Liverpool Banter Archive November 29 2013

29 Nov 2013 23:24:19
bad news sturridge is injured

29 Nov 2013 20:47:37
LFC_ForLife,

where did you hear Sturridege is unfit for Sunday's game? BR has quoted how good he's trained, so where did you read/heard he's not playing?

I had he twisted his ankle during training. will miss the hull game but will be fit next gameweek

Newsnow website

29 Nov 2013 15:35:37
Can someone please give me a brief summary on Montoya? Only ever very briefly watched the lad play, so not sure of his qualities/weaknesses etc, so a bit of a breakdown on him would be much appreciated, cheers.

JFT 96

JP

30 Nov 2013 11:45:38
Seen a lot of him over the years for the Spanish Youth sides. It's not quite January just yet, but I'll do a player review on him and a few others who are being heavily linked if you'd like? I'll need a few days as I'm very busy lately but I don't mind pulling one together if people will read it.

YNWAdam

Sounds good to me mate! A friend of mine is essentially Rain Man when it comes to football, and says Montoya is the real deal - fantastic at going forward, great tackler and has an uncanny ability at splitting play up with something as simple as a turn of his body.

Interested to hear everybodys thoughts though.

JFT 96

JP

29 Nov 2013 15:04:25
Between now and the end of the year we have 7 matches. From these 7 matches I feel we need to take 15 points out of a possible 21. If we want a chance of finishing in the top 4 we need to beat Hull, Norwich, West Ham & Cardiff. We are playing Spurs, Chelsea & Man City away, so 3 points from these matches would be ok, so 3 draws or 1 win. Any more points from these games would be a bonus.

So, our target for 31st December is 39 points, which would make us joint 3rd in my predictions.

RedRocket

I've been thinking on similar lines, but in honesty I think we can go to spurs and Chelsea and get a win in both games.

I agree but if we take 11 it will not be a disaster because by then we would have played Arsenal, City, Spurs, Everton, Chelsea away. Only leaving utd. Away for second half of season. If, big if, we can get the quality additions and not lose Suarez over Transfer period we'd be in a strong position to push on. All other teams will have European commitments as well.

4 or 5 points from chelsea, tottenham and city are ok

We haven't beaten 'Ull yet. Concentrate on one game at a time.

29 Nov 2013 09:23:06
YNWAdam,

I was reading a few posts on the dodgy rumours page and In reply to your post on the 25th October here is a Liverpool related anagram of Mkhitaryan.

"Hitman Ray K"

Arsenal Hitman Ray Kennedy was Bill Shankly's final signing for Liverpool. Later converted by Bob Paisley from a striker to an attacking midfielder, but nevertheless started his Liverpool career as a striker.

I think that's a pint you owe me ;-)

Red Rum

YNWAdam

I'm with Red-Rum, You owe the guy a pint at his local!

29 Nov 2013 11:57:14
Not sure if thay follows the rules of an anagram or not, but hats off to you mate! If I knew were your local was, I'd treat you to a few pints ;)

Rum or Bitter? haha

YNWAdam {Ed002's Note - Not bitter, just philosophical.}

29 Nov 2013 12:12:41
I see what you did there Ed!

Now we're on that subject (you've got me started now!), the best philosophical quote of all time (in my opinion) actually came from your native nation:

"Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names"

There is a pint in it for you too if you can tell me who said it without google ;)

YNWAdam {Ed002's Note - It is of course JFK and oft quoted. Like Dylan, people easily read too much in to Kennedy. You might do better to seek out the work of Langston Hughes. "I stay cool, and dig all jive, That's the way I stay alive. My motto, as I live and learn, is Dig and be dug In return."}

29 Nov 2013 12:33:47
So me, Ed002 and Red Rum for a few pints? Sounds good haha!

I had not heard of him but that is brilliant. I will have to try and memorise it :)

YNWAdam

29 Nov 2013 00:47:53
This may come across as a bit of a stupid question, but why do all teams make a wall for free kicks? Surely it creates a target for the taker, and if it goes over the wall at a decent height, often the keeper isn't going to make it, due to the fact that the ball is unsighted for the first 10 yards. It would just be interesting to see how successful the likes of ronaldo, bale, pirlo etc would be if there wasn't a wall, and merely were taking a 25 yard shot.

Maybe managers don't really want to use a wall, but if they don't use one and it backfires, then they fear getting unprecedented amount of stick for it?

Just a thought

The keeper puts the wall there mate, watch next time.

Because it gives the taker less of a target.
also if you introduce a wall the taker will need to apply spin to the ball to make it dip. That will slow down the ball and give the keeper more chance to reach it than if the taker simply ran up fill tilt and lashed it at goal.

You know I've always wondered the same. I'm guessing walls for free kicks have been there since football began. It would interesting to see. Maybe not a close free kick say between 18-20 yard but further out sure why not. I like to see that someday just maybe not Liverpool to be the 1st. What about throw-in's they should be abolished! Ball goes out allow 2 yard +/- from where ball goes out. Allowed to hit while moving on the ground only, that could really increase the tempo. Football was revoluntized after the back pass rule. Football as is the name zero hands allowed

29 Nov 2013 09:37:03
If there os no wall, then what's the difference between a spot kick and free kick.?

I would hazard a guess and say a spot kick is 12 yards out from the centre of a goal with only the keeper to beat and being classed as direct. Whereas a free-kick is a minimum of 18 yards out to possibly 30 yards out where free kick specialists would try their luck all along the 18 yard line and back to maybe the 30 yard distance of the box and can be given both direct and in-direct.

Harry,

the difference is 'In a spot-kick no one can interfere except the GK, but in the free-kick there will still be 10 players randomly arranged or in a wall fashion to make it more difficult.'

I certainly think the modern day wall set up needs completely re adjusting. The modern boots, ball etc allow for so much curl and dip that at points when you have ronaldo, bale, drogba messi walls are almost negligible.

The original walls would be placed because there was no dip on the ball, and it was simply struck ferociously in an attempt to beat the keeper on his side.
As a former goal keeper myself, I know my preference for a wall set up, but if it was applied in a real football situation people would think WTF! if it goes wrong once you're an person, even if it works the other 99 times.

It was actually tried out by a few teams and the result was that the attacking team would place a wall up in front of the keeper. This made it even more difficult for them to see and allowed the free kick taker to hide the shot effectively, when he struck the ball the wall would move out the way.

29 Nov 2013 20:34:03
I don't know about this guys,
Try and take a free kick in your local park this weekend with and without a wall, I'm pretty sure I know which is the harder!

For my team we have a 2 man wall. Then 2 men on their shoulders.