Liverpool Banter Archive October 29 2012

 

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29 Oct 2012 23:01:22
Has anyone got any stats on how many players we've signed in January transfer windows and how many have been a success. I can only think of 1 success plus Suarez who has yet to fulfill his potential.
Masherano is the only success I can think of. Any others?

That's why I think our January transfer business will be limited, possibly zero. The best players are usually unavailable in Jan, save the money until July.

Dr Gloom


Skrtel

Kind regards

The southern red


Maxi Rodriquez


I believe I'm right in thinking we signed Skrtel in January? Your point still stands though, they're few and far between


What about Agger. He is steal of Jan window.

AJ


I thought Dagger was brought in January 2006..


Dr. Gloom

Theres a man I can relate to

Bi-polar


Look at how many BR has bought in january windows and how many where successes.
i'm sure gylfie sigurdsson springs to mind.
derryred


 

 

29 Oct 2012 22:54:48
Daniel Sturridge (agree) or Hooper (disagree)


None of them please.

HK


Pierre-Emrick Aubameyang mate

Cuchulainn's Hounds


What is the point in going for a mediocre striker? We should buy someone who is known for getting goals such as soldado llorente hunterlaar hemed etc.

BthekingB


Hamed is not that great he is lazy he wont track back. If given the choice I will go for Soldado. Him and Suarez will be mouth watering. dream partnership for me will be Suarez and Torres of 2008. But right now I will be happy with Aubameyang.
Red 316


 

 

29 Oct 2012 22:42:07
Epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/29252

Click into the above link to sign an epetition intended to raise enough signatures to trigger a debate to take place questioning whether a person who has a role on a board of directors at a professional club, including chairman, directors, non executive directors and chief executives should then have a role on the English Football Association and whether they would be able to carry out their role on the FA board impartially, given their role at respective professional football clubs.


Is this just for British residents, or will it make it void if anyone outside the uk signs it.
RB


Are you being serious all because you have a "goal" chalked off decisions go against other teams but when it happens against you it's some kind of FA conspiracy refs linesman do make mistake it's called human error maybe Man U do get the rub of the green but I recall everton scoring 3 goals against Newcastle that were not given and do they kick up this much fuss or how about Bolton getting relegated against stoke with a dodgy penalty and a blatant foal on the keeper and I am sure that there chairman is on the FA board so accept and move on you really our sounding pathetic now ! Ste


30 Oct 2012 10:44:37
If other teams are happy to live with poor decisions then that is up to them. Officials should be held accountable to some degree; not just in football but in rugby union too, referees have altered the course of many important games. As a player, as a fan, as anyone interested in sport, and fair play, it is not an acceptable status quo.

It is a slippery slope, if a few unscrupulous officials think they are beyond reproach then bias and poor decisions will always be a possibility in sport. This is not something anyone should be willing to accept.

More clubs should ask, appropriately, for officials to be rated and held accountable for their decisions. You and I have (or should have) appraisals on our work performances. And so should referees. They get paid enough.


Ste, you're missing the point. The weekend incidents (not just the merseyside derby) once again question possible corruption at the FA. You can deny it if you want but can you honestly say that no sporting associations are corrupt? No, you can't.

Regardless of incidents that may have prompted this petition, you can't deny that it's wrong for someone on the board of a club to have a role at the FA.


Frankly I don't care about other clubs. I am a LFC fan and I wont want anyone to bully us or take a piss at us .If we have to go to a higher authority to get some results our way I will do that. do you think fans from other club care what happen to us or how we are cheated week after week or how we we blamed for years.
Red 316


So what you are saying is the FA tell the refs and linesman to make sure liverpool lose!unbeliveable


I'm sure many Chelsea fans would sign this right now.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 22:31:07
Oh my word I am actually in disbelief at our bitter delusional neighbours...I went on their page earlier to see what they had said about Neville's dive, considering they are so moral when it comes to cheating. Basically what has come out of it is that it doesn't matter if neville dives because Suarez dives all the time and other Liverpool players apparently did during the match, an that it's ok for Bale, Welbeck and Young to dive because they are 'nice people'...i personally couldn't care less if Phil Neville dives, just thought the irony of it was hilarious. All players dive from time to time, it's not a very nice, but very common aspect of the game we all enjoy. People need to get over it.

Their comments however are scraping the barrell somewhat


30 Oct 2012 09:31:05
Ha, I just went to have a gander myself and some of those comments are unbelievable.

One calls Evra a well-respected professional, to which their own Ed responds with calling Evra the King of the douche people.

And Bale is an arrogant son of a person -bigger than playing for Britain with a "injury", so he plays for Tottenham in a friendly (most likely a sprained vagina) -he is no way a "nice person"

Jolly Red


Ha ha ha ha omg i have seen it all now, liverpool fans calling any other fan deluded is unreal coming from the most deluded fans this planet has ever seen.


30 Oct 2012 11:34:36
It just made me laugh, imagine a ref saying to a player " I'm gonna let you off that horrific tackle because you helped an old lady cross the road last week". When you consider that football encompasses everything that's wrong with the world - its ruled by money and brings out the worse in otherwise normal and upstanding citizens. People make excuses for people who we would have no time for in the real world, it causes us to make racist, homophobic and misogynistic comments and makes us be mean to people who dont support the same teams as us. Kind of like religion, but without the war. And still some people think the ref should go easy on "nice people". All this said I love the game, despite it's flaws and I'd be lost without supporting my team at the weekend.

I used to think we had a section of supporters who are delusional, thinking we were going to win the league this year and sign players for £60m, but recent comments on the Everton page have brought a new meaning to the word.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 22:29:13
Looks like the linesman who gave Suarez offside at the weekend will not be officiating the next set of matches and rightly so. However, if you ask me i'd like to see him out for a much, much longer time.

AsianRed


Give him gateshead town on a wet saturday morning and he'll never do it again.


Gave an offside that wasn't even close on account that he "thought it was". I'm sorry but that's not professional standard, this type of poor officiating is why the Premier League is not and will not be accepted as the best league by the rest of the world.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 22:15:47
How many more weeks till we can expect to see Luca playing key player for our style.

LFCgreg


 

 

29 Oct 2012 20:49:43
In all honestly think we need a new goalkeeper and and a out n out pacey/clinical striker the rest is falling into place nicely im a believer in rodgers vision liverpool will be restored to former greatness.

ACHILLES.


And a left back, and a right back, and a central defender, and two strikers


Hold your horses until January. Reina is still first choice. End off


 

 

29 Oct 2012 20:18:46
ED, I feel we need a new left back and I believe Rodgers is looking for one, but there's not many out there, who do you like the look of that is a realistic possible target?

Benoît Trémoulinas?
Fabio Coentrao?

Right bow I also believe we should be looking at:

Lewis Holtby-Pre-Contract-Attacking Midfielder, Nuri Sahins replacement after the season

Dries Mertens-£10-£12m-Pacey, Goalscoring Winger, be our Mata/Cazorla/Hazard

Pierre-Emrick Aubameyang-£9-£11m-Tall,Strong,Fast Goalscoring Striker

Anyone else think of realistic possible targets, Currently performing well?

Cheers
Dano Y.N.W.A {Ed001's Note - I honestly haven't seen anyone I rate higher than our youth left backs. There just doesn't seem any outstanding left backs, that would be attainable, out there.}


I hope we can get aubameyang, he makes walcott loke like mertesaker and has a good technique.
derryred


Maybe Nacho Monreal? Haven't seen much of him, looks pretty good and perhaps not really expensive. Maybe try to get Enrique going the other way? Also heard good things about Mattia De Sciglio, though I've hardly seen him play. His preferred position is RB but he can play either side. Young and quick, very comfortable on the ball, two footed, worth a look. Seen much of him eds? Thanks.

SpanishChris {Ed001's Note - not seen the second one, not sure about Nacho.}


 

 

29 Oct 2012 20:16:01
What did you all think of Roy Evans? Do you think he could have taken us that step further if Houllier hadnt been introduced?

Could he still do a job for the club in some capacity (maybe youth level)?

I just remember us playing some great football under him & he helped bring through the likes of Fowler, Redknapp, Mcmanaman, Rob Jones, Mateo etc

Crooky
YNWA


I loved him at the club, our attacking was so free-flowing and would love him back at the club, not as a manager as i really like BR however definitely at youth level at least. it is a crime that he was oush out of our club. few would complain if he was reintroduced.
derryred


Good shout. Perhaps we should give Souness a job as well or bring Kenny back


Agree with the above post , but I thought Paul Ince should have replaced Phil Babb and not John Barnes , with the team reverting to a back four with a diamond midfield .

Jargon .


Roy is Liverpool's most underrated manager and is unlucky to be judged against a higher standard than GH/RB/RH/KK2. He must be gutted that ECL qualification rules were changed because he would have comfortably qualified every season and by today's standards would have been a success. His teams played high class football and did much to repair the damage wrought by Souness.

Barrym


Gerard holluier and rafa Benitez were good managers. I don't know where you lot where during their reina. We played beaut football under rafa and had such a class squad. Stop hating on rafa


Rafa was good but not legendary


^ Rafa was good but not legendary? The man took us to 2 European Cup final's qualified for the Champion's league every year bar his last! wiped the floor with some top top team's yet to you he was "Alright" nothing to write home about? Nugget!


He was good tactically


 

 

29 Oct 2012 20:14:04
when everton play stoke gonna have a bet the ball doesnt get any grass on it.

alan waddle


Gonna also bet half the crowd have left at half time due to severe boredom


We have had the most attempts at goal for the whole of Europe and that does not come from just long balls. {Ed001's Note - why doesn't it? Silly statement that is, long balls do create chances, ask Fat Sam, he has built his management career on it.}


Only 200 people will care which team has kicked the other more.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 20:12:03
Can anyone answer why Anfield is no longer a fortress?

Over the last few years we have not won games against the 'lower' ranked teams - Norwich, West Ham, Stoke, Portsmouth, Fulham, West Brom, Wigan & the list goes on. Now this hasnt just been happening for 2/3 years, its been happening for about the 10/15 years.

I am talking about the Hodgson, Benitez, Houllier, Evans & Souness years. Now I cant think of the reason why. Would it be that the boot room was removed (by Souness)? Ovbiously it was reinstated by Benitez, albeit in a different place but is this the real reason.

Was something lost when Kenny lefty back in 1991/92. Did teams just stop to fear us once he left?

Any thoughts?

Crooky
YNWA


It's because the team is rubbish. You can only have a fortress if your team is half decent


The squad is not good enough at the moment for Anfield to be a fortress. The team has been poorly managed for several years, while other top teams have moved forward we have been left behind. We are heading in the right direction and over the next few seasons I can see us moving closer to competing for domestic and European success. Once the team is improved (Brendan has int been in charge a few months) over time Anfield will become the scurge of any team in Europe let alone teams in the league!


Sorry but we had quality squads under houllier and especially Benitez. If Benitez had the backing of the owners things would have been a lot different, people need to wake up to that fact


Benitez had the backing of the owners - you need to wake up to the cost of Keane, Babel, Masch, Torres, Alonso etc


Because the majority of the fans are different and the 'kop' is not what it once was??


A big turning point was when we finished 2nd in the league under rafa and everybody was saying we could really push on and win it next season. I've heard around the grapevine that rafa had lined up dani alves, david villa and david silva to come in over the summer and with those additions i think we would have had the strongest side in the premier league. however the owners didnt/wouldnt/couldnt release the money for the moves and they went elsewhere and that next season we were quite poor and havent really recovered. however i think we are doing it the right way at the moment and firmly believe Rodgers is the man to bring us back into the champions league spot and then in time deliver us our first premier league crown.
NZL_red


Rafa was good but come on he has wasted lots money on poor talent as well as Roy, Kenny they have to share blame!! Give BR time as he has to still get rid of some dead wood still at LFC. Let him bring the right players with hunger and passion then lets see you jump back on the bandwagon...waving your red scarf

LFC4Life


Anfield is so so quiet on matchday's! not what it use to be like!


 

 

29 Oct 2012 20:10:16
dont think sahin is all that good i think hes afraid to go forward and likes to pass back think shelvey is better, we dont need to waste the millions mourinho want for him


Give him a bit more time. He's been injured for the best part of a season, then thrown into the EPL. He is real quality, he just need a bit more time to get going and build himself up a bit. I'm glad he's in our squad.

Nick


He has plenty of class, but wants time of the ball he won't be afforded in the EPL, especially in a derby. I think you'll see some moments of brilliance in coming months, but not his full potential for some time given his return from a long string of injuries and adjustment to our team/league etc.

Time will tell whether he becomes a prominent player or not, but I'll choose to judge that later in the season.

Papa G


Sahin is class. Adds a lot of depth in our midfield. We have a quality midfield. But lack quality in other areas.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 19:53:12
Hi Eds,
I know it's not LFC related but you think the FA will really look into the Mark Clattenburg incident. I personally think they'll let him go unless it is something like what Terry or Suarez said.
YNWA
JFT96 {Ed001's Note - they will have to investigate it, they have received an official complaint, they have no choice but to look into it.}


I really doubt clattenburg is that stupid
derryred


Well the police have been contacted now so it might be getting a little more serious. I would be surprised if Clattenburg would say something knowing it would cost him his job but in the heat of the moment he might have lost his cool and said something. If he did he should lose his job because that is just completely uncalled for at any level of play for a ref to do.

Red Rat


30 Oct 2012 00:15:38
Rat, just to play Devil's advocate:

Should Suarez and Terry be banned from playing too then?

- Something Red -


If you're going to start sacking referees for it, then players must go too. Football is a job after all and there are rules. Its a massive breach of conduct. Anywhere else in the world and you'd be walked off site for racism


Referees are held to a higher standard, it is necessary if they are to act as an adjudicator.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 19:39:00
these bitters are proper funny mate,youve got to laugh!!the way there goin on cos they finished 7th last year and have had a start they cant believe this year and now suddenly they think there in with a chance of doing something this year haha come on will yas,give ya heads a wobble,it makes me laugh when i hear them goin on about were gonna do this an that,win this thing an the other from the title to qualifying for the champions league(qualifiers again,we all know how that turne out haha) ive even heard shouts they fancied themselves for the ryder cup and there looking good for a shot at wimbledon this year aswell....7th wasnt even good enough to get yas europe this year,but lets have it right yas struggle to get beyond qualifiers and the 3rd round anyway when yas do very occaisionally get there,i know yas won the european version of the zenith data systems trophy back in 1985 but thats it really....pity they dont bring the zenith back yous always done ok in that,well semis or something anyway...haha
rodger the dodger


Well liverpool during our dark times has won more trophies than everton in the last 20 odd years
derryred


 

 

29 Oct 2012 19:35:26
I remember before the Reading game, I made a prediction that we would win one, and go unbeaten for 3 games. We have done better, having beaten Anzhi and Reading. So things are on the up.

Piledriver


So you were wrong then?


No he was right...either thats terrible sarcasm or you haven't been to specsavers


Their point was we've done one better then they predicted.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 19:32:26
Hi Eds,

Quick question, if you have the time.

If we were to fail to get 4th this season, do you think Lucas would start to look elswhere. Maybe look for champions league football, we all know he is good enough!

Thanks for your time.

Crooky
YNWA {Ed001's Note - not Lucas I don't. If the right offer came along, he might consider it, but I very much doubt he would go looking for a move. Lucas is just not that type of person, he has worked damn hard and is finally reaping the rewards, there is no real reason for him to move yet.}


Thanks Ed001 - you have put my mind at rest

Crooky
YNWA


If? Don't you mean when?


I would be totally understandin, after the abuse he recieved off some of us if he did. to boo your own teams player is an absolute disgrace.
derryred


 

 

29 Oct 2012 19:03:28
i just saw lfc tv and molby said there could 40 mil available in january.
my question is why was this money not there last window?
does it make sence to be 6/7 points behind in january and then spend.
rodgers knew when he took the job he did not want adam carrol ect ect,he proberly new then that enrique was not his kind of left back.
we missed out on a striker i understand that,but no money left to spend in aug and 40 mil in january for me doesnt make sence.
eds?


Wishful thinking on the part of molby there maybe?
If I had 40m I would blow 35m on a striker, and 5m on cover for Lucas.
They are the only gaps I see that our youngsters couldn't fill.

MIKEY


If the owners came out with that then i would be over the moon but don't bet your life savings on it just yet mate.
derryred


The only way i could see there being any truth in this is if that money was to go towards building a new ground, but with us choosing to redevelop anfield it may free up more funds for transfers highly doubt it but we can hope

lfc80


Damiao or Higuain for £25m


Hmm mikes i think Molby might no abit more than you about inside info. We definately need a top striker that has a record of being clinical. RedTurk


I would spend the whole lot on ensuring we got Falcao


If, and a big if at that, there is 40mill available, it wouldn`t have been there in the summer because it is more than likely the money saved in wages from all the outgoings over the summer. I dont think a big big name is realistic, and for all the wants and desires of the fans, we may even struggle to spend all of that money.
The Rev


40 million to spend:
Damoia 20 million
Erikson 17 million

Outs:
Cole 1 million
Downing 6 million
Henderson 8 million
Carrol 17 million
Spearing 2 million.

Then we could buy sahin next summer and that would do us fine.

What do you think people?


^ That would be very good!


 

 

29 Oct 2012 18:46:08
A simple solution to help prevent so many errors being made during a match would be to introduce 4 linesmen (two in each half)
For instance, for a player to be ruled off-side, both linesmen must raise their flags. If only one is raised the attacking player is given the benefit of the doubt.
The ball going out for a throw-in can be more closely monitored. The ball swinging out of play from a corner and goal line decisions will also have an extra pair of eyes to help make the correct call.
This system won't eradicate errors completely, but will give the referee confidence when making potential game changing decisions.

Grant. {Ed001's Note - I have said that for years, no need for those extra officials on the goal line, two more linesman would offer far more.}


I do like that idea actually, i just wonder whether they would still just stick together in a way. The one linesman would see the other go to put his flag up and then follow suit and vice versa

Adam {Ed001's Note - maybe, but the only way to find out would be to try it.}


Exactly, there is no way a linesman can keep up with the pace of a winger and a full back going one way and a winger and a full back going the other.
Offside decisions will be a lot more reliable, plus an extra set of eyes at a different angle will always help in other incidents like penalties and bad tackles.
It's worth a try, might even be enough to stop a video ref coming in, so everyone's happy.

MIKEY


Well i really don't get why all of these lesser played sports have all got video aid whilst we're still stuck with contraversial decisions nearly every week, but what breaks my heart is that they nearly always go to united. for the sake of a video official, or some sort of video aid, we'd have 3 more points,Ireland will have made the world cup, suarez may well have actually won a penalty. Germany wouldn't have completely beat england. i can go through examples from every single week where a video ref will have come in very handy. there is too much money involved in football for there not to be.
derryred


I don't see the problem of just bringing in video refs, it would sort the problem out overnight. It hasn't affected other sport too much and tbh, I think it adds to it, as long as the decisions to go 'upstairs' is made by the ref in charge, if a captain of either side asks for it.

Where it goes wrong in some sports is where (like in cricket) a player uses it to try and get the decision changed when he knows full well he's out.

Keith


I still don't understand why referees cant refer something for video analysis in situations where there has already been a break in play such as a contentious goal.
Ridiculous. I'm not really in favour of a system as in cricket or tennis where each team is allowed a certain number of referrals but just some mixture of common sense and technology. ForzaRed


I am sorry but will disagree with this. As much as I am gutted with the loss of 2 points because of the referee, I am still happy with the amount of referees in the game. Simply because the more the human, more the error.

Also, if there was no such error, what would be mortal humans would be left fussing over the next day in a perfect football world. JUST THE RESULT.

rubbish happens, but it is the banter which makes it fun sometimes.

I was gutted about the decision, and am still livid with it, but it is part of the game, and has to be taken in the chin I would say.
mgz


You`d rather have a `bit of banter` on a monday morning at work, over decisions that have cost us points and bragging rights, instead of basking in victory and spending the next week(if not longer) rubbing it in every bitters face every chance you had? keep your banter....i`ll take the glory
The Rev


If video technology was introduced, it would be the death of football and it would end up as sterile and dispassionate as lawn bowls.
I don't know any other sport that is so hotly debated and analysed after the matches have finished - the refs decisions, the linesman calls, the dive, the contentious penalty, the sneaky elbow, the ball not over the line. All of these topics become redundant with video proof. Human error is vital to the game and feeds the passion on the terraces and the post-game banter in the pubs.
Did Luis Garcia really score in the Chelsea semi? We're still debating Geoff Hurst nearly 50 years later.
We have decisions go against us and decisions in our favour - they all even out over the course of the season. As long as the refs are impartial and trying their best, we have to live with the odd error and hope it goes our way next time. There's a case for using video evidence after a match to retract unfair red/yellow cards and punish diving but to extract the human element from the decision-making on the pitch will only dilute the emotion of fans and turn football into just another sport.


I think the bottom line that the game (particularly the English game) is far too fast paced for referees and linesmen to keep up with it... incidents happen in the blink of an eye and video tech is the only way forward.
In saying all that though, to get an offside call wrong from a dead ball situation is unforgivable and that guy clearly should never officiate again.
Joe B


 

 

29 Oct 2012 18:12:38
Would be nice to be able to talk about goals, skills, runs and gut busting displays after games. rather than offside decisions, dives, referees, linesmen and any other number of "controversial" incidents like we do these days.
Football is becoming less and less a sport and more and more a reality tv series.
Although I like a bit of controversy now and again it's getting to the point where games are only won and lost by who dives or who pulled whose hair or who got most players sent off.

MIKEY


One word : Money

Roy


Arsenal would only have drawn, liverpool would have won and chelsea would have at least drawn. Bad and incompetent officials are having a major impact on clubs.


Another possible word: impartiality?


 

 

29 Oct 2012 17:55:57
Not necessarily for the forum ed, but have been searching the net about what Mark Clattenburg may or may not have said. One source mentions spanish t***
but do you know what has been reported by chelsea?
I appreciate if you do not wish to speculate. I just cant imagine a ref using a racial slur. Calling a player a t*** for me is no biggy as its a man's game, we are all big boys, we have all lip read what players call ref's but it is a shock to read it may indeed be racial {Ed001's Note - I don't know what has been said, but Clattenburg has faced accusations of inappropriate language before. Man City players accused him of making comments about Craig Bellamy at half time, before sending him off with a second booking for diving after he was clearly fouled. It does suggest he is not just a useless referee, but also a very poor judge of what an unbiased official should and shouldn't say. I do agree to a point with what you are saying, but if he used the word 'Spanish' prior to an insulting word, then that should be treated in exactly the same way as Terry was treated for using the word 'black' in front of an insulting word.}


I take it you mean brush it under the carpet for almost a year, stand a trial and concoct a spurious defence, get off with it then serve an arbitrary ban from the fa...though David gill may be able to fast track a solution in return for more dodgy decisions for united....all allegedly of course

Marshy


Yeah i agree ed, im sure the papers will soon be letting us know his exact words, it is difficult to believe that an official would use a racial slur. If found guilty no doubt will never work in football again, and rightly so. Wonder if he would receive similar match bans and weekly fines as other recently have in football or if it is bye bye mr Clattenburg. {Ed001's Note - it's not that difficult mate, no more difficult than it is any other person. There is a whole list of Clattenburg's failures, he should have never been let back into the list after being sacked in 2008. There are numerous suspensions and relegations in his record, for being useless. It is time he was removed from the Prem list, regardless of whether he is guilty or not, purely for being an absolute clown.}


Spot on ed001.
Some referees have been known to use worse language than the players and I am all for a ref who can stand up for himself and can dish it out as well as receive.
Let's hope he is just a useless ref and not guilty of using that language, because I don't want to see referees being scared of using the good old t, c and f words.

MIKEY


Clattenburg cost us when we played Man U at Anfiled earlir in the season and his decisions and antics come as no surprise to me- hope he is consigned to the scrap heap very soon


 

 

29 Oct 2012 17:49:45
Suarez 'dive' infront of Moyes made the ginger whinger look a clown and shamed him but not as much as his own captains clear dive. Please all the persons who think they can get to our amazing Luis, keep doing it cos he is the only one laughing. Fire him up and watch him cut through your teams.


We have seen it for years. An opposing manager Slags of a player then the player steps up and destroys the managers team.
Seems managers are just as thick as the players.
And on that logic: Suarez if your reading this your an person, a diver and you have a small penis.
Now go score me a hattrick while I go the bookies ;)

MIKEY


I remember when Benitez called Drogba a diver and we played them in the champions league I think. Drogba just dumped all over us

GuvTOB


 

 

29 Oct 2012 17:45:09
Clemence
Mark lawrenson. Alan hansan

Steve nichol. Emlyn Hughes
Souness
Gerrard. Ray Kennedy

Dalglish
Rush. Fowler

Subs
Reina.
Fairclough
Hyppia
Molby
Heighway
Mcdermott
Barnes
Beardsley

Just a bit of fun fellow reds this my all time Liverpool team,tricky one what with so many good players we have had, it was hard to leave kozma out eh? Ha ha! & don't murder me for picking lawro I know he is a bit of a tool in the media but as a player he was class with hansen,like to hear your views/teams.... Jft96
Paisley's genius


I like the look of that team a lot but you've gotta get Phil Neal in there.

Chris in Tamworth


Gotta have some Liddell in there


Kevin Keegan?


Know what you're saying chris zico was boss just went for nichol for adaptability & I know Liddell was a legend but i never saw him play so just went for players I have seen, good points though....
Paisley's genius


As good as Ray Kennedy and Phil Neal were, Nicol and Barnes were awesome over a 2-3 year period (87-89) during which they both earned player of the year awards. For that reason I would have these 2 in the starting XI. I would also look to have Xabi at the least on the bench instead on Molby. Finally, as much as I disliked his sulking and the way he handled his departure, Torres has to be on the bench at the least due to how prolific he was during his 1st couple of years.

Cheers all! {Ed001's Note - how can Torres get on the bench? He was simply not as good as Fowler, Rush, Dalglish, Keegan, Toshack, Liddell and never as prolific as Aldridge.}


Barnes on the bench?
Shame on you, ha ha.
Rigsby.


John Barnes on the bench. Please tell me you're not serious.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 17:39:29
Brilliant luis Suarez celebration but is is disgraceful that we keep getting robbed of decisions


 

 

29 Oct 2012 17:25:20
Horrible and scandalous as the denial of Suarez winner was, let it NOT detract from the appallingly woeful defensive shambles that let the bitterrubbish back into the game.
That's the only worthy talking point: we completely switched off and squadered a two goal lead in 12 woeful minutes, TWO goal lead.

Highly unacceptable. We did the exact same thing vs Udense and paid a dear price for it.
If we genuinely aspire to improved results and surging up there log, the players seriously gonna have to get their act together... I mean, SERIOUSLY get their act together.

The Bitterrubbish never had to work hard for those goals, that's what pisses me off. And to think that they could even have won it before HT. Had that Mereilles not pulled out injured, they may well have walloped us.

I don't blame Rodgers one bit. He was virtually spot on with his selections and tactics, and his changes at HT were astute and enabled us to wrestle back a match that was exponentially slipping away.
Just let down by his players.

We really can ill-afford to go on like this. As it is, we lack a cutting edge upfront, and having to score 3, 4 goals just to win a match (to compensate for our shambolic defending and inclinationr to lull) is unrealistic and frankly unsustainable.

The game itself was decent enough, a mixture of irony, hyperbole and contradiction. Both sides more or less had their moments and it could easily have gone either way.
Suarez was class, absolute magic. Raheem had a good game too, though his rough edges and immaturity were more apparent than in any other match thus far. He'll learn and grow, though. Big future.

Second best player on the pitch was Mereilles. Ran rings round our defence. Matters may have taken a different outcome had he stayed on. Very good player.

We could have nicked at the end, it probably would've been harsh on them. Not unfair to say the scoreline was perhaps a 'fair' reflection of the game's good and bad.
Both sides will feel that they deserved more from the game, but probably wouldn't be too keen on a rematch if one was offered.

The potential is there. Sure enough, I'm optimistic, but there's some serious shoring up we have to do at the back. Ironically, it's not the poor finishing/profligacy upfront that's done us badly, but the shambolic and erroneous defending.
Often we do/score enough to at the very least get something in game, but for comical defending.
Sort that out and we'll get our just rewards more often than not.

Other than that, we look good. Going forward, there's grounds for optimism.
We'll have to support, wait and see.

WILLIE


Good post WILLIE! Personally I thought we should have accepted one of the offers for either Martin or Daniel back in the summer and invested it in the defence, Sebastian had shown enough at international level to deserve a run in the team to see if he was a long term solution at CB and the Rumoured £20M we were being offered could have bought that striker we need IMO. GED


We need Lucas back mate.
Everyone says we are not putting away our chances and they are right but we are letting far too many goals in and that's a bigger problem in my eyes.
Lucas will come back and our defence will be Kevlar coated.
The protection he gives our defence is immense, he must half the amount of decent chances an opposing team gets to when he's out the team.

MIKEY


I'm hoping somebody offers us silly money for agger or skrtle next summer and we can put Coates in and reinvest the money.
I doubt we will get that kind of offer again though.

MIKEY


 

 

29 Oct 2012 17:25:09
IMO,I think our best midfield till lucas comes back should be allen,hendo,gerrard..I have watched shelvey and henderson well this season wud pick hendo over him anyday..he has more composure and game intelligence twice that of jonjo..shelvey brings mostly physicality to our midfield..and till when wiil rodgers stop being weird and play sterling assaidi and suarez upfront...suso isn't a major threat on the right..even if suarez bites another player,I would still support him..u can't buy a player like that for 22m this days..let's suarez hand in a transfer request and see if the other top 4 clubs in EPL won't still sign him...I tell u most people hate him bcos he's world class and controversial..imagine it was borini doing all these things suarez does..do u think anybody wud care??


 

 

29 Oct 2012 16:23:23
hi ed001, i just wanted yur opinion on who you would target for a striker at Liverpool? personally i would be looking at La Liga and players like Soldado and Llorrente instead of the players we seem to be linked with like Gary Hooper for instance cheers red 89 {Ed001's Note - unless we could get Falcao, Llorente or Higuain, I just wouldn't bother, I don't see a need to buy right now. The likes of Ibe, Sinclair etc are almost ready.}


It's a shame a player of the standard of higuain or falcao cant look at Liverpool and see the massive difference they would make, the different level they would take us and the sheer amount of goals they would get with the chances we create, without being blinded by the money offered elsewhere.
Any of the players you mentioned ed001 would become LFC superstars but are probably more than happy picking up obscene wages to warm benches at the likes of Madrid and Chelsea.
Not saying I would be any better though I would probably take the money and run as well :)

MIKEY


Darren Bent or Steven Fletcher would be great additions.

BIG FISHING ROD


I would play for Liverpool before money any day .


 

 

29 Oct 2012 16:30:06
hi eds just a question is lucas back in training ray3037 {Ed002's Note - Soon.}


 

 

29 Oct 2012 16:15:18
why is it, when a defender shields the ball and attacker comes from behind giving the slightest touch the defender goes down it is good play by him, but when an attacker goes down it is diving and all hell breaks loose


I hate when defenders do that. An indirect free kick should be awarded. It's blatant obstruction.


Most players seem to be top heavy these days.
Brains made of lead is my guess.

MIKEY


I think that referees give less thought about awarding free kicks in non threatening areas. if a defender dives to win a free kick at his corner flag people will be annoyed at the time but will then forget about it, however if a striker dives to win a free at the edge of the box and it ends up in the top corner then questions get asked.
derryred


 

 

29 Oct 2012 16:10:52
Everybody is saying things about Suarez goal which should of stood but I have not seen a single post asking about evertons 2nd goal when they got the throw but it clearly came of miralls not wisdom! It should of been our throw not theirs!
Redmanluka


A bit of in-experience by wisdom , he never put his hand up to claim the throw , still think he will be a better player after that big game , redforever


Redmanluka, because you can excuse the referee and lineman for not spotting the touch from Mirallas ..where the disallowed goal, the lineman should 've seen the last player was blue and he also took over 10 seconds to raise his flag after the ball was at the back of the net which suggests he changed his mind or something made him want to gives it offside .. it was not based on what he saw.
Roy


I think you will find there was loads yesterday about the throw in.

MIKEY


 

 

29 Oct 2012 16:10:15
Steven Gerrard: "With what he said about Luis Suarez before, David Moyes was trying to get in the referee's head, which is fine, that's all part of the game, stuff like that, but you don't expect your captain to dive like that."

Is this guy for real........? Pot, kettle etc. Only beaten by Owen in ability to dive/ fall over in a breeze in LFC history (although Suarez appears intent on beating them both).

Mrpjd


Are you for real?

Gerrard is associated with thunderbolts, inspirational moments, hat-tricks and winning trophies.....not diving sunshine.

Stop avoiding the obvious.

Moyes called for strict actions against diving. But Everton's captain chucks egg on his face...

Not going to go there with the linesman and his lack of b*lls, or rather, brown envelope.

Lee YNWA


Maybe so, but he didn't come out and condemn diving like Moyes did prior to the game.

~Fresh


Harsh, but true.


Lee, yes I am for real and those attributes you mention are so true and what makes him a wonderful player. But I'm not a wearer of red tinted spectacles, from the time I wasn't dissppointed at Aldridge's missed Cup Final pen vs Wimbledon due to the way he "won" the spot kick in the first place.

Great player- all the more reason to behave like one in every sense.

Mrpjd


 

 

29 Oct 2012 15:48:49
If we had gotten the result we deserved yesterday, we would be 5 points off 4th.


29 Oct 2012 16:13:42
The reult you deserved would have got you 0 points!


And the results we deserved v city and united


To the post that said we deserved 0 points what game were you watching considering we scored a perfectly good winner c;mon admit it. hope that lines man is demoted next week ref had a good game though could he not have over ruled the linesman maybe he hadnt a good enough view.Tommy Irish Red


Scoring 3 legit goals compared to the oppositions 2 would bring 3 points u need to learn numbers and how points are given in football.complete person u are.


Do you realy think you deserved anything from the game you had a storming 20 minutes then it was Evertons match if it was not for mirallas having to go off injured we would of beat you


Just another Bitter, I see Stef the blue is not around commenting? He had lots to say the other day. It's amazing really when you think about it, we score a winner against one of Fergies friends its disallowed, then the next game later that day, Fergies team score a blatant offside goal and its given. These should be reviewed after a match then given or taken away as what suggests.
The FA is as bent as a £9note. Changes need to be made, perhaps a group of ex players,that gets changed regularly could be the new FA, no team should have an connection to the board I.e Gill etc. wrong wrong wrong.
Lee73


Poster above you've excuses for your numerous Semi and Final defeats. You were favourites against kid debutants in your GREAT Start to season. and fact is you should've lost-AGAIN-3-2. Even Gargoyle said it was a goal


The truth is we deserved to lose. For 60 minutes Everton dominated the game, were more dangerous, almost all their attacks were dangerous and only in the last 10 minutes we got the game back(of course also some glimpses of dangerous attacks from our site inbetween i.e Sterling).

This was probably the only game in PL so far, we deserved to lose. Not against Arsenal not against WBA(in which the referee destroyed the game). Everton were far better and more dangerous in most of the game. Unfortunately they robbed us the 3 points!


 

 

29 Oct 2012 15:41:24
Hi Ed's please post this!
This is to any Liverpool fans living in Canada!
Everyone who lives in Canada knows that the soccer coverage is fantastic... But for some reason this season it seems there not covering the Capitol one cup (carling cup).
I have all the sportsnet channels but the last round was not on and the Swansea game on Wednesday night isn't listed either! Neither is any other game...
Can anyone please tell me what's going on! And if anyone knows what channels it may be shown on!
Thank you
YNWA


If it's not on Sportsnet World then you might have to watch it online. Try the Sportsnet World website or Firstrowsports.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 15:40:46
GET OVER IT it's gone moan moan moan it was a good draw! NorjeRed {Ed001's Note - no it was not, who the hell are you Roy Hodgson? Only Hodgson thinks a draw with Everton is a good result.}


Haha Ed made me laugh with that one.

Red raj {Ed001's Note - that was the moment for me that Hodgson should have got the sack! No one can call a draw against your closest rivals a good result.}


I thought we lost to them 2-0 and he called it our best performance of the season?

Rafa's Purple Goatie {Ed001's Note - I just remember him saying 'if we could have got a draw, it would have been a good result.' I was so incensed at that, I can't remember anything else about the game, just the thought that he should go and now.}


Is this rednorje still trying to pose as a red is he haha come on soft lad were all on to ya you tosser!! pfff it brings a smile to my face thinking about how deluded these bitters are,i mean there just like tears for fears,theyve done f*** all scince 1985 either haha
sorry tell a lie they NEARLY qualified for the champions league once......im pissin meself here writing this


Forgot to sign off on that last one, i was to busy laughin me head off
rodger the dodger


 

 

29 Oct 2012 14:50:27
Many of us still aren't over the disappointment of yesterday's match, including myself, but lets have a look at some positives.

We all know Buck can talk the talk, but he proved yesterday that he can walk the walk as well...changing formation at half time was a fantastic move on his part. Everton were really getting a grip on the game after we went 2-0 up, and he put a stop to that. We defended like mad, Skrtel and Agger were solid at the back during the second half, and we were really making the most of attacking opportunities that we had, rather than running around like headless chickens and firing off shots left right and centre. I hardly saw Jelavic during the whole match.

We have been worried about our striker situ all season, but over the last few games Suarez has really stepped up. He saw an opportunity to create an OG and went for it, and then scored the second and third, it's just a shame it was disallowed. He is up there with the league's top scorers now, which is a vast improvement on last season already. My only concern is with the number of games he is playing, he needs someone decent as back up otherwise he will burn out. As it is, I can't think of many strikers I would replace him with in a first 11. Him and Sterling are linking up really well already, only change I would make is using Assaidi sometimes on the other wing rather than Suso. We have enough games for them to get plenty of playing time sharing that role.

I think I might be the only one that thinks this, but I don't think any of our players are 'deadwood'. We have decent quality coming in off the bench, I just feel we need to add more quality to the squad, especially regarding attacking players. Once Lucas is fit again, our midfield options are really quite good , with Gerrard, Shelvey, Lucas, Allen, Sahin, Hendo and Suso. Downing, whilst he isn't regular first 11 quality is a decent enough squad player. Brad Jones is really stepping up in Pepe's absense, and will hopefully challenge him for the regular starting spot, which might kick Pepe's ass into gear. I'd like to see Pacheco get more chances, but if we could bring in an experienced striker I think we'll be alright. Someone who can do the job while we are developing Yesil and Morgan.

All in all I think we are doing alright. I know our rivals like to rib us, but there's no way we'll end the season in the bottom half of the table. Everton have had a cracking start, but they have had much easier games than us so far, wait until they have played all the top teams and we'll see how they are then...i'd like to think that we can finish top 5, with the way we are progressing, and have a good cup run. Winning Europa would be awesome.

Cheers guys


Agree with much but I would class enrique as deadwood. I think we can do better than Jones (and reina, or that matter).


Agree with most of what you said , think jones has played quite well in goal but will be kicking himself for punching the ball into danger zone , also skrtel switched off and allowed a simple cross to be easily converted to a goal , but have the faith , BR will have us back in top four soon .
redforever


 

 

29 Oct 2012 15:13:16
The thrid goal shoud've stood. FACT.

But that wasnt the reason we lost yesterday. We are quick to look at blaming others before taking the blame ourselves. We are at a stage of feeling sorry for ourselves as a football club from the fans, to the players and to the manager.

We were 2-0 up and conceded 2 very sloppy goals in 12 minutes. The ref didnt score Evertons goals, we gave them the right to get back into the game. We should have seen them off after going 2 goals up and this is where the real problem lies with Liverpool at the minute.

1. We arent deffending well in general.
2. We dont have enough players scoring goals.

When you are conceding lots of goals and not scoring many yourself you are going to loose/draw more games than your going to win. This then makes a dubious Everton throw in a big moment in the game, where it shouldnt be.

No doubt that bad decisions can cost you games, but this is our excuse every single week and to be honest im getting bored of listening to the same track.

If you think were loosing games solely down to reffereeing decisions then you need to stop being so niave and look at the bigger picture. We were to blame, we need to face the fact and improve collectively as a team if were to see ourselves move up ther table.

Ill probably get diced by the disillusioned 'die hard' but i am sick to death of all these dreamers on here!

Sam Adzii jft96


Eh we didnt lose??
RB


Sorry Sam , but I don't think we did lose yesterday ! Perhaps you were watching a different game .


Did we lose yesterday ?


We drew yesterday not lost it


We kept 3 clean sheets with the same defence line prior to yesterday's game, so how could you say we weren't defending well?! If anything, we were clearly missing Johnson, who would have checked Baines with his forward runs.

If you can't accept it, then p*ss off to another club! Sick of jokers like you!

Singred


And there was me thinking it was a draw......

Mrpjd


Just to point out we didn't lose yesterday. Nice try though.

Mighty reds


"But that wasnt the reason we lost yesterday"

We didn't lose. FACT


We are starting to score (which seems to be a problem last season), but u are right, we shouldnt concede in the first place.

Kaizer


Sorry!! Typo, a very embarassed Sam. Never the less, it felt like a loss and hypothtically it was 2 points lost.

Sam Adzii jft96


A draw with everton still feels like a defeat, and also the manner of it. i have no doubts that the coaching staff are looking over the errors we made defensively, however you cannot deny that if it weren't for inept refereeing, we would've won. Even Gary Nevill said "He bottled it."
derryred


Firstly, the ref did had a hand in Ever ton's goal as the throw-in was not theirs..
Secondly , we don't blame refs every time we drop points..we blame poor finishing,poor defense or bad goalkeeping..we blame refs when they are to blame..
just 9 league matches and I can clearly remember three matches where we were completely robbed -West brom, United, everton.. A whole host of penalty or free kick decisions going against Suarez, playing 3-4 academy players..losing your first choice midfielder the only recognized striker apart from suarez, both experienced wing backs for few matches , your first choice GK now for a couple of weeks..
One of the toughest fixture list to start ..these are not excuses mate these are Facts..
I for one think we should rather make these referring complaints official and put more direct pressure on the FA rather than BR being too respectful to people who are clearly pathetic in their judgement , protect our players (suarez especially)from the media and show our powers as a big club..


 

 

29 Oct 2012 15:07:16
Did anyone notice lack of confidence/selfishness between Sterling and Suarez? They both are brilliant undoubtedly, but yesterday there were a couple of times when a pass to the other was definitely a better option.


I actually commented on this last week after the Reading match- whilst we expect the forwards to be selfish in front of goal BR should be telling them win the game first before going for personal glory.


It was the same in the cup against the russians


 

 

29 Oct 2012 15:04:13
The linesman has admitted he's mistake today.


Not much good now- if he wasn't 100% sure yesterday (as evidenced by the delay in raising the flag) the he shouldn't have given offside


 

 

29 Oct 2012 14:48:17
If you want to see a dive check out Jeronimo for Adelaide United VS Wellington Phoenix in the A League this past weekend. Would have won gold in the London Olympics with it.

Cruddy officiating wordlwide it seems. Like cricket has done football needs to get ex-players into referee and linesman positions. ANd the sooner the tech comes in the better. {Ed052's Note -


 

 

29 Oct 2012 14:17:54
I think everyone has missed how superb Joe Allen was yesterday, sahin and gerrard can't run. Allen man marked fellaini the whole game and the only time felliani touched the ball was after he'd kicked Allen to the floor. as for the Suarez 'tackle' on distan, he slipped watch the replays and youll see the pitch fall apart on his back foot. Osman's tackle on sterling was worse because 1, it was on purpose and 2, he was wearing a blue shirt! Rodgers got his tacticks perfect apart from assiadi didn't play and wisdom had a shocker admittedly against their best player on the day. Thoughts please people.
Liam {Ed052's Note - I agree with everything you say Liam}


Cheers ed.
Liam


Rodgers picked Sahin ahead of Shelvey for a Merseyside derby , that was a massive mistake , apart from that he was spot on .


On purpose or not, only Suarez will know i guess, but normally on replays u can see whether it was intentional or not, the look on their faces, the way it happens n stuff like that. i do however, deem it as not on purpose, from watching it back a few times.

Kaizer


And allen did not shy away from the big lump he kept at him again and again hes got plenty of fight in him and will be a great player for us.
RB


Shelvey does not have self control he dives in with out thinking which makes him a dangerous player to have in your team potential red cards.ynwa


 

 

29 Oct 2012 14:24:32
{Ed052's Note - I have just posted a much requested profile on Tomer Hemed on the player profile site at; http://player-profiles.co.uk/tomer-hemed.php

He is a player who Liverpool have had watched and seem to have interest in, so please drop a comment, a question and please do request a profile.

Thanks}


 

 

29 Oct 2012 13:53:02
come on guys cheer up ole luis had a little joke with moyes i remember a player who did a lap of the field smacking his head and the same player made gestures with the white line, but he is still god to many of us if not all of us, so i say well done luis had a great game that we should have won it for us.
And the poor ole bitters have to come on here and pretend to red just to slate luis, i think the really believed it was their day and we had to spoil it on them but chins up blue boys you,ll get another chance at anfield.
RB


Even moyes laughed afterwards when asked about Suarez's celebration.

Kaizer


 

 

29 Oct 2012 13:51:47
Anyone take 10m bid if came in for Stevie in Jan? Not sure we need him anymore, great player though he's been {Ed052's Note - If we got 10m then I will win the lottery. We would never get that sort of fee unfortunately}


Can I ask you a question.

Are you suggesting the reason we drew the game was because of Steven Gerrard?

Which midfielder in the current squad is better than he is?

Sam armchair!


You ppl are a disgrace..demeaning a great servant of the club...10M.. ridiculous...he has carried this team on his for many years..and now that he is having a bit of a bad spell..you guys want to sell him..wasnt he the one who set up suarez for the 2nd goal..and the goal that was disallowed...who took that free kick...and one more thing who was the only player for liverpool who scored against utd....sell steve..huh!!
Shayan


With fans like yous, Gerrard should've got off years ago. Luckily he knows I amongst many others appreciate what he's done for us over the years and stayed put. Honestly compared to other team's fans on the web Liverpool have some of the most disloyal, knee jerkin sons of bitchrs ever. Luckily the closest folks with that mindset get to watch us is with a really good broadband connection and wee bit of streaming. Not in real life thank God.
JohnBoy


Yeah all of them..like henderson...downing...or sahin who was anonymous during the game...


Would not sell him no


10m plus 7+m a year saved in wages.
We should of sold him just before his injurys about 18m to 2 years ago for 40m and reinvested it.
he's been injured most of that time and has done little when fit.

MIKEY


There are no sentiments in the game. It is about Liverpool, not the player. Gerrard should have been sold to Mourinho 3 years ago, he wanted him for 30m+.
A great servant but I think he would have understood if we got 30m.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 13:50:14
I really don't see why anyone would want to sell Henderson.

He is young and can definitely make a positive contribution to the club now and in the future. Particularly with us short on numbers and Gerrard's powers clearly on the wane in anything other than a 'big game', and especially in his favoured midfield role.

Henderson has plenty of positives to his game, clearly has a decent attitude, 'cares' and tries his damnedest and will doubtless only improve.

Give the lad some support!

The Squirrel


I agree

Kaizer


I do as-well.

Really rate Jordan.

Lee YNWA


I like Henderson but if we signed a player to improve the squad even more instead of him then surely that's best for the club.

Mighty reds


I cant see how someone could buy Henderson either!


 

 

29 Oct 2012 13:46:23
Hi Eds just a quick question we all know BRs prefered formation is mix between 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 but my question is when lucas returns he will surely getinto the team cos we need him to break up play..and if a striker is bought to help Luis in January what system do you think BR will play as he cannot play lucas allen sahin gerrard shelvey in the same team and i do not think luis a number 10 like suso to create play..yes luis wants to be in the all the action going forward for us but i dont see him as a winger either...he is hot and cold in front of goal but in my opinion i would leave him up front.

So my questions are:


1. what formation do you think will be our 1st option?

2. Lucas will start in the DM rolebut who will partner him in there?

3. If a striker is bought in to help Luis where does this player or luis play?


Also I was thinking about this for a while and what do you these formations!


..............................Reina..................................

.....Johnson..............Skrtel...................Agger.......

..............................Lucas.................................

................Gerarrd....................Allen...................

..............................Sahin..................................

...Sterling.............................................Assaidi....

..............................Suarez................................


OR


...............................Reina.................................

...Johnson.................Skrtel......................Agger...

..................Gerrard...............Lucas.....................

...............................Allen.................................

...Sterling.................Suarez.....................Assaidi..

..............................Striker?..............................

Suso, Shelvey, Coates, Sahin, could all fit the formation

So what do you Eds and Scousers think? {Ed052's Note - I dont think either of those formations are that likely. I think he will stay with the formation he has now, a 4, 3, 3. Lucas will sit with 2 midfielders with licence to go forward. Luis could come out wide to the wing as coul the new striker}


Ya thanks Ed for that...Lucas will start the DM role but he will start Allen so its toss up between Gerrard/Sahin/Shelvey...who would you start in the middle 3?

Sunny {Ed052's Note - No problem Sunny. And it will be Gerrard, Allen and Lucas I should think. And hopefully Sahin and Shelvey in the cups. With those two playing in the cups then we should get quite far in them!! And also, the players who are not in the first team will be able to use the extra matches to try to force themselves in to the first team}


.......................Reina.........................

Johnson....Skrtel........Agger....Left-Back

.................Allen.....Lucas..................

..........Suso..................Suarez...........

...............Striker.......Sterling..............

RedWisdom
YNWA JFT96


 

 

29 Oct 2012 13:42:24
Everyone slating Suarez yet again, why? It wasnt a sending off at all, get a grip! its becoming boring now, I think this country has started a hate campaign against him for some stupid reason! Yes he does dive but so do a lot of other players, but do they get the abuse that Suarez does... No! Come on people let it go! Suarez is the type of player you'd have in your team n you'd be a fool not to agree with me, the guy is world class! All of you hate him because he plays for Liverpool it's as simple as that! So you can all keep complaining on ur websites all you want to coz it doesn't make a blinds bit of difference

Liverpool fc robbed yet again by a linesman who said when asked by gerrard ...." was it offside? " n he replied " I think so!" ......great officiating as usual that again has screwed us !!!

Ack17


 

 

29 Oct 2012 13:30:39
After Mark Clattenburg's performance Alex Ferguson has made it clear Howard Webb will have to fight for his 1st team place!


Howard Webb was sold and they bought Halsey and Clattenburg this year. You missed the transfer period.
Webb is a free agent now.


A boy walks in a sport shop and asks for Man Utd jersey and the shopkeeper asks " which top do u want the home or away or the refs jersey...... Lol Kenyan kop


 

 

29 Oct 2012 13:25:55
Does anybody know what the closing music at the end of episode 6 of being Liverpool is?


Going down, going down, going down, going down, or something along them lines, this so called revolution under brenda will be nothing but a bottom half finish, and everybody knows it


More "obsessed with liverpool" posting. whether in darker moments or in light, i always have something better to do than go onto another side's websites to leave postings. get yourself a life you silly little man.

everything rosey at yr own club squire?


Yep, 5th in the league on a shoestring budget watching our neighbors spend over £150m in less than 2 years and havnt got the quality we have, the league will show at the end of the season


You couldnt even beat a team with several kids in it ye quality my arse


The music is Status quo. Down down deeper and down.


Didnt realise the season finished on the 29th of october and 9 games into the season, sums up the mentality of everton and there fans, you said the league will show at the end of the season, possibly the smarted sentence you have said


 

 

29 Oct 2012 13:15:08
For everyones interest King Kenny Dalglish is Live on the Keys and Gray show on this week. Possibly Thursday morning I think.


Will anyone outside Scotland understand what he says?


 

 

29 Oct 2012 13:05:54
well ed. what do you think of sahin so far this season? do you think it would b worth trying to buy him nxt summer? {Ed052's Note - Hia mate. I think he has been up and down. It hard physical games, e.g. Stoke, Everton etc I think that he has struggled. Hoewever, when we get the ball down and start playing then he is brilliant. I would do anything to sign him in the summer}


No don't buy up to what seen so far anyhow


 

 

29 Oct 2012 12:55:58
Brenda Rodgers saying we kept on thumping the ball in the box and that they deserved the win, here is some stats for Brenda

- Everton shots 17 (8 on target)
- Liverpool shots 12 (5 on target)
- Everton 55% possession, Liverpool 45% possession
- Everton completed passes 459
- Liverpool completed passes 428
- % of long balls by Everton: 14%
- & of long balls by Liverpool: 17%

You were saying Brenda?


Yes but can I just say who were the home team, surely you expect better stats then that from a home team ?


Look Brenda? How long did it take the evertonian to come up with that one? If you want to look at stats be my guest, but anyone could see yesterday that all Everton did was ping the ball to either jelavic and Fellaini and let them hold it up. The only decent player you had on the pitch was Mirallas (the lads a talent). And don't worry I'm sure "Brenda" will be quite satisfied by the fact that he has equalled Moyes' trophy cabinet in his first few months here. AsianRed


I thought we had 4 shots each on target.


But thats not the point, brenda and gerrard both called everton a long ball team when the stats clearly showing everton played the more football, more passing, more possession and more chances, so why did they even bother when they hadnt looked at the stats {Ed052's Note - 67% of stats are made up. Never trust stats}


Hey another fact for you. We scored 3 goals and you scored two. Unfortunately one was dashed out by a terrible decision that is why we deserved to win the game.

JD


School of ariel science-advising NASA-hoooooffff. Most home teams win territory Stats


Most important Stat. Everton 2 Liverpool 3.
You were helped by a dubious decision by the assistant.


I think you'll find the reason we played more long balls yesterday was because we had Jones in goal who isn't as comfortable on the ball as reina. Had reina been in goal I believe that percentage would be lower.


Boo f**king hoo we got robbed blah blah blah, you could have won the game but your still crap and will struggle to make top 10 this season


Funny you say Brenda matched Moyes trophy record....good thing is he'll still be equal with him in 5 years time. Have a nice day


Never mind coming out with a b******* loada bulls*** stats haha watch the game yous know your just a long ball team,ive never had so much fun reading these posts by all these unsigned bitters,the only reason they dont sign off is cos they know they will get found out and end up havin to change there sign off names to hide there embaressment,such a pity the liner bottled it cos it would of only been even funnier watchin yous shower of bitters still goin on about finishing in 7th heaven last season,i mean wasnt even enough to get yous in europe,but lets have it right yous never really get past the 3rd round anyway in the couple of chances youve had......
rodger the dodger


Everstoke!

Lyndon


 

 

29 Oct 2012 12:55:23
hi eds reds everyone is talking about suarez and what he did and didnt do etc. if he deliberetly caught distin on purpose it was wrong, equally osman catching stirling in the same place , on purpouse , just not as badly as stirling was quicker , but nothing said about that ! fellani repeatedly fouling joe allen , in particular kicking him in the ribs while allen was on the floor!! nothing said about that- disgraceful !! i disagree with some of what suarez does , and he is his own worst enemy at times , but even handeness and fairness must prevail , but clearly it isnt !! this must be delt with.as for the performances i honestly feel gerrard shoukld play the sitting role now. as skretel and agger split , to have gerrard sitting inbetween them with pasinng and tackling ability still in tact , i think he would be great there. leave the running etc to allen , henderson and shelvey. we really neeed a goal poacher though , but somebody who is very mobile and can help suarez out with the closing down of the opposistion up top , suarez cant be expected to do it all on his own as much as he tries to and ends up knackered!! walcott in a more central role? sturridge? to lazy i think, unless we play with one main striker and three behind him, suarez and two either side of him , then two behind them in front of the back four as citeh did last season maybe that would work for us? come on redmen! godbless96 sreviep62.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 12:49:53
Lucas's game is based on positional sense & well timed tackles. People have to give Lucas time to gain momentum & time his tackles. I'm just getting people prepared because we all know how negative & unrealistic the posters can be on this site. A well oiled in form Lucas walks into this team. But one returning from 2 long lay offs will be on the bench. Starting Europa & Carling Cup until he is ready.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 12:39:54
Steven Gerrard did not hold back in his assessment of the decision that cost Liverpool a memorable derby win on Sunday - and launched a fierce defence of would-be match-winner Luis Suarez.


The Goodison clash was tied at 2-2 until Suarez smashed home a Sebastian Coates knock-down in injury time.

The Uruguayan began to celebrate only to have his joy turn to despair at the sight of an offside flag.

Replays showed the goal was not offside.

Gerrard told the Echo: "I've seen it again and we can feel sorry for ourselves because it was a clear goal.

"We should be taking away the three points rather than just one. There is no offside and it's difficult for me to explain it. The only person who can explain it is the linesman.

"I asked him after the game if it was offside and he said 'I think so'. That's not good enough. If every decision in this league is based on 'We think so' then we're in trouble.

"The linesman got it badly wrong. The benefit of the doubt is supposed to go to the attacking player anyway.

"And for their second goal, it's a clear throw-in to us. The linesman gives us the throw but the referee (Andre Marriner) saw something different. He gave Everton the throw and their second goal came from that.

"I feel sorry for our lads because I thought we were fantastic today and deserved to win.

"We had a young, small team out there but they were all men today and stuck together. There was one team here who came to play football and win the game and that was us."

The enthralling encounter was punctuated with controversy, including a dive by Phil Neville which earned him a yellow card.

Neville apologised afterwards but the incident left a bitter taste for Gerrard in light of pre-match comments from the Everton camp about Suarez.

Gerrard added: "His manager did every paper, every radio station and every TV channel talking about Luis Suarez and then his captain, who is meant to be setting an example, blatantly dives.

"With what he said about Luis Suarez before, David Moyes was trying to get in the referee's head, which is fine, that's all part of the game, stuff like that, but you don't expect your captain to dive like that.

"Luis Suarez was fantastic for us again today. I can't control what he does when he scores a goal, I was just happy to see it hit the back of the net. He doesn't need David Moyes to fire him up. But if people want to try to get in Luis's head and wind him up then it's the wrong thing to do.

"You saw from today's evidence that it seems to inspire him rather than go against him."

Liverpool went 2-0 up early in the game before Everton seized the momentum to level ahead of the break.

Brendan Rodgers made two substitutions at the interval, reverting to three centre-backs and moving Raheem Sterling to a central position behind Suarez.

Gerrard was impressed.

"I think it was an off-the-cuff decision and credit to the manager for that," he said.


"That's one of the reasons why he got the Liverpool job. He's capable of making big decisions at big times.

"Everton were very direct in the first half and were getting on the second balls. The plan in the second half was to go 3-5-2 and try to stop the long balls coming in.

"Once we stopped that we passed through Everton and looked very dangerous on the break."


 

 

29 Oct 2012 12:36:57
Few persons having a go at Suarez this morning , I dont understand why, surely they can't be our own supporters.
For those having a go because of the simulated dive, need to develop a sense of humor , most of us watching found it funny, the TV pundits
found it funny, even Moyes said he did n't mind it and he would've done the same to him.
For those having a pop because of his tackle on Distin , I personally think it was an accident, he acknowledge it more or less straight away, put his arm up wand went to check on Distin.
He accepted his yellow card without any argument. Unlike Fellaini who kicked Allen whilst on the floor and did n't even get a talking to.
Roy


Agree mate Suarez get a'lot of stick weather he plays a great game or not but we need to back the little gem cause he is one of the best in the team he didn't mean the tackle on distin i think that his actions after was good, clam and sorry it was there for everyone to see


Roy i am 63 years of age and been to nearly 1,500 games home and abroad so yes i think that counts me as a fan, what Suarez did is shocking to there defender and was no accident he did something similar to mirallas so dont say it was an accident, i want us to play football the right way and remember the days we were respected all over europe, Suarez is bringing the club down to a low with is antics, he is a great player when he wants to play i just dont like the nasty side about him.


How have managed to reach 63 without knowing your own name? People like you are the blight on this site not having the guts or decency to sign your posts. If you have seen 1500 matches then you have also seen a lot of nasty fouls and nasty players. The fact is that everything that Suarez does is blown out of all proportion although these things have been done by other players in the past and will be done by other players in the future. Did you make any comment when Huth stood on Suarez a few weeks ago? I doubt it although we will never know because even if you did you wouldn't have signed it even with a user-name like I have. I may be right or I may be wrong in what I post but at least you know who to criticise if you do not agree.
Ben Terug


When Shelvey makes similar kind of celebration to criticise the refs and FA, no one objects. Suarez has been suffering from xenophobic media/ref/FA and a section of our own fans.


Mostly bitters pretending to be reds, small club supporters with a jealousy complex.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 12:34:55
I cant believe people are actually giving suarez stick for the challenege on distin! You lot are a bunch of girls! If that happened o me i would just get up and not complain as it is part of playing football. You cant expect to not get hurt, this is football not cricket!

Hounsred


So if distin did it to suarez would you not moan about it then hmmm


Osman did the exact same thing to Sterling


No we wouldn't moan. If the player is still on the pitch we don't want game changing decisions. It wasn't a foul for a red card. We see this almost 10 times in each game.


To the post above, distan didnt even moan about, the only reason everyone is talking about is cos that gobrubbishe moyes cant stop talking about suarez, fergies little puppet is obsessed with our luis


 

 

29 Oct 2012 12:25:27
Yesterday derby was one of the best interms of entertainment. The way Suarez dived infront of moyes that was hilarious haha moyes will never forget that celebration in his life and that was official dive. Before the game moyes talks how Suarez dives and we should get rid of him blah blah then philip Nevile makes fool of moyes by diving and getting booked for it again before the game moyes talks how Derbies has been unfair to them then our goal is disallowed when asked by media he looked dumb had to answer that goal should have stood. All in all Moyes will never Forgert thise derby.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 12:24:16
how come liverpool have been so good this year!!
ahaha.


you might even get top half if your lucky :)



coombesy


Legendary bit of banter there. Lol
Some banter cuts deep, some bruises, some grazes. That was the equivalent of a kiss on the cheek.

MIKEY


Cutting. Ouch...


 

 

29 Oct 2012 12:20:55
Hi,to all my fellow liverpool supporters,i know we were robbed of the three points but what has been done has been done and there is nothing we can do about it,even if we moan from now till tomorrow it remains the same,as for me yesterday,where i was watching the match with all sorts of fans including neutrals and liverpool supporters,everyone agreed that it was a goal and i was left dumbfounded after the decision of the linesman but now i have made up my mind about the result and move on.This brings me to the other part which would cheerup your minds,i would like to know from my fellow supporters when they started supporting liverpool.As for me,i started supporting liverpool during the inception of the rafa era when we won the champions league on that famous night though i was formerly an arsenal fan.The story about my love for liverpool goes thus.while i was still in secondary school,watching the competition was interesting but i developed special love for two clubs(liverpool and juventus) at the tournament.At the time,i told my friends that i would love one of those clubs to win the tournament and as you know the rest was history relating to both clubs meeting at the latter stages,and then i thought what a coincidence of two of my favourite teams facing each other.There and then,i decided to support any of them all the way that makes it,and as you know liverpool won.On the night of the final,watching milan go three nil up so early was hard to swallow but then,i had that feeling that we can still equalize the game,as we found out in the second half the liverpool spirit of never say die emerged and the rest was history.So ladies,gentlemen,boys and girls that is how my liverpool story started.p.s,i am a nigerian and you will understand what i meant by secondary school,though im in my final year in the university.thanks for reading.


I stopped reading when you said you used to be an arsenal supporter but changed to Liverpool when we won the champions league.
NotInTheKnow


I'm sorry mate , the co lour of my blood was red since I was born..
No offense but you cannot be a true supporter if you were of arsenal previously..
I like Bayern Munich a lot but there is only one club that matters..


 

 

29 Oct 2012 12:11:55
Moyes=I previously regarded very highly. Cheap shots before Derby and now after. Smacks of Fergie-ism creeping up on him. With touch of the see no evil-Wengers re.Neville. LOst all repect for the bloke


 

 

29 Oct 2012 12:06:09
Gutted about yesterday. We deserved the win simply because we scored more than them in particular. That last goal was a joke.

Suarez was a class act all game. I think the tackle on distin was nasty but I don't think it was intentional. I think he was just changing direction to run past him. Can we all say we have never caught someone else on back of the foot like that when playing by accident?

The ref was poor way to many yellow cards. Listening to all the whining from everton players everytime a LFC player went down. And then the disallowed goal.

jd


 

 

29 Oct 2012 11:44:56
Hi eds, not been on for a while as ive had probs with my comp, however i have a thought about the 2 games yesterday. suarez had a goal ruled out for apparent offside and the mancs won with one which was clearly offside, in european matches the use of the extra officials on the goal line is being used wouldnt it be time for this to be used in epl games that way mistakes like this should be eradicated, as the way i see it the linesman is basically too far from the action to be able to correctly make decisions in a packed penaltly area. they make enough incorrect decisions on offsides and free kicks as it is. the game has speeded up over the last few years and better technology should be looked at.
thanks billy


 

 

29 Oct 2012 11:44:33
I really can't wait for the second coming of Lucas.
Our puzzle has 2 missing pieces and he is one of them.

MIKEY {Ed052's Note - Yes mate, he will be a key player when he comes back. I would say it will hopefully only be around 3 weeks more now}


Who do expect him to replace though ed?
NotInTheKnow {Ed052's Note - Probably Sahin mate. Then Gerrard and Allen can get forward more. That will mean that Sahin and Shelvey will be able to play all cup games which will mean we will get a long way in the cups}


I think when Sahin gets fully up to speed Gerrard will be the one to lose place, at least in midfield anyway. I don't think he came to sit on the bench.

GuvTOB


You cant look ahead like that Guv lad-morons on here will slag you to death. Thats part of whats wrong with LFC-nostalgia-people on here will pick Jimmy Case


 

 

29 Oct 2012 11:40:33
Seems to me Managers are afraid of Suarez. Before the game Moyes went into great detail about Suarez diving and loss of respect for football. After the game he could only talk of the foul by Suarez and little mention of diving. Neville didn't dive of course; his was "simulation" and excusable. At Stoke Pulis went on about the Suarez dive saying there should be retrospective punishment. Both dives were as pathetic as the other and Suarez got the yellow card just like Neville did so why no hue and cry over Neville? Pulis sought to deflect the attention from Huth treading on Suarez chest so had to focus on something else.
It seems other Managers will look for anything done by Suarez; so are they scared of his talent? In my opinion he isn't perfect but he can be the victim as much as the offender and there should be some balance in the reporting as far as he is concerned.

I think Rogers is doing well not to make quotes that can come back at him later. If Moyes is interviewed again, will he still make the same comments about diving? What will Pulis say when a Stoke player is booked for diving?
Kev1950


 

 

29 Oct 2012 11:21:44
Suarez knew what he was doing when he tackled Distin, it was awful. Diving around in front of opposing managers is not the Liverpool way either. Our owners will not tolerate this behaviour. He should be ashamed of both instances. These players are not needed in our game.


I was at the game yesturday and all the older fans were saying the same it was a disgrace what he did and that challenge on there defender was shocking { how edd sayes its ok has shocked me to and i have lost credit with what you now say now } but the younger fans think it was great what he did. We have had some great number 7 in the past but after Suarez as gone what will we remember him for think about it and be honest. {Ed052's Note - haha its ok mate, its only an opinion!!}


IT'S JUST A GAME {Ed052's Note - No mate, its more than just a game}


Dnt talk daft mate that's the way 2 do it mouzeyz comments about him were a disgrase surez got his point across the scouse style nice an cheeky dats the Liverpool way post tha fazak l f c + we can hold r heads up high 4 yesterday brilliant keep it up


Lets have some balance shall we? Considering he was the biggest player on the park Fellaini went down very easily, it's just not highlighted because he's not a striker.


The only problem is that Suarez is in the media spotlight at the moment. It's incredible that the only headline regarding yesterday's game on the BBC website is the comment from Moyes that Suarez should have gone for that challenge - an opinion. No mention of the injustice at the end - a fact. Watching football just this week I've seen players diving and crafty fouls all over the place. No one gives a damn when it's a european team - it's seen as how the game is. The issue now is that Suarez needs to stay squeaky clean until he has shaken off the lazy journalists.


I agree the tackle on distin was bad. But for what he done in front if moyes you really need to get a sense of humour. Theres nothing wrong with taunting rival managers and players. It might teach people like moyes and pullis to keep there mouth shut next time.

Gaz


Ed0052 is the most childish edd out there at least the other edds are honest and dont act like childish little kids and tell the truth, haha thats just my opinion tho edd0052. {Ed052's Note - fair enough my friend, that is your opinion. }


If Moyes you or anyone else thinks Suarez diving in front of Moyes is wrong then think about it, would not have happened if Moyes had not opened his mouth about it before [affecting ref?].


Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Mine is that it wasn't a foul on Distin. Suarez anticipated the backpass to the keeper and changed direction. His left foot planted was being planted to change momentum, but it just happened to be in the same area of Distin trailing leg.
As for some callin him a disgrace. Can't see many LFC fans saying that. Much the same way the Utd fans wouldn't have a bad word against Ronaldo or Chelski fans love Terry.
The goal celebration was CLASS and taken as banter by Moyes who said he would probably even have done the same.
The opinion of Suarez isn't about how old you are. I'm 37 and love the fact that he plays for us.
My complaints about yesterdays gameare...........Our goal not given due to offside................no mention of Phil Neville's dive and no mention of Fallaini kicking Joe Allen in the chest while he was on the floor..........


Everton fan here, i think the Suarez dive in front of moyes was funny and made me and loads of fans laugh at the time but tho other side of the bloke was terrible in the challenges on Mirallas and Distin there is know douht the lad as bags and bags ot talent just needs to cut the ugly side of his game out, that first half yesturday was nuts and had some great footie in it 2nd half was crap tho, your stirling and wisdom lads look good players for the future.


I know everyone is entitled to there opinion and my opinion is ed0052 your an absolute legend my friend, keep up the good work mate {Ed052's Note - Well thank very much. Your cheque is in the post haha}


 

 

29 Oct 2012 11:20:20
I know there is a lot of talk saying Torres should not have been sent off last night, he may have got a small amount of contact but he did still dive to try and get a free kick.
The contact was no more than a tickle on the shin With a little toe and Torres did a "saving private Ryan" style dive.
No sympathy from me, get off.
If anything both players should have got yellow cards but in these cases it usually goes to one or the other.

A lot of work needs to be done to sort out the grey areas in the sport, make it a lot fairer, sort out the dives and we need video technology. Then these respect campaigns might have some purpose, why bother asking players to clean up their acts when the FA, and the referees are completely useless, actually that might be a bit unfair refs do a half decent job half the time. It's just frustrating how they don't have full benefit of all the technology the studios use to pick apart their performances.
If we had video technology the pundits in the studios wouldnt have half as much to talk about (a very good thing) they can then use the time to talk about the positives in the sport and the supporters will have a lot less to moan about and all in all everyone is a lot happier.

MIKEY


The thing is Mikey the contact with Ashley Young was even less, both players were running and came in each others way .. In the Torress case Evans was on the ground sticking his leg out .... You can't have it one way and not the other ..
Roy


I didn't even mention Ashley young mate. I was talking about Torres.

MIKEY


Mikey,
I understand you did n't mention Ashley Young but your post echos what Fergie said after the game, about it being minimal contact and therefore Torres should've carried on and by falling to the ground it was a dive and the referee was right to book him. My point Ivanovic touch on Ashley was even more delicate in a situation were both players were running for the ball and contact was unavoidable , Ashley went to the ground, so according to Fergie's explanation, Ashley should've been booked and Chelsea would have kept their 11 at the time.
I think Ivanovic was right to be sent off, and Torres should've got his foul , there is nothing in the rule book about minimal contact, if there is contact then its a foul, the level of contact just determine the level of punishment no card, yellow or red card. But as we have seen in the last few years, rules are determined by which club the offender is playing for.
Roy


Tell you what fella you come running at me and i will give you a little kick on the shin and see how you react ! Torres wants to score goals do you think he was going to go down with only rio to beat dont thinks so he has done rio many times for pace


 

 

29 Oct 2012 11:13:00
In my opinion we need 3 quality players:

A traditional number 10...
A striker...


We can sell:
Spearing 2 million
Carrol 17 million
Downing 6 million
Hend 8 million

If I was in BR I would try and sign:
Erricksen 17 million
Daimoa 20 million

I don't think we need sahin permanently neither plus I don't think we need a left back as Johnson has done well plus Enrique and Robinson looks very good. In my opinion that would also leave us with nothing to do for next summer neither with sterling suso etc a year older. {Ed052's Note - Unfortunately mate thats just a bit too much of a fantasy happening}


Agree don't need Sahin {Ed052's Note - If we dont have Sahin thought, we would be short in midfield}


No Ed we wouldnt Stevie, Hendo,Allen, Shelvey,coates can,Coady,thats before count wingers {Ed001's Note - Coates? Not a chance, Sahin would be a damn good signing.}


Sahins turn this week now to get abuse, what is wrong with some of our fans


Poster above abuse?? How? its opinion, no ones abused him too much watching of Panorama re Newsnight for some on here


 

 

29 Oct 2012 11:06:22
i think the the lines man should be demoted or some kind of punishment i think he knew what he was doing he even waited for suarez to celebrate and then put up his flag {Ed052's Note -


Bang on-dark F.A forces with anti Suarez agenda at work


 

 

29 Oct 2012 11:05:04
Hia Ed,

Do you think that Torres may be an option to return and do you rate him still?

Cheers {Ed052's Note - Hi mate. He isn't an option no, and I am not too sure that he would want to return anyway. He is getting older, would command a high transfer fee and higher wages then you would ever imagine. And would I want him back, no. Do I rate him? NO!! However, as a Chelsea fan mate of mine put it, Torres is actually having a very good season. Apparently he is creating loads of gaps for the other attacking players to run into, but thats only because he tries to run away from the box so he cannot fluff another chance!! So no, Ir really dont want him back}


I still say Torres was our most successful transfer in and out.
Bought him for 20+m
Got a few amazing seasons and tons of goals out of him.
Sell him for 50m as soon as his legs go.
We should sell all our top stars as soon as they hit their peek, Let their legs go on someone else's pitch.
Can you imagine the Torres of old in our team right now though?
We never really replaced him and we need a Torres type player in our team to put away the tons of chances.

MIKEY


Torres is awful slow now though compared to when he was lighting up Anfield. As I always say about players who are mostly reliant on pace, when the speed goes, what are you left with?

Mantis


 

 

29 Oct 2012 10:47:26
hi eds good morning to you all

I would just like to say i havent seen a player wind up the opposition managers as much before a ball is even kicked since maradona did. im not saying suarez is as good as maradona but i feel they fear him i think purple nose would have him arrested and put in the tower of london if he could .remember drogba doing his dive in front of rafa same situation there was hardly a word on it. was golem calling for ronaldo to stop diving before they played utd years ago no he wasnt because he is angling for purple nose job a long with mark lawrenson who is having another i love sir alex day today in the mirrior like c;mon he is trying to say fergie out thought chelsea yesterday nothing to do with the usual help from the refs. howard webb must be very worried about he place in the man utd side after that display from clattenburg.Tommy Irish Red


It's usually a good thing if you have a player everyone hates, like ronaldo at united. But let's be honest he was/is a brilliant player.

MIKEY


Same with Cantona tbh


 

 

29 Oct 2012 10:45:43
Hey guys,
Just seen a repeat of the Suarez disallowed goal...
If you happen to see it, watch the linesman. The linesman waits at least 5 seconds after the ball hits the back of the net. Absolute disgrace! This is happening way too often to happen by chance..
I say Rodgers does a King Kenny and pays a visit to talk about these outrageous decisions..
DublinRed.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 10:28:19
So the pro Man Utd and anti-Liverpool conspiracy continues.. The Referees decision making is so disturbingly dodgy.. Oh yeah and why don't we have goal line technology? if we did games wouldn't be so easily manipulated by Fergies secret Police.. Man Utd will win the title, and I can bet you every single decision (as usual) will go there way.. Agree if you think there is something going on.. Albino Penguin


It's a real shame for united fans that they could not emulate our success properly. We did it the right way, they did it through a whiskey nosed drunk, who's a cheat and has ruined the premier league. Go to Italy where you belong Alex ferguson (why the hell was he knighted?).


There is nothing to agree or disagree mate..the whole world knows it..
They can put it on their official site and still the FA wont have the balls to say anything..
The moment rednose felt suarez is a threat he started that anti - suarez campaign ..and obviously we played our part of not actively challenging against this wrong doing..
I'm pretty sure had it been any other country all other clubs would fight for justice rather than respecting bribed referees ..


Ever since sky came in. i naively hope and prey it''ll come out in time and like lance armstrong they'll have those titles deducted for cheating and corruption in the future. being deluded i guess.

FACT: english football is corrupt. never should we assume it's an italian football thing exclusively. it's been happening here for years.

manchester united fc = macdonalds, tesco and starbucks.


Correct, best of the lot.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 10:08:32
Hi eds, are or have we ever had any intrest in the following players...

Wissam Ben Yedder 22

Ádåm Szalai 24

Mario Mandžukić 26

Thankyou for all your time and hard work

OxRED {Ed052's Note - Not as far as I am aware my friend, atleast not recently if we ever have had interest in them}


 

 

29 Oct 2012 09:56:44
Please, please, Mr Rodgers have a word with Suarez. He must be the most hated player in the premiership and his antics are not needed in the game.


What i love the way he is hated it means that he is doing something right to be hated remember fowler and the abuse he used to get from other fans granted he could stay on his feet a little more but i love the guy and so should you if your a liverpool fan


Suarez is an absoloutely legend. If someone talks smack about you, you have the right to retaliate. Suarez did it in a humorous manner and if anything that should make him look better...especially for all fifa fans (if you know what I'm talking about)


A lot of people actually like Suarez but won't admit it. That dive yesterday was quality!

People wouldn't give him abuse if he wasn't as good as he is as well.


Most hated player ha (Ballotelli)


 

 

29 Oct 2012 09:58:51
Again by Rodgers, another brilliant move going 3-5-2. We were VERY dangerous on the break. In my opinion, he's a genious.

HullRED


 

 

29 Oct 2012 09:52:08
Why was Jones playing ahead of Reina yesterday? The punch out for Evertons first goal was awful! Also tell Enrique to grow his hair back, a baldy does not suit him at all! Last of all, Suarez was very luck to stay on yesterday, that tackle on Distin was terrible. {Ed052's Note - 1) Reina is awful when the ball is in the air. All Everton did was swing the ball into the box, and Jones dealt with about 95% of them, Reina I am sur would have made more mistakes. 2) Enrique was hopeless yesterday and needs more hair. 3) I think he slipped and did it by accident. And even if it was on purpose, how many times did Fellani just foul Allen for a laugh!!}


Ed u are a 1st class top hate mate, Fellaini didn't rake his studs dwn his legs or nothing malicious. And Suarez blatantly did mean it, how can u say he slipped, he is a horrible rat and his attitude is disgraceful I do not no how ur fans can continue to back him {Ed052's Note - haha mate, I still dont think Suarez did anything that bad, and its the derby, you have to be a strong man and put yourself about. If Distin cannot deal with Suarez then he shouldn't be playing. And Fellani was kicking Allen to pieces all match.}


I think a fit Lucas could have handle Fellani better..SAM


Ed im with you my personal favourite was when fellaini manhandled allen and still managed to get the free kick, maybe allen didn't let fellaini kick him hard enough for the refs liking. sterling and suarez could've gone however fellaini and mirallas i also thought were pushing their luck. all in all it was a great advertisement for the premiership and i'm looking forwad to the reverse fixture, however ruling suarez goal out was an absolute disgrace.
derryred {Ed052's Note - It was actually one of the cleanest derbies in a while. All fouls were made with upper body contact really, and there were no diving tackles, so it was absolutely fine}


 

 

29 Oct 2012 09:52:06
I watched the game in local pub with some everton fans who I get on with, it was great banter between us all game n after game we had a chat saying fair result overall but we got robbed in end n should of won! But then one of there fans said something stupid..... He said that Rodgers is a bully? So I asked him to explain his weird comment! He just said that he finds him to be a bully n that was his excuse! What a strange comment to make? So me being drunk I said....if u think Rodgers is a bully? I could say that moyes is a bad managers coz he's not won a single trophy in 10 years at everton lol


Thank you for sharing. Great post!


Mind-blowing reading that one


Compelling, and rich.

Ash


Cool story.....needs more dragons


Excuse for what?


 

 

29 Oct 2012 09:49:36
I am a red but no doubt I will get lots of stick for my comments: Suarez is a fantastic footballer, a great player but we need to get rid of him. He is one the most hated players in the premiership and is turning our team the same. That tackle he done yesterday on Distin was awful, it was sly and he should have been sent off. Also, diving in front of opposing managers is not on, Rodgers should pull him aside and have a word. And dont forget he dives alot! As I said I will receive lots of stick but this is only my opinion. {Ed052's Note - You will get a lot of stick mate and I have to agree totally. To be honest, I dont think he purposely tried to catch Distin, I think that was a mistake. But if we got/get rid of Suarez we will be in a right pickle}


Well said mate, ed again with his blinkers on the top hat {Ed052's Note - Im just giving my opinion mate, and if Distin got hurt by Suarez then he shoudln't be playing in the derby. In that type of match you will be caught late, fouled, attacked etc, so what Suarez did was fine}


These two are not reds, and Im not going get into it way them. There looking for a bitter aand it aint me. Suarez is the man, get over it. Distin a big dafty if everton want to kick lumps out us were going do the same back. Simples. YNWA

Scottybhoy1888


Suarez is turning in great displays day in day out gives one hundred per cent and really looks like he is the only one you really cares if we win or lose and you want him out have a good long look at yourself in the mirror


29 Oct 2012 10:35:28
How can you say that what Suarez done was fine - it was a nasty, sly tackle and he knew what he was doing. We need rid of these players in the Premiership {Ed052's Note - If he did it by accident then fine, its a mistake. If he didnt, then its fine as its the derby, those sort of things go on whether you like it of not. You have to let your opponents you are there. Anyway, I reiterate I believe it to be the former}


Suarez is world class. How many world class players want to come to liverpool not many at the moment. Liverpool is a better team with Luis and we need to support him like we do all our players. I think the tackle was a bit late but he never wanted to hurt him. Fellani was kicking Allen when he was on the floor thats miles worse. Fellani also kicked out at other players after the whistle had gone for free kicks. Suarez is one of the best players in the world and we need to keep hold of him as long as we can for us to get in the top 4 he is vital. As for Phil the diver Neville i think Tom Daley would have been proud.

Red raj


Suarez is the man. Listen to the 'motto' and it'll all become clear for you.


Blue nose wishful thinking


Ed your summing up of that foul is embarrassing, how is it fine? We'll have a game and I'll do it to you then and see if its a foul then shall we? {Ed052's Note - I wouldn't mind if you did that to me mate. And anyway, its a derby, you should expect a few tasty fouls. What Suarez did was just as bad as what Everton had been doing all game}


I remember Gatusso doing that all the time for AC Milan. The commentators used to call it a "professional foul". No way was it a red card

redkenyan


You say suarez should of walked, well then jagielka should of aswel, stop looking for excuses about luis just cos he tore your "brazil 1970" style team apart, more like wimbledon 1990s, get a grip you blue-s, you slate our team but in the end you lot where lucky to get a point on your own turf, golems face was a picture in the interview afterwards having to talk about that serial diver p neville


 

 

29 Oct 2012 09:44:30
I'd like to congratulate Brendan Rodgers. After less than half a season in charge he has already equalled Moyes' trophy haul from the past decade. Good job!

1970Red {Ed052's Note - haha, that made me laugh!!}


And spent more than he has in 1 summer


^ It has always amused me this idea that Moyes spends no money, Fellaini 14m, Yakubu 12M, not mention 10m+ on two players he let go for nothing in Jagielka and Baines.


Not our fault nobody wants to buy Everton. The stadium was probably taped up with masking tape to hide the rust.

Red raj


Brenda Rodgers will equal the same trophy haul if gets to stay in charge that long


 

 

29 Oct 2012 09:26:45
all you reds should be happy, a bottom half team coming to a top 4 side and getting a draw, well played, ha ha


Everybody knows who got the draw thanks to a certain linesman.you bitters make me laugh.


Suarez`s teeth were indeed 3 yards offside !

Much love


29 Oct 2012 10:51:45
David Moyes does not even want to sign a new contract. What does that say about your rubbish club. I think if any half decent team came along he would be gone faster than flash Gordon.

Red raj


Bitters aka inferiors...come back when you've won something, not just finished above us


You can't hide the fact your crap and just use bitter blue to make you feel good


Makes me laugh, we finished 8th last season, got to 2 cup finals, winning 1, deemed nowhere near good enough and the biggest icon of our club lost his job because of it, yet everton finish 7th one place above us and the way they go on is there greatest ever achievement, now tell me who is the big club here!!! get over your jealousy bluenoses


 

 

29 Oct 2012 08:56:03
ok look we all know we should of got the 3 points yesterday, but were gonna have to take the draw and thats just how it goes sometimes but it was a good battling display aswell,its a pity cos i thought it was gonna be another 5-0er again, and it probably would of been if we hadnt slipped and let them back into it so quickly,but were definately movin in the right direction,when we got it down and played they couldnt get near us and had to resort to launchin long balls into "im sexy and i know it"(fellaini),we will start to break down the likes of your stokes and evertons of this world this season the boys are comin together now its there for all to see,i love the way br talks aswell,doesnt get bitter and twisted or seriously deluded like the bitterest of bitters skeleton face moyes,ill miss his derby interviews next year when hes gone to be honest, they always give me a little chuckle when i hear him trying to talk his team up haha
rodger the dodger


Suarez shouldn't have been on the pitch! There's the blue halfs reply to the red half having all three points!! You think liverpool are the only hard done by team? Grow a pair fella! !


Come on (neutral tranmere fan) everton were by far the better team and should have had 3/4 before the game finished, the free kick that led to the dissaloud goal was never a foul and gerrard should never have went down so easy against someone half his side , it just made him look weak. then suarez who scored should never have been on the pitch after 2 cowardly tackles on the ankle's of mirralas and distin


And Neville's impression of superman???


29 Oct 2012 10:52:38
Ok Mr Tranmere, so Everton should have scored 3 or 4 more, but why didn't they? I'm guessing it was because
our defending was too good, not because they had goals disallowed


The tranmere rovers fan made me laugh. What league are they in btw? We had a goal disallowed for no reason which means we should have won it. End of story...it doesn't matter who the better team is, we were robbed. Is that too hard to undersand?

Is it league 2? ...thought so {Ed052's Note - Erm, aint they in League 1 mate?}


Tranmere fan you fail to mention that evertons 2nd should never have happened as it should have been our throw in, and you say everton should have scored more, so should have liverpool for eg. when sterling shanked it 1 v1 with the keeper.
youre obviously not neutral as you only side with everton
NZL_red


Shouldnt of gone down so easily to a man half his size, REALLY!! joe allens about 3 foot 4 and fellani with that horrendous hair is about 8 foot 8, but all sideshow bob kept doing is falling over at every opportunity, stick to tranmere mate cos in john barnes and jason mcateer we trust!!


 

 

29 Oct 2012 08:07:45
Am I the only one who would be more than happy to have Torres back at Liverpool?


He isn't that good.


No there are some more persons out there like you.


Why do people want him back after he left us the way he did. MOVE ON.

Pork chop


Is it not a worry to you that he just isn't that effective anymore?


Torres is past it..... Chelsea will get rid of him as soon as they can get a replacement n take a huge loss on him, why would u want Torres back? Just move on from it....he showed his true colours when he left us..... Fact

Ack17


Why would he return anyway, he win win more trophys with chelsea than liverpool will win in the next 10 years


It doesn't bother me a jot how or when he left our club , life goes on , it does worry me that people with an obvious interest in LFC can't see that he is a now a shadow of the player that first joined us .

Do they think that if he came back he would cheer up and start playing well ?


I'd happily have him back if was as good as he used to be but he had lost all his pace.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 08:00:00
Guys we have to accept these decisions and take it on the chin as we know the big clubs get them all the time and maybe we must accept that we are not big no more! NorjeRed


Why didnt you just sign off bitter blue instead? i mean come on is that the best you can do lad? yas played alright yesterday,just be proud of the draw yas scraped and move on will ya.....
by the way,liked the way there was no bad chants of murderers or that rubbishe from the bitters,i hope that carry ons in the past now, so good on the blues for that, first time ive not heard that b******* at the derby for years
rodger the dodger


When Juventus were banished to a lower league, was it considered that they were no longer a big club? The institution that is LFC will always be big.


At least he's living in the real world roger! You may want to join him one day?


Rodger I am not a bitter blue just realistic yes we have history but so do lots of other teams and if it was not for everton i understand we would have no history! NorjeRed


 

 

29 Oct 2012 07:20:28
I like Henderson in right back, he should be kept, sell downing Reina Enrique cole carrol and spearing


More like we give Henderson, downing and Enrique more chances till jan. we see who takes them and that makes rogers job a lot easier. I can't see why everyone's jumping on the bandwagon and slating Enrique, he's good goin forward and so is Johnson which is exactly what we need. Wisdom is great but yesterday proved why Johnson and Enrique should still be our fullbacks. Henderson is sill young and has got all round ability but what is his position in the midfield? I can't halp but think his position in the squad would be better for a quality back up for Lucas (DM). Downing is a good squad player but he's clearly out of favour just like Carroll was. Cole should be sold ASAP along with doni. {Ed052's Note - Enrique should be nowhere near the first team. He was abysmal yesterday}


 

 

29 Oct 2012 06:58:36
We have a problem coming up with Suarez. he's now on 4 yellows nearly ready for his one match ban.
if he gets yellow against Newcastle we miss him for Chelsea...
john


Well he better watch himself


 

 

29 Oct 2012 06:31:51
things need to change this is not good. any other manger would be shown the door by now. br dont have a clue what he is at. he has a one way set up and it is not working. keep going on about rebuilding the club is a load of crap. the bloke needs to be shown the door if we keep him we will be lucky to finish 10th or 11th. when will any of you see he dont have a clue.


Well im right on to you for not havin a clue for a start ya clown.....or are you just feelin a little bitter today ha
rodger the dodger


What a stupid post after this week. the manager's style saved us yesterday.


Did you not see the way he changed things at half time bringing Coates on to deal with the arial threat and making it a 3/5/2 that still gave us attacking options!! We were gonna get battered again 2nd half if Buck hadn't of changed things,and when he did we nullified them and controlled the game more!! It's you who doesn't have a clue,MORON!!
In Buck we trust!


Calling me stupid. some of you cant see it. the second half was a joke. he shut up shop and we did nothing. we have no foward opions why because what we did have he loaned out. some of you need to see he is not the man to do this job.


Poster above did you see Carrols disgraceful amatuer lack've concentration at far post for West Ham? Totally missed trapping the ball for pass into opponents net. Yea should have a striker, but him gone is not costing us anything on the pitch. Lad never Good enough.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 05:08:39
What makes its hard to take is when u watch suarez disallowed goal again...why can't rodgers play assaidi and hendo these guys have done enough to be in the first team..suso is a natural 10 its so obvious from his play not a winger..our frontline should be sterling assaidi suarez


 

 

29 Oct 2012 01:21:06
Rodgers needs to stop with the Roy Hodgson small club manager mentality. He was happy with a point after giving away a 2 goal lead thanks to the ridiculous lightweight selection he started off with. Sahin and Suso were totally out of their depth in a physical slugfest against a team like Everton.

He also needs to drop the Dalglish whining routine that we are having no luck. This mentality gives the players an excuse to keep dropping points.

In this season so far defensive and offensive sloppiness has cost this team 11 points. Coates should be a starter from now on. Agger and Johnson should be moved forward into midfield. Ngoo, Morgan and Yesil need to be played in the Premiership now. These 3 guys deserve their chance now.


Well his lightweight selection got us the 2 goal lead mate, also do you think yesil, ngoo or morgan would've done anything better than suarez, sterling or suso. i also think that after that disallowed goal he has a fair point, i mean it was shocking.
derryred


 

 

28 Oct 2012 19:53:01
Hello Ed002,
nice to see Liverpool play ball well, hope it`ll last longer in the future than in today`s game. Apart from that, the sideline ref was so wrong!! A win today was so close...I feel for Brendan and boys. Let`s hope future will be bright. We badly need a striker. All the best to Liverpool and all of the Eds. {Ed002's Note - Thanks, and you have a great day.}


The sideline ref?

even more Puzzled


 

 

29 Oct 2012 00:37:59
Everton against liverpool:

Jones - Did not have a great deal to do. Was powerless to prevent the 2nd goal but was entirely to blame for the first, weak punch back into the danger zone (as opposed to away from it) when it should of been caught.

Enrique - Got forward well for the 1st goal but offered little else attacking wise. Was poor defensively for the 2nd goal and doesn't really look suitable as a starter, might be useful to retain as a squad player if he is happy with that role.

Wisdom - the first game the kid has shown his age. got skinned by Mirallas continually, looked uncomfortable on the ball, positionally all over the place, think the occasion got to him but a useful learning experience.

Agger - the only defender who emerges with credit. Comfortable on the ball, solid in the tackle, reads the game beautifully and really gives our defense the stability and leadership it needs. Had a good game today, finding it difficult to remember any contributions other than the positives.

Skrtel - Strange game today, had moments were he was imperious and then others were he seemed quite vulnerable. Was too slow to react to Fellaini being in a mile of space for the 2nd goal and failed to cut out his telegraphed cross, not his greatest game.

Gerrard - doesn't seem to wield the same influence in midfield as he once did but his distribution from set pieces was top class today. 1 lead directly to the 2nd goal and his final contribution to the game should've been the free kick delivery for that ridiculous disallowed goal. Passing just as good but a little unpredictable this season, lacking the consistency of past seasons.

Allen - kept the play ticking over well, allowed the team to flow but, as I have said before, doesn't contribute hugely towards attack or defense. 'Still played well and conducted himself well considering it was his first merseyside derby.

Sahin - never got into the game, touch was poor, passing was poor and basically was not good enough in the 1st half, rightly substituted.

Suso - was virtually anonymous in the 1st half he played, no great distribution or run or contribution towards the team. A good learning experience but a performance he will do well to forget.

Sterling - had a mixed game, some very good runs and willingness to take on players but a little petulance in the first half that, if the referee was a b*stard like in the usual derbys, could have seen him shown red. think sterling had real moments of quality but plenty of naivety as well, missed a gilt edged chance in the 2nd half. I think, in reference to the youngsters, that the experience of the intensity and passion of this type of fixture can only be a good thing, i'm just happy they were given a chance, in this circumstance their performance on the day is not the most important thing.

Suarez - the man is magic. Did well to smash the ball hard at Baines to score the first goal, did even better to get a flick on Gerrards excellent delivery and was completely robbed of his hattrick by a decision nobody can work out. Was a threat through out the game, his comical dive after the 1st goal had me reminiscing about Fowler snorting 6 yard boxes, constant menance and the biggest an brightest spark in our team at the moment, week in week out performs, thank god we have him. One negative was his tackle on Distin, unnecessary and looked deliberate and, on another day, could have been red - needs to cut that part of his game out.

Subs:

Coates - certainly helped the team deal with the aerial threat faced by Everton and was noticeable that they were more subdued in attack in the 2nd half as a result. Has a few 'dodgy' moments but overall looks a lot more assured than when he first joined, might finally have quality cover for Agger/Skrtel. was a phenomenal header to set Suarez up for his disallowed goal.

Shelvey - put himself about and looked more threatening than Sahin but ultimately not a huge impact. great potential but still a lot to learn.

Henderson - came on for Enrique and credit to him did well in the limited time he had. At one point won the ball on the byline in the Everton half and put in a decent ball. Didn't have a lot of time but thought he did well.

Conclusion:

Shouldn't be conceding goals immediately after taking the lead. Seem to be conceding goals a little too easily at the moment and lack stability. Rodgers still has a lot of rebuilding to do, at times that appears quite obvious, i thought that today at tims it was obvious. Still youngsters are being given the chances in big games, invaluable experience that will only aid their development. Team looked great in the first 20 minutes, if they can maintain that prformance for the majority of a game they will win most games they play. The green shoots of recovery and improvement are there - there is a long way to go but I feel happy. The late goal disallowed was a terrible decision but overall a draw was probably a fair result. Both teams played well, both teams fought until the final whistle, I thought it was a high quality derby. Atmosphere was quality in the pub as well, definiely a lot more friendly and amicable than in recent seasons, enjoyed it a lot. Liverpool are getting better, i think this time next year we will have a really clear idea as to just how our club is shaping up - so far the signs are positive, i hope they continue.


SMc


Don't agree with what you said about Suso. He would have been better staying on rather than Sterling.

BthekingB


First goal should have been defended on the edge of the penalty area - think it was Sterling who wasn't alert to it.


29 Oct 2012 10:33:40
Enrique played 2 defence splitting passes yesterday,both of which should have resulted in goals. I don't think he did that badly!
Let us not forget that the blue Sh**E are playing well,we conceded two sloppy goals,but should still have outscored them with Sterlings effort and disalllowed goal.
All things considered,one point is a fair result,IMO.
WelshBoyDave {Ed052's Note - Enrique was shocking yesterday}


29 Oct 2012 18:25:13
Agree to disagree mate. This website is the only one ive seen with negative reviews of him. I have so say i thought he was okay,bearing in mind the toughness of the game he made his injury comeback in anyway!
WelshBoyDave


 

 

29 Oct 2012 00:26:44
Well everyone ..... I can honestly say that fair play was killed off this weekend...... And referees credibility was killed off too.....there is clearly match fixing going on in English football and this weekend proves it...... Arsenals goal.... Clear offside........ Man utd 3rd goal .... offside....... And Liverpool get screwed yet again..... 3rd goal clearly onside n gets ruled out ........ What a joke our football has become! Plus I respect everton but 10 years and moyes has won nothing..... Good manager ..... my bum.... FACT


But can we really moan? losing a 2-0 is piss poor, and ever hansen said suarez would of beeen sent off for the distin tackle


I find it incorrect for us to continue pulling down Suarez, the challenge was not intentional, and some of our former players also coming in with stupid comments? Our boys won the game hands-down we now know that we coming up stronger, LFC for life.


 

 

29 Oct 2012 00:18:18
Moyes aint signed a contract cos their going no further. And today showed over hyped=Bubble burst time ha ha


Not sure how some Liverpool fans are knocking moyes! He's done great if you ask me, has next to no budget and still gets the team in good league finishes! Today they gave us 1 of our hardest games I can remember! I am a Liverpool fan but can't understand people bad mouthing moyes after today's game! Everton showed up!


What and LFC didnt show up? Bad mouthing Moyes cos he's let himself down playing mind games. And commenting on others players, ignoring his own teams/players failings, OK?


 

 

29 Oct 2012 00:17:51
Suarez should have been sent off for them tackles on Mirallas and Distin, disgraceful. Just because Mirallas was ripping you apart, there was no need for that.

ToffeeMike


And howard didnt coming sprinting out of his box faster than Usain Bolt to get a 17 year old kid get sent of, for a second challenge on Baines both times he went down real easy. Baines was falling all over the place today, really disgraceful. Because Raheem was tearing you apart in the first half, game changed after he got that yellow.
Andrew


"ripping us apart" really he got the better of a kid playing in his first derby about twice


To the kissocopter Mike! Let's save Christmas!

Cuchulainn's Hounds


29 Oct 2012 02:24:37
Toffee Mike,

Were we even watching the same game?

I've been over on your page these last few days, love a bit of banter I do, and the impression I was getting was that your big, experienced players were going to teach our young lads a thing or two, you know, knock their confidence, throw them off course, as it is, they weren't really bothered by you! You can't hope for a rough game on your part and then complain when it doesnt work out! That's the nature of a derby match, especially ours...I thought Fellaini was going to boss the midfield? From what I saw, he was made to look a fool on many occasions by a lad who is about a foot shorter than him! We were outplaying you, and then went to sleep for 15 minutes where you drew level with us, you hardly bothered us during the second half! Agger and Skrtel bossed Jelavic, I hardly noticed he was playing! Miralas and Baines were good, as usual, but Suarez and Sterling were all over your defense like a rash! You lot have been treating this like a victory on your part, you're forgeting we drew the game! You can use all the excuses you like, apparently Sterling should have been sent off - that's a good one. A young talented lad playing his first derby, not even slightly malicious, it's not like he was reckless - hardly deserving of a red card. Apparently Suarez should have been sent off too for the challenge on Distin...now I understand it's hard to see properly from behind those blue tinted shades, but did you not see him jump back when he realised he was on Distin's ankle? It was a nasty challenge, but I doubt very much it was deliberate, oh hang on, wait a minute, didn't he handball a goal bound shot off the line in the 2010 world cup? Ah yeah, it MUST have been deliberate! Get a grip ffs, you had decisions go your way as well, I believe you should never have had that throw in that lead to your second goal, and Sterling was also denied a goal scoring opportunity by the last man, which could be argued is also a red card! You lot should be thanking the officials for disallowing that last goal, however you dress it up, everyone with eyes could see it was a clear legit goal, instead you guys are bragging about it like classless persons! and what is also a tad ironic is that all you lot were banging on about Suarez diving and cheating, however today it was not him who let the side down, but YOUR OWN CAPTAIN! Man you guys must be embarrassed. I now fully expect you lot to campaign to remove his captaincy, as you are so dead against 'cheating'...of course thats ridiculous though isn't it! I just wonder how you would feel now if he were to be taken down in the penalty area and denied a penalty because he has dived in the past, and then denied again, and again, and then a bit more...surely that's what these 'cheating' players deserve? It makes me laugh how you guys can justify the linesman calling Suarez offside, by saying he deserves it for all the 'cheating' - i'm afraid football doesn't work like that my friend...

Strangely I have no issue with Everton, just the muppets who are too blinded by love for EFC that they cannot see what is glaringly obvious. I rather thought you guys would have the class and decency to rightly say that we deserved that one. How wrong was I


We all no what the biggest injustice was in the game and it came late on


More like Suarez was ripping your defense apart.


More like Mirallas was tearing you a new 1 before he was a assaulted


 

 

29 Oct 2012 00:14:20
Anything To say about Nevilles disgraceful dive?_Mouthy Scottish Gargoyle


 

 

29 Oct 2012 00:13:13
Watching the replay of our disallowed goal is hard to stomach when you see just how long it takes the linesman to raise his flag (basically when Suarez has started celebrating he decides to raise it - very very strange and something that needs looking at).

having said that was a cracking derby, played in good spirits and i think 2-2, on the balance of play, was probably a fair result.

SMc


The linesman just bottled it with the pressure from fans he should be sacked really weak decision


Apart from the obvious foul by Coates on Jagielka, Phils a human not a climbing frame. Next.


29 Oct 2012 08:34:00
The flag wasn't for the foul considering how late it was. If the assistant was flagging for a foul he should have done it before the ball was in the net.


Also, he flagged for offside - flag raised straight in front of him. I think I'm right in saying that, if it was a free kick, he would wave the flag in the air, then point it in the direction that everton were shooting.

JammyRed


Yeah Coates jumped over jagielka but did you see him complain about it or claim a foul? Nope..... His head just sunk after he saw the ball go in the net! Like a lot of people have said it was a fair result overall but we were robbed of the victory late on....


And Nevilles in Swan Lake-NEXT


 

 

29 Oct 2012 00:13:10
Torres did not look that bothered when he got sent off today despite it being a horrendous decision. Di Matteo gave him that look its easy you can tell he will be gone in January but the question is WHERE?

Another EPL Team- A chance
Falcoa Replacement- very likely
Liverpool- I WOULD DREAM

KAMEE


He definitely won't be back with us mate. I reckon most likely if he was to leave in January he'll be plying his trade back in Spain.

Cuchulainn's Hounds


Who cares he's past it


If the falcao to chelsea rumours are true he could be a make weight in the deal back to madrid


Torres plus cash for Falcoa I reckon?
Lee73


 

 

29 Oct 2012 00:11:27
Pleased overall, and would have won bar Brad not catching ,then let them in.However still think B.R made gaff wiyh Sahin and not Shelvey at start. Honestly believe Sahin and Suso not geared for that game. Aint slagging them, merely saying wrong side THAT game. Its coming togetherv though and get quality strikers we'll then be fine.As for them, 2 Neutrals Leeds, and Spurs fans watched game. Rightly said-Only us played footy


But after some of Shelvey's atrocious tackling this season starting him would have been a real risk. He likes to leave his feet in a challenge, not really sure why
Andrew


 

 

28 Oct 2012 23:58:42
Wheres Steph and spouting Blue on here other Night? Load've debutants and you still could'nt beat us. In fact a Linesmans help stopped you getting beat. You were favourites and Your supposedly having great season( still its expectations, and your ahead of us so you must be superb) Get back in your boxes, you aint all that, our reserve keeper let you back in. You could'nt pass wind


 

 

28 Oct 2012 23:32:00
It's obvious from today's results that mu are going to be 'Champions' again. The luck that they have had throughout the years seems to show no sign of abbaiting. We have all seen the goals by Suarez and Chicarito and have questions - why is the offside goal allowed and the onside goal disallowed! My main question with regard to the Suarez goal - why did it take so long for the linesman (!) to raise his flag? I have also seen that 'three yellows' Poll has come up with anti-Liverpool comments. When will this incompetent man shut up?
DM2012


No luck in that game. Officials blantntly cheating. Corruption.
I would like to see an investigation into match fixing.


I agree with the post about match fixing.... It needs to be looked at, there is clearly something going on! Look at arsenal goal on Saturday too!


 

 

28 Oct 2012 23:27:30
I thought we were far too lightweight in the first half. Tiki taka is one thing when you Xavi, Iniesta and Messi etc. but we haven't and it was an away derby match!
It was good that Rodgers addressed that but I'd like to see us with a bit more physicality more often.
I think we should use Henderson's energy more in the middle of the park, as we look as though we could get bullied at times.
Rigsby.


BANG ON Sahin and Suso too risky in a physical game. Better when changed it. Its why we could'nt HOLD lead


 

 

28 Oct 2012 23:22:06
After recent pre match comments from opposing managers ala fergie do you think that these pre match press conferences are getting more like boxing with managers trying to promote reaction from opponents putting them on the back foot and influencing officials before they have set foot on the pitch and having no bearing on the match, whereas post match comments go punished by the FA and these are comments more valuable to the game than the theatre of pre match press conferences, which were set up by SLY to boost there ratings and revenue by inciting 20,30 or even 50000 partisan supporters and could do more harm than good for the game but SLY only worried about profits not the sport

TC YNWA


Its the media stupid!


The FA and Sky and almost everyone else make money out of the drama..not least the media. Why change it?

That's not me agreeing. Just saying.


 

 

28 Oct 2012 23:19:41
Just feel like we can't win at the moment...Suarez throws his arms around when he feels there is an injustice and gets slated for getting up in the ref's face. Wisdom takes an incorrect decision like a man and accepts it and the incorrect decision leads to a goal. Suarez gets fouled and gets nothing, then Overreacts and gets nothing, so he behaves for 90 mins and scores a legit goal, and it gets disallowed.

What do we have to do?


So you call scraping his studs down a players Achilles behaving himself do you? You Liverpool fans really are deluded.


29 Oct 2012 02:31:15
Oh pipe down, you guys had dodgy decisions in your favour as well, you can't just assume it was deliberate, he didn't get away with anything you guys got a free kick out of it - it's not like none of your lot fouled anyone - rugby tackle on Sterling anyone? last man = red card, did we see one? No, and no one cares, because it's a minor detail, and to be expected in a game like this! Scraping the barrel in your justifications.


I think the word you are scrabbling for is delusional.


 

 

28 Oct 2012 23:13:55
United's new anthem - ''I get by with a little help from my friends''.

MikeyRed92


And for Suarez "I go down with a liitle help from the wind"


 

 

28 Oct 2012 23:10:01
LB; Filipe Luis - £3m plus Jose Enrique
ST; Gomis £10.5m


 

 

28 Oct 2012 23:08:15
The prejudice against Luis Suarez is unbelievable, the offside was more so. I don't think I have seen two more incompetent officiating teams than we saw at Goodison and SW6 today. Hope you get some luck soon (Hopefully against Old Whisky-Nose and Co.!) and looking forward to another quality match (which hopefully the officials will be incapable of paralysing the match like they have twice today)
EH17


 

 

28 Oct 2012 22:56:26
I'm sick of hearing about Luis Suarez and every manager seeming to have a pop at him now getting beyond a joke yes he bring it on himself sometimes and I was over the moon for te lad sticking it to moyes but it just seems to be non stop bullying .... Havnt the likes of ronaldo,drogba and Henry admitted to going Down without even a blow
On the bak of there neck ?? Proud of Luis today he sayed on his feet all game and was no dour the man of the match


Jayblair1989


He didn't stay on his feet Jayblair - he dived in front of Moyes.

Cuchulainn's Hounds


 

 

 
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