Liverpool Banter Archive July 29 2017

29 Jul 2017 21:17:47
Was reading banter post about Barcelona players they could offer and Im so schocked about some of the guys saying things about rakitic as if he is joe allen lol. don't know what a good midfielder is for you guys but Rakitic is definitely one. Guy was Sevilla captain, won Europa league with them scored 15 from midfield. scored in champions league final and won it with Barcelona. Which one of our players done it? Do you really think our player are better then others just bcos they play for liverpool.

29 Jul 2017 21:25:47
"Do you really think our player are better then others just bcos they play for liverpool. "

I think our midfielders are better than Rakitic because they are better than Rakitic. Not because they play for Liverpool.

29 Jul 2017 21:57:09
Sorry, all our midfielders are better than Rakitic? Everyone is entitled to an opinion I guess.

29 Jul 2017 22:07:36
Why should we take someone's offcasts.

29 Jul 2017 22:16:26
number of throphies our midfielders won is 1 . WHEN they win something we can talk about it. we don't have winners in our team and that is a reality, he is regular at barcelona and winning throphies, Henderson won carling cup :) we all need a reallity check just bcos he isn't pacey doesn't mean he is a bad midfielder. that is problem with english clubs Sigurdson or Gini would be a better midfielder for you than Rakitic and Rakitic is better in 8 out of 10 things from those two IMHO. Rakitic would be a nice option to have especially in CL but he is out of our reach.

29 Jul 2017 22:30:30
Not having this he's won loads of trophies so he must be better than ours nonsense O'Shea and brown and Neville have all won loads.

{Ed025's Note - gary neville was a very good player jezza..

29 Jul 2017 22:35:59
Ed025, the bitters are in full force, of course Neville wasn't that good a player and don't kid yourselves, Rakitic is far better than any of your midfielders, especially Captain Henderson.

{Ed025's Note - jordan is very good at pretending to be a good player scholes, full of energy and always busy doing nothing, its a fine art mate..

29 Jul 2017 22:40:08
Rakatic was amazing 2 years ago but it seems he is now passed his best, although I would still take him for the right price.

29 Jul 2017 22:57:00
I agree with mandzo on this one. I support our lads, we have great potential but someone of Rakitic class would walk into our team (not that this will happen) . This guy has won a CL, 2 Spanish titles, a Europa league and probably a couple more. He also plays for Barcelona and not too long ago scored a belter against Real Madrid and after watching him that night, I didn't think his legs had gone. Anyway, this isn't a Rakitic love in, just that maybe we should wait to put our lads into his bracket until they have achieved something, win a few trophies or maybe just turn up away to Leicester on a cold Wednesday night in February.

29 Jul 2017 22:58:06
It's not about being bitter. Rakitic has lost his pace. He isn't better than what we've got.

29 Jul 2017 23:10:13
He doesn't need pace mate, it's all up upstairs. Do you mean he gets overrun in midfield? Can't keep up? Just that a lot of our lads don't have blistering pace.

29 Jul 2017 23:23:42
Manzo, what are those 10 things rakitic is better than any of ours in?

29 Jul 2017 23:21:16
Is there an Ed out there who thinks we rate our players too highly? For instance, pretty much saying Rakitic wouldn't get into our midfield as it stands now? Maybe I need to drop this, don't know what my obsession is with Rakitic!

29 Jul 2017 23:30:07
Our midfield for all their pace get turned over time and time again.

29 Jul 2017 23:56:50
i agree rakitic is a good player but no way i would swap him with couts.

29 Jul 2017 23:58:51
Pace Like molby? You don't pace when your streets ahead upstairs.

30 Jul 2017 00:15:39
This site is embarrassing sometimes. We miss out on the next big midfield prodigy so we should accept a player on the downturn should Coutinho go?

Rakitic is a top, top player, but his best years are behind him and the physicality of the BPL is a completely different game to La Liga, especially in the center of the field.

30 Jul 2017 00:14:37
Rakitic is a quality player.

30 Jul 2017 00:20:58
You can't have been watching him last two seasons, he's looked awful.

30 Jul 2017 00:44:35
The number of trophies won argument is ridiculous, I'm not saying Rakitic is a bad player but Anderson won 4 league titles and a Champions League, does that make him a better player than Gerrard?

30 Jul 2017 03:58:21
Nothing wrong with Rakitic's ability as he is still a quality player. The issue is he lacks the athleticism and legs to play as a B2B midfielder in Klopp's system. Would be the wrong signing imo and I just don't want anyone from that Barcelona team bar MSN.

{Ed001's Note - he is not the player you remember from a couple of seasons ago. His decline, particularly last season, is alarming. Not sure why he has suddenly lost form, but it did look like his legs had gone, though 29 seems a bit early for that.}

30 Jul 2017 00:09:18
Ed25, you are a tosser, if you don't think that Henderson is a good player. Really gone down in my estimation.

{Ed025's Note - its all about opinions in the end, hes vastly overrated for me and for a number of liverpool supporters who i know...have you ever considered that you may be the tosser MN?..

30 Jul 2017 07:41:21
I get the trophies argument, maybe that's a poor example. Just my opinion that he is still a better plan than Can, Henderson, Lallana, Gruijic and Gini, even if his legs have gone! I know it's a bit embarrassing sometimes, YouTube highlights all that's good but just watch a bit from last season, serious skills. Anyway, I think I need to get over it now! Also, calling Ed25 a tosser is not on, Toffee or not, I tend to agree with a lot of what he/ she says (not the Henderson bit though) .

{Ed001's Note - honestly he is not a good player any more, he is not half the player he once was. A couple of seasons ago I would have loved the idea of Rakitic, but he is awful now. He offers nothing. As for more no, it is clear he is the tosser, even if Ed025's not got a clue about Hendo, which he hasn't, it does not make him a tosser. He just doesn't know about quality footballers, being an Everton fan he has not seen any......}

30 Jul 2017 08:24:35
Haha fair enough Ed, this is why this site is so good, everyone has an opinion and apart from certain tosses, everyone expresses them in a mature manner most of the time anyway. And yes, sorry Ed25, but you would love a player like Henderson, go on, admit it, you would.

{Ed025's Note - we have better in gana aj who along with keita and kante is one of the best around, he is also not a decapitated bantam who runs aimlessly without a scooby of what he wants to achieve like someone i could mention..but we all wear tinted specs at times i suppose mate and thats fair enough..

30 Jul 2017 16:29:39
All I remember about Gana is him being left on his ar*se by Coutinho when he bent it into the top corner.

{Ed025's Note - couts can do that to any player dilakh but its how you perform over the full season that counts, 1x gana = 10 hendo,s in my book as he actually knows what he is doing and is a footballer who is very athletic, unlike jordan who is an athlete pretending to be a footballer mate..

29 Jul 2017 20:12:45
Dunno ed025, think your assessment is harsh. Clyne is a consistent performer at right back no Cafu but there are very few
Who would be an improvement. On Klavan he played in some of our bigger games and better performances last season. There is better out there but considering the price he was a decent signing.

{Ed025's Note - "who would be an improvement on klavan" roon?...may i suggest a lamppost..

29 Jul 2017 20:40:25
Well he is better than Funis Mori ed that's for sure, 😂🤔.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think he is MR, and im not a mori fan at all mate..

29 Jul 2017 20:45:40
Eds25 Any truth in the rumours that Chelsea are considering a bid of £120 million for salanke.

{Ed025's Note - no mate..they could not wait to get shut of him ace.. :)

29 Jul 2017 20:51:11
Titus Bramble, let's go!

{Ed025's Note - miles better..

29 Jul 2017 21:19:53
Eds 25 we are talking about the same guy who's scoring for fun?

{Ed025's Note - its pre-season ace, dont read too much into it mate wait until the season starts and you come up against real teams, i do wish the lad well though..

29 Jul 2017 21:32:26
They are all faster than Jagielka ever was, and better on the ground.

29 Jul 2017 22:26:53
I'm sure voronin had a good preseason aswel.

29 Jul 2017 22:42:30
Klaven is awful.

{Ed025's Note - your boosting him up there cobra..

30 Jul 2017 00:40:47
Love to hear more about this guy, Lampost Ed, we could do with a shining light in our defence.

30 Jul 2017 03:59:50
Klavan will be 5th choice CB next season if VVD signs. Why are people getting so worked up about Klavan? He was brought as a backup and will remain a backup.

30 Jul 2017 10:31:59
"What an interception by Lampost! He was really switched on there! "

{Ed025's Note - nice one fitzy..

29 Jul 2017 19:33:25
thank you for your reply and all the great work yo all do.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

29 Jul 2017 19:26:30
Well according to poster mr miagI vvd is done for £62 million and was posted which I replied saying no chance he will be signed but his post is now gone and my reply wasn't posted fact is we haven't a chance with vvd just as we had no chance with keita and look how that turned out. Mark my words vvd will end up at City or Chelsea.

29 Jul 2017 19:07:05
I am fed up reading posts about buying this and that player. What exactly is the point of having a coach unless you expect them to improve the players you have? Plenty of signs in the pre season the say that's exactly what Klopp is doing. If we get VVD then job done in my book. Even Klavan looked good today.

29 Jul 2017 18:42:22
Have to say. been very disappointed with Firmino today. Sloppy first touch, poor finishing. Just doens't look the same without Coutinho on the pitch.

29 Jul 2017 18:56:50
He's bang average 50% of the time.

29 Jul 2017 19:26:36
1st this is preseason where fitness is built up and the cobwebs are shaken off, so results are not really important.
2nd you've obviously never seen Firmino actually play if that's what you think regarding the 50% remark.

29 Jul 2017 20:23:38
Oh that's what it is, I've never seen him play 🤔.

29 Jul 2017 20:41:36
At least now you're being truthful.

29 Jul 2017 21:39:51
I've never been impressed with Firmino. he's always been very hit and miss IMO. Klopp though clearly rates him and I am hoping for more consistency from the lad this year. Suarez was very rough around the edges when he first showed up and always missed way more than he scored and look how that turned out!

29 Jul 2017 23:34:31
Yeh I'm not the biggest fermino fan, had a poor 2nd half of last season, works his backside off which is probably the reason klopp has persisted with him but just doesn't do enough for me to warrant a regular start.

29 Jul 2017 18:11:33
Have enjoyed watching Gomez at Right Back today. No new RB needed IMHO.

29 Jul 2017 18:55:53
Between TAA, Gomez and the possibility of moving Milner to right back, I agree, no new right back is needed.

Actually we could sell the current incumbent in that position.

29 Jul 2017 17:38:54
Any chance we could look towards Seri of Nice as an alternative to Keita?

{Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer "any chance" questions about random players the club has shown no interest in.}

29 Jul 2017 17:44:16
Why wouldn't we be looking at him? Very similar players and Seri is better defensively.

{Ed002's Note - The same reason as Liverpool haven't been looking at Djibril Sow.}

29 Jul 2017 19:00:07
Maybe we're not looking at him because the club haven't scouted in detail him because we haven't the capacity to properly scout every player in Europe? Or maybe we have and have decided that the similarity with Keita is superficial and Seri isn't good enough? Maybe Klopp Keita and Keita only and prefers to make do with his existing midfield options rather than sign an alternative?

We didn't we look at Kevin O'Connor to solve our left-back issue? He was left-back and he was available, wasn't he? Or Sean Maguire to boost our forward line? Just because a player plays in a position we need doesn't mean we're automatically tracking him.

29 Jul 2017 17:17:19
Hi Eds, as I understand it from this site the Coutinho to Barcelona interest is about an Iniesta replacement and nothing whatsoever to do with Neymar staying or going. But I believe their first choice is actually PSG's Varretti who I believe wants to join Barcelona and Marca have said personal terms have been agreed. So isa Coutinho interest actually back up if they can't get the Varretti deal done? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - They have no agreement over Verratti and hence the interest in Coutinho. However, Barcelona and PSG will be discussing another matter this week and Verratti could well become part of that discussion.}

29 Jul 2017 16:53:19
Ok Ed's steel helmet firmly on is Mata a possibility from the Mancs.
Im all about Liverpool being No1 no matter what "2nd is nobody" as Shanks said so not biting your hand off to spite your face would he be worth a punt .?

{Ed001's Note - no.}

29 Jul 2017 17:14:55
Phill Chisnall in 1964.
This was the last transfer between Liverpool and Manchester United. Should say it all really.

29 jul 2017 17:18:19
theres a month left of the window.

keep calm
and
y n w a
96.

29 Jul 2017 17:29:45
So the ed has a steel helmet?

Always comes in handy I suppose.

29 Jul 2017 16:50:01
Guys, before everyone goes into meltdown on who we have or have not signed, just a gentle reminder: How many top class players did Leicester have when they won the league?
It's not about how many world class players you have, it's how everyone plays as a team. This is why football is called a team game. So because we haven't signed tapped up Keita or tapped up VVD doesn't mean there is no hope for the season ahead.

29 Jul 2017 17:07:16
I think we really need to stop using Leicester as an example. It was a freak occurrence and probably only happened once in a century! 99 times out of 100, it is a team full of top class players.

29 Jul 2017 17:19:46
You mean like Man City have won it every year?
The last team to consistently win the title were Man Utd and they didn't buy a team of top class players to do it, they made one.

29 Jul 2017 17:23:56
Blackburn rovers?

How easily people forget.

{Ed002's Note - BR spent a lot of money to win the title.}

29 Jul 2017 17:27:50
Couldn't agree more mate its a pathetic example.

29 Jul 2017 18:09:31
Agreed Ed, but it was a club who came out of nowhere to title winners in a matter of years and sadly vanished after that. Yes they spent money just not as wisely as Leicster did but to be honest there's a generation gap between then and now.

29 Jul 2017 18:52:57
Leicester winning was a fluke. Will never happen again. Ever. They also had Kante who was like having two men in midfield, take Kante away and they were nearly relegated.

29 Jul 2017 18:53:59
How many times have a leicester like team won the league in the last 30 years.

They had mahrez and kante though and through good scout8ng got them cheap but if you wanted them in your team it would be about 70 mil. So technically they did have talent there just didn't have to pay for it. Unfortunately those days are pretty much at an end due to the t. v. money. Even a 4 mil player will cost 12 nowadays.

29 Jul 2017 19:04:30
Wonderwoodburn you make no sense at all.

29 Jul 2017 15:23:10
Been watching the Emirates cup, I know only pre-season friendly and can't really judge too much but Keita looks the dogs bollocks here. So quick around the pitch. Shame we couldn't get a deal sorted think he would have thrived under klopp at lfc. Who knows maybe next summer.

29 Jul 2017 17:29:59
They don't like it up!

29 Jul 2017 18:44:13
Not going to happen. Keita will never ever play for us. He'll go somewhere else next year.

29 Jul 2017 14:39:13
Can I give a special shout out to "wonderwoodburn" for getting 329 thumbs down last I checked, that is impressive stuff, got to give the lad credit 😂.

29 Jul 2017 16:34:24
Harry has competition! Comptition is good and healthy!

29 Jul 2017 14:17:07
Eds could you give any names of any kieta alternatives if there are any? Seems we have given up on him, if press is to be believed.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any direct replacements Liverpool has in mind. They may potentially look at some of the Barcelona surplus players as part of the Coutinho transfer.}

29 Jul 2017 14:23:21
Nice one Ed, cue the fume.

29 Jul 2017 14:35:06
Rafinha would be one option.

29 Jul 2017 14:50:25
That'll be Rakitic then.

29 Jul 2017 14:58:24
Denis Suarez?

{Ed002's Note - He is certainly one they will happily move on.}

29 Jul 2017 15:07:03
Why would we want these surplus players? they are not good enough simple as.

29 Jul 2017 15:04:17
Why happily Ed?

{Ed002's Note - They have a number of players they want to move on - they are bit part players and can be used to raise funds. Suarez is one of those.}

29 Jul 2017 15:19:42
Great news then ed. We are about done as I suspected.

29 Jul 2017 16:02:01
Will Bale be interedted?

He is not replacement but different attacking outlet.

Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Bale does not play for Barcelona.}

29 Jul 2017 16:50:06
im sure Barcelona would be willing to throw Bale into a Coutinho deal, they would throw in Ronaldo too! Not sure Real would be too happy though.

29 Jul 2017 16:56:52
Was Coutinho necessarily classed as good enough before he signed for Liverpool?

{Ed002's Note - He was seen to be good but lightweight.}

29 Jul 2017 16:58:40
Suarez is one of them 😳Really.
I don't want him back but I didn't think they wanted rid.

29 Jul 2017 17:02:47
Dennis Suarez barely played last season. He is a great young player though. He has been the creative force in both Villareal and Sevilla teams, which experienced varying levels of European competition success.

I am not sure if he is an immediate upgrade on Lallana or Gini though seeing as he barely played last season, so would he play?

29 Jul 2017 18:46:35
I wouldn't want Denis Saurez, Rakatic or any of their bench fodder. £150m or get lost.

29 Jul 2017 14:14:03
Anyone else thinking that we are business is done?

VVD and Keita dead in the water. Klopp has been praising Gomez saying he is at his fitest and can play FB or CB. Coupled with Milner vying for CM slot along with Emre who will stay now its clear Keita staying put.

Its just my opinion of course but I think our squad is complete.

29 Jul 2017 12:46:03
I'm a bit shocked when I look thru this page and see all these people saying they'd have a midfield of Hendo coutinho and wiji, or can, or Keita if he had have come in. what about lallana? People seem certain he's going to be the one who's dropped next season? I wouldn't be so sure, nor would I want him to! He was arguable England's best player last year (I know that's not a lot) and our own at certain points in the season!

I know he runs his mouth to the press a bit too much and has his issues at time on the ball but his work rate and his feet and creating/ finishing chances has improved so much in one year under klopp and I can't see klopp dropping him!

Remember suarez used to work so hard in pressing and chasing down the opposition so much so that the rest of the team even the players who wudnt be so into that part of the game would all follow suit and do the exact same? I really believe lallana and firmino are the two who now do that and they are both vital in our system particularly against the better sides who try to play against us and pass thru the middle and at the back!

Anyway am I alone in thinking / hoping lallana won't be dropped more often than not?

29 Jul 2017 12:56:17
He had half a good season. After Christmas he was anonymous. He was MOTM in the 3-0 over Middlesborough and that seemed to go to his head because after that game he was absolutely atrocious.

At Christmas he had 7 goals and 7 assists and he finished the season with 8 and 8. He got complacent and the team suffered because of it. Klopp's style was all through Lallana up to that point. Before Christmas he was the trigger to the press. Lallana would go first to initiate it and then we'd swarm them. As soon as Lallana dropped off in form, so did Liverpool.

It is for that reason why I think a lot of people want him dropped. He is one dimensional. He has to be playing in a high tempo press, but we cannot afford to build a team to play to his strengths because he picks and chooses when he wants to play well. Coutinho, Hendo and Gini can all control a game and dominate teams. None of them give up possession carelessly.

Lallana is a good squad player and on his day a match winner. If it was his day every week he'd be undroppable but his poor mentality makes him a liability at times.

29 Jul 2017 12:58:28
Not me. Lallana won't be dropped unless his performances dip. He starts the press and is integral to Klopps plans.

29 Jul 2017 13:01:30
Your not alone, I share the same views as you and often thought the same when reading posts about teams that don't include him.

29 Jul 2017 13:08:07
Totally agree Lallana is brilliant he's got such a good 1st touch and he's just full of energy.

29 Jul 2017 13:08:41
There's no doubting Lallana's skills. He's agile, very mobile, runs all day long and presses very effectively. But for me, he's a player who is probably "too creative" for Klopp's system with his constant twists and turns, which in essence slows the play down as much as Can's supposed weaknesses. Granted he's improved since Klopp arrived, but I think he still needs to be more direct in his offensive play. Maybe it's me, but he also seems a bit "lightweight" when you see how often he gets pushed off the ball, nutmegged, and passed without too much difficulty. It's not often, but I don't see the same happening with Hendo, Wijnaldum or Can.

29 Jul 2017 13:33:15
MK, that's really harsh mate blaming the teams demise after Christmas on Lallana. There was barely one player who could hold his head up for all their performances after Christmas. We completely capitulated as a team icluding the one dimensional Klopp.
Let's hope Klopp has learned to deal with a bad run better than he did last season because we went from challenging to scraping into 4th.
Yes Lallana went off the boil but maybe it was something else that caused it that we are not privy too, blaming one player is very poor form mate.

29 Jul 2017 13:38:12
People forget that llalana was used differently. In the first half of the season he was being used deeper and flourished. Post Xmas, with no mane, he was being used further up the pitch and the influence he was having from the middle of the park dissipated.

29 Jul 2017 13:45:29
MK scouser, he changed position after Christmas to cover left wing in Couts absence. For me that explains why his performance and stats dipped. The season before last he was poor on the wing and last season he was poor again when moved out into the wing.

29 Jul 2017 13:57:08
Llalana will always be a starter under Klopp.

Dont ever doubt that.

29 Jul 2017 14:01:07
Agree with mcgoveb and KK92, u can't blame lallana when coutinho and mane were missing, strikers weren't scoring, matip was out, because lallana is versatile he was used differently then and just be cos he wasn't AS effective doesn't mean it was his fault that the whole team playing below standards were down to him! Like u said MK everything good was going thru him when he was played right and in a more suited position and was surrounded by 1st choice players around him.

Glad to see plenty others agree with me tho cos I thought he was getting a hard time off some posters recently and think it would be very harsh on to bench him this season.

29 Jul 2017 14:31:47
Each to their own. I'm not blaming him for our bad form post Christmas. Just saying his drop in form was a factor or perhaps even a by-product (which would suggest he needs to be carried to an extent and only plays well when things are rosey) .

He doesn't show up at times which is why I'd have him on the fringe of the first team and make him fight for his place. Make him one of the main players and he flops. Whether it is complacency, or he cannot cope with the pressure; who knows. But he has a major mentality problem.

His position change was for a handful of games whilst Coutinho was out and before his significant drop in form. That seems like a weak excuse to me.

I really like him as a person, and won't deny he is a good player, but I think he is the weakest link in our midfield and the first who would be replaced. Not that that makes him a bad player though; our midfield is probably one of the best in Europe and the main reason why we won all of our games against the big teams. Anybody who tries to play against us just gets outplayed.

Weak mentality is not a criticism exclusive to Lallana by the way. Mignolet, Lovren, Matip, Clyne, Lallana, Origi and Sturridge are all culprits. That doesn't mean I don't rate them, it just means I am aware of their weakneses. When the going gets tough, don't look to any of those players for leadership or a good performance. Why do you think Coutinho, Can, Gini, Mane, Firmino, Henderson and even Milner are so important to us? They all show up every week and don't ever shy away from the ball, responsibility, or a tackle. Milner isn't even a good footballer, but one thing you can never accuse him of is saying away from anything on the pitch. Some players just respond better to pressure than others. We need more players who can carry pressure and less players like Lallana and Lovren going forward who buckle. They are both very good players, just lack the mental fortitude to be key components of a team to win titles.

It's only my opinion though guys. I really do think the mental side of the game is vastly underestimated though.

29 Jul 2017 14:37:28
Lallana would be so much better if he didn't hold onto the ball for so long. I mean how many Cruyff turns can you do before passing. He slows down a lot of our play.

29 Jul 2017 18:35:27
not being funny MK, but must every post of yours be a novel?

29 Jul 2017 19:14:08
Adam is to quick responses what Lallana is to quick passing!

29 Jul 2017 12:14:30
ed025 what do you think about rooney do you think he will be better for you than he was for utd over past few years with getting more game time. remember ferguson saying he needs to play week in week out or he loses his fitness easy.

{Ed025's Note - i would like to think so grino and he does look fitter than he has for some time, i dont want him playing as a CF though mate as he has lost a yard of pace and for me should be playing off a target man...i want uncle farhad to splash a bit more cash and bring giroud in myself then i would be happy..

29 Jul 2017 14:24:30
Giroud doesn't have that yard of pace either Ed but in the box he's lethal from crosses and he hold up play very well in my opinion.

{Ed025's Note - i agree JQ and cant believe hes not a regular starter in what is a generally toothless arsenal side mate..

29 Jul 2017 09:14:23
Ed025

Are you about this morning mate. what's your thoughts on us ending interest in Keita? Pinch of salt?

{Ed025's Note - it could be a tactic MR but im not sure, maybe they will now wait until january and get him for £48m as it looks like leipzig are just messing around mate..

29 Jul 2017 12:11:04
they could be hoping Keita tries to push through the move his self. to give a bit more power to negotiate. as we are getting anyhere a bit like with VVd at Southampton not that that looks like it is helping. but we are not very good learning from are mistakes are we.

{Ed002's Note - There is no negotiation as they do not wish to sell the player.}

29 Jul 2017 13:17:01
Ed its very rare we or any clubs return for a player the following season and as youve said all along they won't sell him. Can we put this one to bed now?

{Ed002's Note - The situation remains largely unchanged. Other interested sides will look again to him when he is available but price will be a significant driver.}

29 Jul 2017 13:55:33
Will this potentialy increase the chances of Can staying now? I can't see that alternatives will be looked at, only 2 weeks before season starts.

{Ed002's Note - I would expect Can to stay.}

29 Jul 2017 14:20:17
Do you think he will sign a new contract as well ed002, or just see out the remainder?

{Ed002's Note - I really have no idea but the club will encourage him to sign.}

29 Jul 2017 14:41:54
Cheers ed002.

29 Jul 2017 08:28:55
Hi eds
Just to get away from the transfers for a min.
My farther in law ( sadly passed away now) was a great footballer in he's day he won lots of awards. we used to watch footie all the time. But he could read the game total differently to me. Alway point out where the team was going wrong.
this reminds me very much of you a totally different perspective on a game.
So I was wondering what are your back grounds. ex players, managers or just a love for the game like me.
As always thanks.

{Ed002's Note - It varies considerably. I am a rodeo clown and gentleman adventurer. A couple of the Eds are chimney sweeps and the rest are florists.}

29 Jul 2017 13:12:38
So you are accustomed to all this bull so Ed002 lol!

29 Jul 2017 13:04:27
Ed025 must be a florist. little petal he is.

{Ed025's Note - im actually a time served sweep andy, and often come home a little sooty mate..

29 Jul 2017 16:32:17
Ed025, watch out, Sue won't be pleased.

{Ed025's Note - i never had a hand in it zed.. :)

29 Jul 2017 10:28:55
I would be super happy with this window if we get van dijk with what we have got already. We would have addressed left wing, left back and centre back which were priorities. Can to sign a contract and coutinho to stay would be excellent. This with Henderson fit, Sturridge looking sharper, and if we can keep lallana couts and Mane fit all season there would be a lot to look forward too. And keep the 2 centre backs fit to build up a partnership. It was sooo disruptive all last season with Klavan playing far to much and Lucas having to fill in a good bit too which was hard 4 any pair to build up an understanding. YNWA onwards and upwards.

29 Jul 2017 11:43:32
I would be happy with one more signing coming in before the start that being a top CB.

29 Jul 2017 08:57:49
Personally (just my opinion I'm not claiming to be in the know) I think Barca's interest in Coutinho is being driven by them wanting to keep Neymar. If Neymar leaves, Barcelona will be missing a left sided forward. Personally I cannot see why they would break the world transfer record for Coutinho to play as a left forward (as an iniesta replacement yes maybe) . Not when there are players like Hazard and Sanchez (yes he could go back and is available for 40 mill) who are established world class forwards who can play on the left. As I've said I think Barcelona are trying to keep Neymar happy and are papering over the cracks of his tantrum. From what is being reported Barcelona cannot afford Coutinho unless Neymar went so I can see them striking a deal where he stays with us this season and then links up with his best mate Neymar next season keeping all parties happy to a certain extent.

29 Jul 2017 09:20:38
Barca are looking at coutinho because veratti is not for sale, I don't think they would spend possibly €100+ just to keep neymar happy.

29 Jul 2017 09:35:35
Sanchez would not go back there messi does not want him there that is why he left in the first place.

29 Jul 2017 09:41:31
Grino cheers for that. Every day is a school day. I was unaware that was he case. However my point being is Coutinho a world class left forward. I think he has world class abilities and potential to be a world class playmaker/ midfielder but for me he is not a forward. And Klopp must share the view as he just brought in Salah to play there.

29 Jul 2017 09:49:24
Coutinho wouldn't be a world record fee if Neymar goes to PSG.

29 Jul 2017 10:01:04
Gmil your point being Veratti is not for sale but neither is Coutinho. So why are they still chasing Coutinho? I never said Barcelona ain't interested in him I just believe it's being driven by their desire to keep Neymar. Losing Neymar will effect them for 10 years plus, on the pitch and commercially. Veratti is their first choice, Demble their second. So tell me why they have gone to their 3rd choice and would break the transfer record for him.

29 Jul 2017 10:11:06
Coutinho played his best football for us in midfield, and him playing there will help us breakdown teams that park the bus like burnley's and united 😊.

29 Jul 2017 10:16:40
you must be in the know, to know Klopp shares your views.

29 Jul 2017 09:34:37
Eds is the rumour linking us with Lanzini purely down to the fact of Barcelona's interest in coutinho or do u think we will bid for him no matter what?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach for Lanzini from Liverpool. If Coutinho were to leave I am sure they have plans, but I am not so sure that it involves Lanzini.}

29 Jul 2017 11:22:23
Klopp has said he wants to move Coutinho from wide to play more central and deeper. I'm no more in the know than you Grino who clearly has access to Messi, what with him telling you he doesn't want Sanchez there.

29 Jul 2017 13:09:27
Pretty sure I've read that it was Messi (spoilt brat) who didn't want Sanchez at Barca! What Messi wants, Messi gets!

29 Jul 2017 04:44:53
Anyone else hoping kent gets a look in for next season? Ojo and Wilson seem to out of favour and likely to leave on loan so Kent would be a good option to come from the bench and make an impact. Runs fearlessly at defenders and has a good cross on him. Worthy backup to Mane and Salah imo.

29 Jul 2017 14:23:15
It all depends on Klopp and what he thinks at the moment. We had youngsters on the bench last term but Klopp would not use them for diverse reasons. Kent may be talented and I like him a lot but it will depend on Klopp and if he has the bottle to throw them into a game where we need a result.

29 Jul 2017 14:25:11
he was good against the Leicester left back in the preseason game, he is still looking for the ball.

29 Jul 2017 01:24:25
There's a long way to go in this window so let's try be patient, difficult I know. There will be a lot more activity both in and out. All I want to say is that I have faith in macca and believe what he said two weeks ago. So far he has got two out of the four right in Salah and Robertson so plenty of time left for s full house from him.