Liverpool Banter Archive October 02 2010
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02 Oct 2010 23:39:43
He left us worse than how he found us, simplesss!
Cheers,
Irish Kev
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Bull* *t
Rafa brought us Pepe Reina the best goalkeeper in the world, turned Jamie Carragher into one of the best centre halfs in the world, turned Steven Gerrard into the best centre midfield in the world, brought us Fernando Torres, Luis Garcia, Xabi Alonso, Daniel Agger, Dirk Kuyt etc. Our youth system is ten times stronger. He won the European Cup and the FA Cup. He came that close to winning the Holy Grail two seasons ago that many Man Utd fans thought we should have won it. Yes he made some mistakes and last season was a disaster but I don't agree that he left us worse than he found us. Just rubbish!
Fabian Treezle {ed's note - he did not turn Gerrard into the best midfielder in the world - Gerrard, if anything, has gone backwards under Rafa's stewardship. No longer is he taking games by the scruff of the neck like he did in the past. Rafa got him to slow down and take it easier and play at 60% for an entire match, instead of 100% for 80min then tiring towards the end. I don't see how any sane person can say Gerrard is a better player for this. He has certainly not been the Gerrard that won games singlehandedly for two seasons now. Rafa inherited the best midfielder in the world, not created.}
02 Oct 2010 23:10:50
Now that jumped up tottenham fan has something to say on the matter, i didn't see him do anything special with tottenham. sugra should stick to making tv shows that cater to his over grown ego.
02 Oct 2010 23:08:27
Andy.m why don't the club listen to the fans who wotch these players. the fans could rate the players better than manager does. We see it all and with the internet. why can't the fans have a voice inside the club.
02 Oct 2010 23:08:24
Ed, do you agree that the sunday game is the time to give our promising youth some playing time, or starts?
Reina
Kelly(if fit) Carragher Kyrgiakos Wilson
Gerrard Meireles
Cole
Kuyt Torres Pacheco
Substitute appearances for Shelvey, Amoo and N'Gog.
We need to attack Blackpool's vulnerable defense. I'm sure a 3-man forward attack of Kuyt, Torres and Pacheco would cause lots of problems. Not to mention Cole in a central attacking midfield position. Gerrard and Meireles will make forward runs when necessary. Kelly is a more solid right back than Johnson. Carragher, Kyrgiakos and Wilson should not have any problems. If they do, I'm going to be really mad.
{Editor's note - I think this weekend would be a perfect time to test the youth for Liverpool}
02 Oct 2010 22:59:42
Ober 3, 2010
By Sunday Express Reporter
LIVERPOOL Football Club's American owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett will default on the £237 million-plus of loans they used to buy the club, former government business adviser Lord Sugar predicts.
The deadline for Hicks and Gillett to refinance the £237.4 million Royal Bank of Scotland loan they used to acquire Liverpool expires on October 15. The duo also owe £60 million to the US bank Wachovia.
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Hicks and Gillett are understood to be struggling to refinance their loans. If they fail to do so RBS will take control of the club and is prepared to force through a fire-sale of the club.
Former Tottenham Hotspur owner Lord Sugar believes Hicks and Gillett will not be able to refinance their loans, which are secured against the club which is struggling both on and off the pitch.
"What a great institution Liverpool is, what a great football club, but my forecast is that the owners will default on their loans, " Lord Sugar told ESPNsoccernet.
Lord Sugar also warned that unless Liverpool's finances are sorted out quickly it could suffer the same fate as Leeds, which wound up in football's third tier due to its unsustainable debts.
"It would be a travesty if Liverpool slipped away like Leeds and ended up in the second division, " he said. "That will happen if they are not careful."
MAYBE SIR ALAN SUGAR HAS A SOFT SPOT FOR LIVERPOOL AND MIGHT MAKE A BID HIMSELF
02 Oct 2010 22:54:04
Rumour or not we all no rafa had probably taken liverpool as far as he could .
we allso know roy hodgson will allmost with out a doubt not be are manager next year
liverpool football club will be sold this year but probably no big pile in of signings till next summer at earliest
possably 1 big one as welcome present from new owners.
liverpool football club needs a complete shift around of playing staff which i think will need to happen over a couple of seasons so the likes of carragher and gerrard might not be around when the glory days return.
my squad views along with ins and outs
KEEPERS
area we don't need to change REINA is one of the best around JONES is stable and GULACSI and BOUZANIS both look good future prospects
FULLBACKS
JOHNSON is not the best defencively but is not englands number 2 for nothing best rightside attacking full back in premiership just needs time to build on defencive dutys and MARTIN KELLY is a real diamond seen him play lots will be a liverpool and england player for a long time
leftback more of problem its not AGGERS position and koncheskey is good for cover only ROBINSON and MAVINGA both look good but would love a bid for GARETH BALE at spurs if the cash arrives.
AURELLIO will be gone next summer.
CENTRE OF DEFENCE
CARRAGHER im sad to say is loseing touch in premiership and a new manager will have to make a decision to drop him soon AGGER is class but SKRTEL and KYRIAGOS are not liverpool quality WILSON KELLY and AYALA as well as future stars COADY and WISDOM should be joined by a move for GARY CAHILL.
in the centre GERRARD MEIRELES and SHELVEY all give us good attacking options from midfield but in POULSON and LUCAS we lack somebody to control the midfield SPEARING is a good backup player that will give 100% but will like to see SCOTT PARKER along side stevie g next season.
WIDE AREAS
JOE COLE can play along the front and in GERARDO BRUNA , DAVID AMOO, THOMAS INCE, SUSO FERNANDEZ, TONI SILVA and RAHEEM STERLING we have a load of quality comeing through i personely will like moves for ADAM JOHNSON, JUAN MATA and ASHLEY YOUNG with JOVANAVIC, BABEL, KUYT and RODRIGUEZ being farmed out.
FORWARDS
TORRES best in world and in NGOG, PACHECO NGOO and ECCLESTONE good youngsters comeing forward but we need to buy CONNOR WICKHAM is going to be a masive player and we should get him now allso fill ANDY CARROLL will be a future england striker either will be good back up to torres and if the cash is there get EDIN DZENKO to play now in a new 4.4.2. formation
allways welcome feedback
andy.m
02 Oct 2010 22:50:37
Gutted we missed out on Rafael van der Vaart. Look what he is doing in spurs right now. Ed, do you agree?
{Editor's note - He is looking like bargain of the season so far}
02 Oct 2010 22:49:51
Guys please calm down about Edin Dzeko, remember it was me that posted this rumour ages ago, I have some friends in Spain well connected with Real Madrid, they where the ones that told me about Higuain last December, which we nearly got and they where the ones who told me about Edin.
I chatting with them on Facebook about Masch being poached from us by Barca and they told me cheer up at least you're getting Dzeko. I posted on here this rumour last Spring/ Summer time maybe if the Eds are not too busy they can re print it? Any way it dosen't matter, the point is the British media got the wrong end of the stick and thought we where going after Gomes, we weren't it was Dzeko.
The Metro obviously have just picked this up from one of our scouts, probably, that we where after him last summer and thought that we would go after him in January? His buy out clause is for £36m and Wolfsburg who are a very rich club don't need the money and will not sell for less.
To tell you the truth I think he is the best striker in world football today, his goal ratio is unparalleled and if he was to join us then we would have the best strike force in world football. For £36m it would be a bargain, compare that to Ronaldo's £80m for instance, I would have Dzeko over Ronaldo any day of the week but sadly I am a depressed Lfc fan like many others and I just don't feel that we are lucky enough to get players of his quality :0(
Tobey
02 Oct 2010 22:49:31
Team captins dressing room speech:
Steven Gerrard:
Sons of liverpool!. . I am Steven Gerrard!
PLAYERS:
Steven Gerrard is seven feet tall!
Steven Gerrard:
Yes, I have heard! He kills men by
the hundreds! And if he were here,
he would consume the English with
fireballs from his eyes, and bolts
of lightning from his ass!
Many laugh - all get the point.
Steven Gerrard:
I am Steven Gerrard. And my enemies
do not go away. I saw us lose at city. My wife shagged by terry. . I am Steven Gerrard. And I see a whole army of my countrymen, here in defiance of
tyranny. You have come to fight as
free men. And free men you are! What
will you do with freedom? Will you
fight?
Torres
11 vs 11? We will
run - and live another day!
Steven Gerrard
Yes. Fight and you may die. Run and
you will live, at least for awhile. And
dying in your bed many years from
now, would you be willing to trade
all the days from this day to that,
for one chance to come back here as
young men, and tell our enemies that
they make take our lives,
BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!
02 Oct 2010 22:16:54
I agree with irish kev. Watching liverpoot at anfield against any team used to send shivers down my spine just watching it on the telly! I wish i could make it to a game but i cant. So to everyone lucky enough to go if you read this, make some noise for God's sake! I want our 12th man back, or as i call it the 45 000-man vuvuzela:-).
Red bl00ded!Lets hope some more on here going tomorrow will agree with us too eh & spread the word tomorrow that the team needs the fans right now!
Lets turn tomorrows game into a Champions League like atmosphere & make the Blackpool fans know in no uncertain terms who we are & why we're so great, make em jealous!
Even if we go 1 nil down, stay behind the team.
We have to believe in them before they believe in us again (the players i mean) in my opinion.
We're not in the big one this season (Champs Lg) so come on you reds and make tomorrows atmosphere special! I'm begging you, please! YNWA & all that eh?!
And take no notice of the negative idiots on here (Bitters & Scum fans). They're envious of us no matter what they try to say (mainly cause of our success' in the past but also cause our home fans create the best atmosphere that they can only dream of, so come on & lets make them jealous again).
PLEEEEEEEASE! ! !
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
02 Oct 2010 22:00:18
I agree with irish kev. Watching liverpoot at anfield against any team used to send shivers down my spine just watching it on the telly! I wish i could make it to a game but i cant. So to everyone lucky enough to go if you read this, make some noise for God's sake! I want our 12th man back, or as i call it the 45 000-man vuvuzela:-).
Red bl00ded!
02 Oct 2010 21:48:15
02 Oct 2010 10:43:58
Hows this look for a team
reina gk
johnson rb
raul abiol cb
vermealan cb
asso-ekotto lb
meirles cdm
hazard rm
elia lm
gerrard am
torres
lazezzi
just won the league on fifa 11 with this RH take note and when the new owners come in get the cheque book out
I won the league on FIFA 10 with bolton:
Jaaskelinen
Hunt
Cahill
Knight
Steinsson
Taylor
Cohen
Davis
Gardner
Riga
Elmander
That is fantasy, this is real
02 Oct 2010 21:47:38
All those times people complained about Rafa and being out of the title race by October. Now it's October and we are in the relegation zone.
All those who contributed to Rafa's exit, I hope you are satisfied now.
I never welcomed the appointment of RH - nice guy, not good enough for our great club. I for one would welcome Rafa back with open arms.
Fabian TreezleErm, Its mainly because of your Rafa that we find ourselves where we are.
I'm not gonna justify that statement again as i did before on here.
Rafa bought very poorly etc etc.
Now get over it & look to the future, not back!
Agent Rafa is gone back to Old Trafford for now but if you believe tomorrows back pages he may well return to take us back down after we recover from his current mess he helped get us into.
We were a Champions League team when he arrived.
We scraped 7th place when he left, hold on there while i run back to a man who made us worse begging him to return :). . . . .NOT! ! !
You must be kidding!
The league table (at the end of a season doesn't lie).
He left us worse than how he found us, simplesss!
Cheers,
Irish Kev
02 Oct 2010 21:28:27
All those times people complained about Rafa and being out of the title race by October. Now it's October and we are in the relegation zone.
All those who contributed to Rafa's exit, I hope you are satisfied now.
I never welcomed the appointment of RH - nice guy, not good enough for our great club. I for one would welcome Rafa back with open arms.
Fabian Treezle
02 Oct 2010 21:14:44
Ah Ed, i requested my last statement to go to the rumour page but you put it on the banter page?
Now i do know its not a rumour but i wanted to see how many would agree / disagree hence why i picked the rumour page option? ?! !
Why is the option there if the request is not followed?? ?
Irish Kev {ed's note - because everyone uses the rumour form, almost without exception, for everything they send in, the editors have full discretion over where posts are placed. You can gauge reaction just as accurately by the replies your post gets anyway.}
02 Oct 2010 21:09:08
Edin Dzeko being touted as a liverpool target on the liverpool website means absolutely nothing. Throughout pre-season we must have been linked with almost every registered player in europe bar one, and the one that wasn't mentioned was the only one we signed (meireles).
I would love to see Dzeko at Anfield though, he'd compliment Torres perfectly. Also, would love to see us sign Matt Jarvis, a star in the making
02 Oct 2010 21:08:32
It's home from home for Roy! !
We are in a position that Roy likes to do his best work in the drop zone.
We have turned into a Fulham
Dare I say it again if and a big if we lose tomorrow we should stick Roys name alongside Hicks and Gillet on the banners! !
I never thought I would see this day when in the third month of the season we would be in a relegation place?
02 Oct 2010 21:07:34
To all those slagging off Lee's post, instead of saying he's full of beans, why don't we take what he's said and wait till next week before we through him to the lions?. I gotta admit it's one of the most believable posts I have read in a while. I think we all know news is fast approaching so how about we stick together as Liverpool fans and concentrate on slagging off the yanks rather than each other?. To the ed, why don't you think mata joining in jan is unlikely?. I can see it happening. Top site by the way, it's the man.
The Roachmiester
02 Oct 2010 20:54:55
Whoever reads this and is going to the match tomorrow, will you please take your fingers out and for once sing yer hearts out.
If you want Torres & co. to give a sh*t, try giving a sh*t yerselves!
If the fans are quiet tomorrow and we don't get a good result, don't even think of coming on here and whining about Torres not scoring, Hodgson picking the wrong players etc etc.
Show some passion tomorrow for once!
We could be in big sh*t if we don't win tomorrow and i for one will mostly blame the fans for hiding, not the players, management, or the h*cking owners!
Wheres your passion LFC "fans".
If, and its a big IF we go down or have a long fight against relegation - we the fans can spur the players on if we cheer them on in a positive way.
Dont keep passing the buck, bot*hing on here about this and that.
YOU are at fault too.
YOU helped make us great, now we need YOU the fans once more to stand up & be counted!
Lots of great players have come here cause they have heard about how great Liverpool fans are (were). The current players must be asking what the fuss is all about as i haven't heard sh*t outta The Kop in ages!
Get back in the groove now guys before its too late & YOU can only blame YOURSELVES! ! ! ! ! !
Cheers,
Irish Kev.
02 Oct 2010 19:48:33
Everton are out of the drop zone and your right in it. lol
Look forward to everton vs liverpool. the big show down
02 Oct 2010 19:40:40
Liverpoolfc
Period Spending Income Expenditure
Summe £25.025 million £34.35 million £9.325 million
£9.325 million on a (st) jan
02 Oct 2010 19:39:17
Don't think big Roy can afford anything less than a good three points tomorrow. But if we manage it don't get carried away because we would only won two games both promoted from championship . I don't think Roy is a good enough manager for us , and don't believe take over gossip is right were in the s* t and it's getting deeper, very sad mr shankley will be turning in his grave. psv elnino
02 Oct 2010 19:38:20
RE:Blair Mayne YNWA
Thank you for your gracious and constructive comments now please f*ck off.
Looks like Blair Mayne / Big Dunc wants rid of everyone else
02 Oct 2010 19:36:21
Wow, 18th in the league. Not to worry, after our 5-1 win tomorrow we'll be 10th! Yay!
Red bl00ded!
02 Oct 2010 19:18:54
"They are not bleeding us dry"
Are you serious? You know they are, and the Glazers would not sell United for less than a Billion. A billion! And you come on here saying our club is in trouble?
We could have our debt cleared in the next six months, by the time the Glazers loans' come to a head in 2016 - I think it is - can you imagine how big the MUFC debt will be by then? At least our clowns have only until mid october.
MUFC managed well my arse - and Fergie to go in the next two years, if that, soon to be followed by Giggs, Scholes. People in Glass houses, and all that.
02 Oct 2010 19:06:23
"Gonig down going down going down liverpol going down looking forward to it ha ha ha hahha ha ha"
If you don't mind, I not GONIG to take anything you write seriously. LFC will not be GONIG down this year or any other year you R.E.T.A.R.D.
COUNT THE GAMES PLAYED THIS SEASON - ASK A FRIEND IF TOO DIFFICULT - 6.
02 Oct 2010 19:04:41
RE:Blair Mayne YNWA
Don't you get it? Eventually H&G will have to sell LFC because they can't afford us as we are losing money.
As you pointed out MAN'URE has the capacity to make money with the Stadium etc. That is why the Glazers will never i repeat never sell MAN'URE.
And i think the big spending at MAN'URE is finished just like the club will be.
Thank you for your gracious and constructive comments now please f*ck off.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Well you missed my point, about man u never going into administration because they are so well managed. Where as liverpool are hoping that fait will save them from death. Although both sets of americans are leechin from the clubs, our leeches will last forever like man u will last forever. They are not bleeding us dry, such sucking a half a pint or so and i don't care for your use of language big dunc
02 Oct 2010 18:57:13
Blackpool.
what do you guys think will happen at blackpool tomorrow. Now both sides have a slow back line, but roy will settle for nile, nile tomorrow.
So i expect it to finish a draw because liverpool play so defensive and would be scared of the blackpool team. Liverpool may get lucky again and get a freak goal some how, but goals are a real problem at the moment. can't see one man saving us this time. blackpool will be too much for liverpool tomorrow and im hoping they don't score aload because of carra.
02 Oct 2010 18:42:56
Im not i am telling fact trust me! i love liverpool and would not make up sh*t. . please just believe this. . you would believe it if all the Di* heads who make up all SH*T on this have surely wrecked it and there is no belief on this page because of them. i am telling the truth and you WILL be proved wrong. . i will write the day next week when it happens to prove everyone that i don't tell BU*LSH*T my name is lee expect me to write back next week
02 Oct 2010 18:41:57
"
Ha ha ha bale to the bindippers stick to your major signings like konchesky lol gareth bale you lot really are dreamers"
Reading this I'm sitting here with a smile on my face. . despite all the problems Liverpool are having, Spurs are about to come face to face with the reality that they aren't good enough to compete in Europe and stay in the top 4. Back to where you belong, my good fellow!
02 Oct 2010 18:32:54
Gonig down going down going down liverpol going down looking forward to it ha ha ha hahha ha ha
02 Oct 2010 18:30:59
This is what I would do in january. I know some might not care but I thought this was a decent idea.
We have 5 million left from summer.
Out-Babel 9 million
Kuyt 10 million
Lucas 7 million
Rodriguez 5 million
Total=31 million
31 + 5 = 36 million.
In-N'zogbia 9.5 million (wants to move to bigger club)
C.Cole 10 million (was on transfer list for west ham in summer)
Turan 15 million (supports lfc and is world class player)
Total= 34.5 million
Team sheet
Renia
Johnson Skrtel Agger Konchesky
Gerrard. Meireles
N'zogbia J.Cole Turan
Torres Total=
02 Oct 2010 17:59:44
If Jovanovic is unsettled and wants to move because he misses Standard Leige then he should go. He has looked totally out of depth, particularly against ManCity.
I would think Jovanovic earns around £50k a week, so with signing on fees (say £2m) and wages(3 months so far but 6 months by January) I would think he has so far taken £3.2m from the club. Therefore any fee should be in the region of £3.2m plus 10% which equals £3.52m for a player who is approaching 30 years of age, but is the new Serbia captain, turned down Real Madrid and Inter in the past, but who obviously found 'his level' in the Belgian league. Pity because i had good expectations for Jovanovic at Liverpool. Maybe we could include him in another part exchange transfer (Defour/ Marin etc.).
02 Oct 2010 17:57:11
We're officially in relegation zone. Finally, the rockbottom is reached. Hopefully, from now on, it's going to be upwards and all the way towards the top 4.
RHI
02 Oct 2010 17:45:00
All im going to say is lfc is empty vessel.
What do u expect from them now. no heart, spirit or understanding of liverpool way.
02 Oct 2010 17:28:56
Whats the point of lfc .....
{Editor's Note: I am curtailing the posts with racist remarks and rants about immigration.}
02 Oct 2010 17:16:24
Personally I think things can't get any worse than they are now. I mean, I'm usually a very positive fan but Torres isn't performing and will in all probablility be gone by the summer, Gerrard looks like he's getting more and more frustrated and as long as we have those donkeys Poulsen and Lucas being played regularly we'll never get back into the top four.
Everyone seems to be fretting over a lack of strikers, I think we need more width - we can get a striker, but a winger should be first priority or Kelly should be given a chance at RB and Johnson (our only good, consistent crosser) pushed forward.
We already have 4 strikers who are being deployed unnaturally as wingers - Pacheco, Kuyt, Jovanovic, Babel.
I think our best formation at the moment is as follows:
- - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - -
Konchesky- -Carragher- -Agger- -Kelly
- - - - - - - Poulsen (sigh)- - - - - -
- - - - - - -Gerrard/ Meireles- - - - -
Jovanovic- - -Meireles/ Gerrard- - - Cole
- - - - - - - - Torres- - - - - - - - -
Subs: Babel, Pacheco/ Kuyt, Skrtel, Jones, Lucas
02 Oct 2010 17:05:32
02 Oct 2010 16:57:48
To the vegetable who said this -
>>Did u know americans are the biggest number
>>immigrantsi nto this country, The white devils
>>walk amoung us, yet people are farfull of brown >>skin.
Rubbish. There are more immigrants from India, Poland, Republic of Ireland, Pakistan, Germany, Bangladesh and South Africa than from America. You should take your racist slander somewhere else.
>>but their are more white skins immigration into
>>this country than people realise, they blame
>>people with brown skin for resources being taken
>>up by brown skin. But that is wrong, white skin
>>immigration is bleeding this country dry. The stat
>>about americans was related to banking, when all
>>these american banks set up in uk they imported
>>americans.
Absolute nonsense - you have no idea what you are talking about. I think your racist rant is to do with the Liverpool owners - we all want them out, but you are just spouting rubbish.
>>it is not racist, because the epl is a reflection of
>>the state of this country. You people just keep
>>importanting talent and nothing will be left of this
>>country. while kids walk the street without a jobs
>>net immagration is still very high. Times have to
>>change, because our resources can not support
>>the rest of europe.
Rivers of blood then?
>>LFC should invest in kids.
Wilson and Shelvey arrived this summer - two great investments in kids.
02 Oct 2010 17:05:10
Roy Hodgson> players
If you lfc fans think you can do better, come and knock on the managers door. Your all welcome. If not, then leave roy alone to work.
02 Oct 2010 16:59:18
Reina
kelly.skrtel.agger.konchesky
amoo. gerrard. meireles. cole
kuyt. torres
02 Oct 2010 16:59:04
RH wake now and smell the coffee its official we are in a relegation fight. Stop saying negative things about taking time etc we need some positive talk as the players are been giving excuses by you. This is a shambles - I would take 7th now.
Following the file by Mike Jefferies can he make another one asking Roy to resign before its too late. He's not capable of picking a positive side
02 Oct 2010 16:57:48
To the vegetable who said this -
Did u know americans are the biggest number immigrantsi nto this country, The white devils walk amoung us, yet people are farfull of brown skin.
Rubbish. There are more immigrants from India, Poland, Republic of Ireland, Pakistan, Germany, Bangladesh and South Africa than from America. You should take your racist slander somewhere else.
but their are more white skins immigration into this country than people realise, they blame people with brown skin for resources being taken up by brown skin. But that is wrong, white skin immigration is bleeding this country dry. The stat about americans was related to banking, when all these american banks set up in uk they imported americans.
it is not racist, because the epl is a reflection of the state of this country. You people just keep importanting talent and nothing will be left of this country. while kids walk the street without a jobs net immagration is still very high. Times have to change, because our resources can not support the rest of europe. LFC should invest in kids.
02 Oct 2010 16:29:42
Jovanovic has been poor so far, there's no questioning that. But, just like so many of our other players/ ex-players, he is being deployed in an unnatural position. I don't think we should judge him until he's played as an out an out striker.
Think of the players we've got that are played out of their natural postion; Babel, Kuyt, Meireles (Last game, he's not a right winger, Roy!) Aquilani, Agger, Pacheco. . the list goes on.
Any views Editor? {ed's note - Jovanovic has played as a left winger many times, he usually operates from the left for his country.}
02 Oct 2010 16:15:19
To the vegetable who said this -
Did u know americans are the biggest number immigrantsi nto this country, The white devils walk amoung us, yet people are farfull of brown skin. When i talk about likes of jovanovic who bleed this country dry and get accept because of their white skin.
Rubbish. There are more immigrants from India, Poland, Republic of Ireland, Pakistan, Germany, Bangladesh and South Africa than from America. You should take your racist slander somewhere else.
02 Oct 2010 15:47:13
Hey if Gk Reina, Cb skrtel, Cb Agger, Cm Lucas, Cm mereiles, St Torres all want to go back home, then we should let them. we made a mistake buying so many of eupean players. no heart or soul left of the english man.
The english game use to be about fast pace and good tackling. Then foriegn invasion bought better skills, flair and in the middle of 90's the balance was right. no the balance has gone, the football is dule, italian like. players wait and bore each other to death with nile, niles.
The club should make a change and start buying in english people. I'v wotched this country change under a labour goverment for the worst. The same time period as the EPL life. Our country is like EPL we keep importing foreign player/ people to do english jobs. We pay them more because they acheive, but we lose our own skills. Look at the national side poor showing.
We see alots of kids in the street that don't have jobs. Americans own our businesses and banks. i remember when i went to school I wanted to be a footballer, but these days kids go to school and the best they hope for is to become a ref because they know you have to have forigen name to get a start EPL, look at kelly being held back
Did u know americans are the biggest number immigrantsi nto this country, The white devils walk amoung us, yet people are farfull of brown skin. When i talk about likes of jovanovic who bleed this country dry and get accept because of their white skin. They are over sex, over paid and over here look at tom hicks, poor greedy white american.
Also i was dissapointed to see kasper schmeichel not to consider himself english and never play for england. this 20 year run of foreign talent has not intergrated into england. These and their childern consider themselves polish, french, italians who happen to come here to make big-money. the childern don't intergrate. We Dont see young cantina's. So what is the point in fueling this foriegn army of players with english money.
02 Oct 2010 15:44:52
Sven goran eriksson should have got the managers job in the first place! !
02 Oct 2010 14:44:04
Liverpool should hi-jack leicester deal for sven goran eriksson and have him as joint manager with Roy.
02 Oct 2010 14:42:13
Javanovic a disgrace. to com out an say he wants to leave cause he isint in team an he misses living in belgium. i don't people unhappy wen not playin he should work harder cause hes another voranin a waste of space an not worthy to wear the jersey theres a few more like this at club. let him go in january end of story. an we need to more positive on the field just go for it from the first minute an play a consistent team for 5 or six games running big big game tommorow a must win game or knives wil b out for hodgson. performances need to improve players need to get there fingers out an hav a look in the mirror at themselves fact.
02 Oct 2010 14:30:04
I saw the guy that posted about his FIFA 11 dream team and I thought I would post mine because it is somewhat more realistic with just one new player. Mata on the left makes all the difference.
Gk Reina
RB Johnson
Cb skrtel
Cb Agger
Lb konchesky (plan to replace in the summer)
Cm Lucas
Cm mereiles
Ram Cole
Cam Gerrard
Lw Mata
St Torres
This team could be possible in real life to with just one January purpose. And there is so much more depth in the squad then with jova and kuyt on the bench. Take note roy
The Anfield Rapstar
02 Oct 2010 14:14:12
Tbh ed i don't particularly rate young either, i think when the going gets tough he shy's away but i suppose is isn't a physical sort of player anyway. its just alot of people on here are singing his praises so maybe theres something im missing. he is better than maxi though lol
always a red
{Editor's Note: Even as a makeshift solution Maxi was a poor signing in my view. He moved on a free and we may well be able to get a few million for him when he leaves.}
02 Oct 2010 13:35:58
Jovanovic wants to leave, too. Whats happening at the club? Ed, any latest regarding takeover. .
{Editor's note - I will ask the main Ed when he gets back online today}
02 Oct 2010 13:25:03
We need a winger that gives us width, pace, consistancy, scores goals, can play on either flank and preferibly english. There is only one answer 'ASHLEY YOUNG' .
Lets hope he doesn't sign a new contract too soon!
Would cost 18-20mill
anyone agree. If new owners gives us money hes a possibillity
Harry5
02 Oct 2010 13:18:56
L.F.C will not be taken over by anyone with a major amount of money. . we are all living in dreamland. going on about players who will be coming to us in January. . not going to happen. players nowadays are mercanaries and only interested in how much money they can earn. .
Can someone please tell me why every manager we have plays negative football? Roy's team at Fulham played a more positive attacking game, now at Liverpool that's changed. . Houllier played negative at Anfield, now seems to play a positive style at Villa. . Benitez. . very negative style at Anfield, then changed his style to attacking and we came second in the Prem, then went back to a negative way and came 7th. . now playing a more positive style at Inter. . is this just a Liverpool way? ?
we all live in dream world. Torres made promises yet again by the board. . can't blame the lad if he goes this year. .
02 Oct 2010 13:06:50
I am really nervous this weekend. I have followed Liverpool since the age of 12 and for the first time, i realize we could be in the relegation zone if 2 out of Wigan, West Ham and Everton won. It is this thought which is making me lose faith in RH slowly. I understand CARRA backing RH and making statements of comparison with RAFA's first year but please I can not see this happening.
It is getting scary now with the takeover lingering on forever now and I hope someone can give me some good news (especially the ED) on takeover.
Come on u Reds.
PS - I am not a season ticket holder or from Liverpool but I am as big a Red as u r.
{Editor's Note: You just got to keep behind the team - the players and the manager.}
02 Oct 2010 12:10:56
We need a win tmoz and im confident we will get 1
come on liverpool!
reina
johnson
skrtel
caara
kelly
kuyt
gerrard
meireles
cole
torres
ngog
02 Oct 2010 11:50:37
Can you believe these foreign numpties. Just a couple of weeks ago Jovanavic was telling us he was going to be the next saviour to our club and the next he is complaining that he is missing his previous club and is unhappy that he has been dropped. If he just comes out from up his own ars* then he will realise he has played crap since he has been here. If I were Hodgson I would pay for his plane ticket and send him back so we can buy someone who wants to fight for the club. Forign Numpties, what do you think ED
Evered {ed's note - nothing to do with them being foreign, Owen was the world's biggest whiner when he wasn't in the team. I have no problem with a player being upset when they aren't being picked, but they should be working hard on the training ground to get back in the team not whining in the press. Jovanovic has been terrible since he got here, he should be looking at his performances and staying behind after training to improve. If he isn't prepared to do that than I agree, get rid.}
02 Oct 2010 10:43:58
Hows this look for a team
reina gk
johnson rb
raul abiol cb
vermealan cb
asso-ekotto lb
meirles cdm
hazard rm
elia lm
gerrard am
torres
lazezzi
just won the league on fifa 11 with this RH take note and when the new owners come in get the cheque book out
02 Oct 2010 08:53:29
01 Oct 2010 21:35:36
Fernando Torres could leave Liverpool this season. If he goes, Man city will be favourites the sign him. A player plus cash offer could happen here, with pool getting 50 million plus SWP.
If a Torres sale should happen, Liverpool will sign Gomez and Ashley young. Young will be new left winger and Babel will go to Villa.
Team line up
- - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - -
-Johnson- Cahill- Agger- Konchesky-
- SWP- -Gerrard- -Meireles- -Young-
- - - - - Torres- - - Gomez- - - - -
thought you said deals for s.w.p.young and gomez will only happen if torres sold so why is he still in your line up if you have sold him ?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I will never understand some Liverpool fans with their view that Wright Phillips is the answer to our right sided problems. He is a solid premier league player but has reached his level. The top Liverpool sides never had quick wizard wingers and right sided players e.g Case, Lee, Johnstone, Mcdermott etc. just good passing players who played for the team.
02 Oct 2010 08:21:35
Jovanavic says he's offBYE THEN
02 Oct 2010 08:15:36
I do not believe Owen will return to LFC and I certainly hope SWP is not signed.Neither of these would represent a step forward.
Cahill would be useful though.
CR
02 Oct 2010 00:01:10
GIVE MAVINGA A CHANCE
01 Oct 2010 23:55:52
I strongly believe d takeover ll happen and wit it a lot of things ll change, i'm sory 4hodgson cos he's not helpin matters wit d teams performance and result.In january ll sell all other players except gerrard, el-nino, kuyt, reina, cole, agger, kelly, mereiles, johnson, ngog, pacheco and all d young players.In january we'l buy DEFENDERS;cahil, shawcross/ hangland, bale. MIDFIEDERS;Honda, banega, diarra/ defour. WINGERS;lennon, ashley young/ odewingie(we must get dis 3 at least) or swp/ marin(little messi). STRIKERS;llorente, bent, gomez.
If we can manage 2b 5points behind d league leader b4 january, wit dis new comin in january if we don't win d league we'l b 2nd.
Against blackpool i advise roy 2play 4-4-2; GK REINA, CB JC and SKRTEL, RB JOHNSON, LB KELLY/ MAVINGA, CM GERRAD MEREILES, RW KUYT, LW COLE FW TORRES, NGOG.
Kenny.G(Nigeria)