Liverpool Banter Archive August 31 2017

 

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31 Aug 2017 23:15:35
Ed’s
There’s an awful lot of negativity recently regarding who we brought in, but seriously look at the current squad now after all the Ins and outs (couts not included ) surely we have a squad that’s very capable of seriously challenging for the title this season. There’s a hell of a lot of talent there. Yes we could have done with a top class CB but that’s the world we live in Klopp f. d up, fine get over that one guys. 7 points from 3 games in the champions league and little or no injuries just one or two who need to improve on their fitness because we have minimum 2 games a week now.

I can seriously see us doing serious damage this year on 1 condition.


Please keep Mignolet on the bench that’s all I ask and if a player screws up once or twice lay off the guy. For example Karius he had a torrid time from the fans and he’s 10 times the keeper mingolet is.

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31 Aug 2017 23:58:31
An awful lot of negativity recently and then you go and take a dump on Mings? Get over yoursel son and practise what you preach.


01 Sep 2017 00:34:49
Ming’s is terrible that’s reality he should never have even been considered even ed001 will agree with me on that.


01 Sep 2017 03:44:00
There has been nothing so far to suggest that Karius is any better than Migs. let's just support whoever plays between the sticks.


31 Aug 2017 23:11:57
Really positive window for Liverpool. NK the plum signing but pleased with the rest of the business we done including loan deals. Solanke could be a real gem I feel. Couts obviously could still go in the next 24 hours but not to concerned either way. A shame we couldn't get VVD over the line. Will be interesting the reaction both players get if they play for the first team again.

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01 Sep 2017 00:27:53
I agree with you, and it's a shame the amount of negativity around our business. The Kieta deal is ok as we still have cover for CM as Can may well depart next year - so replacement is coming.
We need to see this as a big step forward and we are attracting players now, we will see about Coutinho tomorrow - until then save the doom and gloom and see what happens.


01 Sep 2017 00:53:56
But you should be concerned that Phil could go Because the way I see it we haven't replaced him with someone of his very high standard nk doesn't join till next year and ox wouldn't be a patch on Phil yet anyway I believe klopp will turn him good.


31 Aug 2017 23:08:48
Is the Sakho transfer official?

Believable1 Unbelievable0

01 Sep 2017 00:35:19
Announced tomorrow.


01 Sep 2017 00:42:13
It will be soon.


31 Aug 2017 23:07:41
Coutinho to start next week then.?

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01 Sep 2017 00:35:37
Lol doubtful.


01 Sep 2017 00:42:53
Well his back injury vanished rather magically, and is healthy now, so what would his excuse be to not making himself available now?


01 Sep 2017 03:45:44
Starting at the Nou Camp no doubt.


31 Aug 2017 23:03:01
Eds now this window shut who we getting in January lol.

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31 Aug 2017 23:02:11
i'm slightly frustrated how we have not managed to move on markovic, bogdan and flanno they are just player which we are just spending wages on for them to essentially not play.

Believable2 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 23:50:58
Not our money.


01 Sep 2017 00:17:12
It's to add depth to the side 😉.


31 Aug 2017 23:01:54
Eds thanks for all the news info and updates hope things quiet down now u deserve a break!
Cheers from us all 👍🏼.

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31 Aug 2017 23:01:12
pray to god that we don't sell pipco now.

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31 Aug 2017 22:58:31
Ok Eds, so when will the Couts situation be confirmed?

Tonight or tomorrow please?

Thank you.

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31 Aug 2017 22:52:19
Here's a question, if Coutinho stays, how will AOC get a game in midfield?

Coutinho - Can - Wijnaldum - Henderson - Grujic - Milner - Lallana.

Believable1 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 23:48:25
Simple, he plays better than the players you mentioned.


31 Aug 2017 22:40:49
Well another transfer window over. oh what could have been.

We will be in the mix come Jan and fingers crossed we can strengthen then.

Bet the eds are glad it's all over well once the pipco dibarclr.

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31 Aug 2017 22:51:14
Im still hopeing for Lemar. :D

We should just throw in 92mil and get on with it. He said in the post match interview that anything can still happen. Clearly he is fit enough. Just have the medical later.


31 Aug 2017 22:56:51
Would like to know who this defender Macca said we were signing on Tuesday? Made no bid for a CB?


31 Aug 2017 23:14:04
So eds what do u think the chances of us signing VVD in this transfer window are? Only kidding speak to u lot in October to ask the same question AGAIN 😁😁.


31 Aug 2017 22:33:53
In other news, how's does this change everyone's Fantasy Football selections?

Pulling my hair out already and thinking of a wild card so early on!

Believable1 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 22:46:43
I've decided to use mine, mainly because I wanted to bring Mane in.

Baz.


31 Aug 2017 22:33:35
On a footballing note the biggest positive from this window is player power has significantly weakened. Clubs holding firm.

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31 Aug 2017 22:51:32
Agreed.


31 Aug 2017 23:03:58
Here'here.


31 Aug 2017 23:08:03
We will be only ones who won't.


31 Aug 2017 22:33:18
So watching the NBC SN live report for deadline day. The entire panel said we had probably one of the best Windows. They pointed out our depth, giving the 2 fingers to Barcelona, and the fact that Ox took a pay cut to play with us over staying at Arsenal or going to Chelsea and Lamar saying he wanted a move to us not Arseanl. They said we are becoming a destination club again. We have Gomez who needs to get into the CB role. He needs to compete for the spot and make it his and we need to support him at it.

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31 Aug 2017 22:47:35
Lol what? Pip still likley to go tomorrow, the Oc? Really? Gomez? My god.


31 Aug 2017 23:02:53
Top post, Bergenred however, the moaners will be out in force cos we did not get the one player they wanted.


31 Aug 2017 23:26:16
I'm not counting my chickens over giving two fingers to Barcelona until this time tomorrow.


31 Aug 2017 23:39:25
Careful with that optimism. Such things aren't appreciated on this site.


31 Aug 2017 23:40:26
yup. always proud to be a Red

But I thought it was special that all our targets, landed or not, turned down London clubs including the reigning champions and probably bigger wages too,

We are on it.

YNWA.


31 Aug 2017 23:45:44
Klavan? Lovren?


31 Aug 2017 22:20:09
Howdy Eds and all.
I'm actually quite disappointed that we didn't bring in any CBs or CDMs this window.
Surely Klopp and Co. had a few names in mind for the CB role other than he who must not be named?
All joking aside, having a single target in Van Dijk without any backup options is bewildering. Everyone knows our defence is a shambles. Klopp must see that too. So why just target the one player?
As for the CDM role, it's vital for how we play, and a good player sitting there provides - as everyone knows -protection for the CBs. I know we're well overloaded in the midfield, . but none of them can actually play in the CDM role. They "play" there but are not in the least comfortable and more often then not forget what it is their supposed to be doing in favor of bombing forward.
This window, to me, has been baffling. Stacking up on players in the attack while seemingly ignoring the sinking ship that is our defence.
I don't think we even brought in a defence coach.
My tuppence anywho.

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31 Aug 2017 22:51:37
Defence really isn't that bad. sure it's not great, but it's not bad either.6 clean sheets in the last 7 pl games. What we failed in last season was when mane was out, phil coming back from injury. but we have depth now in Ox and Salah.


31 Aug 2017 23:06:09
RedRum for the upteenth time, Klopp does not play with a true CDM at least, not anymore so why should Klopp get a player he does not need.? Also, He likes to play with a pivot at the base of a three man midfield where all three attack, press and defend which is why he wanted Naby Keita to upgrade the dynamism there in CM. We have Can and Hendo who can play the #6 position so don't get your point, R.


31 Aug 2017 22:17:32
does the loan window end at the same time?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

31 Aug 2017 22:14:59
That was a belter by lemar wasn't it, not a bad swap for couts if that were to happen.

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31 Aug 2017 22:07:12
So Lemar will sign for Barcelona tomorrow and Couts stays with us.

Believable2 Unbelievable4

31 Aug 2017 22:23:29
The worst part about this is Balague gets to say he's right.


31 Aug 2017 22:25:03
Why not both? Coutinho was to replace Iniesta, Lemar is an option to replace Neymar after Dybala looks unlikely.

Barcelona would have gone from "In decline" to fixed in one summer. Lemar, Coutinho, Dembele, Messi and Suarez.


31 Aug 2017 22:37:27
Ugh can't decide if I want pip or not!

Have we added depth / enhanced first team / both / neither?

Keeper still dubious
Defence .
Well stocked midfield with 2 James Milners now in the ox

What's the craic with ings? Has he a future?


31 Aug 2017 22:49:48
Without getting Lemar I think we need to keep him. Sulky hit or not.


31 Aug 2017 23:07:17
That is a dear Klopp question.


31 Aug 2017 22:05:16
As I predicted at 11am this morning. Nothing will happen after OX transfer.
For most teams the action will move to January.
There will be a number of disappointed players waiting until next year.
The money men are not concerned with player motivation.

There are still areas Liverpool have to strengthen. This will again be apparent over the next four months.

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31 Aug 2017 22:15:29
Are you looking some congratulations for a complete guess.


31 Aug 2017 22:34:45
Well said.


31 Aug 2017 22:40:02
Agreed, can the club really have been that naive that only VVD would improve defence issues, was there even any other solid 'links' to other options?

And Barkley? Lol have a Chelsea fella working for me, hanging his head in shame.


31 Aug 2017 23:45:01
It was not a guess. My post didn't appear this morning.
I am disappointed, football has become a power game amongst money men.
Oh for the days of Tommy Smith!
It really is not difficult to work out. Therefore no guess.
However I do have a lot of faith in Klopp.
I still worry about the goalkeeper and centre back position.
We will be OK, for the moment.
I still believe in building from the back.


31 Aug 2017 22:01:44
On centre backs. I hope maybe gomez gets a chance there. He could be a great option.

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31 Aug 2017 22:24:56
We Hope he is a great player otherwise we continue with the poor CB's we had last season. Ple as e all reply with the 7 clean sheets in 9. I'll then say 3 very easy goals scored by Palace this season, very easy goals scored by Hoffenheim.
And we'll all pray that the attackers stay fit and score loads coz as sure as sh1t we are going to let in another bagful like last season and season before and season before etc etc etc.

But again hopefully the kid Gomez turns into Hansen or Rio or Terry in the next couple of weeks.


31 Aug 2017 22:31:42
Exactly how many defenders are out there that would improve us and hat klopp would want? That would come to us. It's not easy.


31 Aug 2017 23:10:18
Mcgoveb, our defence is actually very good in certain situations as we concede the least amount of chances and teams don't cut us open easily. It is our setup at set pieces and a lack of leadership in critical situations defensively that are at fault here. Also, we have 7 clean sheets in the last 9 PL games BUT I guess our CB's are poor. Get a grip, dude.


31 Aug 2017 23:46:45
Its A tough question. Vvd sounded just right.


31 Aug 2017 21:59:05
It's not over until the fat Molby sings.

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31 Aug 2017 21:56:21
Can't help feeling a bit disappointed with the window, especially if pip does go. However it could still be an exciting season. What's everyone else's thoughts? Don't think we've bought badly not sure on the ox but time will tell biggest issue for me is defence not being strengthened.

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31 Aug 2017 22:26:42
The defence has been strengthened. Robertson is better than Milner and TAA and Gomez are better than Clyne.


31 Aug 2017 22:42:03
If pip goes we are no better off really? Yeah Sarah looks good and mane playing awesome but what else? The ox who wants to be a central/ attacking mid? He can't have been told this, he's played it what 7/ 8 times for the arse in 8 years and each time looked lost.


31 Aug 2017 22:43:01
We'll all be watching the clock for the Spanish window to close. Imo coutinho is gone. There will be a way back for him with the fans if he stays ala suarez and gone in January. Not sure a new def fixes our defence regardless, think those problems are deep seeded. Just glad we didn't go and make a mockery of apology to Southampton. Perhaps we learned to conduct ourselves a little better.


31 Aug 2017 22:46:05
Milner was excellent last season so Robertson must be sublime, TAA had played what 2 games? Gomez less!

We fans seem to go for deluded to even more so by the day.


31 Aug 2017 22:47:49
even with him gone the squad as a while is in a better place than last season.


31 Aug 2017 21:55:41
Not suprised no other clubs put a bid in for vvd why would they want to open the door for lfc . if you know that's where he wants to go it would surely be better he stayed at safc than to go to your competition.

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31 Aug 2017 21:54:19
Lemar has just ripped Holland apart showed his quality even more in that game shame we can't get him think he would of been a very good signing ah well we move on let's get behind everyone at club and have a fantastic year no point dwelling on it.

Believable2 Unbelievable2

31 Aug 2017 22:29:46
Hollander were rubbish.


31 Aug 2017 22:52:21
Im sure someone on here would have been calling him overpriced and a waste of money within a month if he had signed.


31 Aug 2017 21:54:04
Have a look at the goal Lemar has just scored for France v Holland.
£92m looks like a bargain.

Believable3 Unbelievable1

31 Aug 2017 22:17:30
I'm near certain Markovic has scored a steamer in his time. Let's just keep him haha.


31 Aug 2017 21:52:33
The worst thing is going to be Matt le tiss with his smug face saying I told you so ☹️.

Believable3 Unbelievable0

31 Aug 2017 22:31:03
Their red gravey train has just come off the tracks.


31 Aug 2017 21:38:45
If Liverpool decided to put a bid in for VVD in January, could Southampton still pull the tapping up card? Would Liverpool still run the chance of an FA ban? Thoughts eds? Thanks for your hard work.

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{Ed002's Note - of course.}

31 Aug 2017 21:40:46
We are going to struggle playing Saturday Wednesday Saturday and over the busy Christmas period this year with just 3 senior cbs. Even with gomez. Last year we didn't have that many games and we still struggled for depth and that was with lucas still there to cover.

Can see us doing well until those games start mounting up and that's when we will drift off the top and accumulate less points. When u are playing champions league, premiership, fa cup and league cup u need 4 senior cbs and one youngster to get the cup games and fill in/ substitute on and off.

If we had of asked anyone what is the position we needed to strengthen most we all would have said defensively, instead 2 wingers, 1 striker and a signing for next summer have come in. Very strange business. Looks like we are going to have to try to outscore teams again this season which is why if coutinho goes to Barcelona now tomorrow before their window shuts I'll be fuming. Don't let 4 - 0 against a woeful arsenal side fool u, we will still struggle to score against the teams who get men behind the ball and sit deep and coutinho will be needed to unlock them with good passes and goals.

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31 Aug 2017 23:13:39
How many players do you want, lucasleiva? We ahve a better squad than last season as Gomez and TAA are now part of the first team and Robbo has upgraded the LB position. Our midfield is well stocked and so is our forward line BUT hey, you can always have a good moan, can't you?


02 Sep 2017 15:09:25
Bingored don't even get me started I wasn't moaning about anything and I never once criticised how well stocked our midfield or front line is so I don't know why your trying to put words in my mouth to pick a selective argument that u were clearly after. I was simply talking about the defense which isn't well stocked enough in my opinion and hoping coutinho didn't go which he didn't so I'm happy with that.

Some people jump at the chance to start a fight once anyone vents an opinion on a site that is made for rumours and people's opinions, honest to god.


31 Aug 2017 21:37:49
What is happening with Markovic Ed's?

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{Ed025's Note - i dont know harry..sorry..

31 Aug 2017 21:51:04
Now that it looks like VVD and Lemar are done with.

How would you rate this transfer window for us?

Where you think we will finish this year?

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31 Aug 2017 21:55:53
5th or 6th. Can't compete without a defense. Another season with main issues not addressed.


31 Aug 2017 21:58:06
If a CB doesn't come its a poor window.


31 Aug 2017 21:58:48
Have same defence, improved attack, couple of key squad men back from injury, Ward back at the club, some extras in the sqyad are gone, Gomez and TAA already getting good game time, big signing to come in next Summer. Seems relatively positive. Defence us no worse than last season. Potential to qualify for another year of UCL next season is what I think.


31 Aug 2017 22:23:28
We have bought a left back, have some very talented defenders fighting for places and have not lost any defenders but we are going to drop places? Even though we have clearly improved our attacking and midfield options. How many clean sheets have we had in out last 10 prem games also?


31 Aug 2017 23:16:21
Kloppshop, that would be 7 clean sheets in the last 9 EPL games BUT I guess our defence is still crap, right? Our window is positive and our squad is a lot bigger and stronger in good areas. We went from having no FB's to having our FB positions well stacked BUT again, we can always have a moan, right? We will be fine.


31 Aug 2017 21:50:44
It's bad business not to get a CB in.

We simply can't compete with four completions with the squad we have.

Our most promising young players out on loan who I thought would make the numbers up.
I really thought we would make a statement this window, if pip goes we would be weaker than last season.

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31 Aug 2017 21:59:22
Gomez and TAA aren't out on loan.


31 Aug 2017 22:25:32
Our most promising young players? Trent, gomez, ejaria, Woodburn, and solanke? Have I missed some deals today.


31 Aug 2017 23:18:26
OP, who says we can't? We have the FB positions, wide forward positions and midfield positions well-stocked so how about you wait and see how we do in these comps. before making hasty judgement?


01 Sep 2017 01:29:39
See how many will cope with 2 games a week with the high pressing game we play
Any injury to our first choice CBs and we are in trouble
It's not X box boys.


01 Sep 2017 08:19:02
Why do LFC need more in each position than the other top clubs?


31 Aug 2017 21:49:34
Barcelona will sign Lemar tomorrow. Must be worth a punt at 20/ 1.

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31 Aug 2017 21:49:17
Anyone see Lemar's goal for France?! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽.

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31 Aug 2017 21:45:48
why are we so negative? as ed002 (i think) said, we have already replaced coutinho by buying salah and playing mane in coutinhos position. we have started the season well so let's not give up because we didn't get a player we didn't want a week ago or a player we broke the rules to try and get. coutinho may go, he may not. but we are a team and i believe that we have players that fit our style of play better anyway. if he stays; let's hope he will be professional and plays well for us. we can not love players, we love the club-players are simply water on the mill. let's hope for a good season, i believe it will be!

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31 Aug 2017 21:56:54
watford draw and struggled to beat a very poor palace.


31 Aug 2017 22:00:28
Well said, the squad is no weaker tomorrow morning than it was end of last season and is more experienced this time around.


31 Aug 2017 22:05:27
Why do people say things like this.

The more top players we have the better.

I hope the board continue their stance and do not sell coutinho. Salah is great but does not give us what coutinho does.

This will be a long tough campaign and coutinho will be needed for success.


31 Aug 2017 22:26:27
As many have pointed out this isn't football manager, just because people want to sign 50 top players doesn't make them available. And considering some of the names people put forward would be an overpriced bag of meh the amount of whinging on here is shameful.


31 Aug 2017 23:22:30
If you are interested in always moaning about stuff, you will always have something to moan about. We have 4 more points, 4 more goals and 2 more clean sheets this season than this time last season. When we don't beat Palace, you moan. When we beat them, you moan. Nothing is ever good enough for some of you on here. Wallowing in self pity will not help us as a fan base so people had better get behind the team instead of always complaining.


31 Aug 2017 21:35:11
Ah Thomas, my gran could have scored that one mate, nice try. she's not signing for us either btw.

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31 Aug 2017 21:34:21
Absolutely fuming tonight that once again we've not addressed our centre back problem. I can't take other season of Lovren, he's hopeless and constantly gives away goals. I could name 50 centre backs better than him. Why didn't we just move on from VVD. Total incompetence from LFC.

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31 Aug 2017 21:47:04
Go on then, name them.


31 Aug 2017 21:47:42
The problem is set pieces clean sheets aren't as rare as people pretend for a team who plays so attacking.


31 Aug 2017 21:49:27
Surely you can't be a Liverpool fan.


31 Aug 2017 22:01:50
50 better, serious horse manure. He isn't the greatest but the world is not crawling with top class CBs. Hence why City are trying to buy Evans.


31 Aug 2017 22:02:18
Judging by his username he supports Crystal Palace.


31 Aug 2017 22:20:05
Bitter Sakho fan in exaggeration shocker.


31 Aug 2017 23:24:17
Sahko, nice rant. Hope you did not run out of breath writing that as it sounds like you were panting that.


31 Aug 2017 21:33:19
I now hope that gives some credibility to my earlier post in light of tonight's events.

Sorry to have been the bearer of bad news but what I said was accurate and tonight's stale mate has proved that.

I posted in the height of excitement and understand the lack of enthusiasm for it but still love this website and all the contributors and visitors.

If I here any future news I'll always update you all

I'll get back to my jokes over the next week or so to keep you entertained throughout the season

Thanks.

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31 Aug 2017 21:49:59
Are you funny then?


31 Aug 2017 21:57:42
I do try Ben Elf - only if you like Dad jokes! Let's try;

Arsene Wenger was wheeling his shopping trolley across the supermarket car park when he noticed an old lady struggling with her bags of shopping. He stopped and asked, “Can you manage dear? ” to which the old lady replied, “no way you got yourself into this mess, don’t ask me to sort it out! ”

:)


31 Aug 2017 22:03:16
He's just a chilled out entertainer.


31 Aug 2017 22:51:11
Made me laugh.


01 Sep 2017 16:15:39
That's funny.


31 Aug 2017 21:32:58
2 goals for Lemar, if only. Que sera.

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31 Aug 2017 21:32:57
Quick we still have 90 mins left get Lemar now 😂.

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31 Aug 2017 22:42:33
We got an ox don't. panic! Omfg.


31 Aug 2017 21:30:49
Lemar just scored a worldie! sign him up! haha.

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31 Aug 2017 21:16:18
Is that true klopp has spent 146m!
But sold 113m!
So net spend of 33m since he arrived?
Dunno how true that is!

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31 Aug 2017 21:27:25
Who cares.


31 Aug 2017 21:27:47
Does it matter? He hasn't won anything! Most of the players that left were never in his plans!


31 Aug 2017 21:33:24
I know everyone wants VVD and for good reasons. But how about giving the new England U-21 captain some some chances at CB. Might save us face and 80 million.


31 Aug 2017 21:33:48
It's could be about right in terms of pure transfer fees, but there's agent fees, wages etc. to factor in as well.

That being said, it would appear that quite a bit more than that was available to Klopp to spend, and he wanted to spend it on van Dijk and no one else. And we know what happened there.


31 Aug 2017 21:40:35
Sounds about right, add another £100m+ to that tomorrow when coutinho goes! The owners are playing a blinder! 💷💷💷.


31 Aug 2017 21:14:40
It's unforgivable that we have not bought a centre back in this window. We were arguably a CB away from being contenders, now we are an injury away from disaster.
Talk of £200m war chest. Yet again FSG will keep the wallet closed. How are we to take the next step and push on for trophies when they don't sign what's needed.
Am absolutely livid.
It'll be the same again this season, mistakes at the back dropping stupid points.
#jokeshop.

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31 Aug 2017 21:19:36
FSG don't pick players mate! Klopp wanted only VVD!


31 Aug 2017 21:20:01
I think they allocated the funds
Not their fault our top target 🎯 was approached in completely the wrong way.


31 Aug 2017 21:22:13
Please support Everton.


31 Aug 2017 21:25:12
Stubborn manager kloppo. Underwhelming window to be honest.
Top 4 still possible nothing more though.
We need to keep phil now because we can't afford to sell him. No replacement until next summer.


31 Aug 2017 21:25:36
Probably the most frustrating time to be a Liverpool fan. We are so good going forward, goals all over the pitch, just missing that one leader at the back, at least we didn't waste money on Lemar. Pleased with ox tho! Think he will fit in well with klopps guidance.


31 Aug 2017 21:25:39
Name a CB that's available and improves us?


31 Aug 2017 21:26:08
My goodness this fsg talk is embarrassing. Seen it all over twitter. Klopp wanted van dijk. Klopp was in the wrong. We had to apologise to Southampton. Southampton clearly don't and never wanted to sell the player since that embarrassing incident.
The club backed klopp. Instead of wasting our time on van dijk we should have lined up alternatives weeks ago!


31 Aug 2017 21:26:15
And some supporters are joke shop to with the team. By the way, is this your dummy?


31 Aug 2017 21:26:24
Always makes me laugh that people think this is an FSG problem, "FSG keep the wallet closed", if Klopp and the rest of the LIVERPOOL hierarchy (not FSG) had not ****ed around with regards to VVD so much we might well have our man.

However, that's the way it is and we'll have to deal with it now.


31 Aug 2017 21:26:34
AL, how on earth is this FSGs fault? You really need to assess what's happened this window. FSG were willing to buy VVD, they were willing to buy Keita (which they did, not sure whether payment is this year or next) The reason we haven't got our targets this year is because internally we have messed it up. Every player Klopp wanted, FSG were willing to buy and you can see that if you look back on the window. We can't blame FSG for not finding a replacement for VVD as that's the job of Klopp and co. FSG don't pick and choose what player we buy. I'm just as dissapointed in not signing a CB as anyone but if us fans are going to pass blame we need to direct at the right people, not just try and find a scapegoat.


{Ed025's Note - i agree TIA..

31 Aug 2017 21:29:59
You mean youd rather us just throw money away on someone who is not right for the team? Carroll, Benteke, the list is endless.
We have messed up not getting a CD but you can't blame that on FSG, we know they have fronted the money for this, it's just unfortunate the right players were not available.
We should of had backups though all along.


31 Aug 2017 21:30:52
FSG were quite happy to open the wallet for van Dijk. But it's not their fault that we illegally approached him and as a result couldn't bid on him, is it? And it's not their fault that we didn't seriously seek out an alternative to van Dijk.

Be livid at the right people please.

#jokepost #numpty.


31 Aug 2017 21:33:13
FSG are not to blame at all.


31 Aug 2017 21:35:57
FSG have backed Klopp on every target. Is it their fault Klopp tapped up VVD. If he hadn't he'd be our player ages ago and also some clubs don't want to deal. Monaco lost a lot of good players this window.
We've secured some good signings. our fullbacks have blossomed. It's only the CB's there's a problem and some coaching will sort that out. People need to chill out.


31 Aug 2017 21:37:53
AL, in what way are FSG keeping the wallet closed?
For me £92million for Lemar is a huge risk on someone who has only broken through in the last 12 months - nearly double what we will pay for our record signing Keita. Yes, in 12 more months it might prove a bargain, but I understand why we wouldn't go back in at that level.
No one can accuse of FSG keeping the wallet closed. If we had been more professional in our actions we would have a £50 odd million defender also on our books.
Not FSGs fault.


31 Aug 2017 21:43:48
Yes big Al we should have looked at other CB's.
It just seems that this was a great opportunity to make a significant signing in an obvious area that needed strengthening. With midweek European games as well this Swanson I think we have missed a big chance here.
IMO The scum will be the team to catch this year and I think this was a huge window for us.


31 Aug 2017 21:38:53
Joe Gomez 🏆🏆.


31 Aug 2017 21:40:10
Stop embarrassing yourselves with your knee jerk reactions just cos you did not get the player you wanted. You sound like spoiled, petulant children who are throwing toys out of the pram cos you did not get the chocolate bar you wanted. Our team is already better than last season, CB or not. Our FB's are sorted and our attack is even better and if Cou can get his head sorted and come back stronger, we are even better. So we did not get a CB, So what? Is that FSG's fault? If you don't know how a club runs, just ask and you will be told that owners don't pick players to sign so stop talking crap, AL1972.


31 Aug 2017 21:41:57
Statto. I don't agree with the OP but are you saying that there are not better CB's available better than Klavan and Lovren? I really doubt that.


31 Aug 2017 21:42:00
Well said Big Al.


31 Aug 2017 21:51:43
Yep disgusting that FSG and Klopp didn't identify some second rate championship level CB whose club would be happy to sell, and buy them, so they could keep people on here happy with a panic buy. Judging by some people they should be overjoyed by the situation cos they're clearly not happy unless they've got something to moan about.


31 Aug 2017 21:52:43
You're grown men acting like children we're in a great position the teams playing fantastic we've improved the squad we look to be in a good hands with klopp and FSG let's be honest it's not many (if any) have done better business than us. Go support someone else because as much as I'd love Lemar and VVD but might not get them so ah well life goes on Liverpool march on and klopp takes us forward.


31 Aug 2017 21:57:34
If Macca thought that VVD would go through, why did we not even put a bid in today?


31 Aug 2017 22:09:52
@BingoRed I'm not talking crap, just saying I'm disappointed that we have not strengthened in an obvious weak area. If Macca thought a deal could also have been done for VVD a few days ago, why was a bid not placed?
I think especially with European football we don't have the strength or depth at CB to push on and challenge. I believe with Klopp at the helm and the way he can attract top players we should have really pushed on in this window to push for a CB and I don't believe we have. Like you I just want what's best for LFC. I don't believe starting the season and hoping to end up in the top 4 is not acceptable That's my opinion.


31 Aug 2017 23:43:11
Statto
Davinson Sanchez would have been an improvement on Lovren
We didn't go for him
He went to Spurs whose central defenders make ours look like Sunday league players.


01 Sep 2017 21:31:01
Supermane, we cannot buy every player on the planet as we are not interested in every player on the planet.


31 Aug 2017 21:13:49
Aaaaand Lemar scores for France.

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31 Aug 2017 21:19:56
Beautiful finish! The lad is a fantastic talent!


31 Aug 2017 21:23:04
Price up to 120 mill now.


31 Aug 2017 21:24:19
What a goal aswell.


31 Aug 2017 21:32:36
Aaaaand he's done it again.


31 Aug 2017 21:39:31
The boy is a real talent. Just think we signed Ox and not Lemar, let that sink in.


31 Aug 2017 21:41:24
Am we got an ox! Team of dwarfs.


31 Aug 2017 22:39:26
It would seem Lemar wasn't even up for discussion as being for sale until figures of nearly 100m were being mentioned last thing today. Hardly as if we were offered him and said no we'll buy AOC instead. Do people understand that clubs don't have to sell if you want to buy one of their players and it isn't as if you're picking up a few cuts of meat ag the butchers.


31 Aug 2017 21:06:53
Ed2,

Any update on Mahrez?

If you get him, it will be wonderdul to see Hazard and him together.

Cheers.

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31 Aug 2017 21:40:44
Wrong page, Sami.


31 Aug 2017 21:05:14
Just leave this here 2015 Lovern, Toure, Skrtel, Sakho were the CB's when Klopp took over. 4 transfer windows later our CB's are Lovern, Matip and Klavan!

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31 Aug 2017 21:13:05
I would imagine he is thinking of playing Gomez at cb which is actually his natural positio.


31 Aug 2017 21:14:42
Yeah it's laughable. Plus we've got the extra games in the champions league.


31 Aug 2017 21:26:49
Disaster.


31 Aug 2017 21:27:40
And your point is exactly? Those original four were just as bad as those current players and were responsible for shipping in 50goals.


31 Aug 2017 21:29:10
Lovren and Matip started 13 games in the premier league last season, how can we go into the season with 3 senior CB's?


31 Aug 2017 21:46:39
Gomez is a CB but don't let facts get in the way of a good moan.


31 Aug 2017 21:42:42
What's laughable about it? When those CB's were here, we shipped 50 goals a season. They've all gone and we conceded 42 goals in the PL last season (6th best in the PL) . You may not like what I'm saying but it is the truth.


31 Aug 2017 22:18:27
Bingo red if Gomez is as good as Lovern, why isn't he playing ahead of him?


31 Aug 2017 22:19:44
What's laughable is you think 8 goals less is a big difference!


31 Aug 2017 23:58:15
12 from set pieces.


01 Sep 2017 21:33:57
Yes, Macguire it is an improvement BUT of course, you disagree which is fine.


31 Aug 2017 21:05:03
Yeah van dijks definitely not coming. Staying at Southampton.
I simply just can't believe we didn't sign an alternative.
We'll be dangerous and we'll be great going forward this season but defensively it could really hurt any title or champions league aspirations.

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31 Aug 2017 21:09:08
Gonna have to win games 6-4 Al 😂.


31 Aug 2017 21:15:08
To have no plan B for a CB this window is so disappointing/ baffling and will bite us in the arse.


31 Aug 2017 21:43:39
Klopp already said it is VVD or nothing. What I think is irrelevant. It is all up to Klopp now.


31 Aug 2017 21:01:08
Let's be honest lads, before little pipco threw he's maracas out the pram we would have been pretty satisfied with this window as it stands. I'm pleased klopp didn't just buy any old centre half. VVD is the man for me and I think it will happen at some point probably next summer. We are now stocked in midfield and plenty of options going forward. Probably not enough to win the league this year but we've waited nearly 30 what will one more hurt? LFC champions 2019 ynwa.

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{Ed025's Note - is that a white flag i see there danny?..

31 Aug 2017 21:17:24
Edward 25, how very dare you! I will never surrender, just think maybe with the current centre half maybe not realistic this year. Having said that, fancy us over two legs against most, so maybe 2018 can be become the new 2005. Sorry mate, I should be more sensitive to the bitters last effort 😬.


{Ed025's Note - what im reading is that 24 hours ago it was all sunshine and flowers now its all doom and gloom danny, you lot are so fickle, you have a top manager and a very good team mate, you,s need to lighten up a bit..

31 Aug 2017 21:21:29
Lol! I too see a white pigeon and white flag Ed025 😄.


31 Aug 2017 21:37:21
Too right Ed025 😃.


31 Aug 2017 21:45:25
Spot on, Ed25 BUT you know, many on here will always have something to moan about even when we win by 4 goals (not you Danny) .


31 Aug 2017 21:35:16
Edward you get me wrong my friend. I'm a realist as well as a romantic. Realism says no title, romance says European champs, stranger things have happened (apparently in instabul we won it 5 times) good luck to
Koeman and his band of also rans. Can't wait to the 9th of December, absolute carnage for the boys in red I reckon! Pickford wondering what hit him (other than the ugly stick)


{Ed025's Note - i cant tell the future danny but i do know one thing...the future is blue mate..

31 Aug 2017 21:47:08
A very good team Ed 25? You seem to think 6/ 7 Everton players could walk into our first team, that makes us midtable at best!


{Ed025's Note - no KK...that would make you champions mate..

31 Aug 2017 22:05:18
Denial is a river in eygpt, and salah is so fast he runs on water lol.


31 Aug 2017 21:00:12
Ed001 - 2 hours to go. Any more incomings do you think?

And any word from Macca?

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31 Aug 2017 21:32:15
I think it's done mate. And the Ed's are resting!


{Ed025's Note - we never rest westwood..

31 Aug 2017 21:37:51
Macca haha Tuesday centre half macca.


31 Aug 2017 21:49:04
Well you should, save your energy for all the VVD banter at 11:01!


01 Sep 2017 22:32:31
And you were saying? Told you weeks ago.


31 Aug 2017 21:01:33
Couts to stay and be back playing in 2 weeks. Klopp will forgive and forget and get rid next summer.

Please Liverpool let's not go through this again and get the deals done early.

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31 Aug 2017 20:54:35
I've sussed it out now lads!
VVD left Southampton hours ago in a vehicle with blacked out windows. The poor fella is lost, can't see where the fook he's going and now it's dark, we've no chance!
Who's stupid idea was that.

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31 Aug 2017 21:17:48
Le Tissier has taken him for a pint, he'll let him out tomorrow.


31 Aug 2017 21:41:09
That was Le Tissier driving. VVD was tied up and gagged in the boot!


31 Aug 2017 20:49:49
Lemar playing for france at the moment give him time to have a shower before he signs.

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31 Aug 2017 20:49:38
Get the feeling I'll be watching more German football this season.
Keita at RBL.
Origi at Wolfburg.
Kent just now gone to Freiburg.

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31 Aug 2017 21:06:57
Best of luck to all three.


31 Aug 2017 20:57:24
Spanish window closes tomorrow. Got to sell Coutinho for as much as we can get before then. Bad influence in changing room. Don't need to make same mistakes as arsenal, Monaco, saints on not selling.
Remembering Tores sulking on pitch. Get rid now.

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31 Aug 2017 21:48:20
Selling w/ o a replacement is stupid and bad business. You don't cut your nose to spite your face. Suarez did worse and still found his way back into the team after being dealt with decisively for his conduct.


31 Aug 2017 20:46:41
So what if Coutinho still leaves tomorrow?
What if our transfer targets are loaned to buy next season - ala Mbappe deal?
My god I am sounding desperate now! Ha ha
Sorry if I open up more questions for the Eds, in advance!

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31 Aug 2017 20:45:28
Would you be okay with a stop ap CB until say January?

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31 Aug 2017 20:45:16
Hi Eds,


If Barcelona were to offer a player in return for pipco tomorrow, would we still be able to accept the offer with the player? or does it have to be straight cash.

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{Ed002's Note - The window will be closed. I don't get how the Liverpool fans are struggling with this concept so much. The transfer window in England closes at 11 local time tonight. Liverpool cannot register players after this time and they cannot send back players who they purchased "subject to medical".}

31 Aug 2017 21:10:03
Ed002, i am not the brightest but are you suggesting we have agreed a deal 'subject to medical'? 😂.


31 Aug 2017 20:44:15
Ryan kent to freiberg confirmed.

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31 Aug 2017 20:59:31
Bit disappointed as wanted him to play abit this season. Fingers crossed he does well and gets into our squad next year!


31 Aug 2017 20:48:20
If lfc sell coutinho without a replacement I think the team is actually weaker than last year. Imagine back in the champions league and selling one of our best players. To actually only add one starter to a team who were thread bare with injuries last season and get rid of one starter is criminal. And to think our scouting department couldn't find a center back better than lovren in 2 months is scary. Anyway its what we as lfc fans have come to expect.

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31 Aug 2017 21:00:57
I have a feeling there might be a surprise or two yet mate. let's just see.


31 Aug 2017 20:47:37
I am glad with what we signed! My prioritiy would of been a cb! If matip and lovern get inured we are going to be fecked! And we all know they are going to get injured matip is glass and lovern get the flu every 3 wks!

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31 Aug 2017 21:38:57
Gomez is a CB we play him out of position at FB.


31 Aug 2017 20:37:23
VVD to stay at Southampton shock horror.

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31 Aug 2017 20:49:25
2 days ago it was crazy and exciting. Then we signed OX and it just deflated into this 😂
Ah well, bring on City.


31 Aug 2017 20:51:12
IT SUCKS.


31 Aug 2017 21:50:24
Get over it as life goes on.


31 Aug 2017 20:35:50
Cant believe the number of fans wanting lfc to buy just for the sake of it klopps got his list if we can't get them stick with what we have till the next window.

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31 Aug 2017 20:33:04
Us posters and EDS still have to go through it all tomorrow to see if Coutinho goes to Barcelona as Spanish Transfer Deadline is 01 September ( tomorrow ) don't know why they a Day later.

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31 Aug 2017 20:28:52
Eds, guillem balague has stated that Liverpool have not been after lemar this summer and that its fabricated rumours from his side, however it was announced on sky sports they were understood to have made 2 bids prior to balagues comments. Can you confirm what is actually real here? And more importantly now where does this leave Philip coutinho? Because reports from James Pearce and balague are saying he's staying put! Where as some editors on here are saying his going tomorrow? If you could clarify it would be much appreciated 👍🏻.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool approached Monaco but there were no acceptable bids. That is it.}

31 Aug 2017 20:40:11
And the coutinho question?


{Ed002's Note - I don't know which editors have told you what.}

31 Aug 2017 20:53:20
Yesterday an editor said the ox was bought for squad depth, and that lemar was a replacement for coutinho as klopp had had enough, but lemar isn't coming so does this mean cputinho stays? Some sources are saying he's going and others are saying the club remain adamant that he's not for sale, Just like to know what is actually going on regarding him as it stands at the present moment 👍🏻.


31 Aug 2017 21:51:36
Cou stays then, IMO Jimmy.


31 Aug 2017 20:22:31
Rumors flying around that the Coutinho deal is off. Any information on your end Eds? Thanks.

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31 Aug 2017 20:11:20
Is there any possible faint glimmer of hope that with 3hrs to go we may land a CB Ed?
Could they be working hard behind the scenes to get a deal done in the short time left?

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31 Aug 2017 20:23:26
So it looks like we will be going into the new season with Lovren and Klavan very much at the forefront of our defence.

Words fail me.

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31 Aug 2017 20:38:16
Has Joel Matip ceased to exist then?


31 Aug 2017 20:38:56
Matip starts over klavan mate and 7 clean sheets in the last 9 btw.


31 Aug 2017 20:44:56
Or lovren and Gomez?


31 Aug 2017 20:59:06
And 3 very easy ones against Palace.


31 Aug 2017 21:53:37
Spot on, Mikey. 7 clean sheets in the last 9 PL games with matip, Klavan and Lovren at CB BUT hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good moan.


31 Aug 2017 20:21:05
Definite need for this separate positive and negative page Eds 🙏.

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31 Aug 2017 20:44:58
😂 love this.


31 Aug 2017 20:16:29
Looks like that's it no one else in no one else out I'm not convinced about the back 4 but I honestly think pipco will come round and be as good as ever. (remember the season Suarez had the yr after Barcelona came calling) AL fit again. and an injury free studge. any worries about the back 4. if they score 3. we'll score 4.! Come on u reds👍👍.

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31 Aug 2017 20:49:14
Suarez and coutinho are two completely different people. With saurez, you have someone who is very competitive and was bought up playing his absolute best. You can see that he hates losing. Questions marks from coutinho tho and hopefully the world cup later this season will prompt him to perform for us.


31 Aug 2017 20:59:26
Agree with you completely, whether pipco stays or not, whether we get a new centre back or not, our plan will still be to score more than the opposition, worked for bill shankly.


{Ed025's Note - failed for kevin keegan..

31 Aug 2017 21:47:38
Ha ha, Kevin Keegan. Nice to see an ed with a sense of humour in these trying times. I could of course go into a long winded diatribe about David moyes here, but I don't think that will be necessary 😜.


31 Aug 2017 21:57:28
Ed025 keegan says" he would love it if pipco stays . just love it"😉😉.


31 Aug 2017 21:12:27
Ed025 Kevin keegan says "he would love it if we keep pipco. just love it! 😉😉.


31 Aug 2017 20:15:24
Two months ago I would have seen keeping Coutinho as a 'statement', but nobody could possibly say the same now and mean it. He's made a mockery of the club and fans and he's acted in a way to purposely change the fans minds about keeping him in order to convince the club to sell. A real talent to lose of course but as Ed2 said needs to be moved on regardless of whether a replacement is sold.

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31 Aug 2017 21:56:05
I disagree with the fact that he should be sold w/ o a replacement. That makes no business sense and regardless of the fact that Klopp wants him gone, he ain't stupid.


31 Aug 2017 20:13:59
I'm hoping there's an alternative to vvd now sakho has gone. time is running out but overall I'm happy with our squad. YNWA.

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31 Aug 2017 20:28:23
I don't think there will be mate.


31 Aug 2017 20:09:12
IMO, going into a champions league season with lovren, Klavan and Matip as our centre backs is mental. I know people will say Gomez will play, rubbish. He's played more games at full back than he has CB. Emre Can has played more games at CB than Gomez.

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31 Aug 2017 20:16:17
So are you saying that the manager will field and empty shirt if hasn't got 2 of those 3 rather than Gomez? The lad is getting game time and that in itself is significant. If it comes to it I'd fully expect him to be used.


31 Aug 2017 20:16:55
We all agree mate! But for some reason Klopp disagree. Klavan and Lovren against Dybala, Messi, Huguain and many more to come!


31 Aug 2017 20:20:10
My thoughts entirely!


31 Aug 2017 20:21:08
Agree! can't believe we wasted the whole transfer window, defensively.


31 Aug 2017 20:26:28
I would rather have LFCs defence than Man Citys, Stones Otamendi all puddings, the new goalie they have is worse than Hart.


31 Aug 2017 20:26:40
Gomez is a centre back though? He has also just been made England u21 captain, such is his talent.

Besides, what is wrong with Matip, Lovren and Klavan? I think they could be improved on, but last time i checked we finished 4th with them last season and we would've been higher if we hadn't been missing Mane, Henderson and Matip for about 10 games.


31 Aug 2017 20:36:30
We don't all agree. Perhaps if you laid of the players and stopped creating this anxiety amongst the players then perhaps they will perform with more confidence. Take Karius for example. His first mistake with the ball at his feet and most fans were on his case. The poor lads confidence was shot to pieces. Give the players a break, get behind them and you might see improvements.


31 Aug 2017 20:37:39
Agree with MK
They are 4 decent centre backs. Our style of play will always leave us exposed at the back at times.
That style of play also leads to us scoring plenty of goals.
We look far stronger squad wise this season than last and that includes the defence.
We didn't get everything we want from the window but the. What team does. I think we've done decent business.


31 Aug 2017 20:47:45
MK, there's nothing wrong with klavan lovren or matip so long as they don't have to defend. I like Gomez but he is very inexperienced. We have no problems going forward our issue is defending, and so far all we've done to address our defensive issues is sign an attacking LB.


31 Aug 2017 20:46:22
What is wrong with Klavan and Lovren? Do you watch any Liverpool games? Klavan has about as much pace as a 3 legged Donkey and Lovren makes errors every game and is a penalty/ red card waiting to happen. As for them being improved on at their age I really can't see them getting any better.


31 Aug 2017 19:59:58
Ed002

Is there a chance Pipco stays now with us not bringing in Lemar or a replacement?

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31 Aug 2017 19:57:27
Is that it then Eds? Shall I switch Sky sports news off? Or is there a glimmer of hope that we might be signing a world beater that nobody knows about? You've been very quiet today, all things considered.

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31 Aug 2017 20:19:44
Unless Natalie Sawyer or Sarah Jane Mee is on there, I won't be watching. I can tell you.


31 Aug 2017 20:19:57
They are probably bored of answering the same silly questions.


31 Aug 2017 20:07:57
Am I right in thinking that as long as clubs have registered paperwork by the deadline then the club can receive an extension to finalise a deal?

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{Ed002's Note - if the paperwork has been submitted then that is it.}

31 Aug 2017 20:06:44
Still loads of time too go LFC may still land one more yet. Eds thanks for all you hard work with all information you've all given us in the window hears too hoping our boys have a hell of a season ynwa.

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31 Aug 2017 20:05:02
I guess it's been manic. Macca clearly staying away as he had no news to give and I don't blame him as the A holes will be out calling him into question. I know there's a few hours left but it's not been too bad. Could have been a lot worse. I think Coutinho staying might be a bad idea though unless he can be reintegrated into the squad. Either that or take the money now and reinvest in Jan when we might need quality. Interested to hear Ed01's thoughts. I know Ed02 doesn't like us and has made his feelings very clear. Ha ha.
Me for one I'll be glad it's all over.
Also Origi was a great bit of business you Edwards and Co. just a shame we couldn't close Lemar. Yet.! We live in hope.

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31 Aug 2017 20:20:34
He called Naby Keita and said we hadn't stopped negotiating. So Macca's rep is top notch as always.


31 Aug 2017 20:02:56
Please quit whinging reds. Yes we haven't secured a cb but how many goals have we conceded this season? We've just made Arsenal look like ametuers on the pitch and we lie in 2nd place. If we can keep Lovren and Matip fit I think they will get consistently better. The full back areas have improved and we have good depth in attacking areas. Not forgetting Keita who's is going to be a world star. What's to whinge about really.?

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31 Aug 2017 20:01:58
Regarding VVD there is always a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow put everything you have and the kitchen sink on VVD being FIRST goalscorer when we play Southampton home and away.

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31 Aug 2017 20:01:48
Looks like January could be a busy window too then!

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31 Aug 2017 19:56:35
I have the solution to our defensive issues (ignoring the fact we have had 7 clean sheets in last 9 premier league games that is - title winning form BTW:

New GK - last minute deal for Gazzas mate Jimmy Five Bellies. We can literally park the bus with him as he fills out 90% of any goal mouth. Reckon a six pack of Stella and all you can eat pork scratchings should get deal over the line.

Job done :)

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31 Aug 2017 19:55:24
With ARSEnal wanting a replacement for Sanchez I wonder did we ever consider offering Sturridge + cash for him while we were discussing AOC.

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31 Aug 2017 20:03:29
Shame a season isn't nine games long then! Ha ha.


31 Aug 2017 19:53:24
Can't believe we've not bought a leader for the back. Bought two wingers, even tho scoring goals wasn't a problem. Conceding them was, and still is our downfall and we've done nothing about it.

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31 Aug 2017 20:04:10
But we've acquired another whinging negative fan in yourself.


31 Aug 2017 20:10:19
Very good CJ.


31 Aug 2017 20:17:51
Why thank you 😎.


31 Aug 2017 19:51:22
VVD, Coutinho, Sanchez all stays and they all will Sulk. What a season ahead!

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31 Aug 2017 19:50:09
Southampton are saying business is finished for the day.

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31 Aug 2017 19:49:54
Vvd will not be leaving! That's a wrap for 2nite lads.

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31 Aug 2017 19:49:23
For me city and united will be top two - I think Liverpool and Chelsea will battle for 3/ 4 - Both could be scuppered by injuries though! Arsenal will be slipping away and Everton could push up, but feel they lack pace and goals. I think if we got a CB we could have challenged, but will let in the goals we always do and struggle against bus Parkers!
If coutinho stays and can creat from cm, it may change things, but still don't think we can truly compete on all fronts with the problems at the back. Maybe taa Gomez and Robertson may stable us up a bit - but think with the energy we expend, we will struggle some weeks to turn up, especially when we need to rest mane or salah - hopefully studge can stay fit, and punish the the so called lesser Teams, and allow us to rotate without suffering.
Looking forward to this season a lot!

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31 Aug 2017 19:57:54
There is no chance in heaven Klopp going and making up with Coutinho.


31 Aug 2017 20:02:30
Can we stop the myth that we leak goals. The much maligned coaching staff have been working hard with our defence over last three to six months as record before was poor hence we have more clean sheets than ANY other premier league side during that period (7 out of 9).

We are second, only two points behind Man U who are apparently the second coming and in champions league group with realistic chance of progression which will help future coefficient and therefore better pot draw.

Bring on the season I say and let our attack terrorise even the biggest buses!


31 Aug 2017 20:03:14
Still not convinced about city. I think they are bit like us defensively and their full backs do not add anything except pace.


31 Aug 2017 20:05:05
Why do you know them personally? 🤔.


31 Aug 2017 20:53:14
Let's see how united do when they play some proper teams and the opposition doesn't just roll over.
Our starting XI is better than theirs but we also have a stronger bench now too.
City the ones to beat for me and I still fancy us to pip them too.


31 Aug 2017 19:40:18
Whatever you say about the club they surely know how to whip us fans up into a frenzy. £60, £70, £80 million player's and as usual I fell for it.

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31 Aug 2017 19:47:21
Not happy breaking out transfer fee record twice in one window no?


31 Aug 2017 19:50:02
What about Keita? Probably in the region of £60 million and we managed to secure him, albeit for next season.


31 Aug 2017 20:05:25
Some people will alway moan.


31 Aug 2017 20:06:03
I know we all want a new CB, me included, but our transfer business with Kieta coming next season is some very good business and a serious outlay of cash - IF Coutinho stays - which we will only know tomorrow when Spanish window closes.
Shame about CB, but all else I am very pleased with.


31 Aug 2017 20:07:34
Well said IMH.


31 Aug 2017 19:35:32
I STILL think 1 or 2 more twists to the tale!

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31 Aug 2017 19:46:20
You'll be waiting Simon.
We don't do twists.


31 Aug 2017 19:59:10
Told you. VVD and SANCHEZ staying! 😂😂.


31 Aug 2017 19:33:10
Lemar could be back on according to Sky.

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31 Aug 2017 19:40:11
Thats correct. According to my info the deal is already done. Plus Lemar coming in.


31 Aug 2017 20:00:39
yourinfo? LoL.


31 Aug 2017 19:29:44
Lots of people 'stunned', 'gutted' and 'devastated' we haven't signed a new centre back.
I think it's great news for Joe Gomez, he has a fantastic opportunity to make that position his own. He's currently picking up experience as a full back, getting his match fitness up. He has all the attributes he just doesn't have the experience. There will be no more in-comings before January so he has a good chance to get some game time.

If we'd signed a £70m VVD then this opportunity would be gone. I'm excited for the lad, I hope he saves us £70m and he could become a long term solution for us. He seems level headed and could be a future captain if he is handled the right way!

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31 Aug 2017 19:43:19
Here, here. Risky but here, here!


31 Aug 2017 19:47:47
Agree. Gomez just been made England under 21s captain also, really think he had a bright future.


31 Aug 2017 19:49:52
So how long will it take for Joe Gomez to bed in. When we are out of the champions league, league cup, race for top 4? We can put all the positive spin we want on it but not getting a CB in is a big mistake.


31 Aug 2017 19:50:16
Agree with Ron, let's hope he gets a chance and takes it .


31 Aug 2017 19:53:03
Sort of agree. Ideally I would have loved Vvd to directly replace lovren. Even though klopp has said he is happy with our cbs we know he definitely isn't happy with liven. Lovren to have been moved on immediately or maybe January would have been perfect. Leaving gomez with the same opportunities.


31 Aug 2017 20:04:22
I have no issues with Joe Gomez. I am very happy that he will get a chance in centre back and right back both this season and going forward. However, Lovren and Klavan.

Those are the two names that strike fear into my heart and they are both closer than Gomez to the centre back position. How can these two, Lovren in particular, be our second and third choice if we wish to push for a top 4 place!?

How is Lovren, the most inconsistent and error stricken centre back in the whole league, supposed to shore up our defence!? He is a liability, the fact that we have failed to strengthen in his position is incompetence of the highest order. We wasted months waiting for Southampton to decide Van Dijk's fate when they clearly said he would not be leaving. We had no backup option, ala Salah for Brandt.

We sent out feelers to Koulibaly and Mammama but they both came to nothing. So, it seems we have decided to stick with Lovren instead. That is just great. Fantastic news.

Now, Salah, Mane and Firmino have to score 3 or 4 goals every single game to stand a chance of winning matches. Lovren will always cost us goals, Mignolet also has it in him, Klavan is unreliable, Gomez is young but because of this lacks concentration at times, Matip is a good defender who at times looks poor because he is having to cover areas that both Lovren and Moreno have vacated.

It is so poor from Liverpool, in regards to strengthening a well-known weakness. Bringing in Salah and Solanke is great for squad depth, Coutinho staying could go either way depending on how he behaves this season. Although, personally, I want Coutinho gone. He has disrespected this club and behaved appallingly by feigning injury and not making himself available for important matches. The little rat will be welcomed back with open arms by the fans though and, in all honesty, I cannot understand why. Good, great player even, but he cannot be trusted.


31 Aug 2017 20:29:10
If we don't sign VVD tonight I do not think we will sign him at all. Liverpool have a habit that they don't return for previous targets. I can only think of Salah that has bucked that trend.

Baz.


31 Aug 2017 19:29:32
Well bar a CB it's not been a bad window as long as couts stays that is. Lemar at 90 mil is insane anyway.
Fingers crossed the scouts will actually find some CBs that are actually available for jan or next summer seeing as Klopp is not happy with either.

Come on red men.

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31 Aug 2017 19:55:42
Totally agree. People are so hungry for a deadline day signing they don't care if it's insane money, for a player maybe worth it, or if he'd even be a starter.


31 Aug 2017 19:28:42
Cheer up people let's just get behind the boys. Just have to out score everyone.

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31 Aug 2017 19:25:44
Hi Ed001

What's has changed today which has stopped us making signings? As it seemed all the noises yesterday were that we were going to do business

Thanks for all your hard work!

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{Ed001's Note - it is just never as simple as it seems. It is not like going to the shops and everything has a price so you know what it is. It is closer to an auction, some of the stuff has a reserve price so high that you can't even buy it even if no one else bids. That is if it is even in the auction at all.}

31 Aug 2017 19:47:26
At least they tried. I know there were a few (major) hiccups but they did try. My only question would be why not consider another CB. VVD isn't the only one out there.


31 Aug 2017 19:22:22
One things for sure, if Coutinho stays there will be no more Klopp bearhugs.

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31 Aug 2017 19:57:15
I struggle to pick him in my fifa career even. Ha though he also put in a last ditch transfer request and I forced him to stay.


31 Aug 2017 20:33:56
If coutinho stays I think he will come back cap in hand to klopp, the team and fans. He will not want to sit on the side lines and watch everyone else. Yes he has upset us all with the choices he made, right or wrong. I think he has been mis managed by his agent with the whole saga. He is one of our top players and I hope if he does stay he gets his head down and repays the fans and the club.

Baz.


31 Aug 2017 19:15:53
Wishful thinking but I hope that we have agreed to sell Sakho because a deal has been reached with saints for VVD. That would make my summer!

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31 Aug 2017 19:22:41
He's not be part of the squad for a long time, it has nothing to do with VVD.


31 Aug 2017 19:26:21
Considering Sakho had 0% chance of playing for Liverpool ever again irrespective of what happens with van Dijk, it's very wishful thinking.


31 Aug 2017 19:10:39
There will be uproar if we were to sell both Sakho and Coutinho over the next day and a bit.
Pretty sure Coutinho will be staying though, I have said it for weeks here, there and everywhere where people care to listen.
The club put out a statement on both Coutinho and Van Dijk recently, they will stick to their word on both.

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31 Aug 2017 19:26:05
Tell me what's the use! Klopp won't play him! What is the use of keeping him?


31 Aug 2017 19:29:51
Coutinho out was done today. He is off to Barcelona for around 150 Million.


31 Aug 2017 19:33:06
why would there be uproar? Sakho hasn't played for us for how long? And seems like the team can cope fairly well without Countinho (although my personal opinion would be to keep couts without a replacement)


31 Aug 2017 19:38:32
Why? What relevance has Sakho got to any incomings. He has been nothing more than a asset to sell for a while now. Getting nearly 30million for a player we didn't want was good. If coutinho goes it's not because we wanted to sell him. We tried to get players in. OK all haven't went well and I wish a cb had or will be signed but we have a quality team and squad as is so let's just support them.


31 Aug 2017 19:39:05
Uproar because we made money in this window despite been in champions league if couts goes.


31 Aug 2017 19:39:12
Well, you sell your most important creative midfielder then fail to adequately replace them and fail to do anything about the awful central defensive issues we had last year. That'll do it.


31 Aug 2017 20:02:39
Haven't done anything to improve our defence. We signed a left back and Trent and gomez have added to the options. The improvement needs to be made on the training pitch. It's not ideal but there are much worse defenders. Vvd will not magically fix our defensive problems if he does sign. Every corner and free kick is not going to be placed on his head.


31 Aug 2017 20:14:13
You'd need to ask the complainers, I never said I was complaining. I was just giving my opinion on our fan base's reaction.
Quite happy if Sakho is sold in fact.


31 Aug 2017 19:08:44
Just hope the attacking unit stay on form and fit the whole season as we ain't keeping much out the other end unless the other teams all play as poorly as Arsenal did. Its going to be one hell of a ride and I for one can't wait. GF 158 GA 90 GD +68.

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31 Aug 2017 19:14:52
You think we are going to average just over 4 goals a game? What are you smoking.


31 Aug 2017 19:10:01
Perhaps Liverpool will buy Lemar and loan him back for a season. Probably highly unlikely though, Can and Coutinho out. Enter Keita and Lemar respectively.

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31 Aug 2017 19:18:27
this deal would make absolutely no sense to anybody concerned. No 'probably highly unlikely' about it.


31 Aug 2017 19:03:56
If Ox is the last transfer, would've been a good window. Got in players for the positions we need - outside CB.
Hope the players that want out will get good deals to the clubs they want.
Icing on the cake would be Emre Can signing a new contract. If only he hadnt agreed to move to Juventus.

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31 Aug 2017 18:58:33
Could we get Lemar even tho he is playing tonight?

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31 Aug 2017 19:02:56
RTP or wait and see.


31 Aug 2017 19:14:18
Yes, he will sign the contract with his telescopic arm about 17 minutes into the match.
Then we will put a very tanned Jamie Redknapp on at half time to finish the match for him while Lemar is completing medicals/ media scrums etc.


31 Aug 2017 19:27:37
Presumably his agent can agree the contract on his behalf and medical can be done whenever. The challenge is registering the paperwork correctly by the 11th hour.


31 Aug 2017 19:28:41
He'll fake an injury around min 68, and the France medic will slip him the paperwork under covering it up in a cloud of cooling spray.


31 Aug 2017 18:51:19
Ed001 do you still think lfc will get some one through the door before deadline mate?

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{Ed001's Note - no mate, lost faith in anything happening now. Looks like nothing is going to budge. I do wonder what that will mean to Coutinho's future though, as Klopp does not want him. Would that be a kiss and make up or sell him anyway? I was under the impression he was being replaced and so would go, but I don't know if he will be allowed to leave without a replacement. After all Salah and Keita are replacements.}

31 Aug 2017 19:09:28
Surely there is no way back for him ed after what has gone on. He will leave tomorrow no doubt and Not getting a replacement in is a disaster.

Not going to vent my frustrations on here anymore as it ain't your guys fault at all and you do your best with the information you are given.

Another familular end to a transfer window.


{Ed001's Note - it does seem to be that way, we have them all lined up and somehow mess it up. However there is still time. Just.}

31 Aug 2017 19:04:51
Sad to hear Ed, expected more from us, difficult situation now with regards to Coutinho - not convinced we have made the right choices.


31 Aug 2017 19:06:01
Just too quiet ed for it all to be dead.

Hopefully still in negotiations or want to see can we get both deals for out coutinho fee.

For example have it all agreed for Lemar at say 84 mil and want to see if we can get vvd for 60 mil, if they want 80/ 90 aswel we might have to pick one.

Believe it's all there to get finalised.


31 Aug 2017 19:08:51
Can't sell now ed. it would be a massive failure.


31 Aug 2017 19:11:31
Yeah my thoughts exactly mate, I think we should sell coutinho and I'm sure if lemar come in then we could have said well we replaced him and the amount we have got and the fact how coutinho has behaved then best solution was to sell. Now if we sell him then it might cause unrest amongst fans saying well you said (publicly atleast) NOT FOR SALE. Yet you have gone back in that and he gone without a replacement been bought. I understand salah was his replacemt on the wing but I get the feeling coutinho was/ will be playing in the middle of the park. So ox maybe his replacement?


31 Aug 2017 19:12:56
Sorry ed that response is abit confusing, you don't think he'd be allowed to leave without a replacement, but Salah and Keita are replacements?


{Ed001's Note - yes. I am saying that just maybe they will decide that they want rid of him enough to decide Salah and Keita count as his replacements, rather than buying a specific replacement.}

31 Aug 2017 19:13:40
Klopp has consistently said he knows who he wants and the club have backed him. The deals for Lemar and VVD have stalled because the clubs won't sell. Just like we won't sell. PC. We should support Klopps long term strategy and expect both Lemar and VVD to arrive at some point if Klopp still fancies them. The younger players will be given their chance particularly Gomes and TAA. We are a much stronger squad this year and will develop and then we get NK next season. I agree there is now an issue with PC which is all of his own making. Let's see how he response and if he remains in his current mind set he will go at Christmas . Just need rover sort Can and I will be a happy supporter.


31 Aug 2017 19:17:40
Ed don't get ny hopes up again and say there is still time just lol. There can't be.


31 Aug 2017 19:19:01
Said it reminded me off br first transfer window. big anti climax.


31 Aug 2017 18:56:07
Reported this morning we'd be spending 175mil today.

Agreed 26 for Sakho and Barcelona ready 150 for Pip! 176 mil?!

Come on reds! 👍😂😂.

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31 Aug 2017 19:02:08
How hard can it be if Lemar has rejected Arsenal because he wants Liverpool, and as above if couts is going (which I don't think many would mind after his behaviour) surely we have the money to get it done?!


31 Aug 2017 19:30:00
Funny thing is I think at the moment in this window most would accept silly money patents to get Lemar and VVD in.


31 Aug 2017 19:42:47
Are people saying they would be happy for us to spend 90 plus million pounds on a young player who has done well in French football and with our attacking talent would not be a definite starter? The world has gone mad.


31 Aug 2017 18:52:33
Sakho gone to palace. 26million.

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31 Aug 2017 18:49:30
According to Sky we never had any interest in Lemar and the story was fabricated.

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{Ed002's Note - Gosh. Really.}

31 Aug 2017 18:58:36
Bloody hell. Fair play. Fingers crossed we keep coutinho then.

Add vvd to the mix and sall good.


31 Aug 2017 18:58:41
I reckon sky might have some inside knowledge of who fabricated this story 😁.


31 Aug 2017 19:22:07
To be fair, Guillem Balague would definitely be able to spot a fabricated story.


31 Aug 2017 18:48:51
Sakho to palace for 26 million done.

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31 Aug 2017 19:05:18
Medical first me thinks.


31 Aug 2017 18:46:21
Feels like a lot of the fans (if they can be calped that) just want to see us spend just for the sake of spending. I mean if we can't get who we want id rather stick with what we have. Complaining about another failed transfer window 3 games into the season 2nd in the league.

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31 Aug 2017 18:59:19
No but coutinho could very well be gone tomorrow morning. So getting Lemar done tonight would be crucial.


31 Aug 2017 18:59:48
We needed a centre back even Stevie Wonder could see that. As for spending for the sake of it the club and Klopp knew the chances of getting VVD were as good as nil. There was lots of time between the clubs apology and now to identify someone else.


31 Aug 2017 18:40:15
Sakho to palace fee agreed. 26mill.

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31 Aug 2017 18:49:34
Good news!


31 Aug 2017 18:39:53
Just had a text from a mate saying everyones calling it a day at melwood.
If true looks like we've finished for the summer.

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31 Aug 2017 18:50:56
Stunned no centre back.


31 Aug 2017 18:59:47
Well Lemar is in France and vvd in st George's. Oh and it's international break so they may aswel go home.


31 Aug 2017 18:39:49
According to SSN
" the Gunners' club record offer for the France international was accepted by Monaco" and "One source has told Sky Sports News that Lemar is not interested in a switch to the Emirates and would prefer to move to Liverpool".
This would at least suggest that Monaco are not adamant about Lemar staying and are open to the possibility of selling, hefty hefty fee but it appears the ball is in Liverpool's court now.

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{Ed002's Note - Lemar has said nothing of the sort - Wardak said earlier in the day that his desire was to play in the Champions League and that Arsenal had at that point not confirmed the package that would be offered to the player.

Monaco are open to a sale.}

31 Aug 2017 18:51:04
If we bid enough now though that Monaco accept, there isn't enough time to get the terms and medical done.


31 Aug 2017 18:56:07
Do u think a deal can still be done if we make an acceptable bid an how likely is another bid.


{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

31 Aug 2017 18:33:06
Seriously how does Guillem Balague get away with it?!

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31 Aug 2017 18:38:34
He's just said we where never in for lemar! It was lemar that wanted us.


31 Aug 2017 18:45:14
Ok mate. I'm pretty sure we were in for him. So he released it to the press that Liverpool made 2 bids for him? Hmm strange. Lemar tapping us up.

Coutinho is already done. Absolutely. Just to quiet on that front.

We have ox. Hopefully not his replacement.

Vvd I'm thinking will be done. Then it's Lemar, with coutinho already jetting off.

End of the day. When else are you going to get offered 150 million. I mean come on.


31 Aug 2017 18:32:21
Sakho having medical now.
We'll have broken even this window at this rate.

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31 Aug 2017 18:42:24
I don't see any problem with Liverpool selling a player they don't want and getting good money in the process.


31 Aug 2017 18:42:34
Really?


31 Aug 2017 18:45:34
With who.


31 Aug 2017 19:03:40
Broken even, how you work that out?

Salah - 39m
OX - 35m
Robertson - 8m
Solanke - 3/ 5m = 85/ 87 m

Sales,

Stewart - 4.5m
Sakho - 26m
Lucus - 5m
Wisdom - 2m = 37.5m

I was brilliant at math but I'm sure 37.5 is a lot less than 85/ 87!


31 Aug 2017 18:25:13
possibly a question for ed002 - why are the likes of Riola and Mendes on silly money compared to other agents and why do they have such an impressive client base, do players join them because of their connections or are they actually really good at their job in getting the best for the player? How do they get such good deals for their clients compared to other agents?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't have the time to answer this now - try next week.}

31 Aug 2017 18:48:12
You have to have a snappy name to be a superagent:
Mino,
Pini,
Kia.


31 Aug 2017 18:26:18
The club has done a very sharp bit of business with regards Divock, IMO.

Wolfsburg pay his wages, will pay a whopping loan fee of six million of your English pounds, and he can be recalled in January.

Solanke must've made a big impression, but I hope Divock has a future at LFC.

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31 Aug 2017 18:25:38
Eds why didn't or haven't we bid for vvd?

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{Ed001's Note - because we will not antagonise Saints by bidding unless they give the ok for him to leave.}

31 Aug 2017 18:39:05
Which is exactly how we should conductg ourselves, and should of conducted ourselves, originally. I'm glad we are acting reasonably.


31 Aug 2017 19:02:07
I can't believe we didn't seek out an alternative after Southampton made the complaint. Surely there has to be another cb available who also fits the way we play.


31 Aug 2017 18:16:27
Getting conflicting responses from The eds is confusing me! I love how much info you guys provide but when one says transfers can happen subject to a medical, and then the other says they can't, just leaves me confused about what's right and wrong. hopefully this can be cleared up so we're all on the same pag, appreciate it.

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{Ed001's Note - they can submit paperwork, so long as the deal is agreed, allowing them to extend time to get it done. It allows them a few extra hours to do the medical and submit completed paperwork.}

31 Aug 2017 18:21:42
Eds do u now believe that our window is over.

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31 Aug 2017 18:17:39
Right that's us done then people.

Lemar we didn't offer enough and now not enough time left for medical.

VVD a no go and mo contact after the statement.

Coutinho gone tomorrow.

Another frustrating window of promise unfolds in front of us.

Onto the season ahead.

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31 Aug 2017 18:24:49
Just a headsup medicals can be done tomorrow its all about the paperwork that's has to be put through by deadline time.


31 Aug 2017 18:42:06
Not true. Ed002 said down the page that Arsenal pulled out the Lemar deal (hours ago) as wasnt enough time to get medical done.


31 Aug 2017 18:15:44
What a clown former liverpool player been tweeting that we are going to sign vvd. David Thompson getting fans hopes up t**t Jamie carrighar not much better with his comments to 2 bang out of order transfers done for liverpool fc.

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31 Aug 2017 18:25:19
You don't deserve to call yourself a Liverpool fan.


31 Aug 2017 18:33:28
Jamie carr only said VVD signing for Liverpool would be . Not that he was signing for us.
Why make up stuff to have a moan?


31 Aug 2017 18:59:30
Why are your posts always so negative.


31 Aug 2017 19:24:31
Farno- how else to get noticed?


31 Aug 2017 18:14:06
So, that's it then it seems, disappointing after all the hype.

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31 Aug 2017 18:04:31
Thoughts on the window as it stands eds?

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{Ed002's Note - Fine.}

31 Aug 2017 18:08:49
Would you be satisfied with Lemar in for £90m approximately and Coutinho out for £130m upfront plus maybe £10m in add ons?
Or just finish with this window now as is?

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31 Aug 2017 18:13:25
Way over odds but if lose Couts and feel we need replacement then it is what it is. money is clubs decision not mine :)


31 Aug 2017 18:18:13
At 21 not prem league prove and not seen much of lemar then in an ideal world i would prefer to keep coutinho and for the price being quoted for lemar. But. coutinho has made his bed and his actions haven't made me think he committed to lfc so coutinho has to go and lemar brought in.


31 Aug 2017 18:26:34
Lemar is not happening as he's away to get changed for a football match in an hrs time. When would he do his medical and sign a contract? Half time?
Couts will not be sold either, klopp will need to sit down with him and get his head straight for the season. Phil will realize he has to play this year or risk not getting in Brazil squad for World Cup. It'll sort its self out in the wash as they say. 👍.


31 Aug 2017 18:29:35
Makes no differance mate. Lemar ain't coming. Coutinho is going tomorrow.

We are done.


31 Aug 2017 18:34:28
Coutinho going with no one in the squad with even close to his kind of ability to pick a pass and take a free kick is negligent bordering criminal. Poor show all round.


31 Aug 2017 18:57:56
Did we not just beat Arsenal 4-0 without him, playing some of the most scintillating football seen at Anfield? Thought so.


31 Aug 2017 19:02:55
Mr Dennis, you really do post some rubbish.


31 Aug 2017 19:04:01
I'll be disappointed we haven't brought in a creative player if Couts leaves surely klopp can't be expecting Ox to take his place.


31 Aug 2017 17:59:41
I'm away on holiday so limited acess to what's happening but if we don't get LeMar and Coutinho srays then thata more than good enough for me. On the other hand not bringing a centre half In gas been an error and I know we tried but defending will still be our achilees heel! That being said very happy with what we have done and if Coutinho stays so roll on a hell of a lot of goals be it at both ends this season!

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{Ed002's Note - So you will be happy with a player who wants to be elsewhere, has put in a transfer request, pretended to be injured and sick and has no relationship with the manager?}

31 Aug 2017 18:16:27
To be honest ed002, yeah I would. As fickle as that may sound. We are not the force we once were and he is a player that would grace any team. I know what football is these days and what these premadonnas are like but in my thinking, it's world cup year so he has to get back to it once this window closes so is he going to improve us? Absolutely he is and we can sort his crap out next season. Let's face it froma a liverpool point of view, we are a better team with hI'm than without him!


{Ed002's Note - The world cup is of no relevance Robbie - he doesn't want to play for the club and needs to be moved on.}

31 Aug 2017 18:18:49
I don't want Coutinho personally.

I will be disappointed if the club let's him go and doesn't replace him as its been going on for a while now.

But yeah don't have anytime left for Coutinho. He's shown he will be unprofessional don't need that in the dressing room.


31 Aug 2017 18:30:49
These modern day footballers don't give a toss really about the club's and fans they play and there word and contracts signed means nothing but my point is, we are a better team with him. He has though lost all real respect I had for him and and my thinking of the modern day footballer.


31 Aug 2017 18:37:07
I'm with ED002 on this, I don't want Coutinho anywhere near the club. We should have got the best fee we can then bring in someone quality. That we have failed on both counts is a disgrace.


31 Aug 2017 19:04:00
The fact Coutinho wants away, will not affect the dressing room one bit. Professional footballers just get on with their own stuff. Did it affect the Dressing room for that year when Suarez wanted away. No.


31 Aug 2017 17:59:03
Was quick question if A club has bid X amount of money and the player don't want too go to that club can another club bid under what the bid that the first club has bid I. E. arsenal.

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{Ed002's Note - A club can bid anything they like.}

31 Aug 2017 18:22:41
I get where he's coming from, for example where Arsenal had a bid of £92M Accepted but Lemar prefer's Liverpool, could Liverpool bid for example £75 Million or do they have to match the £92 Million?


{Ed002's Note - Why would Monaco accept a bid they have already scoffed at and Lemar has said nothing about who he prefers? He has been away from the press at Clairefontaine all day and will now be at the ground piolishing his boots.}

31 Aug 2017 18:33:20
Fair enough eds.


31 Aug 2017 19:05:22
So SSN, and ESPN are lying then.


{Ed002's Note - About what?}

31 Aug 2017 17:57:36
Ed002 a couple of journos have said Coutinho ..............

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant ae don't want to get in to that sort of thing on the website.}

31 Aug 2017 17:55:49
Yesss, window is nearly closed so time to argue over next summer's window and transfers in.
Will we still need a CB?
Will we finally sell Markovic?
Will we replace Mignolet with Oxlade Chamberlain's hair?
Stay tuned, all will be revealed.

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31 Aug 2017 17:55:48
Well that's vvd off according to sky. All banking on lemar now, i reckon we're done now to be honest.

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31 Aug 2017 17:54:24
Quick question for any of the eds. ..........

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{Ed002's Note - Try the MC page.}

31 Aug 2017 18:37:38
It was in relation to if he was surplus would he be an option for is late in the window .


{Ed002's Note - Just a random name.}

31 Aug 2017 18:49:08
..................


{Ed002's Note - BECAUSE IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH LIVERPOOL IN ANY WAY OR FORM. NOT ONE IOTA. GO TO THE MANCHESTER CITY PAGE AND ASK ABOUT THEIR PLAYERS RATHER THAN BEING A COMPLETE CRETING AND WASTING EVERYBODY'S TIME WITH YOUR DRIBBLING NONSENSE.}

31 Aug 2017 19:07:59
Well done you -------------------


{Ed002's Note - You are trolling the site now - so don't come back.}

31 Aug 2017 17:49:13
If things where to end now and transfer window closed what does ed001 think about the player power. We have heard for months that player power always wins but this summer (if things ended as is) seems to be clubs holding the power. I. e. coutinho, vvd, mahrez etc? Is the tv money giving clubs more power to say no to players? And do you think it will continue?

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{Ed001's Note - that depends on how they perform over the next few months. If they all sit and sulk on a beach in Brazil with Diego Costa, then clubs have achieved nothing other than a major accounting loss. If they play regularly and well, then player power is massively weakened.}

31 Aug 2017 18:07:19
Where do You stand on player power ed, I understand clubs not wanting to keep players who actively seek pastures new and fein injury to force moves but if a player is an integral part of the team and could weaken your team and strengthen a rival and these players paid handsomely by the club then they should conduct themselves accordingly. But I know sod all relating to football business side of things and just want liverpool to do well so that just the way it is I suppose.


{Ed001's Note - it is difficult, there is a fine line between players having too much power and clubs having too much power. More of an issue for me is the power in the hands of intermediaries.}

31 Aug 2017 18:20:05
Cheers ed, much appreciated.


{Ed001's Note - welcome mate, nice change of subject to be honest!}

31 Aug 2017 17:51:05
Although today has been highly stressfull must also say how nice its been to be involved in the day,

Dont think we've made a deadline signing since Klopp has been in have we?

Virgil and Lemar now and sort that little brazilian out and we are going to be scar this year,

Lemar we presume is a replacement for phil of course but what if he isn't and we are really going for it this year, how scary will we be on all fronts.

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31 Aug 2017 17:50:34
Tonight I'm the optimist - I believe there is still at least one deal to be done inwards! Not ITK - just gut feel based on everything I'm hearing.

Happy to be a realist tomorrow :)

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31 Aug 2017 18:02:45
I feel the total opposite mate am holding out hope for VVD but seems its all just 2 quite :- (.


31 Aug 2017 17:49:09
How many times have the edds bounced their heads off the keyboard today😂
This site is going crazy
Inside the last 5 hours people have went from lemar signing to not signing to back on and vvd in a car heading up the road. Now we have had a crap window and will fail e5c e5c

Jusus. take a breath and see what happens lol madness.

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31 Aug 2017 17:48:56
Question for Ed002 please. Are we going to go in for Thomas Lemar and Van Dijk or are we done for the window?

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have not made a sufficient bid for Lemar so no, given that regardless of making an improved bid they will be unable to conduct a medical. Liverpool have yet to publically withdraw their apology over van Dijk so it is possible - we'll see.}

31 Aug 2017 18:10:22
So Lemar definitely a no go ed? And unless we back track on VVD we are done?


{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

31 Aug 2017 18:06:40
Ed could we not agree a fee with Monaco and do a medical after the match.


{Ed002's Note - The transfer window closes tonight.}

31 Aug 2017 19:04:26
I was under impression the paperwork can be submitted and the medical can be done afterwards.


{Ed002's Note - Sure, but you will already have purchased the player. There is actually no rule requiring a medical at all.}

31 Aug 2017 17:52:02
Hi eds, do you still think Sakho will be moved on or have we messed up by wanting to much for him? Can't see palace coming back in as they have signed mangala. Anybody else interested?

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{Ed001's Note - I think it is unlikely we will get rid now.}

31 Aug 2017 17:40:18
Ed001 I no you said that Pearce from the Echo only sais what the club tell him to say but he has just said that anymore deals are highly unlikely today!

I hope he is way off with this mate?

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31 Aug 2017 17:39:52
Love this site but have only posted a couple of times. This must have been covered previously but how are Sky allowed to run a sports news channel and a betting company? Surely a conflict of interest with one fuelling the other. 12 noon sky sources say Arsenal are in for Lemar, 6 hours of betting ensues then Sky sources say, we understand Arsenal have withdrawn Lemar interest. Criminal.

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{Ed002's Note - Sky is only a minority owner of SkyBaet (20%) and have internal processes that stop this. The Gaming Commission has looked at this a couple of times and have no concerns. However, there clearly is the potential to influence matters. The Lemar example is poor as Arsenal had a bid accepted by Monaco but there was insufficient time to conduct the medical whilst he was preparing for a game. So they called it as it was.}

31 Aug 2017 17:55:59
Thank you for the reply Ed.


31 Aug 2017 17:56:30
Ed002 - I take it we would also be unable to get a deal completed for Lemar now if Arsenal couldnt?


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not made a bid that is anything like acceptable so it is moot.}

31 Aug 2017 17:59:12
Can't a deal be completed today subject to a medical though, Ed002?


{Ed002's Note - No, of course not. The transfer will be closed.}

31 Aug 2017 18:01:18
Fair assesment ed. So that must mean that we also have insufficient time to conduct a medical and get it done?


{Ed002's Note - You cannot have a player take a medical who you have not made an acceptable bid for.}

31 Aug 2017 18:09:20
That's fair ed but I thought one of the eds mentioned today that a medical can take place after the window shuts?


{Ed002's Note - Sure you can do that, but there would be little point as you would own the crock with a heart defect and one arm by then.}

31 Aug 2017 17:16:49
Give it to me straight eds.

Are we signing a centre half this window?
Is Lemar still possible.

Awesome job
Scott.

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31 Aug 2017 16:48:58
Eds,

Just read that Allan has a loan deal to Cyprus. How many years does he have to do in Europe to get a work permit for UK? Will he be able to play for us? If you have time of course.

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{Ed002's Note - It is unlikely in my view.}

31 Aug 2017 17:29:18
No more coming in - hope we keep PC now.
Window over (nearly) .

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31 Aug 2017 17:29:05
I hope sakho and markovic leave permanently - sakho I don't want around and he's on fair wages, and markovic to hoepfully rekindle his career. Thinking about wide players though, if we rested mane and Salah, we could play Ox and Kent wide, but markovic could have put his name in the hat, he wasn't bad last season - too late now though!
Glad origi got a decent level loan - I hope we haven't given up on him, but good for his career I think.
Can't see any more incomings - so could couts stay?!
Can't believe we never moved on from vvd tbh, seems like everyone at the club believed it would happen, but no bids made - quite rightly too with the statement made! That had to be the time to look around though.

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31 Aug 2017 17:28:33
Just reading the site and came across what Ed001 said about him not thinking our business is finished today in regards to incoming players. Dya know what, even if we are, we have had a better transfer window than we have had in a long time, players are back to choosing us over other top clubs, we are playing stunning attacking football with what we have and Klopp seems to have learnt a lesson tactically. Given how far we had fallen, regardless of what else happens today I'm seeing this as a massive step in the right direction.

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31 Aug 2017 17:26:31
Here is my take on lemar. If klopp really wants I don't think fsg will mind shelling extra 20mill on him. We already bid 72 mill haven't we? What is this crying over arsenal bid and we won't match it?
Ed's ask to not to talk about money but I don't think if we really want him we will back out because we need to bid extra 20mill.
Is he worth that money is the decision club needs to make and if they feel he is I think we will match arsenal bid.
Another point in the same vain is why is everyone saying we funded arsenal move for lemar by giving them money for ox? I think mancity are paying bulk of lemar fee by buying Sanchez.
I hate when lfc fans just start with negativity and it's all doom gloom.
If what we have seen this season on the pitch from players doesn't excite you I don't think what will.
Like it or not pipco or not, this is the best lfc team since 2008-2009.

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31 Aug 2017 17:40:22
Yeah because 20 mil is meaningless.


31 Aug 2017 18:05:16
Spot on, Akshit. It seems many of our fans wallow in negativity cos they are unable to ever be rational and look on the bright side of thing. s. It's all or nothing and there is never any middle ground.

Also, 20m is not small money so people need to stop being petulant. Those saying that we funded Arsenal's bid for Lemar, is the very reason the Ed's don't talk money on this sight cos that statement is pathetically preposterous. Arsenal have money to spend big, just like any team in the top 6 do and thinking that they were waiting for us to buy the Ox so they can use the funds to fund a bid for Lemar, is just senseless and baseless. Good grief!


31 Aug 2017 18:24:32
It is meaningless because it is not your money. Fsg are not going to increase ticket prices because they shelled extra cash on a player. We are irrelevant when monies are involved. We are not the investors it is certainly not going from our pocket so we are no one to say that 20 extra million is a lot or nothing. If club finds sense and need to invest and manager asks for it owners will invest or they may not. It's totally there decision. Why make such a wallop fuss over an issue that doesn't concern us. Why can't we just be supportive as supporters of the club.
Understand everyone has an opinion but we should not speak about matters where we haven't got a clue aka money.


31 Aug 2017 17:22:27
People criticising the club for not buying a CB need to take a minute and look at our recent history on purchasing centre backs.

Summer 2016 - Signed Matip and Klavan
Summer 2015 - Signed Gomez
Summer 2014 - Signed Lovren
Summer 2013 - Signed Sakho and Toure and Ilori
Summer 2011 - Signed Coates

So apart from Summer 2012 we have signed at least one CB every single year and 8 CBs in 6 years.

The club are buying CBs. The blame should go on the scouts for picking the wrong ones or the coaches for not developing the ones we do buy.

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31 Aug 2017 17:37:25
2013 signed Mignolet
2+2=.


31 Aug 2017 17:11:36
Van dijk is going chelsea.

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31 Aug 2017 17:17:07
Why mate?


31 Aug 2017 17:36:17
You've said this numerous times and still it's not true.


31 Aug 2017 17:06:57
Just curious if Lemar dug his heels in and refused to go to Arsenal could he stop the move and look to move to us still? Say we offered £75m and sit and wait to see if they'd accept? I assume he'd have to hand in a transfer request, forgo his 5% and so on.

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{Ed001's Note - he can refuse to go to Arsenal, no one can force someone to go somewhere they don't want to.}

31 Aug 2017 17:26:16
Ed does that mean we are still in for him or wat.


{Ed001's Note - nothing has changed from our end, we have not lost interest.}

31 Aug 2017 17:28:37
I think the problem for us would/ will likely be the fee, not sure if we'd be willing to go so high, and I'm also not sure the player wants to leave badly enough that there could be some sort of compromise.


31 Aug 2017 17:33:40
Ed001, surely it's beyond the 'interest' stage now though? There's just over 5 hours left. unless there's stuff happening that we don't know about? Cheers.


{Ed001's Note - well yes, we have been trying to get a deal done.}

31 Aug 2017 17:06:33
Lemar has snubbed l'arse as be only wants to sign for off, Wenger bid £50 mil for him a few weeks back and now got desperate and bid £92 mil. Wenger has lost it!

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31 Aug 2017 17:13:27
I am sorry but we could get Sanchez for half the price! He desperately wants out and will have no preferences! Sanchez will win us the league!

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31 Aug 2017 17:18:24
I agree.


31 Aug 2017 17:27:35
I would prefer Lemar for short and long term but you are correct Sanchez would undoubtably have the best year of his career if he came. He would not fit into the wage structure though. Maybe a sign on bonus?


31 Aug 2017 17:37:31
Sanchez doesn't want us so why go there again to be rejected again?


31 aug 2017 17:03:55
i hear city are close to signing sanchez.
i can't bear the thought of us facing him again 😭😭😭.

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31 Aug 2017 17:15:42
Why that? Did F-all last time he played against us.


31 Aug 2017 17:15:50
Alongside Silva and Aguero 😄.


31 Aug 2017 17:20:30
But he was ineffective against us? I wouldn't worry that much about it man.


31 Aug 2017 17:27:00
Sanchez Silva and Aguero
SAS or ASS?


31 Aug 2017 17:31:26
A lot easier to keep Sanchez quiet next to wellbeck than aguero!


31 Aug 2017 16:58:32
Absolutely gutted if couts leaves, I know it's right that he leaves now after all this now though.
We have to win trophies this year or can see clubs coming in for mane next summer and possibly can go tp juve.
Happy we got Keita for next year I think the ox will be a good signing just need to give him time
Robertson looked impressive. salah settled quickly
Overall not a bad window althought a cb would be nice.
But if no one else signs now which I think is he case we should be happy. 7 points from 9 good start to the season 2nd in the league let's get behind the boys an take another 3 points at the ethiad and on to what becomes hopefully our year!
YNWA.

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31 Aug 2017 16:58:10
Take it that's it for incomings and just Coutinho to leave now then Eds?

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{Ed001's Note - I still do not believe we are done.}

31 Aug 2017 17:14:34
Eds how the hell aren't we after a centreback we have 4 an all of them potentially injury prone an no cover is the club serious.


31 Aug 2017 17:15:05
Hope you're right Ed001! Thank you again for you hard work, best of luck the last few hours.


{Ed001's Note - cheers.}

31 Aug 2017 17:20:09
Haha don't say that ed I was just starting to accept it was done for us 😂.


31 Aug 2017 17:21:28
Ed 001 would you ever talk to macca outside this site?


31 Aug 2017 17:21:28
Ed 001 would you ever talk to macca outside this site?


{Ed001's Note - I have done in the past many times mate. He is a nice guy. But I have not spoken to him outside of the site for a long while now, not since I deleted FB. Why mate?}

31 Aug 2017 17:27:03
Who is your money on please ed001.


{Ed001's Note - surely that is obvious?}

31 Aug 2017 17:32:16
Vvd or lemar?


31 Aug 2017 17:24:06
Ed you're playing with my emotions today.


31 Aug 2017 17:53:25
Just out of intrest mate you set up a great site just wondering are you all friends or did you meet through the site.


{Ed001's Note - met through the site.}

31 Aug 2017
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Because twitter is the devil and I get too excited

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31 Aug 2017 16:54:09
Arsenal have pulled out the deal for Lemar quicker then a one night stand hahaha.

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31 Aug 2017 17:15:17
Have they definitely, might b opening for us too get him.


31 Aug 2017 17:31:08
Absolutely not at £92 million. I know money doesn't mean a lot these days but that is still a ludicrous amount.


31 Aug 2017 16:50:04
We will prob get 120 plus mill for couts. we could prob blow arsenal out the water with a bid for lemar.

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31 Aug 2017 17:24:46
Could 👍🏻 Should? 🤔.


31 Aug 2017 16:49:49
Don't get me wrong I've been caught up in the hype of the last week or so. The way salah has fit straight In and contribute and looking like he has more in the locker. The qualification and the battering of Arsenal. The emergence of taa and Gomez. The signing of Keita will turn out to be a great bit of business. Top class that guy. Ox great for depth. Im pleased. The links with lemar and vvd exciting. But if we go through another window without buying a top class CB or GK then I'm baffled. I know we had one target. But there must be some other talent out there that's ready. We obviously have the money. I hope it doesn't haunt us again. Hoping for something still 🙏🏻.

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31 Aug 2017 16:49:02
I swear youcant make this rubbish up! Arsenal have supposedly ended interest in lemar now! This day jus gets crazier by the hour. 😂.

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31 Aug 2017 17:01:07
I think it's probably enough internet for a few hours.


31 Aug 2017 17:06:35
Where have you heard this? I hope we get him.


31 Aug 2017 17:08:07
Maybe they ended it because Lemar wants us?


31 Aug 2017 16:46:50
Ed001 after all the craziness of today has finished do you think you could do a transfer review on the teams in prem. Maybe a what they have signed has been what they needed and maybe who they should/ could have signed that would have maybe made more sense.
Cheers man.

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{Ed001's Note - I will do mate.}

31 Aug 2017 17:04:51
Ed001 I think you will need to lie down in a dark room with a cold beer😉.


{Ed001's Note - not a beer mate, I don't drink. Though there have been times on here when I have felt like I should do!}

31 Aug 2017 17:15:51
Cheers ed001, should be a smashing read and I hope you can say lfc have managed to sort out there problems. 😂😂.


{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed.}

31 Aug 2017 16:34:45
Match the bid, he prefers us to arsenal!

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31 Aug 2017 16:41:59
92 million are you mad? He's probably the biggest panic buy in history. Let arsenal's pay that much. He looks like a very good player for 21. Could turn into a great player.
What we need is a centre back.


31 Aug 2017 16:43:17
Especially if pipco leaving we need cover match bid, if not I would have mahrez vision pace dribbling premiership winner could b a dark horse, I am stunned we ain't after a cb obviously we want vvd, wat bout ben gibson for cover, the squad need it.


31 Aug 2017 16:50:12
Deal off (Lemar to Arsenal) apparently lol.
This is utter madness, the crazy window with Carroll and Suarez has been dwarfed by this one - literally changing minute to minute.
This is from the Liverpool Echo by the way.


31 Aug 2017 16:59:56
Mahrez is typical panic buying. There is a reason no one has bid what LC want for him.


31 Aug 2017 16:33:33
LEMAR

Where will the KAJAGOOGOOner comeback tour start in September.

Will we be too shy shy with our bids?

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31 Aug 2017 16:42:17
That's lamahl.


31 Aug 2017 16:44:29
If we keep coutihno lemar is not needed, Barcelona tryin too sign de maria as well.


31 Aug 2017 16:45:30
That was Limahl,


31 Aug 2017 16:48:52
Limahl as it happens, while we're being pedantic.


31 Aug 2017 16:32:44
Whatever happens today let's not get too carried away. Regardless if coutinho goes or not we have a good squad with several youngsters (Arnold, Gomez and solanke) ready for first team football. Yes there are improvements to be made in goal and at centre back but Rome isn't built in a day. I would rather wait and it a top target in than settle for 2nd best. Our CL group draw helps too as we can juggle the squad ensuring the first 11 freshened up for league and cup games.

I don't get all the negativity! Yes VVD and an attacking midfielder would be great but if we don't sign them now we can go back in Jan or next summer.

Roll on Man City game!

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31 Aug 2017 16:36:58
I'm with you, Redroon. Regardless of what happens, we are a mun last season, we have a stronger squad and all positions (bar CB) are either covered or improved. We have 3 more points and 4 more goals than last season at this same point. There are too many positives out there to start having a moan about a CB coming in or not. If Cou stays, he will be dealt with internally like Suarez was and that should be that. City is next.


31 Aug 2017 16:41:43
Agree Redroon, Ox and Salah effectively fix the departure from Couts from the wing, and Mane doesn't need to Afcon this year. In midfield we have same squad as last year except Can is a year older and better, and Grujic too, plus Milner can play there now, with Keita signed up for next year.

In defense we all know CB is an issue, but Robertson gives us more options at LB, and TAA and Gomez at RB.

Yes I think VVD and Lemar would be great signings if we still get them today but we're hardly in a crisis so patience for the right players is a bit of a luxury we can afford. Rather the right player in Jan than the wrong player now if our first choices not available.


31 Aug 2017 16:55:20
We have had several transfer windows to address the defence and failed, this window unfortunately has been no different!


31 Aug 2017 17:01:47
With you there, SG but Cou was supposed to play the no 10 role hence, why Salah was signed cos Klopp wanted another winger anyway. Ox will not fill Cou's boots in CM which is why Klopp wanted both he and Lemar as Lemar is Cou's real replacement.


31 Aug 2017 16:31:35
Despite the solid signings of AOC, Robertson and Salah (plus Keita for 2018/ 19), if Coutinho goes and neither VVD or Lemar sign, do people think this has been a successful transfer window for LFC?

No stupid negative comments please. Genuine perspective and feedback please.

YNWA

ConnorsLFC.

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31 Aug 2017 16:36:49
I don't. Squad wise I think we are haven't improved. Yes we have a left back but we won't have anyone that can pull the strings or a CB that will be able to command the back line.

I still think we can push for top 4. But we won't win anything.

That's the difference between us and the likes of City and Utd.

They've bought in all the areas they need.


31 Aug 2017 16:37:31
If coutinho leaves then no, we have not replaced our best player. If he stays and continues to play for the club for another year then yes, even though a centre back should have been a priority I would still be confident of at least a top 4 finish with that strong squad.


31 Aug 2017 16:37:46
Successful in some ways but if you look at it we could have signed all those players without champions league football.


31 Aug 2017 16:38:03
Coutinho is staying, need a CB but generally a decent window 7.5 out of 10.


31 Aug 2017 16:39:37
I would say unsuccessful as we haven't strengthened 2 of our weakest positions (GK, CB) and have lost our best player.
I do however think we have been successful in the fact we have got Salah, Robertson and Solanke in for what I perceive as cheap in this seasons market.

I would rate it as a 5/ 10 if we lose couts and nobody else arrives.


31 Aug 2017 16:39:57
No centre back makes it an unsuccessful window. We knew after the tapping up saga we would not get him. Sure there are more ball playing CB's out there. Klopp and the club has messed up IMO.


31 Aug 2017 16:41:32
Tough call to be honest.


31 Aug 2017 16:43:25
If Cou goes and no replacement is found, we have screwed up, big time. If everything stays as is with Cou staying, then I am fine with it as we have a wider squad and all our positions bar CB, have been improved upon and we have more points, more goals and more clean sheets than this time last season. Time to get behind the team now and kick on. Next stop: City.


31 Aug 2017 16:46:37
I'm OK - not ecstatic but OK. Coutinho is clearly unhappy and so as long as doesn't weaken the team too much best to let him go. As a replacement Salah is almost as dangerous on the wing IMO, and Ox gives us additional depth.

Elsewhere Robertson improves us at LB and frees Milner to add cover in midfield?, plus we know Keita is coming next year. Solanke looks very good business and we'd still have cash to go back in Jan as required.

VVD would make it a good window, Lemar too would make it excellent.


31 Aug 2017 16:47:21
I think you know the answer. No. In that case it would be a shocking window mate.


31 Aug 2017 16:47:39
If Coutinho leaves and we fail to sign van Dijk and Lemar it's a failure. Particularly if Lemar signs for Arsenal. As they'll have mugged us twice, once in over paying for a mediocre footballer in the last year of his contract and twice for beating us to one of the brightest talents in European football. Personally I never want to see Coutinho in a Liverpool shirt again after what he has done so the club is being stupid in not selling and bringing someone talented who does want to play for us.


31 Aug 2017 16:50:34
Yes given that we will have made a substantial profit in our overall dealings and have a Better squad thanks to the emergence of Arnold and reemergence of Gomez.

Whilst I'm a huge Coutinho fan he starts a season well, goes missing for 3-4 months in the middle and finishes well.

I'd love sturridge to get a bit of luck and remain fit too.

At least we are making money back on players now after years of over spending and Mis management. If Klopp can learn a few lessons from last season then I think we can have a right go in the league and CL.



YNWA.


31 Aug 2017 16:52:17
I think we'll be better equipped for injuries and rotation. But star quality wise slightly down.

Just think we have torn Arsenal to shreds and still have lallana, ings and Ox to add to that squad. I think we'll be fine, but with Lemar or Vvd we'd be in dreamland.

Final wish would definitely be a centre back.


31 Aug 2017 17:01:43
Same question to Ed's 1 and 2, what are your thoughts?

Thanks

YNWA

ConnorsLFC.


{Ed001's Note - we have improved the team and squad, that is good enough for me.}

31 Aug 2017 17:05:04
Klopp was not looking for a new GK so that part is incorrect, Hailstones. We are much better than we were last season esp. if we keep Cou as the statics already bear that out. If we get a CB? great. if not? We move on and continue working on our defensive issues as even Maldini alone will not fix our issues.


31 Aug 2017 17:17:49
Thanks Ed, I agree, but would say what a window it will be if we can add VVD as well. Perhaps in January if not now?

YNWA

ConnorsLFC.


{Ed001's Note - yeah maybe I am not a fan of his so missing out doesn't bother me.}

31 Aug 2017 17:20:29
I believe that Klopp is the best manager around with the possible exception of Joachim Löw. I think that Klopp had a bit of an issue with how to break down stubborn English defense's where 11 men play behind the ball but I believe he has adjusted. If the fault is not with the manger or the system that means that the players are not up to it. They lack that critical edge that transforms you from a contender to a Champion. If no more players are signed and we lose Coutinho I would say that we get top 4 only because Arsenal is self destructing and we may get to the quarter finals of the Champions league barring serious injuries.

With VVD, Lemar, and keep Coutinho for a year assuming he can get over being paid £150K a week to kick a football around in North west england rather than Spain. I believe we can get 2nd place in the league with a possible push to Champions and into the semifinals of the Champions League. I have said Benzema would be a great addition but Mueller would be a good option just a top quality striker would be great but with so little time left if we haven't been working it I don't think it happens.


31 Aug 2017 16:29:15
Liverpool fans are nuts. 3 days ago we are on for the title. Fast forward 72 hours and Arsenal have a bid accepted for Lemar, casting us into a relegation battle.

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31 Aug 2017 16:42:16
Agreed, MK. £92m is a ridiculous fee, imo. I know we shouldn't get wrapped up in the money, but c'mon.


31 Aug 2017 16:42:49
It's not about lemar per se, it's about the fact that we went for OX instead of lemar that funded arsenal to get a much better player, coutinho is effectively gone and OX brought in as some sort of replacement which just strikes me of the Suarez for balotelli fiasco, and most of all no top quality defensive reinforcements so we have to rely on lovren at the back. Yes the overreactions are stupid, but no one should really be happy with that window. So far anyway.


31 Aug 2017 16:50:23
How does anyone know they have Bid?


31 Aug 2017 16:50:50
Here here.


31 Aug 2017 17:01:47
Got to be honest, yes Lemar looks a talented lad, but we mustn't forget this is France which is a terrible league where even Balotelli is made to look like a baller. let's not forget that Martial looked a talented lad and in all honesty he's been very disappointing for the fee Utd paid and could eventually end up paying.


31 Aug 2017 17:10:16
Kma92, Lemar only just came on the scene recently after Klopp decided to get rid of Cou after initially stating to the owners that he did not wanna sell him and the owners backed him completely (this is Ed01 talking) . Klopp also said that if he could not get VVD, he would keep what we have. Like it or not, that is the way it is and I think it is good that way cos Saints won't sell frankly, if they did, our issues defensively will not be fixed by one CB. A lot more needs to be done there and if we can't get him, we move on. Either way, we are much better than we were last season both in depth, points taken, clean sheets and goals scored. On to City.


31 Aug 2017 16:30:06
{Ed's Note - a new writer and former owner of another football site has joined the Ed crew and has posted a new article entitled, How Football Transfer Rumours are mostly Fabricated which discusses his experiences of clickbaiting

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31 Aug 2017 16:46:42
Nice read. Not at all suprising though.
May I make a suggestion ed001? Make this article required reading for everyone signing up for an account on here lol.


{Ed001's Note - glad you enjoyed and I think it should be required reading for everyone on the net personally.}

31 Aug 2017 16:51:32
Fascinating stuff, thanks for the article gents.


31 Aug 2017 16:52:17
Great article, off to the Metro as we speak! ;)


31 Aug 2017 16:52:29
Welcome to the nut house new ed.


31 Aug 2017 16:23:27
Arsenal have just offered £92m for Lemar. Can't see us beating that.

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31 Aug 2017 16:31:32
At that extortionate price, they can have him.
This window has been nothing short of ridiculous.


31 Aug 2017 16:44:40
No way, I would offer that for a player that unproven tho talented. They are desperate cos their players are off and not sticking around so they are welcome to him.


31 Aug 2017 16:22:59
Jamie Carragher tells Sly Sports News that Virgil van Dijk will be going to Liverpool later on tonight

So many conflicting reports. So many people will be wiping egg off their faces tomorrow!

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31 Aug 2017 16:33:07
Nope! Not happening unfortunately.


31 Aug 2017 16:21:16
Looks like that's thst then. Total disaster!

Arsenal getting Lemar as have bid 92M. VVD not coming. Couts leaving and not being replaced.

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31 Aug 2017 16:27:01
Get a grip love.


31 Aug 2017 16:27:27
Oh dear lord, we'll be relegated without Lemar - get a grip man!


31 Aug 2017 16:29:12
Its fine, we got the Ox, and Milner will be like a new signing.


31 Aug 2017 16:31:06
Calm down, mate. A few hours to go, lots can happen.

Pop the kettle on, watch a Woody Allen film, relax.


31 Aug 2017 16:44:57
Right so the replies to this are that you think its fine Coutinho leaving with no replacement lined up to come in? You will all be moaning when we get a few injurys and Milner starts in Midfield!

Same old story with us we always get outbid on priority signings.


31 Aug 2017 16:45:45
Who says Cou is going without a replacement? Knee-jerk much?


31 Aug 2017 16:18:33
I think we should leave the Lemar deal.

The asking price is to high for him and the only reason Arsenal have offered it is because they are desperate and clueless.

He would be a nice addition but we shouldn't go paying way over the top for him.

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31 Aug 2017 16:28:44
Literally could not agree more.


31 Aug 2017 16:47:40
Spot on, Adam and Olrish. They are panic-buying and that is what they do once they get a good hiding. Also, Sanchez and Ox are off so they have to do something. Lemar is very talented but at 92m? They are welcome to him. We'll keep Cou and deal with him in-house.


31 Aug 2017 16:18:28
Lemar would be a great signing but not looking likely especially given that arsenal have just bid 100 million euros, unless he wants to play champions league and has his heart set on Liverpool. I'd be happy with just securing VVD.

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31 Aug 2017 16:17:39
Arsenal have apparently bid £92 million for Lamar surly this will end any interest we had in the player as apart from Messi and the golden Adonis I honestly don't think any player in world football is worth over £100 million crazy prices been brandished and paid for good but not world class players imo .

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31 Aug 2017 16:24:27
Apart from coutinho who you'd probably wanna keep if Barcelona only offered £100m?


31 Aug 2017 16:17:20
Numbers guy as sporting director ie edwards will more than likely be proved to have been folly. even the numbers man who instigated moneyball in baseball needed the experienced general manager to implement his theory hope im wrong mind.

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31 Aug 2017 16:16:06
If we don't sign anyone else and pipco leaves how do people feel about that.

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31 Aug 2017 16:25:14
We have proved we can cope without him this season.

He has lost a lot of respect for the way he has lied and deceived the club he claims he will always love.

Not even Suarez or Torres tried forcing their way out.


31 Aug 2017 16:25:59
Like we've missed a trick - real potential for us to move forward with one or two other signings before the window closes - if we don't we'll still be looking strong but it will smack of an opportunity missed. Would still fancy us to do well this season though.


31 Aug 2017 16:33:13
"Not even Suarez or Torres tried forcing their way out. "

do you read what you're typing adamski or just make up your own opinions and pass them of as truth?


31 Aug 2017 16:33:45
Actually, I thought that both Suarez and Torres did force their way out.


31 Aug 2017 16:44:35
Yes they did with Suarez at one point considering asking us to court.


31 Aug 2017 17:00:32
I don't remember them handing in transfer requests and faking back injuries.


31 Aug 2017 16:15:38
Ed001

Are we currently staring down the barrel of coutinho leaving and us missing out on lemar, leaving us without a replacement for couts?

Cheers

Adelaide Red.

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{Ed001's Note - until deals are signed and medicals done etc, we are always staring down that barrel.}

31 Aug 2017 16:22:51
Thanks for the reply mate, right onto it as always.

Subjectively, would you say we're likely to match/ surpass arsenal's bid for lemar?

Cheers.


{Ed001's Note - I have no idea, sorry.}

31 Aug 2017 16:23:39
Are there any alternatives to Lemar ed?


{Ed001's Note - I don't know sorry.}

31 Aug 2017 16:15:03
Two updates from Sky - Arsenal have offered 100 million euros for Lemar (to which it was stated by a reporter that Liverpool would not be going back in to match the bid) and Origi is going to Wolfsburg (they will pay his wages while on loan for a year as well as a undisclosed loan fee) . Good football for Origi and sadness where Lemar is concerned, but if Coutinho is staying (as seems to be the case) it might not be so bad. Don't like to see Lemar brought to Arsenal (or City linked with Sanchez) but I do like the Ox business so not too bad a window for me. Moving on Sakho and Markovic by the end of the day would be acceptable business for me but I still have half a hope we take home one more player today.

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31 Aug 2017 16:13:43
According to sky sports arsenal have bid £92 million for Lemar and Liverpool haven't got any intention of going back in for him. VVD looking unlikely too as Southampton not still not willing to sell. Doesn't look like anything major is going to happen today fellas.

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31 Aug 2017 16:22:32
Great we get Chamberlain and they get Lemar. Just waiting for the news to say Coutinho is off to really ruin my day.


31 Aug 2017 16:13:37
As ecstatic as I would be with further incomings, especially VVD, I feel the shutters have come down.

After the euphoria of the beginning of the week, with the aftermath of Arsenal and Keita signing, it now feels a bit like the day after Boxing Day! Whilst I am ok with the signing of the Ox, I don't see him being anymore than a squad player, albeit a good one.

Taking stock, I've not been excited about us going forward since the days of Barnes, Beardsley and Aldo. Unfortunately, I've not watched us defensively with such trepidation since the days of Kvarme and before that Piechnik. We are so reliant on keeping Lovren and Matip fit and healthy, as there is no back up. I feel If we have aspirations of challenging on 4 fronts that won't be enough and our shenanigans of June and the debacle of VVD, I fear, will come back to haunt us.

All that said, if we do pull off the signing of VVD no one will be more ecstatic than me.7 hours to go.

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31 Aug 2017 16:13:32
Arsenal have offered £92 million for Lemar. I guess we have to match it now or walk away.

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31 Aug 2017 16:13:12
According to sky sports Arsenal have offered £92 million for Thomas Lemar. Can't see us offering that much for him.

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31 Aug 2017 16:12:15
Quite possibly a stupid question but is it even physically possible for us to be negotiating two potential Club record deals at the same time? Surely the top brass, medical staff etc can only work on one deal at a time given the complexity of transfers these days and the volume of money involved? Add in the fact that both potential players are in different countries?!

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31 Aug 2017 16:09:52
Arsenal have £92 million deal accepted for lemar. If we want him time to put our money down especially if coutinho is going.

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31 Aug 2017 16:08:41
£92 Million by Arsenal for Lemar. Oh dear lord.

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31 Aug 2017 16:14:51
Replacement for Sanchez.


31 Aug 2017 16:16:23
We won't match that price. He will go to Arsenal. Maybe we really won't sell Coutinho unless we get someone else in, doubt he will stay though.

Baz.


31 Aug 2017 16:18:09
Any truth in this, eds? Have you heard of any developments?


{Ed001's Note - I have no idea sorry. Not heard anything of this and it seems extremely unlikely to me but this window has been mad so.....}

31 Aug 2017 16:34:19
Argh! I really don't think I can stand it if Arsenal (! ) beat us to Lemar! I don't know how you eds manage to make it through these transfer windows alive haha. Your time and work are much appreciated :)


31 Aug 2017 16:08:39
Apparently arsenal have bid €100m or £92m for lemar it would seem we may lose out on his services 😭

Unless we're willing to match that.

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31 Aug 2017 16:15:57
Or he turns them down like AOC did Chelsea, player doesn't have to move cos the club agree a fee.


31 Aug 2017 16:17:40
We won't match that price. We will sell Coutinho and use the Ox/ Kent and Can until Keita comes in next season.

Baz.


31 Aug 2017 16:08:17
Jus been reported on ssn that Arsenal have bid £92 mil for Lemar and that Monaco are softening on there stance he is not for sale so there u go off to Arsenal he goes another high profile target gone an we are stuck with the ox.

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31 Aug 2017 16:19:36
"Stuck with the Ox". Why can fans never support players. We are LFC. The lads hasn't kicked a ball for us yet and people already on his back. I think he will prove an astute signing for us.

Baz.


31 Aug 2017 16:02:18
According to sky sports news we have agreed a deal for both vvd and lemar. is it true eds?

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{Ed001's Note - are you sure SSN have said that?}

31 Aug 2017 16:16:39
Think your watching a different SSN here Livebird31 - Please share what tv channel this is on because its not on my sky sports news.


31 Aug 2017 16:21:58
No they haven't.


31 Aug 2017 16:01:27
What time does the domestic transfer window shut?

Heard it shuts at 1am? Does this mean we can buy anyone in the english leagues right up until 1am?

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{Ed001's Note - 11pm BST.}

31 Aug 2017 15:58:54
Ok I thought I would test myself to see how long I could leave my phone and Sly sports alone.

Basically I lasted roughly 4 minutes.

Seriously how sad am I?

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31 Aug 2017 16:12:49
I've sent the kids upstairs all day that's sad and very bad parenting. I have fed them chocolates and crisps to busy to cook. I've booked a day off for this😁😁😁😁😁😁.


31 Aug 2017 16:12:56
Your like most mate, wouldn't call it sad lol.


31 Aug 2017 16:15:17
Same, i've cancelled all my work jobs today.
If we don't sign anyone, next week work load will be hard 😂.


31 Aug 2017 15:42:44
Just seen a video of the ox saying he had always wanted to be like SG. TOUCH WOOD.

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31 Aug 2017 15:52:11
I suspect most Liverpool supporters have always wanted to be like SG.


31 Aug 2017 15:58:02
Retired from playing football?


{Ed001's Note - nice to know Ox is already planning for the future and wants to manage the youth team.}

31 Aug 2017 15:59:56
the United fans are going to have a right laugh on this page today.


31 Aug 2017 15:39:52
Read a few places that VVD is on his wat to Liverpool. I beleive everything I read. Now you can imagine what transfer window was like.

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31 Aug 2017 16:01:25
If it's from a guy called Graham Carey on Twitter who claims he works for the BBC or his friend Gareth Cambridge who claims to work for ESPN and are "updating" every few minutes, they're 100% fake. Clearly they have no lives/ jobs/ women to entertain them - pathetic really.


31 Aug 2017 16:11:55
I feel sorry for you. :D.


31 Aug 2017 15:36:36
Ed01

Do you still expect Phil to move to Barca? I don't think we are getting a replacemt. In that case what happens to his future?

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{Ed001's Note - I still think he is going yes. Klopp wants rid.}

31 Aug 2017 15:41:18
Ed1 do you still think lemar will get done.


{Ed001's Note - I haven't heard anything to say the club have given up hope on him, so I am still hanging on to the hope the deal will get done.}

31 Aug 2017 15:41:34
Interesting! If so I expect us to sign Lemar before the clock runs out! We could have signed any Central playmaker with that money by now!


31 Aug 2017 15:54:21
Lemar would have to be done in next couple of hrs as he is playing for France at 7-45 and can't see him being aloud to get his future sorted after 6 pm when he's gearing up for a match tonight. Unless there is time after the game!


31 Aug 2017 15:54:40
Cheers ed 1 thanks for reply while your in an answering mood is the vvd completely dead? Thanks.


{Ed001's Note - not until the window shuts and then it is always possible in January. It is all in Southampton's hands.}

31 Aug 2017 16:02:38
If we don't sign lemar will we still sell Phil ed001?


{Ed001's Note - I believe he is gone regardless.}

31 Aug 2017 16:03:36
Not much point signing him after the clock runs out is there.


31 Aug 2017 16:12:55
Thank u ed1 you answered it without answering 😂😂.


31 Aug 2017 16:18:18
Thanks eds001.


31 Aug 2017 15:24:30
Hope to god we can buy a centre half today any news.

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31 Aug 2017 15:14:49
Looks like we're still chasing Lemar.
Should be pushing for a CB in these last few hours not Lemar, especially if Philly is staying.

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31 aug 2017 15:40:33
don't think phil is staying, will be shocked if he does.


31 Aug 2017 15:12:53
Luckily Edward's isn't involved in the bloodstock business. Imagine sending someone out to buy a couple of thoroughbred's and he comes back with an Ox!

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31 Aug 2017 15:38:32
Depends what you want. If you want something o show off and look flashy, get a thoroughbred. If you want something to pull a cart, Ox every time.


31 Aug 2017 15:52:25
Whatever your views, an Ox beats a Donkey every time, and we've had a few donkeys in the past.


31 Aug 2017 15:10:16
Origi to Wolfsburg confirmed season long loan.

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31 Aug 2017 15:13:32
Hope he does well!
Needs games/ goals/ confidence.
Good luck Divock!


31 Aug 2017 15:14:33
Great move the the lad. Good team in a good league and will give him the chance to shine.

It really is all or bust now for him as far as his Liverpool career goes.


31 Aug 2017 15:20:29
Seems Klopp has a lot of faith in Solanke. No wonder the kid jumped at the chance to join LFC. Will get a decent number of games now.
Don't see a way back for Origi unless he plays a blinder at Wolfsburg.


31 Aug 2017 16:03:00
I think Origi just needs to be more consistent and use his assets, big guy and quick as well. He won't ever be big goalscorer but can be a very useful player for a good club.


31 Aug 2017 14:59:24
I know it kind of ruins the suspense of the day but I've sat here refreshing about 6 different sites for the last 6 hours now and I should probably do something productive - in your opinions, oh wise ones - VVD / Lemar / someone unmentioned? Are we signing anyone else today?

As for Coutts, fantastic player but the 140/ 150m figure being touted around is superb business all round and we've shown we have enough without him to embarrass teams - whether we have enough depth remains to be seen with all the competitions, but let's hope Lemar fills that potential void!

It's been a decent window for us but it goes without saying that failing to bring in a CB could prove costly and stall our advances on the league and Europe. It does seem that Jurgen and Co can work wonders with players but it's a constant sticking point that certainly needs addressing - whether that be the CB personal or the GK, or both.

I know I'm not alone in thinking Ward should be given a decent crack at the no.1 spot. Seems commanding, physical, vocal and clearly has ability. Is he likely to be loaned out again or is there a plan in place to test his ability?

Thanks in advance.

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31 Aug 2017 15:13:19
I agree with you about Ward.


31 Aug 2017 14:58:46
Ed001 i know this may be a very long term idea, but you should really consider a live radio station to run in parallel with the site. Your listener figures would be exceptionally high. I appreciate that for the sake of the Eds identities it might be difficult though.

Just imagine;

Ed001's morning glory
Ed025 Drive
Sparky and Ed002 DJ special

Features such as 'the Macca transfer roundup', 'the Benny rant', and 'Harrys heads gone'!

You guys have solid info and wicked humour. It would take off and you'd end up on more money than Grimshaw or Alan Brazil!

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{Ed001's Note - trouble is, give Harry an hour slot and he would turn it into an 18 hour rant about Kovacic not being signed.....}

31 Aug 2017 15:10:09
You should have signed him 3 years ago to avoid this 😄.


31 Aug 2017 15:14:32
Who's Kovacic again Ed? 😁.


31 Aug 2017 15:26:39
Kovacic is one of those African boys who run very fast, and without brains. 😉.


31 Aug 2017 15:35:01
Kovacic is ❤️.


31 Aug 2017 15:55:01
Alan Brazil and talkshite are literally the lowest common denominator when it comes to football talk.

Would love an ed001 podcast though.


31 Aug 2017 14:57:10
If VVD doesn't come off would people be placated by Johnny Evans? WBA have interest in Sahko, both clubs looking to move on a defender for slightly more than people are willing to pay, Eds, do you know if Liverpool have shown any interest in Evans?

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{Ed001's Note - none.}

31 Aug 2017 15:17:12
Thanks Ed001.


{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

31 Aug 2017 14:53:25
I am just wondering whether we have dropped our interest in Lemar. News on Skysports saying that we are not going to battle Arsenal.

Is there any truth in this?

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31 Aug 2017 15:03:27
Too bloody right. Lemar is not worth anything near the prices being reported after only one good season.

It'll be an interesting test of character to see if he ends up at the Emirates. For me it would signal a huge lack of ambition because he'd be trading Champions League football for Europa League.


31 Aug 2017 15:05:39
Arsenal will put a bid closer to £95mill and we have no intention to outbid it!


31 Aug 2017 15:05:40
I think his price is bordering ridiculous. Again he's not needed if we keep coutinho. If coutinho goes then it won't look good.


31 Aug 2017 15:05:52
Doubt that tbh. But maybe they will outbid us. Could be a battle of the wallets.


31 Aug 2017 14:43:28
Just been said on Sky that Liverpool won't rival Arsenal for Lemar.

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31 Aug 2017 14:52:02
If coutinho stays then it doesn't matter where lemar ends up. Key words >coutinho stays.
Again we need a centre back. Far more important.


31 Aug 2017 14:53:11
Haha sky haven't clue, we've made a club record in the region of £70 mil but we aren't going to rival Arsenal? Haha good one sky.


31 Aug 2017 16:05:20
Is that as in don't want to get into a bidding war or can't, first wouldn't surprise me but I call BS if it is the second.


31 Aug 2017 14:38:24
LFC have submitted an offer of over £80 mill for VVD.

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31 Aug 2017 14:45:04
Cant find anything on it, itk info?


31 Aug 2017 14:49:33
According to who?


31 Aug 2017 14:50:16
Ok I don't doubt you mate, but as it been accepted?


31 Aug 2017 14:37:54
Ex liverpool player david thompson claiming VVD is done can't take this any longer my heart can't take this sh*t any longer eds.

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31 Aug 2017 14:48:21
Didn't he also say we had signed Sanchez 3 years ago? Ex-players are hardly trustworthy sources. Don't see VVD going anywhere this window.


31 Aug 2017 14:58:18
Carragher said it as well. Why are they torturing us! lol.


31 Aug 2017 15:04:33
Ye mate me neither cue all the unhappy fans an eds head to be battered come 11pm :-)


31 Aug 2017 15:05:24
Indian, that was phil thompson mate. Can't blame him for that though, liverpool and Barcelona had agreed a deal.


31 Aug 2017 15:16:21
When a deal's done, it means its done. How can it be done if one of the three parties (player, seller, buyer) have not come to a mutual agreement? Lots of ITKs made the same mistake.


31 Aug 2017 15:17:47
David Thompson has not posted anything about vvd. Stop lying please.


31 Aug 2017 15:48:07
Whos lying type in david thompson VVD why would i lie you clown?


31 Aug 2017 16:06:52
Also isn't he mates with Carra so is likley one is repeating the other rather than two sources and one confirming the other.


31 Aug 2017 14:35:58
Seems a bit of a damp squib of a day, all talk and not much action. Has anyone eds or reds have any reliable sources to help us out and think we will get any more over the line today?

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31 Aug 2017 14:32:31
Carra on SSN was disappointed at being cut off to announce big that a loan approach for Whilshire from Birmingham.

Carra stated that Liverpool buying VVD would be big , said with a coy smile.

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31 Aug 2017 14:14:25
Eds,


Last day of crazy season! Do you think our business is done in regards to players coming in?

Thanks for your info this summer and thanks to macca too! I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say we really appreciate your work!

Jon.

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{Ed001's Note - no.}

31 Aug 2017 14:49:04
Still expect VVD or Lemar to sign Ed001? Quite the optimist you are.


31 Aug 2017 14:51:43
This sneaky suspicion Ed01 knows more than he is letting on.


31 Aug 2017 14:59:44
Who gave the thumbs down? He didn't say anything only a thanks really.


31 Aug 2017 14:14:26
Anyone know what the go is with Allan, he had work permit issues last season IIRC where these resolved?

apologies if this has been addressed recently but searching for him just brings up loads of lallana posts.

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31 Aug 2017 14:37:09
He doesn't have "Work permit issues" he just doesn't have a work permit, nor will he be able to get one any time soon.

Hence why he was loaned out.

I don't really see how it can work for him as a Liverpool player unless we decide he is worth a massive salary or he starts getting into the Brazil team.


31 Aug 2017 14:43:13
I remember a report, think it was the ECHO, but apparently Allen is on his way to a team in portugal on loan. Not sure which team but a loan is very much expected as he cannot play for us, for obvious reasons. Hopefully this is sorted out soon, otherwise the slim chance of getting a word permit will be zero if he stays with us.


31 Aug 2017 14:46:59
Ed002 answered this about a month ago but my memory of the answer is hazed.

I believe he still doesn't qualify for a work permit, but if he has a good loan in Europe and plays a lot of first team football we may be able to put forward an special talent case.

Either way, he won't be playing for us this season. Not unless we give him a massive pay rise just to make him meet the work permit criteria!


31 Aug 2017 15:22:58
Do you know what the criteria is MK?

he played 16 times for Hertha last season so youd think we would be able to make a case for him next season at least if he continues to progress but i obviously don't know what else is involved.


31 Aug 2017 16:08:48
One of the Eds answered the other day that he is very unlikely to get one and the plan is to sell.


31 Aug 2017 14:12:46
Is Koulibaly worth revisiting as an option or definitely a non starter?

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31 Aug 2017 14:20:59
Napoli won't sell this late in the window. And the price would be prohibitive.


31 Aug 2017 14:27:31
IB would he be more expensive than VVD? He would probably be at least as good.


31 Aug 2017 14:37:02
Napoli don't have time to find a replacement and are notoriously difficult to deal with.
Admit it, failure to sign VVD means Klopp screwed up big time. We could not find a Coutinho replacement and Lovren will continue to start on a regular basis.


31 Aug 2017 16:09:59
How would he be more expensive than VVD when 1 we don't have a price for VVD and 2 Soton don't want to sell?


31 Aug 2017 14:11:32
Renato Sanches taking two steps back to go one forward or overrated?

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31 Aug 2017 14:25:42
For Swansea. Unbelievable signing.
the place will be completely buzzing and more than anything the fans will be happy. That's what it's all about.


31 Aug 2017 14:33:06
Good move by the kid. He knows and is obviously comfortable with the manager and he will get a lot of game time till kick start his career again. I like when young players make decisions like this. Shows maturity over ego. I hope it pays off for him.


31 Aug 2017 14:56:31
Page?!


31 Aug 2017 14:11:31
It might sound crazy but how would people feel about Jonny Evans to Liverpool?

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31 Aug 2017 14:26:25
No United players wanted here.


31 Aug 2017 14:35:24
Two footed Centre back comfortable with the ball at his feet. Id take him in a heartbeat. Not as good as Van Dijk but certainly still good and better than Lovren. Couldn't care less if he played for United before.


31 Aug 2017 14:39:45
Why would you want a manc?


{Ed001's Note - why would you care who he played for before? Only thing that matters is how they perform in a Liverpool shirt.}

31 Aug 2017 14:47:51
Paul Ince?

Once they pull on a red shirt you support them.


31 Aug 2017 14:48:09
Paul Ince?


31 Aug 2017 14:48:32
Given our situation with CB would it not st least be a sensible option? VVD and Evans might work pretty well.


31 Aug 2017 15:01:41
He plays for wba?


31 Aug 2017 15:48:04
I wouldn't want him as I don't think he is that good, don't care who he played for before that's all irrelevent.


31 Aug 2017 14:08:38
Think that's us done in all honesty. Can't see anymore incoming this window. 2 or 3 maybe to go on loan (Sakho permanent if we can find a middle ground fee with someone) but that is likely to be it.
So possibly no CB coming in this window, shame!

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31 Aug 2017 14:19:28
Means Coutinho stays. James Pearce has once again reiterated that he is not going anywhere. Probably because Lemar is now out of reach and VVD will not be let go by Saints.
Bit disappointing window all in all. CB should have been a priority and OX was a pointless signing imo. Salah is the only signing that's going to have a major impact on the first team. Robertson may need some time to get going and Solanke is still a kid.


31 Aug 2017 14:41:45
"CB should have been a priority" Before we signed Robertson and before Moreno remembered how to defend everyone was on about signing a LB and RB.

And this windows was not disappointing at all. Salah came in and so far it looks like he settled in fairly well. Robertson is a great addition and don't forget Solanke. Solanke impressed me in preseason and in the World cup. He looks really really well and didn't cost a thing. Ox will be a settle in and he will get better then he is now.

And I am happy if Lemar sings but i am also happy if we can keep countinho. Yes he will be pissed the move didn't happen but i think the media is overplaying the story a little.


31 Aug 2017 14:49:13
James pearce only knows what the club want him to know.


31 Aug 2017 14:08:37
Forget all these irrelevant and unimportant posts. The most important thing that needs to be discussed right now, is the Ox's haircut silly enough for LFC or does it just pass as normal? I'm on the fence with this one.

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31 Aug 2017 14:19:48
I thought that thing on his head was a silly hat.


31 Aug 2017 14:21:18
Known as an alpaca cut in the trade.


31 Aug 2017 14:22:55
It's too conservative lol.


31 Aug 2017 14:34:38
Needs another colour or 2 to really fit in.


31 Aug 2017 14:43:24
Maybe a blonde line for the link up with mane? Or he could try this mess that firmino had last year with the ponytail. That was something special. :D.


31 Aug 2017 14:08:29
Swansea have just landed Sanches on loan. That should stop any questions about us loaning him now even though that rumour seemed to fade out.

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31 Aug 2017 14:19:55
Renato Sanches has now found his level.


31 Aug 2017 14:03:31
Thanks to all the Eds and Macca for their insights and information, it's greatly appreciated.

On a slightly different vien, if a player refuses to move to a Club even if their club has accepted an offer, where does that leave the situation? I assume the player can just sit there, take their wages and let their contract run down once they stay training and make themselves available for selection?

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{Ed001's Note - yes.}

31 Aug 2017 14:18:08
Thank you.

It's great to see us involved with top level players on the final day of the window.

On a completely related note, I met Peter Moores at the Hoffenheim match; he came across extremely well, genuine towards his affection for the Club and willingness to push the Club onwards.


31 Aug 2017 13:54:54
I'm hearing that VVD has refused to play for Soton again and they have refused to sell him.

This has resulted in him agreeing to film a season of "The Bachelor" on Dutch television which should be completed by December.

At that point he will have to decide whether to stay with the winner of the show and live the life of a minor celebrity or return to playing football.

Can't reveal my sauces sorry.

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31 Aug 2017 14:11:33
Why can’t you reveal your sauces? BBQ is my favorite.


31 Aug 2017 14:41:10
Worcestshire for me please.


31 Aug 2017 11:59:18
Hi ed002,

Any chance of an hourly podcast. With a half hourly podcast in the last 2 hours and one every 5 mins in the last half hour.

Thanking you in advance.

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31 Aug 2017 13:44:30
Apparently arsenal are back in for lemar. I cannot see the lad choosing that sinking ship with no champions league football. Then again he may prefer London 😂 jokes aside what are we doing with Monaco? Are with submitting another bid organised messing about until arsenal pay what they want?
I personally just want a centre based in. Our weakest position and we've put all of our chips into can dijk who looks extremely unlikely.

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31 Aug 2017 13:53:21
^^multiple spelling errors and wrong words.
Arsenal i suspect will pay close to 90 million. They've both the potential Sanchez money and ox's. If we're not going to pay up then we should concentrate on baby dijk or a centre back from somewhere in the world that's quality 🤔.


31 Aug 2017 13:53:43
He was going there only for Arsenal not to cough up enough cash and now they realize they will loose both players and FANS! Arsenal need to spend heavy and I expect after loosing AOX to us they will stump up cash for Lemar. I can't believe we are not looking at other possible Playmakers. Kovacic, Brandt, anyone?


31 Aug 2017 13:55:25
Yep. Sanchez to Man City and then Lemar to Arsenal, guaranteed to be a starter at Arsenal!

pray for VVD!


31 Aug 2017 13:58:22
Thing is Big Al, we still face losing Coutinho if rumour is correct so both Lemar and a centre back are priorities, since VVD is highly unlikely we should be looking elsewhere.


31 Aug 2017 14:04:40
We didn't mess about with ox funnily enough, that was done pretty quickly. Salah took a while and the fee was around the same price, hmmm. We seem to be fronting on some transfers like we've done in the past. Show that we're interested in the actual top quality players but have no intentions of actually pulling of the deal. Maybe I'm wrong, but it does seem that way.


31 Aug 2017 14:07:10
Autocorrect has hit you hard with this 😂.


31 Aug 2017 14:18:24
This is a mess which ever way you look at it. There is no way back for Coutinho that I can see (after the way he has acted) . We haven't replaced him in the squad and we have dithered over Lemar and probably lost out on a genuinely top class talent while we tripped over ourselves to sign a very mediocre Arsenal bench warmer. Way to balls up the transfer window. One step forward with Keita and a million back by failing to deal with Coutinho and sign a replacement then cocking up van Dijk.


31 Aug 2017 14:19:01
Red Phil I know. You'd think I was drunk typing.


31 Aug 2017 14:20:08
Lemar had no issues with wanting to join a sinking ship in the EL the first time so what stops him from wanting to do that now esp. if they have offered some serious dough for him now?


31 Aug 2017 14:30:39
Kman,

Apart from the record fee we have just shelled out for Naby Keita or are you conveniently forgetting that one to help make your point? 🤔.


31 Aug 2017 13:36:47
Coutinho isn't going anywhere. FSG don't sell there star players, have a look at there baseball team.

Still hopeful of VVD but Lemar looks to be off now. May be one surprise bid that nobody expected coming!

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31 Aug 2017 13:58:56
Torres? Suarez? Sterling to a lesser extent.


31 Aug 2017 14:01:39
Coutinho could be well on his way. Van dijk and lemar both at this stage look unlikely. If lemar goes to arsenal we helped funded it via buying ox. It could be an embarrassing window for us because the quality we've bought will be exposed this season as good or not good enough and I expect the latter. Salah and solanke are two good buys. I've no comment on the rest. Feelings were made clear.


31 Aug 2017 14:13:34
still believe Coutinho is going.


31 Aug 2017 13:36:08
Don't shoot the messenger and I'm not claiming to be in the know, but a friend of a friend whose ma is married to this friend's friend, whose the grandma of my friends friend friend claims he saw Macca in a blacked out car, heading towards JL Airport, with a packet of biscuits and a black briefcase . could be big news man! Really big!

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31 Aug 2017 14:13:15
I call bs. Macca is a god and like all gods has never been seen and never will! Haha.


31 Aug 2017 14:21:43
M06, so when should we load our pieces for the shoot-down then?


31 Aug 2017 13:35:27
Greame Beakcroft stating we are all done for today after AOC.
Always the bearer of bad news but not normally far off the mark.

Reasons are Monaco and Southampton do not want to sell, fingers crossed he's wrong but wouldn't be surprised if we switch the lights off at 5.30 pm and go home.

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31 Aug 2017 13:43:03
Yea I agree there are only two clubs in Europe with potential CB and Playmaker. Well done Liverpool FC!


31 Aug 2017 14:06:20
No alternatives, and if coutinho is gone this has been a shambles of a transfer window. Both incoming and outgoings. A lot has to change from now until the end of the window if it's to be a good one.


31 Aug 2017 14:22:35
If we sold Cou w/ o a replacement then indeed, it has been a poor window.


31 Aug 2017 13:34:45
Guillem Balague seems to think that Wenger will be in for Lemar if Sanchez leaves Arsenal.
I wonder why on earth would Lemar give up Champions League football to go to a club like Arsenal who are in total disarray and in the Europey Cup? .

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31 Aug 2017 13:44:17
The only reason he is not at Arsenal, is they did not cough up enough money! He was always going to Arsenal!


31 Aug 2017 13:53:39
We can't defend: That's your opinion.
My opinion and point is that joining Arsenal over Liverpool would seem to be aiming low.


31 Aug 2017 13:33:59
I'm at work going mad trying to not check for transfers lol. Macca if you're around, please help me with any insightful info you may have. And thanks everyone for making the transfer window enjoyable. YNWA.

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31 Aug 2017 13:30:22
Arsenal back in for lemar and confident they can get him!

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31 Aug 2017 13:37:37
Have to keep Coutinho now. If we sell him and Ox is his replacement, it's as bad as balotelli for suarez.


31 Aug 2017 14:00:35
I have been saying that all along Fowler9. Coutinho out and Oxlade in, is as poor as it gets.


31 Aug 2017
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, I can't wait, that's clearly VVD in the back.

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31 Aug 2017 13:25:53
This may sound completely stupid but sky sports are reporting Van Dijk has left the Southampton training ground in a blacked out car.

Do you think that this is in any way related to Van Dijk going to Liverpool or is it some sly scheme by Sky Sports to get some more bets in?

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31 Aug 2017 13:38:07
Means nothing at this stage imo.

No bid in. As it stands they say.


31 Aug 2017 13:39:27
It's is own Mercedes G wagon! He was in the back more then likely crying cus the move he wanted ain't happening sadly.


31 Aug 2017 13:09:49
Reports coming out that Van Dijk has been seen leaving the Southampton training ground in the back of a blacked out car?

My question is simply this. how can you see someone in the back of a blacked out car!? It is blacked out, meaning you are not supposed to see in. It could be anyone.

Classic Sky Sports reporting. Will release any story if it gets people to place bets on their website. Spread news that goes against what they actually know or believe will happen.

What a world we live in.

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31 Aug 2017 13:22:01
going to for a maccies drive thru.


31 Aug 2017 13:24:45
It was his car. so assume going home from training. He has held further discussions with Saints today - maybe they went well? if not I'm sure we will be in touch. But very time poor at the moment.

End of the day VVD want a WC place for Holland therefore he will have to play at some point and the Saints know this!


31 Aug 2017 13:26:11
It was his own car he left in.


31 Aug 2017 13:37:40
Why wasn't he driving his own car?


31 Aug 2017 13:07:34
Eds, various reporters stating LFC incoming business is done. Wouldn't surprise me if there was a final shock but just wondering what you are hearing?
10 hours to go - keep it up!

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{Ed001's Note - nothing has changed, they are just assuming and could well have got their guess correct, but it is just a guess. The club still want to bring in more but it is not easy.}

31 Aug 2017 13:03:29
Sly Sport report:

"Virgil Van Dijk has left the Southampton training ground in the back of a blacked out car.
Where's he off too? "

Question: If the car was blacked out, how do they know it was a car? It could have been a plane leaving Bournemouth airport for Liverpool for all they know.

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31 Aug 2017 13:12:06
Was it a non-standard blacked out car?


31 Aug 2017 13:16:56
Has to be a Harley Davidson.


31 Aug 2017 13:17:00
Couldn't tell Ron. It was blacked out.


31 Aug 2017 13:21:52
AHAHAHA! Ron lol!


31 Aug 2017 13:26:33
Ah Virgil seen going into a blacked out car. The anonymity factor already down the toilet.


31 Aug 2017 13:01:30
SlySports reporting that VVD was seen leaving training early in the back of a black out van. Anything to be read in to this?

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31 Aug 2017 13:07:37
Maybe to go home after the morning training session?


31 Aug 2017 13:09:34
It wasn't a silver mercedes van was it?


31 Aug 2017 13:25:21
It's just interesting that he was sitting in the back of his own car.


31 Aug 2017 12:58:09
BREAKING: Coutinho fails Barcelona medical with back injury and bad case of man flu.

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31 Aug 2017 13:09:12
Jet lag induced stress.


31 Aug 2017 13:26:10
It's ok. His Brazilian doctor is flying in to smooth things over.

" Hello everybody, I'm Doctor Nick" "Hi Doctor Nick! " (Think the Simpsons 😁)


31 aug 2017 12:56:37
ok good people. away from the transfer hustle, who do you think will be the epl signing of the season

contenders;
lukaku
salah
morata
bakayoko
chicharito
lacazette
ox
matic
walker
sigurdsson.

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31 Aug 2017 13:07:47
Matic, Salah, Morata all look class but Krychowiak could be the best of them all.


31 Aug 2017 13:08:03
As much as I hope they don't I think Matic will win United the title so him.


31 Aug 2017 13:11:25
Value wise could be chicharito. Think Matic is great business, allows pogba more freedom. But, with a hint of bias, how can it not be Salah! Gives us pace, width and an additional runner in behind!

No point asking this question next year. It will obviously be keita.


31 Aug 2017 13:14:05
Can't recall who stated on here adamantly that Our very own Robertson is the signing of the season 🤔🙄.


31 aug 2017 13:33:42
i think matic too.


31 Aug 2017 12:56:30
Sky sports just said VVD leaves training ground in a blacked out car. Are they toying with us or is this a glimmer of hope? Guess he could just be going home 😂.

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31 Aug 2017 12:55:45
So VVD is on his way. somewhere!
Who knows where?
Who thinks it's us?

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31 Aug 2017 12:55:04
VVD enroute!?!

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31 aug 2017 12:52:30
eds i just want to say hi. i am free at work today. had a very large breakfast, hope you did. i am in a good mood and i have a good feeling as we close the curtain to the summer madness.

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31 Aug 2017 12:43:37
Just a theory but I think that the club will just bite the bullet and pay Monaco whatever they want for Lemar later today and then let Coutinho go.

Klopp doesn't want Coutinho anymore and Monaco look like they are lining up a potential replacement.

I expect Lemar to be finalised much later today.

As far as VVD goes I think that ship has sailed. Soton won't budge now and he'll just have to get over it and play for them if he wants to play for Holland any time over the next year or so. He'll get his move somewhere next year.

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31 Aug 2017 12:59:07
I have to agree. We haven't even approached them. I can't see them budging today at all, we are honestly waiting for them to give in, and i don't think they are going to.


31 Aug 2017 12:43:09
Stump half of the potential money for Daxler and PSG will drive him to Anfield. He could play anywhere across the midfiled and front three.

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31 Aug 2017 12:54:31
Really not needed though. either a quality CB today or no one.

probably need to look at clearing out a couple of players also.


31 Aug 2017 13:01:26
Klopp knows more about Draxler than you do Harry so if he is not interested in him, does that not tell you anything at all?


31 Aug 2017 13:12:29
LIke He is in full knowledge on Lemar! He listens to his scouts and coaches! Daxler is a very good player mate!


{Ed001's Note - I am sure he would have watched plenty of footage, it was made available to him to watch.}

31 Aug 2017 14:25:25
A good player with a poor attitude. There, fixed it for ya.


31 Aug 2017 12:33:53
Mahrez going somewhere but Leicester know nothing about it,

God i hope its not us, something we do seem to do.

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31 Aug 2017 12:39:34
Wouldn't be the worst move in the world as a Couts replacement I guess.

However, maybe Mahrez is off to Monaco and We're getting Lemar!?

Or neither.


31 Aug 2017 12:43:58
Agree wouldn't be a bad signing, Just hope its not being done the way it seems.


31 Aug 2017 13:02:26
Where is he going to play? Out wide? We are well fournished there. In the no. 10 role? He is not a no. 10 so again, where will he play?


31 Aug 2017 12:24:43
Welcome to lfc alex oxlade Chamberlain now will those lfc fans who seem to slate players on here before they sign get of the lads back and give him a chance p. s. thanks for all your hard work ed, s and macca let's just hope we get lemar and a cb now good times my fellow Liverpool fans.

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31 Aug 2017 12:24:21
Welcome to LFC, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain!

Let's all set aside our differences of opinion now and back the lad, because he is now one of us. YNWA.

Really excited for this signing!

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31 Aug 2017 12:43:50
I'm with that, MK. I will never root for any of our players to fail regardless of my opinion of him. That is just senseless. 'Hope he does well for us and the fact that he reject both Arsenal and Chelsea offering more wages than we proposed, shows that he is ready to work his socks off and improve. Here's to hoping.


31 Aug 2017 12:44:37
You really like him MK, don't you 😄😄. Is he from your home town mate?


31 Aug 2017 12:19:02
Talk sport ie sky just declared that lemar and vvd not happening. If that's true, does pipco stay or does Klopp feel ox and salah enough?

I hope he stays due to his X factor to win tight and big games. As a quick aside If he goes it would mean a positive net spend 😍.

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31 Aug 2017 12:28:23
Coutinho stays if no Lemar. Would be utter stupidity to let him go without a suitable replacement. OX is just a squad utility player, not Coutinho's replacement in midfield.


31 Aug 2017 12:42:15
Coutinho is gone guys.


31 Aug 2017 12:45:38
Klopp may be peeved at Cou and rightly so BUT he ain't stupid either. Regardless of the issues he has caused and his disgusting conduct, football is football and life goes on. If he stays, he hast to play and rebuild his bridges. That is the way it is.


31 Aug 2017 12:59:12
I am sorry IB but Coutinho is gone whether you bring someone or not! If we change our tone now then the lad will go public on September 2.
Klopp made a mess of it making it very very late in the window and as usual he will get away with this and the abuse goes to the owners!


31 Aug 2017 13:09:54
He has burnt his bridges his behaviour has been an insult to the fans and the club if he stays he stays on the bench for me or the under 23's.


31 Aug 2017 14:29:15
Always using any opportunity to slag Klopp off, Harry. Give it a rest. Ed01 has already explained that he wanted to keep Cou but since his conduct was disgusting, Klopp decided to get rid in stead. Is Klopp no longer allowed to change his mind? Good grief. Who cares what Cou has to say or not say if he is not sold? Clearly, you do. He will be dealt with, fined, made to apologize and train alone, all the things Suarez who did worse than Cou, was subjected to and that will be that. Get a grip, will ya?


31 Aug 2017 10:38:48
Why isn't VVD in the Dutch squad?

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{Ed001's Note - because he hasn't played.}

31 Aug 2017 12:14:41
Neither has coutinho.


{Ed001's Note - bit different, Couts did not miss the second half of last season with a long term injury.}

31 Aug 2017 12:20:22
Because he doesn't want to play for anyone but Liverpool?


31 Aug 2017 12:47:27
No, VVD is not in the squad as he has not played a game since late Jan so of course, he can't play for the Dutch as he is unfit.


31 Aug 2017 10:33:37
Well here we go one of my favourite days of the year, i am closing my shop got some quilmes in fridge will be glued to this site all day, come on ed give me some good news keep up the great work.

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31 Aug 2017 10:32:10
Mornings Eds,

Probably a question for ED002

Is it true we are in advanced talks to sign Idrissa Gueye's twin brother, Marvin?

I'm not claiming to be in the know, I heard it on the grapevine.

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31 Aug 2017 12:18:40
What are we waiting for? Let's Marvin Gueye and get in on!


31 Aug 2017 12:32:59
Mk Scouser that is a good effort 👏.


31 Aug 2017 12:48:06
Is he a CB?


31 Aug 2017 13:09:07
Some of you guys desperately need help and some counseling. Jeez.


31 Aug 2017 12:04:26
Was recently looking through some of the past comments on Coutinho (gr8 search function! ) - See below. Food for thought but he really came on a lot at LFC. I remember when he first came I thought he was a bit physically weak, could not shoot on goal for toffee, but now he's valued at around 160mil! Keep thinking how good AOC would be now if he signed for us 4 years ago.

01 Jan 2014 16:34:40
How good could Coutinho be if he could shoot on target?

01 Jan 2014 17:02:19
Probably he would become the best striker.
He should pass more than shoot.

How good will he be when he is a complete player?

He's young with plenty to learn so it will come with time.

I agree Davey, give him a little Tim lads as he's still only 21 which really is pretty young in footballing terms

01 Jan 2014 20:30:16
Felt sorry for him after that amazing solo effort in the 90 minutes or so from the halfway line. Skips past three/ four players with ease, skill and grace then seems to not be able to score.

He knows he has missed a few recently so probably just feels he needs to score - thus taking more chances. Still, he is only 21 and will undoubtedly improve.

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31 Aug 2017 11:57:42
so what was VVD doing in Liverpool the other day? Picking up some Lightning Seeds vinyl reissues? Sweet Jesus this story.

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31 Aug 2017 12:28:25
He was on his holidays! Pontins southport is lovely this time of year.


31 Aug 2017 11:54:17
Lemar off Mahrez on?

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31 Aug 2017 12:48:43
DEFO not Mahrez.


31 Aug 2017 11:47:00
It's seems Mahrez will replace Lemar at Monaco. He was released from the Algeria squad to complete the move. Probably Lemar is coming to Liverpool! Yeah!

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31 Aug 2017 11:54:10
I don't think we are signing any1 in d end.


31 Aug 2017 12:00:27
Mahrez is going to Chelsea by the looks of it. Not very confident now about getting Lemar.


{Ed001's Note - Leicester are still adamant that they have no bids from anyone other than Roma.}

31 Aug 2017 12:49:40
Can't sell if no bids are coming in.


31 Aug 2017 11:45:19
My opinion:
As it stands we've had a solid window.
If coutinho goes and Ox comes in I will be slightly disappointed, but overall full backs and a wide positions have been addressed. If Lemar and ox come in for Coutinho then we are a better and much balanced side and I'd say we had a pretty good window.

However, from day one I've been desperate for a good centre back, and if one of them arrives, you'd have to say we look as good as any squad 'on paper'. With options off the bench for the first time in a long time.

Here's to hoping aye gents!

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31 Aug 2017 11:35:36
If we can't bring in Lemar, why not go big for Draxler?
Top draw player, German connection and it seems he's available, and surely like any footballer with a brain he'd opt for us over the gooners!

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31 Aug 2017 12:51:16
Or keep Cou?


31 Aug 2017 11:25:18
Danny Ings linked with loan move to Newcastle according to sky sports news.

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31 Aug 2017 11:19:24
If VVD has stated he will not play for Southampton again, why would they want him? I for one dinner want coutinho for the same reason, thy have bought a new CB why not just let VVD leave?

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31 Aug 2017 11:35:46
Their owners might want to keep their words to fans!


31 Aug 2017 11:39:53
But do we really want a player who has behaved in a similar way to the little shhhh.


31 Aug 2017 11:19:20
Bayern Munich looking for Mane Ed's?
Oooopsss.

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31 Aug 2017 12:52:21
They can look till they're blue in the face. That changes nothing.


31 Aug 2017 11:12:52
Ed001, you able to divulge in what our strategy is with the VVD negotiation?

It seems like the club is waiting for an invitation from Saints to make a bid, but surely they'll just have to invite themselves into a discussion with an eye-watering bid?

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{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware the club are waiting for Saints to give the OK. We are not going to antagonise them any further by pushing them on it.}

31 Aug 2017 11:26:20
Do you expect them to change their stance and give it the OK?


{Ed001's Note - I have no idea. New owners there have meant things are not the same as they were.}

31 Aug 2017 11:33:37
At this rate Virgil might have to fake his own death so we can sign his long lost identical twin brother Vincent!


31 Aug 2017 11:41:39
It sounds bizarre ed. Why would Saints suddenly go out of their way to invite Liverpool into a negotiation with only 12 hours left?


{Ed001's Note - because no one else is going to bid and the player is desperate to leave. It is us or keep him as no one else will go in for a player that is determined to sign for us.}

31 Aug 2017 11:55:14
Yeah of course, I just mean it's bizarre that they'd suddenly decide to give the OK with such little time left in the window. Why not do it yesterday? Or the day before? To make Liverpool more desperate?

There is something up, because Liverpool seem to be expecting Southampton to eventually give the OK.


31 Aug 2017 11:59:31
I bet they stick to there guns ed and he will stay and will be back in there team after the international break.?


31 Aug 2017 12:35:58
There is NO WAY Southampton will be giving the OK!


31 Aug 2017 10:57:46
FSG have stated that any offers for Pipco will be flatly rejected.

Southampton have stated that any offers for VVD will be flatly rejected.

So, why is that some on here have decided that Pipco is a done deal but VVD def won't come.

?

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31 Aug 2017 11:09:05
Maybe wait 12 hours and you'll see?
And no to Sanchez, scoring the goals isn't the problem, it's stopping them!


31 Aug 2017 11:52:35
Because ed001 said that Klopp wants rid of Coutinho.


31 Aug 2017 12:54:49
Any offers will be rejected PROVIDED if we don't sign Lemar.


31 Aug 2017 10:54:34
Arsenal only want a player plus cash deal for Sanchez. How about £40,000,001 and Origi :)

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31 Aug 2017 11:02:01
You laugh, but Lacazette, Welbeck and Origi together would make an unusual and potentially dangerous attack.


31 Aug 2017 11:06:01
Markovic?


31 Aug 2017 11:11:30
Possibly but it would be whole lot more dangerous with Sanchez in it.


31 Aug 2017 11:14:03
I'm really tired of hearing word "POTENTIAL" 🙉🙉🙈🙈.


31 Aug 2017 12:53:19
How about the ox +£1.
🤣.


31 Aug 2017 12:55:31
Klopp is not selling Origi under any circumstances.


31 Aug 2017 10:20:35
So my two pence worth on Liverpool's deadline day, for what it's worth (which isn't much) is that the Lemar deal is probably 50/ 50 to happen. Liverpool will probably have to seriously over pay to land him.

VVD, can't see this happening. Again, likely would take a huge offer of over 75m, plus a further charm offensive approach from Liverpool Reps to smooth the deal over with Soton. All too little and too late and the consequences of our previous behaviour earlier in the window.

Long day ahead though, and you never know what last minute deals could happen. Have a good deadline day Reds.
YNWA.

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31 Aug 2017 10:47:50
Lemar was probably a lot easier to buy a month ago. Monacos stance must be based of selling numerous star players previously this window. I think us leaving it soo late to pursue lemar has made it difficult to seal the deal. Why we left it to this stage? Probably got to do with klopp being fed up of coutinho.
Van dijk is the shocking one though. He should have been a Liverpool player by now. Southampton have every right to say get lost to us.


31 Aug 2017 11:13:43
Southampton are being absolutely daft now and letting emotions overrule a simple business decision.

Crazy from them.

They will be left with a highly frustrated player, they need to use their brains.


31 Aug 2017 11:37:10
Maybe see what happens with Couts before you criticize Soton.


31 Aug 2017 10:32:57
I would have gone back to Brandt now that Coutinho is gone and all he wants is playing time. He wouldn't cost a tower!


31 Aug 2017 12:57:59
Harry, Brandt politely declined us as he was not ready to make the jump yet to a big club. Also, Brandt is not a patch on Cou and he is a left-sided attacker and with Mane and/ or Salah, he is not needed. It is Lemar or we keep Cou. That is the state of affairs.


31 Aug 2017 10:19:20
Rumour is Palace have given up on Sakho and gone for Mangala instead.

Shame if we can't shift him now after rejecting a very reasonable last bid of around £25m if rumours are to be believed.

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31 Aug 2017 10:49:29
I think someone will pay the £30 mill before the days done.


31 Aug 2017 10:54:25
Ed001 has suggested West Brom may make a bid if the Palace deal falls through.


{Ed001's Note - that is if they sell Evans mate. That now looks gone as a possibility as no one has come close to matching the asking price.}

31 Aug 2017 11:22:42
Do we want to shift him if we can't get a CB in?


31 Aug 2017 11:43:37
What about swap sahko for Evans😂😂😂.


31 Aug 2017 10:34:32
Mangala wangs Inter and has no interest in joining palace. West Ron would come in for him after loosing out on Johny Evans.


31 Aug 2017 12:58:50
Why would we want a manc, Tc77?


31 Aug 2017 13:11:52
Sarcasm bingo or should it be sheldon.


31 Aug 2017
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Player Confirmed.

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31 Aug 2017 10:16:32
If you haven't seen it, Ed002 has written a comprehensive post about the breakaway pan-European league on our European Soccer site.


Pan-European league info

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31 Aug 2017 10:00:44
Anybody interested in clyne? Id love to see him sold and let joe and trent battle for the position.
Clyne and 50 million for vvd sounds good.

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31 Aug 2017 10:00:41
Eds why have we left it last min to do our signings?

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{Ed001's Note - because it is not easy to get deals done, the end of the transfer window forces teams to compromise and so close the deal.}

31 Aug 2017 10:00:15
James Pearce tweeting that more transfers are possible not probable. I don't know how reliable he is but there you go.

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31 Aug 2017 10:18:49
I think it's more common sense to be honest.
the clubs don't want/ need to sell, so it's going to be a struggle obviously.


31 Aug 2017 09:54:04
So if vvd doesn't happen and klopp says he don't want anyone else does this mean we're back to 'fat les' football?

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31 Aug 2017 09:49:53
I hate this new flood of money due to BT and others pushing up the cost of the TV rights. It's a bubble which will soon burst. Sky will have to raise the cost of their product and soon it will get to a level where people say no thanks and will instead watch a stream for free.

BT should not be bidding for football rights they should be working on fixing my landline which breaks down pretty much every month.

That's my spiel.

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31 Aug 2017 09:55:33
😂 great post.


31 Aug 2017 10:15:26
They're trying to get rid of illegal streaming so I wouldn't assume you'll be able to watch free streaming for much longer.


31 Aug 2017 10:18:54
Where there's a will, there's a way Big Al. Already to expensive for me.


31 Aug 2017 11:04:13
Impossible to stop streaming. all you need is a good vpn and stream from outside uk. they can't affect another countries laws can they.


31 Aug 2017 12:20:13
@redphil
You can pressure a country into bending it's laws. Look at what happened to "The Pirate Bay" in Sweden.


31 Aug 2017 09:45:35
Eds as you mentioned that it's all in Soto's hands regarding VVD, do we have a second option for a CB or will we wait till January or even the next summer?

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{Ed001's Note - we will wait because he will keep trying to make the move happen. He has no intention of staying at Soton and has every intention of joining us.}

31 Aug 2017 09:55:50
Southampton won't sell or to us anyway today IMO. I don't expect us to sign a centre back which will eventually haunt us. We've got shown no serious interest in anyone other centre backs. Just one who we illegally approached.


31 Aug 2017 10:24:35
Sorry Al, not just singling you out. At least having illegally approached him, we are trying to follow through and not leaving Soton or the player in limbo. It'd be worse if we weren't at least trying to tidy up the situation somehow.


31 Aug 2017 10:42:21
I don't think they want to do business with us mate. If Chelsea or arsenal for example offered 50 million they'd most likely accept. I see us possibly bidding close to 70 and it could be rejected.


31 Aug 2017 10:50:02
This is it though, the users on this site would rather criticize the club incessantly than get behind them when they're actively trying to sign the player they've tapped up, right or not.

We're almost obligated to buy VVD now at any price because we've sabotaged his playing career at the least.


31 Aug 2017 11:01:02
Get klopps mate at hudersfield to buy him at 50mil then loan to us with an option to buy at 50mil and a nice little sign on fee to their help 😈.


31 Aug 2017 10:37:42
I think the (illegal) approaches to VVD have successfully put the club into a no win situation. Approach him to sign and get kicked for trying to manipulate the situation and potentially a complaint from Soton. Don't approach to sign him and get kicked for creating this situation and leaving player/ club in an unworkable state. Either way going to get kicked and there is now way out that is the "honourable" thing to do. so maybe this will teach people the lesson of going about things in a better way.


31 Aug 2017 09:45:16
Eds,

In all honesty. Do you think:

Lemar will sign?

VVD will sign?

and what's the rumored shirt number for the OX lol

Thanks again! you guys are brilliant.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate!}

31 Aug 2017 09:57:00
No I think ox is it. I don't think vvd and lemar are probable at this stage. If coutinho leaves however I suspect it will be an interesting window to assess.


31 Aug 2017 09:57:00
No I think ox is it. I don't think vvd and lemar are probable at this stage. If coutinho leaves however I suspect it will be an interesting window to assess.


31 Aug 2017 09:42:37
Eds, in your eyes is it as simple as if.

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{Ed001's Note - is this some kind of love letter about my eyes?}

31 Aug 2017 09:42:04
HAPPY DEADLINE DAY! On the last day or transfers my true love gave to me, Thomas Lemar and hopefully V-V-DDDDDDDDDDDD.

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31 Aug 2017 09:56:39
She gave you VD? STD Clinic tomorrow for you!


31 Aug 2017 10:48:58
She can give me what she wants as long as she bring Lemar and a centre back.


31 Aug 2017 09:34:24
I'm going to bet we don't sign anyone else today . at least FSG tried!

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31 Aug 2017 09:49:27
You mean to say - you are hoping we do sign someone today, but are trying to set yourself up for the event that things may not happen!?!
I thought one of the things people loved about Liverpool fans is that we were the most optimistic. That post is a bit negative don't you think? Regardless of what happens today we are in a good place.


31 Aug 2017 09:50:30
If that's the case then even though I don't want him for lying and faking injury, Coutinho has to stay.


31 Aug 2017 10:29:07
People don't love LFC fans optimism, they love laughing at it, but that's by the by. I agree a bit of positivity wouldn't go amiss. Lemar and Van Dijk then roll on City!


31 Aug 2017 12:19:57
Just being realistic chum - all left too late!
Roll on January!


31 Aug 2017 09:09:20
I'm prepared to be proved wrong here but all this talk that Liverpool have secretly agreed a deal with Barcelona seems pretty ridiculous. Why? Because it's hardly a good plan if everyone knows about it. . What is far more likely is that someone somewhere speculated that this could be the case and because it's quite a good story everyone's jumped on it. It's now so widely shared that people believe it's true. I still think there's a good chance that Couts will be a Liverpool player on Saturday.

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31 Aug 2017 09:26:20
I hope not. That little turd has burnt his bridges with most of us now we just need to get rid.


31 Aug 2017 10:39:21
It was speculated as an approach several times on here before it appeared in the wider media.


31 Aug 2017 09:06:06
I really hope we get Lemar, but more than anything a quality centre back!

If we get both those things i think this window will have ended up really well.

I am well happy with Navy coming next year and Solanke looks a like an excellent prospect, though i hope we don't wast him like we have Grujic so far.

As for the OX, i really think, while i do not thinkg he is a brilliant player by any means, and does lack a football brain, i think he will fit in really well at LFC and surprise a few people (in a good way! :)
Come on you reds.

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31 Aug 2017 08:55:27
Hey eds!
Who we expecting to get in today then? Looking forward to the announcement for messi and Suarez to lfc today? Haha.

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31 Aug 2017 08:54:17
Quick question for the Ed's. Forgetting all the madness surrounding today, IF we do no more business apart from OX, would you be happy with the squad moving forward as a title/ top 4 contender?
Kind Regards.

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{Ed001's Note - I would, yes. We were not that far away anyway and have seemingly solved our priority issue of fullback positions.}

31 Aug 2017 09:26:56
Just need to train the players how to defend set pieces now Ed. You know of any good defensive coaches looking for work.


{Ed001's Note - I don't know many good coaches these days, they get a few badges and they think they are experts. The arrogance of the modern day coach is astounding. All they say is 'how many badges you got' or similar, if you make any kind of comment. No wonder the best players in the world learn to play away from coaching!}

31 Aug 2017 09:48:48
So you're happy with the CBs we have then Eds?


{Ed001's Note - did I say that?}

31 Aug 2017 10:01:39
Well you were asked if you were happy with the squad as a title/ top 4 contender and you said yes, you were happy with the squad moving forward. I am just surprised you didn't mention you'd have liked to add a CB that's all.


{Ed001's Note - I have already stated that a thousand times but also that I would like to see Gomez given more chances and that you can't change the entire team in one window.}

31 Aug 2017 10:07:49
Eds with the money these players are earning now are they still as receptive to being trained by coaches as they were years ago.


{Ed001's Note - it is more about not wanting to give up their day to day involvement in the game. You are a long time retired mate. It is not so much the top end players and coaches I am referring to anyway, it is the no marks in lower league football that think they are special because they have their A license. Most still know f all about the game or how to coach, no matter what their qualifications. They are too full of themselves to realise that coaching is about the people you are working with, not about yourself.}

31 Aug 2017 15:59:29
Cheers for the reply and thoughts eds. Hope you're enjoying your chilled transfer deadline day 🙈.


{Ed001's Note - chilled?}

31 Aug 2017 08:42:53
Whatever happens today thanks Ed's and Macca yet again for your expertise. Really appreciate it. Kids are back in school today. I have a day off. So it's sky sports news and check this page out every 10 seconds. Fingers x for VVD.
Enjoy the drama fellow reds!

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31 Aug 2017 07:19:25
Hi ed 02 great work and all the best for the day u will be bombarded with lot of questions mostly repeated ones😂I would like to ask if a medical is possible on the day of the match when player is abt to play for e. g. In case of lemar will he able allowed to take medical ahead of a match.

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{Ed002's Note - There are no rules against it.}

31 Aug 2017 09:48:55
The eds have also explained that you can agree a deal with subject to a medical. So as ed01 said, medicals aren't an issue for timing.


31 Aug 2017 07:01:56
Ed2, hope you're well? I have a question regarding the Keita deal if I may?

As we have agreed the deal now would the transfer fee (s) count against this year's accounts or would it be next as that's when he will actually join?

Apologies if this is a stupid question but I'm just interested to know.

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - I don't know what the terms are.}

31 Aug 2017 06:32:33
So going into the final day with 5 transfer matters on the table:

1)VVD
2)Lemar
3)Coutinho
4)Oblak
5)Emerson

Ed what's your take on the latter 2 which surfaced late last night?

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{Ed002's Note - Oblak? And another left back?}

31 Aug 2017 08:54:46
Don't forget the muller deal Ed002! Don't worry it'll soon be over.


31 Aug 2017 08:37:35
Could it be that klopp has decided that with salah filling couts left wing role that the ox fills his planned midfield role for couts until lallnados fit again. Then they can battle it out.

Ie even if we don't get Lemar then couts will still be sold.

Personally still hoping for Lemar and vvd!

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31 Aug 2017 08:40:48
It's been a terrible window if Ox has replaced coutinho.
We need a world class talent.


31 Aug 2017 13:22:50
Fowler, read Ed01's comments. Klopp wanted both Ox and Lemar. It is not one or the other. Ox would come in for depth out wide and in midfield and Lemar is a straight replacement for Cou.


31 Aug 2017 08:36:16
Hello Eds, not posted in years now but I have been an avid follower of discussions here especially of Harry's.

And thanks for the good job you guys are doing. Just hold for a little more time, after 11pm today you guys would have the rest you deserve until we start to disturb you again for January window rumors.

My take on AOC.
I think he should be given a chance to prove us right/ wrong before we praise/ slate him.

I remember we had the same issue with Mane with everyone crucifying him yet he proved a lot of us wrong. And now he is arguably our best player.

Just give AOC the chance and then we will talk about this by January.

Anfield Red.

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{Ed001's Note - honestly I wish that were true, but tomorrow will be just as busy and then the January questions start.}

31 Aug 2017 08:58:53
The issue with Mane was not his ability but his attitude. Which has been first class. The issue with Ox is his abiity, and lack of. I don't think there is any question on his attitude.


31 Aug 2017 09:58:45
Change the record Dennis, you must have written 50 posts in the last week slating ox. Great that you've given him a chance to prove himself.


31 Aug 2017 13:26:43
Swisch, Dennis is correct and I agree with his post and we are not the only ones who have that opinion either. I will support Ox cos he is our player and made financial efforts to come here and since I will never root for any LFC player to fail (even those I did not want to come here), he will have my support. But that does not mean that us having a different opinion from yours, makes us haters or slaters. You are aware that two things can be right at the same time, right?


31 Aug 2017 08:27:38
Football is a funny old game. A few weeks ago we were adamant our maestro Coutinho would not leave for any price. Now it seems the majority are happy for him to go and have all our hopes on VVD, Keita and Lemar who have all come to fruition last season. If we pull off the 3 signings and Coutinho goes then I really hope they are a success here. But I can honestly put my hand up and say I'd never heard of Keita or Lemar this time last season.

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31 Aug 2017 09:01:13
Thing is Jayden, things change very quickly, refusing play for your club citing an injury, yet suddenly recovering to play for your country and making noises about going on strike and refusing to play for the club that pays you only makes me want rid of him and replacing him with a talented footballer like Lemar who actually does want to come (by all accounts) .


31 Aug 2017 08:19:19
Would like to thank the eds for making the banter to 10 pages. I've never done so much reading in years. Haha.

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{Ed033's Note - Now we can all practise speed reading techniques and become omniscient like Ed002.

31 Aug 2017
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Is this proof he's signed? Good luck ox

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31 Aug 2017
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Wanted to watch Siggurdson's goal but it turns out footytube has never heard of the lesser known team from Liverpool!

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31 Aug 2017 08:08:04
Morning all,
Happy Deadline Day.
So not ITK except for this site and media, so please let me know if I am missing anything. Players in:
AOC - Pretty much done
VVD - No news updates, plenty want him including Southampton! We need this one over all others right now - have negotiations been happening behind closed doors? I hope so.
Lemar - Fee to be agreed - some mention of this being completed and player moving next summer - can't see it if Coutinho goes.
Players out:
Coutinho - The purported £148mil deal may well be enough, and think the Lemar rumours are a result of this.
Sakho - Bids rejected around £25mil we are asking for £30mil! Got to reduce his price to sell.
Markovic - I can see a loan at best now.
Mignolet - I can't see this happening right now - it's too late.
Origi - Can see the loan move happening
Sturridge - Stays.
Can - Will stay until his contract ends next summer then go for free.
Trying to cover all and not added clubs as too much, please add / correct me. It will be interesting at the end of Spanish window (tomorrow) to see how the above stands.
Thanks.

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31 Aug 2017 08:20:27
Fair assessment for me. Maybe can will go on a bit through the year but yeah I'd say that's fairly close to our state of affairs.


31 Aug 2017 08:21:46
No smokescreen runours of lemar actually behind the scenes we trying to get konoplyanka?


31 Aug 2017 08:27:49
Akshit - what do they call that again? When they tell press one thing and do something else on the quiet! Ha ha Konoplyanka - blast from the past mate.


31 Aug 2017 08:00:25
Roberto Firmino is Liverpool’s ultimate utility player, and whichever position he plays in there are shades of Thomas Muller, the Raumdeuter.

Sometimes brilliance is subtle. At other times it hits you in the face like a Jimmy Case thunderbolt.

At various points in his Liverpool career Firmino has ticked both these boxes.

From the moments of magic which lead to his joyous, bookable celebrations, to his understated movement off the ball in attack.

From his much discussed defensive pressing, to his under-appreciated role as the only player trusted by Jurgen Klopp to play in any attacking position.

Firmino is all kinds of brilliance.

His versatility means that his exact position and role is hard to pin down, but the answer may lie in the Bundesliga — a league he once graced and one where he learned much of his craft.

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31 Aug 2017 07:59:21
Morning Eds,

Is it possible that the deals for Coutinho, VVD and Lemar are all done but they save them for Deadline Day on Sky?

Good luck for today and rest up for January

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - no one saves transfer business up for the benefit of Sly.}

31 Aug 2017 08:32:40
Ed01, wouldn't surprise me if they had. They would make deadline day a PPV event just to squeeze even more money and soul out of football 😂.


31 Aug 2017 08:35:41
Palm face emoji!


31 Aug 2017 07:56:08
Morning all

Eds is it looking like all of our focus on Lemar today then or might we see someone else🤔.

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{Ed001's Note - Ox, Lemar, possibly VVD is the likely scenario for today. I am not hopeful on VVD though. Tomorrow will be bye bye Couts I expect.}

31 Aug 2017 08:04:29
Cheers ed. Not hopefull on big Virg, ah well mate we knew it was going to be difficult didn't we.


{Ed001's Note - ball is in Southampton's court there, so it is difficult to know. The player has asked and asked and asked to be allowed to move to Liverpool.}

31 Aug 2017 08:11:19
I suspect you're right on Couts Ed01.
But there is a small part of me thinks that FSG / J. Henry would have considered the 'what ifs' before allowing the statement out that he is not going to be sold. As in. What if they bid 150ml? What if he goes on strike and trys to ruin his relationship with the club? Etc etc.
And they still stated he would not be sold.


{Ed001's Note - their statement said that Couts would still be a Liverpool player when the window shuts. Hence why I said tomorrow, after the window shuts here.}

31 Aug 2017 08:34:47
Fair assesment ed as always mate and we wouldn't be pushing for Lemar if Couts was staying like youve explained. The CB situation is puzzling as it is was a priority area. We knew they wouldn't sell him we should of gone for alternative.


{Ed001's Note - but we didn't know that, the expectation was they would sell him in the end but just make us pay through the nose.}

31 Aug 2017 09:35:57
I see what ya saying ed and I guess that is still possible. Do we need to wait for another club to bid for him first though before we bid?


{Ed001's Note - no, it is nothing to do with other clubs, it is all about Southampton.}

31 Aug 2017 07:53:08
Looks like Liverpool will finally be active on deadline day! Very exciting and work is going to drag!

Good luck to all the ed's tramming through everything today.

I'm hoping for VVD and Lemar will sign. This may be a little controversial but I'd genuinly let Coutinho go, he obviously wants to move and I don't think we will miss him that much!

YNWA.

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31 Aug 2017 07:56:19
Agree 100% - would be a great outcome.


31 Aug 2017 07:58:34
It's not controversial at all. If he wants to make his position untenable, then untenable it is.


31 Aug 2017 08:14:37
Pipcango.


31 Aug 2017 08:38:01
Countinho's position isn't untenable.
It's worse that that: It's unelevenable.


31 Aug 2017 07:20:26
Does it look like anythings going to happen? Well past says nothing. maybe monacos president will delay the negotiation? 😅so i have decided not to xpct any signings today otherwise will be feeling bad afterwards😅😅😅.

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31 Aug 2017 07:27:44
The Ox will happen!


31 Aug 2017 07:36:29
It has already happened😅.


31 Aug 2017 07:55:18
Personal terms not agreed yet considering he turned down supposedly 220k per year from Chelsea. might reconsider when we offer 80k.


{Ed001's Note - that is all done, only awaits the medical results to be finalised.}

31 Aug 2017 07:19:13
Sakho - Sell
Markovic - Sell
Coutinho - Sell
Origi - Loan

Lemar - Buy
Van Dijk - Buy

I'm not a religious man, but please, dear Robbie Fowler, make this happen today so we can get on with our lives.

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31 Aug 2017 06:48:11
Renato Sanchez or AOX Ed01?
Both out of favor, Both need game assurances. Both wants to play in the midfiled. One cost £35 mill and the other £2 mill in loan fees!

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{Ed001's Note - from what I have seen of Sanchez I wouldn't touch him at all. I fail to see the relevance in the costs, one is a permanent deal with the potential for a resale to recoup the money, the other is just literally thrown away on developing a player for someone else. Loans are just a waste of time and money unless you are desperate to fill a gap and can't find a player. Short termism at its worst and they should be abolished.}

31 Aug 2017 06:43:07
Hi Reds and Ed's.

I live in the States and want to watch Deadline Day coverage. What UK network do you recommend I stream?

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31 Aug 2017 06:51:16
It's ok sly sports mate. Try finding a decent stream!


31 Aug 2017 06:54:39
Sky Sports.


31 Aug 2017 07:00:38
I'll get some stick for this but, as far as I'm aware, sky sports news is the only news channel that will be focusing on it.


31 Aug 2017 06:42:06
I've heard that Van Dijk had a bad drem last night, that he was staying at Southampton.

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31 Aug 2017 07:46:19
I once had a bad drem but now I stopped dreming.


31 Aug 2017 06:21:26
Good morning reds and Eds! Exciting deadline day coming up.
I'm Hoping we get VVD and Lemar done and dusted, and if we sort the Coutinho stuff out too that would be great.
Will the owners go back on their word and Sell Phil, Will they go back on their word and bid for VVD? Who knows but one things for sure not much work will be getting done coz I'll be checking this site 😂.

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31 Aug 2017 07:16:43
I'm going to leave it today and scour the wreckage when I get home 🤝.


31 Aug 2017 07:35:55
Ron Keague, its been my attitude for the last few days, but. i keep coming back for more!


31 Aug 2017 05:28:01
I just want to clear my post was in the context of football and no personal remarks. I don't promote or encourage any personal remarks nor I do it. Apologies if my post have hurt anyone's sentiment or emotions.

Cheers
Harry.

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31 Aug 2017 05:34:36
Fair post Harry - you're not the only one that's said the brains comment BTW so wasn't trying to target my post specifically at you.


31 Aug 2017 05:43:21
SG

Been posting from over a decade mate! Never ever I have hurt someone's emotions or feelings. I wouldn't go by that route. My post are strictly related to the GAME.


31 Aug 2017 06:19:18
And taken in that context. YNWA mate.


31 Aug 2017 04:40:53
I wish people would not refer to anyone's footballing ability as a judgement on whether they have brains or not - there are many geniuses out there with zero footballing ability and visa versa.

Lacking vision for a pass, ability to read the play etc. does not imply someone is actually lacking in brains or stupid, it's just a different skill.

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31 Aug 2017 05:00:33
Tsanc yuou.
Dejaann Louvrin.


31 Aug 2017 07:51:07
SGred saying someone doesn't have intelligence on the ball isn't to imply that they're thick. Look at Glen Johnson, he has a first class honours degree in maths, but had no intelligence on the ball or in his positioning. By the same token Ronaldinho was very intelligent on the pitch, but thick as two short planks.


31 Aug 2017 09:36:12
I don't agree with much harry says 😂 But reading this site for years and wouldn't imagine he'd try offend anyone.


30 Aug 2017 23:07:12
Hi Ed001/ 002,
What is happening with Yan Dhanda? Wasn't he of interest from a few Championship club? Do you see him going out on a loan? That kid looks brilliant in our U23 team. or is he being held back because of a contract issue?

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{Ed001's Note - he will probably go out on loan. Depends on the offers that come in.}

30 Aug 2017 22:42:34
Eds have you any clues about which CB could leave if VVD arrives? Any clubs interested in any of them? Or would we likely just end up with 5 at this stage with Joe stacking his claim at RB?
Thanks a mil and good luck tomorrow!

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{Ed001's Note - it is unlikely any of them will leave.}

30 Aug 2017 22:20:16
Ed 01, quick one. Do you reckon Clyne will get back in the team? dya reckon klopp still sees him as no1 right back?

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{Ed001's Note - depends on fitness and form of the other two. No.}

31 Aug 2017 06:58:56
How about a last minute deadline day move for Clyde ED?


{Ed001's Note - but who would Clint Eastwood use to make right turns then?}

31 Aug 2017 07:06:40
Showing your age with that reference Ed.


{Ed001's Note - I might just like classic movies......}

31 Aug 2017 07:38:22
Loved, great movie!


31 Aug 2017 01:32:27
Evening Reds.

Looking like the Ox is practically done. Who I'm wondering about is Lamar, I know nothing of him and never seen him play, any good? is he needed? Is not a CB more important?

Bit of a crazy transfer window but it seems like lots is getting done at the moment, I just wan't it all over now, we'll see what happens, sooner this time tomorrow comes the better.

Thanks for your hard work eds.

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31 Aug 2017 03:38:48
CB is more important but Lemar is the defacto replacement for Coutinho. He can play midfield, no.10 or on the wing, is quick, good feet, creative, scores plenty of goals and assists and has a solid set piece.

Think he will add that attacking spark we sometimes miss in midfield but frankly with our midfield playing as it is, Lallana to return, Grujic as backup and Keita still to come, I think Lemar is a preferred signing while CB is a priority signing.


31 Aug 2017 07:19:34
We should bite the bullet and start training Grujic into a centre back. We have a plethora of central midfielders and he is just going to lose his work permit. Others have made the transition.


31 Aug 2017 07:52:17
Our midfield has had one good game against a team that set up in away that suited us. We definitely need more of a creative spark to balance those three out.

Teams like Chelsea and Utd will sit in and it'll be much more of a can we break them down. That's when that midfield three of can, hendo and wij would struggle.

Makes sense to replace couts with Lemar if possible.


31 Aug 2017 01:13:50
Klopp loves speedy, athletic players - if you look at his Dortmund sides he always has this. One player that you wouldn't think of as a superstar player was Kagawa - very good speedy, athletic, could almost play in any attacking role. But he was brilliant for Dortmund and Klopp loved him.

Suspect Klopp looks at AOX in the same vein.

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31 Aug 2017 04:22:25
Yea except Coutinho who was the best player outside the ". Speedy, athletic hard core runners. " No wonder he is targeting players from central and west Africa now lol! Running gives you nothing if you have no brains!


31 Aug 2017 04:50:38
That's bordering racism Harry.


31 Aug 2017 05:23:48
John

I am sorry but absolutely NOT! It's no secret the best athletes comes from that continent. They are naturally born talent and are very good at it. In football running alone doesn't count.


31 Aug 2017 07:25:33
What a great shame. Clear racist xenophobia, and you don't even recognize it. Just a great pity and shame.


31 Aug 2017 07:53:31
Have to disagree with the replies and agree with Harry here. The way I'm reading his post there's no racism at all.
It's true, there are many athletes from the African continent. The point Harry is making is if ANY football speedster possesses little to no football intelligence then they're as useful as Oleg McNoleg in an arse kicking contest.


31 Aug 2017 00:29:34
Apparently Origi to Wolfsburg on loan for a year.

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31 Aug 2017 01:27:05
It amazes me how people don't seem to believe that with application and determination a footballer's game can improve significantly. Add a talented coaching staff, a supportive club and fanbase, and it's more than possible for AOC to be surprise us all. Stranger things have happened IMO.

I believe he's young enough to improve and will be eager to prove, if only to himself, that he made the right decision.
Moreno has moved from woeful to not so bad and might still improve further.

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31 Aug 2017 03:25:28
De Bruyne, Coutinho, Lukaku, all moved on from previous clubs as they weren't hitting the heights expected of them. Sometimes it takes the right club and coaches to bring out the best in a player.


31 Aug 2017 04:23:22
KDB and Coutinho has Brains something AOX doesn't possess! No other differences mate!


31 Aug 2017 05:08:42
Please correct me if im wrong, Harry, but im pretty certain that Coutinho Lukaku and KDB had the same pieces of anatomy in their skulls when they were at Inter and Chelsea. Regardless of their perceived intelligence, they had trouble establishing themselves until they moved clubs.


31 Aug 2017 05:21:40
I am sorry but it playing time that lead to KDB and Coutinho's exit from Chelsea and inter! Nothing to do with ability!


{Ed001's Note - except that they couldn't get playing time because the clubs felt they were not good enough at that stage in their careers. That would be everything to do with ability.}

31 Aug 2017 07:28:29
Ox has never really had a long run in a position to learn it. Whether through injury or more recently through Wenger changing his position every week. My mate (Arsenal fan) said he had a couple of games at cm where he played well and looked like the only player really trying and they thought this would become his position and then for some reason next game he'd be left out or playing wing back instead. the boy has talent Wenger just doesn't know what he's doing these days.


31 Aug 2017 01:24:02
Eds, I know there is a standard procedure to transfers. Negotiations, fee agreed, medical etc etc. Is there ever any deviations to this process? Is it possible for the medical to happen before a fee is agreed or can a player agree to a fee before a club does?

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31 Aug 2017 01:51:41
Interesting article on BBC website around transfers, proves it's a ridiculous system that's ripe for super agents to operate in the grey areas and rip everyone off, including their clients, the clubs and indirectly the fans. It really does need reform.


31 Aug 2017 00:19:14
Has anyone else heard that Pipco signed for Barcelona 2 weeks ago and Barcelona agreed not to announce until the window shuts (a day later in Spain) in order that Liverpool wouldn't have to pay a premium on players? Also as part of the package, Barcelona agreed that LFC could have first refusal on players they wanted to move on?

No idea if there is truth in this, but seems plausible.

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31 Aug 2017 01:37:21
I've been saying that for weeks. It happened with Bale and Spurs.


31 Aug 2017 01:40:48
I'm pretty sure Liverpool have a rough deal in place at least and ready to sign once replacements are in place. Suspect more likely just not signed yet because it puts us at risk of not getting our targets and being short a playmaker.


31 Aug 2017 01:43:07
yes I have heard this as well.


31 Aug 2017 02:32:05
Yeah it was plausible when the 50 other people on here said the same thing ;)


31 Aug 2017 02:41:36
Yea. On this website. About 6 times. Below.


31 Aug 2017 04:13:53
What would be the reason for all the things Coutinho has allegedly said? Why wouldn't he train or play if a deal was done and he was sure he was leaving? Why the 'emotional stress' the Brazil FA doctor says he is under?

An elaborate scheme to fool us all, if ever there was one, I guess.


31 Aug 2017 05:10:09
I reckon the deal was done with Couts when he signed the long term contract.


31 Aug 2017 06:15:04
jcan - so he doesn't get injured playing for LFC?
Or because they've already transferred his registration?

2 reasons he might not be playing for LFC.


31 Aug 2017 07:13:11
Sounds like bull to me, just another theory.


31 Aug 2017 00:08:56
Just to give you guys some relief from the transfer stress just watched the highlights of a young lad called Edvard Tagseth 16 years old playing for Gerrards u18 side against looks a tasty wee player looks to be a bit of a box to box midfielder. Do you know much about him eds?

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