Liverpool Banter Archive March 30 2015

30 Mar 2015 23:40:55
I personally wouldn't want us to go out and buy a shed load of players in the summer a couple of players ED 2 has mentioned stand out for me to make a big difference. Kovacic and Baez and a keeper, sell a few of the loan players and I don't think we've got too bad of a squad.

31 Mar 2015 06:10:02
You think Baez would make a difference? Have you seen him play?. There will be Origi coming in the summer too and I rather think we could do with someone a little more experienced than Baez.

31 Mar 2015 06:32:30
I wouldn't be overly fussed if the squad didn't change much.

I think a lot of Rodgers signings would do well under different managers. Lovren, Sahko, Markovic, Lallana have all played well for other clubs and their national team, so whether it's the players just not being able to play with each other or whether it's the tactics, who knows, but most if not all of our current squad have a decent amount of ability.

Obvious departures aside, I wouldn't complain if we had only minor changes in the summer.

31 Mar 2015 07:58:09
Squad doesn't need any changes - first XI needs a striker to join Sturridge and probably a CDM

31 Mar 2015 09:50:42
You need to make changes to your squad every season. Chelsea will more than likely be champions and i would guess they will add at least 2 new players to their squad. I agree with AG, we certainly need a quality forward when and if we get rid of some of the under performing ones we have. Wholesale changes are not required.

30 Mar 2015 18:57:31
edds I posted last night about reina saying rafa would be managing in prem next but witch team? cheers

{Ed002's Note - There is no agreement at this time.}

30 Mar 2015 19:05:01
West Ham

30 Mar 2015 20:20:28
I know with some he isn't wanted but I would love him back to Anfield.

{Ed002's Note - That would be his preferred job as well.}

30 Mar 2015 21:12:55
Why i'd rather keep Rogers at least there's a glimmer a hope he may get us back to playing like last season

But under rafa there be no hope in playing good football again at least if not Rogers someone who wants a DOF and has a attacking style with a high press as the blue print

30 Mar 2015 22:01:43
Under Rodgers we cant defend, under Rafa we could. I cannot see Rodgers sorting that but at least Rafa could work on attack. To be fair to Rafa he did want fast wingers and strikers so he could play fast attacking football.

30 Mar 2015 22:44:17
Time really does make u forget I guess.

30 Mar 2015 23:47:27
Its Liverpool

31 Mar 2015 03:12:29
What about other aspects of the game with Rafa or is defending the only thing that matters to you?

31 Mar 2015 07:00:39
2015 we've had the best defensive record in the league

31 Mar 2015 07:20:56
Ed002 which teams are interested in taking him in the prem and what do you think of him as manager head coach? also just my thoughts I would love him back at are club weather that possible maybe you no ed cheers

{Ed002's Note - There is no agreement with any club at this time. Liverpool has a manager at this time.}

31 Mar 2015 00:35:07
Could make for an interesting poll of the day that eds.
Who would you rather have in charge next season if it was out of Rodgers and Rafa?

31 Mar 2015 08:55:32
We've got to stop being sentimental as fans, otherwise we will turn into Newcastle. Rafa had his time, he brought back some glory days yet he also played some very dull football and was a manipulator of the press to his own advantage not the club's.

We have moved on, Rodgers now has us playing some good attacking football despite the first half of the season where he returned to his version of tika-taka. Let him finish out the season and then let's evaluate how it has gone and what needs to be changed. You never know, Citeh might come in for him and we can earn a huge amount of compo!

31 Mar 2015 09:51:42
I will support any manager and player the club bring in. But as a fan I am entitled to bring constructive criticism. I do not believe Rodgers is the man to take us forward. He has had a good run in 2015 but his start to the season was nothing less than shocking. He brought to many average players in during his reign and I still for the life of me cannot see why he is so arrogant that he would not work under a DOF.
His style of play had to change mid way through the season and I think this was via pressure from the owners/staff/media and fans. He cannot speak to the press without making himself look an idiot as he thinks he can do a "Jose" in front of the cameras.
Rafa was not given a fair chance before, we at the time did not know that Gillet and Hicks were not giving him money and choosing players so hoe can Rafa be blamed? You can't blame him for his out bursts knowing now how the pressure working under these numpties must have been. Rafa at least brought some success with champs lge and cup runs and 2nd place. Rafa could attract players, Rodgers cannot. So for me I would thank Mr Rodgers for his time and efforts, say farewell and ask Rafa to come back. People forget that Rafa was asked to steer the Chelsea ship while they waited for Jose so he couldn't be that bad.

{Ed001's Note - Rafa chose all the players signed in his reign, none were chosen by the owners, who never got involved in that at all.}

31 Mar 2015 12:25:04
Rafa at Man City would be a force to be reconed with. If he went there, they would win the CL in the next three years. He'd flop at us though, our squad isn't right for him and we can't afford to make wholesale changes

31 Mar 2015 15:53:46
Ed001, Rafa wanted cash and the owners(H&G) would not budge and give him and money for players he wanted. They also broke promises to players(Torres) so of course they want to leave and made Rafa into a scape goat for their antics in trying to run a football club.
In my opinion Rafa going to Man city would be bad, he would make them into being a major force in Europe and really challenge Chelsea. With good owners and support I don't see many better in the game then Rafa. He not only wanted the best team but he was also good and getting involved with local issues. To me Rodgers has tried and not succeeded and managed to take us any further so time to change come the end of the season.

{Ed001's Note - oh for heaven's sake Rafa spent pot loads of money and nearly bankrupt the club with his reckless spending.}

31 Mar 2015 16:55:52
Ed002, Would Rafa be willing to work under a DoF if Rodgers refuses? Has Rafa been speaking with the team? Has the club identified some DoF targets? Have they spoken to people?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained before that you shouldn't all be so obsessed with this Director of Football concept.}

31 Mar 2015 17:06:24
He also earned millions of pounds with his constant champions league exploits.

31 Mar 2015 23:07:28
Ed001 Rafa net spend in 6 years was £78 million but he won us a champs lge and got us to another final so to me he nearly balanced the spending you mention. To me Rafa was far more financially astute than Rodgers and Rafa could set the team up technically for a game. Rodgers goes with plan A, if that does not work he then reverts to plan A then on to plan A and so on and so on.

{Ed001's Note - you have no understanding of finances. His net spend was well over 200m due to ridiculously high turnover of players and the requirement to pay up their contract each time one left. He never even came close to balancing the spending and it is ignorant of any kind of knowledge of the finances of the club to even suggest otherwise.

Why do people persist with this utter lie that Rafa's spending wasn't so bad? Rafa nearly bankrupt Valencia, then he came here and nearly bankrupt us. Both times his spending put the club into severe financial difficulties requiring years of belt tightening to get through it.}

31 Mar 2015 23:20:04
And if you take into account the 50million for Torres which isn't accounted into Rafa"s time his net spend would be less than 30million over 6 years without taking into account champs lge and FA cup winning money.

{Ed001's Note - no it would not. Please just give up, you don't have a clue what you are talking about at all.}

01 Apr 2015 11:56:28
How about, Josemi, Antonio Nunez, Antonio Barragan, Gabriel Paletta, Miki Roque, Besian Idrizaj, Mark Gonzalez, Paul Anderson, Jan Kromkamp, Nabil El Zhar, Astrit Ajdarevic, Daniele Padelli, Jordy Brouwer, Francisco Manuel Duran, Krisztian Nemeth, Mikel San Jose, Sebastian Leto, Andriy Voronin, Charles Itandje, Lauri Dalla Valle, Diego Cavalieri, Alberto Aquilani, Sotirios Kyrgiakos and of course Milan Jovanovic as 25 reasons why Benitez transfer record wasn't good?

30 Mar 2015 18:34:48
Hi ed01 hope all is well.
Quick one on young raheems contract so sorry if it obvious.
Iv been relatively relaxed on the ongoing negotiations or lack thereof with raheem because I was under the impression his contract was up in the summer of 2017, however it's been mentioned a few times on various media including talk sport who I consider a grade above the usual media rubbish that his contract is up in 2016 which would be a bit more concerning.
Care to shed any light of possible?
Many thanks and as usual great work.

{Ed002's Note - 2017.}

30 Mar 2015 20:50:00
Is 2017, but he falls into Bosman territory before then and is only worth the compensation for being under 24 I believe, but the encyclopaedic Ed002 would know exactly.

But there are other implications. The longer he takes to sign, the longer others will as well because they will all rate their wage claim against what Sterling gets. For example, Henderson would expect, as Captain, to be paid somewhere around what Sterling gets if not slightly more in recognition of the armband.

{Ed002's Note - He would be allowed to talk to non-EPL clubs from the January of 2017. I cannot see it will get to that.}

30 Mar 2015 16:41:57
Saw the charity match and then some instagram pics from Gerrard, Suarez and Torres. I am really going to miss Gerrard. a true legend.

We had some really great players once. Pity they could never be there at the same time and at their height. Also nice to see Shelvey, Henry, Kelly, Alonso, Terry and Risse. Speaks a volume about who and what was GERRARD.

People here please lighten up. I know we all love our club but i think its better not to be overly critical. From our current crop who knows may be a next legend is being made. Keep faith YNWA

30 Mar 2015 16:35:16
Haven't been on for ages due to work. WHAT has happened? Seems some posters have developed thin skin syndrome! I enjoy it when Ed002 spews his vitriol and she does it with style lol

When did we as fans, start worrying about this, instead of (nicely' giving it back? I don't really mind being called an idiot this is just the internet!!! Perhaps some people need to take a break ad visit the real world for a bit, get some clarity!

30 Mar 2015 10:43:50
What a fantastic occasion yesterday. I also think the timing for such an event was crucial. Yes we are probably still hurting from last Sunday but yesterday gave us a moment to reflect on why we do support our team and why we have invested into the Liverpool ethos and culture. I'm always proud to call myself a red .now we can take a deep breath and get ready to take the plunge for the rest of the season. Well done everyone

31 Mar 2015 03:17:22
It was great to see all those past heros who served us well. I enjoyed the game and to me, seeing Xabi Alonso at Anfield one more time made me wonder what might have been had he not been forced out IMO, from the club. Great game and great experience.

30 Mar 2015 09:45:02
Hi eds, do you believe if a new manager is brought in, lucas still has a future at the club, or are the two things irrelevant?

{Ed001's Note - it does depend on who is in charge and if they can convince him to stay.}

30 Mar 2015 15:56:26
Hopefully he will stay for a few more years. He is a very goog cdm who gives balance to the team, he is a great example of overcoming and work ethics, and he loves the club. Unfortunately he won't accept to continue to be treated like he has been; perhaps it will end with something similar to what happened with Agger, which will be a great mistake (again)