Liverpool Banter Archive January 02 2011

 

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02 Jan 2011 23:29:43
Where is the petition if it is online what is the link?

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02 Jan 2011 23:22:27
A source a twitter who direct messaged me Jim boardman has said that whenever you read " Liverpool have made no official bid " that this shouldn't be believed because we are simply fending off interest from other clubs is this true ed? {ed's note - sometimes, yes, but sometimes it is because they have made no bid.}

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02 Jan 2011 23:16:25
Are liverpool fans dumb some are calling for benitez to come back he is the reason your in this mess he one of worst managers ive seen he was only at inter for 6 months and he even messed up their

This is the worste coment on any site ever in the history of the internet.

2 CL finals ( 1 win )
top 4 consistently barring 1st year but he prioretised CL, and last year, he lost Xabi and Aqualani was injured Lucas wasn't ready to step in to Xabi's boots.
Second in the league
FA cup winners
League cup final
Some of our best players were thanks to him
Reina
Torres
Agger
Xabi
Mascherano
Got the best out of gerrard and carra

So mate JOG ON.

RAFA to come HOME to Anfield, PLEASE RAFA/ NESV
make it happen.

UCCM

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02 Jan 2011 23:15:09
Lucas is useless, everything he does is poor. Did you not see the sitter he missed in the Bolton game? His through balls are rubbish, nearly half his tackles are fouls, and he is pushed off the ball too much. He is not the standard of player Liverpool deserve.
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i think your being unfair to lucas mate i saw yesterday when cahill took torres out of it and the lucas did the same to cahill, lookin out for his team mates which carra did for so many years we need players who will do this look out for torres casuse he gets alot of abuse in matches

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I am with you there my friend. I am old enough to remember if anyone was silly enough to go in on a LFC player then a certain Mr Tommy Smith would be doing the hunting. Jimmy Case and Souness were the same. And the poor sod on the end of the 'tackle' knew about it.

I'm not saying that Lucas is anywhere near their status but if he is showing the same passion then he gets my vote. Every time.

Frenchy.

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02 Jan 2011 23:11:39
So now that the club is not involved in a sales process and Roy's tenure is looking shaky. . Would you agree that the best short term solution is to bring Kenny back until a long term, young manager can be appointed or do you think that Hodgson should be given at least one transfer window to make his mark on the team? Personally I am torn on this issue as Kenny seems a nostalgic appointment whereas with Roy I don't think he can change his management style to the attacking football that we want. . He is an honourable guy and a decent man and I will always respect his opinion but for me he is too defensive. . I would go for Kenny under the expressed condition that it is a short term appointment and that in the future he would either groom a younger candidate to take over or be replaced and returned to a general manager role at the end of the season. . .yay or nay? {ed's note - I just think it would be impossible to remove Kenny if he didn't have a disaster. So no point naming him unless it is intended to be a long term appointment.}

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02 Jan 2011 22:59:36
Are liverpool fans dumb some are calling for benitez to come back he is the reason your in this mess he one of worst managers ive seen he was only at inter for 6 months and he even messed up their

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02 Jan 2011 22:57:37
35,000 at Anfield yesterday does not make good reading. I wouldn't blame some people for not going though. I wonder what Henry and Werner made of this? If the fans stop going because they dislike the manager and because of the awful, negative tactics then they'll have to take action. Do you think this would be a major concern for them ed? {ed's note - they are a business concern, low crowds are the worst thing that can happen for them.}

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02 Jan 2011 22:56:08
Thanks for replying to my post Ed's. I am laughing my head off at the thought of Kenny looking at the shortlist and then thinking " what the f* k" I might as well lob my hat in then if that's where we are going. Also if what you say is true (not doubting it by the way) and he was never considered for the job prior to Hodgson then do you not think that is proably the biggest insult to a liverpool legend ever? Who made that decision (purslow?). How can you say no to Kenny Daglish? {ed's note - there was a good reason he was not considered, the club was in the middle of a sales process at the time and the manager needed to be expendable.}

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02 Jan 2011 22:52:19
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We need 2 wingers left and right a left back and then a striker that is tough, big and fast, that can get kicked alot to take the blows off torres, goals would be a bonus

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02 Jan 2011 22:51:32
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HODGSON
editors, have you read that online petition against the manager? iv just read it, it is well written and the point of view put forward is very strong i couldnt find any thing that was wrong or insulting just dealing with the facts there are 17 thousand odd signatures on it now do you think the owners can dismiss this pettition or do you think they will dismiss it? bob paisleys skids {ed's note - I have to be honest, I have not looked, I would prefer Roy to go, but I just can't bring myself to sign a petition and I know I would be tempted to if I looked at it. It just doesn't feel right, does that make sense?}
ED
yes ed im the same i looked for any names i recognised and read some crazy comments from evertonians and mancs, made me smile as they are actually voting for what the lads want, propper dopes. bob paisleys skids {ed's note - I suppose we should give them thanks for that then!}

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02 Jan 2011 22:50:43
But hes a manager who has charisma and passion for footbal. I think many teams have approached him about a job but obviously he is waiting for the right opportunity to come forward. I think he would be a credible asset to us as i think Van Gaal would be. Lots of specualtion about his job at the moment. We need a proven manager Ed, the whole talk of Owen Coyle really frustartes me as at this current time we need a manager who has been there and won trophies. Thoughts Ed, and realisticly do you think he will get approached.

Adzii {ed's note - O'Neill has won nothing of any value, how is he proven? Proven to play crap football maybe or proven to be a spoilt brat that walks out on club after club when they won't put themselves in Pompey's position to sustain his demands for more and more players to sit on the bench watching. Coyle is a much more likely choice than O'Neill, though I am not convinced he will get the job, I think it will be a continental manager.}

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Thanks for your opinion Ed, although in my opinion Coyle is totally unproven and will do a great job at Bolton. . Thats it, might do a carling cup semi final or even get a place in Europe with the fair play cup. We need more experience! O'neil has that and hes avaliable, if it was up to me i would take Hiddink any day of the week, chances of that happening are nil, i think he will be at least spoken to about the job.

Adzii

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02 Jan 2011 22:49:43
Adzii {ed's note - O'Neill has won nothing of any value, how is he proven? Proven to play crap football maybe or proven to be a spoilt brat that walks out on club after club when they won't put themselves in Pompey's position to sustain his demands for more and more players to sit on the bench watching. Coyle is a much more likely choice than O'Neill, though I am not convinced he will get the job, I think it will be a continental manager.}

So ed who do you think is in pole position to get the job for the long term. I think Deschamps (because of his close relationship with Comolli) and Boas (better fit for Liverpool imo).

Lfc_ynwa {ed's note - I believe Boas was in pole position and was the most likely man to be targeted in the summer, before he signed his contract extension. Now I have no idea who is the likeliest, sorry.}

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02 Jan 2011 22:38:00
To UCCM, Torres has been lazy for 18 months? He's hardly played in the last 18months due to injury hence his performances this season maybe you should factor that into your judgements on one of the 3 WORLD CLASS PLAYERS WE HAVE GOT. I was at the Wolves game and I didn't quite catch the exact attendance but I don't think it was 45001 but too be fair I did notice 45000 people turn and look at me when I showed support for NANDO, it made feel a bit uneasy to be fair. You have got too be a blue or a manc surely if your suggesting you would have Ngog in the team before Torres. If that's the case some of our so called supporters have finally lost the plot, you are entitled to your opinion of course but jesus it's hard too have a disscussion with someone whos views are so misplaced. NANDO NANDO NANDO NANDO.

3 world class players, and you say my veiws are misplaced, with all our players at there best i count it at 4 world class players
1- Reina ( my fave player btw)
2- Gerrard
3- Torres
4- Agger

Im not saying id rather n'gog id rather torres 1st season in but everytime the balls at his feet he loses it (you can't defend that), in the games he has played in the last 18 months he's not even tryed, Torres is world class when he wants to be, Explain this to me.

Torres was brilliant first half against chelsea, ripped them apart, next game he's not ready AGAIN, HOW how can he be back to his best at chelsea, then suddenly not fully fit in the next match.

UCCM

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02 Jan 2011 22:12:49
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Right guys, im a amid Liverpool fan as im sure everyone is reading this site. I would just like to say, well done to the lads on monday. The spirit shown against Bolton was fantastic, you could see that the Torres's and the Gerrards and the Maxi's were genuinely happy when we got the three points. First time this year ive seen our team play for our manager, asa fan id like to see us get behind Roy and not be boo'ing him or chanting "hodgson for england" that isn't what liverpool is all about, we are a team, we are going through a period of change and we really need to get behind our man. We arent like all the other clubs who would jump to the band wagon and slate the team or manager, we are liverpool football club and we are meant to have the best support not just in england but in Europe. Ill be honest with you all, i don't rate him and don't think he will bring back glory days to the club but chanting and jerring will not get us anywhere. Lets not cry over spilt milk, its a game of football it obviously means alot to us all but please lets get behind the team. I have a feeling either Van Gaal or O'Neil will take the job in the summer, i know as much as you do but my gut feeling says this. Dont be suprised if you see Babel go on loan to West Ham till the summer and we may bring in Elia and Darren Bent for fire power.
What is your thoughts ed on theese points.

Adzii {ed's note - forget O'Neill, he has never been in the runining.}

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But hes a manager who has charisma and passion for footbal. I think many teams have approached him about a job but obviously he is waiting for the right opportunity to come forward. I think he would be a credible asset to us as i think Van Gaal would be. Lots of specualtion about his job at the moment. We need a proven manager Ed, the whole talk of Owen Coyle really frustartes me as at this current time we need a manager who has been there and won trophies. Thoughts Ed, and realisticly do you think he will get approached.

Adzii {ed's note - O'Neill has won nothing of any value, how is he proven? Proven to play crap football maybe or proven to be a spoilt brat that walks out on club after club when they won't put themselves in Pompey's position to sustain his demands for more and more players to sit on the bench watching. Coyle is a much more likely choice than O'Neill, though I am not convinced he will get the job, I think it will be a continental manager.}

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02 Jan 2011 22:10:35
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Wayne routledge looked the part today! If his crossing could develop he would become a class act!

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02 Jan 2011 22:07:22
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What we should be doing is looking to loan out our young players that are not getting a lot of first team games to other prem sides. Look at welbeck it has done him wonders, i say we offer pacheco to a team like bolton who play good attacking football, and loan out suso, amoo, jonjo, and wilson so they get premier league experience and if they screw up it does not hurt us. That way they are happy getting games and we are happy because they are learning and getting ready to be the new faces of this club.

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02 Jan 2011 22:04:28
To UCCM, Torres has been lazy for 18 months? He's hardly played in the last 18months due to injury hence his performances this season maybe you should factor that into your judgements on one of the 3 WORLD CLASS PLAYERS WE HAVE GOT. I was at the Wolves game and I didn't quite catch the exact attendance but I don't think it was 45001 but too be fair I did notice 45000 people turn and look at me when I showed support for NANDO, it made feel a bit uneasy to be fair. You have got too be a blue or a manc surely if your suggesting you would have Ngog in the team before Torres. If that's the case some of our so called supporters have finally lost the plot, you are entitled to your opinion of course but jesus it's hard too have a disscussion with someone whos views are so misplaced. NANDO NANDO NANDO NANDO.

Torres is a truely great player, but he hasn't put it in for us this season, never mind the last 18 months. Now this may be down to many things injury, loss of form, attitude, etc. Ngog is not a great player & was only purchased for £1 million, but at least he's putting the effort in & I think he's out scored Torres this season ( I think! ). I would think Liverpool fans would forgive plenty & they love a trier but what looks like a lack of effort on Torres part is unforgivable. I would love to get the old Torres back & terrorizing the oposition.

The Irish Rover

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02 Jan 2011 22:03:46
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Why oh why are we wasting time looking at newcastle and wigan players? I can't think of anyone in either team better than what we have currently have and certainly not of the level we should be looking at. I've seen Tiote and Enrique suggested but surely we're looking at a better class of player than that? and more central midfield players? seriously? Must do better Mr Comolli. personally i'd have thought the guys we bought in from Barca could do his job anyway. Dont trust him and i don't think i'm alone.

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02 Jan 2011 22:02:27
I would be offended but you obviously know as little as me here, Torres has been lazy for 18 months, that's what i call hiding mate, Torres a victum of his own success, what about Messi, Ronaldo, Drogba, Rooney, Villa there all great but not victums of there own success, Watch the wolves game and watch 45,000 liverpool fans BOO n'gog coming off when they wanted torres off, so that's 45,000 of US and 1 of YOU, your WRONG


Only 37000 there

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02 Jan 2011 21:58:32
C'mon boys, ffs !
We can't stop going to the match, just so RH gets the boot.
Give NESV a chance. They're not stupid. if something needs fixing, it'll get done. We got seemingly decently people to run the club, so let them do just that !
Fan power is OK but not to dictate management. That's happened at Newcastle over the last 30 years and look at the mess they've made, trying to appease the fans all the time.
Get behind the team.
KB

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02 Jan 2011 21:52:10
When you watch liverpool play the only thing we lack is defense an midfield. We don't move the ball around freely in midfield meaning the ball never gets to our strikers. Our defense is just weak. Our central defenders minus agger do not have to ability to play football but only to hoof the ball. We have more then enough strikers in our squad that are being played out of position for example Babel Kuyt Pacheco. Maybe even Jovanovic. All this negativity surrounding N'Gog i think is nonsense he has ability its just not showcased enough due to lack of flow from the midfield. Although i will admit we do need one more good striker

conswe

The only thing we need is defence and midfield that's 8 players, and we are desperate for a strike partner for torres _ llorente or aguero would be ideal

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02 Jan 2011 21:51:26
Hello Ed's. . First time poster here. . loving the site for ages! Just wanted your opinion about the whole Daglish/ Hodgson puzzle. . I was always told that they were very good friends and that Hodgson was Kenny's choice for our next manager if it was not to be Kenny himself. . Do you have any info on this subject?My opinion is that if Kenny wanted the job then Kenny gets the job but what is done is done and we should get behind the team 100%. Also I think that the reason we looked a much better side against Bolton is because he replaced "players that will do a job" with proper footballers. Aurelio in for Konchevsky and Agger in for the Greek. This added to Rodriguez coming back in meant we kept the ball better thereby creating chances for Torres and Ngog. Just one more thing. . Kuyt is by far one of the worst players to wear the red shirt in my opinion and is a symbol of how far our standards have fallen. . If the only attribute you need to be playing on the right wing for Liverpool is hard work then I want an immediate trial. . I am 33 with a beer belly and I used to smoke like a chimney but I have more ability in my belly button fluff than kuyt has in his entire body! Only my opinion and I welcome your comments. . Happy new year red men {ed's note - Roy and Kenny are friends, but Kenny never recommended him for the job, in fact Kenny put himself forward when he saw the shortlist, which included Roy. But he was told he would not even be in consideration.}

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02 Jan 2011 21:49:46
They way i would look at our first 11 is would any of our players get into the arsenal, chelsea or man utd squad.

Reina - Yes
Johnson - No
Agger - Yes
Carragher - No
Skrtel - No
Auerllio - No
Kyrgiakos - No
Babbel - No
Maxi - No
Gerrard - Possibly
Lucas - No
Meireles - No
Poulsen - No
Kuyt - No
Torres - No
Ngog - No

So there we go just my opinion posible 3 plays out of our squad would get in. See Woy ARE WE A QUALITY SIDE (NOT A CHANCE.) {ed's note - Torres and Gerrard would walk into any of those sides and they would all snap our hands off for them.}

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02 Jan 2011 21:41:21
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To UCCM, Torres has been lazy for 18 months? He's hardly played in the last 18months due to injury hence his performances this season maybe you should factor that into your judgements on one of the 3 WORLD CLASS PLAYERS WE HAVE GOT. I was at the Wolves game and I didn't quite catch the exact attendance but I don't think it was 45001 but too be fair I did notice 45000 people turn and look at me when I showed support for NANDO, it made feel a bit uneasy to be fair. You have got too be a blue or a manc surely if your suggesting you would have Ngog in the team before Torres. If that's the case some of our so called supporters have finally lost the plot, you are entitled to your opinion of course but jesus it's hard too have a disscussion with someone whos views are so misplaced. NANDO NANDO NANDO NANDO.

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02 Jan 2011 21:30:27
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Difference is that insua is better at attacking then konchesky. Neither of them can defend but insua has the potential to get better at defending. I do admit we need to sell Konchesky, Auerlio and buy a first choice lb with insua as back up. I'd be happy with that personally.
NAR
im not having that, aurilio is class he has had a lot of injuries but you can pass any type of ball to him and his control is spot on, he is a great ball player and is never ruffled he is twice the player konchesky is and insua as well, bob paisleys skids

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02 Jan 2011 21:29:59
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If we all want roy out so bad lets hit NESV were it hurts the most, their wallets if they see an empty anfield next home match they will have no choice but to fire roy, because poor attendance will kill them they will have no choice, we really run the club no matter what the owners think because without our money they are nothing.

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02 Jan 2011 21:29:50
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Its sad when people want us to lose to get roy hodgsen fired! ! ! ! !

I don't care who manages the club as long as we win! !

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02 Jan 2011 21:22:13
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HODGSON
editors, have you read that online petition against the manager? iv just read it, it is well written and the point of view put forward is very strong i couldnt find any thing that was wrong or insulting just dealing with the facts there are 17 thousand odd signatures on it now do you think the owners can dismiss this pettition or do you think they will dismiss it? bob paisleys skids {ed's note - I have to be honest, I have not looked, I would prefer Roy to go, but I just can't bring myself to sign a petition and I know I would be tempted to if I looked at it. It just doesn't feel right, does that make sense?}

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02 Jan 2011 21:14:24
I'd love to be as fat and as bad a footballer as Insua.

Can't be bad can it.

BloodRedFatt

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02 Jan 2011 21:01:16
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When you watch liverpool play the only thing we lack is defense an midfield. We don't move the ball around freely in midfield meaning the ball never gets to our strikers. Our defense is just weak. Our central defenders minus agger do not have to ability to play football but only to hoof the ball. We have more then enough strikers in our squad that are being played out of position for example Babel Kuyt Pacheco. Maybe even Jovanovic. All this negativity surrounding N'Gog i think is nonsense he has ability its just not showcased enough due to lack of flow from the midfield. Although i will admit we do need one more good striker

conswe

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02 Jan 2011 20:58:21
02 Jan 2011 20:07:49
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Hope to god we will not sign carlton cole anyone see his miss yesterday on match of the day the guys a joke
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Yes i saw it and i also seen the Lucas miss worse if anything, every striker will miss his fair share of sitters Cole would be a good addition as a squad player.

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02 Jan 2011 20:54:29
Just from 90's onwards:

Gk - reina
Rb - jones
Lb - riise
Cb - hyppia
Cb - agger
Rm - mcmanaman
Cm - gerrard
Cm - alonso
Lm - barnes
At - fowler
At - Torres

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02 Jan 2011 20:46:24
Difference is that insua is better at attacking then konchesky. Neither of them can defend but insua has the potential to get better at defending. I do admit we need to sell Konchesky, Auerlio and buy a first choice lb with insua as back up. I'd be happy with that personally.

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How the f. k could you even consider entertaining that fat, lard arsed, look at the ground when runing, ball watching, no positional sense, useless get ensua. Worst full back i've ever seen. The pundits were even to embaressed to comment on how bad he was last season. He'd be better of selling burgers so he could go home at the end of a shift with some left overs.

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02 Jan 2011 20:40:15
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OK! Here's my issue. throughout history, we (liverpool) have been a force to be reckoned with. we held 18 league titles and 5 european cups. so why is it, we are now lead by a manager who let's face it, took a job at a poor time, and couldn't get out of the rut, the first set of yanks put us in. thankfully though, we have now been brought by owners who understand that liverpool is a club who thrive on their fans, nothing like a european night in the kop.

the extent of Hicks and Gillettes damage is done, they've now gone.

So NESV, if you're reading this, please look for a manger who can install confidence in our team, and have us playing football like the treble winning liverpool.

in order for this to be achieved i believe by janurary we need to replace the roy. someone needs to come in who is goinig to re install confidence in to the team, and have them playing swift, fluent no nonsence (aimed at maxi and his diving tendancies) attacking football. my perfect case scenario would be hiddink, however he's tied to turkey. and so i'm not too sure who could really do the job.

Also, by janurary, we need a second striker, one capable of the premiership. someone who is going to chase the ball, and make a genuine nuesence (sp) of himself, someone like kevin doyle. who can run with the ball, score and also run off of torres, however if we have the money then i would recommend gervinho. he plays attacking, quick football, and he's not afraid to run at defenders, much like torres when he's on top of his game. I would also like to see some out and out wingers. using a second striker as a right winger isn't working. Use kelly at RB (he's better than johnson defensively) and let johnson try the right wing. he can get the ball to the bi-line with ease. I also think that berrera (west ham) is worth a cheeky small bid (£3m) for the simple reason that he is rapid on the wing, and could cause all sorts of problems to a tired left back.

SORRY ABOUT THER ESSAY, I'M JUST DEEPLY WORRIED ABOUT THE POSITION WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING QUICKLY, WE AREN'T GOING TO HOLD ON TO KEY PLAYERS.


And roy for F* * sake play marquee players in their correct positions, joe cole isn't a left midfielder, and can create magic in the ACM role, with confidence.

thankyou for your time.

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02 Jan 2011 20:40:03
Just to pick up on a couple of posts by UCCM. If you slag off Ngog and Lucas and not Torres your an idiot and Lucas is a good/ very good player. With those comments you have taken cluelessness to new levels. Torres is a victim of his own success with people like you, he is so good that when his perfomances dip idiots like you cannot see that his confidence has gone which has happened to every striker in the history of football and you listen to media pr* *s like Jamie Redknapp insted of forming your own opinion, was his reaction to both goals yesterday the reaction of a man who wants out? NO. Open your eyes to players like Ngog and Lucas who hide on the pitch and who are one of a number of players who just give it too Stevie or Nando and say go ahead you do something to get us out the sh* e. Lucas as a player can be summed up in 1 clip, Newcastles 3rd goal the other month. When I am at the match I don't slag Ngog or Lucas off because I have low expectations of both players and they never let me down. So before having a go at Torres try and look at the crap around him who go missing for 90mins and are paid millions to play hide and seek.

I would be offended but you obviously know as little as me here, Torres has been lazy for 18 months, that's what i call hiding mate, Torres a victum of his own success, what about Messi, Ronaldo, Drogba, Rooney, Villa there all great but not victums of there own success, Watch the wolves game and watch 45,000 liverpool fans BOO n'gog coming off when they wanted torres off, so that's 45,000 of US and 1 of YOU, your WRONG

UCCM

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02 Jan 2011 20:39:13
Cheers ed.psv elnino again it's only so we can understand what everyone wants and maybe we might all come up with the same ideas.cheers mate.

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02 Jan 2011 20:38:23
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I personally would love to see Kenny and Kevin in the dug out. Two kings of the game, two Liverpool legends, csn't be bad. I must admit I'd be rather sceptical if Kevin Keegan ever had a job as LFC Manager, Assistant or Co Manager. Ot seems whenever things get hard he jumps ship.

I would like to see Kenny and Thommo for now and if they do well then they could save NESV some time and money and stay in charge.

After they retire I would like to see Carra and Stevie as coaches.

BloodRedMatt

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02 Jan 2011 20:37:57
Can u do a poll on the next manager? o neill , benitez, king kenny =1, 2, 3? for the vote? {ed's note - we are doing a poll page now, I just need to find five minutes to write a list of managers to vote on. It is difficult to even get five seconds right now!}

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02 Jan 2011 20:37:40
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Why don't we go for neymar and zezinho?"

I'm trying not to be too cynical here but have you ever seen these players play? Or did you just load up fm 2011 and look for the two most promising Brazilian left wingers?

i have seen neymar play a few times when i livved in brasil earlier in the year and he made robinho look worse than voronin! Trust me he would be well worth the money but i don't think he would come because of no CL

I would rather admit to scouting players on fm 11 (who have a team of houndreds of scouts and Everton pay for the privilage to have their reports on players) than make a compleat tit of myself by claiming to live somwhere and spelling it wrong! BRAZIL not BRASIL {ed's note - Brazilians spell Brazil with an S mate.}

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02 Jan 2011 20:36:19
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Would all on here just put a bit of common sense to it all. .if Roy was really going why would he be at the game today with Comolli. .I don't know what's going on but he's not leaving. .
Editor. .what's the feeling in the city with the crowd being down 7,000. .had a friend go over to the game from Cork last minute because he was told there was tickets available in the Kop. .booked flight and got 2 tickets no prob. .always hard to get tickets in the Kop {ed's note - I was speaking to me family last night about it, none of them went, unlike normal, purely because they have had enough of Roy's negative tactics.}

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02 Jan 2011 20:33:49
You may think that I am talking absolute rollocks but in the last few years there have been some spooky similarities between the football team and the rugby team I support; Liverpool and Harlequins. In 2009 Harlequins finished 2nd in the league and reached the quarter-final of the Heineken Cup (the rugby equivalent of the CL), just like Liverpool. In 2010 Harlequins finished 7th in the league, like Liverpool. In the calendar year 2010, Harlequins did not win one league game away from home, and Liverpool didn't do too much better.

However here is some good news. Yesterday Harlequins beat the team at the top of the table and who were unbeaten at home this season, Northampton, away from home. Now next weekend we are playing Man U, a team that are unbeaten and top of the table, away from home. so therefore I am predicting we will beat Man U next week!

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02 Jan 2011 20:32:41
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LFC should consider Andre Villas boas as the next manager's position. Attacking football is what we need and this guy has done it at a very young age.we just can't score enough goals and are too defence minded that's why the confidence levels are so low at lfc.
This guy can change that with attacking attractive football that lfc was known for.

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02 Jan 2011 20:31:46
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Cant help but think were going to sign utter tripe in January.

BloodRedMatt

Matt don't be writin things like this. half of these nuggets have been scouring the Bundesliga site for a Mr Utter Tripe, for the last 2 hours. . :) {ed's note - they should have looked in the French league, he plays in that. . .}

I was referring to the player in the Premier League. Think his nickname is Carlton Cole

BloodRedMatt

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02 Jan 2011 20:19:04
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Evening all, what's with the questioning of "macca", I've followed this site since last summer and can't see why maccas or the ed's would be questioned about what they know. There's obviously not going to be leaks springing up everywhere because that's not the owners way. We just have to trust the eds and the regular fans who enlighten us all. I'm hoping for some activity this window because we really need it. Time to rid of the dead wood and get some fresh talent in who actually want to wear the famous red shirt. I am at a loss as to why so many of our players have not been playing any where near their potential ( or what there wages would suggest we could expect) I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking something is really wrong at the min, and i don't just mean with Roy as the manager. Ed, what are your views on this?
Andy the red {ed's note - there are lots of reasons, poor tactics, players out of position, loss of confidence, injuries, change in formation, defensive changes, they all add up.}

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02 Jan 2011 20:15:59
Just to pick up on a couple of posts by UCCM. If you slag off Ngog and Lucas and not Torres your an idiot and Lucas is a good/ very good player. With those comments you have taken cluelessness to new levels. Torres is a victim of his own success with people like you, he is so good that when his perfomances dip idiots like you cannot see that his confidence has gone which has happened to every striker in the history of football and you listen to media pr* *s like Jamie Redknapp insted of forming your own opinion, was his reaction to both goals yesterday the reaction of a man who wants out? NO. Open your eyes to players like Ngog and Lucas who hide on the pitch and who are one of a number of players who just give it too Stevie or Nando and say go ahead you do something to get us out the sh* e. Lucas as a player can be summed up in 1 clip, Newcastles 3rd goal the other month. When I am at the match I don't slag Ngog or Lucas off because I have low expectations of both players and they never let me down. So before having a go at Torres try and look at the crap around him who go missing for 90mins and are paid millions to play hide and seek.

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02 Jan 2011 20:12:37
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First time ive posted on this site big reds fan , just think what ever is going to happen will take its natural course so the fans should just concentrate on getting anfield rocking like european nights we can still finish in top 4 anything is possible kj

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02 Jan 2011 20:07:49
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Hope to god we will not sign carlton cole anyone see his miss yesterday on match of the day the guys a joke

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02 Jan 2011 20:07:19
Not to sure about martin o'neill think it would be better going for a european manager someone with a bit of pedigree, whats o'neill done apart from a few scottish titles and anyone can win that perthetic league.

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02 Jan 2011 20:05:05
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Evening ed. psvelnino here can you try and run a vote to find out what reds fans want for there manager.for example just read someone saying they wouldn't won't coyle. my choice would be ryhkarrd because the quality football pass and move on the floor the Liverpool way, maybe put 10 names down and see what the fans say .cheers mate psvelnino {ed's note - we could do a poll I guess. I will see what I can get set up now.}

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02 Jan 2011 20:03:39
If you had a team of

Clemence
Neal
Hansen
Lawrenson
Hughes Capt
Gerrard
Souness
Alonso
Barnes
Dalglish
Torres

Now that would be a team worth watching. It was a close thing between pepe and clem I went for clem as he played with all my defenders.Emlyn played his early days at left back and he was such an inspiration you have to include him plus he scored some screamers.

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02 Jan 2011 19:58:21
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I hope we don't replace Hodgson with Owen Coyle. Bolton are having a good season but then so did Fulham last year. No one's mentioned Martin O'Neill yet. At the very least he'd help us steal a couple of decent Villa players.

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02 Jan 2011 19:54:08
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Cant help but think were going to sign utter tripe in January.

BloodRedMatt

Matt don't be writin things like this. half of these nuggets have been scouring the Bundesliga site for a Mr Utter Tripe, for the last 2 hours. . :) {ed's note - they should have looked in the French league, he plays in that.....}

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02 Jan 2011 19:46:53
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New financial fair play rule in football will end an era of high spending managers. The clubs that will flourish will be the ones with good scouting teams that can get value for money. That's where Comolli comes in
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Im not sure of Comolli he seems to be abit of a chancer! Who has used his friends in high places to get were he is, every were he has gone he has burnt his bridges when he left.By claiming he and he alone signed all the bright young stars at Arsenal and Tottenham.Yet to be convinced by him time will tell. GYRED

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02 Jan 2011 19:34:31
We may be treading water at best around mid-table, but spare a thought for Chelsea - the current champions were 5 points clear and motoring before Torres' brace started the rot that currently sees them outside the CL places. If this continues we could have another epic Liverpool vs Chelsea European night next year, just in the Europa league.

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02 Jan 2011 19:33:17
I think we should keep well away from owen coyle as possible. the only reason everyone wants him is because bolton are doing ok so he is the manager of the hour (not a Liverpool manager what so ever). Lets take our peepers else where. We are Liverpool football Club who are no longer in debt any top european manager should be jumping at the chance at managing us we should be beating them off with sticks, Hiddink And Rijkaard are my choices and obviously Dalglish until the end of the season. We have had a negative manager for too long there was Houllier, then there was refa who was also negative and then Woy (the less said about that idiot the better.

Henry if you are reading this i would like a positive manager who plays flowing attractive football and possibly one of the abov, also want us back in the champions league where we belong.

NEZZA YNWA

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02 Jan 2011 19:32:20
Cheiky Toite is this not Koncheskys mums nickname?

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02 Jan 2011 19:30:22
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I will sign any post finno61

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02 Jan 2011 19:29:54
GK Ray Clemence
LB Gerry Byrne
CB Alan Hansen
CB Sami Hyypia
RB Rob Jones
LW John Barnes
CM Steven Gerrard
CM Graeme Souness
RW Ian Callaghan
CAM Kenny Dalglish
ST Ian Rush
SUBS
GK Pepe Reina
RB Chris Lawler
CB Mark Lawrenson
LW Steve Heighway
CM Ronnie Whelan
ST Robbie Fowler
ST Fernando Torres

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02 Jan 2011 19:22:44
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If the new owners were to approach owen coyle. there is no way he wud turn us down . wudnt just be about money . be about managing one off the top 5 club teams ever. how and y wud he turn us down. another possibility wud be martin o neill. free agent at the moment and 100 times better than the cabbage roy. also really think that we should sell torres , really not the same player that he was when he first came here and doesn't look like he wants to be here . prob get 35 mil for him. one more thing i have to say is that glen johnson is wasting away if he keeps gettin played at rb. hes is not a defender . can't defend for s* te . but played on the wing , im million % sure he'll be our answer to bale.

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02 Jan 2011 19:22:27
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"Lucas is useless, everything he does is poor. Did you not see the sitter he missed in the Bolton game? His through balls are rubbish, nearly half his tackles are fouls, and he is pushed off the ball too much. He is not the standard of player Liverpool deserve."

Whoever said this only watched the highlights of the bolton game. bloody dimwits everywhere.

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02 Jan 2011 19:22:12
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Hey macca you gonna to the United game? Who else is coming to it? I can't wait you just never know with liverpool vs united

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02 Jan 2011 19:20:36
After watching him for the whole season Cheik Tiote is my number 1 target. We have no player who can break up attacks like he can hes so composed and strong top top player. !

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02 Jan 2011 19:20:35
Give Hodgson a chance. The way the players embraced him after the game show he is building relationships with them.

The club has gone downhill since Houllier & Benitez. They are both rubbish and we took forever to realise and sack them. We let them bring in all the foreign rubbish they could find (yes ok, a couple were gems) and they chased away a helluva lot of good players I wish were still here today. Fact, neither could bring us the league title which we crave. Champions League StevieG won for us.

Roy is a decent honest bloke, I think he is learning a bit as he goes, but given time will bring the club it's identity back and the players happiness back. This will lead to success. My opinion.

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02 Jan 2011 19:16:02
My all time greatest dream team would be
Clemence
Neal
Nicol
Hansen
Carragher
Gerrard
Whelan
Callaghan
Daglish
Rush
Barnes
4-3-3
have al you forgot about callaghan

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02 Jan 2011 19:14:34
My all time Liverpool dream team would be:

GK - Pepe Reina
RB - Phil Neal
LB - Steve Nicol
CB - Alan Hansen
CB - Phil Thompson
RM - Steve Heighway
LM - John Barnes
CM- Greame Souness
CM - Steven Gerrard
ST - Kenny Dalglish
ST - Robbie Fowler

Manager - Bill Shankly
Assitant - Bob Paisley

Fitness/ Tactical Coach - Francisco Ayestrayan
Attack Coach - Roy Evans
Coach - Rudolfo Borrell
Coach - Jose Segura

UCCM

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02 Jan 2011 19:14:31
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I think all the big names tht are being banded about are gunna be out of our reach only due to our current predicament with league position and possibilty of no european football i think our targets shold be ofcourse 2 wingers a forward and a midfield.

in my opinion for a
fwd- gervinho ( good pace strong player, would add sumthing different to our attack.

wingers- turan (self confessed liverpool fan would work his ass off and add sum flair to our attack sumthing we need desperatly.

a. johnson( class pplayer being wasted at city will grow even more playing week in and week out.

cm - honda/ banega( preferably honda just fr his marketable reasons alone let alone his skill and ability.

get rid of poulsen and konchesky both a waste of money and only add one thing to the club and thts wages.

we have a large amount of youth with great talent so should als focus on giving these lads sum proper game time. we all saw tht when kelly played against chelsea surrounded by regular first team players he showed his ability, wen gerrard first came into the squad he was young and surounded by talent which rubbed off on him and made him the player he is today. so its time to trust in these young lads

for a new manager i would have kk as interim manager till the end of the season and then go for van gaal

lfc4lifeynwa

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02 Jan 2011 19:10:38
Just to test this theory:

Rafa left Roy a worse squad than Houllier left Rafa.

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02 Jan 2011 19:07:02
Dear Ed ,
I have decided to write as I have the same opinion of most on here. I would like Liverpool to get a new manager that I don't really know, someone with a really cool continental type of name, maybe someone who hardly speaks the lingo. Someone who doesn't know who Tom O'Connor is.who thinks the Queen lives in Kensington, and the prime minister lives in Upper Parliament street. Someone who can fleece the Americans just as we're turning a corner. .
Or shall we just get Coyley?Young promising knowledgable Footballplaying talented Jock?

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02 Jan 2011 19:05:33
Nesv if you could just buy aguero and a decent defender get rid of the dead wood poulsen konchesky, babel lucas ngog and its possible we can make it to the promised land

If your going to slag off lucas and n'gog, and not torres then your an idiot, also a defender when we have,

Kelly
Agger
Skrtel
Ayala
Wilson
Aurelio
Insua
Johnson
Mavinga

We fine at the back, We need a winger plus promote Amoo, Pacheco, Shelvey, Eccleston to help midfield.

UCCM

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02 Jan 2011 18:56:25
02 Jan 2011 18:08:44
My All Time Liverpool Team

GK: Ray Clemence
DR: Phil Neal
DL: Alan Kennedy
DC: Jamie Carragher
DC: Alan Hansen
MC: Xabi Alonso
MC: Steven Gerrard
MR: Kenny Dalglish
ML: John Barnes
ST: Ian Rush
ST: Michael Owen

All of these players at their prime would destroy any other Greatest XI team.


NO SOUEY then your under 40 and are naming players your dad says. Nicol is twice the player of Kennedy, Lawro better than Carra. And Keegan b4 Owen {ed's note - I can't believe anyone would put Owen in, he never made Fowler's level, let alone Keegan's.}

Just take Owen out & put Souness in! King Kenny would be gutted to be playing on the right side of midfield. Who ever the original poster was needs his head tested.

The Irish Rover

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02 Jan 2011 18:56:03
Lucas is useless, everything he does is poor. Did you not see the sitter he missed in the Bolton game? His through balls are rubbish, nearly half his tackles are fouls, and he is pushed off the ball too much. He is not the standard of player Liverpool deserve.

Absolute BOLLOX, Lucas is a good player, Not world class but good to very good, Lucas is hard working also, Brave, Clever, Quite strong, He may not be a Xabi but he dosn't make many mistakes either, Plus he's still got passion for the club after all the crap he received from Liverpool fans, Im sure Bill Shankly would have worked with a player of his work rate, Comitment.

UCCM

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02 Jan 2011 18:53:17
My all time Liverpool dream team would be:

GK: Ray Clemence
DR: Phil Neal
DL: Steve Nicol
DC: Alan Hansen
DC: Mark Lawrenson
DMC: Graham Souness
AMC: Steven Gerrard
RM: Yossi Benayoun
LM: John Barnes
CF: Kenny Dalglish
ST: Fernando Torres

Just my opinion, I put Yossi in there as I believe he is the most underrated player to have ever played for us. By the way I'm 19 and my step dad never told me to put these players. It's common knowledge that Liverpool used to attract the world's finest. Now, Im not so sure, Carlton Cole? Paul Konchesky? Christian Poulsen? I just don't see out near future being so bright.

BloodRedMatt

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02 Jan 2011 18:42:47
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Cant help but think were going to sign utter tripe in January.

BloodRedMatt

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02 Jan 2011 18:37:59
Nesv if you could just buy aguero and a decent defender get rid of the dead wood poulsen konchesky, babel lucas ngog and its possible we can make it to the promised land

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02 Jan 2011 18:31:07
Are we possibly the slowest team/ squad in the premiership? ?

Reina. . .ok
Johnson. Pretty quick
Aurelio. .slow
Skrtel. . Slow
Agger. . ok
Lucas. . slow
Gerrard. quick but slowing down
Kuyt. . .super slow
Meireles. slow
Torres. . quick
Ngog. . . slow

Cole, Maxi, Carragher, Kyrgiakos, Konchesky, Poulsen. .all super slow! Jovanovic. ok, Babel. ok,

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02 Jan 2011 18:26:48
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Lucas is useless, everything he does is poor. Did you not see the sitter he missed in the Bolton game? His through balls are rubbish, nearly half his tackles are fouls, and he is pushed off the ball too much. He is not the standard of player Liverpool deserve.
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i think your being unfair to lucas mate i saw yesterday when cahill took torres out of it and the lucas did the same to cahill, lookin out for his team mates which carra did for so many years we need players who will do this look out for torres casuse he gets alot of abuse in matches

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02 Jan 2011 18:19:55
Sturridge thinks he can come to Liverpool and be our hero of the hour. He isn't playing enough games at the top level and at best is a 7/ 10 player imo.

Yeh How can he be a saviour. .bit like joe cole eh?

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02 Jan 2011 18:15:05
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I dunno about Rodallega tbh. I get the feeling if he had more quality around him, he could really bang them in. He is a big guy, he's got quick feet, he's athletic and he's not afraid to shoot. Between him and N'Gog, him every time. N'Gog has no presence on the ball whatsoever, CB's love playing against him.

We should have bought Routledge years ago, we could have really turned him into a top class player.

ferd

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02 Jan 2011 18:08:44
My All Time Liverpool Team

GK: Ray Clemence
DR: Phil Neal
DL: Alan Kennedy
DC: Jamie Carragher
DC: Alan Hansen
MC: Xabi Alonso
MC: Steven Gerrard
MR: Kenny Dalglish
ML: John Barnes
ST: Ian Rush
ST: Michael Owen

All of these players at their prime would destroy any other Greatest XI team.


NO SOUEY then your under 40 and are naming players your dad says. Nicol is twice the player of Kennedy, Lawro better than Carra. And Keegan b4 Owen {ed's note - I can't believe anyone would put Owen in, he never made Fowler's level, let alone Keegan's.}

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02 Jan 2011 18:04:55
DID ANYONE SEE LUCAS MISS OF THE SEASON AND OUR DEFENCE WAS A JOKE AGAINST BOLTON. . UTD WILL EXPOSE ROY FOR WHAT HE REALLY IS THE BOLTON GAME WAS THE GERRARD AND TORRES SHOW AGAIN AND WHERE IS DIRK S FIRST TOUCH NGOG IS NOT READY YET THE RESERVES IS WHERE HE BELONGS EVERTON ARE LOOKN FORWARD TO ANOTHER 3 POINTS

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02 Jan 2011 18:04:00
Absolutely spot-on analysis:

_www.independent.ie/ sport/ soccer/ grumbling-on-towards-an-inevitable-conclusion-2480857.html

well worth a read, at least to see how the media SHOULD be reacting

ferd

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02 Jan 2011 18:00:03
And there is a dearth of good German centre backs at the moment, which I am sure some of our German readers will confirm.

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I can confirm this. Most of the Bundesliga clubs lack good centre backs and even Bayern have this problem (that is why defending midfielder Tymoshchuk has often played there recently).

I also agree with the writers who say that Mertesacker is not good enough as he is very slow and hardly has any mobility. You can not compare him to Hyypiä as the last season has shown. Hyypiä was the best centre back of the last season whereas Mertesacker was not consistent and had many poor performances. He is clearly over-rated and one of the reasons why Bremen's defending is so bad.

Liverpool fan from Germany

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02 Jan 2011 17:59:02
I think we could be looking at Gohouri Wigan as Roy thinks we're weak in that area.He should not cost that much and can play left back and centre back.

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02 Jan 2011 17:54:40
02 Jan 2011 09:16:04
Ahh the Commodore 64, brings me back sniff sniff
1982 when 8 Bits seemed like all the memory in the world.
And not to forget we won the league after being 10th at Christmas if only the World today was as happy as then :-( right i'm off to download an 64 emulator at least i'll have one of the joys of '82.

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Posh git. I was stuck with the spectrum 28k with the rubber keys and 10 mins to load a game from a cassette tape.

MUSHROOM
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02 Jan 2011 17:51:04
The Titanic could turn quicker than Mertesacker. He'd be totally destroyed in the Premier League by the likes of Drogba and even Carroll.


Actually, I think that those players would be the ones he would be most effecive against. I would worry more about the likes of Nasri, fabregas, vdv, modric, tevez and johnson. Give the lad anything in the air, and that's his comfort zone, give him an inside left through ball, and he's toast. I have watched him in major competitions for a while now because as I said he is a stylish player, and his last wc but one I was impressed.

Mind you if it was a choice of him or Carra, then it's him all day. Ever see Carra change feet? It's like Riverdance :)

ferd

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02 Jan 2011 17:46:51
Liverpool Rumours
Having been linked with Per Mertesacker, I think it would be a bad move on our part - a good world cup apart, he is part of a Wolfsburg team struggling under Steve McClaren, and they would want big money for him - considering they rejected several bids over £10m from Arsenal in the summer. If we were going to bring in a centre-back - Shawcross or Cahill would be much better options being younger, having Premiership experience and would add to our homegrown contingent - whilst costing a similar amount to Mertesacker. But centre-back isn't our most pressing concern with us having Carragher, Agger, Skrtel, Soto, Kelly, Danny Wilson and Dani Ayala there. With Insua expected to return, he would add to our left-back position. Glen Johnson is being touted out across Europe for £15m, but no-one is prepared to pay his £120k/ week wages. I have no idea who has been lined up as a replacement. Yann M'Vila has also been heavily linked, unless Poulsen or Lucas leave - I don't see any reason why we need to invest the £10-15m on him now. Our most pressing concern is in attack and the £20m+ what would be spent on a centre back and centre midfielder should be spent on attackers instead. We seriously lack width, it's telling that our 2 goals vs Bolton came from balls into the box from wide areas. All our "wingers" want to come inside, narrowing the pitch and making us very easy to defend against, if Johnson and Konchesky were overlapping on the flanks this would be acceptable, but they don't! We missed out on Afellay (he cost £2.5m! !) I don't know whether we made any move for him, but we should have. If we are singing Marveaux, he needs to come now-not in the summer. We also need to secure Keisuke Honda, he is the sort of player who can ignite the team-something which Joe Cole has been unable to do. If we are to continue with 4-4-2, we need a new striker - David N'Gog is too inexperienced, and cannot be relied upon to fire us up the table.

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02 Jan 2011 17:45:21
Liverpool Rumours
Team I would love to see over the next 2 transfer windows for the new season, that is realistic if NESV are really going to spend:

Xherdan shaquiri-2m + only 18 (january)
taiwo - free (summer)
Turan - 12-15m (probably summer)
Honda - 12m (january)
Suarez - 25m ( either window)

Out:
babel - 5m
PK and CP - doesn't matter how much
Jovanovic - 3m
Aqulani - 16m, I think that's the price

Team:
Reina
Johnson-agger-skrtel-taiwo
Merilies-Gerrard-Turan
Honda
Suarez-Torres

Manager: Andrea villas boas

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02 Jan 2011 17:44:34
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Ed i have a seriuos question how do you become a editor and where do you het your income from? pls reply

{Editor's Note: The editorial club is a secret society which is invitation only. We cannot talk about income - and it would be different for each Editor in any case.}

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02 Jan 2011 17:41:21
Re: Mertesacker

I think your giving the guy a rough ride! at just 26 years of age he's got 73 caps for germany and is there current first choice. He must be doing somthing right!

It's not just about pace, it's about mobility. I have no idea if he has olympic sprinting ability, but if he cannot turn any quicker that the Queen Marys we have already, then he's just another beanpole defender.

And there is a dearth of good German centre backs at the moment, which I am sure some of our German readers will confirm. Personally I think he is a stylish player who will stay on his feet, and he can play football, I am just concerned at the mobility of a guy who is only 26. I think the PL needs more agile defenders than the big lad.

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02 Jan 2011 17:40:34
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{ed's note - Mertesacker is not half the player Hyypia is now, let alone back then. His reading of the game is poor, he is slow and weak, his technique is not good enough either.}
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The Titanic could turn quicker than Mertesacker. He'd be totally destroyed in the Premier League by the likes of Drogba and even Carroll.

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02 Jan 2011 17:40:16
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I fear for us nsev have spent on a single players wages in baseball totalling a wopping 120mil dollars on a six year contract and another 73mil dollars on a coach for 5 years, we should get that privlege and get spoilt rotten.

Ed- whats your comment

Londonbasedliverpoolfan1996

{Editor's Note: You cannot compare the Red Sox and Liverpool at all.}

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02 Jan 2011 17:39:51
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I don't think Roy is there to watch any player. I think he's there is to find how newcastle play away from home. With their new manager, their tactics will change and I think Roy is just watching to see how they might play when they visit anfield. Only player there whose good enough is Enrique.

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02 Jan 2011 17:37:22
Woy signed Poulsen when he could have gone for Tiote. The lad clearly knows he is being scouted as he is playing out of his skin! RED77

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02 Jan 2011 17:30:59
There's a lot of comment on here that seems to suggest that Aurelio is the answer to our LB problems.

For me, at best he's only ever been average. I've never believed him to be good enough to be first choice. .and then add to that his terrible injury record (I'm not blaming him for that btw! ).

It just shows how bad things have got at our club and how many truly shocking LBs we've had to suffer recently that Aurelio now finds himself with such an elevated status.

In my opinion, he is nothing more than useful cover. .meaning that we desperately need a first choice LB.

Probably due to the other positions that we are in even more desperate need to bring quality in for I am guessing that LB will not be addressed until the summer.

Frenchy.

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02 Jan 2011 17:30:15
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So the Geordies bought Cheick Tiote from FC Twente for less money than we paid for Poulsen at neat enough the same time August last year. Now if we want him he will cost at least double that Nice one Woy! RED77

{Editor's Note: Why a dig at the manager?}

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02 Jan 2011 17:26:58
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Reina
Johnson Agger Cahill Insua
Meireles Lucas/ Jovanovic Honda Rodríguez
Ngog Torres

should be the starting 11 in a 4-4-2 formation or a 4-3-3 (with Meireles or Honda acting the 3rd attacker)
and Poulsen being a part exchange for Honda

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02 Jan 2011 17:24:25
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My All Time Liverpool Team

GK: Ray Clemence
DR: Phil Neal
DL: Alan Kennedy
DC: Jamie Carragher
DC: Alan Hansen
MC: Xabi Alonso
MC: Steven Gerrard
MR: Kenny Dalglish
ML: John Barnes
ST: Ian Rush
ST: Michael Owen

All of these players at their prime would destroy any other Greatest XI team.

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02 Jan 2011 17:22:50
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Roy is looking at Steven Taylor for CB! ! ! ! !

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02 Jan 2011 17:18:59
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Paul_tomkins

RT @JohnSinnott: Just spoken to Utrecht on reported #lfc interest in striker Ricky van Wolfswinkel. "No official bid from #lfc."

{Editor's Note: This is correct and has been known since the start of the discussion process.}

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02 Jan 2011 17:18:47
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Roy there to put in a bid for N'Zogbia but thought they would look at Others such as Jonas, Rodellega

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02 Jan 2011 17:18:44
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I hope we are looking at tiote he is a quality player, reminds me of essien, doubt newcastle would be selling after six months though unless we're talking big money (£10+)

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02 Jan 2011 17:15:46
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IN
Keisuke Honda - CSKA Moscow - £14m - AMRLC
Yann M'Vila - Rennes - £14m - DM
Sylvain Marveaux - Rennes - £2m - D/ AML
Gervinho - Lille - £10.7m - AMR/ ST
Ryan Shawcross - Stoke - £6.5m - DC
Mamadou Sakho - PSG - £10.5m - DLC
Total = £57.7m

OUT
Daniel Agger - Juventus - £8m - DC
Milan Jovanovic - Standard - £3.5m - AML/ ST
Christian Poulsen - Sevilla - £3m- DM
Paul Konchesky - West Ham - £3m - DL
Ryan Babel - Birmingham - £8.5m - AMRL/ ST
Lucas Leiva - Villarreal - £6m - MC
Total = £32m

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02 Jan 2011 17:15:34
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02 Jan 2011 16:45:44
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Hey ed hodgson and commoli watching wigan vs newcastle who do you think they are there for {ed's note - Tiote would be my bet.}


Why'd we need a defensive midfielder?

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02 Jan 2011 17:14:08
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No offense, but Rangnick's record looks mediocre compared to Hodgson's. No point in bringing him in, get someone who knows how to win in please. Klopp is the man.

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02 Jan 2011 17:09:09
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Roy Hodgson and Damien Commolli both at Wigan N'Zogbia not playing, so theyre either watching Jose Enrique, Tiote or Rodellaga.

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02 Jan 2011 17:03:02
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London centered media mafia (in this case the mail on sunday) calling joe coles winner controversial? why? Just shows why we all should think very carefully about what we read and believe.

Muzmacol

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02 Jan 2011 16:53:13
Ed who would you like as manager id like kenny daglish he cares about the club and plays young players e.g he would of played kelly against blackpool not carragher at right back {ed's note - I would prefer someone new, someone who plays attractive attacking football, there are a number of people I would like us to look at to be honest. But I wouldn't say there is any one candidate that stands out particularly for me.}}

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02 Jan 2011 16:52:49
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Hey ed does'nt commoli and hodgson little scouting trip show us that no one can really predict lfc transfers they play their cards close to the chest

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02 Jan 2011 16:49:41
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You eds wanna take your head out of the clouds saying he's not good enough for our club well sorry we are only gonna attract those kind of player full stop . . . .

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02 Jan 2011 16:42:55
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In Reply:

02 Jan 2011 14:30:29
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Hey ed how do you rate vladimir weiss of rangers and dennis oliech of auxerre think they are good enough {ed's note - nowhere near good enough.}

Weiss is actualy on loan from city and rated quite highly he is a decent prospect i doubt the ed has actualy seen much of him judging by the reply, any reason ed, alot is expected in the future from him. Although there are better out there and i wouldn't want him for us.

YNWA
Quigz23

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02 Jan 2011 16:42:33
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Guttered seeing roy at the wigan game its not as if were playing them or newcastle soo so it means hes looking at players so apart from andy carrol theres no other players there that can make us any better feel like crying (mick)

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02 Jan 2011 16:42:20
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Brilliant to see Agger back yesterday.
A class act.
I know his injury record is poor, but he is quality.
I hope he stays. And the other posters are dead on, we've got enough cart horse centre halves without the German !
KB

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02 Jan 2011 16:41:06
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Ed What do you think of Hugo Rodallega?

Would he be a good signing for Liverpool?
Ive no idea what the chances are.
Just interested of your opinion on him

M

{Editor's Note: I have not seen enough of the player but he has been linked before.}

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02 Jan 2011 16:39:21
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Macca from being sure from 31st of dec that Hodgson won't go till summer to 2nd of jan youve been told hes going b4 the man u game. . christ youve got some good contacts? then from being told to being sure? bit of backtrackin?

I spoke to someone yesterday and he told me he was pretty sure that he will be gone.

I think it is a shock because up until yesterday people where confident he would stay till the end of season.

Macca

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02 Jan 2011 16:39:18
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Why the clamor for Kenny?

I know Roy's not the man for the job but neither is kenny, all I see at the moment is a parallel with Newcastle (we want shearer (who took them down)) fans. Why can't we just leave it to the owners to sort, this season is finished for us anyway. Roys got foot and mouth disease I know but he looked a broken man yesterday at the game, it made me feel sad for what we've become and also for him. He's a decent guy in over his head.

I'm just looking forward to the future without Roy or Kenny.

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02 Jan 2011 16:38:59
So theres Roy chating away with comolli at the wigan game.
Dont look like someone going to lose there job.
It wouldn't make sense for them to be there together if he was.
I fear he, s not going anywere.

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02 Jan 2011 16:38:19
As for Kuyt he may not be a pacey winger but he offers a good passing ability, good defence (covering our attacking RB in Glenn Johnson) and he works his socks off for the team - he also comes up with many crucial goals when put to the test.

One player I believe to be underacheiving is Pepe. . I very much like him however he needs to improve when it comes to 1 on 1 with players. If you look at recent goals scored against us, most of the time he is closing his eyes! (e.g. against wolves and bolton). .
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02 Jan 2011 16:37:02
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Just seen roy at the wigan game i hope he isn't intrested in rodelaga wudnt mind tiote for newcastle better than poulson that's for sure ed why do you think hes there comoli is with him too

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02 Jan 2011 16:36:56
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Comolli is at the wigan vs newcastle game looking at Rodallega.

Lovett32


No, they're there to look at N'zogbia. He'd come fairly cheaply, is 24 and classed as Homegrown.

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02 Jan 2011 16:36:43
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Still trying to work out why roy and damien comolli would be at wigan newcastle match , can't be for any of there players surely? the only decent player is probably nzogbia and he aint even playing , do you have any ideas ed? we havent got to play either team for a while so can't be scouting oppenent

{Editor's Note: I wouldn't read too much in to it.}

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02 Jan 2011 16:36:04
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Hodgson and Comolli both at Wigan game - watching N'Zogbia?

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02 Jan 2011 16:32:39
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Roy and commolli are at the newcastle wigan game today, i have been told from a reliable source (told me about the possible signing of mereiles days before it happened) they are looking at 2 strikers, bosselli from wigan. . and SHOLA AMEOBI from newcastle! i nearly cried when i heard about ameobi, i hope we don't sign him i realllly hope we dont. ed have you heard anything about this?

{Editor's Note: I doubt your source is correct - it seems like an attempt to knock Roy to me. Rodallega maybe. Or a nice day out together.}

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02 Jan 2011 16:31:10
The question being how well would any of these managers have done with our present team?? {ed's note - where is Paisley? He was better than any of those!}

and i thought you had a knowledge of the game ed? but apparently not! !

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02 Jan 2011 16:28:12
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Ed. I spotted TORRES get out of a HONDA and talk to HULK standing nearby asking him to aKompany him to a medical shop . He was agog about being rid of Ngog. He apparently wanted to have medicine as he didn't want another COLE(cold). However the HULK, he wanted (tobe)ALON SO he left. . ONCE torres was DUNNE he left for his apartment as it would have been FUCILE( Futile) to play in Snow. On the way he meant sergeant Mr.Shawcross who asked him to drop him home. SHAWCROSS had a broken leg and hence was cross with himself. Apparently the sergeant got beaten up by Mr. GLEN JOHN'sSON.

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02 Jan 2011 16:20:58
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Ed, do you think that Maxi is doing enough to be in the current starting 11. Because he's scoring regularly considering that he is being deployed out wide rather than (centrally) attacking midfield. With Marveaux 99.9% certainly coming in to play on the left I would switch Maxi from the left wing to the right wing. Torres up front. If we sign Honda he should play as a second striker. Gerrard & Miereles as interchangable centre mids (when one attacks the other holds). The following back line: Aurelio-Agger-Skrtel-Johnson. Reina in goal (obviously). subs: Jones-Kuyt-Cole-Lucas-Ngog.
Then we could probably get atleast 3 of these player in summer: Hulk/ Dzeko/ Suarez/ Gomez/ Llorente, Turan/ Mata, Coentrao/ Taiwo, Hazard/ Young
With an emphasis on developing the likes of Wilson, Pacheco, Suso, Shelvey etc.
Possibly take on Daniel Sturridge. {ed's note - at the moment Maxi is one of our better players, he deserves his place while playing like he is.}

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02 Jan 2011 16:17:11
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I would absoloutely love Andre villas Boas to become manger he sounds like mourinho 2 and credit where credit is due he is a phenominal manger

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02 Jan 2011 16:13:36
02 Jan 2011 15:51:06
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The question being how well would any of these managers have done with our present team? {ed's note - where is Paisley? He was better than any of those!}

time to take off those tinted glasses ed he was 5th or 6th i think he was not a patch on these sadly {ed's note - utter rubbish, he was the greatest manager, in the English league of all time, nothing to do with being biased. I am just not biased against Liverpool.}

I think saf is up there. Whats he has done in modern times has been amazing. {ed's note - yes but he did it on the back of Ron Atkinson's youth team and spending huge (for the times) amounts of money. Can't take away from the fact he is one of the best though.}

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02 Jan 2011 16:10:42
I'm not coming on this website again, it's full of so called "supporters" who do nothing but insult players who aren't good enough. Voice your discontent, but there is no need to make derogatory comments about them personally! I watched a video of paul konchesky's first LFCTV interview on Youtube and in the comments it was nothing but, "f* * o* you cockney c* *!" or the piss taken out of his accent or him being blamed for his Mum's comments. (not really the people who can rip someone for having a strange accent are we?) {ed's note - what's that got to do with this website?}

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02 Jan 2011 16:10:39
Owen Coyle is still a young manager, he will manage a top team one day I am sure. But he isn't our best shot at getting out of this rut. .

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02 Jan 2011 16:10:21
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2 Jan 2011 16:01:22
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Roy and comoli are at the wigan vs newcastle game.

There aint any one on the pitch that deserves to be in a liverpool shirt so if they are there its a waste of time , plus roy should be packing his bags not watching wigan

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02 Jan 2011 16:08:41
As for Kuyt he may not be a pacey winger but he offers a good passing ability, good defence (covering our attacking RB in Glenn Johnson) and he works his socks off for the team - he also comes up with many crucial goals when put to the test.

One player I believe to be underacheiving is Pepe. . I very much like him however he needs to improve when it comes to 1 on 1 with players. If you look at recent goals scored against us, most of the time he is closing his eyes! (e.g. against wolves and bolton). .
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02 Jan 2011 16:08:21
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Sturridge thinks he can come to Liverpool and be our hero of the hour. He isn't playing enough games at the top level and at best is a 7/ 10 player imo.

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02 Jan 2011 16:07:56
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£1.5 mill for marvaux
we bought a s* t lb konchesky for almost the same amount
and polsen for more than double of that
both flops
i hope marvaux is better

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02 Jan 2011 16:06:04
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LATEST FROM TWITTER

empireofthekop Empire of the Kop
RT @JBcommentator: Roy Hodgson and Damian Comolli at Wigan v Newcastle. . . .you can start speculating now!

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02 Jan 2011 16:04:06
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A wonderful goal from world-class players, ' gushed Coyle. 'A top-class pass from Gerrard and an exquisite finish from Torres.' "

One wonders what the future holds for Mr Coyle.

RED LENIN
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02 Jan 2011 16:02:54
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I agree read the post before making a comment. I agree carragher has been awesome for us but this season he aint been to good it comes to us all. yesterdat we looked a hell of a lot stronger at the back with Ager and Skrtrl, we finally had a but of pace and quality. Maybe its time we dropped carra to the subs bench and bring him on when needed,

We still need a RB cos Johnson is useless LB we are fine with Aurellio we may need cover, we could try Kelly at RB instead at least he can tackle. So may be in games that are coming up it should be like this Kelly, Agger, Skrtel amd Aurellio

NEZZA YNWA

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02 Jan 2011 16:01:18
Yesterday as the players came off the pitch you saw how much passion the players had for Roy Hodgson and how much they liked him, as well as the coaching staff you could see how commited they were to him at the end of the game when they all patted him on the back.

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02 Jan 2011 16:00:30
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Sorry Ed but I hope we sign Per Mertesacker because you will eat your words, not literally. . He is better than what we have now and at around 6'6" is a threat at set pieces. He rarely makes rash decisions and if he (other than injury) is a mainstay in the German defence I'd take him over what we have right now. 22 goals from 200 games is a great return for a defender.

Michael Duvall

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02 Jan 2011 15:58:15
Pace isn't as necessary as physical presence, positional sense & for us, maybe able to play a bit. Big Sami had no pace & it didn't stop him. I know nothing about this German we are interested in but I wouldn't be too concerned if he wasn't an Olympic sprinter.

The Irish Rover
AGREE
sami was class, you can go back to ron yeats he was slower again, but you need pace in the defence somewhere, football is getting faster and faster, i know agger is injured a lot but he has loads of ability, is it worth the gamble selling him and buying the german? i think we need a proper winger and a goal scorer more than another defender at this time, bob paisleys skids

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02 Jan 2011 15:51:06
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The question being how well would any of these managers have done with our present team?? {ed's note - where is Paisley? He was better than any of those!}

time to take off those tinted glasses ed he was 5th or 6th i think he was not a patch on these sadly {ed's note - utter rubbish, he was the greatest manager, in the English league of all time, nothing to do with being biased. I am just not biased against Liverpool.}

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02 Jan 2011 15:46:38
Am gonna put a spanner works here, With money i really do think David Moyes would be good at Liverpool, what does everyone think.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
We need George Burley!
Duckula

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02 Jan 2011 15:45:33
REDIAN
lad why don't you READ the post before disagreeing and then saying i must be mad, i have not said anything ALAN HANSEN stated he was slow not me, and as for saying carra is slow yes he is, BUT we are really missing him now, that wolves goal would never of been scored with him in the team, its easy for every one to slag players but no one can say carragher gives less than 100% unlike several i can mention, some people on here only say what the majority say and have no real opinion, please read before attacking posts bob paisleys skids

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02 Jan 2011 15:40:33
I believe we should give Roy time
In many games so far this season, e.g against Chelsea, Spurs, Villa we have played really good football. So, technically he is good manager.

Yesterday as the players came off the pitch you saw how much passion the players had for Roy Hodgson and how much they liked him, as well as the coaching staff you could see how commited they were to him at the end of the game when they all patted him on the back.

I believe that the defeats that Liverpool have gone through are more down to the players under-achieving, e.g Joe Cole, Torres, GJ, Pepe and Skrtel ; once these players hit their form they will act brilliantly alongside RH's tactics (which we have seen glimpses of).

So overall we need to give Roy time - time for our players to hit their form and conform to RH's tactics which they will do as many are world class and they all like RH. Also he hasn't had much time to sign players he wanted but he had a good buy in Meireles and has also made Ngog into a very good CF. Finally the club (e.g the coaching staff, KK, the board and the owners) have full backing of Roy Hodgson.

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02 Jan 2011 15:34:32
Pace isn't as necessary as physical presence, positional sense & for us, maybe able to play a bit. Big Sami had no pace & it didn't stop him. I know nothing about this German we are interested in but I wouldn't be too concerned if he wasn't an Olympic sprinter.

The Irish Rover

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02 Jan 2011 15:25:53
Just want to talk about a few 'underacheiving players'
as for Kuyt he may not be a pacey winger but he offers a good passing ability, good defence (covering our attacking RB in Glenn Johnson) and he works his socks off for the team - he also comes up with many crucial goals when put to the test.

One player I believe to be underacheiving is Pepe. . I very much like him however he needs to improve when it comes to 1 on 1 with players. If you look at recent goals scored against us, most of the time he is closing his eyes! (e.g. against wolves and bolton). .

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02 Jan 2011 15:23:14
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ALAN HANSEN
i watched almost every game he played for us and i have never seen a central defender like him since, he talks a lot of sense and i would like to ask him his opinion on MERTESAKER because during the world cup he said "mertesacker is woefully slow i could still out sprint him even now" i have just read we are on the verge of buying him and selling agger, i understand its paper talk but its worrying to me, we need more pace in the team, the last thing we need is another slow defender, bob paisleys skids

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02 Jan 2011 15:17:17
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Re: Mertesacker

I think your giving the guy a rough ride! at just 26 years of age he's got 73 caps for germany and is there current first choice. He must be doing somthing right! If your telling me he's any slower than jammie carragher ot the greek then you must be mad. In my opinion he reads the game well and would'nt have as many caps if he didnt.
All this aside i would much rather give kelly (RB) and Wilson (CB) a run of games. I think we need to trust in our youth and build from the bottom to get us back were we belong.
As for the manager situation, Bring in Kenny and Tomo till the end of the season just to give the whole place a bit of a lift. But don't part with any money untill we have a full time manager in place!

ALSO I READ THIS SITE ALL THE TIME AND GET SO ANOYED WITH IDIOTS WHO WOULD SIGN ANYONE FOR THE SAKE OF IT. I TRUST THAT NESV WILL STICK TRUE TO THERE WORD AND ONLY PART WITH THERE MONEY FOR QUALITY YOUNG PLAYERS INSTEAD OF WASHED UP HASBEENS LIKE ROHNALDINHO! ! !

REDIAN

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02 Jan 2011 15:14:47
I would have Aurellio over mummy's boy anyday he is better going forward, he can pass he can take quality free kicks and his mum doesn't write things about him on a social networking site.

I would like Hiddink as the next Liverpool manager. don't want rafa back, don't want owen coyle fon't want Fat Sam.

Am gonna put a spanner works here, With money i really do think David Moyes would be good at Liverpool, what does everyone think.

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02 Jan 2011 15:11:51
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. . . . How can you think he's a good choice, plays good football and knows how to build a club. . When you didn't even know his name and the Ed had to tell you?
Are you 12 by any chance, just addicted to twitter and FB and don't really know much about football but feel you need to post something to be involved?

I have actually seem Hoffenheim play quite a few times. Just because I forgot his name means f*** all. I also know a lot of people who know the German game very well and they rate him very highly. Not like you've never forgot someones name once in your life.

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02 Jan 2011 15:01:08
They must be the 4 best who have not managed LFC! RED77

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02 Jan 2011 14:58:21
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To whoever wrote this:-
There are rumors that liverpool are after the German coach who has just resigned. His name has slipped my mind. Rumors also say that King Kenny has been called back from Dubai. So really no one knows. {ed's note - Ralf Rangnick(sp?) you mean.}

Yeah that's the one. There just the couple rumors that's been heard on twitter. I personally don't believe them. I think nesv are trying not to sack Roy until the summer. Only do it if we are in awful shape. I do think Rangnick is a good choice though, plays good football, plays and knows how to develop youngsters, plays attacking football and can build a club.

. . . . How can you think he's a good choice, plays good football and knows how to build a club. . When you didn't even know his name and the Ed had to tell you?
Are you 12 by any chance, just addicted to twitter and FB and don't really know much about football but feel you need to post something to be involved?

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02 Jan 2011 14:53:01
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The guy has done nothing wrong against the supporters or against the club. . Ok he isn't top class , but he is trying and if you were in his shoes and you knew you wouldn't cut it but had the opportunity to join a club like liverpool , why not take that chance , its the manager's decision whether he picks konchesky or not. but we should support him

And about his mother. . Dont we all have mothers who think they know best for their son / daughter and do things or say things we don't agree to? konchesky and his mom are 2 seperate persons , don't blame paul for the mistakes his mom made, , , ,
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His mother knew full well what she was doing, especially posting on a social network site for all to see! and he is a very poor footballer, should never wear the colours of Liverpool. Liverpool have had better players than Konchesky, who received more abuse. And with the word 'mom' I am guessing your not from the city who she branded as scum! {ed's note - actually I think we should clear this up once and for all, it was not her who used the words 'scouse scum', it was one of her hangers on posting on her status.}
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ed's look at Carol Konchesky's post, it clear shows it in her comment. "To all you Liverpool scouse scum"! {ed's note - I thought that was one of the replies? I will have to go have another look now if I can find the link again.}

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I would "please don't abuse him". . . . . .He is trying his best. . . . .

We should sell him but we should not "abuse him to despair/ depression"

There is no lack of effort on his part though. . . . He is suffering because he has been bought by Hodgson. . . .

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02 Jan 2011 14:50:55
Liverpool Rumours
Ralf Rangnick has left hoffenheim
The 52-year-old Rangnick has decided to leave after over four years in charge of the club after learning they had sold Luiz Gustavo to Bayern Munich on Saturday - a decision he did not agree with.

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02 Jan 2011 14:48:09
How is anyone implying aurelio played well the other day? He gave the ball away needlessly about 12 times and his delivery was well off compared to normal. The centre backs kept having to cover for his lack of pace. And yet you all acclaim him just because you hate konchesky. I thought we claimed to know a lot about football? Yet none of us have noticed aurelio isn't good enough? He only plays half a season anyway, you just sound properly bitter. The new liverpool way! Aurelio is an average left back. Get Sakho and then we'll see how many of you think aurelio was good. . . . or are you forgetting we let him go at the start of the season. . . .
You're just a bunch of bullies. All you know or value is your own opinion, and as soon as that's contravened you scream and scream and scream until you get your own way. Maybe one day soon we'll try and elevate ourselves back into the ranks of human beings. . . .
Duckula {ed's note - I agree with you fully on Aurelio, it always takes him ages to get back his form, usually just in time to suffer another injury.}

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02 Jan 2011 14:47:03
Harry, Owen Coyle is EXACTLY the man we need to create a new era at Anfield. This guy gets average players playing way above their levels. Imagine what he could do with World class talent! His teams also play an attractive pass and move style that we are crying out for. He is young, hungry and if he can weaer them shorts in those temperatures he must be pretty hard too! Add to the fact that he is scottish I fully believe he will go on to be the next great manager and it should be with us! RED77

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02 Jan 2011 14:31:52
Rennes front striker is awesome just saying he's rly strong and powerful I want adebayor!

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02 Jan 2011 14:30:03
Liverpool Rumours
The four greatest ever managers to have managed in the english game are (acc to 4-4-2, and a tv show shown on bravo) were in order

ferguson
wenger
nicholson
clough

the question being how well would any of these managers have done with our present team?? ? {ed's note - where is Paisley? He was better than any of those!}

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02 Jan 2011 14:14:38
02 Jan 2011 09:47:18
Did Anyone notice the comments by Owen Coyle after the game? Sounded as if they were coming from a Liverpool Manager. ."great club, great supporters etc". All the things we would expect from RH. Bring him on!
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He said Reina is a TOP TOP goalkeeper as well.

also i still think its amazing how people say back him and hes turning it around.
we just lost to newcastle and wolves. and we only just beat a under strengh bolton team.
so if cole didn't score they would say sack roy. so one tiny lucky goal keeps him the job? /
WTF.

Harry5:)YNWA ps. sack roy

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02 Jan 2011 14:11:13
Liverpool Rumours
Paul Konchesky will not be leaving Liverpool this transfer window and join West Ham on loan as he would be unable to play for another club due to playing for Fulham and Liverpool this season. Fifa, do us a favour and change your rules so we can get this berk out of the club and as far away from Liverpool as possible!

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Can you guys just shut up about konchesky?

The guy has done nothing wrong against the supporters or against the club. . Ok he isn't top class , but he is trying and if you were in his shoes and you knew you wouldn't cut it but had the opportunity to join a club like liverpool , why not take that chance , its the manager's decision whether he picks konchesky or not. but we should support him

And about his mother. . Dont we all have mothers who think they know best for their son / daughter and do things or say things we don't agree to? konchesky and his mom are 2 seperate persons , don't blame paul for the mistakes his mom made, , , ,


and you are. . Paul's Dad

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02 Jan 2011 14:05:03
Liverpool Rumours
To be quite honest liverpool are terrible at this moment we are a top four team and before yesterday we lay 3, yes 3 points off relegation. First we need a new manager, king kenny best bet and new players we should try and sign,

Elia
Young
Cahill- gary
Fernando Llorente

And get rid of,
Babel
Jova

Its not really about getting rid of players its about bringing in players to deepen our shallow one.

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02 Jan 2011 14:01:01
02 Jan 2011 13:35:16
I believe Roy will be gone before the Utd game.

Macca
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I hope so Macca.
If he's not maybe the Manc's could sack him for us. Lol. I've got a funny felling well win that match though. Even though its away, and even with Roy in charge.
Im no even hopeful against Blackburn though. We don't have a great record there. its away as well

Harry5:)YNWA

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02 Jan 2011 13:58:58
Agger was absolute quality yesterday , what a difference a footballing centre back makes instead of lumping it forward all the time . . the more he plays the more we'll win

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02 Jan 2011 13:58:03
Liverpool Rumours
In US sports, it is usual to have a personnel manager (often called "general manager") who is in charge of scouting and signing players based on the manager's/ coach's criteria. This is because good coaches are often not great at evaluating players (that was one of the problems with our last two managers). My guess is that NESV would want someone like Comolli regardless of who they had as coach. When you think about it, this makes sense as most successful large businesses would have specialists in charge of recruitment. Why should football be any different? I'm sure most football managers/ coaches would disagree but they would, wouldn't they?

Has Comolli proved to be any good at buying players, no! I don't trust Comolli but he has found a few decent defenders, that's all. He still needs to prove to us he is good enough to locate good buys.

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02 Jan 2011 13:53:16
Liverpool Rumours
OK Liverpool want a top class manager right? Right. OK so why in the Lord's name was Kenny Dalglish turned down and Roy appointed.

Kenny's Managerial CV (Liverpool Only)

- Charity Shield (4)
- FA Cup (3)
- The League (3)

Roy Hodgson Managerial CV (Overall)

- Allsvenskan (7)
- Swedish Football Champions (2)
- Svenska Cupen (2)
- Danish Superliga (1)
- Danish Super Cup (1)

So that makes Roy (13) to Kenny's (10). In England however Roy has (0) to Kenny's (12)

We all know it's a no brainer, just install Kenny now.

BloodRedMatt

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02 Jan 2011 13:48:13
Lenny Henry has asked for Woy to appear on The Magicians next Saturday after he successfully made ten thousand Liverpool Supporters disappear!

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02 Jan 2011 13:46:32
Liverpool Rumours
Marveux will be used as a left back. konchesky will ask for a transfer due to fans reaction to his below par performances and comments made from his mother. auralio when fit is a good and decent left back, but has not had a run of more than ten games since he joined and for that reason can not be relied upon.
elia is being looked at but the price is yet to be agreed. but is seen as a cheaper option than ashley young.
m'villa would be a great addition to the squad and would offer all the quailities that masherano gave the first team. but interest from real madrid could prove to be the undoing of this potential deal, so comolli is acting fast to try and make this happpen.
a forward is obviously needed, but is extremelly difficult to find value for money, any good forward will be at a good club possibly playing in the champions league and no club would wish to weaken there squads with the knockout phase due to start soon. wolfswinkle is being looked at, but offers little more than ngog. it is hoped that honda will fill the viod of the second forward untill the summer, however the honda deal seems to have stalled.
finally hodgson will be given till mid feb, he will be given time with new signings in the squad, however if like yesterday crowd levels continue to drop, action maybe have to be taken before.

matt27

mate i do agree with you there on a number of things but concerning a striker i think fernando llorente would be a fantastic option as he plays for bilbao who don't have euro football and would be a great partner for torres. and mate crowd levels are nothing to worry as it was New Year's Day yesterday so it doesn't really matter.

maka

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02 Jan 2011 13:45:29
Why does Johnson get so much flak? If he has issue's defending, that can be worked on
WORKED ON?
he cost app 17.5 million (bought as a defender)
plays for his country as a defender?
If he needs working on as a defender then the scout or decision maker who decided to buy him must have glucoma. Another thing is we need instant influx. Its no used mentioning squad bit part players, we need here and now players. like the better prem players ie Parker, Cahill?, Young?, or the obvious biggies ie Hulk, Hazard?, Kjaer, Dzecko, Schneider(i wish), ok Llorente, Mexes. that type straight in . not 4 hit and miss players, we've enough of them. SMF

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02 Jan 2011 13:42:53
Liverpool Rumours
I don't rly see why every1s saying how his defense his carp in the last couple of games hes been saving a few goals 4 us recently i think he is playing quite well..

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02 Jan 2011 13:40:23
I don't like Konchesky purely on the basis that Aurelio is much better as shown yesterday. Simple enough.

I also said Ngog doesn't have it previously and I have to say I've been forced into a re-think watching him yetserday. He was an unsung hero. Some of the balls he gave (back heel to Kuyt) and a ball down the line to Torres under pressure from 2 Bolton players along with the chest down for the first goal were excellent. His footwork is also good I just want him to shoot a bit more.

Spriggo

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02 Jan 2011 13:39:18
Liverpool Rumours
Right roy so once again we win at home and next is an away game just for once win!
Johnson Kelly Agger Aurelio
Lucas
Maxi Gerrard Raul
Nando Cole/ Babel

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02 Jan 2011 13:35:14
Editor's Note: Forward not back for me. Nothing else.}

Yeh ed i agree for the future, but the poster was talking intrim till summer.
Were not going to get the manager we need til summer if indeed we can atract one at all.
So do we stick it out with roy and maybe miss out on europe in all formats, or bring in kenny to at least stock a bit of fire in them.
I think we should take the chance on Kenny, if we stick with Roy and things get worse the fans will blame the owners and we will be back to square one.

Btw guys why is nothing ever easy at our club? Keep up good work in new yr ed, s id be lost without this site. {ed's note - but bringing in Kenny means we would have to stick with him unless we got relegated or the next guy will have no hope.}

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02 Jan 2011 13:34:56
02 Jan 2011 10:21:45
Cant believe what im reading when i see bring Insua back from loan. Has everyone forgotten how awful he was last season. His mistakes led to numerous goals, he constantly got ripped down the wings for pace, and his passing was terrible. Unless he has lost about 4 stone while he's been way i don't want him back.

Newts7

Difference is that insua is better at attacking then konchesky. Neither of them can defend but insua has the potential to get better at defending. I do admit we need to sell Konchesky, Auerlio and buy a first choice lb with insua as back up. I'd be happy with that personally.

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02 Jan 2011 13:18:09
02 Jan 2011 10:04:48
Liverpool Rumours
Paul Konchesky will not be leaving Liverpool this transfer window and join West Ham on loan as he would be unable to play for another club due to playing for Fulham and Liverpool this season. Fifa, do us a favour and change your rules so we can get this berk out of the club and as far away from Liverpool as possible!

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Can you guys just shut up about konchesky?

The guy has done nothing wrong against the supporters or against the club. . Ok he isn't top class , but he is trying and if you were in his shoes and you knew you wouldn't cut it but had the opportunity to join a club like liverpool , why not take that chance , its the manager's decision whether he picks konchesky or not. but we should support him

And about his mother. . Dont we all have mothers who think they know best for their son / daughter and do things or say things we don't agree to? konchesky and his mom are 2 seperate persons , don't blame paul for the mistakes his mom made, , , ,


and you are. . Paul's Dad?

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02 Jan 2011 13:16:48
02 Jan 2011 08:57:10
Liverpool Rumours
Guys I was wondering how many premiership teams do not have left footed winger in first team apart from Liverpool . .

We don't even have a proper hug the touch line winger. Doesn't matter what footed they are.

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02 Jan 2011 13:09:33
Liverpool Rumours
I Just can't believe Roy is still in charge. I mean look we all know he is a good guy and alot of the silly comments he has come out with are down to the enormous pressure he is under trying to keep his head above water. Lets face it Roy is not up to the job as LFC manager and in my own opinion never was. The time for the new owners to show some B*lls is now replace Roy and if it has to be the King and Thommo until the summer u won't hear anybody complain. This month we have a game roughly every 4 days imagine the lift the team would get from team talks with theese legends. Ya they probably arent the long term answer (obiously. too long out of management) and yes it is a gamble but surely holding on to Roy is just as much of a gamble, going with Kenny and Thommo would get fans and players alike united behind them because we would all know it was for a few months. Come on NESV give us all a lift

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02 Jan 2011 13:07:42
Can you guys just shut up about konchesky?

The guy has done nothing wrong against the supporters or against the club. . Ok he isn't top class , but he is trying and if you were in his shoes and you knew you wouldn't cut it but had the opportunity to join a club like liverpool , why not take that chance , its the manager's decision whether he picks konchesky or not. but we should support him

And about his mother. . Dont we all have mothers who think they know best for their son / daughter and do things or say things we don't agree to? konchesky and his mom are 2 seperate persons , don't blame paul for the mistakes his mom made, , , ,
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His mother knew full well what she was doing, especially posting on a social network site for all to see! and he is a very poor footballer, should never wear the colours of Liverpool. Liverpool have had better players than Konchesky, who received more abuse. And with the word 'mom' I am guessing your not from the city who she branded as scum! {ed's note - actually I think we should clear this up once and for all, it was not her who used the words 'scouse scum', it was one of her hangers on posting on her status.}

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02 Jan 2011 13:00:26
I think people need to get off Torres's back mon he is doing his best.People who slag him off obviously don't understand what has been happening at Liverpool.
He was signed and promised Liverpool would be making quality signings and keeping their best players A LIE.

He is made to work with professionals below his own bar a few

Liverpool have slid from position to position with NO hope at the moment of getting into the champions league.

He sees the best years of his life being in a club that doesn't have the ambition to go forward( hopefully with the new owners that will change)

He is at the crossroads of his career where due to various injurys he has not been at his best but has no cover.

In any job if you had to work for a company that if you had a sick day your workload was twice as hard the next day you would moan.
Had owners that were promising you help to do your job but constantly blagging you, you would complain.
Had to see the best years of your life in a job that was maccy ds when you could be working as a doctor you would complain.

Its not that he doesn't love Liverpool the guy is sound met him loads of times in Melwood and round Liverpool he is just getting wary of where the club is going the lad has shown more support to the cause than alot of players so lay off him.

I also want people to give Roy a bit of breathing space in the last transfer window we don't know what he had to deal with for all we know he might have had nothing in the way of transfer money.

Look forward not backwards

RED WILLY

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02 Jan 2011 13:00:22
Why would Liverpool supporters chat rafas name and hold up placards rafa come home! during the game. Hes the clown who has us in this mess in the first place. We all know hodgson has bought bad already with the likes of Konchesky and came to his senses yesterday by bombing him from the team. We can t sell him in jan because hes played for two clubs in the 1 season. Last nights game showed alot stronger looking Liverpool squad with Agger and Auerilo in Defence and the Midfield alot balanced more with Maxi on the left and kuyt on the right. We do need more players up front and quicker wingers with a bit of trickery.
Give Roy time. I reckon the next 3 games will decide his future and if we knock Man Ure out of the cup next sunday we ll all have different views about Hodgson.

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02 Jan 2011 12:18:07
Hi Ed, the back pages are saying kenny and Tommo will be asked to take over until the end of the season? what have you heard Ed? I would be made up if its true, whats your thoughts Ed. childwall Ian.

{Editor's Note: I hope not.}

You hope not ed? care to say why, would be worse than roy? come on mate a mad monkey could fire players up better than roy.

{Editor's Note: Forward not back for me. Nothing else.}

Spot on Ed . . What if Kenny got you relegated? Ok for these guys to be coaches or admin or whatever. Roy Eavans is more qualified. but you all look at Kenny and remember his qualities as a player rather than a manager. Thommos a good shout as a coach. i onced asked a bloke, GP.Could you not put Shanks, Paisley or Dalglish into the seats like they have at Preston? He said they could never do it with Kenny as anything could still happen in his life or career that would tarnish it. but something does need to be done. the last scouser to say. Dont worry we'll be ok. . . was driving a ship in 1912.
(adopted)he was originally one of them who go over the top leg breakers.

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02 Jan 2011 12:16:36
Even though we won yesterday i think Woy should be getting his coat and putting his belonging's in a cardbox and leaving his office for teh final time

Time to change thing around a little bit, Bring Kenny in until the end of the season cos every liverpool fan wants him in and no doubt it will work.

Kenny will bring in that passions that has been missing and let the foreign lads no what it means to play for our fantastic club.

Come on Henry do the right thing for you and the fans, Hodgson out and bring the king back to his Castle.

NEZZA YNWA

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02 Jan 2011 12:15:59
Im starting to get annoyed with all this " its the squad Roys inherited". Firstly l, lets look at our actual team.

Reina: Best GK in the league, only reason he's not spanish number 1 is bcoz of casillias.

Johnson: Is Englands first choice RB. Yes hes not the greatest defender but he gives us so mich going forward.

Carragher: Getting on but still rock solid, Been and england international.

Skrtel: First choice slovakian centre half.
Agger: First choice Danish centre half, and is sheer class.

Kyriakos: first choice greek CB

Kuyt: first choice RW for Holland even though he's a ST.

Lucas: brazillian international, improving each week. Hard to
fill masch or Alonso's boots.

Gerrard: first choice England CM, still world class.

Maxi: Argentina international

Torres: World class and first choice
striker in the worlds best team.

N'gog: steady, he's improving each
week. France call up could make him
even better.

Babbel: Holland international.

Aurelio: no doubt there is quality, just
injury prone. Played for brazil.

So looking at that team only N'gog isn't
an international. Now since in the
summer roy got Jovanovic, Poulson,
meireles, Wilson J.Cole and konchesky.
Apart from Koncrapsky they are all
international players.

So all in all when you have that many good players at your disposel why can he
not get them into the top four? My
answer, because he isn't good enough.
Most of them players ive named were all
there when we came 2nd so?

Redman89

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02 Jan 2011 12:12:01
Torres wants to leave! Torres is unhappy! Then why did he blow a kiss to the fans and put his hand to his ear to motivate them. He is as dedicated to this club as much as he was the day he signed. I know it's only one win but I have faith in Roy and co and believe we will fight back.

Absolutely correct. Do not believe anything you read in the papers. All the journos are Spurs and 'Arry fans and their relative success has gone to their heads. Torres knows his reputation is on the line; he came here to do a job, and he is here to complete it. He has not a quitter or a money grabber, and neither is Pepe Reina, Stevie G, Daniel Agger or Dirk Kuyt. They want to make it work, however they don't want to be lied to, which would be the case for anybody.

If some quality players come in January and the Summer, watch the team grow.

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02 Jan 2011 11:12:14
What we need is players who keep the ball. Maxi on the right instead of Dirk, Cole as second striker behind Torres. Fabio at LB and Agger at CB. Left wing a problem still, I'd rather play Babel for his pace or Pacheco for ball retention and vision. The only player out of position is young Pacheco. The team has balance and creativity. Im sure Roy would be more interested in an unbalanced defensive set up!

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02 Jan 2011 10:41:32
NESV YOU CAME TO LISTEN AND LEARN AND NOW THE TRANSFER WINDOW HAS OPENED, LET SEE WHAT THE RESULTS WILL BE IN THIS WINDOW, IF THEY DO NOT SPEND ON ANY STARS WE WILL BE IN THE SAME TROUBLE AS IN THE PAST

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02 Jan 2011 10:36:06
Liverpool Rumours
40 YEARS AGO, 40 YEARS AGO, SPARE A SEC FOR THE 66 THAT NEVER DID COME HOME. . . . . YNWA. . . . JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE

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02 Jan 2011 10:22:40
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, you think its fair to say yesterdays crowd of 35,000 does more harm than any poor performace? There is nothing more likely to focus the mind than the loss of revenue.


Muzmacol YNWA {ed's note - only if crowds are down on a regular basis, it was New Year's Day after all.}

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02 Jan 2011 10:22:15
Week after week , give roy more time, give him a chance, blah, blah, blah! be more ruthless, sack him, the job is too big for the man, the same garbage every game, play too deep, continues with the under performers, play not to lose, hope to grab a lucky goal, the man is making a mockery of us! and i don't give a damn if you pro hodgson lot don't like it! this time the premiership was here for the taking , everyone dropping points; what do we do under woy lose to wolves and get lucky with bolton. uncle woy you are a nice chap, but please go play in the championship with a club you can handle, you know you are out of your depth! so why not hand over to dominic di'matteo so we can salvage our season and play the liverpool way again!
in the best possible taste , woy just go. . NOW!

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02 Jan 2011 10:21:45
Cant believe what im reading when i see bring Insua back from loan. Has everyone forgotten how awful he was last season. His mistakes led to numerous goals, he constantly got ripped down the wings for pace, and his passing was terrible. Unless he has lost about 4 stone while he's been way i don't want him back.

Newts7

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02 Jan 2011 10:19:56
Why does Johnson get so much flak? If he has issue's defending, that can be worked on (mainly positional). He defends fine for Eng and with what he offers going forward, he is invaluable. Don't get some supporters. AND, moving him to RW will not automatically work. Totally different to attacking from RB. Think about it.

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02 Jan 2011 10:16:50
Liverpool Rumours
Give Hodgson a break. He is slowly coming around and realising mistakes. Rafa was too stubborn to ever change anything. Players need to take blame and not be allowed to run the show (Gerrard & Carra - who outsted Rafa).

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02 Jan 2011 10:04:48
Liverpool Rumours
Paul Konchesky will not be leaving Liverpool this transfer window and join West Ham on loan as he would be unable to play for another club due to playing for Fulham and Liverpool this season. Fifa, do us a favour and change your rules so we can get this berk out of the club and as far away from Liverpool as possible!

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Can you guys just shut up about konchesky?

The guy has done nothing wrong against the supporters or against the club. . Ok he isn't top class , but he is trying and if you were in his shoes and you knew you wouldn't cut it but had the opportunity to join a club like liverpool , why not take that chance , its the manager's decision whether he picks konchesky or not. but we should support him

And about his mother. . Dont we all have mothers who think they know best for their son / daughter and do things or say things we don't agree to? konchesky and his mom are 2 seperate persons , don't blame paul for the mistakes his mom made, , , ,

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02 Jan 2011 10:02:16
Liverpool Rumours
I believe by what everyone is saying marveaux is a done deal, i personally think we will sign another winger, i like mata but i wouldn't mind ashley young, every one slates him but am i not wrong he destroyed us last season with a fine display? now villa this season have been poor, so might be a good option, also honda has got be signed the income from shirt sales would be massive! would basically be a free signing. we need some one quick and strong in defence as well some one like shawcross or cahill, what your thoughts ed? {ed's note - I don't rate Young, Shawcross or Cahill myself, none are good enough in my opinion. I would rather see Kelly, Wilson, Mavinga, Wisdom or Ayala being given a chance at centre half than get either of those two hoofers in. Young goes missing in 90% of matches, we can't afford passengers right now.}

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02 Jan 2011 09:47:18
Did Anyone notice the comments by Owen Coyle after the game? Sounded as if they were coming from a Liverpool Manager. ."great club, great supporters etc". All the things we would expect from RH. Bring him on!

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02 Jan 2011 09:21:51
What was it that I said about Torres?? Under a different style of play he will come good again. . Sure enough, a fair few of the doubters have been silenced again. He loves the club, he loves the fans. .

Yesterday was interesting, on recent form I expected nothing, certainly little in the way of chances. I expected the usual Roy tactics, deep play, laughable defending from konchesky, players out of position etc etc. .

What we got was a King Kenny plea before the match. A team selection that was not typical Roy and a rejuvenated enthusiasm for the game. Gerrard wakes up, Torres gets fired up again, Aurelio puts in a clear statement of intent. . Its almost as if someone else was in charge. . I don't see a poor squad. I see a close to champions league squad. If they are led to play in the right way, we would be up there. I wonder if someone other than Hodgson took the reigns yesterday with a point to prove. If so, I hope they get the chance to do so again now. It can't have been Roy, I hope NESV took note of the reaction to KKs plea, with the right person in charge we can change overnight for the better.

HodgsonOut

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02 Jan 2011 09:21:29
35, 400 at yesterdays game,
NESV take note!

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I am sure they did take note as it will be less money.
All this proved was either the missing fans are fickle or had a bit too much new year cheer.

MUSHROOM

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02 Jan 2011 09:16:04
Ahh the Commodore 64, brings me back sniff sniff
1982 when 8 Bits seemed like all the memory in the world.
And not to forget we won the league after being 10th at Christmas if only the World today was as happy as then :-( right i'm off to download an 64 emulator at least i'll have one of the joys of '82.

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Posh git. I was stuck with the spectrum 28k with the rubber keys and 10 mins to load a game from a cassette tape.

MUSHROOM

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02 Jan 2011 08:57:10
Liverpool Rumours
Guys I was wondering how many premiership teams do not have left footed winger in first team apart from Liverpool . .

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02 Jan 2011 08:55:14
Ralf Rangnick for Liverpool manager has the making of turning out to be our Christian Gross. A total and utter disaster.

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02 Jan 2011 08:26:08
I remember in the mid 1990's when Arsenal having sacked George Graham , employed Englishman Bruce Rioch , it did not work and Bruce Rioch was sacked in August 1996 with Stewart Huston taking temporary control .

Then Arsenal hired Arsene Wenger in the Autumn of 1996 and they went on to make history .

It is perhaps as similarly an ambitious appointment required by LFC now .

1977

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02 Jan 2011 08:06:31
Many times this season we have looked forward to the next game with renewed anticipation , however 'we have got to beat Blackburn away now! otherwise we are simply having our time wasted again' .

Looking forward to competing for the FA Cup and Europa League .

1977

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02 Jan 2011 08:01:02
Liverpool Rumours
Ed i read a post where someone says Roy didn't have any choice than to sign Konchesky. Was the guy dozing when we were presented with a chance to sign Salcido but Roy waited for fulham to get him bcos the Konk was his first choice and he later went for him for a price higher than Salcidos. Roy as a manager is just like fire monitering petrol. He has no clue about management, no creativity, no tactics and he is playing the same football and formation Rafa used to play last season. Am i the only one who thinks because of Roys age, he feel so confident to play with old players who have no football kowledge{soto, poulson konk etc} than some of the youngsters who have really impressed so far this season{kelly, shelvey, wilson etc}. I am not sure Roy has a clue about modern football and i will like to see his back as soon as possible. I will appreciate anyones comments expecially the eds. Impresive site, wonderful eds, marvellous job, and fantastic fans.

FAMOUS {ed's note - I do often wonder why he has such a reliance on experienced players, even though they have let him down every week. I wonder if it is related to his age?}

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02 Jan 2011 07:44:04
Liverpool Rumours
BABBEL & THOMMO

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02 Jan 2011 07:29:22
It's amazing the confidence that comes with a win , a long time coming already , and we are looking up and forwards to the next game .

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02 Jan 2011 07:11:03
Liverpool Rumours
MARKUS BABBEL

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02 Jan 2011 06:32:40
Not bad for an iPod mate i'm still struggling with my Commodore 64.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Ahh the Commodore 64, brings me back sniff sniff
1982 when 8 Bits seemed like all the memory in the world.
And not to forget we won the league after being 10th at Christmas if only the World today was as happy as then :-( right i'm off to download an 64 emulator at least i'll have one of the joys of '82.

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02 Jan 2011 06:18:19
First off. Koncheski's treatment by small majority of dkhds is just appalling, shameful, embarrassing and dam right disrespectful. Ok the lad isn't goodenough for first team but still it's a disgrace.

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I was outright embarassed Wednesday night when he got jeered off! Slowly losing some of our dignity as supporters with some of the comments I've seen and heard about Roy & Konchesky in particular.
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If your mum insulted Liverpool Football Club and referred to fans as "scouse squm" and used other obsenities to describe them, I'm sure you wouldn't be a popular figure at Anfield.

I think what the poster was referring to was what we stand for as supporters of Liverpool. We are constantly referred to as great "supporters" but there has been very little evidence of that the past couple of months. Maybe the s* te that was H&G has changed how Liverpool supporters react to diversity, but I hope not. Some of the vitriol directed at the manager and players (even if they are not good enough) is way below the standard WE set ourselves when maintaing we are the best in the world. Let's think about that before attacking everbody in what essentially is a bad period, but certainly not the worst in our long history. After todays result the best thing all us fans could do is support LIVERPOOL F.C., that includes all connected with it. Get behind the team until the end of the season at least, be the 13th man again and let them hear our voice in support not complaint, who knows it may help all of us out this bad spell.

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02 Jan 2011 06:17:23
Liverpool Rumours
Ed all this carp that we need a rw is driving me mad we have a perfect rw in johnson in fact i think he would relish in the position and be our new bale. we only need to sign 3 players in jan

JAN INS

taiwo/ contrau-6m/ 15m
llorente/ hulk/ benzema-26m/ 17m/ 16m
jarvis/ mata/ payet-6m/ 17m/ 10m

TOTAL 28M MIN 58MAX

JAN OUTS

soto
poulson
kuyt
maxi


SQUAD

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KELLY. . .AGGER. . .WILSON. . .TAIWO.

JOHNSON. . GERRARD. MEIRELES. . JARVIS

. . . . . LLORENTE. . TORRES. .

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02 Jan 2011 04:23:36
Every 1 on this site can agree with me that fabio aurelio is and will be our main left-back. great game against bolton, ive really missed him starting for us. welcome back fabio aurelio, and great game dan agger

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02 Jan 2011 04:14:09
Roy u are very lucky that steven gerrard was their to fire the whole team up. good work joe cole, great positioning and credit to maxi who had a good game. ive heard mertesacker being linked with us?? and ed u said hes too slow for the pl. ed look at krygiakos, his first touch against bolton was terrible, and he was a bit shaky for the minutes he was on. if krygiakos can play in the pl, then surely mertersacker can, that's my opinion.

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02 Jan 2011 03:17:12
Liverpool Rumours
Lucas must stay here untill Banega or M'vila comes to us

Blazing Angel

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02 Jan 2011 02:50:48
Next 5 Premiership matches:
Blackburn (away), Blackpool (away), Everton (home), Wolves (away) & Fulham (home).

No matter who the manager I would expect 13 points minimum taking into consideration the standard of the teams and their current league positions.

If Roy is been given some more time then that's how I'm going to judge him.

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02 Jan 2011 02:43:07
Gary Cahill played a blinder on behalf of Liverpool today. Took a few pops at Torres & got a reaction. Torres was wound up for the rest of the match then and finally started making things happen.

Same again in the next match please Fernando. Then he'll be ready for his season ritual of making a fool of Vidic.

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02 Jan 2011 02:42:07
Liverpool Rumours
Per Mertesacker, Sylvain Merveaux, Hoarou and Keisuke Honda to join in January, possible move for either Daniel Sturridge or Mario Gomez at the end of the month. Daniel Agger, Christian Poulsen and Paul Konchesky to leave, Insua to come back from his loan at Galatasaray to replace Konchesky at left back. Full side:

Reina
Johnson-Carragher-Mertesacker-Insua
Meireles-Lucas
Honda-Gerrard-Marveux/ Kuyt
Torres

Bench: Jones, Kelly, Skrtel, Maxi, Babel, Pacheco, Hoarou

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02 Jan 2011 02:15:31
If we were to get marveaux, elia, m'vilia and hoarau i would be happy.two left mids a striker and a decent dm is what we need.hoarau would take so much pressure off torres and defenders would have to deal with him.hes really tall and huge.would fit right in.elia would be first choice lm and marveaux can play there or lb.so we have more options.m'vila would be great next to gerrard johnson rm and elia lm would look solid.bring in kelly as rb as johnson was at fault again for boltons goal.team would be:

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- -kelly- - skrtel- - agger- - -aurelio

-johnson- gerrard- m'vilia- - - elia

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manager dalglish n thompson til summer as boas coyle klopp laudrup etc not available til then.DORSET RED

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02 Jan 2011 02:06:45
Best team at the moment is:

reina
kelly
skrtel
agger
aurelio
johnson
gerrard
meireles
maxi
cole
torres

team after jan transfers
reina
kelly
carragher
agger
aurelio
johnson
gerrard
m'vilia 15m
marveaux 2m
torres
horrau 8m

bench:cole, ngog, kuyt, skrtel, wilson, pacheco, maxi, jones

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02 Jan 2011 02:05:26
Liverpool Rumours
Paul Konchesky will not be leaving Liverpool this transfer window and join West Ham on loan as he would be unable to play for another club due to playing for Fulham and Liverpool this season. Fifa, do us a favour and change your rules so we can get this berk out of the club and as far away from Liverpool as possible!

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02 Jan 2011 02:04:01
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed, thanks for the comments on mertesacker I think his great footballing brain and his german robot mentality would be more than enough to cope with the epl arsenal seem to think so. Agger left back skirtal mertesacker centre backs Kelly right back solid again.cheers Jodethered

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02 Jan 2011 01:56:44
Liverpool Rumours
Just something I noticed today after about 20 minutes we played with Rafas team, I liked him and think he would have got more out of them than Roy BUT his time was up If we are going to replace him how about Gus Poyet 5 today and they play the game well.

That's all from me touchline tommy

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02 Jan 2011 01:55:56
Liverpool Rumours
I was just reading our managers post match comments and could not believe what I was reading. At one point he said that whatever the outcome he was satisfied with the performance! This is why he has to go. Our performance was mediocre at best. Still lacking pace, width and creativity as with every other single game we've played this season but roy is happy with it. The man is a joke. How he still has a job after the wolves game is beyond comprehension but surely these comments show how ridiculous the man is. The blackburn game can't come soon enough. We will not play well, we will not win and maybe, just maybe we will not have a clown for a manager anymore! Rant over.

Redfish

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02 Jan 2011 01:55:27
Hi Ed, the back pages are saying kenny and Tommo will be asked to take over until the end of the season? what have you heard Ed? I would be made up if its true, whats your thoughts Ed. childwall Ian.

{Editor's Note: I hope not.}

You hope not ed? care to say why, would be worse than roy? come on mate a mad monkey could fire players up better than roy.

{Editor's Note: Forward not back for me. Nothing else.}

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02 Jan 2011 01:52:51
Liverpool Rumours
Roys best signing so far was getting aurelio back! !

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02 Jan 2011 01:51:16
Liverpool Rumours
Marveaux and Hoarau a good possibility I am reading? More average signings at Liverpool. They probably aren't an improvement on what we already have at the club. Someone should tell Camolli there are other markets other than the French market. But he hasn't been here long though so prepared to see what he and the manager do in the Summer. Lets hope it isn't a Summer of buying more average Frencies.

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02 Jan 2011 01:39:46
First off. Koncheski's treatment by small majority of dkhds is just appalling, shameful, embarrassing and dam right disrespectful. Ok the lad isn't goodenough for first team but still it's a disgrace.

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I was outright embarassed Wednesday night when he got jeered off! Slowly losing some of our dignity as supporters with some of the comments I've seen and heard about Roy & Konchesky in particular.
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If your mum insulted Liverpool Football Club and referred to fans as "scouse scum" and used other obsenities to describe them, I'm sure you wouldn't be a popular figure at Anfield.

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02 Jan 2011 01:23:18
Ive been thinking about roy, if he is sacked tomorrow like i was hoping for, and they brought in a new manager then in the next few weeks some new players how would we know its the new manager that is good and not just the new players, lets give roy till the end of the transfer window see who is brought in and see how we get on, we would still get the same players, cos roy is not picking them on his own, then see what he does with them, he must obviously know now that we want attacking football it must surely be against him if he still plays his own formations without listening to the crowd, hey he might even learn, after all the calling and of konchesky he must be distraught, all he wanted to do was play football for liverpool, ok he is not good enough but he should not have got that stick that he did,
my 2 grandsons 8 and 10 lost their mum she was 34 with cancer, and youngest grandson put his liverpool top in coffin with his mum, we got a call to say that liverpool have invited dan and dom to liverpool to have a look round and meet some players, they met a few players and one was konchesky they were made up and he made them feel so special, we all cried like mad,

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02 Jan 2011 01:15:11
Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - I just think it would make it difficult for the next man coming in, a bit like it has been difficult for Roy following Rafa.}
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I just think it's been difficult Roy Ed because the job was just to big for him.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - yes, but he was never a popular choice because of who he was following, that put him at a disadvantage. The next guy would be at an even bigger disadvantage if he had to follow Kenny, especially if the King had any kind of success.}

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02 Jan 2011 01:04:55
35, 400 at yesterdays game,
NESV take note!

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02 Jan 2011 01:04:04
Liverpool Rumours
He's an idea why not go for Lucas padolski he had a cracking world cup an would only be about 15 mill would be great partner for torres and can play on the wing aswell

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02 Jan 2011 00:46:37
Liverpool Rumours
We should get lucas barrios and nuri sahin for 15m each two good signings and we have 50m to spend(or else dzeko payet and matuidi)

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02 Jan 2011 00:40:47
02 Jan 2011 00:16:19
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed, the back pages are saying kenny and Tommo will be asked to take over until the end of the season? what have you heard Ed? I would be made up if its true, whats your thoughts Ed. childwall Ian.

{Editor's Note: I hope not.}
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Ed would you not take them back as long as it was just to the end of the season? The way i'm feeling i would but just on the condition it was only to the end of the season.

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - I just think it would make it difficult for the next man coming in, a bit like it has been difficult for Roy following Rafa.}

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02 Jan 2011 00:39:06
{ed's note - any of those managers would have done far better, the guy is clearly on a wind up. It has been improved since last season when it finished 7th, so it should be pushing for the top 5.}

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After the win today we're not far off top 5. Where's the major improvements in the squad? Hodgsons shipped out 20 dead wood players, would do more if he could but certain players would rather languish on the bench than take a reduced salary for regular football. Benitez brought in Jovanavich, Mascherano threw his dolls out of th pram and Meireless was found at short notice as a replacement (arguments for and against as to improvement on Mascherano). Ensua replaced with Koncheski (again arguments for and against as to whether an improvement). So does Joe Cole warrant a significant improvement on last season? {ed's note - he chose to get rid of Insua and replace him with Konchesky, he chose to farm out Ayala on loan as well and use Skrtel and Kyrgiakos who are clearly not good enough. He chose to send Aqualani out on loan (even though I don't think he is up to the job for England it was still his choice not to use his services). The only player we really lost, that he had no control over, was Mash. Hardly a loss when Roy plays 4-4-2 anyway, one midfielder was always going to have to make way. He made the decision not to give Pacheco and the other youngsters a chance after they performed well in the Europa League and send them back to the stiffs. He is the one who is consistently sticking with underachieving players week after week, rather than dropping them. There is only one man to blame for the fact we are not fighting for a Champions League place in a League which has seen all the top teams drop more points than usual.}

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02 Jan 2011 00:37:50
02 Jan 2011 00:21:59
Wolves didn't give us much freedom to play Redchris fair enough. But that's the whole problem with Hodgson's tactic's. When teams sit behind the ball against us we have no width or creativity to break them down. We had one chance against Wolves and that was it surely that's not good enough? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Believe me mate no where near good enough I won't be fully happy till were out playing Barcelona but I'm on my iPod at the min so can't be bothered to write lengthy posts but yh totally agree have been saying for years our restricted movement off the ball and lack of width is embarrassing I could go on for days about what's wrong with the club and management but would need a real keyboard to get it all down. Redchris
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Not bad for an iPod mate i'm still struggling with my Commodore 64.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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02 Jan 2011 00:29:38
Because Whiskey Nose, Matt Busby, Arsen Wenger, Brian Clough, Bob Paisley, Bill Shankly, Joe Fagan, Roy Evans or Kenny Dalglish wouldn't have been able to do much better with the squad of players Roy inhereted and the time he's had to turn things around. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I'm not too sure about that I personally think with the squad he has and let's not forget some of the youth a better job could have been done Ed would be nice to hear your views on this I think the squad is getting branded as worse than it is it's certainly better than our league posis suggests. Redchris {ed's note - any of those managers would have done far better, the guy is clearly on a wind up. It has been improved since last season when it finished 7th, so it should be pushing for the top 5.}

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Im not on a wind up, Roy started life with clear poblems at left back in isolation (a fat ball watcher in Ensua and no time to find a replacement so he stuck with what he knew), strikers in terms of Torres being the lone ranger, a dearth of natural left footed players, no opportunity for any width in the resources available and a holding midfielder in Mascherano who threw his dummy out the pram when he didint get his own way and did the dirty on the club who saved his career. Roys given some of the youth a chance and has blooded them at choice times. Correct me if Im wrong but the aforementioned managers did'nt possess magic wands, so I doubt very much that they would've done any better given the above circumstances in a time frame of 5 months. {ed's note - you are seriously insane if you think no one could have done better than Roy. Coyle has shown how to turn an underachieving side round with good management. Roy's problem is he panicked, he came in and panic bought without thinking it through. He has not exactly given the youth a chance, except in meaningless cup games, they need league experience.}

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02 Jan 2011 00:21:59
Wolves didn't give us much freedom to play Redchris fair enough. But that's the whole problem with Hodgson's tactic's. When teams sit behind the ball against us we have no width or creativity to break them down. We had one chance against Wolves and that was it surely that's not good enough? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Believe me mate no where near good enough I won't be fully happy till were out playing Barcelona but I'm on my iPod at the min so can't be bothered to write lengthy posts but yh totally agree have been saying for years our restricted movement off the ball and lack of width is embarrassing I could go on for days about what's wrong with the club and management but would need a real keyboard to get it all down. Redchris

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02 Jan 2011 00:21:03
There's a lot of tripe written here but I have to take issue with some of the regular bile. Kuyt and Lucas played ok today; Lucas must have been watching videos of Tommy Smith and Souey - giving Cahill a dose of his own medicine. Well played lad. Some of you have got your pants so twisted that you've lost sight of what's actually happening on the pitch. We missed Kuyt when he didn't play - he deserves his place (in the right place). There are much, much worse players than these two. Anyway, goodbye Roy / it wasn't much fun.
Newtydreads

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02 Jan 2011 00:16:19
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed, the back pages are saying kenny and Tommo will be asked to take over until the end of the season? what have you heard Ed? I would be made up if its true, whats your thoughts Ed. childwall Ian.

{Editor's Note: I hope not.}

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02 Jan 2011 00:11:39
Liverpool Rumours
Torres wants to leave! Torres is unhappy! Then why did he blow a kiss to the fans and put his hand to his ear to motivate them. He is as dedicated to this club as much as he was the day he signed. I know it's only one win but I have faith in Roy and co and believe we will fight back.

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02 Jan 2011 00:10:30
Liverpool Rumours
What do you make of the telegraph story suggesting a caretaker manager ed? Surely not dalglish? Thanks ed!

{Editor's Note: Let's hope it is not true.}

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02 Jan 2011 00:03:59
First off. Koncheski's treatment by small majority of dkhds is just appalling, shameful, embarrassing and dam right disrespectful. Ok the lad isn't goodenough for first team but still it's a disgrace.

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I was outright embarassed Wednesday night when he got jeered off! Slowly losing some of our dignity as supporters with some of the comments I've seen and heard about Roy & Konchesky in particular.

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02 Jan 2011 00:03:24
01 Jan 2011 23:48:30
Better than wolves performance put it that way maybe because Bolton gave us more freedom to play we were terrible against wolves but I don't think they got enough credit for there performance. Redchris
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Wolves didn't give us much freedom to play Redchris fair enough. But that's the whole problem with Hodgson's tactic's. When teams sit behind the ball against us we have no width or creativity to break them down. We had one chance against Wolves and that was it surely that's not good enough?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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02 Jan 2011 00:02:28
Liverpool Rumours
Its only been 1 full day and people are already asking who we have signed. You must get that so many times a day. I got an idea. Why don't you create a page listing all transfers completed and rumors you've heard. So you don't get asked every 2 minutes.

To the people asking about who we've signed, why don't you ask in 2 weeks time, things will be clearer then.

{Editor's Note: A decent thought but the issue appears to be laziness in reading anything other than a response to their own message.}

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Maybe just a obviously link on the page so its easy to see. Yeah but a lot of people are lazy. {ed's note - no point, no one ever reads anything already on the page and just repeat the same questions over and over. That isn't going to change if you put them up another page to ignore.}

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01 Jan 2011 23:55:25
Because Whiskey Nose, Matt Busby, Arsen Wenger, Brian Clough, Bob Paisley, Bill Shankly, Joe Fagan, Roy Evans or Kenny Dalglish wouldn't have been able to do much better with the squad of players Roy inhereted and the time he's had to turn things around. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I'm not too sure about that I personally think with the squad he has and let's not forget some of the youth a better job could have been done Ed would be nice to hear your views on this I think the squad is getting branded as worse than it is it's certainly better than our league posis suggests. Redchris {ed's note - any of those managers would have done far better, the guy is clearly on a wind up. It has been improved since last season when it finished 7th, so it should be pushing for the top 5.}

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