Liverpool Banter Archive July 02 2014

 

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02 Jul 2014 23:50:08
I can understand the concern of some fans over Suarez leaning but really it is for the best I was his biggest fan but not after this incident because simply he has no respect for lfc. If he did he would not have bitten chiellini and once again embarrassed us and the owners, this has gone too far now it is best he leaves.
He is an egocentric maniac. He has no respect for the club or fans, and our reputation has had enough of his rubbish dragging us down we should nit have to take this .
Liverpool has a culture of respect and a family feel and he does neither. Plus if he does not want to be here we don't want him either.
We did not win the perm with him here so no difference if he goes, BR will do well with the team he has and whoever he will bring in.

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02 Jul 2014 23:43:47
Hi eds. Not a rumour, more of a question.
Other than Sanchez, is there any other alternatives lined up to replace Suarez? Such as Reus?
Don't know about other reds fans but whilst Can and Origi have potential and Lambert and Lallana are good squad additions, I fear that whilst our squad will be stronger, our starting 11 will be weaker when you compare our transfer activity to Chelseas.
Any clues eds as to who we could get to replace Suarez?

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{Ed002's Note - Reus won't be joining.}

Comparing our transfers to Chelsea's is going to be a losing battle. We have nowhere near their financial power, particularly in terms of sales. They could literally sell 10 or so players for over £20M and already sold Luiz and Mata combined for something not dissimilar to what we're likely to get for Suarez. How many players can we sell for that sort of cash?

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03 Jul 2014 04:40:14
Thats what happens when you buy a player for gamble and doesn't turn out to be one.
World class players will give you worlld class money.
Sturridge ll fetch u a good amount

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Many people thought compared our transfer activities last year to Spurs and look where each team ended up. But the key point you are missing is that there's approximately 59 days left in the transfer window - now is certainly not the time to panic and write off our transfer window.

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Torres? Harry. Maybe not every world class player!

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03 Jul 2014 09:12:12
The Irish

Torres gave us 50 mill at a time when He litreally limping.

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02 Jul 2014 23:42:49
Anyone think we should go for michu, we were linked previously, now his fee would be greatly reduced, say 10 mill and at 28'hemwould be a great addition to play just behind the striker?

Thoughts eds n reds?

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03 Jul 2014 00:30:48
Behind the striker?! Instead of lallana sterling coutinho? No thanks.

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Absolutely not. He's not that good and he would still cost probably £12m or so and I don't think we'd have much use for him. As per Redtwist, no way would he get a game behind the striker so that leaves backup for Sturridge and I'd rather Lambert up top than Michu, that would be even aside from the price.

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02 Jul 2014 23:40:31
A question for the eds please why does Sanchez not prefer Liverpool but arsenal do you what it is?
Hibsylfc

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{Ed002's Note - I could do no more than be assumptive.}

Easier to break into the Arsenal starting eleven.

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He has not come out and said anything of the kind its purely just speculation so nobody knows for sure if he wants to or not but either way we will know by the end of the week.

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03 Jul 2014 10:09:33
Many foreign players (and other people) think of London as a more attractive place to live. No idea what Sanchez's feelings are as of yet. Quick! Somebody take him to Liverpool ONE on a sunny day! :)

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02 Jul 2014 23:22:32
Anyone think Borini coming back and The Southampton boys are the Suarez replacements?

Just throwing it out there. I mean we are told LFC were fully aware of his intention to leave.

If BR is allowed all the funds, big if. FSG is a business, so fair enough. I think £50m will go toward CB, LB, GK and some youth players, new contracts on top of what's already in.

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03 Jul 2014 00:38:27
I have literally no idea about finances but say 30 million plus Sanchez around that figure. That's atleast lambert and lallana mostly paid for. Can hopefully a cb and a lb will come to around 40/50 million then we have players to sell? I know these figures are just guesses but that's how I see it. I can't imagine FSG are going to go over the fair play rules. Well I bloody hope not

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03 Jul 2014 04:55:35
Red twist.

Y do u want FSG to go over the line?

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02 Jul 2014 23:18:01
AS English have been updated on the ongoing talks between Liverpool and barca and sate that Sánchez would be open to a move to Anfield, despite that he is rumoured to have a verbal agreement with Arsenal. Liverpool still believe that they can convince him.

Liverpool are willing to match and raise the Gunners' bid for the player (€25m, according to some sources) but any resulting fee would be lower such Barça and Liverpool agree on a part-exchange.

Liverpool know that Suárez is set to leave, and when does it will break the hearts of millions of their fans - which is why they are determined that his replacement must be the kind of player who will just as prolific and equally as adored back at Anfield.

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03 Jul 2014 05:00:53
We would need minimum 85-90 goals to secure CL spot next year.
And I have no idea how people are betting on Lambert and Borini to do the business.
Our Wingers and ACM might contribute to some extent. But you simply cannot blame if they couldn't.

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Really do hope you are right mate

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Harry u really are talking rubbish now. Where did u get this 85-90 goals minimum figure from? Chelsea scored 75, and finished 3rd. If we can build a solid defense like Chelsea did, we could win the title next year provided we have the players to score around 75-80 goals. Chelsea scored 26 goals less than us, yet only finished 2 points behind. Its all about having a proper balance between attack, midfield and defense. We did not have that last season, and it cost us dearly. I would rather we used the Suarez money to buy a top notch CB, LB and a winger.

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Maybe we might concede less goals Harry?

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02 Jul 2014 23:04:54
I think mignolet is overrated.

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Haha. ACE post!
Suarez.posts everywhere and you post mignolet is overrated. Quailty haha

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I don't think anyone rates him. Personally, i'd like to see us bring in a new keeper, but can't see that happening since he only arrived last summer.

Red Rum

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03 Jul 2014 03:19:33
Don't assume red rum. I think he's got some improvements to make, but I do rate him highly.

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He is under a lot of pressure so hopefully he gets his act together

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Seriously? He's a top keeper. He has his weaknesses such as coming for crosses but his shot-stopping is exceptional

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Good shot stopper.
Needs to work on distribution and command of area.
This continental obsession with fisting everything (excuse the pun) needs to be curbed. Catch the ball and relieve the pressure on your defenders.

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03 Jul 2014 08:34:12
I'm with you tj,

Migs had a decent first season. He has a few creases to iron out but he is a promising young keeper and one I won't be clamouring for us to replace any time soon

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02 Jul 2014 21:01:59
Hi eds I posted earlier but was not put on,

i was wondering if you knew if we would push for a rb, lb and maybe a winger if Sanchez does not want to be part of any potential Suarez deal?

also when will emre can be announced officially as a lfc player some said yesterday was wrong others said today but as of yet wrong also?

and who else do you see us going for to replace Suarez?

thanks

mcarroll92

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{Ed002's Note - (a) See previous posts. (b) No idea - it is unimportant. (c) RTP.}

02 Jul 2014 19:36:39
Hi Ed002,
will Liverpool sign another striker (who?) even if Suarez stays? thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Stays no.}

02 Jul 2014 23:28:43
All the rumours about Sanchez being involved in a swap deal for suarez? Do Liverpool actually want to sign him (Sanchez) and is he willing to join lfc?

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02 Jul 2014 22:04:24
Eds can you confirm the initial offer tonight from Barca please? Also is it correct that Sanchez has distanced his self from any deal and that he doesn't want to join us?

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

02 Jul 2014 23:30:51
Yeah I have mate over and over. Seems he wants arsenal. Will see what happens suppose.

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02 Jul 2014 23:02:22
To me Sanchez is the best players available to Liverpool, it saddens me it seems he is choosing arsenal over us. I never really expected him to come to us, but choosing them over us is a blow to me. I'm not sure we will find a goal scoring winger as talented and hard working as him out there.

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There's always somebody better.
There are 6 billion people on this planet.
This is where the scouts earn their corn. With the mercenary fee from the Suarez deal we should be able to get someone who'll be able to play all season.

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02 Jul 2014 23:42:23
You don't need to be a scout to see the qualities of Sanchez, obviosuly there are better players, but none 'available'.

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02 Jul 2014 23:01:08
With Glen Johnson probably off to QPR. Are we really looking at an older player, the Uruguay player Peiera is it? Over our current Kelly and Flanagan?

Also, will BR receive all of the incoming money from sales to strengthen on top of the summer window budget?

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Why is Glen probably off to QPR? He won't be playing CL there and being out of contract in the summer will be very lucrative for him. It would need a bigger club and a better deal for GJ to leave I think.

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02 Jul 2014 22:57:39
I'm glad he's going to Barca though.

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I'd prefer it if he went to a team not in the champions league, but Barca are the lesser of 2 evils.

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I like Barca and is a good move for him. I don't think I could turn them down.

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02 Jul 2014 22:42:58
Edd001 sanchez is off to arsenal basically and the offer was less than Liverpools, balague has stated.Gutted, bit surprised by the decision

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I read his twitter it only says he has offers from other clubs no decision made and lfc hope to change his mind he also mentions about 4 other outcomes so he can say he was right all along unless I missed something

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Guillem Blag-all-day.

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02 Jul 2014 22:40:29
So just watched as many clips of brad smith as I possibly could and HOLY SH*T that boys good, Very good and quick too, Flanno and Sterling got an extended chance in the 1st team and got better and better the more they played. I think we should think very seriously about giving Smith a chance to make the Left Back spot his own.

Love watching this guy.

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Maybe if we could get a cheap experienced left back for 2 seasons or so, allowing smith to learn off him and play occasionally. Someone like cole, but definitely not cole.

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03 Jul 2014 06:00:15
How about someone like Enrique?

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{Ed001's Note - I think they mean someone who can listen to his team mates and work as part of a team. Rather than someone who just wanders around the field doing his own thing, resulting in the rest of the team having to cover for him constantly.}

Aly cissokho? Top class experienced LB would provide the experience and guidance for players like Smith?

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@ShaneK_LFC - poor attempt at humour there

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02 Jul 2014 22:27:06
Cheer up, everybody! So Suarez is off to Barcelona! Good luck to him and let's just focus on us from now. It's hardly a surprise as he is not the most loyal of players around and we should be pleased that we're in a position to command such a good fee for him. Remember when Owen left? He was a top striker at the time and went for £8M ish if memory serves.

It's not the end of the world by any stretch. Yes, he's a great player but we have a great team and the WC has shown you don't win things and succeed if you rely on one player. Portugal comes to mind.

At least we'll have some money to spend without breaking the club. I'm looking ahead to next season now and it'll make a nice change to see him banned and missing games in another shirt.

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02 Jul 2014 22:23:04
Just seen an oul clip of former chairman 73-1990 John smith one word is what we are about stability we don't like change for change sake.but I wonder what the highority of that great era would think of Suarez it's easy to think quickly and say they would bomb him out but this is one of the best players in the world in an era were they r thin on the ground for us, but it may well be at a point were we go r separate ways and move on as no player is bigger than the club.whatever happens I hope the fans understand the club's decision, as I can see an argument for and against him staying myself.

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He would bomb him out, but he would have signed James Rodriguez before he went to Porto.

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03 Jul 2014 10:13:46
Ken up until last week I could confidently say you never thought of signing the lad for us and from what I hear he doesn't want to go to England.

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02 Jul 2014 22:09:47
Guillem Balague "When a side says its advanced it means agreement in place. LFC might want 2 keep it quiet 2 close other deals but seems pretty close"

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02 Jul 2014 22:30:21
Were u read that mate? Does it look like straight cash offer then to you? No players involved?

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02 Jul 2014 23:09:34
I've read it now, Balague has also said that Sanchez has agreed terms with Arsenal and is not part of the deal.

Eds can you add or confirm this please?

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{Ed002's Note - Done to death.}

Final fee would probably be around £78m-£80m

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02 Jul 2014 22:09:41
Just seen an interesting stat on ssn.

Suarez and Lambert were the most influential players in the premier league. Both were involved in 43% of their teams goals last season.

Have we already bought Suarez' "like for like" replacement? ;-)

Red Rum

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02 Jul 2014 22:55:27
Suarez can't run at players the way Lambert does so there's no camparison.

Sorry mate.

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02 Jul 2014 22:05:53
I've heard negotiations with barca are going well, they offered 80 million but after much hard bargaining Ian Ayre got them down to 60

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02 Jul 2014 22:26:39
I'm not happy he could have got them down further by now.lol

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I heard it was £40 million and Aspas.

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02 Jul 2014 22:46:21
But we have aspas so they r giving us r own player well done Ian.

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He didn't have time to knock them down further, his Harley was on double yellows

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02 Jul 2014 22:57:45
Lmao. Bloody brilliant rob.

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02 Jul 2014 21:22:13
Could someone enlighten me as to who has said that we want Sanchez. Maybe he wants To go to arsenal and we want someone else. People seem to be linking the transfer of Suarez with Sanchez. 2+2 does not make 5 . Leave it to the people who know what they are doing and stop making things up to sound as if you are the most important person on the planet

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02 Jul 2014 21:52:10
No Disrespect. Sanchez is the best of lots available in the market now. And He is the best to play in the free role behind Sturridge

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Evening Harry. I thought you'd retired? Glad to see you back my son. ;)

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Apparently we've made an offer for him Robbie. I don't know if that adds up to interest.

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Robbie, it was plastered on the back of the Liverpool Echo that we wanted Sanchez as part of the deal. Plus all the local journalists, who have good contacts inside the club, have been reporting it.

It's obvious they wanted him. Atm it looks like Arsenal are leading the way, but Ballague claiming Liverpool hope to convince him to come to us.

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02 Jul 2014 18:46:55
Hey eds from the players barca have offered who aside from Sanchez are Liverpool interested in and if Fabregas was still there would you want him?

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{Ed001's Note - sorry I don't know and no thanks.}

02 Jul 2014 21:52:49
We had only interest in Lallana and we have him. We don't need anymore player in the middle.

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02 Jul 2014 21:17:51
Everyone is saying that we need a direct replacement for Suarez. The way I see it it takes one inspired performance from one or more player/s to make the breakthrough and score a goal/s. (Think when Sterling got 2 vs man city, when Gerrard got those two perfect free kicks against Newcastle.)

As good as Suarez is if we can get Lallana as well as two of Shaqiri and Sanchez or Markovic/Konoplyanka then basically we are not sending tired and uninspired players out into games. We will have the luminary of being able to choose those who are really killing it in training, playing creatively and rearing to go.

When Tottenham sold Bale they were in a period of turmoil. Like when we were jumping through managers it was very confused. Now we have a system. The same way Dortmund's ethos and system means they can afford to sell their top players and new signings will be able to seamlessly be dropped in and developed we will too and the young hungry talent we attain will be better for it and develop themselves.

Now is not the time to panic. There is something special in the air at Liverpool. Brendan Rogers radiates that arrogance he speaks about. We are hungry. The days of mixing and matching players for different systems and chaotic ideologies is over.

Technical ability is valued above all else. Relax reds and let Suarez do what he wants. We support Liverpool Football Club. YNWA

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02 Jul 2014 21:41:43
Well said; I think we will reinvest the money much better than Tottenham as well. We already have with lallana, and lambert. I have concerns about can but I'm not going to judge him till he's put on the jersey. There's more to this team than luis Suarez.

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02 Jul 2014 21:58:28
Well said pal, spot on.

I see we're already being written off and he hasn't even gone yet.

Like the other lad said, more to us than him.

A quality player but who's to say someone else wouldn't have got those goals against Norwich and the like.

Many have left before him and they've all been replaced more than adequately.

I think folk will be surprised at how well we do without him.

Roll on August!!

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I hope we're not exactly like Dortmund. they've let their 2 best players go in 2 years to their bitter rivals, & fell well of the pace in the bundesliga.

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Kizzle, One of the most sensible, informed and well balanced posts I have ever seen on this site. Very well said and true. Have faith people, we are not a one man team, we have immense young talent and established proven players with quality and above all - we have conformity, unity from board to manager. An ethos, a philosophy and system that works. Liverpool are back on the map and we are here to re-establish ourselves as the best. YNWA

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I think injuries had a lot to do with it, Bobatron- particularly their defense and Gundogan.

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Couldn't agree more Kizzie. LS was always going to go this summer bite or no bite but we are using the money and our CL status to buy players that will propel the club forward. Last year we were having to accept 2nd choices and take punts on imports while padding the squad with loan signings. It worked because we finished 2nd but this summer the quality of players coming in is much higher.

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You nailed it lad.

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02 Jul 2014 21:10:15
if we are looking for a replacement for Suarez take a look at this guy. I think he is the perfect replacement

Luis Muriel goals 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmzu5ZEepY

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02 Jul 2014 22:02:38
Oh, it's that time again?

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Dustopia? "Oh it's that time again" What does that actually mean? "Oh it's that time" when fans start suggesting viable alternatives to Suarez leaving? or "Oh it's that time again" when I can only be negative and not put forward a name of a player that would suit us and solve the problem! if you have to post could you put forward someone who will solve Suarez leaving? no? thought not! so until then do us all a favor!

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02 Jul 2014 23:20:43
Except he's not a viable alternative.

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Relax lad and use the search function for Muriel situation. "It's that time" refers to his name being brought up every window for the last 3 years. I'm sure most here are familiar with his potential, but unfortunately not LFC scouts. If I have to validate a response to your post with a suggestion, I'll give it, stop looking for a single player to replace Suarez. We have been more than him and will continue to.

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02 Jul 2014 23:42:14
I suggest you doing a quick search on him via the search function.

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02 Jul 2014 23:48:05
Exactly the point, cheers FL RedFish.

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Is it Hammer-time?

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02 Jul 2014 21:09:59
. we're letting Suarez go. Does anyone feel that he just may have peaked along the lines of Torres, Owen and to a certain extent, Fowler. 80million quid is an awful lot of money. he's played a lot of football and then he's had that injury which he was rushed back from. ?

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He hasn't peaked yet, because he's been unable to play in the Champions League since he left Ajax. One year with us at the highest level and you'll really see Suarez -- unfortunately, doesn't look like we're going to get to see it. I'm watching LFC in August against AC Milan in Charlotte, NC, USA, but I suspect he'll be gone by then. I hope his replacement is playing, along with Lallana, Lambert and Can!

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02 Jul 2014 21:54:23
There's nothing wrong in moving out from a club due a reason. You would move more than 5 times in your career.

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02 Jul 2014 22:06:45
He's been good, bad and ugly.
For the sake of his family and future I hope the good will prosper and the rest will fade away.

And wherever he plays I will enjoy watching him.

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02 Jul 2014 22:08:45
I too worried about his knee injury and being rushed back due to a World Cup. It seems like Torres all over again. We will see.

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Torres was power, pace and acceleration. Suarez on the other hand. there is a lot more to his game. He will never be as affected as Torres of a knee injury I believe.

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I think he's peaked, but there's no reason to suggest he's started the decline yet.

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02 Jul 2014 21:03:40
Barca have bid close to 58 mill for Suarez as an opening offer. Sanchez is understood not interested in getting involved in any kinda swap deals.
Metro reports.

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Cheers ffor the ''info'' harry

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Unless it's 58 million barrels of oil, tell them to Foxtrot Oscar.

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02 Jul 2014 20:52:28
Just read an artical on Mr Rodgers, And apprently he's promoting Brad Smith (LeftBack age 16) as he's had a superb season. So maybe this is the reason he isn't looking so much into a left back? And also Jordan Rossiter 19

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You've got their ages the wrong way round mate. Hope yoir right though! Brad Smith is my favourite player in our academy! Think Gareth Bale who can defend :)

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Smith is 20, I would be very surprised if we didn't bring a left back in. It's almost a certainty as Enrique doesn't have a long term future here.

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02 Jul 2014 20:45:15
Could Deulofeu be involved in any deal for Suarez?

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02 Jul 2014 22:37:24
That's a great shout mate.

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Waste of space, imo. He was one of the most selfish players in the premier league last season. Also very inconsistent.

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02 Jul 2014 20:51:34
Would anybody be seriously opposed to just signing Shaquiri to replace Suarez and giving Borini and Lambert the chance to fight for a first team place? I know they are not in the same league as Suarez (who is?) but sometimes two players who really want to play fight so hard for a starting role it brings out the best in them. Take Negredo and Dzeko at City for example. Neither player is anything special but because they were made to compete and whoever was in the best form played, they bagged over 40 goals last term. Well Lambert and Borini got 25 last year between them despite playing for much worse teams than Man City!

I'm just trying to be positive. Perhaps we already have enough going forward? Sturridge, Sterling, Ibe, Borini etc are all still young and will only improve their goal tally. I'd rather use the Suarez money on a good player who suits our style (fast, direct) like Shaquiri than blow big bucks on a player like Balotelli, put it that way! Origi and Shaquiri would do me and then just invest any other monies into the rest of the team. Scoring goals is not our problem and if you take out the 44 Suarez was directly involved in we still bagged 57 goals. You need to score about 70 to get top 4. Lallana will add more goals to our midfield so we only really need to get in someone who can get about 15 and then we can just focus on conceding less!

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I completely agree.

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I think you're taking a lot of liberties with this argument in comparing Borini and Lambert to Dzeko and Negredo and then saying that the latter are not "anything special". Dzeko is a proven goalscorer who has banged goals in left right and centre in both Germany and England. He is a little bit special and in truth a better player than Borini and Lambert. The same applies to Negredo.

To ignore the daftness of this assumption I would say that whilst I wouldn't be unhappy to see both Borini and Lambert duke it out I do think that, even combined, they would struggle to reach the 31 goals Suarez achieved last season. However, I think our teams work ethic and playing for each other mentality was excellent - Lambert and Borini both have this can-do attitude in abundance. I would prefer us to get Sanchez in with the Suarez deal but, if it doesn't happen, don't mind seeing these two hard working, humble players given a chance. And if we get Shaquiri too then what a nice bonus.


p.s. strangely ironic that Suarez, banned for 4 months, will be heading to a team who should already have been banned from making any transfers.

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02 Jul 2014 21:50:05
Your post is very much optimistic and you seems a very confident man.
Ability wise most of our players are really good. Every player have proved themself over the course of time.

But Imagine the first home game against Southampton, All fired up. We start well. but then no goals scored in the first 45mts?. Things would be very nervy then.

You need a sure bet in your side, who could score or do the business

Moreover Selling Suarez to Barca, Sanchez moves to Arsenal, We might restore some pride, But I can't see any improvement in the points table.

No Offence to anyone and no mood in any argument. This is just my personal view.

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I agree with a lot of the posts you put on here EMS, but that's just a non starter. Borini is simply not good enough, championship player at best.

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I think Suarez himself would struggle to score 31 again, if I'm being honest.

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Sorry Seano. It was badly put. I didn't mean to suggest that Borini and Lambert are equivalent to Dzeko and Negredo, the comparison was merely regarding how competition can cause a player to raise their game. I'd say Lambert and Borini are both capable of 15 goals each in all competitions though. Who knows, Borini might even step up and show us the undoubted talent he has that made him the most highly rated U21 player in Italy at one point.

When I said "anything special" I simply meant world class as neither player is in the same league as say Suarez, Aguero, Ronaldo, Messi, Zlatan etc. They are just good strikers. It's good to see that I'm not the only one prepared to give guys a chance though!

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Scoring goals for two lower teams is easier than scoring for one higher team. I bet there was rarely games where negredo and dzeko were playing, but Borini played most weeks, as did lambert!

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Think although hypothetically it's not an awful idea, it would send out a message that we are a club with little little ambition to better our current position.
Say we sign Sanchez and in a press conference he claims this is a club that is going places, he believes we will win the league in the next 3 years and the Champions League in the next 5, all of a sudden clubs all over Europe are looking thinking this is the old Liverpool- they're back. We wanted Sanchez but he can see that he's joining a team moving forward. Say we have Bayern away as our first Champions League group game, they're thinking we can't overload they've got Sanchez, Sturridge and Sterling to catch us on the break.
Swap that with Rickie Lambert who I think will make a great back-up due to his love of the club but Schweinsteiger will be laughing having worked out our attack is effectively the same as that of the England team who did nothing in Brazil.
I have relatives who work in PR so feel people sometimes underestimate the importance of the appearance of a company or, in this case, a club.

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"p.s. strangely ironic that Suarez, banned for 4 months, will be heading to a team who should already have been banned from making any transfers."

Yes - rarely does a player and a club fit so well. They deserve each other.

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02 Jul 2014 20:23:29
Question ed please,

Where has the information that Sanchez does not want to come to Liverpool come from? Up until today. On this forum. I'd never heard that

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{Ed001's Note - no idea mate. Seems to be in all the papers, but no source given.}

A number of Spanish based Journos have said this and it has been echoes by a number of Journos here.

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Well best thing to do is take it with a pinch of salt like everything else they write.

Ed can you confirm that arsenal have actually bid?

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{Ed001's Note - no, they had talks but no bid.}

I only ask because someone very high up at Madrid didn't seem to agree with that sentiment

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02 Jul 2014 20:12:37
I think one of the things that most posters find so desirable in the Sanchez transfer is that he is close to Suarez in ability but also in style. He can play wide or up top very well which is hard to come by.

I like Shaquiri, Markovic and a few of the other names thrown about - my worry is they can't do this. Signing one of these players would cover our wide problem greatly but I think we'd be lacking up top especially if Sturridge picks up an injury. Lambert and Borini are good players but they don't have the dribbling ability, creativity or magic of Suarez or Sanchez. If we're being honest not many do! I think that's what we're anxious about.

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What are Borini and Lambert going to do then if not cover for an injury to Sturridge? Our system is based on a team ethic, not an individual one, Borini and Lambert work hard, they will do us proud. Realistically how many goals did Suarez score last season were he skinned a few players and scored? Wasn't many was it.

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Totally agree with you fella.
I do think Rodgers might want to switch a bit next season and play with only 1 striker. Maybe that's why we might be after "ORGY" from Belgium.
Looking at him last night for the first time I have to say I was very impressed with the young lad. He holds the ball up well, quick as anyone in our side, physical and intelligent.
If we get him then we have Borini, Lambert and Sturridge up front as goal scorers but it would be the quality of the wide forwards that would improve dramatically.
A pool of Sanchez, Sterling, Lallana, Coutinho, Ibe (back up) and one other signing and that looks brilliant.
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It would allow Brendan Rodgers flexibility to choose. Lovely.
For me, if the Sanchez deal comes off then great, if not then we would need 2 wide forwards, a central striker, a left back and a centre half with the Suarez money and a little bit of spending on our part.
If we get players for these positions then I think we are looking in really good shape going into the season.

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02 Jul 2014 19:59:02
if sanchez doesn't wanna come to Liverpool, maybe we could try for pedro?

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{Ed001's Note - I sincerely hope not.}

I'm with you there ed, I was worried that barca would sell Sanchez to arsenal then try and lower the suarez fee by palming Pedro off on us. If there's no Sanchez then we should just accept cash in my opinion.

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Barcelona have 5 players I'd want at Liverpool. Alba, Pique, Alves, Iniesta, Sanchez. I wouldn't even touch Messi or Neymar. So unless we have a serious chance of the other 4 I'd say straight cash and then use it to sign somebody else like Lavezzi or Reus.

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02 Jul 2014 20:14:59
You not impressed with him Ed?

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{Ed001's Note - not in the slightest. Average player.}

02 Jul 2014 21:02:45
Pedro is a class player ed,ask anyone who supports barca. I live in spain and have talked atblength with the spanish about him and have watchedvhim play a lot and he is seriously underated, he is a game changer and a scorer. We would be very lucky to get him.

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{Ed001's Note - I have watched him, he is average, just quick. Game changing is irrelevant in such a weak league, unless you can do it against Atletico, Athletic or Real Madrid, and he can't. I really don't care what you have heard from a few Barca fans, fans are biased.}

So glad somebody else thinks the same, i've never understood the hype around Pedro at all. Seems to me that Barca players, irrespective of ability, get mad hype just for playing for Barca. Remember Dos Santos being given huge hype, Bojan given huge hype, that Cuenca given huge hype - reality is they've done nothing once they left. Pedro is in the same mould - really hope we don't accept a deal with him involved.

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I'm with you ed001.
And he dives and he is totally unsuited for the premiership in my opinion because he is not strong enough.
Now I have said that, when he signs tomorrow I will tell you all he's Pele:)

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Well ed, I hope you will hold your hand up and admit to being wrong if he does sign. In my opinion he is outstanding, if it wasnt for the quality of iniesta and xavi he would be considered a superstar. If he comes out of their shadow he could be superb. Agree to disagree on this one.

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{Ed001's Note - no, I will admit to being wrong if he plays like an outstanding player. If it wasn't for Xavi and Iniesta he would be considered useless, it is their service that gets him goals.}

So EMS you wouldn't touch Messi or Neymar but you would stick with Lambert and Borini, really?

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A lot of Barca players are flat out average it`s nauseating. Pique, Pedro, Busquets just to mention a few. They play in a weak league where everybody is scared to face them toe to toe. Pedro, Cesc all these guys can`t hack it in the say Prem league because the other clubs will give you a game an you`ll have to earn the right to play. In Spain, they just show up as lambs for slaughter. Dare I say becos of this, I will NEVER think that Messi is the greatest player ever because he plays in a league where there is little to no competition and is yet to prove himself in other leagues just like the greats of yesteryear like Zidane, Van Basten, Ronaldo (the Greatest CF ever IMO), Maradona, and on and on and on, who had to prove themselves in multiple countries and leagues to prove they could hack it anywhere on the planet.

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I wouldn't touch Messi or Neymar because one is a cheat and the other is a bully. Lambert and Borini are hardworking team players. Jesus, I've only suggested we give them a chance as squad players to try and break into the starting line-up. It's not like I'm suggesting we go into next season with them as our only two recognised attackers!

Why are people on here so against giving players who want to play for the shirt a chance? Borini and Lambert are both very talented and even nore dedicated. Just let them have a chance!

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Ems that is a horrible shout, no messi or neymar! They might be overhyped, but they are world class, even if you might not think they are as good as some say. Messi's in the top 3 in the world if not the best.

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02 Jul 2014 23:32:58
Downing could look like a world class player with Xavi and Iniesta creating the chances. They've been propping up Messi for the past half decade. Don't get me wrong, Messi is a world class player, but Ronaldo is the best player in the world. Xavi and Iniesta pretty much won Spain past few titles, they're artists in their own right and I doubt we will see a midfield duo like them for a while; maybe Pogba and Vidal, although slightly more individual than Xavi-Iniesta, both are up their with the worlds best and learning with from the best passer in the game period, however that relationship will more than likely end this summer.

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Never heard of Pedro.

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{Ed001's Note - he is the guy that most English women have a fling with while on a foreign holiday.}

EMS, I'm not against giving players who want to play for the shirt a chance, far from it, I just think it's weird what you said about wouldn't touch Messi or Neymar and then to go on and say one is a bully and the other a cheat, so did you stop supporting Suarez the FIRST time he dived/cheated?

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02 Jul 2014 19:58:14
Edd001, do you know what's happening with texeira and kelly next season? Cheers

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{Ed001's Note - they are both set to get a chance in preseason, after that is up to them.}

I hope they do well.
Texiera is an exciting.player and.kelly has the ability to take the RB position

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When I watched kelly before his injury, he looked like the next england centreback. Brendan in interviews has said, he likes him and that it's all about taking time and not rushing him into it. I can't see why we'd let him go, having only given him a bumper contract of 4 1/2 years last year(maybe year before) to let him warm the pine, then flog him off. would be a very weird move

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02 Jul 2014 19:26:27
helo eds
we all no where suarez will be next season.question.if sanchez does not want to come to lfc then who could lfc get to fill suarz, s boots, carnt be to many top class players out there wanting to move.could we be looking to pay 50+ million for some one if a deal+player carnt be sorted

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02 Jul 2014 20:30:13
Lambert? ;-)

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Lambert, Shaqiri, Markovich & Origi would appear to be the names in the frame.

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02 Jul 2014 19:24:31
If and when Suarez is sold to Barcelona I hope he is made to put in a transfer request, so he won't pick up a loyalty bonus

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02 Jul 2014 20:13:19
That would be just perfect!
Right?

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We are voluntarily entering into negotiations to sell him though.

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02 Jul 2014 18:46:02
Is the attraction of London the only reason Sanchez would pick Arsenal over us? I might be being biased but genuinely his game is more set up for our system, we have a far more innovative and ambitious manager, better fans, atmosphere in stadium and finished above them in the league.
I guess they've got more Champions League experience as a squad but is that important?

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There are a number of reasons why he would prefer Arsenal to Liverpool. Apart from the London factor he might see Liverpool as a risk a one season wonder, where as Arsenal are long established in qualifying for the champions league.

Then we have the two manages one with years of experience working with top players, the other who's still young and fair to say still largely unproven.

When you put it all together it's a bit of a brainer why he would prefer Arsenal.

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02 Jul 2014 20:14:46
I think you're forgetting the obvious reason.

We are selling our best player! Potential new players don't like to see that, generally.

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And yet we have one team who consistently bottles it every season and another which plays the game without fear.

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Arsenal can also pay him more money than us as well - that is usually a pretty significant factor.

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Seano, we'd offer most of Suarez's £180,000 p/w whilst Arsenal have a very strict wage budget which they only broke away from with Ozil

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02 Jul 2014 18:16:14
Hey eds, how are you holding up - things are getting hot, eh?

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{Ed001's Note - well they are hot out here, yes.}

02 Jul 2014 18:11:31
Why would a player prefer Arsenal to Liverpool?

I can't work this one out.

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02 Jul 2014 20:17:12
One potential reason is we are selling our best player.

Now, we all know why he's being sold but it doesn't change the fact we're losing our best player.

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The biting incident is a great thing for Liverpool because it gives folk like you reason to believe that he wouldn't have been sold to a bigger club anyway.

He would have though.

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Personally I do not get why you'd prefer any club in the world to Liverpool. but that is just me. I do however have friends who thinks otherwhise and maybe Sanches too, have different preferences than the two of us Pirlo.

However, trying to look objectively at it, how hard it might be. I maybe see how he could prefer going to Arsenal. They have the more well-known names, they've consistanly been in the Champions League, their manager is more high profile than ours, they have a brand new stadium with greather capacity than ours and it is London.

He might look at the fact that we've been out of the CL for quite a few years, that we have just returned and are now selling our best player and biggest profile.

Hopefully he watched a bit of PL football last season - who wouldn't be convinced after watching Liverpool this past season? Send him a DVD of the Arsenal game as soon as possible!

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Less competition at Arsenal for first team places.


:-)

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02 Jul 2014 18:03:00
Do you think Liverpool will get another striker now? If Sturridge was injured I'm not sure lambert would the best option say in a champions league match! Think he's a good player and I like him a lot, but he probably wouldn't have started if Danny got injured and Suarez was still here in the big games

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02 Jul 2014 17:51:35
I seriously cannot believe most of people on here want Suarez gone ok he's done wrong but the guy is irreplaceable as far as I'm concerned Sanchez simply is not in same class and you seem to think buy 3 or 4 players to replace him but we can't play 3 or 4 at same time so I for one hope he knuckles down and does stay

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He wants out though mate.thats why he bit chiellini.best player I've seen in a red shirt but he's a gobrubbish of a person.hes treated the lfc fans an club terrible.£40 mill an Sanchez and maybe tello or Pedro then ide be happy!

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Serious question- Why do you think Suarez irreplaceable?

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He's tried numerous times to leave us and has brought our club into disrepute again and again. I've loved watching him play and defended him with every incident he's been involved in. That he has shown such continuous, bad respect to our club and its supporters is unacceptable - Irrespective of his talents he should not remain any longer.

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Then you must have been asleep, on a long trip or in a trance this whole time because the eds have been saying that he has been looking to move for ages regardless of the "I want to stay" quotes he`s been making. He`s going because we (the club and many fans) are fed up w/ his atrocities and it`s time for this farce to end for good.

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You're a Suarez denier peanut.

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If King Kenny was not irreplaceable then Suarez certainly isn't.

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02 Jul 2014 17:36:20
To take our minds off the transfer banter, I thought I'd start a new thread. Which family top flight players, past or present, support Liverpool?

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02 Jul 2014 17:50:51
Robbie keane

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Rio Ferdinand to start the ball rolling. Predictive text doesn't make the topic clear but I think you get the drift!

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Arda Turan

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02 Jul 2014 19:41:24
Arda Turan.

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He is more affiliated with Fiorentina but I know that Roberto Baggio has a soft spot for Liverpool.

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02 Jul 2014 21:33:06
I heard solskaers family were all Liverpool fans, Peter Reid was a massive Liverpool fan remember seeing an interview of him saying he felt like jumping out the window when Everton won the league in the early 70s.

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{Ed001's Note - I remember Reid telling me how he had to hide behind the curtain while his mam told his dad that he had signed for Everton. He was too scared to tell his dad himself!}

Erik Meijer

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02 Jul 2014 23:37:11
Not a footballer but I think we have probably the coolest famous supporter in Samuel L Jackson.

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Gary and Phil Neville were LFC fans before they started playing seriously.(shhhhh)

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02 Jul 2014 17:21:47
Hi eds, doing a fine job as usual,

i have a few questions 1st of all we all know we have agreed a deal in principle with emre can now when will he be officially unveiled as a Liverpool player heard it was yesterday that was wrong heard it would have to wait untill today but as of yet also wrong any info would be nice.

with Sanchez wanting to move to arsenal do you see us pushing for either what we value Suarez at 70-80 million or do you see us pushing for maybe montoya to sort rb, pedro to sort wing and maybe another player plus cash for Suarez?

last of all do you think that the balloteli rumours could come to fruition obviously a great player but attitude stinks but we calmed Suarez down last season and I believe the latest bite may of been a way of forcing a move imo don't know what you think of that

thanks

mcarroll92

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea - the transfer window opened yesterday -it is of no matter when it is done. Suarez has been done to death - you need to read the posts. I have no ideas what the rumours about MB are - but he has been dealt with before. Try the search engine.}

02 Jul 2014 17:04:39
Hi eds, any info on these two young lads from spurs?
Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - See previous answer by Ed001.}

02 Jul 2014 16:55:16
Hi EDs, Can you confirm if Suarez has a release clause in his Liverpool contract. Contradicting reports from different sources. If so, are you aware of how much it is? Thx.

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{Ed002's Note - There is a release clause in his contract - but we are not going to discuss how much it is. I should say there are actually two release clauses. They are not going to be relevant to the negotiations.}

Is one regarding English teams and another for certain Spanish sides?

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{Ed002's Note - As I said - it is unimportant.}

02 Jul 2014 16:56:59
I think this will add much fire to the Suarez and Sanchez deal. People qouting figures and stats, I am making letters here please don't shoot.
Letter stats: Both players have the same last two letters in their first name "i-s" and the same first letter "s" and last two letters "ez" in their surname. So hopefully Sanchez will be on the same wavelength as Suarez last season. Cheers.

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02 Jul 2014 17:53:40
Is that you Harry?
Lol!!

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If given the same number, most people can just try and make the 'uar' look like a 'anch', and they can keep their old Suarez shirts.

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02 Jul 2014 16:56:46
Carillion has been chosen as Liverpool FC's preferred bidder for the £75m expansion of its Anfield stadium.


The long-touted make-over will increase the ground's capacity to almost 59,000, making it the third largest club stadium in the country.

Construction is expected to start later this year and take 20 months, including work on surrounding public land.

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02 Jul 2014 16:40:18
Is Lawrence Vigouroux to Liverpool true? A replacement for Brad Jones?

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He's a youth team player Spurs let go. He won't be ready for 1st team yet but did work with Inglethorpe before apparently

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02 Jul 2014 16:06:17
Ed001 & Ed002. Could you please share your thoughts on this thought I've had. Whether Suarez leaving is a positive or negative when negotiating to sign quality players.

What appeal will LFC have on potential top players we seem to be linked to, Sanchez, Shaqiri, Lovren, Markovic etc following the sale of Suarez?

Would you think LFC would be seen as a selling club, losing a player I'm sure they'd rather play with and a reduction in hope of titles looking at what the competition are signing

Or would it appeal more? Their chance to replace and take on the support of the Kop as many opposing players have seen and heard? More playing time?

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{Ed001's Note - it really depends on the player mate. Some will see it as an opportunity, others will see it as a place to avoid.}

02 Jul 2014 16:05:22
Ian rush is 100% certain that Luis Suarez isn't going anywhere!

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02 Jul 2014 16:22:30
Really? Why would he say that Ed? Is he living in denial.

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{Ed001's Note - it might well be his opinion.}

02 Jul 2014 16:37:51
Yes just come across that and strange it hasn't had a bigger headline as it's from such a reputable source?
Really don't know what I'd prefer now. Sanchez is the only player that could part ease the sale of Suarez in my eyes.
Should know something soon hopefully so the club can crack on with transfer plans.

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02 Jul 2014 16:46:47
To be fair I thought this time last year without doubt he was gone and as far I see Liverpool have strengthened their hand with him signing new deal and his unbelieveable form.

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Isn't it a Zoo magazine interview. Could it have been conducted before the bite?

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If he's not going, why is Ayre wasting his day going to London?

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Why do people think ex-players know what's happening with transfers? These are multi-million pound negotiations. Loose lips sink ships. You don't go around leaking important information to people who are completely uninvolved in the process.
I know an ex-player from Rushies era, won many championships for us and regularly gets me tickets etc. He talks about rumours too but when push comes to shove he admits it's all hearsay.
Rushy could be right, he could be wrong, same as any other rumour.

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02 Jul 2014 15:50:38
I'll bet you Richards joins.

He'll have to take a wage drop anyway.

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Good utility player but bad attitude and high wages.

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02 Jul 2014 18:15:22
Many people said the same about Sturridge.

He's better than Johnson and apparently good mates with Sturridge.

Get him fit and playing and he's as good as anyone at that position in the Premier League.

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Kelp Martin Kelly company in the injury ward

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02 Jul 2014 19:43:39
the main problem is his injury history. He makes Martin Kelly look like Superman.

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He`s useless, overpaid and overated. period. He should stay exactly where he is.

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02 Jul 2014 23:43:18
In truth though you can't compare Richards to Sturridge. Sturridge never had a bad attitude, he was just an English kid in 2 mega rich clubs. His Bolton stint totally proves that attitude wasn't a problem, he could have easily seen the move as beneath him. Richards fell victim to his own hype. The only thing bigger than his ego is the US deficit. and even then.

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02 Jul 2014 15:47:36
I would be thrilled if Sanchez was part of the Suarez deal but fact is that the player will decide where he wants to play next. If it does not happen then we move on to our next target.

I think the Suarez deal is going to drag on for a while. Barcelona like to throw their weight around but FSG are not going to be taken for persons. One thing is for sure though, Suarez will not play for Liverpool again.

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Nothing is for sure mate and if reports are true that Sanchez is not interested in a move to Liverpool then it will become interesting as I just don't see Barcelona paying £80 Million GBP it will require to get Suarez.

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Barcelona will not pay 'the full amount' whatever the fee may be. Most likely payment terms will be arranged with an up front payment of x amount and the rest over a certain period of time.

If a player like Sanchez does join LFC then that would most probably reduce Suarez's transfer fee considerably.

If LFC still want their revenue from sponsors to increase then it would be advisable to make sure Suarez is not seen in a red shirt again.

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02 Jul 2014 15:31:59
Has anyone got any info on Kevin Stewert? Young lad from Spurs who's just joined us?

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Central defender aged 20. Released by spurs and well known to inglethorpe. Also signed a goalkeeper from spurs

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02 Jul 2014 15:26:13
Hey Eds,
Was scrolling through ssn just now and saw that we have snapped up Kevin Stewart from Spurs.
You know anything about the lad?
To be honest, I've never heard from him. Just wanted a bit of insight on the player.
Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - not a lot other than him being a defender and very highly rated by them.}

Cant be that highly rated that they declined to offer him a contract though.

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{Ed001's Note - I meant by them as in our youth staff - as in Alex Inglethorpe.}

Guessing because he's a Liverpool fan & would be cheap & decent he's probably going to pad out our u21s that have lost 2 centre backs & if the others fancy a loan he can play for them

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02 Jul 2014 13:03:17
Ed001, now that the lallana deal is finally wrapped up. What was the reason it wasn't tied up before the World Cup? I vaguely remember someone mentioning the offer was too low. But it seems like as soon as the World Cup was over, the deal ran smoothly straight away. So did we offer more money? Or was the original hold up not actually money?

Thanks.
P.s I'm not asking for announts of money involved, I know it's not spoke about on here

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{Ed001's Note - he asked for the move to be made, forced it through. There were a few issues regarding non-contractual bonuses that had been promised by Cortese which weren't adhered to by the club. Understandably, as the club had found that he was putting them in a sticky financial situation which would have required a large cash injection from the owners. It upset the players, some have understood and just got on with it, a number have been unsettled and felt it was a sign the club were lacking ambition, as they were reigning in spending. Lallana was unsettled and wanted the chance to play in Europe, so he forced the club's hand and a deal was made.}

02 Jul 2014 13:51:05
Edd002, on the expansion.and development to anfield .can I ask does the whole stadium get new seats, changing rooms etc.done up or is the.project just adding more seats? I really have.no clue to this

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{Ed002's Note - If you go to the club's site details will I am sure be there.}

Cheers mate

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Al, I doubt for this stage that the seating all around Anfield will change, although maybe it might be a possibility for future work, but it may be many many years down the line. I would expect maybe some of the seats in the Main Stand to change as quite a few are wooden, but then again they are in good condition still.

They are meant to be changing the tunnel (which I don't agree with at all, and with the outside of the Main Stand changing, I would think they may then change the dressing rooms and media area as they will have a lot more space to expand these, however that is just guessing work, nothing is posted on the website about it

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02 Jul 2014 16:04:50
Regardless of the type of improvements, local kids should be given an opportunity to attend and some sort of boys pen (or politically corrected 'kids pen') should be included.

It seems unfair that many kids dreams and aspirations of attending a football match to watch their hero's relies heavily on the financial circumstances of their families.

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02 Jul 2014 13:49:49
A questions for the Eds and apologies if this is a silly question, but just wondered if you have any ideas why Sanchez may not be interested in a move to Liverpool as part of the Suarez deal?

We finished 2nd last season, Play attractive attacking football, scored over 100 goals and now offer Champions league football.

What do you think might scupper his interest in us?

Thanks in advance

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{Ed002's Note - It is up to him to decide where he wants to play.}

02 Jul 2014 14:16:51
Just have to keep our fingers and toes crossed then!. Would go someway towards softening the blow of losing 20-30 goals a season. Thanks for the reply bud

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The only things I can think of are:

1.) London lifestyle.
2.) Clubs like Arsenal, although they finished lower in the table, consistently are in the Champions League. LFC could be seen as having one great season on the back of a few years of mediocrity and thus are more of a gamble.
3.) It's grim up North (I live in Manchester and can confirm it's constantly grim here, maybe due to countless United fans though?)
4.) Maybe world class players don't want to play for a relatively new manager at a big team such as Rodgers, at Arsenal you've got a household name in Wenger who is 'experienced' and has won many trophies.
5.) Other clubs may offer more wages.

Let me just say, these aren't my opinions, I'm just trying to see it from another side.

JFT 96

JP

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Grim up north mate, well he could always live here in sunny blackpool and commute everyday ;)

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02 Jul 2014 14:51:29
Fair enough comments JP, A lot of those points make sense, and to be honest you can kind of understand it but hopefully we can sell him on the project moving forward!. Like I said just got to keep everything crossed on this one!

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Yep, spot on Danski, I've got all fingers and toes crossed for Sanchez! I reckon Ayre should throw Sanchez a picture of Abbey Clancy and tell him she's a 5 out of 10 as far as scouse berds go, I bet he'd be up like a shot then (. maybe).

JFT 96

JP

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02 Jul 2014 15:31:04
We play in probably the most competetive league as far as qualifying for europe is concerned and especially winning it, if he comes it will mean he is comming because the league player of the year has left, the top scorer in the league and the player who made most assists for us, and despite missing games through suspension almost compensated for some serious deffensive flaws over a season.
So if I was a top player with lots of options I would give great thought to which team is the best bet for sustained european qualification and title chances to.
Terrible person, but massive loss as a player.
That said if our deffence improves this year, I believe Borrini, Lambert and Lallana will add chances and goals, and I expect other players to improve their tallies this year. that's my opinion, it's now upto Rodgers to convince his possible targets.

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If Sanchez isn't part of the deal, then LFC will want the monies up front (not staggered payments). If Barca don't meet our demands, then it's no deal. Additionally, LFC will not allow Suarez to leave unless we have a ready replacement, otherwise, clubs will hike the price up for anyone we go for.

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{Ed001's Note - really? You have no clue. There is no way Liverpool will expect the monies paid in full up front. Not a chance that will even be suggested.}

Thanks for the reply Ed001. Was just relaying what I had heard. Anyway, why is there no chance of this being suggested to Barca? surely LFC have every right to play hardball, just like all the other clubs seem to.

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{Ed001's Note - because no transfers are paid that way. No club plays that kind of hardball at all.}

Kash - the replacements look to be Sanchez or Shaqiri & Markovich. So the selling clubs already know the score. The future instalments from Barca (should it all get sorted) will also pay for Origi.

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02 Jul 2014 13:47:13
If we get a good deal on Suarez, would love Liverpool fc to land Sanchez, Cuadrado, Shaqiri, Rojo and Lovren to add to Lallana, Lambert and Can.

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02 Jul 2014 14:35:26
Thats 8 new faces Chris? Jesus we wernt that bad last season lol?

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02 Jul 2014 15:31:27
Chris is spot on we will need at least that many to cover extra pressure like cl r maybe Europa league particapation also players will leave and last summer there was not enough quality brought in imo.

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Look at City Desmondo, the reason they pipped us was they had a big squad.

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02 Jul 2014 13:37:53
Hello Ed.

Thanks a lot for the updates! I have a question regarding Emre Can. Can you please let us know why we have not yet made the deal official? We announced that we had agreed a deal in "principle", but we are yet to see it on the official site like how it was declared about Lallana.

Thanks in advance,

Regards, Ashish

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{Ed002's Note - The transfer window only opened yesterday - it will get done, but there is no rush.}

02 Jul 2014 13:37:12
Hi.
If suarez goes and sanchez refuses to come where would we be?
Balatelli may be a an option sure he has had his tantrums specially when dropped or subbed I feel the Liverpool way would fit him right.
And I don't think he is manipulative as the outgoing player cheers all

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We do not need Balotelli.

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02 Jul 2014 14:38:54
Getting ballatelli instead of Sanchez would be like getting tickets for oasis instead of the Beatles.

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@Tommy Irish Red - I'd say more like tickets for The Prodigy instead of The Beatles! Just my opinion though and it is all just opinions at the end of the day like

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It would be more like getting tickets for Jedward

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02 Jul 2014 21:37:48
Maybe like getting a ticket for the nirvana concert in Eire 1994 which I did.

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02 Jul 2014 13:31:34
Hi eds the inderpendant are claiming Liverpool will now move for shaqiri, how do u see this transfer panning out. Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - We have known of Liverpool interest for a while.}

02 Jul 2014 13:15:17
Hope ballotelli rumours are lazy journalism . he's not a team player . Sturridge and him up top I don't think would work . That origi lad looked good last night and he can play off another striker and thread a ball n one 2 etc

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02 Jul 2014 13:14:36
Also Eds,

I know this is a wild shot especially with Lallana in but sure I seen interest a while back about us being interested in Barkley,

A Player I would love to join Liverpool but can't see it - Any news on him going anywhere this summer?

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Not to Liverpool.}

I think if he goes anywhere soon, it will be Chelsea or possibly United. Next year we might be in with a shout (if we are playing the same attractive football) but if he improves as expected then he may get on the RM or Barca radars too.

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02 Jul 2014 13:05:12
hello eds/reds sanchez doesn want to play for Liverpool not 1 bit as much as we want him. so how do you think this will effect the deal.has barce got 80mil lying around r do you think Liverpool will settle for maybe pedro'if he wants to sign and tello and maybe 55mil.but I know 100%sanchez doesn't want to sign and I not to sure pedro would like to sign either if thrown in the hat.thoughts plz.

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{Ed002's Note - Putting aside any numbers, Barcelona and Liverpool need to discuss what options are available for the transfer of Suarez, which may include players. Both clubs I am sure would like to include Sanchez in the deal but the player would need to agree.}

02 Jul 2014 13:49:04
Where is the "Sanchez doesn't want to play for Liverpool not 1 bit" come from? I read one of the Eds saying he (Sanchez) supported Manchester United when a kid but does that stop him from coming to Liverpool? I've seen a couple of stories that he would prefer to move to London but its not something I've heard him say

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02 Jul 2014 14:08:55
Lallana is an Everton fan and he has signed for us? Surely it depends on a lot of issues, nit jut on which team a player happens to support?

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Samp sanchez has no interest in Liverpool he never has, since his name has been linked to club and its nothing to do with as u say him been a utd supporter growing up, I would also say the eds are well aware of this as well.

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02 Jul 2014 13:02:27
Ed, can you give your personal view on betrand and do you think he will fit in the way we play. for me, I won't judge him until I see how he does in a red shirt. first time poster but a long time reader. cheers

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{Ed002's Note - He is a decent player well thought of within the game. He has played for England at all levels and is well thought of by Rodgers.}

Maybe I will be proved wrong but Bertrand (like Lovren) do not inspire me w/ confidence. I knew Lovren at Lyon for a few years and he wasn`t that good to the point that Lyon were glad to see the back of him. Bertrand fr me is not LFC quality based on what I`ve seen of him. Now maybe, BR can work to improve him and Lovren could be a great signing BUT for now, not convinced with both these guys. They can feel free to prove me wrong if we get them and they succeed.

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02 Jul 2014 12:58:49
ED001 or any other eds. What's your personal opinion of Scott Dann. I think he's better than Smalling and Jones atm. He had a good half season at palace. He played very well before his injury at birmingham (I had him as one of the best defenders in the league in 2010) and his sale to blackburn was a nightmare for him when they sold his expected partner. Do you think Woy will come calling, or stick to the names? I'd have liked Liverpool to have gone for him.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't think he is any better, he is decent, but far too dependent on who is partner is. The best centre backs can carry a weaker player alongside him, whereas he just goes to pieces if he doesn't have someone good enough alongside him. I would be very surprised if he ever got near a future England squad.}

Cheers ed001

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02 Jul 2014 13:01:08
Why do so many posters feel Enrique should stay as our first team full back. Apart from the fact that he constantly seems to get injured his defending is poor, his delivery is poor and he seems to make wrong decision in attack more often than not.
In my opinion, move him on and let's get new blood in there and hopefully Flanno can improve and be ready to step in to the full back position in a couple of years time and own that slot for many years to follow.

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02 Jul 2014 12:57:25
I'd love Sanchez and balotelli to come in if Suarez is sold, there both goal scorers and would make up for the loss of Suarez imo.

Lallana sterling Sanchez balotelli Sturridge would still be the best strike force in the league.

Come on fsg get this done!

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02 Jul 2014 13:09:34
So would I Benny, but we don't ave any interest in Balotelli and its now being said that Sanchez wants to go to Arsenal and not us. Just hope we don't end up with some of there B team.

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02 Jul 2014 13:12:18
Balotelli? Seriously man?

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02 Jul 2014 13:34:58
Hahaha get rid of one nutter then buy in Balotelli ,you must have mental health problems!

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Poor old Raheem. Best get himself off to Madrid.

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Sanchez, sterling & lallana are all attacking midfielders, we would need another striker balotelli is only 23 guys and can be one of the best around.

Sturridge got injured for 9 games in a row last season and in that time Suarez went on a mental scoring spree 16 in 11.

I'm not saying balotelli can do that but he's a lot better than having borini play 9 games on the bounce.

If not balotelli then who? Who's under 24 and as good as him?

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Sterling is an attacker in the front 3. When he plays at the tip of the diamond it's behind Sturridge & Suarez. He's not part of the midfield 3.

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02 Jul 2014 12:40:28
Edd001 yes seen your betrand.comment via search.
Ill support him.if he.comes but not convinced atall

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02 Jul 2014 13:01:59
I don't think he's any near Enrique tbh

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02 Jul 2014 12:15:30
Does anybody feel that we should have gone in for Ryan Gauld? He has obvious quality and considering his fee and age, fits the FSG policy perfectly. Low-risk at 3m and even though I feel Sporting will be a good club for him, surely he would have preferred to move to Liverpool with no language barrier. Have we ever shown any interest or had him watched Eds? Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}

Are you.joking?
I mentioned him.ages ago. he's a terrific player and to.be.honest i'm glad a.young British player has decided to go oversees to further his career

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02 Jul 2014 12:48:43
We have plenty of youngsters coming through. I see no reason to go for one unless he is a different type of player to that we have at the club, or he is an exceptional talent.

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He is no better than Cameron Branagan in my opinion and a very similar player at a similar age. Wouldn't have made sense buying him. We are not short of attacking midfielders. Sterling, Coutinho, Teixeira, Suso, Alberto, Branagan etc. Gauld wouldn't get a look in.

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I'm pretty sure he said in an interview last year that he would like the opportunity to play abroad to develop and experience a new culture. and I don't think there's many better places for a young, technically gifted player to be than Sporting Lisbon. As a Scot, i'm very happy he's made the move, and look forward to him developing and eventually making his way into the senior national team.

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02 Jul 2014 12:25:41
Surely the only name LFC should be turning to is James Rodriguez, we have to replace like for like and the only striker in the world displaying form similar to Suarez is James. So with the money from Luis Sale to Barca (Sad times!) we should go and get James, otherwise current strikers at the club, loanee returns and young strikers with possible potential just won't be good enough to compete in PL and CL. So I reiterate we should get Rodriguez to be in with a chance of competing for the PL and CL. YNWA justice for the 96.

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02 Jul 2014 12:39:40
James isn't a ST and has never played there. He is a winger or a number 10, Gutierrez, Ibarbo and Martinez have been Columbia's STs in the WC. Plus James is apparently valued at 45m by Monaco, I don't see where we would get that money. He wants to move to Madrid as well, like all South Americans.

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{Ed002's Note - Monaco paid €45M for Rodriguez last year and it is true that Real Madrid are looking for a deal for him and Falcao.}

02 Jul 2014 12:39:49
James Rodriguez is not a striker. He predominantly plays out wide and can play behind the main striker. I agree with you that he would be a fantastic replacement for Suarez; especially with the rumors that Sanchez does not want to come to LFC.

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James Rodriguez isn't a striker. It's nothing close to a like for like move. However I would also love him at the club. It's just not going to happen. He will replace Ronaldo at Real Madrid in about 3 years time if you ask me.

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02 Jul 2014 12:50:20
Ibarbo isn't a striker either. he plays as a wide forward for his club in Italy.

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James Rodriguez is a left winger who can drift into midfield and play as a number 10 or even on the right. He often plays a free role too for club and country as well. He was one of the standout players t the U-20 WC in 2011 alongside Oscar, Coutinho, Rodrigo (Benfica), Lamela, Iturbe, Salah and dare I say. Dani Pacheco. He`s come on since then and will only get better IMO. Quality player!

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02 Jul 2014 10:38:59
Edd001, what do you make of Bertrand as a player?
He has potential IMO but not the top LB I thought we would sign

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{Ed001's Note - I answered this question yesterday mate, I would rather not just repeat myself.}

02 Jul 2014 09:09:19
A question for Ed1 but also any other Eds or fans who choose to comment.

Do you think BR could start to move Sterling into the strikers role similar to what Wenger did for Thiery Henry? It's just a thought but I think he has the required attributes.

Thanks

Bryan

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{Ed001's Note - what would we do with Sturridge if he did that? I expect Sterling to stay as a wide forward or behind the strikers for a while yet.}

02 Jul 2014 12:23:54
I think he means sturridge alongside sterling up top. Seeing as we will have no Suarez. Lallana in behind those two.

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{Ed001's Note - that would be too similar in type.}

02 Jul 2014 12:40:20
Yes I can.

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02 Jul 2014 13:09:19
I think for once 001, I'll agree to disagree with you there. Many central partnerships have done well with similar types of players. Sturridge could naturally become the dropper off-er of the two, leaving sterling on the last shoulder. Messi started his career as a wide man before becoming a cf.

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{Ed001's Note - name a partnership that has done well with similar types of players then for me please. I really don't see what Messi has to do with anything. Especially as he doesn't play as an out and out forward anyway. At his best he plays behind strikers, hence Barca's desire to add one this summer.}

02 Jul 2014 22:05:07
Cole and yorke. Owen and fowler. Shearer and sutton. Heskey and Carew (lol)
Plenty more over the years pre 91 too I'm sure. I mention messi as he's a similar style to raheem, build wise, pace wise, they never thought he could hack it centrally. Sterling had some of his best games as a cf along side Suarez, and I believe sturridge would compliment him even more.

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{Ed001's Note - not one of those are pairs of similar players. Pointless discussion if you are going to just come up with nonsense replies like that. Messi is nothing like Sterling in any way. Even more ridiculous to compare them.}

02 Jul 2014 23:16:00
Righttttttt. Get off the high horse and accept you're wrong. Similar styled cf pairs can work. Don't be such a bigot.

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02 Jul 2014 11:19:33
Just want to say RIP to referee John Bieniewicz who was punched in the head and died when he showed a player a red card while he was officiating at a park in Michigan, Detroit.

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02 Jul 2014 11:58:30
That is soo unfortunate.

RIP.

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02 Jul 2014 10:47:28
Almost ever opinion I make seems to get a massive no-no but i'm going to try again anyway.

Going into next season our defence has to be better than last.

For me sakho has to be 1st choice in all comps, But for prem games I would like to see Kelly or illori partner him as they our both young and have plenty in the tank, however for the CL I would like toure as his partner for his experience and CL isn't as many games as PL so there would be little chance of burnout, Also personally if we are not getting Moreno then keep Enrique for LB as Bertrand is no real improvement and have flanno or smith understudy him, but have flanno at RB with wisdom and McLaughlin understudy him.

The diamond has 4 players a dm 2 cm 1 am, so Gerrard and Lucas fight it out for dm, hendo, allen, can, lallana for cm, sterling, coutinho for am that's 8 players for 4 positions

And sturridge, Borini, Lambert and?? for the forward positions.

Just my opinion reds.

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No-no

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Disagree about Enrique. Our defence will not be improved with him in it next season. Causes too many problems to the whole defence with his lack of positional skills. We need someone with more discipline.

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Massive no-no from me mate

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Enrique is not going to improve our defence next season. Flanagan was better even our of position! :)

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I agree with all except Enrique mate. Enrique is a back up at best and sadly we've no chance of selling him until he proves his fitness. Bertrand is a better player. He's not the finished article, but he's never had a proper chances alongside good players. He looked excellent when he was a regular in their U21's, and due to Ashley Cole arguably being the best left back in Premier League history, he just never got given a shot. I like him as a player, but I can see why others are sceptical.

Regarding your analysis of the centre back postions though, I think you're spot on. I'd love Lovren uf possible and then send Ilori out on loan, but I don't see Southampton selling us a third player! I also agree with your choices for right back.

Midfield wise, again I think you are and large spot on. Hopefully that missing striker is Alexis Sanchez. If Borini is happy to stay, I'd let him. He works hard and can play various positions. If he leaves though, It'd be nice to get Shaquiri (or Markovic).

If we have any money left kicking around I'd love to take a punt on a goal keeper like Keylor Navas or even just get Ochoa on a free.

In an ideal world, we'd sign Begovic, Lovren, Rodriguez, Can, Lallana, Sanchez, Shaquiri and Lambert. We don't live in a fantasy land though so I'd say your post is very realistic on the whole. Yes-yes.

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Ilori really, as a center back starter next season? Together with Sakho? Have you ever seen Ilori play? Did you watch him for Granada this past season? He is 21-ish, have played less than 30 first team league games in his career and haven't played any for Liverpool. He may end out as a very good player, but what makes you think he is ready to be a starter in the Premier League for one of the top teams? What qualities have you seen in him that makes you rate him above Skrtel, Toure, Agger? You most likely heard that he is quicker than C. Ronaldo. Trust me, he isn't. You may have seen a video on youtube where he looks good. You may think, wow, if he did all theese good things in 3 min, he must be awesome. Most likely those 3 min recapped all the best things he've done in his career so far. I am not slating Ilori. He could become a legend - I have no idea. But he have to earn it and deserve it. Play his way into the team in preseason - not just get a run out because he once did a run faster than a teenage-ronaldo.

Kelly - he also have to prove his worth. And first of all he need to stay injury free before he can get a run out. Such a shame, he was well ahead of Johnson in my book before his injury - and out of position.

But considering the amount of goals we conceded last year, I really do not get the reasoning behind trowing in an unproven youngster in the equation?

Please enlighten me

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02 Jul 2014 10:43:58
Imagine, Suarez, Sturridge, Sanchez, with a little bit of Sterling behind! I can only dream :'

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On the football field or.?

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02 Jul 2014 12:07:35
Of course NOT on the football field. He mentioned Suarez.

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Fair play haha, would be unreal though, in terms of football of course!

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02 Jul 2014 10:28:17
Ed001 or any posters, just a quick question that I hope you can help me with because I'm fuming! I got back off holiday yesterday and while I was away I read Craig Bellamy's autobiography, and when recounting the riise golf club incident he commented that he hoped the press wouldn't get hold of the story, but on his first day back at Mellwood he walked in to see front page headlines of what happened on a certain person of a news paper!

Now before I go off on one about this, my question is, why under ANY circumstances would THAT paper be at our training ground? Hope you can help with a rational explanation for me because I am thinking of writing to the club about it but wanted someone such as yourself to maybe give me a logical reason why that toilet roll substitute would have been there at all!

Cheers in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - It may well simply be the phrasing used by Oliver Holt - I would not take it literally and I would not let it concern you.}

02 Jul 2014 11:07:14
Someone please tell me what is going on with ours center back positions. Ins, outs, discussions?

While I am happy with the transfers we've made so far, for me, shoring up the defense would have been high priority

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02 Jul 2014 11:20:07
I think we will make a move for Lovren once Suarez is sold.

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Think Lovren is BR's first choice. Agree with Red Raj, we will probably use the funds from Suarez sale to get Lovren, he would cost around 15 million GBP I believe.

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02 Jul 2014 10:59:50
After last nights postings about Ayre meeting Barca officials in London today, I am now awaiting the posts and pictures that Ian Ayre has infact been seen on his motorbike driving over the Pyrenees!

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02 Jul 2014 10:07:58
I will predict, if Suarez joins Barca. after the World Cup, FIFA will reduce Suarez's ban by approx 2 months
Just coincidently of coarse

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{Ed002's Note - The appeal is in the hands of Suarez and Uruguay. It is nothing to do with Liverpool or Barcelona, nor any other club that might make an offer for him.}

02 Jul 2014 11:13:32
I will predict he will bite Ramos in the el classico.

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{Ed002's Note - Is that your hope?}

02 Jul 2014 10:06:05
There are a lot of worries about us 'doing a spurs' & their problem was they didn't spend wisely, they bought an average player (lamela) to replace their star & only world class player. They had an average side that the sheer quality or bale & his goals managed to sneak them higher. We already have a better squad than they did when they sold bale. They replaced their midfeild of parker, dembele, sandro, bale & lennon which was a very good midfield parker at the time was immense him and sandro were a very effective block leaving the other 3 that had pace, power & trickery to link up with adebayor a proven goalscorer in the prem. Then they sold bale & lost their 'x-factor' none of the players they bought could do something special like he could. They replaced their good well balanced midfield unit with paulinho, lamella, Erickson & replaced adebayor with soldado a pure finisher he was basically jevavic when he was at rangers, create him a chance & watch the net bulge but create him nothing & nothing will happen. They forgot they could only play 11 players, they forgot to replace the magic, they forgot they had to play a different way. They bought well they turned an average squad into a good squad but they didn't have that one special player to change a game so they got lost in midtable & management changes. Because they weren't in the champions league they couldn't attract the player with the magic they were buying in the same shop as us but had more to spend in it. We already have a good squad with the exception of a few positions where were light. The players we bring in this summer when Suarez is gone must improve the 1st team for example we can't improve on Suarez like spurs couldn't with bale but we can get Sanchez who has that magic. Then we have to look at other positions buying 5 strikers won't replace Suarez goals because only one can be on the pitch at a time. When he's sold we need to improve our players at left back, right back, goalkeeper, a center back & a winger. Not all in the same window as it'll cause too much disruption to the side that finished 2nd in the league. We will not make the same mistakes we are a stable club whereas they were chopping & changing all the time. As long as we get the magic & improve somewhere else we'll be fine although we already have magic players like Lallana, Gerrard, Coutinho, sterling so we have a head start

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Personally I think the Spurs problem was a coaching issue. I rate AVB quite poorly as a coach to be honest. Decent guy, presents himself well, good man management skills, good eye for talent but poor coach. For me he didn't have the quality to make so many changes gel. I think the players they bought are quite good and I expect them to be much more of a force under Pochitino (apologies for Spelling) who I rate as a very good coach. Lamela for me is far from average and I think he will still be a star in the Prem. Make no mistakes about it, United, Spurs, Everton, Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City are massive threats to us. These are top sides and we need to be at our absolute best to challenge again. I do think in BR we have a fantastic coach who is improving as a manager all the time. But for me as a coach, I'm hoping his qualities show and he can help any new players to gel. I think if we can get Sanchez as part of the Suarez deal then I will look forward to next season with a lot of optimism.

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Our situation and Spurs are completely different.

We will be retaining all of the core players from last season bar Suarez and possibly Agger. If we get Sanchez we have an elite level replacement. In Lallana we have a hugely talented playmaker and we will still have a developing Coutinho. We will address CB & LB but have the benefit of Migs, Sakho having settled in and Flanagan proving he's up to the rigours of first team football. Lambert is a big improvement on Aspas and Borini light years ahead of Moses in all regards. Can gives us quality and energy in midfield. And we might also get a Shaqiri or Markovich as well. A great mix of proven PL and top quality imports without damaging the team spirit. I think we can secure top 4 spot this season (just) and hopefully make CL QFs and from that base I reckon we will be a force in all comps in another years time.

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02 Jul 2014 10:24:14
Post for LFC_Londoner:
I remember u posting a couple of days back about Liverpool and Barca delegations meeting in London on wednesday to discuss deals for Suarez and Sanchez. U got it spot on, even beat the echo to it. don't know where u get your info from, but keep it coming, and the eds might well honour u with a special page

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The first actual post about the delegation was about a week ago I believe. I have a very concrete source of information luckily. Will always post any updates that I get on here.

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02 Jul 2014 12:10:48
Fair play if he got that right.

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{Ed002's Note - Barcelona have had people in London discussing a couple of transfers with other clubs since Monday.}

Its ok Eds, some other people have good info as well, haha.

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Out of curiosity ed, who are those player?

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{Ed002's Note - Sanchez and Song.}

02 Jul 2014 14:27:12
And the other club involved Arsenal?

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{Ed002's Note - Arsenal are one of the clubs with an offer on the table for Sanchez and they have spoken with Barcelona.}

02 Jul 2014 07:22:16
Hi Eds and fellow reds.

Was reading on here a few weeks ago, and one of the Eds (not sure which one?) was saying that Messi is quite a nasty piece of work (or along those lines.) After reading what the Ed had said and now with a potential move to Barca looking more likely by the day. I was wondering if Suarez was to play for them the same way he did for us last season, would Messi be likely to spit his dummy out of the pram and demand that Suarez is to leave? After all there has been more than a few world class players to come and go in Messi's time at the club.

Cheers Danny.

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{Ed001's Note - how can we know whether they will become best mates or hate each other mate? Messi is not necessarily against playing alongside world class players, it is that he doesn't like some players. If he doesn't like Suarez, then he will have a short Barca career.}

Fair enough Ed001, thanks for the reply mate.

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02 Jul 2014 00:15:44
Hi eds just wondering which out of Moreno, Rojo, Bertrand and rodriquez do you see most likely being our new left back signing? Seeing as we failed to negotiate with seville over the money for moreno can you see us gong back for him if suarez leaving may provide the money to re- negotiate.
Cheers

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{Ed001's Note - it was about the payment terms, not, as has been reported elsewhere, the fee. We are unlikely to want to change those, but you never know. I think it is looking increasingly likely to be Bertrand, as things stand.}

I hope it is not Bertrand. Talked to a couple of my chelsea mates, and none of them think he is even good enough to be their 2nd choice left back. They also think we would be better off keeping Enrique as first choice than wasting money on Bertrand. If this turns out to be true, I hope we steer well clear of him.

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{Ed002's Note - Why not wait to see if he signs and then there can be another Liverpool player you and other fans can start a hate campaign against. Perhaps some sort of anti-Bertrand Facebook page would be a good start?}

Bertrand is not an upgrade on Enrique, so all we would be doing is adding depth rather than quality. Rodgers said he wanted to add players in key areas that can go into the first 11. It looks like last summer over again.

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Enrique hardly played last year, so surely Bertrand would be an upgrade on that? I have to assume that a lot of people have flip-flopped on Bertrand fairly recently, as when he was first linked a while back a LOT more people seemed to be quite happy about it. Give the lad a chance if he signs.

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If Suarez is sold, do you think we could then agree to the payment terms that Seville are after? Could we offer more money upfront?

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{Ed002's Note - I really don't see it happening.}

02 Jul 2014 09:14:42
Also, I don't think we'll struggle as much as Spurs did with selling our best player and replacing him with several other players. What BR has done is introduce a systemic method of playing where he has a system and players slot into a position for the team when picked. I did not see this at Spurs. I believe the system is embedded enough now that swapping one player out and putting one or 2 others in will not effect the performances or style of play

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The reality is than no EPL team can loose a 30 goal striker and not be effected
The lose of Suarez ( who IS the best player in the EPL ) would be a major blow to LFC
We will see how good Brenden is next season if he goes
Remember Stevie G said Suarez is the best player he has ever played with
He is at least, as good as King Kenny IMHO

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02 Jul 2014 00:11:57
Ed not football relegated
Why do you call yourselfs eds0001 and0002
We're do you get your rumors from

Thanks much appreciated

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{Ed001's Note - just to make it easier for people to tell us apart. There was no real meaning, we just decided to go with that to make it easier for people to tell us apart from the posters.}

02 Jul 2014 12:44:24
It is a pre-requisite for being an Editor on the Football-Rumors site. They all have names like Edward, Edwina, Edmund, Edna, Edwin, Elofobi etc.

The rumors are made at a factory near Ilford.

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{Ed002's Note - We took the name Ed from our collective hero - Mr Ed - you may know him better as Bamboo Harvester. He. like me has an appreciation society on Facebook (tinyurl.com/c6j7t2m) and we were all Facebook members who used to hang out together talking Mr Ed. Eventually Ed001 came up with the idea of starting this site for the purpose of exploitation and as a means of raising considerable amounts of cash toward our main aim. It is a first, but significant, step toward world domination.}

02 Jul 2014 19:35:32
Well Ed002, you said a couple of years back that you were named after the edamame bean because Ed001's wife was Japanese. That was a lovely, heartwarming story. But time moves on, doesn't it, and now it seems it's all about money, fame and power. No wonder the fans get disillusioned.

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{Ed001's Note - Gordon Strachan was right mate, except he forgot to say that it is not just football that is all about winning. Or was that Charlie Sheen that said it?}

01 Jul 2014 23:08:17
Hey eds!

Both Liverpool Echo and The Telegraph are reporting that Ian Ayre and Barcelona officials will start negotiations for Suarez tomorrow and that Sanchez is a vital cog to make a deal happen! Do you reckon that Sanchez would be open to a move to us if Barca agrees to it?

Cheers, Scouserseb

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{Ed001's Note - no idea, sorry. I don't see why he wouldn't be, there are only two things I can think of that are likely to stop him, one wanting to live in London, for some unknown reason. Or two not wanting to play for Liverpool as he was a Man Utd supporter as a boy. Personally, I wouldn't expect either of those to stop him, but you can never tell what someone else thinks.}

01 Jul 2014 22:55:01
Hi eds was wandering do clubs sometimes create links for other players/ rumours for someone. I mean if Liverpool for example where after a goalkeeper let's say begovic and they could agree a fee with Stoke, would someone close to the club give journalists a fake lead to them turning there attentions to let's say vorm, this way stoke might be willing to reduce there valuation of him as they might lose out money wise

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{Ed001's Note - no.}

02 Jul 2014 08:31:26
Good morning everyone. Just remember for those moaning about the lallana fee. Fellaini cost more. Happy Wednesday!

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01 Jul 2014 21:38:41
I'm not one for the oul world cup fever but one player that I don't think has got enough credit has been jermaine Jones. I actually haven't ever seen/ noticed him before but seems like a Jordan Henderson /yaya toure type player. are club's interested in him or have clubs been watching him?. and if ed001 or 2 has seen him play has he impressed you at this world cup or at club level?

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{Ed001's Note - he is 30+ mate.}

I thought he played very well too, looked wrecked for the 2nd half yesterday but picked up again in extra time, very good tournament for him.

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02 Jul 2014 07:22:25
With Suarez's departure now all but confirmed, who are the list of viable and interested replacements?

Please don't tell me it will just be the young Belgium lad from Lille.

Hope Ayre takes a leaf out of Spurs book and play hard ball to get as much £££ as we possibly can.

Thanks

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02 Jul 2014 09:27:44
I don't see how his departure is all but confirmed. There is a very good chance he will leave now that LFC want him out.

The media has linked us to a number of players, not necessarily as a straight forward replacement for Suarez, but perhaps an addition of 2 players to compliment his lose.

1. Divock Origi
2. Lazar Markovic
3. Alexis Sanchez
4. Xherdan Shaqiri

The above 4 are the players now being linked and I won't be surprised if we say end up getting Origi AND Shaqiri as an example.

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Ian Ayre should only be allowed to deal with franchise deals like Krispy Kreme or whatever he does.

Anyone remember our previous transfer windows with him?

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This window is going great so far, why not try the idea of backing him, instead of having a go?

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Balotelli, Shaqiri, Origi sounds like a plan. That's £55m - £60m of talent

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01 Jul 2014 20:55:14
Hi eds, with the summer we had last year with suarez wanting to leave I read a lot about Gerrard speaking to him to all the time. I remember Gerrard saying he told suarez not to go to arsenal and hold out for a move to barca or Madrid in a few years time. I was wondering does anyone know how Gerrard or any of the players feels about what's going on now. Ta andy

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{Ed001's Note - I am quite sure they all expected it mate, but it is not something I have asked about, sorry.}

02 Jul 2014 07:08:12
Not Liverpool related but just wanted to say what a performance by USA tonight, a joy to watch, really felt for them when they went out.

Hope you're proud of the boys Ed002, they were superb this evening.

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Totally agree man. They were amazing and have been all World Cup, thought Belgium turned it on too like. Great game.

The USA fans were great too. Think they might be influenced by us? We'll show them how to party again on this next US tour

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02 Jul 2014 04:40:20
my thought is that if Alexis doesn't want to go to Liverpool ask for Pedro instead and get another striker to partner sturridge, for me it would be bony, cavani or lukaku.rest of money and sales for the targets that we already know

any opinion eds? r u fellow reds!

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02 Jul 2014 09:30:51
My opinion of Pedro is very low, like that of Tello. I don't think he is anything special; a decent player but he will perhaps struggle in the PL.

I wouldn't go for Bony, Cavani or Lukaku either. They are all No.9's and we already have 3 of them in Sturridge, Lambert and Borini. I rather we go for a versatile striker/wide player. We have been linked with Shaqiri and Markovic.

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Agree with Pedro mate. I really like Sanchez but there is something that impresses me more with Pedro. If possible I would get both.

That Origi looks quality and will be a great bit of business. One for the future but could easily come of the bench now.

Imagine Ibe, Sterling and Origi in a few years? Wouldn't want to defend against them. So if Suarez does go I don't think we need to panic

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{Ed001's Note - what on earth do you like more about Pedro? He is extremely average imo, would love to know what you like about him.}

Being a bit harsh on Pedro ed001. He is no doubt a very good player, has pace and works tirelessly for the team. But would not want him at our club because of his slight frame. Just look at Aspas, bundles of skill, but even a slight breeze seems to knock him off his feet. Pedro would suffer the same fate if he did come to England. Good player, but better off staying at Barca.

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I prefer Ibe to tello and shaqiri to pedro

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I think Pedro is decent but Sanchez is a lot lot better, imo. Also Bony and Lukaku wouldn't suit the way we play I don't think and is Cavani not one of the most over-rated players around?

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@ The Real AG, I think most thought that David Silva would struggle, but he's done pretty well thus far. I've watched Pedro play a number of times, he looked decent enough. If Pedro was to come to LFC, I think he'd do well under BR.

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02 Jul 2014 11:52:54
Barca were at their very best when they had pedro in a front three with villa and messi

Hes also won international honours, sanchez is top class also though

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02 Jul 2014 12:16:53
David Silva is not a similar player to Pedro and has more to his game than Pedro. He is a decent player but I will stick by my thoughts on Pedro.

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Everyone has there opinion,and eds I disagree with you remember the 6 trophies barca won? Pedro was a starter un that tome.everyone justo imaging sterling sturridge Pedro and lallana

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02 Jul 2014 02:21:55
Some banter with kit numbers:

Suarez is sold, Lambert takes Number 7
Enrique is sold, Sakho takes Number 3
Aspas sold, Sanchez is bought and takes Number 9
Assaidi is sold, Emre Can takes 11
Origi takes 17

Agger leaves and lovren is bought wearing 5 (hope this isn't the case)

Some players prefer certain numbers. Call it superstition. Daniel sturridge wears 23 for chelsea and never made the cut but wears 15 for Liverpool and bolton. Enough said!

LIVERPOOL WILL DO GREAT THIS YEAR and the players will fit the system regardless of their kit number. Brendan and co know what they are doing and we should be very excited. YNWA

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02 Jul 2014 09:31:57
When Aspas leaves, Lambert will take the number 9 I think. I cannot see Enrique leaving or many others changing their shirt numbers.

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If Lovren comes in the I hope a right sided cb leaves it would be silly to buy Sakho to help bring balance to the CBs and then sell Agger. at least if we sold Skrtel we would still have Toure, Ilori and Kelly as backup to Lovren.

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I'd give no 9 to Borini 29 just isn't his no for Liverpool not matter how much its means to him, unless we sign Balotelli (my wish) then he would be the 9. and I would give 7 to Shaqiri and 11 to Sterling.

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How anybody can wish for Balotelli is just beyond me. Not only has he been a constant pain in the side of every club he was with (Inter, Man City, AC Milan and Italy) he also isn't any good for a team. He is lazy, not a team player and also isn't that very good. We are losing a world class player because he also has mental issues and now we have fans wishing for Balotelli. Just doesn't make sense!

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02 Jul 2014 12:17:47
Borini chose 29; he won't be taking a different number I think. you cannot just give him a number, the player has a say too.

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02 Jul 2014 00:03:59
Hi eds
I heard on tv that the young Belgium forward's club Lille is argreed a fee from Liverpool hope so as this boy looks a real talent any news, cheers

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01 Jul 2014 23:13:03
Obviously the departure of Suarez is not inevitable. It is obviously a move he has wanted and will hopefully give us the chance to strengthen a few areas. I would be very happy if we managed to sign Shaqiri and Sanchez. A front line of Sturridge, Sterling, Lambert, Shaqiri and Sanchez would be fantastic - goals everywhere. Our midfield if pretty strong anyways, with Gerrard, Henderson, Lucas, Can, Llanana, Coutinho (& Suso) .

A left back and a new CB also looks likely. It looks like we are targeting Moreno, Bertrand and Lovren. If we got Moreno and Lovren we would look pretty strong here too.

Its going to be another interesting year and transfer window. Eds, Have I missed any players out that we are interested in?

Thanks

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01 Jul 2014 23:39:36
it's looking Likely that Suarez is off and that Sanchez will come as part of the deal, as we are meeting barca officials tomorrow.
Great credit to fsg for not selling on the cheap but I'm curious as to weather you guys think we'll be stronger by selling?

Tottenham thought this and looked what happened to them,
If the echo is to be believed we will get Sanchez plus 50/60m for Suarez.

Which will give us the money to maybe complete deals for Moreno & lovren plus have Sanchez and also have a big chunk left to maybe buy another attacker.

Thoughts?

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Spurs finished one spot lower and with three points less. It's not like they went from title winners to relegation, aside from which they had managerial issues and didn't necessarily spend wisely.

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02 Jul 2014 03:29:06
Negotiations involving Sanchez as part of the deal will not be as easy as some seem to think mate. Personally think he'll end up at arsenal (although I hope I'm very wrong!)

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If we don't mess about, we could go out and sign, Lovren, Moreno, Begovic and maybe someone like Balotelli with the money from Suarez and if we get Sanchez in the deal, we'd have a brilliant side.

What would you rather, a starting eleven of :

Mignolet, Johnson, Skrtel, Sakho, Enrique, Gerrard, Henderson, Can/Coutinho, Lallana/Sterling, Sturridge, Suarez

Or

Begovic, Flannagan, Lovren, Sakho, Moreno, Gerrard, Henderson, Can/Coutinho, Sanchez, Sturridge/Balotelli, Sterling/Lallana

Am all for selling Suarez, especially after what he's done, as long as all the money is reinvested into the sqaud and we buy quality not quantity.

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Well we should be on par with arsenal as a footballing option

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I agree with Hounds. I think we'll end up with £65m cash.

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We will be significantly weaker going forward. I think if we invest the money on some decent defenders we will be ok. But out scoring teams will go out of the window. I can only see a decline from 2nd without Suarez.
I'm actually gutted because we was on the brink of something special. We where a whisker away from securing our first ever premier league trophy and only needed a few more quality players and I think we'd have smashed it this year,, and now we're selling our best player and 're-building', such a shame how all this has come about but you don't win nosh all by selling the best player in the world

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02 Jul 2014 08:20:01
Spurs didn't think they'd be stronger by selling. They hoped they would be but were ultimately in a position where really, they had to sell. The difference between us and Spurs is that in terms of attack, they had one quality player. We already have Sturridge, Suarez, Hendo and Coutinho. We have a much better base to build on.

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We won't get Sanchez plus 50/60m. It would be more likely Sanchez plus 30m.

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01 Jul 2014 23:21:37
This is random but I've been reading a few articles.

Is anybody else a little worried about what Suarez will say in his interview when he moves to Barcelona?(No one can say he's going to be a Red next season for definite)
Its a little random but he hasn't said anything to do with Liverpool over the recent weeks about the incident
I just couldn't bare him to slag us off when we've all been so supportive (Up until now)

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02 Jul 2014 05:04:39
It's like the world really revolves around one Luis Suarez.

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However he behaves it will be reciprocated by the fans.
If he is respectful, the fans will respect him.
If he is critical, he had better watch out.

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02 Jul 2014 08:02:45
I actually don't care one little bit. In my mind he's gone and that's the end of it. I support LFC not LS.

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02 Jul 2014 08:20:52
Bit of an odd concern - it's always possible but why would he? What would he say?

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02 Jul 2014 08:47:10
He won't slag the club off; don't be surprised with a couple of parting shots at the FA & media though. Spoilt Brat.

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Forget about what you can't control. Suarez will say whatever he needs to to win over the Barca fans on his arrival. I don't think he will bad mouth us but we'll have to put up with the usual about finally playing for a big team etc just like mascherano and Torres

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02 Jul 2014 09:34:06
Like I would give a sheep what he has to say after he leaves LFC.

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01 Jul 2014 23:40:22
Anyone else in the very strange frame of mind that I'm in that I don't really care if Suarez leaves?

His quality is not in doubt and it's at Liverpools peril of their future ambitions to let him leave but it gets to a stage were you have to just say enough is enough.

As long as a deal involving Sanchez was agreed I think that in itself would be enough of a silver lining for me to move on from the whole thing fairly quickly.

I'd be fascinated to hear people's opinions.

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02 Jul 2014 00:49:10
After reading one of the ed said he's an MU fan, with lots of other suitors, I don't think Sanchez will be joining us.

I also think that the club shouldn't demand too much of the fee. Just sell him and start afresh. We might struggle, especially when it comes to find a replacement. I'm sure there are lots of other decent players out there.

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Why would you not demand too much of te fee? ESPECIALLY if Sanchez isn't involved in the deal?

Every other club seems to have the amazing ability of insisting Liverpool pay the going rate(or over that rate) for their players yet Liverpool themselves should just bend over and take whatever is given to them?

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Yeah agree no longer bothered, but that is cause I'm expecting Sanchez or players of that level to come in.

We will try to attract top talent, but they will see us selling Suarez and buying Lambert.

When you see what Chelsea and Utd are buying, possibly Arsenal and the Arab City then I think we will struggle. Who will these top players see in the squad to dream of playing alongside? Gerrard? Not after the WC he had.

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Being a fan does not mean it should affect your career choice. it could, but as history have proven, it isn't always the case.

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02 Jul 2014 09:44:46
Just thoughts though. Fee wise, I fear if demand too much, we will end up still with him (4 months, it's quite long and might affect lots of things; fitness, performance, value). Just my thoughts, that's all.

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Crunch
Regardless of Gerrards performance in the WC most top players would love to play alongside him. as Adam Lallana has admitted this week
Gerrard is still a great player

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