Liverpool Banter Archive December 31 2010

 

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31 Dec 2010 23:56:34
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Ed i just read part of the Times article on Hodgson. I don't usually believe any of the media sh*t but i've been reading rumours on here all day about it. Could there be somthing in these rumours?

Blair Mayne YNWA

PS. Happy new year everyone and Ed's. Hope 2011 is better for us than 2010.

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31 Dec 2010 23:50:46
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According to the mirror
we are closing in to Yann M'Vila & Sylvain Marveauz

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31 Dec 2010 23:48:28
Why would we want to sign marveaux when we can sign Hasard for a bit more money, and is a better player and younger then marveaux. NESV have deep pockets don't they? ?

Roy should look at the following players
Young
Honda
and new left and right fullbacks because johnson doesn't look like he wants to play for LFC and Koncesky isn't up to it
and wat about Gignac, is he better than Hoarau?

Big Jimbo
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Marveaux is supposedly costing £1.5m, Hazard would probably cost about £18-20m. "A bit more money"?

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31 Dec 2010 23:48:02
Thank god the window opens tomorrow, then we can get on with not signing anybody until the last day again. There will be no "BIG" signings, unless we get a bargain, but that's not gonna happen. No manager could get them playing at the moment, the're all feeling sorry for themselves, also agree with the poster who critizised the manager for splitting up Mereles and Lucas.
We need a big injection of confidence, What worries me though is that i've got that terrible Nottingham Forest feeling.

Sooty

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31 Dec 2010 23:47:24
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A happy new year to all reeds & eds hope are great club is great again, from a true red.

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31 Dec 2010 23:43:50
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It has been decided that Roy Hodgsons services are no longer needed at Liverpool. He will again be given the option to resign and leave with minewt amount of dignity and if he refuses then he will be sacked. The news will break AFTER the Bolton match tomorrow. Kenny Dalglish will be appointed as part time manager until summer. A large budget will be given to the new manager who will be either Didier Deschamps or Andre Villas Boas who will be the successor to Kenny. Finally Sammi Hyypia will return as coaching staff.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
As much as i want this to happen , its balls , how the hell would you know this ay? , Carp!

The Times is an online subscription paper but you can clearly see they are reporting time is up for roy just can't see when does anyone have a subscription?

{Editor's Note: It is rubbish.}"

Sorry, which are you labelling rubbish, the lad's story posted here or Tony Barrett's article (or possibly both). Boardman seems convinced by the piece in The Times.

Fair enough ed i get that it was the times bit i agreed on just wondering how reliable the times is for liverpool rumours they are reporting he has gone what do you think and who do you think the next manager should be i like the idea of the lad from porto young and something different

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31 Dec 2010 23:39:15
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Why would we want to sign marveaux when we can sign Hasard for a bit more money, and is a better player and younger then marveaux. NESV have deep pockets don't they? ?

Roy should look at the following players
Young
Honda
and new left and right fullbacks because johnson doesn't look like he wants to play for LFC and Koncesky isn't up to it
and wat about Gignac, is he better than Hoarau?

Big Jimbo

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31 Dec 2010 23:38:04
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Good news for lfc fans 2010 is nearly over, but the bad news is here comes 2011 with the clueless old man in charge, a pretty p* s poor squad and no big signings in january, mint.

MansfieldRED

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31 Dec 2010 23:37:36
Liverpool fans I am Roy Hodgson, I understand your emotions and fury at the failure of me and the team, my son told me to come on this and explain transfers to you, Babel is leaving and we are getting Elia also Torres is fully committed, we are selling Poulsen, Cole and Jovanovic and buying Marveaux, Horau, Honda and Wolfwinkel, how ever these all depend on the above players being sold to balance our wage budget, please we need your support and we will beat Bolton, to all a Happy New years Eve.

What a load of bollox, I don't believe a word of it, I'm sitting here on the sofa with Abraham Lincoln, Albert Einstein and Buzz Aldrin laughing my he*kin head off,

Sooty

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31 Dec 2010 23:37:00
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They should seriously consider looking into Amauri he'd be a great partner for torres, dah roy must spend!

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31 Dec 2010 23:16:05
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All LIVERPOOL Fans will be disapointed with our JAN dealings as NESV prove thay have very deep pockets and very short arms.
AND WE THINK ITS BAD NOW!

Your talking rubbish maybe we won't spend a lot in jan but it says nothing about nesv they spend millions on baseball players stop talking rubbish

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31 Dec 2010 23:12:56
To have wingers in your team in the real meaning of a winger ( someone who stays out wide & provides crosses), you would need an Alan Shearer type playing for you. I'm not too sure if it actually would suit Torres game. But that is for another day!
But for now I'd like to wish everyone a happy new year, & hopefully a more successful new year on the pitch. Something we can shout about, because it's been a while & I think we are due it.
A special bit of praise to all the of the Eds who give us a outlet to vent our frustrations ( sometimes waranted & sometimes not) at the nonsense we have had to endure over the last few years. Thanks gents!

The Irish Rover {ed's note - I would like to say it has been a pleasure, but this last year has been far from pleasurable on the football front!}

Yes I'd admit that Torres game isn't with this arial strength. I think he would work well with a striker who is arial strong and can get knock ons to Torres. I don't mean hoof the ball towards him. I mean try to get the ball in good crossing positions so we can deliver a good ball into the box. But we would need 2 wingers and a striker. My choice for wingers would be N'zogbia and Hazard and a striker I would go for Llorente/ Carroll. Okay time to get back to reality. Cheap signings like Marveaux. Ed do you think that we will get couple cheapish signings in January then in the summer we can get a world class signing like hazard/ Sanchez with a new manager. {ed's note - I think that is the most likely thing.}

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We don't need a lot actually. . . . . .

We need a genuine natural winger and an inverted winger. . . plus we have Maxi and Kuyt. . . so throw out Joe Cole and Babel. . . .

We need a striker who can cover for Torres

We need a central defensive midfielder (with box to box qualities) as cover for Meirelles and Lucas. . . .

And finally the BEST position for Gerrard is behind Torres in the hole playing the creator plus trigger puller role. . . Thats his BEST position. . If he doesn't like it there, he should quit Liverpool. . . simple. . . His team needs him there. . .

Did you see the Wolves match? People are blaming Hodgson and Torres but has anybody thought why were we not able to get the ball out of the defence?? . . . . It was supposed to be done by Gerrard but he was just ABSENT from the game. . .Meirelles (when played there) would often collect the ball from defence and distribute to the guys infront of him. . . .

But Gerrard is incapable of doing that role because his passing range and quality is not as good as Alonso or Meirelles. . Needless to say why Benitez preferred Alonso to him for that CM role. . . .

Hodgson should not have disturbed the Meirelles-Lucas combo and should have gone for 4-2-3-1. . .But he favoured individuals over system and team and thus SIGNED HIS OWN SACK WARRANT. . .

It was all about tactics and he was found wanting (AGAIN). . . .

Pritam

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31 Dec 2010 23:11:58
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Liverpool fans I am Roy Hodgson, I understand your emotions and fury at the failure of me and the team, my son told me to come on this and explain transfers to you, Babel is leaving and we are getting Elia also Torres is fully committed, we are selling Poulsen, Cole and Jovanovic and buying Marveaux, Horau, Honda and Wolfwinkel, how ever these all depend on the above players being sold to balance our wage budget, please we need your support and we will beat Bolton, to all a Happy New years Eve.

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31 Dec 2010 22:58:25
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Meeting at 8am in he morning, on New Years Day? I find that very hard to believe. Are the Americans even in the country? Don't get me wrong, I hope you're right but I just can't see it happening.

As fir the other rumour about the Bolton game being Roys last, what's your source? Where are you getting this info from?

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31 Dec 2010 22:54:11
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An 8am meeting tomorrow, on New Years Day? I find that hard to believe. Are the Americans even in the country? Don't get me wrong, I hope you're right bit I just can't see it.

As for the previous rumours about the Bolton game being his last where are you getting this info from? What's your source?

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31 Dec 2010 22:38:15
Can you name me a big team that does well without any wingers? {ed's note - Barcelona, they don't play with any wingers at all.}
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For me Messi, Pedro and Boyan are wingers. Villa is a striker. {ed's note - Pedro and Bojan are strikers and Messi is no winger, Villa spends more time out wide than he does.}

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31 Dec 2010 22:29:12
31 Dec 2010 22:04:43
To have wingers in your team in the real meaning of a winger ( someone who stays out wide & provides crosses), you would need an Alan Shearer type playing for you. I'm not too sure if it actually would suit Torres game. But that is for another day!
But for now I'd like to wish everyone a happy new year, & hopefully a more successful new year on the pitch. Something we can shout about, because it's been a while & I think we are due it.
A special bit of praise to all the of the Eds who give us a outlet to vent our frustrations ( sometimes waranted & sometimes not) at the nonsense we have had to endure over the last few years. Thanks gents!

The Irish Rover {ed's note - I would like to say it has been a pleasure, but this last year has been far from pleasurable on the football front!}

Yes I'd admit that Torres game isn't with this arial strength. I think he would work well with a striker who is arial strong and can get knock ons to Torres. I don't mean hoof the ball towards him. I mean try to get the ball in good crossing positions so we can deliver a good ball into the box. But we would need 2 wingers and a striker. My choice for wingers would be N'zogbia and Hazard and a striker I would go for Llorente/ Carroll. Okay time to get back to reality. Cheap signings like Marveaux. Ed do you think that we will get couple cheapish signings in January then in the summer we can get a world class signing like hazard/ Sanchez with a new manager. {ed's note - I think that is the most likely thing.}

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31 Dec 2010 22:27:10
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If Paul Furlong is not an option what about Darren Ferguson?

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31 Dec 2010 22:26:24
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Oh my god how many times does it need saying THERE IS NO TRANSFER BUDGET. ALL PLAYERS WILL BE SIGNED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS USING CRITERIA ALREADY DISCUSSED ON HERE i.e age, potential and marketability. Thats why Marveaux has been looked at because Comolli has suggested that signing him would a financial no brainer as he has potential to be a good player and is incredibly cheap. EVERY SINGLE PLAYER THAT WE SIGN UNDER NESV WILL BE PURCHASED IN THIS WAY. NESV don't know enough about football to make the decisons on player recruitment by themselves but i also doubt they're foolish enough to give either Hodgson or Comolli free rein to sign whoever they want.
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I don't know what's happening, facts are, no-one does. But there's bound to be some sort of outline or limit as to what we can do. I mean, Camolli isn't going to be allowed to go into the market, and sign four or five players at £20m each, even if they do have loads of potential and marketing potential. We should get used to the likes of Marveaux and Horaru (sp.), and forget the likes of Mata or Llorente.

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31 Dec 2010 22:16:12
Speaking to a few Rennes fans on Youtube who tell me that Sylvain Marveaux is a waste of space. According to them, his work-rate is terrible and he is extremly lazy at times. Also a flash in the pan who lacks consistency. Suppose it is understandable why Man Utd and Chelsea chose not to follow up an interest.

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31 Dec 2010 22:04:43
To have wingers in your team in the real meaning of a winger ( someone who stays out wide & provides crosses), you would need an Alan Shearer type playing for you. I'm not too sure if it actually would suit Torres game. But that is for another day!
But for now I'd like to wish everyone a happy new year, & hopefully a more successful new year on the pitch. Something we can shout about, because it's been a while & I think we are due it.
A special bit of praise to all the of the Eds who give us a outlet to vent our frustrations ( sometimes waranted & sometimes not) at the nonsense we have had to endure over the last few years. Thanks gents!

The Irish Rover {ed's note - I would like to say it has been a pleasure, but this last year has been far from pleasurable on the football front!}

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31 Dec 2010 22:04:20
Lavers, I know what you mean but i just can't bring myself to want my team to lose! I know we won't make the Champs league with Roy but i worry (as i have posted before) that NESV at the moment do not have aback up plan. . except maybe the Eds! ;)

Calired

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31 Dec 2010 21:46:32
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Why did liverpool oan out daniel ayala he sould be our first choice defender hes brilliant.

this is how the team should look

reina

kelly carra ayala marveaux/ agger

kuyt lucas/ meireles gerrard maxi - - get cole in every now and then

Torres and hopefully a future forward to accompany him
any realistic suggestions ed,

we should sign Joaquin from valencia 9m and hes brilliant! what do you also make of this ed

Oh and not to foget MY TEAM!

thanks ED {ed's note - Agger is not a left back, Kuyt is a terrible right winger, but there is not a lot else you can do with the squad. I like Joaquin myself, doubt we will buy him though.}

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31 Dec 2010 21:39:47
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Ed when we were children our mothers used to tell us not everything you don't like isn't good for you. I believe that with Rafa. Maybe some players didn't like him but he was good for some especially Torres. Players will. Want to play for coaches like Benitez. And Mourinho not hodgson. Also people keep sayin Torres and Reina handed in Transfer request not true if they did. It would be on sky sports plus. It would give us a large amount to strenghthen

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31 Dec 2010 21:33:42
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I am sure this DUCULA poster has had more than his fair share of stick tonight so come on people leave him alone he is obviously a manc a blue or a bit backward. But if he is genuine then he is obviously one of the many thousands of so called L.F.C. fans who have only ever been on the anfield museum tour and not to an actual game. Come back with those comments COUNT DUCULA when you have paid out nearly £800 for a season ticket before a ball has been kicked. We have and always will have the best and most fair minded supporters in WORLD FOOTBALL, far be it from us to criticise people who are abusing our club and being paid millions for the privalige.

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31 Dec 2010 21:28:12
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Do you all think that hodgston looks like penguin from the batman movie?

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31 Dec 2010 21:24:47
KhalanLFC

her source is from the players. it seem legit (i hope:) thanks to her for saying it as well.
there are other tweets on her page as well. click on 'in reply to' under her other tweets.


Harry5:)YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 21:23:04
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Happy new year to all reds lets hope its a good un, i.e Woy gets the sack.
Nice guy n all that carp but he is a league 2 manager hence the football the lads play under him!

Dont think we're gunna sign any1 special in Jan its gunna be mediocre carp like we've already got! I expect players such as SWP - he was a good player or so he looked at city before they got a stuidly rich owner, he was a big fish (although very small) in a small pond! He would be good for us in terms of the fact he is a wide player and has more pace than kuyt. . just!
Carlton cole - i won't go there what a waste of space.
Hope honda comes i think he will give that extra dimension to the team and also hope marveoux (sp) and horau (sp) come they would be good as well.
I expect a cheeky bid for lescott and shawcross as our backline is a major problem with skrtle the ninja turtle. never seen a defender as bad and the greek very poor i think that pony tail hoolds him back!
I doubt any first teamers will leave i.e agger, torres and lucas or maxi (just the few to have been rumoured to leave!) hopefully with new additions in width pace and attacking football which would mean no Woy its good times ahead! I will be manager if we need one for the short term! Lol would do a better job than the current muppet in charge!

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31 Dec 2010 21:20:26
The so called tweets .
These are the only people i found when i searched for it:

KhalanLFC and shahrimtamrin

Harry5:)YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 21:20:15
Really annoys me when people want us to lose or draw just to get Roy fired. I am not a fan of his AT ALL but i would rather we win every game, get into champs league and then get rid of him in the summer as planned. Be logical - Makes no sense to want us to lose.


Calired
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Hiya pal I to would rather we did what u have wrote above but we all know this is not going to happen with roy in charge.
That is why I put that earlier. The pain needs to end so I think a lose tomorrow then it could be all over.

LAVERS

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31 Dec 2010 21:20:26
The so called tweets .
These are the only people i found when i searched for it:

KhalanLFC and shahrimtamrin

Harry5:)YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 21:20:15
Really annoys me when people want us to lose or draw just to get Roy fired. I am not a fan of his AT ALL but i would rather we win every game, get into champs league and then get rid of him in the summer as planned. Be logical - Makes no sense to want us to lose.


Calired
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Hiya pal I to would rather we did what u have wrote above but we all know this is not going to happen with roy in charge.
That is why I put that earlier. The pain needs to end so I think a lose tomorrow then it could be all over.

LAVERS

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31 Dec 2010 21:03:42
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I agree Ed. They could move with pace and width and all for about 30 mill.These 2 players that could make a difference. I even think cole would fit into this as a impact player coming off the bench(a little like the gooners do with Rosicky and/ or Denilson for Arshavin and/ or Nasri) Ed to be next head coach.

{Editor's Note: Thanks, but I am happy with my Head Coach role at Real Madrid.}

They are all central players (expect arshavin) who likes to cut inside. Aren't you forgetting Walcott who hugs the touchline. That's there width. Sure they move around but they always have a outlet in Walcott. {ed's note - Walcott never hugs the touchline! He plays mostly centrally as a striker, when he plays wide he just cuts in all the time, he is as much a line-hugging winger as Thierry Henry was for Arsenal.}

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Arsenal play a 4-2-3-1 with the 2-3 interchangeable. Could technically be a 4-3-3 but either way its a wide setup with good full back support from sagna and clichy/ gibbs.

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nasri- - cesc- -arshavin
- - Chamahk/ van Persie

Rosicki comes off the bench as does Wallcott most of the time.

Same as Mouluda make Chelski more of a 4-3-3

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31 Dec 2010 21:00:41
{ed's note - I think you are forgetting that width comes from players getting out wide in space. Liverpool has played with wingers for years and yet had no width, why do you think playing wingers is the only answer to providing it?}

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What do wingers do, offer width. What do we need, wingers who can get past a player and get crosses in. We are playing with wingers but they are not the sort of wingers we need. They are players who cut inside.

Okay let's make a little vote here.

Which team would you rather have for next season

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Johnson-Kelly-Agger-Auerlio- Kelly-Ayala-Agger-Auerlio- -
- - - - - - Lucas- - - - - - - - - - - - Meireles- - - - - -
- - - Meireles-Gerrard- - - - - - Gerrard- Honda- - - -
Hazard- - Torres- -Sanchez- - - - - - Sanchez- - - - - -
- - - -Torres-Llorente- - - -

Believable for team on left and unbelievable for team on right. The team on right would cost more as well.

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31 Dec 2010 20:58:05
Hope we're not going to sign all these Frenchies in the next few years. I know Camolli knows the French league well but there is quality in other leagues. Don't want a French revolution at Anfield.

And Happy New Year to everyone. Lets hope we all have a safe and health stricken New Year and lets hope we all prosper. May God Bless each and everyone one of us this New Year's Eve and next year.

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31 Dec 2010 20:56:30
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"I hope it isn't true. Or as you say, just a power play by the duo to get Roy out now."

Unfortunately that's exactly the wrong thing to think. Any manager or board that ever backs down to player-power is finished on the spot. If a subordinate ever calls your bluff, no matter how good they are, you get rid on the spot. So if that is what Reina and Torres have done, you could be in a position where both of them are binned and Woy ends up staying.

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31 Dec 2010 20:56:11
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Hate it when there is uncertainty over the transfer window. Hopefully the budget will be passed to Damien Comillio while there is no one in the job.

1. Marveaux
2. Gervinho
3. Cahill
= £30mil

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31 Dec 2010 20:55:13
31 Dec 2010 20:27:39
Really annoys me when people want us to lose or draw just to get Roy fired. I am not a fan of his AT ALL but i would rather we win every game, get into champs league and then get rid of him in the summer as planned. Be logical - Makes no sense to want us to lose.

Calired
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Yea i'd rather be married to Angelina Jolie and have Jennifer Aniston as my bit on the side mate. But just like us getting CL football it an't gona happen.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 20:47:07
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Correct me if i'm wrong here but if Roy resigns he gets a little golden handshake. If he gets fired then his contract has to negotiated into his severance. Some people like to save face and resign and the terms are never disclosed or anything derogatory said about them. He hardly need the cash but his England dreams just went up in smoke here also. Resign Plz Roy.

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31 Dec 2010 20:42:51
I agree Ed. They could move with pace and width and all for about 30 mill.These 2 players that could make a difference. I even think cole would fit into this as a impact player coming off the bench(a little like the gooners do with Rosicky and/ or Denilson for Arshavin and/ or Nasri) Ed to be next head coach.

They are all central players (expect arshavin) who likes to cut inside. Aren't you forgetting Walcott who hugs the touchline. That's there width. Sure they move around but they always have a outlet in Walcott. {ed's note - Walcott never hugs the touchline! He plays mostly centrally as a striker, when he plays wide he just cuts in all the time, he is as much a line-hugging winger as Thierry Henry was for Arsenal.}

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31 Dec 2010 20:40:41
Why don't we try and buy lavezzi of napoli he is jus like tevez
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Excuse me, but my Ezequiel does not have greasy hair, a chipped front tooth or his head sewn on backwards.
Signed
Mrs Levezzi

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31 Dec 2010 20:38:42
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I feel Kenny could not come back as the number 1 the manager, but feel his presence on the bench as a number 2 instead of Sammy Lea may bring a new dimension, it may give everyone the lift we all need to crack on and get our season going again. .

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31 Dec 2010 20:35:26
{ed's note - why not? Sanchez, Torres, Gerrard, Honda and Meireles are all able to move into space, all of them are comfortable on the ball and can cross.}

Ed, I think we're forgetting one very important thing. In la liga you get a lot more room to play in the pl. In the pl there is no space is move. Wondered why the teams who do well have lots of width. Look at tottenham, have so much width and they score goals for fun. {ed's note - I think you are forgetting that width comes from players getting out wide in space. Liverpool has played with wingers for years and yet had no width, why do you think playing wingers is the only answer to providing it?}

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31 Dec 2010 20:31:57
You want us to play like Barcelona (find space and drift around the pitch), but we couldn't do it nearly as well as them. {ed's note - why not? Sanchez, Torres, Gerrard, Honda and Meireles are all able to move into space, all of them are comfortable on the ball and can cross.}

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I agree Ed. They could move with pace and width and all for about 30 mill.These 2 players that could make a difference. I even think cole would fit into this as a impact player coming off the bench(a little like the gooners do with Rosicky and/ or Denilson for Arshavin and/ or Nasri) Ed to be next head coach.

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31 Dec 2010 20:27:39
Really annoys me when people want us to lose or draw just to get Roy fired. I am not a fan of his AT ALL but i would rather we win every game, get into champs league and then get rid of him in the summer as planned. Be logical - Makes no sense to want us to lose.

Calired

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31 Dec 2010 20:24:26
The Liverpool Rumours website from 1959.

Some guy called Bill Shankly is now our manager. Would have preferred a higher profile manager. He will probably be useless.

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31 Dec 2010 20:13:13
Liverpool Rumours
Frank Rikjard as next LFC manager.

He is the only out of work manager at the moment that has the name and credentials to keep big name players such as Torres and Reina at LFC, along with attracting quality players to sign for LFC.

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31 Dec 2010 20:11:55
"We are in a shambles because Rafa left us in a shambles" "O'Neill has left Villa in a shambles"

Err, it is possible that these clubs are now in a shambles BECAUSE these guys have left. They did manage to hold it all together when they were there, and now they have left, guess what?

Had to laugh at Warnock and Ireland saying how much they disliked Oneill's, but enjoyed Kevin Macdonald's style lol. Hope they're pissing themselves now

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31 Dec 2010 20:10:24
It doesn't even have attacking fullbacks to make up for the lack of width. {ed's note - there is no lack of width, Barca play with no wingers, Villa is often the widest player, every player is just told to go where the space is. That is what I would do, no need to stand in a particular position, just pass the ball and move into space to receive a pass. It is simple but it worked for Liverpool in the past.}

Barcelona's formation is 433 while yours is 442 diamond shape. Their players have the ability to find space and are able to play out in the wings better then us.

Their team

- - - - - - -Valdes- - - - -
Alves- - -Puyol- -pique- - abidal
- - - - - - Busquets- - - - - -
- - - - -Xavi- - iniesta- - - - -
Messi- - - -Villa- - - - Bojan- -

That team has far more width. Even though messi and bojan cut inside they still have 2 very attacking full backs.

You want us to play like Barcelona (find space and drift around the pitch), but we couldn't do it nearly as well as them. {ed's note - why not? Sanchez, Torres, Gerrard, Honda and Meireles are all able to move into space, all of them are comfortable on the ball and can cross.}

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31 Dec 2010 20:10:16
How likely is insua to return in january beause he is a massive improvement in konchesky

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31 Dec 2010 20:01:00
". . Duckula


ps sorry for the essay i got a little carried away there and i can't be bothered to cut it down. . ."

Don't worry mate, no one'll read it anyway after the first line.


Well I definitely read it all, and very much enjoyed it. Thanks Duckula, I couldn't have put it anywhere near as well as that. I think something stinks at the club, and I think we need a strong minded 'broom' through the place.

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31 Dec 2010 19:53:41
Liverpool Rumours
"""""""I think Cara should be Appointed as the next manager let's face it his best days are over on the pitch. Then let camoli take care of the transfers. Maybe get someone with a bit more Experience as his number 2 like Phil Thompson. What do u think?

{Editor's Note: Not a chance, hopefully.}

Editor - why do you say that so strongly? is it Carra personally or just his lack of experience?

{Editor's Note: No experience; sentiment is no reason to chose a manager.}"""""""

I don't agree with him mate, but surely Kenny was originally appointed under similar circumstances?

DaveyBootle. {ed's note - yes but Kenny had Paisley to guide him, I know Kenny would be there for Carra but he has been out of the game for years.}""""
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Imagine a performance like the other night vs Wolves and JC as manager. We wouldn't be able to field a team against Bolton with all the players in Emergency Room (ask Arbeloa). He'd make the Fergie hairdryer rumour seem like a fairytale. Passion Yes. Commitment Yes. Ready for such a big role, NO. PNE job for 3 or 4 years and see is the type of scenario that would be good but no for the BIGGEST club in the World

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31 Dec 2010 19:50:30
Liverpool Rumours
After being at the match on Wednesday, we are clearly lacking in a lot of places, I think skyrtel and kiriakos play ok when next to Jamie, but together they seem lost. What's your opinions on going for Chris Samba in January given he's fallen out with Blackburn. I think he could be a good addition to the squad, He's still only 26 i think so has a good 4 or 5 year contract left in him, he is strong, quick and can score goals to which i feel is something we lack with our central defenders.

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31 Dec 2010 19:47:53
Can you name me a big team that does well without any wingers? {ed's note - Barcelona, they don't play with any wingers at all.}

Well bojan and messi play more wide then anyone does in your formation. Plus also they have the world greatest players to make up for that. Playing without wingers does not work, fact.

This is your formation

- - - - - - - - Renia- - - - - - -
Kelly- - Ayala- - Agger- - Auerlio
- - - - - - -Meireles- - - - - - -
- - - -Gerrard- -Honda- - - - - -
- - - - - - Sanchez- - - - - - - -
- - - - Torres- -Llorente- - - - -

It doesn't even have attacking fullbacks to make up for the lack of width. {ed's note - there is no lack of width, Barca play with no wingers, Villa is often the widest player, every player is just told to go where the space is. That is what I would do, no need to stand in a particular position, just pass the ball and move into space to receive a pass. It is simple but it worked for Liverpool in the past.}

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31 Dec 2010 19:47:19
The best Midfield I have seen at Anfield R Kennady T mcdermott G souness Jimmy Case not a winger in sight.everyone of them could score goals and win games.

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31 Dec 2010 19:43:24
Liverpool Rumours
Iam generally worried about this arsenal template we r entering into i think youngsters are the way to go for sure but i don't see a manager to coach and mould these young starlets in wenger arsenal found a man with a vision on how he wanted his football to be played an identity it was loosly based on obviously barcelona and the dutch format that johan cruyff introduced there, but that is the football side of it the exciting visual side i believe our owners are only looking at business side and how much they can make on profitable young players either brought through the club or bought from smaller clubs for lesser money to an eventual sale it sounds to me like a ajax bring and buy sale format they want and to be honest which is great for the balance sheet but what about the fans and the club are we gonna see theses hopefully great youngsters stay with us or be sold at the first big bid to come in we will wait and see.

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31 Dec 2010 19:34:21
Liverpool Rumours
Fellow lfc fan as life long fan i am highly disapointed
with the way our club is at the moment alot of things have gone wrong in the last few mounths/ years

1)rafa's departure(reason new board. fresh start should have stayed.
2)get rid of sammy lee (bitter man sacked by lfc then tacken back on as a favoir
3)the selling of xabi alonso

what now needs to happen
1) sack roy bring in kenny
2) bring in phil tompson for (motivation)
3) rush/ fowler strickers coach
4) hanson as defensive coach ( has stated that he would relish the chance
5)john aldreage as asistant.
bring back the dressing room we WILL play well.

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31 Dec 2010 19:33:36
Duckula

Doesn't bother me mate! Nothing on here is personally insulting really we all just give opinions and hope somehow we show some sort of improvement. Seems nobody has a definite answer like but of course you are right in a perfect World the team should always be supported. I don't believe the gripe is with the team though.

Happy New Year.

Spriggo

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31 Dec 2010 19:33:31
What if roy changed his ways, started playing 433 putting players in their right positions he must know now how all the fans feel, i will be interested to see against bolton, if he does and we trounce them will we give him a chance?im also sorry for the way konchesky was treated i know it was heat of the moment and his mum has a big mouth and it must have taken guts for him to even walk on the pitch knowing what reception he could have and indeed did get, for that part im ashamed as he is one of our players, my saying in life has always been(may today my words be sweet for tomorrow i may be eating them, )while players wear the shirt we should support them, its a new yr tomorrow fenway know how we all feel, i would like us to get behind the team now and show the world we still are the best fans in the world, heres to a happy new yr to all reds, jimmybosun, ps it is not roy in disguise, lol

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31 Dec 2010 19:31:24
{ed's note - it would have width - you don't need wingers to provide width, you just need to give players freedom to get out wide in attacking areas

Can you name me a big team that does well without any wingers? {ed's note - Barcelona, they don't play with any wingers at all.}

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31 Dec 2010 19:29:01
"31 Dec 2010 18:50:29
Don't worry mate, no one'll read it anyway after the first line.

Oooooooh feisty! If it's too long for you or you need me to dumb it down all you have to do is ask theres no need to be so cryptic about it!
Duckula"

Sorry, i didn't realise my straightforward comment could be regarded as cryptic. I could simplify it if you're in need of such assistance. ;)

Oh and just to show i'm not just being bitchy (it's all banter though isn't it?) i actually agree with a large part of what you're saying, even if i don't necessarily i agree with the manner in which it was said. I won't boo players but the best i can manage recently is silence and the occasional clapping.

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31 Dec 2010 19:28:50
I would go for Bob Paisley, as he was the master at rebuilding sides effortlessly. He was more ruthless than shanks and new exactly what he wanted from every member of his team.There was no sentiment when it came to Bob.Bills team was virtually replaced in 4 yrs and we carried on winning things.Bob played a big role in Kennys early yrs in management too.Bob paisley would be challenging for the title next yr if he was to take over now hypothetically speaking of course. .god bless Sir Bob Paisley.

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31 Dec 2010 19:28:14
Liverpool Rumours
I forgot to mention this.
How many really weak headers did soto have (miss) the other night v Wolves? Sami would have had a hatrick. I remember 3.

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31 Dec 2010 19:25:17
Liverpool Rumours
@31 Dec 2010 18:17:45 ""Correct me if im wrong . NESV are being very respectfull to roy over this time of the year? and i sence ED has a problem with maritn o neill , is it because he is ex manure r what a long ball man come on man (he is a winner ) just what we need. {ed's note - nothing to do with United, he is just a very poor manager who has left every club he has managed in a complete shambles.}""

Martin O'Neill is not a winner. He is a mid-table long ball merchant who is capable of organising and motivating a small mid-table squad. As dire as Hodgson is, he has more talent than O'Neill.

RED LENIN

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31 Dec 2010 19:22:01
Liverpool Rumours
Wud love to see a change in manager before any signings are made because any that comolli brings in will be coming into a really bad atmospher we need a new man at the healm with new ideas and new attitude someone who is in touch with the people of this club and someone who can brighten up the place and for people calling for benitez are u mad the man has destroyed 3 clubs from his past and u want him to come back to us again and destroy us all over again the man made 3 good signings over a six year period that for me alone should be enough not to re-employ him or do want to have another babel type of player here or morientes, nunez, aquilani.to name but a few stinkers the man left us no youth team players good enough to jump into action because he would not play them in first team games he did not value the league only if it had champions infront of it ha , and as for that squad rotation and zonal marking my god the last thing i want to see is that shambles again thanks very much.so the spainish poirot is not welcome back in my eyes i do not want to see him around our mess of a club it would be like asking a mad man to take over the asylum. the direction i think we should move into management wise, should be either an old veteran to steady the ship until we find a suitable younger manager maybe dalglish taking over for a time or a hiddink or employ someone who is young but not new to the game, or someone who has won something in there career as a manager. how have we liverpool football club got a manager at this moment who has no record of notable achievements liverpool who is one of the most recognised names in football got a man who has no personality at all hugs the stoke mascot even though we lost loves our archrivals manager and has no desire in the latter years of his life to try and mount a challenge to the mancs domination and strangle hold over this league infact the only thing i did agree that benitez done during his time was to try and brake fergusons steam train but he went the wrong way about it again he done it offf the pitch and not on it and was shot down by sam allardyce and steve bruce, but i think we need a man to come in like a mourinho type to sturr it up not with words but actions on the team, all ferguson wants to do is destroy us and make us forgotten and he is nearly acheiving his goals in life this season will be the end of our league record if they win so we need to act now before it is to late man utd will always be the team we must keep down not the other way around or all our history and the hard work of them glorious past heroes is meaningless.

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31 Dec 2010 19:20:25
Liverpool Rumours
Why don't we try and buy lavezzi of napoli he is jus like tevez

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31 Dec 2010 19:20:06
Liverpool Rumours
"Speaking of which, that is why I am bemused by calls for RAFA to come back. This is a guy that stung us for 6 million in compo for being sacked. "

He didn't 'sting' us for anything. This is a standard contract term that managers have. Hodgson will have similar pro-rata to his salary.

RED LENIN

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31 Dec 2010 19:20:01
Liverpool Rumours
Sylvain marveaux looks like a great player, great technique and would finally provide some added danger not only from his pace and skill but also from deadball situations, much rather we spend a small amount on him rather than 15-20 million on ashley young. Young is far too inconsistent for a team in the top 4 (hopefully).

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31 Dec 2010 19:14:27
31 Dec 2010 18:41:33
Out of interest Ed, if you where manager who would you buy in the jan transfer window, who would you sell and what would your formation be? {ed's note - I would look to play a 4-3-3, simply because that suits our players best and that way I could buy less players. I would go for Honda, Sanchez and Llorente (dependant on money available), play Kelly, Ayala, Agger and Aurelio across the back, with Mavinga backing up Aurelio and Konchesky out the door with Kyrgiakos and Skrtel. Meireles, Gerrard and Honda in midfield, Lucas as back up. Up front Llorente, Torres and Sanchez, with Pacheco as back up and the option to move Honda forward if needed. What about you?}

So you would play

- - - - - - - - -Renia- - - - - -

Kelly- - -Ayala- - -Agger- -Auerlio

- - - - - - - -Meireles- - - - - - -

- - - - - Gerrard- -Honda- - - -

Sanchez- - - Torres- - -Llorente

Ed just to you know Llorente does on play wide. I like the team though. Would like Johnson as right back and I don't see Honda being signed when Cole and Lucas can be used in a similar role. {ed's note - I would play Sanchez behind Torres and Llorente in a free role.}

So you would play a team with absolute no width? Well anyway I think 433 is the way forward. I would sign Sanchez and someone like hazard. Roy will never use a 433 formation :(.

This is what id love, very unlikely tho.

- - - - - - Renia- - - - -
Johnson- -Kelly- -Agger- -Auerlio
- - - - - - - -Lucas- - - - - - - -
- - - - Meireles- -Gerrard- - - -
Hazard- - - Torres- - - Sanchez {ed's note - it would have width - you don't need wingers to provide width, you just need to give players freedom to get out wide in attacking areas.}

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31 Dec 2010 19:11:48
Liverpool Rumours
Once again being linked with bargain basement rejects who nobody else wants! !

Haven't we already got enough of those? ?

What we'll do is sign them for nothing, over pay them and when we do realise their pants! we can't sell them and nobody wants them! !

Woy won't walk, I've ordered him a cab!

TAXI FRO WOY!

Plonker! !

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31 Dec 2010 19:06:32
WHAT WE HAVE DESCENDED TO IS A DISGRACE. How anyone could have thought that anything else was going to happen this season, and possibly the next couple, is beyond me. We do not have a god given right to success, we have to to fight for it, earn it, strive for it. We have given up the right to objective criticism by constantly deriding our manager and by infernce the club. The players need to account for themselves and if there is a coterie of seniors that our manager is to be unsupported then they need to be disciplined for that. This is the behaviour we would scoff at the Geordies for displaying, but here we are, a f***ing digrace.

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31 Dec 2010 19:05:05
"Can I point out that NESV are now FSG or Fenway Sports Group. Lets keep up with times people especially if you want to claim insider knowledge"

To whoever posted the above, possibly you should know FSG existed since 2004 , and it does not own Liverpool fc, our club is owned by the parent company NESV.
No insider knowledge, just general knowledge and a bit of google.
Roy

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31 Dec 2010 19:03:31
@ Blair Mayne

I don't actually know what she said exactly, i thought she just said our supporters were yite. So if it was anything more heinous than that then i take it back, but i was in france for 3 weeks so i didn't hear any more than that sorry.
Duckula

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31 Dec 2010 18:59:26
Yeah sorry to spriggo my last post at you ended pretty needlessly rudely when you were actually pretty reasonable so my apologies for that, it is new year after all and im slightly tipsy, sorry.

And i don't know what we do about our manager slagging our players. I just know our fans hating us isn't helping anyone. Im off out sorry but happy new year to everyone, and don't worry il read all your various declamations on my character when i drag myself off the bathroom floor tomorrow afternoon.
Duckula

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31 Dec 2010 18:59:13
Liverpool Rumours
Just want to say well done to sir martin broughton for his knighthood in the new days hounors list! you deserve it for getting rid of those yank scum!


P.S roy "the owl" hodgson please just F*** off before you wreak our great club even more! !

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31 Dec 2010 18:52:30
Liverpool Rumours
. .a few months ago i suggested the possibility of harry redknapp with jamie redknapp as his number 2 at liverpool and the editor pissed his pants laughing! . .does anybody (including the editor) have any better ideas now?? after all we all know harry would jump ship at the drop of a hat if we were to show any interest! english manager who plays great attacking football and his son idolises the mighty reds. .the futures bright (with harry) the futures biege {ed's note - I would rather keep Roy personally, Harry has won even less than him and destroyed every club he has ever managed.}

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31 Dec 2010 18:50:40
31 Dec 2010 18:17:45
Correct me if im wrong . NESV are being very respectfull to roy over this time of the year? and i sence ED has a problem with maritn o neill , is it because he is ex manure r what a long ball man come on man (he is a winner ) just what we need. {ed's note - nothing to do with United, he is just a very poor manager who has left every club he has managed in a complete shambles.}

hmm not true. He made villa a force last year! FA cup good run finished ABOVE us, he only left Villa because he knew he wouldn't get the financial backing to take villa to the next step which is what he intended to do. Or at least that is what i read about why he left. Don't slag him off good guy positive manager but no don't appoint for LFC. {ed's note - a force? They were a long ball, kick and rush team who struggled to a decent position because teams like us were terrible all season. He left Villa because he fell out with half the team, the chairman had had enough of him buying expensive players on big wages only to never play them and the final straw was his reluctance to play any kids. He was asking for money to buy a right winger rather than give Albrighton a game. He is a poor manager.}

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31 Dec 2010 18:50:29
Don't worry mate, no one'll read it anyway after the first line.

Oooooooh feisty! If it's too long for you or you need me to dumb it down all you have to do is ask theres no need to be so cryptic about it!
Duckula

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31 Dec 2010 18:46:33
Liverpool Rumours
Personally, I think at this moment in time, a new manager should be the main priority, but I don't think NESV will rush into making a decision that they regret later on down the road. As a result I will be happy to see Dalglish back on a temporary basis until the end of the season, before making a push to get Villas-Boas in the summer, providing he continues in the same vein at Porto. Even if Dalglish does brilliantly I would look to change him, looking to the future, but also because I think it will be difficult to sack such a legend if we suffer a similar demise in a season or two with him in charge.

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31 Dec 2010 18:46:07
Liverpool Rumours
We need someone more like fernando llorente as he is spanish and a big aerial threat. we also need a good fast winger as babel looks like hes on his way. Roy to go and any manager suggestions anyone?

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31 Dec 2010 18:45:48
Why has nesv not sacked roy yet, talk about insult the lfc supporters .i think they are lyers , we will listen to the fans lol yeah right

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31 Dec 2010 18:43:13
Mr Editor, what were the problems with Rikjaards personal life leading to him not being in contention with the Liverpool job? I'm very interested. {ed's note - it has been said on here before, but I can say that he is a Rastafarian and part of that involves something that NESV don't feel is the right image for the club.}

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31 Dec 2010 18:41:35
Question for everyone and the eds.if you could choose either shankley paisley or fagan to take over from roy who would it be?DORSET RED {ed's note - Paisley for me is the greatest manager of all time, it would have to be him.}

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31 Dec 2010 18:41:33
Out of interest Ed, if you where manager who would you buy in the jan transfer window, who would you sell and what would your formation be? {ed's note - I would look to play a 4-3-3, simply because that suits our players best and that way I could buy less players. I would go for Honda, Sanchez and Llorente (dependant on money available), play Kelly, Ayala, Agger and Aurelio across the back, with Mavinga backing up Aurelio and Konchesky out the door with Kyrgiakos and Skrtel. Meireles, Gerrard and Honda in midfield, Lucas as back up. Up front Llorente, Torres and Sanchez, with Pacheco as back up and the option to move Honda forward if needed. What about you?}

So you would play

- - - - - - - - -Renia- - - - - -

Kelly- - -Ayala- - -Agger- -Auerlio

- - - - - - - -Meireles- - - - - - -

- - - - - Gerrard- -Honda- - - -

Sanchez- - - Torres- - -Llorente

Ed just to you know Llorente does on play wide. I like the team though. Would like Johnson as right back and I don't see Honda being signed when Cole and Lucas can be used in a similar role. {ed's note - I would play Sanchez behind Torres and Llorente in a free role.}

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31 Dec 2010 18:40:53
31 Dec 2010 18:24:32
Can i just say that i think you should all stop and give yourselves a pat on the back. CONGRATULATIONS! After half a season of constantly bullying our own players and manager you've managed to turn us into effectively the worst team in the league. That display against wolves was dire. And it's not just down to Hodgson. It's not just down to the players. It's also largely down to the third part of the trinity - the fans. We are the most despised team in the league, and it really comes to something when sky are supporting Liverpool more than our own fans. If the fans aren't going to support our team then who is? Why would anyone want to come to Liverpool to be slagged off week after week by our own supporters. Sorry i shouldn't use that word. I'll stick with fans i think it's more appropriate. So everyone wants Hodgson gone. Good. Fine. Whatever. But the day you catch me hoping we'll lose so we get our manager sacked is the day i will literally cut my own throat. Or actively working against my club because i want something to change. Im not going to sit there slagging off ANYTHING about the club when we're in a clear crisis and need to pull together. The club is more important than ANY of your opinions, or mine. Something in this situation has to give. I can't see we'll sack roy in january and even if we do whoever replaces him will have to win their 1st ten games or u lot will turn on him, so either we shut the Gillette up and get on with it till the summer or we flirt with relegation for the rest of the season.

And if you can't bring yourselves to support our manager, why not try supporting our players. Paul Konchesky booed HARD against wolves. Yeah well done. Thatl no doubt improve his performances. That would be emotionally devastating, poor guy looked like he might cry! AND THAT'S OUR OWN HICKING PLAYER! What exactly does that achieve, have we not learned anything from lucas? It's just cruel and pathetic and shows that we're not a family club anymore, we're merciless. WE HAD NO LEFT BACK AT ALL, he was a panic buy to cover the hole we had in our first team, clearly never a long term signing - just so we could put out 11 senior players, same as poulsen. Both of whom were cheap rather than panic buying a superstar who might flop just as hard. THAT, my less than intelligent friends, IS GOOD MANAGEMENT. Steady the ship without crippling the balance. And they would have steadied it too had they not been weekly flogged (by those pesky meddling kids). And we're too impatient to even give Hodgson one window, so we'll never know if he's good or not will we. You're undermining the confidence of the club from the inside at the moment. And also i might add, the reputation. All the while blaming the results of your vendetta on Hodgson and using that as proof that you're right! What a brilliant little counter productive circle of absolute Rick Parry. Let's be honest, Konchesky's mum is right. From the evidence of this season anyway. Reading this site at the moment it could very well be a man united supporters forum what with all the anti liverpool sentiment spouted on here. . . .

Duckula
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Support the manager? Is that a joke Duckula?

When has Hodgson ever stuck up for our players or our club. Did you not hear his comments about "us fans" after the Wolves game?

If you think that Konchesky's mum was right about what she said about scousers and Liverpool, then it's you who needs to f*** off over to the Man'ure site because what she said was just pathetic.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 18:40:11
Spriggo

Who exactly has kept quiet? That's entirely my point we've spent the entire season bashing our own manager. We haven't won the league for 20 years. We also just got rid of two vultures, and are recovering from very nearly being so screwed we could have gone bankrupt. We were never going to win the league this season it was a rebuilding process - personified by the fact mascherano (a pivotal player) walked out on us on the day of the man city game. Oh but no doubt that wouldn't have happened if martin jol or didier deschamps had been at the helm. The best we could hope for was a champions league place realistically. And that is still possible believe it or not. Totally impossible however, if our fans aren't supporting us. And yes i understand this is a place where people express their opinions. Hence why i wrote mine. And i don't care if you agree - you would apparently cut your nose off to spite your face so please don't be too offended if i don't defer to you.
Duckula

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31 Dec 2010 18:36:24
". . Duckula


ps sorry for the essay i got a little carried away there and i can't be bothered to cut it down. . ."

Don't worry mate, no one'll read it anyway after the first line.

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31 Dec 2010 18:33:46
31 Dec 2010 18:15:16
Someone once said "We have to destroy this village in order to save it" Maybe that's the case with our situation?

You can't save something AFTER it's been destroyed. Thats not how it works. Anytime BEFORE it's been destroyed is fine. . . . and i love the implication that we should destroy our club!
Duckula
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The implication was Duckula that some people would want us to lose games so Hodgson would be sacked. Which could be better for the future of the club.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 18:32:48
Lets be realistic for a minute.

NESV have been here 3 months and have taken the majority of debt away. They haven't had a chance to install their manager or haven't had a chance to experience a transfer window. Traditionally the January window is one for Bosmans and to pick up cover for injuries. It is hard to rebuild a team in this window as most teams across Europe are jockeying for league position and the financial benefits of qualifying for Euro cup competitions. With the new financial rules coming in many clubs will not be able to spend recklessly, thus the market won't get as inflated as it had in the past come summer. That being said, expect Spuds and Citeh to spend 75 mill combined this window.
We need young up and coming players and we need speed and width. Its shocking to me that considering our current choices Jova hasn't been given a run of games with the 1st 11. He can play wide and has SPEED. Throwing him out with the glorified reserve team in cup competitions is not exactly a way of showcasing a guy making an alleged 100K a week.
Playing Meireles , Cole, Stevie out of position is criminal. Either play them in position or don't play them and have them come off the bench. Slur Alki does't play Carrick, Fletcher, Scoles, Giggs, Gibson, Anderson, Nani, Valencia all at one time and he's drunk half of the time.
I have written off this seasons league top 4 chances at this point. We need to focus on one thing and one thing only. Remember the NESV Q&A. JWH complemented Ian Ayres on how brilliant our commercial success is. Now we need to build a product on the pitch that entertains and competes with the best in this league. Our fans deserve this. We crave to be relevant again. We have the owners, we have the Fans, we have the best keeper, midfielder and striker in the world on any given day. We have a great number 2, and a great number 4. Our number 5 is one of the best footballing CH in the game. We have a few young players we can put around them but we also have alot of Sh* e. Babel, Skrtel, Soto, Konchelski, Kuyt, Poulsen, Spearing, Darby, Aquillani, El Zhar Degen and probably Lucas (one of our top 2 this year)should be cashed in on. $45-50 Million and buy Width and SPEED.
Finally, Roy has to go as we need an attacking minded manager(FR please). 4-3-3 with 15 players that could be plugged in to "the System" in their correct positions.

A quick shout out to:
The BOOTER. quality posts the last couple of days.
The ED's on a great forum
and wishing all Kopites a safe and happy New Year.
Remamber "At the end of the storm is a golden Sky and the sweet silver song of a lark" YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 18:30:12
Liverpool Rumours
HI ED am glad to hear that the transfer signings for transfer windows will be controlled by comolli not hodgson the only dissapointment is that hodgson is not sacked yet especially after he has made himself look a complete idiot and ferguson puppet-just like big sam ha ha how can the owners want a man to lead us against them and challenge them and other title contenders as they commented on when they laid down there strategy plans for our bright future that was what they wanted there investment to be doing and im sorry but if they do not make a change in management in january that for me is the first lie in there first statements if they are that stupid as a management team to keep a man in charge that the supporters hate the players have no confidence in which for me is the most important principles of a manager keeping players and fans on side and also results i mean i don't even have to write down how poor his results have been since the man began club management hodgson has never been a great manager and never will be so i don't think i will be the only one dissapointed if our new owners do nothing about the manager in the coming weeks ps pls sack hodgson pls. happy new years to fellow red sufferer

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31 Dec 2010 18:24:32
Can i just say that i think you should all stop and give yourselves a pat on the back. CONGRATULATIONS! After half a season of constantly bullying our own players and manager you've managed to turn us into effectively the worst team in the league. That display against wolves was dire. And it's not just down to Hodgson. It's not just down to the players. It's also largely down to the third part of the trinity - the fans. We are the most despised team in the league, and it really comes to something when sky are supporting Liverpool more than our own fans. If the fans aren't going to support our team then who is? Why would anyone want to come to Liverpool to be slagged off week after week by our own supporters. Sorry i shouldn't use that word. I'll stick with fans i think it's more appropriate. So everyone wants Hodgson gone. Good. Fine. Whatever. But the day you catch me hoping we'll lose so we get our manager sacked is the day i will literally cut my own throat. Or actively working against my club because i want something to change. Im not going to sit there slagging off ANYTHING about the club when we're in a clear crisis and need to pull together. The club is more important than ANY of your opinions, or mine. Something in this situation has to give. I can't see we'll sack roy in january and even if we do whoever replaces him will have to win their 1st ten games or u lot will turn on him, so either we shut the Gillette up and get on with it till the summer or we flirt with relegation for the rest of the season.

And if you can't bring yourselves to support our manager, why not try supporting our players. Paul Konchesky booed HARD against wolves. Yeah well done. Thatl no doubt improve his performances. That would be emotionally devastating, poor guy looked like he might cry! AND THAT'S OUR OWN HICKING PLAYER! What exactly does that achieve, have we not learned anything from lucas? It's just cruel and pathetic and shows that we're not a family club anymore, we're merciless. WE HAD NO LEFT BACK AT ALL, he was a panic buy to cover the hole we had in our first team, clearly never a long term signing - just so we could put out 11 senior players, same as poulsen. Both of whom were cheap rather than panic buying a superstar who might flop just as hard. THAT, my less than intelligent friends, IS GOOD MANAGEMENT. Steady the ship without crippling the balance. And they would have steadied it too had they not been weekly flogged (by those pesky meddling kids). And we're too impatient to even give Hodgson one window, so we'll never know if he's good or not will we. You're undermining the confidence of the club from the inside at the moment. And also i might add, the reputation. All the while blaming the results of your vendetta on Hodgson and using that as proof that you're right! What a brilliant little counter productive circle of absolute Rick Parry. Let's be honest, Konchesky's mum is right. From the evidence of this season anyway. Reading this site at the moment it could very well be a man united supporters forum what with all the anti liverpool sentiment spouted on here. . . .

Duckula


ps sorry for the essay i got a little carried away there and i can't be bothered to cut it down. . .


What do we do about the manager slagging the players off?

LAVERS

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31 Dec 2010 18:23:54
31 Dec 2010 17:48:21
"My anger is no longer aimed at Hodgson it's aimed at NESV because no matter what why we look at it they are the only ones who can do anything about it.

NESV do the right thing before it's to late and you have no PL club to own. You will own a Championship side."

Blair Mayne YNWA

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Blair:

I understand your frustration mate, but I don't agree with you about NESV.
I am not one to say NESV are the best owners a club can get (like many in here do), and I don't think they done us a favour by buying the club, they did themselves that favour by picking it on the cheap-very cheap-.
However its only right we give them time , they've owned the club just over 3 months, and its a market very new to them in terms its their first football venture and their first business in England (maybe Europe) , they would need time to understand it all, and more time to put the pieces in place for the long term.
They cannot sack Roy until there is an alternative, suppose they sack Roy tomorrow, are you happy with Sami being in charge till the end of the season? I guess not! they won't put Kenny in charge, it will be a big gamble for them, if he failed they would 've tarnished his reputation, if he succeeds, it spoils their long term plans of getting a young manager and building for the future.
As you know I want Roy out few months ago, but I cannot blame NESV for not rushing to sack him.
Roy
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The way i feel at the momment Roy i'd stick John McMahon in charge. Surely the ones people keep mentioning i.e Rafa, Kenny, O'Neil etc. can do a better job than this fool we have in charge now.

If Hodgson stays in charge any longer mate and stays to the end of the season i fear for our club i really do.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 18:21:02
I didn't want roy i thought from the begining that the job is to big for him.

the people to blame are purslow/ broughton they gave him the job.

they did a good job geting rid of the 2 cowboys
but that's it.
just listen to roy about the list purslow gave him of players to get rid of.
that just shows how much he was interfering.

soul man.

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31 Dec 2010 18:21:01
Btw what are you hoping to achieve with players like Lucas? Average in every department players?! Ngog is the same. As is Spearing etc. They are not the players to bring in to take us anywhere near the top 4 now never mind champions. Its sub standard to think that these could make top drawer players one day because its not going to happen. Its just not there. End of.

Spriggo

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31 Dec 2010 18:17:45
Correct me if im wrong . NESV are being very respectfull to roy over this time of the year? and i sence ED has a problem with maritn o neill , is it because he is ex manure r what a long ball man come on man (he is a winner ) just what we need. {ed's note - nothing to do with United, he is just a very poor manager who has left every club he has managed in a complete shambles.}

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31 Dec 2010 18:16:08
Duckula

The fans have their right to any opinion they want same as those who attend the match and voice theirs at the Manager. Sometimes enough is enough.

If it means we get rid of the s* te we have and suffer like this
For a while to get it right then its worth it.

Sorry I can't agree with your opinions. The time to keep quiet is
over. We haven't won a league title for 20 years. Keeping stum
Isn't always the way.

Spriggo

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31 Dec 2010 18:15:16
Someone once said "We have to destroy this village in order to save it" Maybe that's the case with our situation?

You can't save something AFTER it's been destroyed. Thats not how it works. Anytime BEFORE it's been destroyed is fine. . . . and i love the implication that we should destroy our club!
Duckula

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31 Dec 2010 18:12:02
Liverpool Rumours
"To whoever says Hoarau is a poor mans crouch you must not have seen him play. hes a product of the le havre academy, he scored around 30 goals in one ligue 2 season before psg snapped him up. he has great technical skills for a big man and hes great in the air. id take hoarau over crouch at this moment in time. the upside is far greater"

His career has not been stellar and he is not the person we need. Even if he were to play better in the EPL, which remains in doubt, simply being better than Crouch doesn't mean he is the quality needed to take the team back to the top. I sincerely hope we don't get him.

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31 Dec 2010 18:09:42
Club first.com
your right the stanterd of your posts
are stupid .
wether you like rafa or not to say a manager
who has won 2la leaga championships/
1 uefa cup / 1 fa cup / 1 champions league
never mind going a season only losing 2 games/
getting to another champions league final is stupid.
you say he only fit for the championship .

just shows you don't understand what he had to work with in his last 2 years.he showed a profit in his last 3 transfer windows.

soul man.

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31 Dec 2010 18:08:18
I think NESV. are being very RESPECTFULL to roy over this xmas break by not giving him the AXE before now its very positive (what goes around comes around )i like this

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31 Dec 2010 18:05:02
Liverpool Rumours
Can I point out that NESV are now FSG or Fenway Sports Group. Lets keep up with times people especially if you want to claim insider knowledge.

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31 Dec 2010 18:00:23
LFC during the boot room years often signed young players to establish continuity , Damien Comolli' initiative is nothing new .

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31 Dec 2010 17:54:46
Liverpool Rumours
Why does everyone rubbish martin oniel as a possible replacement. in my eyes i feel he is exactly what the club need a manager who will motivate players, bring interesting footbal and will develop a well structured squad. .he knows how to buy good players who will adapt an develop. milner wouldn't be the player he is today if oniel didn't sign him and without oniel he isn't doing much at man city. his record proves to be good all you have to do is look what he did with leister and look at where villa where going with him. ? i think he should be the top target to replace roy. this would be the chance to prove himself and prove what he can do at a big club!

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31 Dec 2010 17:54:45
Can i just say that i think you should all stop and give yourselves a pat on the back. CONGRATULATIONS! After half a season of constantly bullying our own players and manager you've managed to turn us into effectively the worst team in the league. That display against wolves was dire. And it's not just down to Hodgson. It's not just down to the players. It's also largely down to the third part of the trinity - the fans. We are the most despised team in the league, and it really comes to something when sky are supporting Liverpool more than our own fans. If the fans aren't going to support our team then who is? Why would anyone want to come to Liverpool to be slagged off week after week by our own supporters. Sorry i shouldn't use that word. I'll stick with fans i think it's more appropriate. So everyone wants Hodgson gone. Good. Fine. Whatever. But the day you catch me hoping we'll lose so we get our manager sacked is the day i will literally cut my own throat. Or actively working against my club because i want something to change. Im not going to sit there slagging off ANYTHING about the club when we're in a clear crisis and need to pull together. The club is more important than ANY of your opinions, or mine. Something in this situation has to give. I can't see we'll sack roy in january and even if we do whoever replaces him will have to win their 1st ten games or u lot will turn on him, so either we shut the Gillette up and get on with it till the summer or we flirt with relegation for the rest of the season.
And if you can't bring yourselves to support our manager, why not try supporting our players. Paul Konchesky booed HARD against wolves. Yeah well done. Thatl no doubt improve his performances. That would be emotionally devastating, poor guy looked like he might cry! AND THAT'S OUR OWN HICKING PLAYER! What exactly does that achieve, have we not learned anything from lucas? It's just cruel and pathetic and shows that we're not a family club anymore, we're merciless. WE HAD NO LEFT BACK AT ALL, he was a panic buy to cover the hole we had in our first team, clearly never a long term signing - just so we could put out 11 senior players, same as poulsen. Both of whom were cheap rather than panic buying a superstar who might flop just as hard. THAT, my less than intelligent friends, IS GOOD MANAGEMENT. Steady the ship without crippling the balance. And they would have steadied it too had they not been weekly flogged (by those pesky meddling kids). And we're too impatient to even give Hodgson one window, so we'll never know if he's good or not will we. You're undermining the confidence of the club from the inside at the moment. And also i might add, the reputation. All the while blaming the results of your vendetta on Hodgson and using that as proof that you're right! What a brilliant little counter productive circle of absolute Rick Parry. Let's be honest, Konchesky's mum is right. From the evidence of this season anyway. Reading this site at the moment it could very well be a man united supporters forum what with all the anti liverpool sentiment spouted on here. . . .
Duckula

ps sorry for the essay i got a little carried away there and i can't be bothered to cut it down. . .

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31 Dec 2010 17:54:11
I agree with you mate but i still don't want us to lose tomorrow. Maybe a draw would suit us perfect.


Someone once said "We have to destroy this village in order to save it" Maybe that's the case with our situation?


Blair Mayne YNWA

Maybe a rubbish display and a 0-0 then that may still be enough to see the back of him.

LAVERS

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31 Dec 2010 17:53:39
Liverpool Rumours
Have people forgot. . . . . . . . . . . .rubber roy said don't judge me now after these amount of games but judge me at christmas. well we are 3 points from going down and don't say we are to big it can happen to any team. my thoughts are we should sell torres if he keeps on playing like this, dont want a player crying all the time. we need players who want to play for us and when step out on to the pitch give it 100% and after the game the other night, im sorry to say this but all the players didn't show any passion, we need a manager who can gain respect of the players, and also look at it like this if gerrard and carragher as people say controll the dressing room even when rafa was there, stop it or go because bill shankly wouldn't have it like this and look how well he done. lots of first team players need to go we need to sort out a new spine for the team it has all gone to pot since alonso went he was are key player and playmaker. i would take it back to the old ways of pass from the back men to the front. stop this long ball and tryin to header the ball to each other. also now one knows anynews on this site or internet as the new owners and co keep everything hush hush as it should be. all i can say now is i hope man u don't win the prem and liverpool get as close to 4th as thay can its a massive task but some wishes come true.

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31 Dec 2010 17:53:00
Liverpool Rumours
Rumours of the players we have been linked to are not making me happy, what happened to the " we should be competing with real and barca for players". if the likes of marveaux and hourau are the quality comolli is bringing to the club pack your bags and leave anfield with roy . have'nt we taken enuff risks with signings over the last 20 years , i say buy quality like hazard, hulk , banega, llorente , sareuz

buy banega 13m , hulk 18m , hazard 20m in jan
sell kuyt , babel , ngog, konchesky, poulson , lucas
or use in p/ x
team
reina
johnson skrtel/ kyri agger aurelio
banega
gerrard meireles
hulk hazard
torres

if torres does'nt pull his socks up then move hulk up front, he's quality but living on past glorys

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31 Dec 2010 17:52:19
Liverpool Rumours
Out of interest Ed, if you where manager who would you buy in the jan transfer window, who would you sell and what would your formation be? {ed's note - I would look to play a 4-3-3, simply because that suits our players best and that way I could buy less players. I would go for Honda, Sanchez and Llorente (dependant on money available), play Kelly, Ayala, Agger and Aurelio across the back, with Mavinga backing up Aurelio and Konchesky out the door with Kyrgiakos and Skrtel. Meireles, Gerrard and Honda in midfield, Lucas as back up. Up front Llorente, Torres and Sanchez, with Pacheco as back up and the option to move Honda forward if needed. What about you?}

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31 Dec 2010 17:51:50
Hear a stat that I wanted to share with you all.

Eight of the team that played against Wolves also played in the 4-0 Champions League victory of Real Madrid 20 (ish) months ago.

Manager or players ?

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if we say manager than that's makes rafa pretty good in my book?? surely it aint players as they are the same just not motivated! !

im sure we have to give rafa credit for them sort of wins (inter, manu, barca and the arsenal 4 all game was great, even though we didn't win! ) im sure a few will say he had nothing to do with it and it was down to stevie or nando but obviously not! !


matty b
the big differnce between rafa and hodgson is tactics
rafa knew with the players he had when to attack and when to defend

hodgson just looks to defend rhen hopefully pinch a goal

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31 Dec 2010 17:51:27
I still question myself why people think rjikard is a good manager and want him in liverpool? He ruined barca accademy, their second team was in 4 dev., he promoted messi, iniesta and other in the 'pearls' first team, but it was earlier both for the and for the second team. Actually pep is 'the man'. He structered 'the masion' back on the track and they are in second dev playing very well and winning everything. Pep is the man

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31 Dec 2010 17:50:55
Liverpool Rumours
"He did a great job at villa and is the passionate type of manager we need"

If your definition of "passion" is MON then I don't think we need passion! And type of manager? Another "4-4-2 hoof up to 2 tall clowns up-front" type of manager is what we "passionately" don't need or want. There is a difference between doing a "great job" as you call it at a lesser team and managing Liverpool. . just ask Hodgson.

CC

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31 Dec 2010 17:50:37
Lets go out and support the reds.

I think he will be here till the end of the season because there is no one else available.

Then in the summer we will get the manager and the players we want. .

We will be great again because we have wealthy owners, great fans and a great reputation across the world.

All the best

Macca

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31 Dec 2010 17:49:32
Ed's and everyone Happy New Year,

Heres to LFC turning a corner and putting this miserable year behind us and looking forward to the future.

Roy or no Roy, i still want 3points of bolton, then we can start as we mean to go on.

Happy new year everyone

Lee73

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31 Dec 2010 17:49:14
Carra as player manager?- -Are you people out of your mind?- - Are you dreaming that he'll do what King Kenny did?- -"KING KENNY" COMES ONCE IN A LIFETIME!

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31 Dec 2010 17:48:21
"My anger is no longer aimed at Hodgson it's aimed at NESV because no matter what why we look at it they are the only ones who can do anything about it.

NESV do the right thing before it's to late and you have no PL club to own. You will own a Championship side."

Blair Mayne YNWA

==============

Blair:

I understand your frustration mate, but I don't agree with you about NESV.
I am not one to say NESV are the best owners a club can get (like many in here do), and I don't think they done us a favour by buying the club, they did themselves that favour by picking it on the cheap-very cheap-.
However its only right we give them time , they've owned the club just over 3 months, and its a market very new to them in terms its their first football venture and their first business in England (maybe Europe) , they would need time to understand it all, and more time to put the pieces in place for the long term.
They cannot sack Roy until there is an alternative, suppose they sack Roy tomorrow, are you happy with Sami being in charge till the end of the season? I guess not! they won't put Kenny in charge, it will be a big gamble for them, if he failed they would 've tarnished his reputation, if he succeeds, it spoils their long term plans of getting a young manager and building for the future.
As you know I want Roy out few months ago, but I cannot blame NESV for not rushing to sack him.
Roy

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31 Dec 2010 17:47:52
Bloody disgusting some of the drivel on this page. As much as everyone wants Roy out, hoping the team lose just to see the back of him is disgraceful! and passing judgement on the owners before they've even had a chance to do anything with the playing squad! I thought we had the best fans in the country. Never mind the ironic jeering of Konchesky on Wednesday, as woeful a player he may be, he wears that shirt so should be supported.

I know wanting us to lose is not good but if it gets rid of that Dick then I'm glad. What's disgraceful is what's happened to us. When bottom of the table come to anfield and fancy they can beat us that's disgraceful, but not just beat us but take the pies out of us at the same time. I don't want us to lose but something needs to change and the only way that is going to happen is results. now the wolves game has got the world watching so a bad result to bolton nesv ha
ve got to act.

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31 Dec 2010 17:46:19
Liverpool Rumours
"If we are classing 26 as too old now then the world has gone completely barking mad!"

You are wrong. . the only players we should be getting at 26 are those who would immediately add value to the first team, as opposed to being the next Voronin. In that sense he is too old. Rather spend that money on a more promising younger player.

CC

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31 Dec 2010 17:46:16
31 Dec 2010 17:14:16
That's the conundrum LAVERS is it a good thing if get beat by Bolton? I hope we win of course but i'm with you i can't see it happening.


Tom Werner and John Henry both sat in the Lfc.tv studios and said results were "unacceptable and had to improve". Now nearly 3 weeks on our results have not improved if anything they have got worse along with the performances but still Roy is at our club.


Blair Mayne YNWA

I know I'm wrong to say this but yeah I do want us to lose Blair. Say we scrape a win and then we beat blackburn we all know we will go and lose a couple of games again. Roy is not going to get the team winning week in week out. We got on abit of a run then we lose to mighty wolves 1 point away all season, if we win tomorrow were papering over the cracks cus we know round the corner we will lose a few. It's best for us to lose tomorrow if it means Roy goes.

LAVERS
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I agree with you mate but i still don't want us to lose tomorrow. Maybe a draw would suit us perfect.

Someone once said "We have to destroy this village in order to save it" Maybe that's the case with our situation?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 17:45:18
Liverpool Rumours
31 Dec 2010 14:49:27
Liverpool Rumours
I grew up with Steven Gerrards dad, and was out with him last night.

we were talking about possible signings and Paul told me that Steven has said that there was no chance of any big signings in January, BUT Liverpool have agreed to a MASSIVE Departure form the club, though it is not Steven.

I said my money would be on Torres or Reina, but Paul said he could not say, but *winked.

He said Steven had talked to Maxi about Aguero staying in his house over Christmas, but said that he had also spent time with Tevez, and thinks a move to Eastlands may be planned!

no one ever believes anyone when they say they r friends with a team member or their dad is it that impossible for the players to have friends or there family to have friends lol

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31 Dec 2010 17:44:03
Liverpool Rumours
Right guys this sounds a little crazy i know and is purely based on my opinion. BUT . didn't the special one say he fancied a run at liverpool manager one day, when the two idiots WERE NOT in charge and he had some money to play with? well surely there would be no better time that this summer he has new owners, supposed funds and if there's anyone who would be more up for the challenge of making Liverpool fc the greatest team in Europe again surely it would be him? besides if he fails and liverpool don't make the europa league he could blame what has happened before him to save his own ego and if he is triumphant his ego gets even bigger win win for jose as i see it?

DT

{Editor's Note: He never said it and it will never happen.}

Your rite ed he didn't say actual words, but has in past said he was a liverpool suporter in his younger days and when asked if he would ever coach liverpool he responded not why h&g were there.

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31 Dec 2010 17:43:13
"Come on boys time for calm I want Roy out too but let's give nesv time. Remember the best decisions are calculated and to make them takes time. They don't want Roy just like we don't but let's bide time and see what decisions they make. This season is a disaster Roy has taken us backwards so we need to rebuild and who ever comes in will need time. If our so called better players can't live for a season or 2 without the over hyped champions league then sell and get the money. Then we rebuild with players that want to play for the famous shirt.

Come on let's stick together and get through this

LFC1"

I couldn't disagree more with this post. Hodgson was always a dubious appointment but one most of us would come right. But is has been apparent for MONTHS that his tactics are totally unsuitable, his man-management appalling, team selections poor and zero "plan B" in his locker. So the longer it takes to get rid of him the more players, especially top ones, want to leave. So all the BS about "players that want to wear the famous shirt" really gets me riled: practically every one of the better players is here precisely because they wanted to wear the shirt. It must be a nightmare for them having to play the way Hodgson wants them to play knowing it is the wrong way. In fact, big-mouth, I bet you woudn't act any differently if you were a player. Every single day he stays is adding to the likelihood of not only losing top players but struggling for years to rebuild with other top-class players. You need a serious reality check.

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31 Dec 2010 17:41:54
Liverpool Rumours
Benitez back? Why not bring Hicks & Gillett back as well. Honestly the standard of "fan" commenting on these sites would make anyone dispair. Benitez isn't fit to manage in the championship.

Clubfirst.com

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31 Dec 2010 17:37:58
Hear a stat that I wanted to share with you all.

Eight of the team that played against Wolves also played in the 4-0 Champions League victory of Real Madrid 20 (ish) months ago.

Manager or players ?

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if we say manager than that's makes rafa pretty good in my book? ?? surely it aint players as they are the same just not motivated! !

im sure we have to give rafa credit for them sort of wins (inter, manu, barca and the arsenal 4 all game was great, even though we didn't win! ! ) im sure a few will say he had nothing to do with it and it was down to stevie or nando but obviously not! !


matty b

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31 Dec 2010 17:35:36
Right guys this sounds a little crazy i know and is purely based on my opinion. BUT . didn't the special one say he fancied a run at liverpool manager one day, when the two idiots WERE NOT in charge and he had some money to play with? well surely there would be no better time that this summer he has new owners, supposed funds and if there's anyone who would be more up for the challenge of making Liverpool fc the greatest team in Europe again surely it would be him? besides if he fails and liverpool don't make the europa league he could blame what has happened before him to save his own ego and if he is triumphant his ego gets even bigger win win for jose as i see it?

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Don't even call him the special one! If telling your players to win by whatever means, including cheating, ganging up on the ref, kicking lumps out of the oppositions best player makes a manager "special" then football truly has gone down the pan!

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31 Dec 2010 17:35:01
Liverpool Rumours
I grew up with Steven Gerrards dad, and was out with him last night.

we were talking about possible signings and Paul told me that Steven has said that there was no chance of any big signings in January, BUT Liverpool have agreed to a MASSIVE Departure form the club, though it is not Steven.

I said my money would be on Torres or Reina, but Paul said he could not say, but *winked.

He said Steven had talked to Maxi about Aguero staying in his house over Christmas, but said that he had also spent time with Tevez, and thinks a move to Eastlands may be planned!

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For h* k sake will you people stop wasting my and everyone elses time! !. god shows how bored people must be.

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31 Dec 2010 17:33:18
31 Dec 2010 17:06:27
I will not be watching the game tommorow or any more this season thanks to the yick head roy hodgson, i would not be supprised if he played the samel style and sqaud he did against wolves, i can't see were our next win is coming from, my interest for this liverpool is fading fast, my son said why are liverpool always loosing, they are rubbish i had no answer or responce because its the truth, liverpool are the worst team in the league and if it carries on we deserve to get relegated.as for the transfer window there is no point getting world class players for roy to turn them in to sunday league pub players.


Just h*ck off then, your not a true fan.

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31 Dec 2010 17:32:59
The one thing that I have noted under Roy's tenure as Liverpool's manager NO team now fear playing at Anfield, nesv have one hell of a job to find the right man to repair the damage.
Redeyedhector

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31 Dec 2010 17:30:29
Liverpool Rumours
Right guys this sounds a little crazy i know and is purely based on my opinion. BUT . didn't the special one say he fancied a run at liverpool manager one day, when the two idiots WERE NOT in charge and he had some money to play with? well surely there would be no better time that this summer he has new owners, supposed funds and if there's anyone who would be more up for the challenge of making Liverpool fc the greatest team in Europe again surely it would be him? besides if he fails and liverpool don't make the europa league he could blame what has happened before him to save his own ego and if he is triumphant his ego gets even bigger win win for jose as i see it?

DT

{Editor's Note: He never said it and it will never happen.}

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31 Dec 2010 17:29:20
Liverpool Rumours
Hodgeson was aa appointment of the Gillett/ Hicks nightmare. The guy has never really managed a decent ambitious club side apart from Inter. The premier league clubs he has been in charge of have been happy gain premier league survival each year and maybe a decent cup run. Liverpool fc as a club and it's fans are more ambitious than this, we need to be in the champions league and challenging for a top four Finnish as a minimum target each season. Rafa had his problems last season which were compounded by the broken relationship with Gillett/ Hicks. Woy has taken us to a poor championship side standard in just 19 games! How can he expect fans to back him he is Gillett/ hicks manager with no pedigree. We expect more and deserve more, do the honourable thing Woy jump before you are pushed and let's hope NESV get us the right man to start to rebuild our legendary and historical club!

Also let's hope NESV have not put all their eggs in one basket with Comolli! !

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31 Dec 2010 17:28:11
Bloody disgusting some of the drivel on this page. As much as everyone wants Roy out, hoping the team lose just to see the back of him is disgraceful! and passing judgement on the owners before they've even had a chance to do anything with the playing squad! I thought we had the best fans in the country. Never mind the ironic jeering of Konchesky on Wednesday, as woeful a player he may be, he wears that shirt so should be supported.

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31 Dec 2010 17:25:15
I would like to make small point with the rafa takin us for 6 mill. . . . i for one would of taken it outta the yonks hands aswell. . . . maybe that's bad towards the club but i bet it felt he was getting one over the yonk l* * ds! ! that's all

it'll come good soon like take that says 'have a little patience'! !

matty b

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31 Dec 2010 17:23:19
Hodgson will not survive the weekend as Liverpool manager. Expect SAF in a news conference to criticise the club and fans for getting his friend sacked. Remember last year after Rafa criticised Allardyce for the qaulity of Blackburn's play (and also the signal Rafa made to Alonso the season before after Liverpool scored v Blackburn) and Fergie then attacked Rafa. It'll happen again.

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31 Dec 2010 17:22:31
Liverpool Rumours
Noel Edmonds will be confirmed as new liverpool football club manager on Monday with Mr Blobby being draughted in as his assistant. Roy Hodgson will be taking up a new managerial role. . . In a new branch of subway.

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31 Dec 2010 17:14:16
That's the conundrum LAVERS is it a good thing if get beat by Bolton? I hope we win of course but i'm with you i can't see it happening.


Tom Werner and John Henry both sat in the Lfc.tv studios and said results were "unacceptable and had to improve". Now nearly 3 weeks on our results have not improved if anything they have got worse along with the performances but still Roy is at our club.


Blair Mayne YNWA

I know I'm wrong to say this but yeah I do want us to lose Blair. Say we scrape a win and then we beat blackburn we all know we will go and lose a couple of games again. Roy is not going to get the team winning week in week out. We got on abit of a run then we lose to mighty wolves 1 point away all season, if we win tomorrow were papering over the cracks cus we know round the corner we will lose a few. It's best for us to lose tomorrow if it means Roy goes.

LAVERS

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31 Dec 2010 17:12:23
Liverpool Rumours
My contact has given me information about the team set to line up tomorrow against Bolton. He has heard we will line up with the following team. .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Johnson. . . . .Skrtel. . . . . Kyrgiakos. . . .Konchesky

Kuyt. . . . . .Meireles. . . . . . . Lucas*. . . . . . .Maxi

. . . . . . . . . . .Torres. . . . . . Babel. . . . . . . . . .

Both Gerrard and Cole have picked up knocks with both players having aggravated recent injuries. Joe Cole will probably definitely be out of the game although Gerrard is rated 50/ 50 at the moment. It is quite likely that he won't be risked based on medical advice. Should he be deemed fit, he will play alongside Meireles and Lucas drop to the bench.

Babel will be given the chance to play alongside Torres as Hodgson apparently wants to use the pace of the front two players to try and exploit Bolton's defence.

Bradley

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31 Dec 2010 17:11:33
Come on boys time for calm I want Roy out too but let's give nesv time. Remember the best decisions are calculated and to make them takes time. They don't want Roy just like we don't but let's bide time and see what decisions they make. This season is a disaster Roy has taken us backwards so we need to rebuild and who ever comes in will need time. If our so called better players can't live for a season or 2 without the over hyped champions league then sell and get the money. Then we rebuild with players that want to play for the famous shirt.

Come on let's stick together and get through this

LFC1

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31 Dec 2010 17:06:51
31 Dec 2010 11:11:16
Liverpool Rumours
"The Madness of King Roy IX"

Forgive me if I wander a tad this morning.
Been listening to talkSPORT and the debate about our manager.
I still can't work out if Mike Parry really is thick or plays the fool to boost his position and income at the station.
Mick Dennis with him this morning and I appreciate his sage comments about our fans: he was right to say that fans who think they are special 'special fans' are insulting the rest of the fans supporting rival clubs. It has always been true of the Geordie fans and we do not want to be seen in that light.
In fact, yesterday, one LFC fan said on radio during a phone-in that certain players were "not Liverpool type of players" and "didn't understand the Liverpool way."
As a supporter of 40 years plus - I say that is drivel.

The 'Liverpool way' is just winning football. We have played (and they have played like us) like Arsenal and Real Madrid, but so have Everton, Lille and Sparta Prague. It is a delusion to think we have a special way of playing - it is special when you win! 'Liverpool type of players'?
Don't understand that one either.
Players become Liverpool players when they sign for us. When Torres and Barnes were starting out as players, no-one said, "they are Liverpool type players!"
Stop this nonsense.
The way we play and the type of players we like are often dictated by the manager. If Mourinho or van Gaal joined us, our 'Liverpool type of player' would change. Especially so if we started winning more often.

This all stemmed from my listening to talkSPORT this morning. Just a few words if I may about this station.

Why do they believe that Ronnie Irani MUST dive in with the hellos whenever his co-presenter greets an interviewee? As far as my media training went, the person is waiting for one man to talk to, not his sidekick. Irani is dragging the station ratings down and yet the powers that be seem oblivious - or are they?

Finally, the callers this morning to talk to Parry were greeted with "hurry up, we have to move on quickly" before they even opened their mouths.
Is talkSPORT simply interested in quantity rather than the quality of the calls.
It disturbs the nervous caller and suggests that they have something or someone very special waiting so they have to clear others off the line!
Why do this?
Why can they not continue the debates without the interruptions (an Irani speciality by the way that breaks the flow and loses many a good point of discussion) and work on the topics rather than number of calls?

I don't believe talkSPORT is an anti-LFC station; I do believe they are interested more in controversy they start to generate income through phone calls rather than the core of the issues.

Steve Parker
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I generally enjoy talksport. Both Brazil and Irani are harmless really, although they never gave liverpool any credit over the Rafa era doing well in the champions league for those 6 years. The most anti Liverpool presenter on Talksport is Mark Saggers who ever since his days on Sky news in the late 90s has always been very unbalanced against Liverpool.
Throughout the Houllier, Benitez and Hodgson eras talksport has always taken an anti Liverpool agenda. As a Liverpool fan you just have to bite your lip.

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31 Dec 2010 17:06:27
I will not be watching the game tommorow or any more this season thanks to the yick head roy hodgson, i would not be supprised if he played the samel style and sqaud he did against wolves, i can't see were our next win is coming from, my interest for this liverpool is fading fast, my son said why are liverpool always loosing, they are rubbish i had no answer or responce because its the truth, liverpool are the worst team in the league and if it carries on we deserve to get relegated.as for the transfer window there is no point getting world class players for roy to turn them in to sunday league pub players.

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31 Dec 2010 17:00:16
31 Dec 2010 11:17:22
Maybe we should stand back and view the whole picture. back in the 80s we had a very god side, mainly british players, today we have a multi national side who have no passion apart from the capt marvel and carra. The players in todays team would never get into the teams of the past, this team was built by rafa, all the young talent were mainly foreign, and have not made the grade why is that? look where rush came from, one of many emlyn hughes is another. I think that roy is right in getting young british talent, its the future, it just can't come quick enough at the moment. shelvy is a talent its just the pressure of success and the fan pressure that will make sure that young talent like that will never be successfull at liverpool. This squad rotation buisness is a laugh, you only need 16 players, play week in week out, learn from each other, know what is expected, if you get injured then fight to get your place back. Can we really afford a big squad, rather a small squad with quality fringe young players who would die for the chance of getting 15mins on a cold midweek night.english teams dominated europe in the 70s & 80s untill uefa decided to place a ban on us. these clubs
were mainly british players, england never won the world cup but europe hated to play against english teams. because of the passion pride and honour to play. Now its the in thing to find a centre half from anywhere in europe ( greece for f- - sake), there is plenty of talent in the lower leagues.

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31 Dec 2010 16:57:49
It's all part of the plan. John Henry said he wanted us to win the championship. In nesv I trust (not).

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31 Dec 2010 16:57:23
31 Dec 2010 16:42:00
Maybe nesv are waiting till after the bolton game to get rid of Roy. After wolves there was only 3 days until bolton game. I can't see us beating bolton tomorrow so hopefully he goes then. If he is to go then I'd expect it to happen that evening or Sunday if it doesn't happen then you have the same scenario as before cus we play blackburn Wednesday. So fingers crossed this wknd Roy goes back down south.

LAVERS
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That's the conundrum LAVERS is it a good thing if get beat by Bolton? I hope we win of course but i'm with you i can't see it happening.

Tom Werner and John Henry both sat in the Lfc.tv studios and said results were "unacceptable and had to improve". Now nearly 3 weeks on our results have not improved if anything they have got worse along with the performances but still Roy is at our club.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 16:56:38
Roy Hodgson is our Mike Walker, our Juande Ramos, our Christian Gross, our Joseph Venglos, our Willf Mcguinness, our Bruce Rioch.

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31 Dec 2010 16:48:56
Liverpool Rumours
Cant believe these are the two players we're linked with!

This is an absolute joke, neither player are remotely gud enuff for liverpool. We'll be relegated a this rate

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31 Dec 2010 16:42:00
Maybe nesv are waiting till after the bolton game to get rid of Roy. After wolves there was only 3 days until bolton game. I can't see us beating bolton tomorrow so hopefully he goes then. If he is to go then I'd expect it to happen that evening or Sunday if it doesn't happen then you have the same scenario as before cus we play blackburn Wednesday. So fingers crossed this wknd Roy goes back down south.

LAVERS

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31 Dec 2010 16:31:53
LFC team v Bolton needs to be :

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . Johnson. . . Kelly. . . .Agger. . . Aurelio. . . .

. . . . . . . . . . .Meireles. . .Gerrard. . . . . . . . . . .

. . Babel. . . . . . . . . Pacheco. . . . . . Eccleston. .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Torres. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


This team could win the match in the right way .

1977

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31 Dec 2010 16:30:44
Liverpool Rumours
I think Cara should be Appointed as the next manager let's face it his best days are over on the pitch. Then let camoli take care of the transfers. Maybe get someone with a bit more Experience as his number 2 like Phil Thompson. What do u think?

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31 Dec 2010 16:30:11
Dec 2010 16:15:16
First things first. Liverpool need to sack Roy now. We have got plently of great players at LFC. They are been asked to play like a Sunday league team. Im getting so sick of waiting for the yellow line on the bottom of SSN.

BloodRedMatt
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You sound as frustrated as me BloodRedMatt. What is really scaring me is what happens if we sneak a 1-0 win against Bolton. And then draw away to Blackburn will Hodgson be still be at the helm i think he will you know.

My anger is no longer aimed at Hodgson it's aimed at NESV because no matter what why we look at it they are the only ones who can do anything about it.

NESV do the right thing before it's to late and you have no PL club to own. You will own a Championship side.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 16:29:18
Look who O'Neill took over at Celtic from, and what he did for them almost immediately.

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31 Dec 2010 16:20:45
This is a guy that stung us for 6 million in compo for being sacked

Get if fkng str8 u muppet, that was not a sting, we broke our contract with him.

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31 Dec 2010 16:19:53
If you were a Manager of a Company and made unnecessary public comments about your customers then you would most likely be sacked. RH made unnecessary comments about the fans and we are the customers. I rest my case as once again we are all in the headlines for the wrong reasons. Football should do our talking and we need three top class players in Jan.

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31 Dec 2010 16:20:45
This is a guy that stung us for 6 million in compo for being sacked

Get if fkng str8 u muppet, that was not a sting, we broke our contract with him.

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31 Dec 2010 16:19:53
If you were a Manager of a Company and made unnecessary public comments about your customers then you would most likely be sacked. RH made unnecessary comments about the fans and we are the customers. I rest my case as once again we are all in the headlines for the wrong reasons. Football should do our talking and we need three top class players in Jan.

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31 Dec 2010 16:18:05
You lot moan that torres isn't happy is it any wonder! ! ! ! 2 years ago we beat man u 4-1 at old trafford! ! now are losing at ANFIELD to wolves and blackpool oh don't forget northampton. SO IS IT HIS FAULT! ! THE LAD CANT WIN US TROPHIES ON HIS OWN. yes he was awful against wolves but so was everyone else i don't see u lot going Gerrards carp lets get rid and take the money joke the lot of u. & somebody even said come on BOLTON im sorry but if we lose to BOLTON we could be in bottom 3! is that wot u want! ! and stop this s* t about adam johnson city would want bout 25 mill 4 him waste we should be supporting our players and whoever joins in JAN

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31 Dec 2010 16:15:16
First things first. Liverpool need to sack Roy now. We have got plently of great players at LFC. They are been asked to play like a Sunday league team. Im getting so sick of waiting for the yellow line on the bottom of SSN.

BloodRedMatt

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31 Dec 2010 16:13:40
31 Dec 2010 15:50:22
How the Feck is Roy Still here, anyway team needs to be, I hate putting up teams but Roy were at home lets attack

Reina

Johnson Skrtel Agger Aurelio

Maxi Meireles Cole babel

Gerrard

Torres

Jim

1, 4, 4, 3 might just work, but who is this new signing Jim?

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31 Dec 2010 16:12:04
At the minute the players who look interested are lucas, glen, cole, maxi. kelly and agger would be interesting but hodgson wouldn't do it. but cole is injured but he is good enough he tries and never stops he wants to suceed but hodgson don't play him because he is too attack minded. and we shouldnt think of selling torres all he needs is confidence in players around him his team mates arent giving him amazing service and he hasnt got confidence. if we sold him it would bite us in the ass. new players in 2011 all we need is width and a striker and we should be back and firing, oh a new mangaer.

me14

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31 Dec 2010 16:10:15
Hey all id just like to say that Roys first big mistake was he was to friendly with ferguson, i wasnt a big rafa fan but i loved it when he came out giving out about ferguson and how he gets all the good calls during a match from the ref! !
His second biggest mistake was when ferguson gave out about torres diving trying to get o shea sent off and he didn't defend torres. .i think in that's when he first lost the players.
Also ed what u think of offering babel to birmingham in a straight swap for scott dann!
My team then would be
. . . . . . . . . . .reina. . . . . . . .
. . . . . kelly. . dann. . .agger. .
johnson. . . . .meireles. . . . aurelio
. . . . .cole. . gerrard. .marvereux
. . . . . . . . . .torres. . . . . .
That team would cost a mere 1.5 million for
marvereux!
what u think about that team and dann?

{Editor's Note: I don't comment on "teams" - Dann would be a good addition if available.}

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31 Dec 2010 16:05:47
Liverpool Rumours
Reina
kelly agger skrtel aurelio
johnson gerrard meireles cole
torres babel

that be my 11 tomorrow. res - 3-0

roys 11
reina
johnson soto skrtel agger
kuyt gerrard meireles maxi
torres ngog
res 1-1
what yea think ed. what would be ure first 11

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31 Dec 2010 16:00:29
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
In Reply:

Jesus! when we going to put an end to this sort of s* t posting! ?
My mate is a mate of a mate who knows a girl who is a mate of a mate of a mate of a woman who was in Liverpool 39 years ago and . . . . . . . . . . . .! ! ! ! ! ! {ed's note - a lot of people like those sort of postings, you don't have to take any notice of them.}

Rumours! ! that's how they start you stupid chap! .

Eds Keep up the good work Pity tripe like this gets through though.

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31 Dec 2010 15:59:35
Liverpool Rumours
Im just beginning to lose patience with liverpool.
marveaux never capped by france even when they had 23 players suspended. . and horau or whatever his name is. if we sign these players i bet ye in the summer ye will want to see the back of them, i know carlton cole is not great but whats to say hes he is better than these guys who knows.
keep this post in mind ed cause i will be proved right!
i prefer to give amoo r pacheco a game rather than sign these clowns!

{Editor's Note: Marveaux was injured for the French game that took place when the players were banned. I assume that you are not a Liverpool supporter - or is it now the in-thing to trash players before they have even signed for the club?}

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31 Dec 2010 15:59:35
Liverpool Rumours
RH has again mentioned top four which means another loss. The only difference is that he will be given the sack.

I also think the comoli appointment was a big mistake and only time will show us, we shall have disunity between the manager and comoli as well as all the scouts out there. One has already left, which shows that there is little believe in their ability to track the right candidates for us.

NESV have had their time to learn our tradition and its time to deliver? Three months down the road and very little to show except the Comoli appointment isn't what we need. The stadium issues has never been mentioned. This is critical to LFC's survival as a top class club, we can't compete with the elite of Europe financially nor are we attracting players to play for us. many have turned us down because we haven't got CL.
There is no seriousness from NESV in signing top players, my guess is that they are just buying time to sell LFC and make cash just like the previous owners.
Hope 2011 bring better times to Anfield and wish everyone a happy prosperous new year.

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31 Dec 2010 15:56:31
Whoever comes in should bring in Phil Thompson as assistant. Great knowledge and passion and just what we need. I would also add Carra to the coaching staff.

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31 Dec 2010 15:55:17
Hodgson out , carra as playermanager till may comolli -transfares then new manager and players and stadium if i was mr henry and co,

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31 Dec 2010 15:53:57
Why aint Roy sacked yet, cannot believe i am saying this, but aint looking forward to the bolton game with Roy there. Come NESV, your sports winners as u say, do the right thing.

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31 Dec 2010 15:50:22
How the Feck is Roy Still here, anyway team needs to be, I hate putting up teams but Roy were at home lets attack

Reina

Johnson Skrtel Agger Aurelio

Maxi Meireles Cole babel

Gerrard

Torres

Jim

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31 Dec 2010 15:46:59
Torres is worth whatever we ask for him £45m or more. He is under contract and I for one couldn't give a s* t if he wants to leave or not. We have let Masch and Alonso go like nojheads and the side folded before we had time to get in players capable of doing anything. I don't see Man City letting Tevez go and I don't see Utd bending over to Rooney like we did. We are h*cking mugs. We deal with things like this poorly and don't get nearly enough out of the deals. So what if it stops him loving us? I couldn't give a h*ck. I want the lad scoring goals for our club if he goes then that's when I stop giving a s*eep.

Same as the ex players. Yer most of them were great players but that's where it ends - when they stop playing. h*cking sick of these free tickets going to them to see them sat there on MOTD miserable hands in their pockets saying h*ck all. h*cking Aldridge is she*p on the Radio I never know where the h*cking ball is. As for Gerrard and Carragher maybe its time we moved them on. I can't imagine players look at them admirably when they make mistakes but get given man of the match every week regardless. Time to start being honest with ourselves because if we don't it is all going to be over regardless of ownership or anything else.

Spriggo

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31 Dec 2010 15:45:00
Liverpool Rumours
We have all heard this speculation about Torres leaving many times before because he is unhappy. This can be fixed but i think action has to be NOW and not later. As a lifelong Liverpool fan, i'm also unhappy with watching us get outplayed by the likes of Wolves & Blackpool, not to mention Newcastle!. I can understand if Torres wants to leave BUT i can almost guarantee that would not be the case if NESV sack the manager for a caretaker & buy a couple of world class players, not in the summer but NOW. I'm sure any new manager would love to have the likes of Aguero in the team. Message to NESV is simple, take action now as leaving it will only worsen the position of the club and our ability to attract the cream of the crop.

Sack Dodgson and Sammy lee, get in Dalglish and Thompson in as temporary manager and coach(subject to achievements) and buy some quality talent NOW.

DO IT!.


The Roachmiester

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31 Dec 2010 15:41:54
Does anybody think its time to play Wilson and Kelly, Skrtel and Kyrgiakos is obviously not working?

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I think a centre back partnership of :

. . . . . . . .Martin Kelly. . .Daniel Agger. . . . . . . . .

has to be implemented , backed and given the time required to establish itself as first choice for the long term .

Martin Kelly is ready to play and compete , he would clearly be more comfortable at centre back and appears ready to excel in the first team , he is ready to defend naturally and looks to play the ball in the right way .

There is definately something in a Kelly & Agger defence .

1977

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31 Dec 2010 15:40:41
Liverpool Rumours
I know the mirror isn't exactly the most reliable of sources, but it says nesv will give roy 2 weeks to save his job. that would mean that any new manager to come in would only have half of a transfer window to do business. now i know transfers arent solely within the managers hands, but he would need a big say in the kind of players we need for certain positions, which is why waiting 2 weeks will not help. to keep him until the end of the season could be disastrous, we need rid now, let gerrard pick the team tomorrow and appoint a replacement after the game. i know the question is who? in all honesty, does it matter? a 1 eyed donkey with an inferiority complex could do a better job than roy.

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31 Dec 2010 15:40:31
Liverpool Rumours
With the expected arrivals of marveaux and hourau where dose that leave Babel, Maxi and J.Cole?

{Editor's Note: I expect Babel will leave if a buyer can be found - the others are squad players like everyone else.}

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Why can't managers get the best out of babel, i can remember games when he looked untouchable, why is he so inconsistent. I belive if you give him a few starts with Torres up front he could be class. " Strike against Chelsea 4-4 from about 30yards out"

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31 Dec 2010 15:38:27
If these owners sell any of our better players in January then they are well ends. There is no time to re-invest the funds and we are in a battle to stay in the top half already. The Manager has been kept on for very little reason which is helping no fans optimism. They may know little about football but I expect some leadership and direction. Sort it out.

Spriggo

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31 Dec 2010 15:36:51
I have a feeling of daysarview (spelling, lol). Rijkaard had joined barca with new owners and the first signing was Ronaldiniho. hmmmmmmmm. maybe it can happen again!

harry5:)ynwa

{Editor's Note: Deja Vu - and it won't happen at Liverpool.}

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31 Dec 2010 15:35:47
All the talk of signing players such as :

Elia , Honda , Gervinho , Marveaux and Young et al .

Roy Hodgson would hardly allow any of them to perform .

It might be cruel signing such players and then asking them to do what Roy Hodgson wants players to do .

Who would have thought that Fernando Torres could be a bad player - before Roy Hodgson arrived ?

1977

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31 Dec 2010 15:29:31
Cannot believe you people want Rafa back. Okay he is a good tactician but he can't sign good players and has a love for boardroom politics, from my point of view he belongs in Parliament rather than the Liverpool hotseat. Also King Kenny has not managed in years and giving him the job may be a mistake as he has been out the game for too long. I am not a fan of Woy, he is a nice guy

the lower leagues are full of teams who's managers are nice guys.whats your point??
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My point is that he has a mid table manager mentality and we need a manager who has a proven track record in a good league not the Finnish League or Swiss League. Also the manager we get has to play good football.

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31 Dec 2010 15:27:08
Liverpool Rumours
Just a thought: sell torres for £45 mil (which is what the club rates him) and buy two or three class players with that money. Why keep a player who is clearly unhappy, when we can get so much money for him. There are plenty of players like Honda and Turan who have said they would love to play for liverpool. That is the kind of attitude we need.

Agree, bel
Disagree, unbel

Your thoughts ed?

{Editor's Note: He is not worth £45M at present - Manchester City may pay it, but I doubt any of the Italian sides would pay that much.}

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31 Dec 2010 15:26:40
Does anyone think joachim loew would be a good manager for liverpool. . .at least we'd have a go. and with time might become entertaining. agree or disagree??

{Editor's Note: He is not going to leave the German national side with teh Euros coming up.}

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31 Dec 2010 15:25:30
Liverpool Rumours
Does anybody think its time to play Wilson and Kelly, Skrtel and Kyrgiakos is obviously not working?

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31 Dec 2010 15:23:27
Liverpool Rumours
Ed. if there is a signing tomorrow, would he be allowed to play against bolton?

{Editor's Note: He can play once his registration has been transferred to Liverpool and lodged with the FA. This would not happen in time to play tomorrow.}

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31 Dec 2010 15:17:57
Liverpool Rumours
31 Dec 2010 14:45:11
Liverpool Rumours
Honda and Elia have apparently said they want to join Liverpool , 2 fantastic players. . . so why havent we gone all out to get them?
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If we can maybe add Coantrao, Dann and a top class striker. Gomes, Aguero(doubtfull), Benzema to the above, 2011 will be an very interesting year.

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31 Dec 2010 15:06:20
Liverpool Rumours
Hey people as much as I hate to admit it the board will not act until a CEO is in place to handle all the poop that will hit the fan once roy is giving his marching orders and as for players in and out lets not get ahead of ourselfs until we can get a manager who has some muscle and a board willing to back him liverpool are and I hate to even think it are just avrage team with avrage players with a manager who is way over his head

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31 Dec 2010 15:03:46
Liverpool Rumours
If you ask me - let Torres go. . we've done better when he isn't playing, can get a squillion dollars and a couple of players for him and still spend! !

Also - Are people serious about Rafa returning?? He was the man responsible for putting us into this position in the first place (albeit Yank owners included). . he's a dud!

Honda, Ganso and Van Wolswinkel please!

One last thing. . why is everyone bagging Glen Johnson, he is the only decent fullback we have whilst Carra is injured. . the rest are too fidgety.

Said my peace :)
Long live Craig Johnson 10!

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31 Dec 2010 15:01:43
Ed, i can't click the buttons on your pages, do i have to change my settings in some way? {ed's note - I will get them looked at, seems to be some kind of problem with them.}


Sorry to interfere , but its possible the problem is with the browser and not the site.
To use the believe / agree buttons you need to have enabled javascript on your browser.
These buttons are working for me and many others (based on a quick scan of the stats)
Roy {ed's note - thank you for that Roy, I never thought of that.}

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31 Dec 2010 15:00:57
Liverpool Rumours
Ed what do u think bout owen coyle as a liverpool manager, hes team plays good attacking play, he is very vocal and players respect him, has done a great job at boltan in a short period of time with little r no budget and was a club in s* t? {ed's note - he is definitely someone we should be considering, he has impressed me greatly.}

I disagree as good as he has been for Bolton it will just be another Roy situation all over again, Bolton are a mid table team as are Fulham. Liverpool needs a bigger manager to attract world class players something I can't see Owen doing. {ed's note - the club attracts the players, not the manager. The difference between Roy and Coyle is that Coyle plays good attacking football, Roy is extremely defensive.}

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31 Dec 2010 14:59:34
Liverpool Rumours
Roy keeps harping on about his 35 year experience, I just checked out his record boy he is s* te. The way he goes on about himself you would have thought hes won every trophy going. Roy does us a favour and leave you look tired pal you need to think of your health.

LAVERS

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31 Dec 2010 14:58:05
I'd never want Liverpool to lose. I am no Bolton fan. The writing is on the wall for Mr Hodgeson regardless. I would love to see us throw caution to the wind and go for it, give us a performance. We can forgive an unlucky result with effort. We had neither against Wolves and for many of our poor results. Go forward and create lads.

Spriggo

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31 Dec 2010 14:56:00
Liverpool Rumours
Martin oneil would jump at the chance to manage liverpool he the right man to get us back into the top 4

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31 Dec 2010 14:52:54
Alan hansen for new liverpool boss with jamie carragher as his number 2

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31 Dec 2010 14:49:22
Liverpool Rumours
Ok, Hodgson has tried and failed. With Mark hughes surely nearing the sack at Fulham, i can see that Roy could return to Fulham with little harm done.
Dalglish would be fine until the end of the season just to settle unhappy players and fans, with phil thompson, Ian rush or Roy Evans as assistant.
I see no point in taking things any further with Roy as he has no support from fans or players and desrves a bit more respect for being a reasonabale english coach.
The german guy Joachim Lowe would be in my opinion a good young attack minded coach to start afresh with in the summer. What say you ED? {ed's note - I do think Loew would be an excellent choice, but I really can't see him leaving Germany.}

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31 Dec 2010 14:49:14
I really don't understand all the clamour for Hodson to be sacked etc., etc. Look NESV bought the club knowing what a huge job needs doing, and they are around for the long term. We did not qualify for the CL last season with a stronger side, and I fully believe the new owners do not expect us to qualify this season.

As the like of Man City, Spurs and others have got immensely stronger, we have gone so far backwards it's not true.

The league table does not lie, we are in a relegation battle, so please will everyone stop talking about 'we are Liverpool' - it means nothing.
Any team fancies their chances against us now, even at home, we are so devoid of character.
NESV will be looking at a 5 year plan at least, and unlike the Sheiks are not after short termism.

Make no bones about it Liverpool are in danger of being relegated this season, so it is a good thing we have owners with a long vision for the future.

If we lose to Bolton we could actually drop into the bottom 3. A while ago I posted asking who really thought we would get 6 points from the 4 games against Fulham, Blackpoo;, Wolves and Bolton. I know a couple of these games were cancelled, and I for one am glad, because I don't think we would get even 3/ 4 points from all these games.

Let's be really honest, the way we are playing currently makes us one of, if not the worst team in the league.

KBL

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31 Dec 2010 14:47:25
Liverpool Rumours
I was just watching Roy on sky sports news and he said he doesn't expect any signings in the near future he wants to wait and get the right player for Liverpool fc if Roy is sacked I would lime Martin oneil look at the villa now without him just shows how good he was and maybe he's the man to get us into the top 4 {ed's note - Villa are in trouble now because of the mess he made of the club!!}

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31 Dec 2010 14:47:08
New manager is sitting on our doorstep and its not rafa , its david moyes , bit of a stink getting him but hey everton fans lifes a bi. . , . top guy who has learnt his trade and now needs to step up to a real ftbl club .

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31 Dec 2010 14:39:35
Hey Maka and ed. Thanks for your replies.
I agree with you ed. We should build a team around our stars. One more star striker and one star defender would do. The rest can be players on the rise- Hazard, banega, subotic, ilsinho, young, lavezzi, santon, sakho to pick a few.
Maka. I agree with you too mate. I just hope you are dead right. . LFC needs torres in smashing form. Note- He has seemed to be stable fitness wise. Thanks to god. I hope he realises the legend inside him that can single handedly win matches. Like he did many a time towards the end of last season when he scored some 8-9 goals in 4-5 matches. .
I badly wish roy is out asap. I believe we can convince torres to stay for another year even if we are out of europe next year, as long as we can get a good manager who ll make him feel like spain at lfc.

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31 Dec 2010 14:30:16
Liverpool Rumours
Just a quick buzz on the signing senario. . . . . . . . . if we are interested in the likes of honda and others why havent we signed them before the jan window. . .is it just because were not that much of an attractive club anymore. . . . . . . happy new year lads. . . . . walk on. . . . . .

Its probably cause he'll be away for the asian championship anyways so no use buying him in jan. but a pre contract should be made. its so simple with him. hes considered one of asias best and hes actually good . young . can play a number of positions. good to raise revenue from the asian markets and not that expensive. its such a no brainer don't know what comoli's doing

True Red

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31 Dec 2010 14:30:02
Ed, i can't click the buttons on your pages, do i have to change my settings in some way? {ed's note - I will get them looked at, seems to be some kind of problem with them.}

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31 Dec 2010 14:29:13
Cannot believe you people want Rafa back. Okay he is a good tactician but he can't sign good players and has a love for boardroom politics, from my point of view he belongs in Parliament rather than the Liverpool hotseat. Also King Kenny has not managed in years and giving him the job may be a mistake as he has been out the game for too long. I am not a fan of Woy, he is a nice guy

the lower leagues are full of teams who's managers are nice guys.whats your point?? ??

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31 Dec 2010 14:27:58
Im sorry to say this, but i really hope we lose to Bolton as i don't want to see Hodgson get any more lifelines in his battle to play sunday league tactics.

If this is what it will take to finally get him out then ill drink to that - come on Bolton!

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31 Dec 2010 14:27:33
Liverpool Rumours
Reina

johnson skrtel agger aurelio

meireles gerrard cole

babel torres jovanovic

play a fluid 4-3-3 with players in the positions they were bought for esp. at home. Make Gerrard the centre point of the side and the start of all attacks. makes the best of what we got until we get new faces and stop being scared of the h* * *g opposition. WE ARE LIVERPOOL! ! YNWA.

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31 Dec 2010 14:25:48
Has everyone forgotten rthat Rafa was negative also. . true what they say - You should never go back. To be hypoctitical I would give Kenny a chance as I think he would endorse a creative and attacking style. But we need someone new and young and if we can re-introduce the Boot Room mentality and some Liverpool stalwarts. .Hyypia, Rush etc back into the club in coaching roles all the better for us!

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31 Dec 2010 14:24:37
John Toshack
Roy Evans
Paul Ince
Kevin Keegan
Gary McAllister
Marcello Lippi
Marco Van Basten
Maradonna - he will bring sexy football
Jurgen Klinsman
Steve Mclarren
Markus Babbel
Frank Rijkaard
Alan Hansen
Joachim Low


I would also like to see coaching roles for:

Sami Hyppia
Didi Hamann
Robbie Fowler
Bruce Grobalaar
Ian Rush

Do any of the list of managers stand out?

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maka

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31 Dec 2010 14:22:27
Liverpool Rumours
Hi,

I cannot believe you people want Rafa back. Okay he is a good tactician but he can't sign good players and has a love for boardroom politics, from my point of view he belongs in Parliament rather than the Liverpool hotseat. Also King Kenny has not managed in years and giving him the job may be a mistake as he has been out the game for too long. I am not a fan of Woy, he is a nice guy but has mid table manager mentality.

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31 Dec 2010 14:20:36
Liverpool Rumours
King Kenny Dalglish is Ambassador and Head
of Football Development at Liverpool.

Matt Wollacott

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31 Dec 2010 14:19:39
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed, just rewatched the wolves game on lfc tv. Apart from it being an absolutely disgraceful display, did anyone see roy hodgson laughing at the end with the 4th official? Disgusted me. .

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31 Dec 2010 14:18:59
Liverpool Rumours
Sorry it is Tues 4th. Cant reveal source but this is what I have been told. RED77

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31 Dec 2010 14:18:31
Ed. Was watching the replay of the wolves match and can easily conclude that torres is simply not one bit happy to be here. . He has reached the breaking point and is becoming frustrated and showing it too.
Couple of such instances during the game were-
Meireless made a pass to him(standing right outside the penalty box). Pass wasnt the greatest, but ok. But torres doesn even make an attempt which he would do when he plays wit some interest. . And after that he glares at meireless.
2. During a corner soto and him were embracing each other and you could see him screaming at soto to move and let him roam in the box like he always does. Soto dint listen, he moved off to approach the ball after the corner was taken. While torres stood his ground and showed explicit signs of exasperation. He dint make an attempt to get into position even if it meant he would be in the wrong place. 3. When Ngog shot from outside the penalty box was blocked , he was having acres of space. He was beggin for the ball and had he recieved it he would hat buried it cos of the position he was in, even if he was in the worst of his form. Clearly it was Ngogs fault. He has always been trying to do stuff solo. He never passes and I can understand torres's exasperation in this case. He showed his frustration here too. . He is clearly unhappy with the shining of konchessky.
Ed. I am a childhood fan of torres. Even when he was a teenager at atletico. I am a huge fan of his. And I foot want him to leave at any cost. Even if it meant that the club held him at higher position than anythin. I wish he has showdownn talks with the owners and indicates he lover the club and wants to stay. I don't mind bringin a couple of players of his choice but I wouldn't lose him. At any cost. Why? Just look through his performances in the last two years when he has played with that passion for the club. And if the club does things to bring back that passion he ll be back to his devastating best. What do you guys think? {ed's note - the club is bigger than a player, if he has to leave then so be it, though personally I would sell dross like Kyrgiakos, Konchesky, Skrtel etc and build the team around Torres, Reina, Gerrard.}- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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er, mate don't think ya realised that that particular pass (i do no the one you mean) was bout 5m to torres' right…and recently he has stated that he loves liverpool and has no intention of leaving. the reason HE is not playing well is because the TEAM is not playing well under hodgson's negative tactics. im suprised no-one on this site noticed that in one of the euro 2012 qualifiers not too long ago torres scored a hatrick, and he did that because he was surrounded by fantastic team. to make liverpool like that again we will need new signings to play around the likes of gerrard, torres, reina, meireles etc. and get rid of roy and his 5h!t tactics to improve the team and torres' performances.

maka

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31 Dec 2010 14:16:51
Liverpool Rumours
Get NESV out - this is what you will all be saying by the end of Jan guarenteed, all is not what it seems, trust me.

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31 Dec 2010 14:14:42
Snoopy Max

"Having said that, the players need to take an equal share of the blame. 8 of the players who started against Wolves beat Real Madrid 4-0!"

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That is the point snoopy, you have to ask why the whole team is not performing as well as we all know they can. The problem is somewhere at the top, and not just Roy, I do think we need change to the coaching team including Sami Lee.

Roy

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31 Dec 2010 14:13:17
Liverpool Rumours
Managers to consider:

John Toshack
Roy Evans
Paul Ince
Kevin Keegan
Gary McAllister
Marcello Lippi
Marco Van Basten
Maradonna - he will bring sexy football
Jurgen Klinsman
Steve Mclarren
Markus Babbel
Frank Rijkaard
Alan Hansen
Joachim Low


I would also like to see coaching roles for:

Sami Hyppia
Didi Hamann
Robbie Fowler
Bruce Grobalaar
Ian Rush

Do any of the list of managers stand out?

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31 Dec 2010 14:06:21
What was Roy Hodgson' apology all about ?

Everybody heard the interview given to the BBC and another given to SKY where Roy Hodgson said exactly the same things during long winded responses .

His apology sounds awful .

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31 Dec 2010 14:06:09
Liverpool Rumours
Unless performances don't drastically improve soon Roy will be gone, if they do improve, he will be there until the end of the season.Nesv won't knee jerk unless they really have to.In an ideal world i would want hiddink, but that's not going to happen so possible new gaffers could include Martin O Neill or Steve Nicol.Michael Laudrup would also be a good call-at least we would start to play some decent football again, as well as being a big name capable of enticing big name players to the club. Is Pellegrini attached to a club at the moment?I heard he made a good impression when he was interviewed in the summer.

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31 Dec 2010 14:02:58
What the f*cks going on, why hasn't Roy gone?
We lost to Northampton Roy should have gone.
We lost to Blackpool Roy should have gone.
We were in the bottom 3 Roy should have gone.
We lost to Wolves Roy should have gone.
We've lost 8 games in the league Roy just go.

What the f*ck had Roy got to do to embarass the club, take us to plum bottom, run round the pitch stark bollock naked rubbing his face singing "she sells sea shells on the seashore"

It's like we have stepped back in time to when hicks and gillet were here and we cudnt get rid of them.

The scum are sat back laughing at us as we self destruct again while they are making room in there trophy cabinet for number 19.

Come on Mr.Henry show us some of that fight and determination you showed when buying the club and fire this manager.

RedAk1

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31 Dec 2010 14:02:35
31 Dec 2010 12:41:30
Anyone here planning on boycotting the Bolton game or the next home games if Roy isn't sacked? Why not show Fenway/ NESV how we really feel by not attending the game. The potential loss of future revenue would have a much greater impact than turning up to jeer and boo the current set-up.

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Only singing when you're winning comes to mind. You should cheer on and support the team regardless of how well we are playing. It's hard to watch at the moment but we musn't give up!

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31 Dec 2010 13:57:27
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
I heard from a usually reliable source that during the summer Torres wanted out and that a sort of "gentlemens agreement" was struck whereby if Liverpool failed to qualify for Champions League Football at the end of this season AND a bid of €50M was put on the table by a non-English club then he would be free to go. It looks like the first part will almost certainly come true - failing to qualify for CL - so if someone steps up to the mark in the summer with the money then we'll lose Torres.

RED LENIN


If Torres doesn't buck his ideas up, then no-one is going to pay 30+ for him, let alone 50+. . He needs to stop sulking on the pitch (I know the service isn't there, but he doesn't help himself) and fight for the Club, Fans and Shirt. .us fans idiolise him and want him to turn his game around and hopefully if the service improves, he'll bang them in like he did in his first two seasons. . .
On another note, Tomorrows game against Bolton, could be a trial run for our next manager - Owen Coyle. . . . Here's hoping we win. . . . but only for the fact we need three points and confidence for the following tie against Manure. . . .

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31 Dec 2010 13:53:30
Sometimes when you do your best and you find your out of your depth , you have to come to the conclusion that you are not good enough. .sooo. mr hodgson. .please. come to some mutial agreement with the club and leave as soon as possible. .
agree or disagree redmen. . .

Yes, totally agree. Roy has always tried to maintain that he is a decent guy. If he had any deceny or even some self respect he would have resigned after the Wolves game. Hanging on just gives the impression he is after a pay out.

Speaking of which, that is why I am bemused by calls for RAFA to come back. This is a guy that stung us for 6 million in compo for being sacked. There is no way he would come back on a short term basis with little decision over tranfers. He demands total control. Anyway, he was bequithed a side at Inter that had won the league for the last 4 years running and he's ruined them. Let's not forget that he's partly responsible for the culture of deep malaise currently at LFC.

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31 Dec 2010 13:49:22
Liverpool Rumours
Ed. Was watching the replay of the wolves match and can easily conclude that torres is simply not one bit happy to be here. . He has reached the breaking point and is becoming frustrated and showing it too.
Couple of such instances during the game were-
Meireless made a pass to him(standing right outside the penalty box). Pass wasnt the greatest, but ok. But torres doesn even make an attempt which he would do when he plays wit some interest. . And after that he glares at meireless.
2. During a corner soto and him were embracing each other and you could see him screaming at soto to move and let him roam in the box like he always does. Soto dint listen, he moved off to approach the ball after the corner was taken. While torres stood his ground and showed explicit signs of exasperation. He dint make an attempt to get into position even if it meant he would be in the wrong place. 3. When Ngog shot from outside the penalty box was blocked , he was having acres of space. He was beggin for the ball and had he recieved it he would hat buried it cos of the position he was in, even if he was in the worst of his form. Clearly it was Ngogs fault. He has always been trying to do stuff solo. He never passes and I can understand torres's exasperation in this case. He showed his frustration here too. . He is clearly unhappy with the shining of konchessky.
Ed. I am a childhood fan of torres. Even when he was a teenager at atletico. I am a huge fan of his. And I foot want him to leave at any cost. Even if it meant that the club held him at higher position than anythin. I wish he has showdownn talks with the owners and indicates he lover the club and wants to stay. I don't mind bringin a couple of players of his choice but I wouldn't lose him. At any cost. Why? Just look through his performances in the last two years when he has played with that passion for the club. And if the club does things to bring back that passion he ll be back to his devastating best. What do you guys think? {ed's note - the club is bigger than a player, if he has to leave then so be it, though personally I would sell dross like Kyrgiakos, Konchesky, Skrtel etc and build the team around Torres, Reina, Gerrard.}

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31 Dec 2010 13:49:00
Liverpool Rumours
People who are purely putting this down to the team (and there are some) are missing the point. This when they cross the white line nonsense, If it was just down to the players then there would be no need for a manager, the club at boardroom level could decide which are the best starting 11 and just let them get on with it. Players need tactics formations instructions about the opposing team and there players an arm round the shoulder or a bollocking, in other words a LEADER. So for me THE BUCK STOPS WITH THE MANAGER, END OF. Players are no angels we know but they need managing correctly which is why you have poor managers and fantastic managers, I think we all no which box hodgson ticks with regard to that comment. WAKE UP NESV BEFORE IT'S TO LATE.

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31 Dec 2010 13:47:48
Liverpool Rumours
Not a rumour, just an observation.
There seems to be a lot said and written recently about the situation Liverpool find themselves in.
the finger of blame has been pointed in a number of directions.
H & G for being a pair of muppets.
The fans for having unrealistic expectations.
Rafa for making some poor signings and leaving a poor squad behind.
The truth is that by our own standards we have a weak squad. However, it is the job of the manager to get the most out of the players and make them play as a cohesive unit. Our team/ squad is better than 3/ 4 of the teams in the premiership. Woy just cannot get the best out of the players.
Football is not just about who has the best players, it is about how they play as a team. Quite frankly we do not play as a team.
Newcastle replaced Hughton, despite all he had done for them, searching for higher achievements. Does this mean they have more ambition than LFC? I hope not.
Having been a long distance fan of Liverpool for 30 years I want to see them win and/ or be entertained. Neither of these is happening.
I know it is not the Liverpool way but it is time for Woy to go even at this early stage.
there are no real replacements on the horizon for one reason or another.
The best candidate I can see is Owen Coyle with Kenny as an advisor just as Bob Paisley did in 1986.

RedKev

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31 Dec 2010 13:46:36
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Right lets get this straight RoY needs to go but Kenny is not the answer either in the sort or the longterm

This season is already a right off so now is the time to bring in a new manager to bring in new players and the yougsters get rid of the tosh and christ there is a lot of that and if Torres or anyone else wants to leave let them

Now is the time to build for the future

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31 Dec 2010 13:40:12
Its not all bad! im looking forward to travelling from dublin to liverpool hopefully to watch a new stadium and team being buillt up next year the people of liverpool are class and soon LFC will be great again .happy new year YNWA . .EVER.

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31 Dec 2010 13:36:43
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The problem with Roy is that he is neither a very respected manager like Arsene or Alex, nor a football legend like Van Basten or Maradonna. The reason why Guardiola is so successful is that, yes he has great players, but he is also a good tactician, and is also respected at Barcelona for what he did as a player. He is also a very cool, fashionable manager that looks great on the sidelines. I'm afraid rubbing your face and chin is not very cool, and does not send out any arrogance that the best teams play with.

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31 Dec 2010 13:34:40
Carra as manager with Paco as his assistant Raffas reign went down hill when paco left and the players all respected him

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31 Dec 2010 13:32:44
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No offence to Jamie or Roy Evans, But I would love to see them work together and hold their own at Bolton, Blackburn, or Burnley first. Dechamps would be my choice , Juventus or Chelsea will probably get him before us though. Owen Coyle would be my choice I think he would be a great shout., and deserves a chance at a bigger club.

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31 Dec 2010 13:30:56
Everyone suggests those managers sounded out for the post in the summer were discarded in favour of Roy Hodgson , but I wonder how many managers would have been prepared to sign a contract that allows them to be removed with minimal compensation at the drop of a hat , on the whim of whoever the new owners were going to be .

Surely only Kenny Dalglish and Roy Hodgson were prepared to do that - and for completely different reasons .

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31 Dec 2010 13:27:53
Dont forget Martin Oneil is available

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So what??

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31 Dec 2010 13:25:03
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Roy Hodgson for a new years O.B.E.
Out Before Easter !

LFC1

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31 Dec 2010 13:24:02
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Hi Ed's n all

Wanted to make my last post of 2010 as just say that NESV have some tough decisions to make now. Keeo Woy and hope things improve possibly based on any signings made in Jan or sack Woy and bring in the best of whats available at the moment. I would be more confident if we sacked Woy and didn't make any Jan than if we kept him and It doesn't look as though the players want to play for him, certainly not using the current tactics anyway. Surely one of the signs of a great manager is the ability to realise when your approach is not working and re-assess, not just plod on becasue it has worked well in the past.

Does anyone agree with me
Ed? What are you thoughts on that?

Happy new year to the Ed's and the best fans in the world.

laylandiai {ed's note - I agree with you, I can't see the results improving with Roy in charge, even if we had Messi, Ronaldo, Alonso, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa etc in the squad.}

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31 Dec 2010 13:19:30
Greatest ever LFC team .

. . . . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . . . . . .

. .Jones. . .Hansen. . Lawrenson. .Hughes. .

. .Liddell. . .Souness. . Dalglish. . Barnes. . .

. . . . . . . . .Keegan. . .Fowler. . . . . . . . .


1977

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31 Dec 2010 13:15:55
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Hodgson has just now really pissed me off. on the lfc website on the newest post it says 'Roy 'regret' at fan comments' in this interview he said how he DIDNT mention the fans and went on bout how its everyone elses fault but HIS OWN. wan(er……

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31 Dec 2010 13:15:04
@31 Dec 2010 11:42:30 Liverpool Rumours ""Ed i don't mind if this isn't posted but why does it say 'there was a problem with the request' every time i try click believable or unbelievable? and its not just from my computer as i have tried from several computers admittedly mac's not pc's. But cheers ed for the great site i check the site everyday, keep up the good work :) {ed's note - that is probably the answer, I don't use a mac so the programming has never been checked on one sorry. I will see if it can be fixed for you.}"

It does the same with google chrome. It doesn't actually mean anything of any concern. Your 'click has been counted and if you refresh the screen you'll see that the running total has gone up one. {ed's note - it never does it on my version of chrome, I will have that checked too.}

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31 Dec 2010 13:09:37
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31 Dec 2010 11:16:46
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Hey guys we all want hodgson to go right? but lets give it a rest until he is gone all these names being thrown around he isn't even gone yet. lets be talking about signings as the transfer window opens at 12pm tonight anything ed?? {ed's note - Marveaux and Hoaurau (spelling is probably wrong for both!) are the only ones I can be sure we have moved for.}


And here is us rhyming we were once best run club in the land, but ay least Blackburn know how to do things, you get rid ov manager then end up getting man in and hope for the best. Yes al be quiet until Roy goes. He doing such a great job and we all need to shut up!
Our club is in biggest mess since 1957, and you want us to shush as Roy hasn't gone yet, I FOR 1 WILL SHOUT AND SCREAM if that's what's needed, but I'd like to think we have a board and people that know how to do business, but as they don't know anything about football they need to be don't by the people that matter most, FANS. They will nit act until fans show them they want Roy gone, as they will feat back lash the clowns got after trying to rid rafa! It's the fans that have to make voice heard, for owners to act, and they need to act fast as far as am concerned. In Liverpool echo, the is a scale of success of PFC managers since the shanks. In that history there is one man on 60% win rate above every other manager we have had, and the worst thing is we still have him. He wants the job. He has the hunger for the job. He has the passion for the job. We have got everthing we need right in front of us. BRINGBACK THE KINK kENNY! !

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31 Dec 2010 13:07:20
I think all this anger stems from the under achievment of the last 20 years and to be frank. we've been a good cup team for that period. but im sick to death of four year plans, defensive managers, over-rated imposters being bought for and paid millions to produce dross every weekend. .we USED to be the "bastion of invincibility". .now we are a laughing stock. .rubbish manager. .some rubbish players who would not make championship level being made out to be future stars. . we're in the region of 12/ 14 players out and 10/ 11 in . . . sysmic change needed. . i wish we had players that played with passion. fire in the belly. a good first touch. .creativity. flare and guile. ambition . .that we'd go and attack with confidence and width. .with the ball on the deck. . who keep the ball. . .QUESTION:IS THERE A MANAGER OUT WHO CAN PROVIDE THIS FOR LFC? ?
if there is. .please apply to anfield as a matter of urgency. . REWARD:if you succeed you will become a demi-god and be idolised by millions all over the world. .i have hope in my heart

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31 Dec 2010 13:05:46
Carra is not for me I am affraid, even with Roy Evans as number 2. I just don't think he will be able to man manage players.What will his team talk consist of Win the fffin game, or i will send a fffin crew down from marsh lane.Win boys and Roy will come round and clean your cars.

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31 Dec 2010 13:04:16
Roy will be sacked (hopefully)

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31 Dec 2010 13:02:24
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Nobody wanted Hodgson to be Manager. What the fans wanted was an exciting, attack-minded manager to usher-in the post H&G era. What we've got is an unimaginative strait 442 manager. Please NESV take note - we don't want Hodgson.

Having said that, the players need to take an equal share of the blame. 8 of the players who started against Wolves beat Real Madrid 4-0!

Snoopy Max

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31 Dec 2010 12:59:27
To the person that said. .Dalgish had Paisley who would Carragher have. .er well Carragher would have Dalglish!

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31 Dec 2010 12:59:26
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Hear a stat that I wanted to share with you all.

Eight of the team that played against Wolves also played in the 4-0 Champions League victory of Real Madrid 20 (ish) months ago.

Manager or players?

The Booter

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Good post Booter!

And eight of the team that played against Wolves also played in the 1-4 drubbing of Man Utd the following week.

Manager or players?

FT

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31 Dec 2010 12:58:43
It looks like the owners will stick with Woy till the end of the season. They must though be concerned with the fact that the 95 per cent of fans want him gone. Henry made a big deal about listening, so it is time to just bombard him with messages to get Roy out.

The issue here is not whether any new manager will improve things immediately they will not. The facts are twofold. Woy just has no idea what he is doing and the players are not happy. Look at him on the touchline at every game, he just looks bemused. His comments in press conferences essentially assume LFC is just a normal team with limited expectations. Bad day at the office, my arse. Agaimst Wolves, the whole team formation was out of kilter from the start, Mierless has no idea on the wing and Kuyt was on the wrong side etc. Things have got so bad that any new manager will have a job to day, but we need someone with what the Yanks call a positive mental attitude. Roy appears to be and make us all feel depressed.

GET HIM OUT

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31 Dec 2010 12:56:59
Press, pass, move, attack & shoot = yes
Narrow, deep, counter-attack, back-foot = no

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31 Dec 2010 12:50:32
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Marveaux and HOARAU? ?

is Gerard Houllier back buying aload of french crap again

gary moon

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31 Dec 2010 12:44:17
Arise Sir Martin Broughton. I know its for his services to business but I include saving English football's greatest club in that. Well done Sir!

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Did he have anything to do with the appointment of RH?

FT

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31 Dec 2010 12:41:30
Anyone here planning on boycotting the Bolton game or the next home games if Roy isn't sacked? Why not show Fenway/ NESV how we really feel by not attending the game. The potential loss of future revenue would have a much greater impact than turning up to jeer and boo the current set-up.

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31 Dec 2010 12:41:18
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Reports suggest Hodgson will be sacked this weekend should Liverpool fail to beat Bolton, with Liverpool being just three points above the relegation zone following the shock 1-0 defeat at home to Wolves, owner J W H knows that it makes little sense to spend money on new players during January if Hodgson is to be sacked shortly after.

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Here we go again, roy is given yet another chance! NESV have the perfect chance and reason to sack him now after a home defeat to the former bottom club. But now if he wins against bolton, hes off the hook again, then wen he loses again against a poor team, it will be "if you don't win the next match. " again. NESV seem to forget we have lost 8 times already which is the most i have seen in many many years, europe is now luking impossible. This season is so important for our club, if we do poorly our top players will leave we won't be able to attract big stars and we will be fighting for relegation in a few years! NESV need to stop being a bunch of p* sies and make a big decision before the window opens!

E.H LFC

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31 Dec 2010 12:35:10
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Has any manager done so much damage in such a short time for any other club as Woy Hodgson?
He's negative in every aspect for Liverpool. His press conferences are a catalogue of errors. He's alienated the fans (big mistake) and seems to be doing the same with the players (equally big mistake - as once we start to loose those players it cannot be undone). He's turning the club into a championship team - something I would not have thought possible.
So what are the owners waiting for?
In the event of no permanent manager available now I, personally, would like to see Benitez back conditionally until the end of the season to see if he can turn things around, leaving both parties free to look at their options in May. Benitez' worst performances match Hodgson's best (only Chelsea being the exception).
Let's face it - it doesn't make any economic sense to keep a wholly unsuitable manager any longer as we will be out of Europe all together. He must go NOW.

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31 Dec 2010 12:27:26
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Afternoon ed.Roy thinks he can say sorry and alls well again . Don't think so, hate to say it but hope Bolton win tomorrow then he will have some real abuse and then the boot. Never want to see us lose but this would be for the best for are club.cheers psvelnino ps happy new year eds, and fellow reds

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31 Dec 2010 12:26:21
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Just to confirm on my last point look at signings of
Adebayor (Monaco-Arsenal £3m)
Arshavin (Zenit- Arsenal £15m)
Evra (Monaco-United £5.5m)
Vidic (Spartak-United £7m)
Boumsong (Rangers-Newcastle £8m)
Ashley Young (Watford- Villa £9.75m)

Moves can be made in Jan, theres even more if you look at loan deals. .!

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31 Dec 2010 12:24:23
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Hate to see my beloved liverpool in the press for all the wrong reasons. if as expected woy goes the next manager has to be right and long term.i don"t believe any manager would come till summer .so there is the million dollar question who do we turn to? dalglish (my hero) my heart says yes head says no. evans no way he couldn"t do it when we had the best team. so who!? ? coyle is the only one i can think of that seems right

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31 Dec 2010 12:16:22
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Win, Loose or draw against Bolton, Roy is leaving LFC. Following his remarks regarding the fans the board realise he has no way back. Transfers will still take place as its not just about Roy making the decisions.

However it is important that all reds get behind the team in full voice at Anfield and support the boys. We are in desperate need to get three points.

The days of big transfers being paid out are long gone. We need Damian etc to find the little gems that exist in the market and not to target 'media' players that continue to be seen on the internet and back of newspapers and the price continues to rise.

LFC will apppoint a new manager but a man with experience and someone who will share a long term vision with the club.

In the short term the owners are aware that the current negativity cannot go on and a short term replacement will be found (Kenny)

Torres and possibly Reina will leave in the summer. Although they love the club they both need new challenges and want to win trophies.

Whelan

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31 Dec 2010 12:06:36
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I think everyone on this site should all hand in reports to be manager…better than s* tty hodgson

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31 Dec 2010 12:04:03
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I want Roy out as much as or even more than most but if he was to keep the job, Id like to see us line up like this after Jan;

. . . . . . .Torres
. . . . . . . . . . Ruiz
Marveaux. . . . . . . . Babel
. . . .Aquilani. Gerrard
Taiwo. Agger. Carra. Johnson
. . . . . . . .Reina

With Aqua brought back and El Zhar, Poulsen, Jovan & Konchesky offloaded. Whilst (not-breaking the bank) signing Bryan Ruiz £8-12m, Sylvain Marveaux £1-2.5m and Taye Taiwo £2-4m i think we could mount a serious enough challange, for the big-guns to keep faith and stay with us. well untill some one with a little more nous came to take the reigns e.g. Andre Villas-Boas, Thomas Tuchel, Jurgen Klopp or Owen Coyle.

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31 Dec 2010 12:03:12
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Hodgson out and Rafa back on short term contract till end of the season, and then review the situation after that in terms of a potentially longer contract. No promises from NESV though.

Rafa will accept not having complete control over player ins and outs as he loves the club/ city and sees it as an opportunity to save his credibility as a manager (rescuing Liverpool from mid table mediocrity and a potential relegation battle) and importantly this time round the Yanks and Purslow are not a factor, and NESV will invest to build a winning team.

I admit I'm not a fan of looking back to go forward and Hiddink would be my pick of manager, but let's face it Roy has to go ASAP, and Rafa could step right back in and hit the ground running in terms of knowing the players (well most of), staff, fans, and club culture etc.

This may even have something to do with why Aguero was in Liverpool. If Torres credits Rafa with turning him into a world class striker then maybe Aguero might be keen on linking up with him at Anfield?

BigAussieRed

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31 Dec 2010 12:01:17
I think we should sack Roy today install Carrara but have the king Roy Evans and Phil Thomson as his boot room staff back to the good old days no foreigners get a bit of passion and the real liverpool way back .
Only to end of season if all gose well then keep em if not get a shortlist go for Gus or Jose if they won't come get a young fresh hungry manager with good experience what you think Ed about the Carra as caretaker with the legends {ed's note - I would be very happy to see Carra in charge with Roy Evans and Thommo helping him. Two Bootle boys running the club would make me very happy!}

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31 Dec 2010 11:58:58
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I would just like to wish everyone on this site a very happy transfer window.
EST.1892

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31 Dec 2010 11:57:09
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31 Dec 2010 08:45:44
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Hi guys heard from a very good source that the board have decided to back Hodgson till the end of the season unfortunately! This is from yesterday's meeting.
They are unwilling to sack him and pay compensation as they would rather that money to to sent on players which Hodgson will have no control over.
Senior players are not very happy with Hodgsons tactics or training methods and first to leave in January will be Maxi from what I've heard.
Don't expect any big names arriving until at least the summer as NESV will not invest until we have a new manager! (Boas is first choice)

The source I heard this from has no reason to lie

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NESV have to be the worst businessman on earth if they're backing him to the end of next season. Hodgson has taken their investment from within reaching distance of the Champions League to below midtable and three points off relegation. If we continue at this rate, we will clock up 46pts in total. So, essentially, Woy will have taken a decent investment a flushed it down the toilet.
Attendance will hit record lows and all the good players will want out.
Woy WILL be gone after the Man U game at the very latest. We have three games coming up.

Bolton H
Blackburn A
Man U A

I'm no pessimist, but under Woy we're never going to get 6pts out of Bolton and Blackburn. Then we have Man U in the FA Cup - be realistic, guys, we're never going to be them unless the quality players decide to give Woy the old two-finger salute and play free-flowing, attacking football. Otherwise, that cup game will be the final, and biggest, nail in Woy's coffin, if he makes it that far.
If we lose by an embarrassing scoreline to the Mancs (which is, sadly, quite possible), then Woy probably won't even live long enough to finally get his P45 from Mr Henry.

Jon

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31 Dec 2010 11:49:22
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Liverpool Rumours
Hi guys heard from a very good source that the board have decided to back Hodgson till the end of the season unfortunately! This is from yesterday's meeting.
They are unwilling to sack him and pay compensation as they would rather that money to to sent on players which Hodgson will have no control over.
Senior players are not very happy with Hodgsons tactics or training methods and first to leave in January will be Maxi from what I've heard.
Don't expect any big names arriving until at least the summer as NESV will not invest until we have a new manager! (Boas is first choice)

The source I heard this from has no reason to lie


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i just can't see the logic in sticking with him? everything about him is wrong. his press interviews, his tactics, his choice of players, the players don't agree with his tactics/ style of football etc. . .
if they stick with him, players will leave, we will finish bottom half (or relegated! ) and then won't be able to attract any decent players in the summer.

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31 Dec 2010 11:45:45
Sometimes when you do your best and you find your out of your depth , you have to come to the conclusion that you are not good enough. .sooo. mr hodgson. .please. come to some mutial agreement with the club and leave as soon as possible. .
agree or disagree redmen. . .

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31 Dec 2010 11:44:36
, if he wasn't English and from London and fulfilling their sexual fantasy of having an Englishman in charge of a big club he'd be getting slaughtered

what big club?? ? ?

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31 Dec 2010 11:42:30
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Ed i don't mind if this isn't posted but why does it say 'there was a problem with the request' every time i try click believable or unbelievable? and its not just from my computer as i have tried from several computers admittedly mac's not pc's. But cheers ed for the great site i check the site everyday, keep up the good work :) {ed's note - that is probably the answer, I don't use a mac so the programming has never been checked on one sorry. I will see if it can be fixed for you.}

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31 Dec 2010 11:40:38
Looking at Ashley Young' statistics over his career .

Watford - 112 games . . 22 goals . . 19 assists

Aston Villa - 165 games . . 32 goals . . 48 assists

qualifying an average of scoring or assisting 1 Premier League goal avery 2 games .

I think LFC would benefit from that , even if it is only for a couple of seasons , he has a sell on value and we need a player in the team with pace that offers something different than what we have .

Seems like John Barnes was the last winger LFC had performing in the midfield

there is no way ashley young will want to come to liverpool

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31 Dec 2010 11:37:47
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Is it not time to give someone like danny wilson a go surely he can't be as bad as the 2 that were there the other night.and as for the next manager why are people not looking for martin o neill.he is available straight and has to be better than woy

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31 Dec 2010 11:37:35
I don't want to see Liverpool players hoofing the ball long at Anfield ever again. It is not necessary with the players we have. Go now Hodgson !

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31 Dec 2010 11:35:10
31 Dec 2010 05:42:43
Roy Hodgson talks too much and tries to repackage everything to suit his agenda .

If he was any good at the job he would have the full support of everybody .
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Good post. On the subject of his comments concerning the lack of support he has received from the fans in Anfield, I remember in our first match at Anfield this season against Robotniki in the Europa league he received a very nice welcome, with the players looking to impress him (Joe Cole doing nice flicks and back heels etc.). But this nice welcome soon ended with Hodgson's eccentric behaviour on the touchline and in interviews making stupid ill advised comments. He is clearly out of his depth and he and Mike Kelly have lost the players with their Mike Bassett England Manager tactics and football ideology.
Roy Hodgson, Mike Kelly and Sammy Lee to be gone by Sunday.

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31 Dec 2010 11:21:47
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I think everyone should get off Hodgsons back, It is quite clear that the players are either not interested or simply not on form. If you were a proffesional player earning the thousands each week like all our players are, the managers tactics would simply go out of the window after 60 mins or so when 1 nil down to Wolves and you would play the way you play best. The team we had out there was near enough one of our strongest. I don't think Hodgson can be blamed for this, apart from poulson and Carlton Cole if the rumours are true I think everyone on here is happy with the potential targets being linked with our club and that they are right for us. These targets whether you believe it or not are Hodgsons targets. Therefore we must be happy with what he is trying to do.

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31 Dec 2010 11:19:45
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KALL 4 KING KENNY

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31 Dec 2010 11:19:23
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Kenny to get d job till end season if he does well he will get it full time

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31 Dec 2010 11:18:38
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Roy mis-interpretation. . . jesus this man gets worse. .

1 - your bloody english you have nothing to interpret
2 - we all heard your comments on the tv. . bold and clear. .there was no other way to interpret it.

get him out of our club please, he is worse than H&G

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31 Dec 2010 11:17:22
Maybe we should stand back and view the whole picture. back in the 80s we had a very god side, mainly british players, today we have a multi national side who have no passion apart from the capt marvel and carra. The players in todays team would never get into the teams of the past, this team was built by rafa, all the young talent were mainly foreign, and have not made the grade why is that? look where rush came from, one of many emlyn hughes is another. I think that roy is right in getting young british talent, its the future, it just can't come quick enough at the moment. shelvy is a talent its just the pressure of success and the fan pressure that will make sure that young talent like that will never be successfull at liverpool. This squad rotation buisness is a laugh, you only need 16 players, play week in week out, learn from each other, know what is expected, if you get injured then fight to get your place back. Can we really afford a big squad, rather a small squad with quality fringe young players who would die for the chance of getting 15mins on a cold midweek night.

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31 Dec 2010 11:14:35
I'm not a Liverpool supporter but do you think Hodgson has had a chance at Liverpool?

As an outsider he was left a team of utter tosh mixed with no money to spend he never had a chance.

As an aside there was a poll done on Talksport that got the result that Rafa would be liked back by 65% of voters

Pardoe

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31 Dec 2010 11:13:42
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NESV should learn what the boot room is and bring it back. To be made up of Carragher, Hansen, Molby, Dalglish, Keegan, Rush and Hyypia.

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31 Dec 2010 11:12:21
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I am completely sick of nonentities and personality pundits making incorrect and inane comments about Liverpool and supporting Hodgson in the same way they supported Allardyce last week. They don't understand Liverpool FC, the city or the community.
Hodgson has failed miserably at Liverpool. He has to go.

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31 Dec 2010 11:11:16
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"The Madness of King Roy IX"

Forgive me if I wander a tad this morning.
Been listening to talkSPORT and the debate about our manager.
I still can't work out if Mike Parry really is thick or plays the fool to boost his position and income at the station.
Mick Dennis with him this morning and I appreciate his sage comments about our fans: he was right to say that fans who think they are special 'special fans' are insulting the rest of the fans supporting rival clubs. It has always been true of the Geordie fans and we do not want to be seen in that light.
In fact, yesterday, one LFC fan said on radio during a phone-in that certain players were "not Liverpool type of players" and "didn't understand the Liverpool way."
As a supporter of 40 years plus - I say that is drivel.

The 'Liverpool way' is just winning football. We have played (and they have played like us) like Arsenal and Real Madrid, but so have Everton, Lille and Sparta Prague. It is a delusion to think we have a special way of playing - it is special when you win! 'Liverpool type of players'?
Don't understand that one either.
Players become Liverpool players when they sign for us. When Torres and Barnes were starting out as players, no-one said, "they are Liverpool type players!"
Stop this nonsense.
The way we play and the type of players we like are often dictated by the manager. If Mourinho or van Gaal joined us, our 'Liverpool type of player' would change. Especially so if we started winning more often.

This all stemmed from my listening to talkSPORT this morning. Just a few words if I may about this station.

Why do they believe that Ronnie Irani MUST dive in with the hellos whenever his co-presenter greets an interviewee? As far as my media training went, the person is waiting for one man to talk to, not his sidekick. Irani is dragging the station ratings down and yet the powers that be seem oblivious - or are they?

Finally, the callers this morning to talk to Parry were greeted with "hurry up, we have to move on quickly" before they even opened their mouths.
Is talkSPORT simply interested in quantity rather than the quality of the calls.
It disturbs the nervous caller and suggests that they have something or someone very special waiting so they have to clear others off the line!
Why do this?
Why can they not continue the debates without the interruptions (an Irani speciality by the way that breaks the flow and loses many a good point of discussion) and work on the topics rather than number of calls?

I don't believe talkSPORT is an anti-LFC station; I do believe they are interested more in controversy they start to generate income through phone calls rather than the core of the issues.

Steve Parker

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31 Dec 2010 11:10:47
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Win or draw saturday and woy stays till may. NESV have no real replacement available to come in. Duglish hasnt done well in management since leavin lfc and so is not really seen as a credible alternative.

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ok. so we want to win the pl yes? good. um, if i remember correctly king kenny won the premier league wiv f@king blackburn?! i think that that must be pretty good managing.

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31 Dec 2010 11:09:54
Arise Sir Martin Broughton. I know its for his services to business but I include saving English football's greatest club in that. Well done Sir!

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31 Dec 2010 11:08:12
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Message to Roy . . . Your apology means nothing. You were obviously told by the owners to backtrack and attempt to make amends. But if you're still around in a few weeks time, no doubt you will be moaning again about the current squad, or the new players, etc, etc. Anything to deflect criticism away from yourself. You're the reason we're in this mess. You brought all this on yourself and we, the fans, are just telling you how it is when we boo or chant for you to be replaced. The legendary fanbase and the famous atmosphere you were so quick to slate both have to be earned, not demanded on your whim. You're not welcome here anymore.

25_05_05

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31 Dec 2010 11:02:59
31 Dec 2010 01:20:48
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The guy that said Dalglish hasn't done anything since Liverpool. Well what has roy done since Fulham except make are team a laughing stock!


what did he woy do at fulham? mid table season on season, euro final. yeah right we got to semi and lost to the team that won it luck of the draw i think

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31 Dec 2010 10:47:41
Liverpool Rumours
I know this will not be popular but the team needs a total overhaul - Question is how much money will NESV
spend this transfer window. Lets face it we NEED a lot of positions filling, striker, attacking wingers, a quality left back, centre half and of course a manager who knows whats he's doing!

NESV won't spend more then £20 mill this january, therefore we need to sell Torres, it's obvious that he doesn't want to play and with both Chelsea and Man city in the market for a striker they would both pay TOP TOP money for him. £30 mil +, lets stop deluding ourselves start again and get some quality into the team

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31 Dec 2010 10:45:32
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If we are to get a new manager how about Holloway or Coyle?

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31 Dec 2010 10:42:10
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"31 Dec 2010 06:29:14
Give the job to Kevin Keegan for 6 months ."

. . . .and he'd leave after a fortnight.

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31 Dec 2010 10:41:34
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Not my usual style of entry but like others I just CAN NOT believe Woy is still got his arse warming the seat of shanks/ paisley/ fagan etc, and I've thought twice about posting this as I expect a shoeing from some but is nesv (or connected) read this. . well it speaks volumes so has to be said.

3+ years ago I took my pregnant missus (we expecting another as reg posters/ eds know) to anfield, it was her first time and baby was born a red (still got enbroided scarf with words 13 weeks 5 days first anfield visit * * * ). We had a blast, kop was singing and good football/ atmosphere. Now * * * is 3.5 years old and she's at an age where she's ready to go again + I want similar scarf for my next little 'un.

I usually go about 6 times a year through friends/ contacts season tickets, i'd like to go more but moneys an issue as it is for most, anyway. . I haven't been this last few months and had the chance of tickets for wolves. .I turned them down.

I didn't want to have my daughters first experience of anfield to be the crap that we are seeing and I had a strong suspicion that we would lose.

I just wonder if I felt like that, so strongly, how many other families are staying away.

Nesv, my family will always be reds but I can't justify £150 on a day out to watch a "manager" devoid of ideas, unable to play people in the right system/ position, no tactical awareness and a team who just don't want to play that passionless football.

Let's hope the axe falls soon, he may be a nice bloke but this is not the job for Woy

the all seeing aaaaiiii

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31 Dec 2010 10:40:41
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Lets get behind Woy until the end of the season!
If we are still not convinced then lets start asking for change.
Message to WOY _ " We need Width"! !

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31 Dec 2010 10:39:57
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Hey guys. . .
i am sure WE ALL know roy will not get sacked. .

NESV are new to football. .so roy hodgson is telling them each day. .time. .give it time. bla bla. and they just take his advice cos he has experience.

if i am wrong. . they would of sacked the guy by now!

we lost those games to blackpool and some other team. we all hated roy. .what happened NOTHING. .and then we won a few games. and he gets away with it. .

we lost to wolves. .NOTHING HAPPENS. . and i bet we beat bolton. . .and he gets away. .

spurs chelsea man city. are up in the top 4 and we are WASTING TIME by not making decisions. .so i think as a lfc supporter. .we have crap owners and management. .
why? because they don't act quick enough. .

chelsea did with scholari
newcastle saw themselves 3 points from bottom and made a decision. .WHY CANT WE. we have enough time to win so many games. .

face it. we are average now. and next season. simple

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31 Dec 2010 10:33:02
I was one of those who didn't like roy taking over at the start but decided to wait till january to make my assessment of how roy would do. . the game against wolves has summed it all up for me. .a shocking display of biblicle poportions. .all wolves had to do was push and press high up the pitch to stop us playing. .our response. lump it. get rid. .no encouragment from the manager to keep the ball on the deck. pass and move. .work the channels. try and get down the sides of wolves. not once in that game did we trouble them with cross into their box. .no life no passion no drive no skill or flare. nothing. roy hodgson got his team selection on the night all wrong. .meireles is NOT a wide player. .kujt is NOT a winger. and ngog is a championship level centre forward. .it frightens me to see some of the names in our sqaud. .were reaping what weve sown. tolerence of poor managers and poor players has taken us to the brink. .and this is not a knee jerk reaction. .i just hope and pray nesv have deep pockets(A lot of players in and out) and an unlimited ambition for our club. .
MY TEAM V WOLVES
REINA
JOHNSON SKRTEL WILSON AURELIO
MAXI GERRARD MEIRELES J.COLE
KUJT TORRES

(what you think ED). . {ed's note - Roy did get it all wrong, again. I am not so sure about the team you have chosen, especially if Roy was in charge of it.}

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31 Dec 2010 10:31:17
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Roy never had a go at the fans sky sports Loaded questions (as they always do ) and he answered them . and what he said was only the truth he was right our support is awful these days and I'm sick of Liverpool fans constant complaining these days if anybody says something about the club the truth hurts and until we except we are an average side and start all getting behind the team especially when they are losing we are going no where at lets get some atmosphere at Anfield because until ROy go's he is our manager

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31 Dec 2010 10:30:23
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Hear a stat that I wanted to share with you all.

Eight of the team that played against Wolves also played in the 4-0 Champions League victory of Real Madrid 20 (ish) months ago.

Manager or players?

The Booter

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31 Dec 2010 10:29:25
The sporting industry in the USA, is so different to that of europe and south America, football is in our blood, we talk more about football then our loved ones, you need a manager that understands the very princible of, what Liverpool means to its fan base, a manager that knows what the clubs history has meant to so many people, some no longer with us, your new owners have not grasped this yet, football at the level Liverpool should be at, is unforgiving, your new owner have got to show there intent, get ruthless, Hodgson will never be revered by the fans or players, so why keep him?the proof is this, if you where a youngster watching the wolves game, you would be more likelyto become a wolves fan then a liverpool fan, thats one new life long supporter gone, LIFELONG supporter, thats what football meens to us, your new owners must act now or pay the price in the future.Good luck.

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31 Dec 2010 10:29:01
Liverpool Rumours
The stats make grim reading for Liverpool FC manager Roy Hodgson, who last night tasted defeat for the ninth time in 29 games as Anfield boss - plunging the Reds to a 57-year low.
Wolves' win leaves Liverpool on just 22 points going into the New Year,  their lowest tally at this stage of the season since 1953/ 54 when Don Welsh's side was relegated.
Hodgson has still never beaten Wolves as a Premier League manager,  while last night's visitors - bottom of the league before kick-off - had not won at Anfield since 1984.
The Reds have already lost to two of the promoted clubs this term - Newcastle away, Blackpool at home - and now find themselves just three points off the relegation zone and five points from the foot of the table.
The Blackpool defeat in October put Liverpool into the bottom three and - in the first statistical nod to the 1953/ 54 season - meant the Reds had got off to their worst league start for 57 years.
And Kopites will remember Liverpool's Carling Cup clash against League Two outfit Northampton back in September for all the wrong reasons, with Hodgson's side crashing out on penalties in what many considered to be the most embarrassing home performance since Worcester City in 1959.
While last night's loss also came at Anfield, Hodgson's away record with Liverpool so far is perhaps more of a cause for concern.
The Reds have been beaten six times and have managed only one win on the road in the league this season, scoring just six goals.
Hodgson has never won more than five away games in charge of a Premier League team in a single season; Rafael Benitez won only five away games in 2009/ 10 and it was not deemed good enough to keep him at LFC.
Benitez won 13 away games with the Reds in the 2008/ 09 campaign - the same amount Hodgson has won in his Premier League managerial career to date.
Roy Hodgson's Premier League away record in full:
1997/ 98 at Blackburn Rovers - 5 away wins - finished 6th1998/ 99 at Blackburn Rovers - 0 away wins - sacked when 20th2007/ 08 at Fulham - 3 away wins - finished 17th2008/ 09 at Fulham - 3 away wins - finished 7th2009/ 10 at Fulham - 1 away win - finished 12th2010/ 11 at Liverpool - 1 away win so far - currently 12th were a joke f***off Roy

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31 Dec 2010 10:22:40
How can roy not accept responsibility for the gash line up the other day

reina

johnson skyrtle kiryakos koncheky

mirelles gerrard lucas kuyt

torres ngog

how is that team meant to play as an attacking unit hes such a d*** head,

line up should of been

Reina

kelley agger wilson aurellio

johnson lucas mirelles maxi

gerrard
torres

why can he not see this, and why does he insist on playing konk its obvious hes not good enough.

has he had some common sense and not let the entire go on loan or sold then the line up would be.

RH desimated the sqad he was given

reina

johnson agger wilson aurellio

maxi gerrard mirelles riera

aquaman
torres

roy out

jaydee 76

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31 Dec 2010 10:17:29
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Dont forget Martin Oneil is available

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31 Dec 2010 10:16:40
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Is 2 better than 3? Is breathing space better than panic sack & appoint? Is Rafa better than Roy? If nesv answer yes to all three questions then the solution to their & our problem may be a simple but slightly painful one but only short-term.

Why have 3 managers in 6 months, only to appoint a fourth in the summer. Better to have 2. I believe Rafa would respond to an sos from nesv if they came knocking. Why could that be plausible? I think nesv know who they want as manager but will only get him in the summer. It's obvious Roy has blown it. If nesv panic and appoint now, they'll appoint second best. If they call on Rafa they have a coach that knows the players & the setup. If they said to Rafa 'you're here to the end of season only as caretaker, even if you have a measure of success. You have no input on transfers, no influence on any department in the club you just coach'. That could work & he'd do better than Roy. He's given a basic salary with win bonuses, and NO politic-ing.

It kills to birds with one stone. Rafa is available & in town. They can get rid of Roy & there is no massive upheaval as players know Rafa' hethods. Rafa puts himself in the shop window & stabilizes results. He walks away in the summer & nesv appoint their first choice.

As I said 2 is better than 3, breathing space is better than panic sack & appoint & Rafa IS better than Roy, particularly in the short-term.

But who is it nesv want to appoint? I'll let you know what I think later.

The Big Easy

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31 Dec 2010 10:14:45
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Regarding Carragher as manager Editor, your quote that he has no experience. . . I really don't think that matters! . . How much experience did Pep Guardiola have? Or Owen Coyle, or even Frank Rijkaard? The guy is obsessed with football, and knows the world game inside out! He's actually a fan of attacking football. Also, when on about "experience", Roy has many years experience and is dreadful! . .As is Allardyce, Ron Atkinson, Dave Bassett! !. .I don't think experience is key to being a good manager at all! . .

Either way I just hope we get this appointment right! I'd personally be happy with Joachim Louew, or even the Kenny/ Carragher till the end of the season. {ed's note - I think you are missing the major differences, Pep took over at a Barca team which was the best in the world, very little for him to do. Carra would have to come in and rip the whole club apart and start from scratch. I would definitely want to at least talk it over with him, if it was me making the decision, at the very least I would want him involved as a coach.}

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31 Dec 2010 10:08:22
I see Woy has apologised to the fans for his comments after the Wolves game.
A bit late mate - the writings on the wall! He'll have to pull out a few miracles of biblical proportions to turn it round and he just isn't capable of doing so.
Bye bye Woy!
JFT96

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31 Dec 2010 10:04:58
When is john henry and tom werner back in the country, lets be realistic here , there is not going to be an sackings if they are in the states, as they will need to face the media here


the britvickid

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31 Dec 2010 10:03:39
Eduardo Macia (joint chief scout) has left Anfield by mutual consent , no bad thing .

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31 Dec 2010 09:56:09
Kenny's Team vs Bolton…………


. ……………. Reina

Johnson…Skrtel…Agger….Aurelio

…………. . . . Lucas

……… Gerrard. .…. Meireles

Babel. .……………………. Pacheco
……………. . Torres


Roy's Team vs Bolton

. ……………. . .Reina

Johnson. .Skrtel…. Soto….Agger

Meireles. Gerrard. Lucas. Aurelio

. .Torres…Kuyt

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31 Dec 2010 09:46:20
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31 Dec 2010 00:26:24
Win or draw saturday and woy stays till may. NESV have no real replacement available to come in. Duglish hasnt done well in management since leavin lfc and so is not really seen as a credible alternative.

Really? Won pl with Blackburn. I think that's pretty good.

That was 15 years asgo?! I agree that King Kenny isn't the right man to take us forward but as assistant to Carra to help him in to management may be a good call. It worked when Kenny took over and had Bob Paisley by his side (maybe Bob was more responsible for Kennys managerial success?) Carra is a couple of years younger than Kenny was when he took over but this could be his time to step up to the hotseat. (ed, do you know what level of coaching badges carra has?) {ed's note - off the top of my head I think it is the UEFA B license.}

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31 Dec 2010 09:45:20
I think we should offer ray wilkins a job. I don't care what he does but he's a quality bloke and clearly knows his football inside out. He's been a success everywhere and is a brilliant motivator and puts a lot of effort into making the players happy. Obviously i don't mean as manager, but assistant or head coach or something. Even if we have to pay him loads of money for a wierd job title i really think he would be a great benefit to the club.

Duckula

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31 Dec 2010 09:36:52
Get Rafa back NOW. What an opportunity. Hodgeson is the worst manager in the history of Liverpool according to the records. I'd put Rafa in on a 2 year contract and sack Sammy Lee.

Rafa Rafael, Rafa Rafael, Rafa Rafael, Rafel Benitez

Do It! !

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31 Dec 2010 09:28:08
ODE TO ROY !

May he who has had the fortune
To gain some true friends
And he who has won sweet FA
Join in our jubilation!

Yes, even if he calls but one soul
His own in all the world.
But he who has failed in this task
Must steal away alone and in tears.

Can you sense the Creator, John?
Seek him above the starry canopy.
Above the stars He must dwell.

Be embraced, Kopites!
This kiss for all the world!
Brothers!, above the starry canopy
A loving manager must dwell.

Joy, beautiful spark of the Kop!,
Sons and daughters of Shankly ,
Joy, beautiful spark of Gods!

For Hopefully Roy will be gone. .


TOBI WAN

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31 Dec 2010 09:24:26
I am really disappointed when I hear Roy saying that the players in the team are not his. When he became manager they instantly became his players. Is he not going to be happy until he's replaced every player then he can start managing properly. .no. another excuse.

These players finished 2nd 2 seasons ago.

And when Roy says the negativity isn't helping, all the fans are thinking. ."yep, your negative tactics haven't helped from the start!"

Roy's tactics have managed to isolate Torres and make him look average.

Playing players out of position-why? Before Gerrard came back, Roy was questioned by a reporter who said something along the lines of, "Miereles and Lucas look good together in midfield, surely you won't break that up when Gerrard returns?" Against wolves Miereles plays on the Right. What an arse!

In my opinion, with what he has at his disposal Roy should play:

Reina
Kelly Skrtel Agger Aurelio
Johnson Gerrard Miereles Babel
Jovanovich Torres

Emphasis on attack. So scared to lose he'll never win!
What a terrible year of football the worst ever (even worse than Souness of that I have no doubt).

I think Roy should take a long hard look at himself rather than laying blame on players and fans. .or is he too arrogant to realise his own shortfalls.

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31 Dec 2010 09:24:13
{Editor's Note: Word is Paul Furlong as player/ manager.}

are you being serious ED?
the kettering player/ manager?

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31 Dec 2010 09:21:49
Liverpool Rumours
Should LFC simply sign these players :

Elia , Marveaux , Honda and Young

and just let them try to run riot in the final third - playing of Fernando Torres , with gerrard holding the midfield in front of a flat back four ?

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31 Dec 2010 09:21:17
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31 Dec 2010 02:57:59
I think Cara should be Appointed as the next manager let's face it his best days are over on the pitch. Then let camoli take care of the transfers. Maybe get someone with a bit more Experience as his number 2 like Phil Thompson. What do u think?

{Editor's Note: Not a chance, hopefully.}

Editor - why do you say that so strongly? is it Carra personally or just his lack of experience?

{Editor's Note: No experience; sentiment is no reason to chose a manager.}

* * ED. . sorry have to disagree to some extent as Dalglish did a decent job as player/ manager

The original poster had a fair point and I actually think Carra can't do any worse than Roy is doing. . Id give him a shot, with some of the old guard around him such as Phil Thompson/ Kenny/ Rush. . it may just reinstall the boot room mentality

Sven

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31 Dec 2010 09:18:18
Morning ed! He hasn't been sacked yet but wow! I'm loving the headlines today " hodgson faces sack "" owners unhappy " fantastic! It's only a matter of time I hope. Roy gone a few new players in jan! Much happier btw Elia- fantastic.

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31 Dec 2010 09:16:44
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I don't care who we sign marveaux, gervinho, hoorau, honda, as long as they play with pride and do better than that joke konchesky

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31 Dec 2010 09:16:30
I think NESV should be looking no further than Owen Coyle. I honestly believe this man has the potential to be the next Shanks. He has passion in bucket loads, he has the complete backing of his players, he has a winning mentality, he wants the game played the right way and he has an eye for a good player.
Look at what he did with Burnley and now Bolton?
He's a young Scot too - all similarities to the great Shanks.
I think they should go after him at any cost - NOW!
Ed - what do you think mate? {ed's note - he would be one of the first people I spoke to.}

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31 Dec 2010 09:05:16
Congratulations to Martin Broughton on his Knighthood.

Lee73

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31 Dec 2010 09:02:42
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Well hears wishing everyone a very happy new year.hoping for so much more an a lot lot better from are lfc in 2011.anyway ed why do u think are owners have not got shot of little gaffa then mate, they should do it now an give are new gaffa the hole jan window to sort whot he can, i can't see are fans now ever getting behind roy cos once this bad blood starts u can't ever turn it around.there are gaffas out there it needs to be done now not later, we are 2 close to the bottom of the table to just leave it as is.a new gaffa new players an a fresh start could be the kick start we need.ed we do need a clear out of some players that are just not cutting it time to move on right now. fresh faces in old faces out we are so in need of a new stile of play, out an out wingers would be a very good place to start that on its own makes things happan in the box your take please ed. . . WALKING ON WITH HOPE, YNWA, NESV SOS, UP THE POOL, RED TILL DEAD, JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE {ed's note - they haven't found the replacement they want or more likely he is not going to be available to take over until the summer.}

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31 Dec 2010 09:00:07
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Its ok folks things are ticking nicely into place
1- JWH stated that a place needs to be found in the club for kk
2. Comolli bought in to help with transfers and player recruitment.
3. kk to become manager but in a more coaching role with an input into player recruitment.
4. Or Reikard (spelling) was seen in liverpool and maybe on his way to us, or everton, or tranmere or prescot cables or just shopping or not there in the first place. But if he does come he will bring villa, inniesta et al from barca
5. Rafa to come back and march us straight up the table, win the fa cup knocking united out of the cup 6 0
6. Bolton to beat us on saturday 3 0 owen coyle to become manager.
7. Martin oneil to become manager bringing ashley young with him. Plans for a new stadium with a roof on are then scrapped as the height of the roof would not be high enough to accommodate our new tactics.
8. Any number of foreign experienced or up and coming managers to come in and take three yrs to turn us around

or

RH to stay to end of season we finish 16th and roy delighted with progress, half squad leave in disgust, new stadium scrapped and our big signing of the summer is huth and c cole

or

we have all cried out for liverpool to do things the old and proper way ie behind closed doors. We have new owners and we have to trust them. They are not going to invest in a club and watch it demise without trying to change things. I think rh will either go now or definatelymore likely in the summer either way i think he will have minimal imput into jan signings. todays pre match interview will see him trying to undo what was said post match midweek. Be assured things will change one way or another but i believe will be done in a professional manner but if your waiting for rh to walk i think we'll be waiting a long time

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31 Dec 2010 08:51:00
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If Woy only has tomorrows game to save his job, i will certainly be cheering on Bolton for a win!
If that's the only way he will go, then so be it! The season is f***ed anyway so another loss won't matter. Woy out and Kenny / AN Other can have 6 months to get things sorted and hope for a better season next year.

elnino9

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31 Dec 2010 08:37:47
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Editor - why do you say that so strongly? is it Carra personally or just his lack of experience?

{Editor's Note: No experience; sentiment is no reason to chose a manager.}


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i posted mths ago for carra to be manager and got slated!

and ED you say no experience? king kenny had none when he took over and he did very well! ok he had a very good team but he could be carra num 2 in my opinion and help out

Ps all the best to the new year may this site continue and all the best to our beloved redmen my this year be much better than the last .

shaun mason {ed's note - Dalglish had Paisley to help him out, who would Carra have?}

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31 Dec 2010 08:21:31
Don't be surprised if we suffer yet another defeat. And if we do lose surely there is no other alternative but to sack Roy Hodgson. Do you not think that another home defeat will all but seal Hodgson's fate ed?

{Editor's Note: Maybe, maybe not.}

=====

PMSL at your response Ed. . how are the splinters?

Frenchy. {ed's note - don't! He keeps asking if I will pull them out for him *shudders*}

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31 Dec 2010 08:14:53
Liverpool Rumours
RH is a bad and terrible coach, no doubt about it. But do we really want him sacked now at this critical point of the season with games every 3rd day. I completely understand he needs to be sacked, but lets face it he knows the team for over half an year now and has molded the team 20% to play like he wants to play. Any new manager will come and try change that which could affect our 4th place (could be 7th place) chances, FA cup (our 1 of the 2 hopes of silverware this season). I think we should not sack Roy until the 15th January atleast. Yeah, he has to go, no doubt about that but now in the next 2 weeks.
Look at Chelski, Ray Wilkins gets the sack, and no win for 6 games I think (though I think it was the performance by Liverpool at Anfield which had them shaken). Come on we have not backed RH like we did Rafa, give him the support for his last 2 weeks, maybe we see something better. I know we all want him sacked but where is the Kop backing for him?? The team needs that. In the past 1 could hear the Kop singing Torres song on TV not we only hear the jeers for the manager and all. Come on guys, pick up the support.
Whatever, his managerial skills, RH is an honest man and simply was vocal about how he felt with the fans. How many times have we laid out Kenny's name as manager this season? What does that do too a manager, any idea?? Come on lets back our team once again. RH is a goner, we all know that but with lack of support for the team Torres and Reina could be goners too.

To the ed - - - come on back up the team please and don't harangue them for a poor performance everytime. {ed's note - harangue them? They earn more a week than I do a year and they can't even be bothered to try. Sorry but if anyone does harangue them, then it is all their own fault.}

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31 Dec 2010 07:50:53
I was thinking yesterday , perhaps we need to go for a Dutch coach and wondered wether Louis Van Gaal would be a good choice , well , Jan Molby thinks Louis Van Gaal would 'walk to Anfield' if offered the job .

I have to think now that Louis Van Gaal might just be the best option .

1977

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31 Dec 2010 07:49:49
Liverpool Rumours
What we should do at next home game is tell the board roy goes or we go and all walk out at half time. just to show them we are not putting up with this crap any more to long as this gone on now.we are the best fans in land and we want and deserve better.

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31 Dec 2010 07:40:59
After being nuetral to Roy Hodgson' appointment , then turning against him as the season started to slip away , only to change my mind 'on principle' and deciding to back him at the time - such is the importance of an LFC manager .

I have to now say , without a shadow of a doubt that Roy Hodgson has no chance of satisfying 'The Kop' - and has to go immediately .

Anything Roy Hodgson might achieve during his time this season any other manager in the game could accomplish with LFC in 2011 .

1977

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31 Dec 2010 07:32:32
Roy Hodgson once said of his time at Blackburn Rovers that he refused to resign as manager , thinking he could change the tide of results , yet he was sacked , and in hindsight he admits his resignation should have been offered before Jack Walker forced him to leave .

Now he must see he is in the same situation at LFC and on his departure will satisfy the supporters .

1977

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31 Dec 2010 07:19:46
Liverpool Rumours
Give owen coyle a shot, young and enthusiastic. with guidance from the king.

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31 Dec 2010 07:03:53
Looking at Ashley Young' statistics over his career .

Watford - 112 games . . 22 goals . . 19 assists

Aston Villa - 165 games . . 32 goals . . 48 assists

qualifying an average of scoring or assisting 1 Premier League goal avery 2 games .

I think LFC would benefit from that , even if it is only for a couple of seasons , he has a sell on value and we need a player in the team with pace that offers something different than what we have .

Seems like John Barnes was the last winger LFC had performing in the midfield .

1977

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31 Dec 2010 07:02:09
Liverpool Rumours
I think once a manager says he has the ful support of the players his days are number, i hope daglish takesw over and football hasnt changed that much lets face it its a pass and move game with pace and that's what liverpool teams always did.
another manager i think would do well is owen colye what do you think ed?
king henry {ed's note - I think Coyle would do a great job.}

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31 Dec 2010 06:15:56
Does anyone like martin Jol?

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I was tempted to agree with the above post immediately until I remembered Martin Jol and Damien Comolli had a troubled working relationship , that said , I think a coach of that calibre should be given a go to prove himself whilst season 2010/ 2011 still has something to play for .

Should a better long term managerial target become available then the board would have to make a decision .

Honestly , I would welcome Chris Hughton as a temporary gaffer until a permanent manager was installed .

It is clear Roy Hodgson cannot do the job , therefore he should not be at Anfield now .

1977

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31 Dec 2010 05:42:43
Roy Hodgson talks too much and tries to repackage everything to suit his agenda .

If he was any good at the job he would have the full support of everybody .

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31 Dec 2010 05:37:06
Does anyone like martin Jol?

I think his wife still does but I don't know for sure

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31 Dec 2010 05:31:20
Liverpool Rumours
Source Bleacher report. Take that for what its worth but they are reporting that JWH doesn't want Roy to control transfer kitty if he may be gone soon.Frank Rijkaard is fav with William Hill cutting his odd to 8/ 15. Here comes 4-3-3, barca style. We need speed as this to me is a glaring problem with our team. Even Torres looks to not be as sharp or quick as he used to be. Maybe some new practice tacticts and some new wide players will breath a breath of fresh air into the squad. Rather cut our losses now rather than later. YNWA

Paul

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31 Dec 2010 04:18:45
Liverpool Rumours
I hope WOY goes, It's funny how the media is not going after his head like they did with RAFA they just blaming the players. ED do you think if Woy goes and if we don't get anyone full time we should go for King Kenny and Tommo "Phil Thompson as caretakers?

{Editor's Note: Word is Paul Furlong as player/manager.}

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31 Dec 2010 03:49:14
Liverpool Rumours
31 Dec 2010 00:26:24
Win or draw saturday and woy stays till may. NESV have no real replacement available to come in. Duglish hasnt done well in management since leavin lfc and so is not really seen as a credible alternative.

Really? Won pl with Blackburn. I think that's pretty good.

one of only 5 managers to win premier league.
that will do me mate, and who's Duglish?

Eric The Real Red
YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 03:16:11
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Ed, I have a few sources (albeit not high up in the club like you may have) who all seem to be backing up the general consensus. . That roy has the bolton game to save his job. . Surely such a decision would not be based on just one game. Even if we 'scrape' a win (at home to a team we should really be beating. .like the rest of the teams we have surrendered to this season) that can not justify Roy keeping his Job. . Is he really going to be kept on until summer as long as we do not lose to Bolton?

Steve1989

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31 Dec 2010 03:08:10
Just seen Jamie Redknapp's "report" on Liverpool so far this season, and surprise surprise, he's defending his little Cockney friend Hodgson. Boo hoo poor Hodgson just needs to get his own players in it isn't his team he's a top manager boo hoo. What - his own players? Like Carlton Cole, Shaun Wright-Phillips? Perhaps another Paul Konchesky or Christian Poulsen? Of course Redknapp, these are the type of signings who will take us to the next level aren't they.

Spurs Sports need to get a h* * ng grip. Shocking people to say the least. Have they been looking at his defensive tactics all season? Players out of position? Of course, if he wasn't English and from London and fulfilling their sexual fantasy of having an Englishman in charge of a big club he'd be getting slaughtered.

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31 Dec 2010 03:03:25
Kenny Dalglish has *not* forgotten what it takes to manage LIVERPOOL. That sort of thing is in the blood. You don't lose your eye for a player with age.

After reading his autobiography recently it was clear that he has offered his services to Liverpool 2 or 3 times since he first left and shamefully he was ignored.

For me the time is *now* with Carra as number 2. And don't give me that "tarnish his reputation" b* * * t, the man could date my mum and boot me dad out the house and I would still worship the ground he walks on.

The anticipation is getting to me, I can't wait till the end of the season for Hodgson to go :o(

Help me Obi Wan Kanobe, you are my only hope.

Matt S - YNWA

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31 Dec 2010 02:57:50
I really wish gervinoh to come

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31 Dec 2010 02:54:17
Liverpool Rumours
Best splution for roy to leave=loose the 2 next matche, y can't d see roy, is not good enough, playing player out of their position.NEVS pls do something b4 d 2nd of january.AND i'm 100% sure even if good playas com to d club wit roy we r not goin to go far, i can assure u guyz dat.

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31 Dec 2010 02:35:57
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I think Cara should be Appointed as the next manager let's face it his best days are over on the pitch. Then let camoli take care of the transfers. Maybe get someone with a bit more Experience as his number 2 like Phil Thompson. What do u think?

{Editor's Note: Not a chance, hopefully.}

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31 Dec 2010 02:10:14
"31 Dec 2010 01:52:44
Does anyone like martin Jol?"

It's unlikely he'd choose to work with Comolli given his role in ousting him at Spurs.

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31 Dec 2010 02:02:44
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31 Dec 2010 01:45:43
The guy that said Dalglish hasn't done anything since Liverpool. Well what has roy done since Fulham except make are team a laughing stock!

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In fairness roy has only had six months while he left fulham and kenny has had a good near 20 years :L

u don't lose it im very sure kenny knows how to manage a team still, , hes always remained involved in football and now liverpool for last 2 years, , he knows whats what in todays football he knows how tactics need to be, and he knows good players when he sees them, , he was an attacking player he knows how important it is to attack teams and knows what attackers need also, , i think hed do better than ppl give him credit for, , bring back the king, , also his legendary status will give him respect from the players and im sure he can otivate the players too! !

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31 Dec 2010 02:00:00
31 Dec 2010 01:52:44
Does anyone like martin Jol?
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Not Comolli anyway!

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31 Dec 2010 01:59:26
Rafa would sort this team out in three swift moves:
1. Go back to attacking 4-5-1.
2. Bring back Aquilani. .who should never have been allowed go unless it was for personal reasons.
3. Sign Mata using his good relations with Valencia.

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{Editor's Note: Aquilani went because he did not want to play for the club. He has made it clear on a number of occasions that he does not wish to return. It is likely that the buy-out attached to the loan deal will be invoked.}

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31 Dec 2010 01:58:59
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed's, not a rumour just a thought, when Roy does eventually go, what about this. . As a short term fix what about the King Kenny and John Aldridge as his assistant. . Both of these men love Liverpool football club and have great management experience. I know everyone is saying Kenny has been out of the game too long but that is not totally true. . He has been involved with the club for years and watches every game. . He is a total professional. . What do you think?? Thanks.

{Editor's Note: Not a solution. They are part of the history and not the future of the club.}

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31 Dec 2010 01:56:40
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I bet roy is just hick's and gillet's last attempt to have us over and they are laughing their heads off that he is still our coach, he was probably only put in as a practical joke cause they knew they were losing the club.

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31 Dec 2010 01:55:56
To the guy who posted:
3 players I do not want to hear mentioned in the same breath as Liverpool: Elia, Taiwo and Gervinho. 3 absolute piles of sh*ep that WILL NOT improve us in any capacity

The 3 players above offer a better service than kuyt konchesky and ngog. Fact

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31 Dec 2010 01:55:21
Liverpool Rumours
Young goin to pool cole goin villa bring in big sam

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31 Dec 2010 01:52:44
Does anyone like martin Jol?

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31 Dec 2010 01:49:10
Can anyone who was at Anfield for the Wolves match tell me if YNWA was sung at the end? I've watched the match twice on TV and I didn't hear it.

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Why the h#&k would they? :L

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31 Dec 2010 01:48:46
I think it's an absolute disgrace that players could actually under perform on purpose while representing LFC. I don't want to believe it but i think it may be true. .SACK THEM ALL STARTING WITH ROY. .

{Editor's Note: The players are never going to do that. The consequences of deliberately throwing a game could potentially be staggering for both the players and the club.}

I don't mean deliberatley throwing a game just spitting there dummies out cos they don't like the tactics or position there asked to play. .There definatley not giving there all. .Against wolves there should have been such a gulf in talent that would be enough to see us to victory alone. instead we looked like a bunch of overpaid, moody, individuals who didn't know how to fight.

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31 Dec 2010 01:47:59
31 Dec 2010 01:32:27
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Kenny is the academy ambassador
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Well that clears that up :/

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31 Dec 2010 01:47:04
Liverpool Rumours
I never wanted Rafa to go. But if the players wanted him to go then that is another story. But, will we ever see a midfield trio gel in the nest few years like Gerrard, Mascherano & Alonso did. We came second, lost Alonso and then Rafa blew all the money on an injured Aquilani (who did eventually turn out to be quite good). If he had got that player spot on then I think he still would be here today.

It would be a bold, bold move to bring him back. .but I do think he'd attract some more good Spanish based players, like Mata and Canales. Pacheco would certainly be on that pitch most weeks too!

I think he should be brought back to finish the job he started, and nearly achieved, until the situation with Hicks & Gillett got too much to manage anymore.

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31 Dec 2010 01:45:43
The guy that said Dalglish hasn't done anything since Liverpool. Well what has roy done since Fulham except make are team a laughing stock!

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In fairness roy has only had six months while he left fulham and kenny has had a good near 20 years :L

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31 Dec 2010 01:39:07
I think it's an absolute disgrace that players could actually under perform on purpose while representing LFC. I don't want to believe it but i think it may be true. .SACK THEM ALL STARTING WITH ROY. .

{Editor's Note: The players are never going to do that. The consequences of deliberately throwing a game could potentially be staggering for both the players and the club.}

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31 Dec 2010 01:33:00
Liverpool Rumours
Didier deschamps just said in frech newspaper he doesn't want to manage a mid to lower of the table team like liverpool he wants to aim higher.

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31 Dec 2010 01:32:37
Liverpool Rumours
Well, I have to say that i thought hodgson might av come in and done a decent job enough as he has a fairly decent track record in fairness but lets face it, the team are absolute muck at the minute, playing with no shape, direction and an obvious lack of belief, hence, i do 100% think its time for him to go now, more or less blaming the fans for not getting behind the team and the players themselves for underperforming but come on in fairness, surely a lot of the blame rests with him as he supposed to be the man to try spark their motivation, direction, ambition and so on, but the question is, who do you replace him with? i personally think that a dutch manager would be good for the club, i.e Rijkgaard(spelling), Hiddink, Koeman or else i think Klinsman or Bruce Arena! anyone else any thoughts?

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31 Dec 2010 01:32:27
Liverpool Rumours
Kenny is the academy ambassador

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31 Dec 2010 01:29:02
I can honestly see Bolton come to Anfield on Saturday and beat us. Teams will know exactly how to play against us and keeping players like Torres quiet and ineffective isn't all too difficult these days.

Bolton will undoubtidly have a go at us on Saturday. We don't press the opposition any more we just drop off and let them go at us and gain confidence and it has worked this season, most notably against Blackpool at Anfield and Newcaslte at St.James's. Bolton will do exactly the same and our shakey defence will have trouble dealing with the likes of Elmander and Davies.

Don't be surprised if we suffer yet another defeat. And if we do lose surely there is no other alternative but to sack Roy Hodgson. Do you not think that another home defeat will all but seal Hodgson's fate ed?

{Editor's Note: Maybe, maybe not.}

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31 Dec 2010 01:26:04
31 Dec 2010 01:05:25
Just got back from Liverpool (i live on the other side of the water) and i swear that i have just seen frank rijkaard on the phone outside the Crowne Plaza hotel on the phone i just rushed back throw the tunnel and jumped on the laptop does anyone no why he is in Liverpool?? ?

ed's macca this can only be a good sign right he ticks all the box's that NESV wanted
common this has to be good news

ramy the red

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31 Dec 2010 01:20:48
Liverpool Rumours
The guy that said Dalglish hasn't done anything since Liverpool. Well what has roy done since Fulham except make are team a laughing stock!

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31 Dec 2010 01:20:08
Liverpool Rumours
Ed i really feel for first time in a while, certainly longer than ive been alive anyway, that lfc is now in real trouble. The players arent playing, we're going through new coaches season after season. We NEED a good 2011 to kickstart things and make liverpool great again. Start by sacking the woy and his coaching staff and bring in new staff worthy of winning trophies. If benitez can do it, anyone can. . . Except roy though.

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31 Dec 2010 01:12:11
Liverpool Rumours
What is the point seeing how the next game turns out because if players know they only have to under perform one more game and his gone they will. Once you've lost the dressing room you've lost it.

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31 Dec 2010 01:09:20
31 Dec 2010 00:26:24
Win or draw saturday and woy stays till may. NESV have no real replacement available to come in. Duglish hasnt done well in management since leavin lfc and so is not really seen as a credible alternative.
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Urrmmmm yeah, , he only won the league with blackburn. .
Harry5:)

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31 Dec 2010 01:06:48
Ed are you like superman and stay up all nighy writing notes about c@rppy rumours. Or are you human like the rest of us? Btw what do you think of alex ferguson as new manager? The sun said he was the leading candidate as the owners promised him a life supply of chewing gum :S

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31 Dec 2010 01:05:25
Just got back from Liverpool (i live on the other side of the water) and i swear that i have just seen frank rijkaard on the phone outside the Crowne Plaza hotel on the phone i just rushed back throw the tunnel and jumped on the laptop does anyone no why he is in Liverpool? ? ?

ed's macca this can only be a good sign right he ticks all the box's that NESV wanted
common this has to be good news

ramy the red

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31 Dec 2010 01:04:01
Liverpool Rumours
Can anyone who was at Anfield for the Wolves match tell me if YNWA was sung at the end? I've watched the match twice on TV and I didn't hear it.

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31 Dec 2010 00:54:45
Liverpool Rumours
I can't Believe that Roy has not walked away after last nights showing and aftermatch comment's.
I never thought he should have been appointed in the first place. I believed then and the same now that Kenny should be given the job as caretaker, until the new owners have found the man they want. Instead we will have to sack Roy costs god knows how much.

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31 Dec 2010 00:54:18
Liverpool Rumours
Arl donald trump head getting f***ed off next week -coyle next liverpool manager young, driven, good with the players and most importantly plays good football

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31 Dec 2010 00:53:08
We all think this, but lets take action against Hodgson now. The performance against Wolved added to an embarassing defeat is just totally unacceptable. (As has been said before).

We've seen this all season but Wolves was just the peak of our misery.

I really don't want this to drag on any longer. If we win against Bolton on Saturday rest assure that it will probably buy Hodgson a few more weeks. Then we'll go away from home to Blackburn and given our poor away form we'll get beat and it'll be the same old story "if results like this continue he'll be gone" then we'll get a good result at home and it will drag on and on going around in circles. - that is a scenario I really want to avoid to be totally honest.

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31 Dec 2010 00:41:35
3 players I do not want to hear mentioned in the same breath as Liverpool: Elia, Taiwo and Gervinho. 3 absolute piles of sh*te that WILL NOT improve us in any capacity.

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31 Dec 2010 00:41:31
1st of all, keep the faith with NESV and John Henry. The reason that rumours and sources in anfield have dried up along with false promises is that these guys are no fools. They are serious guys who know what is going on. I do believe they hoped to stick with Hodgson til the summer, qualify ideally for Europe and then make their move for a new manager and for quality players while announcing their plans for a new stadium/ expansion of Anfield.

This is now changing as Hodgson goes into meltdown. Lets talk about Kenny or Owen Coyle. Or even Houghton as a caretaker til the Summer and then he's a part of the management team under the new manager.

I posted before that if Kenny wants it, it should be his. . . no questions. . .F* k it, it's like picking a darts team and Phil Taylor (even if he hadn't played for years) saying OK, I'll play for ye. . .who exactly is better. I want to hear a Liverpool manager demand the best from his players. A liverpool manager not even to be asked how he gets on with old whiskey nose (cos all the reporters know he hates him). A Liverpool manger being the most important person at the club with any player happy to be playing for him, not tweeting about how unhappy he is.

If Kenny doesn't want it, it has to be Coyle. A Scottish/ Irish man who has played his football in Scotland and England and graduated to mangement in the same countries showing his worth with a great brand of football. Creating more chances than Chelsea in the last game and would have won it with better finishers a manager with a solid belief in what he is doing and how. . does this sound familiar?

Fitzy

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31 Dec 2010 00:39:34
Liverpool Rumours
As i said before coyle everyday of the week for me !dalglish is the heart choice but we have to get the next manager so so right long term! !

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31 Dec 2010 00:32:05
RE:Dami Commolli > sports Director

John Henry would be a idiot to buy a football club and not have a Ace up his Shelve.

Damien Comolli is best thing to happen to liverpool in a long time. Long gone are years of wasting transfer fees


1> having friend in high places is only a good thing.


Arsenal> Comolli was a scout who found a some talent at arsenal. He did that and he took the credit for it on his CV. Like anyone applying for job, they state on CV what they have done in the past. Wenger is the manager and Arsenal have chief scout, but Comolli just stated the work he had done at arsenal. Cant blame him for that.

Mourinho was an interpreter to bobby robson at barcelona, but everyone knew he had a talent. And Wenger doesn't blame him for that, he just states that he built arsenal not comolli.

Tottenham> When comolli was at tottenham, the club had a very strong squad that should of been gunning for a top 4 spot. But they didn't gel and ended up on the bottom of the league. But the squad had everything it needed to challenge

"Comolli was sacked by Tottenham in October 2008, together with the coach Juande Ramos, "

Harry Redknapp is a croupt little manager that likes to take bungs having someone to answer to would really stop harry from filling up his off shore bank account. Crouch deal, most of his deals involve brown envelops

Harry got a very good squad and turned them around went on a straight winning run without any signings when he took over.

"Comolli was criticised by the Spurs chairman Daniel Levy for overseeing the sales of Berbatov and another striker, Robbie Keane, "

I remember that D-Comolli managed to rape both manchester utd and liverpool over the price for both of these players. Man u paid too much and liverpool paid over the odd for Kean. As a chairman, i would be laughin all the way to the bank.

"failing to replace them adequately, leaving the squad unbalanced.

Defoe in (he left for portsmouth, came back with harry
Kean in (Got him back at Xmas from liverpool
Peter Crouch in (from portsmouth
Bent out, (I remember he was tottehams leading striker that year
Pavlyuchenko stays

I really didn't see harry finding some amazing new young striking talent.

I give Harry full credit for adding a resilience which wasn't there before,

Younes Kaboul (from portsmouth
Peter Crouch (from portsmouth
Jermain Defoe (from portsmouth
Robbie Kean (from liverpool
Vedran Corluka (from man city
Wilson Palacios (from newcastle
Sebastien Bassong (from newcastle
Rafael Van der Vaart
William Gallas (arsenal

If you look at it, Tottenham got their players back from Portsmouth + Liverpool. And got Newcastle players when Newcastle went down.

These are not amazing new players that where discovered by harry.

Also Totteham have a good youth setup just like arsenal. This is something liverpool really want to copy at anfield.

NESV would not of bought liverpool without having a management structure in place that would develop the brand and profits, but also half the risk in transfer market. sporting directors half the risk in transfer market.

You turn up at the chairman's door with list of players for 100 millions. The board needs a scientific way to look at the risk of these players


managers manage, They are not all great transfer market people. Most of the time, agents decide what kind of players the club gets. transfer market is left to professionals.

Football clubs need a good scouting program to know what the going rates for types of players should be.

You don't want a person like Roy Hodgson in charge of transfer kitty. He is bad with money. Doesn't have the contacts in market, can't really manage a team that well and will be gone soon.

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31 Dec 2010 00:30:06
Liverpool Rumours
Ed how many Ed's are there (including sharkey) we need a name for each of you. I suggest Ed, Edd and Eddie. I never know which one is Editing {ed's note - we all use slightly different versions of editor's note, it is possible to tell us apart. There are 3 of us, well 4 if you count Sharkey, mostly, though 2 others are just too busy at the moment and there are a number of others who occasionally do some editing as well.}

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31 Dec 2010 00:28:38
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To all fns who want Roy Hodgson to leave, we can't stop in our relentless attempts to tell John Henry and NESV. If we don't continue, they will feel that it is just a spur of the moment reaction, as we were feeling angry!

E-mail NESV about your anger at Hodgson being manger and help preventour club from massively deterioating!

info@nesv.com

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31 Dec 2010 00:10:52
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Sorry Ed I meant who would you go for Manager wise top 3 candidates. Do you think we need someone with a bit of passion especially speaking wise as Hodgeson, Benitez and Houllier lacked a bit in that department?

Spriggo {ed's note - I would go for someone the players want to play for, Boas, Laudrup, Coyle, O'Driscoll, Di Matteo, all of those are spoken highly of by the players. You never hear their ex-players mentioning how boring the training was. I just want someone who understands the club's history and knows how big a club it is and will look to work with the club, adapting his methods to fit. Our 3 previous managers have failed in that department, miserably in Hodgson's case. My personal preference is O'Driscoll, but Boas and Laudrup are people I would want to speak to if I was holding interviews for the post.}

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31 Dec 2010 00:00:20
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{ed's note - I think there are many reasons he would stay, but the way the team are playing right now and the training they undergo is not making anyone happy. He doesn't like the way he gets kicked from pillar to post for nothing, game after game, because refs won't give a foul when he is being pulled, pushed and kicked from behind. He is also fed up that every challenge he makes is pulled up and given as a foul against. A good manager would use the injustices to fire him up and get him playing better, Roy, on the other hand, isn't doing that at all.}
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What reasons do you think would make him stay?

Obviously he loves the club, but I would say there are more reasons for him to leave than stay. But we have our opinions at the end of the day. Regardless of that, we all want to see him stay and have a good team around him. {ed's note - a new manager coming in with fresh ideas allowing him to enjoy his football. He loves Liverpool, the club and the place, it is just the football he is unhappy with right now.}

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30 Dec 2010 23:58:22
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Realistically could we achieve this squad for the rest of the season?

- - - - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - -
Johnson- Carragher- Skrtel- Agger
- -Meireles- Gerrard- Marveaux- -
Suarez/ Aguero- Torres- Honda

Surely we would be getting goals every week with these signings and line-up?

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30 Dec 2010 23:57:25
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Cheers ed

only got the stats comment now. ya i agree with you about O Driscoill and the O Neill points. how you feel bout owen coyle or even chris hughton. i no both not high profile names both did very well with teams in bad states before they took over and watching them on sidelines look to have a bond with the players motivate them. {ed's note - both play good football and both are managers the players want to play for. I would not be too disappointed if either were chosen.}

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30 Dec 2010 23:56:16
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Good day Ed. How's things? Just wondering who you would put as the 3 front runners now for the LFC job should it become available?

Spriggo {ed's note - do you mean who would I choose or who is the most likely? Only I would have Laudrup amongst my 3 I would choose but he has only just taken over at Mallorca and is not going to come now.}

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30 Dec 2010 23:55:23
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Here's something to think about, apparently Sylvain Marveuax is tearing up the French league and whatever, but, ask yourselves and answer honestly, wouldn't the likes of Babel do that, cmon there is so much dross there.

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30 Dec 2010 23:52:14
All this talk about windows reminds me of my mate's favourite line -

'Pick a window Roy: you're leaving. .'

Newtydreads

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