Liverpool Banter Archive November 02 2016

 

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02 Nov 2016 23:16:11
Not really transfers per say. but with our current U23 CB's both needing to move on and are completely wasted in that team.

who would you like to see the step up into those positions?

Also very happy to see williams back tonight showing his potential after a nightmare year! do you see him potentially moving back into the CB position in the future?

Cheers!

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03 Nov 2016 01:34:06
Maguire has been converted from a left back into a centre back this last year. It has been a very successful switch as well. Brewitt is also highly thought of. Don't forget about Gomez though!

Aside from that we are a bit thin in terms of young talent for that position. Lloyd Jones has stagnated, Williams has had injuries, Wisdom has been well documented etc. I believe there are some talented defenders in the younger age groups but I only follow the u23's side now.


02 Nov 2016 21:26:27
Hi eds, I know you do not think Lovren is good enough for the current LFC team, but my question is, who would your choice be to replace him? Are there any adequate centre backs available currently? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - There are always centre backs available - but the decent ones come at a price.}

02 Nov 2016 23:33:57
Toby was the one we miss out on.


03 Nov 2016 02:36:26
Virgil Van Dijk, Sule and Rugani just to name a few.


03 Nov 2016 10:20:36
Entertain me for a minute, but I'd raid Spurs for Kevin Wimmer. Far too good to be playing second fiddle. Last season when Vertonghen was out Wimmer looked every bit as good as him.

Plus we need a left sided centre back if it is to replace Sakho/ Lovren. Matip has the right sided slot nailed down already. Wimmer just fits the bill for me. Prem experience, good on set pieces, comfortable on the ball so much so he can even play left back, only turns 24 in a couple of weeks etc. We always look to sign big name Charlie's for mega money but sometimes the guys stuck on the bench behind top quality players just need a chance to kick start their careers. See Coutinho, Can, Sturridge for evidence! 3 of our best players, all deemed surplus to requirements by Inter Milan, Bayern Munich and Chelsea/ Man City.

Don't knock Wimmer for being stuck behind the best centre back pairing in the Prem!

He'd be the man I'd look to anyway. Klopp might pluck another bargain out of the Bundesliga!


03 Nov 2016 10:51:27
MK

Wimmer is a decent choice, wouldn't cost ransom but it is still an expirement, He isn't a finished article and that is what I would prefer right now.
This club is just 2-3 players from total dominance in the league. let's bring some experience.


03 Nov 2016 12:05:22
2-3 players from total dominance 😎

Kovacic, Kante and a centre back then?

Personally I would not want to stunt the development of Gomez.


03 Nov 2016 12:23:22
Harry, Wimmer will be 24 by next summer. That is the same age as Lovren and Matip when they signed and older than Sakho.

Last season he played regularly for Spurs for about 3 months and it was one of their best spells of form in the entire season.

I get what you mean, but signing a 28 year old centre back to slot into the first team is just not going to happen in my opinion. It is not the way (historically) that Klopp operates. His major signings are almost exclusively under 25 years old. He has signed older players for cover (Klavan, Manninger) but all of his main signings are younger guys who aren't household names (Karius, Matip, Wijnaldum, Mane etc) . Check his transfer record at Dortmund and you'll see it is exactly the same. He likes working with younger players because his high octane style is not something not many players can adapt to later in their careers.

Wimmer is already a top defender, but one who still has plenty of potential and won't cost a bomb. In the modern market he will probably be circa £20m due to his long contract but that is pittance in football terms nowadays (sadly) .

I'm sure Klopp has an ace up his sleeve that nobody here has even considered but it is very clear to me that he will be investing into the defence. Matip and Karius are just the start. He has already removed Skrtel, Sakho, Toure and Mignolet and is phasing out Moreno as well.

I'm intrigued to see who he targets. Wimmer is merely my opinion, not an expectation. I think you will be disappointed if you are expecting a finished article in their late 20's or early 30's though.


03 Nov 2016 13:34:06
I get your point. I wouldn't gamble a player at the back. we have been doing this cat and mouse game long enough. Nothing against the player. I had a quick word with a source on his days at kLON. They all have beem positive except he hasn't featured at spurs who are playing Dier at CB.
I would look to Fonte ( don't shoot me down ) He is a leader and a top class defender to me.


{Ed001's Note - I actually agree with MKS on this one. And Wimmer played at the back alongside Dier, so no idea where you got it from that Dier played instead of him at the back.}

03 Nov 2016 13:47:45
I'll get the bubbly and cigars Ed! It's been a long wait! Haha.


{Ed001's Note - it wouldn't have been so long but I was out and editing on my phone initially so couldn't be bothered to type a reply to your OP, but I did think it was an excellent shout in terms of player quality. I am not so sure his price would be a good one though. Levy would ask the earth for us to buy a player from them.}

03 Nov 2016 14:10:25
Yeah I think if it was any other club we could nab him for about £15m but Spurs will probably want anything up to twice that amount! Levy is stubborn as well. He wouldn't back down!


03 Nov 2016 14:52:59
Van Dyke is not good enough, IMO. He only looks the part. Wimmer, I don`t know a lot about. Sule? He is a great choice. Watched him play at the Olympics with Germany and he has all the tools to be graet and for good measure, that German Olympic team of Sule, Brandt, Serger Gnabry, and Max Meyer amongst others looked superb.


03 Nov 2016 14:39:56
My bad on that Ed01. Lewy wouldn't sell him to us. Infact the top 6 doesn't exchange players.


02 Nov 2016 21:18:33
Just watching the Spuds game. I see N'Koudou found his way out of Alexander Arnold's pocket to make the game tonight!

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02 Nov 2016 20:52:12
Ed do you know if Klopp looking at Harry Wilson he plays for the u23s and look good.

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{Ed001's Note - Pepjin Linders is there to make sure that Klopp is kept informed of who is doing well in the youngsters and to help them get integrated in the first team. So yes, Klopp will be looking at him.}

03 Nov 2016 06:42:21
Klopp wasn't watching Emmerdale or the first half of the spuds game, he was at Prenton Park away from the cameras. He did watch Leverkusen take the p*** in the second half though.


02 Nov 2016 20:50:59
Just can't believe the shrewd man Lewvy splashed £30 mill on Sissokho.
I cannot think of another player worse than him in the league playing in the midfield.

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02 Nov 2016 21:10:29
Wasn't he seen as Gerrard's potential replacement back in the day?


{Ed001's Note - Commolli saw him as Gerrard's replacement.}

03 Nov 2016 01:39:56
Ed, just wow! That's how you know the rank incompetence that had infested this club with people like Comolli. The fact that he got signed by Spurs for a whopping 30m, a guy who can't score, can't tackle, lazy and awful shows why Pochettino still has a lot to lear to get to the next level . Gerard's replacement? He wouldn't even be a replacement for Jordan Ibe.


03 Nov 2016 06:17:11
I don't think poch had any say on this transfer. Credit to Rafa after all. Sold all three players for a massive profit.


03 Nov 2016 08:35:13
Yea think about it Sissoko and Kante for the same price. Who would you take? Kante has even started scoring now.


03 Nov 2016 15:55:06
Smart business from Rafa on that part.


02 Nov 2016 20:18:13
Hi eds,

I posted a loan update yesterday but I can't find it? Did it come through ok?

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{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen it myself.}

03 Nov 2016 01:22:06
Thanks ed. I typed it on my phone and I think for whatever reason it didn't send 😞.


{Ed001's Note - that happens a lot. If a connection drops mid-send, it just gets lost.}

02 Nov 2016 19:07:50
how many tickets are you giving us for 1/ 4 final chaps?

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03 Nov 2016 05:09:26
None. you can buy them like everyone else.


02 Nov 2016 19:07:50
how many tickets are you giving us for 1/ 4 final chaps?

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02 Nov 2016 18:16:33
Ok so i just read this nonsense from sterlings interview with 442.

“It was just about the players that were here, ” he said.

“I could name 10 or 11 who have played at the highest level - people like Sergio Aguero, David Silva, Yaya Toure.

“For me to develop my game I’ve got to be playing with the best and that’s why I came here. ”

So is he implying he did not develop at all over the years he was with us. I also have not seen any difference between the way he played with us to how he is playing now. Still hit and miss in front of goal and inconsistent in his performances for both club and country.

I know footballers are not famed for being candid but for once i would like one to just be honest and say he left for financial reasons. He left to get a hike in pay and a big payday and it also helped that his huge ego was being stroked by his muppet agent.

I would just love us to take the league this year, i would just love it. That is all sorry for the rant.

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02 Nov 2016 18:30:26
He is just saying what he is supposed to say. He's not going to go the press and say: I wanted a massive contract and chance to win a prem title immediately.

I was pretty gutted when he left and the way he went about it, but that is the nature of football nowadays.


02 Nov 2016 18:45:37
The club did not show no ambition when we sold Suarez and had cl . Yes he a greedy and what for money but we have to be real do we show ambition to win things before Klopp come in. The same thing may happen to coutinho will you call him ever name under the sun.


{Ed002's Note - The runt did not want to be at the club - and the club got a year longer than he wanted.}

02 Nov 2016 19:19:28
Ya I hate the rat are I know why he leaved and it was money and agent is a big **** . I'm just saying if coutinho leaved everyone would be saying the same thing.


02 Nov 2016 19:48:57
He didn't want to be with us, he wanted more money and he left. It's done, leave it. Although it's worth remembering that when he left, we did not have a single world class player in our ranks - some potential but none even close to that level.


02 Nov 2016 21:52:13
Nah I disagree Reus, if Coutinho leaves I think the majority would wish him the best, I don't want him to leave and personally don't think he will but should he go, good luck to the lad, atleast he's done stuff, a lot more then Sterling did. Sterling was just an absolute tool more interested in the money then anything else. I'm glad he did go, we don't want players like that at Liverpool. I'd rather have a player who want's to play for us then think ok, this kid came to us because of the money.


03 Nov 2016 01:41:45
Why are we still talking about Sterling exactly?


03 Nov 2016 03:26:55
On sheer sentimental value I agree and dislike Sterling for the manner of his exit. He did go for more money, but you could also understand somebody believing that there is more likelihood of City winning trophies with their squad and manager than the Liverpool team that he left (with Bodgers as manager) .
Not trying to defend him, but if someone works at an above average company (let's say LG smart phone manufacturing) but gets the same role with a pay hike at a company like Apple, they would be stupid to not consider it.


04 Nov 2016 03:48:36
I love Liverpool. always have, but our only champions league run in recent history was an absolute laughable joke. if it wasn't so tragically sad. Honestly, I can't blame him, Rodgers surely looked like taking us in a very poor direction, his transfers didn't look like they were going to make it (look at them now! ), his game play was boring, but he had great 'character ' :)

Still, the way he left was shocking. He and his agent acted like entitled brats. It could have cost us so much, but citeh still stumped up the massive £49 mill.


02 Nov 2016 15:23:20
Just heard the Danny Ings news and I'm devastated for the lad, he had only just worked his arse off to recover from the last one, football can be cruel sometimes. He's one of those players everyone wants to succeed due to his attitude, desire and sheer hard work he gets though when he plays and I'm wishing him a speedy recovery. Those saying get rid of him are being heartless, you can't expect loyalty from players you want to keep if you then turn around and throw the book at those going through hell through no fault of their own, loyalty in football works both ways.

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02 Nov 2016 16:36:31
Damn what's happened to him. Will have to go check. I think he works hard and has great attitude.


02 Nov 2016 16:18:15
Shocking news just shocking, this should have been his time after his last injury. Gutted for the guy.


02 Nov 2016 13:42:50
A question for the eds`

About the Champions League.
What do you guys think will take for english clubs to regain the dominance it enjoyed between 2005-2009 in this competition?

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{Ed002's Note - Improvement in the rankings gives significant benefits in the early stages of the competition. There is nothing the clubs can magically do except perform well - which they have not been terribly good at recently.}

02 Nov 2016 13:58:36
Do rankings even matter anymore in Europe? didn't the format change?

Winners of the leagues in pot 1, runners up pot 2 etc?

Hence Leicester getting a real easy group.


{Ed002's Note - That is not how they changed for anything but Pot 1 and the rankings count a great deal.}

02 Nov 2016 16:23:19
Maybe a winterbreak will do it.


02 Nov 2016 17:39:41
Like the winter break between 05-09?


02 Nov 2016 18:07:26
I was thinking that with the premier league now bringing in the money and the managers, it would only be a matter of time until the very best players wanted to play here, and that european success would return.

However, one thing that we did have back in that period was a stable top 4. Those teams had CL money, could attract the best players, and keep onto them if they wanted. Right now its hard to imagine the same top 4 two years in a row, at least one hopeful title challenger will miss out on CL this season, and that makes it harder.

You need a consistent run in the cup to have any chance of lifting it.


02 Nov 2016 20:04:59
If the winter break was so helpful, why do teams seem to struggle in the group stages as well as the later ones?

Fact is that we need to concentrate more and perform better in the groups. Too many English teams come second in their groups and struggle because they face too many top class opponents. I don't care if you're in the group with a European champion - any of the teams expected to be in our top 4 have the ability to beat anyone but the Spanish and Germany champions, and they need to cut the excuses and do it.

I might also look at giving teams still in Europe an extra round off in the FA to lighten the load slightly, and prioritize the fixture list to maximise the rest time they get. Those are small gains though.


02 Nov 2016 22:07:05
Personally I think we, potentially, could become a force in Europe in the coming 3 seasons. Not saying we will win anything but will be latter stage regulars.


02 Nov 2016 23:19:53
Personally, and I am likely wrong about this, there are probably a few issues that lead to English clubs doing poorly in Europe. The first is, as Ed002 said, the poor ranking of English clubs, meaning that we tend to get drawn against bigger teams in the group stages and finish second a get one of the huge teams in the first round.
The second is that the Premier League is incredibly tough. The money available means that even lesser teams have players that can hurt the big teams and that smaller teams are less likely to just submit against bid teams. This makes every game harder than in other leagues, especially Spain and Italy, and giving teams less opportunity to rest.
We also have 6 big teams that reasonably challenge for the Champions League. This means all of those teams have to take all their games seriously otherwise they could lose out on the moneypot that is Europe, which leads into the above problem.
Finally English teams have a habit of not spending their money very well. Historically, they tended to not spend the money on managers/ coaches/ scouts but on waste it on players who didn't fit a system or team. Hopefully, with all the top managers now in England, we should see this problem come to an end.


03 Nov 2016 10:41:15
Personally think the defences are the problem, not one of the back four of the teams in the Champions League right now would get into the back four of the teams from back then.


02 Nov 2016 13:39:29
i realise that this is going to get a lot of disagrees. one thing I'd like to point out is i'm not for one second down on ings (i'm gutted for the guy, geniunely) .

i'm just a bit taken back by the support he's receiving considering the abuse that sturridge receives whenever he gets an injury.

and don't give me anything about how hard ings work on the pitch, he does undoubtably, but do studge's goals count for nothing? he has been constantly trashed on here and regarded as a luxury etc.

to wrap up, i'm not opposing the ings support, i think it's great - i'm just saying that studge deserves exactly the same treatment!

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02 Nov 2016 14:01:23
Good point 87 and with 2 serious knee injuries you have to wonder if he'll ever come back the same. I'm sure he had a couple of lengthy lay offs at burnley as well ( not sure what for though) . That's a lots of time with no football for a reasonably young player. Let's hope studge and origi can stay fit for the rest of the season. If they don't and another striker comes in it would see ings fall further down the pecking order down the track and likely a move away.


02 Nov 2016 14:01:28
Completely agree, I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned before.


02 Nov 2016 14:02:16
i agree. both deserve our support.


02 Nov 2016 14:09:28
Every Liverpool deserve the same support ynwa.


02 Nov 2016 14:11:28
Got a feeling Klopp will bring another Striker in, in January now.


02 Nov 2016 14:16:45
But I think attitude is important in this comparison.
Even Klopp said not long after joining us that knocks other players play with keep Studge out, he won't play with a niggle, meaning a lot of the games Sturridge has missed has been down to himself,
Whereas I think Ings would probably still try and play unless his leg was hanging off.

I love Sturridge, but I think he could probably help himself a bit more.


02 Nov 2016 14:31:05
Absolutely Welsh couldn't agree more mate.


02 Nov 2016 16:08:01
With Ings injury. Perhaps Woodburn will be promoted to senior squad.


02 Nov 2016 17:54:26
Good point 87 red.


02 Nov 2016 21:51:22
The thing about Inges is that he seems 100% suited to Klopps style of play.
Hard work, hard pressing at a hard pace.

Sturridge is top striker but does not excel at the hard pressing side if the game.

If Sturridge played with Inges effort and commitment he'd pull every muscle and tear every tendon in his body.


02 Nov 2016 21:57:14
Ojo is back training, I think he will become a very big player for us, he has everything, and a bit more .


02 Nov 2016 11:53:04
Gutted for Danny Ings. Absolutely gutted!

May he have as speedy a recovery as possible and here's hoping this doesn't knock him down! So unlucky to have two serious knee injuries in two seasons! Such a hard worker and simply does not deserve this!

Come back soon Danny!

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02 Nov 2016 11:58:14
Exact thoughts, gutted for him. Seems like a good sort too, hope he recovers.


02 Nov 2016 12:56:33
Terrible news, so gutted for him. Just when I thought he may be breaking into the starting 11 soon and this happens, poor bugger. I can't help but think, this is the end for him at Liverpool, I know it's a harsh statement but the poor lads got no chance now in my opinion and he had to potential to be excellent for us. Let's hope he recovers well, that's the main.


02 Nov 2016 13:03:20
seem might seem like a stupid question because he didn't feature that much but which young player does everyone think is in best position to replace ings in first team picture? whether it be actually getting minutes or just spending more time at melwood.


02 Nov 2016 13:39:31
Lf-c the best out and out striker in the academy is Brooks Lennon.

However with the way our first team play (an interchangeable front 3) the likes of Wilson and Woodburn are probably better placed to get game time.

Replacing Ings is fairly redundant anyway. He was already behind Sturridge amd Origi who themselves can't even get games lately!


02 Nov 2016 13:42:00
Gutted for the lad. Ed01 was worried about his injury history when he signed as he`d had a bad knee injury in the past. This is now his third horrific knee injury and I am afraid, this may be the end of his LFC career. Even Ronaldo was never really the same again after his two horrific injuries so with Ings having three already around the same age (24) Ronaldo had his injuries, I doubt he`sll have an LFC to come back to after he returns. I know the club will do all they can to help him but I think he will go the same route that Flanno is on now as in, he won`t be here long term after recovery, just like Flanno will be sold in the near future, as the Ed`s have said.


02 Nov 2016 11:18:16
Sometimes life is just a ****ing ass. So sorry for ya ingsy lad.

Not to be negative fo th future but definitely worth starting his badges now, he can't afford many more of these injuries. That's his 4th that I definitely know.

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02 Nov 2016 11:33:43
Unbelievable for the lad! Has so much talent and the heart to use it. But his knees won't let him show what he's capable of. Hope it works out for him but can't see it being at Liverpool. Massive shame!


02 Nov 2016 11:46:06
I think it's time for him to take his talent to another sport personally. He's meant to be quite a beast in the boxing gym.


02 Nov 2016 12:07:17
I might get hate for this but I think the lad was trying way too hard to get into klopp plans and has overexerted himself without caring for his body. trying to attempt a challenge in the dying moments of a game is what lfc website quotes, I don't mind his heart and soul for the game nature but players with injury concerns need to be carefully nurtured too. this is very unfortunate- and dare I say seems career threatening. this is where you see a stark difference in Sturridge approach, he looks to take care of himself foremost and yet is committed to Liverpool cause. I know all this seems me turning on Ings but I was so looking forward to his return in premier league games. I believe he would hav given us an extra edge esp in games that are to come.


02 Nov 2016 12:17:41
He picked it up in a little. knock against Tottenham. Pure unlucky. Not a twist or anything like that. I think he needs to be in a less atletic system tbh, one that would allow him to just stay up front and nit press.


02 Nov 2016 12:33:07
He's a battler, forget all this talk of changing clubs or sports. He's a red I'm behind him to overcome this issues.


02 Nov 2016 11:02:55
Chelsea fan but hope Ings makes a full recovery and isn't too demoralised. Very sad.

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02 Nov 2016 12:13:16
Top Post mate.


02 Nov 2016 12:26:51
Random and very welcome post. nice 1 mate 👌.


02 Nov 2016 13:16:00
Nice one mate.


02 Nov 2016 13:26:16
Keep your head up Danny.

Look at the positives.

Your at the best club in the world.

You have the best fans in the world
rooting for you.

We know and appreciate hard work, commitment and skill.

You have all three by the bucket load.

YNWA.


02 Nov 2016 13:42:47
Stay strong, Ingsy!


02 Nov 2016 11:01:58
Gutted for ings poor lads had no luck atall with these injuries, hopefully a speedy recovery.

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02 Nov 2016 10:46:36
Feel sorry for Ingsy, hope for a speedy recovery.

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02 Nov 2016 10:21:13
Hi eds, how do you tink Klopp will prepare the team mentally when we meet Citeh?

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{Ed001's Note - the same way he does every week.}

02 Nov 2016 10:33:28
did you seriously expect a response from that!?


02 Nov 2016 10:47:28
I believe with Citeh he will be mostly relaying tactics to the team via subliminal messages on their lunchtime sandwich packaging.


02 Nov 2016 11:40:37
Think he will just give them a pep talk!


02 Nov 2016 12:33:58
And a Kloppohug.


02 Nov 2016 18:05:52
You aced it Acered.


02 Nov 2016 07:54:10
Hi eds, was wondering if you could please answer a question for me. I know you don't rate Van Dijk highly but why does every commentator and journalist talk about him being the most 'complete' defender in England? Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - because he has all the ability in the world, just none of the mental attributes required. Whenever you watch Southampton being attacked quickly, you will see him end up caught hopelessly out of position at some point, stood watching the play develop making no attempt to get back in. Those are the kind of things commentators and journalists haven't the ability to spot, as they are so busy watching the ball, they don't see what individual players actually do away from it. They will see him being strong and winning tackles or headers, but not the times when he is posted missing, as he is nowhere near the ball.

The thing is, he is strong, fast, good in the air and on the ball, so he should be the best defender in the Prem. Technically he is like a stronger, faster, better on the ball John Stones. Sadly he is as prone to stupidity and defensive lapses, so he is more of a Stones than an Alderweireld.}

02 Nov 2016 08:21:30
On a similar note Ed01, How do you rate John Stones. He was opnce again terrible yesterday.


{Ed001's Note - I don't rate him at all. He has no defensive intelligence at all. He simply can not defend.}

02 Nov 2016 08:24:59
Y is he rated so high by his own club and Everton. Good on the ball, Yes but what is that actually. He could pick a player forward so does David Luiz. Positionally inept. He is the most expensive defender in the history of this game.


02 Nov 2016 08:33:47
For once Harry I agree with you, Stones is awful, and they went and paid all that money for him, when it happened I was gobsmacked, before it happened all the talk about him moving on for a while made me think why are these top teams wanting him, he's got nothing to offer what so ever, 20 million would've been a joke nevermind what was paid for him.


02 Nov 2016 08:56:32
Thanks for the reply ED1. Do you believe, over time, that he will eventually develop those mental attributes required? Thanks.


{Ed001's Note - no, I think he is too laid back to have the desire needed to become the player he should be. You need to have the drive or hunger of a Carragher to really get the utmost out of your talents. VVD clearly does not have that, he doesn't even seem bothered by the goals conceded while he is stood watching on the edge of the box, or at least he doesn't seem to realise he is to blame and looks to blame others.}

02 Nov 2016 09:18:09
I think a lot of the time people see defenders who have ball skills and automatically see them as a great defenders. It is not always the case.


02 Nov 2016 10:13:02
Will expect us to throw another 25m at the Saints then Ed in the next year or so 😆.


02 Nov 2016 13:53:51
Ed already raised these issues with VVD in the recent past. So I watched the Saints game vs Chelsea last Sunday and was monitoring him closely and Ed is bang on the money. VVD has all the physical attributes to be a top class CB. However, he didn`t seem bothered to track back, get into better defensive positions. The guy isn`t even fit to lace Matip`s boots so how he`s getting rated that high is beyond me. As for Stones, if he was not English, no one would care as it is appalling how terrible he is as a defender yet many "pundits" say he`s the future for England. If VVD is not fit to lace Matip`s boots, then Stones is not fit to be anywhere near them. If he`s the future for England, then don`t be surprised as to why England are perennial failures on the world stage for 50 years.


02 Nov 2016 18:03:45
Ed01 what about John Stones do you think he learn and improve the defensive side of his game as he gets older and more experienced. Or do you think playing in a pep side won't really improve his defensive side of the game?


{Ed001's Note - I don't think he is any good, nor does he have the manager to improve his defending added to a lack of inclination to improve.}

03 Nov 2016 00:00:16
What would you change or who would you sign to sort out the problems we seem to have Ed?

We have been bad for a long time at the back. Very open to conceding silly or stupid goals.

I always thought a more defensive minded coach should be added to the backroom along with a new keeper coach. Both areas need addressed for sure. And haven't been to my knowledge. The zonal system isn't great either but can work so it's more the coaching side I see as the problem. Maybe klopp has a guy already? Haha

Your wisdom is awaited . lol thanks.


{Ed001's Note - keeper coach, that would be my first change. Achterberg is a great guy, but he is not improving our keepers, so I would add a more experience guy over him and give him the chance to learn from that coach.

By the way, we do NOT play a zonal system, I keep hearing those moronic pundits moaning about it, purely because they are clueless and moronic. We clearly play the standard mixed system 99% of teams use. Some man mark, the rest pick up zones. It is standard fare, not an issue once we get a keeper commanding the area and organising it properly.}

02 Nov 2016 05:14:04
Thanks Eds for the good work. I especially appreciate Ed001 match report/ analysis, be it in words or in podcast.

In terms of our current team, I think we are great going forward. It's an entirely different way of attacking than what I'm used to. Our current front four (Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana, Mane) are very different to Owen/ Heskey, Torres/ Gerrard, Sturridge/ Suarez, and forwards we used to have.

In midfield, I think we are still trying to find a partner for Henderson. I'm not convinced about Can yet - and personally I think Wijnaldum works better, though the partnership is far from perfect. Do you know if we are interested in Kondogbia from Inter? Really like him from the time he was at Monaco.

For our defense, hopefully we get an upgrade on Lovren like Ed001 said - though I would like to see Gomez given a chance to partner Matip. Do you think it will happen?


In goal, not sure if anyone else feels the same way but Karius reminds me of Westerveld. Not particularly good, but not particularly memorable. We did win stuffs with him in goal but he's far from convincing.

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02 Nov 2016 03:07:32
Another thing why don't we pay Southampton a mill a month because we always end up buying from them.

Believable1 Unbelievable3

02 Nov 2016 03:06:00
Just thinking. surely ward will be back in the first team because I can't imagine mignolet will want to sit on the bench (first team 22/ 23). I just hope we improve slowly with buying. I've got no knowledge inside lfc, just love football. Especially this club, Still think we need a left back, centre back and a striker. I'm impressed this season I think top four was my thoughts, can't see us winning it but who knows, be interesting I would love to talk to everyone with inside knowledge because everything is about learning and I feel that's what this team has to do. Keep learning.

Believable1 Unbelievable6

02 Nov 2016 06:49:37
So you want another striker when we have 2 on the bench and 1 in the u23s?


02 Nov 2016 07:17:31
Mate the last thing we need is a striker.


02 Nov 2016 07:40:48
There's absolutely no need for another striker. There's not another team in the league with our striking options. Firmino, Sturridge, Origi, Ings and to an extent Mane is more than enough strikers for a team to have. Even city don't have that many with all the money they have.


02 Nov 2016 08:00:13
More then anything we should be offloading one of them, who is debatable and a hard choice but we don't need all of these strikers nevermind another one.


02 Nov 2016 15:11:23
Of all the positive things tmr said everyone focussing on the striker and takes to a negative response. We don't need another striker but jeez.


03 Nov 2016 02:47:49
Fair point 88.


 
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