Liverpool Banter Archive August 02 2016

 

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02 Aug 2016 21:27:10
So it has been reported that we are looking at Danny Drinkwater for CM role. Price of £30mil seems very steep. have any of you heard about this interest?

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02 Aug 2016 22:57:48
Doubt we'll sign another midfielder mate, we have plenty.

We need a specialist full back.


02 Aug 2016 23:14:40
That would be one of the worst wastes of £30m since we asked Newcastle about Carroll. Drinkwater only good because of Kante. He's a really very average footballer and we should avoid like the plague.


02 Aug 2016 23:33:01
Wheres the emoji where it's banging it's head against a wall .


03 Aug 2016 00:25:02
noooooo
Please just it is wrong!


03 Aug 2016 02:10:59
No-one's asked the most important question though. Which is how good is Drinkwater at playing left back?!


03 Aug 2016 05:29:22
He could sit on Henderson's shoulder during the match.


03 Aug 2016 05:33:26
maybe manninger can do a job at lb?


02 Aug 2016 21:26:52
Ok, after watching 3 games Live, here is my view.

LB- Milner has done well, and looked one of our better players, Moreno well the less said the better

CB- Lovern has been terrible, I hope matip gets fit soon! Klavan looks like Stirtle
Midfield- best player by a mile is Coutinho, don't play him on the left! also Winajldam is playing as a holding/ box to box? not sure if that works.

Striker- Sturridge looks shot already, has missed at least 5 sitters and doesn't seem interested, Origi the best forward I saw by a mile, he looks sharp. Ings not up to the standard we need. Sane lots of running and maybe potential, needs to look up and find his shooting boots.

Also can I say the treatment of our 32.5m striker is shocking, he was the only person on Tour not to feature at all! why take him? i'm sorry but benteke may not suit the style however he has quality, and if we sell him and get no replacement we will not score enough goals this year.

I must say the fans out here have done the club proud, lots of vocal support, on Saturday we stayed in the Ground for 30 mins after singing YNWA hanks for reading, don't slate me too much, Just my humble opinion.

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02 Aug 2016 22:53:07
Well done mate, backing the Reds on tour.
YNWA.


02 Aug 2016 22:58:27
Some interesting points RedinCa. As you know, I was in Pasadena for the match against Chelsea and I must say that the support for the Reds was amazing (though there were a fair few Chelsea fans out there too) .

I disgaree on Lovren, who I think has tried to step up and be the dominant CB. Like Henderson, Sakho, Milner, Lallana and Mignolet, I think he has a big season coming ahead of him, and it is certainly make or break time for him like the others I mention. Klavan alike Skrtel! Haha, I was going to post that after the Chelsea game but thought better of it; he looks a bit too eager at times but I think he will probably be okay for us. Moreno - well I was shocked at how truly brainless some of his decision making was at the Chelsea game. On TV, you don't see certain things like positioning off the ball, the following of your direct opponent etc, but in real time, you see these things and I can honestly say I was amazed at some of his decision making. I cannot see him making drastic improvements to his game over the season either if he has not in over 2 years since he got here. One other player who looked as bad as Moreno was Randall who is the invisible man in defense.

I can understand the Benteke situation too. Klopp has no interest in him, so why should he play him when he can play Origi, Sturridge, Firmino and Ings, all of whom need match time to get back to fitness for different reasons.

Coutinho, Mane and Ejaria were the standouts for me in the game against Chelsea, and overall so far in the pre-season too.


02 Aug 2016 23:02:02
You don't think Sturridge, Origi, Ings and Firmino as 4 strikers can get enough goals?

Midfield will also be chipping in more his year if JK has achieved what he had hoped with signing Mane and Wijnaldum.

Benteke doesn't need replacing. Adding a 5th striker to the above list won't help. Quality over quantity my friend, and simply adding a 5th won't help. For a start what's going to happen to the 4 we already have? We will only play 1 or 2 up front so that's a lot of wasted players and money.

Just can't see it myself.


02 Aug 2016 23:02:27
Agree with your assessment in the main, however it is preseason and far too early to start assessing individuals. However thinking about starting the season with moreno at left back is giving me nightmares.


02 Aug 2016 23:16:24
It's preseason. Relax.


03 Aug 2016 00:01:23
Thanks for the replies Guys, I am excited however nervous with this season and especially our first 5 games! It could make or break us early. Also it seems the amount of pre season games we are playing is far more than anyone else? (7 so far, Roma was an add on nothing to do with ICC)
Thoughts from any of the ed's on the number of pre-season games I think it will be 9 in Total?


03 Aug 2016 00:10:23
I thought mane was are best player of pre season . I love and rate coutinho as the best player we got at the club but his not been great agaist millian and Rome . But I can't wait to see Sturridge coutinho firminho mane in a frout 4 hopefully Klopp plays them agaist Rome.


03 Aug 2016 00:30:52
I think klavan looked pretty solid when I watched him.


{Ed007's Note - (giggle)

03 Aug 2016 01:37:59
I disagree with Milner at lb, I thought his positioning was poor and his tracking back was worse, he exposed the centre halves time and time again.
Even when going forward to me he was unimpressive, got in good positions yet his final ball was dreadful, kept trying to lift it to the back post when a low drilled ball or cut back would've been more effective.
I suppose that's what you get for playing an average winger at fullback. I think I'd rather have Moreno there, at least he has some pace to recover from his bad positioning.


03 Aug 2016 05:15:59
Alexi Sanchez Vs Milner
Sorry No contest at all. We will concede plenty!


03 Aug 2016 09:04:10
We signed Sané? Cool! We must've 'swooped in' and 'highjacked' or 'gazumped' Man City with an 'audacious' bid. :)


02 Aug 2016 20:23:06
Eds and Reds

What are you throughts on the lb situation?

If we are going to sign someone, would you prefer us to sign an older player to rotate with youth and bring them through or sign someone younger and more expensive?

Id rather us bring youth through and not sign anyone but if we have to i think signing an experienced lb would be better than gambling on another Moreno.

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02 Aug 2016 20:53:33
Milner is our new left back. The sooner fans come to this realisation the better.


02 Aug 2016 21:03:28
Just sign a Left Back, not another forward or winger, a LEFT BACK .


02 Aug 2016 21:08:06
We need to sign one quality player and it could be anyone, young or old.


02 Aug 2016 21:19:18
@forzared

You say you would bring someone through from the youth setup? Can I ask who?

I haven't seen anyone who I think could make the step up currently and the Eds don't seem to think there is either. Although, you never know with young players.


02 Aug 2016 21:33:28
Tbh Forza the whole situation regarding a left back is comical and a joke. As eds have said we've decided not to offer the correct figures to get anyone in the door. It was a priority position we needed to fill and here we are less then 2 weeks before season starts and we have Moreno and Milner as options. doesn't strike me with any confidence going into the news season.

Were all aaking eds daily for updates but I think we just need to see what happens and Hopefully we will get one in before first game.


02 Aug 2016 23:00:34
Juanma is the new LB for the U23s next season with Joe Maguire moving to CB to partner Brewitt.


02 Aug 2016 23:52:08
I thought milners looked like the best left back we've had in years to be honest. Not perfect no, but if he can do that in 2 preseason games then I think he'll be fine. I'm really not worried.


03 Aug 2016 06:27:06
Milner hasn't played lb in a long time (if at all) of course his positioning will be wayward. If you played any level of football you would know it's not that simple just to change positions. Whether he's good enough I don't know but super harsh to judge him on his first couple of games.


03 Aug 2016 15:01:47
Milner is not a left back, end of. Our ability to completely screw up the simplest of things like finding a left back is uncanny. We need a left back, a true left back and not a band aid. This situation is turning into a farce.


02 Aug 2016 19:02:39
Second decent team Liverpool have played and lost again. I am afraid that the quality is just not there. Football is a simple game if only some of the managers and owners of clubs knew that.

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02 Aug 2016 19:19:15
Going off friendlies then united must be favourites for the league.

I thought friendlies where for getting match fit.


02 Aug 2016 19:22:21
*second decent team liverpool have played in an irrelevant fitness building, non-competitive match. Optimism for players who perform well in friendlies is okay, slagging off everyone when we don't is not. Save your comments for when we're 10 games into the new season.


02 Aug 2016 19:32:17
Chill buddy, it's just a friendly and a chance to give players a runout and check fitness and progression. It also allows new players to start blending with the team, and integrate youth team to see what level they are at. Don't be too downbeat or negative, support, trust and believe.


02 Aug 2016 19:39:13
TheOne = doubter . 🙄.


02 Aug 2016 19:40:30
You also use these games to see how your playing and we were sh*te. Our midfield was non existent and Mignolet, Moreno and Wisdom showed they're simply not up to it.


{Ed001's Note - no you do not, you use them to get fit. It usually takes a few games of the season before players get there game together. No one would ever judge a players form on a preseason friendly, if they had any sense.}

02 Aug 2016 19:41:45
@TheOne oh, do shut up!


02 Aug 2016 19:57:03
we are severely lacking at left back and centre midfield. It's obvious now and it will become blindingly obvious when the horror shows we saw too often last year get repeated again. It fills me with dread going into the new season with Moreno at left back, Mignolet in goal and the possibility of Wijnaldum playing as one of the central midfield pairing.


02 Aug 2016 20:17:04
A pre season friendly is used as a training session.


02 Aug 2016 20:18:30
What's the point of the season then? Let's just give the title to Chelsea and be done with it, they are walking the league with 38 1-0 wins!


02 Aug 2016 20:25:29
Oh for crying out loud.


02 Aug 2016 20:49:48
Lads, will you all just chill, it was only a friendly, who are we playing next, Barcelona, no problem, just play them at their own game, okay we might get beat, but were going to get beat anyway, by a lot of goals, so might as well enjoy all the goals, the good news, we won't be playing Barcelona again for a while .


02 Aug 2016 21:04:35
It's someone obviously fishing so why are you playing into this particular posters hands by biting?


02 Aug 2016 21:09:59
If Wijnaldum keeps playing in the middle then we are certain to repeat Roma. Thought our midfield were non existent.


02 Aug 2016 22:37:15
Ed 1 is right, pre-season games are about getting fit, and about keeping the sponsors happy!


02 Aug 2016 23:01:49
Like the manager has been saying forever, pre-season is the time to build the fitness up and build up to the season. If mistakes are made and players and play exposed, I rather it be here than during the season.


02 Aug 2016 23:17:30
Said before and will say again, Wijnaldum is not a centre midfielder. We'll get battered from here to kingdom come if we go with him in that position.


03 Aug 2016 06:54:12
I like how everyone is disagreeing with the fact that wijnaldum shouldn't be used in the 2 central midfield pairing with can or Henderson. If it's a midfield 3 then fine, but are people that blind that they can't see how unbalanced we are with him partnering either can or Henderson. Henderson and can has so be the two in a 4-2-3-1, I know the system changes against certain opposition but that's a mainstay for me, otherwise we are even more of an open book through the middle and Lord knows we will have the same problems on the left and in goal with Moreno and mignolet our best available for those respective positions.


03 Aug 2016 08:38:18
Jeese, Shanks, did GW bang your misses or what?


02 Aug 2016 17:17:40
Origi or Sturridge even Ings to be our main man next season what's people's views


Also we need to strengthen our full back areas especially with flanno looking likely to leave.

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02 Aug 2016 17:43:12
Fitness permitting, Sturridge is still the main man. He still offers a lot more than the other two. Second choice is Origi for me, even though the gap between him and Ings is not that big. I'll be very happy if I'm asking myself to choose between Sturridge and Origi at the end of next season (because it'll mean Origi has progressed that much further) .


02 Aug 2016 17:55:45
If it's one up top I think it has to be Origi. Sturridge isn't suited to playing up there on his own. Would like to see the two of them together sometimes though.


02 Aug 2016 18:08:53
Does anyone think Sturridge is a different player since his return from injury? He had a good arsenal of weapons but something seems to be lacking. His decision making seems slower, maybe he's lost a little pace, maybe trying to hard and being dispossessed too easily.


02 Aug 2016 18:16:37
Origi. the main man up front.
I'm still not convinced Sturridge will ever get back to his very best. I'd like to be proved wrong though.


02 Aug 2016 18:25:50
Don't think studge is fully match fit yet after his injury, he didn't seem to have full confidence in his body either, unsurprisingly really.
But i would have no problem whatsoever rotating studge and origi depending on the opposition, both can do a decent job upfront, so we are spoilt in a way, means we can manage studge and his fitness rather than over rely on him. Plus we have Ings who will have to be managed somewhat as well after a long time out, I can see origi getting a fair chunk of the time available upfront, maybe even the lions share.
I don't think we will see 2 strikers in the starting line up much, firmino as a supporting striker yeah but can't imagine 2 out of origi, studge and Ings will starting many games.
Lots of great options upfront to get excited about this season.


02 Aug 2016 18:25:55
Depends how the other team plays in my opinion all three are superb against a high line as got the skill for when the likes of chelsea play and have 11 behind the ball we seen before he was injured origi how explosive he can be and ings can play of the last man.


02 Aug 2016 18:26:51
I'm not so sure we shouldn't cash in on sturridge now. I really like the guy and he's a great striker when fit. Thing is we have two other really good strikers who, IMO, have higher ceilings than he does. And they can already produce, while building a team around sturridge is SUCH a risk.


02 Aug 2016 18:59:13
For me, Origi is best suited to play on his own. Studge needs someone close to him because he drops deep to pick up the ball. Ings is a good player which if need be, can play on either flank and make dangerous inside runs to score.


02 Aug 2016 18:41:14
Liver_La - I agree with you. I think Origi should be first choice, he has so much talent. It's funny, I never rated him until Klopp took over. He has so much talent and to my mind is the most improved player at the club. I think given the opportunity, he will really kick on this season. I know the goal he scored against AC Milan was preseason but it oozed class and a player ready to take his chance.


02 Aug 2016 19:41:36
I'd love to see us play with two strikers up top again. That season with Suarez and Sturridge was one of the best I've seen since Rush and Dalglish played together. Sadly there's too much fear in football these days so it's all packed midfields and false 9s :- (


02 Aug 2016 20:03:21
If we play Sturridge as striker and even if we don't want to play two strikers, isn't Origi by far the better option we have for attacking midfielder or winger? who is better in this role other than Couts? Not even Firmino in my view and surely no one else.


02 Aug 2016 20:28:37
I think playing two upfront will work really well with these two, Sturridge likes to drop deeper occasionally while Origi is a more classic no.9 and always in the box. Play a diamond with Firmino in behind them too and the setup has goals written all over it.


02 Aug 2016 20:51:47
Got to be Origi, the rest are all lacking something, he is our best hope right now .


02 Aug 2016 21:11:02
Zimbo

Where would you fit in Mane?


02 Aug 2016 21:28:31
It's a really interesting conundrum and one I'm happy that we have.

I think all three are a little different and will offer you something different as a striker.

Ings remains for me a bit of an unknown due to the low number of matches he's played under JK. I think he'll be a good fit for JK but right now we don't know.

Sturridge we know all about, he hasn't hit his pre injury best yet though. Some are doubting if he ever will, personally I think we'll see him back to his high standard again although the form he showed playing with Suarez was another level that only playing with a world class partner can create.

Origi has become a bit of a favourite under JK. He seems almost a compeltely different player to the one we saw under BR; fair play to the lad! I'm hoping he builds on his good displays last year. I'd say right now he's the one of the three who best suits our system and I'm most looking forward to seeing play. I'm going to say if he stays injury free (fat chance, I know, going off last seasons luck with injuries) he'll get 20 goals.


02 Aug 2016 21:34:14
Where he will score some goals, he needs to up his game .


02 Aug 2016 22:30:01
Yuri, he could play at no.10 in a diamond but I'd prefer Firmino for creativity. Mane suits right attacking midfield in a 4-2-3-1 in my view (or right wing in a 4-3-3) and in that setup I'd probably play Origi at the moment as he's the better at holdup play and bringing attacking midfielders into the game.

I think formation is horses for courses so diamond vs. some teams and 4-2-3-1 vs others.


02 Aug 2016 23:02:39
Sturridge, but with his injury record, I think Origi and Ings will get plenty of game time. It will certainly be interesting to see how Klopp deals with the forwards.


02 Aug 2016 23:46:30
They will both be the main men, different games require different tactics and both have qualities the other doesn't.

People are too quick to dismiss sturridge, if not for the second half collapse in the europa final we would still be talking about his goal. Top class player that needs time to get back to full fitness and form.

Origi has plenty of potential and can be as good as sturridge if not better in a few years time. Both big assets to the team.


03 Aug 2016 05:19:45
Zimbo

A £35 mill impact sub? When Ojo is pretty much there to come off the bench. It's a terrible business yet again if Mane is not seen as starter.


03 Aug 2016 14:27:34
For me I think I ings need a decent chance I think he is a top striker and just needs a chance to show.


02 Aug 2016 14:47:48
Ed001 or Ed002, if you would be so kind, is there any chance you could tell us if there is anything new on ANY lb, to keep us not-in-the-know folks from constantly firing random lb names at you? Hopefully this isn't asking too much. Thanks for all you do.

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - There is nothing new right now.}

02 Aug 2016 20:52:26
Milner is not too bad .


02 Aug 2016 21:36:24
Because right now, he is all that we have, and yes I know Moreno is still there, I am starting to worry .


02 Aug 2016 23:21:42
Saying that Milner is not to bad in an uncompetitive game against opposition who can't really be arsed is one thing, but when he's mugged off week in week out by half decent wingers will you be saying the same thing? Genuinely think we're going into this season badly prepared in not bringing in a decent left back and solid defensive midfielder.


03 Aug 2016 07:49:52
It's just p*ss poor bad management to be honest - LB obviously needed but let's sign some more mids - you couldn't make it up.


03 Aug 2016 09:53:25
Agree with Johnny and its a decision which can only have been made by someone with little to no footballing knowledge or experience. That the club still seems content in allowing such major gaffs in the transfer window is a surprise - they need better people in charge because clearly those responsible for negotiating, setting prices and getting deals through aren't doing it well enough. Yeah 25mil on an average midfielder but for a position we need? No let's not pay the extra 2 mil. In fact we could of signed Zielinski and Chilwell (both first choices for Klopp) for a very similar price to that which we paid for Wijnaldum. I'll never understand it.


02 Aug 2016 14:06:56
Hi eds, just curious on question match fitness. Ppl are saying national players just came into squad and are not yet match fit e. g Can, Henderson, Lallana etc. But seriously they were out on pitch playing international matches just 2 weeks ago. How can 2 weeks of holidays result in such deterioration of fitness?

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{Ed001's Note - because they should be resting on those two weeks off and your body loses peak performance very quickly.}

02 Aug 2016 14:54:07
Thanks ed001 for reply. appreciate that.


02 Aug 2016 15:55:54
Correct me if I'm wrong but after doing no excercise for 4 days you start to lose fitness.


02 Aug 2016 16:01:29
Guys,

Get a feeling that Klopp can have any number of training sessions as he likes

To me the team match fit
To make them press harder
To make them play according to his tactics

But at the end of the day if there isn't quality with the players (read ability), they will all look like machines . (3, 4 players running after the same ball / player and loosing positions quickly.

Looks like we will get same place as last time or one better because of less fixture schedules.

Cheers.


02 Aug 2016 16:19:42
Your anaerobic threshold and V02 max drop after about a week.

Add to the fact they've probably been drink and eating crap.


02 Aug 2016 16:25:55
Believe it or not, you start to lose your fitness 24 to 48 hrs after your exercises.


02 Aug 2016 17:37:17
Wrong theory boys and girls.

When you 'lose fitness' it is determined by how fundamentally fit you are.


02 Aug 2016 18:25:35
every body reacts different. some players don't lose fitness some do. some regain it very fast someone slow.


02 Aug 2016 19:01:57
Reasons for why you lose fitness is not an exact science. It depends on the individual and their physical make up.


02 Aug 2016 13:47:28
Hi Ed's, is there any update on Flanno? All seems to have gone quiet. Is he going on loan? Is he not?
He was left at home from the trip to the US to decide, now the team are on the way home and he's still here.
Strange one.
I hope he stays. Seems like a stupid move to me. Clyne gets injured, he's straight in!

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{Ed002's Note - It is hard to see him having any future under Klopp.}

02 Aug 2016 14:43:34
Jesus if he does go we really do need cover in the full back areas.


02 Aug 2016 15:03:06
That's a shame. I really hope Klopp isn't relying on Randall as back up to Clyne!


02 Aug 2016 15:07:33
That's a shame ed02 as before his injury he had a great season, and that was at LB and is not his natural position. With the problems we have at left back, and of course if Clyne picks up an injury he could play a big part next season. Perhaps there is a worry regarding him picking up more injuries returning to full fitness, but surely if he goes on loan then there is still the same risk. Still baffled over our LB situation. I can't see anyone else coming in. Do you think it's stupid business to let him leave on a loan.


{Ed002's Note - I do.}

02 Aug 2016 18:50:41
Ed002, when you say no future under klopp that seems to suggest that this is not a temporary solution to let him get fitness but is a longer term issue. You really believe Flanni has no future under Klopp?


{Ed002's Note - You don't look to send a player on loan to get fit, but to get match time. Additionally, Klopp seems to be making no provision for him within the team.}

02 Aug 2016 19:03:31
Isn't it possible that Klopp wants to see him get a full measure of games, considering Clyne played 50+ last year, and he's pretty consistent and not so injury prone (knock on wood) . Randall, Wisdom, Milner, wee Stewey or one of our CBs could cover if need be. Ideally we would use the rest of this window to get one player that can be excellent at left and right back but then Flanagan actually can be that player if fully fit. Since it's a loan and not a buy I will hope it's possible Flanagan comes back, because, as everyone said, he was excellent for a stretch and likely would have pushed on if not for a terrible injury.


{Ed002's Note - You don't buy players to replace those going on loan.}

02 Aug 2016 21:08:45
looks like that we are going to have problems at both full back, goalie and midfield, but all is not lost, think were sorted in attack .


02 Aug 2016 21:17:08
Why the hate for Randall? He's much more mobile than Flanno and he's improved a lot. Can't ask more than that.


02 Aug 2016 21:54:41
You're not replacing a player going on loan, you'd be replacing a player who for some reason hasn't got a future at the club but maybe are struggling to find a buyer due to recent injury problems.

Maybe if he stays fit then he will get a permanent move next year, or if he gets injured again, I doubt he could play for us.


02 Aug 2016 13:07:23
I am very pleased with the match against Roma, because despite injury worries that would normally have had us field a below par team, we could field a very strong team.
So this season, we have depth, not just in numbers but in form. Sturridge, Ings and Origi (maybe Benteke if not so lucky), Coutino, Firmino, Mane, Milner, Henderson, Grujic, Can, Lallana, and GW (maybe Ojo if lucky) ; and the most important for me Lovren, Klavan, Matip, Sakho
The Full backs are suspect. Yes i remember that Clyne played almost all matches without an injury, but we still need someone to compete with him, while Moreno . please don't get me started on him.
I have changed my mind about buying a striker, because i see Origi pushing Sturridge and Ings pushing Origi, which would translate to more goals for us.
If we are not able to sell Benteke, he will be motivated to play his heart out, even if it is for only 10 minutes.

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02 Aug 2016 21:59:43
Sturridge isn't our best striker anymore, how csnt people see that. Origi is and should be number one for out system.

Sturridge and firmino are just to similar nowadays. Studge wants to come into the field to get the ball and make passes outside of the vox which allows any team playing us tk push up and box us in without anyone disturbing the cbs.

You can have either sturridge or finini behind origi but not both unless studge finds his pace again, which isn't looking likely, then he isn't the studge we rate he is a different type, one we have in a bundabce a number ten.

Please watch the games and his pace, movement etc. before you have a go or disagree. And just remember I didn't say hr was not good enough for us, just not our best suited striker anymore.


02 Aug 2016 12:42:54
Pre-season results mean absolutely nothing.
Two seasons ago we beat Dortmund 4-0. Cut to us going out of the Champions League immediately.
Last season, we won every game apart from a 1-1 draw with a Malaysian XI.
Cut to Rodgers being sacked before Xmas.
People need to get some perspective.

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02 Aug 2016 13:02:26
I'd be concerned if we were all match fit and hitting our peak in pre-season friendlies.
It's about building momentum, I don't expect us to be amazing in pre-season friendlies. I expect us to be rusty and finding our feet.
I expect us to be peaking for the Arsenal match.

Wijnaldum will be a very valuable player this season as will Mané. They may not contribute a lot in pre-season friendlies.
I remember one pre-season under Kenny in the 80's when we got thumped 5-1 by Atletico Madrid and then started the season with 30 games unbeaten.

I'm saving my opinions for the competitive matches. 😎.


02 Aug 2016 13:15:23
Well said flidby, it has never been a gauge to judge a season on yet people seem to think we should judge our recent buys on these friendlies. Surprised some aren't calling for klopps head after we've lost 2.


02 Aug 2016 13:25:49
I think the amount of importance placed on these pre-season games mainly comes from the fans that teams pick up through the PL being so global these days - you should see some of the debates that go on on Facebook about the matches from every corner of the earth!


02 Aug 2016 14:13:03
Preseason is just that, preseason. The games are usedFans can banter with each other and that`s fine BUT anyone who takes pre-season results seriously, needs his/ her head examined.


02 Aug 2016 18:44:56
Second half we had Wisdom, Markovic, Trent on the pitch, and Stewart out of position at CB. You can't really judge from pre-season simply because so many players are getting minutes and different combos being tried.

im happy with how things have gone so far with he sole exceptions of Karius injury (Migs shaky again for the goal), our failure to solve LB, and the injuries to our CBs (although Klavan looks useful) . One more good LB and I feel we'll be well positioned.

Im hoping for Hector because I think we need a more solid Defence than goals right now, and he can also cover CDM in case of needing a bit more bite there.


02 Aug 2016 22:02:14
Isnt that the season Dortmund where bottom of buds by Christmas. Whose to say us and Roma won't both get popped this season.

For me Itd the dame problem. We address am, st, cb, gk summer after summer and its the middle of the park where all our failings come from.

We can't control a game from the middle and therefore don't always suply our strikers and we can't protect our defence and make them look word than they are.

Just dint get jt.

We are now more weaker and inexperienced than last year in the middle and then we finished 8th.

Go and get Carvalho and all our problems will disspaesr. Well not all but watch how much we improve, seriously.


03 Aug 2016 00:16:25
Im not sure I would agree that our midfield is weaker. Can is a year older (and hopefully wiser) . Hendo should be over his injury and coming into his prime. Grugic and GW have been brought in to provide depth and challenge them. And let's not forget Stewart and Brannagan have a few games under their belts. So to me, I would say midfield is looking stronger than last year.
For me left back is our biggest weakness (and i'm not convinced by Randall yet) .
However Klopp has strengthened us tremendously at CB and GK and is shedding some of the unwanted players. So this transfer season is looking good so far. Now if Bayern could only be convinced to let us have Alaba for a song.


02 Aug 2016 12:07:11
I felt like the guys looked jaded. busy busy running in training and then coming to the games and they look toast.
I think people should really back away from casting aspersions on the players.

no pain no gain right? well it's not right, because it's missing the bit about having a rest to let the gains happen. this will come and I can really see the team step up a level as the season progresses.

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02 Aug 2016 12:40:55
Feel like we could do with another month or two of pre season. It all feels a bit chaotic with injuries and new signings still need time to integrate. Not what you want when Arsenal is 10 days away. But no alternative probably with so many new signings and the Euros.


02 Aug 2016 13:16:46
I think Liverpool's preseason has been brutal. New training regime, too many preseason games, incredibly high humidity across the US (I live in the States and stepping outside to walk the dog drains your energy very quickly! ) . Remember, Liverpool played two games in the space of 48 hours. I watched the game last night with the assumption that Liverpool would struggle. Also, due to injuries and a raft of changes in the second half, Liverpool only had one recognised defender at the back in the second half (Moreno! ) . It was fairly obvious from kick off that Roma where far fresher. YNWA.


02 Aug 2016 14:17:31
Spot on, Wise. Roma are already a better team than we are at the off. Added to this is the fact that their season starts later and haven`t played a game in two weeks. We have played three in that span hence, the reason we struggled. I didn`t see the game but it seems Roma`s fresh legs over powered our labored legs but that is the reason for these games. Building fitness and momentum. The result doesn`t matter as you don`t get a thing for winning. Now the injuries are a concern and need to be monitored.


02 Aug 2016 14:39:20
i remember watching a documentary on Barcelona and Madrid and their training sessions. Plenty of running to build their stamina as apposed to turning up at 9am to the trimming ground and leaving at lunch time.

If we are going to play Klopps way for more than 45mins, the team needs do be super fit and the only way to achieve this is through intense training.


02 Aug 2016 21:22:59
Plus we had played 48 hours previously and a 3 hour flight whereas Roma had 1 weeks break since their last game!


02 Aug 2016 11:00:49
Eds, you said I think that the club are looking at the LB Taylor from Leeds. It's being reported Taylor has handed in a transfer request, could/ will push Liverpool toward a bid?

Or has nothing changed?

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{Ed001's Note - I have no idea and can't answer questions like that really. It would be pure supposition.}

02 Aug 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Liverpool match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
Liverpool Live Chat page

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02 Aug 2016 10:07:23
First pre-season game I've watched live last night.
Even though it bares no difference to the premier league, I'm not excited by the players on display.
I'm going to say I'm looking forward to see Coutinho, Ojo Karius and Grujic, but there's nobody going to smash us into that top 4. Anyone else think we might need more talent in the squad? Very laboured.

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02 Aug 2016 11:00:49
I was there too DBol. Thought the game was okay in patches, just an overall lack of coordination. Did you see the Q&A with Luis Garcia and Robbie Fowler at the Tavern?


02 Aug 2016 11:04:44
wow you were impressed with Karius play? Interesting.


02 Aug 2016 11:16:28
Not sure how you can suggest we need more players when you have just watched one preseason game with most the new guys missing.


02 Aug 2016 11:22:22
Iconic fail there mate. I'm looking 'forward' to seeing him next season. You should've pointed out Grujic aswel but you didn't realise. Interesting.


02 Aug 2016 11:26:37
@Dboi you don't think Sturridge is a striker good enough for top 4? Interesting. Nor Firmino?


02 Aug 2016 11:37:21
I think the point about quality is definitely a good one. But it will just take to get the right players in and weed out those who won't contribute.


02 Aug 2016 11:47:28
You should have continued to not watch the friendlies Dbol.
Absolutely no point at all, I think the only matches I have watched in years are the charity shields.
Mane is a player that should get you excited, as long as he gets decent cover at left back anyway so he gets free rein to bomb up and down the wing.


02 Aug 2016 12:24:58
Some people are never happy and always want more! We've had a good window and except for a left back we've covered every angle. Maybe too much in the midfield area. Who could we have bought to improve us again then DBOL and push us into the top 4 as we are obviously going to fail miserably in your eyes? Is there any point in you watching another game as you obviously think we are going to struggle this coming season?! Judge the team in January after a tough Xmas period not after a handful of friendlies with no settled side and key players not featuring.


02 Aug 2016 13:59:04
We're not a million miles away. I actually think our biggest advantage this season is having no Europe.
All I'm saying is we'll probably fall just short of 4th, not really added anyone who makes you think he'll make a big difference.


02 Aug 2016 14:25:07
DBol, you always seem to have something negative to say about the team. I don`t mind the banter and your opinions but you say you aren`t happy with the players we got? In your infinite wisdom, who could we have gotten? Please, tell us because all I see in your post is negativity. You watched the Roma game as your first preseason game yet you missed the 5 games before that and you are judging the players of worthless friendlies? Who does that? You do know you get nothing for playing well or winning in these games as they are used as training excercises and nothing more, at the outset, right? At least allow them to play some league games first (you know, the ones that really matter) before judging them. Sheesh!


02 Aug 2016 18:49:30
I think I'm just honest cincyred. I Said at the start of last season this Liverpool squad was one of the worst, come the end of the season we finished 8th joint worst place we've ever finished in the Prem.
I'm completely honest and I go the majority of the games so I can promise I know my Team.
You were all saying the squad is amazing and there won't be many changes and once again you were all wrong and Klopp is spending over £100 million changing the team completely. I probably was expecting a hand full of German players this window and turning into a proper team if I'm being honest. Maybe that's where the lack of excitement comes from. Seems like we've spent most the money on Low Prem players and Championship players. Karius and Grujic look good though mate.


02 Aug 2016 10:04:21
I hate judging preseason but I have a couple of concerns. Why is Migs still here? Those attempting to justify him just yesterday saying he's still good enough, still think that? Another mistake. Mane showing why he took nearly half a season to score for Saints, lots of running and pace but largely ineffective for me. I wouldn't usually judge so early but a £35m price tag allows that in my opinion, especially when it was spent attempting to add a goal threat from wide. I was one questioning this buy and I've seen nothing that makes me think I was wrong. In fact he's been competely out shone by one of our own youngsters. One thing I don't get from last night is why Wijnaldum was played deep? Why buy an attacking mid then shoehorn him in by playing him completely out of position. Injuries still happening are a worry too!

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02 Aug 2016 10:59:51
Wijnaldum was never bought to replace Coutinho, Firmino and Mane. He played the deeper role at PSV and I believe that is the reason he is at the club.
I hope I am wrong on this one.


02 Aug 2016 11:25:09
Natural, migs- fair enough he isn't good enough but judging mane without him having played a competitive game for us is bloody ludicrous no matter how much we paid .


02 Aug 2016 11:38:21
Mane the player we need . He what's to be his man instead of passing it sideways or backwards . 1st half last night we can 2 or 3 so could they . 2rd half nobody was good.


02 Aug 2016 11:39:04
the point about mane, coutinho, firmino and even guys like milner and hendo etc is that we shouldn't be relying on them to provide the bulk of goals. Milner had a great season. had we had a fit a firing striker banging in 20+ goals a season then milner's contribution becomes gold. I agree we want to see more output from Mane and others, but it'll be a team contribution in the end.


02 Aug 2016 12:30:35
Mane will be a good player and provide a threat like what we had with sterling on the wing but more likely with a better end ball and some more goals and IMO will be our best player this season. Friendlys are pointless to judge people off. Players are still getting fitness and The level of competition isn't what it would be in the prem because players want to avoid injury.


02 Aug 2016 14:23:30
Sorry but Mane has looked reluctant to shoot and for someone brought in to add a goal threat from wide it's not good enough. I will await proper judgement until the end of the season, as I said I don't like judging in preseason and only his price tag makes me do it. If Wijnaldum was brought in to play from deep then heaven help us. Grujic was a lot cheaper and far better in that role. Wijnaldum is far better further forward where his strengths can be utilised. Again proper judgement will wait, this is simply what I've noticed.


02 Aug 2016 14:34:32
Poolie, stop freaking out over a worthless friendly that means nothing and yes, you are judging them too early. Would you rather Mane turn it on in preseason or at Arsenal. He is the exact player we need as we had no other players who could do the things he can. I was skeptical at his arrival based on his price and his attitude, not on his natural talent as he is talented and then some. As for Mingo, you do know Karius will be out injured for two months with a broken hand and Mingo has to take his place or would you rather Manninger step in for him? Slating players over a preseason loss is ridiculous and you are not helping the cause with baseless criticisms. Chill out and wait for the season to be in full flight and then make your judgement then.


02 Aug 2016 15:25:18
Cindy are - 1. If you actually read my posts you would see I wasnt "freaking out" and actually said that I would reserve my proper judgement for the end of the season. 2. Whether Migs is going to be our keeper at the start of the season or not, whether it's preseason or not I think Migs has made and continues to make enough mistakes to justify any criticism. Did Manninger make a mistake in his half?


02 Aug 2016 19:04:05
Who`s Cindy?


02 Aug 2016 21:13:39
Playing Wijnaldum as a centre midfielder is committing football suicide. He isn't a centre midfielder and if we attempt that against any half decent team we will get battered. Reference the defeats to Watford, West Ham, Man United, Sevilla, Swansea, Palace etc last season.


02 Aug 2016 08:38:19
Ojo always seems to be involved in either scoring the goals or assisting, end of last season, U19's Euros (I think he was involved in all but one or two of the goals) and again in the last few matches.

I hope we don't send him on loan and give him time to develop under Klopp.

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02 Aug 2016 09:13:28
i have a feeling we may see more of Ojo this season, don't think Klopps going to send him out on loan.


02 Aug 2016 12:32:54
Looks a bright talent. Hopfuly Klopp will keep him in the squad and develop him into a top drawer player.


02 Aug 2016 01:26:20
Hi ed002
Not entirely liverpool related but he was mentioned further down the page, and I was wondering, what makes Mino Raiola such an attractive agent. What makes him so good?

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{Ed002's Note - He does a good job for jis clients.}

02 Aug 2016 10:51:38
Considering he brokered the Balotelli deal to Liverpool, do you really have to ask that question, Josh?


02 Aug 2016 14:35:46
You don`t become a super agent if you cannot do a good job for your clients. It`s that simple.


02 Aug 2016 07:57:06
This team will take some time to gel i don't think 4-3-3 really suits us. yes we have the personnel for it . but it should be two strikers . we need two strikers esp if they are studger and origi quality. However with the number of AM's and CM's we have it won't happen. Still LFC has always worked wonders with 2 strikers i don't know why play only one of studger or origi or ings. they are our best sources of goals surely makes sense to play two of them. ( don't really care if a few am's and cm's hev to sit out) . atleast try that out in the pre-season to see how goes.

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02 Aug 2016 08:05:13
I don't think Klopp would drop an attacker for a striker. Think our Midfileders would need to chip in with regular goals. We hardly played two up top last season.


02 Aug 2016 08:08:41
2 strikers may happen in some games, with 2 in behind like coutinho and mane, we won't have one lineup and that's it.


02 Aug 2016 09:48:45
But the way we play I don't think midfielders have a chance to score unless it's a cracker from distance. With one striker up front leading the line he is always going to be central meaning midfielder would have leads space to run into and would have to pass to him. However with two strikers they both will move in different directions dragging the defenders along with them thereby more space for midfielder to run into. So our current system encourages mids to pass to the wide men which results in more touches and killing the move. With the luxury of strikers we have benteke included we should be playing with two upfront as I said even if that means dropping a cm or am. I think studger and original backed by couts and firmino on right and left. Then we could bring impact subs like mane and ojo if we are chasing a game and need speed. Hendo and can in middle with grujic and wijnaldum as backup. Sounds about right to me. I mean leaving a good striker on bench will just dry up his goals. I don't get this competition for places in strikers. If you have good strikers you play them together so they make a lethal partnership and put teams to sword. Studger and origi definitely can form a great partnership. Right now our defence is so-so, we can't be overcooking our attack. It has to be simple in your face in your goal. We complex our attack way to much for my liking. Too many passes too many touches. Teams just sit back and send us off.


02 Aug 2016 10:28:04
Think you are overlooking to the facts Akshit. A £34 mill and £25 mill impact sub isn't the idea Klopp bought these players in the first place. The whole point in buying Attacking Mids this summer was to create and score from the middle.


02 Aug 2016 11:41:04
I agree, don't think we are a 4-3-3 team. in variable we end up isolated in attack or our midfield ends up being more of a 1-1-1 and leaves our defence exposed.


02 Aug 2016 07:28:18
Another mistake by migs. . seriously worried now. he cannot be relied on I'm afraid. Karius injury could hamper a decent start.

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02 Aug 2016 07:47:02
Mignolet was awful. Same mistakes over and over again. Looking at the way we are we've not addressed the serious issues like left back and the gaping hole in midfield as well as not moving Mignolet on. Can see us only making midtable, because we will always either be too weak in centre midfield or teams will exploit out naive defending.


02 Aug 2016 11:06:39
It's a preseason game guys. Take a chill pill. Wisdom certainly didn't help. As a CB the first reaction on your mind should be to get the ball out of the box.


02 Aug 2016 21:13:19
I hate to have a go at players but with Migs and Moreno it's the same things over and over again. Migs just won't put his body on the line and Moreno just runs around the pitch with very little idea of where he is. The way things stand I'd start Manninger and Milner against Arsenal.

On a side note the second half was a non event, we had Wisdom and Stewart as the 2 centre backs which will never happen again. First half Can looked a little off the pace but it's his first game back. With a full side out we will certainly win more than we lose.


02 Aug 2016 07:01:56
Morning eds

Appreciate there on tour but do you have any idea on the injuries to our centre backs Matip, Sakho and Gomez. Seems just about our luck we have 3 out of 5 injured. I hope they are back.

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{Ed001's Note - Matip is due back soon, hopefully for the start of the season. Last I heard the other two would miss the opening game.}

02 Aug 2016 06:20:00
Wasn't Origi fit against Roma. Couldn't see his name on the squad sheet?

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02 Aug 2016 06:33:32
Slight groin injury, I think they said.


02 Aug 2016 06:38:57
Ok thanks mate.


02 Aug 2016 07:39:09
sore bollocks he will be ok by the time he lands.


02 Aug 2016 05:19:17
Don't worry about the result.

This was our seventh pre-season fixture of the summer, and 2nd in less than 48 hours. The gap between the win against AC Milan and this defeat also included a 4 hour flight while Roma haven't played for almost 2 weeks I think.

That alone should show justify the result.

Only big question mark remains over Migs in goal after that Salah goal (who can fill the role until Karius returns?! ) . Left back remains a worry too.

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02 Aug 2016 05:50:08
Shouldnt our players be a little more match-fit and cohesive than Roma then? Not sure if that's a legitimate reason for losing the match, Puzzled.
Either way, as long as their fitness and understanding improved then who cares about the final score.
Got a couple of over-hyped training sessions vs Barcelona and Mainz and then we can start putting teams to the sword.


02 Aug 2016 05:56:53
The whole idea of Pre-season is to gel together and improve the match sharpness. We don't look like a team and its the same old story. Klopp trying to integrate new players which will take time. Transition.


02 Aug 2016 06:35:18
Maybe it's because I'm American, but is a 3.5 hour plane flight (on a cushy charter, no less) really a big deal? I do it all the time.


02 Aug 2016 08:30:38
Not defending Mingolet then annie? You were saying you are happy to have him in goal the other day and that he's our number one correct me if I'm wrong!


02 Aug 2016 09:38:57
@RDL and @Annie, 2 games in 48 hours is a lot so yeah it's a big factor. If of that short recovery time you're at airports and having to fly then you are not resting so well.


02 Aug 2016 09:39:22
Not seen the goal, but probably significant that Manninger started and Mignolet came on 2nd half. He was probably put under pressure by that and didn't step up? Wouldn't be surprised if Manninger starts at Arsenal.


02 Aug 2016 10:25:58
This post had nothing to do with Mingolet, Waro. i'm not sure why your calling me out on it while we are discussing form and fitness of the teams. Obsessive much?


02 Aug 2016 11:48:27
Seriously are there any people left on this site who read posts FULLY? Annie the OP states " only big question mark remains migs in goal after salah goal "!

My point is/ was, you made no comment on Mingolet yet again f###ING up only days after calling people out on there criticism of him and stating his quality iyo and then not seeing the irony of you subsequently criticising karius in the same post, have a word with yourself.


02 Aug 2016 12:32:13
Serious Waro, this is getting beyond petty but if you would like me to justify my post from two days ago then here we go (although if the Eds delete it for repetition i won't be surprised) .
The original post was regarding the team but, yes, Mingo was personally mentioned so i guess that gives you a segway to detract from the broader issue and make it all about him. I made no comment about him as i didn't think it relevant to the OPs post.
I never called anyone out, i just said i didn't know why he got so much abuse. I said Migs is a good keeper deficiencies (not quality) and that Karius has been mediocre. I see no irony there.
Most of the posters want rid of Migs, i'm happy for him to remain and fight for his place with Karius. Can i suggest that you just accept that people have differences of opinion and don't always follow with the popular viewpoint like sheep?


02 Aug 2016 17:52:08
Not sheep annie that's a little rich considering his numerous poor displays on a number occasions. Perfectly capable of forming an opinion based on how he has performed.

I will be the first to chime up if he has had a good game or improves, just can't see it after 3 yrs tbh. As for the display, tired legs and minds, result matters little.

I expect consistency to come though i'm not as optimistic as most on the coming season.


02 Aug 2016 03:36:07
Ball comes in Migs flaps at it bounces off him back to another player Migs flaps again

Game over

Almost looked like that goal Rooney scored in Anfield last season

Terrible keeper

Side note.
Manninger wasnt bad in the 1st half.

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02 Aug 2016 04:21:19
The second time he didn't so much flap at it as fall over backward. Think the club really needs to get his balance checked, he's constantly falling over.


02 Aug 2016 04:28:23
I am not Migs greatest fan but he did very well to save the first header, wisdom should have cleared the rebound.


02 Aug 2016 06:42:45
The first wasn't so much a save as it just happened to hit him. Not faulting him for that but it makes little sense to call it a save either, at least for me.


02 Aug 2016 06:58:07
Mignolet showed why he should be on the bench and Wisdom showed why he's not good enough for us long term as he had a lapse of concentration at s crucial moment, something that he's been guilty of too much.


02 Aug 2016 07:24:51
The way he dealt with the rebound was comical.
Wait for it to almost bounce and try and tackle the forward running in?
He should have gone for the ball with his HANDS whilst it was in the air and taken ball, defender and striker in one.

My description of his effort - powder puff.


02 Aug 2016 09:44:15
Midfield was as bad as Migs, still a walk over, absolutely no balance between attack and defence. When attacking great, when defending non-existent.


02 Aug 2016 03:33:04
Just watched the game vs Roma

Same as always as pre-frienlies go
BUT.

MIGS
😣😣😣
Only real time he was called into the game after coming on and a cross comes in Roma player gets a free header MIGS FLAPS at.

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02 Aug 2016 03:14:09
When I die I want Simon Mignolet to lower me into my grave, so he can let me down one last time.

Loris Kaius, please, get well soon. Like really, really soon. Like John Cena super healing soon. Please.

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02 Aug 2016 06:34:50
He will flap and drop you rather than lower you down!


02 Aug 2016 10:48:37
Quality banter from LFC-S Mango.


02 Aug 2016 23:58:45
Tbf once he has lowered u in the ground he will turn around and fall in after you he's so unstable on his feet.


02 Aug 2016 03:01:57
i am not even going to mention the defending for Romans second.

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02 Aug 2016 04:33:43
first romantic now romans?

are romans romantic ChiefScout? haha just kidding mate, auto-correct huh? =P.


01 Aug 2016 23:07:28
Just got in from the U21's game. 1-3 victory against the MK Dons first team.

First off, want to say we'll done to the lads who came over and signed autographs for all the kids at full time. There only about 100 Liverpool fans but it was a good touch.

Onto the game, it was a great match for the first hour. We led 2-0. At the hour mark though the game became a bit broken and hard to know who was who as each team made about 10 subs!

So I'll just give my take on the first hour.

Kelleher was absolutely brilliant in goal. Swept up in behind the defence, made a couple of stunning saves and his distribution was brilliant. Top young lad, who was taking photos with a fan before the game even kicked off.

Juanma (the lad on trial) looks good going forward but gets the wrong side defensively. Will need a season or two to develop at least.

Brewitt and Maguire on the other hand were impervious in the centre. I don't recall either misplacing a pass or making an error. They were absolutely brilliant.

Really wasn't impressed by Lewis at right back though. His attacking play was weak, his passing sloppy, and defensively he relies to much on his strength and speed. Not a bad player, but not anything special.

In midfield Phillips and Virtue were really classy. Dominated the game, worked very hard and their range of passing was excellent. Really didn't expect it from Virtue. Never stood out to me before.

Wilson was a good outlet. He always went looking fir the ball and a lot of the play went through him. Took his goal really well and set pieces (excluding one shoddy corner) were threatening.

Herbie Kane had a quiet but effective game in the hole. He drops into clever little pockets of space and just crops up with clever touches and passes. Although it came after the substitutions he did also play a stunning pass in behind to set up Masterson (who finished brilliantly might I add) . The weight on Kane's pass was just sublime though.

Woodburn was hands down the best player on the pitch. Created the first two goals, could've got a couple himself and just tore MK to pieces. His close control, direct attacking play, and excellent burst of pace made him unplayable today. First goal he created with a class swivel, a driving run, and then a cracking cut back to Wilson. Second assist was a nice driven pass in to Gomes. What a player we have in young Ben.

On to Gomes, the lad was very hard working. He is a willing runner, attacks every ball, and shows some nice touches. His shooting is very poor though. He did get a goal but it was a really weird finish. Unfortunately the Liverpool fans were all seated at the opposite end of the ground but from where I was sat it looked like a toe poke from about 8 yards that he just hit as hard as he could. He also scuffed a few other shots including one right in front of me and two yards from the back post! In fairness though, I think he cramped up as he hit it as he received medical treatment straight away afterwards.

All in all though, the young reds took apart a senior side. After the subs we did concede a sloppy goal but we also scored a very good team goal so it wasn't like we were completely out of the game then.

I did promise earlier I'd give a special mention on left backs. Well, Juanma as I said was not really that great going backwards, and his game was cut short by an injury following a disgustingly high tackle from a Dons player around the hour mark. His replacement was Hart. He came on and did a job to be fair. He's a powerful young player. Looks deceptively small somehow but when he is in a 50/ 50 you suddenly realise he is a big lad. Didn't really do much offensively or defensively in his half hour, but I did note that at one point we lost possession after he had made a forward run, and he turned and powered his way back into possession, not only catching the Dons winger, but easing him off the ball. That was his personal highlight for me.

Overall though, I would say Maguire is the most likely to get a first team chance at left back. He looked extremely comfortable when he was pulled out wide, or forced to defend on the cover for Juanma. So he might well be an option if we still don't sign a left back come September.

Was a really great game of football though, I just wish me and the Mrs had moved back into the dry seats a little sooner. Pregnant partners who are soaked and hungry, are not fun to drive home with!

Sorry for the length lads.

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02 Aug 2016 00:46:00
Cracking report, thanks!


02 Aug 2016 00:59:14
Sorry for the length! Wow.


02 Aug 2016 02:03:08
I was at the game and have raced back to Liverpool to watch the 'first team'. I've got to say Woodburn is so unfazed and has so much confidence, but has that much talent I am not surprised. 20 minuted gone against Romantic and we look the better team but Romantic have the 2 best chances. Good save from Manningham early on. mane playing well and seeing a lot of the ball.


02 Aug 2016 02:11:44
dzeko has just scored. It was such an easy got to avoid. Salah received the ball in his own half, turned too easily without any kind of challenge from Miller. Played a long ball to Dzeko who chested it down and finished from the edge of the box with no kind of challenge from Klaxon.


02 Aug 2016 07:00:22
Billy, that's what I say to me bird.


02 Aug 2016 08:28:39
MK, you've got the job. Great report.


 
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