Liverpool Banter Archive May 02 2016

02 May 2016 22:17:17
Congrats to Leicester.

02 May 2016 22:20:47
To be fair they have deserved it and I'm not sure I'll ever witness an upset like that over a full season ever again.

02 May 2016 22:25:57
Well done Leicester.
A great day for your City. with a World Snooker Champion tonight too.

02 May 2016 23:38:02
One of the greatest achievements in sport. Cup runs are one thing, and giant killings another, but over a season, is incredible. Admittedly the 'big' teams were poor, but 7 points clear is massive and will never happen again in my opinion.

03 May 2016 01:58:32
This why we love sports, an arena where the little engine that couldn't, not only could, it did. Congratulations to LC. You've deserved it, hands down.

03 May 2016 04:34:12
Congrats Leicester great day in sport.

03 May 2016 06:04:33
Yeah agree, congratulations to them, what a team.

03 May 2016 06:35:59
My salute to the team of Leicester and their manager.

To win a League over 38 games cannot be chalked down to luck or other teams being poor etc. This is pure hard work, team play and managerial success.

I feel there is a lesson here for Liverpool. It's a simple game where anything is possible. Let's take inspiration for what we want to achieve!

03 May 2016 08:19:48
Incredible Roy of the Rovers stuff. Amazing for LCFC, the city and their fans AND just as amazing for all the fans of football around the world. Fantastic and will make a truly wonderful film!

02 May 2016 22:07:53
Just want to say congrats to Leicester. Hope to join you in the Champions league next season. Greatest achievment ever in football.

02 May 2016 21:58:46
Congratulations Leicester! Fully deserved.

02 May 2016 20:54:30
With Jurgen Klopp promoting young players and recalling others from loan spells to prove their worth have impressed the most (in your opinion)

Danny Ward
Connor Randall
Joe Maguire
Brad Smith
Pedro Chirivella
Kevin Stewart
Cameron Brannagan
Ryan Kent
Sheyi Ojo
Jerome Sinclair.

02 May 2016 19:25:30
I see Yarmelenko has got himself in trouble kicking an opposing player. I hope, given Klopp's comments about not wanting trouble makers, that this would end our alleged interest.

02 May 2016 20:59:08
I can you if this player can get up to speed with the English game. He will be one hell of a signing for someone. He can score with his left or his right.

02 May 2016 20:59:08
I can you if this player can get up to speed with the English game. He will be one hell of a signing for someone. He can score with his left or his right.

02 May 2016 16:39:58
Villareal won away at Valencia last night two goals to nil. Have secured champions league for next season, near enough played the same side as first leg against us BAKAUMBA on bench . One bit of optimism the big centre back BAILLY who went off with what appeared to be a hamstring not in team or on bench he was a beast last Thursday.

02 May 2016 17:32:44
Pull yourself together 007. Are u questioning the result on Thursday? Come on fella European night at Anfield under the lights. Cup semi final with the12th man in full voice. And Klopp leading his troops into battle. There is only one outcome. Book your ticket to Basle mate. And no I'm not being jingoistic I really think we will do it as I didn't see anything from Villarreal in the first leg to suggest that we aren't capable of beating them over 2 legs.

02 May 2016 18:27:43
007 Villarreal made 10 changes to the team that played us. Solado was the only starter from our game. Valencia are not a very good team so I am not bothered. I believe we will go through on Thursday.

02 May 2016 18:36:15
But u saw plenty from liverpool branda to give u that much confidence?

02 May 2016 18:48:51
Chris in the first leg in Spain we were without Can, Origi, Sakho and Henderson that's 4 first teamers which is nearly a third of the team and we still made them look ordanairy. I feel with the adrenalin pumping, the crowd behind the boys we can't lose. Besides the law of averages suggest firminho and coutinho will have good games because they've been horrible the last two they've played. And if those two click were in for a good time. Keep the faith guys we are winning this competition! In the crazy German we trust!

02 May 2016 18:49:30
Very much so Chris we have been very good since February. Sunday was just a blip.

02 May 2016 19:12:16
Are those players back brenda? I predict a very cagey night and infact think u will progress but I think it's slightly red tinted to think it's a given.

If they score first u could in trouble.

Mighty, just a blip? What about Newcastle, Thursday too another blip? That's 3 blips in a week mate.

02 May 2016 19:21:38
Villareal can't be underestimated, that's for sure. Their manager has them well drilled and they have had some great results. In my opinion the only thing that keeps this game in the balance is thr loss of the 4 players. Yet, like Brenda has said, playing at Anfield in front of our crowd, under floodlights in a European semi final, well that's when Liverpool FC comes alive. i'm sure their manager will warn his players but you don't really experience it until you are out there. i'm confident. We have already taken care of good teams like Dortmund, let's hope Villareal is just another stepping stone to another European Trophy.

02 May 2016 19:49:22
Chris Dortmund scored 2 in 9 minutes. It wasnt enough. don't you be worrying too much. Leave that to the Liverpool fans.

02 May 2016 19:49:24
Villareal are not a team we should fear at all.
We've disposed of Man Utd and Borussia Dortmund in this competition.
If we can reproduce something close to those performances, we'll dispose of the Yellow Submarine too.

02 May 2016 20:01:05
Not worried about Thursday. Routine victory at Anfield.

02 May 2016 20:03:03
Chrisdaredman i'm trying super hard to be civil and not let my loathing for your mob to show. I grant you Newcastle and Swansea were major blips. But spending a quarter of a BILLION pounds to get 5th place that's a stratospheric and hilarious BLIP. Please don't deface this page with negativity we have a big game on Thursday. But your well aware of that mate.

02 May 2016 20:23:38
U finished 7th not 5th brenda, oh hang on. u were again deflecting attention away from your poor showing after all the money spent and talking about us.

Why are u finding it hard to be civil mate? Just because I support utd that means u can't have a amicable debate with me?

As I have said earlier I think u will progress but find it somewhat odd u have taken great encouragement from your recent form and display in Spain and back up your confidence by saying u only just lost without a host of players injured and most will still be injured on Thursday.

02 May 2016 21:25:47
I think you under estimate the power of the crowd at Anfield Chris. We have had clawed victory from the jaws of defeat many times on European nights were kind of famous for it. Even if we have half a team I'd expect us to beat anyone at Andield in Europe under the lights.
The reason I'm trying hard to be civil is because I have a unhealthy distain for your club, your knuckle dragging fans and your ex manager who was leas classier than El-Jadji Diouf. I make no apologies for the way I feel the same way is as Garry Neville makes no excuses for despising us.

02 May 2016 22:03:40
U need to calm down mate, your right it is unhealthy.

Knuckle draggers, bit rich lol. I'm far from that mate, I like to think I'm quite balanced with my views and sort of know a bit about the sport I love.

Still, my opinion doesn't not matter because u don't like my club, or a manager that has managed my team.

Chill fella ;)

02 May 2016 22:25:16
Chris I couldn't put it more cicinctly myself. Manchester United don't matter.

03 May 2016 02:15:10
007, chill. Villareal should be worried at stage hell we will unleash on them if Xavi buckled into that atmosphere then Villareal are in for a shock. Their coach can talk to them about the atmosphere till he's blue in the face but the fact remains that when we are in full voice, they won't be able to handle us on the pitch. As for the manc, Brenda is right. Your club doesn't matter to us, never have, never will and btw, we are the reason you no longer exist in Europe this season.

02 May 2016 13:33:03
Ed1, if you have time, could you compile a little assessment on our centre midfield situation:
*Who we have and your opinion of whether they will/ should stay
*Who we have interest in
*Who we should have interest in

For me Can is not far away from being a starter in central midfield for the World Champions and has been far and away our best central midfielder this season
Henderson was arguably our second most important player after Suarez in that season, and his suspension cost is the title, but seeing his performances this season these an argument to be made injuries may have killed him and a large offer could not be refused
Milner has proved himself in big European games, although I don't think he should be an assured starter
Allen deserves a new contract, if not we can pull the £15million we spent on him back
Lucas is imperious before an injury and then has two months after one where he is all over the place. Not bad to keep as a squad option and a great lad by all accounts in te dressing room but a younger, less injury prone DM is needed.

{Ed001's Note - I won't get a chance to do that for a while, I am busy preparing to go to Spain for the rest of the year mate. Once I am there I will put something together for you though.}

02 May 2016 16:27:35
In terms of stats, which is important for a midfielder, how much has can contributed compared to the others. Henderson has been injured most the season and still contributed more in terms of goals and assists and chances created. Milner obviously tops that list but apparently he's not an assured starter. I know football is far more than stats but even when you watch them play can is a very error prone raw player. He has still so much to learn but apparently he should be an automatic starter. I think we certainly need a new midfielder, preferably a defencive midfielder who can also contribute going forward. Our most all round midfielder after that is Henderson. It doesn't matter how you twist it, he is more assured than can is. Look at what we are like with him in the team and without him in the team. I agree, he's been very inconsistent since returning from his injury but he's been one of our better players before that. I'd say the two in midfield next season should be a new top quality midfielder partnering either Henderson or can. Milner is preferred in a different position but can also be used in the centre so he should be kept as a useful utility player. Allen I'm 50/ 50 on, he's become a really good squad player and has improved so much under klopp. His ability was there before but he just didn't have the confidence a midfielder requires to shine. I wouldn't mind seeing him go if a good offer comes in. Lucas, although he's our most experienced Liverpool player (he's been at the club the longest) i just don't see him staying much longer. As you've said, before the inevitable injury he is imperious and probably our most important player, but as soon as an injury hits, he's basically done for the season. I think we need an upgrade on defencive midfield and he should make way for that.

A new midfielder, Henderson, can, Milner, Possibly Allen, and Stewart should be our midfield for next season.

{Ed002's Note - Sell Griujic then?}

02 May 2016 16:58:01
Klopp plays with 2 CM in the middle and I would love a Matic type to float in there. But it also means you bench one of Can / Henderson which wouldn't be welcomed here mate.

02 May 2016 12:44:40
Afternoon eds. ..............

{Ed002's Note - Try the European pages. This is the Liverpool page and we are not answering questions about random players you have seen on television.}

02 May 2016 12:27:38
Ed001/ 002 not a rumour but a question, if you'd take the time to answer it. Howcome Liverpool released Adam Morgan? Whenever he played for the U21s he was superb, never had a fair chance in the senior squad. Any insight would be great.

{Ed002's Note - He was surplus to requirements and it was clear he had no first team future - something shown to be clear as he struggled at Yeovil and Accrington to get games. I don't know where he is now.}

02 May 2016 12:57:48
Over hyping youngsters has been the biggest problem over the years at LFC. By managers and fans.

Perfect examples are Suso and Pacheco who were looked at as the next big thing. Biggest issue was that they probably never had the right guidance and followed by the wrong attitude.

The likes of Ibe and Ojo can become really good players but only with the right guidance and player attitude.

02 May 2016 15:26:35
He is at Colwyn Bay now, release by Hemel Hempstead not very long ago. I found some quotes by the manager after he was released, he said

“But I’m sorry to say that Adam Morgan was one player who never wanted to work hard enough for us. I’m not trying to kill the lad, I’m just being honest.

Adam had a chance with us – he started three games but I think he’s only had two shots. You’ve got to work hard, first and foremost. "

{Ed001's Note - is he really at Colwyn Bay? Will have to speak to my uncle then and see how he is getting on.}

02 May 2016 16:39:32
Hes not even at cowlyn bay anymore his registration was cancelled after he failed to appear for his 4th game. That lad could of made it with the right attitude just goes to show how quickly things can fail for you if u don't apply yourself.

02 May 2016 11:11:40
I hope the javier pastroe link is true. A real bit of quality in the middle.

In my option that is our weakest area not defence, a quality midfield can take pressure off a defence.

All our lot do is heap pressure on the defence.

02 May 2016 11:25:53
Hasn't set the world alite at PSG. Too weak to play centre midfield and too slow to play out wide. Would be a waste of money and frankly we can't carry a luxury player like him.

02 May 2016 11:30:30
Agreed.
Pastore is a class player . That would be a great signing.
We live in hope. 😀👍🏼.

02 May 2016 15:23:05
Great player but not for the us sadly. Slower tempo suits him.

02 May 2016 06:59:06
Some lfc fans on here need to respect that all lfc fans have their own opinion, you may not agree, the person posting may be a complete tool like myself, but respect that every person on here has a right to their own opinion. It's the same club we all love and support so a little human decency would go a long way.

To the people I have previously insulted, I am sorry.

02 May 2016 08:23:21
Hey pal, I respect the opinion of anyone who admits to being a tool, Ha ha.
It's a banter site and it would be pretty boring if we were all sheep.
Sometimes you might need to except that your post will come in for a bit of hate from Trolls.
Keep posting mate.

01 May 2016 20:43:33
Bit of a different question to ask but Ed001 can I get your opinion on Scholes as a player. I was having an argument with my mate and he was adament that Gerrard was a better player to him. I love Gerrard as a player as much as anyone but is it bad that i prefer Scholesy even though he played for united.

{Ed001's Note - they were totally different types of player, both had a nasty streak, but Scholes was sly with it and got away with some of the slyest nastiest tackles in football because he was Scholes. He could tackle but chose not to bother, as it was easier to just foul people. So, like Gerrard, he lacked the defensive responsibility and positional sense, but they manifested in different ways.

Going forward, Gerrard was all about charging in like a bull in a china's shop, smashing through defences with power and pace. Scholes was about ghosting in late and getting on the end of things in and around the box. Both scored and created lots of goals in their own way, but Scholes was less reliant on physical attributes than Gerrard, which is why he was able to come back from retirement and continue, with little sign of a struggle.

Both had a great range of passing, but Gerrard would always look to hit a 50 yard pass first, Scholes would only look to the 'Hollywood' ball when it was definitely on. Scholes' finishing was sublime, he was lethal and it was not just about hitting with power. Gerrard was mainly smashing it at the target every chance he got.

Scholes had better players around him, in the main, playing a style of football that suited him, giving him an option in wide areas almost every time he got on the ball. Gerrard sometimes played in very average sides with team mates who hid from the ball. How can you compare the two?

It is like comparing Pirlo with Gattuso, to a slightly lesser degree, both great players in their own right playing in the same area of the pitch, but doing it is such a different way that you can't really compare them. All you are going to do is choose the one who plays the style you prefer or who played for your team. They were two of the very best in the world, let alone England, at playing the way they did, that is for sure.

For me though, I just look at them and think what could have been. They should have been the best in the world, but the coaching they received never allowed them to become it. Gerrard was never given the discipline needed and Scholes was not played far enough back early enough, to really make the most of their skills.}

02 May 2016 05:02:05
Flipin heck Buttercup you have surpassed yourself today with that assessment of scholars and Gerrard. It was sheer poetry, my eyes welled up reading it. Did you eat three shredded wheat for breakfast? But you failed to mention scholes was a lesser player than Gerard because he was a ginger!

{Ed001's Note - ah but being ginger meant he had to be better to receive the recognition as people are so afraid of gingers they refuse to notice how much better they are than the rest....}

02 May 2016 06:20:41
Scholes was a great player in my humble opinion, Gerrard was too, both great players, now move on to Thursday and I hope a anfield is rocking because we will need a special night again.

02 May 2016 07:09:55
Scholes was originally a striker who found a better place for himself in midfield. Gerrard was originally a wide midfielder who found a slightly worse place for himself in centre midfield, but albeit still greatly excelled at it.

02 May 2016 08:58:25
United fan here in peace.

Although I agree with Ed001 that they were different players, I would have had Scholes in my team if it was an either or situation.

I think both of their long range hollywood passing and goalscoring abilities are on par.

But where Scholes edges it for me is in his short intricate passing to break open tight defenses that sit back. The tiki taka kind of Barcelona passing, the little flick over the top of the center backs etc.

Also Scholes' ability to slow the game down or quicken it up at will was superior to Gerrard's imo. Scholes kept possession much better than Gerrard I think and brought his teammates a lot more into play.

I agree that their tackling and rather lack of discipline was more down to coaching and tactics rather than their own inability. Just look at Scholes in the season's Queroz was number 2 and was in charge of tactics, Scholes was very disciplined in terms of positioning and interceptions and chose his forward runs almost to perfection.

Gerrard was a superb player, a better leader, great box to box ability but Scholes edges it. I am always left wondering what could have been for that talented England team if Scholes, Gerrard, Rooney were used with the right tactics.

02 May 2016 09:27:38
I'd be interested to read a post from a Utd fan who thought Gerrard was better, or a Liverpool fan who preferred Scholes.

02 May 2016 10:35:13
Hey redfaith, obviously you prefer Scholes and I prefer Gerrard, my justification is Gerrard's ability to take a game by the scruff of the neck and win it despite his team mates.

We'll never agree who was better so I'll just say how did they never even make a semi in international competition let alone win anything? A wasted generation.

02 May 2016 05:09:26
Scholes is an old school CM who was first class in passing and dictating the tempo of the game and much like other classy CM (Zidane, Xavi ) He couldn't put in a tackle and always Played alongside a top class CDM. He was considered better than Xavi by many.

Gerrard was the most complete all round midfielder in the world excelled in almost all the position he has played. Fine passing attributes with brilliant goal scoring records.
You could play both in the same team very much what Spurs are setting up now.
Dembele - Scholes
Alli - Gerrard.

02 May 2016 12:18:11
Gerrard is the most complete footballer of all time .

02 May 2016 14:02:23
U put scholes in the teams Gerrard had and he would not have the Sam impact you put Gerrard in the United teams he would so that tells you who the better player is . # Gerrard.

02 May 2016 15:48:06
Thanks ed001 for taking the time to answer my question. Wonderful assessment.

{Ed001's Note - you are welcome mate and thank you.}

02 May 2016 16:47:26
Gerrard could win you a match, scholes would help win you a match. Scholes is useful on a pitch full of great players, Gerrard is useful on a pitch full of average players. You would have scholes in your team if the midfielders that are alongside him make up for his lack of ability elsewhere. Gerrard didn't need that in his pomp. Gerrard was the most complete midfielder at one point, scholes never was. If I relied on a player to win me a match, it would be Gerrard 9/ 10 and that's what football is all about. In terms of ability on the ball, scholes wins, but it terms of ability with the ball, Gerrard wins. I'd rather Gerrard in my team as I know he'd consistently perform and can win me the game out of nothing. Can't say the same about scholes.

03 May 2016 04:59:50
Pace power/ strength, passing shooting crossing leading tackling passion fitness skill leadership . Willing to play for his country versitile heading ability at pieces short pass long pass slip, who else can do this? Marradonna? No . Pele? No . Ronaldo? No messi no . Zidane? No . Stevie g yes . Best all round playet ever its not up for debate 😄.

{Ed001's Note - what leadership? He was never a leader. Best all round player would know something about defending as well as attacking, he did not. Great player but never an all round one, he was all about the glory.}

02 May 2016 00:40:00
United struggle against Leicester, yet to play West Ham. City majorly struggle against Saints, yet to play Arsenal. This is why I believed we could make top 4, but we've absolutely blown it every time a door has been opened for us. : (

02 May 2016 16:50:07
We`ve had about 10 chances this season to make a run at top 4 and ALL ten have been blown.

02 May 2016 00:07:46
I'm going to be slaughtered for saying this but Ojo won't make it at Liverpool. He plays football at walking pace. There's no energy to his game and I can't believe he is being so lauded. Furthermore I believe his movement and positioning is suspect and he can't defend for toffee. Just saying!

02 May 2016 00:40:21
Mr bluesky.

02 May 2016 00:42:40
Think he's got every chance myself.

02 May 2016 00:58:57
We had three great English hopes on the wing. Sterling, Ibe and Ojo. I don't think the latter two will make their mark at Liverpool. I really hope I'm wrong. And to be fair sterling was aching to leave. A top class winger or two are desperately needed in the summer I think.

02 May 2016 01:00:58
Funny how opinions seem to change when we lose, now one of our brightest prospects is no longer good enough. I'm sorry i don't see how you could be so negative on an 18 year old kid with so much natural talent, after watching him play in just a handful of first team games.

I didn't get to watch the game today but even on the back of what may have been a poor performance, i think he has the necessary qualities to reach the highest level and surprisingly, one off-day will not end up defining his career.

02 May 2016 01:05:11
He reminded me of Paulo wanchope today but then there wasn't much to shout about from anyone. think he will be a good player for us in time.

02 May 2016 02:15:26
What I've seen of the kid in the game he's plays it . He can beat him with pace . Got a good cross on him and he works hard.

02 May 2016 04:28:26
He has talent, pace and technical ability but he does need to learn to work hard and not do the laid back look that we sometimes get before bursting into life. Watch he likes of Mane, Mahrez, Sanchez and they are always moving and making runs. Ojo needs to make a lot more sprints off the ball and try get in behind and disrupt the Defence rather than sitting wide and hoping for the ball. There were at least three of four occasions a run in behind was on but he didn't make any sprints forward to get in behind.

02 May 2016 03:24:41
Am I not allowed to have an opinion on Ojo HX Red? I'm 43 years of age. Been watching Liverpool since the age of seven and had a season ticket for many years. I can safely say I've seen a few players come and go in my time so when I see someone like Ojo saunter through games I think I'm allowed to have my say. Their was no urgency on his part to hasten the play, drop his shoulder or make something happen. I appreciate the whole team was utter tripe but you'd expect a kid trying to make a name for himself to try and do something extraordinairy or do something of merit. I feel as if he has Benteke syndrome and I hope he changes his style of play because he has all the physical attributes to be a player. Speed, strength and skill. I hope Klopp can work some magic with the kid.

{Ed001's Note - I have to say, there are a lot of questions to be answered about whether you should have an opinion. Personally I am not sure you have done enough to deserve one. You do seem to coast through games a bit, recording them to watch later as you can't squirm your way out from under your bird's thumb to watch it live and other sundry excuses ;-)

02 May 2016 05:53:07
Is nothing sacred? I trusted you with every sinew of my being Ed's 001 and you outed me in the most heinous way imaginable. Karma will exact my retribution for me my friend. In my defense I have a girlfriend who makes me carry her shopping bags at the mall so on occasion I have to record the game and watch it later. I'm not proud of my actions but I feel the trade off is worth it (incredible coitus) Besides I've only recorded around 6 games and most of them were in the Europa League against Azerbaijan Rovers or Klamkood FC. In other news I'm watching the United v Leicester game and three things strike me. What an outrageously good footballer Riyad Mahrez is. kasper Schmeichel is tremendous makes Migs look infantile and what an ugly man Wayne Rooney is.

{Ed001's Note - now you know it is b****x, no one who has ever had sex before refers to it as coitus! All that effort to try and pop that cherry and you are still stuck with it. Poor bar steward.}

02 May 2016 06:11:48
I'm surprised you know what coitus means you knuckle dragger. I'm off to bed now and hopefully I dream of meeting Ray Winstone and Jamie Carragher again like I did last nite. It was bitter sweet because Winstone took a shine to me but Carragher gave me the cold shoulder I was gutted.

{Ed001's Note - Ray Winston is far more your type, a nice Hammers fan for you. Carra is a bit feminine for you. You like the butch ones. Interesting how talking about coitus immediately brings those two to mind for you.....}

02 May 2016 06:23:18
You the one that flicks my switch buttercup. Every time I see you in your XXXXXL Liverpool top On Skype. My heart skips a beat and I start listening to Taylor Swift songs. All those oppressed homo erotic feelings come gushing out. I wish your weren't so insanely manly so your girlfriend would leave you and we could be together and live in a harmonious wonderland. Say it will happen buttercup I don't think I can take it much longer.

{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, I know it breaks your heart but you will have to stick to your fantasies of Harry....}

02 May 2016 06:58:10
Nice exchanges, it used to this fun when anyone could post real timw reliable info starting with" my aunt's boyfriend son who works at xxxx" until thw eds start to stick to serious questions.

02 May 2016 01:03:19
He's terrible. Has played 6 games for the 1st team and has 1 goal and 3 assists.