Liverpool Banter Archive October 29 2013

29 Oct 2013 21:16:24
Mata is a quality player let's just live in dream world for a minute imagine him in our squad with a young midfielder to back lucas up not much more I would improve on

Minutes over back to reality

Mata and ''Villa's'' Fabian Delph would signal some real intent!

J.Pastore and K.Mitroglou: last year we spent £20.5m on Sturridge & Coutinho in January. this season an extra £10m should be able to be afforded if we are still in a good position come christmas as those two would probably cost £30m give or take a few mill.

Pastore is just class and needs a club to play him like Coutinho, Sturridge, Sakho, Toure. we need him because he can play central or wide and his skill on the ball is reminiscent of kaka no exaggeration. Granted his form hasn't been great of late but once they come to Liverpool that all changes anyway.

As for Mitroglou we need a proper striker to keep our striking options "strong" [not physically but in terms of level of ability]. Aspas is another one that doesn't know where he actually belongs on the pitch, same goes for Borini. we don't need guidetti or hernandez or traore we need a more mature striker that is also known as el pistolero. {Ed002's Note - Sign in please.}

29 Oct 2013 20:42:55
Ed002,
Hope you're well. Was just having a browse over other sites to see who the rivals might be interested in and I noticed that on the Arsenal page on the 20th October you gave a summary of players that you believe or know that they have scouted, are considering or are certainly interested in.
It may be a lot to ask but I was wondering if you could give us a similar thing on the current situation with Liverpool?
Thanks mate. {Ed002's Note - Try in a few days when I have more time. There won't be any shocks as I think everything is out in the open at this time.}

Thanks as always mate

29 Oct 2013 17:31:04
Hi Eds, hope you're well.

I previously seen one of the Eds (sorry, not sure which Ed) mention that Alonso could possibly fancy a move to London/Chelsea. It just got me thinking, isn't that an area Chelsea need to strengthen, and surely he must have a good relationship with Mourinho? Although I don't like to ask how 'likely' a transfer is going to happen, but do any of you Eds feel a certain amount of confidence that this transfer could be a genuine possibility?

It really would break my heart to see Alonso sign for Chelsea. Whether he plays world class or terrible, I'd hate to see it.

Thanks. {Ed002's Note - I am sorry you find it so upsetting. I really don't see it happening myself. I see Alonso's options as Galatasaray (can't see him moving there now), New York Red Bulls, Colorado Rapids or LA Galaxy (all possible) and finally Real Sociedad (in the future perhaps). I can't say the most likely thing to happen but I could give an opinion that he will move to the MLS (maybe the NY Red Bulls) and then return to Spain to end his career with Real Sociedad.}

Is there a chance of Liverpool? {Ed002's Note - It is what it is. If Liverpool is interested they have an enormous amount to do to strike a deal. They have not shown and interest and his interest is clearly elsewhere.}

29 Oct 2013 15:43:16
Glad to hear Rodgers say that he has always wanted to play with one controlling midfielder (Lucas) and two midfielders in front of him (Gerrard/Hendo/Coutinho). This is what we have always been crying out for, to be less defensive. Now this should spice things up!

I think Rogers was playing it safe at the start with no suarez them coutinho got injured so he kept the playing safe and picking up points system working now we're near a fully fitted squad and confidents is high we were play with flair

29 Oct 2013 12:29:21
Eds, what do you know about Alexandru Maxim? I just read he's linked to Liverpool.
Thanks. {Ed002's Note - See previous answers please.}

29 Oct 2013 11:24:12
I don't think he will remain with us beyond summer, regardless of CL.Reaching Top4, is just the entry, Arsenal and chelsea along with UTD reaches every year, and then what?, they don't cross the QF or SF, 3 teams does that most years, Real, Barca and Bayern. He wants to Win the CL, we are miles away from it, and most English Clubs are.
I would sell him personally next summer for a huge money even If we reach CL, We need 5-6 Execptional player sto break bayern, Barca, and real to be a notable team in the CL era.
Luis suarez is just one among them, rest would cost us above 70 millions, and we don't have those kinda money.
Arsenal recieves 40-50 mill from Cl every year, and that's it. They don't cross the QF berth, because they simply don't have players.
Real and Bayern Bench players would be better than Arsneal and Chelsea first teamers.

Luis suarez wants to Win the Cl, not to play the group stages, which we might afford right now. Sell him (I know its hard), get the money Invest it wisely.

If winning the CL was down to squads and benches Manc Blue end should have been in with a shout atleast for QF. Its more than that, I can bet most of you here, that once we are in there we will go far. we don't need to sacrifice suarez for it though. If he wants to leave that's ok. But let's not chicken out at first glance. we were born for that trophy, we cld lift it one handed. left footed its in our teams dna, once they are in there they deliver. they always have dare I say, this seasons form, league run is reminiscent of our CL run, nothing fancy but get the job done. by hook or crook, by luck but we always make it.
And let me even say our weakest point this time next year cld be BR, not the players.

I agree that we are not a Champions League squad yet and I have said this in previous posts but I do not agree that we are miles away.

We have one of the strongest defences in terms of depth and quality. This area does not need strengthening even if we achieve a top four finish this season.

Our strike-force in Suarez and Sturridge is one of the best in the world at the moment. Therefore, this area does not need strengthening either.

Our midfield is probably the weakest area but we are only 2 or 3 players short. I think we would be ready to storm the Champions League with a world class winger and attacking midfielder.

Achieving a top four finish would give us the ability to attract top players. Then we will be ready for the Champions League.

Red Rum

Arsenal have got to the CL finals twice in the last four years. Just about all of the teams that get into the quarter finals have a chance of winning it - saying that Arsenal can't win it is wrong. Maybe not favourites, but no doubt they have a chance.

29 Oct 2013 12:49:21
In 2005 Liverpool beat the best team in the last 20 years (Don't even mention Barcelona in the same breath as that AC Milan team) and we did it with the likes of Traore, Smicer and Baros in the squad. You do not need a squad of 30 world class players to win the Champions league. You need a team that works together and has the desire to succeed. Gerrard single handedly brought that to or teamand we pulled off what can only be descibed as one of the greatest cup upsets in History, and certainly the greatest comeback. The Champions league is no different to any other cup. Wigan, Swansea, Birmingham and anybody else can win it, you just need the belief, a degree of luck, and enough quality on your day to give anybody a game. Greece won the euros about 10 years ago. There is no way you are telling me thay had a better bench than Italys first XI and that's why they won the tournament? They won through team work and determination. Impossible is nothing.

YNWAdam

To say english clubs are miles away is very short sighted. Haven't english clubs won it more than german clubs in the past 10 years? It's also only recently that Real have managed to overcome their Lyons bogey team. It is after all a knockout competition and the teams who win it aren't always the best (and even that is a matter of opinion, who the best is) {Ed002's Note - The rankings have three English clubs in the top seven.}

Barcelona under pep where miles better than the Milan 2005 team. The early 90s team with savicevic etc there a case for, but 2005 team? No chance

29 Oct 2013 11:16:50
Teixeira (Spelling) looks ready for the first team. Seen him in a few U21 games and he looked extremely good! Another Coutinho-type midfielder with dribbling ability. So, please Mr Rodgers, put him on the bench at least and give him half a chance. it might save us millions in the long run.
Brendan know best. YNWA

He didn't look ready for Brentfords first team.

He was just coming back from injury and the physical nature of the lower leagues was against him he is quality and will prove more so in the future. seen him in the next gen against us and we should of bought the whole team. they took us apart and we had a good team. I know that won't translate to first team football but he looks really good.

29 Oct 2013 10:07:45
Just like to post this so people may start realising how good a player Lucas is and how vital he is to our team and formation at the moment.
This is from the LFC website so I am not pretending to have done all this research, I just want as many people to read it as possible (if you haven't seen it on the website already) because I still see people on here saying Lucas isn't good enough, and we need a defensive mid to replace him which is ridiculous.
In the game against West Brom, he touched the ball more than any other player on the pitch (87), made more passes than any other player (69), with an accuracy of 92.8%.
He made more tackles than anybody on the pitch (7), as well as 2 clearances and 3 interceptions.

All this was against a team who beat United away a few weeks ago, did the double over us last season and are set up to hit teams on the counter, something which we are vulnerable to.

He is world class and we are lucky to have him.

29 Oct 2013 08:52:37
So in the next 12 days Arsenal face Chelsea, Liverpool, Dortmund and united with us being the only home match. Without flamini protecting their back 4 I can see them coming undone against all 4 teams. particularly us. {Ed002's Note - They are at home to Chelsea.}

Does Arteta miss the Liverpool game?
And is Walcott still out as well? {Ed001's Note - Arteta is out for 2 games and Walcott is due back any time now, so could be fit, but probably won't start if he is anyway.}

Obviously you have not seen United play recently.

Thanks.
Be interesting to see what team Arsenal put out tonight.

To correct the eds, Arteta is out for one match for denying a goalscoring opportunity. He will return for the Liverpool game as his ban will be served against Chelsea today.