or was it was football writers player, I forget. But to suggest he only half a good season is nonsense. He s without question the best player in the EPL and other than ronaldo and messi the best player in europe.


Im a Liverpool fan mate but I'm afraid to tell you he's twice the player suarez will ever be. Not least because of suarez's penchant for getting himself baned every season for petulant behavior.

Put it this way if carroll was wrth 35 is Bale 3x the player? Of course he is and more.

We have seen the best of Suarez, its unlikely he will improve any further, but the best of Bale is yet to come. He could seriously end up as the best player of his generation, so 90m, yeah, in the context of the current market yes he's worth it

Andy H

Spurs apparently want 80M+ for him and Real may (or may not) be willing to pay that. I think most would concede that Real have a fair number of people who know their football, so if they think he's worth it then I think their opinion may be slightly more valid than yours.

Yeah Bale is also 24 years old whilst Suarez is 26 now. You have to factor ages in as it is obviously something that clubs will look at how much longer they can play etc.

All the original poster is trying to say is that Suarez is on a par with bale if not better in my opinion.

How cab Bale be worth more than Ronaldo?

Suarez would of won the Golden Boot had he not been silly and bite Ivanovic which resulted in him missing the last 4 games, he also should of won Footballer of the year but once again he throw it away when he bite Ivanovic.

Bale is a very good player but I struggle to see how he is worth more than Suarez who was by far the better player last season and Liverpool want £55M which to me is very reasonable, if I were Levy i'd snap Madrid's arm off and run with the £85M before they get bored with waiting and switch transfer targets, I would rate Bale in the £35M - £50M bracket at best.

Don't think he is worth that much ATM, but look back 3 years. I remember bale getting sent off and conceding a penalty at lb and thinking he was completely useless for most of the season. Than rumours about him going for 3m to Birmingham or used as a bit part to get downing.3 years later and his overall development is staggering. Each season over the past 3 years he has improved drastically! Even just from last season he has become soooo much better. Imagine if he does it again next season. Plus Ronaldo and Bale with players like ozil and isco creating for them will rip teams to pieces!

With all due respect, Big D, you're asking the wrong people that question. You should be asking Levy or someone over in the Madrid hierarchy.

That said, Suarez is not a 'far better player' than Bale (and I really don't like Bale at all- that stupid smug heart celebration drives me mad) but let's look at the stats shall we (noting that both players played almost the same number of minutes):

Suarez minutes per goal: 128.5
Bale minutes per goal: 139.2
Suarez shooting accuracy: 50%
Bale shooting accuracy: 55%
Suarez assists: 5
Bale assists: 4
Suarez chances created: 90
Bale chances created: 75
Suarez clearances: 3
Bale clearances: 60
Suarez interceptions: 18
Bale interceptions: 42
Suarez passes: 1, 203
Bale passes: 1, 131
Suarez passing accuracy: 76.6%
Bale passing accuracy: 78.5%

From my perspective, I think generically that many LFC supporters are overrating Suarez and underrating Bale, but for the record I don't personally think either is worth 85M either.

Goals and Assist wins you games and Suarez out did Bale on both of them.They both swallow dive (which is cheating) Bale is way overrated a top player, but to cost 30 million more than Cavani and falcao come off it. {Ed001's Note - to be fair, Bale was mainly playing further back than Suarez, so he should be outscored by him.}

By 2 goals and 1 assist? If that's the metrics you want to look at then Sturridge is better than both by quite a bit.

Iwould expect that bales goals per shot ratio is a lot better than suarez. suarez had about 6 shots per game.

I thought so as well, what a hit son, but it actually wasn't the case, at least in the PL proper. Both were about 16% with Bale a small bit lower than Suarez. I suspect if you add in the cups, CL, Europa that might change, but in the league they were both pretty similar there.

I've actually looked at the stats for most of the major strikers and to be honest the real standout was Sturridge. His production was fantastic for us, far better than anyone else I can think of that I looked at. Lukaku was no slouch either, although his passing was pretty poor.

Yeah bale may not like living in Spain language barrier ect he strikers me as a shy kid in interviews in wish him the best he has the ability but with people like Ronaldo around and that price tag it won't be easy the young lad is under so much pressure its crazy

As I said yesterday. how can someone who's won nothing with his teams be worth 85m?
If Bale was as good as what people are saying, then Spurs would have won something by now
And the fact that he is being valued at 85m and Neymar cost Barca only 50m is an absolute disgrace

31 Jul 2013 15:01:26
why is renia complaining in the newspapers?

He wanted a move to Barcelona and tried playing the club to get his move to the biggest club in the world, but the bid for him never came. So he ended up burning his bridges at Liverpool. We went off and get a replacement because he had said he was packed and ready to move to Barcelona We clearly can't afford to pay two first team keepers. So one had to leave and that was always going to be the Renia, the guy who wanted out. I'm surprised he didn't go to Arsenal in a move.

You've answered your own question dude.

He's bitching 'cos he played it wrong and it back fired.

I expect his mrs is giving him hell. "YOU TOLD ME YOU'D ONLY UPROOT US FOR BARCELONA!"

Lol!

Mart

31 Jul 2013 14:43:11
I am tired of reading posts on here saying we are not spending, we all need to be clear we are NOT going to spend like City or Chelsea or big head Real Madrid, fans have to realise we DO NOT have the money, we almost went bankrupt under H&G, and FSG saved us, stop expecting to compete with oil sheiks, we can't, and it makes you look stupid to bitch about it, do you want to end up like Leeds United? (no offence Leeds) then pack it in, we would all love to pay £80 million for players but it's not going to happen so grow up and get used to it, we ALL have passion for LFC, we all want to compete, but we have to live within our means, if anyone is not happy with that, give up your season ticket, (i am sure there will be a queue for it) and support City or the Chavs.

31 Jul 2013 14:34:32
Out of our new signings so far, I expect Mignolet to prove to be the best acquisition

Noticeably he cost the most also

I'm quite happy with all so far but would probably say Toure

31 Jul 2013 14:27:04
For those asking, milk cup highlights are on BBC red button (9.00pm) and on BBC website. Proper exciting times ahead when some of these youngsters make it through to first team.

31 Jul 2013 14:04:39
Caulker available for £9million. I'd jump in for him at that price. Rodgers is a fan too.

Good player, good price, English lad and fits the policy of FSG i'd sign him over Papa all day!

Just signed for cardiff

31 Jul 2013 13:57:46
Just some food for thought regarding the wages of footballers. Liverpools wage bill for 2013 is roughly 1.5m a week. There are 25,000 season ticket holders at Anfield. If every player was to forgo just ONE weeks wages (now you could make that the last week of the season, the first week of the season or even pre season) it would mean a reduction of £60 for EVERY season ticket. Now looking at Anfield ticket prices, for the most expensive season ticket, that would mean a reduction from £850 to £790 and the cheapest from £710 to £650. Ok some may say £60 isn't a great deal to save compared to what these players earn, but look at it this way: the most expensive ticket for a league game at Anfield is £58, so a £60 saving would effectivly mean getting one game free. At the other end, the cheapest ticket is £28.50, so a £60 saving would effectivly mean getting 2 games free. The amount of money these players are on, one weeks wages won't harm them, but it would go a very very long way with the fans.

The moral of this story is to get everyone off the wage bill so we can get to games for free.

Wouldn't that be nice!

:P

SR (StrabaneRed)

For a few games I might add.

SR (StrabaneRed)

It doesn't work like this. The players receive bonus and all sorts and financially to make the club profitable it makes sense for them to charge more for things like the big games.

31 Jul 2013 12:21:50
Do you know if Liverpool are interested in Yevhen konoplyanka? Or whether he is low on the list of possible signings.

If we were to sign him then that would be a great signing. I've seen the kid play and he is seriously something special. Great acceleration, dribbling and has the end product to match.

Would love to know if there is even the slightest possibility of signing him. Great work as always ED's!

LFC'S MANGO {Ed019's Note - We haven't heard of concrete interest at this time}

There is still time in the window for us to make the squad top 4 quality but will we do it is another matter. Ed don't you genuinely feel we don't have any money this window?
Just need to get Papadopoulos, The Benfica LB, A DM back-up, 1 top attacker (Konoplyanka) to replace Skrtel, Downing, Coates, Spearing and others and force Suarez to stay atleast 1 more season and its a great window.

31 Jul 2013 13:24:10
Suarez will be staying to jan and will be aloud to leave for r m
Then

Complete rubbish. You think we will let him serve his ban then get him match fit maybe find a little form then ship him out? Give your head a wobble

31 Jul 2013 13:17:27
are at it again saying LFC in for Torres!

Cant wait until he moves on - hopefully out of the EPL so these rumours can end.

Their is a post saying it has all been agreed, after reps from both sides meet in london over the weekend.5year deal 150000 aweek deal, torres also told that he would be 3rd in line at chelsea on a world cup year making him aprove to the move.
this is all on the sale of suarez tho.

It will never end until he retires mate. Maybe even not then LOL.

The real AG

Sorry don't believe any of it!

31 Jul 2013 13:10:25
Just watched the road to Istanbul nearly in tears haha can't wait for the CL to be back at where it belongs with anfield rocking unbelievable the quater, semi and final was the best iv ever heard! YNWA

31 Jul 2013 13:47:12
I use to watch once in every week. its such a spl.
". I was returning from Istanbul to the Airport. and I saw this scoreline on TV. Never Ever Give up. "

31 Jul 2013 12:56:17
Hi eds what do you make of the latest news on the Suarez saga according to BR. The coach has stated that Suarez is happy at the club and understands Liverpools no sale stance. This contradicts everything that has gone before it. Surely this isn't true? South Aussie red

31 Jul 2013 13:23:20
No we should sell him. He cannotm continue as a Liverpool Player anymore, the fans hate him and he should go

Not all fans hate him. Some realize the media could've thrown gas on a spark

The only fans that allegedly " hate " him are a few trolls on here. I would suggest the 40 odd thousand that turn up every week would love to see him on the team sheet every week.
You can't just buy quality like him very often, and at the moment he is still ours to enjoy.

Correct John B

Evered

31 Jul 2013 12:04:58
Not lfc but think spurs doing very good job in hyping bale s price up all this 100 m talk wow, take the money and run any thing can happen in football, form, fall outs, injury, etc now my take on it is well pace is a big part of his game now that means if if pulls any thing etc things might take its toll on him, I think he very good player but for that money get gone and spend the money well would be bad for us but very good for spurs if you ask me, we'll done mr levy
Ynwa lfc linc

31 Jul 2013 11:54:58
Medical to take place for Portuguese kid in 48 terms of the loan being finalised

His not Portuguese he is from Paraguay.

31 Jul 2013 14:04:44
Brendensdentist.

what a name. Laughing all the way.

31 Jul 2013 11:36:21
Hi Eds

How serious is the Napoli interest in Martin Skrtel, is a loan a viable option or do you think Liverpool would prefer a sale if we decide to let him go

Think Papadopolpous would be a great replacement, again if the interest is as strong as reported and he passes a medical with his knee

I would say that should be it then for CB Agger, Papa, Toure, Coates with Kelly and Wisdom both able to cover the position as well as RB, or are we still looking to moe Coates on and replace him also

Sorry for so many questions regarding one position in one post haha

MikeCass
YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - They are interested in Skrtel. I cannot comment on a loan being an option.}

31 Jul 2013 11:08:51
Wow I'm just watching the milk cup highlights and whoever is in charge of youth signings deserves a pay rise, chirivella, canos and polgar all in one window, I'm lost for words, they've instantly become key players.

This is the first time in a long while I've seen so many players that could make it to the first team - wilson, chirivella, rossiter, canos, polgar, sinclair, mclaughlin, o'hanlon, ojo, kent, texeira, suso. the list goes on. Then we've got ibe and sterling, we could actually dominate for at least a decade and all players are in the 16-20 age barrier and Coutinho is the jewel in the crown, I'm not saying we're the new Barcelona but what were doing does mirror what they did when they got the likes of messi, iniesta and xavi though. These players have the talent they just need time, patience and good coaching.

Lil Red

Where did you catch the highlights mate?

100% Agree
We are just seeing the start of a influx of great young talent
Sterling, Ibe, Wisdom, Kelly, Ward are just the start
I have never seen so much talent at LFC.
Need a few more Scousers though.

I'm not that knowledgable on the youth players. But one thing I do like about the whole system now, from youth to first team, is that all the sides play in a similar manner / formation.
This hasn't happened for a long time, probably since the days when we used to clean up the old Central League title every year.
What would be nice, in the longer run, is to see some progression for the coaches too maybe. Create the old dynasty. If top people can be attracted to the club, try to keep them there!

The Juicer

I read an interesting article recently about 'layering' within a club based on ages, which is apparently a basketball strategy in the states. Basically you have chunks of players in similar age groups e.g. 18-22, 23-26, 26+. It works on the basis of having these guys grow together, know each other and theoretically peak at the same time. Some players are mature for their age and sit in the group above (Coutinho I think he used as the example I think), others mature later and may sit in the group below (I think he used Aspas as his example).I have no idea if this is what we are doing however there does seem to be some correlation with our current set up, age ranges, individuals etc.

Andy K

Some very good points made buy the Juicer and Andy K. No name as well it's always good alright the extra passion from local players.

Where did you catch those highlights?

No one mentioned Coady like the lad a lot. Fills me with pride to see the academy setting up like this. Would like to see more scousers being developed from young rather than buying in young talent. That's the next step

Been saying it for ages. When Rodolfo Borrell is around pickin up these gems you don't have to worry about 20 mil players.

Alfie

31 Jul 2013 10:51:06
I've just seen the list of banned words at Anfield for the coming season. are they trying to drive Luis Suarez out of the club!!!

Is silverware one of them?

31 Jul 2013 10:24:56
Hey Eds and Reds :)

Quick question.

With Arsenal blatantly trying to invoke the '£40m+' clause in Suarez' contract my question is how would they even know about such a clause?

I can only guess they pre contacted the agent or player?

Is that not tantamount to 'tapping up'?

They're blatantly letting the player know they want him and finding out clauses in which way is best to get him.

Seems quite underhand to me.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree here? Lol


Mart {Ed002's Note - Wrong tree Mart.}

31 Jul 2013 13:19:45
I think this is interesting, when Liverpool invoked a clause in Christian Ziege's contract it ended up with fines and court cases.

His clause was fairly public and apparently was discussed on International Duty with other players playing for Liverpool at the time.

In this case it seems the agent has told Arsenal about the clause.

The end result for Liverpool was a dressing down and a fine, which I think would be appropriate here too.

I think Liverpool would need to complain to the authorities first though. {Ed002's Note - THi has been discussed for the past year on this forum.}

31 Jul 2013 10:17:50
I really shouldn't read the LFC related gossip half asleep in the morning as I get too wound up but here goes nothing.
Do we have any money to spend at all?
Im just throwing it out there, I personally don't think we have, I don't doubt the owners wanting the best for us but if they think running things on a shoestring is going to restore us to the top four then they are deluded, Ill support whatever happens as I've been a fan all my life and I've seen the best times as well as the low points but we'd be daft to think we can waltz straight back into the top four right now,
We have a few issues and not just ones that are rectified by a fifa football mentality, things like the stadium redevelopment are going to take way more time than people realise, and not having champions league money year in year out puts us in a position a lot poorer than those above us, especially those with brand new stadiums etc, I hate to be a party pooper but if you were a Chelsea or City fan would you be excited by our new signings?. As fans we automatically convince ourselves that these can be our new set of heroes who can take us forward but can they?
Aspas is quite clearly a quality player but needs time in the Prem to bed in. Alberto although looking comfy on the ball also has no experience.Toure has bundles of experience but isn't getting any younger and came on a free. Mignolet ill admit I think is a good quality signing and should give us a boost at the back. but if we had big money to spend would these be signed or even looked at?. I don't think so
Im not putting us down or expecting the Ronaldos of this world to be signing anytime soon but i'm calling for realism. Does anyone seriously know anything about Papadopolous or Alderweirld or Melagrejo or konoplyanka. Probably next to nothing yet we big up these potential signings like they are the missing links. Are any of these defensive players better than Skrtel?. I don't believe so. is this Kono whatever fella any better than what we already have?. his rep says so but will it transfer to the Prem?
im saying we all need to calm down, ignore all the daft rumours flying about and see what's what come the end of the window. As it stands we have one of the best 3-4 strikers in the world in Suarez and a promising bunch of youngsters being schooled by people like Stevie G, we're doing ok with low cash to spend. But let's not expect miracles eh. Its a long trek to the promised land and we're only just setting off
YNWA JFT96

Below is an excerpt from an earlier post which is another way of looking at it. I have edited it to my thoughts slightly to what has happened thus far (mostly). At the begining of the window, would you have taken the results below with a month to go while still holding our trump card and at minimal net cost?

Mignolet-Reina
Toure-Carra
Alberto-Shelvey
Aspas-Assaidi (not done yet but strongly on the cards)

I see everyone one of them as an improvement or at least a good chance to be.

Then, Suarez, Coates, Spearing and Skrtel out, for Papadopoulos (strong centre back), Praet (or another youngish, team ready, speedy/sharp forward-Mkhitatyan type), Melgarejo (or another lower expense and young left back who can get forward) and a defensive midfielder as cover for Lucas, maybe a stronger and better in the physical. Would you see that as a good window?

I don't think basic points, if not the exact players in, are unrealistic or the players out. Maybe even with some change to spare.

Point being, there is plently of potential left in the window, no need to panic at all. I think we are positioned well and let's hope we finish it off well.

Andy K

Did you not post this same worry of yours yesterday?

He posts it on a daily basis to ease his "worry" Sean Ireland LOL.

The real AG

Real Ag, do you think he could be like that Adam Sandler movie 50 first dates where he wakes up every morning thinking it's the same day?

Every time I see these owners showing no ambition I'm worried about money there are plenty who reason out that the owners have been very good and we spend loads. Never have I seen someone put a decent argument on how they are not spending any money they just stop replying. Stop replying and start a new thread tomo, boring!

31 Jul 2013 10:07:54
Would love to see Agger and Skrtel and CB and then Papa at CDM as he can play there, would love your thoughts
PunjabiBoy

Got to disagree there mate.
Skrtle looks gone.
I would have agger and toure this year with Lucas as DM. If we bring in papa he would quite likely be third choice CB to begin with until his injury can be properly accesesed and the management has full confidence in his body and abilty for that matter.

MIKEY

Papadopoulos would be bought as a CD and skrtel would then be surplus to requirements.

Whilst skrtel is a competent CD he is prone to big errors & his distribution is questionable, losing his place to carra last term ultimately sealed his fate.

Jimbob

Agree with what Mikey has said!

Mikey, if as you suggesting the management won't have full confidence in his fitness or ability, why would they buy him? Papa won't come cheap
Roy

I also agree with Mikey and would add that he would then take over from either of the two CBs as Agger also needs to be kept on his toes after a sloppy enough season by his own high standards too.

Also sell Coates then for no other replacement as we would have enough.

He's been injured for a while, they might buy him but not make him first choice so he's thrown into the deep end and risking another injury. The same reason we don't/shouldn't throw players straight back into the team after a long lay off. Doubled with the fact papa has never played for us or in our league then yes I do think he will be 3rd choice until the management decide he is ready. I'm not saying he will not get a game for a year, he will probably be rotated as and when he's needed but I would say 3rd choice untill he proves himself.

MIKEY

31 Jul 2013 10:03:23
I've used the search function but cannot find what I'm after. Am I right in thinking that Reina was loaned out for a season because Barca aren't ready for him yet due to Valdes staying one more year so therefore making an offer for Reina next year? {Ed002's Note - No.}

31 Jul 2013 09:55:31
Whats happened to this site lately? Have F$G upped there propaganda payments to the creators of this site? Is it purely pro F$G and everything is rosey at Liverpool posts that make it onto this site now is it? Shameful.

Waro {Ed002's Note - It is not the creators of the site taht

Waro you talk rubbish. Why is everything a conspiracy?

Your posts continue to get posted waro so it's not all rosy.

MIKEY

Waro,
Make sure you curb your language!

First, submit all your posts to the Central Scrutinizer for approval.

You must get used to the new system. US style management.

No more bad language, meat pies and beer.

Now it is cucumber sandwiches, tea and polite conversation.

The Vicar.

I was thnkin the same thing ed, afterall it is you guys that filter what cums thru isn't it? Maybe in your quest to reign in abuse you are turning the site into a pro-fsg fest lol

31 Jul 2013 12:18:41
Verified as the real waro, eds?

It ain't really fair to break it to you like this but, waro: FSG just bought the Internet. Yes. All of it.

The pro-FSG posts are nothing new, Waro. Paranoid conspiracy theorists are by nature always in the minority. Personally, I like the 'innocent until proven guilty' approach with our owners and they've yet to do much wrong.

cozinoz

I am starting to notice a trend in your post waro. you obviously don't believe in being optomistic. doomsday merchant

May I make a suggestion, Waro? Go out, start a business, make a few billion, and buy the club yourself. Then you can dump all the money you earned into the club you want.

Do you think calling them 'F$G' and constantly giving them a metric s*&t ton of grief is going to make them want to spend more money on LFC?

31 Jul 2013 09:11:27
if Suarez goes to Spurs, who haven't got Champions league, I don't think that the red fans will forgive him. the reasons he was giving for leaving were English press and champ league.

Suarez is just guns for hire.

Ultimately he wants to be an even richer young man over this summer by protecting his "loyalty bonus", signing on fee at new club & no doubt a further pay rise, remembering he has a pay rise by signing a new contract last summer.

Unfortunately footballers like Suarez help to further detach footballers from fans.

Jimbob

31 Jul 2013 09:02:03
Ed. If people believe we need to replace arsenal from top 4, then they are wrong, Spurs would replace arsenal from top 4, no doubt.
we should look to replcae UTD from top 4.
I mean Daniel Levy is a genius, he would get 100 mill for bale or probably 60 mill + coentrao + di maria, plus already added soldado and paulinho.
they are then already in top 4, better than city and Cheslea.
If the above happens and Bale leaves and Levy pump 60 mill back into the team, then they would be competing for the title.
they have a prety decent squad and with soldado and paulinho, they have done well.

we should replace UTD, because I believe they are the weak link in top4, currently, Probably that means Both Arsenal and UTD would drop out from top 4.

Ed, you honeslty believe Spurs won't get into TOP 4? {Ed023's Note - Once we get there I couldn't care who the other 3 teams are. I agree Levy is a top chairman and isn't bullied by anyone}

If you think Utd are going to drop out of the top 4 then you are deluded Harry. Levy might be a top Chairman but Utd are a top team and club from top to bottom. Moyes might take a bit of time getting used to things but a disaster for Utd is finishing 2nd or 3rd in the league.

The Irish Rover

Levy is the best in the business. He's got something Liverpool have lacked for 20 years, and that's balls

Without Bale the are not contenders.

Harry you're having a bubble! Credit where it's due, utd are champions for a reason. Maybe it was just fergie, but they will still be up there. Don't be a muppet, arsenal are the ones we could catch

LOL.

Disney!

Spurs will certainly be a more rounded side when they sell Bale. Arsenal know it hence the bids for Suarez and Higuain. I'm not sure if Arsenal will end up with two marquee signings like the fans want, but if they do it makes life much more difficult for Liverpool. Even if MU do not add anyone to the squad we are still light-years ahead of Liverpool. But we will strengthen of course. Chelsea, City, Spurs & Arsenal getting stronger with Liverpool getting weaker is not helping your cause. Without CL football Liverpool will struggle to attract the top players and without top players you will not get CL football. It's a catch 22 and for those reasons I cannot see Liverpool getting a top four spot for many years. The FFPR will not help you either, Liverpool are running at a loss and could be in danger of breaking the rules if the owners do not curb their spending. But I guess while you are not in Europe it's kind of irrelevant.

I would also keep an eye on the likes of WHU, Swansea, Newcastle, WBA & Everton next season. I see them running you very close for 6th place. Liverpool could finish anything from 6th-11th IMO.

Disney!

31 Jul 2013 12:21:53
If then the CL places has to be increased from 4th to 6th.
Arsenal would anyway drop out. Spurs with the sale of Bale and probably 85 mill coming in can challenge the title, with already having a decnet squad.
City and chelsea are up there already.
so whose left out?. UTD, they haven't bought anyone, and everyone in the planet knows how they became champion last year.
If we are in top 4 next seaosn, it would be at the expense of Man UTD

31 Jul 2013 12:25:35
Disney,

By the time Moyes finds his feet, it would be christmass and there would be a huge battle for the 4th spot between us and UTD.
You won't beat chelse, or city, and If Levy and AVB pulls out something wonderful Spurs would be right up there, let's not forget, they already got soldado and Paulinho, with around 80 mill to come in, which you can get 4 world class players from any league.
or probably 60mill + dimaria + coentrao, would also be deadly.

UTD will struggle to cope up with the style Moyes wants to play and It would be a straight battle between Us and UTD.

Arsenal would drop out anyways

Far be it from me to agree with Harry BUT in part I do think united COULD find things very difficult this season without Fergie, let's face it, their squad is nowhere near as good as last years table suggested and Arsenal may end up with a very strong squad if Wenger actually spends some money.
I think it is folly to make any suggestions or even analysis until all the transfer dealings are concluded

Disney lad, in life nothing lasts forever. You maybe haven't seen any lean years at Man Utd.
I've seen you relegated, OT half empty.
Without Ferguson, let's see you you get on. There is no way Moyes will go for it the same way as Fergie always did, the attacking subs and that.
Rein your neck in lad, because you're going to have your own worries.
All your commercial contracts are based on the on-field success. There's no way that will be sustained to the same level.
What goes around.
The Juicer

Disney we are not getting weaker at all. How do you explain us being 3rd/4th last season after the January signings. Basically when the manager had implemented his style and we signed two quality players. You think we will drop that much purely because of the fact we will lose suarez? Can't wait till next season If we even miss 4th by a few points your the first person that will be mugged off.

London red

Harry, MU will finish at least 30 points ahead of Liverpool. I think the gap will be wider personally.

Juicer, MU will be bringing in £500m by 2016. Only Real Madrid & Barcelona will be able to equal or better that amount.

When you have money, you will always be able to challenge. Sadly for Liverpool without your owners you do not have a pot to p1ss in.

Disney!

London, you will lose Suarez, Carragher, Reina & Skrtel who are all senior characters in the dressing room. Gerrard is another year older (surely cannot go another entire season uninjured). You are selling your best player who got you 30 goals last season. You have bought Alberto to replace Shelvey who many liked on this page. Aspas to replace Suarez and Mignolet and Toure to replace Reina and Carragher respectively. If you cannot see you are weaker this season then you need help. Can Sturridge stay fit for more than five minutes? Even then he's hit and miss. Coutinho looks a decent player especially against a Thai defence, but teams know how to keep him out of the game, just apply a bit of pressure on him and he goes missing. Suarez was the only reason you finished sixth last season, you will finish lower than that next season. As it stands with the assumption that Suarez will leave Liverpool are weaker than last season. You are missing an awful lot of big characters from your dressing room and BR doesn't really install confidence now does he?

Disney!

31 Jul 2013 13:58:38
Dinsey,

By 2016, you would be loosing 40-50 mill in CL revenue, since you won't be participating.
110% guaranteed, you would not be in Top4.
a one seasn wonder carrrick with injury prone RVP, added to the speculation of Ronney"s departure.
You guys have long long summer waiting.

The day Ferguson left was the day that things changed at united.
The owners let things go and let Fergie have total control but now they are going to want to start implementing their own plans and their own way of running the club.
Moyes may do ok but there's as much chance that he'll be a disaster, I may even have a little flutter that Fergie will be back in charge by Christmas

Disney, you've lost more than just Fergie. United will suffer a bit without the likes of Meulensteen and that was a very big mistake by Moyes I feel.

That said, you've got big revenues coming in, certainly much larger than us, and a much larger wage bill so it would be pretty sad if you weren't to finish above us. Still looking forward to pulling 6 points from you this year though.

Am I the only one who finds all this hilarious?!

The real AG

31 Jul 2013 08:45:08
Ed, Great work. and very sweet mng to you.
Respect.

5 Alternatives If suarez leaves us.

1. Muriel
Actually he is ma fav player, whom I would love to see in Liverpool. young 22, well built and an excelent exiciting prospect, 15 mill would do the business, eventhough it would be pretty difficult for WP, But If we place a serious interest, It would be sorted. Excellent pace, good finishing abilities and has got a great dribbling skills.

2. Lamela
He would be off everyones choice, the argentine striker, is a speed machine, faster than Lenon, he would be an ideal player on any falnks, can beat a man, has got a great technical abilites.20 mill would be enough to tempt Roma.

3. Turan
Most realistic option among all, great technical abilites, and could fill inot no of positions. can play as an ACM or LW, But I highly doubt his pace,
again 20 mill would do the business.

4. Honda

I would have bought him regardless of Suarez sale instead of Luis alberto, If honda/countinho fight for the ACM, that would be an excellent option for Liverpool, at the same price as Alberto, I wonder why never singed him, he is proven and has a cracking left foot, dead ball specialist, could play anywhere in front three.

5. Diamio

this one slightly differnt from all the above, He is typical CF who would get us some goals, can play in front three, well built and would suit the physicallity of EPL, 17-18 mill would be enough to prize him away.

6. Suarez Stays

Could be really interesting, He would just carry on where he left, would bang in up right and center.
we struggled on the left flank last seaosn.
with Asaps and suarez on flanks and countinho in the middle with sturridge ti finish off, we would beat any top top team in EPL.

If we pull up 2 out of possible 5 mentioned to replace, then we have done a pretty good job. I am well aware these are Unrealistic, But we never expected Luis suarez would fetch us somehwere close to 50 mill, If it happens, then let's make this Realistic.

Expecting replies

My Choice of the 5 you have selected would be Muriel & Lamela, why = purely because they can both cover the front 3 positions, are young, very good and were building for the future and also with those on the wings and Coutinho in the middle behind Sturridge I feel we would actually be better off than if we kept Suarez, on the other hand if Suarez were to stay than I feel we should play him wide right Coutinho wide left and bring in Eriksen as the AM.

Harry we ain't signing any of the players u have stated there so don't beef when we don't get any of em yo.

N how the hell do u know how much will be enough to prize a player away? Do u run all the clubs? Some poo poo flows from peoples mouths on here. We will sign a few more players so chill. Still plenty of time left.

Shabba

I do not believe it will be any of the above. Praet maybe? I haven't seen a whole game but as little as you can take from a Youtube clip, Konoplyanka looks like the type we are looking for. I do not believe however it will be any you have suggested. Not having a go. Just saying.

Andy K

Yeah muriel and lamela for me, quality, young and adaptable. Both very similar to suarez too.

Anonymous woolback

31 Jul 2013 07:30:12
Just seen the headlines that Chelsea mite move for Suarez?
Fingers crossed arensal have dropped out the race now the ask price is 50-55m, I'd be happy to see him stay I think the press are winding the whole thing up but I would like to say to Suarez if your really that unhappy hand in a transfer request!

Gary

31 Jul 2013 08:01:41
Cheslea won't come in for him. that's guaranteed.
Its either Arsneal or Madrid, If they fail in Bale

I have a feelng that this Suarez thing will go on until the transfer deadline day. There must be many top clubs quietly observing this situation as we are talking about one of the best players in the world. If this is the case, I hope we're not drawn in to another Carrol situation and end up paying over the odds for a quick replacement.

31 Jul 2013 10:48:23
Dont think so.
BR would have already identified the replacement by now, am just worried it would be a perfect replacement or yet another gamble like countinho.

Every signing is a gamble Harry.

Harry, you are worried that the replacement might be another gamble like couthino? firstly, I would be delighted if the our "gamble" worked out like couts has. secondly, there is no such thing as safe bet when signing a player. we could quite feasibly splurge 20-30mil on a marquee signing who bombs. imagine if we had "gambled" on benteke last season for 7mil

31 Jul 2013 14:00:20
Yeahh.
we should be careful. but that's what the scouts are paid for. they are meant ot bring in the best.
8 out of 10, they should succeed.

31 Jul 2013 07:02:07
What happened to all the interest in the Brazilian defender Dede? I remember him being linked with Liverpool also. {Ed002's Note - Search engine lease.}

He's gone to Cruzeiro.

He moved to cruizeo in brazil
PunjabiBoy

Arrrrgh another one that we have missed out on! FSG out! Sack Rodgers!

31 Jul 2013 06:51:22
Just read an article which suggests the top brass at Liverpool (can we still say that lol) feel that Arsenal have rubbed Liverpools noses in the Suarez saga with their bid of £1 over the £4m.

Great, when we beat em for CL football next year we can offer stupid offers for their top stars

RedLee

31 Jul 2013 05:29:59
Hey guys, are being as useless and bored as ever speculating that we have reached a 150,000 a week deal with Fernando Torres and his agents? if this is true, what do you guys think of Torres coming back? Thanks

Why pay him more wages than any other Lfc player when he would be our fourth best striker?

It's not true. I'm a big fan of his and I want him to do well (except against us of course!) but I don't even want him back, I imagine almost nobody does.

Why would he take a pay cut?

Ciario80

What do fans who actually go the match think of this?

31 Jul 2013 00:18:51
Hi Eds, few rumours knocking round that Suarez has dropped plans to ask for PL Intervention pursuit of arbitration to leave Liverpool. Is there any truth in this? I know he is going to leave but if true, I just find it abit weird. Can you shed any light on this?
Icered {Ed002's Note - There was a lot of misreporting of the matter.}

You need to go watch 'The Shipping News', where there is a superb summary of journalism. Journalist points out to sea and says 'what's that?' Guy says 'some clouds', journalist says 'no, DEADLY STORM THREATENS TOWN'. 'But what if there isn't a storm?' 'MIRACLE SAVES TOWN FROM DEADLY STORM'. Says it all really.

30 Jul 2013 23:59:33
Liverpool have released a list of "unacceptable" words and phrases that they have given to all members of staff in an attempt to combat all forms of discrimination at Anfield.

Even when United come to town? - C'mon now, they're only human.

So THAT'S why suarez is so keen to leave!

Marshy

They had to wait for Fergie to retire before they could give it a go. I'd love to know what's on the list - no chance of printing it but bet it's amusing.
Nan's Scarf

Great so when we go to matches we have to put up with some nazi telling us what we can and can't say!?

May as well just put duct tape over our mouths at the gate.

Yahpoo are reporting that "play like a girl" is just one of the phases that are on the "black" list. Pathetic.

Jonny Spandex {Ed002's Note - If you want to use the term "play like a girl", it is perfectly allowable at the women's games.}