Liverpool Banter Archive March 30 2011
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30 Mar 2011 23:52:10
Lucas is SH*T! tbh i think hes useless gives the ball away too much can't pass further than 10 yards and gives away a foul every time he tries to tackle sum1 god knows y people think hes decent?? ?!? ?
30 Mar 2011 23:47:21
{Ed005's Note - Don't think its true. Why would PSV do a deal for a key player when they are in a title challenge in Holland?}
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Because the season would be over by the time he signs
Anfield Andy
30 Mar 2011 23:37:41
Dzsudzsak has signed 12.5m.
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i don't know who your source is mate but i have been hearing whispers since saturday that we had a bid on the table. . ill be happy to see if this comes true though what do you think ed? {Ed005's Note - Don't think its true. Why would PSV do a deal for a key player when they are in a title challenge in Holland?}
30 Mar 2011 23:34:14
Brazil tend to play a lot like Barcelona, which is to say that they play with a set back 4, holding mid or mids, then free role attacking players with 1-2 out an out forwards. The number of holding mid and attackers depends on the opponent.
30 Mar 2011 23:07:52
Wot do u think of Ian Ayre people
30 Mar 2011 23:01:29
Put it this way, when lfc have something to tell regarding transfers Then we'll be the first to know.
anyone see torres on transfers that shocked the world earlier on itv 4? I think it was in top 5.
Lfcjohnynwa
30 Mar 2011 22:33:41
Anybody know the formation Brazil play these days. .formation plus the usual starters if u guys don't mind please. .cheers
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looking at the beautiful brasilian women who were there id say, phowah phowah 2,
30 Mar 2011 22:36:15
30 Mar 2011 19:13:13
I take it you have never watched benega either then? and if a "foriengers" a better player than a scottish slow gareth barry, il take the foreigner. And if you watch blackpool they have a lot of movement up front, can't say iv seen much movement from liverpool in a good few years
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Here we go , are you related to banega? is it you that keeps posting about him about how great he is and why we must sign him , i have watched banega play can't remember him standing out against the manks at all and ive watched valencia a few times , hasnt done anything special at all , if hes that good why arent other clubs chasing him? why is he not starting every week for valencia? cause he had a bust up with the gaffer , perhaps he has attitude problems why would we want that?? don't get me wrong if he did sign i would support kennys choice but i would prefer other players , just don't rate him and hes not liverpool material. adam offers us leadership qualitys that banega can't , adam is by far better at set peices any day of the week compared to banega. adam is a fantastic passer of the ball much better than banega! don't get me wrong adam isn't the most fittest of players and could do with improving fitness but he would offer us alot more than banega would.
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erm why should he be related to him to want him in the team? why should we not go for "foriengers" when they offer so much? the reason why MOST liverpool fans prefer banega over adam is due to the fact that he has more to offer than him. he doesn't play week in n week out for valencia for a reason but he still gets into the argentina squad. its simple if the "foriengers" are good enough they will be linked but locals will be linked even if their not. and btw banega is a very good passer kinda like a more prem suitable aquilani but more static and the reason why he's more static is because of his passing abilities. with that being said he is more liverpool material than CA could ever be. next time watch more than two games of banega play before making a fool out of urself. i would involve shelvy more before thinking about paying 12m for charlie (which is a randsom fee)
30 Mar 2011 22:43:03
Just a note about a player who doesn't always get it right , has taken one hell of a lot of stick(me being one)but who has always given everything. I for one is glad that Lucas has signed a new deal and the improvement the lad has made says it is the right move for lfc to keep a good prospect. It has not and should never been lfc's way to criticise players or get on their back, but this lad has taken a lot of jip and dealt withit. Under KK he seems to have found a new strength. I hope he continues to improve. Well done fella.Pinhead
30 Mar 2011 22:46:00
Ed can you please fill me in on this stuff about dzudszak? i've heard nothing regarding him and was hoping you could tell me what people on here are talking about? {Ed005's Note - Total nonsense.}
30 Mar 2011 22:47:01
Anyone joined ' Fitness Singles ' then?
That's a mighty fine advert that appears on here, the one with the blonde lass grasping a dumbell.
Can Macca give us any gossip there !?
KB
30 Mar 2011 21:59:00
{Ed001's Note - not in the slightest chance of being true.}
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why not? and is it true Dzsudzak has signed? {Ed001's Note - it would help if you include the original post so I can figure out what it was I answered to. Oh and no, he has not signed as of yet.}
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Someone said that Macca was Kenny and how do you know Dzsudzsak hasnt signed maybe someone just didn't tell you? {Ed005's Note - I very much doubt that Macca is Kenny. And how do you know Dzsudzsak has signed? I very much doubt that PSV would be willing to do a deal involving one of their key players when they are challenging to win the Dutch League.}
30 Mar 2011 22:00:06
Ed you said Dzsudzsak has not signed as of yet so u expecting him to sign ed cheers {Ed005's Note - That's probably not what he meant. He's a player we've had watched.}
30 Mar 2011 22:00:52
Hi Ed,
If City manage to sign Sanchez do you think that would improve our chances of getting Adam Johnson? are you aware of any interest in him?
Also do you have any idea what the possible implications of the current unrest at Ajax are?
Cheers
Geoff {Ed005's Note - I don't know, I still can't see Man City selling him to us.}
30 Mar 2011 22:01:09
Ed do you think any players either look or even post on site like this or like chat and have accounts on forums succh as RAWK? {Ed005's Note - I don't know, but I doubt many of them could be bothered. Forums like RAWK are full of fickle idiots who know barely anything about football so it would be exhausting to read the nonsense they spout on a daily basis.}
30 Mar 2011 22:04:55
Dzsudzsak has signed 12.5m.
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and you know this because? Sauce?
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Tomato
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Ha 2nd poster you have been made to look like a complete idiot unlucky. Hope dzsudzsak has signed
30 Mar 2011 22:06:13
Ed who do you think are good creative CMs with a good passing range and are/ can become possible targets? {Ed005's Note - Charlie Adam.}
30 Mar 2011 21:45:53
Why does it matter who macca or the eds are? i think it adds to the intrigue and mystery the way it is. the fact that no one knows who they are keeps every one guessing and not knowing for sure. they give their knowledge which they believe to be true and you can either take their word for it or not, every person is going to have a different opinion anyway because they may or may not like the player mentioned. this is a RUMOURS site. when Liverpool have something to announce the fans will be the first to know.
30 Mar 2011 21:47:02
Brazil usually play a 4-2-3-1, with Lucas and Ramires as the 2.
Just to add my two cents into the Charlie Adam debate, he is a good player, but should only be brought at the right price. He would be a good replacement for Aquilani, if as expected he moves on. We should not pay over £6m as he is out of contract next year - if Man Utd and Tottenham want to pay more than that, that's their perogative.
For me there is a greater need to bring in some wide players - wingers and left backs (if Aurelio and Insua move on) are needed more than Adam.
RedSG
30 Mar 2011 21:31:25
{Ed001's Note - not in the slightest chance of being true.}
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why not? and is it true Dzsudzak has signed? {Ed001's Note - it would help if you include the original post so I can figure out what it was I answered to. Oh and no, he has not signed as of yet.}
30 Mar 2011 21:31:36
30 Mar 2011 13:34:00
Cracks me up the amount of people who watch a match then think LFC should sign all the players that seem to have a good game - Idiots
Non of us will know what players KK and DC will have in mind, Liverpool are trying to do things as in the good old days behind closed doors.
Players that looked good in January's transfer market may not be right when the summer window comes around, lets just wait and see what happens!
The main thing that us LFC fans should be doing now is supporting and getting behind the players we have, Lucas, Johnson, Reina, Carra ive seen them all been slagged off on here but we need them to play their socks off for the next 8 games so lets stop think of replacements and dreaming of things to come and rally behind our team. .
Good luck to all the LFC squad for the remainder of the season, do us proud!
YNWA jns
The Mirror has made my point for me today, saying LFC wanted to sell Lucas and hours later he signs a long-term contract. well done Liverpool. . non of us know whats going to happen so lets stop surmising from lazy journalism.
Only time will tell but more important is the 8 games we have left! !
YNWA jns
30 Mar 2011 21:25:33
I have it on good authority that Macca is actually kenny
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ed think this could/ is true? {Ed001's Note - not in the slightest chance of being true.}
30 Mar 2011 21:19:11
Anybody know the formation Brazil play these days. .formation plus the usual starters if u guys don't mind please. .cheers
Bob L Swagger
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I think it might be a 4-4-2, at least that's what i think they played vs Scotland, can you back me up on this one ed?
cheers
maka {Ed001's Note - no good asking me, I can't stomach international footie, bores me to tears sorry.}
30 Mar 2011 21:19:39
30 Mar 2011 15:46:56
Dann - To replace Soto and Skrtle
Baines/ Enrique - In dire need of a left back
Adam - To replace Lucas and Poulsen
McCarthy - To replace Aquilani
Jarvis - Replace Jovanovic
McGeady - Replace Maxi
Wickham - Replace Ngog
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These players will not make us a world class team, they are all decent/ good players from poorer teams. Most of them don't even play for there country regulary. These players will not add any excitement, creativity or class to our team, there is not one player there that people see on the team sheet and say "wow better be wary of him". A bunch of over rated, unproven at top level players who add no flair to our already lifeless team. Just because they are all British it dosn't make them good players. Lets face it foreign players, in my view, are techniqually better players and that is what we need in our team spmeone to pull the strings add some flair and trickery to our squad. There are better players in our price range in every position you have covered in your post, there just not all british.
E.H LFC
30 Mar 2011 21:15:31
I have it on good authority that Macca is actually kenny
30 Mar 2011 21:02:49
30 Mar 2011 20:35:55
To the humpty dumpty who wrote this: "There is not much interest in Sanchez, DC feels hes too lightweight and wouldn't adapt to the PL. Hazard, Dzsudzsak and Young are the 3 wingers DC wants. Young is close to signing, and we have started bidding for Dzsudzsak and Hazard. Hazard for 16m and Dzsudzsak for 10m. If Young agrees to sign, he will cost 12m. We want to try and secure deals with clubs now."
Hazard is not a winger, watch your football you idiot, he is a central attacking midfielder.
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Right mate, if you actually watched Lille, rather than judge Hazard off Youtube, you would know he plays on the left or right of a 4-3-3.
30 Mar 2011 20:52:52
Breaking news, the whole of the ajax board has resigned today, glad we got our luis when we did, is there anyone else there ed we could nick, {Ed001's Note - we have been watching a number of players there, Ajax are skint, I wouldn't be surprised if we did pick up Erikssen.}
30 Mar 2011 20:39:46
To RED BOB
Both banega and adam are crap. are u related to red bob?
30 Mar 2011 20:34:49
I was not a Lucas fan a couple of years ago, but this boy has grew on me! I would now consider Lucas to be an one of us, he comes out each week and gives 110% and has become a great player for our club we should appreciate the fact that we have players like Lucas and we need more players like him that actually want to be part of LFC and KK not like the fart knocker aka Torres! All i can say is a salute you Lucas Leiva and let the good times roll once again! ! ! YNWA
30 Mar 2011 20:35:55
To the humpty dumpty who wrote this: "There is not much interest in Sanchez, DC feels hes too lightweight and wouldn't adapt to the PL. Hazard, Dzsudzsak and Young are the 3 wingers DC wants. Young is close to signing, and we have started bidding for Dzsudzsak and Hazard. Hazard for 16m and Dzsudzsak for 10m. If Young agrees to sign, he will cost 12m. We want to try and secure deals with clubs now."
Hazard is not a winger, watch your football you idiot, he is a central attacking midfielder.
kalashnikov
30 Mar 2011 20:16:14
Here we go , are you related to banega? is it you that keeps posting about him about how great he is and why we must sign him , i have watched banega play can't remember him standing out against the manks at all and ive watched valencia a few times , hasnt done anything special at all , if hes that good why arent other clubs chasing him? why is he not starting every week for valencia? cause he had a bust up with the gaffer , perhaps he has attitude problems why would we want that?? don't get me wrong if he did sign i would support kennys choice but i would prefer other players , just don't rate him and hes not liverpool material. adam offers us leadership qualitys that banega can't , adam is by far better at set peices any day of the week compared to banega. adam is a fantastic passer of the ball much better than banega! don't get me wrong adam isn't the most fittest of players and could do with improving fitness but he would offer us alot more than banega would.
Are you related to adam? Trying to get him a big pay day? would just rather have a decent midfielder than a fat unfit, slow, clumsy, one footed one season wonder. He is playing in a midfield where there is lots of movement all over the pitch, hence why they concede so many goals coz they have no one defending and why they keep scoring coz everyone attacks. also im not the one who keeps posting about benege im the one who keeps posting about freddy guarin
RED BOB
30 Mar 2011 20:21:16
Infact I apologise, it was just under a year ago. During that shocking season he signed a 6 year contract. Now that's commitment! Gotta love Pepe.
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yes but wasn't that b4 him and traitor were romoured to have had a set to with sg and jc?
30 Mar 2011 20:12:09
After news broke that the Brazilian midfielder has signed a new long-term contract with the Reds, the 24-year old immediately turned his sights towards helping the Reds re-establish themselves as a force in English and European football.
"For me it was an easy decision because I know how big Liverpool is and I can see Liverpool are committed to me and are planning for a future with me, " he told Liverpoolfc.tv. "The effort from the club was amazing and that makes me feel an important player. That's why it was an easy decision.
"I am really, really happy. The last few weeks have been really good for me and now I have signed a new contract and can spend more years at Liverpool I will do my best all the time and try to help the club to be bigger and bigger, if that's possible.
"Everyone wants to be in the Champions League again and to win titles. That is what Liverpool is about. The way everything is going I think it will be a very good next few seasons.
"We have some new players who have come here and that shows we are moving in the right direction. I am pleased with the way Liverpool tried to keep me and now I want to keep doing my best for them.
"I don't think people thought I could stay here for so long, but now I want to just keep on improving."
well done lucas you've bin great an got your just rewards
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Special thanks to Rafael Benitez. . . . . .
Though he did make many mistakes in the market, but by renewing his (Lucas) deal the management has given a vote of confidence to the player and Rafa's faith in his talent. . . . . .
We are also seeing some youngsters coming to the first team like Kelly, Spearing, Shelvey and Wilson (from signings plus youth team). .
Also looking forward to Suso, Pacheco and Sterling. .
Rafa, unlike Houllier, has at least left with a sense of good health in terms of the youth setup. . .
30 Mar 2011 20:08:54
30 Mar 2011 19:50:22
Keys said we wer to blame for heysel because we wanted revenge for 84 European cup final when Roma fans got the better of r fans ( he's disgusting ) . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
Cheers mate- the guys a Turd
Jason
30 Mar 2011 19:59:33
Totally agree with macca on this one , i really don't want someone like bangea in the team just don't rate him that much , i would have adam over him any day , adam has premier league experience and is alot tougher than banega , i can imagine banega chucking himself around diving everywhere he looks a bit of a wimp if you ask me. plus why does every one want a random bunch of foriengers at the club?
I take it you haven't seen Ever Banega play then? He's a class player, a million times better than Charlie Adam! Banega and Martinez would be the way forward, both in the mould of Xabi Alonso.
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And one fine day, they would want to go back to Spain or Italy. . .
We should go for Charlie Adams and James MnCarthy. .
30 Mar 2011 19:59:50
Anybody know the formation Brazil play these days. .formation plus the usual starters if u guys don't mind please. .cheers
Bob L Swagger
30 Mar 2011 20:00:08
Not long got in from work and just found out we have given that crab LUCAS a new deal, GUTTED! Just hope it's so we can sell him on at a decent price, if not then I seriously worry about our long term future if this is the quality of player we are having in the engine room of our midfield. GUTTED GUTTED GUTTED!
30 Mar 2011 20:00:39
To McSnugglesOG
i appriciate (sp) what you are saying in that we should look in different leagues where no one is really looking at but please we did look in the belgian league, we got thier best scorer in milan jovanovic and he hasn't really set the place alight has he, fair enough he hasn't had much game time but something must be wrong for kk not to be playing him, Hazard or lukaku might be different but we won't be getting them any time soon. keep up the good work eds
huddz red
30 Mar 2011 19:54:13
After news broke that the Brazilian midfielder has signed a new long-term contract with the Reds, the 24-year old immediately turned his sights towards helping the Reds re-establish themselves as a force in English and European football.
"For me it was an easy decision because I know how big Liverpool is and I can see Liverpool are committed to me and are planning for a future with me, " he told Liverpoolfc.tv. "The effort from the club was amazing and that makes me feel an important player. That's why it was an easy decision.
"I am really, really happy. The last few weeks have been really good for me and now I have signed a new contract and can spend more years at Liverpool I will do my best all the time and try to help the club to be bigger and bigger, if that's possible.
"Everyone wants to be in the Champions League again and to win titles. That is what Liverpool is about. The way everything is going I think it will be a very good next few seasons.
"We have some new players who have come here and that shows we are moving in the right direction. I am pleased with the way Liverpool tried to keep me and now I want to keep doing my best for them.
"I don't think people thought I could stay here for so long, but now I want to just keep on improving."
well done lucas you've bin great an got your just rewards
30 Mar 2011 19:56:18
Why are people saying James mc carthy to Liverpool. I posted before that he is not good enough. He only plays when he wants and again I was proved right when he was playingfor Ireland last nite. Lazy and cudnt be bothered at times
30 Mar 2011 19:50:22
Keys said we wer to blame for heysel because we wanted revenge for 84 European cup final when Roma fans got the better of r fans ( he's disgusting ) . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
30 Mar 2011 19:52:42
Just to put this rumour to bed about Reina wanting to leave for the past 2 years. 18 months ago he signed a 6 year contract, would a want-away do that?
Infact I apologise, it was just under a year ago. During that shocking season he signed a 6 year contract. Now that's commitment! Gotta love Pepe.
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There is no smoke without fire. . .
In this case, the smoke is tooo much to ignore. . .
I think DC and KD may well sit down and ask Reina about his intentions after the season comes to an end. . .After the Torres experience, there is no use trying to keep an unhappy guy around. .And as usual if he moves, I can see him not winning much (like the other players who have left us. . )
30 Mar 2011 19:41:57
Totally agree with macca on this one , i really don't want someone like bangea in the team just don't rate him that much , i would have adam over him any day , adam has premier league experience and is alot tougher than banega , i can imagine banega chucking himself around diving everywhere he looks a bit of a wimp if you ask me. plus why does every one want a random bunch of foriengers at the club?
I take it you haven't seen Ever Banega play then? He's a class player, a million times better than Charlie Adam! Banega and Martinez would be the way forward, both in the mould of Xabi Alonso.
30 Mar 2011 19:43:35
So, according to some posters Mexes is our most likely signing for the central defense? I laugh at this, considering he came out I believe in the last week saying he wants to stay in Italy. It was on ESPNsoccernet, I believe (not that the website is reliable, imo, but they can't get a direct quote wrong unless Harry Harris is making up drivel again.)
It's obvious that, to the delight of many of our blinded-by-nationality English readers/ posters, the new hierarchy is looking into some of the "best" British talent. While this is definitely a good thing for the sake of the home-grown rules, we have PLENTY coming from our Academy in the next couple of years, and we have enough in our first team as it is, not that I wouldn't mind a signing or two of the RIGHT caliber. Mind you, not sure which English players right now are the right caliber. Maybe Adam Johnson.
In my humbled, American opinion, why not look in some of the "untapped" markets? Landon Donavon had a pretty good stint with Everton (lol), so why not look into him? Especially if the MLS would accept a fee below 10 million, he could do a job on the wing or behind the striker. I figure the American owners would suggest this, or even Dempsey (one of Fulham's best, good squad player) to the management team. Another market to look into would be the Russian one. Russians traditionally are strong and have decent technical ability (with some exceptions, of course) and what's wrong with looking at their young and upcoming talent to bring in for pennies on the dollar?
The market I feel we should extensively be tapping, though, is the Scandinavian (yes, I sound like Roy) market (and the Belgian league). Strong, physical players with more technical ability than most Brits, a lot like Senor Hyypia, and now look at how that dirty knob Fellaini has progressed.
And I feel as if a lot of the posters and even editors may take the whole "best up and coming young talent" decree by the owners at face value a bit too much. Buying experience still cannot hurt, but they just won't be paying over the odds for it.
That said, a few players I feel could do a job coming from other Premiership teams while not totally breaking the bank include:
Baines, N'gozbia, Adam Johnson, Albrighton (if Villa go down), Larsson (I like him a lot for some reason, but personal preference), and maybe, just maybe the forgotten man from Blackpool's central midfield who I feel is actually BETTER than the overrated Adam, Mister Vaughn.
I know this is all a rant, and all, but reading this is rather obnoxious and quite entertaining.
McSnugglesOG
30 Mar 2011 19:44:31
It's great how aquillani says he would cum back, correct me if am wrong but isn't he contracted to us , if the king wants him in his plans an that a big if he's entitled to drag him back by that greasy wig of his , it's down to the club what he does not him . . . The chef kd7 YNWA JFT96
30 Mar 2011 19:47:43
Today is a great day for Liverpool fan from India. . .
India has reached the final of cricket WC 2011. . .
Lucas has signed a new deal at Liverpool. . . Looking forward to more great days from the Brazilian. . .
30 Mar 2011 19:37:33
Here we go , are you related to banega? is it you that keeps posting about him about how great he is and why we must sign him , i have watched banega play can't remember him standing out against the manks at all and ive watched valencia a few times , hasnt done anything special at all , if hes that good why arent other clubs chasing him? why is he not starting every week for valencia? cause he had a bust up with the gaffer , perhaps he has attitude problems why would we want that?? don't get me wrong if he did sign i would support kennys choice but i would prefer other players , just don't rate him and hes not liverpool material. adam offers us leadership qualitys that banega can't , adam is by far better at set peices any day of the week compared to banega. adam is a fantastic passer of the ball much better than banega! don't get me wrong adam isn't the most fittest of players and could do with improving fitness but he would offer us alot more than banega would.
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here we go are you the guy who compared adam to alonso? hes crap an no way a better passer of the ball than benega, i don't think we shud get benega as hes too light-weight but hes far better than adam, my choice wud be javi martinez or pjanic
30 Mar 2011 19:12:34
Hi lads and eds,
Any1 know what hairy hands keys was saying about the heysel disaster?
Also Ed and everyone u shud check out this barca kid gerard deulofeu on YouTube- I know it's highlights but do it for fun- I reckon we shud risk a 40mill bid now!lol
Jason {Ed001's Note - I don't know what he was saying, I have always made a point of taking no notice of him to be honest.}
30 Mar 2011 19:13:13
I take it you have never watched benega either then? and if a "foriengers" a better player than a scottish slow gareth barry, il take the foreigner. And if you watch blackpool they have a lot of movement up front, can't say iv seen much movement from liverpool in a good few years
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Here we go , are you related to banega? is it you that keeps posting about him about how great he is and why we must sign him , i have watched banega play can't remember him standing out against the manks at all and ive watched valencia a few times , hasnt done anything special at all , if hes that good why arent other clubs chasing him? why is he not starting every week for valencia? cause he had a bust up with the gaffer , perhaps he has attitude problems why would we want that?? ? don't get me wrong if he did sign i would support kennys choice but i would prefer other players , just don't rate him and hes not liverpool material. adam offers us leadership qualitys that banega can't , adam is by far better at set peices any day of the week compared to banega. adam is a fantastic passer of the ball much better than banega! don't get me wrong adam isn't the most fittest of players and could do with improving fitness but he would offer us alot more than banega would.
30 Mar 2011 19:00:00
Just to put this rumour to bed about Reina wanting to leave for the past 2 years. 18 months ago he signed a 6 year contract, would a want-away do that?
30 Mar 2011 18:59:28
Totally agree with macca on this one , i really don't want someone like bangea in the team just don't rate him that much , i would have adam over him any day , adam has premier league experience and is alot tougher than banega , i can imagine banega chucking himself around diving everywhere he looks a bit of a wimp if you ask me. plus why does every one want a random bunch of foriengers at the club?
I take it you have never watched benega either then? and if a "foriengers" a better player than a scottish slow gareth barry, il take the foreigner. And if you watch blackpool they have a lot of movement up front, can't say iv seen much movement from liverpool in a good few years
30 Mar 2011 18:44:09
Have this on good authority . .
Top defensive targets are Mexes, Sakho, Ansaldi, Cahill, Baines (Mexes and Sakho are the 2 most likely)
Midfield targets are McCarthy, J. Martinez, Banega (although I would expect only 1 to be bought)
Attacking targets are Young, Hulk, Downing, Benzema, Aguero, Pastore (obviously Benzema, Aguero and Pastore will be more expensive than the other 3 but there is strong interest)
From what i have heard, these are the top targets but everything can change in a few months
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You forgot to mention Messi , Ronaldo and Alonso
From what I dreamt they also top targets and very very likely , they maybe a tad expensive, but money is no problem for our owners . and as the rules have changed to allow Liverpool into the champions league (no matter what league position) I would expect 11 new comers into the first team, and Jose to come in as assistant to Frank.
Roy
30 Mar 2011 18:44:29
30 Mar 2011 17:56:26
30 Mar 2011 16:25:02
I hear what you're saying, Macca - he's the star player in a mid-table team (& imo that's where he belongs) but we're not mid-table! everyone on this board say we need wingers, not another CM/ DM. . what can Adam add to our club? His left foot? SingRed
Do you know how much harder it is too play in a poor team?
If he can perform in the toughest league in the world where a lot foreigners can't then for me, and it is only my opinion he is worth a gamble.
I agree his fitness needs to improve and there are other things in his game he will have to improve on as well, but i believe he will make the squad stronger.
Also a lot of people call for players like Banega etc to be signed when really they have only seen him play on you tube.
Thoughts please,
Macca
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totally agree with macca on this one , i really don't want someone like bangea in the team just don't rate him that much , i would have adam over him any day , adam has premier league experience and is alot tougher than banega , i can imagine banega chucking himself around diving everywhere he looks a bit of a wimp if you ask me. plus why does every one want a random bunch of foriengers at the club??
id have baines , cahill , a young , adam , m.richards , albrighton , scott parker ,
rather than the likes of banega , dzudzak , griezmann , muchassio , elia etc etc
30 Mar 2011 18:47:02
30 Mar 2011 17:48:48
O my days I put my hand on oath and say I z Lucas was getin a new contract in December or January and looky look lol
Darzokid YNWA
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Thing is, you sound surprised!
30 Mar 2011 18:43:24
30 Mar 2011 18:30:19
29 Mar 2011 17:24:07
Reina
Kuyt
Lucas
Agger
They are all signing new contracts.
Also, people should learn to appreciate Lucas. You don't just get in the Brazil starting team and wear the No.5 for nothing.
Is this true Ed, considering Lucas signed a new deal today? {Ed001's Note - Kuyt and Agger have certainly held talks over a new deal, not sure on Reina, I will have to ask.}
Good stuff, can you reply when you find out about Reina please mate? {Ed005's Note - I'm sure he will mate.}
30 Mar 2011 18:30:27
30 Mar 2011 17:48:38
"the people on there who talk the biggest load of total nonsense are without doubt the "football journo's". God they really know nothing! Why the breakfast show insists on having one on every morning between 7-7:30. . "
Sorry to disagree on this one. The journalists are reviewing the media and I think could have a better run at it, if it were not for Brazil and Irani. Darren Lewis (an LFC man) does give an insight into the deeper parts of the headlines, but talkSH*T is more interested in keepi ng to a schedule, hence the cut-offs and interruptions.
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Come on Steve being a football journo is one of the 2 biggest non- jobs going ( the other being horse racing tipster). It's rarely no more than watching a match then giving your opinion on it. I know you could do this and I'd like to think I could too. Admittedly some journo's have an "in" with some clubs and can occasionally get a story worth hearing but then you hear people like Steve Curry unable to pronounce names and stumbling through his sentences as if senility has already set in! Then there's another whose name escapes me who answers every question with "Yes, no, absolutely"! What the F does that mean? None of them ever breaks ranks about the footballers they rub shoulders with. They all chant the same mantras
"Rooney is world class"
"Terry is a born leader"
"'Arry for England"
Etc, etc, etc.
What I would give for someone to tell it how it is! If you get the radio station going I'd gladly be part of it if you'd have me!
Chris in Tamworth
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With reference to Talksh**** and the newspaper review on the Breakfast show I agree with many of the points made. Steve Curry the united fan can be embarrasing mispronouncing names. Also remmember Darren Lewis the supposed Liverpool fan kept pushing the possible takeover by Yaya Kirdi last September as fact, which we all know to have been a sham created by H&G to flush out real interest.
Finally I have stopped listening to the station as much since the recruitment of Richard Keyes and Andy Gray. Also even though Mike 'Porky' Parry is an Everton fan, he was an entertaining presenter and stupidly allowed to leave by the station management to make way for the two sexists.
30 Mar 2011 18:02:15
I don't write as well as SP, but didn't he say "odd twisted mouth"?
When I was at school and writing that was called a descriptive phrase or something like that. Think you're moaning about something that don't mean what you think it means. The kid does have an odd mouth and it is twisted a little - how else would you describe it mate?
Tony 10
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In my opinion, that is irrelevant. I have never questioned Steve Parker's fluent writing style. The point it: I wouldn't say it all. I don't see where a 19 year old kids mouth comes into any criticism of him. Its just inane criticism.
Isaac
30 Mar 2011 17:56:26
30 Mar 2011 16:25:02
I hear what you're saying, Macca - he's the star player in a mid-table team (& imo that's where he belongs) but we're not mid-table! everyone on this board say we need wingers, not another CM/ DM. . what can Adam add to our club? His left foot? SingRed
Do you know how much harder it is too play in a poor team?
If he can perform in the toughest league in the world where a lot foreigners can't then for me, and it is only my opinion he is worth a gamble.
I agree his fitness needs to improve and there are other things in his game he will have to improve on as well, but i believe he will make the squad stronger.
Also a lot of people call for players like Banega etc to be signed when really they have only seen him play on you tube.
Thoughts please,
Macca
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i don't agree with you on that, everytime i watch valencia and banega gets a game im thinking why is't he playing more regularly for them or better yet for why not for us?
i think he offers more than adam. hes got the same price tag, the same vision, the same passing/ playmaking abilities plus he is prodominatly a holding playmaker that can and will go forward when necessary or simply just when he has the ball at hes feet, he can do this because of his pace another thing adam lacks. people say he wouldn't be physical enough but when i see him play he shows more than enough aggression for the prem.
30 Mar 2011 17:51:38
So how does he fit in? Where, in your opinion, Macca, will he play if he's to play? Is he replacing someone who is leaving? SingRed
I hope he will replace Poulsen.
Macca
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The only trouble is poulson doesn't really play.
I do think Adam is a decent player not fantastic but decent.
Like macca says its a lot harder to perform for an average team than a top team. Someone who put he looks for the Hollywood ball do you not think he has more chance of it coming of with suarez or stevie latching onto it?
I just think tho if we did sign him he would just be a bench warmer which is exactly what we don't need , we need starting 11 players.
Best case scenario is blackpool go down which would bring Adams price down, so 7-8mill maybe above 10 forget it.
LAVERS
30 Mar 2011 17:48:38
"the people on there who talk the biggest load of total nonsense are without doubt the "football journo's". God they really know nothing! Why the breakfast show insists on having one on every morning between 7-7:30. . "
Sorry to disagree on this one. The journalists are reviewing the media and I think could have a better run at it, if it were not for Brazil and Irani. Darren Lewis (an LFC man) does give an insight into the deeper parts of the headlines, but talkSH*T is more interested in keepi ng to a schedule, hence the cut-offs and interruptions.
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Come on Steve being a football journo is one of the 2 biggest non- jobs going ( the other being horse racing tipster). It's rarely no more than watching a match then giving your opinion on it. I know you could do this and I'd like to think I could too. Admittedly some journo's have an "in" with some clubs and can occasionally get a story worth hearing but then you hear people like Steve Curry unable to pronounce names and stumbling through his sentences as if senility has already set in! Then there's another whose name escapes me who answers every question with "Yes, no, absolutely"! What the F does that mean?? None of them ever breaks ranks about the footballers they rub shoulders with. They all chant the same mantras
"Rooney is world class"
"Terry is a born leader"
"'Arry for England"
Etc, etc, etc.
What I would give for someone to tell it how it is! If you get the radio station going I'd gladly be part of it if you'd have me!
Chris in Tamworth
30 Mar 2011 17:48:48
O my days I put my hand on oath and say I z Lucas was getin a new contract in December or January and looky look lol
Darzokid YNWA
30 Mar 2011 17:44:45
Well done lucas, you deserve it, now maybe all the lucas knockers might ease off a bit now, ynwa
30 Mar 2011 17:41:50
Hey ed is it known how long Lucas has signed for? Adamynwa {Ed001's Note - I don't actually know, I was just looking through all the press releases I have and all just say a long term contract.}
30 Mar 2011 17:35:05
"i would sell lucas and use gerrard in his position he
would be much better at it and play adam in middle
aintree dave"
Too bad, mate! It's official - Comolli didn't just offload him, quite the opposite! He gave our boy a new long-term contract. Onya Lucas! - SingRed
30 Mar 2011 17:35:13
Just looked on espn breaking news and it said reina has wanted to leave for 2 years hope this isn't true! !
. . . .
Why is he still here then.
30 Mar 2011 17:31:46
So how does he fit in? Where, in your opinion, Macca, will he play if he's to play? Is he replacing someone who is leaving? SingRed
I hope he will replace Poulsen.
Macca
30 Mar 2011 17:31:54
Just because someone hasplayed football at a decent level it does not make their opinion more valid.
Christiano Ronaldo has played at the highest level, but I get the feeling that he would not make much of manager, or have much of an opinion on anything other than himself.
However, there are certain managers out there that did not play at an amazing level, but i would value there opinion over many others such as Benitez who played in the spanish second league most of his career.
Anfield Andy
30 Mar 2011 17:26:33
Cheers ed- i suppose that's better than just getting the 3m for him that was being quoted!
30 Mar 2011 17:27:21
Lucas signs a new deal - long ter
30 Mar 2011 17:27:38
The Liverpool midfielder Lucas Leiva is set to move away from Anfield after not being offered a new contract. The Brazilian international is nearing the last 12 months of his current deal at Anfield, and the club have given no indication they will look to extend his stay.
He has already signed a new contract. .
Macca
30 Mar 2011 17:22:34
Liverpool team to start in 2011/ 12 season:
(4-3-3 Formation)
Lloris ( If Reina leaves)
Kelly, Mexes, Agger/ Carragher, Coentroa
Adam ( If Manchester United don't get him), Gerrard, Young ( If Manchester United don't get him)
Benzema, Suarez and Carroll
30 Mar 2011 17:22:34
Lucas Leiva to be sacrificed to make way for Charlie Adam
The Liverpool midfielder Lucas Leiva is set to move away from Anfield after not being offered a new contract. The Brazilian international is nearing the last 12 months of his current deal at Anfield, and the club have given no indication they will look to extend his stay.
The Daily Mirror are reporting that football director Damien Comolli is preparing to offload the Brazilian in the summer and Serie A side Napoli look to be a possible destination for him.
Would you rather keep Lucas - believable or sign Adam (poss a one season wonder) - unbelievable
RedDan
i would sell lucas and use gerrard in his position he
would be much better at it and play adam in middle
aintree dave
30 Mar 2011 17:20:40
Cast your minds back when Reading FC was the toast of the PL & players such as Shorey, Doyle, Hunt, were linked to all the big clubs. So where are they now? How many of them have moved on to bigger things? Is Charlie Adam the exception, or is he going to fade after the first season, just like the rest of them? SingRed
30 Mar 2011 17:20:43
Very pleased about Lucas being given a new contract, he really deserves it
30 Mar 2011 17:15:38
Not being funny like, but were out looking for a quality pacey striker that won't cost the earth, have you seen Gyan play recently?
He would be a perfect signing, pacey, decent finisher, ability on the ball, cheap wages and bags of energy. If we are going to go for Wickam, another big man, then surely another finisher would be great, and Gyan is just that.
Everytime you see him on the team sheet for Sunderland you expect to see him do something, score or assist, no matter who he is against.
Benzema is a good player, but will cost a fortune in wages and transfer fee, however Gyan would cost half of both but do the same job! I do understand that there is no interest from us, and we probably won't sign him, but just find him an interesting prospect.
Ed what are your thoughts on the player?
Anfield Andy {Ed001's Note - didn't Sunderland pay 18m for him? With Bruce in charge they will not sell to us cheap!}
30 Mar 2011 17:16:07
From iPhone sky sports app., Lucas has signed a new long term deal. I wasn't his biggest fan but he has IMHO been like a new signing this year and I am glad to hear this news
Carrickfergus Red
30 Mar 2011 17:11:30
Lucas has signed a new deal at anfield! I say fair play and well deserved!
We are building for the future and I am more than happy for Lucas to be part of our SQUAD.
It takes a squad to win silverware and with Lucas you know he will give his all to play for Liverpool!
Is that not what we want? ?
I would welcome another midfield player in the summer to have strength in dept but overall happy with this outcome! YNWA
30 Mar 2011 17:12:00
I really hope we don't sign Charlie Adam in the Scotland, brazil game. There was just so much evidence that he is so over rated. All he tries is the long di-ag's. He may look in the dog and duck side he plays for now, but no where near the class you need to pull on the red jersey under kk!
Your thoughts eds
The t-bird {Ed001's Note - I would not judge any Scot on a performance against Brazil, the quality of the players he is playing with are so inferior and the tactics are so poor, that it is impossible to tell just what he can really do. He has been top class for Blackpool and is clearly better than that side, whether he is good enough for us is a different matter though. The only way we will find out is to see him in our team.}
30 Mar 2011 17:13:46
CONGRATULATIONS TO LUCAS
What a week!
the birth of his son Pedro, starting midfield for brazil, and Today signing a log term contract with LFC.
MUCH DESERVED IMO
J496, YNWA
jasonlfc
30 Mar 2011 17:08:01
Just looked on espn breaking news and it said reina has wanted to leave for 2 years hope this isn't true! !
If that was true why would he of signed a new 5 year contract about a year ago? ?
30 Mar 2011 17:08:56
To dcg Lucas is a very good player dat will only get better he hassles teams when they attack and of course he would pass back and sideways he is a holding midfielder and them short passes go to other Liverpool players most of the time his job is to win da ball and keep things tidy, k doyle isn't a headless chicken but he would't get get into da current pool team and dat is says alot adamynwa
30 Mar 2011 17:01:14
Steve Parker, your post falls down a little when you pick on Wilshere for his "weird twisted mouth". What he looks like is of no relevance and just plain disrespectful in my opinion.
Isaac
I don't write as well as SP, but didn't he say "odd twisted mouth"?
When I was at school and writing that was called a descriptive phrase or something like that. Think you're moaning about something that don't mean what you think it means. The kid does have an odd mouth and it is twisted a little - how else would you describe it mate?
Tony 10
30 Mar 2011 16:59:27
If people are looking for a CM why not pjanic from lyon
ed what dya say? {Ed001's Note - I haven't seen a lot of him, the one I would like is Javi Martinez, he is a proper old-fashioned all-round central midfielder.}
i think he'd be a great buy but will atletico sell both there star players in the summer with llorente's proposed move to real madrid ?
athletic sorry {Ed001's Note - probably not but I can dream!}
30 Mar 2011 16:57:40
The new UEFA rules for the 2013/ 14 season make it a rule that NOBODY who has not played at either professional or European professional level can watch or discuss football.
Quite right.
Who the hell are you ED001 to slag off a man who has played the game professionally? {Ed001's Note - that's good, we can look forward to lots of imbecilic comments from the likes of Paul Merson in future.}
30 Mar 2011 16:53:55
The reason you insult me is because you don't have the football knowledge to respond properly and that's what annoys me about a lot of our fans and fans in general that have never played the game at a decent level and don't understand it and your response to slag off kevin doyle a player who i know, with the headless chicken thing was a joke.
DCG {Ed001's Note - but it is ok for you to insult everyone else? Double standards at play. You came on accusing everyone of knowing less about football than you do and now you are whining because you didn't like the reply. I really don't care if Doyle is your boyfriend/ best friend/ uncle/ son whatever, he is a headless chicken in my opinion. You asked for my opinion I gave it, now stop whining because you don't like it.}
i play football at a decent level, semi-pro, i play every weekend an train 3 times a week, i also think kevin doyle is rubbish, not good enough for LFC, lucas, after you slaggin him off, is a good player, potentially a very good player, the fact that someone does or doesn't play football at a decent level is no reason for you to put down there opinion
30 Mar 2011 16:52:33
Who's having a 4-3-3 on Saturday:
. . . . Reina
Carra. .Skrtel Agger Johnson
. . . . . Lucas
.Gerrard Meireles
. . . . . . . . Suarez
. . Kuyt Carroll
30 Mar 2011 16:46:24
30 Mar 2011 15:52:45
What's with all these posts whinging about talk sport etc?
Have you never heard of an 'off' button?
I'll forgive SP though, cos he's an entertaining writer.
KB
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I was having some "banter" with a fellow poster (look at the name of the page). But you don't want to criticise SP because he's entertaining? What you really mean is "I won't criticise SP cos he's intelligent and he's popular and he may post something that criticises me in return and I'll look silly"
Chris in Tamworth
30 Mar 2011 16:42:17
"I agree his fitness needs to improve and there are other things in his game he will have to improve on as well, but i believe he will make the squad stronger.
Thoughts please, Macca"
So how does he fit in? Where, in your opinion, Macca, will he play if he's to play? Is he replacing someone who is leaving? SingRed
30 Mar 2011 16:38:08
The reason you insult me is because you don't have the football knowledge to respond properly and that's what annoys me about a lot of our fans and fans in general that have never played the game at a decent level and don't understand it and your response to slag off kevin doyle a player who i know, with the headless chicken thing was a joke.
DCG {Ed001's Note - but it is ok for you to insult everyone else? Double standards at play. You came on accusing everyone of knowing less about football than you do and now you are whining because you didn't like the reply. I really don't care if Doyle is your boyfriend/best friend/uncle/son whatever, he is a headless chicken in my opinion. You asked for my opinion I gave it, now stop whining because you don't like it.}
30 Mar 2011 16:39:32
Lucas Leiva has signed a contract extension today, For how long I don't know yet, But this is great news. The lad has won over the majority of his critics and is growing in stature across Europe.
This is the first step in Camolli's (who rates him very highly) efforts to sort the futures of players who seem to have a question mark over there heads before the transfer window opens. The future of Reina & Johnson will be next, along with the ongoing negotiations and agent talk of where Aquilani will end up.
Jonnee
30 Mar 2011 16:37:57
H eds quick question, do liverpool have to finish 5th to qualify for any sort of european football so long as either one of the manchester clubs win the FA cup? love the sight! {Ed001's Note - yes we do. It is still not out of reach just yet though.}
30 Mar 2011 16:25:02
I hear what you're saying, Macca - he's the star player in a mid-table team (& imo that's where he belongs) but we're not mid-table! everyone on this board say we need wingers, not another CM/ DM. . what can Adam add to our club? His left foot? SingRed
Do you know how much harder it is too play in a poor team?
If he can perform in the toughest league in the world where a lot foreigners can't then for me, and it is only my opinion he is worth a gamble.
I agree his fitness needs to improve and there are other things in his game he will have to improve on as well, but i believe he will make the squad stronger.
Also a lot of people call for players like Banega etc to be signed when really they have only seen him play on you tube.
Thoughts please,
Macca
30 Mar 2011 16:26:14
If people are looking for a CM why not pjanic from lyon
ed what dya say ? {Ed001's Note - I haven't seen a lot of him, the one I would like is Javi Martinez, he is a proper old-fashioned all-round central midfielder.}
30 Mar 2011 16:21:27
Ashley Young really impressed me against Wales and Ghana, and I can see why we have been linked with him. A front 3 of Carroll, Suarez and Young would do some serious damage next season - with Kuyt able to cover all of the positions.
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I agree, but we need some serious talent on the wings as well. Personally would like to see N'Zogbia sign.
Adam
30 Mar 2011 16:22:19
Hi ed DCG here again in response to your post never liked mash anyway he was just a ball winner ich every team needs im a purist like the ball on the deck i like footballers which he is not and neither is lucas.bit harsh on kevin doyle yourself far from a headless chicken as arsene wenger said he can do everything well but not one thing superbly u obviously havent seen much of him and he is a great target for players runs the channels well and is good in the air he is a good wolves player and nothing more but you just answered my question about knowledgable fans well you obviously don't fall into that category after your comments.
DCG {Ed001's Note - if you like, but Doyle does nothing Kuyt doesn't do better. He even scores less despite being the focal point of their attack while Kuyt was mostly stuck out on the wings. Of course you have your opinion but that is all you have, oh and an over-inflated ego and sense of self-importance. I suggest you don't bother asking for an opinion ever again being as you seem to think you know everything.}
30 Mar 2011 16:20:38
"Just looked on espn breaking news and it said reina has wanted to leave for 2 years hope this isn't true! !"
Not much of a breaking news from ESPN. . seems they should've reported this two years ago to be breaking.
-Red Socks
30 Mar 2011 16:19:58
"Just looked on espn breaking news and it said reina has wanted to leave for 2 years hope this isn't true! !"
= = =
I don't think this can be accurate can it? Didn't Pepe sign his contract extension within the last x2 years?
Frenchy.
30 Mar 2011 16:12:09
Reason why I'm not convinced about Adam is that where will he fit in the team? Unless Kenny wants him to replace the useless Poulsen (who hardly plays anyway!) We already have Stevie, Raul, Lucas, Spearing anchoring midfield, so where does that leave Adam, if he comes. .? SingRed
30 Mar 2011 16:06:31
I see macca is back posting again. We need a central midielder big time if Adam worked on his fitness i think he would be a good addition but there is better out there. Cant belive the amount of lucas lovers on here, he has been ok this season he is a nothing player really gives away free kicks in dangerous areas for no reason passes backwards sideways he does not break up play very well and is in the worst brazil team in history because is old manager from gremio is now the manager could he play in a pl winning team not in a million years i saw someone on here compared him with alonso i nearly died!. People on here go on about matt jarvis 2 season in the pl 63 appearances 7 goals 4 assists lets get real here.The days of the knowledgable lfc is waning just wondered what the eds thoughts on this were? some of the talk on here and around anfield is not like it used to be.
DCG {Ed001's Note - I think you are harsh on Lucas, after all everyone thought Mash was a great player but he was one of the worst for giving away needless free kicks. He was also constantly passing backwards and sideways, yet you are insulting Lucas for it? Perhaps if he had some movement in front of him he would pass it forward more often. We need width or the midfield has no space to pick a pass, until we get that it is impossible to judge any of their creative abilities. I do agree on Jarvis though, but again maybe he would be better in a better team, with strikers of a higher calibre to create for then Kevin 'headless chicken' Doyle.}
30 Mar 2011 16:03:07
Ashley Young really impressed me against Wales and Ghana, and I can see why we have been linked with him. A front 3 of Carroll, Suarez and Young would do some serious damage next season - with Kuyt able to cover all of the positions.
30 Mar 2011 16:01:18
Just a bit of info I heard, it's up to you guys what you do with it. Rafa Benitez to be next Arsenal boss as Wenger to leave to have some part with the French national team. Like I said, it's up to you what you do with it but I got 33-1 and for the sake of a fiver. . . . .
MUSHROOM
no chance mate, wenger is goin no-where an larent blanc hasnt even bin to a major international tournment yet with france, you shudda kept it for a pint an a few packs of crisps
30 Mar 2011 15:52:45
What's with all these posts whinging about talk sport etc?
Have you never heard of an 'off' button?
I'll forgive SP though, cos he's an entertaining writer.
KB
30 Mar 2011 15:52:09
Sell N'gog and Pulson.
Buy N'zogbia, Hamsik, Coentrao, Huntelaar, Sergio Asenjo
Keep Aqualaini (wasnt given a chance and shouldnt have been loaned), Jovanovic (needs more gametime, one of the few left footers that we have and he's never played) Insua (showed promise, maybe as more of a left winger)
and use the youngsters more. Pacheco, Amoo and all
My starting XI:
Reina
Kelly - Carra - Agger - Coentrao
Johnson - Gerrard - Mereiles - N'zogbia
Suarez - Kuyt
30 Mar 2011 15:50:23
Still not convinced & still can't make any sense of why Charlie Adam is a transfer target. . do we REALLY need him? SingRed
no we dont, there are far better players out there than him, he's a big fish in a very little pond
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So he has been one of the best premier league players all season for a poor team.
What else does he need to do?
Cheers
Macca
he needs to improve his fitness an become faster then i wud hav him in the squad, imo he's a one season wonder who always looks for the hollywood ball, he'd be a good signing for someone like stoke or birmingham but hes not good enough for LFC
30 Mar 2011 15:37:28
"So he has been one of the best premier league players all season for a poor team. Macca"
I hear what you're saying, Macca - he's the star player in a mid-table team (& imo that's where he belongs) but we're not mid-table! everyone on this board say we need wingers, not another CM/ DM. . what can Adam add to our club? His left foot? SingRed
30 Mar 2011 15:32:01
"the people on there who talk the biggest load of total nonsense are without doubt the "football journo's". God they really know nothing! Why the breakfast show insists on having one on every morning between 7-7:30. . "
Sorry to disagree on this one. The journalists are reviewing the media and I think could have a better run at it, if it were not for Brazil and Irani. Darren Lewis (an LFC man) does give an insight into the deeper parts of the headlines, but talkSH*T is more interested in keepi ng to a schedule, hence the cut-offs and interruptions.
I want them to talk to people about the game, NOT with people IN the game. Ask Alan Hansen anything about LFC and it's usually positive, same with Ray Parlour and Arsenal and so on and on . . worthless asking them anything then.
Fans are denied a real football radio station due to the paucity of real in-depth discussions. I would also have a little word about LFC TV. I subscribe and watch it daily. A little amateur at times, but I like the presenters (save for the poor guy who talks about The Academy) and some great guests. Jan Molby and Lucas stood out recently and this is what fans possibly want to hear - what goes on behind the scenes, not the sanitised nonsense we are served.
Liverpool FC deserves a greater audience for its words and deeds. Sadly that will not happen with Radio 5 Live and certainly not with Adrian Durham nor Ronnie Irani.
Steve Parker
30 Mar 2011 15:15:04
Steve, of course you are correct with all of your points concerning talksport, however as bad as Irani and Durham are ( I would also include Mick Quinn, Cundy, Collymore, Saggers, Jacobs and Danny Kelly as truly awful presenters and I'm not even going to mention Keys and Gray! ) the people on there who talk the biggest load of total nonsense are without doubt the "football journo's". God they really know nothing! Why the breakfast show insists on having one on every morning between 7-7:30 (I call this muppetts half hour) is beyond me. Also as someone who has first hand knowledge I have to tell you the Irani is possibly the most gullible person I've ever met and also not too bright (as if you hadn't already worked that out).
So in a nutshell most of the presenters are crap most of the guests are crap it's full of adverts and I basically find myself listening these days for only 2 reasons
1 Brazil sometimes makes me smile
2 Paul Hawksbee is genuinely clever and funny
And yet I still can't bring myself to listen to 5 live!
Chris in Tamworth
30 Mar 2011 14:52:38
Still not convinced & still can't make any sense of why Charlie Adam is a transfer target. . do we REALLY need him? SingRed
no we dont, there are far better players out there than him, he's a big fish in a very little pond
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So he has been one of the best premier league players all season for a poor team.
What else does he need to do?
Cheers
Macca
30 Mar 2011 15:00:57
Have heard that Liverpool are in for a relatively quiet summer. NESV have spent a fortune already in acquiring the club, sorting of debts and will have had to set a considerable amount of money for the stadium. For those expecting a huge spending spree with 7 new players coming in, I think you may be slightly disappointed. Bare in mind, in January, Liverpool only had a net spend of £1 million. The purchases of Carroll and Suarez were practically negated by the Torres and Babel sales.
If I was a gambling man, I would guess Liverpool will have £20m warchest. . max.
I am of the belief that Marveaux (free), Young (£12-15m) and Taiwo (Free) are players that Liverpool are definitely interested in. If two out of these three don't join in the Summer, I will eat my own foot.
Marveaux and Taiwo have a relatively good chance of joining; One: The Comolli Factor. Two: Chance to prove themselves in a new league. (Something in which Taiwo is very keen to do). Three: Quality free signings.
Young is a slightly different kettle of fish. After a very, very good season at Villa (The two Villa games I have been to he has be fantastic), he will be very highly sought after. I imagine the top 6 will be battling it out for him over the summer. Liverpool may just be able to swing it with a guarantee of 1st team football, something I am not sure whether the rest of the top 6 (Arsenal aside) can offer.
If Christian Poulsen and Maxi Rodriguez leave as expected then there is a possibility of Charlie Adam joining.
Hope you find this helpful
The Matador
30 Mar 2011 15:03:34
Steve, of course you are correct with all of your points concerning talksport, however as bad as Irani and Durham are ( I would also include Mick Quinn, Cundy, Collymore, Saggers, Jacobs and Danny Kelly as truly awful presenters and I'm not even going to mention Keys and Gray! ) the people on there who talk the biggest load of total nonsense are without doubt the "football journo's". God they really know nothing! Why the breakfast show insists on having one on every morning between 7-7:30 (I call this muppetts half hour) is beyond me. Also as someone who has first hand knowledge I have to tell you the Irani is possibly the most gullible person I've ever met and also not too bright (as if you hadn't already worked that out).
So in a nutshell most of the presenters are crap most of the guests are crap it's full of adverts and I basically find myself listening these days for only 2 reasons
1 Brazil sometimes makes me smile
2 Paul Hawksbee is genuinely clever and funny
And yet I still can't bring myself to listen to 5 live!
30 Mar 2011 14:46:19
This is for ed's and steve p. I've been thinking if doing a football podcast style broadcast for a while. Daily clips and post from various participants, steve seems to have a way with words. And his post also are proving very popular. If there's someway via e-mail we could all mull it over let me know. Would also be great if some of the ed's would jump on board too, valued opinions always welcome.
Jim {Ed001's Note - I did look into doing it myself, but I don't have the technical expertise or the time to do it. I would be interested in contributing to one, often been asked by local BBC stations etc to contribute to their phone ins in the past, but they always get in touch at the last minute. They just don't give you any kind of warning and it is not that easy to just drop everything! Use the contact form if you want to get in touch and we can sort out something.}
30 Mar 2011 14:32:44
Kelly out for the rest of the season? is this true, ed?
nowt on lfc website about it? {Ed002's Note - I have no idea whether or not it is true, so I would wait until the club issue a statement or provide a medical update.}
30 Mar 2011 14:26:47
Steve Parker {Ed001's Note - ever thought of setting up your own football radio station? It is a thought that has crossed my mind many times, I think that is what needs to be done. Maybe start with an online one?}
I would love to, but sadly my finances are enough to keep me in the style to which I am not accustomed!
I would love a regular spot on the radio - imagine me being on talkSHI*E?
If there's anyone looking for a monthly columnist, please let me know.
Steve Parker
{Ed002's Note - There are a bunch of Internet Radio options available out there and there is no significant cost aside from having a decent means of audio capture. I have done plenty of internet based recording and transmission over recent years and, although we do have decent quality kit in the office, I have a portable travel kit which I have used from hotels. In terms of transmission, it would be better to record and then transmit from file as a stream which overcomes the most significant aspect of flakey/loss of connection. Certainly worth considering and a great way to get your anti-Brazil manifesto on the streets without having me edit it.}
30 Mar 2011 14:07:12
"Not so much The Madness, more a case of excess baggage today . . "
"Steve Parker, I just love your posts on here even though I don't always agree with them and sometimes you do waffle on a bit! When it comes to talksport I know most of it is absolute nonsense on there but I still enjoy listening, as you must do if you continue to listen. Keep up the good work!
From a REAL talksport legend
Chris in Tamworth"
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Please carry on not agreeing Chris - it isn't about words that are set in Papal stone, it's about banter and discussion. I can accept all, save for the waffle bit!
The talkSH**E issue is a serious one, albeit wrapped in bile and humour. The issue for football fans is that unless we submit to the station's banal chat and endless adverts (sometimes as much as 38% of each hourly slot) then there is precious little on radio for the football fan. The real crime with talkSH*T is that every so often they DO get someone interesting to talk to. Herein are the problems:
* they talk At the intervieweE, not to him
* they cut them off with a banal question, just as they are about to spill the beans and expose something exciting and interesting
* they break for ads at the most awkward times
* they have Irani and Durham - the 'me me me me me!' brigade
I appreciate they need averts = or no station.
What we need is for the BBC to stop pandering to the middle class elite, those that accept their middle of the road DULL chat and bring back people like Guillem Balague, Marcotti and Henry Winter . . people with ideas, strong views and inmteresting things to say.
Until then - we are saddled with the mediocre, cringeworthy, discredited, foolish and folksy people talkSH**E now have.
By the way - when did 'arry (goold old 'arry - we love him) meet "the boy Methuselah?"
A great example of we love him and we love us radio.
THIS IS WHY I GIVE TALKSH*T A HARD TIME.
. . . and they seem to dislike LFC!
Steve Parker {Ed001's Note - ever thought of setting up your own football radio station? It is a thought that has crossed my mind many times, I think that is what needs to be done. Maybe start with an online one?}
30 Mar 2011 14:07:56
Parker(y) = Legend
30 Mar 2011 14:09:50
You should know by now that anything Kuyt hits from any further out than 6 yards is a miss hit.!
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He's still got tone there to score them. No one complained when Rush and KK used to score from close in. A decent poacher is worth their weight in gold.
Newtydreads
30 Mar 2011 13:49:51
ANFIELD. . Got this txt. .Anfield road knocked down next year . .No away fans during the redevelopment. awayone hear anything. charlie.
{Ed002's Note - Why don't you wait for the Planning Application to go in then it will all be in the public domain and we can see the plans.}
30 Mar 2011 13:44:34
Steve Parker, I just love your posts on here even though I don't always agree with them and sometimes you do waffle on a bit! When it comes to talksport I know most of it is absolute nonsense on there but I still enjoy listening, as you must do if you continue to listen. Keep up the good work!
From a REAL talksport legend
Chris in Tamworth
30 Mar 2011 13:46:59
ED whats the chances of us singing ever banega?
jonny YNWA {Ed002's Note - 2/10}
30 Mar 2011 13:34:00
Cracks me up the amount of people who watch a match then think LFC should sign all the players that seem to have a good game - Idiots
Non of us will know what players KK and DC will have in mind, Liverpool are trying to do things as in the good old days behind closed doors.
Players that looked good in January's transfer market may not be right when the summer window comes around, lets just wait and see what happens!
The main thing that us LFC fans should be doing now is supporting and getting behind the players we have, Lucas, Johnson, Reina, Carra ive seen them all been slagged off on here but we need them to play their socks off for the next 8 games so lets stop think of replacements and dreaming of things to come and rally behind our team. .
Good luck to all the LFC squad for the remainder of the season, do us proud!
YNWA jns
30 Mar 2011 13:16:15
Any chance we'll go for James Milner? He'd work great in a midfield three of Gerrard, Meireles & himself.
-IamTheCosmos
30 Mar 2011 13:20:04
Still not convinced & still can't make any sense of why Charlie Adam is a transfer target. . do we REALLY need him? SingRed
no we dont, there are far better players out there than him, he's a big fish in a very little pond
30 Mar 2011 13:24:09
Steve Parker has once again hit the nail on the head with the bit about Pacheco. I think we should get rid and keep Ngog. At least the kid is big enough to handle the physical stuff. In between laughing out loud about his Brazilain stuff and talkSH**E - spot on as usual, I don't agree about Capello. I think he is worth the money if he gets us to a Euro final. But then I read his stuff again and think he's right that the man won't ever win us anything. Not sure I can make a real judgement.
Gr8 postings as always Steve.
BTW - I am one of those that loved The Killing.
N65
30 Mar 2011 13:26:35
Still not convinced & still can't make any sense of why Charlie Adam is a transfer target. . do we REALLY need him? SingRed
moussa sisokko of toulouse would be a far better option in my view as wud benega, javi martinez, pjanic an rento agusto
30 Mar 2011 13:31:04
Steve Parker, your post falls down a little when you pick on Wilshere for his "weird twisted mouth". What he looks like is of no relevance and just plain disrespectful in my opinion.
Isaac
30 Mar 2011 13:11:04
Still not convinced & still can't make any sense of why Charlie Adam is a transfer target. . do we REALLY need him? SingRed
30 Mar 2011 13:01:10
The Reina rumours will no doubt continue to surface in the coming months. If he wishes to go his options are very limited both in the UK and in Spain. In the UK the only possible vacancies are Arsenal and Man U. Given Sceizsnky (spelling?) progress this season Wenger the chances Wenger forking out £20-25m on Reina are remote. The only vacancy in the UK therefore appears to be joining whisky face who is clearly on the lookout for a top goalkeeper. In Spain Madrid have Casillas and whilst Barca would gladly replace their keeper with Reina, forking out £20m plus on Reina is unlikely to be high on their priority list. The only option in Spain would therefore be Atletico Madrid. If De Gea joins whisky face Atletico would have the money to replace him with Reina. Whilst Reina s father played for Atletico and Reina has previously expressed the desire to play at some point for Atletico, would he really want to move to a club who will struggle this season to qualify for Europe and who do not have the platform to enable him to regularly challenge for titles? IMO its either Man U or Reina stays put at Liverpool. If he were to move to Man U he will become the most hated figure in the history of our club. Reality Red
30 Mar 2011 12:44:43
Kranjar saying he's unhappy at spurs and looking for a way out. . . . . i'd defo take him! pretty good attacking midfielder and can play on the wing too?
30 Mar 2011 12:36:12
30 Mar 2011 09:34:43
Delighted to see Carroll score last night and hopefully he builds on that, good goal by Gyan too :) Thought Cahill played well at the back last night i was impressed with him. Anyone watch ROI & Uruguay? I thought their right winger Pereira & the guy that got the 3rd goal look like decent players. Great finish too by Cavani.
Kuyt got two got two goals for Holland last night, his second was a cracker! !
Barry B
His second was a miss hit cross you prat. watch it again and look at him when the others congratulate him. He evens hold his hands up to explain it was a fluke. You should know by now that anything Kuyt hits from any further out than 6 yards is a miss hit.!
Matt b
30 Mar 2011 12:06:45
Reply:{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the Red Sox transfer policy - they play a minimum of 81 home games a season: it is a whole different world. The money to be made available by NESV will largely come, in the first instance, from money generated by the club, which needs to be self-sufficient as we all know. The club are rid of the interest payments but do have significant one off payments to contend with this year. I think if you are expecting NESV to throw enormous sums of their own money in to transfers, you will have a bit of a long wait. I do however have no doubts that they will provided additional financing themselves as necessary - but will not want to pay over the odds players. Pastore is a very good player, but still young.}
Ed002, ed you say nesv to not throw money about?, but you really don't know what they will spend unless your a close friend of tom & john?, also you say don't expect them to pay over the odds?, well what do you think they did with andy carroll, pick him up in a car booty?. . {Ed001's Note - that was a desperate need to buy a striker, there is no desperate need to buy anyone, so the club is not going to be held to ransom just so you can get excited. They will not throw money around, they aren't playing FIFA or FM11, this is real life and they will be spending money in the right areas. The club makes a big profit, there is absolutely no need for them to dip into their pockets and I would prefer it that way. Let's just run our club the right way and not the Chelsea/Man City model like you seem to be expecting.}
30 Mar 2011 11:53:38
I can't see why most people have come to the conclusion that we will either adam or lucas at the club next year. if lpool are serious in wanting to build a strong squad then i see no reason why both lucas and adam can't be in the team. this means we can compete in all the competitions and have cover when players are injured
30 Mar 2011 11:49:39
Hi.
it seems that the eds don't rate alot of players posters mention, i was just wondering who you do rate? ?
matty b
{Ed002's Note - There are plenty of very good players around - already this morning I said that Pastore is a fine player, and over the weekend I said that Neymar and Ganso wer fine players as well. It is much easier to answer questions when they are put directly.}
30 Mar 2011 11:46:50
Steve parker u shud send ur posts to the radio and newspaperrs. LMFAO! loved the bit about Alan Brazil and talkSH*T
30 Mar 2011 11:42:38
Ed probably an annoying question but at this momment if u were a betting man who would u put your money on to come lfc?
Ant {Ed002's Note - We are not going to go down this route.}
30 Mar 2011 11:14:23
Ive heard wemite be in for renato agusto, if so then im happy about that as ive seen him in the europa league this year an hes bin really good
do you rate him ed ? {Ed002's Note - Not particularly.}
30 Mar 2011 10:59:14
Hi Eds,
Is it me or do we seem to get alot of groin and hamstring injuries, just in the last few weeks we have 3 groin(Kelly, Gerrard and Suarez)? These are worrying injuries as if you look at Owen and Torres they never seemed to get their pace back after? Maybe I am off the mark and other clubs get them but I don't take any notice of other clubs!
{Ed002's Note - All clubs have players who suffer common injuries.}
30 Mar 2011 10:36:41
SH*EP!
I wanted to be the first to ask if we were going to sign that big guy Carroll who scored on TV last night?
30 Mar 2011 10:26:40
Outs:
insua
maxi
konchesky
poulson
ngog
soto
sammy lee
ins:
sanchez
turan
young
cahill
baines
young
adam
kenny 2 year deal and transfer budget for summer
30 Mar 2011 10:16:35
Here come the posts 'we should sign Gyan'. And I'm first, he would be the right man in my opinion. Young-ish, Quality & a proven PL striker. However I'm sure he'll have a big price tag on his head. Thoughts Ed?
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Why would we go for Gyan tbh he's not good enough for us and wer talking about 13-17 mil for him and i hardly doubt suarez would welcome his move
p.s ed whats does imho mean
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I think imho means in my honest opinion.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we look at gyan in last summer and decided not to pursue him.
Maybe it was lack of funds I don't know.
LAVERS
30 Mar 2011 10:07:55
"The Madness of King Roy XXXVI"
Andy Carroll has a lot to prove. I know that because Capello said so (through a translator) and that must be right.
A very poor goal from him and Rooney or Terry or Lampardy could have done even better.
That must be right.
Why am I not amazed?
Tear into AC about his off the field behaviour and embarrass KK (who could not be trusted obviously, to deal with AC off the field) . . . . but not criticise Obscene Whinger's little boy with the odd twisted mouth (Wilshere) for his off the field thuggery . . leave OW to handle that privately.
I have NO time whatsoever for Capello.
Take the money and run is what he is doing and his refusal to learn the English language (he still needs a translator, don't be fooled by his performance last night) is shameful. After all, with a daily wage of £16, 478, he doesn't have the time to learn English.
Before you go, ask yourself exactly what he does during the week?
A part-time job on ludicrous money.
No wonder he has the time to shame our own manager.
GHANA: I do not bother with England games, save for when an LFC player is playing - and even then I miss most of those. I did watch the majority of last night's game and enjoyed Ashley Young and the Gyan. What was ludicrous was the Man of the Match to Downing. I think they meant, "England MoTM" as Gyan certainly outshone Downing in terms of creativity. I like Young and although he has his critics on here, he would be an excellent foil to AC and LS.
FENWAY PARK: I have no doubt that Fenway Park could host a pre-season game. I lived in NYC for many years and the Red Sox were my favourite weekend team when it came to supporting baseball. The drive up to Boston was worth it just for the social aspects. Having hosted the Sporting v Celtic game in 2010, the place can easily handle football. They even have an ice rink during the winter on the surface. We should be applauding this idea as it will help us get even deeper into the US soccer scene.
PACHECO: Don't cry for Pacheco if he is shown the door - for that is what may happen. I have no personal knowledge, but 'my spies' (that dull old cliche) tell me that he is not the world's perfect trainer. Then again, how many big players are in that mould? Treason I know, but I wonder if we can do without him? I have been unimpressed with him in the last three games he appeared in for the first team. We are all experts, but this one suggests that like Spearing, his size will mitigate against him. Size? Relax, I mean his bulk. All well and good being very slightly built, but to succeed in the PL you need either guile or pace. Aaron Lennon manages the pace, but can't handle the physical. Pacheco doesn't have the speed and has not shown me that he has the guile. We're all experts . . .
BRAZIL!: I have hijacked my own post!
talkSH**E is addicative as bad television. (Just as a sarcastic aside: I revelled in the complex plotting of The Killing on BBC4 - stunning. Can't wait for the US remake with Will Ferrell and Jennifer Aniston!)
Anyway . . Alan Brazil was talking with Uruguyuan Gus Poyet this morning about his excellent work at Brighton. Despite the England game, the performance of MOTM, Downing, Capello's ongoing traumas and the world of football moving on, Big Alan Brazil (big everywhere these days) asked Poyet if he was as close to personal orgasm as the fat Scot over Neymar and Lucus. I ask you! Brazil and Uruguay have been at poltical odds for more than 90 years and yet the cliche ridden barrel still has to bang on about Samba lovelies. Is the world not enough for these people?
I don't know why I am so anti-Brazil. I am Big Steve Parker. I am Parker-y, one of "de lads" and "a real f**c***G football fan m8!" and so "what do you know about the game geezer?" and so before I glug that last swollee of ma lager, I'm gonna grab my pitbull's lead and tell any geezer within earshot that "real fans" LOVE Brazil coz us ladz love a bit of Samba and all associated with it. Goes down a treat with me kebab and chips down Scottie Road after a game!
My God, to think Bootle is but a breath away.
Steve Parker (y)
P.S. Big Steve Parker to you in radioland!
30 Mar 2011 09:34:43
Delighted to see Carroll score last night and hopefully he builds on that, good goal by Gyan too :) Thought Cahill played well at the back last night i was impressed with him. Anyone watch ROI & Uruguay? I thought their right winger Pereira & the guy that got the 3rd goal look like decent players. Great finish too by Cavani.
Kuyt got two got two goals for Holland last night, his second was a cracker! !
Barry B
30 Mar 2011 08:58:25
Here come the posts 'we should sign Gyan'. And I'm first, he would be the right man in my opinion. Young-ish, Quality & a proven PL striker. However I'm sure he'll have a big price tag on his head. Thoughts Ed?
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Why would we go for Gyan tbh he's not good enough for us and wer talking about 13-17 mil for him and i hardly doubt suarez would welcome his move
p.s ed whats does imho mean
RED SKETTLE
{Ed002's Note - I am sorry but I am not really hip to all of this gangster rap style notation. I suggest you Google it.}
30 Mar 2011 03:39:40
Ed- do you see Kenny going for Afellay? Rumour is that he unhappy at the Nou Camp because of lack of games. His link-up with Dirk was excellent; imagine him + Kuyt + Suarez. . wow! SingRed
{Ed002's Note - The is a chance of Affelay if the club are interested. So you would leave Carroll on the bench?}
30 Mar 2011 04:27:23
29 Mar 2011 22:43:36
He signed with Liverpool in 2007 not sure if he is just out on Loan to Twente. Hope this helps.
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No, we sold him ages ago. Since then he's suddenly become brilliant, though - not surprised, I always that he had something.
Martin
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hes 22 and no we sold him last summer (2010) to fc twente for 1.8m euros on a 3 year deal. he was just loaned to them form 2007/ 2010
30 Mar 2011 05:37:11
In:
Ansaldi £6m
Banega £14m
Cahill £14m
Young £15m
Adam £8m
Benzema £22m
Albrighton £8m
£87m
Out:
Aquilani £14m
Jovanovic £4m
Ngog £5m
Konchesky £1.5m
Poulsen £3
Cole £4m
Maxi £5m
Degen £3m
El Zhar £1.5m
£42m
Net spend: £45m
30 Mar 2011 07:59:55
Lucas Leiva to be sacrificed to make way for Charlie Adam
The Liverpool midfielder Lucas Leiva is set to move away from Anfield after not being offered a new contract. The Brazilian international is nearing the last 12 months of his current deal at Anfield, and the club have given no indication they will look to extend his stay.
The Daily Mirror are reporting that football director Damien Comolli is preparing to offload the Brazilian in the summer and Serie A side Napoli look to be a possible destination for him.
Would you rather keep Lucas - believable or sign Adam (poss a one season wonder) - unbelievable
RedDan
30 Mar 2011 08:26:34
I'd say go for Matt Jarvis in the summer! Decent winger, young, and could develop into something big. Much less expensive than A.Young, and he got his England debut last night! Ed, do u think we'll be pursuing Jarvis in the summer?
{Ed002's Note - I think it is a possibility.}
30 Mar 2011 08:37:38
Sad to see Kelly has had a reoccurance of his hamstring injury and is out for the rest of the season.
I really hope I am wrong as this lad is class but he does seem to have lots of injury problems and we have already enough 'sick notes' on our books
30 Mar 2011 02:55:46
This would be nice and realistic in the Summer. (Please post on banter or rumours ed).
In: Ashley Young - £15m, Charlie Adam - £8m, Matt Jarvis - £10m, Jose Enrique - £8, Scott Dann - £10m. That totals about £43m and if we put £20m or so aside for a marquee striker that Dalglish is supposedly targeting then it turns out to be a very good Summer, especially with the additions of three English players to go with Kelly, Johnson, Carra, Gerrard, Shelvey and Carroll, along with a British player to add with Wilson which gives us a nice British contingent in our squad.
30 Mar 2011 02:48:39
{Ed005's Note - I didn't see the game. And none are good enough for Liverpool.}
Ed005 I have to disagree with you, while I am Irish I would normally completely agree with you on this point but there are two players in the squad I think would be great additions to Liverpool James McCarthy and Aiden McGeady. I think McCarthy is one of the most promising center midfielders playing in the PL at the moment. He is only 20 and looks to be improving with every game and if we got him at the end of the season he would cost under 10 mil i think. When you look at someone like Rodwell who i believe is equall in ability (although more physically mature) would cost at least twice as much. As for McGeady I always taught he wouldn't be good enough, looked good in Scotland but would struggle in a better league. But since moving to Russia he has excelled. He has always had good skill and control, but seems to have added more grit to his game (rarely gets bullied off the ball) better end product (since moving to his natural side on the right) and seems to be using his head a bit more as he is looking to play the pass as he beats a player instead of running into dead ends. For me he would be a great signing if he can continue this progress and would we would have to pay 3 or 4 times as much for someone with the same ability to beat an opponent. Ed what do you think? Are they targets for what you know? {Ed001's Note - McCarthy would be worth a look, we were interested in the past, like McGeady he is a player Kenny rates highly. But I don't know if we are looking at either, even though I know that McGeady was trying to get away from Russia in January as he doesn't like it there. Apparently he can't even leave the house without an armed guard! I would certainly not be surprised if we moved for him and I am trying to find out if there has been any contact. As for McCarthy, it will come down to whether Wigan stay up or not as to what happens with him. He is still a young lad and is ambitious, he won't stay if they get relegated.}
Thanks for the responce Ed, Im glad you said Kenny rates him and I hope Comolli and the scouts have been keeping an eye on him in Russia, my mate living in Russia said he is playing some good stuff and is rated by many as the best player in the league, ahead of Honda who alot of people are hoping we are looking at also. One last thing Ed are we seriously interested in Gary Cahill? I taught he was terrible tonight and I have always personally believed he was rated so highly because of his goal scoring exploits. Do you think he would be good enough? I would prefer Scott Dann {Ed001's Note - I have no knowledge of any interest in Cahill, doesn't mean there is none though, but I hope there isn't as I think he is a hoofer.}
30 Mar 2011 02:43:44
Realistic starting XI for the 2011/ 12 season:
Reina
Kelly - Skrtel/ Carragher - Agger - Baines
G. Johnson - Gerrard/ Meireles - Lucas/ Adam - Young
Suarez - Carroll
Carragher will most likely be pushed more into the coaching role next year as a player/ coach. Skrtel may be replaced by Dann. Carragher will over the summer, drill into the two centre backs, the organisational skills that were lacking earlier in the season when he was out with injuries.
Playing four across midfield, expect us to play more in a diamond formation, with Lucas/ Adam being the holding midfielder. With Johnson and Young, expect them to change sides regularly to keep defenders on their toes. With Young constantly cutting in, expect Young to pass off to Baines if there is no shot on for a cross in to Carroll.
Expect Bojan to come in on loan in the summer with an option to buy in January.
Overall signings: Baines, Young, Bojan, Adam with a possible centre back, Dann. If one of the English players aren't signed, expect foreign replacements Dzudszak, M'Vila.
RMD
Y.N.W.A
30 Mar 2011 02:11:59
{Ed005's Note - I didn't see the game. And none are good enough for Liverpool.}
Ed005 I have to disagree with you, while I am Irish I would normally completely agree with you on this point but there are two players in the squad I think would be great additions to Liverpool James McCarthy and Aiden McGeady. I think McCarthy is one of the most promising center midfielders playing in the PL at the moment. He is only 20 and looks to be improving with every game and if we got him at the end of the season he would cost under 10 mil i think. When you look at someone like Rodwell who i believe is equall in ability (although more physically mature) would cost at least twice as much. As for McGeady I always taught he wouldn't be good enough, looked good in Scotland but would struggle in a better league. But since moving to Russia he has excelled. He has always had good skill and control, but seems to have added more grit to his game (rarely gets bullied off the ball) better end product (since moving to his natural side on the right) and seems to be using his head a bit more as he is looking to play the pass as he beats a player instead of running into dead ends. For me he would be a great signing if he can continue this progress and would we would have to pay 3 or 4 times as much for someone with the same ability to beat an opponent. Ed what do you think? Are they targets for what you know? {Ed005's Note - As I said before, I hear good things about McCarthy but I haven't seen much of him. As for McGeady, never been convinced about him. He's not yet proven himself in a top league. Sure its all well playing against League One standard opposition in Scotland and a poor league in Russia. Spartak Moscow would want atleast the £10m they paid for him, perhaps more. Surely you aren't saying we'd have to play 3 or 4 times that for a player of equal ability? Personally, I think a player of better ability could be attained for equal the price McGeady would cost. You may think someone like McGeady is good enough for Liverpool but with all respect I've heard Republic of Ireland fans telling me that the likes of Kevin Doyle, Shane Long and Richard Dunne are good enough for Liverpool (among other players) for many years, and even Robbie Keane. He was proven in a top league like the PL, unlike McGeady, and he couldn't hack it.}
30 Mar 2011 02:11:59
{Ed005's Note - I didn't see the game. And none are good enough for Liverpool.}
Ed005 I have to disagree with you, while I am Irish I would normally completely agree with you on this point but there are two players in the squad I think would be great additions to Liverpool James McCarthy and Aiden McGeady. I think McCarthy is one of the most promising center midfielders playing in the PL at the moment. He is only 20 and looks to be improving with every game and if we got him at the end of the season he would cost under 10 mil i think. When you look at someone like Rodwell who i believe is equall in ability (although more physically mature) would cost at least twice as much. As for McGeady I always taught he wouldn't be good enough, looked good in Scotland but would struggle in a better league. But since moving to Russia he has excelled. He has always had good skill and control, but seems to have added more grit to his game (rarely gets bullied off the ball) better end product (since moving to his natural side on the right) and seems to be using his head a bit more as he is looking to play the pass as he beats a player instead of running into dead ends. For me he would be a great signing if he can continue this progress and would we would have to pay 3 or 4 times as much for someone with the same ability to beat an opponent. Ed what do you think? Are they targets for what you know? {Ed001's Note - McCarthy would be worth a look, we were interested in the past, like McGeady he is a player Kenny rates highly. But I don't know if we are looking at either, even though I know that McGeady was trying to get away from Russia in January as he doesn't like it there. Apparently he can't even leave the house without an armed guard! I would certainly not be surprised if we moved for him and I am trying to find out if there has been any contact. As for McCarthy, it will come down to whether Wigan stay up or not as to what happens with him. He is still a young lad and is ambitious, he won't stay if they get relegated.}
30 Mar 2011 02:00:22
What makes a team effective is the right blend of players. The most effective in Liverpool s recent history was the class of 2008/ 2009 that team had balance . stoppers (Reina, Arbeloa, Hypia, Carra) creators (Aurelio, Agger, Riera, Xabi, Benayoun) destroyer s (Mascherano, Lucas), a warrior (Kuyt) and winners (Keane, FT, Gerrard).
It s also fair to say the winners can t score without the creators, the creators can t create without the ball winning destroyers and the whole team depends on the stoppers and infectious motivation of the warrior.
Kenny s task is to build a team consisting of all these key elements, individual talent is important but not as important as getting the right blend of talent.
Right now we have an effective starting 11. .stoppers (Reina, Kelly, Carra) creators (Agger, Meireles, Gerrard, Johnson), destroyer (Lucas) warrior (Kuyt) and winners (Suarez, Carroll). But our depth compared to 2008/ 2009 and inconsistency of our creators is piss thin and even back then at times we struggled for a winner.
We lack creativity and back bone and therefore need a very good LB (creative), CM (destroyer), LW (creator) and another winner (Winger / forward). All we need is 4 players; they don t need to be £30+m players (Augero, Neymar, Robben, Kaka, Pato, Ibrahimovic, Contreao, Alves) Around £15m to £25m is fine however they do need to be effective and the right type for Kenny to create the perfect blend.
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Best post on here for absolutely ages - well put and I totally agree.
Newtydreads
30 Mar 2011 01:44:34
The way i see it is we will get rid of players on loan so thats:
aqualani round bout 4m after payments
degen 2m
el zhar 2m
konchesky 2m
jones 2m
insua 3m
then squad players not up to scratch:
poulsen 3m
jovanovic 6m
maxi 3m
kyrgiakos 1m
28m from sales plus owners money
so 10 out possibly 6 in being 3 wingers, cdm, st, lb maybe if sales go ok a cm and cb making 8.
eccleston, ince, amoo, mavinga, pacheco, spearing, hansen, ngog all sent out on loan or sold, (if sold another 10m raised from all) so 38m plus owners money
wilson shelvey coady flannagan bouzanis sent on loan with view to recall if major injuries.
players in and realistic:
lb:cissokho, baines, enrique (one of)
cdm:sissoko, m'vila, martinez (one of)
lw:turan, dzuzdazk, marveaux (two of)
rw:payet, young, jarvis, gervinho (one of)
st:benzema, cavani (one of)
cm:adam, banega (one of)
cb:sahko, cahill, lovren, richards, mussachio (one of)
so 28m sales:
cissokho 14m lb
turan 14m lw
owners supply money for
sissoko 15m cdm
cavani 16m st
adam 8m cm
so 39m
if 10m extra from 1st loan list
payet 10m rw
marveaux free
if money spare:
cahill 15m or sakho 12m if we outpriced for cahill
dzuzdzak 12m
squad if we get all of above:
gk:reina, gulasci
rb:kelly, flannagan
cb:cahill, carra, wilson
cb:agger, skrtel, ayala
lb:cissokho, johnson, aurelio
rw:payet, cole
lw:turan, dzuzdzak, marveaux
cdm:sissoko, lucas
cm:adam, shelvey
cam:gerrard, meireles
st:suarez, cavani, carroll, kuyt
DORSET RED
30 Mar 2011 01:44:41
Carroll
Young - Suarez
Adam - Meireles - Gerrard
Johnson - Agger - Carragher - Kelly
Reina
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30 Mar 2011 00:49:06
I think tonight's game, and the Wales game, show that if we want to add width to our team then Ashley Young isn't the answer, certainly not on the left. He's right-footed and when on the left wing he just cuts in all of the time. If he did that for Liverpool it doesn't solve our width problem in the slightest.
Although you wonder where Kenny Dalglish plans on using him? Perhaps Kenny will use him on the right-wing? The wing where he played so well for Watford? That would be a better option if we did sign Young. He could run at full-backs and whip balls in. Although there would be nothing wrong with him switching to the opposite flank to cut in the odd time.
Certainly hope this is the case, because Young on the left is no solution to our problems in that area. Perhaps someone like Charles N'Zogbia would be a better option on that side.
Thoughts?
30 Mar 2011 00:28:16
Thanks for the quick response. and now that im at it, lol. since liverpool are in for another striker , what are the chances of signing falcao? I think he can add a different dimension to our attack.
Cease
30 Mar 2011 00:20:44
After seeing Young and Jarvis play tonight, Kenny has crossed them out fro the wish list. Source is as unreliable as reliable can be.
Bilbo Reddins