Liverpool Banter Archive August 02 2012

 

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02 Aug 2012 23:33:45
Talksport (i know) reporting that ibrahim affely could go onn LOAN to liverpool or spurs(what a surprise)so this means the loan star is IBRAHIM AFFELY,

red bird


He's off to Inter


 

 

02 Aug 2012 23:31:33
L.Diarra is nailed on to join from Real Madrid I hear it's in the region of 10mil euros (around 8million I think).


If tha deal where to be true i dont know how i feel bout it. Didnt play much for chelasea then played less for arsenal, portsmouth had good run of games for them then madrid he played more games for them then he did chelsea, arsenal and portsmouth combined. Never seen enough of him to be honest know if he good enough can any eds or fellow reds enlighten me kop idol


 

 

02 Aug 2012 23:31:12
rondon available for just 10 million
would be a useful signing


Hey unknown first u liverf**l fans want gaston ramirez now rondon, think you should go for ask for in your teams class like heard matt jarvis nd steven fletcher are still available.....


Hotspud009


You must be be rock bottom coming for news on our beloved site, just goes to show how desperate people are to enhance the now wanna be bigger clubs..


Hotspud, maybe learn how to string a coherent sentence together before you go mouthing off on other teams pages.
CQ


Talking of class I know it was only a friendly but our reserves held your 1st team to a draw last week & I wish we did go for jarvis & fletcher cos then we know your lot would end up buying them ....Steve. YNWA


 

 

02 Aug 2012 23:27:57
Brad Friedal will come in to provide cover for Pepe Reina this season.

Clint Dempsey will sign early next week.

Latest news from a source of mine in Boston.

TalklfcFanCO


 

 

02 aug 2012 23:23:03
expect the unexpected...... mancienne,diarra,sinclair,c.cole to sign! ex chelsea boys on there way!


No, you got it wrong. Chelsea is where we send OUR ex-players once their legs are gone. Gives them a final payday without affecting our team

cozinoz


 

 

02 Aug 2012 23:21:32
My friend is a life-long Wrexham fan... he's just texted me saying that Wrexham fans, in the know, are talking about Neil Taylor (Swansea) coming to Liverpool as they'll receive some add-on payments as he played for Wrexham before Swansea. (this is my first official proper Liverpool rumour!)


He's from N wales so a move home. When he was at Man city was he there with the new backroom team?
Theres quite a bit on the net recently linking him with a few clubs.


Poor decision if we go for him as well as allen


 

 

02 Aug 2012 23:02:15
Henderson will be a fantastic player this season :) in my view he's a top player. Let's hope this is our season I'm excited got to say! :D


The 2 disagrees are from either non-liverpool fans, or false fans.
derryred


Tonights performance suggest otherwise. Shelvey is currently on a different level to Henderson and spearing. But I hope we just get rid of spearing tbh


He has the potential. But not the mental strength. He needs both. Make or break season for him at a top club. He was dire again last night. Doesn't have the belief to make any sort of attacking intent and doesn't look for a pass. Ability is wasted unless you put yourself out of your comfort zone and TRY something. Boy needs to stop going for the easy option. At least Spearing tries. He's awful but he tries. Doesn't shy away.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 23:21:26
Carlton Cole as Part Exchange for Andy Carroll hearing 15million is the fee!


 

 

02 Aug 2012 23:14:00
ok, after some intense research into the loan player
and the pelican reference,i have deduced that
"a pencil" and "pace nil" are both anagrams of pelican.
in conclusion i think the loan player is skinny and slow.
i thought peter crouch was happy at stoke but..

red jay


Don't ever go on countdown, Red J mate.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Brainy male


 

 

02 aug 2012 23:04:31
should we sell suarez???he is worth somewere inbetween 25-38m
juventus,psg and some other teams are interested
do you think ac.milan will make an offer now that ibrahimovic has gone??


Did u watch yesterdays game???.. he was the missising link yesterday...we were humiliated yesterday..and still wanna get rid of suarez???


 

 

02 Aug 2012 23:04:01
Macca told us we would be getting a star player on loan. I know I said I thought it would be Sahin, but what if it is Tello? The Three Wise Men had to follow a star to find Jesus, who of course, was the reason why Christianity started (Tello's first name is Cristian), and what do you look at stars with... A Tello-scope. If he does not get first team opportunities at Barca this season he is sure to complain, and moan, rhymes with loan. He also has a sleeve tattoo, and Agger is a qualified tattoo artist, so half price ink for him.

I trust this has cleared everything up, and puts all other rumours to bed.

Rafa's Purple Goatie


HAHA that is brilliant. I love your comments. You should start a blog.

Daveevad


That is an excellent tedious link!


Can i vote this post of the day ?
derryred


Sounds like Ted Rogers and 321 has returned from the grave with a cryptic answer like that! A dusty-bin is on its way too you fellow red!
Boysie-red


A pelican eats lots of fish so i think this is a very fishy clue


 

 

02 Aug 2012 23:00:11
Any interest in Mancienne eds? Think he would provide great cover defensively all round. I really rate the lad! {Ed002's Note - None that I am aware of.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:57:45
GastónRamírez agent PabloBentancur is in London dealing with transfer 2 Liverpool Now could be definitive as Olimpics ended for Uruguay
{Ed002's Note - Betancourt is not in London.}


So Betancourt is in Liverpool? {Ed002's Note - No.}


Does Betancourt have a pet pelican?

BigBadBen


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:54:33
1 thing that BR mentioned abour Borini, was that he runs alot, and hell yes he runs alot. he is always moving, always an option, through ball, long ball, short pass. hes always there. perfect guy for BR's plans IMO. now i see why. ive never seen him play before this.

Kaizer


We shall see about that.


Not seen game or Borini play but interesting comment. After last years buys it is good to hear a bit of positivity. steve068


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:50:06
We won didn't we? Enough moaning.
AnfieldUSA


A win is a win theres no pleasing som so called fans


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:49:31
Rondon linked with Spurs due to Malaga being cash strapped. Is there any chance Liverpool will sign anyone other than Allen, Dempsey, Amorebieta, or Rodriguez before the window shuts? Any update on the mystery loan signing? Dan


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:49:20
Hey eds and reds. Its benny baller here.

I started a football club up, around the time of the evra/suarez saga. Its called Diverse FC. Our badge is the handshake of a black and white hand. Im trying to apply BR's tactics and play nice football, but also with good banter.

I was wondering if we could be the official-un official amateur team of the liverpool-rumours site. It would not mean much, id just post this sites link in our info and the main football rumour site. In favour of the support from eds and good lads on here, it would mean alot to the challenge ive taken on. I aim for kids teams in the commuinity in the next 5 years.

If its cool to post our link eds? if not just remove it....im just trying to drum up some support.

www.facebook.com/diversefootballclub

Many many thanks

Benny baller.


Ah you posted it, you legends. If anyone wants to add and show support it would mean so much.

We are guna be doing funny goal celebrations like that lads icelandic team and uploading it. Just guna be a real good laugh.

Cheers eds
Benny baller {Ed001's Note - good luck with it mate, and keep us informed how you get on.}


Good luck benny. Hope you and the young lads have a lot of success and have a good time doing it.

Eric the red


Great stuff Benny Baller mate. If you're looking a half decent No.7, you know were to find me.

Good luck mate.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


The unofficial team of Liverpool Rumours? With half the blerts who post on here, they'll be clamouring for you to get sacked if you don't sign Cavani or don't beat your next opponents 10 - 0.

Good luck mate.


Its nice to see people taking time to give young kids a start and have fun .Best of Luck Benny

REDFORLIFE


Well done and gud look benny,

Scouseme


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:48:03
Hi Ed great site love reading it every day just want to know do u think that Dempsey deal is off its been dragged on so long now tho stopped taking bets on it a long wile back what u think thanks.
{Ed002's Note - No I don't think it is off.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:46:07
Evening Eds, could you tell me if the Miralem Sulejmani rumours are true, and if LFC do have an interest in him, or is it once again media BS, tbh, have not seen a great deal of him, but what i have seen he did look a very handy player, will he stay put or could he be a genuine target?
thankyou..

STEVE

RED4LIFE {Ed002's Note - I don't know of any interest.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:40:08
One things for sure, tonight's game is about to spice up the LFC transfer window. Some had a chance to put in a performance and didn't so bye bye. Clearly showed where we need to be strengthened and this game was a perfect opportunity for that. By the way, been told the loan idea was made up, not happening. LlFC only looking to buy for the future not look to replace in 6 months. MKR4185S


I agree.. would seem to me that tonight was about getting thru the game but also a window sale..
Could be the reason the likes of Suso, Carroll, Agger and Pachecho didnt play!.. they are not for sale?.. Obv we had to play some players that needed match fitness too.. Gerrard, Johnson, Skrtle, Hendo and Downing.. Carra got his 700th out the way..
ItsNotRocketScience


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:36:30
Time for some honesty - we lack any confidence at present - tonight was awful total lack of skill and pro activity.we will play lots of neat football this season but no end product 7th or 8th again .


Time for some honesty - that was the first competitive game of the season, we won and you are a plonker

cozinoz


Competitive game?....look all other top 6 pre season games...they are dominating with their reserve..and we are giving excuses..player fitness, sharpnes...my foot...we were outplayed totally.......


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:31:48
Ok, we played bad and won, it makes a change from playing the opposition of the park and losing,the team was mainly made up off fringe players and players who have just returned to training after the euros,we won and players got some game time and the fitness will be getting better, some fans are so negative, you would think we had just lost 5-0. Jonny71


Its good to play bad and win. How much success have the Mancs had by playing bad!


Agreed Jonny71, however one aspect that I don't think will improve with any amount of improved fitness is our inability to create chances from midfield which is key.

Rodgers has to decide whether Stevie G is going to play behind the striker on a permanent basis or whether he will sit deeper. Unfortunately, Spearing simply isn't up to the level we require, he tries his backside off but effort can't make up for lack of ability. Henderson is also a worry, again the boy tries but he seems to run around like a headless chicken, devoid of ideas and seemingly unsure of what and where he is meant to play, sometimes I think he tries too hard to fit in and give the impression that he is a team player which leads to him totally forgetting his own game, I simply can't work out what level of player he is.

I don't think it was too surprising that we seemed to improve slightly when Lucas came on, (even at 25% fitness level), his distribution was better then Spearings, and he seemed more at ease and capable in the defensive role.

Downing did score granted, but I am still not totally convinced that his workrate and desire is at the level that is, and will be, required to make Rodgers proposed style work, he simply disappears far too often.

Sterling won't be a permanent figure in the first team but when the opportunities do arise I think in a performing team he certainly won't let anybody down.

As for proported incomings I really have my doubts about Joe Allen, I think he is a decent player but I think in the cut and thrust he will be too "lightweight", I can't really suggest any names, but I'd like to see someone brought in with more strength and mobility.

Dempsey is a "steady eddie" and seems to work hard for the team, but again I can't help but think he is due an "off" season, and unfortunately I reckon it will coincide with him joining us.

I would love a top three or four finish but realistically (unless there is a flurry of transfers in) I can see a bold fifth or sixth position.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:30:47
Agger had a dodgey stomach this week so not trained much so he was left out, he is happy at liverpool an not goin anywhere so everyone needs to stop bangin on abar it


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:28:30
Ok we know Carra really should not be in the first team anymore, Spearing as much as we'd love the lad to prove us wrong probably needs a move, and could still have a great living in the game.
Enrique is a concern for me, although there are loads on here that love him, he has pace and is strong but I dont think he is the cleverest footballer in the world. I know a lot will argue but put it this way, Arbeloa's place is under no threat from him.
We were missing Suarez, Bellamy, Agger and Carrol and they make a difference, worryingly though they could all be off.
On a positive note we won, and despite all our good performances last year there were to few occasions we could say that.
We just needto keep the best players add a couple of new faces and we will be ok.


Agreed, Arbeloa's place is definately not at risk from enrique


Arbeloa plays on the right so no it isnt


Arbeloas place isnt under threat from jose as arbeloa plays right back, just saying


I would definitely keep carra out of loyalty, he did annoy me but when he just hoofed the ball up the pitch, he is much more composed than that. it is still an early season game and it will take time for the players to perfect BR's tactics. i would've liked to see more movement in midfield and link-up play but that changed when lucas came on. downing scored a belter, sterling did himself no harm (keep in mind he is 17). borini was always making himself available and i am really warming to him, i thought the game was calling out for a certain jonjo shelvey but we got through it.
derryred


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:27:49
we just came back from a tour of america and had to fly straight back out to belarus to take on a team who are halfway through their season and far fitter and sharper than we are. most of our team had only taken part in 1 pre season match because they were all off at the euros, and we still won and kept a clean sheet. people have gone on for years how man u are champions because they can play badly and still win, what did we do? played badly and won.

so im sorry but i dont agree with all the negativity over 1 performance from a team which mostly hadn't even played 90 mins of pre-season and yet still won, would you have been happier if we had done like we did lots of last season and play them off the park have 30 shots at goal but still lose?

no doubt theres room for improvement but get a bit of perspective FFS


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:26:55
Oh for the love of dear Jesus and all the saints in heaven, so many posters don't have the common sense God gave goats. Nothing whatsoever surprising about tonights game for those of us who have watched August euro qualification games over the last decade. Grojon are into their season, at home and highly motivated for the biggest game of their careers thus far. No surprise that they flattered to deceive. They still lost. I've seen Liverpool play this way early doors in Europe for over a decade, its just the way it is. Oh my God, we're going to be in the bottom 3, oh mammy I want rid of Rogers, oh we're so gonna be relegated.....blah blah blahdy blah. Wise up and stop getting carried away and thinking that your anxious and ill advised thoughts should be shared with the rest of us who know at least a little bit about how football actually works. Stop sharing ans start shuting the hell up!


Did u watch the match cos we played gomel .


You sound like Father Ted!


You know you've made a great point when the comments are people knit-picking like the first comment.
derryred


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:24:49
this possible loan signing. is it safe to say eds that its most likely that this person will be a striker or someone playing upfront? i believe with carroll and bellers most likely leaving... this seems most likely?

rab


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:21:07
Dempsey signing weekend agger not goin nowhere heard from a ex pool player drinks in the blackbull in belle vale make up ur own mind don't shoot the messenger stewools


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:19:11
Good result tonight lads, not the best performance but what were people expecting. Good to see Sterling get a good run out , will be great experience for the lad, remember he is 17. Looking forward to the new season now.

Bilverstone
YNWA
JFT96


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:17:41
Brendan Rodgers post match interview:

He said: "How you play the game is based on the players you have. At this moment in time our squad isn't complete and we still have work to do.

"It won't happen overnight and it's going to take time. What I was really pleased with tonight, which is a vital ingredient for success, is desire and commitment. For a lot of the players it was their first 90 minutes so when you have that you have something to build from.

"We have a lot of improvement to make but I am excited in the future we will make those improvements."

Have some faith lfc fans Rodgers realises we're lacking in certain areas and i'm sure he'll address this before the start of the season.

oseans


Hoping he will adress our lack of quality in the finalthird of the pitch and then i would be feeling a lot happier aboutthings


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:09:42
Just like to say a big congratulations to Jamie Carragher on playing his 700th game for this club. I think most people will agree it is a fantastic achievement.

Sadly I think the days of one-club footballers is coming to an end but Carragher has shown great loyalty and commitment during his career.

I'm sure this post will get hijacked by people who will throw a load of abuse at him but hopefully most of us can appreciate everything he has given the club. Legend.

JRG


Who the hell disagrees with this
JC LFC legend -" we all dream....."

well done 700 games brilliant and truly a great player for our club, 100% commitment 100% heart 100%scouse 100% LFC Jamie Carragher one of the greats


Agreed. A Liverpool legend who is unfortunately recieving far too much abuse these days. Although some degree of it is warrented as his performances havent been great people musn't forget what a legend he's been and show him the respect he deserves.
CQ


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:08:18
If Glen johnson leaves, who would replace him. I think the replacement would be young. What do you think eds?


Glen Johnson leaving and (Luke) Young replacement? :-) We've got Flanagan and Kelly as quality backups. Redevon


Haha i was shocked when i thought he meant luke, he means young like martin kelly etc


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:07:22
Just wandering if the eds know how our last few managers have all picked spearing. Do they see something that us fans don't


Well, they do see training sessions, which we largely don't. Admittedly Jay is not the most technical footballer in the world, but I can imagine that he probably darn near kills himself in training and that's something to be respected.


He is a nice lad and they respect him for his work and the way he fought back after the bad injuries he had when he was younger but is he good enough for a team who wants to reach the top. red mick tag


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:04:43
Wait until after the Olympics for further signing.

Watch for Ramirez and Allen. I don't think Dempsey will be signed due to price.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:04:40
Bottom line - we beat a team 17 games into their season with most of our top players still missing.


Bottom line - we beat a Europa League team. End of.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:04:30
lmao that performance didnt surprise me in the slightest,top 4 your having a laugh.lfc are way behind spurs as for arsenal their so far in front they are outa sight,no money no stadium = no hope


Shouldnt u be on mufc rumours, no time for u people


I think the post is actually from a Spuds fan. He's ecstatic that his team recently won the.......um.....they won the..............what have they won recently?
Anyone remember the Ricky Villa final?

cozinoz


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:03:30
Good result tonight against a team 15 games into the season, really pleased. Borini will be a right handful, his movement is really tidy. Great to see Lucas back in competitive action and Jamie with his millionth appearance. Jay and Jordan shaky but won't be our starting midfield. Gutted for cole. All in all fairly positive. Sure loads of you will disagree but some of you are clueless anyways.
Tommy


 

 

02 Aug 2012 22:02:20
Wow, so many trolling today! Any sensible fan would know that with a new manager ,a new style of play but using a squad that struggled to 8th last season you are not able to change things overnight! If you think overwise then you are just plain silly! This is not football manager 12.
RedRich


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:59:53
liverpool are due to announce the signings of 4 players over the next two weeks.

CLINT DEMPSEY.....£7-9 MILLION
GASTON RAMIERES..£12-14 MILLION
SCOTT SINCLAIR....£5-7 MILLION
JOE ALLEN............£12-14 MILLION
JACK BUTLER........£5 MILLION (LOANED BACK)


Couple of things-

That's five people, not 4.

And who is Jack Butler? Guessing you mean Jack Butland?


Lol jack butler.. or jack sparrow


Its butland .
you clown
haha

majestic69


This post is brilliant.

x


Taken from wikipedia:

"Jack Butler (14 August 1894 “ 5 January 1961) was an English footballer He died in 1961, at the age of 66"

i know we didn't play well tonight but surely we can sign better than this


Is that not 5?


I'd rather give Real Madrid £18m + agger for Higuain + kaka on loan

Then just by Amorebieta for Agger replacement £8m and then buy fernandes for £7m to back up, vargas £4m and dempsey £7m = £44m

sell carroll 18m, adam 6m, aquilani 3m, kuyt .5m, spearing 3m = 30.5m

= 14.5m spent (£25m including borini)

reina
glen, martin, nando, jose
lucas
gerry, kaka
suarez, higuain, dempsey

kelly, coates, henderson, shelvey, fernandes, vargas, borini


I hate you Butler

Redpath


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:58:06
Ed have to say that was crap but i'm staying positive. We got the win after playing bad and had a good competitive game for those who played. Hopefully a few signings in by the return leg and a few more weeks for BR to get his system working and we will be ok. Won't we ED??

Frog.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:57:20
Thank god i avoided this site earlier, seeing all the negative comments, you would of thought we were hammered when im pretty sure it say's we [WON].So much for liverpool having the most knowledgeable and supportive fans, because there certainly aren't many on here. To many keyboard hiding trolls.

That game was basically a pre season game, don't forget we have now only played 4 times so far, that is nothing. The season is still 2 weeks away, so everybody chill and relax. I for one am pretty confident for the season, shame some of you on here don't feel the same way. YNWA Si


Take it you didn't see the match?


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:51:16
My son has just watched the match and said it is in the top 5 of all time poorest performances,and I was so looking forward to the new season with the tika taka football.From what I did saw against spurs NOTHING has changed at all,thinking after the first 6 games of the season we could actually be in the bottom 3

alan50


Bottom three after 6 games? makes me so sick lately reading all these negative posts? give BR a chance its still basically pre season for these guys against a gomel team at full fitness. we are suppose to be the best supporters in the world and its non believers like you which is failing our great club

A VERY annoyed fan


R u for real? Get a grip!


WHAT

You mean we arent playing like Barca after 3 pre seasons game....


RODGERS OUT.....


Ffs, you're an person


Bottom 3 ??... Do us a favour pal and start supporting some other team.


1 game just 1 game and the trolls start give the boys a chance ffs .......rice


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:48:04
sad to say but exactly what i thought was going to happen tonight happened and i'm not talking about the team by the way but i just knew unless we won 5 or 6 nil and borini got a hat-trick then all the nay sayers on here would crawl out of the woodwork and start slating rodgers, borini and anyone else they cared to have a pop at, i can imagine them gathering their torches and sharpening their pitchforks right now.

really is a shame because coming on here used to be enjoyable but now the team, the manager, the owners even the Eds seem to get nothing but abuse. im sure im not the only one who is coming on less and less these days either


I agree about the amount of negative comments/abuse here,,,,,,but lately we have sucked, i mean 8th place?, rumors about signing half the swansea team ?, got to stay positive but FFS there is not much concrete evidence of positive change and only time will tell,


Im the same mate. The thing is half of them know nothing about football apart from fifa and football manager.


People say there isnt any concret info about anything good happening we have not sighned any swansy players we have sighned borin thats it so whats so bad about are sighnings we have made one borini thats it so untill we actualy make sighning why are people judging something thats not reallity its bringing the club down .with no concret evidence whatsoeva ur ruining the fungshwey of are beautifull historick family i wont tell u to join another club ur family but when u send negative vibrations threw the family its felt all the way threw from the bottom to the top so use ur heads and thing positive positive vibes and positive people will lead to positive results players will be happy and play better and results will come some people dont know the importance of are great club an the importance of being a fan everyone counts no one walks alone . we all walk together one love one team one aim . glory


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:47:25
Sterling had no impact, Gerrard was useless; we should sell them too and sign Neymar and Pirlo for 50 mil each!

Jack D.


A quality post jack, not.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:47:15
Ok . just watched the game.

I saw positives and negatives, no need to go into them ( lots of you already done that )

Fact is we WON the game, if it was a prem game . . . .we took three points.

Players need time to adapt to style, formation, each other etc. .

BR will look and adapt to how he sees fit re: players, style, formation and movement.

He will have his ideas, and I ( we ) will wait to see how he goes from here.

Patience is a virtue and good things come to those who wait.

Keep the faith.

Mr Slonk The Red.

YNWA

( Time to bring on the nay sayers and doom mongerers )

Give me what you got caus i got my fellow REDS onside.


Look at the squad chelsea have assembled

With the exception of Gerrard not one of those who played tonight for LFC would make the squad never mind the chelsea team

Top 4 me Ar*e


Did you just say that they need to adapt to each other??

its the same team with only Borini difference and he looked very isolated


Good things come to those who wait? give me a break!

Good things come to those who go and get them!


Our players who would walk into the chelsea team

agger, johnson, lucas, gerrard and suarez


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:47:05
I think the fans criticising the team need to relax...The most important thing is to get a result which we got...I don't really mind us getting battered in every game but getting results...And it is only pre season and we are yet to make a few signings which would be for the first team....So let us stay optimistic and hope for the best from BR and the lads...

Red PG


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:46:13
I'm gonna keep this short and sweet....

Just support the f*cking team for goodness sake!

K.Bennett


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:46:09
Agger to City with Adebayor (loan) and A.Johnson coming the other way?!

JK


It's obvious BR has to sell before he can buy, he's having a job to shift Andy Carroll so he will sell Agger to buy the players he wants. Andy Carroll and Agger should stay at Liverpool not sacrificed to raise funds.We will end up with worse players than we get rid of to finance BR's experiment with Tikka Takka.

Bobbinred


The question marks suggests a shot in the dark

cozinoz


Adebayor talk about bad influence

look at what the guy is doing to city they got him in on MASSIVE wages (175k pw) made his lifestyle better by 300% and then he wants to screw them over some more...it's not right


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:36:08
I think one of our priorities should be a left-back to at least provide some competition for Enrique who has looked too comfortable for somebody playing as poor as he has been. I am sure Rogers knows this and hopefully tonight's performance will provide him with a better idea of who can do the job. Also players like Spearing do not inspire confidence. If BR wants to keep him should maybe loan him for a season but right now he should be nowhere near our first team, especially with jonjo on the bench.
Either way I think this will be a busy 3 weeks for our club.

Red-David-26


Okay forget about midfield depth or wingers, lets buy competition for enrique. you lot go on like he is complete carp when he isn't that bad. he made a few mistkes in big games yes but i don't see why he is getting targeted.
derryred


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:33:58
To any Liverpool players, staff and real fans.

Please do not take any consideration to the mindless comments about tonights performance on the page below. What you may read below will make you wonder how ignorant some people can be.

We all know that BR has just put together a new style and inheriated some players that don't fit in. We all know that Gomel are mid season and this is our first competitive fixture. We all know that FSG is moving the club in the right direction to be a sustainable and profitable organisation.

I believe that LFC will be setup for future success by the work that is happening now. If you can't get behind the club and people involved in it, then support someone else.

YNWA
Tommo the Red


Just pressed agree, well said Tommo.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:27:35
Pelican= Andy Polo! He is the Striker/ Winger we are getting on loan! Eds, can I have my prize?


He has to fly over just as the daleks must do to stairs ?
derryred


Do the eds know who the loan signing is supposed to be? {Ed049's Note - no}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:34:03
The moment Rodgers started praising Carragher's was the moment I realised that we are losing either Agger or Skrtel. What is going on at our beloved Liverpool, are we just a selling club now?

Clan T


He praised him because he had just played his 700th game for the club.

Lewis the Red


Or he was praising a loyal servant to the club, 700 games, didn't you hear?

Congrats to Jamie, Downing and the boys.

1st win for Brendan, 1st competitive game..

Lee YNWA


He's just played his 700th game. Of course he's going to be praised.

Kev.


Carragher is nailed on first team this season, he should be good for ten goals..... lol

Nev


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:29:51
the only good thing to come out of tonight ,thank the lord it wasnt on terrestial tv for everyone to see . im afraid were a one singer one song team , the singers suarez and the song is suarez . all the muppets who want to get rid of suarez should be forced to watch that.

alan waddle


Soo very true!.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:24:08
These games are far better than any pre season warm-up exhibition games. It gives us a proper work out, and will get us more match fit for the coming season. Oh and B.R is a genius getting a goal out of Downing lol..


Yip, cause nobody else could.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:43:58
Is Joe alllens game similar to Lucas? Or is he more attacking


More attacking.


I'd say he's somewhere between the two. He's not a pure CDM like Lucas nor a pure CAM like a Silva. At Swansea he basically played, well, as a CM. Can't think of a better to explain it. More like the role of Cleverly for Team GB? Not sure if that's quite right either... I'd recommend watching a few old Swansea games if you can from last season- they were great to watch.


Well he is more attacking sort of like a xavi - but in the olympics he has played a more deep lying role..


More attacking (with the ball at his feet) less long range passing (Lucas plays some wonderful through balls if you haven't noticed)

Lucas = Busquets (tackling + interceptions + composure) add first time through balls + the occasional attacking linking play into the box

Allen = Iniesta (dribbling + short passes + composure) minus the shooting.

Shelvey = the perfect partner for both of them because he has it all to his game; possession, composure, dribbling, attacking, defending, shooting, creativity etc

I really think that Shelvey is going to be the next captain.


Allen=Iniesta, LOL post of the day!


Shelvey you are joking !!!


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:43:37
Your all talking about "omg look at all this negativity" quite frankly it's the truth, we were awful today (1) and if you don't see that then your clearly Roy hodgson fans!
It's an opinion, some people are daft saying Rodgers will fail etc < this is nonsense - give him a chance yet.
BUT most negative comments are resulting to the fact we need a few players to provide an attacking option (2) and that (1&2) by far is the truest comments on this website!

Mo


By far one of the most incomprehensible posts on this website.

I honestly can't tell if you're being a moaner or moaning at the moaners or ???


I'm moaning at the moaners of negative comments, moaning at the people claiming failure by Brendan Rodgers already, and moaning about the fact it's obvious we were poor and need quality players


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:41:46
So by the critics standards we were lacklustre today. Secured a win. The quip that's done to death comes to mind "good teams can win even when they're playing badly"

Cheer up you grumpy barstewards!
ForzaRed


I was just about to post something like that, you saved me the bother lol


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:40:37
Just want to say a few things.
First of all why so much negativity off some people?
It's the first competitive game with most players still not anywhere near fully fit or got there sharpness.
It'll take time to get the team playing Rodgers style, a reckon it'll take to nearer xmas before we see signs.
There is still 3 weeks left of the window and reckon there will be 2 or 3 going with 3 or 4 coming in that in my eyes will complement rodgers style.

Give BR and the players time we don't have the cash like city to buy success!

SPARKY


Ha, ha. If you think that's negative, wait for the season to start, then we will hear from everyone!.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:29:56
Do you think the star loan could have been sahin, who now loooks like joining arsenal on loan? Johndog


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:30:39
oh that was painful, like having teeth pulled!! awful, just awful!!


Mate, its been painful for a longtime already, you can't have any teeth left by now!.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:23:40
No offence eds, but this site is getting boring. So much criticism and hate. It was br's first competitive game, against a good team in a difficult place to play. Still trying out players, tactics etc. and we won.
The problem isn't the players or manager or tactics. It's all the useless hatefull person fans. If have nothing good to say, keep your mouth shut. No real Liverpool fan wants to hear it. We stand by our team win lose or draw, and if it isn't a good performance, we get behind the team so the next one will be better.

Daveevad


Spot on mate

ste


Spot on dave.
at this stage last season we lost 3-0 to hull,
then the season starts the we draw 1-1 with sunderland and beat the gooners 2-0.relax...

red jay


No you'll for a real Liverpool fan wants the manager to slate players who play awful and not be a Roy hodgson and say "we played really well" WE REALLY DIDN'T! If you don't see a negative aspect in that game, are you sure you are watching the same game? We were the red team not white and green


Agree. Great Work from the Eds but far too many plastic fans. Not sure how much more I can take. God knows how the Eds cope. Really.

Red Machine


We are also not blinkered, the performance was not good, ok we got a result. That was the only positive, don't bury your head, we need time granted, but we also need players.


Couldnt have put it better Dave I cant stand reading all this negative nonsense. Anyone who knows about football would realise that Rodgers used this as part of our pre season and not read too much into the performance, most of the players have had little to no game time against a team who if nothing were up for it, Man city lost to Oldham the other night for example. I read an interview on LFC website by Henderson and underneath there were 10s of comments putting him down, the lads captain of the england under 21 s and still learning he has all the attributes to be a good player if we get behind the lad, remember Lucas.
Well done and stay Positive Daveevad. All you negative hate types remember we are the best supporters in the world so learn to support when its needed and not just when its easy when things are going smoothly.

Andy the Red


Against a good team?


Rogers gone by new year thank yod


I see a negative aspect in every game, as well as a positive aspect. My point is, fans dwelling on the negativity is no use to the team. Let the players and the manager dwell on the negatives, while the supporters actually support. Then results will come.

Daveevad


Could you please explain what this means?

"No you'll for a real Liverpool fan wants the manager to slate players who play awful and not be a Roy hodgson"

Seriously, I have no idea what you are talking about. It's almost like you just randomly picked out words.


I'm sorry but isn't the point of being a fan being ecstatic when you win and glum when you lose? I for one see positives and negatives, so sorry I show my frustration but a "real" fan has felt frustration in any game, whether it's a bad pass or a complete c*ck up

Mo


What I meant by that sentence was: Roy hodgson never ever said it at it was and still does the same for England. If you play sh*te the entire game you have no right to praise the team! Fact.


If you don't like it, then don't read it.


Back the manager give him a chance he is the only one who knows why fsg give him the job , we have to walk on with hope in our hearts and do not let him walk alone. red mick tag


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:21:55
What a load of persons saying we didn't look good tonight after one game, also heard a lot of people say Borrini is not the answer. Like ur opinion counts. Why is everyone an expert on what we should be doing and critiquing BR's tactics. Get your head out of the cloud's, playing football manager doesn't make you an expert. We all want instant success but after 8th
Ast season we must be aiming for top 6. Lget behind the manager rather than critiquing the "Brendan way"


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:20:29
Let's not have an adverse reaction to the first game lads.This game didn't tell us anything we didn't know, when Carragher plays we play deep.The gap between our defence and attack isn't ideal for the midfielders who have to come deep to start off the play.Let's judge the boys when we don't have to play Carra and Spearing.Love their heart but they are to slow.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:17:34
Find it hilarious the amount of people already ripping into the team and Rodgers already. Absoloute joke. Go and support Man City already.

Yes it wasn't the best performance in the world, but it's our first competitive game of the season, miles away from home, in a game that realistically didn't need winning. We take a 1-0 advantage back to Anfield and that is the main thing.

Fed up with the amount of people moaning about Gerrard as well. The number of times he has pulled it out of the bag, and 'fans' are slating him for playing badly against a team from Belarus.

As for Raheem, he's only a kid, give him a break. He's one of the most promising players coming through the ranks for years and it's great that BR is giving him chances like tonight. He's still got a lot to learn though so cut him some slack.

The real fans will get behind the team and focus on getting excited for the 18th.

I await the abuse from most of you.

Cheers

CSE9


Well said mate,the true fans know who they are

ste


Finally someone talking sense...

Gomel are in the middle of their season, we are in preseason!

Marc


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:17:15
Nani's contract ends in four years he is not considering to sign a new one, Brendan Rogers needs a winger on the right. BR (Brendan Rogers) is holding talks with Luiz Nani.

LBOY


Are you ok? Are you Ok Nani...


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:17:02
Becoming pretty disillusioned with most of the liverpool "fans" i see on here, give the team time, its pre season for us still and they are midway thru their season


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:16:56
Eds what do you think?
Looking like agger to Man City
AJohnson to LFC
Allen/Dempsey likely in
Defoe maybe in
Vargas maybe
Star loan maybe sahin?
I think the next week we'll start seeing lots of movement.
Evz


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:16:17
We should go for Fletcher from Wolves...great player!

meJPOR014


No, he is not.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:15:34
Hi Eds and fellow reds,I knou w it hurts us as fans when we play that bad but remember its still afew weeks until the big kick off,tonights game is a glorified pre season match and we will qualify.We lacked everything that will come with more matches and training under Brendan Rogers,players will come in and players will go out.It will be better when the prem starts.Players are nervous in this qualifiers against small teams,we got the win and we will be a milion miles better in the second leg.Its going to be a tough long season but keep the faith BR will have us playing well.Tonights performance hurt me as it hurt you all but be realistic its still pre season under a new manager,give it time.

Eric The Real Red
Y.N.W.A


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:14:14
I have had enough of all this negativity, two can play at that game im off to spout rubbish on the united and everton rumour pages about how fergie and moyes are crap, see how they like it (no real liverpool fan knows so little about football to talk that much crap) E.P.G.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:11:16
Great little win tonight. Congratulations Brendan on your first competitive game.

Mighty reds


Completely agree...winning is more then the result..it's a attitude that comes from confidence, we get a few more wins in the bag and maybe we'll start to see what players can really do

Well done lads!!
Bazingaa


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:10:30
i have been supporting liverpool for over 40 years and that is the worst display ive ever seen.i think the fans who were getting excited about the start of the season will be in for a shock.we needed the big man up front cant see us scoring many goals especially with borini playing there.


Lies I went to league cup games under Souness and Uefa cup early rounds under Houlier which were shocking... Stop being so dramatic it's game 1 for god sake


Did you watch some of the games under roy and kenny,i think not mate


Been supporting Liverpool for just as long and surprised at your lack of patience, Liverpool are rebuilding, this is only our first game and we got a good result, cant please some people

Bazingaa


If you've been supporting Liverpool for 40 years you should know better. 1st competitive game, We won and we will be fine. when players get match fit improvements will be made.

Sooty


It was our 4th pre season game. Gomel were playing their 17th competitive game.


What about that game when we lost to Burnley with the Traore own goal? Oh and don't forget Northampton at home. Cardiff in the Carling Cup was a shocker too.


Probably the same person slating Carrollast season. I hear city have some spare seats go join them...


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:10:03
Don't care what you guys say Enrique was our best player in that game. Downing second.....we don't have a third


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:10:02
Well, if nothing else we can say we learn't a bit from that game. Just hope BR did. Spearing is a back up at best, Jamie C needs to used as a late sub at best, Skrtel isn't suited to a ball playing style, Enrique seems to have left his ability in the North East, Sterling needs a season on loan. Cole is a goner, Big Andy wouldn't have got a look in tonight with the fast moving style. Apart from that, we won!!

Got to say we will take a pasting from the Mancs, Arse and Chelksi unless we sort ourselves out and improve radically.

Still, fully behind the lads and with a bit of tweaking the squad we can still make top 6 this season. At least I hope so as I just bet my mate £50 we will. Gulp!

nuclearboy


Seriously how is spearing "back up at best" he played shocking tonight....and the one person who would of made a difference with the way we played tonight is carroll


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:10:00
Sterling played well and Brad was my MOTM. The thing that impressed me most was Borini's movement. A few times passes were over hit, when he was through.

Job done.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Lucas motm for me

Red1


Blair you know what- nail head KAPOW


Totally agree Blair,he made some great runs and he will score a few goals hopefully when he and the players around him get their sharpness zoned in.Much better team performance's to come buddy.

Eric The Real Red
Y.N.W.A


Agreed with you, Blair. Thought Borini's movement was excellent. Unfortunately he didn't have a lot to work with, but he was all over the pitch for both offense and defense. Other positives (I'll avoid the negative, plenty of that on here already!)-

- The strike from Downing was very, very good. Hope he can hit a few more of those!
- Sterling had some good game time. A ways to go yet, but the kid could be something special in a few years.
- Congrats to Captain Jamie Carragher on his 700th game for LFC. Amazing achievement that most footballers could only dream of.
- And finally, congrats to Brendan Rodgers with his first LFC win! Hope to see many, many more!

RDL


Pretty much as I saw it, think Sterling just needs pointing in the right direction, very excited about him for the coming season.

Sooty


100% agree re Jones, saved our blushes big time. Sterling will get better and better - we all know that. He needs (alot of) work tho.

Lee YNWA


Sterling needs to be an impact sub this season to come on when players a tired and tire them out some more, we would get a heck load of free kicks from him.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:09:04
Not a great performance but a good competitive game in pre season. one chance one goal an improvement on last season already. Next week players will be a bit fitter and sharper the performances will improve steadily i beleive. so can we stop with all the negativity already, this was not great display but its only our 4th pre season game get things in perspective the West brom game is the most important one.

Cumbrian Red


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:08:07
I am happy....for once we play badly and get a result, the Rafa days are back GET IT!!


What are we supposed to go and get?


By that logic, is there any point in watching the game? You might as well just check the results. I am happy to take the odd win when we play badly, dont get me wrong, but I will not be happy with playing rank football. I am not worried about this game to be honest and we did what we needed to do but the attitude that we need to return to boring football for 1 nil on the break results seams very limited to me. Great finish by Downing, as a side note.

Andy K


That wasn't a sarcastic post btw


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:05:32
hopefully we will push hard to get someone is before our next game seeing as cole pulled a little something and realized that we only had sterling to send in.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 21:04:44
Looking forward to hearing all the clueless red fans criticise rodgers tonight. Effectively a pre-season game and first time rodgers will have been able to work with majority of 1st team. Add to that we will have some better quality to add to this team, suarez, lucas, allen, dempsey, loan signing etc. I don't care one bit about tonights performance as WE WON! I'm sure the lack of common sense will come flooding on this site tonight, shame! Anyway Rodgers has a 100% winning record in competitive games. Glass half full me!


Agreed.

Andy K


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:59:23
We need a new left back, Enrique has been terrible for a while now and he just panics when he gets the ball. Nagatomo would be the ideal player. Fast and good with the ball. 12 million.

We need a midfielder who can control the midfield and just keep it going.. Joe Allen. He is a necessity. We also need an attacking player such as Kaka who will drive through the midfield and do 1-2's high up the pitch.

As soon as we spread it wide we need the midfield to step up higher rather than standing on the halfway line. We need players to want the ball and we need them to make space ready for a pass. Look at how Barcelona play. There is always at least 2 people available to pass to. When you watch us we don't have players like that, we have players sitting too deep so they aren't passed to.

I trust Brendan and I am sure he'll get it right with transfers but we need to see more attacking play rather than defensive-midfield play.

BthekingB


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:57:50
Anyone else think borini looks like someone that played in Chelsea reserves a couple of seasons ago? Worryingly that may still be his level. Worried. Very worried..!


You're kidding, right?

A) The kid is younger than Dani Pacheco. Think about that for a moment.
B) His movement was excellent.
C) Unfortunately he had very little to work with.
D) This one is less relevant, but loved seeing him with his arm around Spearing talking to him while walking off at halftime.

Hope the kid score 20+ goals this year and makes you eat your words.

RDL


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:57:27
god it gets worse on here, We're not turning a team over 5 nil at half time and that's the season written off.
I love this site and filter through it every night.
But it seems to be attracting more and more negativity every day. It can be bloody hard work on here


FC Gomel would struggle against Brentford. Where does that put us ?


Gomel would hammer Brentford, you person


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:57:24
I can't understand all this negativity! We're 4 games into pre season against a team that's had a full pre season and now 17 games into the Russian season. We go to their ground beat them and it's we need 11 players, BR doesn't know what he's doing. Give the lads a break sharpness, fitness and cohesion take time to regain Gomel were far advanced in all 3 of these at this early stage in our pre season. Me I'm delighted we won there were some pluses to take from the performance and we continue to improve for the next game! Well done lads! Y.N.W.A

RR!


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:57:17
We really need Ramirez!

Ynwa
Carl


No we don't. Have you seen him in the olympics? Useless.


He would certainly be a good addition. Can see loads of advantages from signing Ramirez including keeping Suarez at lfc.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:57:14
Is this the liverpool supporters site ? Just checking because it seems that this site has become a site of negativity and whining...Ed's you must feel like slitting your wrists half the time with the amount of bitching thats posted.... Good win by the way lads... Tobiwan


Yes we ae liverpool suppoerters who have been patient enough from past 4 years singing the same excuses that we are in re building mode...common mate..any supporter would be angry by the way we played today...


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:56:32
Well lads, time for your thoughts on the match. Anyone else think Spearing may have dug his own grave at Liverpool FC? On the bright side, besides a few heavy touches from Sterling he looked bright and energetic and chased the ball really well. Shame we didnt get to see more of Borini's flair although I think thats more from the lack of support he was given. All in all I'd say quite a nervy performance.

JP.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:56:07
After training in extreme heat and 8000 miles of travel, getting 90 minutes under your belt in a competitive game is what we got tonight. Chill out guys.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:55:07
1 word for that game "shocking"!
you can blame the fitness as much as you like but the passing today was just embarrassing to watch.
absolutely awful, from defence to attacking. cannot really blame borini at all did not get one decent ball in towards him, but i think we are going to need at least a good few players who can do something attacking wise and bring in the striker and split the opposition apart along the 'ground'. these long balls are ridiculous, never ever worked for us but the players just cannot stop with it

overall very very very poor

mo


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:54:38
When will Brendan Rodgers realise spearing is totally useless. Please please please get rid of him!


Couldn't agree more.I really don't get why managers persist in playing him,I don't like to bad mouth people but he brings nothing at all into our team.
Bob


We'll need Allen first.

Kaizer


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:54:24
Hello Eds, just wondering if you can shed light on Agger's absence and if Reina has reported back yet? I think that he was due back on the 1st one of the Eds said.

Thanks. {Ed002's Note - Try the earlier answers.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:53:42
job done ray 3037


Apart from a great Downing goal.
Rubbish.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:52:53
There were 2 positives - 1, We scored & 2, They didn't. Other than that it was most definately not a memorable match. RED LENIN


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:52:43
hi eds
quick question now that uruguay are out of the olympics how early will suarez and coates report back for duty got they be in contention for bayern leverkusen or the second leg for fc gomel?
cheers laylow {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:51:58
Well we need to improve don't we.........

redphil


So do Gomel.....

Rob


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:51:40
It's amazing the difference when lucus comes on. Spearing plays backways and sideways while lucus like alonso used to gets us playing higher up the park. Gerrard has also offered more playing in the 10 spot but this still isn't one of his best games.

I also think we need a creative midfielder and let Adam and spearing go. That creative midfielder could be gaitan or Ramirez plus a pacey winger like Munian.

On a final note why did Rodgers sign borini he is so average it's unreal. He doesn't have one outstanding attribute about him. He reminds me of Kevin Doyle as he's good at most stuff but nothing that strike you as world class. Carrol is a far better player in my opinion.

Thanks jc.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:50:25
The worst performance by a Liverpool side I have seen for a long time. None of the players have played well, we have major work to do


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:48:37
Eds - Am I wrong to be worried about Pepe, have not seen him in training or heard anything about him is he leaving?
Jim {Ed002's Note - There was a PepeCam update earlier.}


Did I see pepe going into big brother house.MATTYLFC


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:48:33
Franco Di Santo an options eds? I think he's a great player and unlucky not to make it at Chelsea same as Borini! {Ed002's Note - I doubt it.}


I don't know what you have been watching, but Di Santo is absolutely terrible. You can genuinely find better players in the conference..


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:47:41
Lets all relax. This is one game and a (relativley) easy one. We are 1-0 up. If we were 2-0 down I could understand but we havn't looked like conceding and some real positives like Lucas returning and Downing getting on the scoresheet.

I seriously worry if this is what people are going to do in BR's first game. Give the guy time, lets not complain and for once be optimistic. Too much pesimism surrounded KK's time in charge, We are Liverpool fans, the best in the world, and now is the time to really show that to the world! Lord knows after the gloom last season our team could do with a lift...

Red-David-26


Agree we need to be behind the manager and your spot on that optimism is called for but I think to inspire that we need to offload the spearing and Adams of the team and get some exciting replacements!


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:47:30
Never thought I would say this but thank god for Lucas, pre season or not I've never seen Gerrard play so badly before and any one who thinks we don't need Allen needs to see how many passes were given away by Spearing, Henderson and Gerrard.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:46:18
There No9 is handy!


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:43:28
my opinion, i dont think lucas will have trouble finding his form. he looks confident. with time he'll be the same player.

Kaizer


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:43:26
my god is this the new liverpool way of playing, its horrid, and its going to be so uncreative and slow

midge


Too many people expecting fast passing etc.. it was martinez that set swansea up to play that way..


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:41:29
i know its early very early in the season but a few of the players are just not up to it ie spearing i never like slating a person but i just dont think he is good enough we are bad tonight but thats just fitness it wil come sterling showing a glimpse of what he can do he stil very young and this can only bring him on but i think we all need to know that spearing is just not up to the standard and thats not a dig just an observation on the lad the whole team lack fitness but as i said it wil cum a work in progress from irish red across the pond


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:40:38
Eds is it true that Lassana Diarra may come in this transfer window? A friend of mine met a guy in Paris last week who said he's good friends with lass an he was talking about a possible move to Liverpool last month. You have anything on this? {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:37:42
We need to remember Gomel are mid season!

Mike S


We also need to remember..we gomel are not chelsea or spurs...


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:37:07
Spearing needs to go and Brendan needs to sign a few players to bolster our attacking options thankfully I'm sure he knows this too so expect a few more signings
Lucky the red


It has been obvious for some time that although spearing is a trier he unfortunately does not have the skill required. I agree time to go


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:37:05
Ed, do you know what's going on with Danny Agger? Just wondering if you've heard anything about him staying or going? Our defense tonight looks lost without him... Thanks, Chris {Ed002's Note - Read the posts.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:34:20
ive belive one of are squad members are leaving and going on to chelsea. Do not yet know who this is but my dad know this stuff.


Please be spearing


Yea, I heard that one too, its Spearing for £24 mil.


It won't be anyone important i.e. reina, skrtel, agger, lucas, gerrard, suarez.

if it's true then it might be glen..?


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:34:05
Gareth Barry to talk to the club next week over a possible move. You heard it first!


Man-kini praised him no end at the end of last season and said what a fantastic part of the league winning squad he was. We have more chance of Milner and that would be at a push


I'll take him straight back!


Remember last time you started this Rafa?
Let it go.

BigBadBen


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:33:43
instant impact from lucas lol, barely on and changes the game lol


He is the player..we need to sell spearing and adam..and aqua..abring in allen..and then two attacking mid..like ramirez and dempsy...hendo isnt good enough...we also need a striker..an out and out striker..hope BR..would have got what he have in his hands...


Yes, agree

he gave the team soo much confidence don't you think?

his first part came with a closing down play with a tackle/interception which Gerrard long balled it to Borini (off target)
falling to downing and goal.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:33:08
Anyone else feeling great just seeing Lucas on the pitch again. I feel like we can actually win now.
Andrew


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:31:20
Downing!!!


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:31:18
i swear down this is 100% true downing scored


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:29:39
We clearly need time. Agger, Lucas and Suarez to come in plus 2 or 3 signings. Calm down.
Gazman


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:29:32
1-0 to the pool 68mins


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:28:49
the lucas effect!

x


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:28:44
Ian Ayre & the board are currently negotiating with the board of Ajax about the availability of Dutch Central Midfielder ANITA. Expect a bid to be placed by next week. Rumours from friend over in Amsterdam.


He plays left back doesn't he?


Hopefully he's not as girly as aquilani with a name like that.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:28:09
So that's why we paid 18 mill for Downing huh?

Patience is a virtue!

One positive, couple more please..;)

Lee YNWA


Why do people like you exist. He does one good thing and 100 bad things last season but now hes worth £18 mill. Use your head mate


.... Nah, I won't bother.

Whoosh - over your head!

Lee YNWA


Why do people like you exist. No sense of humour it's unreal.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:27:39
why couldn,t downing do that last season, hopefully with give him some confidence.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:27:18
Downing great goal from 20 ish yards. 1-0 to us. However i will still stay this is one of the worst performances I have ever seen from Liverpool...


25 yards ish you mean


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:27:06
Football matches are won on the field and not in 180 page dossiers or press conferences. We look s***e, no cohesion. Why is one of our best ball playing defenders at home, Rodgers you have plenty of questions to answer


First competitive game... technically in pre-season another MTV generation... I want it now! it takes time


Agger = Injured

Did we not win on the field you mug.

Ben


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:26:52
out of nowhere downing scores....???


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:26:41
r defence is non existant no creativaty in medfield . were is all the money from the warrior and cheverlot sponsorship deal. cmv05


There is no money from the chevrolet sponsorship deal, they're a car sponsor thats all. just because you hear the word "sponsorship" doesn't mean theres all of a sudden 50 million quid in the kitty


Warrior mony is at end of reignbow. Cheverlot just give us cars. Ar medfield r speshial.
So are you.

BigBadBen


End of a rainbow .u r a clown.cmv05


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:26:36
Stewart Downing with a impressive goal who would have guessed haha

Valley Red


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:26:33
Lol i cursed downing and he has just scored a scremer...


Mate we all just cursed downing then he scored a screamer


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:25:44
excellent play from BR...he would be kicking himslef that he joined us...I think we need atleast 11 players to buy..and still we dont reach CL.....
gomel just hit the wood...carra enrique are awful..
sterling should be loaned..and he is no where near first team..
spearing...no brains at all..
hendo...16 mill in water..
gerrard..looking horrible...
boroni...are we depending on this man to score 20+ goals this season?????


Who the hell is Boroni?

Thatracoonstolemybacon


We won against a fully fit team and Borini played well.

Ben


Not 11 players mate.. Maybe one or two.
It's about getting a manager & team who can get the best out of players Like Fergusion, Wenger, Moyes.. These managers get the best out of there squads that could be a lot worse.
If BR is the right man then they will play like winners.if not then maybe Benitez will be back come January


I can guarantee..benitez played better than this..we need a striker like torres..simple as that...sell caroll and get one like torres..lucas and allen should play all games..


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:24:15
How is jay spearing a Liverpool player, gave ball away and we should have conceded from it, sadly he just isn't good enough

Strad


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:22:14
Hendo looks useless in midfield.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:21:49
Can't really blame br for this. Doesn't matter what system or formation you play if the players can't control the ball, pass, dribble, or shoot. Good luck br


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:18:09
hi eds was just wondering if you guys know whats up with reina and agger not being in the squad? i would think extended holi's for reina but what about agger a bit worried honestly {Ed002's Note - TRy the search function.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:16:24
for those who were looking for the original "pelican post" this is it..

Thanks for the heads up on Granero Ed002, in that case I haven't got a bloody clue!...have you? ;)

Chris in Tamworth {Ed002's Note - The pelican walks slowly in November.}/

the background to this post is i invited regular posters to have a guess at who the loan signing might be,in an earlier guess,chris had guessed granero,
as for the pelican reference, i have no idea.

red jay


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:15:31
has anyone heard spearings name??

rubbish effort to take hold of the game..once again...only gerrard in midfield is doing everything...


am i right people

reddy


Gerrard was awful


No, actually Gerrard play wery badly, consatntly looked for free kicks and lost the ball.

However 1-0 is a good result.

Ben


Didn't help that he was having to play both his own and spearing's position.
the whole point in a defensive midfielder is to allow gerrard to get forward and get his head up.
instead he had to keep coming back to his CBs to get the ball

x


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:12:21
Huge gap between defance and midfield. play 4-4-2 BR 3 striker wait up front doing nothing as midfield very weak.


r-r


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:10:14
We seem to be lacking any direction on the attack, not enough bodies forward and poor midfeild movement.

bad show


Its our first competitive game of the season and were playing away under a new manager, get a grip of yourself. E.P.G.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:10:03
we're playing like we have no game plan


We're playing like we are winning one nil


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:09:40
Gomel vs liverpool

where can i watch that online?


Pls dont watch..we are awful......


First row sports


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:08:50
This Liverpool side must be causing a lot of fear to the premier league


Just like the Chelsea side who lost to the MLS all stars, or the Man City team who lost to Oldham.

Ben


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:08:32
Any news on the Carroll situation Eds? I know there's nothing to do but be patient and see what happens but all this talk of loan to buy is just daft. Would we really rather have a couple of million in the bank than an international striker in the squad for such an important season for the club? {Ed002's Note - There is nothing new today.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:00:54
I know were only looking at our squad players tonight as half of them wouldnt be playing ....but surely BR will be bemused as to what he has just seen....its alright playing "tiki-taka" in our own half but then we decide to hoof it up field...wingers are trying to cross from the lino and no one looks up for it...half the players on there are suppost to be fighting for a place....were playing as if carrolls upfront!

JOZLFC


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:03:32
Oh deary me, Enrique has been woefull for about 8 months now. He gives the ball away more than any other player. This ball over the top is not working at all, Gerrard needs to get an early shower and Jonjo needs to be put in there. They have been so slow on the ball and panicky in the midfield it's unreal. Big improvement needed for the second half all round really.

Fowler99


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:03:07
Dempsey will not be joining Liverpool and agger is not moving 100%


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:01:06
I cnt believe how poor we are up front i 4 one thinks rodgers needs carrol n if he does sell he needs two more strikers
Basy


Higuain = £4m loan

Borini, Dempsey = £17.5m

Fernandes, Allen = £19.5m

Amorebieta = £9m

= £50m

out
Carroll = £2m loan

Skrtel = £17m

Bellamy, kuyt, adam = £9m

= £28m

= £22m net spending


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:00:57
Just seen the ad for being Liverpool, looks very good, should be a good watch.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:00:35
It's Clear the Liverpool Board only really wan't to spend when they sell some players
no reall takers on Carrol (for fee they wan't ) after going public and looking a Joke, so next best Asset is Agger doing the same there with a player who would stay if offerd a new contract or Skertel it will then be Pepe or Suarez

THEY ARE PUSHING OUT AGGER

K.O.B


Nailed it mate


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:00:34
Why is carra captain please please please tell me that rodgers isnt planning on using him every game.
Jaydee ynwa

spearing and gerrard off, lucas and adam on, get shelvey on aswell


Cos its his 700th match, if you are a fan then you really should know this, especialy as i already posted it


It was Jamie's 700th appearance mate. Maybe that's why he had the armband.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


He has been vice captain for ages, and when Gerrard doesn't play Carra is then Captain, however you are wrong as Gerrard is on the pitch.

Ben


 

 

02 Aug 2012 20:00:18
Affellay's agent has announced that he is available on loan, with Liverpool interested could this be the mystery loan player?


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:59:17
Shockin start from liverpool!! Very lucky we aint losin! Br better do something after the break or its game over! Is this how br will always set us up cus if so against the bigger teams we will get torn apart! 1st competitive game n already worrying times!
HARDY1892 YNWA


I think we should judge Rodgers after one half. Forget waiting until christmas, get him out now. Grow up.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:59:05
Tired of all the negativity that has arisen from one half of football and Agger not being in the squad. First of all, it's early days yet and Rodgers work won't have effect for a few weeks yet so don't expect us to play like Barca and beat teams like Gomel 5-0.
Secondly, regarding Agger - maybe he hasn't travelled as the club know his history with injuries and considering he's just had a busy Euros with Denmark maybe they don't want him involved in these Europa league games, simple as that. I think he's just being given some time off so that he can last all of next season at top form. Chill people, chill.
Chris
YNWA


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:58:46
After watching first half i have to say Kenny made terrible signings in Henderson and Downing and Spearing is no way good enough to be anywhere near first team,why shelvey and Pacheco not in first 11 I don't know.. Allen is far better and does good job at ball retention which is why i can see him coming to liverpool...


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:58:36
i know where in a transitional period but we look terrible tonight no penertration and playing most of our football in our own half!!


Transitional period upto 10 years?


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:57:01
I think you should all calm down - half our team have just got back from their holidays and they're playing like it too. Yes we look awful, but i guarantee we'll give these boys a spanking at anfield. Or maybe we should sack rodgers and look for another manager at half time?


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:56:57
Massive Flop cleansing needed at the club?

Spearing... what it takes people to believe he is not good enough... just because his balls are scouse doesn't mean he has to stay.. sell him ASAP.

Downing, Cole... oh god

BR needs to get rid of these useless pests.

Stevie G unfortunately not the player anyy more... put Shelvey in midfield to get the creativity back....


Of course early days but come on we expect better than this...

Bosco


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:54:57
omg that first halfwas the worst ever tica taka football my ars. this season is going to be a disaster


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:53:52
This is absolute crap. We haven't changed at all since last season. It's the same old rubbish players. We have no creativity and are just boring to watch. I really can't understand why we are dithering around in the transfer market when we need different players NOW, not at the end of the window! I know it's the first competitive game of the season but we just look poor. I love the club as much as anyone but I can't stand to watch this anymore. We look like a mid table team, honestly we look like Stoke! We need players with flair and pace. Munain, Suseata etc.

Anyone agree?

Don't mean to whinge eds but come on its crap and as for Joe Cole and Spearing, you may as well put me out there as I would give more.

Neilp


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:53:31
hi eds and fellow reds.

Reds im trying, ive sacrificed my time of study to watch this crap. This is disgraceful, i would voluntarily eat grass before i carry on watchng this game . Gomel , Gomel are thretining when they go forward,( no disrespect to Gomel)
. this is gona be a very bad season. Enrique has been the most attacking player in the half,
Im very very afraid for the club i love and suport.
worried fan!


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:52:29
Firstly, Liverpool played shockingly bad in the first half. Made zero chances and tried to control the pace but couldn't. Secondly, what is wrong with cole...he gets his chance in a liverpool shirt and because he feels a little niggle he thinks its best that he comes off. Thirdly, why the hell is carragher captain, i hope Brendan isn't getting used to playing him in the first team because as much as carragher means to Liverpool he is certainly past his best. Lastly, why do i get the feeling that spearing is staying and is apart of Brendan plans as oppose to carroll? lets hope we see some answers eh...


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:52:26
Blimey!
This is not good. All look a yard off the pace! Pity Cole got himslef injured. Hope its a better 2nd half.
(It can't get worse!) C'mon! Get moving


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:51:57
Liverpool very poor in the 1st half. Carra looked bet after 20mins. Spearing seems to be getting a lot of the ball but doing nothing with it. I hope we don't turn into Swansea and have all the possesion but fail in the final third of the field. It can only get better I hope

Frog. {Ed002's Note - Perhaps not letting some players return from the tour is the problem?}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:51:35
Shocking display i know its away and our first competitive game but we lack width creative play passion we look so disjointed its untrue Mr Rodgers we need 4 new players asap...Joe Cole a joke..


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:50:44
I have it on good authority Liverpool will try and go forward in the second half.The usual suspects still showing how poor they are.Big changes still needed.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:49:37
How this game is still 0-0 at half time is beyond me, Gomel should be leading by at least 4 goals. If its team like arsenal we are up against and with this kind of performance we would be 6-0 down by now. Suarez is the only player who can create something in attack for us and people want him to be sold and he is not a big loss to liverpool according to some people since he is not world class. Just great, Get ready for another delusional season.

AJ


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:48:37
joe cole is a big earner and a big waste . is rogers blind .aqua is far better . cmv 05


Yep, the bloke that his last 5 different managers havent wanted to keep is the way forward. I would loose the two of them to be honest. To much coin for not enough in return.

Andy K


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:48:03
Well that first half wasn't great pitch is a bit ropey too. Im one of the more optimistic fans but they need more work and vast improvement before WBA

Mike S


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:46:56
Very poor first half from the reds. Champions league is a long way off


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:46:37
Wow, what a painful and lacklustre first half...

ALOT of work to do!

A few points:

*Spearing - lots of energy, but just not good enough.
*Downing goes missing ALOT
*Link up play, skill, pace is not there without Luis, so if rumours are correct - we're up s*it creek.

Oh...J Cole injured..shock, horror.(Sterling getting game time a bonus)

Sorry, was hoping for some positives to comment on, but if someone can enlighten me?

Hopefully Brendan gives them an absolute bollo**ing..!

Lee YNWA


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:43:42
Poor Liverpool. oh God How we are going to cope with City, Chelsea and man utd.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:42:47
Gomel way better they should be 3 up


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:41:28
Must be a requirment of managers job , that if you play well pre season you dont get to play
this is awful , no pattern or shape its worse than hodgson's play
K.O.B


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:41:23
This first half has been embarrassing


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:40:26
Please tell me I didn't just see carragher hammer sterling.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:40:01
If this is tiki taki..... I'm not into it!!


IF this is tiki taki,we better send BR backy
Derek


I said that we would nt make top ten this year .if this is anything to go by we will get religated


We will be lucky to finish 8th next season. what a mess


That was not tiki taka it was a bunch of players playing poor, but the concept kind of was there because as soon as we scored the other team gave up big time..!

poor defending from Glen and Skrtel

poor passing from Gerrard, Henderson, Spearing

poor keeping from Jones

Lucas came in and gave confidence to the team - THAT WAS CLEAR

Very good strike by Downing hope he stops being a wuss and starts playing like he did at Villa.

all in all we should have lost and kind of feel sorry for FC Gomel.


You can't change tiki taka to tiki taki to then make a rhyme, that's not within the rules.


Bunch of no names person, do you know anything about football? BR is new at liverpool and yet to have all the players fit and playing the way he want. how can you persons talk so much rubbish after our 1st competitive game?

If you can support the team, please city, chelsea etc that are trying to buy success have so many empty seats. don't let the gate knock you on the head on the way out.

Finesse - Seychelles


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:39:09
Agger doesent want to leave seems liverpool are happy to let him go for a decent fee if this is rodgers choice he hasnt a clue skrtel is nothing without agger he was best at euro 2012. Shocking ambitions by the club. This is very very sluggish see if we werent a fan if liverpool ud be sitting here thinking this team are most boring team to watch in workd no pace. Dont fit to rodgers style...


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:37:18
cant get no where with these average players, what did we expect? we needed to sell the likes of spearing, downing, henderson and put some flair in the team. RedTurk


For once I agree with Redturk


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:36:44
We can't attack at all..

BthekingB


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:36:19
Terrible, zero midfield, no pace or attack. the mighty European Champions Gomel are giving us a lesson in football.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:32:25
This game is far too soon for us, we're nowhere near ready and what's going on with Gerard? He's playing like he's drunk.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:31:57
Unless some major talents are brought in soon were in real trouble, gerrard is totally incapable of holding onto the ball, its like watching England but worse
Jaydee ynwa


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:29:59
This is horrendous to watch. No creativity and not enough penetration. We have far too many passive players on the pitch.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:29:09
Are any of the Eds watching the game? whats going on? carroll would be ideal the way were playing at the min...I know its no where near first 11 but were just hoofing it all over the place


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:28:31
Watching game and we are looking like lost team,, Gerrad is not looking good many mislaid and amibtious passes, Henderson and spearing no where to be seen and Cole just been replaced by Sterling due to hamstring injury looks like.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:26:19
Carra hoooof hoooof hoooolllllyyyy woooodd hhooooff


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:26:17
gerrard looking off the pace, cole is also injured..., still 0-0


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:25:40
Pelicans are particularly revered in Peru, any connection?


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:23:32
Cole injured 22 mins Sterling coming on!


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:21:22
eds reds re pelican riddle the pelican comes from texas dempsey maybe? steviep62


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:16:29
Carroll and Agger may be off. Seems strange that their suddenly injured. And someone wrote Aggers agent says otherwise. That hos not...Seems to me its setteled that their leaving. If this is the case....why are Rodgers and liverpool lying about it


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:15:28
joe cole 13 mins in hamstring injurie f-ckin joker


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:13:06
I'd also like to rant at the 'fans' saying things like "Brendan promised a big star signing and we got Borini" 1) the transfer window is still open 2) he mentioned a few signings not just 1 so he was referring to someone else and 3) have abit of patience and faith


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:12:35
Carra = tiki taka = pass and move = looloollolooloolllollollolllmfao


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:02:04
I'm seeing reports in interest for Swanseas Defender Taylor. I think he is good personally and would be good competition for Enrique, which people want, yet are saying Taylor is 'average'. IF his curling shot last night went in everyone against getting him would be over the moon with the link - I guarantee it. It's like the Allen and Ramirez saga..."Allen is average get Ramirez he is amazing" after Allen had 1 good game and Ramirez a bad game everyones opinions changed, and Allen is suddenly liverpools answer and Ramirez is overrated and overpriced... People need to stop being so picky and thinking players are gods gift after 1 good game, I've rated Allen for a while now, and despite his bad performance still rate Ramirez, don't make judgements from one game!


I'm sorry but Swansea players suddenly cost a fortune. They want £16mill for Sinclair, if Brendan is willing to pay that and not spend that type of money on Gaston or gaitan then you can guess which direction this club is going. Neil Taylor looks like good competition for enrique at the right price, not £15+mill or something ridiculous like that. Wake up Brendan mate your at liverpool


Spot on mate, but I don't think BR realises he's not at Swansea anymore.
Jay


The thing is mate, his shot was nowhere near the goal was it? He is a decent defender, nothing more.


It wasnt far off and Im just using an example of how fans see things. You just proved my point, he's a decent defender you said, he plays left back not upfront so why does he need more?! Also to the others I agree he and Sinclair aren't worth the amounts quoted, but for the right price would be decent acquisitions, Sinclair is different and they add squad depth which we need in those positions.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:01:58
Re Chris and Ed002 cryptic clue

This what I have gathered (using the clues Ed002 & Chris have left along the way) apart from the relation to football.

Pelicans migrate to the northern Usa/ southern Canada and leave that area in november. They also fly very high or very low.

Daleks can't go up stairs (well it presumsed so) and can't remember if they can't turn left or right. Or if I'm wrong on that completely!

I have nothing on Louisiana

I don't know if this will help but there you go.

My head is rattled with this one lol

K.Bennett


 

 

02 Aug 2012 19:00:18
Before everyone starts bleating, Reina is joining up with the squad TOMORROW. Pointless him travelling when he hasn't even trained yet. And he isn't leaving this summer either. Additionally, Jones is still looking most likely to deputise this season, meaning a GK signing of any kind is very unlikely this summer.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:59:01
Why is carra captain


Its his 700 match for us


Because its his 700th appearence for the club and as tribute he has the captaincy for tonight
LeeWils


Its his 700th game

x


We're selling Gerrard. Need the players to get used to Carra being the captain.




Nah. It's Carra's 700th appearance, so he's being given the armband for tonight.

- Something Red -


Because he has earned the right to be the captain and is also earning his 700th apperance for the club.
He is a Liverpool Legend so f*** off


SomethinRed you had me well and truly blagged leaving that gap before you put me out my misery with the second bit of your past. Silly me ha ha!
Jonson


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:52:16
Any news on transfers? Been quiet recently.

All I know is the Joe Allen deal.

Do you know anything new eds?

Loan star? or In and Outs?

A round up would be much appreciated and hopefully stop people asking the same questions over and over...

LFCHero ;)! {Ed002's Note - RTFP.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:45:32
Wtf....Spearing instead of Shelvey...let's hope BR is just putting Spearing in the shop window

Sprout


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:43:36
I how many English players there are in our starting 11, 2/4 defenders, all 3 midfielders and 2/3 forwards. Let's just hope they play well.
Red Dog.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:40:09
Agger isn't in any of the training pictures or the squad for tonight.
Red Dog.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:29:15
hey lfc fans...

i dont think spearing will make it.............not for lack of effort and determination..............
but purely a lack of class......quality.........in his role in midfield........

he just does a job........and i think he can do that for wolves..or sunderland..or some team like that........but not for lfc.....

most people are fuming at just how easy it was for chelsea to embarass him and our midfield that day........and by far shelvey has the quality to shine for lfc now and for the future..

anyway just getting my 2 pence in!

reddy


Thanks.........for your...2...pence Reddy......
BigBadBen


You know you only need one full stop right? Oh and spearing has been done to death.
CQ


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:17:00
Hi Eds.

As we havent tied up more than one deal so far do you think that Allen and possibly Dempsey will drag on in to the season?

Seems to me that other than the Allen and Dempsey links its just old stories being recycled. Tired of being linkd with the same players for two months. Want some news.

Thank you for your time and great effort.

Norwegian Blob
{Ed002's Note - It is not possible to say when the transfers will complete - but I would doubt Allen will complete before Team GB or whatever are out of the Olympics. Dempsey, again it is hard to say.}


 

 

02 aug 2012 18:16:04
lads if you want to watch your boys play tonight its on setanta sports 1..
any pub around the world that shows irish gaelic games will have setanta....

malaga gooner


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:15:55
No dani agger i hope he hasnt decided to leave too!
Basy


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:10:37
Agger not in team nor subs plus agent says he not injured could this mean he's off??


If he has got any sense he will be off!

Cban


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:06:38
Agger's agent has just said that Agger is not injured and is left out because it was the clubs choice. Smithy


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:08:13
Straight answer would be nice, where is pepe? {Ed002's Note - PepeCam puts him stuck in traffic on Edge Lane right now. I say stuck, but it is moving slowly. I can see him waving but I think he is just trying to swat a fly.}


Ha ha ha ha ed legend.


Back from Holiday today.


That's my kind of straight answer. Lol.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:05:50
Cant believe Spearing gets anywhere near that team still. Poor poor move if agger is going, rather lose squirtle.

Muzmacol YNWA


I'd rather lose Carragher mate and take his fat mates with him


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:03:51
Uh oh. Either Rodgers thinks Agger should have a rest...or else they're thinking of selling him. His agent says he's not injured.

-Shane.


No he didnt he said ask the manager


Have a rest? when was the last time he played to be so fatigued that he missed our last pre season friendly and this europa match. Either brendan is just giving a start to carragher because he feels europa matches and domestic cups should be used for the young and fringe players. Wrong way go going about europe especially.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:03:49
Jamie Carragher has been named skipper for the night as he makes his 700th appearance for Liverpool against FC Gomel in our Europa League qualifier.

Steven Gerrard plays but, to mark the special occasion, it will be our No.23 who wears the armband.

Glen Johnson is also in the starting 11 to make his 100th appearance while new signing Fabio Borini plays too.

The team is: Jones, Johnson, Enrique, Carragher, Skrtel, Henderson, Spearing, Gerrard, Downing, Cole, Borini. Subs: Gulacsi, Lucas, Adam, Shelvey, Kelly, Robinson, Sterling.


Easy 4 0 win.


Ohhh glad to see some of the youngster getting a start....... Oh no there not! Same team as kenny's bar Borini, that's progression for you.


300 too many...


You will find that it will be 433. KK never played that. Hendo will be more central (natural for him) and the lads need a game that missed the US tour


What you expect we've only signed borini! pleb


Dont recall Kenny playing Cole often, maybe I'm mistaken, or maybe he was on loan at Lille all season, but I guess he wasn't because you'd know being the expert team selector and all...


How do I work out to be a pleb? Wasn't it our own manager the person to say if your good enough your old enough? The likes of Owen and fowler playing at 17 for the club, wasn't big in build, yet still delivered the goods. It is basically the same team and I am sure that you will find that kenny did play a 433 system at times too and if cole wasn't on loan would have played him...... Now back too your FIFA boys!


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:03:00
Off topic, but positive news coming out of Aston Villa..

Stiliyan Petrov is in remission in his fight against leukaemia.

Bit of perspective for all the doom and gloom merchants out there.

Keep up the fight Stiliyan!

Lee YNWA {Ed002's Note - Good for him.}


Glad to hear it. He seems like a nice guy and good player.

RDL


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:01:30
edds can u please repost the pelican riddle because i couldnt find it using the search function. please i aint joking and please no smart talks. cheers

redh0t {Ed002's Note - I don't recall what it was.}


It was something like-
'The pelican walks slowly in November'.

Least that's what I remember...


 

 

02 Aug 2012 18:01:04
Heard a rumour that Ken Aguero will sign on loan for the season. I work in the Liverpool shop in L1 & weve had lots of U's & O's sent in.


That joke was dead about a year ago..........

Redman


Oh God, not this again.

RenegadeRed


Really...it's not funny


 

 

02 Aug 2012 17:56:28
What is this about king Luis saying he will not return to the reds until after the France Uruguay game eds {Ed002's Note - Sorry, I know nothing of it. Twitter?}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 17:26:53
I see Arsenal are hoping to conclude a loan deal for Sahin. I'm sure some people will suddenly decide that we were in for him, because it was on Twitter or something, and demand FSG and Rodgers be shot over it.

- Something Red -


 

 

02 Aug 2012 17:48:14
I added a small piece of humour to my last post and everyone had a go so I'm just going to ask a straight question. Are we looking at Ben Arfa as we no longer have a clear cut right winger and he is great in that position?

TheRedWire {Ed002's Note - No.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 17:41:00
In my opinion there's a really good chance that Gaston Ramirez will be signing for Liverpool and not Man City. Our Interest has been clear from the start although it quietened down for a while, that could be an indication that negotiations have taken place. Sebastian Coates and Luis Suarez could play a massive factor in the decision and I think negotiations for the transfer of Gaston Ramirez have been ongoing for a while now. Liverpool can also offer Gaston Ramirez 1st team football and with him only being 21 he definitely fits the criteria. Could this be the star signing Brendan was referring to? Time will tell.

In my opinion Joe Allen is definitely coming to Anfield this season and what a signing that will be. He's a fantastic player and if he does come for 10 Million or so, that is what you call good business. I think Clint Dempsey is also coming with Charlie Adam going the other way as part of the deal. Charlie Adam has a good left foot on him but it's pretty clear to all the backroom staff that his services are surplus to requirements.

Alberto Aquilani will be moving to Fiorentina once a price has been agreed but only after the Joe Allen deal has been completed, whether Juan Vargas comes the other way is anyones guess but I do think he could be a decent option to have and with the right training and guidance he could turn out to be a massive signing for us next season. The left side with Enrique and Vargas could be very promising, they're both physical and good on the ball.

I would personally love to see Theo Wallcott at Liverpool and I can see this materialise into something. Theo supports Liverpool and is under 25 he is also available for around 15 Million too. Something we lack is speed, he's English and with the right training, his decision making can improve. He could be an excellent addition to the squad.

In my opinion this Star signing on loan will be a striker. Once Craig Bellamy leaves and Dani Pacheco leaves too, expect to see another striker brought in, my guess is it's David Villa but that's just my opinion.

Daniel Narciso YNWA JFT 96

#Gaston Ramirez


I have to say I agree with everything you have posted, including about Walcott (who I'm not the biggest fan of to be honest).

I wouldn't at all be suprised Ramirez in LFC shirt next season!

K.Bennett


If all of that happened i would be a very happy man. how badly have we needed some pace in our team? that could really frighten defences. feel like its unlikely though, just don't get the impression walcott is being looked at by us...

would also like to see pacheco see this as his make or break season and try and nail down that left forward position.

x


 

 

02 Aug 2012 17:31:15
Loan star is RVP haha I joke though it could be anyone, kind of getting sick of seeing people ask the ED's now. Wait and see like the rest of us.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 17:11:48
Espn is claiming RVP to Juve is a done deal. Not sure if that's true or not have you heard anything? Thanks

Mike


 

 

02 Aug 2012 17:11:07
Id be happy to see the following In's,

Butland - 6 million (loan back if Pepe stays)
Dempsey - 6.5 million
Allen - 12.5 million
Mirallas - 6.5 million

total 31.5 million

Outs to hopefully be,

Aquaman - 3 million
Eccelston - 1 million
Spearing - 2 million
Jones - 1.5 million
Adam - 4 million

total 11.5 million, Net spend 30 million including Borini.


Brad jones is probably worth 300,000-500,000


 

 

02 Aug 2012 16:53:45
I have heard that Liverpool have sent scouts to the olympics to watch the Japanese team and the Senegal team. Is there any truth in this eds.

Scouse ben {Ed002's Note - Their Nissan Micra was seen just outside of Dunstable as reported on Twitter.}


Classic Ed002 reply! Love it.

AG


Its not often you're wrong Ed02, but everyone knows that since the deal, LFC scouts now drive Chryslers, so it couldn't have been them.....

BigBadBen {Ed002's Note - They are only changing cars after 100,000 miles.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 16:41:44
IN:
Allen
Dempsey
Gaitan
Amorebieta

And maybe Sinclair.

I believe these are looking most likely.
Any thaughts eds?

NorwayLFC {Ed002's Note - I would not say Gaitan is "most likely".}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 16:35:33
So every one is panicking about Liverpools next signing.id be more worried about Pepe leaving as he is no where to be seen,my money is on AC Milan .said ages ago he was going now looks likely as every day passes


He's been on holiday.


Pepe returned to Melwood yesterday, on time.


We've had "Pepe will leave" 2 years in a row now and he remains a Liverpool player. There isn't even any real smoke around it at the moment, certainly not compared to Agger, Skrtel and Carroll.

He only returned to the club after his holiday yesterday, do people really expect him to play tonight?

- Something Red -


If pepe wants to leave,we should just sell him for some gd money.
not the end of the world if he leaves.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 16:32:48
Will there be highlights of the game on any channel tonight after the match?
So p***ed off its on Premier Sports.


It's on LFCTV on Saturday at 9pm

Hans


Its also on Setanta Sports 1 and Fox Sport

Rocky


Its on setanta sports 1 or tomorrow at 7 on lfc.tv there showin the full match


 

 

02 Aug 2012 16:26:47
hi...how the hell we spend so much money in the last few yrears for flops..? who incharge on that? aqua 20M, robbie keane 20m , carol 35m, downing 20m,henderson 18m . with this money we could be one of the best team in europe but now we are mid table team...give the any stupid this amount of money and he will do much much better !


It's quite funny considering 120m worth of players has done absolutely nothing for our club


Barcelona flops
Ibrahimovic 69m
Chygrinsky 25m
Hleb 16m
Caceres 15m
Kerrison 14m

Manu have bought some duds too;
Veron, Bebe, Hargreaves, Djemba twins, kleberson, bellion

In fact I'm sure we could go thru every 'top' team in the world like this. 

SpudRed


But I'M becoming less and less happy at Henderson being described as a flop- I think
he has a big future at Anfield
Puzzled


 

 

02 Aug 2012 16:22:28
Anyone got a decent site for the match tonight?
I'm suprised it's not on ch5 or ESPN
PT77


There is VIPbox, search it in google. It's pretty good for watching online games.

Jolly Red


If you live in america its on Fox Sports Net


 

 

02 Aug 2012 16:20:47
Is caught offside a good source of transfer info? {Ed002's Note - Typically such sites pull information from other sources and collate it. The best test of "goodness" is to search the archive for Coentrao moving to Liverpool and see if they are on Ed002's side of the fence (the Good Guys - cheer) or the "on the way to Liverpool", "deal agreed" or "Kenny told price" side of the fence (the Bad Guys - boo).}


It seems that websites like caught offside use a high sophisticated programme by which a random player, fee and team are included. After this happens, a four year old fills in the blanks in the story and viola, bullsh1t is created.

Jolly Red


 

 

02 Aug 2012 16:20:35
Clint dempsey is a beast of course he belongs at liverpool


"Clint dempsey is a beast of course he belongs at liverpool"

Just been on youtube!


Or been watching the premier league for at least the last 4 years. Dempsey is a quality player.

SpudRed


 

 

02 Aug 2012 16:16:26
I have heard City are lining up a move for Skertel and Rodgers may offer a swap deal for Joleon Lescott


Skrtel is twice the player!


Spend another couple of days reading archived media stories. You're only about a month behind at the moment.

SpudRed


I nearly got excited there I though city were lining up a bid for Rogers


 

 

02 Aug 2012 16:06:46
Hi eds, now Uruguay are out of the Olympics how long will it be until Suarez and Coates will join back up with the squad. {Ed002's Note - THey will likely get a few days off and could even be allowed to return to South America for a couple of days. It won't be long as they have already had their vacation time.}


I'd say Monday there will be back

They have match fitness or are getting there so a few days of wouldn't hurt and they would be back and ready for the home friendly vs Leverkusen on the 12th of august. {Ed002's Note - They have done their preseason at the Euros so they should eb ready to play next Thursday.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 16:02:09
it seems the joe allen and Clint dempsey deal are almost complete, the Theo Transfer will never stand as he just wanted better wages and i think one young gaston ramirez has been spotted speaking to some english looking chaps down at the olympic village seen it myself, Dave - Fulham


Speaking to some English looking chaps? In England? Now I've heard everything


 

 

02 Aug 2012 15:54:27
Eds, if you could post this on the Banter page -

For any of you wanting to get decent streams, a bloke in the pub gave me this site and it's actually pretty decent, it's worth a punt if you're finding it difficult on other sites...

livetv.ru/en/

JP.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 15:52:58
Eds, Ive got a mate who knows a mate who works in melwood....and he reckons all money gained from selling players wont be used for transfer funds....infact the money will be used to expand melwood because of the amount of "mates" who work there....you heard anything about this?

mateInside


Haha Well said


 

 

02 Aug 2012 15:17:56
I think I have put my finger on why Suso is back in the reserves.

The staff don't feel Suso isn't ready as a player yet and that is mostly coming from Rodolfo Borrell who said it numerously last season and must have advised Rodgers. Anyone who watched the nextgen series last year will agree he has some improvement to go.
As good as he was for spain and in pre-season this summer, its nothing like the premier league. The last thing he needs is a couple of bad games and all of a sudden people don't rate him anymore.

Also it is not right for his development to be shoved in the deep end so soon, he's only 18 and the physicality could ruin him. Look what happened to Wilshere, that's the last thing we want.

He is obviously a class talent and I think the club are just being careful with him. He may be in the reserves now but may get a few cameos here and there during the season. I just hope they don't wait too long bearing in mind he only has 1 year left on his contract, but when it comes to developing young players I think Rodolfo Borrell is a man to trust.

gh*lfc ( just my theory, don't hate )


Suso tweeted somthing mate which was meant to upset people at the club. I don't know what he tweeted but it was quickly removed.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96


Sounds reasonable suso is exceptionally talented but needs time to flourish and grow if he gets played and is not Lionel messi after 20 mins the knockers will be on his back creating the "Lucas syndrome" (still surprised that the majority have not learned from this hendo needs support not chastising) & could kill his confidence needs easing in steadily.......paisley's genius


Hi Blair I believe it was something along the lines of 'back in the reserves! Something's never change! Or words to that effect! Just hope the lad doesn't lose patience and decide to leave! saying that Borini stated in an interview that he's been telling the younger boys thats how it is at a big club and to keep pushing!

RR!


All he said was 'Back in liverpool now, training again with the reserves on Tuesday...nothing ever changes' and then quickly removed it


Thanks lads I never got to know what he tweeted. As it was removed so quickly.

Thanks

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - I thought I told you not to use Twitter Blair?}


He said,back in liverpool,training with the reserves,never said nothing ever changes,thats crap


He tweeted something along the lines of '"I am back in the reserves again, nothing ever changes." I don't think it was those exact words but very close.


Anyone who seen the u19 championships and the cameos he put in on the preseason tour would beg to differ.

He has improved soo much over last 6months, his form has been better than morgan's (who didn't show any improvement last season) and was better than sterling's in my opinion.

Ngoo should have been on the tour ahead of Morgan and Ecclestone also.

and SUSO's to his credit he scored the only two goals of the reserves first preseason game. Playing on the right (RWF)

and in every game Ngoo has played in the preseason he has either scored or assisted. We have a Crouchy on our hands in him. his ball control, pace, strength and quick feet is there he needs a few apprentices this season in some cups.


I don't use twitter, Ed mate. A couple of posters posted on here and said he could be off because of his tweet. But I never did know what he said until now.

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - OK, I'll accept your answer Blair. But I am watching you. I don't want to see you becoming friends with Kenny Huang on Facebook either.}


Facebook is worse than Twitter, Ed mate. How many loyal servants/followers do you have on FB now?

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - I have no idea Blair but it is a good opportunity for folks to sign up: tinyurl.com/c6j7t2m }


I dont think sterling is ready too. he might be beating all the defenders in reserves bt its not that easy in senior lvl, he needs to improve his first touch too. i just hope whats happening to wilshere wont happen to him. he's definitely a special talent along with suso

Kaizer


 

 

02 Aug 2012 15:07:47
Ed what is this Pelican thing?! lol thanks :)

Zero


Its a bird


Remember the pelican is the state bird of Louisiana ;)

Chris in Tamworth


With a big beak...


Not the bird -_-

Zero


Its a clue (all though to what i am not sure ) , it is referencing a pelican crossing and the number 9 . could be a man switching from green to red -could be reference to the black and white stripes on the crossing and 9 could be a squad number or a transfer value . only Ed0002 and Chris in Tamworth relay know i fear
CrAsH


Demba ba Newcastle 9


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:57:44
Hey Eds I may be way off the mark here but this riddle with the Pelican and Daleks, is the significance with the pelican a team that plays in yellow and black and that November is the ninth month so this player would wear the number nine shirt?
I may be way off the mark here but i cant keep looking over my shoulder with interesting facts about Daleks on my screen!
OwenLl {Ed002's Note - What months do you have in your years?}


Haha sorry I didn't explain, November comes from the Latin word novem which means nine
OwenLl {Ed002's Note - And Oct eight and Dec ten.}


So yellow and black could be Borussia Dortmund?

No 9 is Lewandowski?

What has this to do with daleks or was it stairs? This is niggling at me, even if nothing comes of it on actual transfer terms, just put me out of my misery!

Who is it alluding to?


The thing that irritates me about this cryptic clue you people are going on about, I have missed the whole start. What was the clue and what was the context (don't tell me to look at the posts)
Puzzled {Ed002's Note - Have someone else use the search function for you if you are not capable of doing it.}


And Legs 11

Puzzled


Daleks can't climb stairs, just like wolves couldn't climb the up premier league and finished bottom

Therefore..... wolves are going to sign Lewandoski

I'm right aren't I Ed

Red Head


Where is the origninal riddle from ed002? {Ed002's Note - Search function.}


ED002 you can be a bitch sometimes

Puzzled {Ed002's Note - Who types these messages for you?}


The Russian League ends in November. So the player would be walking then instead of running.
Google "pelican cryptic" and it says footballer that can cross we hear.
Dalek and stairs. Daleks always used to stop at the bottom of stairs. In the later episodes they now fly up them. When they could have done this before why did they let their targets get away?
This all points to CSKA Moscow's Keisuke Honda. We could have signed him ages ago but for some reason decided not to.
Either that or the Ed002 and Chris in Tamworth are just on a wind up.
Redgib


Liking your thinking Redgib

K.Bennett


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:52:22
Sessegnon and el mohammedy in a double raid on sunderland.
We wont pay inflated price for american. Fsg want him as he will boost lfc in the usa immediately but will not be parr of the squad that Rodgers is prepping for 3 years time.. Expect tht tge american is the only exception to the buy young rule that FSG will make.
The loan move is for Pato. Also keep an eye on royston drenthe.
YnWa the Pirate


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:49:28
Eds, do you think Dempsey, should he be signed, would be used as a striker or AM? Also, people are automatically putting Stevie in our midfield three, yet given that last season he was injured a fair amount, is there a chance that Allen could come in as a long term replacement for Gerrard? Or that Gerrard and Allen will share the CM role rather than play alongside one another? {Ed002's Note - Dempsey is versatile - it is one reason for buying him.}


He can play
alongside gerrard in 433
he can play lwf
he can play rfw
he can play am


And striker. He's done so occasionally for the US national team as I recall.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:41:12
Hello Eds do we have any interest in Isco ? I just want to see atleast one real Quality player brought in this summer. {Ed002's Note - Barcelona have shown some interest in Isco but I am not so sure Malaga would want to sell but they have ownership issues. Rumours of Real Madrid being interested as well.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:30:55
Hi Ed/s.

Can any of you enlighten me as to why Reina isn't with the squad yet? I mean, the majority of our stars (Gerrard, Lucas, etc) are back with us unless they're still busy (Suarez: Olympics), but Reina isn't yet with us and isn't busy in any tournaments. I'm not asking if he's going to leave us, because personally I don't think he is; but more a question of is he just on an extended holiday? Wouldn't he need some game time to prepare for this Season?

Also, now that Uruguay are out of the Olympics how long do you think it'll be until Suárez/Coates join up with the LFC squad? Will it be pretty immediate for our friendly against Leverkusen, or a bit later? I'm hoping for Suárez to be ready for our first Prem game (West Brom)!

Nice one, Ell. {Ed002's Note - I don't know anything of Reina but keep in mind Suarez and Coates have already had their vacation. I would expect the club will allow them a few days and perhaps they will return to Uruguay.}


Reina returned from hols on wed the 1st so not in contention for this match


Everyone in the Euro's where granted 4 weeks from their last game in the tournament. Which means both Reina and Borini had until August 1st to report in after holidays. Borini deliberately cut his short to join a week early in order to meet his team-mates and perhaps be ready for the first Europa game. Reina already knows his team mates and probably wouldn't have played anyway.

SpudRed


Back next monday


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:20:12
agger is deffo goin am gutted


Oh no he isnt


He's behind you!


I've heard maybe he is or maybe he isnt


 

 

02 Aug 2012 13:11:33
How many of the Liverpool Eds are American?

Red Machine {Ed002's Note - I have no idea but in addition to myself there is at least one other American Ed - but I don't think he comes anywhere near the Liverpool page.}


Are the Ed's all freinds? I know somebody in North Wales who claims to know Ed001 but has been sworn to secrecy not to tell anyone. Probabbly
BULL s***!

Sam Adzii jft96 {Ed002's Note - "Friends" is very broad term Sam. Ed001 does get around of course and I do recall he was once on the run in North Wales.}


Ed002 you're american mate?! Had no idea! where abouts u from?? do u hv a strong american accent?

lolwut {Ed002's Note - I was born in the Pacific Northwest and grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area. Given I left more than 30 years ago there is little trace of an accent.}


It's well known that Americans don't have accents. Well, at least those not from Boston, Mississippi, and parts of Minnesota.


Ed, is it true that you are tall, blonde and have massive bazooka's? {Ed002's Note - Medium height, balding, one bazooka.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:59:03
Anyone one know where I can get a link to the match tonight?


02 Aug 2012 16:25:33
Ed002 is right you guys should read more posts. its been answered at least 3 times last 2 hour.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:54:49
Game on free tonight . hahasport.com or streamtv.tv


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:49:16
I am Liverpool fan and in all seriousness does anyone think we should cut our losses with Luis Suarez? Everytime he opens his mouth he digs himself in a deeper hole. His goalscoring record isnt even that Good 11 league goals in 31 games. If you take Norwich out of the equation he had a poor season. I hear about his ban from fellow liverpool fans, but in reality most of them were cup games. Are we being too protective over him? He isnt a goalscorer is what people say he is off the front man. Why does every interview he does say he lives for scoring goals and if he doesnt score he isnt happy. Something doesnt add up?


Suarez isnt an out and out striker, his best postion is behind or to the side of a main striker, he is world class, you must be blind to not see this!


Something doesnt add up?


A bit agree with the post. Suarez need to find the net more , then the media sure can't ignore his talent. he is a great player but some time talking less can help you.


In my opinion, the absence of Lucas and Suarez for a huge portion of last season affected our form. Both should be on a starting teamsheet every day for me. I was sorry to see Torres go but thought Suarez was a great replacement. I hope we do all we can to keep him as I don't think we've had too many players of his quality throughout our history.


No, you're completely wrong. In every way possible.

SpudRed


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:43:40
The player liverpool where looking to sign on loan was nuhri sahin of real madrid but sahin is in talks with arsenal over the same deal after told by madrid he is not wanted.

Joe Allen will have a medical after the olympics after agreeing general terms. Jonjo will go other way on loan

Daniel sturridge and scott sinclair are rodgers other targets with taylor also being looked at for LB.

No news on carroll apparently he wants to fight for his place at liverpool.

City offering Adebayor+Richards+15M for Agger and skrtel. Barca also interested in agger

Jay spearing wanted by a number of championship clubs and west brom

Clint dempsey deal hangs on adam as he has also stated he wants to stay. liverpool unwilling to pay over 8m for a older player

Rodgers will also look at youth signings and nathan redmond tops his list

FSG have flown there own man over to over see the deals

Kopite94


Losing our centre pairing is a big risk.. But Richards would be great addition. Imagine Richards+any of our other CBs would be immense.
Instead of Adebayor, if City offer Johnson, then we should accept it..
Kelly is a good defensive player.. So Richards+Kelly in CB, why not.. Richards originally started off at CB.
Sinclair & Sturridge no please. We can better players for the money which we would have to pay them..

Chaki


If there were any truth to this Im sure we could get a better deal than that involving tevez...especially if rvp does go there...even if its a season loan...no doubt about it..tevez,suarez and borini would run riot...exactly what we need.


Sorry but no way in hell, Richards is piss poor have any of you been watching the Olympics, hes been the worst player in our back 4 by miles always making mistakes and I wouldn't let Agger go, Id swap Skrtel for Adebayor and money but his wages are a big problem and we would need a replacment. Tbh we would never let both CB's go and why would City want both with Kompany already at CB.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:43:02
Does anyone else think Afellay could be this "star" loan signing.. if it comes to pass! I know a lot of people wouldn't class him as a star but I think he is and compared to the quality of player we have signed over the last two or three windows well then he is most certainly a star. Classy player, needs some refinement but would obviously love the Rodgers style of play and he has all the raw materials.. pace, strength and skill. He would offer options out wide and centrally in midfield.. people forget Afellay is well able to pass and dictate play from a deeper position. Might be a transfer that suits all parties.
The Gooch.


Could be anyone . I just think it's not Messy and C Ronaldo rest all is possible.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:38:26
hi eds all reds i posted yesterday , regarding how much the team may need to be changed or not, down to who stays or goes. if most stay , and we have a mature look about us , three players who i would like to see join us, similar age and standard in my opinion. midfield, to give some flair and dictate the game for us , would be deigo, brazil. i know bad attitude etc etc. but he is class and wouldnt cost a fortune , maybe even loan him? further forward, honda, can play centre or wide , again class and not very expensive. third and most contraversial is torres! i read on here , from another poster , that he thought stevieg would be up for torres to come back, if he can handle so can i. everyone is up in arms over andy carroll possibly going , for hallf of what we paid for him , well to even things out , we get torres back for 25million , not to bad then. reina johnson enrique skretle agger lucas gerrard diego honda suarez torres i know one or two of those will cause dissagreement , but just on footballing ability , maturity , and balance , excitement and threat to the opposistion , i think thats a top four side. i would still sign allen if we could , he with henderson , in the near future would be very good. also , dempsey i would sign also. ive been talking about dempsey for about a year , hes quality and experienced and he fights for nintey minutes! we cant get the very top players at the moment , lack of cl , prestiege and money , but all those players are quality. we will have one of the best groups of young players in the premier league waiting in the wings to complement that team. all just my opinion and i do know certain players may leave , and replacements have been discussed , and the eds have given us all a good insight into who would come in. i would still tip us for top four. we come not to play , we come to win! come on redmenm! godbless 96 all reds. steviep62.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:40:51
I was at the GB game last night. Bells was quality again. Not sure about butland and allen. Butland is a great shot stopper but a very poor distributor of the ball. Allen wanted the ball all the time, which is great. He keeps the ball well giving it easy and he can also tackle but noticed last night that Uruguay doubled up on him pinching the ball from him in key areas on numerous occasions. Thought sturridge was awful also. Glad rumours have silenced on him signing.


Allen was good accept it man.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:35:37
Liverpool are interested in Alvaro pereira for 15m


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:33:59
FOX Sport is showing LFC game in North America


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:21:52
just wondering what peoples opinions of pushing kelly to CB are? or do you think he's better at RB, i was just thinking he could be carras replacement?


He is good in CB but some time he become emotional and go forward leave his place empty that cost the team.


Kelly will in time become a top class centre half mate and as for leaving his place open or empty,that will be the up to to the DM to drop back, or the other back three to close up.Hansen and Hughes were fantastic at stepping out with the ball,I love watching footballing centre backs.I think you have watched to much of Houlier and Hodgson football mate.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:24:51
Can anyone explain why Rodgers doesn't seem to rate either Pacheco or Suso. I thought they did pretty well on pre season tour and are young stars with a great future. Also with Caroll and Bellamy leaving, who are the most likely strikers to be brought in?


I thought that Pacheco did better than Morgan, Sterling and Ecclestone. Guess the british mentality is still there..sad


Pacheco does look to have more talent then Morgan or Ecclestone, as well as a very good attitude. Didn't think Suso was all that great but haven't seen too much of him. Maybe he needs more time then people think


Not true - we've already started signing foreign players again. Besides, when considering readiness for the first team I'd imagine Borrell would have a say - and I kind of trust the man who trained Xavi and Iniesta to know how to nurture young talent.


Morgan and Ecclestone are only keeping the fontline positions warm mate.Shows how weak we are in the striker department at this time.It's being adressed though.Ecclestone will be out on loan or sold by the end of August


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:16:08
Liverpool have missed out on Adam Johnson. He is going to Sunderland on loan.

James


How can you miss out on someone you were never in for?


 

 

02 Aug 2012 14:11:05
As this is the time of year for MOTD fever, scandalous rumours and outright lies I am going to throw out a whisper that I have heard. The "marquee" loan signing that Liverpool are after is Gonzalo Higuain.

I have been told that the initial fee will be £5million with a further sum of £30million to be paid at the end of the season. However, this secondary figure will only be paid IF Liverpool make it in the Champions League, otherwise the deal will be off.

There may be a grain of truth to this or it may just be wishful thinking. I'm just sharing, it's up to others to guage the validity of the rumour.


 

 

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02 Aug 2012 11:44:44
Can any of the eds tell me why Pacheco isn't in the Europa squad having played so well in the US tour? {Ed019's Note - Maybe Rodgers doesn't think he's good enough?}


IF BR thinks Pachecho is not good enough, don't tell me he think Joe Cole and Downing is good enough....

Bosco


Or or orrr it could be that pacheco has done enough and hes giving cole a last chance to prove himself? lol i dont know
Ruben


Rodgers is the one who is not good enough.

Real Red


Only Downing out of those three

cozinoz


Joe Cole proved himself over a whole season at Lille. Pacheco has done nothing more than 2 O.K performances in pre-season.m


I will sale cole now. as he can bring £4m to 5m now.


Bang on everyone that thinks Buck Rodgers is crazy to not think Dani P is a world beater. He's only been coaching and judging kids readiness for as long as Pacheco has been alive and he only has a youth coach that trained Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and Cesc as a secondary judge. We all know better.

P.s. just 'cause you're not picked for a Europa league qualifier does not mean you aren't in the managers plans.

SpudRed


 

 

02 Aug 2012 11:23:32
Well eds what does bumper contract mean as it says liverpool have agreed terms on a bumper contract with Joe Allen also do you see any deals being completed in the next week ? thanks
{Ed019's Note - We cannot say exactly when the deal will be completed, but I think it will be after the Olympics}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:20:01
eds what's going wrong? Everyone is repeating themselves I said everyone is repeating themselves.

MUSHROOM {Ed019's Note - We're working on resolving the issue}


Is it them t***s who send the same post in twice?
derryred


 

 

02 Aug 2012 11:23:01
Are the red men on tele tonight?


Read the other countless posts about it.
derryred


 

 

02 Aug 2012 11:16:01
Growing tired of all the "world class talent" posts, Chelsea used this tactic and still do and we deride them for their lack of history, Man City do it all the time and should be derided for their lack of class, why do you think we were able to take some of their scouting staff, they know they are wasting their time at city. I prefer the way we are doing business, recognise and identify young talent and nurture them into world class players. Before people squeal and scream that we would then sell those players for a profit and we are no longer a big club, if this situation does happen we make a profit and bring on the next talent.
I grew up with the dominant Liverpool of the seventies and eighties and at the time we were criticised for buying the league and it was rare for a young player to come through. The modern game is different now and in the last couple of years I have taken greater pleasure in watching the academy players than the first team, they are playing with less pressure and none of the fame but are playing for their futures.
Also to highlight the standard of fans on here now, read a post earlier where someone admitted he had got Allen all wrong after seeing him play for GB, he admitted that at first he slagged Allen off because he played for Swansea. That is the kind of uninformed fan that judges a player from what club he plays for rather than the talent he has, Ian Rush played for Chester before us, for those fly by night fans that follow us now, Ian Rush is one of the greatest strikers ever to have played the game.
McB


 

 

02 Aug 2012 11:10:57
Liverpool's downfall began with Americans and continues with Americans.
H & G - FSG.

Gateacre {Ed001's Note - how stupid must you be to think that? The downfall began long before Americans became involved, Moores is the architect of Liverpool's problems. FSG are the first first owners we have had with a sensible business plan for the club's long term future since the days of John Smith.}


What a load of crap. If I had spent 300m on a club I would hope that it is worth more when I sell it. The only way to do that is to have a successful team. And that is what they are doing, it just takes time. Look at spurs, Harry made a team that could compleat in 2 or 3 years. So why not BR and FSG. YNWA


Very well said Ed001. Some people are so blinkered. Why do some "fans" still give FSG a hard time? If it were'nt for them we would be doing a Portsmouth or heaven forbid a Rangers, we were that close to going under. I for one will be eternally grateful to FSG from saving us from that awful mess.

Danny.


Ed001, spot on in my opinion Liverpools downfall began with Dalglish (heresy I know) hopefully it will end with Dalglish.

Onward and Upward Reds.


Ed001, people like gateacre are clowns with silly little ideas, more to be pitied than laughed at. Just imagine how utterly dreary their lives must be. Sad sad little men. Ulsterpool


Sensible business plan?
For whom?
Sell the quality players and buy cheap ones !


FSG is too slow with plan and decision . may be just beacose they are new in football.


Agree with the previous response. All these 'they're only here to make a quick buck' comments are simply r*****ed and show a complete lack of financial understanding. The owners bought the club slightly cheap, agreed, but have since piled money in at the rate of a million a week to cover the losses the club is making. The only way their asset will make any sort of profit on a sale is if they make it successful first.


I'm still waiting for the Scouser bazillionaire who loves the club and is willing to pile heaps of money into it with no hope or concern of a return on that investment to materialize. I've come to the conclusion that is the only owner some on here would find acceptable.

I'd suggest you start looking for your dream owner now and have them offer FSG ~£600M. Should do the trick.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 09:48:01
ANDY CARROLL'S Liverpool FC future remains shrouded in mystery after he was withdrawn from the Reds' Europa League squad today.

A news article on 2012-08-02 07:00:00 from: Liverpool Echo

eds} any truth in this please..


 

 

02 Aug 2012 13:24:45
Not about LFC but Newcastle just signed Curtis Good any one know much about him? Is he any good (ha ha)?


Very hot prospect and looked very good last night ,defo one for the future.


Hope he is the bad one :)


 

 

02 Aug 2012 13:24:33

Hi Eds...
Just a question does anybody think like i do suarez needs to lose about a stone to get back to the weight he was when he joined is it the english food he dosent seem as nippy as he was.Tommy irish Red


It is pre season for him.
derryred


Looks like he's been on the protein shakes to me

cozinoz


 

 

02 Aug 2012 13:16:12
I am not having a go at Ramirez but on last night's performance he wouldn't get a game for our reserves .

Can any of you guys who see him regularly give me a clue what all the fuss is about . I am sure he must have played better than that on occasion , if so , what are his strengths . Genuine request .


You are having a rant and dont judge a player over 3 games come on liverpool fans must be more intelligent he is class


Ed022 did a player profile on him. you should check it out. it gives you a good idea of what he is like.
derryred


The first poster asked what the players strengths were , no-one has suggested any yet , surely Ramirez must be good at something !

All I can say is that I have seen him described as a winger but he spent more time on the edge of his own box last night than any where near the wing .


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:58:08
is Reina back in training yet? all the other spanish boys seem to be back with their clubs or os pepe getting extra time off due to his efforts in the euro's?

thanks MR1989


Haha. He must be knackered.

Benny baller


Yes given extra time off for celebrating too much : )


Reina has played his last game for the club , which suits him fine .

Hopefully he is ashamed of some of his performances last season .


Well said mate..


I'm ashamed of you, you clown


I've seen a lot of players work their ticket out of the club over the years but Reina has got it down to a fine art !


I don't know about fine art , the fact that he often made no attempt to save shots last season gave the game away .

Does anyone remember Clemence or Dudek or even Grobbelaar throwing in the towell like that ?


Don't know how you can say that about a man that saved so many and stuck through the club through thick and thin! Last season wasn't his best but I remember him making a save again Lukaku and going absolutely crazy that he saved it! Everyone has a dip in form but class is permanent! What ever happened to 'you'll never walk alone'?? The philosophy the club was built on and here you all slating probably the best goal keeper in the premiership for the last 5 years! Seems to me you all forgot how many golden gloves this guy has won! Seriously getting to the point now I'm ashamed to call myself a Liverpool fan with all you kids writing posts like that!

RR!


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:54:04
I think the player on loan could be someone like tevez?

He aint compleatly happy at the club and neither is the club for that matter and if van p decideds his future is as city the he will be pushed to the bench which is a possition he does not like.

Thoughts?

Sinstar


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:49:47
A friend staying in the same hotel as Team GB in Cardiff last night spoke with Bellamy briefly. Bellamy said he is staying at Liverpool to help the young players.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:49:31
Hi Eds! Are there any players who is near of signing for the club aside of Allen? {Ed019's Note - There is interest in Dempsey and Amorbieta}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:45:25
Like it or not this is what will happen. Skrtel to City, £5 million plus Adam Johnson, Agger to Barca - £15 million plus Christian Tello, with the money we will be purchaisng Amorebieta. 2 options on the other CB but unconfirmed targets at present. Still looking for big name striker though. CANARY


Neither of the above are going to happen.


Big Name striker is Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink


Nice! Most won't get that joke but it was class.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:43:33
Hi Ed. I have noticed the post where you explain why you will believe that Agger will stay and Skertle will leave, but from what I can make out skertle has traveled to Belarus and will most likely start tonight next to Charragher, but Agger appears not to have traveled. Can you please shed some light on the situation for me? Many thanks in advance for the response {Ed019's Note - Agger is injured}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:29:25
Personally I wil be happy with Joe Allen. He is a good player already who keeps the ball well.

Borini I am happy with also as I see him getting double figurs for goals next season

Dempsey will be a good squad player aswell so not to sad if he is signed, lthough i will be if he is signed as our main repalacement for carroll..

those 3 players will cost around 30m. If we recoup around 20-25 from sales as expected, then it would leave 15m to bring in one top player, who is a match winner.

Someone like an Adrian Lopez from Atletico Madrid would be good, or a loic remy from marseilles


I doubt borini will make double figures this year but maybe in the future. you are all forgetting he is making the jump from the italian league to the premiership and is still young. dempsey will be more than a squad player for us as well. i hope we don't get adrian lopez or loic remy.
derryred


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:28:51
Liverpool will sign hardly anyone,they cannot attract decent players.Anyone that says suarez is world class needs their head examined.How many goals did he score last season,not exactly prolific is he.He is the worst role model just like john terry.They are an embarrassment to the premier league.


What an person, why even post this pile of steaming Man Utd? Clearly a person lacking in the mental facilities area, bless his wee bum


Dude..u are seriosuly lost...and u need immediate treatment...i hope he saw the same EPL as we do?


Shut the *ell up with your pathetic dribble. You don't just judge a player on goals, it's their overall contribution to the team!


Suppose rooney bangin 50yr olds for money is your perfect role model eh? back under your rock!


Just say hyperthetically that Suarez didnt score a single goal this coming season, however set up 3 goals EVERY game, would you be saying that then? Goals arnt everything, its the overall contribution to the team!


Steaming Man Utd? That's brilliant sir, and very very apt
Milamber


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:27:11
Pelican Crossing - A Green Man changing to a Red Man? As in the kit colours? Maybe someone from Celtic or something?

S'all I can think of.

BthekingB


Athletic Bilbao played in green and red last season?


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:25:51
Hi Eds, great site.

If i.e. Skrtel & Agger appears in tonights game, does that mean they can't play for another team in Europa league or Champions league?

My hopes is that the following happens in the squad before the window slams.
Am I to coloured or is it possble?

Ins. : Allen, Affelay, Sturridge, Higuain (loan).

Out : Aquilani, Carroll, Bellamy, Adam {Ed019's Note - Europa League, I think they can still play in the CL}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:25:43
What is the situation with kovecic of shaktah donetsk? He looks to be one of the worlds best players in 5-8 years time! I think he would be a great signing!


Don't you mean of Dinamo Zagreb?

Corvin


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:23:18
any news on theo walcott? has had him on 1/1 for the last few weeks... {Ed019's Note - no}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:21:55
Eds, not much banter today so.......carroll back to newcastle and torress back to liverpool on loan. Before i get smashed on here, guarantee all would be forgiven if he started bangin them in for us again. what you think haha

JOZLFC


And WHY would he start banging them in?
He hasn't for Chelsea and the less said about his last season at Liverpool the better

Puzzled


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:18:12
Hello eds and reds was just wonderinh what the situation is with doni and jones are they both likely to leave? i remember some time ago jones was meant to leae because of a family tragedy. and ther was talk of doni going back to brazil if these both happen wont that leave us with 2 senior keepers would we be likely to promote a youngster or buy a keeper such as the young gb keeper or maybe even an experienced backup? cheers and great job with the site eds CRAIG


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:16:19
People need to stop replying 3 times getting really annoying!

Lil Red


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:14:38
before we start slating Gaston Ramirez lets not judge him on this tournament. Apart from Suarez they didn't seem like they wanted to be there. Judging by those games I would rate cavani as a 5m player instead of 40m, but we all know he's quality. Ramirez did show a few touches of quality like cavani.

Also somebody should tell cavani and Ramirez that you don't start following your captains example to actually try with 10 minutes left. If they had tried Uruguay could have destroyed GB, Allen also showed why he is rated so highly.

P.S very, very disappointing how GB booed the Uruguayan national anthem, complete lack of respect.

Lil Red


I don't think they were booing the whole anthem, just when Suarez came on the big screen, might be wrong though

Red Ollie


 

 

02 Aug 2012 12:07:27
I said a while back that we were in talks with Chelsea over a loan deal for lukaku...can't give a time period as we are still negotiating the % of wages that are going to be paid


 

 

02 Aug 2012 11:56:28
If we did get amorbeita wouldn't it take too long for him to settle in??


 

 

01 Aug 2012 19:31:17
Good luck ED019 FOR THE mkbcc10 ;)
Ruben {Ed019's Note - Thanks man, but I certainly don't expect to win, I just wanted to be part of it and see what happens ;)}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 11:17:19
Can anyone please tell me what channel is showing the Liverpool game tonight... thanks {Ed049's Note - Dude scroll for the posts on the banter page you'll get your answer, anyway Premier Sports}


What channel? they are actually showing that on tv,ha,they would have to pay me to watch that c**p.


Oh wish I had been paid to read your reply, it was painfully crap


 

 

02 Aug 2012 10:43:10
In my opinion I think lfc will sign Dempsey Allen amorbiata Ramirez and mystery loan player by the end of the window. I think outs will be the obvious plus carrol and one of the cbs and probably Charlie Adam too.


Thanks for the insight.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 10:45:08
We need to hijack cazorla away from arsenal, he is a quality player, you know gooners want him on the cheap, and with malagas financial situation money talks on this one, £20m and he's ours.


Not if he wants to play for Asenal and not Liverpool he isn't. Jeez, why do people think it's football manager, these are real people who make their own decisions and actually have a say in who they play for.


Cazirla is not good. He performs occasionally but is not good enough for Liverpool Football club.


Who is Carzila? {Ed002's Note - Carzila is the nickname of the Nissan Micra used by the Liverpool scouts.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 10:28:45
I haven't slagged off Allen once so I can say this...sign him up now!! He tore apart Uruguay last night, he was excellent he truthfully shown why top teams are after him


He had a good game yesterday...so whats ur point?..we sign him and for warming bench?
or else we need to play lucas and allen together in the middle..
with gerrard suarez and dempsy infront..and an out an out striker up front..
4-2-3-1..
i dont think BR will do this formation..


 

 

02 Aug 2012 10:27:31
drenthe on a free. cant go wrong


Drenthe was awful for everton last year why would you want him?


That could go very very wrong.


We certainly can with his attitude


Drenthe is loco crazy! Nuts..... Would be far more trouble than he is worth. Hence he is available on Free.

Dirks Engine Room


Glad you aint the manager


Degan couldn't go wrong, neither could cole, but oh boy. all drenthe will be is an extra wage to pay.
derryred


 

 

02 Aug 2012 10:31:06
Shame on GB fans. They where not just noicy against Suarez, but also when Uruguay sang their anthem. You can look at the calm danish roligans whom has a repetition of being well manered.
DanielDenmark


Think you have chosen the wrong site for this post..go on the utd page and all the other teams who have jumped on their bandwagon and look for a response. Guarantee not 1 liverpool supported was involved in that last night.

JOZLFC


No they didn't I was there, we all applauded them, don't believe everything you read, the only time they booed was when Suarez was shown


I was at the game, the anthem wasn't jeered it was Suarez who was being booed when he came onto the screen in the line up. In fact the anthem got a round of applause at the end but I guess it's easier to believe what the papers say.


Booing player is understandable but not the country. thats disrespect and it's shame that country like britain do that


 

 

02 Aug 2012 10:30:41
I think us Brits need to hang our heads in shame, to boo another nations anthem is out of order. No media jumping on this...


To right thats bang out of order..no manners


I bet if it was the other way round it would be in the papers.


The fans only booed when suarez was shown up close on the big screen....but i agree, the timing was shameful


The anthem never got booed, the only time people did was when Suarez was shown, I was there, everyone applauded after it


I'm not condoling this as i think its wrong but they were booing Suarez not the anthem, every time the camera went on him its displayed on the big screens in the ground.

Paul the red


If that happened to GB then the whole media would be all over that.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 10:27:51
Can any of the eds tell me what website is best to watch the liverpool game on tonight? Gonna give it ago because am on babysitting duties.. cheers

woozlfc28 {Ed049's Note - firstrowsports.eu}


Ronaldo7 also good site less traffic.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 10:24:51
Where can I watch the game tonight? Is it on any TV channels? I have tried looking but can't see it on anywhere.


Im sure you can read so why dont you look down the page. For the ammount of time it took you to write the comment you would have found out already.


Setanta sports showing it {Ed019's Note - Premier Sports}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 10:12:21
its obvious who the loan player will be... gotta be gareth bale!

i would rather eat my own hat than see his weak, unhonest glass sillouhette of a man prance around anfield.

im hoping we dont loan anyone really, id rather buying for keeps, tho we dont want another aqualani. shame he has potetional, shame its with another team.

aussiepool tristan


Thats harsh on Gareth Bale.
Adam put him out for 3 months last time and that was a naughty tackle the other night as well.
I dont think Adam knows how to tackle to be honest... clumsy is the word which springs to mind....
Having said that, to see Bale play in the next friendly makes him look like a proper mef as well. Bale = overrated drama queen. Adam = not good enough, crap at tackling.
jonnybarnes89-90


 

 

02 Aug 2012 10:06:33
Ideal summer of transfers (realistic ones!)

GK- Reina/Butland
RB- Johnson/Flanagan
LB- Enrique/Robinson
CB- Amorebieta/Kelly
CB- Agger/Coates/Carra

DM- Lucas/Wanyama
CM- Gerrard/Adam
CM- Hemderson/Cole

RF- Ramirez/Sterling
CF- Borini/Carroll
LF- Suarez/Downing

I wouldn't be fussed if a few of the second string was let go, we prob don't need 22 players!


Allen for cole and another forward and we will be laughing.
derryred


 

 

02 Aug 2012 09:58:54
Kenny Haung buying 15% of Inter and funding a new stadium - not a fraud after all then.
Can't believe we went with FSG and their failed promises. {Ed023's Note - So from a 15% stake he is funding a stadium? Of course he is..}


Ken Bates would be better then FSG


Brilliant - thats the most ridiclious thing i have ever read....If Kenny Huang is building a new stadium with just 15% ownership of the club then good luck to him, ed - you should set up a new section called ridclious post of the day and this one should win every day for the next 10 years.
Boozley
Boozley


What an person you really are


Sick of whingers like you , fsg havent failed on anything so far and we will get a redeveloped anfield or a new stadium once all is sorted with the council etc and i am eternally grateful to them for saving our club 2 days from being a rangers so b thankful to fsg if you truly support liverpool ..... steve


Cos I'm sure 15% of Inter costs the same as 100% of Liverpool.

Kids these days, eh?

- Something Red -


What a waste of the few seconds it took me to read the post...you are a clown


15% of Inter is no way comparable to buying LFC, clearing the debt & investing in players.


San siro is a big stadium why they want a new one ?


Christ, how big is that 15% stake??


Fsg haven't failed in their stadium promise. just because nothing is getting reported doesn't mean progress isn't being made.
derryred


 

 

02 Aug 2012 09:21:36
I think were all agreed by now that Aquillani is a very good player but his heart is not with us and he is going to leave, nothing we can do about that, can't kep blaiming Raffa because a good player wont settle, lets move on.
Big Andy looks like he is joining KK after last seasons lack of goals, I think it is a shame as I really believe he will score 20 odd this year, which is why a loan would be good.
So where does that leave us? well as the owners have recently pointed out, KK's future was sealed before the cup final, on the second half results we would have finished 17th. Well that goes to show as I have said on here before, at Christmas we were still up there with more than just a chance of 4th.
We lost Lucas and to be fair Adam, who had been getting an undertsanding going with henderson.
Gerrards return also changed the shape of the team a lot, and well to be honest it all went a bit erratic.
Now on here it was pretty unanimous that we needed a poacher, some cover for Lucas and a winger (we only had one in Downing).
so we have signed Borrini (the poacher) signing Allen (can cover for Lucas, although I see him slightly differrent and playing alongside him) and it looks like Dempsey (the winger, well can play wide) and Sterling is getting time.
We seem to be highlighting the areas were we were really short last season, yes it is a shame that Andy is going but hopefully we will get a replacement.
I am worried that we may yet lose some of our better players (suarez, Agger) but we will have to look at it if it happens.
I think we may be short at left back still, and I would like a signing that can make things happen up front, so lets see who we get in for Carrol. I dont want to take a loan player just to get him fit though, lets get the contract right for a change and have the option to buy.
Anway just a thought, take a step back and look at it, we were only poor for 6 months, and we are sorting out those positions we were short. Lets give it a chance.
RNred


I agree with everything you have said mate. I thought in the first 6 months of the season we more than held our own. I know we cannot keep bleating on about it but the chances we created, the times we hit woodwork and the penalties we missed.........at least we were playing at the right end of the park. I dont think last season was the doom and gloom that everyone painted. Yes the last couple of months were not good....but....


You realise you will not get far talking sense like that on this site don't you!

Thomas


How would you know Thomas? when have you ever spoken a word of sense?


May get slated but I don't rate Aqualani tbh he is jermaine jenas, Denison, just one out of twenty two players on the pitch he never stand out as good or bad for me therefore never good enough for lfc midfield. Don't blame Rafa just don't get why people support him... For example Henderson has shown more and gets more critism and less support


 

 

02 Aug 2012 09:18:05
What about lakuku on loan from chelsea? One no1 has mentioned...


Maybe there is a reason he's not been mentioned?

Danny


I feel that it's not the best idea to help train a rival player before sending him back to said rival club a lot better than when he arrived. I feel it makes little sense. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Tristan


Maybe there is a reason he's not been mentioned?

Danny


Maybe there is a reason he's not been mentioned?

Danny


I wonder why?


 

 

02 Aug 2012 09:08:58
Ed this is a quote on suarez last night plz post

Thursday 02 August 2012
Uruguay striker Luis Suarez has condemned abuse from the Millennium
Stadium crowd before his country's 1-0 defeat to Great Britain.
The Liverpool player was a target of many in the stadium during the match but said there was a "total lack of respect" when some spectators booed the Uruguayan national anthem.
He said he could handle flak but felt supporters went beyond what was acceptable.
Uruguay bowed out of the Olympic football tournament after a 1-0 defeat and Suarez said: "I think they jeer me and they boo me here because they must be scared of facing a player like me. They fear me, but that doesn't affect me.
"I'm hurt because we lost and we are going home. We all had a dream and that was to win the gold medal here.
"I can take the abuse. I don't mind. But I think it was a total lack of respect from the crowd to boo when we were trying to sing our national anthem. I think those things should not happen."

God I do love king suarez

Joel


He's totally right.
There was no need what so ever for their national anthem to be booed, it was disgraceful, no-ones anthem should ever be booed and those who did it have laid shame on the name of Great Britain.
This whole booing Suarez thing is getting a bit tiersum now. If it's totally to do with the whole racial thing its strange that a guy who comes from a mixed-race family and who's grandfather is black is getting treated like that, he must find it strange. But I don't think it's to do with that anymore, I think it's a bandwagon that people have jumped on because they fear him and what he can do against their team. Why are people in Cardiff booing him? Ok if he's getting booed at Old Trafford you'd kind of expect that but at Cardiff, it doesn't make sense and can only be put down to the fact that people are scared of him. Whatever has happened he wouldn't still be getting this kind of treatment if he was a rubbish player and wasn't a threat on who he's playing against. I don't think it bothers him, it's not going to make him leave or anything, infact on numerous occassions he's stated that it doesn't bother him and infact that he thrives on it! All he has to do is keep playing well and start banging in the goals regulary and they will soon shut up.
I think we should have a song in reply to the boos that goes 'Everyone boo whos scared of Suarez!'
He'll soon shut them up when the goals start going in.

YNWA

Mikehoopersgloves


It also looks ridiculous because those paragons Terry and Barton do NOT get booed off the park

Puzzled


What I find strange is how we judge things in this country.
Suarez is a pariah for "probably" abusing Evra and yet Evra who called Suarez's sister the equivalent of a prostitute is absolutely fine because thats ok in this country.
Compare Suarez to Ryan Giggs and their public image could not be more different and yet we all know who Giggs was BONKING but apparently thats absolutely fine in this country. Racism nooooooooo... Adultery yesssssssssssss
I suppose that if you are looking for skewered morals then football is the place to be!
jonnybarnes89-90


 

 

02 Aug 2012 09:03:59
Haha I love Ed002's reaction when people ask about the possibility of "sneaky" bids...

Muller


Hmm sneaky ehh


 

 

02 Aug 2012 08:49:49
Suarez unhappy at the reception he got during his teams defeat, This could be him telling us hes had enough, Eds and Reds, Your thoughts.....TJ. {Ed002's Note - You think it was another secret message?}


I think he's telling us Gaston Ramierez is about to join.

Tristan


Lol.... I hope its a message that states he is stronger than the boo boys, Personally, I think he is right to call those who disrespected their national anthem, But after all hes been through he should just forget and move on, I hope he stays. TJ.


TJ? Is that meant to be JT to defer some fo the flack?


What would of freaked me out is if Suarez would of said "Pelican" "Daleks" and "Stairs" I think my head would of popped.

Danny.


What do you mean after everything he as been through,he as brought everything upon himself everywere he as played he as caused trouble and when he does leave liverpool you will all say you are glad hes gone because he is nothing but trouble. 19


TJ? Is that meant to be JT to defer some fo the flack?


What would of freaked me out is if Suarez would of said "Pelican" "Daleks" and "Stairs" I think my head would of popped.

Danny.


TJ? Is that meant to be JT to defer some fo the flack?


What would of freaked me out is if Suarez would of said "Pelican" "Daleks" and "Stairs" I think my head would of popped.

Danny.


He thrives on the boos personally, he's said that many times, but it's going too far when their national anthem is getting booed and that's what he was unhappy about, and I don't blame him.
All it did was make Britain look bad.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 08:49:05
Can someone explain the big deal about Gaston Ramirez? Admittedly not seen much of the guy before the olympics apart from you tube (which can make anyone look good) but other than his free kick he looked poor to me! Lazy and went missing for the majority of the games, if thats worth £20 million then it makes Allens price tag look more respectable to me at least he grafts and keeps possession!


He's had a pretty average season at Bologna, I think some people think that because he is south american he most be some amazing player.
I don't think he works hard enough for BR style of game.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 08:38:56
I want to believe Ramirez was not on top of his game last night 'cos I didn't really see any form of creativity in his game. His most evident attribute is his ability to take good shots. But if that's what we are looking for then why did we sell Meireles? Was it just me or did u guys also see that Ramirez has got attitude problem also? Sincerely, if it was based on lastnight's match alone, I wud put my 15m on Allen than on Ramirez.

Djoe.


Wouldn't Ramirez be better suited for a wing player than Meireles? In the middle, we definitely need Allen more than we need Gaston or another Raul-like player. However, Gaston would be bought to act in the frontlines - something which Raul wanted to do, but never really got the chance.

Drigan


Totally agree mate! Other than his free kick he looked poor in open play, lazy and went missing not saying Allen is the answer but dont see how people can justify criticising Allen and raving about this guy based on the olympics!


I have always said that Liverfool will be lucky to get Allen... Going back on an agreement with Swansea, publicly stating you have signed Dempsey... what a way to do business and the fans dont even want them?? lol {Ed023's Note - Liverfool? What are you, 12?


I have always said that Liverfool will be lucky to get Allen... Going back on an agreement with Swansea, publicly stating you have signed Dempsey... what a way to do business and the fans dont even want them?? lol {Ed023's Note - Liverfool? What are you, 12?}


I have always said that Liverfool will be lucky to get Allen... Going back on an agreement with Swansea, publicly stating you have signed Dempsey... what a way to do business and the fans dont even want them?? lol {Ed023's Note - Liverfool? What are you, 12?}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 08:37:14
Any Truth in the rumour Tottenham being interested in buying Carroll Eds? Much Appreciated

Mike Lfc {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}


Are we short on posts today Ed? because several keep getting repeated

Puzzled {Ed019's Note - We are working on the issue}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 08:31:49
I'm not getting into the Ramirez/Allen, as they're both extremely talented in different ways. I've praised Allen for weeks now, as I've seen him play regularly and know he can make us tick and really control the game. Alongside Lucas, they'll make a formidable pair.

For Ramirez I just wanted to say I don't think we'll sign him. He's incredibly talented but sees very languid on the ball, doesn't seem to track anyone or press at all. Now I'm basing this on several things, the Olympics, some brief Bologna games and other posters who opinions I trust. I think given that Carroll may leave for him not being adaptable, then Ramirez may not fit BR's project.

Now I'm not for one minute questioning his talent, but personally I'd much rather have a fired up Clint Dempsey. He works his arse off, hounds defenders like Kuyt used to. Has a certain level of skill on the ball, but ultimately knows where the net is and has the ability to score with both feet and his head. He's very adaptable and can certainly handle himself, see he tussle with Bellamy last year.

If we sign just Allen and Dempsey with no departures then we're set. But in all likelihood a few will depart. Unfortunately Bellamy seems one of them, which is a shame as he's still such a talented player. He's got incredibly pace and desire at 33 and would in some ways be a good mentor to Sterling, as he knows when to stay wide and when to cut in etc. He'd also allow that extra 12 months for Sterling to develop and then step into his role when he departs.

If Allen signs and Jonjo doesn't live on loan then either Jay or Adam may go. Personally I'd keep Jay, as again it allows Some depth to the squad and gives Coady some time to develop and come through. It's tough to know how Lucas will perform for a while and Jay at least can tackle and plays quite well against certain oppositions.

Cole for me can go. He's a good lad and was a quality player for a few years, but injuries have taken their toll and he really needs to play most weeks to rediscover his form. He'd be a hero back at WHU and if they don't get Carroll then I could see him as a signing to appease the fans.

That leaves us with Downing, Suarez, Carroll, Borini, Dempsey and Pacheco to fit into 6. Carroll may well leave, but must be replaced. Cole may well stay and then Pacheco will leave.

I'm not discussing Agger/Skrtel as I hope they both stay and I see our defence as set, with Robinson and Kelly stepping up when required.

BR has said he wants four signings, which I would imagine are Allen, Dempsey, De Vries and a mystery loan? Now the loan is likely to be an attacker but I wouldn't dream of guessing exactly who. We do lack a creative player up top when Suarez doesn't play, so perhaps someone young from Latin America on loan with a view to a permanant? Who knows.

The squad on paper won't be that different to last year. It'll be a little refreshed, but ultimately it's about BR and what him and his coaching staff can make us produce. Personally I'm going to try and be very patient. It may be quite a tricky 12 months but if unlike last season where we start a little slow but get progressively stronger then I'll be happy.

Papa G


I agree Papa G, especially about Ramirez, I havent seen anything in the 3 games to suggest he would be that good in the prem, I never saw him take on or beat any player, again I know it was only the olympics, but I just expected alot more considering the massive calls form our fans on here to sign him!
John Wigan


Good post Papa, well put mate.....

STEVE

RED4LIFE


Good post. Unimpressed with Ramirez big time - too slow, clumsy type of player. I think if we want that no. 10 type of player, he should be in the Silva mould, small and mobile.


Very well put. cant say more than that, fingers crossed for the season ahead

SullyRed YNWA


We have our no.10 type of player in the likes of suso. He's ready to step up in my opinion and if he isn't given the chance he will move on, become world class and be another regret.


Players may have bad tournament. I still remember last year friendly against Valencia, where Downing was much better than Mata. Everyone posted that we had signed Downing who is much better.We might not followed Mata but the point is DO NOT JUDGE on 2 or 3 matches.
st
YNWA


I also agree.the fans that are callin for him have never even seen play before the olympics.i bet they didn even no wat he looked like.its just coz he is a foreign player and his name is ramirez.they watch him on youtube which would make any average player look good.

eire red


Like Suso?

Papa G


Very well put. cant say more than that, fingers crossed for the season ahead

SullyRed YNWA


We have our no.10 type of player in the likes of suso. He's ready to step up in my opinion and if he isn't given the chance he will move on, become world class and be another regret.


Very well put. cant say more than that, fingers crossed for the season ahead

SullyRed YNWA


We have our no.10 type of player in the likes of suso. He's ready to step up in my opinion and if he isn't given the chance he will move on, become world class and be another regret.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 08:18:31
Watching Uruguay play it is clear who play in Italy and those elsewhere. The work rate of the Italian based players was much lower than Suarez for example, Ramirez will have to raise his work rate to play in the Premier League.

Voodoored


I always think this about Italian players! Look at Dossena, they can't keep up with the pace of the English game... at least Borini knows what he's in for.


I always think this about Italian players! Look at Dossena, they can't keep up with the pace of the English game... at least Borini knows what he's in for.


I always think this about Italian players! Look at Dossena, they can't keep up with the pace of the English game... at least Borini knows what he's in for.


True...I mean, Zola was rubbish, as was Vialli and Di Matteo. I remember Ravanelli, he was awful too. Balotelli certainly looks off the pace (when his head is right) so you're clearly right about italians....you CLOWN


 

 

02 Aug 2012 08:17:46
Carroll, Agger and Skrtel will not be going anywhere this season, they are all happy.
Ins: Outs:
Allen. Bellamy (Cardiff)
Ramirez Aquallani (Fiorentina)
Dempsey. Jones (Birmingham
Butland Adam/shelvey (Swansea/Loan)
Butland


We gonna sign 2 Butland? i guess 2 butts are better than 1!

Finesse - Seychelles


 

 

02 Aug 2012 08:16:56
Heard game not on first row sports and I not got premier. Any ideas what other sites I can Watch it on. Cheers
Tommy


Vipbox.tv
Mike


It on setanta


Its listed on first row this morning ...so fingers crossed


Wiziwig or Tune2sports.


Lol you can probably watch Japanese third division on First Row, I'm the LFC game will be on there!


 

 

02 Aug 2012 08:11:55
I want to categorically say that Joe Allen will be a success at Liverpool. The guy is a midfield genius. A Xavi-Lampard in the making. We must not miss out on him, I don't care if it means paying 15m. Mark my words, WE WILL NOT REGRET IT.

Djoe.


I will mark you words in the tablets of stone

But b'ware if you are lying the burning bush will be P*ssed.


I hadn't seen much of the lad but because he played for Swansea I slaughtered him and said he wasn't good enough. How wrong was I as he is definately a big club player as he keeps the ball and is never afraid to get on it no matter where he is.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 08:09:15
Question for ed001 and ed002 - why do you have conflicting views on Agger? Ed001 says he thinks he will stay, Ed002 says expect him to move on..? PK {Ed002's Note - I could change my mind if you want.}


Ah Ed002 that reminds me of the old joke you can have any opinion as long as its the one I agree with


I don't want you to change your mind, I'd just like to know why the views of two editors are opposing, with one thinking it will be skrtel to go and the other agger. At least Ed001 has given his view on why he expects agger to stay. PK


I think rodgers is taking a big gamble getting rid of carrol so cheaply without giving him at least a chance could backfire big style


The reason they have conflicting views on agger is because one ed thinks he will stay and the other thinks he will go.


Ed002 thinks all our best players are leaving.

You have to remember she is not a liverpool fan so her opinions are based on wishful thinkin as opposed to logic and reason.

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Agger or Suarez want to leave or that we want to ship them out yet Ed002 spouts constantly that they could potentially leave.

Doesnt make sense. And then when Agger and Suarez end up staying Ed will say "well anything can happen in football, things change all the time" to save face.

Foolish woman. {Ed002's Note - Why do you constantly write all this nonsense about me given my being far more accurate than anyone else that has probided an opinion here? Yet you grizzle and whine and generally make yourself look so stupid. You abused me over Carroll and over Dalglish. Suck it up and try not to embarrass the Liverpool fans.}


Previous poster is a numtpy, Ed002, please ignore them.

A follow up question for both Ed001 and Ed002, if I may. I think you are both rather more well connected than I and each independently have solid basis for why you may believe what you do.

Bigger question for me- given what you both have some insight on, do you see a situation where both Agger and Skrtel could leave? Or would you say it's likely a one or the other sort of thing?

Appreciate all of the insight all the Eds provide!

RDL {Ed002's Note - There is interest in Agger from Manchester City and Barcelona. Skrtel stated in an interview that their had been offers made from him but he did not give details. Certainly I could name a couple of clubs who have at least considered him.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 08:08:23
I was in aggers bar with me girlfriend Monday night and Agger wasn't there??
NGIBO


That is such a lie as we all know you don't have a girlfriend.


He does , i was with her ! ant


 

 

02 Aug 2012 07:55:44
BR has expressed interest in Micah Richards. Any deal including skrtel will involve Micah coming in the opposite direction. Bobthagob


 

 

02 Aug 2012 07:53:04
No sign of Pepe Reina training with the lads in Gomel. In fact has he even returned to training at all yet. Hope this is not a sign he could be leaving!!


Hope he goes

His heart not in it anymore too many disappointments

Reina needs a fresh start both for him and LFC

Watching the ball going threough his less countless times last year and seeing how easily he can be beaten at the near post tells a story


Let him go i say, hes past his best and his heart is clearly not with liverpool


Some people live on very strange planets.

Reina conceded a couple of soft goals last season because he was trying to second guess what the striker was going to do and got it wrong. He's spent most of the last 6 years doing that and getting it right, and no one complained. It's just his way. But no keeper alive is going to get it right all the time. He's not out of form.

- Something Red -


The was only back from holiday yesterday, so thats why he isn't there, get a grip people


 

 

02 Aug 2012 07:51:22
mornin eds, do u think were going to sign anyone before the end of the week? cheers.... {Ed002's Note - It depends when your week ends. Saturday or Sunday?}


Sunday?? lol


Everyone knows the first day of a new week commences on Sunday {Ed002's Note - I rather think there is a significant number of folks who for whatever reason are of a religious bent and take the view as recorded in the Bible that Sunday is the seventh day of the week.}


I classify Sunday as the weekend and Monday the start of a new week.


I classify Sunday as the weekend and Monday the start of a new week.


I classify Sunday as the weekend and Monday the start of a new week.


The bible states Sunday was the 1st day of the week. So if you follow it then the week ends on Saturday.


It's the first day of the week for Jews and the second day for Muslims.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 05:12:34
coates and allen having a fall out on the pitch in todays game... it was all coates though but it wouldnt effect the team if the 2 cant get on anyway coates will be a sub at best so will no his place an shut his mouth or move on ... or they will be best mate haha orrrr alan will end up at spurs like most liverpool targets do


But Allen was playing for GB and Coates was playing for Uruguay at the time. It was meaningless and both players have probably forgotten about it now.


 

 

02 Aug 2012 03:32:17
Hi EDs, just one quick question, if you have an idea, where is Ramirez most likely to end up? Surely the Suarez-Coates connection would help on his decision? Thanks in advance {Ed002's Note - I have given my all explaining the situation with Ramirez and explaining who is interested.}


Ok, thanks!:D


 

 

02 Aug 2012 03:31:07
atleast someone came out and said it. meanwhile man city gonna scoop up rameirez another 1 we could have had


 

 

02 Aug 2012 03:12:54
Someone from Malaga joining us(?)


Salomon Rondon 22 year old Venezuelian striker plays for Malaga. There have strong rumours that we are interested. Not saying we will sign him though. Redevon


Could Isco be the loan player? Hes only 19, is made for Rodgers' style and we would pay his wages whilst Malaga are in a financial crisis and can't pay anyone's wages!


Agree about Isco barring his actually 20 years old. Juanmi 19 years old another good young attacking player from Malaga. Redevon


 

 

02 Aug 2012 02:53:47
Not a rumour but still posting.

Eds, do you think Carroll will be with us next season? If you ask me he's much better than Demba Ba, each club he's been at hes had goal spikes. Look, at the start of the season Ba was unstoppable but when a better player partnered with him, he never stood out one bit. Don't even think he scored after the Cup of Nations. Also, looking at his injury troubles in the past could come back and haunt him.
Carroll on the other hand has always been consistent and works hard wherever he's at, he may not be a "goal machine" but atleast he works hard when he loses possesion and he needs more time to settle in to Liverpool if you ask me.

#Sam {Ed002's Note - I don't think he will Sam.}


Carroll better than Ba? Only at defending corners. Ba was banging them in for fun till he was played out wide. How much more time do we give for Carroll to prove he isn't censored? Redevon


Carrol is far better than ba but I would take Ben arfa.


Carrol is far better than ba but I would take Ben arfa.


Carrol is far better than ba but I would take Ben arfa.


The reason he stopped scoring was he was played out of position


Fact 2010-2012 Ba played 53 league games and scored 29 goals. Carroll played 61 league games and scored 17 goals. Explain why Ba isn't the better striker? Redevon


 

 

02 Aug 2012 00:44:52
hello eds. wondering if theres been any word on who failed to impress BR on the tour and any word on who did impress him. thanks as always
cheers {Ed002's Note - Nothing, sorry.}


 

 

01 Aug 2012 23:54:04
I've only just notice te cryptic pelican and Dalek clues, I have no idea!
Pelicans have massive beaks so we must be looking for a player with a big nose lol

Has anyone guessed correctly eds?
Ashy


Phil Thompson?

Puzzled


 

 

01 Aug 2012 21:54:38
Just watched the game tonight - GBR vs Uraguay - and I was very pleased with the way some players played.

I thought Joe Allen is a real threat going forward and along with the grit and determination against anyone he would be a brilliant addition to our squad. How close it the deal?

Also from Uraguay Gaston Ramirez was one o the standout players from the team. He too was very creative and pulled off some quality efforts at goal. Any more progress from Liverpol or anyone?

Agree or Disagree - but I think if Reina go's then Jack Butland would be a good replacement. Although Hugo Lloris maybe a preferred choice but a little expensive Butland is young, cheap and will be one of the best on the world! Would either be an option?

On another note - Luis Suarez was very impressive tonight. Maybe didn't Score many of his chances but he created them and ha a great undertanding with Ramirez. Suarez's determination was also fantasti and looks good for the new season!

Cheers for the solid work and thanks for the time!
( a special thanks to ED002:) )


I have watched an awful lot of Ramirez and rate him highly but he was shocking tonight. Suarez wasn't great either but tried hard and was probably the best of a bad bunch. I agree with your point on reina moving on though as but land is quality.


 

 

01 Aug 2012 21:41:22
With Uraguay out. Hopefully we might get confirmation on Suarez and maybe even a sneaky Ramirez bid?? Do you think there could be any move now Eds?
DaveH {Ed002's Note - Something sneaky you think?}


Out of curiosity how do you make a 'sneaky' bid. {Ed023's Note - You have to hire James Bond first, then...}


Out of curiosity how do you make a 'sneaky' bid. {Ed023's Note - You have to hire James Bond first, then...}


Out of curiosity how do you make a 'sneaky' bid. {Ed023's Note - You have to hire James Bond first, then...}


Ed002 he meant a sneaky bar. yes he like chocolate.

i trust BR and whoever he bring in, i will 138% behind them.

Finesse - Seychelles


 

 

01 Aug 2012 19:47:51
eds all reds this dalek pelican thing is doing my head in!! ed02 , when are you going to put us out of our misery!! lol! andy carroll to spurs? is it a goer? wouldnt suprise me. didnt they bid , 27 million i think , when we signed him? agger to barca? you said you think he ll leave, ambereto in instead. all youve said makes sense. would you like to say who you think the " loan" signing may be please? ive said before our team could be just tweaked or it ciould be a major overhaul not much in between, what do you think? godbless 96 all reds. steviep62. {Ed002's Note - I suggested a while back that Spurs could rekindle interest in Carroll - particularly given the status of the move for Adebayor. Amorebieta is certainly in the wings if a centre back is needed. As for the loan, I have nothing on it.}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 04:56:00
Alright Ed's, is there anything in the Higuain rumours? {Ed049's Note - No}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 05:01:41
THIS IS SUCH A JOKE...

dont know why? we are selling aquilani.? at just 7min?

luka modric 40miln n alberto aquilani 7miln?

how we have treated this guy is real poor. loaning him to italian teams with a hope of permanently getting him off. thats what we are doing.

im not saying he is world beater but no liverpool midfielder at the moment has , flair, vision n 1 touch pass ability ...like aquilani has.
even if his heart is in Italy. just play him, make him play for at least one season?(like modric)

as it is clear that we want to sell him ,thats y clubs rate him 5miln?7miln?
more than that a player like aqua should be made to stick with us play him, give more money what ever

spending 20miln on hendo, 10miln adams, 20miln downing, now 12 miln for allan, 20miln ramirez(if we do sign them). and every one of us know aquilani is better then all of them. then we say we have no flair ,creativity. lol


Have you been hiding under a rock or just more troll nonsense?

Anyway, moving on.

The Squirrel


7m? More like 3m at best ! The guy does not want to play for us. He and his agent have aided and abetted italian clubs to take the p### out of lfc in the last couple of seasons. All this crap about him wanting to stay this season by his agent is his last shot at squeezing a few dollars more out of fsg before he finally leaves. If 3 successive managers don't want him near the club what does that tell you ? Good riddance.


Did it ever occur to you that Aquilani may not actually want to play for us?


Haven't you answered your own question? Aquilani is nowhere near good enough, on a wage that suggests he is a PL maestro when that simply isn't the case. In the pre-season friendlies I found him largely ineffective and didn't try hard enough. Why would we want to keep someone who isn't wanting to be here (he can say he's happy but personally I think it's rubbish) and who is on a HUGE amount when we're trying to trim the wage bill, instead of selling him, cutting our losses and showing someone who will play with pure enthusiasm and determination i.e. Allen?

JP.


You see...all you smart a** out ther...you are not getting the point.

every one says he does not want to play?
that is bull s***..the season which he was brought injured ..when he did actually started playing..the last few weeks of the season 2010..the guy had 2 goals n 4 assists . in some 10-8 matches. (the feat guys like spearing ,hendo, downing will take years. i thing.lol). this guys has a lot in him talent wise.

ITS NOT HIM WHO STARTED IT. the great mr. voy hodgson ..loaned him, then came kks british team philosophy. he is just a victim of the managerial changes that happened through last few years. hodgson thought paulsen was better than him, kk thought spearing . thats a joke.

and for those who say THIS PLAYER DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY...and all .cut it. if modric can play at spuds,tevez at city,fab at arsenal...(there are millions of situations arrived like this before for many clubs. )then why cant aquilani at liverpool. you say he doesnt want to play for us, BUT DO WE WANT HIM? NO. last 3 years liverpools midfield has shown no creativity..this is the poorest midfield we have had ever(with SG INJURED) still we send a player like aquallani on loan? he can play for the likes of AC MILAN, juventas n considered not fit for our current midfield? ( if tomorrow, guy like reina,agger,suarez says he want to leave....wont their be any effort to stop him? to lure him back? what effort have we shown in aquallani? NOTHING. paulsen ,spearing...now allan? aqualani is much better than that. )
the point is not whos fault it is, its whats the better liverpool can get out of the situation.
its is 10 times better than playing spearing, or forcing jonjo/hendo in without naturally allowing them to grow.(which they can).

technically we dont have a player like aquilani. nor we have any replacement . RB is doing the same allan in, aqua out. again the same thing is happening. guy like allan will get thrown under the sword..under the pressure he may have never seen. n if he fails to adapt quickly .BANG HE IS A FAILURE.

.and it costs liverpool more ..that it wil for allan .


 

 

02 Aug 2012 04:14:21
if Ramirez and Cavani is suddenly rubbish from the Olympics then Carroll is a £50m+ player judging by the Euro's


 

 

02 Aug 2012 04:07:06
to be honest having watched all the games of teamgb and uruguay based on their performances ramirez is overhyped crap at best and allen does the exact samething lucas does and hence is not really needed as lucas is better than him at it

flumoxed

tom1975


Youre judging Ramirez on one tournament which he didn't play badly in. So enough posting crap mate and as for Allen, what if Lucas gets injured or suspended? Glad you're not manager... Another dilusional fan...
YNWA
JS


It is very common for footballers returning from long-term injuries to pick up other niggling injuries. Remember last season when Lucas got injured our form plummeted and we were all crying out for a new holding midfielder in January.

Surely having back-up in the squad is a good thing?

JRG


 

 

02 Aug 2012 03:57:15
Ed002 is my favourite Ed :D .. how old is she?

Cheers

Sam {Ed049's Note - Too old to be you mom.lol}


 

 

01 Aug 2012 18:54:46
Eds any chance that we could get Jovetic. With Aqualani looking to be going to Florentina could we get him or am i just talking nonsence. THE TRUTH {Ed049's Note - Highly Unlikely}


 

 

02 Aug 2012 01:38:37
If I was any player playing in the Olympics I would be very reluctant to move to the premier league if I heard that constant booing of Suarez it is disgraceful


 

 

02 Aug 2012 01:06:55
now those guys who were calling Allen crap all of a sudden is quality.
And after 1 game Ramirez is now crap.


F5


 

 

02 Aug 2012 00:43:07
Wow, a week ago it was:

"I don't want to be signing average signings such as Allen and Dempsey. I want Liverpool to be going for quality players such as Ramirez"

Tonight:

"Wow, that Ramirez lad is poor and I don't want him anywhere near LFC. As for Joe Allen though, what a player. Brendan; sign him up now!"

sigh...


Just wait for the brazil game, people will hate Allen and suggest we pay the world for Tottenhams Sandro.

Red Raw


Or we could have tried to sign Oscar or Ganso perhaps..lol

Red PG


 

 

02 Aug 2012 00:36:08
I hoped we would buy Joe Allen before the Olympics. Check my posts...I've been a massive fan. His value goes up every game and Liverpool's famously slow approach to transfers will probably bite them on the arse agaian. Sign Allen, Dempsey and Ramirez. Sell the likes of Aquilani, Spearing, Downing, Adam and Ecclestone and move on.
Sorry to sound impatient but it's Summer, there's nothing on telly and every week that goes by without football makes me want to kill my wife.
Sorry to sound negative but that's how I feel....we walked down the aisle to "What Kind Of Fool Am I?" and we've spoken less than a hundred words since. She thinks the fire alarm's a cooking timer!
She burns water!
Okay, I'm going off subject here........My wife's not to blame. I've always supported our owners and staff. I'm just growing a little impatient.
I'd just hate it if we lost out to Tottenham for our targets...Joe Allen is the next Ronnie Whelan and Clint Dempsey is also awesome.
Let's just get these players signed.
My missus get's back from cookery classes in ten minutes and I need to have a wipe round.
So I'll just finish by saying I really can't wait for the season to start.....seriously. I'm actually crying.
Come on you mighty Reds!
ANFIELDPETE


No football on t.v? So you haven't watched the European Championships, the football at the Olympics or pre-season friendlies then??


No !

Puzzled


ANFIELDPETE, great post.
derryred


 

 

02 aug 2012 00:23:33
we need to stop comparin
henderson to allen they are different they have some of the same qualities yes they are both
both are quick
good passers (even though some think its side ways rememba keepin the ball counts more than runnin afta it!)
but henderson is someone who gets foward alot allen looks like to me someone who likes to sit back n tackle get stuck in like lucas now some may say well we got lucas but wat if he was to get injured?
as 4 shevely the kid looks class on the ball
adam not so sure good squad player and spearing has heart but think hes got alot to prove

basy


In all honesty i think lucas will be a better box-to-box midfielder.
derryred


 

 

02 Aug 2012 00:14:47
have to love how one good game from allen changes the opinion of a vast number of people about him. anyone with sense would've wanted us to sign him after the great season he had. i actually feel sorry for swansea now, they are starting to get foiled by their own success.
on the other hand ramirez is still a great player, he just had a poor match tonight.
derryred


 

 

02 Aug 2012 00:12:58
anybody know the official squad for gomel? I know carroll hasn't travelled and the one on ssn seems wrong


 

 

02 Aug 2012 00:11:04
First things first, this is my opinion. I dont have any source to say this is even possible.

The way I see it is if Madrid get Modric, Then Kaka (who already sits on the bench) would be avaliable for loan.

Also if Madric get Cavani then Higuani (who also sits on the bench) almost defibtley is avalible as they play with 1 Striker.

David Villa seems unlikely as Barca would weaken there team by doing this.

Milan might have Pato avaliable, but know that Imbra is gone it just seems less likely as there team have weaken greatly already.

Other options like Tevez or any EPL team I would think is out of the question as we are in the same league and will be fight for top 4.

End of the day I could be cpmpletely wrong or the deal may fall through so yeah..

Fifa King


You know this is an English site


 

 

02 Aug 2012 00:11:00
So the player every liverpool fan has been cryin out for br to sign in gaston ramirez has one average game n allen the man i rate n has been widely criticised by alot of fans on here has one very good game, where he ran that midfield tonight n now its ramirez is rubbish n get allen signed up now! Come on guys! These guys are two amazing talents in there own right! Both could give so much to our club! If br signs either one of these or both i will be delighted! Im sure br will make the right decisions in this transfer window!
HARDY1892 YNWA


 

 

02 Aug 2012 00:02:03
Might just be me but I can't see Agger in the Belarus training pics? He might just have been in the toilet or dodging photos! But I was just a little concerned, hope some of you have better eyesight than I do


 

 

01 Aug 2012 23:57:42
hi can anyone tell me what site to use to stream liverpool's match tomorrow please. thanks
Jay


Wiziwig or sportlemon always work for me mate

cozinoz


 

 

01 Aug 2012 23:51:19
Just imagine a midfield trio of Lucas, Allen and Hendo in a few years, all players BR would love, and predominantly british, and thats without taking Jonjo, Coady etc into account. Give BR time to build how he wants, and get behind ALL the players, we have the best support in the world, recently ive seen some "fans" get on players backs a lot - Adam, Spearing etc - but whilst they wear the Liverpool shirt, a true fan should support the players, regardless of ability, as long as they have the desire to do the best they can for LFC.


That trying your hardest speech is for mothers sneakily turning their kids attention from competition (because they don't want to deal with the disappointment that their kids feel when they loose or told they are not good enough) to casual fun.


So kuyt was there for casual fun.


 

 

01 Aug 2012 23:50:12
Allen is overrated and too small in stature to impose himself on games against the top premier league teams. We really should be looking too attract better quality players rather than mediocre ones. Unless we start buying world class talent we will never again challenge for th title. Sad but true. {Ed001's Note - he is the same height as Xavi, I don't remember him struggling to impose himself! Ludicrous comment from the Stuart Pearce/Fat Scam school of management.}


Lucas is not big either, but on the field, he is BIG.

Kaizer


Xavi is more powerfully built than allen and a million times better with the ball

for team gb allen sits there doing what lucas doesfor liverpool but not actually aswell as lucas does it. not sure why he is needed to be honest


Youd be surprised how tiny Souness is and he was a man mountain on the pitch, feared by everyone

Tel 1949


Except Smith & Case


Allen can attack to but I was shocked mostly by his speed as he is very quick.


Souness is 5'11, and that is not tiny


Well the match i seen swansea play at anfield and against man city must have been different from the ones you saw.
derryred


 

 

01 Aug 2012 23:45:09
For those saying that Ramirez and Carvani are rubbish etc....you are not looking at the bigger picture.

If and that's a big IF we are actually interested in 1 or both players and their performances are viewed in the same way as lot of people on here then at least their transfer values won't (or shouldn't) shoot up as expected! I for one would love it if we bought those two to be honest!

As for Allen, he did very well tonight as well all know and I hope we wrap a deal for him sharpish! (Hopefully Spurs don't come sniffing around)

K.Bennett


Ramirez is clearly a good player; i'm just not convinced that he could handle the pace and power of the premier league. I wouldn't be disturbed if LFC bought him at a reasonable price, but he'd have to seriously up with workrate to become a top premier league player. Gifted, certainly but a work in progress. Allen is exactly what we need, and i'm STUNNED by the negative posts surrounding his possible capture. he is a fantastic footballer and would help the football flow under BR.
Milamber


 

 

01 Aug 2012 23:35:53
i believe kaka is the major star, he's surplus to requirements at madrid but only loan atmo since they are unsure of who they can get in since spurs asking to much for mod ect


 

 

01 Aug 2012 23:27:10
Seriously, look at all of the positive posts about Allen now and the negative posts about Ramirez after one game. Wow, what a fickle bunch many of you are!

Anyway, did you see that goal that Sigurdsson scored against the Red Bulls we so should have paid over the top wages for him, that's what I'm saying.

Coley


 

 

01 Aug 2012 23:26:04
Why are fans worrying about suarez getting booed? Did you watch our away games on mute last season. It happens all the time but even suarez said himself he only cares about the liverpool and Uruguay fans.


 

 

01 Aug 2012 23:18:29
I have been reading intently over the last few weeks as most reds fans have, about who is coming in and who is going out. I would like to share my thoughts.
Firstly in my opinion if any CB is leaving I would think it would be Skyrtl, yes he had a good season last year but I think Rodgers would prefer the ball distribution skills of Agger with a young exciting prospect in Coates at the back. Aquilani, like he did last pre season has been excellent and there is no doubt he is a talented midfielder and one whom I think would suit the style of play that we are going to adopt this year, I certainly think he would be above Jay and Jordan in the squad, it surprises me to hear all the speculation regarding Charlie Adam, I can assure you he will be in Rodgers plans, a versatile midfielder who can play CM or LM and has a very good passing ability, as will Jonjo who in my opinion is a raw talent and someone that Rodgers can rasily mould, just what we need. I think that Gerrard Lucas and Adam will form the backbone of our midfield and I would rotate Cole, Downing and Henderson. This of course will change if Dempsey signs, and I would suggest that he will play behind Suarez leaving Stevie to sit in the middle like he does best. Just some initial thoughts and I will continue with my assessment of the strikers soon

Lovejoy


Hope the sky turtle doesn't leave, he will be awesome in a few years


 

 

01 Aug 2012 23:00:12
How fickle some people are. Before tonight's game the majority where saying we need to sign GR and JA isn't worth £15 mill now it's the complete opposite. I wonder what the reaction on here will be if JA has a shocker in the quarters?

BigRed


 

 

01 Aug 2012 22:56:30
the fickleness of this pageis so frustrating:


26 Jul 2012 20:43:22
So rameriez scores a free kick peep would have gathered up. But generally average in a good side. Allan looks solid and keeping gb flowing and none one seems to want him. What I'd his name was Josepo allaniho.....
Redphil

Honestly mate what game u watching? He literally only passes to defenders or tries a cross field ball and gives it away. Be honest at least.
Jason

Joe Allen gets the ball from one centre back then passes it to the next. That's basically all he did. Ramirez played some nice one touch football with Suarez scored a class free kick and looks physically stronger and quicker than Allen.

Allen is average and really over rated glad ppl are starting to notice after i have said it for weeks he is not good enough!


Let them have their opinions of him, they will eat their words in a few seasons time. trust me when i say, never write off a youngster.
derryred


 

 

01 Aug 2012 22:53:03
Seriously where have all these Allen lovers come from. Not that it's a bad thing he is a really good prospect. Been saying for weeks that Rameirez may struggle with pace of the PL

redphil


Mate the pace of the PL is set by INTERNATIONAL STARS / too many teams with no possession play and genuine game plan i.e. THE HOME OF COUNTER ATTACK.


Ramirez is one of my favourite players in world football but I always have felt that he may struggle to settle in the priemier league as he is a bit dangly leged and quite skinny. However he had bags of talent but I think he would need a season to settle but he could be a monster with his height and ability.


 

 

01 Aug 2012 22:52:29
Ed001 your my favourite ed

Neilp {Ed001's Note - why thank you mate, did you miss after all the rest off the end? Or were you feeling guilty for forgetting my bday? ;o)}


Wooow! me and ed001 have the same birthday..........a great conversation starter ;P

LFC 2929


Your my favourite ed too ed001, you have the perfect combination of actual information about transfers and your own opinion of the team/transfer business. I love reading your posts.
KiwiRed


The original and best

cozinoz


The one and only, The man himself! Ed001.
Furqan.


 

 

01 Aug 2012 22:49:54
No Agger in the team to Belarus? Injured or gonzo?


 

 

01 Aug 2012 21:18:12
ed if uruguay goes out in the of the olympic games early, will Luis Suarez and Sebastian Coates return earlier? {Ed001's Note - I expect them to go on holiday first, a short break then back into training.}


 

 

01 Aug 2012 22:35:11
Manchester United sign the dodgy Olympic boxing referee on a 2 year deal to replace Howard Webb....

Huws


Im glad I wasnt the only one that saw that. He disqualified that dude for literally no reason.


 

 

01 Aug 2012 22:33:47
Are there any FA rule against us signing Darliks?


'Are there any FA rule against us signing Darliks?'

Ssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

Blater will hear you.

Lil Red


 

 

 
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