Liverpool Banter Archive June 30 2013

 

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30 Jun 2013 22:38:41
When will fans learn? Real Madrid cast offs ie callejon, are rubbish! We don't want them, I'd rather the money in full

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I'd take Morata all day if it was for 10m euros max.

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Jese Rodriguez in part exchange or straight cash for me.

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Because you seen YouTube?

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30 Jun 2013 22:17:27
Ed002 I know you don't like discussing money, but do you believe Mkhitaryan would be worth the initial £25 million pound transfer fee?
Personally I believe if he added another 20 goals we would be outscoring nearly all of our opponents and if the defense improves 4th would be a definite possibility and surely justify the price. {Ed002's Note - As I have said (seemingly endlessly), I think he is expensive.}

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I thought you said LFC considered him expensive I was unsure on you're own personal opinion thanks for clarifying {Ed002's Note - It was perfectly clear.}

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Actually he is already one of the worlds best players so 25 million is a bit of a bargain to be honest.

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Okay you said "which Liverpool see as expensive" sorry for bothering you, hope you have a wonderful day :)

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01 Jul 2013 19:16:25
Mate I'm sure Ed002 has forgotten more about football than you could ever know.

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30 Jun 2013 22:10:33
How many more signings do you think Liverpool need eds? And how many would you guess Rodgers is looking at?
Your thoughts would be appreciated.

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This is your stereotypical example, of why I feel sorry for these poor eds. I poster who clearly has no interest in putting in the time to read the posts, so asks are pretty lazy question. Should the Eds show the contempt it deserves by ignoring it? And risk getting abuse? ask them to RTP, still gets abuse.
My deepest sympathies.
Get some kip eds. It's going to be a long day tomorrow.
DaveyLiver

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Should we keep the squad we currently have I think we would need 3 more additions to the squad.

A left back to provide competition and cover for Enrique, a defensive midfielder to provide competition and cover for Lucas and another forward.

Obviously any players who leave the club will be replaced.

Red Rum

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30 Jun 2013 22:10:14
Hi edds, is there interest in callejon? I heard on the radio at work we are interested in signing him. Cheers {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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If you heard it on then treat it as the nonsense it is!

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30 Jun 2013 20:59:31
Can you answer a question please eds?
It seems as if our main target this summer is HM. There seems to be a few teams interested in him. Why have we not put a bid in yet for him? We know the asking price and without CL we cannot afford another team jumping in to try sign him. Is it that we want to agree the deal with him first to save face if he goes elsewhere? {Ed002's Note - The problem surrounds whether or not Liverpool wish to pay the price being asked - nothing else.}

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Are you saying ed that if we basically agree to the money being asked he's as good as ours? Meaning we are his preferred option.
Forgive me if I have been reading between the lines.

MIKEY {Ed002's Note - You are reading too much in to it.}

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He seems a very good player but the price and wages is ridiculous! I think 10m on Eriksen and give him big wages of 50-60k a week and he'd join.

Imagine a front four of:
Suarez. Eriksen. Coutinho.
Sturridge.

Plus: Aspas Suso Sterling Borini Alberto

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Erikson is less proven, yes he has the potential, and has shown great promise (not entirely consistently), but I think on this occasion Brendan see's Henrikh Mkhitaryan as the player who will guarantee what he wants in that position, otherwise we would have already been in for Erikson and probably signed him by now (especially given the money we're talking about). It would seem that we will find out sooner rather than later if he does join, or who Brendan see's as an alternative. But until I see it confirmed on the LFC website I will not believe it either way.

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If we don't get Micky, i'd say offer money for Tello. I don't see why we wouldn't be able to get him.

Depending on his price and player sales we might even be able to sign Erikson as well as keeping Suarez.

That would be ideal.

BKP

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Erikson is a non starter. Brendan doesn't think he has the right mentality to wear our shirt. If Micky doesn't sign, Rakitic of Seville is his second choice, but Brendan wants to push ahead with Micky knowing it will use up most of the Suarez cash. He has spoken with the player and is convinced he will sign this week.

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30 Jun 2013 22:15:18
Eds can you see us getting him cheaper then the asking price or are we wasting our time? {Ed002's Note - See above.}

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30 Jun 2013 20:08:37
some guy on a bike with a chain of onions round his neck just come up t me didn't say much but what I could make out swears to psg or suarez u do the math

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Where they red onions, White onions or shallots? Because it makes all the difference. lol

MIKEY

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That's shallot mikey.

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Thanks shallot!

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30 Jun 2013 21:13:48
I would think the mkhitaryan saga has a while to run yet, things can change so quickly some sources saying he will be joining others saying no the only thing that's fact is we are interested and the problem is purely money I hope we get him in the end, if we don't perhaps we won't sign anybody of that ilk right now but maybe we'll look at Dennis Praet again although I don't know what he offers over Suso, also I am really surprised we've shown no recent interest in Honda? Either way I'm sure we have plans in place should mkhitaryan not sign.

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He meet with spurs last week

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30 Jun 2013 21:06:33
So what's going to happen to all the grand plans of 'Life without Suarez' now then?
Answers on a postcard to Nevada, The Only Reds and the real AG please.
Second class stamp to keep the cost down of course.
The Juicer

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30 Jun 2013 21:51:40
I will wait until the window is closed to answer to your premature rant.
There are a 100 things that can still happen.
Or have I missed something and the season starts tomorrow?
Answers on a postcard please but use a 1st grade stamp so you're certain it comes forward.

[The only REDS]

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There's no 'rant' in 'banter'.
But I thought you had all the answers already?
The Juicer

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So, you are insinuating that Mkhitaryan was/is the only player that is comparable to Suarez in terms of ability who would want to join us? That is rather a very poor way to exercise your brain.

I have always maintained that Mickey was not the best option and still stick to that.

A very poor attempt at a dig from a Suarez supporter and a LFC FAN.

Oh, need I remind you that the transfer window only officially opens tomorrow, and that there will be another 2 months of it to go, and that LFC would have alternatives in mind in case Mickey deal doesn't happen?

The real AG

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There is if you play countdown! ;p

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30 Jun 2013 15:13:20
Hey Eds, great job as always. It was rumored at one point that Real Madrid were looking to offer a player plus cash for suarez - Callejon supposedly. What your thoughts on him? Would you prefer to get him plus cash or do you think straight out cash is more favorable?
Dani {Ed030's Note - I don't like Callejon and I don't think Liverpool should accept any deal involving him. }

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Id rather Ian Callaghan came out of retirement than us sign Callejon!

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30 Jun 2013 20:34:58
Ed apparently Artur Pertosyan and Alexey Yaroshevsky (respected Russian journalists) are saying Mickey will soon be an LFC player. Others are saying he is going to Dortmund. Now Ed I know you said you know of no agreement but has anything changed (e.g. bid made, quotes from the club) which I've missed? Cheers mate.
ROI.

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Although I wouldn't believe any one unless they worked for LFC I think that these two guys are legit, that doesn't mean that they are correct but I would believe those two over most others in this situation.

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30 Jun 2013 20:31:33
Dzeko or Benteke! I still think either would be top drawer for us if LS goes

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Benteke all day long mate

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I see this a lot on here. Can someone explain to me where you see Benteke fitting in given that we've got Sturridge, Coutinho, Aspas, Downing, Alberto, etc? Is he a sub or are you saying move to 2 up top or pushing Sturridge wide (or something else)? I just don't see where Benteke would fit in?

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I'd like him and Sturridge to play together at home.
Play 1 upfront in hard away matches.
They could rotate away or if losing play both upfront again.
I know what you mean about him not fitting in possibly but we can't go into another season with just one up top option yet again.
Sturridge might get injured.
What then?
Borini?
Not sure he can carry the burden so young.
We need progress in the league this season so can't afford to take the chance really.

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How do United fit RVP, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Young, Valencia, Nani and Kagawa in their team? Daft question mate. Sturridge is versatile and so he and Benteke could play in the same team or we have a great sub. It's called strength in depth. If Sturridge gets injured we are relying on Borini who is unproven in the Prem.

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Fit in into what?like we play the best football in the world. if suarez goes and we go for benteke sturridge drops to the bench simple as that

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And don't forget Suarez.

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The only possible way to fit them both in would be to play the 442 system. Sturridge and Benteke up front, Coutinho on the left and Aspas on the right with Lucas and Gerrard in midfield, but I cannot see Rodgers changing his style of play after playing a full season with the 433 system. However, I do think it would be good competetively to have several players fighting for 1 striker position using the 433 formation.

Having Benteke, Sturridge and Borini would mean there would still be strength within the depth should Suarez leave and I presume Aspas will be played on the right.

Taking all into account I would prefer Suarez to stay, because even though he has caused several problems for the club in the past he is the type of player who can make the difference between finishing in the top four and not quite making it.

Red Rum

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01 Jul 2013 01:28:17
You play sturridge in the hole off benteke with coutinho left and aspas right, rotating where appropriate. I honestly reckon that sturridge and benteke together is one of the scariest things I've heard (not Madrid related) all summer

Alvy

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Interesting thoughts and it's appreciated to all for the responses. Guess I just don't see it happening without the sale of one Sturridge or Borini, but suppose we'll see.

I do expect another player, like Mkhitaryan, who can play wide or central, but a purely central striker like Benteke I don't see on the cards personally.

I also think comparing us to United is not the most logical thing. A) they have a lot of money and B) they are in Europe and therefore have more games and C) they do have issues with players being unhappy about playing out of position, e.g. Rooney. Same at City with Tevez being not too happy at sitting on the bench. You can do that for a while, but after a bit I really don't see one of Sturridge/Benteke sticking around to sit on ours. Plus that pretty much puts Borini in the reserves and I can't see him being happy about that either.

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Also forgot to ask, why do so many people seem to want to force Sturridge to the bench? Cause I thought he played really well for us from January until the end of the season and I'm not sure what more you expect from the player. 10 goals and 5 assists in 14 league games seems pretty decent to me.

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I am surprised Liverpool haven't been looking at Dzecko should Suarez leave. He is premiership proven, scores goals for fun but spends most of the time warming City's bench.I think he would be a good option. Maybe wages are the problem.

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30 Jun 2013 20:28:14
We should break the bank for Toby Alderweireld, I think he is the dog's doodah's, just the player we need!

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He would cost around 7 million, we don't need to even pick the lock for the Bank for this one, if we want him.

The real AG

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30 Jun 2013 20:20:52
Has anyone actually within the club confirmed a buy out clause of 40m in Suarez contract?
I have to say I personally do not believe we agreed to such a clause.
Either way, the sooner we get him out the better.
Great great player, but a lousy human being with the mentality of a spoilt child.
Don't want him spreading ill feeling around the playing staff if he stays.
I know people are split nearly 50 - 50 on this but that's one thing he's done over the last 18 months - split the club down the middle.
Look at how he made a legend like Kenny look last year with that fiasco, nearly ruined the reputation of our greatest player / personality. Kenny deserved better than that, probably why he was sacked. He got us to 2 cup finals in his first full season after all which was a good effort.
If he stays I really don't know if I could support him anymore. The man just courts controversy and seems to need to be centre of attention when it's the club that matters most.
Good bye, good riddance Suarez and good luck with him Real Madrid. He'll settle well with other cheats like Pepe if he stays, Ramos and the like.
Ta ra chook

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Get a grip will you please and show some respect for one of our team! Suarez has and always will give 100% to this club. He has been singled out by the UK press who reel in keyboard warriors like you like dumb fish.

If he does leave ( not confirmed yet ) he will leave with my best wishes. He is a decent family man who has been treated badly by the UK press and the FA.

If he stays then great, he will always get my support, he is world class. If he leaves we have to move on. The cash from his sale may be just what the club needs to move on to the next phase.

Tel 1949

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Decent family man? Sorry mate but he's as mad as a box of frogs.

I will miss his goals and his work ethic, but it seems he's only put in all that hard work to get himself a move to madrid. He cares very little about Liverpool or it's fans.

MIKEY

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Don't really care for your opinion Tel considering the way you just abruptly stuck your nose in.
Reel your nose back in eh!

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He's so decent that he bites people on a football field. That's assault where I come from. Not just once either.
You're wrapped in red cotton balls Tel I'm afraid.
We won't even mention the other incident.
He's now even been caught lying about an incident in Manchester.
Unwrap yourself fella and see the light.
Suarez is bad news.
Only a matter of time before he leaves us down again.

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I agree that, on the pitch, Suarez generally gives 100% (albeit I could really do without the moaning at other players, the moaning at the refs, the dives, the biting, the questionable tackles, hand balls, constant attempts at nutmegs which rarely came off, etc.) but since I know nothing of the UK media and I still hope he leaves it's pretty hard to say that everyone that thinks so has been 'reeled in' by anyone other than their own opinion based on his actions.

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Well said Tel, but your wasting your time mate, there turning on a player who we are linked with now because he might be keeping his options open and talking to other clubs, it's best to blank pretty much 80% of the posters on here as they have got there liverbird tinted specs welded on, you have more chance of playing snooker with a piece of rope than seeing an unbiased genuine opinion on here, most are brainwashed by the L.F.C. Channel.

Waro

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Come on Tel. You can't blame the press. They aren't makin the stuff up about Suarez. The guy is a superstar, a tremendous player but anything the press write about him he brought on himself.

The Irish Rover

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That's right turn on the player who played his socks off for us last season. so what if he wants to leave. his ćhoice!

Gutter press singling out our player for abuse and you so called fans jumping on the bandwagon. Ridiculous!

M

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Suarez: win at all costs personality.
Dubious morals and ethics.

Would Shanks entertain him? I'm doubtful. Shanks had no time for players who were unavailable. Suarez has been banned for 18 games in 2 and a half seasons. That's not to mention the stamps, the niggly fouls, the handball at Macclesfield or his history pre-LFC. Fabulous player on the field, but just too much disruption and baggage with him.
Had he not tried to engineer a move this summer and blamed others for his flaws then maybe I'd feel different, but this is a player who will NEVER learn.
If the money is right, sell him, but don't get screwed in the transfer market AGAIN.

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Mikey, Rdl, Irish Rover, well said boys.
Agree with pretty much all you said.
We're better off without him now.
As good as he is, he's left the club and the real fans of Liverpool down badly.
We don't need the controversy he generates and boy does he bring it on himself.
Anyone who says different needs to go to Specsavers.
Can his supporters truly say they're proud of the way he's carried on?
I can't believe they could but nothing should surprise us eh.

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I am a LFC supporter Waro, I rather keep my Liverbird tinted specs all the time. That way, I support the club, and not an individual, who has shown no respect towards the club, everything it stands for, his colleagues and us, the supporters.

The real AG

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I still can't get me head around certain posters on here defending potential players who are keeping there options open to join other clubs.

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I don't believe some of these responses, do you not understand the meaning of respect, and respecting that other people may have different views. There is no need for sarcasm, or smart apsed responses. If you can't see the manipulation by the UK press, just to sell more papers, I give up. I don't have to wind my neck in, just stating it how I feel. John Terry and his treatment comes to mind!

Suarez was HOUNDED by the UK press and slaughtered by the FA. The press were foaming at the mouth like mad dogs trying to do a character assassination on Suarez for months, and it sound like some of you actually believed the gutter press. At one point you would think that only Suarez ever dived in the UK. It was just unbelievable. I have a sympathy for the way Suarez, quite rightly, believes he has been unfairly treated in the UK. Everyone knew that he wouldn't win Player of the Year even though we all knew he deserved it after his heroics with LFC. He was brilliant.

Sorry but in my eyes, your not supporters if you start slagging our players off. Our task is to support our team, not get into politics or believe the UK gutter press. If he plays for LFC, he's one of ours, and we should support him, end of in my book.

Im sorry guys but your views just do not match mine, and never will. let's just leave it at that.

Tel 1949

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To the no name poster asking if his supporters are proud of him for his actions. Quite frankly, I couldn't care less about what he says or does, all I care about is that LFC's only world class player and our best player looks to be heading somewhere else next season. I for one will be greatly disappointed if he isn't wearing our shirt next season.

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"Sorry but in my eyes, your not supporters if you start slagging our players off". Really.
So honestly Tel, you have never slagged a player off? wtf.
Come on fella that's bare faced.
Suarez has almost done more damage to this club than Souness (and that takes some doing!)
He is a disgrace and if he was a carp player then he would have left the club after his 1st misdemeanor but the problem we have with him is that he is 1 of the best players in the world. Full stop. I washed my hands with him a while ago but if he does stay then I will support any player who runs out in a red shirt regardless of whether I feel he is a n*b.
What can I do about it?
That may be hypocritical but football is built on hypocrisy. In my humble opinion.
Having said all that waffle, I do respect the opinion's of fans who don't agree with me. They are just wrong that's all!!:)

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I 100% agree with Waro here. We have to trawl through so much rubbish to read the few good and less unbiased posts I really pity the Eds!

At least half the posts aren't signed off so who's opinion is it then, some fools probably post completely contrasting opinions and we don't know as they just don't sign off on them. Anyone they want that we're linked with is absolutely brilliant (even if people have never seen them) and any rival teams' players are automatically absolute pants!

Believe what you say and stick to it, if people don't agree then it's good to have valid points why but how can you debate things with anymous posters.

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! The biggest hypocritical post/reply the poster after jonnybarness89-90.

You don't like anonymous posters huh Mr. anonymous poster?

The real AG

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Omg. that was me above agreeing with Waro, got interrupted in work half way through and got logged out! Typical timing.

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30 Jun 2013 20:20:46
Why are people complaining that we need to find the next stars and bargain buys, then say they are not good enough for us because they are not already stars and proven quality.

Stars need to start somewhere and make that step up, we should not think we are above everyone else and simply nick all the best players. It is too costly and sometimes doesn't work out.

We have to find our own talent by buying them when they start developing into stars, like coutinho and sturridge, rather than doubting their ability and flinging criticism left, right and centre. Everyone has to start somewhere.

Anonymous woolback

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30 Jun 2013 20:16:35
As long as HM doesn't go to Spurs I couldn't care less where he ends up.

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If he does end up at the spuds, I hope
He flops harder than Andy "donkey" Carrol.

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30 Jun 2013 19:58:34
Is Michael Bradley attracting attention from any clubs? {Ed002's Note - Search function.}

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Ed not to be rude but I tried the search function and came up with nothing {Ed002's Note - Assume not then. Looks like the post was deleted.}

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Bradley is awful. I don't want him near Anfield. I watch him play regularly for the U.S. national team and there's nothing special at all.

NDred

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30 Jun 2013 19:57:02
Hi eds. just wandering do you think HM will join us rather than have CL football somewhere else. Also do you have any info on who we might be after in the centre back position. Great website eds. keep up the good work

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I think I know what's going on here.
There must be a link to this site from "the internet for dummies" page.
They're teaching how to scroll down a page over there this month a reliable source from within their club has informed me.
Next month I believe they'll be teaching the "dummies" how to read the pages they're scrolling down.
Problem solved next month then?
I'm guessing no.

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Would genuinely like to count up the number of times the Ed's end up putting "RTP", or "try the search function please". It may be my imagination, but I'm sure (and I don't blame them) that there's been even less of that recently, it must be driving the Ed's insane. Keep going Ed's, only another 2 months of the transfer window left ;-) {Ed002's Note - More and more posts are being deleted.}

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30 Jun 2013 19:47:31
Now once looks like off to Cardiff ed do we get any of the money from it {Ed002's Note - I don't know the details.}

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Once is good but he's only half the player twice is

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Neither of them are a patch on Thrice though

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Suarez is pure quality so would like him to stay from a pure footballing point of view - however; the guy needs to learn to keep his mouth shut! I fully supported him throughout the Evra saga but I cringe now everytime I hear he's done another interview - why the club didn't sen someone with him to babysit I don't know lol - from that perspective he's becoming an embarassment and I think he'll still go. However; I like the fact it appears we won't be bullied on the price IMO £40m is prob about right, with all the suspensions, attitude etc we are never going to get the £60m some are looking for.

Swallybean

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30 Jun 2013 19:39:26
Mkhitaryan not signing because our nuber 7 is staying for 1 more year I know some will not be pleased with this but let's just wait and see before u have a go with me try the search I only say something if it legit. YNWA andy08

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30 Jun 2013 19:36:35
i think if we miss out on mkhitaryan then we should go for atsu and tello to add quality for less money

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Just Tello please

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Atsu would only be a squad player at best

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Eriksen would cost around 10m! Delefou would also be a great signing if Barca would let him move!

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30 Jun 2013 19:16:23
If Suarez goes to Real then we should seriously try and get a player or two in return. Morata, Higuain and Callejon are names that come to mind. Say together Higuain and Callejon are roughly 30-35m Then we could try and pull of two players for one maybe with extra 5m or so?

Or if just one player plus 15-25m with that extra cash. BUY A CB! that extra cash could afford papa the greek from Schalke. or Alderweireld. I'm just saying we should really consider this becasue at the end of it I'd rather have Callejon and Higuain or one of the three madrid players plus a very good CB instead of Suarez. {Ed002's Note - Higuain and Callejon are on their way elsewhere.}

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Where is callejon going ed? {Ed002's Note - Napoli.}

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Ozil will do then :-D {Ed002's Note - That is not going to happen.}

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30 Jun 2013 19:10:27
Why is it that we are going for all these attacking players? We already have a lot of talent there especially after two more additional singings. We've already proved in 2013 how good we are going forward now. I get that we have interest in Ilori and we had interest in Papadopoulos but if we are making all these early signings why don't we buy a good (preferably young) CB or one with mad potential. Understandably we decided not to get Papa when he would cost too much but we really do need a solid CB to partner Agger. Toure is back up, Skrtel has lost his quality a bit. Coates not even sure why he hasn't gone yet. Wisdom looks set to go out on loan. Quite clearly we were rubbish in defence at times last season. We should really try and push for someone like Alderweireld, Zouma (potential is quality), Sakho or Wanyama? I know Wanyama isn't often played in CB but he has defensive qualities that we do need also could provide cover in multiple positions.

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30 Jun 2013 19:09:56
With doubts starting to arise about any potential HM deal, presumably BR will have alternatives in mind. Is it possible that Eriksens name will be considered especially if HM goes to Dortmund? Who themselves were linked with Eriksen?

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Eriksens well history now mate, we won't be signing him

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30 Jun 2013 19:05:42
One question for all the people calling Mkhitaryan a marquee signing, and calling him names because he might want to go to a club giving him bigger wages or CL football.

How many of you have seen him perform in a full game? - he scored a lot of goals in the Russian League - by no means the best League, Darren Bent scored a lot of goals, AC scored a lot of goals, the list is endless of players having a good season, scoring a lot of goals, being sold for silly money, moving up a league and not being able to reproduce that form.

If he signs for us, he could turn out to be a great signing, but he could just as well turn out to be a Voronin, Aquilaini, Karl Heinze, Morientes etc etc

{Ed002's Note - Mkhitaryan has never played in the in Russian League.}

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He plays in the Ukraine league. Lol

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Ha ha
Don't seem too much yerself there mate

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Because people watched him scouts hence his price tag he never played in the Russian league so your clearly clueless but also he scored 25 goals in the league I believe nobody scored as many in one season in the Ukraine league so it ain't that easy pal

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Darren Bent is a bad example to use as he has scored wherever he's gone

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Awkwaaaaard!

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I agree Chris - I got it wrong, it is the Ukrainian league, but there isn't much difference between them - I have watched every supposed superstar come to Liverpool since 1959, and those that have gone to other clubs as well, some have surprised us, but some have not.

My point, ignoring my stupidity not writing Ukrainian League instead of Russian is purely - people on this sight having a go at Mkhitaryan because he may sign for someone else - the lad hasn't proved himself at what I would consider the highest level that's all. Even his international goals have been mostly against weaker opposition.

I do believe he would be a good signing, but not the end of the world if he doesn't. And for the anonymous poster who said our scouts have watched him hence the price - those same scouts may have watched Voronin, Dundee, Erik Meijer etc etc - they do make mistakes sometimes.

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Mkhitaryan is a very good player but for the kind of fee we will have to pay to get him (probably will be over 35 million pounds including agents fee), he is not worth going for in my opinion.

If we could spend the bulk of the 40 million or so we probably will get from Suarez's sale, I would go for a striker rather than an attacking midfielder as we already have Coutinho, Alberto and Suso, while Apsas can also play as a 'Number 10'.

The real AG

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30 Jun 2013 21:04:22
Sorry Ed002 - I should have said Ukrainian, but neither of them are PL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga or even Eredivisie quality as a whole.

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01 Jul 2013 00:01:43
I'm sorry to burst you bubble mate. (John B)
The Ukrainian league is much stronger than the Dutch league. Just because you don't follow it doesn't change the fact that are much more money and better players from south America there.

Watch a game with Metalist or Dinamo Kiev and look how far Shaktar came in the CL compared to the best teams in Holland.

The Russian league is beginning to attract some top top players as well and will soon be a major league in European football. Money is the reason leagues get better, and until the Dutch league stumbles upon a Sheikh it will always be a feeder league.

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Take it you don't count him playing in the Champions league as a test

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30 Jun 2013 18:55:20
Anyone know if Paul Tompkins is a reliable source?
Think I've seen him on LFC tv in the past.
Is he a journo?

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His articles are a very good read and he has close ties with LFC, so I would say yes.

The real AG

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Thanks, ya I tthought that was him alright mate.
It's just he retweeted a tweet from Shaktar UK that we would be signing Mkhitaryan in a day or two.
I'm sceptical myself.
Cheers

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01 Jul 2013 11:18:48
I would think he is trying to be optimistic and keep the fans in an optimistic mood.

I would suggest you read upon what Ed002 has to say, he is the best source of Info as far as I am concerned.

The real AG

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30 Jun 2013 18:21:06
Respected Ed's,
Hope everything is fine with you and really great work on all the articles by all ed's.
I just wanted to have your opinion on mkhitaryan will he sign or not

Lfc 4 life {Ed002's Note - I have explained matters as I know them.}

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30 Jun 2013 18:19:56
Is Mkhitaryan worth £20-25 million? And is he better than Eriksen who would surely cost less?

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For me, I do think he's better than Eriksen, although to be fair I'm not a huge fan of Eriksen to be honest. That said, I'm not sure he's worth 25M-30M he'd likely end up costing which is I suspect precisely the same discussion being held amongst the transfer committee.

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Different types of players, Eriksen is more like Coutinho, creative and makes great passes but Mkhitaryan finishes off the chances. He could be lethal with Coutinho supplying him

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Mickey would cost close to 35 million pounds including agents fee, and no, I don't think he is worth us paying that much, and no, I don't think Eriksen is the kind of player we want in our squad now.

The real AG

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30 Jun 2013 18:10:37
With Macca suggesting Mkhitaryan will now not sign and the general indications suggesting he will not, do the Ed's have any idea who the next target to be perused will be if anyone, as I assume there will be the money availible.

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30 Jun 2013 17:52:36
Eds, I know you stated about a week back you knew of no interest in Biteco, anything changed? {Ed052's Note - nothing as far as im aware}

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30 Jun 2013 17:43:31
Hi all and eds.
Now everybody likes to see new players come to their club and I'm no exception, and with Liverpool doing so much business so early in the close season I find very positive. But I have to be honest and say I've not done any hone work on our new signings, so I'm trusting BR and all the other fans who say positive things about the new players. I know these players have not cost a kings ransom, so is this Liverpool and BR being savvy before a bidding war takes place or are these just players that have gone under the radar of other PL clubs or just Liverpool cutting their cloth accordingly.
I personally would be trying to find a genuine successor and leader to Stevie G. I think we all agree he is going to take some replacing.
Looking forward to our next signing.

Stu the Red.

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30 Jun 2013 17:12:29
Gutted about Mickey he really is a special player. Its his prerogative who he chooses to play for as he has no affiliation with us. and if he is choosing the biggest payday then good for him who wouldnt? this contract will set him up for life and an extra 15-20 thousand quid a week at monaco, anzhi or wherever makes a lot of difference over a 5 year contract. I can't believe the spurs and daniel levy paying more than us though?

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He's a grabbing get, we don't need his sought.

Ozone

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He's not signed for anyone yet fellas, relax for now eh

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Let's face facts people he's not signing for us. onwards we go. I know I eulogise about this guy but he really is s 'Roy Of The Rovers' type footballer

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30 Jun 2013 17:10:45
So glad to see no more Suarez out posts cause I can see him staying. I am watching the semi final and the club is losing one of the best players they have had for many years. Hoping BR really wants him to stay for many years to come.
SA red

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He's no use to us when he's suspended.

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30 Jun 2013 17:03:01
hey edoo2 hope your well.

dont know how you keep going.

well done.

malaga gooner {Ed002's Note - I am very well, thank you.}

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30 Jun 2013 16:48:55
Can't believe we're being linked to Kjaer yet again.
Talk about lazy days at the rags sports departments

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30 Jun 2013 16:47:11
Random question to the Eds or anyone else, which position do you think is the most pressurised/difficult?

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Goalkeeper as one mistake can cost your team the game

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Manager

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30 Jun 2013 16:42:50
HM is joining Dortmund. Huge dissapointment for most Liverpool fans. Excited to see who will be the target instead, any suggestions?

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Not huge for me, add him to the list of players we missed out on, no big deal

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Surely look at Honda once more

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My god. Everybody calm down.

We'll find out more in the next few days.

Everybody is saying something different with this guy at the moment.

We're fighting with a Champions League Finalist here. If we lose out, we lose out and move on to the next target.

Davey Sulls

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He is definitely not joining Dortmund. Liverpool still most likely and its fee currently delaying the deal not the player. He still wants LFC move

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He's clearly stated more than once that he would prefer the chance to play in the premier league.

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Dortmund won't pay 25m. And Spurs will struggle to raise that when their priority is two strikers. They want to replace Defoe & Adebayor and they have Holtby, Sigurdsson and Dempsey as versatile attacking midfielders. I suspect SD are trying to instigate a bidding war or give us the hurry up. Reina or Shelvey sales will give us the money/security to push it through. If Suarez stays its less of an issue if he doesn't sign because Coutinho & Alberto give us options behind front three of Suarez, Sturridge & Aspas. He's clearly a target though regardless of Suarez. HM is part of insurance policy should LS go. I'm convinced Aspas, HM and Benteke is th plan hould LS go and there is more than enough there to cover the hole left by the departure of our number 7. I suspect Spurs are concerned that our team will be a much bigger threat for top 4 with the players we have already and those we are linked with.

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I am not disappointed at all.

The real AG

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People say no big deal. We finished 7th so yeah it is a big deal. But don't worry Coutinho will get us 4th all by himself :-|

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30 Jun 2013 16:34:50
, you may have thought the away kits and training kits are horrible and they are. But that is because they are a smokescreen for he home kit, all the other kits are so bad even Everton fans were seen buying our home kit, the other kits really make the home kit stand out. The genius in charge of this sinister plot had this to say: We'd be lucky to sell 100 of those horrible other kits but if it means we sell a million home kits then so be it. Kop regulars such as ken aguero, aqua man and the tooth fairy have already gotten into the flavor of the month and were spotted queuing for the new shirts, but the one big surprise was this; jay spearing was spotted standing underneath the table trying on baby sized home shirts and pampers, his parents are unavailable for comment. So we must applaud this devious scheme LFC have cunningly thought out.

Lil Red

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30 Jun 2013 16:22:59
Hi eds, just wanted to ask if there was any chance of Liverpool getting any of the following:

Luis muriel
Erik lamela
Kyriakos papadopolous
Kurt zouma
Cristian tello
Luiz gustavo

Cheers,

Anonymous woolback {Ed002's Note - Try the search engine please.}

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30 Jun 2013 16:17:54
Hi eds, any truth in Marco Reus agreeing terms with lfc or is it false like I kind of expected {Ed002's Note - Wait until it is confirmed on Twitter.}

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Reus is probably worth about as much, if not more, than Suarez. No chance of him going anywhere other than for absolutely ridiculous money.

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Reus worth more than Suarez? Give over man. Fantastic player but worth no more than 30m max. Still, not a hope in hell of signing him.

Luc YNWA.

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30 Jun 2013 16:17:52
Just stumbled across this site for first time. HM is still well away from completion but LFC still currently most likely destination.

Llori pretty much wrapped up. Will definitely be Liverpool player next season.

Atsu, Tello are simply still at enquiry stage.

Papadopolous has pretty much been forgotten., asking price was simply a no go.

At this moment in time the only other deals almost 100% complete are the deals for the youngsters that have been in pipeline for a .while.

Don't expect any big announcements soon but BR and team are by no means nearly done for the window, wanting atleast three more players who are prett6 much first team ready.

Very promising signs for LFC going forward

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30 Jun 2013 16:11:24
Hi Eds, what do you reckon of the chances we may go back in to resign Torres with the Suarez money? Would probably get him at good price with cash left for other options. Proved himself with us b4 could do it again linking up with Stevie and also now with Coutinho?
Also gutted Jonjo maybe going, had big hopes for him, thought he could have been developed to eventually step into Stevies boots. Big mistake to let him go IMO. Should let Joe Allan instead jury's out on him for me.

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We could go for heskey and rush aswell

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30 Jun 2013 16:52:33
Jonjo has had a long time, and is not advancing anywhere near what was expected. Either we let him go now, or end up with another jay spearing on our hands

Alvy

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I actually think he improved massivley this season, remember his performances in the europa league? Arriving from deep and scoring goals. I'm not saying he's a world beater, far from it and he may have tempremant issues which could be viewed as passion. I'm just saying what's the harm in keeping him another year or loaning him until January

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Jonjo is very similar in style and physique to charlie adam, do you still want to keep him?

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Lol, Kumber - Heskey couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo when he was with us. I bet Rushy could still find the net more than him now!

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30 Jun 2013 16:01:16
"Here Here, I want the best player that LFC can get no matter what their motivations are. let's the kids and reserve players play only for the shirt."

I give up if this is the mentality of fans.

always a red

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I'm totally with you on this one. If they don't want to play for the club, the badge and the fans, then we won't miss them.
ND

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30 Jun 2013 15:28:27
So Liverpool have moved on from Kyriakos Papadopoulos and Henrikh Mkhitaryan.
Will Liverpool move in again for Christian Eriksen and Toby Alderweireld?
Or will Liverpool look at other targets this summer?

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Have this awful feeling that we'll miss out on HM, Eriksen etc and end up selling Suarez for less than he is worth and getting the awful Callejon in p/x.

Only hope i'm wrong.

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Have this feeling, don't know how I feel about it, that Liverpool will buy Micah Richards and Scott Sinclair.

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Micah Richards and Scott Sinclair, don't say that not even in jest.

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30 Jun 2013 15:26:41
Hey Ed's silly question but do you see Ilori's transfer as likely?

Thanks,

-Jack the lad- {Ed002's Note - You are absolutely right.}

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30 Jun 2013 15:09:32
hi Eds. Do we will buy another striker if Suarez leaves?. Such as Benteke etc. {Ed002's Note - I suspect Liverpool is well placed for forwards right now.}

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Going forward we will have another forward

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What if sturridge gets injured again? Borini is still unproven. Aspas i'm sure will be a great player for us but is this enough? Suarez will leave a big hole in the team I think if he goes we need to get another top class forward. Jdog

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United city (before January) both had 4 top quality strikers I believe you need 4 we have 4 at the moment but suarez on his way we will have 3 last year proved you need more of the bench ect,

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If Sturridge is injured, then we have Borini leading the line. If Borini is out, then probably Aspas does the job. If he's not available then Yesil perhaps. Who do you think we could get that would be willing to play backup to Sturridge, wouldn't cost a small fortune, and is better than Borini and/or Aspas exactly? And if we did find someone we may as well sell Borini.

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You're lumping forwards together and suggesting they are all CFs when they are not. Assuming Sterling & Suso will be loaned (vital for their devpt) you can see that if Suarez and his 30 goals are lost we need another striker. Simple.

RF: Aspas, Downing
CF: Sturridge, Borini
LF: Suarez, Alberto

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Actually, I thought Aspas played mostly through the middle, does he not? Sort of a deep CF, if you will, with a license to roam wide (i.e. kinda like Suarez)? So yeah, I do think in a pinch (not as first or second choice) he could play CF credibly. If you include Mkhitaryan (assuming we get him) and Coutinho as players who can also play wide on either side, then the attacking slots seem covered to me personally. I think the whole goal is in fact flexibility. People who are comfortable, left, right, central, in the box, out of the box, etc.

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30 Jun 2013 14:54:14
Hi guys. It seems we're having trouble securing our top transfer targets, we were in for papadop to expensive, alderweirder to expensive, now it's sakho and MH, it's great the club are trying to get these type of top players. It's just bothering me how we're loosing out on them due to not paying the asking price. An therefor we will see these players opt for moves to Tottenham or Dortmund because they will end up paying the asking price. It's just enouying because Liverpool do need to improve the starting line up not just the squad depth, and these players would do that! Right now only aspas is going to be a starter out if our current signings, who will most prob take downings position. But if we sell Suarez our squad will be way weaker than last year, I guess my point is why not just stump up the cash the clubs are asking for so we can improve our starting line up, instead of loosing out on a 2-3 m difference in valuation. {Ed002's Note - The issue is not a simple case of "paying the asking price" but would you be happy with Liverpool significantly over paying for players?}

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The consensus seems to be FSG won't put their hands in their pocket. For all we know it could be Brendan making the decision to stay within his own valuation as to what a player is worth. He certainly wouldn't want to be at the helm of a club which gets consistently shafted on transfers.

£22mill + for HM did raise an eyebrow. with me anyway. I hope the club don't pay it and stick to their principles. IMO the scouting team are starting to show their worth and there will be other players folks.

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Dont you remember what we paid for andy carrol and stewart dowing, they were not worth what we paid for them and could have got a world class player for what we paid for carrol,

mickey b

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It's important to remember that LFC is a business and needs to make profit. H & G left us in a bad, bad state and our new owners have done a great job so far in turning it around. They are still buying players but seem to be doing some very astute work on marketing and promoting the club to increase revenues. It's just a longer journey but one that should put us in a better financial position over the next few years

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Resale value! The transfer policy demon. Americans must make money on each cost unit lad.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - You need to take all of your weird BS to the conspiracy page Ozone. As an American I have no idea what you are talking about.}

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Resale value? Downing, Carroll, Borini possibly, Allen possibly, Henderson possibly? Yip, its all about the resale value!

The Irish Rover

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Ozone, the owners want the club to make money (which it hasn't thus far) so they in turn make a bit of coin. I have no idea why you think this is such a horrible thing.

I suspect if the owners were from Liverpool instead of America and everything else was exactly the same you'd feel quite differently about them as 99% of the time it seems you're more against their nationality than their actions (which, as an American, is really, really annoying).

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To be honest I can't be bothered arguing. In a nutshell I don't like the American free market business model. Any excuse for a pop at the American owners for me. Nothing personal against American people, it's just me, i'm of the opinion private money shouldn't be in certain industries, football being one of them. The money side of it gets right up my nose, although maybe through 'Hitachi' we've been the architects of our own downfall.

Ozone

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Fair enough, Ozone. I personally wouldn't be opposed to something more like the Bundesliga setup myself but the reality is once the genie is out of the bottle you're not putting it back in. In this case, corporate/personal ownership of football clubs is the norm and I don't see that changing. Given that, I think Liverpool could certainly have far, far worse owners than FSG.

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30 Jun 2013 14:50:01
Talk of Henrikh Mkhitarayan not signing for Liverpool is very wide off the mark.

Have it on very good authority that he will have a Liverbird on his chest next season.

Cheers.

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Wow. Just wow

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Don't think so buddy, he had a very successful meeting in london with baldini" I now have it that dortmund and spurs are in pole position, they are just trying to agree a fee with his club!

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You see, Some just don't get it no matter what?

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What do you know Jack?
Don't have to reveal your source but if it's on good authority, surely you can tell us more if legitimate.
When is this all going to happen for one?
What's holding things up for two?
Do fill us in.
Can't see the owners paying 25m for one player after the Carroll and Downing fiasco. Hope I'm very very wrong.

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He WON'T sign for lfc.

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You can't see us paying 25m but you could when it was 22m? If you've identified a top player you think is going to make. Big difference you are going to go an extra few million. Even if its on performance related basis.

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30 Jun 2013 14:43:28
Sat on sofa watching kids programe called something when I noticed a suarez shirt hung up in man city changing room between zabaleta and rodwell. couldn't believe my eyes because i'm pretty certain they don't have another suarez in their ranks. Look up programe called something special (todays episode) on cbeebies to see for yourself! Can anybody shed any light on this please? {Ed002's Note - Looks like you have found the Ed's secret source of information.}

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I believe City have a player called Denis Suarez on their books, who I gather much is expected

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Post of the day.

Red Rum

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30 Jun 2013 14:33:56
Why the heck do you people want another mercenary at the club!?

'Mickey' . whose agent has been bandying the around . the player who is seemingly only after the biggest pay check he can get.

Forget it. Don't want players like that at the club!

M

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I just want top quality players at the club. I'd rather have Ronaldo the ex United, money greedy, diving, cheating and whining to$$er than have mr nice guy Dirk Kuyt, simply because he's a better player and I just Liverpool back winning trophys. I think SOME fans get a chubby on over the image of the club. The only image I see though is Liverpool sat in 7th every year where we should be 1st simple as that

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Here Here, I want the best player that LFC can get no matter what their motivations are. let's the kids and reserve players play only for the shirt. The first team needs to be the best players possible. Titles won't be won in the EPL anymore with less talent "only playing for the shirt". World class players win titles, simple as that.

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US Army Red and previous poster - you really don't 'get' this club do you. Stick to rugby and rounders, your national sports.
ND

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30 Jun 2013 14:31:35
Can we have a little recognition for the Eds here guys.

We might not always like to hear the news that such and such a player isn't coming to Liverpool, but they give up so much time and effort for no reward, just to give the international community of LFC fans some genuine insights into how the transfer markets are moving.

If all we had to rely on was twitter and, we wouldn't have a clue what was really happening.

Thank you very much Eds, and a special thanks to Ed002 for all your efforts and patience.

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30 Jun 2013 14:30:42
Still don't know what's the club's plan after Suarez? Who's likely to replace him? Eds great work to keep all of us updated.

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30 Jun 2013 14:11:45
Sometimes, you just need to show faith in the clubs management. Last season was the first time since Benitez left the club, that we showed signs of progress. We scored a lot of goals, wellworked goals and played really good football. Rodgers is rebuilding the team, and it will take longer than we would like, but this way, when we get top4, we will have a solid foundation to build a side that can challenge for the title every season.

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30 Jun 2013 14:04:50
Are you guys sure we want Mickey? The writing is on the wall if we do sign him. If you couple Ed002's flaky assessment with the fact he already went AWOL on SD's training it is obvious one of two things will happen; he will flop at such a high price (i doubt it, not wholly familiar with him but too many people rate him for me to ignore) or his head will be turned the moment a barca player comments on his haircut and we will be in a suarez situation all over again. The only hope is if he were to fall in love with the club and history (Mr Agger) but that rarely happens and money talks.

Curious peoples thoughts on what I am going to say next. Does anyone else see our buys moving us to being a selling club? Not necessarily like Villa who sell most of their class but more like Arsenal or spuds who are willing to let a player go for high value (a la Modric and potentially bale) to fund further spending. ie I could see us selling Couts in a couple years for 40+ if he continues to flourish. It appears to me we will buy young, develop, and then let one go every year or so to fund more buys. With FFP and the fact that we don't have a sheik it would actually make sense to me to go this route with who we are buying. Every single one of our buys thus far could turn a huge profit (minus kolo) if they succeed. What are your thoughts?

Also just like to say I adore the new home kit. Its my absolute favorite. You need to actualy have one to see it and can't see it on the website but up close the lettering of Liverpool FC and the liverbird on the stripes is a masterstroke. I wear my Couts shirt just about every day. Replaces the most recent Adidas kit as my all time favorite

Diagne LFC

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30 Jun 2013 14:03:02
Sadly, Macca is stating he doesn't think Mkhitaryan will sign for us. If this transpires to be true it would seem such a shame. I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside LFC and understand a bit more. how much of a primary target was he, did the costs for him prove that bit too much, what's plan B now etc. A shame if we wanted him but didn't get him but I'm sure the staff at LFC did their best. Still a positive window so far, Bryan

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30 Jun 2013 13:50:02
Dear all,
I probably post once a year as I am working at Anfield and Melwood during the summer break. I was in this morning and the latest gossip is that Mkhitaryan will not be coming, the deal is getting both complicated and expensive. I for one think he is more interested in the payday rather than a particular club. The club will re-look at Erikson, as BR is keen for that type of "run from deep" player. The other 2 names mentioned were Tello and Callejon, Tello is first choice to replace Saurez if LFC can get straight cash. The member of staff I talk to believe Saurez will refuse to even return to Liverpool after the Confederations cup and try to engineer a move from outside of the UK. There maybe a whole "tapping up/breach of contract" saga about to unfold.
Just passing on what I hear.

Dazza

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I worked at Anfield for three years and I can confirm that staff working at the club don't get 'inside' transfer knowledge. Most of the players don't even always know what's going on with a lot of the transfers.

Kev79

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Seriously hope we don't go for Callejon, he is awful, that would just be a total waste of money on a par with the money spunked on Downing.

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30 Jun 2013 13:43:49
Eds Di you think we will confirm any signings tomorrow with toure? {Ed002's Note - ICAQAT}

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What does ''ICAQAT'' mean i'm thinking ' I can't Answer Questions then I have got nothing for the AT bit {Ed002's Note - Timing.}

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I can't answer questions about tello.


BigBadBen

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30 Jun 2013 13:41:57
Who do you think will leave LFC? Are there any LFC player of interest to any side other than Surarez? Some rumours around about Agger and Skerty as well as Spearing and JonJonJo but is there any real info on this? Has anyone actually made a real enquiry or offer? {Ed002's Note - Yes - as discussed there has been interest in these players.}

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30 Jun 2013 13:36:50
If Macca is right and Mk doesn't sign then who would you want the club to turn their attention to? For the reported £20m plus you could get one hell of a player or do you think BR will buy more than one to add more depth?

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I would buy Honda for 7m, I think he's got all the attributes were looking for and would be an amazing purchase. Mkhitaryan obviously isn't worth the money they are asking or we'd of agreed and finalised by now. Honda is an absolute steal at 6-8m though so why spend more?

Fester

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30 Jun 2013 13:36:24
Hope you're wrong Macca the 1st big nane player we go for this window and the club bottle it, too much faffing about over pennies

Looks like we'll have to go for another maybe he'll come good no mark type player again instead!

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It's nothing to do with cost.

It's the multiple owners of the player that has complicated things.

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The difference in what we were expecting to pay versus what would end up being needed seems to be closer to 10M than to pennies.

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30 Jun 2013 18:03:27
Hope I am wrong as well. let's wait and see.

Cheers

Macca

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30 Jun 2013 13:21:47
Does anyone else think the club need to walk away from the Mkhitaryan deal, yes he's a good player (not as good as he thinks he is) but he is clearly only interested in a pay rise. If the player was signing for any other club he'd be getting called a mercenary, rightly so. His fee is hugely inflated and to me seems an unnecessary risk, if he does sign for us and has a good season as soon as a big money club comes in offering him a pay rise he'll want to be off, and at the reported £25m price tag I can't see the club making any money on him. For that sort of money i'm sure there are better options out there, personally i'd like the club to at least consider James Mccarthy only if he's reasonably priced.

Liverpool had a chance to turn things around when Torres was sold, unfortunately the money was wasted I just hope when Suarez goes the same mistake isn't made again.

always a red

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I'd walk away we get Honda and 18m change for that money and that's what I'd do. i'd then look to Someone like lassana diarra or flamini as cover for Lucas both experienced but cheap options and pocket the rest of the money.

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30 Jun 2013 13:16:13
Celtic fan here, read on the celtic site and a few other social media sites that fener are offering 4 million plus dirk Kuyt for ambrose he's past his best but be good in cl for us so maybe he'll be here in time for our game in Dublin so you can enjoy seeing him play again. Can't wait for Dublin by the way! Good luck for the season ill be putting cash on a top 4 finish for Liverpool this season.

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He is a better striker then people give him credit for.
hope you get him.

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Kuyt will be a great asset to Celtic and no offence intended but its a weak league he will run riot for you. Absolute professional and he will run himself into the ground for your great club. Personally I would have kept Kuyt at Lpool for another couple of seasons instead of Downing.

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Yeah mate spl is gash I know still go to every game though. But you need to remember scotland only has a population of 5.2 million we are a tiny country celtic get 2 million in tv revenues epl team get like 45 lol so we punch well above our weight plus we're keeping scottish football alive all spl clubs got about 250k each for us getting in the last 16. If we were on epl money we'd b gunning for the title haha but yeah I hope we get Kuyt. Could teach our young squad a lot. Liverpool great club also mate best fans in England and the scouse banter is top notch.

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30 Jun 2013 13:10:31
Ed, is the Jorginho to LFC rumour true? And do we still have an interest in Pritchard?

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30 Jun 2013 12:09:18
Again, don't shoot the messenger but I believe Mkhitaryan will not sign.

Cheers

Macca

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There must be a back up planned in such a scenario. Any idea who might that be?

Thanks!

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Macca, if mkhitiryan dosent sign who else do u think we will bring in?

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I've got a funny feeling he'll end up at spurs.

Sam Adzii jft96 YNWA

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30 Jun 2013 14:05:24
Cheers Macca,
Any idea who we may target instead?

Jason

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Bad times then

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Haha caught out trying to sneak that in there eds. Good catch!:)

Jason

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Liverpool are going about their business in the correct manner.

The club have identified certain targets who they feel will improve the squad.
They have set a price they are willing to pay that is equivalent to the players' potential. The club have learnt from previous situations where they have 'overpaid' on certain individuals due to the selling club's valuations and will not make the same mistakes this time around.

When a club needs to strengthen a position they scout extensively identifying several players who meet their requirments and although Mkhitaryan may have been their prefered choice there are other alternatives in which the club are prepared to turn to. The club will not pay more than their valuations regarding any player they are willing to bring to Liverpool.

Red Rum

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30 Jun 2013 17:44:34
Macca, What have you made of the signings so far? does Aspas signing excite you? Nim

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Aspas does not even excite his GF {Ed030's Note - Got to admit this post made me chuckle. }

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30 Jun 2013 12:56:08
Eds. Ye keep replying RTP to some people's questions but I wonder why you print those questions at all as I believe people ask such questions just to see it printed. Anyone who uses this site reads the majority of posts anyway and they know full well that certain questions have been asked. MonaghanRed
ps. Are we interested in the Armenian player Mkhitaryan! {Ed002's Note - Because people like you will find something to moan and whine about regardless. Statements like "Anyone who uses this site reads the majority of posts anyway" are unfounded nonsense as you have no idea what people have read. If we just delete the posts then others will moan.}

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30 Jun 2013 12:37:07
Eds now that fenerbahce is banned from champions leage, who's gone take there place? Thanks {Ed002's Note - Bursaspor will and then two other Turkish sides will move in to the Eurpa places.}

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30 Jun 2013 11:50:16
Whats the situation with Coates and Skrtel are they both leaving?

If so Ilori and Alderweid in or maybe Sakho? {Ed002's Note - Please read the posts and use the search function.}

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30 Jun 2013 12:29:21
Ed any chance of Jackson Martinez if Louis Suarez leaves? {Ed030's Note - I don't see Martinez signing for Liverpool,But it's possible should Suarez leave.}

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30 Jun 2013 13:25:11
My sauces inform me that Liverpool intend to lodge a cheeky bid for Jackson Martinez. Departing from the norm (half his Actual value and a signed Heskey shirt), we will offer a used sock from Enrique [big fans for some reason] and half a steak and ale pie.

We remain hopeful

Jolly Red

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30 Jun 2013 12:25:13
Morning Eds,

Could LFC contemplate a bid for Thiago of Barca if we were to turn our attentions away from HM? Many thanks. {Ed030's Note - There is interest from elsewhere so I doubt he will be moving to Liverpool. }

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Thanks ed30. We've got a pretty strong Spanish contingency with Aspas, Enrique, Suso, Alberto, Pacheco and Huertas. Not to mention Borrell. Don't know whether that could be appealing to the player along with first team football {Ed002's Note - The player will not be moving to Liverpool.}

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I get the message, cheers Eds!

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30 Jun 2013 12:15:12
Expect a deal of Mkhitaryan to be completed within 24 hours. The club want to unveil him with the other signing tomorrow at 3pm

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Hi fellow red I hope you're right but any chance of telling us how you know this information?
If it happens then brilliant!
Red Dal

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30 Jun 2013 11:52:39
Ex scouser from Wavertree, moved to Verona, Italy 10 years ago. that lad Jorginho is class. can see him doing well in the academy, but he's not a first team player standard yet. The locals ain't too happy that he's been linked away as they have just been promoted to Serie A and he was one of their star players.

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I really like the sound of this signing. Could be a dynamic player for us. Loving our new policy on players. Academy really bulking up and more wanting to come because of there great facilities and our managers youth policy. Excellent.

BKP

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30 Jun 2013 11:20:11
hi all just wanted to say always believed fsg and Rodgers would deliver in time but it will take some time and fsg and Rodgers have taken a lot of stick but Rodgers has a plan and I think we r just starting to see this move on, he is buying youing talented players to build a team for years to come and fsg r backing the manager not getting carried away not expecting us to be champs next may but sturridge, coutinho, 2 great signings in jan, aspas, alberto, 2 promising players kolo someone to fill a void with top level experience mignolet young top keeper and hopefully HM a player of top quality to offer what stevie gee does and although it seems like luis off nothing done yet and with this sort of business being done early you never know what will happen and don't forget is it not the media that have hounded luis since he got here, that are reporting all of these stories of who he met and where and if he does go then that will be a lot of money to invest in new striker and as I say fsg r backing Rodgers and he spending wisely as he did at Swansea and we all know he found some real good players at good prices there so team these new players with lucas agger Enrique Henderson gerrard allen borini Johnson Kelly and hope to see teixera, and poss luis I hope and we have a much better team and squad to push for 4th next season then i'm sure we will keep building so for all those who were slating Rodgers and fsg get ready to eat some humble pie the Rodgers revolution is about to begin

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Sick of hearing all this building a team for years to come nonsense. How do we build a team when the best talents we have will mature and end up leaving to win things?. i'm mot normally negative and have followed LFC for 40 years. We need experience as well as just bringing kids through, look at Arsenal and see all their best players got fed up, we will end up a selling club at this rate. Buying potential doesn't mean they will all make it.

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30 Jun 2013 11:19:30
Just a suggestion why don't we have a daily transfer round up page updated by the Eds it would help stop endless questions.

Hessle Red {Ed002's Note - No it doesn't.}

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I agree. would be better then scrolling through the constant same thing. {Ed002's Note - Perhaps if people used the search function or read the posts it would not be an issue. Any attempts to do anything else have made no difference and then have very quickly attracted abuse.}

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I don't believe it!

Abuse on the page!

Victor

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30 Jun 2013 13:35:58
I agree with Ed here, it would just be a sticking plaster to try to manage people who can't be managed. On another note Ed, I've just read Macca's latest comment and like you and the other Ed's he's not often wrong so it looks like we may be a little disappointed. I'm sure LfC did their best though

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30 Jun 2013 11:07:24
On this day in 2010, "Jovanovic confirms LFC arrival" and "Hodgson agrees Liverpool deal". This Sunday, be thankful for what you have!

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Spot on mate!
Razor

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30 Jun 2013 11:04:36
Jus read that arsenal will be in for torres would hate to see suarez go and really hope Liverpool keep hold of him but if suarez were to go i'd be happy too see fernando bk in Liverpools red what u think eds?
Matt

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You've got to be kidding. After how he left the club and the back handed swipes at the club. I'd be disappointed to bring him back. Why bring someone back when you know he'd leave in a heartbeat if he didn't get what he wants. Also sick of watching him sulk all the time
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In response to your reply I don't think Torres will ever admit it but leaving LIVERPOOL was a huge mistake! (Yes yes I know he fluked a Champions League medal). but I would indeed have him back. I know many wouldn't agree and even I haven't forgiven him as to how he left BUT if Suarez does go. then why not get him in and also Alonso and let's challenge for that top 4.
With ammo supplied from Stevie and Xabi, Lucas holding and the options we have with Coutinho, Sturridge, Aspas and Alberto. you just never know what could happen.
YNWA!
(Yes I may be dreaming but just want us to be where we belong. No.1!)
Red Dal

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Y oh why would you want a torress 3 years past his best he went to a "bigger club" so to have him back would actually be saying he is right in that he put himself on the map at lpool then Chelsea payed huge money for him now it hasn't worked for him there then he will come back to us not a chance couldn't care less where he goes as long as it isn't to us

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Taking away the way in which he engineered his departure, why would you want the all new, ponderous, slow, nervous and inaccurate version of Torres anyway? Move on. Please, it's tiresome.

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3 years on and people still want Torres back. Good riddance to him, he built his reputation at this club and then decided he was too big for us. Let him and his new lover Mourinho rot at Chelsea scum
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Torres is average. We got a great deal by selling him and have a lot better striker now in Sturridge.

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So Suarez is castigated for dare wanting to leave yet some hypocritical fans are overlooking what Torres did and want him back. unbelievable. He sulked and even Carragher etc have admitted he downed tools so why would you want him back?. At the very least Luis as always given 100% for us on the pitch.

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30 Jun 2013 10:01:08
Luis Suarez to either Real Madrid or Man City, to be done in the next week or 2. Also the team that misses out on Suarez, will then sign Lewandowski.

Liverpool will not replace Suarez, but will add multiple Attacking Options. Aspas was 1, Robert Soldado, and Deulofeu, are the 2 others Liverpool I believe will Sign. BR wants and will get Depth.

Hairy Yonk

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He won't be going to Man City. The whole reason for him moving is because of the way the british media have treated him. Why would all that happen and then move 26 miles down the road to manchester. Doesn't and wouldn't make sense added by the way the media and the people would treat him after such a move.
If he goes it will be abroad but i'm actually starting to doubt wether he's actually going at all. We will know more this coming week.

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Thank god you said "depth", I almost read "Delph"!

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Its gone quite quiet. I think Suarez might have just realized Rodgers isn't a man to mess about. In reality it would be a backwards step in terms of PR if he went to Real he would never win player of the year or have the chance to be truely seen as one of the top 3 players in the world. All can be achieved with Liverpool in the next 2 seasons. Including winning the league and been competitive in the UCL. don't believe me. Good, public opinion is often backwards.

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BKP if you honestly think Lpool will win the league within 2 years then you are living in cloud cuckoo land. We are nowhere near it and we will be lucky to break back into the top 4 by then. To all the fans who say fans like me are just being negative, I have watched the best Lpool teams and in 2 years time i'll come back and remind you of all this we will win league etc fantasies. We are so far behind its laughable.

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You deluded if you think we are so far behind.
Its going to be hard to come back been anoyomous but please do.


BKP

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30 Jun 2013 09:48:04
Hey everyone. So we've signed 4 players already and looking to sign Makhytrain who looks like a decent player. Generally I am very excited about every new signing but this year I am little skeptical

See the four players we've signed so far are not really first team material atleast not yet so if you think about it we haven't really done anything yet to improve our first team

Secondly makhytarian may seem like a good player but is it wise to be spending 25 million pounds on someone who has had two good seasons in the Ukraine league? i'm sure we could find better (proven and less risky) players for the same amount.

Just my opinion

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30 Jun 2013 11:31:25
Not really over the moon with the other signings, but the armenian lad will be dynamite imo, will be well happy with that one if it comes off.

Waro {Ed002's Note - I am told that Aspas has the potential to be a very good signing for the club.}

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Have you watched these players play at any time?

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Oh my wordy! Give the guys a chance please before we start judging the players. I remember we signed a player from a lowly team, where he scored 17 goals in 39 matches. He made his Liverpool debut in December 1980 and didn't score his first Liverpool goal until September 1981. It was during a time that Reds' fans were recognised as the most knowledgeable in the world of football and backed their players. Maybe we need to build that philosophy again.

Btw, the player I referred to was Ian Rush, don't need to say anymore!

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Ridiculas comments.

Have you ever watched them play?
Looked at their stats?
Read scout reports?
Journlists reports?
How there team performed with and without them?

Furthermore. After looking at all of those, and our managers previous signings and his decisions, don't you think he deserves more respect then Roy Hodgson?

Honestly 99% of the posts have no substance to them because the poster refuses to educate themselves.

Please, who would you have rathered signed?

Eds you must get so tired of this website been anoynomous. You should really make some forums for the more serious fans and more serious discussion.

What do others think?

BKP

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I agree with Ed here, I'm really looking forward to seeing Aspas play, I've heard good things about him. Looking forward to seeing them all to be honest even Toure and he's only bottom of my excitement factor list purely on the fact that he's a defender. Can't wait for the new season, Bryan

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The signing of Simon Mignolet is a great move by Brendan Rodgers. Even more so if Pepe Reina remains at the club.
They are 2 really good keepers with a point to prove especially with the world cup coming up. Both players will want to be first choice and no doubt they will both work hard to impress. However, should Reina leave Mignolet is a very good choice to replace him.

Kolo Toure is a like for like replacement for Jamie Carragher in terms of experience and leadership and he will provide competition and cover at centre back. He is a good acquisition by the club and it is good to to see that Rodgers understands that as well as investing in youth and potential, experience and a winning mentality is also key in order to make progress.

Iago Aspas managed 12 goals and 5 assists last season for a team that narrowly avoided relegation. He is 25 years of age, and will be heading into the peak of his career. He will add competition for Sturridge, Borini and Suarez should Suarez remain at the club. Should Suarez leave the club there will still be healthy competition in attack. Something we lacked during the first half of last season. I expect Rodgers may strengthen this area further if Suarez does depart.

Luis Alberto scored 11 goals and assisted 18 others for Barcelona B last season. This shows that not only does the midfielder possess excellent vision but also has the quality to finish even if his tally does come from playing in the Spanish second division. I expect him to provide competition in midfield and it will be up to the player himself to impress Rodgers and cement his name in the team-sheet. It will be good to see how quickly the midfielder settles in and adapts to the premier league.

Overall, I am happy with the acquisitions so far. I expect more players to be brought in when the transfer window officially opens and I am pleased with the way the club are going about their business. Not only is business being done early but more tactically and cost effectively compared to previous seasons.
I expect several more additions depending on departures, possibly a left back as cover/competition for Enrique, a defensive midfielder as cover/competition for Lucas, a central defender should one of the current defenders depart and another forward should Suarez leave the club.
I am very optimistic regarding the future of Liverpool Fc under Brendan Rodgers.

Red Rum

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I've been told by people I know that live in Spain and follow spanish football that Aspas is a cross between Bellamy and Suarez and that the fans are going to love him an that he'll be a very good signing.

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BKP again have the scouts and reading reports never gone wrong?. We have made plenty of signings over the last 2 decades that were utter failures so before saying people are making ridiculous statements have a think before making ridiculous replies.

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It would seem the majority of mistakes are made by managers not allowing scouts to influence there dicisions or going purely on what a scout says. Fortunely with our comtitee the likelyhood of this happening a lot isn't going to happen.

Then again what you have said is the most r******* thing I've ever read. Where do you want to get your information? Fifa? Football Manager. Youtube.

If your unwilling to listen to professionals then there is no point in having a discussion with you because clearly you have absolutely nothing worth while to say.

BKP

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Not first team players? Mignolet will start in goal, Toure will replace Carra as a starter and Aspas will start on he right over Downing. Forget reputations - all three are likely to be an improvement in different ways. Reina not as good as he was 3 yrs ago, Carra was 34 and Toure has won major trophies and Aspas stats and character are significantly better than Stewie.

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30 Jun 2013 07:18:00
Question for edd002. do you worry about the state of the game we all love over the coming years with the increase in 'flakey players' as you like to describe them with player power so incredibly high these days? I think it just about sums up what a poor state the game is in these days when we are trying to replace a player who supposedly states that he no longer wants to train with his contracted club by another player who is refusing to train with his own club! Do the clubs not look at the charactors of the players anymore? If this potential new guy is willing to do what he is doing to shaktar now to force thru a move isn't it quite clear 2 years down the line we will be facing the same scenario with him once again forcing a move away from us? I just think its such a shame because little by little they seem to be taking the game away from us! Appreciate your views! De neeeen {Ed002's Note - As I have previously said, Mkhitaryan is a decent player but his club value him well beyond what most clubs would look to pay and he values himself as a Barcelona-level player who should be paid accordingly. There are a number of players like this and as we have seen with the likes of Suarez, Hazard, Eriksen etc., many are all too pleased to speak with the press. Last summer, Hazard had to give a commitment to stop doing it in order to secure a transfer to Chelsea.}

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30 Jun 2013 07:43:20
Hi eds. Just wondering what happened to that Marco Bueno the Mexican player we were supposed to sign a long time ago?Cheers Persianlfc {Ed052's Note - he didn't do well enough to get a contract}

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30 Jun 2013 04:30:54
Hello eds, please answer. Are we really interested in Momodou Sakho? Just saw some reports.

Thanks {Ed052's Note - RTP}

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30 Jun 2013 09:13:04
Morning Ed's and Reds. Report that Liverpool have lodged an £8m bid for Hellas Verona's Jorge Luiz Frello Filho (aka Jorginho). Another central midfielder? Seems unlikely.

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You can never have too many CMs
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30 Jun 2013 08:37:42
Hi eds

Hope you are all well? How do you rate our chances of signing papadopoulos? I know schalke want a wedge for him but do you know if we have dropped our interest all together?

Cheers {Ed002's Note - Search function.}

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30 Jun 2013 01:49:44
June 29, 2013 - 11:12 AMTLiverpool strikes deal for Henrikh Mkhitaryan transferLiverpool FC has closed an agreement on a transfer of Armenia and Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Henrikh Mkhitaryan.According to sport-express.ru, the English Premier League football club will make an official offer in the days to come, with a transfer sum agreed at around 30 million euro.Currently in Yerevan, the midfielder will soon be leaving for Liverpool to join his new team.Manchester City, Chelsea, Juventus, Atl�tico Madrid, Zenit Saint Petersburg and Anzhi Makhachkala were among the cubs vying for Mkhitaryan.
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Not sure this sounds legit to me.
They say a deal has been struck yet then go on to say we will be lodging an official bid in the days to come.
Hmmm. sounds suspicious to me.
Found this on an Armenian news website and thought I'd share.
Make of it what you will. I won't be holding my breath. but will be crossing my fingers, toes and eyes that it's true.

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I agree with you, it does sound a little unconvincing but genuine thanks for sharing

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30 Jun 2013 11:29:52
The report is suggesting that there have been talks between the two clubs that have come up with a figure that would be acceptable to Shaktar, and that Liverpool will then make a bid at the agreed upon figure within the next couple days. The section about a bid being made seems new and somewhat speculative, whilst the first but is what the eds have been saying for nearly a fortnight now.,,

Alvy

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You're welcome first replier.
You can see the statement yerselves on Armenian Times website.
Have since read that Mkhitaryan himself has warned people that Armenian media have not been telling the truth about what's going on so be warned.

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Reports in the papers saying Dortmund have got henMak! Make of that what you will- its all as clear as mud and seems nobody knows what's going on!

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30 Jun 2013 01:38:22
As it seems the Spuds are taking the Mickey. I wonder whether it is worth setting up a spud disinformation section. I have just been reading Operation Mincemeat, showing how the British floated a dead body with false information about the invasion of Sicily. I am not obviously suggesting that but perhaps if we had two chaps in bubble perms and false moustaches
discussing false pool targets within ear shot of Daniel Levy.

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Yes, make sure Heskey and Taibi get mentioned if so :)

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Always one to make a damn heskey post. welcome to 2013 my friend!

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Nice to see a smidgen of banter.

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My sincere apologies Don.
Cheap punchline. but it is Sunday morning so gimme a break man.
You one of those moaners here too?

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30 Jun 2013 01:16:43
Eds is there any interest or a official bid being made for veronas Jorginhio. I have tried the search function but nothing. Much appreciated.

Jagerrocket {Ed002's Note - Try searching and spelling his name correctly.}

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29 Jun 2013 23:55:33
With Suarez apparently breaching his contract could Liverpool take action against either Suarez or Real Madrid? Also is there any news of a replacement for Suarez? {Ed002's Note - You need to read the posts.}

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29 Jun 2013 23:33:35
Eds is their any chance of alonso coming back to lfc as part of a deal for Suarez

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29 Jun 2013 23:19:43
Sad to say that Mkhitaryan has agreed to join Borussia Dortmund and the deal will be announced tomorrow afternoon by the German club. Looks like the rumours that he was LFC bound failed to come into fruition.

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30 Jun 2013 10:25:38
Is that you Slur Alex, thought youd joined an old persons home in Cheshire? Hope your hip operation goes well

Tel 1949

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29 Jun 2013 23:08:56
Hi Ed's a few questions (if I may).

Are you aware of any discussions (non Suarez) of players that might leave and inturn potentially free funds up for new/replacements? I.e. Spearing and Shelvey?

What are you opinions on players like Coady and Flanagan? I think Coady has excellent distribution but seems to drift out of games - it might be the game he's being asked to play; also Flanagan has been around for 2-3 seasons but not progressed (I appreciate he's been injured lots).

Thanks for your time.

Hoola {Ed002's Note - The pages are full of discusions about players who might leave. Much has bee expected of Coady but he has not had much chance.}

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29 Jun 2013 23:04:18
Yo! Was reminiscing earlier about my teenage years, and thinking how much I used to lurrrve Jamie Redknapp. He was my fave player at that point.
Looks aside, what are YOUR memories of the floppy haired wonder? Personally, looks aside, I thought he was a cracking footballer.

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I agree he was a fab player, fantastic vision and distribution. I remember him being injured a lot though, incredibly frustrating at the time because he never quite fulfilled what he could have been. Strangely though my strongest memory is the shot he took playing for England that the Columbian (I think) goalkeeper did that famous scorpian kick with.

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29 Jun 2013 23:02:46
More news on the lfc player going to city. It's one of four, Enrique, Johnson, Suarez and SKRTEL, Skrtel is in capitals as I believe he is the player. If you think about it city want a replacement for toure and there was talk about them wanting pepe to partner kompany. Now as we all know pepe would be costly and real wouldn't let him go anyway! So a cheaper option, for a good player who they've had past interest in would be Skrtel, and they also have noticed he's not first choice for us anymore, so there quite happy to take a plunge and sign him!
ITK

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30 Jun 2013 10:24:43
Absolutely and completely utter TOSH

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Next time please add a not in front of that ITK.

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29 Jun 2013 22:47:53
Everytime time people bitch about BR or the running of our club, just glance over at the England team!what an embarrassment to watch, rotten all through the system. Be thankful for what we've had

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I'm with you. I wish the English FA would appoint a manager with someone with a similar approach to football as Bendan. Spain and Germany have showed the rest of the world how to produce a National team capable of winning things in terms of style and how to nuture a technical, skillfull group of players, and I think Brendan shares some of that philosophy (at club level). The English FA and current backroom staff seem to be stuck in the 80's, football has moved on.

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It's such a shame how our U20's and U21's performed isn't it. A lot like the senior team, good players but just don't deliver in tournaments. I really hope the FA look into this and take some external advice as everything they have tried has not had much impact so far.

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30 Jun 2013 12:00:01
The problem with England is that. grass roots level coaching has been ignored for the last 15 years or so. Whilst all these academies have been set up in different countries all over the world, apart from big clubs, they are few and far between in this country. Also, scouting of the few youth leagues there are is minimal. Compare this to say Brazil, where clubs have been known to send scouts to the local parks to look out for talents that have slipped through their system so far, and combine with substandard coaching of young players yet to be scouted, and you have some of the reasons. why we have an overall lack of well trained English talent coming through the ranks.
These issues are among those looked at by the Spanish and German FA's 10-15 years ago, which accounts for the vast amount of talent coming from those countries in recent years

Alvy

P.S Everything in this post minus the bit about the German and Spanish FA's is a mix of observation, deduction, and conjecture. None of it is actual definite fact, just trying to summarize everything I've personally seen and heard

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30 Jun 2013 12:07:44
Also, before I forget, there was a radio program on BBC 5 live about 18 months ago. talking about a special training regime from grass roots upwards created by a Belgian ex-player that was trialled and then taken on by a great many Spanish clubs a couple of years before that, which has also been accredited with a lot of the current success of the Spanish and Barcelona teams of today

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30 Jun 2013 12:09:48
Also, before I forget, there was a radio program on BBC 5 live about 18 months ago. talking about a special training regime from grass roots upwards created by a Belgian ex-player that was trialled and then taken on by a great many Spanish clubs a couple of years before that, which has also been accredited with a lot of the current success of the Spanish and Barcelona teams of today

Alvy

Sorry eds, forgot to sign the first 1

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29 Jun 2013 20:53:28
Dear Ed's, Just out of curiosity who is on the LFC Transfer Committee that we have heard mentioned a few times of late? Cheers, and Happy Canada Day Weekend to all the Canadian Red's supporters. big_dog -Toronto, ON-Canada {Ed002's Note - The manager, Chief Scout and Mr Ayre will will have different inputs.}

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Good luck to the canadian lfc reds

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30 Jun 2013 00:56:21
Mkhitaryan will be announced next week after a complicated negotiation. The upside to this whole thing is that there were a few big clubs in chase of him and he chose us. A player that wanted to play for Liverpool over anything else. Got to love that. I think the reds are finally getting back to doing good business and working in the right way. Got to give Brendan and the management staff kudos for this. I hope the players reward him on the pitch and we can get CL we need. Sturridge top league scorer and Top 4 finish is a decent 28/1 currently.

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30 Jun 2013 00:36:51
Hi Eds

Ed's won't we lose Kolo Toure playing for his country in January re African cup. We need sign at least two more CB's.

Regards
Zorro {Ed052's Note - there's no ACON next January}

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