Liverpool Banter Archive August 30 2017

30 Aug 2017 22:57:41
Well that’s it I’m taking tomorrow off work, my nails are gone from nibbling at them.
God help my fingers tomorrow from all this transfer stress

😱😱😱.

31 Aug 2017 00:35:11
You'll go blind!

{Ed002's Note - He's a Liverpool supporter - it is the norm.}

31 Aug 2017 01:19:49
If you put on the red glasses though, you'll see more clearly than ever before, just like van damme in blood sport.

31 Aug 2017 01:30:20
Atleast lfc supporters won't die of heart attack or something! we have exprienced it so many times!

30 Aug 2017 22:51:58
Congratulations to Joe Gomez the new England U21 captain.

31 Aug 2017 01:17:40
hopefully he'll grow into the great leader we need at the back for years to come.

31 Aug 2017 02:17:32
If we don't get VVD, we are going to need young Joe to be a leader starting right now, not years to come.

31 Aug 2017 06:16:36
Don't get injured playing for England Joe 👍.

30 Aug 2017 22:16:52
Not unhappy with Ox and the possibility of Lemar. But, is this the area of the pitch most fans think we need strengthening the most? If a centre back doesn't happen, regardless of who else comes in, can't help but view this window as a lost opportunity to attempt to solve our achilles heel.

30 Aug 2017 22:58:56
Get real. The back 4 does nor equal defence . We have hit e best squad in years.

30 Aug 2017 23:01:52
Fully agree burkeyboy cb should have been a priority for us no one coming in to challenge a very poor lovern and klavan everyone can see were we are week except mr klopp and his coaches really disappointed we haven't addressed that area and before anyone starts again with the vvd comments behave it wasn't ever happening we have made a massive era not bringing anyone in at centre back.

30 Aug 2017 23:06:06
Perhaps you have forgotten about Klavan. Worst case scenario we use Lucas as back up. He is still with the club right?

31 Aug 2017 00:02:02
You're kidding there, coop, surely?

31 Aug 2017 00:03:26
I'll put a shift in at CB if the club needs me - I'll play for free, too!

31 Aug 2017 00:14:50
But we have targeted a CB. Perhaps the reason we haven't targeted a different one is because the first choice one is happening? Everyone seems to think they know better than the guys who are actually dealing with the transfers when you actually know nothing at all. Just Relax it's all in hand and if by some last minute hitch we don't sign a CB we have kept 7 clean sheets in our last 8 premier league games. That's not bad going for a team that can't defend.

31 Aug 2017 01:06:42
Pieman, you serious? Last time I checked, the back four made up a sizeable portion of the defence. Don't go on about a specialty defensive mid, Klopp doesn't really play that system.
I am optimistic about the season ahead and look forward to some great footy. I can, however, see a series of games where teams sit back and soak up pressure with a view to hitting our defence on the break. Maybe with the strengthening of the front half of the pitch we'll break teams down more and this will be less of an issue, but it's pretty much what cost us a run at the title after Christmas.
Question, at this stage of the window who would you rather bring in, Lemar or VVD?

31 Aug 2017 01:02:02
Where have you been coop?

31 Aug 2017 01:34:52
We could bring in Messi but if we don't improve the CBs we are in trouble, set pieces will bear is again.

30 Aug 2017 21:50:07
Hi eds any defenders linked with liverpool. its ok getting ox or lemar but were is a quality central defender.

30 Aug 2017 21:43:17
Any truth in Roma's Emerson rumours Eds?

{Ed002's Note - I don't know - he would be another for the left back collection.}

31 Aug 2017 03:53:54
I'll think we'll add Paul Lake and Carlton Palmer to that collection, too.

30 Aug 2017 21:07:39
Eds obviously there's been the van dijk talk all transfer window but it appears Southampton are reluctant to sell regardless of what the papers say. Are there any other central defenders Klopp may turn to before tomorrow's deadline just to add depth to that area as a temporary measure if he can't secure van dijk until next summer maybe? He's adding the ox for squad depth but defence would surely need bolstering aswel? Thanks.

30 Aug 2017 21:54:40
Looks like that private jet was in fact waiting to pick up MACCA, the lads disappeared 😩.

30 Aug 2017 23:06:45
Hey, be nice. He's under no obligation of any kind to provide us the info that he does (just like all the Eds here) . And he clearly says every time that his info is not gospel and things change in football from moment to moment. So give the guy a break.

31 Aug 2017 04:35:41
Maccas contribution to this site is a damn site more than yours kmac.

30 Aug 2017 21:29:02
How I wish a quick last minute sharkopod! Don't shoot me down Ed02. Just my wish! Should save plenty of your time.

{Ed002's Note - I am travelling right now.}

30 Aug 2017 22:46:34
omg your on the way to france for lemar just admit it ed 2.

30 Aug 2017 22:33:54
Is VVD with you ed? Are you in a silver Merc? Or a non standard private jet?! Or on a tandem?

30 Aug 2017 21:47:56
Just doing some baking tonight . Got some humble pie in the oven ready to dish out when the ox starts ripping teams to shreds . 😀

I think he will be a decent player for us .

{Ed025's Note - save me a slice mate..

30 Aug 2017 22:09:40
Ripping teams to shreds? He's never looked like doing that this far in his career and I don't see him doing it from the bench. So I don't think I'll be eating any humble pie for some time.

30 Aug 2017 22:14:20
Umble pie 🤝.

30 Aug 2017 22:16:11
It doesn't seem that unlikely as France have a World Cup qualifier against the Netherlands tomorrow so doing it tomorrow is probably not going to be possible.

31 Aug 2017 02:49:18
Save the biggest slice for Mr Dennis.

30 Aug 2017 21:42:22
My mate reckons Lemar will have a medical tonight so it saves time tomorrow, even though nothing agreed. That ain't right is it ed?

{Ed025's Note - seems dodgy to me mate..

30 Aug 2017 22:10:07
If AS Monaco agree to it then there's no issue.

{Ed002's Note - he is not in Monaco.}

30 Aug 2017 22:50:47
I know Ed, but his club would have to agree to him having a medical with another club wouldn't they?

{Ed002's Note - of course but so would the FFF.}

30 Aug 2017 21:31:57
cheers to macca again, he was mentioning that Ox could well happen in all his reports. so he was right about keita and ox let's get VVD on thaat list too!

30 Aug 2017 22:10:22
Did macca ever mention anything about lemar?

31 Aug 2017 01:23:07
Mate I don't think even Klopp knew he was going for Lemar until a few days ago.

30 Aug 2017 21:30:21
Max Mayer from schalke wants out and spurs long term target.

30 Aug 2017 21:19:58
Getting pure evils off the missus as I'm checking the site every 30 mins whilst on holiday. definitely reckon she thinks I've got another bird on the go. If we sign Lemar and VVD I'll buy her an ice cream.

{Ed025's Note - it looks like mr whippy can take the night off at the moment jimble..

30 Aug 2017 21:50:47
Excellent news.

30 Aug 2017 22:13:38
Ed025 Ok you're a bitter blue, that's a given, but you do post the occasional excellent ripostes.

30 Aug 2017 21:10:27
Bit left field but if we don't sign a centre back tomorrow does anyone think there's a chance we could use Can there? He's deceptively quick, decent in the air and is obviously comfy on the ball, I think he could be brilliant there if he's disciplined enough for it.

30 Aug 2017 21:24:40
No why not just keep playing matip an lovern and maybe klaven and gomez if we have injuries its not football manager mate jesus.

30 Aug 2017 21:26:38
Leave in now Brendan. Your not the manager anymore!

30 Aug 2017 21:27:27
Disciplined? Who Emre Can 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄.

30 Aug 2017 21:38:14
Remember the year he played there, badly? Also, how will that pursuade him to stay?

30 Aug 2017 21:40:46
No he messes about on the ball .

30 Aug 2017 21:41:40
No no no no no.

30 Aug 2017 21:42:42
I was thinking the same thing earlier, he's played in defence for Germany at the highest level and he wants playing time so why not. I personally think it would work.

30 Aug 2017 21:48:46
I think he has the skills to play there, but no chance whatsoever that he would accept to play there. Remember he gets yellows routinely - how many of those would translate to reds if he was playing around the box?

30 Aug 2017 21:49:05
What a waste of talent.

30 Aug 2017 22:14:19
Why play a highly talented player, who is developing into one of the best centre midfielders in the premier league, in a position he doesn't want to play in and lose his composure, physical presence and ability on the ball in midfield.

31 Aug 2017 00:49:34
Well my thoughts were that against most teams, but particularly those that sit back, our centre halfs see an awful lot of the ball and have very little defending to do. Klopp clearly doesn't have an issue with them carrying the ball out of defence and Matip does it every so often. If we are playing a team posing little attacking threat that are set up only to defend I would rather Can be the man on the ball looking to pick out runners than Lovren. Also, with Can having played midfield he should intuitively know when a player wants to receive a short pass and more importantly when they do not. It was apparent in both legs against Hoffenheim and in the Arsenal game that Lovren's judgment when it comes to this is less than perfect. I'm not trying to belittle Lovren here but when you look at what is required in certain games I think Can playing there is an option. It's all about opinions so I appreciate the feedback, I'm very optimistic about the season regardless!

31 Aug 2017 01:00:21
Oh and for those with the dodgy memories, Can took over from Lovren after a 3-0 defeat to Man Utd and we went on an 11 match unbeaten streak- hardly playing poorly!

31 Aug 2017 00:42:19
Firmino is great at closing down the opponent. He should play right back.

30 Aug 2017 20:48:36
Sorry Ed's. Forgot to mention - what's the score with VVD aswell? Is he or isn't he coming?

{Ed002's Note - As it was. Liverpool formally withdrew interest when they were caught cheating. If they wish to withdraw their apology perhaps they will try and take advantage of the damage they have done.}

30 Aug 2017 21:08:40
We are cryin out for another cb so important! if we don't get vvd so dissapointing as we had it in bag but done in totally wrong manner - we should bite bullet an go for it!

30 Aug 2017 21:28:48
The thing is with Lemar and Ox we were aware 'something' was happening; with VVD there doesn't seem to be anything really going on. Doesn't seem good tbh. Hope I'm proved wrong.

30 Aug 2017 21:31:35
One hell of a bollock dropped by the club not getting VVD an what's even worse is there was no plan B it could well cost us.

30 Aug 2017 20:51:24
away from transfers for a minute.

just found out i will be in london the weekend of 21st october.

and luckily we are down playing spurs that weekend.

how hard would it be to get tickets in the away section, one for me and one for the son.

never been at an away match and never been to wembley.

so this opportunity is very exciting :)

30 Aug 2017 20:59:29
You won't get one through the club, no chance.
You will have to pay through the nose via a third party or tout.

30 Aug 2017 21:01:02
It'll be nigh on impossible to get tickets here. I would suggest contacting someone who sells them.

30 Aug 2017 21:15:35
i just taught it may be easier, 73k for the chelsea game, 67k at the burnley game.

surely getting a home ticket would be easy?

thanks for the replies.

30 Aug 2017 21:16:38
Have to buy them on the secondary market Devers, which will cost a massive premium. Make sure you get them in the away section though as that's where the atmosphere will be. Always had a great time going away, but always found the older grounds better for atmosphere. Remember being in the away end at Craven Cottage and the whole stand was shaking as the Lucas song was being sung by the whole liverpool contingent. Absolutely brilliant! On the flip side, the emirates is like a library. Having been to Wembley a few times, I would suggest running out of the stadium as soon as the final whistle goes, nightmare trying to get back into central London from the stadium after a game if your not on your toes.

30 Aug 2017 21:28:16
thanks bobby banana.

30 Aug 2017 21:53:19
Spurs are only giving away support a miserly amount of seats (understandable) and you have to have had some previous interaction with the club to buy a ticket in the home end to stop away fans getting their hands on tickets.

30 Aug 2017 20:37:38
Evening Ed's, cheers for all the updates this window.

Is there anything Macca can add to what he's already told us? Or any updates he can give regarding Lemar and/ or the Pipco situation?

30 Aug 2017 20:50:56
What about VVD Macca? Anything? Pretty please 😜.

30 Aug 2017 21:22:16
He said a CB tuesday didn't mention no names hopefully VVD signs macca also has said on numerous occasions in the past things do change so suppose we just have to pray because now its Wednesday.

30 Aug 2017 21:35:45
For God's sake he ain't coming I was told this 3 weeks ago an toldthis message board the same unfortunately I took abuse from some clowns on here who appear to hang on the word of certain individuals like leeches.
VVD IS NOT COMING.

30 Aug 2017 20:28:21
As regards the signing of AOC, isn't he an injuring prone player?

{Ed025's Note - very much so mate..

30 Aug 2017 20:54:57
Last year he made 45 appearances in all competitions which isn't bad.

30 Aug 2017 20:57:53
Not as much as lallana and Henderson thoigh.

30 Aug 2017 20:58:36
But doesn't everyone become injury prone when they join Arsenal?

30 Aug 2017 21:03:19
Thanks for the reply Ed025, I hope we know what we are doing as we have a lot of 'Made in China' players.

{Ed025's Note - you have a few HTM but other teams have them issues too, i just struggle to see where he fits in mate..

30 Aug 2017 21:47:54
Ed 25 he fits in as an attacker on either flank we have lots of games this year an mane an salah can't play them all so we now can rotate that trio, klopp will know wat how too get best out of him that's why he gets paid 8 million squid a year.

{Ed025's Note - my guess is he will be picking splinters out of his arse all season hailstones..

31 Aug 2017 01:27:33
According to Physioroom he has been injured 23 times since he signed for Arsenal in 2011. Mostly groin, knee and ankle injuries.

30 Aug 2017 20:18:03
Reported that Ox turned down £180k weekly from both Arsenal AND Chelsea to sign for Liverpool. for £125k. the team he supported as a boy.

Added to that Conte, Wenger and Klopp wanted the lad.

Sometimes other qualities factor into the creation of a team, not just FIFA stats.

I'll just leave that there.

30 Aug 2017 20:33:15
I don't play video games. I played football and can use my eyes to evaluate a player. Ox is poor and is not better than what we have and all you have to do is check the Sun game to see for yourself. Now, Klopp wants him as a squad filler and that is fine by me. He's our player now and despite what I think of his ability or lack thereof, I will support him as he is one of ours now.

30 Aug 2017 20:41:54
How many players have truly developed in the recent year of wenger? Maybe his coaching style didn't suit him - hopefully klopps style will!

30 Aug 2017 20:51:05
We can only hope, Firmane.

30 Aug 2017 20:52:14
I think the tightness of the arsenal shirt has a big part to play in their players performances, poor guys are barely able to breathe in those things. Look at OX's pics from last weekend on sky he is showing some serious nipples probably very self conscious about those too.

30 Aug 2017 21:10:20
I think the way a team plays can have a massive impact on the impact of a particular players abilities. i. e. We play fast direct, counter press footy with an emphasis on speed so salah is very well suited to our game whereas he likely wouldn't be as effective in other teams, like we saw with Chelsea. Look how effective cuadrado is for Juventus when he couldn't do a thing for Chelsea, the list goes on. The ox may not be world class, but he has scary pace and directness that will suit our game far more than Arsenals. He wanted to come to us rather than the champions so give the lad a chance.

30 Aug 2017 21:04:45
Very valid point, Waqas. The tight shirts constricting breathing and blood flow to the brain. Just staying upright on the pitch at Anfield, was about all the poor guys could do.

30 Aug 2017 22:19:29
I believe the tight shirts were to help stop a lot of the shirt pulling. It's actually a really good idea, and Liverpool should get them too!

30 Aug 2017 20:06:43
Someone on the transfer Bible that is Twitter has said lemar has signed for us £90m medical tomorrow at 1pm.

30 Aug 2017 20:18:08
How stupid do you have to be to believe this nonsense? He might sign. He might well have a medical at 1 tomorrow but if he does it will not be proof this guy of twitter knows anything. Just that he guessed right this time.

30 Aug 2017 20:24:22
Tbf, I do find deals are genuinely true on there, then come on here to check the accuracy 😂🙈
But twitter outlets do normally break the story first, they did with Ox.
Obviously you do get the few crazy "ITK" 😂.

30 Aug 2017 20:02:30
Sorry but one of the quotes of the summer transfer window was on these pages that said, saying a footballer in not for sale is like saying you are just going out for a couple of pints, a very good comparison but true, can't remember who said it but that was class. Deserve an award for that.

30 Aug 2017 20:00:39
Getting away from the transfers for a second. Did anyone see Hendo's head butt on Salah after he scored on Sunday? Straight red surely!

30 Aug 2017 20:05:58
Hahaaaa.

30 Aug 2017 19:49:37
With Robertson, Keita and Ox all but signed, it just dawned on me.

If we sign Van Dijk tomorrow, Alansbarnet got them spot on 😂 i dread to think how shocking his "i told you so will be"!

30 Aug 2017 19:57:41
You don't need to consider this possibility.

30 Aug 2017 19:44:06
Can eds shed any light on lemar? Seems to be all quiet now and various sights saying it's been shelved!

{Ed001's Note - patience, we aren't going to give blow by blow accounts. When there is something new to report then something we will say.}

30 Aug 2017 20:48:22
What about now ed? 😘😅.

30 Aug 2017 19:40:25
If you just look at the squad that played last year it's such an improvement already - ward for manniger - Moreno, Gomez and taa are like signings, taa is our right back in my eyes. Milner can play midfield now, grujic barely got minutes and I think ed said he needs to for his permit (? ) . Ox can play as one of the midfield three or wide, Salah replaces coutinho. If we then get lemar he can play wide too or as ten. Sturridge barely got any time last year, replaces origi for me. Solanke in too! I like the way we've brought in current players to replace the likes of clyne and Milner - I think them and klavan will leave in Jan or summer. Salah will be our signing of the season. And then Keita next year, hopefully can will agree a contract! Looking forward to a good season!

30 Aug 2017 19:50:07
couldn't agree more. So much stronger than last season
Looking like a Klopp squad and not just a Klopp team 👍🏻.

30 Aug 2017 19:35:31
We can whinge all we like about the ox but isn't great that good players and he is a good player are now turning their backs on big clubs and are wanting to join us? Not saying we are back with the same draw we had in the eighties but I think the tide is now turning again and we are being seen as a worthwhile club again.
Remember when the likes of Willian was choosing Chelski over us?

30 Aug 2017 19:51:04
Turning their backs on big clubs and wanting to join Liverpool. Love it.

{Ed025's Note - oooooh...so you dont class liverpool as a big club then AJH?, you have now become my favourite poster mate..well done..

30 Aug 2017 20:13:30
That should read "other big clubs" haha, I am a red I swear.

30 Aug 2017 20:20:17
Nothing happening over there on the United pages? Guess not lol.

30 Aug 2017 21:30:11
I know you're a big club, couldn't resist playing back the OP's words.

30 Aug 2017 19:32:39
Can we app please get behind Ox, and support the team and the player, not be until our mouths. If a Cb (vvd) happens excellent, if not onward and upward.

30 Aug 2017 19:30:45
Ox is best mates with Adam lallana. I think we can pretty much assume this deal was going to happen weeks ago! It just needed a few other bits of the jigsaw to get sorted.

Pipco will be gone prob Friday, Lemar will be announced tomorrow late on along with VVD.

Milly may go and Sakho I think will almost certainly go. Origi on Loan

👍🏼🍺🍾.

30 Aug 2017 19:57:50
He's also good mates with Henderson. There is a decent video of them playing keep up with a tennis ball from about 5 years ago.

30 Aug 2017 19:18:18
Crazy deal for AOC paying that amount for a player with 12months left on his contract.

Does this mean can is off then?

30 Aug 2017 19:58:27
Absolutely!

30 Aug 2017 20:40:13
No it is not, Harry. Can will stay this season and if he does not sign a new deal, he will go for free next season. No way on earth will Klopp let him leave this window. No way.

30 Aug 2017 19:17:38
Hi ED'S thank you all for all the hard work you all are doing. if the Lemar deals doesn't come off will we still let PIPCO go? Also when is Barcelona coming back with a fourth offer?

{Ed002's Note - You don't think he has already gone then.}

30 Aug 2017 19:29:52
I just feel the embarrassment fsg or the clubb will feel if they back down on coutinho would be bigger or as big as re igniting the vvd deal. which we were told they would not do lol.

I'm not sure keeping him is a good idea. But I suspect coutinho will go next summer with kieta being his replacement.

{Ed001's Note - there would be no embarrassment if he goes on Friday, as they only said he would be here when the transfer window shuts tomorrow. Just like there will be no issue with Saints if they are willing to sell, it is just that we will not bid unless they indicate a willingness to sell. Ball is in their court.}

30 Aug 2017 19:32:30
He has gone Bravesun. Trust eds hints.

30 Aug 2017 19:32:07
ED2 - such a tease :)

30 Aug 2017 19:32:16
You do know it's rude to answer a question with a question ed? I thought a man of your high moral standing would know that. I think he's already gone. Great player but he's burnt his bridges with the club and fans and I for one would not feel comfortable with him wearing the shirt again. As the club normally ask for my opinion on such matters I'll be recommending his imminent departure.

30 Aug 2017 19:28:01
I assume he is good as gone then ed?

30 Aug 2017 19:10:04
So we've signed the OX, great, same people no doubt moaned at the signing of solanke and Robertson, and wijinaldum, get behind your team, it's not your money don't care so much.

30 Aug 2017 19:30:12
I didnt.

30 Aug 2017 19:42:04
Don't think one person moaned about Solanke.

30 Aug 2017 19:05:08
Whoever tweeted that post to Peter Moore yesterday should be ashamed of themselves. Can't be a real fan in my eyes and not a good example of a decent human being 🙄

These tweets swearing at the owners and Henry's wife are disgraceful. Shame on those that send them.

Call me old fashioned but what has happened to plain old decency.

30 Aug 2017 19:19:33
I tend to stay away from twitter regarding lfc. Full of morons and kids that blame fsg for everything.

30 Aug 2017 19:20:45
Couldn't agree more mate.
Some people have very short memories and very small minds - it's pathetic!

30 Aug 2017 19:21:16
Doesn't that explained some of eds responses. Imagine the trash and trashy people they have to deal with on a daily basis.

{Ed001's Note - and that is why we have editors to weed out some of the stuff like that.}

30 Aug 2017 19:31:53
Ppl forget that before fsg stepped in we were days from bankruptcy.

30 Aug 2017 19:46:31
You must have the patients of Saints Eds lol.

Nice to see so many good responses on here, I feel sane again.

By the way Ed1, did you guys always have good connections to clubs, agents etc. or has it developed over the years as part of this site. I think this is the go-to place for good info for so many fans out there.

{Ed001's Note - I started it because of the connections I had. I used to get annoyed reading the nonsense in the papers and so wanted somewhere for people to debunk the crap and put out some truth. Since I have been doing it, I have built up a lot more connections.}

30 Aug 2017 19:00:40
I'm going positive.

Lemar to be revealed late tonight. post 10

VVD to be completed in the dying minutes of the window tomorrow night. 👊.

30 Aug 2017 19:09:43
Fingers crossed. That would be a very happy day :-)

30 Aug 2017 19:31:37
We would officially hit the mother load. Whatever that actually means.

30 Aug 2017 18:57:32
Ox is getting some stick but in fairness it's not him who set the price or the set the transfer up. For me now it's all about how this window ends. If we get VVD in and keep count or replace him with Lemar then let's be honest it's been a pretty good window. If we don't get a centre half and keep Coutinho or sign Lemar then for all the good that we may have improved going forward and scoring goals. Defensively our weakness's which will cost us are still there. Worst case would be Coutinho going and we sign no one else, if that happens then Ox is going to take pesters and the blame but if that happens then the blame should be laid much further up than his pay scale and chain of command. Only time will tell Gents.

30 Aug 2017 19:21:17
You do realise that we have kept 7 clean sheets in the last 8 league games? I think, the Watford game apart, our defending has improved massively anyway without signing anyone. That being said VVD would be great but we are far from stuffed without him.

30 Aug 2017 20:44:02
Why 8 games? Why don't you use the stat of how many goals we have conceded over 50 games. Because it falls in our favour. Spurs had a stat of something like over 2 seasons they had the best premier league record. Yet they had never been top or won anything. If leagues were won in 8 games over 2 different seasons then fair enough. But it's over 38 games.

30 Aug 2017 18:38:56
ro be fair to Klondike his transfers have pretty much been on the money so far so expecting aoc to be awesome this season he must have a plan for him!

30 Aug 2017 19:03:56
Klondike?

30 Aug 2017 20:13:09
Auto incorrect🙄.

30 Aug 2017 18:29:45
I really don't get the Ox purchase. Don't need him. Don't really want him. Waste of money in my opinion. simply not good enough.

Have we gone for him because the Lemar deal won't happen ed?

Cheers
Scott.

{Ed002's Note - The two are unreleated.}

30 Aug 2017 18:46:16
Fair enough ed.

Could you shed any light on why LFC have gone for him? It doesn't make sense to have two utility players to me? We have Milner who can cover full back, centre mid and on the wing if needs be. I just don't get it.

Does this spell the end for Milner?

Cheers
Scott.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained repeatedly I don't know what Klopp sees in him. I know why Chelsea wanted him and that made little sense.}

30 Aug 2017 18:55:38
He's a good player, mate. I hope we all give him a chance to show it. Mane and Gini have proved a lot on this site wrong. Good luck Ox, YNWA.

30 Aug 2017 19:06:00
I really didn't want Ox to sign for us, but he really did want to, more than Willian, Sanchez etc, whether that means anything we'll see, best of luck to him 🤞.

30 Aug 2017 19:17:09
Did Chelsea want him because he is homegrown Ed? Well partly because of that anyway? Or did they just want him as an alternative to Moses on the right?

Thanks in advance and well done for dealing with us over the last few days!

{Ed002's Note - HG is a big plus and he was wanted as WB cover for Moses.}

30 Aug 2017 18:26:02
Not sure what to think of the Ox coming to Anfield. I do like him but for that money I'm not so sure. I wonder did they offer ARSEnal £100m for Ox and Sanchez. I could have lived with that!

30 Aug 2017 18:48:24
Don't rate him at all. Think it said on SSN that he's only scored 9 goals I the prem for Arsenal, not good enough for us if we arewanting to push on.

If he really wanted to come to us, I mean really - couldn't we have got him on a free next year! 35m for him in his last year. he's not Messi!

30 Aug 2017 18:25:08
Are we considering A. Sanchez as alternative to lemar.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

31 Aug 2017 15:39:17
Which Sanchez, Bhav? Or is it any Sanchez?

30 Aug 2017 18:22:30
I know this is not Liverpool related, so not surprised if this isn't posted but.
How must Arsenal fans be feeling? Maybe there are some players that they are quite glad are leaving but with the OX seemingly arriving and the potential of Sanchez leaving and no apparent arrivals, the club seem to be in complete disarray.

30 Aug 2017 18:31:58
The first team in Premier League history that has had the manager lose the dressing room and decided to get rid of the dressing room instead of the manager.

30 Aug 2017 18:17:38
Arsenal must be gearing up for some big last minute transfers, there's no way they are letting all these players go for decent money without something incoming. £40m for ox is no joke, this is the type of transfer I didn't think I'd see happen since klopp took over or more accurately this window. I'll support him of course but it's not the greatest outcome. I've seen enough of ox to suggest he's a quitter and I saw it several times last season (my brother being an arsenal fan) and literally just the other day they specifically analysed him and how he didn't play well. I know this seems like moaning but it's more of a vent as coutinho looks like he'll be leaving and ox being the only player brought in from now until the end of the window. We have been crying out for defensive reinforcements of high quality and none have been brought in. If vvd was our only target then there's still huge problems with recruitment and scouting.

I hope things change between now and tomorrow in terms of both incoming and outgoings. Lemar will obviously not be happening but I hope vvd is still a real possibility, especially if coutinho was to go.

Let's see how things unfold.

30 Aug 2017 18:21:24
Not a rumour, just a thanks to the eds for looking after us all and for putting up with some. and just to add, even though the ox wasn't my first choice, he's still a quality addition to a squad that was looking a bit thin when tested with injuries, and we all know what the boss can do when it comes to nurturing talent, the way I see it having another player in the squad who desperately wants to play for us and knocked back the champions and 180,000 a week at his current club to play for us can never ever be a bad thing!, cheers reds!
YNWA 🤘🏻😊🤘🏻.

30 Aug 2017 18:15:04
This is nothing against the Ox as I think he could be good cover for Mane and Salah and who knows even the 3 midfielders also. But I can't help but think we've had our pants pulled down a little here over this deal. 35-40 mill on a player who will be cover (unless anyone can tell me who they think he will replace) who has 12 months left on his contract. Surely we could have waited a year like we're doing with Kieta and picked him up for something like a 5 mill signing on fee next season We could have used the 40 mill to address our real issues in the central of defence or in goal or picked up a few squad players from over leagues. Surely Klopp or the scouting team out there have identified players. Like I said not a rant at Ox but 2nd or 3rd highest transfer fee paid from us for a backup players.

30 Aug 2017 18:24:54
Transfer fee goal posts have moved since last season. Average players are going for £20m these days, have a little faith that our manager knows better than you or I. The season has started well, imagine if we pull a world class transfer off before tomorrow night, things will be looking almost too good!

30 Aug 2017 18:25:18
Show me a deal where no one has had their pants pulled down this summer? It is just the way the market is now - absolutely no value whatsoever.

30 Aug 2017 18:31:52
We've been robbed on ox in any other transfer window but in this current climate it's not the worst. Crazy money for him but what can you do? Hopefully he turns out to be a great squad player.

30 Aug 2017 18:36:46
It's not just the fee though it's the circumstances. No other deals probably had the player in 12 months of their contract remaining and or were coming in to be a squad player at that price. Kieta Balde was done 48 hours ago for a decent price. We must be one of the only clubs out there who's back up player cost more than the players starting ahead of him. He's here now though so I hope the lad does well. Just feel though that we could have dealt our cards a little better.

30 Aug 2017 18:44:30
Who said he's a backup? He'll be a member of the squad like Lallana, Can, Henderson etc.

30 Aug 2017 18:59:26
Personally I see him as backup Olrish. Who's first team place do you see him taking? For Klopp to pay this price he could very well be a starter.

30 Aug 2017 19:28:05
Why the obsession with squad roles?
This isn't Football Manager.
He'll play as and when needed.
Don't obsess over squad roles.

30 Aug 2017 20:46:47
All up for a debate Olrish but the "this isn't football manager' is a weak easy argument that anyone can use for any debate. Plus I never mentioned the word squad you did.

30 Aug 2017 18:12:15
Lemar is not coming to LFC. AOC is the alternative, and so that's it. VVD also not coming.

So in the end we have gone for a bit of squad depth.

If Couts goes, we are a weaker squad in my opinion.

{Ed001's Note - not true. AOC was wanted all along, as Ed002 has been saying for months now. Lemar is due to Couts leaving and is a replacement for him.}

30 Aug 2017 18:31:00
If Lemar doesn't come in though Ed and we sell Coutinho we have weakened ourselves massively.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have been playing well and have added players - Coutinho has not been part of it.}

30 Aug 2017 18:10:49
Just wanted to add a bit about Couts from my perspective (and probably a lot of other fans out there) .

He's been great for us and it always makes sad when such a good player leaves under a cloud. Ideally, if he's wish is to go, it would have been nice if he had still supported his team mates, club and fans by training and playing before moving as that way everyone can at least part on good terms and he would be applauded on returns to Anfield.

Sadly, bridges have been burned and no goodbyes with fans will now happen (if sold) .

I've no idea what has gone on behind the scenes from all parties but I think it's a shame.

Just a comment, not being naive, and I'm sure Saints fans and others feel the same way.

Looking forward to the rest of the season though although this transfer window is killing my phone battery with refresh after refresh to see if we've signed players lol.

Lastly, sincere thanks to the Eds. Everyone says it but without you guys life would be a lot less interesting. Your hard would and knowledge is appreciated.

Bryan.

{Ed001's Note - thanks EAR or Bryan, whichever you prefer.}

30 Aug 2017 18:23:42
Great post!

30 Aug 2017 18:06:34
Quiet on the vvd front 😰😰.

30 Aug 2017 18:31:57
😂 let it go mate.

30 Aug 2017 18:01:33
Eds. Just wondering why you didn't post or reply to my earlier post?

{Ed002's Note - I did ages ago.}

30 Aug 2017 18:00:13
Just a quick one to say i have registered to say a thanks to Eds 1,2 and 25 and Macca.
Great site and great info. Amazing levels of patience as well ;-)

{Ed001's Note - cheers Rog.}

30 Aug 2017 17:58:51
Can't lie not overly excited about the ox, however if he is wearing the liverpool shirt he gets my full support.

Please prove wrong 🐂.

30 Aug 2017 18:07:13
Agree mate. Just think how many people heard of the Dortmund players Klopp got and developed. They are household names now!
Trust in Klopp.

Red deano YNWA.

30 Aug 2017 18:10:22
Very underwhelming that signing and only for a couple of million less than Mane. He wouldn't lace Mane's boot's. Maybe Klopp has plan's to turn him into a centre back!

30 Aug 2017 18:14:47
I hope the hasn't been promised to be an automatic starter if fit. He's not good enough to get into our starting eleven.

30 Aug 2017 18:21:18
Mane wasn't even rated by most people when he came - I heard so many laugh at his fee and look what has happened there. AOC has allegedly turned down Chelsea to come to us and is leaving Arsenal, both are pretty big rivals of ours. This is a good sign hopefully, especially if he can hit the ground running. I believe he will.

30 Aug 2017 18:22:05
Get a grip and get behind him!

30 Aug 2017 18:16:11
If we would have bought mane this summer we would have had to pay 80+mil. Neymars transfer made the prices that were allready ridiculously high even worse. Dembele going for 140mil, Couts for 160mil.

30 Aug 2017 18:16:59
This is a Klopp signing and he will own this all the way. Not a fan of Ox at all but will get my full support.

30 Aug 2017 18:26:25
Oxlade isn't some player from the polish league though is he.

He's had 6 years in the prem with 130 odd games. Coutinho has had the same time and is off to Barcelona for 150 mil.

Hate this age thing. Players like walcott, welbeck, Barkley and ox are just poor player. Who fill a squad out. Ox will be the same at 32.

30 Aug 2017 18:54:04
Red Deano - the problem isn't that he's unheard of. The problem is we've seen plenty of him and haven't been impressed.

30 Aug 2017 20:56:39
Orirish, Cou scored 14 goals last season. Ox has scored 9 goals in 6 years (170 games) . Let that sink in. He has no ability whatsoever and even tho Klopp wants him, that does not negate the fact that he is poor player, period. I will support him as he is now an LFC player BUT people need to stop slagging people off just cos they disagree with a player's ability or in this case, lack thereof.

30 Aug 2017 17:52:58
The Ox is now a Liverpool player. let's cut out the negative stuff and support him.

30 Aug 2017 18:17:58
Underwhelmed by this signing but agree with Fitzy, we should now support him as he is part of the LFC country now.

30 Aug 2017 18:27:59
You sure. He could very well reject us when we say your not playing cm.

30 Aug 2017 17:51:16
James Pearse also confirmed the Ox deal is done. Medical tonight.

30 Aug 2017 17:49:15
We have agreed to sign AOC just been anounced on sky sports.

30 Aug 2017 17:46:18
If we get Ox, Lemar, Salah and Solanke I will lose all faith. the whole world can see that defending is our issue yet all of those are attacking players! It’s not rocket science!
If my car needed a new battery I wouldn’t go and buy 4 new tyres and hope it works.

30 Aug 2017 18:04:25
so if we can't get whom we want for cb who should we go after that's available.

30 Aug 2017 18:01:58
Transfer is not done yet. Still have tomorrow left. Have a feeling we might sign one player and hopefully it's van dijkm.

30 Aug 2017 18:06:25
Conveniently leaving out Robertson.

30 Aug 2017 18:19:55
Exactly, Tomosilee. Our team is much better than last season already and that is the most important thing.

30 Aug 2017 18:13:00
6 clean sheets in last 7 lad.

30 Aug 2017 17:41:29
Ox seems done his agent has tweeted it as has melissa reddy.

Macca said VVD, Robinson, Keita and maybe the Ox.

Three out for four so far. Hopefully the club can get a CB over the line, pref VVD.

Any updates Macca?

30 Aug 2017 17:38:33
If the ox does sign then let's cheer him on not bash him.
We all seen him play but not under klopp. Come on guys YNWA.

30 Aug 2017 17:56:18
Can't understand why some people are so negative.

30 Aug 2017 18:26:36
Harde, we are not negative. We think he's not good enough and the facts bear that out (9 goals in 170 goals) so stop calling others negative just cos they disagree with you. For me, he's pants and we got mugged on the fee BUT he's our player and I will support him.

30 Aug 2017 17:36:44
Came across this site for the first time when we were trying to bring the Konoplyanka deal over the line, been hooked ever since. Macca has called Keita and Ox deals all summer. Every LFC fan needs to know about this site and not bother with anything else., not sure the eds would cope though. Top, top site! Respect to Macca and the Eds.

30 Aug 2017 17:34:48
Just a thought. I think Eds know more than they let on but have to be tight lipped to keep their contacts happy. Notice how they have started to sacarastically comment that players have already been bought and sold in the last 24hrs in reply to our posts. I can only deduce that they are not sarcastic comments but in fact true statements based on the inside knowledge they have but can't shsre i. e. PC has been sold and VD, Lemar and the Ox are pretty much done deals. All will be announced once incoming deals are finalised.

30 Aug 2017 17:27:00
VVD not happening now! Trust me.

30 Aug 2017 17:34:28
Care to elaborate?

30 Aug 2017 17:38:27
He isn't coming simple stop hanging on people every word I told you this week's ago pal.

30 Aug 2017 17:45:24
Been off for weeks Antonrat, don't know why we can't just move on. There are alternatives but I'm guessing Klopp is hoping for the best at the last minute or knows something we don't.
Wish he had just moved on personally.
Might be a lot of very disappointed LFC fans tomorrow night on this one.

30 Aug 2017 17:09:08
Hi ed1,

Would love to get your thoughts on what Van Dijk has to offer which would be an improvement on Lovren? Never really watched Saints last year, I know upgrading on Lovren isn't difficult but what strengths does he have in oarticular.

{Ed001's Note - pace, strength, height, much better on the ball than Lovren.}

30 Aug 2017 17:29:26
Spot on ed.

30 Aug 2017 17:50:01
Ed1 I think before you said sometimes he switches off and a bit of fire in his belly he lacks was your concerns if I remember right pal?

{Ed001's Note - yes he is very laidback and tends to lose concentration.}

30 Aug 2017 18:30:03
One of his several issues, Ed.

30 Aug 2017 17:16:38
Ed1 if we don't get VVD that leaves us with Matip and lovren who have both suffered from injuries quite a bit.
After Klavan and Gomez who would be next in line to play centre back for us?
We have decent cover in midfield and up top with youngsters in Grujic, Solanke, Woodburn etc but not at CB?
Busy 24 hours or so ahead for you guys. Wishing you luck!

{Ed001's Note - we would be dipping into the ressies after that.}

30 Aug 2017 17:25:20
Emre Can but he can't really :)

30 Aug 2017 17:29:30
Thanks Ed. Anyone decent in there that we could rely on id needed? Hopefully won't be needed but 3 of the 4 seem to get injured quite a lot.

{Ed001's Note - I am still of the opinion that we won't need to worry about that, but Lloyd Jones is still there and Juanma has been mainly playing centre back.}

30 Aug 2017 17:38:26
I would image Conor Masterson is next in line. Unless he's loaned out or Klopp prefers to put someone out of position at center back.

30 Aug 2017 16:33:37
Alternatives to Van Dijk?
Get on your FIFA games quick and let us know via answers on a postcard please.

30 Aug 2017 17:10:40
Boscagli, de ligt, diop, doucre, vargas, rugani all hav better overall potentially than vvd😂😂😂.

30 Aug 2017 17:13:49
The Second Coming, aka Tiago Ilori.

30 Aug 2017 16:26:20
If we sign both Lemar and Chamberlain plus keep Coutinho I can see Milner leaving in January.

I just do t see how he could get a game in midfield ahead of Henderson, Can, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Coutinho, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Lemar, Salah and Mane. Plus there's Grujic, Woodburn and Kent at least.

I see the same issue in defence at full back, as we have Moreno, Robertson, Clyne, Flannaghan, Alexander-Arnold an Gomez who can cover.

I really can't see where he would fit in.

30 Aug 2017 17:17:49
GK-Mignolet, Karius, Ward
RB-Clyne, A. Arnold, Gomez. (Flanagan)
LB-Moreno, Robertson.
CD-*VAN DIJK, Matip, Lovren, Klavan. (Sakho)
DM-Henderson, Can.
CM-Wijnaldum, Lallana, Milner, *LEMAR, Grujic.
RW-Salah, Sturridge, CHAMBERLAIN, Kent. (Markovic)
LW-Mane, Coutinho, Woodburn.
ST-Firmino, Solanke, Ings. (Origi)

You can see with them Milner has a place and we can rotate without losing quality in this long season. But it seems Coutinho is going to leave if we get Lemar and Ox. I hope for Coutinho to saty and we sign only Lemar.

30 Aug 2017 17:35:29
Can milner play in goal ⛹️⛹️⛹️.

30 Aug 2017 16:45:09
Lets be honest, it looks like AOC is coming if Arsenal agree to sell to us.
Any other positions to be filled/ specific players you'd like?
Central Defender and Defensive Midfielder for me as priorities and in that order too.
An AMC if lil Philly goes.
C'mon Jurgen, you can dooo it!

30 Aug 2017 16:38:46
Good afternoon Eds and fellow fans.

I would some information as to the general way a club approaches another club for a particular player?

It might be a stupid question, but would like to know so it explains the "Tapping up" approach and how teams contact players without having this accusation?

Is it left to the agents, the personnel at the clubs or do the players themselves approach managers?

Apologies if this is a question already answered, but I have only been in this site for a couple of days.

Cheers in anticipation.

{Ed002's Note - I answered this yesterday.}

30 Aug 2017 14:50:11
Hi Eds, thanks for the great work and providing updates during this hectic time. Was hoping of there was any updates regarding any potential outgoing deals that are being worked on. Also as Macca stated the CB deal is done, but is Ox being pursues in lieu of Lemar or are the deals not related.

{Ed002's Note - If Macca has said the centre back deal is done then you should trust him.}

30 Aug 2017 16:57:24
Macca never stated it was done.

30 Aug 2017 16:21:40
Not sure my heart can take this anymore. lemar vvd ox come on reds. YNWA.

30 Aug 2017 16:15:03
Ok guys (and girls) how many times have you visited this site in the last 24 hours:

A. 1-10
B. 11-20
C. 21-50
D. 51-100
E. I'm getting a divorce.

30 Aug 2017 16:34:14
D only cos I'm not married.

30 Aug 2017 16:38:56
Ashamedly it's an E for me.

30 Aug 2017 16:39:38
D, bordering on E.

30 Aug 2017 16:41:09
Me above 200😂.

30 Aug 2017 16:46:51
F. If I'm not careful I will get sacked and I'm not brave enough to check it to often at home.

30 Aug 2017 16:48:14
D, comfortably.

30 Aug 2017 16:27:36
Definitely E mate.

I was more excited for Tuesday than having an extra day off for the bank holiday after what macca said.

30 Aug 2017 16:29:58
F- I'm getting sacked.

30 Aug 2017 16:31:18
Why is it same everywhere?

30 Aug 2017 16:31:29
Use the same list for how many times the same question has been asked.

30 Aug 2017 16:32:31
Im getting a Divorce.

30 Aug 2017 16:52:54
F - missed the divorce hearing as I was too busy checking the site.

30 Aug 2017 16:54:29
D but I do that every hour. The wait is killing me. I just get the feeling we won't get anyone.

30 Aug 2017 17:05:42
E+ I'm so dead.

30 Aug 2017 17:19:03
None of the above I’m leaving the mrs

This place is less head wrecking than her

👍🏻👍🏻.

30 Aug 2017 17:33:56
I'm getting divorced, and I'm not even married! 😂😂.

30 Aug 2017 17:30:11
E but if we sign vvd and lemar I don't care about getting divorced.

30 Aug 2017 16:08:54
Ed. straight question if ok. your opinion where will VVD be playing after tomorrow.

{Ed001's Note - my opinion? I have no idea, I know he is desperate to leave Saints and to sign for Liverpool but Saints are determined to hold onto him. I wouldn't want to give an opinion based on that info, as it could go either way. They might even do what they did with Fonte and refuse point blank to sell him to his chosen team and accept a much lower bid from other clubs instead.}

30 Aug 2017 16:32:08
Totally new question.

30 Aug 2017 16:07:59
Wondering if anyone could offer me next weeks lottery numbers? Seems to be a lot of people on here who can see into the future and react on the end of the window before its happened. Going to pop onto Apocalypse-rumours site to find some relative positivity.

30 Aug 2017 16:04:31
To ed001,

Where do you see ox playing?, if centre mid which one of them is going to be dropped for the ox?, we don't sign players for 35 mil to play on the bench or be an impact sub.

{Ed001's Note - there are lots of games to play and he will play where he is needed.}

30 Aug 2017 15:57:27
Everything me is stressing out and getting in a jump cause nothing's happened
Seriously?!

It's not finished yet, there's still a while to go, so chill the &@*" out please!

Even if nothing happens, (which I hope I'm wrong about) then we will deal with it!
The team is looking very good, and if we can sort 1 or 2 more, (I'm still confident) it's game on, if not, we'll be ok.

30 Aug 2017 16:15:30
What?

30 Aug 2017 15:52:13
I personally would be quite ok with Oxlade Chamberlain being signed, he's nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe. He's 24, HG, covers numerous positions, has pace to burn and unlike most other Arsenal players, he actually tries. For £30 to 40m, he's a steal in this window.
I know he's not Lemar for the FIFA fans on here and not foreign (which always seems to make a signing better in some eyes lol. ) but it's definitely better than Carlton Cole who Woy tried so desperately to sign a few short seasons ago remember.
Trust the manager.

30 Aug 2017 16:03:40
Sorry but no, he goes missing when the game gets tough like most arsenal players, he cannot play wing back, cannot play cm, cannot play behind the striker. Pace to burn? he's nowhere near as quick as Mane or Salah, he spends half the season out injured.

Not good enough!

30 Aug 2017 16:05:10
OrIish, many of us have watched him for ages and yes, he is actually as bad as people would have you believe. Also, if 40m is a steal for Ox, what would you call Mane, Wiji, Salah, Cou and lallana, all players who are mile ahead of him, then?

30 Aug 2017 16:15:54
". he actually tries. " can't have been watching at the weekend. Again not as quick as Mane or Salah, limited in his ability and his end product is generally very poor. Mid table player at best.

30 Aug 2017 16:19:18
Well luckily for us, you're not the manager BR. I'm pretty sure Klopp has more experience than you and he seems to like him. Did I mention anything about those previous signings and their prices? Salah is the only player you mentioned who was bought in this window and if I remember correctly, many on here had a problem buying him too.

30 Aug 2017 17:40:14
Mr. Dennis, neither is Sanchez as quick as those two players you have mentioned but I'm sure you'd take him. In fact you can add 99.9% of the football world to your claims.
He's younger though which may make him a less "transient employee" for the club, don't you like that expression anymore?
You seem to use it in many of your posts since it was first mentioned a few weeks ago lol. :)

30 Aug 2017 18:24:04
Lemar is a title winning, champions league semi finalist, full starting international.

He achieved 9 goals and 10 assists. Created 70 chances.

Ed1 calm the f down haha but in comparison coutinho got 13 goals and 7 assists with 65 chances created.

I'm not saying Lemar is in coutinho league but in terms of helping us feel the impact less of coutinho leaving, Lemar has to get done. It's nothing to do with a continental name or fifa player, that's just your way of patronising fans who know a little more than you.

Oxlade is not good enough for Liverpool football club and is merely a spot taking from the like a of grujic, Woodburn and kent.

30 Aug 2017 21:08:30
OrIrish, I never slagged Salah off in fact, I was praying that we get him as I knew he would be a hit with the way he performed in Italy as I watch the Serie A. Also, Klopp being interested in a visibly poor player does not mean that said player, has suddenly become good. That is senseless reasoning. Klopp may want what he wants BUT we are allowed to have an opinion on a player's ability.

30 Aug 2017 15:36:13
Guys guys stated in previous posts that vvd won't be coming but people is still on and on about him again we haven't even gone back in for him so let's mover on from this no centre back in this window the one place we should have strengthend and we fail to do it very poor.

30 Aug 2017 15:52:23
Settle down, you don't know anything.

30 Aug 2017 15:55:00
If we don't have an alternative lined up, most will be disappointed for sure but we can't just buy for the sake of it. He might be lined up for next season too, anything is possible in this day and age and not much should surprise us anymore.

30 Aug 2017 15:58:15
Kopend7 😂😂 You joker.

30 Aug 2017 16:04:55
Why are your posts always so negative.

30 Aug 2017 17:20:07
The daily dose of bright sunshine.

30 Aug 2017 15:16:44
Has there ever been a case where a player plays against us, then plays for us the following game. Which could happen if ox signs.

30 Aug 2017 15:26:28
Seems Sanchez will play for city against us!

30 Aug 2017 15:26:57
Ox will warm the bench.

30 Aug 2017 15:28:41
Dejan lovren.

30 Aug 2017 15:30:06
Torres played for us against Chelsea, then signed for Chelsea and played against us if I'm not mistaken.

30 Aug 2017 15:33:44
Are u sure OX played against us? Or was he wearing an invisibility cloak at Anfield?

30 Aug 2017 15:35:56
Ahh yes Torres, who still remembers the elbow Agger gave him smack on the nose that game as a reminder to bad the decision he made. Haha I remember that hit so clearly. I think the ref saw it too and just let it be as he knew Torres pulled one over Liverpool.

I swore we went on to win that one too?

30 Aug 2017 16:09:33
Ox never played against us. He was just there like a ghost and faked the whole thing. Not surprised tho as it is a regular occurrence with him.

30 Aug 2017 16:14:19
Remember that too vividly loved Dagger. Your right we went onto to win one nil, Raul Merreiles I think it was.

30 Aug 2017 17:52:48
Yeah and agger clipped him round the head with an elbow. Was brilliant. And we didn't even play his replacemen5 in Suarez and still didn't miss him.

30 Aug 2017 15:13:45
All this lemar ox talk and no word on a centre back a position we desperately need to improve. If van dijk isn't coming where are the alternatives? It's very quiet.

30 Aug 2017 15:30:19
Van Dijk is not moving Al, he will stay at Southampton on the 1st September.
As Harry Hill would put it:

A Lemur vs an Ox, but which one wins?
There's only one way to find out.

FIGHT!

30 Aug 2017 15:50:55
We need a centre back Ron or we're fighting for fourth again. there's no way we're challenging without a quality centre back.

30 Aug 2017 15:00:34
Liverpool are not pursuing Thomas Lemar anymore the price is gone to high. So it looks like it's Salah, Solanke and Robertson for this window and of course Keita for next season. No centre back brought in is a big mistake in my opinion.

30 Aug 2017 15:14:51
According to who?!

30 Aug 2017 15:21:44
Says who? they've sent micheal edwards and a medical team to france, why would they do that an when they land call em up an say come back lads, were not bothering. They will at least talk to monaco first. These things take time. Have some bloody patience 😡.

30 Aug 2017 15:23:06
Roll on friday.

30 Aug 2017 15:25:33
Twitter after a reporter from the mirror claimed the deal is off. It looks like we may get Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and, hopefully, VVD. We shouldn't judge anything until the window shuts.

30 Aug 2017 15:34:28
Oh well, twitter AND the mirror. It must be true 😂😂😂😂😂.

30 Aug 2017 15:41:11
When says Edward's and a medical team are in France to conclude the deal?

30 Aug 2017 15:54:58
James pearce liverpool echo website.

30 Aug 2017 16:21:25
French media is reporting that Barcelona are now negotiating for Lemar and he is keen on them as well. They did not even mention Liverpool as his possible destination at all.

30 Aug 2017 14:54:28
For €150 mill, I would personally drive Coutinho to Barcelona and buy VVD and Lemar without splashing a penny from my pocket at least a month ago!

30 Aug 2017 15:01:06
😄
You'd buy 2 players who are not for sale. You should be on the transfer committee, you'd fit in well 🤝.

30 Aug 2017 15:05:22
It's not about the money is it. The clubs have to want to sell their players.

30 Aug 2017 15:13:44
Better not to talk about finances Harry. Pretty sure what we pay for VVD and Lemar will be way more than what we end up getting for Coutinho factoring in all the taxes and expenses involved.

30 Aug 2017 15:14:35
Was refreshing seeing Sturridge score a great goal in the last game and not do that stupid dance. I know he doesn't always do it but it's embarrassing. He's a very gifted footballer and hope his injuries are behind him though I suspect he his pace is not what it was.

30 Aug 2017 15:14:36
Harry, you will need both clubs to be willing to sell to you first, which is not the case right now.

30 Aug 2017 15:15:05
hey, how do you change your name on here?

I wanna change mine to "we can attack"

30 Aug 2017 15:38:56
The window isn't even close yet.

30 Aug 2017 14:49:05
Hello Ed01/ 02
Why did we not step up the Interest in lemar earlier mate? He was available from a month ago. Now we have a player who doesn't want to play for us and rejected one of the all time big money and are pretty much resigned to loose his replacement due lack of time which leads us to panick buy another player clearly not wanted at his current club for £35 mill.

{Ed001's Note - because Klopp had fully intended to hang on to Coutinho, but he has burnt his bridges and Klopp wants rid, so a replacement was sought - Lemar.}

30 Aug 2017 14:54:58
Is Lemar who you would have picked to replace Coutinho Ed001?

Or would you have not bothered with replacing him and gone for a different position?

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - out of all the available options he does seem the best of them. However it is clear we need to replace Lovren far more, so I would have prioritised that first off.}

30 Aug 2017 15:00:05
Ed001, do you think now is the time to put Joe Gomez ahead of Lovren in the CB pecking order? (providing Joes not playing at RB)

From what I have seen, Joe has only been getting better and better at RB with time on the pitch. Could be the same case if he gets time at CB.

{Ed001's Note - I thought that anyway mate.}

30 Aug 2017 15:00:48
You mean burned the bridge on the last day of the window! Lol my word Mr Klopp! This is getting ridiculous coz end of the day the blame and abuse goes to FSG!

30 Aug 2017 15:05:40
I think Alexis Sanchez is the man to replace Coutinho. In fact, I think he is better than Coutinho, albeit older too.

30 Aug 2017 15:08:18
I'd agree Ed001. What's your thoughts on the cb possible signing.

30 Aug 2017 15:09:44
Klopp has still made a hash of things though. Left everything too late. Lemar looks unlikely now, Coutinho is on a full-strike mode and not willing to play for the club again. If it comes to the worst, we end up without Lemar and retain a player that has pledged to not play for LFC again and would have fetched us 150 million euros. Either way, LFC end up the big losers here.

30 Aug 2017 15:13:37
Defiantly a defender 1st Ed.

30 Aug 2017 15:18:13
Adam, we aren't getting Alexis. He has already rejected us once, why would he change his mind?

30 Aug 2017 15:25:08
Been a rollercoaster ride this transfer window.

30 Aug 2017 16:24:40
Only Harry would think Blame and abuse needs to go somewhere? What happened to supporting? The window doesn't shut and we know bthe club is doing what they can but still all the poison is flying around. get a grip.

30 Aug 2017 17:49:25
Is the Lemar deal dead now as per the reports online?

30 Aug 2017 14:45:25
Reports of a Medical for Oxlade-Chamberlain.

30 Aug 2017 15:02:41
2 more medicals to go then 👍.

30 Aug 2017 15:08:49
Where did you read / hear the reports?

30 Aug 2017 15:10:00
Interesting that this didn't pick up. Heard on the bbc radio news that we apperently reached an agreement. didn't hear the fee so i haven posted it.

30 Aug 2017 15:16:23
Please don't sing him, we don't buy players for 35 mil to sit on the bench, he will be playing and will ruin our form and offers nothing to us. It will be a huge step backward and I doubt we will be able to challenge for top four with him in the side why can't the club see that! .

30 Aug 2017 14:35:57
One last question on Lemar Ed01, do you think he offers more than Coutinho, or is Phil the better player in your eyes? In other words, if we didn't buy Lemar and PC ends up staying would that be ok (from a footballing point of view)?

{Ed001's Note - hard to say, I have not seen enough of Lemar, but usually a player that wants to be somewhere will perform at a higher level.}

30 Aug 2017 14:44:46
Thing is, Coutinho has made it abundantly clear that he will refuse to play if selected. Then made himself available for Brazil. We need to get shot, get the money in and bring in Lemar. Anything less would be a catastrophe.

30 Aug 2017 15:19:52
Dennis, I want rid of Cou as well but we can't just get shot of Cou if we don't have a replacement. That does not make any sense. If Lemar is not signing, keeping Cou would be the way to go like it or not.

30 Aug 2017 16:24:43
But by the same token Bingo, what's the point of keeping a player who refuses to play for the club, he's disrespecting the club and us the paying supporters. We should be pushing hard for the replacement and rinsing Barcelona for every penny we can, forget any deal for Ox as he's just squad fillet at best.

30 Aug 2017 14:28:56
Some reports claiming we shelved interest in Lemar after refusing to pay Monaco's £75 million asking price.

30 Aug 2017 14:37:31
Barcelona have stepped up their interest.

30 Aug 2017 14:41:07
And we will be left with a player on strike. Marvellous.

30 Aug 2017 14:42:37
I've heard that too, only on Instagram. If they sign Lemar and we keep phil I'd be happy.

30 Aug 2017 14:45:57
Dropping interest in Lemar who will be a world class player for Oxlade is as stupid as it gets.

30 Aug 2017 14:50:50
Barrmun, Coutinho doesn want to play for us any more and is on strike. Why keep him?

30 Aug 2017 14:52:04
But will Phil be happy?

30 Aug 2017 15:00:07
Or more games by people in background to force through the Coutinho deal.

30 Aug 2017 15:22:13
We are not keeping him by choice, Dennis. Monaco won't sell Lemar to us and that is the issue here. We cannot sell Cou w/ o a ready replacement so we have no choice but to keep him. BTW, Ox was never a replacement for Cou as we were getting him as a squad filler anyway, per Ed01.

30 Aug 2017 14:26:13
I don't really watch much or Arsenal if I'm honest. I catch them on match of the day, and that's about it.

Can someone more knowledgeable than I explain what AOC would bring in midfield over James Milner?

Both seem similar types of players to me and since Milner can't get a game, I'm struggling to see it.

Anyway, it doesn't matter because we already have the best midfielder in the league, EMRE CAN!

30 Aug 2017 14:33:11
He would bring nothing in the center midfiled. If anything he will block Grujic and sent him out! £35 mill for someone who is in his last year of contract? lol Juventus walked away for that price for Emre Can!

30 Aug 2017 14:48:14
People are getting hung up for nothing.

Currently, if either Mane or Salah get injured or need resting we have to wreck our style of play by putting Origi or Firmino out wide, or play a youth player. Chamberlain is a better wide man than Origi and Firmino so that improves our depth and maintains balance.

Additionally, our midfield is incredibly flat without Lallana who gets injured every time he goes away with England, and Coutinho who is leaving. The Ox is direct player who is not afraid to try a difficult pass or run at people. His advantage over Henderson, Can and Gini is that he doesn't play it safe 9 times out of 10. Being unpredictable makes it harder to mark him out the game.

You would like to think that we will sign Lemar to be the creative force so that Ox can just cover the wings and attacking midfield. If not though, i think purely for the balance of the side Ox would start ahead of Wijnaldum until Lallana is fit, and if as i expect under Klopp, Ox can add goals to his game, he would probably keep his place.

Lallana has had 6 good months at LFC at the start of last season before he reverted back to square one. He is also about 30 and probably available if anyone made a suitable bid.

The Ox is a very good signing, and very good player when you consider he's still very young and has potential to get much better.

The main thing for me is his shooting. He can strike a ball well, but he needs to add more goals to his game. For his position you expect 10 a season in all competitions. His best at Arsenal is 6. His all around game is good though and not many midfielders in their early 20's hit double figures. That is why should also go for Lemar though, because he is a rare midfielder who does score double at a young age.

{Ed001's Note - do you really believe Hendo, Can and Wijnaldum play it safe 9 times out of 10? If you do then you haven't watched us play once under Klopp!}

30 Aug 2017 14:52:59
He has more pace than Milner, that's all I can offer Navy.

30 Aug 2017 15:09:12
Just a figure of speech Ed. My point is, although Can looks better at it this season, Hendo and Gini aren't the type of players to regularly run at people and put them on the back foot. (Obviously they have a better passing range than Ox though) . Lallana tries to make runs on the ball but lacks power so can easily be knocked off it.

It's pretty obvious Klopp realises this which is why he wanted Keita for next season. We're too flat footed in midfield and it can slow us down at times. In certain games, Ox could be used in midfield to rectify that. I think Klopp mainly wants him as wide cover though and as an impact sub.

30 Aug 2017 15:29:15
MK, but Ox lacks the ability, skill, and skill that Wiji and Lallana have so he may be able to run up and down (any blithering player can do that provided you are fit) the pitch, he does not offer the quality, goals and assists that both these players have. he has scored 9 goals in 170 games for Arsenal. Wiji scored more in one season at Newcastle. Ox is nothing better than a squad filler and that is the reality and making Hendo, Wiji, and Lallana look bad in a bid to make Ox look good, will not change that. In fact, it is quite disappointing and you are better than that.

30 Aug 2017 14:08:36
I just don't really understand the acquisition of AOC, he's a decent utility player but I'm pretty sure he's being promised more than that. Is he better than wijnaldum? No, is he better than lallana? No. I understand Lallana is an injury prone player but so is OX, his injury record is even worse in fact, there's no chance he will stay fit the way we play. Lemar should be the only diverse player we should go for, why over pack the squad only because one of our best players is leaving. We've already brought in Salah, Keita for next season so all we would need is lemar.

Personally I don't believe we were ever going to sign both lemar and OX I think it was one or the other, and to me it's a no brainer, considering one of our best players is leaving. Yes lemar is much more expensive, but he's younger and brings far more quality to the table, OX would be sitting on the bench week in week out when everyone's fit. If we do get both then no problem, I don't think it does much for team morale but it could work, I just doubt we are going for both. This is just my opinion.

30 Aug 2017 14:33:03
Kman, MK disagrees with you. He thinks Ox is better than Lallana. make of that, what you will.

30 Aug 2017 14:34:00
Coutinho might remain at Liverpool beyond this window.

30 Aug 2017 14:47:22
We can't defend, he has refused point blank to play again for us.

30 Aug 2017 15:30:50
Dennis, that is no longer his decision and really, it never was. We agreed to sell provided a replacement could be found and if Lemar is unattainable, he has to stay whether he likes it or not. That's not what I want but it is the reality.

30 Aug 2017 14:00:45
Hi Eds,

Please don't hurt me.

Do you think we could be waiting to see what other business we can conclude today and tomorrow before agreeing to let Coutinho go?

Cheers in advance.

{Ed001's Note - yes.}

30 Aug 2017 14:13:41
Even though he wants rid, i imagine klopp is not silly enough to let our best player go without a suitable replacement.

30 Aug 2017 14:13:50
Lemar's looking unlikely, which means Klopp and Coutinho will have to make peace with each other for another season. Barcelona are aware of this and know LFC will not let Coutinho go unless Lemar signs, hence they will probably turn to Lemar as an alternative to Coutinho.
I just want a CB to come in most importantly. Other wise there will be no title challenge this season either.

30 Aug 2017 14:33:48
That first meeting will be awkward, IB.

30 Aug 2017 14:35:10
€150 mill folks! Not a chance we would ever get that kind of a money on any player ever!

30 Aug 2017 14:57:46
Harry, there is also no chance of us challenging for major honours this season if we let Coutinho and don't sign Lemar. Its not about the money, its about making the squad better.

30 Aug 2017 15:32:41
Spot on, IB. What use is money if you can't spend it. Remember, we don't really need to sell to fund our transfer business so if we can't get Lemar, Klopp is not stupid enough to let Cou go without a replacement.

30 Aug 2017 17:10:24
Mane!

30 Aug 2017 12:37:21
Hi ed 02, big fan of your transfer knowledge I would like to kno if lemar and ox deals are unrelated and would both be signed or is it either one or the other.

{Ed002's Note - I would doubt both and still fail to understand why clubs are keen on AOC.}

30 Aug 2017 14:19:36
i don't understand as well why AOC is wanted, only taking up grujic's opportunity, not to mention we still have lallana out injured.

lemar and vvd with couts, sakho and markovic leaving wouldev been 'sufficient' wouldn't it ed001? ;)

30 Aug 2017 14:10:13
Ed02 dropping the truth again. No one actually knows what Ox brings to the table, especially in midfield.

30 Aug 2017 14:11:10
Ed 002 maybe klipperty likes him but do u see lemar deal going through this late in the window. Thanks for the great work in the site mate.

{Ed002's Note - it will be difficult to persuade ASM to sell.

30 Aug 2017 13:49:23
This window is starting to feel like the client Dempsey one. When we tried to buy a load of players and got it horribly one.
Although in hindsight not a bad thing as didt Brendan offer Henderson in p ex for Dempsey lolol.

30 Aug 2017 13:54:24
its the best window we have ever had if we secure VVD, he would have secured our top 2 targets which we were told were not for sale. Strengthened the squad massively and have players turning down the worlds best clubs to join us. Its a great time to be a red.

30 Aug 2017 14:30:47
No relation to Mr. Dennis i assume? You are far too pleasant.

30 Aug 2017 14:54:03
In terms of the last 10 years, I think this is the best squad assembled thus far at the start of the season, if you include both transfers of this summer till date (Solanke, Salah and Robertson) and internal promotions (TAA, Gomez, Woodburn, Kent etc) . And I am including the team of 2013/ 14. We are probably the same as the attack of that year (although being quicker and more incisive), but definitely better in midfield and defense in comparison to that team. More balanced, more options and more depth on the bench. If we are still letting in silly goals, I think it has to do more with setup and defensive tactics rather than personnel.

30 Aug 2017 13:43:41
Not signing a cb will come back to haunt us. Looks like we didn't have alternative targets to vvd which is a shame. Attack and midfield looking title challenging, defense not so much.

30 Aug 2017 13:48:07
I have a feelin we might go for nevan subotic.

30 Aug 2017 13:50:34
I have to agree, with all these attacking player's we will be playing a 1 6 3 formation for the rest of the season!

30 Aug 2017 13:50:51
Where are you coming up with that?

30 Aug 2017 13:39:30
So according to Sky, Lovren thinks we have the best PL attack. I wonder what he thinks about our defence?

By the way, did he come with a 'give back' clause?

30 Aug 2017 13:34:07
IF and i don't really believe in it but IF we manage to sign Lemar, VVD, OX and keep Coutinho im expecting at least one title this year. I really rate Klopp and know him since he coached Mainz but if your spending this big you should get something out of it.

With the players named we have a squad that is as good as Utd, Chelsea and City and we can't hide behind the excuse from last year that our team is the weekest out of the top 6.

30 Aug 2017 13:47:09
Journo mate who does sport for aunty has said AOC for£40m Lemar doubtful as is VVD.

30 Aug 2017 13:47:42
I believe Coutinho will be going to Barcelona on Thursday.

30 Aug 2017 13:30:29
Ed what's happening with lemar now?

{Ed001's Note - he is djing on BBC Radio London on Sundays these days. Bit of a comedown from his chart days, but we all have to make ends meet somehow.}

30 Aug 2017 13:26:40
I wonder how many times we will here the fraise--sky souces are telling us--tomoz 😀.

30 Aug 2017 13:20:45
Was just thinking who of the previous managers signed which players from the current squad. Struggling to remember but did Brendan sign Clyne, Gomez, Lovren, Moreno, Can, Coutinho, Milner, Lallana, Sturridge, Ings, Origi and Firmino? Didn't he also give Sterling his debut and get shot of Carroll? Not sure where I'm going with this but Brendan's legacy is going to play a big part of any success we have we this squad. His team selections used to frustrate at times and there's no way he motivates players like Klopp can - but maybe his tenure should be better respected.

I think Kenny signed Henderson, and Mignolet leaving Salah, Matip, Mane and Wijnaldum as Klopp signings.

Happy to stand corrected if I got any of that wrong or missed any.

30 Aug 2017 13:34:00
as much as I couldn't stand him any time he opened his mouth I have to agree with you.

30 Aug 2017 13:41:13
Yep.

And reaffirms the difference between a manager and a coach.

For example a manager must bring his 9qn players in and get to ship a whole host of players out.

A coach comes in because he is better suited to the players already in the squad.

We went with the coach rather than the manager and it has worked wonders.

30 Aug 2017 13:42:15
Couthino was identfied by rafa and tracked by liverpool for a really long time, firmino was transfer committee and awuful as a wing back under rodgers.

{Ed001's Note - Rodgers was head of the transfer committee.}

30 Aug 2017 13:47:52
Mignolet was Rodgers.

30 Aug 2017 14:15:02
Pompey, you are partially incorrect. It was KK who gave Flanno and Sterling their debuts vs City in 2011 (3-0 to LFC) and vs Wigan in 2012 (1-2 to Wigan) . Also, BR's legacy is tarnished by saying that even tho as the head of the TC, he oversaw the signing of most of these players (including the hapless Balotelli), he could not wait to slag them off, destroy them in the media, trash the TC for undermining him (while he was the boss of them) in a bid to save his own neck when the pressure was on. Sorry but those are the facts.

He signed Can, Lallana, Firmino, Lovren, Moreno and did not know what to do with them. It took a top manager to come in and make them better. He almost got shot of Hendo in favor of his son Allen and is Allen still here? No. His tenure can never be respected as it should IMO, cos he unlike Klopp, would never defend the players nor would he take responsibility for anything that went wrong under him due to his own arrogance. He may have come to us as a good coach BUT left us as politician who cared a lot more about his image in the media thantaking care of his own players.

30 Aug 2017 15:12:03
Yeah I'd go along with that Bingo. It's just that when I started going through the BR signings from the current squad the names just kept coming. I think Klopp has markedly improved Firmino, Lallana and Can from the players they were under BR and also deserves credit for keeping hold of Gomez and Moreno (fingers crossed on Moreno) . The Klopp magic hasn't worked so well on Clyne and Lovren but his 4 big signings so far have all worked out pretty well - Mane, Wijnaldum, Matip and Salah with a cracking prospect in Dom Solanke - so no reason not to trust him in this window.

I think if we could get Lamar and VVD for similar dough that comes in for Coutinho then we should do it. It is a shame however that we won't see a fully firing Pipco playing for the current LFC 1st 11. We may never know how good that could've been.

30 Aug 2017 15:36:38
Spot on, Pompey.

30 Aug 2017 13:17:59
Guys if we sign the ox. We need to support him if klopp likes him then that will do for me. I think he will have a point to prove that he can get better.

I think it's a positive thing that a player want us over last year's champions.

30 Aug 2017 13:42:21
Yes he young english, knows the english league, has pure pace an power if used correct could b a gud weapon, and in klopps system will definitely thrive an get better, strength in depth, now a cb, lemar an we will b happy.

30 Aug 2017 13:42:22
Living in a dream world there lad. Clamouring for anything to grab onto as it's such a bad signing.

Who cares if klopp wants him. Doesn't mean he's good enough. Pointless use of funds and contract payments. Would rather see one of the bench players make it.

30 Aug 2017 12:57:36
Any truth that Klopp wants both Lemar and Ox? rather then just one or the other.

30 Aug 2017 13:03:03
You'd imagine if he wanted Ox anyway then lemar to replace couts, yes, but can't see two coming in!

30 Aug 2017 13:04:22
I think so! What are we building 🙄🙄Scary!

30 Aug 2017 13:05:23
ed001 said it.

30 Aug 2017 13:13:03
Are you paying the wages Adam?

30 Aug 2017 13:15:16
It's conceivable that he wants both. I don't see both players having any type of similar role on the field, at all. I see Lemar as a direct Coutinho replacement on the left wing or center of midfield with focus on attack. I see Ox as a midfield player who is reconverted to a Lallana/ Wijnaldum role behind the front 3, with the added benefit of being able to play on the wings in case of need or major injury.

30 Aug 2017 14:01:12
Ra1969, it is being reported that Ox is demanding to play in CM and Arsenal and Chelsea rejected his demand cos clearly, they don't think he's good enuff there so why should we accept to put him in CM, something the other clubs rejected?

Also, Comparing Ox to Lallana or Wiji is laughable cos in no way or shape or form, is Ox blessed with the skill, talent and ability that both players have. No way! And he is inferior to Mane and Salah out wide either as he can't even cross a ball. He has scored 9 goals and 7 assists in 170 games for Arsenal. That says it all, really. If he wants to come in for depth then we should pay 20m for him cos a 40m player, he definitely is not. Salah, Wiji (at Newcastle), Mane and Cou all scored more goals in one season than Ox has scored in about 6 seasons. If Klopp wants him then so be it BUT people should stop describing a player who does not exist.

{Ed001's Note - Arsenal rejected nothing, they offered him a new deal which he turned down.}

30 Aug 2017 14:16:32
Thanks for the clarification, Ed.

30 Aug 2017 17:49:37
Daniel, say something positive to prove you are not a WUM.

Or alternatively head back to your own message board :)

30 Aug 2017 12:53:06
anyone spotted any more private jets landing latley at Liverpool airport from Bournemouth am waiting for some lost luggage 😅.

30 Aug 2017 12:46:27
I know the market has gone mad recently but even so I cannot see the Ox being worth the reported 30 mil we have bid for him considering he has one year left on his contract.

He seems to have made it pretty clear that he would like to join us, so instead of getting fleeced by Arsenal, surely we could wait until he is free to move next summer and give the role he would have played this season to a couple of the promising youngsters we have?

30 Aug 2017 13:13:08
Should do a straight swap with sakho. That will solve a few problems.

30 Aug 2017 14:03:00
Herring, 40m for Ox is daylight robbery for a supremely limited player.

30 Aug 2017 12:34:44
You know I've just got to say I'm not that big of a Lemar fan, back in the day I was all about that Usher. luv ya eds.

30 Aug 2017 12:52:29
Was more of a JT fan and not john terry.

30 Aug 2017 12:21:26
Reds, I think we need to not focus on whether AOC will join or not, or whether he's good enough or not but we need to remember where Arsenal bought him from. Then all becomes clear.

30 Aug 2017 12:32:10
Nailed it!

30 Aug 2017 12:57:05
Listen. Yes it's been good 4ehecting others for a potential move to us but we could all do that, I want to move to Liverpool. Should they sign me?

We should only buy better players than we have. Which up yo now we have been doing. Is ox that?

Oh he's a utility player. What is that exactly. A back of all trades and master of none. A 70 mil man. If we need a 70 min man then we have grujic, sturridge, solanke, Woodburn, lallana, and potentially origin after Thursday.

We're does the ox fit into that.

We should be looking yo keep coutinho or sign someone who can potentially emulate what we he for us. Not someone who has to play rwb because he's not as good as welbeck, walcott or iwobi.

30 Aug 2017 12:57:46
So by that reckoning Walcott will follow soon!
:- (.

{Ed001's Note - he was a Liverpool fan as a boy as well.}

30 Aug 2017 13:14:26
{Ed001's Note - he was a Liverpool fan as a boy as well. }

So was I.
And I've lived in Southampton for a year.
I'm still available for transfer at a cut price £25m.

{Ed001's Note - there we go then, replacement for Couts sorted.}

30 Aug 2017 13:38:57
It should quote simple be Lemar or coutinho now.

Vvd obviously.

That's it. There are choices.

The ox. Really. Year after year we kicked off on Brendan for signings like that. A utility man. Like Milner? In fact we should sign him. oh wait.

30 Aug 2017 12:20:15
Just wondering if klopp has seen the champions league groups and thought that we should qualify from that group with our present batch of cbs, and cope in the league, leaving VVD until January window? Who knows what the situation will be like by then with sorting our relationship with Southampton or how VVD has worked his situation at his club. He won't be cup tied for next round of champions league, nor for the FA cup, and by then we'll be ready for some reinforcements at cb. Just a thought.

30 Aug 2017 12:43:10
I can almost sense the sarcastic response that Ed002 nearly put after this post.

Very well restrained Ed, nice one.

{Ed001's Note - Ed002 didn't deal with it mate.}

30 Aug 2017 12:17:33
Good day to all the redmen out there. just want to firstly thank the Eds for putting up with all the repeatitive questions every second of this chaotic transfer window "RTFP"
To all the fellow reds we are on the up, and jurgenmeister is the reason we are seeing some major improvements on the pitch today gents. believe in his vision to take the club forward and he will get the right players in the club to see us mount a real challenge in all comps this season. We've come along way from Brenda and Hodgson, and lack of quality in the team (Balotelli, Lambert, Dossena, Poulsen, Pongolle etc ) . We have cleaned out most of the necessary trash with the exception of a few and building towards a more competitive side. Kloppo is not only improving the players quality but also building their stamina and mental strength. We are I agree a few more quality signings away from being a top notch side, but who better to lead us there?
Champions league music is back at Anfield, with that blistering attack ready to tear defenses down, who knows how far we can go! . heads up gents we are LFC.

30 Aug 2017 12:12:35
Apparentaly Arsenal have rejected a 30ml bid from us for Ox.

30 Aug 2017 11:57:30
All this transfer talk is great bringing in x to replace x and so on
But for me if we don't sign a cb (I'd prefer vvd) but any quality cb to partner matip then I think we'll still struggle.
So we've got to say the vvd saga is a huge f**k up.

30 Aug 2017 11:33:47
Don't want the Ox. But VVD and Lemar will make us unbelievably strong.

30 Aug 2017 11:25:19
On current Liverpool players I hope origi gets a loan to a good club and first team football. His ability to become a top class forward remains. He needs to continue to work hard and become more clinical. I'd like to see him go to Monaco if there interest in him is true. Hopefully if he goes and performs we have a great striker to return next season because I suspect this could be sturridges last season. Origi could still have a great future at this club.

30 Aug 2017 12:05:08
Spot on, Big Al. Ed01 said that Origi would have been kept if Studge had left but he chose to stay, which blocked from Origi getting more chances. Klopp loves him and Origi has proven that even without starting every game, he can score goals has all the tools needed to be top class and he has scored 22 goals in two seasons with us. Those saying Solanke is better are deluded. Origi is not competing with Solanke. He is competing with Studge. We know this cos Origi actually put Studge on the bench a few times in 15/ 16.

Origi has shown that he is can be unplayable on his day. Just ask Mats Hummels and the whole Everton backline who are terrified of him. Solanke tho talented and I love him as well, has proven absolutely nothing yet so you can't be better than someone who has proven a lot more than you have, plain and simple. Origi just needs to be more consistent and work on his game and playing regularly will help him immensely.

30 Aug 2017 12:14:46
I have that feeling too. Sturridge needs and wants gametime and also is not getting any younger (he must be 27 or 28 by now) .

Personally i could see him going to West Ham and with a couple of very decent years left (IF not getting injured) he would do just fine there.

30 Aug 2017 11:07:08
Reports in France i. e L'Équipe and RMC sport think that the Lemar deal including Origi will go ahead. Obviously that's what the French news are saying, but Monaco are a tough team to bargain with and it'll be even harder with time not on our side.

I think the best thing to do for now is wait and see what the next 24hrs has got for us. Eds and Macca good luck with all the ranting coming your way.

30 Aug 2017 10:55:30
Not really sure about the hatred towards Coutinho. Yes he has wanted a move to Barcelona for over a year, but to be honest, not many players turn down the chance once the big Spanish clubs come knocking. The whispering in ears from friends on international duty is not a new thing, in fact our own Stevie G admitted it recently.
The only real problem I think we have is the face that he has missed the last few games. I don't know the full story on that, so will reserve judgment until I do. It maybe that he started with a injury, then klopp decided that his head wasn't straight to play for the first team. It could be that with the amount of cash on the table it wasn't worth risking injuring him just in case we decided to case in. What I am trying to say is that unless he refused to play or train then absence might not be his decision.
I have never seen him sulk or not give 100% on the pitch. All the info I have heard about him and his attitude have been positive.
We all want us to keep our best players, but how do we do that if we don't make them stay? Do we only sign potential world class players who only ever want to play for Liverpool? Can't see us finding many of those!

30 Aug 2017 11:04:42
No hatred from me, if he wants to go, fine, get the best price we can and bring in Lemar. He is a transient employee. Nothing more nothing less, the important thing is to rationally look at his ability and replace that like for like, so we need someone who has good vision, can score goals out of nothing and has good delivery at set pieces, which is Lemar. Him staying will be toxic for the club.

30 Aug 2017 11:14:49
Players come and go (and he may yet stay - against his will) . My only disappointment is him turning out for Brazil in this moment - but you're right, we don't know the full facts.

30 Aug 2017 11:22:49
If he stays then all should be smoothed over.
But come on, you can't say you've never seen him sulk or not give 100% on the pitch. You're right, you haven't been able to see it, becos he just didn't show up for the 1st 5 games of the season.

30 Aug 2017 11:56:27
Losing Phil Won't affect us as much as losing Suarez did, we've yet to get back to 2nd where Luis got us.
I want him gone for faking an injury. But At the same time if we kept him for 12 months 🤔 The team would look great.
So we can't lose really, aslong as we replace him if he's sold. Have to replace him. Vital.

30 Aug 2017 12:08:45
Hatred is too strong of a word to be used in football. There are more serious things going on in the world that hatred can be used to describe it.

30 Aug 2017 10:54:02
hi edds,

Can someone explain to me why we want ox. In my opinion he wouldn't get into any prem team and proved on sunday exactly why. He doesn't try when the going gets tough, can't pass the ball and dribbles into nowhere. we would be seventh choice centre mid and fifth choice winger so what exactly is the point? . He does not provide pace and is the exact opposite of a klopp player as is not a willing runner and defence capabilities are non existent.

thanks.

30 Aug 2017 11:09:14
Klopp clearly likes him. That's what currently matters mate. I think the moves now being pushed because lemar looks unlikely. Same with Robertson. Not first choice but rubbish happens I wasn't happy with buying Robertson and won't be if we get ox but we'll just have to accept it.
What we desperately need right now though is a centre back.

30 Aug 2017 11:11:57
Agree he wouldn't be first choice. But for Wenger, Conte and Klopp to want him in their squad their must be something about him!

30 Aug 2017 11:15:54
Doesn't try? Rubbish. Last season when they lost 10-1 to Bayern he almost lost his head because he was the only one trying.

Can't pass? Total crap. He got 12 assists last season. None of our players could match that.

Dribbling and pace are his main strengths and somehow you think he has neither?

No defensive capabilities yet he has played wing back in cup finals facing up against Hazard and then Pedro, of which Arsenal have won both.

He has his weaknesses. He doesn't track runners in midfield and he needs to score more goals but you are literally making stuff up.

{Ed001's Note - Wijnaldum and Lallana both got more assists than him in the league, as did Matty Phillips and Wilfried Zaha, do you want us to go for them too based on one dreadful stat that is utterly meaningless? The assist stat is the worst of the lot.}

30 Aug 2017 11:36:06
I'm not using that stat to claim he is a better player than anyone Ed. I'm simply using it to debunk the statement that he "he can't pass the ball".

That is an over the top ill considered sweeping statement. He clearly can pass the ball. If the OP had questioned the consistency or range of his passing, I'd consider it acceptable debate and a fair opinion. But he didn't. It was just senseless, over the top abuse which can easily be torn up with a simple stat. It doesn't need context in this scenario because 12 assists in any top flight league/ Champions league is proof you can pass. It doesn't conclusively prove how good he is at it, but it does rubbish the theory he is totally inept at it.

{Ed001's Note - but it doesn't mean he can pass the ball. It means a ball has come from him and someone has put it in the back of the net before anyone else has had a touch. Depending on the stats company that compiled them, that could come from him shooting and hitting bar or post and coming out to a player following up. It could also mean he trips over the ball and the next player to reach it scored after beating 10 players. Assists are utterly completely meaningless bollox without knowing how they came about.}

30 Aug 2017 11:39:53
I also didn't say we should sign him because he got 12 assists by the way Ed, so i think you've misinterpreted something there.

I think we should sign him because he is versatile, proven at the very top level, still young, suits Klopps style of play and clearly has raw talent. I've only ever used his assist tally to defend him or support my opinion, not as the basis for it.

{Ed001's Note - he is not proven though is he? His assist tally is meaningless, it is no defence nor does it support your opinion as it is just numbers with no context.}

30 Aug 2017 11:54:57
Ed all 12 of them can be seen on readily available highlight reels. Most of them were crosses and intricate through balls. I don't see why i need to explain each assist individually to validate a tally of 12. You are right, some can be fluked, but nobody flukes 12.

{Ed001's Note - tell that to Downing who got none despite creating more scoring chances than any player in the Premier League in a season. Assists are the worst stat of all. They are as reliant on the player receiving the ball to be in the right place and having the good fortune or ability to put the ball in the net, as well as the keeper not being there. I am not disputing whether or not Ox is a decent passer, I am disputing your usage of the worst stat of them all to try and prove a point it in no way proves or even relates to.}

30 Aug 2017 11:57:57
i just think he offers little in comparison to lemar, he would be twice the price but twice the player. He offers a back up incase salah or mane get injured or even firmino. Also against teams that play deeper which is 80% of prem games then he is provides more creativity in midfield than that of one of can wijnalum and henderson. When its hard to break them down he provides an alternate solution where as ox doesn't do any of this.

30 Aug 2017 12:16:13
MK, you were the same guy who said Ox was better than Lallana, right? Yeah, you did that. Come on, use your eyes, man. Ox is simply poor. period. The guy can't pass, can't cross, can't score. He's marginally better than Welbeck, which is a scathing indictment on Ox's ability, really. He is a failed winger and is a non-entity in CM. He offers next to nothing to our team apart from depth. Now if you want a stat, here's one for you: Ox has scored an enormous 9 goals in 170 games. Let that sink in. Salah, Mane, Cou, Lallana, Wiji (at Newcastle) all scored more than him in one season and each player cost much less than Ox if signed for 40m. Job done! You're welcome.

30 Aug 2017 12:21:06
He's a mid table player at best.

30 Aug 2017 12:47:43
i don't think he's that, your telling me he would get in the west ham team?, or even bournmouth?, i don't think so he's a championship player at best and i pray to god he doesn't come. it would be him or lemar so i want klopp to think seriously before we go backwards and don't win a thing again as we have to give a 35 mil pound man game time.

30 Aug 2017 17:31:38
There were 9 other players not worthy of any prem team mate. Who are the two other wingers that would start ahead of him.

30 Aug 2017 18:33:19
Seeing as the lad is young, English, plays several positions we could use cover in, is experienced in prem and champions league and by all accounts seems to be a hard worker as well as the fact that he turned down a chance to represent the title winners and leave another strong English team to work with klopp I can't imagine why so many scoff at the signing.

30 Aug 2017 10:45:58
Eds I hear Drinkwater has handed in a transfer request. Do you think Leicester will find that hard to swallow?

30 Aug 2017 10:57:32
I hear they're lining up Alberto Aqua-lani to replace him. 😁.

30 Aug 2017 11:01:52
I suggest they drinkwater then.

30 Aug 2017 11:02:16
You should've seen the look on Shakespeare's face. He looked like Kasper! He's been quoted as saying "who the Fuchs he think he is? "

Albrighton his day up for him though; it looks like Leicester are going to have a great season Ndidi.

30 Aug 2017 11:08:12
He's probable been tapped up😏.

30 Aug 2017 11:10:46
Water load of rubbish!

30 Aug 2017 10:19:50
Thought for the fans on here, if LFC follow the sign VVD at any price route that many seem to want, how long do you reckon it will take for the price to become a weapon to use against him when he makes a mistake? What reason is there that he won't get the same grief as Karius did considering expectations will be higher, despite knowledgeable warnings from the likes of Ed001 and the price tag will be astronomical.

30 Aug 2017 10:28:01
As soon as we don't keep a clean sheet.

30 Aug 2017 10:32:15
Not too long I'm sure.

30 Aug 2017 11:10:40
The pressure will be on him even before he steps onto the turf as a red.
Pogba for one was extensively scrutinized for not justifying his fee last year.
It is upto VVD to gear up for this pressure and deliver calmy (Lovren who took the same route is still not the defender he was at Southampton)

The transfer saga he is involved in doesn't help his case. like us pouncing onto every opportunity to mock Sterling after his departure, Saints aren't going to let him go easy. then, its only our support as home fans that's going to get him where we want him to reach.

30 Aug 2017 12:49:30
I actually think if he moves the best thing that could happen is an early game against them, will give a reason for the fans to get behind him, theirs will be on his case and maybe a decent performance will get him the breathing space.

30 Aug 2017 10:10:11
Looks like Arsenal could get VVD.

30 Aug 2017 16:12:43
It really doesn't.

30 Aug 2017 09:44:06
We can make a new law of newton time remaining for closure of tw is equal to or lesser than the pressure for fans. that aside i think lemar will happen. because if monaco don't want to sell at this hour we wouldn't try to increase the bid will we?

30 Aug 2017 09:17:53
Apparently Barcelona are preparing a bid for lemar. Least that means we keep coutinio. Sounds like a convenient story for journalists and probably not true but.

30 Aug 2017 09:39:14
Keep a player that not only doesn't want to be here and has been actively seeking a move for a year? We are best getting the most we can and signing Lemar, Coutinho will be toxic in the group and we don't need that.

30 Aug 2017 16:07:21
I don't want Coutinho at the club no matter how good he is. He's messed up his relationship with everyone involved at the club after being able to train for Brazil. It's pathetic.

30 Aug 2017 16:13:01
Barcelona need to start paying what people want, lemar/ Coutinho, they have the money so pay it, it's not a sofa from bright house you can't buy these players on the weekly, they're sitting in a fortune spend it or save it but don't act all butt hurt when they don't get what they want.

30 Aug 2017 09:08:35
Eds n Reds, I feel like we are at a point where we have to choose between either Henderson or Emre. My reasoning is i don't see Emre as a permanent CM in our midfield looking at how our team is evolving. obviously Coutinho was going to be alongside Keita infront of Henderson in an ideal world. That hasn't happened this year so there will be opportunities this season, but i feel like Emre sees things this way and is reluctant to sign because of it. i actually think its fair enough on his behalf, at only 23 he's at a level where a team like Juventus are willing to give him the assurances he might be after rather than playing as, in my mind Hendersons back up. personally i would be making the call to make Emre our CDM. that tho is very easy for ME to say, but i think from a managers point of view it would be really diffucult to make that call, on the Captain of a team that apear from the outside to be very close knit and are right now playing good football together. Henderson is also a top professional and i think a good leader. But is that enough if someone is proving to be the better option.? And when is the right time to make that sort of call.? Especially in Emre's case who is willing to run his contract down and move on. Thoughts.?

30 Aug 2017 09:37:39
Can likes to drive forward with the ball. So when deploying him to any role you have to consider this attribute.

30 Aug 2017 09:39:33
Why would you waste can as a defensive mid?

30 Aug 2017 09:50:19
It's a good point made, I think everyone here knows what Hendo brings, but the way we could line up in midfield next year, it would be great to secure Can . He has improved so much and influences games much more .
If it was one or the other ide prefer we had Can, . Klopp has shown he can be ruthless, which is no bad thing .

30 Aug 2017 09:51:40
There is a justifiable debate about who's the better player between Hendo and Can, there are certainly things Can does better than Hendo but there are a lot of people, and it seems Klopp is one of them, who see Hendo as the more effective player.

Hendo brings discipline and control to the team, something equally important to flair and creativity. He's also our only player who has that quality. Can has a lot of talent but would I put him in team if I had Hendo, Coutinho and Keita (assuming he's as good as we're told he is) available? No I wouldn't.

30 Aug 2017 10:07:44
The beauty of playing both of them is when one goes forward the other sits and knows the position, If Emre is having no luck then he switches with Henderson it happened against arsenal all the time when Hendo pressed hard Can dropped in and stayed to cover while Hendo did the leg work I do think with both on top form with the addition of Gigi or whoever it will be very difficult for any team to beat them.

30 Aug 2017 10:34:08
Can scores goals which is vital when you play two B2B players as well Wiji. Henderson simply doesn't!

30 Aug 2017 10:55:35
Harry, Can wouldn't be scoring those goals if he was playing in Hendo's position.

30 Aug 2017 08:02:57
I remember ed telling you guys that liverpool majorly screwed up regarding the tapping up of VVD, it was always my opinion that this stuff always happens and ed slaughtered you guys for suggesting that and that the tapping up would affect business with other clubs but it doesn't seem that way with you signing keita, maybe lemar and ox and already salah. Whys this the case?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool tapped up Keita - they cheated there as well.}

30 Aug 2017 10:10:23
Question for the eds are we seeing a move at clubs to offloading players who don't want to stay rather than the old fashioned banished to the reserves attitude? Also linked question is this window, with such big money being talked about and a lot of what seem to be big name disgruntled stories now the norm or do you see it as a bit of a one off?

{Ed002's Note - It is player powe largely that needs to be taken away from them.}

30 Aug 2017 10:29:38
Thanks for the reply, that does make sense, do you think that will happen or the players will get more control?

{Ed002's Note - they won't get more if the clubs get their way}

30 Aug 2017 08:52:39
Reds and Eds, I am a little concerned.
I feel that we do not really need to sign Lemar and absolutely do not need the OX.

I would rather we make commitments to Can as he is developing in to a real force.

If we sign a decent centre half and then concentrate on Can extending, that would be the best outcome for me. Whether Couts goes or stays, I think Can is the most important signing.

What do you guys think?

{Ed001's Note - Lemar is a totally different type of player to Can. The two are totally unrelated.}

30 Aug 2017 09:19:06
Comparing Lemar to Can is like comparing David Silva to Fernandinho! What is happening to the most knowledgable fans these days, I wonder 🙄.

30 Aug 2017 09:29:04
Sorry I think I have not communicated properly. I do not compare Lemar to Can, it is more my thought that we do not need to prioritise Lemar or the Ox. I personally feel we have enough across midfield (especially with Keita next year and youngsters coming through) . As such, I would prefer we focus on a defender and getting Can to commit to a new contract. If that happened I would say the window had been a very successful window.

30 Aug 2017 09:55:16
I think signing Lemar, VVD and keeping Can are priorities. Forget buying AOC and that would suit me, having signed Solanke, Robertson, Salah and Kieta (coming next year I know) that would be good business - even with the departure of Coutinho.
I am concerned we did not accept the £25mil for Sakho - let him go and restart his career. Would like to see the players that don't fit as such move on.

30 Aug 2017 10:06:00
Harry, have you ever heard the saying "that's rich coming from you"?

Very popular in British culture.

30 Aug 2017 08:37:37
Ed001 at some stage (add to your to do list) could I request a report on imo the three superstars of tomorrow in mbappe neymar and assensio.

I just watched Madrid Valencia and seriously assensio is silly good forget the fact I've never seen someone hit a ball so easily from 40 yards that nearly breaks the net but his touch control dribbling and passing is pushing messi standard for me.

What are others opinions having seen a lot of neymar assensio and a little of mbappe I put mbappe currently at the bottom but huge potential and while I think neymar could be the most effective player I seriously just smile watching assensio!

{Ed001's Note - ok mate added them to the to do list.}

30 Aug 2017 09:30:28
Appreciated sir, enjoy the last day of the window hopefully the Liverpool fan in you will be smiling even if working you is not!

{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed!}

30 Aug 2017 08:23:54
Hi, reading a lot about vdd, lemar and ox coming to us before deadline. How true is it and if so what chance getting it done please? So far away don't know what to think. Thank you.

30 Aug 2017 08:58:50
I hope we land the three of them we need a huge squad this season. YNWA.

30 Aug 2017 09:21:23
My 2c.

We're obviously wanting VVD bad - probably 50/ 50 if Southampton relent and decide to sell him or not. I suspect it'll happen though.

Lemar feels a good chance but the price is likely to be high - c.80m Euro perhaps. If we get him then Coutinho leaves for sure.

I suspect Ox is very likely to happen if Lemar doesn't sign, probably less so if we manage to get Lemar as they're quite similar from a positional perspective i. e. both attacking midfielders able to play on the wing. Not sure we need both.

I believe Couts will be leaving unless we fail to sign a replacement. With both Lemar and Ox in play that seems unlikely now.

30 Aug 2017 08:08:24
So the OX is turning down a move to Chelsea because of the role he would be playing (Wing Back) and prefers a move to Liverpool.

Do we really need a player dictating the role they will play before moving. Whilst I actually rate him and think he would add some depth to the squad surely he would be played out wide more than centrally for us.

Do we think this is deal will be done eds? Or is it a back up option if the Lemar deal doesn't come off?

{Ed001's Note - it is nothing to do with Lemar.}

30 Aug 2017 08:17:48
So potential for both players then? Surely that would be Can's and probably Grujic's fate sealed and Couts Diego off to Barcelona then.

30 Aug 2017 08:28:41
Klopp likes him and I expect this deal to go before tomorrow midnight! OX knows Liverpooo will come in FM him before tomorrow!

30 Aug 2017 08:38:21
He won't be playing in CM or starting out wide with Mane and Salah being fit, that much is clear. He is being brought in for depth and utility purposes.

30 Aug 2017 08:44:32
He's dictating a role that he has never played well in or has the capacity to play in.

30 Aug 2017 08:45:32
I disagree ed001, I think if we fail to get lemar, we get ox, they can both play centrally and out wide!

{Ed001's Note - I don't think you understand, if we get Lemar we might still go for Ox. It is not a related move, it was just put on the backburner as Chelsea had agreed a fee and we weren't getting involved in a bidding war when we had more important targets to get.}

30 Aug 2017 09:17:06
Oh ok thanks ed001. Good luck from now till 11 tomorrow night! Your going to need it! 😂.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate you are right.}

30 Aug 2017 07:07:25
I'm hoping we turned down 25 mil for Salgo as he will be used to sweeten the deal for VVD.

30 Aug 2017 07:39:14
Sakho? I don't see why a club we're struggling to do business with would see the offer of Sakho (a player we want shot of) as anything other than an insult. They don't even want him. If the club wants to do VVD deal they really should keep it as straightforward as possible.

30 Aug 2017 07:41:14
Southampton do not want Sakho. They have already signed VVD's replacement in Wesley Hoedt. Klopp and Co cannot force other clubs to play Football Manager on deadline day.

30 Aug 2017 08:14:10
Palace will stump up full cash today! They are struggling like donkeys! They need Sakho more than Sakho need them!

30 Aug 2017 08:18:35
Agree with Harry. Palace will stump up the cash coz their defense is a huge mess right now. Going for the tried and tested (Sakho) is their best bet now and De Boer will know that. We will get 28-30 million pounds for him. If not, Pulis will be waiting in the wings with a wad of cash from Evans' sale to City.

30 Aug 2017 08:44:26
Sweeten what deal for VVD? Saints don't want him and in fact don't want to sell VVD to LFC either so your point is kind of illogical.

30 Aug 2017 06:52:03
Morning all

Ed001 i've just been reading that apparantly AOC has so far rejected Chelsea and is holding out for us to bid for him as he wants us not them. Does that sound like there is any truth in it to you?

The fact we have bid for Lemar surely means Klopp prefers him over AOC, or could we sign both?

Im just hoping we don't pull out from chasing Lemar and settle with Ox. That would be like going out for Steak and finishing up with a Pot noodle.

{Ed001's Note - yes it is possible, his preference has always been to join us. They are not seen as the same thing to be honest. Lemar is to replace Couts, Ox is a utility player to cover gaps in the squad.}

30 Aug 2017 07:12:17
My beloved Ed 01, Do you think we will sign Lemar?

{Ed001's Note - I do think so yes. Though it will not be easy as Monaco have lost so many players they did not want to lose already this summer.}

30 Aug 2017 07:21:50
How about a straight swap Milner for the ox ;)

30 Aug 2017 07:25:08
Ed001, is Ox content with most probably being a utility player if he comes? From what we understand, he wants to leave because he's sick of being played out of position everywhere, but it seems like Klopp would do exactly the same.

{Ed001's Note - he understands that he will have to accept being used in a number of positions, but he believes he would suit the way Klopp likes his central midfielders to play.}

30 Aug 2017 07:35:53
The price we pay for Lemar will be outrageous though. Im thinking 80 million euros or even more plus Origi on loan. The kid will have a lot of pressure to perform from the get go.

30 Aug 2017 07:53:34
Thing is that he's not good enough for our starting 11. Whereas someone like Lemar or Kovacic genuinely improves us, Oxlade doesn't. He's been shown time and again to lack the ability and intelligence to play centre midfield so why should we waste £40m on a square peg?

30 Aug 2017 08:02:27
It should be Lemar replacing Coutinho. Quality for quality. I'd be ok with OX signing as a squad player but again that may block a youngster's progress into the first team.
So let's just sign Lemar and VVD, and be done with it. Make Barcelona pay through the roof for Coutinho, and everyone goes home happy.

30 Aug 2017 08:46:05
Agree Indian Buzzer.

30 Aug 2017 08:50:36
Agreed, IB. The whole Ox thing is just a waste of time. We need players like Lemar and VVD (not a big fan but it is who JK wants) to bolster the squad right now.

30 Aug 2017 05:39:42
Sometimes this versatility becomes your own enemy. Players like Hendo, AOX etc are so versatile that they end up playing everywhere and not one position which put them in the " Utility bracket " or " Jack of all trades and spade of none "
No wonder England couldn't produce a Scholes in ages!

30 Aug 2017 07:23:14
Yes but its about certain players who fit into klopps system an he likes players with pace power, an ox has loads of that again I said players come too liverpool an reach higher levels if we do get him let's trust jurgen, b nice to get him an lemar.

30 Aug 2017 07:35:51
" Jack of all trades and spade of none "

😁 I don't get it.

30 Aug 2017 07:48:37
"Jack of all trades spade of none" 😂😂 brilliant but don't you mean master of none Harry?

30 Aug 2017 07:57:51
I honestly don't get this utility tag that he has. He's not at all capable of playing centrally, he's a very poor right back or right wing back and an average winger. It's hardly like he's the second coming of Steve Nicol who could actually play three or four positions excellently.

30 Aug 2017 09:05:28
Hailstones, you are gravely mistaken. Klopp may like players with pace and power BUT more importantly, he likes players with a good footballing brain. Do not be fooled. The way we play is quite complicated and very detailed tactically and not just any player can play in it. I did not say that, Studge said so in an interview he gave last season.

Why do you think players like Ibe, Benteke, Balotelli, Sahko, are no longer here and smart players like Firmino, Lallana, Can, Cou, Lucas and Studge remained after the 15/ 16 season? They are gone cos they can't hack it on a football intelligence level while the rest stayed for obvious reasons.

30 Aug 2017 04:59:48
Ed01 sorry but is anything happening? does it look like we will sign lemar? or vvd?

{Ed001's Note - I still have faith in the club to push some deals through mate, though I don't know why as thay have let me down so many times before!}

30 Aug 2017 05:31:24
Thats why im scared😅😅without them if cou leaves until lallana comes midfield will be bare tho i don't want us to sign some1 for 1 2 3 mnths thag dsnt make sense this is liverpool we r talkin bout so we mit stl miss the targets😭😭😭.

30 Aug 2017 06:15:11
It is good to see that we are aiming for players who can improve our first team. Even though we may not be able to get those still better than waste money on balotelli.

30 Aug 2017 01:25:12
AOC turns down Chelsea apparently. Is there anything to read into this (i. e. Giving up on Lemar and now looking to AIC)?

30 Aug 2017 05:18:18
OX doesn't want to be another Mosses! He wants to be a Steven Gerrard lol!

30 Aug 2017 00:53:01
Ox has refused chavski! He's got his heart set on Liverpool! Don't blame him after seeing em so close up Sunday!

30 Aug 2017 00:26:51
So much for a new center half today then hey 🤔 As for all these imaginary medicals! 😂😂😂 I think we are done!

30 Aug 2017 07:08:06
Why bring it up as a stick to beat people with? So what. how do you know it just hasn't been announced as they finalise the deal. Or maybe it won't happen. that's what can happen in football. does every year. Yet the idiots keep slating people for passing on what they hear or have been told by genuine sources.
I don't see the editors making a page for all your enlightening posts.

29 Aug 2017 21:07:49
ed001 sorry for seeing stupid but a bit confused on the Naby Keita transfer. He has meant to have a medical etc but what happens next year if he is not as fit as this medical he has just had. What happens if he has another one and there is an issue. Sorry but seems seems strange to pay so much and there could be an issue in future.

{Ed001's Note - he did not have a medical, he will have one next year, that was incorrect. It is the same deal we used to sign Djibril Cisse.}

30 Aug 2017 07:36:05
Hope he turns out better than Djibril 'Close My Eyes And Shoot As Hard as I Can' Cisse.

{Ed001's Note - Cisse was starting to look good before his broken leg. There was a hell of a lot more to him than you suggest.}

30 Aug 2017 08:59:52
He was a sensation before he came to us, Ed, and I thought we had snagged a world class player. He tried hard and Got in goalscoring positions but I remember countless opportunities that ended up in Row Z because he seemed to lack composure. Not a bad striker by any means but could have been more clinical imo.

{Ed001's Note - he took a while to settle in mate, it was difficult for him as Ged signed him then left, so he was with a manager that had never intended to buy him. What Djibs needed was an arm around his shoulder from Rafa, but that was not his style, that was all left to Pako to do. Once Djibs realised how it was and that Rafa was just Rafa and wasn't picking at his game to bring him down but just to make him better, he found his feet and really came on in leaps and bounds. It did take a while like. He was a bit batty Djibs and struggled to fit in right away. All show and front about being full of himself, but behind the scenes he was one of those who needed a lot of reassurance.}