Liverpool Banter Archive November 30 2012
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30 Nov 2012 23:45:03
I'm getting very concerned about sterlings situation,reports are coming in that he hasn't even been offered a contract yet and man city are sniffing around,also tom ince and sturridge,no thanks to either,both players think there much better than wot they actually are.
Paul d
He (or his agent) wants nearly 3 times more in wages than the club are prepared to offer.. There is also an off-duty down-town discipline problem that is yet to be resolved by all parties involved . Allegedly. RED LENIN.
He'll sign. Where else can he have the chance to play 21 games already at!!
He wont get a second playing time at Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester United, or Manchester City. The only place where I can actually see him get time on the pitch (albeit not starting every game) is Tottenham. It would however sicken me to the core if he were to leave now, after Rodgers has put so much faith in him, and is the sole reason to the hype around him. Any other manager would have given him 15 minutes off the bench in cup games!
Some of the rumours are so utterly ridiculous! I sometimes think the press have a good time just by causing problems where none exist. He'll sign in January. Fact!
Sooner have players like Ince and Sturridge who think their great and full of confidence to take a man on, have shot,score a few goals than have players like Downing and Henderson who don't have confidence for anything. "You got to have a bit of arrogance to be a really good footballer"
kidmillions
Wait until the boy turns 18
Maybe he should watch some of his own performances. He has potential but he's really not that special.
Zoidberg (V)(;,,;)(V)
Agents are in it for themselves, they wont care if he never kicks a ball again, higher wages for him, higher wages for them. He'll be off. And if he see's it like that . bye bye
Even if its true that he hasn't been offered a new contract yet, that may well be in a formal sense as he can't sign a long-term pro contract until he turns 18 - the club will still be in negotiations with him to get it sorted.
Just need to ignore the newspapers making a big thing out of nothing - half the journalists prob dont even realise those are the rules!
JammyRed
Other clubs are trying to make a story out of nothing, trying to open up a market for him. It's not gonna happen, he will sign.
30 Nov 2012 23:30:44
I am not going to say get BR out - albeit he has made some mistakes either down to inexperience or arrogance
Just want to remind everyone that while FSG were interviewing Martinez in the US , Brendan stated publicly that he had not been approached by LFc and if he ever was then he would refuse as he wanted to stay at Swansea
All that carp about being FSG s first choice was another load of PR tosh for the simpletons
Leam Red
And the point of your post is??
"Once I had found out that I was number one target for the important people at Liverpool, it was quite an easy decision to make." Brendan Rodgers 1/6/2012
Care to add anything, Leam? Singred
What else could BR say after initially being over look as Henry eyes turned towards Roberto M.
Jaysus thank God they (LFC) came for me now!
Singred
Suggest you read the Swansea statement when Martinez was being interviewed
And look up Rodgers press conference
Once Martinez and others were out of the picture obviously Rodgers became number one choice
Looks like the PR worked on you then
Also I bet you didn't even realise Michael laudrup was acting as an advisor to FSG during their search for kk's successor - how convenient
Leam Red
30 Nov 2012 22:23:10
Problem I have with Rodgers is 2 fold.
He's arrogant and he's dour. I think his arrogance is misplaced. He's done nothing in the game and yet he lauds around pretending he's reinvented the wheel.
Normally I could ignore this but his
misplaced arrogance leads me to assume he is unwilling to accept that he might be wrong. If you don't appreciate your errors you will never learn from them and if you don't learn from them you will never improve.
His refusal to take blame for poor results and put it all down to bad luck, bad refereeing and previous manager's mistakes reinforces my suspicions about him.
Secondly he is dour. He takes himself WAY too seriously. You're a football manager mate, you're not a leading philosopher, scientist or top educator. Get a sense of perspective, get some humility and get a ruddy sense of humour. He's the most humourless man I've ever seen.
This may seem like nit-picking but I think a vital part of football management is to improve the mood of the team. You need to inspire and motivate. That takes personality and charisma, 2 qualities Bren seems to be totally devoid of.
It's all very well talking a good game and saying you're educating the players, but you need to inspire them too.
Marcus Aurelius
I must disagree with these comments, who cares if a manager is dour,just look at the interviews kenny gave towards the end of his reign,or arsene wenger,or avb,and what about that miserable git saf.If br improves the team i dont care if he jokes around all day or not
I'm sure a lot of it has been down to bad decisions and bad luck? I don't get people who can't actually see we are a I'm lucky team. Not only that he does admit when he's done wrong such as the skirtle pass back he admitted that's his fault. Not only this we have been playing well just need to start getting results which is what he has said? Think you need to look in the mirror and see who the arrogant one is. Londenred
I can go through a list of top managers with the same traits e.g. Mourinho, Wenger, Redknapp and the biggest knob Fergie, so what's your point? Singred
I have seen Rodgers take the blame personally in post match interviews so to say he is aragant and refuses to take the blame is unfair.
MIKEY
Another bad fan who is having ago at BR , and he is wrong , you see pics of the manager and players on the training ground , and you see them laughing , 2 we have had good goals disalowed by bad decisions from refs and linesmen , plus the fact that suarez has not had a pen at all , again bad refs and linesmen , its not bad luck but bad calls by the officials , and the way he can change the formation and that he makes subs at the right time is inspiring to me , plus on the motivation level he talks about well how well has a team played with only 1 striker and a few teenagers in it , then he must motivate these players to get the good performances out of this thread bare squad so again this fans post is so wrong on every point he made , its just that he cant see the bigger picture like myself and other fans can see , or maybe he is just another bitter rafa fan who clings to the hope of the dictator returning , he wants to try and support a team who are in transition with a slim squad , support the team !!
mickey b
JFT96
To the original poster! He's managing LFC so there's bound to be pressure on him as all's not going to plan! And by the look's of it there's gonna be more down's than up's over the next two month's!
I agree with you centurian
A manager must admit his mistakes and learn from them otherwise he'll keep repeating those same very mistakes, and BR aint listening to anyone but himself and those that tell me how great he is in other words his lackeys he brought with him from swansea..
As for BR's lack of charm well a charm school for a few years would do no harm.
We had a manager with humour and charisma we sacked him.
01 Dec 2012 10:35:11
The accusations of the original poster could equally be applied to Mr Shankly. Without the risk of appointing Shanks at the time we would never be where we got to 70-90s and beyond. So what is his point? BR is different to Shanks for sure (and the great Paisley). He is knowlegeable, respected in the football world and for me is the right guy at the right time for us. Support him don't knock him. Give him some time and he will get it right. Support the team. We are LFC as a family! Not many other clubs can say the same.
I for one support LFC win or lose. Some on here just expect to win every time.....ain't gonna happen.......but it would be nice!
Iggypop
Reply from original poster and "bad fan" with an opinion:
Mourinho oozes charisma, all his players love him, he plays the press of course but he is one of the most charismatic and inspirational managers in the game.
Wenger and Fergusson have won everything (except Wenger in Europe) Fergie came to Man Utd with an incredible record from Scotland, successful domestically and I Europe. Not many Aberdeen managers can say that. Wenger came to England and won the league and cup double in his first season. For these 2 their record is their inspiration, as a player that gets instant respect.
Shankly was one of the most charismatic men of his era. His humour and charisma was beyond question. His teams felt as though they were invincible because he convinced them they were and the opponents felt they were mugs, because he constantly undermined them and their confidence.
All I will say to people is look at the team on match days. Do they look confident, do they look inspired or do they look hesitant and unsure of themselves?
For me it's the latter. This I put down to the manager.
Marcus Aurelius
PS:
Rafa was a great manager, but his time was up and I don't want him back.
Marcus Aurelius
PPS:
To all those who say "support the team".
1) where were you when Roy Hodgson was sacked?
2) I do support the team but that doesn't mean I can't form an opinion based on observation of the manager. I have been a LFC fan for a great many years and have seen it all, that is why I feel justified in forming an opinion.
Marcus A - do we just judge a manager on his reactions in press interviews?
If you want humour - watch Holloway
If you want Neuroses - watch Ferguson after dropped points
If you want unhinged - watch Dalglish in the last few months of his reign
If you want a succession of FACTS - watch Benitez
You pays your money and you takes your pick...
Puzzled
For me, the teams mentality is a reflection of the managers.
Look at 2010/11: terrible results under Hodgson. Kenny comes in, everyone pulls together, best football and results in league with essentially same squad.
It's not about interviews, it's about the team lacking confidence, drive, motivation and assurance. They look lost.
30 Nov 2012 19:37:12
Hi Ed002,
I have not been writing as much but I have been reading. Who do you think are the most likely options for Liverpool this January. I have heard the most about: Sturridge, Walcott, Ince, Dianimo and the striker from Villareal. Are these real options and are their ones that I have missed? Thanks.
Coley {Ed002's Note - I suspect Srurridge, Huntelaar, Jeffen rem the pick of the pops.}
Huntellar on his own.
Ed002 had a bit too much to drink have we? {Ed002's Note - Not yet man.}
30 Nov 2012 18:37:28
Edds. Do you actually know of anyone the reds are after. {Ed002's Note - Which reds?}
30 Nov 2012 21:57:50
It's getting really really boring on this site. Wallcott Sturridge Huntellar. The manager is s**t, the manager is the new Shankley. It's not banter it's people over reacting to a result either way. I didn't want Rodgers but I am prepared to give him a chance, is he the second coming of Bill NO. But we have got to respect each others opinion. I F**kin hate F$G, but if people rate them then i will take there views on board and respect what there views are even though i don't agree. I hope theres some posters with something fresh to post over the coming weeks, if i hear anything I will post it but it wont be on any of the boring subjects I've listed above.
Waro
You hate business men that saved our club from going bust. Nice one you really have thought that one out well. I forgot you are a true fan.
Mighty reds
I still think it's too early to tell on FSG. I believe they are looking to make a tidy profit but only by growing the club. So credit where it's due. Mistakes have been made by them but mostly PR mistakes and I couldnt care less what the papers say about us cos I don't read them.
On a business point of view they have done little wrong though.
MIKEY
Hyperbole! Mighty Reds
The Irish Rover
30 Nov 2012 21:38:00
David price best ov luck
YNWA. Lfc linc
Didn't last too long.
FowlerGod.
30 Nov 2012 21:10:49
Liverpool should check out Marco Rojas from Melbourne Victory, this guy is 20 and plays in a wide attacking position, they play the same system as liverpool, I know the a-league isn't the prem but he has loads of pace and skill, would put some of our current wide men to shame. Has scored 5 goals in 7 games, check out his goal from last nite against the Glory, quality is quality in any league.
pjreds
I have actually noticed him a lot in the highlights that is on occasionally. He will need a few seasons, which many fans on this site are not prepared to give him. I also think that the likes of Ibe, Sinclaire , Yesil, Morgan and Trickett Smith will be pushing for places in the first team in the next 2-3 seasons.
derryred
There's a huge gulf between the A-league and the PL. Emile Heskey stands out in the A-league which kinda proves my point.
cozinoz
30 Nov 2012 21:09:09
I'm continually encouraged by our performances and believe the future is bright. I will scratch my head though if Downing continues at left back. If BR wants to use Enrique at LM then Robbo is good cover at LB, or Johnson at left and Wisdom if fit at RB. My preference would be Enrique at LB and Assadi or Suso further forward.
BurkeyBoy
Couldn't agree more!
CHickey.
Agreed in the main but I have loved watching Enrique further forward these past few games. He's been MOTM for me and certainly better at attacking than defending and is there in the box when the crosses come in from the right. Put Robinson behind him so he doesn't need to track back so much and we have a pretty decent LM ready-made.
cozinoz
It is annoying to see Downing play left back when Robinson or Wisdom are actually defenders and capable of defending, while Downing makes school boy mistakes in his positional work because, well, it's not his position.
Enrique is a terrible defender, BR knows this and even trusts Downing ahead of him.
I think we'll see wisdom cover the LB pos today and I'd personally like to see enrique continue to operate further up, he seems to create chances but can also infuriate at the same time. I hope today brings a much needed win but my head is telling me that we'll dominate throughout and scrape a 1 - 0 or at worse 1-1. Hopefully Sahin can get some game time and show us what he's capable of, I'm also interested to see how BR reshapes his mid when introducing Lucas in the last 20 mins.
Br does what he is told to do thats why kk signings are in the team
He can hold on to ball really well. Which is a massive plus further up the field.
kidmillions
30 Nov 2012 20:34:31
Before you write your next negative post, remember this...
What is it that makes Liverpool supporters different from everyone else?
Real Liverpool supporters are patient.
Real Liverpool supporters will 'sing their hearts out for the lads'.
Real Liverpool supporters respect the opposition and acknowledge talent.
Real Liverpool supporters are well educated in the game and know good football when they see it.
Real Liverpool supporters understand that a player may have an 'off day'.
Real Liverpool supporters fully support the manager and share his vision.
Real Liverpool supporters don't slag off 'loyal servants' to the club.
Real Liverpool supporters have realistic expectations.
Real Liverpool supporters will never turn their back on the club.
Real Liverpool supporters will never forget the 96 fans who lost their lives on that tragic day.
And finally, Real Liverpool supporters will never walk alone....
Grant.
Nicely put.
FowlerGod.
Just a question Grant, were were you as a REAL liverpool supporter when people were slagging Kenny off last season and wanted him OUT after more or less one season? Just asking because as a regular visitor to this site I don't recall seeing any pro Kenny posts from you. As I said, just asking because your a REAL supporter.
Waro
Bit too cheesy for me.
Love that post, chief johnny d
You have a poor memory waro. If you search the archives, you'll find pro-Kenny posts from yours truly.
Fantasy bull sweetie pie Grant
Waro! I am a true staunch Red and have been for 44 year's and get to the match when i can! Back when he was playing he was a legend not only here world wide! then he won us the double in 86 as player manager which propelled him on to becoming one of our greatest manager's! then Hillsbrough happened and he gave his all to the families and should of been knighted for what he gave and endured! then after winning the league the season after with us on top he left! He was offered gardening leave till the summer but declined! citing that he need's a break from football! six month's after that he took the Blackburn job then took them to the title! that was a very hard pill to swallow for a lot of fan's and we're still paying for it now! not winning the league! Twenty year'after walking out on LFC he walked back in to steady a sinking liner! He took us from very low to 7 place finish which was very good considering the position we we're in and football we we're playing before Kenny arrived! He got a contract plus a load of money to spend and he wasted it big time! now it seem's with him spending that amount of money on no so good footballer's he's set us back year's! just like Souness did when he took over and bought Paul Stuart,Julien Dick's, to name just a few! I respect the man for the time's he gave me watching as a player winning cup's as manager first time round and for what he gave and endured with Hillsbrough! But can't forgive him for walking out on LFC then taking Blackburn to the title! And out of his signing's last time 1 good apple out of six! Luis being the good apple!
Broken record around here....
Real Liverpool supporters are patient.....yep 20 years obviously not friggin long enough for you Real Liverpool fans
Real Liverpool supporters are well educated in the game and know good football when they see it.....don't think you do otherwise you would recognise poor defensive lines and piss poor formations that BR is using
Real Liverpool supporters fully support the manager and share his vision.....I would whole heartily support a manager if he knew what he was doing, and had vision but you seem to be oblivious that this guy is actually clueless
Real Liverpool supporters have realistic expectations.....so now your expecting us to just be a mid table club...great!
Real Liverpool supporters will never turn their back on the club....correct but we should expect more than we are getting
I'm getting seriously disappointed by these so called 'real' Liverpool fans lack of ambition
We live for the club but players and owners ?
I rest my case.
Grant.
Holding a grudge for whatever reason against the King is wrong.
The pluses he's made to LFC far outweight any perceived slights
30 Nov 2012 19:42:57
So apprently we top the agents' expenditure list only behind City. It's unbelievable!
RedBeer.
Why is this unbelievable? As Ed002 points out regularly, LFC spends a fair amount of money on players, wages, etc. Just unfortunately the return on that outlay has been pretty dire.
30 Nov 2012 19:14:04
Hey Eds. Do you think will Lucas will start or make the bench tomorrow?
Piledriver {Ed001's Note - I expect bench for him at best.}
30 Nov 2012 19:01:03
How can Liverpool improve? Other than sack the manager, get new owners, and sell certain players. I'm thinking moving forward. I don't think Rodgers was ready for the job but despite some mistakes he's shown the ability to learn from those and like it or not he's the manager and needs some time to implement his ideas.
I don't think we need a centre forward, we're getting plenty of goals in that position from Suarez. With Rodgers' style and formation I think we need more quality in the wing forward positions. Players with speed and skill, that can also play up front when Suarez gets a break. Let's not forget Borini will be back soon and I'd like to see what the lad could do up top.
With Downing looking to be on the out, I wouldn't be surprised if one of two acquisitions was left footed. Jeffren on loan seems to be a possibility, bit of a gamble because despite an abundance of skill has been in poor form. The other name being thrown around is Sturridge. Has the attacking skills but is he capable of pass and move/tiki taka? Plus wouldn't be cheap. As a right footed option Walcott has been thrown around and seems to fit the bill. I think Tello would also be quite a coupe but I don't know if we're interested and if he would be interested.
With two new quality players I think Liverpool would be a much better team and hopefully see goals and space created. So who would my fellow Reds like to see? Try to keep it realistic please.
Great post mate,
personally i would love to see walcott as i think he has the pace and determination to become a fantastic player for us. i wouldnt mind tello on loan, i think he is a better player than jeffren. i agree we dont need a striker as i think borini or morgan can do a good job as back up to the magnificent suarez. Although i have a bad feeling we will probably pay over the odds for sturidge, anything over £9m is too much IMO.
Mati.d
I would take Mertens of psv. Fast, young, and scores goals. A front 3 of mertens, sterling, and suarez with stevie right behind would give us some teeth in the final third. I would also like to see Dede of vasco da gamma in a red shirt.
-Red American
I agree, we need pace wing forward who wont only go for a cross but will cut in and have a go, we desperately need a Dm if Lucas is out again we will be screwed. Question for your guys Do you think Coady can do a better job for us in case we need to give Lucas a break. I did see him play for U21 and he looks very tidy but a 19yr old as a Dm is a very big gamble.I will be very happy with walcott and telo
Red 316
Thanks for the reply Mati.d, I agree with you about Telllo and Walcott. Would love to see Tello on a permanent, however, a buyback clause or a loan as you suggest is probably a little more realistic. To the Eds, is Tello available for a Bosman? Transfermarkt indicates he's in the final year of his current deal, but at his age is he eligible?
Oh dear=Dont need a Striker!! doohhhhh
30 Nov 2012 18:10:51
Evening Ed's. Rumour has it we are preparing a double swoop for Yaya Banana and Senah Mango.
Rodgers believes they can form a fruitful partnership at the back once Skrtel and Agger leave on their quest for Champions League football.
Also a double swoop for south korean twins,
WHY MEE and NOT HIM ????
steve peplow
They would be peaches of a signing, two plum prospects, but i hope they don't turn out to be lemons.
30 Nov 2012 19:53:17
Hope is true, it's gonna be real fruitful - Banana and Mango! I like them fruits.
RedBeer.
What a great pearing - bound to appeel to a lot of people.
ND
Hope it doesn't go pear shaped
They won't come,we only pay peanuts
All a trifle silly.
DJP
30 Nov 2012 17:48:05
Hi eds hope you are well? I hear people speaking that we are balancing the books this season whitch then makes you think that a pot of money is going to be available in the summer but that surely isn't the case is it?
Listen I am totally behind FSG and believe they will always try and support the manager when they can but could you extend what they mean when they say the books need balancing this season?
Mighty reds {Ed052's Note - Not too bad Mighty Reds thanks. No, they are balancing the books. We need to go from making a loss, to breaking even, to making a profit. I would suggest when we make a profit, FSG will reinvest most if not all of it.}
30 Nov 2012 17:46:11
Guys, Just wanted your opinions.
Raheem Sterling has obviously been in the media today and is once again being spoken of very highly.
My opinion of him is that he has been disapointing for the past month or so after his excellent start. I can't help feel that he might not actually be as good as it first seemed.
When I look at Suso and Wisdom they look like solid young players who have great technical ability and understanding. Sterling looks to have been 'found out' though and for me has been disappointing recently.
Am I alone thinking this? {Ed052's Note - yes, in the past month I personally eblieve he has showed some of his best form, as his is more mature in his performances. Also, you have to remember the amount og game she has played - the most of anyone almost.}
Thanks for the reply Ed.
I hope you are right, maybe I am impatient and expected him to be like a firework shooting goals every game!
My view of L'pool is that us fans need to keep faith in BR and the team. This season is not going to be pretty, but the transitional period is looking more promising than most allow us to believe.
We have the best young crop of players in the premier league, and BR is teaching them exciting football styles. The days of Gerrard running through the middle and scoring a screamer are gone, but come next season the likes of Shelvey will be fantastic. They are learning their trade and flourishing this year individually. Next year the players will be settled and show more togetherness. Top players+top teamwork is what makes title challengers. The solid base is almost formed, with only experience and teamwork left to conquer.
Mark my words, put up with this season and be rewarded next.
On another note, I have heard that Bent and Walcott are a serious possibility. They did not excite me much before, but Walcott has come of age lately, and Bent knows how to score. They would fit in nicely right now.
Cheers guys.
Kevin W
Ibe will at least as good as him, probably better.
He should crawl to play for Liverpool.
I hope thisis just media muck stirring
30 Nov 2012 17:05:11
ive got a feeling shelveys going to start tommorow
I've got a feeling tonights going to be a good night
Got out and smash it like OMG
30 Nov 2012 17:24:05
Heard you lot after (MAD)Max Gradel! do a good job,if true!honestly a good signing if it happens in jan.(i'm a leeds supporter,1 of the few thats left).ps WHY did you sell INCE!?Good player!All the best for the rest of season!Oh, and of course beat that mob down the lancs road!
Cheers mate . Good luck to you too .
Jamesy
30 Nov 2012 17:20:53
Possible January buys that won't cost extortionate amounts:
- Remy Cabella, Montpellier.
- Heung-Min Son, Hamburg.
- Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, St. Etienne.
- Fabian Johnson, Hoffenheim.
- Tomer Hemed, Mallorca.
- Iago Aspas, Celta Vigo.
- Leo Baptistao, Rayo Vallecano.
- Wilfried Bony, Vitesse.
- Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, Schalke. {Ed052's Note - I think you will find a lot of those players could cost what you would probably regard as cheap, but for a club like Liverpool as extortionate}
For me extortionate amounts are the near £75m we spent on Carroll, Henderson and Downing. I can't see three players from that list costing anywhere near that much.
30 Nov 2012 17:17:37
Its clear we have pulled a massive coup by snapping up Rodgers. The man is a genuis and we are lucky to have got in before other big clubs sat up and took notice. His signings have all been good quality and on budget, he has addressed the failings of last season and with each match that goes by we get better and better.
We are very lucky to have a boss of this high calibre!
I cant believe the doom cryers, our league position is improving and we are very hard to beat.
Be thankfull we are not performing at the level Roy and Kenny had us playing at NOT GOOD ENUF.
Gratefull Red {Ed052's Note - At the start at I though it was a sarcastic post - but you speak the truth my friend, and your not taking the p I hope...}
I thought you were taking the p!ss too . I do believe Rodgers is the right man . Just hope he doesn't pick downing at left back anymore he is not good enough to play for Liverpool end of .
YNWA
Jamesy
I agree, but we do need to give him time, there are no quick fixes at liverpool anymore and we shouldn`t expect them, gone are the days of spending loads of money on players, i like BR and he is looking to build a team of his own, without him our youngsters wouldn`t get a look in, hopefully we will start seeing an end product in a couple of years,
we have only been outplayed once (against arsenal) if we could put away half the chances we create we would be in the mixer now,
keep going Brendan
wardie
30 Nov 2012 18:27:57
You may want to cut down on the medication
Genius? Please...old red nose is a genius, and I hate the guy...Rodgers will never achieve any where near Fergies ability.
Boss of high calibre? Omg he has won nothing....a big fat zero!....I will gladly grovel on my knees in front of BR, kiss his feet and tell him what a fantastic manager should he win us a title in the next ten years....but I'm pretty confident I won't be scuffing my knees while he is employing his one and only tactic
Good signings on budget? Really £15m for Allen who is at best a £5m player.
Although in fairness that was probably Comollis doing
Our league position is improving? Yes we have ascended to the heady heights of 12th
He is taking the proverbials
No one in sanity could think BR is right for the job
Thunderlieger
I think you will find Roy's and KK's records are better than BR's in terms of results. Under KK we won a trophy, not likely under the current form.
I think BR will do well given money and time but to say he's done well is premature.
Allen, Sahib, Assidi and Boroni haven't exactly been worth £25m spent, 2 goals between all of them all season!
Ah come on! This is a wind up! How is anything better so far? Im sorry i dont see it!
The Irish Rover
All this slating of Rogers. everyone says he is c--p or he is s--t. so come on who could come in and do the job? instead of giving such a negative post lets see if you can over something worthy?
Personally i think he will be great. just needs time, which i'm sorry to say may not happen because of all you plastic fans out there. What happened to support the manager give him everything. there are only a few real fans around now. very sad.
J.hunt
What planet are you on.br a genius he is a 1 trick pony with his tactics,he decides to play downing at left back maybe thinking how good he will look if this comes off which it aint,week in week out we have most passes and possession cause we pass it back and forth to death with no end product,are lge position improving where 12th cop onto yourself and dont be such a mug.br is useless he just a yes man for fsg,and aint worthy of managing such a big club and he will never manage a big 1 again after we get rid of him.rd
Load of chunder. BR is the right manager for LFC imo but he's not better than Kenny this time last year.......or at the end of last season. We need to get behind Rodgers and hope he achieves at the very least as much as Kenny did last year
cozinoz
30 Nov 2012 16:49:17
Sup eds do you know netin on ricky van wolfswinkel coming to liverpool? I think hed become world class in the prem :P good finisher strong fast...seems good {Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}
30 Nov 2012 16:44:56
hello phillyred, just seen your post there now. It's other level headed supporters like yourself who make this site a joy. Anyway i do think that there are better options out there than sturridge and walcott. I think sturridge is a good finisher but then i cringe when i think of the number of chances that he will cost us through his selfishness. Walcott is quick and has really improved his end product, however i still don't think that it is at the level to propel us up the league like people think. Wither way they will both add something to our attack. For no good reason at all i have this gut feeling about aubameyang (spelling) but i wouldn't place a lot of confidence on instant success with him either. I'm actually not entirely won over by any of the names mentioned on this site (who are realistic) but i'm hoping rodgers has something up his sleeve. I'm asking now because i forgot but who do you fancy ?
derryred
Hey derry how ya doin man, honestly im not in love with either but i think sturridge could be effective on the right of our front three with sterling opposite and suarez in the middle.... Him cutting in on that left foot from the right could cause some headaches for defenses in my opinion... To your other point, I love the site and most of the posters as ive named some but some trolls, crybabies, and constant whiners are ridiculous. Everyone wants instant success like its f'n mcdonalds but usually patience is the key to anything worth having in life...building a nice foundation we are i think, not sure how many americans post on here besides me but I think im realistic and obviously a huge supporter... You wouldnt believe the things i do to watch every game we play as its not always easy to find a broadcast here in philadelphia. Anyway take care buddy.
phillyred
Phillyred self appointed font of all knowledge
30 Nov 2012 16:40:54
ok eds....ive read alot of ppl asking about certain players....and you guys alls i see is i dont know of any interest from liverpool in that player or this player.....so tell me what players you all have heard of interest from liverpool and tell me which ones we have strong links with.
cheers lfcdave
30 Nov 2012 16:39:05
eds just wondering what the situation is with Coates, personally I like him and so do a lot of liverpool supporters, I think he's a good player but never been given a real oppurtunity, does Rodgers want to get rid of him?
30 Nov 2012 16:20:52
Ed02,
Any news on sparky?? {Ed002's Note - Still travelling in his time machine and back on the road again this weekend - so still no updates. Back to the UK on Thursday I think. Maybe the end of next week.}
Would rather sparky played in goal than reina.
Benny baller {Ed002's Note - If he gets Edema.}
30 Nov 2012 15:50:15
There are a lot of players who everyone thinks os going to start playing better when Lucas is back - Gerrard, Allen, Sahin, Hendo, both centre backs whoever they are, and probably a few more. He's a very good player, but he's not the messiah! It will take a few games at least for him to get playing full pelt again - don't put too much expectation on the lad is all I'm saying.
Nick
He is not the Messiah no, but his role is extremely important and hard to do well. We haven't had anyone else capable since Mascherano. But it will take time, yes.
He's not the messiah he's a very good boy!
30 Nov 2012 15:39:44
Hi eds. With us needing a striker in January there is a 24 year old Raul Rusescu currently at Steau Bucharest who has 15 goals this season. I know it's not the best pedigree of league but when funds aren't great, these are the sort of gems we used take a punt on and make them great. Why pay stupid over-inflated January prices when this lad seems to know where the goal is. Well worth a look imo.
Jamie red
30 Nov 2012 15:36:38
Congratulations to Luis Suarez and his award for being the first player to score ten goals this season in the Premier League. However I think it should be eleven when you consider that van Persie was awarded the goal (his 9th) against West Ham United. That should definitely be called an own goal just like Suarez was against Everton.
DM2012
30 Nov 2012 14:53:27
{Ed002's Note - I don't know of FM arriving but it has been raised before. I don't know what Rodgers feelings are regarding Coates, but there is interested in the player from Italy.}
I really hope Sebastian isnt moved on! To me, it will just as important to keep hold of him as someone like Sterling for example!
Brendan and FSG......please dont sell one the best young centre backs around. If the plan is to build for years to come, then Coates has got to be part of that plan hasn't he?
United Kolours Of Bennetton
What you fail to realize is that, in your opinion he is, 'one of the best centre backs around' this is purely subjective unless you are working with him daily on the training ground.
Which believe it or not Rogers is!
So, going off what your saying.......unless I see a player on the training ground everyday I have no right to think he is one of the best Centre backs around?
Seeing said player do well in football matches before and after joining Liverpool, dont count I gather?!
If thats the case, then NO ONE outside of a football club has a right to a judge a player from said football club?!
United Kolours Of Bennetton
30 Nov 2012 14:52:04
I find a lot of the doom and gloom brigade on here NEVER sign there moans, I mean posts. So they are 99% likely to be trolling. Best thing to do is ignore these posts and eventually they will stop posting. Only REAL fans would give the manager and team time. Not be on their backs week in and out. None of us like where we are but this is how it is. We know we will be back in the fight again soon, perhaps not this season? But this season is very good experience for the younger players. We need another summer transfer window before we can start pointing fingers, not January's.
dig me out all you like, I do not care..
Those that agree I thank you.
Lee73
Spot on Lee. Those who don't sign automatically lead me to asume they're on a wind up. How many times do we have to say it, whingers, trolls, sh*t stirrers with no name will carry no weight on here.
dd
Well said lee, great realistic post. I agree 100%.
Meath Red
30 Nov 2012 17:56:58
It's also the majority of "when is Torres coming back" posters too mate,you are totally right.
I know the idea of making this site username only has been floated,but consider that the unnamed posters make up what i would imagine is well over 50% of the traffic,and maybe that would go down if you needed a log in. That said,i would love it,after a defeat or draw i can barely bring myself on this page due to the mind numbing monotonous "Brendan out" "Rafa back" etc etc.
WelshBoyDave
Welshboydave A username sign in would be a better idea all round. Might make the Eds job easier? Also thx meath red & DD.
Lee73
01 Dec 2012 11:18:43
Like i said mate i'm for it. But the Eds are not so it's really obsolete.
WelshBoyDave {Ed002's Note - I think all of the Eds would like to see people sign their posts - and most do on some other team pages.}
30 Nov 2012 14:49:36
With regards to Raheem Sterling. The thing is that he has a contract for another eighteen months so if he refuses to sign a new one I would put him back in the reserves and let him finish his time with Liverpool. Liverpool is (still) too big a club to be blackmailed by any player. We should give Suso more playing time and reward him for his loyalty.
BA01 {Ed002's Note - Should be enough to force Sterling out of the club then.}
Not for eighteen months though!
BA02 {Ed002's Note - So you are suggesting that forcing him to stay is a good idea.}
I wouldn't put him back in the reserves. If you don't think you can keep him, you better sell him high now because as the contract winds down he will be worth less and less. I personally would work hard to resign him.
Lee
If he wants to go, get the best price possible and move on. Plenty more fish in the sea and all that.
cozinoz
30 Nov 2012 14:23:28
Liverpool site: I can't believe we paid out £35million for Carroll. £35million! Madness! Has to be the worst decision the club ever made! Shane.
Chelsea site: I can't believe we paid out £50million for Torres! £50million ! Madness! Has to be the worst decision the club ever made!
Aston Villa site: I can't believe we paid out £18million for Bent! £18million! Madness! Has to be the worst decision the club ever made!
Manchester United site: I can't believe it's not butter!
DM2012
Think Bent was £24m yano; even worse!
I believe it was 18M rising to 24M a figure that I don't believe he will reach.
DM2012
Am I missing something here? I don't get this post?
Lee73
Shane posted his comment yesterday. The second and third comments are my opinion on what the Chelsea and Aston Villa fans would be posting about their big signings. The fourth is two jokes in one - I can't believe it's not butter and Manchester United.
DM2012
30 Nov 2012 14:20:00
Hope people give Lucas enough time to get back to his best before they criticise, im sure his performances will not be at the standard when he first got injured as he has been out nearly a year. But im sure he will soon get back up to speed as the games come thick and fast!
YNWA JFT96 jns
30 Nov 2012 14:08:03
there is no reason for sterling to stay at lfc. we are a great club but we are not the elite anymore we have nothing to offer him. the club is going nowhere fast and you only get one good chance as a footballer. i hope he stays but i would understand if he didnt and that gos for other players aswell. the club is going through a hard time and i dont think the owners really get what we need to do. they just want to save on wages and fill the team with youth. everyone keeps talking about what mess has been left by other mangers but i think thats alot of bullsh*t. br cant be expected to get the football side of things right at times like this. thats why i dont think he is the man for the job. we need abit of a older head that can work with all types of players. br has a one way set up and that is just not working at the moment. the type of players br gets in are not good enough. when your a manger time is not on your side. its all about getting results and they are not coming for him. i can see why fans are starting to get on his back. its not cheap for a season ticket or paying to go to away matchs. fans dont want to see draws,losing games. i know alot of you keep saying give him time but he wont get it and you should know that. this is football. this is how it works. thats why i think we dont have the right owners because they dont understand how it works in football. they are trying to run us like they do in baseball and it wont work. i will always be greatfull to them for saving the club that i love but now they really do need to put more money in for players or sell the club. if we have any chance in moving foward then thats what they need to do or we will lose what good players we got.
sjc
There is no reason for him to stay? what other manager would put that much faith in a 17 year old, however talented he is? as good as he has been, it is pretty evident to me that he is very far from being the finished article, and he needs to be somewhere where he can develop his game as well as acquire some mental toughness. where would he do this, if not liverpool?
There is one reason,game time!I dont know another seventeen year old in the prem. getting as much game time as Raheem and looking at the top clubs and the attackers they already have,I cant see him getting as much game time anywhere else
NAVANRED
As good as he has been, it is pretty evident to me that he is very far from being the finished article, and he needs to be somewhere where he can develop his game as well as acquire some mental toughness. where would he do this, if not liverpool?
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Arsenal for a start. United and Spurs also give their youth a good run , in united's case the youth get a run out in the champions league .. lets not forget Everton and a certain Rooney.
Roy
If he goes to city or Chelsea & does not spark straight away he will fade as they turnover players quickly looking for that instant solution,falcao will probably come in for Torres,Scott Sinclair will probably feature in cup games,lots of money but dented confidence & career regret the Shaun wright Phillips condition
Paisley's genius {Ed002's Note - Chelsea do not turn over players quickly - hence Drogba, Ferreira, Terry, Lampard, Essien, Malouda etc all growing old together.}
30 Nov 2012 13:31:16
Hi Eds is there any chance we could sign cavani in january? {Ed002's Note - Everone was saying a couple of weeks back that he has already signed?}
{Ed002's Note - Everone was saying a couple of weeks back that he has already signed?}
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Yes but he changed his mind because he did n't get the shirt number that he wanted and did not like the food or was it the half time refreshment menu ..
Roy{Ed002's Note - That must be it.}
Yes but how could Cavani get the number 19 when Downing is on the form of his life.
30 Nov 2012 13:33:01
Saw again today an Ed poo-pooing talk of wages. There have been several occassions on which discussing the financial element of contracts has been portrayed as inappropriate in some way by more than one of the Eds. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of this site and the work the Eds do but what's with this attitude to discussing wages? the amount a club offers contractually is a big factor in atracting players who have more than 1 offer on the table. Its also a big part of the financial structures within the squad and the club and as such I see it as a perfectly legitimate area to discuss on a site which primarily discusses transfers. The Eds attitude doesn't really make any sense to me - they seem to be saying that its not appropriate to discuss contractual offers on a transfer site? Why shouldn't we discuss wages? We contribute to them! I don't believe it should free for all denouncing players earnings, I for one congratulate anyone who makes what they do, good luck to them - but I don't believe it should be somehow taboo to talk wages when relevent to a transfer or contractual situation concerning a current player. Like it or not players wages are a very important issue in any football club and a very important part of transfers. Enlighten me as to why we shouldn't be discussing what may or not be on the table for Sterling or any other player.
Biscanifyoucan {Ed002's Note - It is because the financial aspects are rarely understood by the posters and it clutters the site up with erroneous dross. Whilst examples may be used if needs be, guessing at what the club are going to offer Sterling when the do make an offer is futile and pointless. Misinformation could also lead to accusations of greed and certain posters spewing forth blather about the child.}
I think that is a pretty good reason not to discuss wages
derryred
30 Nov 2012 13:31:44
If Suarez is King Kenny who do we need to be Ian Rush?
Answer that correctly and BR will bring greatness back
We don't just need a good goalscorer, but one with a sweet moustache. Don't let us down brendan.
derryred
Torres 2007 {Ed002's Note -
30 Nov 2012 13:00:35
Sterling and other youth will go.Sad fact is agents turn heads.And we can hardly point to how well were doing and ask for patience.Cos people today want it all-now
I think panic-mongers like you are what turn heads because players have easy access to the internet and do start to feel unappreciated. All we can really do is keep supporting in a positive way and stop draeing attention to negative crap.
I would like them to play shelvey and try to win a game. it seems to to me that allen sahin henderson r good for ties.
Offer him a good deal and lovely if he signs , if not trade him for a player or sell him for cash , move onwards and upwards , players come and go
Such insight, gone predict the lotto and i'll believe you
derryred
2nd poster your a quarter wit never mind half wit.Didnt say never appreciated him.Are you seriously believing Sterling goes oh-internet lad says i may go.I ll fook off then,but ill tell City/whoever-just match what Lfc where offering cos i wana rub in how unappreciated i felt off that poster-what a k ob! And smart Irish guy-Did Owen,Rush,Keegan,Mcmanamans heads not get turned?-Brainwashed mugs
30 Nov 2012 12:52:17
People keep saying play Sahin WHY/ he was carp since the Derby.Wants time,lightweight
Thank you!...fnally someone can see he is not strong enough...cant tackle...very slow
and is just a good passer of the ball
This guy was world class when playing Germany, but agree he has been disappointing for many games.
We should stick with though as if he can regain his form as Germany, then he will be great for us
He an attacking midfielder who can pass well and that is what we need when lucasgets back you willseehis value
Crikey, do people never learn? Not only is he adapting to a new club and a new league, he's also coming back from a long term injury but you guys want to judge him harshly after the huge total of 11 appearances for the club! He's also knocked in three goals. I think we'll see better from him as he gradually improves over the season. We'll see the benefit of that if he ends up staying but if not it does call into question the sense of paying out quite a lot for a loan of a player who will probably take at least half a season to adapt and get his form.
Biscanifyoucan
30 Nov 2012 12:29:56
Just wanted to stir the hornets nest for a bit of Friday fun... I see that the whiners and whingers are still very prevolent on this site ! It's a wonder that the ed's can keep a level head and have not become raving ranting lunatics (respect to you all) ! I am a 30 year long pool supporter through thick and thin so please don't anyone take this the wrong way ! All the negative comments about BR being in "way over his head" are disingenuous and just downright disrespectful ! The fact is that the job he has undertaken is a poison challice and I hope he sticks it out so he can stick two fingers up at the armchair manic depressives who seem to have nothing else going in their lives ! This club has been in a mess for a while now and to suggest that there is some sort of mythical level that we should be at by right is ludicrous ! BR is doing the best he can with what he's got ! Just as the saying goes You can't polish a penguin but you can roll it in glitter, which is what he's trying to do with the talented youngsters. However mistakes have been made but give the guy a break and judge him when he's hopefully shiped out the players he doesn't rate and starts getting the one's he does. If we had a top striker maybe we would have finished off the spuds in that second half. Let's hope that the powers that be see that too and back their man to get a real poacher which have lacked for too many years now. I for one want BR to succeed and will support him until the end because he is in charge of the team I love. Some supporters need to look at all the facts and think about who it is at the club they are really angry with. BR is the lightning rod but he is by no means 100% responsible for where we are right now. Heres to a soton spanking and hearing the KOP singing loud and proud for the team.... Tobiwan... PS I hope we see Lucas back, it will be like a new signing !
30 Nov 2012 12:43:32
here here well said la!
Please could you translate the above into English. Please note this is a ˜banter' site. People state their views, they say what they think and if you dont like them just ignore them ... dont get annoyed - its all about peoples opinions - simple.
The whole situation is not helped with the ridiculous performance of Liverpool supprter Tony Evans of The Times when reviewing the Sports pages on Breakfast show this morning. Very bitter and hysterical as per usual.
But when the banter becomes overly dramatic with no substance other than the faint whiff of a hangover and blatant rubbish then maybe it is a fair point to bring up-simple ....
Whats not english about it, quite easy to read. Maybe its the lack of text-spelling
And thats his opinion which like others he is entitled to you mong
Who is the anonymous poster who claims to need a translation but then goes on to imply that not only did he understand the post but he disagrees with it somehow because people are on here to express opinions? Yeah DUH! Like the poster was expressing HIS opinion? Really some people...There seems to be 2 types on this site, those that think its useful to constantly snipe, sometimes in a really disrespectful way toward the club, its players and its coaching staff and the rest of us who maintain our support for the club through thick and thin. The arrogance of denouncing BR in the way that he has been is astounding. Can people just accept that the squad as it is does not have enough quality and strength in depth to challenge? It will take 2/3 transfer windows to get it closer to where it needs to be. There is no quick fix. These are blinking FACTS! Accept reality, have a bit of bloody patience and stop complaining! And for the record I'll get annoyed if I want to.
Biscanifyoucan
I agree, the problems with Liverpool FC go further back than known, possibly as far as the 80's. As for present day, we are having to do the best with what we have. Nothing to do with BR. We hope FSG put up some reasonable transfer money this jan. Personally I think FSG are doing a good job, was never going to change overnight, and try bringing in investment during a worldwide recession. Next summer will be key, as losses will be minimal. Eds am I on the right track here? Or taking BS?
Lee73 {Ed002's Note - I have explained repeatedly about the support given by FSG.}
Well posted lad. As a long time South african die hard supporter i am a bit embarrased by some of the posts on here. Come on guys does it matter if its Rodgers, Dalglish, Mourinho or even frikken God in charge surely our love of the team should drive us to support our guys in Red. Yes we have some avarage players on the books but lets give Rodgers time to show us what he can do and no 4 months is not time. I also get frustrated and depressed when we lose but i can honestly say i am enjoying the way we are playing. So in short my fellow reds from all over the world SUPPORT AND CHEER OUR PLAYERS IN RED. YNWA
I don't think anyone disagrees with banter. The problem is that you get these imbeciles who start launching these personal attacks on fsg, br, downing, cole, henderson and then if anybody makes a mistake or plays a bad game they get abuse too. Then much of the time it is just based on no facts. For example today people are claiming that liverpool is poor, so we will lose all of our promising young players. This is based on a rumour, that sterling is holding out for a ridiculous sum of money, which has already been rubbished by the player.
derryred
So only armchair supporters moan about LFC and the manager and the players the people who go to the game never moan ? I am an armchair fan mate have only been once since 1989 but went every week before the horror that I watched happen in 1989 I try not moan about our club but I listen to mate who go every home and away game in work and they moan as much as armchair fans so dont imply mate that it is only armchair fans going to the game does not make you a expert in LFC because a very large number of fans have never kicked a ball in their lives
All supporters moan when their team plays crap. It's happened throughout the history of the game, after matches, in the pubs. The difference is we're ok, bright and hopeful the day after and we re going to win the league again
30 Nov 2012 12:28:54
sterling will be first of many of promising young crop to move.Yes greed is large part(hardly think saying it in media helps situ) But fact is were very poor.Agents will turn their heads,and all those banging on about a good future need to realise.No youngster 0r their agents gona wait for what may or may not develop.
If this game (or more so it's players) becomes soley reliant on money & who's going to pay the most, then logically speaking how can there be supporters? For example: If I'm paying a plumber for services, that means there is no relationship. Geddit?
dd
I am not sure..But kids like sterling and suso decides to move end of this year..then we could stop this page..there is no more defending.
30 Nov 2012 12:25:31
Loads other fans,oundits,journsos,and some of our fans see it like it is=without Suarez and at times Stevie were finished.Sad but true.decidedly average.
Not sure who you're shouting at fella? What exactly is it you're trying to communicate & what answer are you looking for?
30 Nov 2012 11:54:22
Would Abel Hernandez be of interest? Quick and Uruguayan so suerez link could help.
Might be a hard question for you to answer but do you know if there is strong interest in either bony or augbuyum (spelling) from Gabon? Just as a fan they would be my preferred over Hooper, sturridge or Walcott
Sam from aus {Ed002's Note - All of these have been dealt with, please try the search function.}
30 Nov 2012 12:25:46
Why in your opinion would bony or augbuyum (spelling) be any better than walcott or sturridge??
Because they're foreign? Theres nothing to indicate that they would succeed in the premier league.
Suarez wasnt from the premier league! aguero wasnt from the premier league! your a damn fool most of the premier leagues best players didnt start out in the EPL. there is far greater talent out there for more reasonable prices! would much rather PEA from st etinne (spelling) than sturridge when he is probably cheaper, has been scoring more goals.
You English are so naive in how you think the epl is so great, there is just as good talent, if not BETTER in Spain, France, Germany and Netherlands
I think that he is making the point that just because the players have exotic names doesn't mean that they'll succeed. Like sturridge is getting a lot of unfair abuse, yes he is greedy but not nearly as bad as some on here are suggesting.
derryred
30 Nov 2012 11:30:04
Hi Eds do you know any of liverpools transfer targets if so plz let us know thanx {Ed002's Note - Please read the posts.}
30 Nov 2012 11:18:35
Rodgers is set to swoop again to swansea, for a player he beat us to before. that Player is Rory Donnely who rodgers rates highly {Ed002's Note -
30 Nov 2012 11:00:21
Hi eds.
This is mainly a question to other fans on the site, I am curious as to why a considerbale number are supporting the idea of signing players like zarate and remy. Neither has done anyhting of lat to justify a move imo, and I am simply curious of eds/posters view.
Thanks. {Ed002's Note - I agree it is strange. I put it down to a desparation to see money spent without caring who the club buy.}
Post signed - Puzzled Red
Ed002, I'd say say it's more desperation to see some sort of support for Suarez as opposed to just seeing money spent by the club - Remy was very effective last season, he's not as good this year but with a lower cost is he worth the gamble? After all, with the likes of Yesil, Morgan etc not yet ready then what options do we have?
Not all of us just want to see the club spend money just to get new names in on the team sheet, if all of us on here wanted that we'd support City or Chelsea.
JFT 96
JP {Ed002's Note - If you take Remy as an example (a) He is playing poorly; (b) There has been no approach to Marseille by Liverpool; (c) He could be a £10M (or whatever) risk; (d) He has said he wants to play for a CL team. It does not strike me as a way forward.}
30 Nov 2012 11:39:27
Quite why some on here would prefer Zarate and Remy over say Walcott and Sturridge is beyond me. I can only put it down to the fact that they're foreign.
Kev79
Kev, as much as people are divided over Walcott and Sturridge, I think they'd both definitely improve our attack.
If, at the end of the transfer window, we end up with either one of them I wouldn't be upset at all - if Rodgers can drill that selfish streak out of Sturridge we could actually get a top player for decent money.
JFT 96
JP
30 Nov 2012 12:39:55
Totally agree JP. Either one of Walcott or Sturridge or both would really add to our squad imo. Maybe some would be more drawn to them if they were called Walcottio and Sturridgeinho.
I think its the fifa, computer games mentallity that if they're uruguayan or argentnian they're rated ten times better than they are. Zarate is actually terrible.
I know people look at the likes of downing and carroll and assume that if go after an english player that it must be doom and gloom but there are some very talented young english players and imo Walcott and Sturridge are two of these.
Kev79
30 Nov 2012 10:58:36
The Steven Gerrard Debate...
After hearing numerous friends, fans, journalists and reading posts on here in regards to Stevie losing it, I have to say I did agree with them.... Until this morning. And let me explain why.
Ossie Ardiles commented that the only players fit to wear our shirt were Luis and Stevie, which I thought was strange given performances from other younger players this year. But then I started to really look at it. We have got a team half full of 'potential' and half full of 'dead wood' (not my words). Whereas before Stevie could have a few normal games and not doing anything phenomenal it was n't really noticed as we had other players that stepped up to the mark. Be it Kuyt, Bellamy, Alonso, Maxi or anyone else who used to play for us and scored goals or put a shift in, now who do we have apart from Suarez. I have yet to see (agger and skrtel aside) anyone who will put themselves and body on line and step up. This is the reason Stevie looks so bad (normal) in our team. And before the boo boys get on my back I do realise his powers are waning and yes he has n' been on top form for past few seasons, but i also realise that we have been on the slide for that whole time.
Now im not saying he should be picked every game nor do I feel he merits it, my point is that the rot has been set in for years at this club and its got sod all to do with Stevie. Its about time some of these 'Great Pretenders' to the throne stepped up and took some burden off the poor fella. It must be great taking the accolades when he saves us and then hiding behind him when we lose. Maybe he has got too much influence as has been said. Well the way I see it the only way to stop that is to take his place. And as bad as he is, NOT ONE PLAYER has deserved it. YET.
Now read my posts from earlier this year. I said Im prepared to write this year off for progress. And I still am. Its a clean slate and I back the manager and board in what they are doing. Does nt mean im happy about certain results, team picks or performances. But thats par for the course as a fan. But please lets really look at the squads for past few years. They have got progressively worse. Maybe if we get a few decent players in Jan who can front up maybe we can actually see Stevie playing with a smile on his face again and not taking all the shi7e off you lot.
SHORT MEMORIES THE LOT OF YOU.
TAFFYTEL
Ex Spurs player sticking the boot in to gain favour with Spurs fans and your naive enough to fall for it!!
kidmillions
Great post Taffytel. In the past we used to blood youngsters slowly, maybe one at a time, not the amount we are doing now and that shows on the players capable of doing what is needed.
Keith
Just cos he's been fantastic in the past doesn't mean we should still be playing him when he shows no interest.
If it were any other midfield player we would be calling for them to be dropped, Hendo, Sahin etc
We don't play any worse without him, can't wait until Lucas is back, this will take the pressure off Allen and other midfielders, as it is, Gerrard adds to the pressure these younger players are under. The whole team plays like a team without him, whereas with him they are all too conscious of any mistakes they make.
Reina is also scared of Gerrard, when he made a mistake on Wednesday Pepe did nothing, ten minutes later someone else made a mistake and Pepe was all over them. Have a look tomorrow and see it happen again, nobody has the balls to get stuck in to him.
Like Carra, his days are numbered and he should only be a part timer now, this may do him a lot of good, who knows.
Big Bill
Taffy never defended him cause he been fantastic in the past. what he said was there was no other players stepping up to the mark and that our squad has got worse and worse
Funny OA saying that about SG, I think this season is the worse I've seen him in a Liverpool shirt. Constantly giving the ball away,then just trudging off half arsed.
Lee73
30 Nov 2012 10:44:48
BR is making us a laughing stock.
3 points above relegation zone approaching mid-season. Has everyone been takin in by the talk and channel 5 circus show
Everyone ranting and raving how good BR is..........is he really! Just don't see it.
Fed-up with same comments.....'if we scored we'd be up challenging'.
If the incompetent transfer policy was better maybe we might be up there. Joe Allen....what a terrible player...no attacking qualities what so ever.
Very little money to spend and looking at spending that money on un-proven strikers like Borini,....Sturridge etc......
Buy a proven goal scorer please. Look what Van Persie done for Utd.
Hold extra shooting coaching for all the midfield. Why can't they score? No good?
Thanks for reading this folks
Rodgers is a very average manager with above average chat. Ipso facto, the style of an auto salesman.
Boston Red
I think he is way over he's head this job is 5 years to early for him.
I'm sorry but BR WILL prove all the doubters wrong. I like his philosophy on football and gets his team to play the way football should be played. This is a work in progress. He has only been in the job a few months so lets judge him after a couple of years. Yes I said years because with the transfer policy as it is we will not be seeing any world class players bought, we will have to manufacture them.
With BR's own admition it is going to take 3 or 4 transfer windows before he gets a team that will be his and be able to play his brand of football.
In regards to Joe Allen, even hough he has not played well of late, I agree, he is playing out of position. Once Lucas returns Allen will be pushed further forward where he will have more influence on games.
We have a lot of players to move on who are not good enough who BR did not buy, Downing, Cole to name a couple.
We have played some of the best football I have seen us play in years this season. If we had someone who could score we would be a lot higher up the table.
January needs to be a good window for us in terms of signing at least one goalscoring threat.
Rome wasn't built in a day, patience is a virtue etc etc etc.........
A very optimistic red.
MUSHROOM
30 Nov 2012 12:10:02
Terrible post by another unamed poster who probably isn't even a Liverpool fan. Sturridge unproven....are you sure? Who in your opinion should be the striker that Liverpool sign then?
Borini is a young Italian international who will fight for the team and if he hadn't picked up that bad injury I'm sure would had added at least a couple more goals so far .
Joe Allen will become a fantastic player for Liverpool for years to come.
As for the manager all I'm going to say is, and I'm not making comparisons, in 1988 man utd went into a cup tie with norwich city. It had been 18 months or so since alex ferguson had taken over as manager and it hadn't been an easy run of games at that point and the chairman, with sections of fans in out cry, had made it known that if utd lost that game that the manager was going. Mark Robbins scored the winner, utd won and ferguson kept his job and as they say the rest is history.
That proves to me the fine line of success and failiure. At some point we're going to have to stick by a manager and back him. I genuinly believe that Rodgers could achieve great things with Liverpool if given the time and backing. We can't just keep chopping and changing managers every 6 months. Everytime a new manager starts everyone has to start again.
If it were up to you and you kicked rodgers out now who who you appoint who's readily available and that could instantly do a better job?
I look forward to hearing on who your new striker and new manager would be......
mikehoopersgloves
Very true about his job being on the line but it was actually 1990 when this happened, 4 yrs after he got the job. They won the fa cup that year. Lee Martin scored the winner in the replay that saved ferguson his job and started the dynasty that is Man United. How times have changed tho that wining an fa cup and champions league can't even guarantee a manager time in a job.. Lee Martin, u have alot to answer for.. MonaghanRed
30 Nov 2012 18:08:06
Boston Red do you really think adding Ipso Facto adds any sort of credence to your post? You are obviously entitled to your opinion but Rodgers is far from an average manager. Mick Mcarthy is an average manager,not Brendan.
WelshBoyDave
Facts show that no manager gets a couple of years before they're judged.
If you think Rodgers will get that then you are living in a time warp.
If the current results trend continues he won't be in the job next season.
Marcus Aurelius
Another Terrible post by another unamed poster who probably isn't even a Liverpool fan!
THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Lee73
30 Nov 2012 10:01:17
The worst away seats in the Prem League - WHL South Stand Upper stuck behind that effin Police Tower !?
Nice view of two bizzies drinking tea in the control room.
Giraffe Neck
Surely better than the sight of your team LOSING AGAIN !!!!
Much love
But fortunately with an excellent view of Gareth Bale's FA Cup ears getting in the way of that attempted off-the-line-clearance.
And tell your local council to plug the street chrissy lights on will u !?
Giraffe Neck
Yeah you lot r tearing up the premiership this year. all say if we lost suarez were f--ked if u lose bale good luck.
Oh,you didnt see old butterfingers Reina running across the goal the wrong way from Bales free kick...shame!
30 Nov 2012 10:21:44
Liverpool do not need a player like cardozo, he is an aging player and isn't what Liverpool want. Still believe liverpool need to sign mertins and Demba Ba is they are to stand any chance of scoring goals {Ed002's Note -
29+ year old players despite contrary belief, can still score goals. Oscar, Huntelaar or whoever. Not that i much care about who comes in, until they come in that is. I'm not expecting anything beyond Daniel Sturridge and i'm expecting him at an overly expensive price.
Expect very little and if you get it, eH no skin, if you get more then rejoice and celebrate. :) We aren't even going to compete in the transfer market any more, we are going to buy others cast offs and try and salvage players who have almost died in Chelsea's reserves or on the subs bench through lack of football.
Either that or we will buy Assadi's, take Sahin out of the transfer dealings and you'll not have recognised any of the in coming players 2 seasons ago.
Kenny Dalglish was nearly 28 when he joined LFC from Celtic!!!
I thought Dalglish was 26 when we signed him in '77? He was born in '51.
MUSHROOM
Think you will find he was 27 and half
Think youll find he has the curious case of benjamin button, and was 43.
Benny baller
30 Nov 2012 10:20:45
Just a few quick question for you eds
1) Was Kenny Dalglish always seen as a temporary solution as manager by FSG? (I always thought they wanted a young manager a la Rodgers)
2) If yes, why was somebody who they knew was temporary been given so much to spend?
Sorry to go back in time, I was just a little curious.
Thanks, AZ {Ed002's Note - No, he was given the job permanently.}
{Ed002's Note - No, he was given the job permanently.}
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In January 2011 he was appointed as caretaker manager, at the time as far as I remember the idea was for Kenny to steady the ship and get in a young manager at the end of the season. But his good results and the way he lifted the team , convinced FSG to give him the 3 year contract at the end of that season.
Roy
Henry said Kenny was never seen as a long term manager and history also says so.
Thunderlieger
30 Nov 2012 10:17:04
Does anyone know how Martin Kelly is doing? When will he be back in the mix? Surely once he and Lucas are back we should be looking a bit stronger
Yvonne {Ed002's Note - Kelly will not be back before the Spring.}
30 Nov 2012 10:12:01
Why is suso not playing ? Why is Sahin not playing? I only raise this issue as we NO creativity in the middle of the park.
Why is Downing playing at R/B and very badly, Why is Joe allen playing D/M role and been over-run every week .
Our last two games have been terrible and I am sick of BR throwing superlatives around like an X-Factor judge ! The team were " immense " " superb " " magnificent " No they weren't, they were mediocre at best, and like the x-factor, which has mediocrity as its bench mark we as one of the best clubs in the world should not!
Stop playing players out of position and play the good creative ones in the right role,
Rocket science ? Erm....no
DJC
I personally think that Suso is being rested as Rodgers doesn't want to over-use the younger players. Sterling will be the next in line and I think that he is only keeping his place until he signs (or doesn't) sign a new contract. Rodgers has already stated that the youngsters would be rested at certain times.
DM2012
Sahins been carp that answers bit on him
Reina is carp,why was he playing?
I don't think sahin is quick enough, strong or solid enough to be a holding midfielder. In my opinion he should play farther forward so he can get into the box like he was doing in the first few games. I think suso is better when he comes off the bench because he tends drifts out of games in the second half, not a criticism, he is a great wee player.
derryred
30 Nov 2012 10:10:42
Oh my god, a lot of people worrying about sterling signing a contract again.....this has been dealt with over n over again.... He has said he will sign a contract when he's 18 years old.....if by the off chance he does go then so what! Who cares, it would show he doesn't want to play for us n we don't need players like that....a lot of Liverpool fans need to get a grip on reality and stop believing every little rumour they read or hear....
Ack17
30 Nov 2012 09:36:50
HI! EDS: Any truth in the rumour your going to be dishing out yellow cards to posters with 3 negative posts in a week and and straight reds to posters with more than 3 negative posts in a day. "Will there be anybody left?" ;)
kidmillions {Ed002's Note - We constantly cleanse the site Kidmillions.}
How bout a positive and negative banter page?
30 nov 2012 09:30:36
darren bent to liverpool 20million and andy carroll
Have you not heard of Benteke? Centre forward like Carroll and Bent but less expensive, younger more mobile, lots of potential. No wonder Villa don't want or need Bent and what would they want Carroll for?
kidmillions
Darren bent to liverpool 20million and andy carroll
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This is a joke I guess, forget about the Andy Carroll part , Bent is no longer worth 20m , unless Andy's value is in the negative ..
Roy
30 Nov 2012 09:29:58
morning ed002
as the situation with sterling changed or do you still expect him to sign a new contract...brendan rodgers sosnt seem as confident as before or i may be just panicing
thanks
bigW {Ed002's Note - I don't know of anything that has changed.}
I think Sterling will sign a new deal in the end, but Liverpool will have to pay a record amount to an 18 year old as he has you by the balls. He has become a regular due to you having a weak squad so he will want the same type of wages players like Downing will be getting. Will Liverpool pay him £70k a week? I think they will have to as there will be clubs waiting to offer him that amount to steal him away from the club. I think Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs will want him and being a London lad he may well want to move back there one day.
Disney!
Whatever he does I don't believe that any other club would be stupid enough to pay Sterling more than 30,000 a week. We have all seen how 'responsible' he is in everyday life. It's time that somebody took control of his money and other things. Mum seems to have a lot to say but does little to help him.
Andrew Naam
30 Nov 2012 09:17:46
Slighly worried over the Sterling affair and I think we are in a sticky situation. Whilst I agree the Club should not be held to ransom over wage demands, I see, if the rumours are true, why Raheem wants more cash. When he sees the likes of Cole on 90K doing nothing he will obviously be thinking" hang on a second, I'm worth more than this." So, not only do City, Chelsea etc hold the purse strings, they can also offer him Silverwear, to which, I think we are a long way off. Personally I think this is poor management from LFC as more effort should have been done to get rid of the likes of Cole, knowing that Sterling, Suso were breaking into the first team. After all, the owners knew this was going to happen due to their lack of support in the Summer..
I know we were given funds to buy Caroll etc but we blew it and unlike Chelsea we cannot afford to just write the transfers off and go back in for more big players the following season. Again, shows lack of stategy and vision from the top.
Cole has been getting a pay rise with every new contract for the last 10-15 years he's bound to be on a good wage ( I don't agree with paying cole so much either) but the club can't force him out. If he won't go then he won't go. Stirling is 17 he should be greatfull to be playing so many games. Most Liverpool players start on small wages and then discuss a pay rise when new contract talk starts. Cole is an exception because hodgson thought he was worth it. Stirling should just sign the 20k contract or what ever it is and prove to the club he's worth more over the next season and a half, if he is then give him another 10k if not then sell. He's 17, he needs to stay grounded. When I was 17 I was earning £130 a week printing posters. You don't prove your worth 40 k over 15 games, you prove it over 1-2 seasons.
Eric the red
30 Nov 2012 13:52:56
I 100% agree Eric, he's only just broken into the first team and should prove his worth with his salary reflecting this. But, football has changed and if we do not sign this guy Spurs, City or Chelsea will snap him up. We are not United or Chelsea both would have the confidence to say stay and you'll win trophies. We cannot offer him success at this moment in time !
As for Cole, it's been known for a long time that he's the real deal. He came in under Hodgson on a big wage and his performances have not justified his salary.
If Sterling goes, it shows LFC will stand it's ground along with the message that we can't compete.
I've watched the reds for 30 years and this is one of the weakest sides I've seen. Opposing teams do not look at our team sheet or come to Anfield and think S&&t.
I believe on Rogers and his philosophy and I'll be there cheering the team on come 3pm in Saturday ..
30 Nov 2012 09:08:36
As the days tick by and we enter the next transfer window looking for a striker, but struggling for cash, I still can't believe we paid out £35million for Carroll. £35million! Madness! Has to be the worst decision the club ever made.
-Shane.
Dont worry..hold on mate....you will hear some more terrible decision soon...
Spurs manager Harry Redknapp offered £27m to Newcastle for Carroll only days earlier before they accepted £35m from Liverpool.
Couldnt agree enough shane. at that point we were still a topish 4 club and could have attracted llorente or huntelaar even falcao then. any club would have taken £35 mill for their top player.
30 Nov 2012 09:04:52
Morning Eds and Reds.
short article well worth a read:
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football /teams/liverpool/9712779/Liverpool-manager-Brendan -Rodgers-has-the-right-idea-but-the -wrong-players.html
Keep the faith. We'll get there.
BigBadben
Fantastic article
30 Nov 2012 08:49:11
I'm so excited...... Only 3 more Chelsea managers til Xmas.
Dirks Engine Room
30 Nov 2012 07:26:07
Hi Reds, In my opinion, the possible transfers wil be wilfried bony for 8m and walcott for 9m. While bent and sturridge wil come in on loan wit an option to buy. And also joe cole and downing wil be allowed to leave to compensate the transfers. Henderson wil be given chance to improve. These transfers r possible.
Sahin is already in on loan, we can only loan one other player, those pesky rules declare only two loan signings at any one time. 2 loans.
Sahin, Sturridge and Bent would equal three loan signings, and that can't happen, not at once.
Bony..wont come to us...he wants chlesea move..
if we have cash upto 10 mil for a striker..should go for remy..2 reaosn..
his form is poor..so no better team than liverpool will bid him right now..
8 mill is an excellent price for speedstar...his pace is so important on right side which we missed from bellammy..
if we have spent 11 mil on un proven boroni.8 mill for remy is a steal..
he is not world star neither he is a goal scoring machine.
but he is cheap young and skillfull player..
we wont buy a goal scoring machine with 8 mill anytime..
30 Nov 2012 13:00:18
Yes lets sign a striker because they're in terrible form and don't score goals like Remy! That will sort out our problems!! Jeeeez
Kev79
30 Nov 2012 07:25:39
It is much more important to be effective rather than efficient eg although all this passing may be good to watch (at times), it should only be the means by which we score goals. Hopefully the addition of some quality firepower in Jan will complete BRs new structure and we will start seeing results.
Lets hope that fsg give BR the money to stop him having to talk (and talk) about how efficiently we have drawn or lost games!
30 Nov 2012 06:20:45
Liverpool are looking at; Jack Butland, Stefan de Vrij, Jordy Clasie, Tom Ince, Dries Mertens, Nathan Redmond, Wilfried Bony and Klaas-Jan Huntelaar.
Who found the cheque book again?!.
Think mertens would be a quality signing.
Yea look at and miss out on again! Probably to emmm Spurs
30 Nov 2012 06:04:15
what planet are some of you on. br has done nothing since being at the club. apart from bad results and you are saying give him time. time for what. if any of you think he will turn lfc around you must be off your head . this manger needs to be shown the door asap. he dont have a clue. there is no way that he is the man for the job. he is scared of the big players we have. stevie g is walking all over him.
He hasn't set the world alight but the club seems to have a plan on trying not to spend money and bring youth through.
What other manager would come into our already weak squad be given very little money and make a difference??
So what do you suggest then? We have got rid of Hodgson, Dalglish and now get rid of Rodgers all in space of a couple of seasons? To do what? Get who? Another manager to come in, be mid table and get the sack again withing 6 months? Going to get us nowhere as soon as us fans actually realise at this moment in time mid table is about par for our standards the better! Give him time to build over a couple of seasons and only then if it doesnt work out show him the door or we will forever be a mid table team changing managers every 6 months.
Rob
To bad you did not eave a name.... so u can be shamed when BR has his type of players and improves the squad.
trini_red
What planet are we on? how about planet realistic you person....BR has taken on a very difficult job at Liverpool, He is cleaning up the mess that Hodgson and dalglish left in their wakes and if it takes him a few seasons to get things right then he needs to be given the time. what did you expect would happen? we would win the league first season?
Do everyone a favour and go support a different team because Liverpool have enough problems without half arsed fans like you.
Boozley
Good statement...Yes indeed BR is cleaning hp the mess that was created by Roy and KK..
but whose gonna clean the mess created by BR??
I wont be shamed because he wont get the time. if he gets the time i would love him to prove me and alot of fans wrong. i dont want us to keep changeing mangers but i think it is to soon for hm at a club that has all the crap going on. why should i go and support someone else. i have a right to say what i think just because you dont agree. you should know by now mangers dont get tme. maybe you dont understand that. that is the way football works. get results or your gone.
30 Nov 2012 05:45:14
Eds is Lucas in contention for tomorrows game against southampton? Or do you expect him to start on the bench? {Ed002's Note - I have no expectations about it at all. The medical team will ensure any risks are minimised, so when he does get a chance it will likely be from the bench.}
30 Nov 2012 04:01:08
Any Christmas wishes guys? Yevhen Konoplyanka & Andriy Yarmolenko would be my dream signings.
Why, are you playing scrabble for Christmas?
Nick
Add Henrikh Mkhitaryan,Dries Mertens, Walcott, Auba or Hunterlaar to your 2 suggestion and we are instantly better attacking wise
trini_red
Any sheik will do
30 Nov 2012 02:54:46
Walcott's agents in talks with BR. He wants 100,000 pounds a week and the August section in the 2013 LFC calendar, lol.
Offer him 50k and every month in the calendar. Bargain :-)
Simon
30 Nov 2012 01:57:24
Dear Mr Rodgers.
So its our lack of penalties that cost us the Spurs game.
May I suggest a lack of performance thus far this season.
3 wins from 14, 7 draws, 4 losses.
That looks pretty cr*p to me.
Go on be man enough and admit the fact that you are not doing soo well.
Your team are average, understaffed, and very 'thin' in capabilities and skills.
Blame rests with you Mr Rodgers, no one else.
You are fast becoming another sniveling, blame apportioning twit.
Or was that in your 100page plan.
You lack experience.
F- Failing Grade.
Sorry - only thing wrong with the post is you missed out the name Benitez with your description.
All 3 managers since the waiter has gone have been trying to right the mess he left us in.
Give the man a chance - he MAY get it right.
John B
The rpely is the worst i have ever read..
tell me in simple sentence...which mess did benitez left?
aeging squad?
when benitez left the average squad was 25-26
gerrard, torres, riera, babel, kuyt, mascherano, lucas reina agger were younger not older...and they were world class player...
yes he did have some stuppid players like ngog, veronin, el-zhar..who were on high wages..
they were actaully never first team players and they were bought a 0 mill...
he has only spent 2 signings which were over paid in 5 yeras..
keane and aqualini..
KK have overtaken that in one season...
benitez was the last man who took us in the CL..
and if this trend continues..he would be the last man for another 5 more years...
When Rafa was there we won the champ league got to another final challenged for the title and got champ league year in year out.... nuff said
Only people with bit of knowledge knows in what mess rafa left us. half of this team wanted out because of him. yes he got us in cl but it was not his team remember? he always gets credit for someone else team like inter maybe chavski now. that is the reason why he would never touch mid table team to make them great
Yes you are right about all that but your Rafa has gone to Chelsea now how do you like him now
^ It's a job! do you like your job? he waited for a call off the Red's it never came! so he should retire till the oppertunity came again? i still love Rafa! only two previous manager's have done what he did taking us to two European cup final's! Sir Bob Paisley Sir Joe Fagan are the only manager's to do that before Rafa! Plus he's a staunch Red that love's the city and the fan's!
Shame the poster above this isn't aware.
30 Nov 2012 01:52:22
Reading through the post's, You can see how much passion we all have for this club! Whether we are having a moan, being optimistic or giving our opinions on how things should be done, we all are aching for this club to be back where we belong. Back amongst the greats showing that we can take on the world once again.
Lets all get behind the manager and all the players as these are the times the club needs us the most! Good times will come!
When you walk through the storm, hold your head up high, because no matter what, you should be proud to be a Liverpool supporter. And i believe we have the best supporters in the world!
Red Lee, YNWA
30 Nov 2012 01:49:37
Boot room blarney- i agree with Boysie Reds post earlier,i want lfc to succeed like all of u ,we need to be patient and i think throwing money at the problem is not the answer and anyway where did that get us yes it got us back to basics and i am proud at how everyone at lfc are working with youth and trying them out ,we may of never seen the likes of sterling ,suso ,wisdom get regular games if we had got half a dozen average players for millions and still nothing then what ?ok say we got falcoa for example and he got injured with a tear of cruciate we would have another player on huge wages doing nothing .the best way for our club is the way we are going keep investin in youth ,build a bigger stadium,buy good keen players who would give all to our club for bargain prices ,we found hypia for 2 and half million and he became legend ,gerrard , carragher 2 more legends and they were youth,our club just cannot compete financially with a few teams now in the prem so we have to do it this way and i am more excited that we will have other teams looking envious of our way forward ,look at Arsenal their manager has been slated but he continues to get bargain buys and mainly youngsters and get them playing without breaking wage structure ,imagine we lost all our games and got relegated and played poorly in the championship with plastic support ers gone to man city or chelski or the next team to spend lots of dosh,low sponsorship no stadium as we wouldnt need it anymore ,players who were from div i and 2 and lower reaches of championship ,no academy less staff no more Europe and then a manager comes in decides to get academy up and running again invests in youth ,buys bargains gets excellent scouts builds the club piece by piece and takes us to the premier league within 2 years and then on to top 6 in five years and we love our manager love our players love our loyal supporters ,love our academy ,well good news everyone we have got good players and we are looking for bargains we have a great academy brilliant youth a good manager and a great backroom team we are in prem league and we will get stronger
Youth wont wait,they ll p ss off elsewhere,heads turned by agents ala Sterling saga
30 Nov 2012 01:30:56
hi all.
this Gerrard issue is mad. many will disagree with me, and i know his form has not been the best but, from what i see he seems to be worried about protecting the back four and the whole team. maybe he see's Allen (please remember this is not his normal playing role, and Stevie knows this) struggling a little at the moment? and from what i can see he looks like he has the weight of the team on his shoulders, trying to protect the his team, and in doing so his game is effected hence the lack of performances we've all come to expect. Maybe once Lucas returns and he has the faith that the protection is there and he feels he does not need to worry things will change?, i personally think he will relax more and concentrate on attacking which is his style. Maybe i'm wrong but in my eyes he deserves the respect, and all this negative towards him is some what rude. Remember when he was and is at his best he always had a safe guy behind him. i think we will see a change very soon.
other point which i def know i will be shot down, with Torres, Loan him in Jan with an option to buy. still think he could be a goal poacher for us. Suarez, Sterling, Stevie, there with him i think he would finish a lot of chances. he needs confidence and more importantly many may disagree but a sports physiologist to change his attitude and give him some believe again.
J.Hunt
30 Nov 2012 01:23:14
As a huge fan and season ticket holder im dissapointed with lfc right through with ian ayre the joke and the owners who btw when they give kenny a 100 million to spend watched were thier money went carefully and as for the on the pitch resulsts matter end of btw ive supported lfc for 40 years and we have been in transition since 1990 get a grip lfc and please no replys sayin u dont support lfc or im a bad fan ive seen too many ups and downs and have had enough
Philly LFC
Why blame the owners and Ian Ayre for Kennys spending?
30 Nov 2012 08:49:48
So what next? U denounce ur fanship and go join Citeh? Glad we just lost a 'person' like u.
RedBeer.
Well said Philly,ignore the armchairs we pay to watch carp every week.Were the fans,not the gobs ites who slag us for saying it as it is.BUT NEVER ACTUALLY invest in going
Have to agree on the 1990 bit - wasn't it that Fa cup semi with Crystal palace? Never recovered from that...
dd
30 Nov 2012 01:04:47
Posted a proposed side before=forgot about Sterling lol-drop Stevie to sub for Hendo. and put Sterling right side in that post if you publish it Ed, ta
30 Nov 2012 01:01:57
Cant believe reports Cole in squad for Saturday! He had little cameo now let him go on that-carp hardly the future eiyher.Brendan must be order orders to showcase the carp for window.Downing and Hendo inc in that
30 Nov 2012 01:00:32
i think they have to make shelvey a full time first teamer maybe a full 90 min he would help liverpool take the lead rather than 15 min of trying to catch up when they are down.
30 Nov 2012 00:35:43
If I'm rite in saying eds lfc get 35 percent of the sale of tom ince so if its been said he could go for 6million if my calculations are correct we could get him for 4million sounds gud to me considering downing bought for 20million tanx a lot for ur input JON96 YNWA
30 Nov 2012 00:27:41
Guys we all have our views on how football should be and shouldn't be played ! The fact is none of us are completely right or wrong, that's what makes football so great everyone has their views , I for one can see we are in the bottom half of the table and it kills me but I can also see the style of play we are starting to play Is so so pleasing , all we need is some slight tweaking here and there and a couple of forwards in Jan and we will fly is the second half of the season barring no injuries to big players, just all in all let's just give br time and patience and judge him when he should be in my view the end of next season ,! But these days fan's seem to have the patience of the next click on their x box, fsg will give br that length no problem so fan's should too , support your team instead of just bitching all the time .
The league table constantly changes throughout the season. I am convinced we will come with a late run. Our last 12 fixtures of the season are our best sequence of fixtures where we'll have a chance to put a winning run together? We just have to stay in touch.
kidmillions
I agree with everything you say BUT passion affects people in different ways -
30 Nov 2012 00:18:19
a website are reporting lfc are looking at wilfred bony plz buy him very strong skillful striker well worth every penny watch him play in the dutch league eds have any info if we have made a bid or not {Ed002's Note - RTFP.}
30 Nov 2012 00:03:01
Just need more goal scorers in the team, that is all
Shak Attack
To be fair, that's all Roy needed and Kenny needed.
Roy didnt have the tactics, KD wasted his oppertunity of buying goalscorers he was given
Shak Attack
To the above comment, Roy had Torres and Kenny spent 60m on strikers (carroll/Suarez) so not the same really
I'll accept Kenny but Uncle Woy was miles off! Lose to Everton, best we've played etc not for me! Rodgers is doing the right things, well get here
Irrelevant of the players, Roy had a out of form Torres and Kenny's strikers (Suarez included) didn't score enough goals.
29 Nov 2012 23:57:12
theo walcotts house is up for sale and he is not in the arsenal 2013 calender. Take what you want from it
30 Nov 2012 00:52:35
He's off to PSG in Jan.....?
Also Holloway has criticised him for planning on buying Wilfred Zaha in January.
Someone Wenger obviously see's as a ready replacement.
29 Nov 2012 23:48:22
Had a look in the player profiles for Abel Hernandez who plays for Palermo and Uruguay.
Couldn't find one.
He's apparently injured at the moment, but given his age (22) and that he's played already for the Uruguayan national side, what do you Ed's think of the chances he could be a consideration in the future? {Ed002's Note - I doubt it but who knows what might happen in five years time.}
This players has been injured for 3 years now, Palermo scraper cavani for this guy. Huge potential but injury prone wich we don't need!