Liverpool Banter Archive January 31 2018

 

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31 Jan 2018 23:05:36
Question for he Ed’s probably been asked a million times but what is your connection to football. I see you knownquite abit about who does what and what responsibilities managers have v owners etc which must differ club to club. just intrigued where the knowledge or info comes from. Cheers great site.

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{Ed002's Note - To the best of my knowledge the other Eds are florists or chimney sweps. Ed007 makes a living out of selling large quantities of foot hair. After that I am pretty much stumped.}

31 Jan 2018 23:20:25
Shot down 😂.


{Ed002's Note - "sweeps" not "sweps". Sweps as you know are something entirely different. And largely unrelated to foot hair.}

31 Jan 2018 23:06:45
Seems a shame if that Demirbay link was nonsense can't believe we've not replaced Coutinho as well!

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31 Jan 2018 22:51:37
Hi edo1 Wilson signed new contract has klopp changed his mind on him or is it to protect a few for him?

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{Ed001's Note - it was always up to Wilson to prove he deserved a contract and he has done. It is up to him to do enough on loan to get in the team when he returns or he will only have one to protect his value.}

31 Jan 2018 22:31:20
I'm probably going to get shot down here, but does it always feel like we're one good player away? The season we came second to United, if we had a half decent sub striker - Torres injured and we ngog. The season we came second to city, our bench was normally aspas, Moses and Allen- one quality signing would have at least been an option. Now we are not going to win the league, nor are we one sighing away from the perfect squad, I just can't help feel we will miss the creativity from midfield coutinho gave us.

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31 Jan 2018 22:57:04
What frustrates me is when we sign a player that has gone on to do well for the club i. e score goals and one leaves in the same window. The Torres/ Suarez partnership springs to mind.
We don’t know how VVD will turn out but if he does the business then it will frustrate me that coutinho didn’t stay with Keita and potentially Lemar in the summer too. Throw Allison in to the mix as well and that would have been one of the strongest Liverpool sides we’ve seen in recent years.
All if ands and buts of course but it’s nice to dream. perhaps we will get a more creative midfielder that can control the tempo and we will be more balanced than I’d we had coutinho next season. food for thought.


31 Jan 2018 23:19:08
Man play football manager like me and make your dreams a reality :D.


01 Feb 2018 00:32:49
nah that probably about right. But the difference this time is we have far more depth compared to previous times. coutinho goes and we're not as at a loss from his production.


01 Feb 2018 06:55:44
It's frustrating when we're forever rebuilding. Come the start of next season one or more of our front three will likely want out again. So we'll get Keita and maybe Lemar (or similar) joining and losing Firmino, Salah or Mane.

The new players take a season or two to bed in, show their worth and move on. And the vicious cycle continues. It will just be nice to have at least one full season of stability with top players in most positions.

It's understandable that players want to move on, but the dream is stability to properly challenge for the league and trophies.


01 Feb 2018 09:05:18
What are we rebuilding? Coutinho is no, was not and was never going to be the center piece of our attack. This 're-building' concept is over, we're not re-anything. We're just building.

Unlike in the past where in one team there were 4 or 5 players the system relied on and any one of them leaving meant starting to rebuild the entire squad, we now have an actual, functioning team. The only player we would absolutely need to directly replace if they left is Firmino, our attack won't work without someone with that level of energy focusing on creating space. Everything else is just building - Coutinho has gone, tactics carry on just how they did before.


31 Jan 2018 22:22:19
Ed 001 you able to give us any details of how this came about? It seems so out of the blue did we only approach Hoffenheim today?

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{Ed001's Note - Klopp decided we needed to move forward our attempts to sign a midfielder, as the midfield has been struggling. He doesn't feel Keita will be enough to make the difference on his own, so we had a little dabble for one. Looks like we just left it too late.}

31 Jan 2018 22:48:34
As per usual anyways should have enough if the front three and henderson stay fit.


31 Jan 2018 22:52:39
It was obvious last week that we needed to sign another midfielder. Why did he suddenly decide that? I love klopp and everything he's done for us, but some of his decisions are seriously questionable.


{Ed001's Note - performances have proved the need, plus we were busy with other players that the club tried to sign.}

31 Jan 2018 22:59:31
As per usual then! When will we learn we need to have more than 1 target!


31 Jan 2018 23:35:56
Sounds a mess, to leave efforts to sign a player too late, because of other targets we couldn't sign anyway?


31 Jan 2018 23:45:49
As I thought, nothing.

That will be how we are at season end : Nothing.


01 Feb 2018 01:48:08
Really that's interesting ed001 .

as I suggested would we possibly look to rush one through late a few days ago and was massively shot down by ed002 why would we do this and sign a player he doesn't want etc etc . and I'm sure there was something along the lines of I don't grasp it and never will . you be made my misery of no signings a little less knowing I can grasp it 😂😉.


{Ed001's Note - I worded that badly after a long day. I should have said that it was a player Klopp is interested in that became available so he decided to see if a deal could be done earlier than intended. More like Wijnaldum than a panic deal, a player Klopp wants becomes an unexpected option. He was not 'rushing it through' or it would have been done, there was plenty of time to make it happen.}

01 Feb 2018 06:44:35
Morning ed. Did we plan a Summer bid for him mate? Just with you saying "earlier than intended" .


{Ed001's Note - he was one of the possibilities for strengthening midfield in the summer yes.}

01 Feb 2018 13:46:19
Ed001 it's ok pal. Knew what you was meaning, I just couldn't resist the opportunity to try and have a little fun at the expense of ed002 that's all. we all know how brutal said ed can be at times. No harm intended of course

Big up to all you eds on here I know it doesn't seem like it at times but the work you put in is really apprieated by us fans. even you ed002 😗.


31 Jan 2018 22:26:05
Huge game against Tottenham next, 2nd to 5th is tight, don't want to be dropping down to 5th.

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31 Jan 2018 22:05:09
Hi eds,

seeming that we won't be signing anyone tonight, could you clarify I few things for me.
1- Do the owners expect klopp to end every transfer window with profit from player sales?
2- Why didn't we re-invest the money?

Also I would love to know your opinions on the owners, do you think they lack ambition?

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{Ed001's Note - of course they don't. Re-invest what money? We didn't get £140m cash handed over in duffel bags to spend. Klopp makes the final decision on all transfers, the owners are fully behind him and what he chooses to do.}

31 Jan 2018 22:27:44
In your opinion ed do u think this is a gamble for top 4 ambitions not making the squad stronger, we are relying on front 3 too stay fit an in form, as we have seen mane looks of the pace lately, if any of the above happens we are relying on solanke who is raw, an Danny ings who is coming back of 2 years injury hell, then there is woodburn I have faith in but he again is totally raw at the required level . I jus can't get my head around the club not wanting too strengthen, do u agree or do u have faith in this squad too carry us through.


{Ed001's Note - it is a gamble when you buy players as well. There is enough there to get us top 4.}

31 Jan 2018 22:27:50
But we will still receive that money in instalments, just because we haven't got it all up front, what was stopping us doing similar and getting a replacement for coutinho? We will not see that money! Fsg play a blinder again! 💲💲💲.


{Ed001's Note - why do people continue to blame FSG? Klopp is the one making the decisions on transfers.}

31 Jan 2018 22:34:08
FSG were happy to have spent big in the summer on both. Keita and van Dijk whilst keeping Pipco. So I think that answers that one.


31 Jan 2018 22:34:13
It’s not just a case of spending the money. If that was the issue we could have bid £140m for VVD.
Bringing in new players is a delicate process. If players think there will be a huge player turnover twice a season they will instantly feel unsettled. Sometimes a player’s personality just doesn’t fit with the team.

In the past our “near deadline” signings have included Andy Carroll and Mario Balotelli. 2 players who had a lot of issues to say the least.
Signing a player requires a lot of preparation and hard work. Rushing the process at the last minute is not a good recipe for success.
Sure we all expected PipCo to go but that doesn’t mean the right player with the right mentality will be available. Maybe the right player got injured?

There is no FSG mystery underhand plan. We just didn’t have the opportunity to get the right player in.


31 Jan 2018 22:37:48
So klopp's whole motto is not to panic buy? He must have serious confidence in his players, because majority of the fans believe we need reinforcements. Excited but terrified to see how this season plays out.


31 Jan 2018 22:51:19
Well said Ed1 mate.


01 Feb 2018 00:36:09
I'm backing Klopp's trust in his players. Ox and salah came in. to me they more than make up for losing coutinho. especially as all the facts this season showed that we haven't missed coutinho at all. People missing that we much better depth this season compared to other seasons when we'd lose torres, suarez etc. I mean a season or so ago our bench was full of kids. now we can rotate between seasoned pros. it's good stuff and more to add in the summer.

our useless squad is now 3rd in the table. so looking forward to them continuing to rise up to the challenge rest of the way. back to back top 4 is no mean feat, especially for us as we've not been in the CLs back to back seasons since whenever it was.


01 Feb 2018 03:12:31
Not missed coutinho? Sure could have done with his key for the west brom and Swansea games.


01 Feb 2018 10:06:21
Yeah cause things like that never happened before Coutinho left. Don't put him on a pedestal.


02 Feb 2018 00:37:40
I would have thought the stupidity of panic buys had been very well demonstrated over the years. There seem to be some people who want a “name” signed. We have unearthed fabulous players by being careful and buying the right players at the right time. Sure not every one works out but we do ok.

You appoint a good manager and then you let him get on with it. Klopp is totally right not to panic buy. The one thing I personally would like him to do is sort out Can to sign that contract. He’s not perfect but he’s bloody good. Get behind the manager on transfers.


31 Jan 2018 21:47:27
Did it happen Ed1?

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{Ed001's Note - you will have to narrow 'it' down a bit for me.}

31 Jan 2018 21:54:54
Demirbay, I can't watch because I think that's bad luck.


{Ed001's Note - no mate, I don't believe it has.}

31 Jan 2018 21:56:35
You think we done with incomings eds? think that is what he's hinting at.


{Ed001's Note - yes I do mate.}

31 Jan 2018 21:58:26
demirbay i should imagine.


31 Jan 2018 21:59:11
Demirbay

The man we never heard of.


31 Jan 2018 22:04:53
Nevermind thanks for update Ed. Great work by all the eds this window. Appreciate your work. One to the next game.


{Ed001's Note - thanks mate, still a good night for LFC even without signings.}

31 Jan 2018 22:05:27
100% ed, or still possible mate? Take it they don't want to sell?


{Ed001's Note - they were happy to move him on.}

31 Jan 2018 22:10:21
Almost 4 AM in india, office at 9 Am, deadline day got to me i guess.


31 Jan 2018 22:21:11
Ok ed. Figures involved then I guess. Bit gutted mate tbh after raised hope. Should I call it a night🤔.


{Ed001's Note - the figures might not have been those of his team that were too much mate. It is not always about fees, wages are very often the main cause of deals not happening.}

31 Jan 2018 22:32:52
If we get an offer sheet in by 11 we get until 1am to complete the deal apparently so don't give up hope reds. ynwa.


31 Jan 2018 22:33:38
I’m still hoping we’ll get it done, his agents were in England today.


31 Jan 2018 22:38:11
Ok mate fair enough. Thank you for all your work and info ed. Appreciate it. Off to my pit mate. GN.


{Ed001's Note - night mate.}

31 Jan 2018 21:38:25
Hi Eds

What are your views concerning the current set piece takers. I for one have been impressed by the quality of set piece deliveries by the Ox.

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{Ed001's Note - the most impressive was TAA.}

31 Jan 2018 21:59:32
Spot on, Ed. Ox is not bad, either as Redpanda said.


31 Jan 2018 22:29:32
Ox is terrible! What are you guys watching?


31 Jan 2018 21:31:22
Fellani 8 minute subbed off after being subbed on - never seen that before - mourinhos people management skills shining through?!

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{Ed001's Note - injury.}

31 Jan 2018 21:38:56
You might be right Ed1 but I didn’t see any Physio or back toom staff go down tunnel with him which is unusual?


{Ed001's Note - no idea, was too busy editing to watch that sorry. Only saw him indicating he needed to come off.}

31 Jan 2018 21:47:27
Ah you are more eagled eyed than me then Ed as did not see that 👍.


{Ed001's Note - I think he had a broken hairdo or something.}

31 Jan 2018 21:48:06
Commentators said injury as well.


31 Jan 2018 21:52:28
Haha very good ed! At least I noticed him
- more than can be said for £90m pogba, £75m lukakwho and half a million per week sanchez 😂.


31 Jan 2018 21:58:46
Must say I look at Spurs enviously, would happily take lloris, alderwereild, vertonghen and Sanchez are better than matip, rose, Dembele, winks, wanyama, alli, son and obviously eriksen and Kane - if they added 3/ 4 more player they would be a real force.


31 Jan 2018 22:00:31
I think he was injured which upset Jose Pulis as he wanted to put Rashford on and could not.


31 Jan 2018 22:44:05
his hair band snapped, also heard that maureeno has ordered another bus, his present one is looking a bit battered .


31 Jan 2018 21:28:00
Spurs moving the ball really quickly, their midfield look impressive we’ll need to be really on our game at the weekend to get the result.

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31 Jan 2018 21:37:14
Yeah they have looked good tonight. Think Utd helped them abit though too. Not seen Utd this bad for a while no closing down or anything.

Just shows LFC will have to be on there very best all season though with Spurs looking solid,


31 Jan 2018 21:38:41
Well we know how to nullify that now don't we - play it over and around their midfield to the wings.

Hopefully the crowd in the stadium will be right up for it, that'll give the players a right old boost and we'll go directly for their weak spot, which for me is their left back - coincidentally our strongest player should be directly up against him.

C'mon the reds!


31 Jan 2018 21:51:57
Well, with any luck Can and Gini will continue to cement their status as glory hunters who only bother to turn up against big teams and put in the same level of effort as they did against Man City, and then subsequently didn't against Swansea and West Brom.

They'll certainly need to, anyway.


31 Jan 2018 22:05:55
There's a reason Jose Pulis parks the bus away from home vs the top teams. His team simply cannot match them when he let's Utd play open football. THEY SIMPLY CAN'T.

Utd were garbage all day long just like we were vs Spurs which made Spurs' job way easier for them. Their midfield lacked pace, energy and bite and could not play out of Spurs' press esp. when you have Pogba and Lingard going AWOL and leaving Matic on his own vs the ravaging Spurs midfielders.

We have the energy to match Spurs in this dept. esp. after the City game where we smothered them and vs Spurs at home LAST season where we smothered them as well. IF we bring it the same way we brought it vs City with Ox, Hendo and Can at their best, we will be right in there.


31 Jan 2018 22:48:40
cant believe that they are giving maureeno another contract, they just can't beat the better teams, talking about being defensive, this man is good at that, but they are not even the best team im Manchester .


31 Jan 2018 22:56:46
Spot on BRover, 3 best teams are City, us and Spurs.


31 Jan 2018 21:26:02
Will someone tell me to stop laughing 😅😅😅.
Chelsea 0 v Bournemouth 3.

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31 Jan 2018 21:28:10
Chelsea will panick and sack conte.


31 Jan 2018 21:28:52
Could this be the end of Conte?

Would cost them money but hasn't stopped them in the past.


31 Jan 2018 21:30:02
U wanna laugh buds just pop on over to the Utd and Chelsea live chat 🤣.


31 Jan 2018 21:45:36
When Barkley joined Chelsea from Everton that was the beginning of the end, he is so bad I know it's early days but I jus don't see why they signed him.


31 Jan 2018 21:52:32
Probably the same as ours last Saturday night. Everyone is 1 or 2 defeats from a crisis these days it seems.


31 Jan 2018 21:54:11
Conte is leaving at the end of the season anyway.


31 Jan 2018 22:08:29
It looks like Chelsea have been taking panic buying lessons from BR's time at LFC with their peeing in the wind transfer strategy of late. Conte? He's history and sadly, things will only get worse for him and for Chelsea.


31 Jan 2018 22:13:36
Just popped over to the man utd page for the first time ever. Makes this page look like the mensa society.


01 Feb 2018 02:09:52
Laughed out loud at that one rollan.


31 Jan 2018 21:15:12
When are united going to bring on the £90m pogba, £75m lukakwho and £1/ 2m per week super star sanchez? 😂😂😂.

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31 Jan 2018 21:14:33
Despite all the doom and gloom recently, we are on course to go 3rd tonight and only 3 points away from 2nd.

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31 Jan 2018 22:09:49
Conte is on the brink and Arsenal are pants BUT hey, let's lose our heads after losing two games in 21.


31 Jan 2018 21:11:05
I LOVE BOURNEMOUTH! 3 up at Stamford BRidge.

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31 Jan 2018 21:18:07
Spuds are doing us a solid as well. Hopefully the don’t continue the win streak at the weekend.


31 Jan 2018 21:18:13
Ha ha perfect. And the Mancs getting beat, those LFC manc supporters yesterday hang your head in shame.


31 Jan 2018 21:23:40
manc supporters? I would have been far happier with a gap widening between us and spurs / arsenal. happy with being in the hunt to chase down manU too tho.


31 Jan 2018 22:01:45
I never want the Mancs to win, EVER.


31 Jan 2018 22:06:23
I think a draw for United and Spurs would of been the perfect result for us but can’t really complain. Results have been kind to us.


31 Jan 2018 22:12:17
This is why Pulis with money, parks the bus vs top teams away from home. His team is incapable of playing open football due to their slow, boring build up and inability to match the intensity of these teams on their patch. Utd should have parked the bus and just maybe, they could have gotten a point. They tried to match Spurs and got battered, bruised and beat down. Could not have happened to a nicer club.


31 Jan 2018 22:23:01
Never wanna see mancs take a single point!


31 Jan 2018 21:10:45
So not to put a hex on it, but Chelsea are 3 nil down now.

Not to put any hex on it though :)

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31 Jan 2018 21:07:07
Chelsea getting beaten united losing. really tightens the top 4 spots right up.

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31 Jan 2018 22:13:53
With us winning, we have managed to suck everyone above us bar City, into the top 4 fight and right now, it will be do or die, down to the wire stuff. You got to be in it to win it and we are SMACK in it by going 3rd tonight.


31 Jan 2018 21:06:48
Make that; Chelsea are now 2 down, not to put a hex on it though :)

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31 Jan 2018 21:05:44
So not to put a hex on it, but currently we're 3rd, Chelsea are one down, I'll take it.

I did say "not to put a hex on it" and because I said that, you cannot blame me if Chelsea come back and draw/ win.

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31 Jan 2018 21:10:33
Chelsea 3 down, wow.


31 Jan 2018 21:10:38
Make that 0-3!


31 Jan 2018 20:31:25
De Gea beaten at the near post! If it was our goalie he'd be crucified 👍.

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31 Jan 2018 20:39:37
You are totally right jj mate but in all honesty De Gea is better than both our keepers put together at the minute.


31 Jan 2018 20:40:57
Great finish though!


31 Jan 2018 20:47:59
Except for every mistake he then pulls off about 30 top class saves. Our keepers are vice Versa. 1 save to every 30 mistakes.


31 Jan 2018 21:02:08
I wouldn’t expect De Gea to save that, he probably thinks jones will put it in row Z instead of top bins.


31 Jan 2018 21:02:21
Except he wouldn’t have been expecting jones to score an own goal, we but different than if it had been a spurs player who was in Jones position, don’t think you can really criticise De Gea for that one.


31 Jan 2018 21:07:42
I take it that’s a joke?


31 Jan 2018 21:16:53
Thank you cobra - clearly tongue in cheek 😂.


31 Jan 2018 22:16:04
Sarcasm, I hope?


31 Jan 2018 20:23:28
Shout out to the eds, thanks for all your hard work guys, this month has been pretty mental and today must've been far too busy for you all so a huge thank you for all of your dedicated hard work. It's very much appreciated.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. Only a few months until the window re-opens...}

31 Jan 2018 20:30:57
Here here!
Sterling job done editing the rubbish posts on here (99.9% of it being mine) .

But will we sign Konchesky though?
I think he'll be a good backup option to the lady (or gent - ya got to be careful these days) who irons our team kits.


{Ed001's Note - you are being harsh on yourself mate, it is probably only 95% yours.}

31 Jan 2018 20:32:02
Ah god help you, thanks again mate.


{Ed001's Note - I think he abandoned me a long time ago. Either that or Harry is a test of some kind....}

31 Jan 2018 20:42:12
Ah shucks, stop with the compliments please :)


{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, didn't mean to embarrass you, I know you are a bit shy.}

31 Jan 2018 20:42:23
Hahaha brilliant mate.


{Ed001's Note - thank you :-)

31 Jan 2018 20:05:52
Leipzig just signed Ademola Lookman on loan? Maybe an attacking player to help with them losing Keita today? ;)

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31 Jan 2018 20:14:52
Keita will be signed by 11pm!


31 Jan 2018 20:04:25
This is probably one of only two nights a year that only LFC fans will come to this site and not obsessed voyeurs from red Manc-land, so enjoy the peace until about midnight boys, enjoy! :)

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31 Jan 2018 19:57:22
Seen rumours going round about Torres returning to the north of England earlier, not to Liverpool though - to Newcastle.

Not in a million years did/ can I see that happening, but then again; Trump-Melania, never in a million years did I see that happening either lol!

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31 Jan 2018 20:17:50
Michael Owen part 2!?!?


31 Jan 2018 19:46:42
Bugger it why not, guess what fellas?

I just heard about Allison, Keita AND Lemar been seen about 20 minutes away from Melwood, my sources tell me they will be having a medical within the next hour or two and all been well will be confirmed by about half 10 tonight, make of this what you will.

You heard it here first ;) - lol have a good evening fellas!

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31 Jan 2018 19:59:45
More chance of us winning the league this year 😂.


31 Jan 2018 20:14:46
Wasn't there a 24-year old Steven Gerrard travelling with that bunch as well? I mean if we are dreaming it might as well be really big.


31 Jan 2018 19:42:10
RB Leipzig have signed Lookman on loan from Everton. Different position to Nobby Kets but maybbbeee backup/ replacement.

Maybbbeee.

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31 Jan 2018 19:38:12
Any chance of a cheeky last minute bud for Mahrez now he's handed in a transfer request?

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31 Jan 2018 19:54:05
If City won't sign him as a back up for 60m then why should we?


31 Jan 2018 20:02:37
BRover city did want him for 65 mill and bid. Leicester wanted more.


31 Jan 2018 20:07:30
Not sure if he's allowed bud mate, it might be against his beliefs and he's a pro footballer in any case - we all know they don't drink :)


31 Jan 2018 22:19:25
You made my point for me. If they wanted him, they would pay the money or are they suddenly out of cash? They did not think he was worth it just like they thought Sanchez's money grabbing antics was not worth it. Mahrez is average, lazy and poor and NO team would touch him so again, why should we sign who other clubs don't think is worth the trouble?


31 Jan 2018 19:38:01
Wish Ovie Ejaria and Harry Wilson all the best on their respective loans to Sunderland and Hull.

Hope they tear it up and come back brimful of confidence.

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31 Jan 2018 19:37:02
RBL just signed Lookman on loan.

I'm pretty sure I'm putting 2 and 2 together and getting purple but could it be a case of 1 in 1 out for RBL tonight?

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31 Jan 2018 19:46:09
Could this be the player RBL were waiting for Ed001? Or is this completely unrelated?


{Ed001's Note - Lookman is a winger/striker mate.}

31 Jan 2018 19:48:53
Lookman is a winger, Keita a central midfielder.

Time to face facts now, Keita will join us in the summer. Great player but there are certain concerns about his temperament and the many instances of brash behaviour. If he can eliminate those then what a player we have on our hands.


31 Jan 2018 19:30:13
Whilst I rate firmino, and I do think he is probably our most influential player, I am starting to agree with the 'we need a striker' brigade. Firstly, if he has a rest, is solanke or Ings good enough yet?
Secondly, who says firmino can't play behind a clever attacker - not a benteke?
Thirdly, when we played Swansea, he spent a lot of time deep, and mane and Salah stayed wider - why can't he do that, with say hendo and can cm, and have a striker to play in behind? He can go forward, and stay forward if the other striker is clever enough to create space, and allow mane and salahs runs in behind.
Having three centre mids is too easy for a team like Swansea, we could be putting them under pressure, and playing two strikers.

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31 Jan 2018 20:01:56
Firmane, what top striker will you get who will come in and play second fiddle to Firmino who is a physical beast and Klopp won't drop? Also, it is unbelievable how many times this "drop Bobbie into midfield" crap has been explained over and over again YET people keep asking the same question like it is a scratched CD. If Klopp knew that Bobbie will be good in midfield. do you not think he would have played him there since last season?

Do you also, forget that Bobbie played the no. 10 role behind Studge, Benteke and Origi in 15/ 16 and if it had worked wonders, Klopp would have kept the same formation? It is cos it DOES NOT work as Bobbie does not have as much impact from midfield as he has obviously up top, which is why the change has been made and it is working for us as we have scored near 250 goals under Klopp since he arrived with 90% of them coming with Bobbie at CF. Give it a rest, please as this is settled debate.


31 Jan 2018 19:28:37
Good luck to Ejaria with the black cats and Wilson at Hull!

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31 Jan 2018 20:22:24
I personally don’t see why we can’t just wait a few months for a player who’s already due to be coming. I think the Keita hysteria is a bit over the top. I think he’s the sort of player who needs to learn he can’t always get his own way and can’t push his Club around. It’ll do the boy good to get his head down and wait.


31 Jan 2018 19:12:41
Am I the only one gutted we didn't even try to sign aubameyang he's a quality striker I think we really need an out and out striker I know we score plenty of goals anyway but witb Keita coming in the summer hopefully a top quality keeper as well with aubameyang up front I think we could have been seriously challenging for the title next season gutted we've not signed him.

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31 Jan 2018 19:18:45
I think last few seasons we have needed an out and out goalscorer but this season Firmino has added them to his game. People said Firmino was not an out and out goal scorer which was actually true. I believe he has scored more goals this season than any of his other seasons with us combined. That proves he has stepped up to the plate and we no longer require that striker.


31 Jan 2018 19:22:13
why would we try n sign him, Klopp and him don't get on.


31 Jan 2018 19:27:08
We don’t have a problem scoring goals and we certainly don’t need a massive ego and disruptive influence in the dressing room.


31 Jan 2018 19:29:52
Lets's just see how he does at Arsenal first before we start crying about it.
Loads were crying out for Lacazette too, that hasn't exactly worked out great for him or Arsenal YET.


31 Jan 2018 19:31:07
Our existing front three have 54 goals between them this season. We do not need to add another player with a questionable attitude for £40m. Squad depth is important, but you don't buy Aubameyang as squad depth. You buy him to play nearly every game and be the main man. Or else he'll sulk. And he won't be that here.

And please don't say "but Firmino could move to the #10 role! ", because if you do, you're demonstrating that you neither pay attention to our formation, or what Firmino does on the pitch.


31 Jan 2018 20:00:27
I'm not slating firmino read the post I think him and salah are our best 2 players by a country mile but if anyone of them gets injured where's the goals coming from and secondly most of the top teams have 2 or 3 strikers who've we got as back up ings and solanke REALLY?
point is we don't have a plan b when teams park the bus against us a top class striker is a plan b.


31 Jan 2018 20:05:42
OP, who do you think signed Auba at BVB? Klopp. Who do you think knows Auba more than any of us here? Klopp. Whpo do you think converted Auba to CF? Klopp. If Klopp is not signing him then don't you think Klopp knows a lot more about him than you nor I? Yeah, I'm not disappointed. I'm happy Arsenal panicked and bought him which relegates Lacazette to the bench. If you are that disappointed then you can always watch him at Arsenal.


31 Jan 2018 20:26:10
Yeah I'll sit there and watch him banging in the goals for them instead of us I'm sure klopp does know more about him than me or you but he's a top striker and would of improved us and gave us more attacking options if your happy for the club to stand still and not improve that's your problem not mine.


31 Jan 2018 18:50:29
As a Liverpool fan, sitting in hope by the television on transfer deadline day, it’s a bit like being in a bar and hoping that fit, leggy, brown haired goddess on her own by the bar is going to walk over and beg you to take her back to her flat.

It’s never going to happen. Well it happened once, but she turned out to be Andy Carroll.

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31 Jan 2018 18:57:22
She did not shave either.


31 Jan 2018 19:00:31
A leggy, brown goddess on her own in a bar eh! 🙄😂✌️
Move away from the she won't be there long mate 😂😂
Is this the Lpool page? 😂⚽️.


31 Jan 2018 19:30:41
Can't have been Andy Carroll mate, he was never fit! :)


31 Jan 2018 19:34:24
But Mane might have better luck with his great mate about to turn up early to the party?


31 Jan 2018 18:47:36
Next 5 days could prove to be a defining moment in our season. Best case we could be 8 points clear of Spurs with 12 games to go. Worst case we could be in 5th.

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31 Jan 2018 18:56:37
Were Spurs not ahead of us in the table earlier this season?

Let's just take it match by match. You can imagine what it feels like being an Arsenal supporter at this point. Ha ha.

When the season is done, we will know where we stand. Season is long from over.

We still have CL to look forward too ;-)


31 Jan 2018 18:58:46
Surely the best case scenario is that we are 2nd in 5 days time. There is too much emphasis on finishing 4th, let’s just try to finish as high as possible.


31 Jan 2018 19:01:59
Would prefer it if Spurs were 7 points behind us.


31 Jan 2018 19:03:53
Smeg head very good point. Being second would be best case scenario I stand corrected. Max our next fixture is in 5 days time so I am actually taking it 1 game at a time. Agree though season is long from over.


31 Jan 2018 19:06:03
If Chelsea lose by 2 goals tonight we actually go third without kicking a ball.


31 Jan 2018 19:21:13
Smeg, first time I think I’ve ever agreed with you, you’re right mate enough of this 4th place, let’s go after 2nd then we’ve had a very very good season.


31 Jan 2018 20:10:58
Jay, let's just stop with the "season defining 5 days/ game" stuff for now as it is first, not true and second, we can beat Spurs or Spurs can beat us or a draw and NOTHING would be sealed/ lost yet on either side. All we will win if we win like vs City, is 3 points, end of story. No statements of intent, no chest pumping, none of that. Just 3 points and on to the next game. That should be the attitude right now cos getting all hyped up after a win, loss or draw is why we read the pathetic, OTT posts we all read after "insert result here".


31 Jan 2018 20:57:51
We are above chelsea now.


31 Jan 2018 18:31:55
A great point made earlier today, if Utd beat Spurs tonight and we beat them on Sunday we would be 8 points clear in 4th.
Would that make us happy or would we still be moaning? lol.

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31 Jan 2018 18:40:38
It’s the united winning part and them being six points clear of us that’s hard to stomach 😂.


31 Jan 2018 18:44:14
There would still be moaners mate lol.


31 Jan 2018 18:45:28
I absolutely want a United win (as much as it pains me to say it) . At the end of the day, what's the difference between us finishing 2nd and 4th? It's still CL football. I'd much rather spurs lost ground and we finished 4th instead of them winning and it being a 4 way fight for 3 places. Even a draw would mean points for them so I'm firmly (unfortunately) supporting Man Ure tonight.


{Ed001's Note - the difference is about £2m and direct entry to the group stages of the Champions League rather than an early start to the season in the prelims.}

31 Jan 2018 18:50:26
2 big ifs mate. They will win v Utd tonight and Sunday will be a very tough game at Anfield.


31 Jan 2018 19:13:41
Personally hoping for a draw in that game. 4th is ours to loose but united dropping points would put us in a better position to nab 2nd or 3rd.


31 Jan 2018 19:17:35
The fact that Utd aren't gunning for the title I could live with them winning tonight.
You are right kloppsreds7, two big ifs so dare I say it but we need Utd to do us a favour tonight. Then roll on Sunday when we will take three more off them. We owe them big time.


31 Jan 2018 19:18:12
Personally don't think we'll catch Utd so it's a draw for me.
Think rules change next season and 4th place goes straight to group stage. though it's difficult to keep track with all the changes! Bring back the champions league for champions only!


31 Jan 2018 19:19:46
Wash your mouth out! A United win? You got to be kidding mate? I will take a draw thanks.


31 Jan 2018 18:13:55
Fekir not fekkin coming then? Wasnt he the big French name hinted at by Macca et al?

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31 Jan 2018 18:22:07
I think that was you, exiledscouser.


31 Jan 2018 18:22:47
No, it was Myriam Camille Mirabelle Fontaine, but she only came for the cup match and went home again.
Sorry about that mate.


31 Jan 2018 18:40:15
Thought Macca was hinting at Griezmann, not that such a deal would have happened in a million years. When a team like Barcelona are after you, players tend to join them and reject all other approaches. Just a matter of time until the lad leaves Athletico, question is, when the made scramble begins, which side will get him.


31 Jan 2018 18:41:27
"I have heard his name mentioned all over twitter so people are aware of the French international, now i hope that helps, but again he will take a lot of persuading .

Cheers

Macca. "

Maybe it was me making 2+2 =5.


31 Jan 2018 19:30:06
Nice one Olrish haha.


31 Jan 2018 19:30:58
It was Bernard diomede.


31 Jan 2018 18:05:43
The wife has just asked if I want to go out for food tonight.

I will be terrible company if I think I'm missing any news and she will not be a happy bunny.

Can I go safe in the knowledge that nothing is going to happen? Or is it best to get a take away and keep glued to the telly?

Basically. Are Liverpool trying to complete any deals today or has everyone gone home?

Cheers in advance.

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31 Jan 2018 18:09:06
I would book a table mate.


31 Jan 2018 18:10:50
Have zero 'in the know' knowledge but id say go out!


31 Jan 2018 18:13:17
Treat the wife mate and take the poor girl out, nothing to see here I'm pretty sure.

Even if something does happen, they'll still be there at LFC in the morning, the wife on the other hand, may not :)


31 Jan 2018 18:15:53
Keep the Mrs happy. Nothing going to happen. Take your phone and have a read on here whilst pretending to go to the loo.


31 Jan 2018 18:16:14
You should go, mate.

Unfortunately, I doubt any kind of movement will happen in regards to players incoming. Outgoing, certainly. Markovic will hopefully leave on a permanent, though more likely a loan.

In the summer Liverpool will make moves for players, so good out, have fun, eat a delicious meal and be safe in the knowledge that nothing has happened tonight in regards to transfers. I wish I could offer you better news but I am a realist. Panicking at the end of a transfer window is something Liverpool used to do, now, with Klopp, the likelihood is we will wait and see.


31 Jan 2018 18:27:28
Not a whisper that I have seen with just a couple hours left, although ED002 says otherwise?


31 Jan 2018 18:23:25
Panicking is now a thing of the past and LONG may it continue. As for the OP, go out and have a blinder with your wife, man. You both deserve it.


31 Jan 2018 18:25:27
Maybe better to keep an eye on whether we end tonight closer to manU or further away from spura. Cos our useless squad did just extend our gap to 5th place.


31 Jan 2018 18:32:02
Ed002 didn’t say that, the guy said should he bother watching deadline day and ed said yes. He didn’t say anything about us trying to get any players finalised or that we are speaking with anyone. Think he was just winding people up a bit.
No incomings mate, go out. Treat yourself to a beer on a school night too.


31 Jan 2018 18:50:06
Ed2 is winding us up a bit I think lol but it makes it exciting because now I'm kinda almost believing somebody's incoming.


31 Jan 2018 19:27:45
It's a sad life if you reject going out for the night to sit and wait for transfer news, especially of signings that we're not going to make.
I get the impression many folks are more interested in transfer hysteria than the actual football being played!


31 Jan 2018 19:32:00
Go out cos we play Porto on Valentine's day and that may kick up a whole host of problems.


31 Jan 2018 20:12:12
Brillianr, Ben elf!


31 Jan 2018 18:05:15
There must be some juicy experienced potential loan signings available.

Seems like a long time since we brought in a veteran like player on the cheap for a few months.

Only thing is, I haven't got a fabuckin clue who's out there!

Saves blowing stupid money, and for a temporary fix it's not necessarily a bad thing.

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31 Jan 2018 18:13:29
Steven Caulker is available.


31 Jan 2018 18:17:19
We could cancel Sturridge's loan and pay WBA the reported loan fee back, nice and cheap that :)


31 Jan 2018 18:21:30
If it was going to be a Gary McAllister veteran then I will be all for it.

Obviously we going to have to pass on this one.


31 Jan 2018 18:24:07
Spot on, Smeg. People can always hope, tho.


31 Jan 2018 17:39:34
Isco on his way to Liverpool!?

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31 Jan 2018 17:44:22
Nope but Keita is (the big question is if that will happen in next five hours. )


31 Jan 2018 17:59:47
Ken Aguero spotted at Anfield and was on the phone and some reporter overheard him ordering an extremely hot curry.


31 Jan 2018 18:07:50
Good ol' Ken Augero, I heard he has been loitering outside Anfield since 05.


31 Jan 2018 18:24:34
Are his pants part of the deal?


31 Jan 2018 18:26:27
Who is co?

Coutinho?

Doubt it, he probably went back to Spain after his going away do the other day mate :)


31 Jan 2018 17:38:49
I have decided to sign for LFC! the good news? I'm a right sided cb! no need to worry lads I have got this!

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31 Jan 2018 18:25:20
Clearly, this is not a panic buy.


31 Jan 2018 18:26:42
Can't be any worse than matip and Lovren have been, so I say go for it.


31 Jan 2018 17:38:19
Ed's - if we were to believe wonderdogsparky that Nobby's car is in the drive and the engine is warm, what would the procedures be compared to completing a deal for someone new on deadline day as I presume it is more of a paper exercise rather than medicals. Long story short, could it be done in a short space of time?
Thanks again Ed's and good luck for the next 5 hours or so.

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{Ed001's Note - the club can request an extension to complete the paperwork.}

31 Jan 2018 17:48:59
Thanks for the quick reply Ed 001 as always. Could you see it happening? I'm only asking as Ed 002 is teasing us again and I have succumbed to being gullible again.


{Ed001's Note - the issue is solely money. So it is entirely possible. I don't ever expect the club to do anything any more though, even easy deals they have messed up in recent years, such as the initial signing of van Dijk. Impossible to rely on them to get anything over the line!}

31 Jan 2018 18:01:27
Ed sorry mate but are we talking about Keita. Still a chance then?


{Ed001's Note - of course there is a chance. There is always a chance.}

31 Jan 2018 18:05:25
Ed1, I share your sentiments in that we have made it a habit in messing up transfers but am I stupid in holding out hope that we might pull off a surprise signing? I take it we are at least still trying to get the player Macca mentioned.


{Ed001's Note - you will only find out if you are stupid after the window shuts mate.}

31 Jan 2018 18:06:56
Ed are the club back talking to Leipzig about doing a deal today.


{Ed001's Note - it was not the club talking to RBL, I have said this repeatedly. Keita is the one pushing to get the move done.}

31 Jan 2018 18:14:43
😂😂😂 thanks ed you’ve managed to answer the question without answering 👍.


31 Jan 2018 18:53:46
I know you said he was the one pushing ed, I guess we all thought it wasnt happening though until the summer.


{Ed001's Note - and what have I said that changes that belief?}

31 Jan 2018 19:11:15
Nothing lol. Im getting wrapped up in Sparkys tweets again. Feet back on the ground mate. I get it. 😐.


31 Jan 2018 17:40:37
One for ed001 as I usually agree with 90% of his player posts.

who's your:
most over rated Liverpool player?
under rated Liverpool player?

most over rated premier league player?
most under rated premier league player?

most over rated player in world football?
most under rated player in world football?

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{Ed001's Note - wrong day for this mate sorry, ask again in a couple of days please.}

31 Jan 2018 17:22:10
A bit more than 5 hours left, are we going to be in for a big surprise Reds? I don't know for some reason I've got a good feeling about this. I might be wrong but hey oh. 😆.

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31 Jan 2018 17:29:39
Yep, I have a good feeling too about a massive surprise. My missus will put out tonight.

Scratch that, its the last day of the window, not the last day of the world!


31 Jan 2018 17:31:19
There will be no surprise sorry - we don’t do Andy Carroll signings any more :)


31 Jan 2018 17:40:49
Kwang song han has been linked but his a 19 year old I've never heard of.


31 Jan 2018 17:41:00
Thankfully.


31 Jan 2018 17:07:26
I can actually imagine us going in for Mathew now.

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31 Jan 2018 17:40:16
Mahrez**.


31 Jan 2018 18:04:20
I’d rather have Mathew.


31 Jan 2018 17:02:14
So where are the usual moaners?

Our season has gone down in flames, we are mediocrity. The players, manager, club, owners are rubbish etc

Blah, blah blah blah blah.

I bet none of these moaners will actually have one good thing to say about the win last night?

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31 Jan 2018 17:19:19
Just enjoy the win max. You're getting extremely boring now.


31 Jan 2018 17:19:19
Oh the irony.


31 Jan 2018 17:28:24
Are we going to win the league? No.
Are we going to win the FA Cup? No.
Are we going to win the League Cup? No.
Are we going to win the Champions League? Probably not.
Have we sold our best player and not replaced him? Yes.
Do we still have a weak defence, midfield and goalkeepers? Yes.

Has anything changed because of a win against a team that we should reasonably be beating? No. Nothing at all.

Our next game is against a team that absolutely humped us last time out. Let’s just get past that before jyou start jerking yourself off.


31 Jan 2018 17:44:24
Mr Dennis

Will Liverpool Football Club be in existence tomorrow?

My guess is that you have this fantasy of wanting to see the club fail. All your posts are evidence of this.

Go buy a box of tampons. You may need them as it does not seem you are going to stop hemorrhaging through the behind before the season has ended.


31 Jan 2018 18:10:12
Hahaha!

Max, love it fella, love it!


31 Jan 2018 18:17:07
This guy borers me. Sorry.


31 Jan 2018 18:17:14
Bores.


31 Jan 2018 18:25:55
Wait till the window ends and if we don't bring a shiny new player in the site will explode.


31 Jan 2018 18:26:26
What would you like the people moaning to come on here and say? "all hail max, Liverpools number one supporter, you were right we (they) are wrong". Just take a step back and leave it, if people are moaning just press the disagree button and move on.


31 Jan 2018 18:28:37
Never fear I am always about for a pinch of negative posts.


31 Jan 2018 18:29:50
Love your optimism, Max but it's a bit much, don't you think. I do like your response to Dennis, tho. Loved that.


31 Jan 2018 18:35:51
Waro, is it not you having a dig at the owners all the time?

There is much more to life than constant complaining. constant constant, constant bickering BS, sour, Liverpool is 'rubbish' constant boo ha BS.

Wake up tomorrow and go have have a look at the lovely sky. Take a breath and let it all in. If that does not work then go for counselling mate.


31 Jan 2018 20:16:00
Waro, you mean like you do? Cos all you do is moan and moan and when all else fails, moan some more. You are free to moan as others are free to either respond to such moaning or not. It is not anyone's place to tell others to either not respond or press disagree esp. this, coming someone who could use a day or two off from moaning on and on about the same thing, FSG.


31 Jan 2018 16:59:09
Nobbys car is at Sparky's house😉.

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31 Jan 2018 17:26:42
He’s off to Stoke?


31 Jan 2018 16:58:06
Ed's do you think there will be any new incomings before end of the day? Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

31 Jan 2018 17:16:00
The only incomings will be letting off a wind and then smelling it.


31 Jan 2018 16:49:15
With it looking like there will be no more signings coming it can be seen as a double edged sword. One on side you have the valid argument that the club want to bid for and recruit players they want, if those players are not available until the summer then wait till then. Otherwise you end up with players just for the sake of signing them.

On the other hand if you do not recruit and have a bad second half to the season, and do not make top four and go out of the CL earlier than we should all we will hear is its all Klopp and FSGs fault it's down to them as we did not buy reinforcements after selling out best playmaker. Again could be seen as a valid point. It's a difficul one.

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31 Jan 2018 16:58:50
Only end of season will tell if buying or not in jan was a good or bad move .


31 Jan 2018 17:25:29
Did we recruit last January to make top four last season?

Our squad is much stronger since the signings of last summer.

We signed VVD in this window too.

Patience. We do not want another Brendan aka kid in a candy shop end up with a squad that makes no sense.

Patience!


31 Jan 2018 16:48:31
Do you do any of this on deadline day?

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31 Jan 2018 16:32:06
Hi Eds, Just saw on the Liverpool page about the senior level restructure.

Is this anything positive for the fans? with some of the bad rep Liverpool have earned in the past as well the unprofessional acts we have committed!

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{Ed002's Note - I have not looked at any PRs today so know nothing of it. If it is about the Head of Operations leaving it has been on the cards.}

31 Jan 2018 15:41:14
Eds,

Should I just turn off deadline day coverage now to avoid further disappointment or is there any prospect of anything happening?

I think I know the answer but ever hopeful.

J.

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{Ed002's Note - I would keep it on until the last knockings.}

31 Jan 2018 15:52:06
Ed002, you tease!

Apparently we're activating the release clause of Kerem Demirbay next 😂.


{Ed002's Note - One English side came close to buying him earlier in the month.}

31 Jan 2018 15:59:04
I told you this back a few weeks/ months ago MK.

It went to the rumours page, told you we had a very good look at him, he's seen as low risk because his fee is quite low and he's not been first choice for some of the season at Hoffenheim.

Not saying we're 100% going to buy him in this window or the summer, but believe me, we are watching or have recently watched him very very closely with an idea to bring him in.

He's about 6 foot, technically sound and has a wicked set piece on him, so we'll see.


31 Jan 2018 16:00:29
So you're saying there is a chance 😉.


31 Jan 2018 16:05:48
Just to follow up quickly sorry, not sure if he has a release clause or any of that nonsense, but Liverpool scouts were definitely asked to take a look at him more in depth, it wasn't just our play off matches that were used to determine whether we should make moves or not to get him.

I can't see it happening myself personally as he seems to blow hot and cold, but he is young and supposedly wouldn't cost the Earth.

All second hand information, cannot verify if accurate, sorry, but this is a rumour site ha!


31 Jan 2018 16:15:50
"I'd say more like one out of a million. " :)


31 Jan 2018 16:03:38
Ed, why are there so many deals done on deadline day, is it desperation or lower priced players compared to a couple of weeks ago?


{Ed002's Note - It is generally posturing for a while and then the inevatability of it all. That os one of the reasons I cannot say about timings.}

31 Jan 2018 16:35:32
I've got my fingers crossed Kev 😉 we badly need midfield reinforcements!

Only other rumour which seems to have a degree of legitimacy is that we could sign 19 year old Kwang Song Han from Cagliari.

So Demirbay and Han are the players Daler1 is on about on the rumours page 😂.


31 Jan 2018 16:37:27
Don't think it would be Kerem Demirbay that Ed002 is teasing us with. Doesn't the window shut in Germany at 5pm? Might be wrong sure I saw that on SSN earlier.


{Ed001's Note - only applies to incomings.}

31 Jan 2018 16:43:59
See lads, none of the Eds have denied it! Demirbay is our new No.10 😂😂.


31 Jan 2018 16:40:55
Ah thanks for clearing that up Ed001.


{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

31 Jan 2018 16:55:07
I don't think he'd be the answer to our midfield issues in all honesty.

He's about 6 foot tall, but perhaps not physical enough for the PL, haven't seen enough of him to be certain on that though.
Either way, I'll trust the manager's opinion over mine.

The "Han" rumours, hmmm okay, I thought Bruce Lee killed him at the end of Enter the Dragon, but okay, sure, I can work with that :)


31 Jan 2018 17:03:11
Thanks for the reply Ed002. I just like seeing the Sky team wetting themselves when a deal happens, or like the Mahrez deal, when it doesn't!


31 Jan 2018 15:29:41
*** *****
The Babelcopter has broken down outside Messi's house.

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31 Jan 2018 15:44:49
Hope it stays there, Messi is the single worst footballer I have ever seen play football in my life.

Only worse players were Ronaldo (the fat one) and Maradonna (the other fat one), thank the gods we never had them worm their way into LFC at their peaks.

We should be after top players like a Coutinho replacement - is Joey Barton busy at all or?


31 Jan 2018 15:53:41
If someone gets me Barton's address, I'll drive there and pick him up.

I'm a bad driver though so if my car ends up at the bottom of a lake, it was an accident 👀.


31 Jan 2018 16:10:20
Likely to be in a Women's prison somewhere with that hairstyle of his last time I saw him.

He's possibly going through a little physical change.

I hear there's one or two others on this site who this is happening to or has happened to recently also :)


31 Jan 2018 16:14:50
Barton made a winning contribution to City's first league title in 44 years whereas Messi has never even scored in a PL match. Barton > Messi, end of debate.


31 Jan 2018 16:35:40
You'll probably find him at the bookies.


31 Jan 2018 15:24:20
Ed. what's your opinion of Yan danda, how is progressing, do you think will he make senior rank this season. thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen him play this season sorry.}

31 Jan 2018 16:13:56
He is progressing well, not a touch near first team level but can see him pushing for a loan in the summer.

Nice technical player. Just maturing nicely, there was interest from forest last season but I think he needs to just work hard here maybe train a bit with the first team.


31 Jan 2018 14:52:04
Just want to say, that I like Klopp and what he's doing, so not at all whining about things.

I think we'll just about make the top 4 come May and I think it'll be some achievement to do so with the lack of movement coming in in this window in comparison to some of our rivals (Spurs/ Chelsea being the exceptions as I write this, this may change in the next few hours) .

If we do indeed finish 4th or higher, Klopp will really need to get some top players in during the Summer to drive us on and improve us - it could be a big Summer window for us and needs to be to keep up with (most of) the rest.

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31 Jan 2018 15:04:27
A lot will rest on top 4 and how we do in the champions league in my opinion.

We need a good CL run 👍.


31 Jan 2018 15:04:32
Think summer window will be tough.

Eds Isn't the summer window where the english transfer window shuts one day before the season starts? Despite the fact other countries transfer window will remain open?


{Ed002's Note - Most other European windows will shut later, yes.}

31 Jan 2018 15:30:44
Yeah agreed Ron.
Top 4 position is vital to our summer and if we get past Porto, then anything further is a bonus, semi final spot would be a fantastic effort and potentially make us a more attractive option, my only fear is getting fleeced with over inflated prices, luckily it's not my money eh?!

Yeah Jordz, it will be tough, maybe one of the toughest in a while and as you rightly point out, we'll have slightly less time than usual to get targets.

Luckily all other PL clubs are in that same boat too - it was a strange decision to cut the window short in hindsight, one I agreed with at the time until I realised it was only for PL clubs.

Possibly another reason why it's best to avoid allowing minimum release fees for foreign clubs to be allowed in player contracts as Emre Can is supposedly rumoured to be asking for.


31 Jan 2018 17:29:43
To be fair. Bet Liverpool feel pretty stupid now not giving him that release clause. It would have been a hell of a lot more than we will get now.


31 Jan 2018 14:47:05
Carra spotted Rues in Liverpool!?!

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31 Jan 2018 14:53:15
Isn't he injured. think he'd struggle to pass a medical :D.


31 Jan 2018 15:30:14
He was being sarcastic 🤦🏽‍♀️.


31 Jan 2018 15:39:57
Pretty sure you can pass a medical injured, didn’t we sign Aquilani while he was out injured?
Obviously I know that we are not signing Reus before anyone says it!


{Ed002's Note - It is not a passd, it is a failure the club see as a low risk.

31 Jan 2018 12:29:04
So it was mentioned further down that we need a creator in midfield and i fully agree.

Henderson is going to play the central role when fit, and we have Ox and Keita to give us direct options in midfield. Lallana will most likely stay and he can be that creative influence but he is just so rarely fit. He also does too much himself instead of letting the ball do the work.

There are some very good experienced options around who could be available at the right price. David Silva, Toni Kroos, Jaoa Moutinho, Gonzalo Castro, Cesc Fabregas, Mesut Ozil, Ivan Rakitic etc.

I personally still think we will push for Lemar in the summer, but if not, there are certainly some good options potentially available. If I'm honest, I'd love Silva, Kroos or Ozil! They all have that killer pass in the final third, in their locker. Not that Lemar doesn't, he's just a bit raw.

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31 Jan 2018 12:37:16
Scratch Ozil. He's only gone and signed a new Arsenal deal as i typed this 😂.


31 Jan 2018 12:42:38
Good luck with Ozil lol . Kroos would be instead of Henderson, better passing but less energy/ pressing. No idea about Silva.

I keep saying whoever comes in needs to have an amazing delivery on set pieces. When we’re forced to play possession games the easiest way to score of through set pieces. That’s how half the teams score gaunt is with one corner!


31 Jan 2018 12:43:35
Kovacic could be a good option.


31 Jan 2018 12:46:54
David Silva? Are you serious mk? We or anyone else would have no chance! He’s their main man. I do agree we need a creator though mate.


31 Jan 2018 12:48:31
Ozil just renewed.


31 Jan 2018 13:06:22
Agree with you here MK. We are just missing that type of player.

Ozil has just signed a new contract so I think you can cross that one off.

I would like us to go and have a scout and find someone not too well known to be honest. I think Keita will bring an energy to the midfield going forward that milner/ wij don't so that will be a good upgrade.

If Henderson fitness is an issue I think he may need to have his game be sitting back infront of our cbs and keeping the ball moving with keita infront of him and this passer of the ball.


31 Jan 2018 13:09:07
Kovacic would be a really good shout. He is still young and is physically the kind of player that would fit a Klopp team, we should avoid Rakitic at all costs though, his legs are going and would be too much of a risk.


31 Jan 2018 13:27:25
I think Lallana and Woodburn in the creative CAM role would do the job if given the chance. Either that or drop Firmino into the CF role and play Ings or Solanke as a ST. With Henderson and Keita as the holding midfielders.

Sure it would be nice to add Kroos or somebody like that but I would take every penny we have available for next season and get a goalkeeper and another CB.

Moreno, Lovren, Matip, Mignolet, and Clyne are dragging the quality of the defence down and although some of them show flashes of competence now and then, none of them are consistent enough to challenge at the top.

The same could be said for Wijnaldum and Milner, then there is Can, Sturridge, markovic, Grujic, Origi, Flanagan, and Ward who all seem to be waiting for their chance to leave the club whilst collecting a wage every week.


31 Jan 2018 13:47:50
You think we'd get kroos?


31 Jan 2018 13:50:44
Noshbag, thing is that Lallana lacks the final ball. Woodburn has got a better passing range, but it is a big responsibility to lump on to him, although he should be getting more minutes if he isn't going on loan.


31 Jan 2018 13:51:54
Kovacic would be a good shout. My dream would probably be Veratti but i highly doubt he is available.

Swish, Kroos doesn't play the same role Henderson does anymore. He did for a short time after Alonso left, but he got over run defensively. That's why Rafa put Casemeiro into the team and put Kroos in a more advanced role off the side of Casemeiro, with Modric off the other side. We have Hendo to sit, Keita/ Chambo to play one side and offer directness from midfield, but we need a proper creative influence on the other side. Kroos is exactly that and is reportedly available to raise funds.

WelshRed, I've heard that Man City are open to selling David Silva if they got a good price. No idea why, or how true it is. He is 32 though so maybe Pep wants a younger player. I'd take Silva for a few years though. He's never been injury prone and never relied on pace so will go to 35 easily.


31 Jan 2018 13:59:50
I personally think Meyer is the type of midfielder that would be a great option. I think between Klopp and Buvac they would be able to mould him into a great versatile CM, Number 6 to swap with Henderson or push forward to play a CAM role. Sadly from what is being reported in Germany and now here, he is going to Arsenal today. Obviously it is purely guess work for me to suggest the type of player he'd become under Klopp, but at 22 and with his range of positions, I think he could grow with keita and form a good partnership. Considering Can will most probably leave and Milner over the hill by next season.


31 Jan 2018 14:08:41
We should go balls out for Lemar. He's young and will be one of the best world players 2 years from now.


31 Jan 2018 14:11:38
I don't a playmaker as such is what we need but rather a midfielder who can set the pace. Can and Gini can follow the pace of a game, like v City. They can't make it happen themselves, like v Swans. Hendo is better in this aspect or rather not as bad as EC and GW. Coutinho had this in his locker and we need someone to fill this role.
If we get to play a quick game we'll do fine without a new midfielder, but there won't be that many opportunities to do that after Swansea showed the world how to make us look uneasy and sluggish using quite simple means to bring the pace down.
Huddersfield tried but failed due to that rocket from Can. Won't be surprised to see Kane and Eriksen screen passes 15 meters from their own box come sunday.


31 Jan 2018 14:16:01
Who knows Firmane? Aim high though. Dream Big!

This is Liverpool FC mate. We are one of the biggest pulls in world football and we finally have a manager and the finances to match the pull of the clubs name.

Anything is possible. Kroos complimented Klopp recently. He was more hinting at Klopp going to Madrid, but maybe he'd be interested in working under Klopp for Liverpool? I'm just putting forward some ambitious options. We need a player who can pick out that killer pass around the box though, and i really hope we aim high.


31 Jan 2018 14:19:40
Kroos would be an amazing signing as he can control the game and is one of the best in the world, but realistically it is a signing that will never happen, the same goes for Veratti, whereas Kovacic is realistic and possesses a brilliant range of passing, his shooting is top notch and he does work hard in midfield. David Silva would be a great Gary Mac type signing Woodburn could learn a lot from having him around.


31 Jan 2018 14:23:25
Think you should go and watch the little guy we jsut signed from RED BULL in germany as he can play a killer pass or two.


31 Jan 2018 14:24:59
Max Meyer is another good shout.

Andy Thorne, i think we need a player who can do both. To be fair, most midfield playmakers can play the killer passes and control the tempo. I don't think we need an attacking playmaker like Isco, Hamsik or Hazard. Firmino drops in and does that role when Salah and Mane break beyond him. We need a pass master in the midfield though so we can get it to our front 3 in dangerous scenario's.


31 Jan 2018 14:34:32
Apparently Arsenal are going to make an offer for Max Meyer today.


31 Jan 2018 14:45:24
Max Meyer would be a great option. Would be a shame if we missed out on him especially to Arsenal.


31 Jan 2018 15:05:00
Johncrow, Keita is one player though.

City have De Bruyne and Silva. Madrid have Kroos and Modric. Barcelona have Rakitic and Iniesta. PSG have Verratti and Matuidi. Bayern have Thiago and Tolisso.

All the best sides in the world who play 4-3-3 have two midfielders who can play a killer pass. Usually one who is direct (Matuidi, Modric, Rakitic, Tolisso etc) and one who makes the ball do the work (Kroos, Veratti, Iniesta, Thiago etc) .

In Keita and Chamberlain we have two good young players who can offer that direct creativity, but we don't have anyone who can make it look effortless. Coutinho will go and take that mantle off of Iniesta for Barcelona and we all know that is how Klopp planned to use Coutinho this season before he threw a strop and refused to help out defensively

That for me is what we lack. The genius behind the attacking play. It's not even strictly a Coutinho replacement, because Coutinho was only ever a left winger here regardless of how Barcelona plan to use him and how Klopp planned to. I haven't seen enough of Kovacic if I'm honest, but he does seem to get a lot of support on these pages.

Either way, everything points towards us going after Lemar in the summer Arsenal have somehow tricked Ozil into signing a new deal so we theoretically have a free run at Lemar now!


31 Jan 2018 15:05:41
Agree with Andy Thorne 👏.


31 Jan 2018 15:14:15
you mean ozil has tricked arsenal 350k he must dancing on the roof with that deal
I personally would love us to just give a youngster a go until the summer then really go in big for someone like saul niguez.


31 Jan 2018 15:41:00
Niguez is a great player to be fair.


31 Jan 2018 16:08:53
Mk, I wasn’t saying I wouldn’t want Silva, I’d love him, he’d get into almost every team across Europe but (I can’t remember where) I read somewhere about Pep rating him as their most important player and the win ratio with him in the team compared to not. I fully agree we need his type though mate.


31 Jan 2018 16:39:14
So not a keeper or another centre half left back right back or holding midfielder? And people criticise klopp for not sorting the defence out. As I predicted weeks ago, we will sign nobody so the conversation is pointless regarding what players to target and what positions. The money for couthiho was earmarked for keita and van dijk, so when salah is sold that will fund next summers transfers and even then probably not all of his transfer fee will be spent. Its just moving money around, a slight of hand trick and some of you either can't see it or don't want to.


31 Jan 2018 16:40:51
I suggested Kovacic to the site 4 yeas Ago! People laughed at me back then. Now they all want him or someone like him! I am happy!


31 Jan 2018 17:25:29
They didn’t laugh at you for suggesting him Harry we laughed at your obsession with him and how you obsessed over a different midfield player every week or every round of champions league games mate.


31 Jan 2018 17:30:23
Don’t remember that Harry, are you sure? 🤨.


31 Jan 2018 12:17:20
I’ve heard managers complain about the inconvenience having a match on deadline day. Firstly how much are managers involved in the latter stages of deals? Secondly do they have a point, or should they have backroom staff that can deal with transfers while they focus on the game?

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{Ed002's Note - Typically they are not involved in the negotiations and contracts at all. Their issue is reflected in the situation Chelsea has tonight where they have no first team striker available - so they have to suck it up and move on. It is no big deal in the big scheme of things.}

31 Jan 2018 12:51:03
They should take the issue up with SkyTV who pay the bills 👍.


31 Jan 2018 13:52:44
ED002, is it right that on deadline day in Italy they get all the clubs chairmen etc together in one hotel to thrash out any deadline deals, or is that an urban myth, as it seems like a common sense idea.


{Ed002's Note - I have never heard that. There are occasions, such as the Monaco meetings, European draws etc. where much can be done as there are agents around and clubs will often send negotiators or the DoF etc..

31 Jan 2018 12:07:14
Hi edds,

Went to watch Marseille a few months ago and went to watch them play and was really impressed by one of their midfielders and have just seen that Watford were interested in signing him this window. Zambo anguissa his name was I think? . Have we ever shown any interest?, fits the bill of an upcoming young defending midfield player who could improve our midfield.

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Nath - this is the Liverpool page - try the European pages or the Marseille page.}

31 Jan 2018 06:16:13
Hi Ed's,

No doubt you're in for a busy 24 hours so although my question is transfer related it won't be about targets per se.!

I'm interested to know how quickly a transfer can actually be completed given the legal, contractual and logistics considerations that all have to be organised? There is normally a surprise or 2 on deadline day, but how many of these are simply covert deals that have been worked on for a week or more but just haven't hit the media until very late? In my line of work (although it may not be a fair example), it would be impossible to get a deal done in 24 hours; and these would be far less complex and lower in value than a professional football transfer.

Apologies if the question is naive, but how can deals of such size and complexity be completed in just a few hours?

Thanks in advance!

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{Ed002's Note - Sides can agree an outline contract that contains the key information about length, wages, bonuses and then sign that in order to provide the paperwork to the FA by 2300 hours. There is a period of grace if it is running slightly late and the FA are asked if that is OK (which Leicester failed to do last summer with Silva). Many transfers are very straight forward and don't need much haggling between either clubs or players where it is a straight xx fee paid in three eaqual installment over one year and the player will be paid xx with xx after 50 appearances and xx after 100 appearnace. The prima donnas need more.}

31 Jan 2018 10:44:35
How much more do the prima donnas need ED to get over the line? XXXX? :)

PS. No need to answer :)


31 Jan 2018 10:49:55
Thanks Ed, so in theory any club could initiate a move with literally hours of the window remaining and still get the transfer approved? Is there a generally accepted cut off point where it wouldn’t be worthwhile trying based on the time it would take to get it across the line though?


{Ed002's Note - No, there is no cut off point. If you take the P-EA/OG/MB transfer as an example the registration in Germany needs to be with the DFB by 1700.}

31 Jan 2018 11:09:34
Brilliant, thanks Ed.


31 Jan 2018 13:28:59
With any luck we can sort out a deal for Messi today then.


31 Jan 2018 14:45:31
P-EA/ OG/ MB - that's Aubameyang, Giroud and who's MB, if you don't mind my asking, ed002?


{Ed001's Note - Michy Batshuayi.}

31 Jan 2018 14:46:14
Oh wait, nevermind, MB is Batshuayi, isn't it.


{Ed001's Note - yes.}

31 Jan 2018 09:30:00
With Couts and Studg gone and VVD the only incoming player this window do u think that there is any possibility of the likes of Brewster when fit again or any other youth or U23 player in getting into the 1st team squad and possibly some actual game time.
Cheers.

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31 Jan 2018 09:40:06
Good post actually mate because I'd much rather us play some of our youngsters then go and panic buy a player today (which i don't think will happen, thankfully) - some are talking like our squad is thin because we have got rid of 2 players, 1 who never played lol we're fine, but I would like to see much more of some of these youngsters, we have some potentially top quality young lads just waiting for their chances.


31 Jan 2018 09:45:10
Brewster is out for 4 months with ankle ligament damage, Ejaria looks likely to go on loan to Sunderland, Ojo is on loan at Fulham, Kent is on loan at Bristol City, Whelan is on loan at Yeovil, Virtue is on loan at Notts County etc. Wilson will probably leave in the near future.

I think the main players to keep an eye on this season are Solanke, Arnold and Woodburn. They should all get chances over the next 15-20 games. I don't see anyone else jumping up with us out of both cups and into the business end of the PL and CL.

Millar, Lewis, Jones, Tagseth, Dhanda and Adekanye are all seen as top prospects but they're all still u19's and more likely to get chances in the coming seasons. Lewis is the closest of the bunch in my opinion.


31 Jan 2018 10:02:46
Agree MK - we have three talented youngsters desperate for game time in Solanke, Woodburn and TAA. Hopefully they get their chance.

While everyone has their pet favourites (Wilson, Ojo etc. ), the rest of the youngsters should be looking to get regular game time on loan or continuing their growth in u23s. There’s limited benefit in trying to fit more than the above 3 into the first team squad as it just mean no-one will get enough consistency or game time to prove themselves if you spread it around too much.


31 Jan 2018 10:38:18
Didn't realise the severity of Brewster's ankle MK well he's obviously gone for the rest of the year pity as a real rough diamond and was flying this year. I'm extremely surprised that woodburn hasn't got as much game time as TAA and Solanke really thought he'd suit our style of play with his pace has bulked up too so not the little boy anymore even though he still is a nipper at 18 .


31 Jan 2018 10:49:23
Yeah it was a bad one Zippy.

Masterson, Grabara and the new lad Gallacher are also going to be training regularly with the first team, but i doubt they'll make their debut's this year.


31 Jan 2018 11:07:46
Brewster won't be back for a while mate. Suffered a serious ankle injury i think. For now, all eyes will be on Solanke, TAA and Woodburn as they already have a taste of first team action and will be needed to step in case of injuries and squad rotation. Fingers crossed all of them pass with flying colours (coz we need them to) .


31 Jan 2018 12:33:34
Woodburn for me should be coming on for mane, solanke is a good option from the bench, and despite his recent poor performances TAA has shown great promise bearing in mind he is unlikely to be playing right back all of his career, what TAA and Gomez are getting is valuable experience which benefits them and benefits us as well, these lads need to be given a chance that's the only way we will find out if they are good enough.


31 Jan 2018 09:15:02
Ed’s and you all reds. Couldn’t post a reply to my previous post. But just want to say a massive thanks to all who posted and especially the ed, he was over the moon. Il try and get a picture of him and the team uploaded aha. Once again thanks lads.

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{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, the lad has taste. So who would he go for at left back?}

31 Jan 2018 09:36:54
Bless your newphew mate, I just searched for the post you did and he certainly knows his stuff doesn't he? good lad :) tell him to study hard and aim to be a scout! but only for us lol.


31 Jan 2018 14:21:35
hes obsessed with football, watches european, mls the lot. comes out with a player who i've never heard off and can tell you how many goals, caps etc etc they've got for club and country.

ahaha Ed sensitive subject he's a big fan of Robertson, think that position is nailed down in his eyes.


{Ed001's Note - I was assuming as the replacement for Moreno, an older head to cover until one of the 2 youngsters is ready.}

31 Jan 2018 15:12:51
the young fella knows his stuff, I am a big fan of Robbo too, and he is 23 yrs old, and will continue to improve, left back is a hard position to cover,
well done to your nephew .


31 Jan 2018 08:58:15
Morning Reds,

So who's feeling optimistic today? lol.

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31 Jan 2018 09:18:21
YES!

life’s too short to be pessimistic. 😃.


31 Jan 2018 09:18:47
My optimism never waivered! I still think we can win the Champions League and one bad week hasn't changed my mind.


31 Jan 2018 09:36:36
Here here.


31 Jan 2018 12:22:11
Champions league and a second place finish for me will do nicely. Cl will be tough but second should be fine. Let's hope for a nice quiet day.


31 Jan 2018 12:27:38
Are these sarcastic? Winning the CL? :O.


31 Jan 2018 12:52:48
Agree with MK. I have had a cheeky £10 each Way for UCL. I just think that all the planets are lining up for this. Im over 50 and I still get stupidly excited by all things "Liverpool F. C" Bring on Porto!


31 Jan 2018 14:18:52
I saw Neymar on the bus next to me so not sure what he's upto.


{Ed001's Note - as you are Welsh, must be off to sign for Cardiff, as which Brazilian superstar would not want to shi*kick for Colin?}

31 Jan 2018 14:24:40
We’ve done it before when no one outside the club would have fancied us, no one! But we did it.


31 Jan 2018 18:52:33
It's almost disheartening how you leave off Newport County as a potential destination for Neymar but he'd struggle to get into the squad ATM,


{Ed001's Note - that was his fear.}

31 Jan 2018 08:32:40
Hard to judge anyone in that game as Huddersfield didn't show up, but I'll try. You can only beat what is in front of you i guess. Can't help but feel we got lucky though. A huge deflection, a goal keeping howler, and a silly penalty to concede. Hopefully that luck (which didn't fall for us at all in the last league game against Swansea) will give the team some confidence going into the game against Tottenham.

Karius 7/ 10 - made some convincing claims, was quick off his line, and his positioning was perfect to stop a firm shot from a cross which went down the centre of the goal. As Mignolet showed against West Brom, it's easy to get drawn too far to your near post on crosses and leave the whole goal open for a rather central tap in! One bad pass out to Lovren gave away a needless throw in.

Gomez 6/ 10 - had nothing to do really. Couple of good runs and forward passes, crosses were poor again. Defended well when he had to.

Matip 6/ 10 - see above.

Lovren 7/ 10 - defended very well. In fact he was so dominant against the big strikers that the player on his side started standing on Robertson instead so he could touch the ball. Most importantly, no mistakes.

Robertson 7/ 10 - got beaten in the air a few times after the big striker moved to his area, but made some good runs forward and looked very assured in general. Considering he was targeted and gave away nothing, it was a good game from him.

Henderson 8/ 10 - hopefully people can finally see how vital his quick short passing is. Yes, it's not Hollywood like Gerrard and Alonso, but Hendo shifts the ball so quickly that opposition never get time to settle. He set the tempo, won Back possession a few times and was my man of the match. Controlled the game.

Can 7/ 10 - lucky with the deflection, but if you don't buy a ticket you don't win the lottery. Also played in a couple of good crosses for Mane. Was in the right place at the right time to win the penalty. Overall a much better performance, but his general play was still lethargic at times. At key times though, he produced and i saw a bit of passion in his tracking back at one stage, even though Firmino had more pace to actually get back and win it before Can got there!

Milner 6/ 10 - won possession back countless times by pressing very high. However, his passing was slow though, and on several occasions he intercepted a pass out wide to Robertson which either made our play narrow, or gave Huddersfield an extra pass to set themselves for a cross. Frustrating.

Mane 6/ 10 - overall Mane played well. Good involvement in the build up to the second goal, and kept getting into scoring positions. The only problem was he missed an absolute sitter from the second cross from Can. The first header was harder as the cross had less pace and he was further out, but the second he has to be hitting the target. I don't get all the nonsense about him lacking pace after his injuries. He's still strong as an Ox and lightening quick. His end product has just been lacking at a few key times this season. Could've had a goal if Salah had passed to him for an open goal as again he had the pace and power to get into the right position.

Firmino 7/ 10 - naughty finish and his tracking back to recover his and other peoples mistakes all game was an example to all aspiring footballers. The only reason I'm giving him a 7 is because he kept dropping too deep in possession so there was nobody to aim at in the box at times.

Salah 6/ 10 - poor game from Salah. Missed the best chance of the game due to having no right foot to either score or pull it back for Mane, and he kept getting knocked off the ball all game when he is usually so strong. He saved his performance with a confident penalty though and as we've seen lately, penalties aren't guaranteed goals. He was heavily marked though and that focus on him did allow Can the space to exploit down the right flank as he did on several occasions.

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31 Jan 2018 09:07:36
Nice that MK. It was a strange game but you can only beat what's put in front of you. I'm loving Robertson at the moment, his energy was much needed last night. Big test Sunday, payback hopefully.


31 Jan 2018 09:10:43
Pretty good assessment but how Henderson is man of the match ahead of Can is beyond me.
I said the other day, Can's head is already in Italy so I owe the lad a massive apology.
Im also very happy Lorius got his clean sheet big improvement confidence hopefully.
Nice write up mate and good read.


31 Jan 2018 09:19:22
Did you watch the match mate? Thought you were giving it a miss with Can and Matip starting 😉.


31 Jan 2018 09:31:10
Hi MK I have to stick up a bit for Milner. No one on here wanted him to play. But he was brought into the team last night to do a very specific job and he did that very well. In the first 20 minutes along with Henderson they earned the team the right to control the game. He won every second ball, no attacks came from the opposition down his side in the whole first half. Our goals came from moves created from the side he was covering.

He was forward when he was supposed to be and in the center or back when he was supposed to be. On their one chance he was the one who tracked back and would have got any rebound. On the penalty he never moaned, he is the best penalty tacker but he didn't make a fuss. Who was the first player in the box in case a rebound Milner.

Milner is a limited football we all know that, if he could do what he did last night plus pass quick like you say he would be in every week but he can't. Remember it was his first league start for a month, that is not easy for any player.

My point is you can't give him a 6 for doing everything that the team agains't Swansea and West Brom couldn't do. Will he be in the team v Spurs no but was he the best man for the job last night yes 100%. very solid 7

If you have time Mr Dennis how did you think he played?


31 Jan 2018 09:35:14
Johncrow, Can was great in a few moments and poor for most of the game over running it or hitting shots, passes and crosses against Huddersfield players. He certainly had luck with him last night though because that shot was never beating Lossl without the heavy deflection, and why that defender has fouled him in the box when there was no immediate danger is beyond me. Can's only moments of quality came with his two good crosses to Mane, but credit where it is due, he's got himself involved and reaped the rewards that you sometimes get for doing so.

Henderson was great all game though both in and out of possession. That's only my opinion mate and i respect your right to disagree. I don't think you owe Can an apology though. He is picking and choosing when he wants to show up. Last night Huddersfield gave him 50 yards to run into all game because they had every player down their left side chasing after Salah. Can's eyes must've lit up when he saw the space they continually gave him. At least he did something with it, but I won't be apologising for calling out his lack of effort this season. If anything, Can should apologise to the fans because performances like this and the Man City game only highlight his lack of effort in other games even more! He has proven he has ability, but he only shows it once or twice a month when it suits him.

I'll happily credit him for this one off game, hence why i gave him the joint 2nd highest match rating in the team. One game hasn't changed my overall opinion of him though.


31 Jan 2018 09:49:11
nor should one game change your opinion of anybody MK
I personally feel that winning a penalty, scoring a goal, and offering up two assist for mane on a platter warrants Man of the match in addition to his actual game performance.
I feel a few on here champion Henderson because Ed001 speaks highly of him (and so he should ) as before that not a lot ever mentioned him and his performances in a glowing manner.
I personally think Henderson will struggle for Game time next season if his ankle does not improve
Question for you MK as you rate henderson could you give me your opinion on him for next season once Naby comes in as where do you see him fitting in?


31 Jan 2018 09:53:55
That is a very good defence of him Mark, to be fair.

I only knocked him down to a 6 because he got in the way offensively, but you are correct in everything you said that he did right. I'd still prefer him in the team to Wijnaldum on current form. Maybe he was a 6.5 😉 he certainly didn't have a bad game and it was very mature of him not to kick off about the penalty. Complaining and making a scene would've heaped pressure on whoever did take it eventually!


31 Jan 2018 10:06:26
John - Henderson will play where he played last night. Keita will play midfield more left side, but covering a lot of ground. All will depend on whether Henderson's foot can take the pressure of a full season.

Milner will be off, Can as well so we need other midfield players. Lallana very injury prone so who knows who will be in our midfield next season. Keita, Hendo, Ox still not quite good enough for me.


31 Jan 2018 10:10:42
That's a fair reasoning Johncrow, and i do agree Can was still one of the better players on the night. The old saying is "you make your own luck".

I have to say though, i think I've rated Henderson longer than even Ed001. I've taken stick for the last 6 years for being his biggest fan. His name is on the back of my replica shirt.

However, to answer your question, i think he will be phased out next season unless he can string together 15 games in a row between now and May. If he's not fit to play regularly, we need to move on as a team. Sturridge is a great player but we moved on because of his fitness issues. Henderson is equally great, but if he can't shake these injuries and start making more than 20-25 appearances a season then we simply have to move on. Your captain should play 45-50 games a season. They should be one of the main players in the side. Not necessarily the best player, but they are the one players look to for leadership and when they're not there it spreads uncertainty throughout the team.

If Hendo returns to full fitness, i see Henderson in central midfield with hopefully Lemar left of him (where Milner was last night), and Keita right of him (where Can was last night) .


31 Jan 2018 10:16:51
Sometimes the team needs someone just to do a specific job. Away from home agains't certain sides I think he should play as well. Henderson and him seem to be actually communicating which made a nice change.

I left all of the negative stuff after West Brom game but I couldn't take Wijnaldum away from home ever, and Mingolet in any game. They have had too many chances and let the team down badly. It will be a big call in the next match to see who plays in midfield.

My main change is VVD for Matip. I think VVD and Lovren can form a good partnership.


31 Jan 2018 10:35:16
I was only joking about not watching, Ron! They frustrate the hell out of me but for the 90 minutes they're on the pitch i want nothing but good things for them.


31 Jan 2018 10:36:27
Unfortunately Can has 1 good game in 4. Hendo is consistently strong and busy when fit. He's captain for a reason and will be a constant in the starting 11 when he's fit. Arrivederci Can 👋.


31 Jan 2018 10:36:37
How heavy are Cans boots? He played better further forward but still easily replaced, glad to see Wijnaldum not starting and agree Henderson for all his bashing for sideways and backwards passing he brought an urgency we miss.


31 Jan 2018 10:41:50
Cracking reply to my question mate, much appreciated.


31 Jan 2018 11:14:01
Milner definitely did a job, Mark. Agree on Gini never playing away from home, and on Mignolet never playing!

You're welcome Johncrow. Fingers crossed he sorts his injury troubles out, but if not we have to be ruthless.

Lancaster, I've also noticed how slow Can seems to be at times compared to others. Keita will be a huge upgrade in my opinion, purely because he's more mobile.


31 Jan 2018 11:17:22
@LancasterRed, I couldn't agree more with your first question there. Can seemed almost clumsy when he got the ball and pretty much telegraphed every move he made. He got lucky with his goal and the penalty against him was just daft, but I don't think he was man of the match. I am trying not to take too much away from him though, was a much better performance than his last game.

One thing that did strike me last night, we had nothing creative going on down the right side from midfield. Everything was being pushed down the left which just ends up making us a bit narrow and predictable. Aside from the absolutely obvious that we need some better defenders, and a new keeper (I am warming to Karius but still don't see him as the long term answer) I really think we need a strong creative midfielder. Ed's, seeing as he is a BVB player, would Klopp look to someone like Gonzalo Castro to fill that void? Meant to be highly rated and good at building attacks, which we seem a bit lacking in from midfield now?


31 Jan 2018 07:24:16
Ed01 and everyone else away from transfer talk what's your thoughts on taking away draws. Imagine 20 teams playing trying to win 38 games everytime they go onto that pitch. Can anyone else name me a sport where teams or individuals play for a draw or even celebrate when they do draw. For me it's only football.

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{Ed001's Note - isn't that part of its charm? That you get unsatisfying draws as well as miserable defeats and glorious victories adds to the allure of the game.}

31 Jan 2018 07:48:25
when a team like Swansea parks the bus, literally shuts us out for 90 minutes - I jsut think, you're bottom of the league, why don't you do that every week?


31 Jan 2018 08:06:39
Not for me Ed 01 mate. Watching teams park buses or play for a draw and then celebrate is everything that is wrong with a sport that is meant to be entertaining for spectators. I just think both teams trying to win a game from the 1st to the 90th minute would be amazing. Not being biased we do under Klopp so we don't really see it as much. But I very rarely watch other games now when I know beforehand both teams will happily take a draw. Just my opinion though enjoy the hectic posts that today will no doubt bring and keep up the amazing work this site brings 👍.


{Ed001's Note - I understand that, and I agree with what you are saying, however I really do think it is partly those frustrations that make the game so absorbing and addictive.}

31 Jan 2018 08:21:34
Taking away draws would probably ruin the premier league. Small teams can not be expected to compete with some of the bigger teams and if they can't try for a draw results would more than likely become more predictable. It's frustrating but it's what it is. They would probably park the bus anyway in and attempt to nick a win. That bus was still parked when we were 3 nil up last night sure.


31 Jan 2018 08:24:41
I agree Ed001. Would like to hear your views on VAR. Appologies if you’ve already given one. I’m not a fan as I believe controversial decisions also add to the spice of it all.


{Ed001's Note - but controversial decisions are also a good way to hide match fixing and corruption of the results. The addition of VAR makes that more difficult. That is why I feel it has to be made to work.}

31 Jan 2018 08:26:09
Get rid of relegation and swap prize money around from top to bottom. So 20th gets 1st prize money and so on.

Park the bus will stop and the game will simply even out.

It wouldn't go back style because the top clubs do have huge revenue still but imagine Brighton for example getting 120mil at the end of the campaign and no relegation.


31 Jan 2018 08:37:12
Fair point Ed001. I just think too much technology and too much money are taking the soul away from the game. I remember when it used to be about winning and trophies, not how big bank balances are.


31 Jan 2018 09:20:05
Jayden - in Cricket, teams often play for a draw. Rugby teams will settle for a draw in many circumstances, although considering the higher and less even nature of scoring it's much less often that they get the chance, but many teams will take a last minute penalty kick to score and draw rather than risk going for a try.

Other than that, I can't think of any major sport where going for a drawer is an option. I think maybe american football can but basketball, hockey, ice hockey, tennis, darts, badminton, pretty much all athletics and baseball only can based on the weather making it impossible to play. So the acceptability of those tactics isn't really portable to other sports because the rules of other sports! What is portable is that teams can build exceptionally tight defenses and force a game to be low scoring to compensate for low offensive capability.

Personally I'd never want to see my team play like that - I don't particularly care how our opposition play, I love sport for the entertainment and I'd struggle to watch my team not play with intent to win.


31 Jan 2018 09:50:42
I would say football is one of the only games where you can play for a draw due to the low scoring nature of the game.
You saying cricket teams and rugby teams go for a draw but is only a decision made at a certain part of the game, I. e a cricket team has zero chance of a win so digs in for a draw and with a kick in rugby it’s a percentage call, if it was football would you take a penalty for a draw or a corner and if you score you win? No brainer really.
The American sports have overtime so you can’t finish in a draw so it’s the only major sport you can really play for a draw and have success but if your good enough you should be able to break them down but for some reason we really struggle to do this.


31 Jan 2018 09:50:51
Kloppshop The so called smaller teams only play 6 top teams mate. The other 13 teams they play they would still have a chance of winning if they went for it. Even with draws in now the so called lesser teams normally get relegated so i don't really see the difference it would make there.
Hjikle i 100% disagree with Rugby teams play for a draw. No way in hell does any rugby team step onto that pitch aiming to draw it and cricket is a boring sport because of that.


31 Jan 2018 10:36:11
Corba - often cricket teams will make the call from the start, bowling as slow as possible without being fined and batting to build massive scores over high lengths of times by taking on zero risks. Depends who is playing who and what the situation is really. Rugby like I said erratic scoring rules make it rare but you do see it occasionally. But yes like you say, it's more common in football because it's more likely to get you where you want to be. let's face it, Portugal just won the Euro's by playing for a draw in every game - they didn't actually win a game until the knockout stage and only won 2/ 7 in normal time.


31 Jan 2018 10:39:50
Ed001, you mention the prevention of corruption of results and match fixing. excuse my ignorance but is this something that is a widespread problem? For some reasons I thought it was something that happened in lower leagues and foreign countries (Italy off the top of my head)
Are the powers that be worried that corruption of results happens more generally across the top leagues?
Cheers and apologies if you've already covered this I just find it fascinating.


{Ed001's Note - no one knows for sure. However there are so many ridiculous decisions etc they could easily be a bit of fixing. The English game is certainly not as clean as the FA would like to pretend it is. They cover up failed drugs tests etc, so how can we trust that they are keeping it clear of fixing too?}

31 Jan 2018 11:00:53
That's sounds like a rubbish yank idea ;) . Personally having been brought up a St Johnstone fan my whole life (local team) I love a draw. Nothing better than beating the old scum but sometimes when they spend the whole game banging about 100 shots towards the goal, a draw feel amazing to a minnow club. especially given my dad would never leave a game early so I sat through many a drubbing. 7-0 to rangers is one I particularly remember as we were in a mixed stand and the huns were leaving as much as 20mins early so my dad was given them cheak and got a few threats in return. I was crapping it haha.


31 Jan 2018 14:21:50
I actually think the park the bus strategies just adds to the diversity of the game - I enjoy watching Liverpool having to learn to take on different styles of opposition rather than everyone playing exactly the same way. Sometimes there’s a draw that feels like a victory and that’s part of the charm of the game.

Oh. just one exception. Mourinho. Anyone who has those resources and that much talent at his disposal and plays for a draw is just a bit disappointing.


31 Jan 2018 14:29:04
I always wonder how exactly a team fixes a match, like do they just play horrendously on purpose? Or like in penalties someone agrees to blaze it over?


31 Jan 2018 15:43:46
what I did see last night that I was happy about, was that with Huddersfield parking the bus, we pushed Robbo much higher up the left side, thus giving us more width,
its a big factor in breaking these teams down, so I hope that we use this tactic more often .


31 Jan 2018 18:15:06
4 pts for a win,1 for a draw might encourage more open attacking games, that was the thinking when it when it went to 3 pts I think.


31 Jan 2018 07:17:22
I actually think the midfield works better with hendo, happy he is back in the fold.

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31 Jan 2018 08:04:34
much maligned is Hendo, made a big difference last night.


31 Jan 2018 08:23:30
I believe him being absent a few years ago under BR didn't help with us just missing out to Man City.


31 Jan 2018 08:27:00
You mean we Henri supporters have all been proved right.

You only realise what he does when he is gone.

Captain is back now.


31 Jan 2018 09:54:05
Weren't we on this 18 game unbeaten run with out him for the majority of it though. Amazing how people shift goal posts so they can force their opinion onto others and make themselves look right. Hendo played well last night can we not just leave it at that. Rather than suggest we only lost 2 games because he didn't play.


31 Jan 2018 14:48:05
Hendo did play well last night but we were playing a very poor Huddersfield team. Even my granny could've played in that midfield.
Having said that I would start him on Sunday against Spurs.
Let's hope he continues playing well and also injury free.


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{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 31st January 2018

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31 Jan 2018 06:26:49
If spurs lose tonight and then again against us on the weekend, the gap to top 4 will be 8 points.

Should they throw in the towel? According to many on here we might as well fold no?

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31 Jan 2018 07:04:29
Hang on 87, that can't be right surely? Just 24 hours ago you'd have though we were in a relegation battle.


31 Jan 2018 07:22:08
And to think when we lose a game it's all doom and gloom. Good job after we win 1 we don't get carried away 🤦🏻‍♂. It was a cracking win, let's just take 1 game at a time. Spurs next.


31 Jan 2018 07:32:18
I know burkey! I love the disagree monsters as well who can’t bring themselves to actually defend their childish posts over the last few days. Cheer up lads, top 4 is still easily on!


31 Jan 2018 07:45:14
You love that face palm emoji Jayden.

I’m not getting carried away in the slightest. I don’t get too excited when we win and I don’t get too defeatist when we lose. I hate it when we lose but I don’t then decide our season is over. I’m merely pointing out that people shouldn’t be so keen to write us off.


31 Jan 2018 08:03:15
Guess it depends if you think that losing in the manner that we did in the two previous games was acceptable and that suddenly that one win puts right all of the deficiencies that are present in the squad, because it doesn’t. Spurs is much more of a test and will not be anywhere near as easy. We are still on course for another trophyless season and there is still a good chance that we could finish outside top four, given that our weaknesses are easy to exploit.


31 Jan 2018 08:09:57
87red I have the emoji on speed button mate. I totally agree with what your saying but who cares if people are doom and gloom or if they get carried away after a win. It's their own personal opinion. People seem to take it so personal if someone doesn't share their view. Football debate is what is great about the sport.


31 Jan 2018 09:00:52
Mr Dennis, your definitely a glass half empty type of guy. You cannot win every game or play well every game. We were poor against Swansea yet still had 4 unreal chances to score. They had 2 shots. West Brom was really poor but a lot was down to Moreno who should not be anywhere near the team.

You constantly moan about our midfielders. I agree to a point as there are no world class players there but Henderson for one is a quality player and one who when in the side makes us a better team. We have made huge progress over the past 2 years and will continue to strengthen in the summer. We are level on points with Chelsea and have Arsenal and City out of the way for the rest of the season, spurs too after Sunday.

Support your team and stop being so negative day in day out .


31 Jan 2018 04:25:41
Eds, complete hypothetically here. What would your opinions be on the league being decided entirely on goal difference? It wouldn't change much at the top (in most seasons) but it would make the relegation battle so much more interesting. Plus it would encourage more attacking play and teams couldn't just give up once they conceded. Not that it would ever happen but would you be for or against an idea like that?

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{Ed001's Note - it would be far more open to abuse than the current system, who is going to know whether a team just folded or tried too hard to get back into a game and so ended up conceding lots of goals?}

31 Jan 2018 07:17:26
Bonus points would be a good idea perhaps. 1 extra for 3 goals scored for example?


31 Jan 2018 09:24:40
Defenders and goalkeepers don't deserve to be marginalised by the rules of the game. Watching Maldini intercept a charge downfield with a perfectly timed tackle was every bit as breathtaking as watching Messi jink past 4 defenders. Why would you want to make attackers so much more important than defenders and just turn football matches into ping pong tournaments.


31 Jan 2018 04:22:42
Thought the energy levels of the team were much better against Huddersfield, more urgency though still, at moments, lacking in quality. Never the less 3-0 away from home will take that all day long - very important to bounce back and the team have, hopefully Karius really retains the number 1 spot now, it is clear he is miles better than Mignolet and that the defenders actually have some confidence in him, he must be first pick until the end of the season at the very least.

BT Sports commentary were also saying our second goal was poor goalkeeping - personally thought it was just a very clever finish from Firmino.

Big worry for me is Mane - is it me or has he lost some pace (or perhaps its confidence)? Seems an absolute shadow of the player that he was last season - is it possible for the sort of injury he sustained last season to impact a players pace and acceleration in such a way? I really hope not as I have a lot of time for the guy, just seems to be struggling in most games he plays at the minute.

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31 Jan 2018 06:16:41
If Migs or karius had let that goal in at the near post the pundits would 100% have called it a goal keeping error. I agree with you that Firmino’s finish was cute but at least the pundits are being consistent.

Re Mane he nearly scored two headers tonight by being a yard faster. If they’d have gone in no one would be saying anything. It’s a game of margins. He’ll be back firing soon.


31 Jan 2018 06:37:09
Don't worry too much about Mane.


31 Jan 2018 06:50:29
Mane has been recorded sprinting faster than any other LFC player this season. Currently the 15th fastest recorded player in the league. I do think that he's either lacking a little in confidence or his 1 minute substitute appearance against Chelsea has changed his attitude slightly.


31 Jan 2018 07:00:59
This site would go ballistic if we conceded that second goal. When we score we only ever consider what our attack did, when we concede we only consider what our defence did. How good or bad the opposition was rarely comes into it.


31 Jan 2018 07:03:10
Fair point that stoneage if it was our goalkeeper they'd be getting roasted so perhaps consistent (though not necessarily fair) . I hope you are both right about Mane, I really like the guy as a player and as a person off the pitch, seems very grounded, so hope he rediscovers his quality as I really want him to do well.


31 Jan 2018 07:16:41
Why is everyone giving mane a hard time. I thought last night he showed attacking intent and made good runs. Both headers were not gimmes but at least he is getting in a position to score. It seems everyone needs a scapegoat and the “supporters” have collectively chosen mane. Give it a rest.


31 Jan 2018 09:27:34
If you get beaten by that angle from anything that goes between you and the post, it's poor goalkeeping. It was also a great finish, a tiny hole to get it through and enough power not to let the keeper rectify their positioning error but still poor keeping - just line Sane's goal against us.

Mane is having a tough time at the moment but with his injuries, he was bound to suffer in form sometime. He's still doing enough to justify selection though, you can tell from some flashes of his old self and his goals early january that his ability it bubbling under the surface and will explode back into life any daynow.


31 Jan 2018 11:11:12
Stoneage, no more use of the word 'cute' in reference to anything a out football please. It is the most caring word that has ever been introduced into commentary. Makes me wanna rip my TV off the wall. Nothing in football is cute. Well unless we're taking about that ex Chelsea physio. Funnily enough it was introduced about then haha. Probabky talking about her of mic then it slipped out after a goal and boom they all use it now.


31 Jan 2018 13:38:51
Hjke not sure whether you’re praisingthe finish or not. The thing everyone should notice is it was precisely done. He gave that keeper the eyes the entire time for a cut back. And he probably has 2cm either side where it would have been stopped. No power, just an amazing, thought out finish.


31 Jan 2018 01:52:27
Any chance of a match review please Ed1? when you get a moment of course. I only got to see half of the game due to my son kicking off lol.

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate will do it today when I get a chance.}

31 Jan 2018 08:41:04
Cheers Ed1 mate, appreciated.


{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, might take a while though as the sites are soooooo busy and I am still trying to get the match previews for tonight done.}

31 Jan 2018 09:00:09
Of course mate, even if you can't do one it's all good, must be one of the busiest days of the year. Good luck mate lol.


{Ed001's Note - if I don't get it done today I will do it tomorrow, don't worry.}

 
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