Liverpool Banter Archive January 29 2011

 

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29 Jan 2011 23:31:41
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If it was just about playing Champions League football Torres could have played out this season. A move could have been done back to Spain or Italy.

In fairness I think Torres has felt like us during the month of January. No signings just rumours and long drawn out negotiations. He has probably become frustrated and snapped and thought what's the point. I don't blame him.

If Liverpool are to sign 1 more player or 2 before Monday it is frustrating that it is left until the end of the month. Someone should sit with him and explain what is going on and make a decision in the summer.

The stuff about Gerrard and Carragher is a load of bull I can assure you.

I really don't think Torres wants to play for Chelsea but is clearly frustrated like us fans

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29 Jan 2011 23:30:57
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I have just heard from my sources that liverpool have agreed a 48.6 mil fee for torres with the possibility of sturridge arriving aswell. with the money liverpool are going to bid for llorente for around 14 mil . i have a reliable source. BR

YOU BEEN TALKING TO YOUR TOMATO KETCHUP AGAIN!

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29 Jan 2011 23:28:44
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I see sky spurts are throwing 40 million around for torres, funny that neither parties have gone public with anything and suddenly they can dictate and manipulate fees.

ironic that sky sports is owned by a liverpool hating man u're fan.

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29 Jan 2011 23:27:48
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Whats happened to Bojan? I would pay £20m for him to potentially replace Torres. Bojan and Suarez. . sounds good to me

Kam

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29 Jan 2011 23:27:14
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I love Torres but I would rather him go now rather than him go at the end of the season. In my eyes he should never play again for us again.he should never of put in a transfer request on a Friday when it closes on a Monday. He is worst than michael Owen.Sell him and buy lavezzi perfect foil for Suarez. Torres is the past face it!

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29 Jan 2011 23:25:26
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Right, this talk of torres doing a u turn an sackin his agent are only half right. Torres an suarez have the same agent. Torres genuinely thought that the owners werent gonna sign anyone so he put in a transfer request when chelsea came in for him. So then when the suarez deal was agreed it showed that the owners were willing to invest and that his agent lied as he obviously knew about his other clients move here and was trying to get torres move anyway. So he has decided to sack his agent.

SANAN

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29 Jan 2011 23:25:05
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Macca

any ideas of the positions we are looking at or even players. .

I know for certain that n zogbia is seriously being considered

Panda

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29 Jan 2011 23:22:07
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If you ever read my updates i stated Lucas could be on his way to Villa Real, with Matuidi replacing him! Dont be suprised if you see this before monday!

Bennoman

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29 Jan 2011 23:21:19
If Torres does go then expect maybe a bid for Negredo. I said yesterday that if Torres does go we should ask for 50 mill and Anelka and i'd be happy. If Fernando stays till the summer and still wants to go, then expect Man.City to bid for him. If they do then we could get A.Johnson and Adebyour + 15-20 mill which looks like a better deal for me.

We probably won't get Llorente and neither will Spurs. As Real Madrid have a pre-contract with Llorente and Bilbao to buy him in the summer. This is the reason Mourinho is at war with Valdano at Madrid, because Mourinho wanted Llorente in the summer and was promised him in January. Adebyour is just a short term signing untill the summer and will not be signed by Real Madrid because they are getting Llorente in the summer.

This could be our forward line if Torres goes to Chelsea, Suarez, Negredo, Anelka and Ngog.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 23:20:23
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Lets be honest no-one has a f**king clue about the Torres situation, some say he's in Spain and the request was from his agent who has now been sacked, others think (including myself) that it is a legitimate story but LFC won't sell him untill the summer and not to Chelsea. and there are many more "rumours" being made up every second, i think we should all just wait untill it says something on the official website before we start cursing or cheering for our favourite rumour.
YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 23:17:39
{Editor Note: Aguero is a Liverpool fan and he has always said he wants to play in England. I see no reason why we couldn't get him if Torres left.}

Wages?

{Editor Note: Obviously an issue. There could be solutions.}

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29 Jan 2011 23:16:57
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SOTRIS NINIS cud b a good shout, looks like hecud b a vry good player and hes got a buy out clause of only 10 million euro!REDPANTS

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29 Jan 2011 23:16:18
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Suarez could play for AJAX tomorrow according to SSN

{Editor Note: He said he was preparing for the match against NAC until he heard that a deal had been reached between Liverpool and Ajax. It would be madness to play him.}

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29 Jan 2011 23:15:41
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ED PLEASE POST
Ed, what's going on with Suarez and torres? Has Suarez officially signed yet? And is torres staying till summer?

{Editor Note: Suarez is all but signed, and I don't know about Torres.}

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29 Jan 2011 23:14:39
There is no way Torres will be leaving in january(next 2 days) unless kenny is confident of signing another top class replacement. Aguero, Llorente, Gomes, Hulk, which is very unlikley in 2 days?
Hopefully we will go ahead and sign maybe 2 out of Young, Honda, N, Zogbia, Adam? and there is a surprise bid going in for a centre half?
So just to cap the evening off. . Fernando Torres will see out the season with Lfc and will give 100% and him and Suarez will be a dream partnership!

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29 Jan 2011 23:12:26
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Interesting that the Ashley Young rumors have started again. He was left on the bench for the entire game today when other first teamers like Albrighton and Downing came on. I would say that there is a 50/ 50 chance of him signing on for around 13 million pound. Now that the Asian Cup is over however, do not be surprised if Liverpool announce that Honda has been signed for 12 million. Liverpool could use both these players as wingers to inject some badly needed pace on the wings.

As for the Torres rumors, I can't help thinking that there is way more to this story than meets the eye. Rumor has it that this is over money as much as his perception that Liverpool would not get anyone in the transfer market. As for sending him to Chelsea, forget it. Liverpool and NESV would never send a player as good as him directly to a rival. Expect to see him in a jersey on Wednesday accompanied by a statement from Torres himself. Trust me on this one.

Barnesley

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29 Jan 2011 23:10:00
Ed i have seen that every time when asked who you think could replace Torres you say Aguero. Is this likely at all? I know if Torres was sold we could afford the buy out clause in his contract but would the owners be interested in him? would he be intrested in coming? and would the owners pay his big wages?

{Editor Note: Aguero is a Liverpool fan and he has always said he wants to play in England. I see no reason why we couldn't get him if Torres left.}

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29 Jan 2011 23:08:09
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Ed, can u tell me if suarez had has his medical yet

{Editor Note: I don't know mate - but he's already talking about Liverpool so he's all but signed.}

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29 Jan 2011 23:05:12
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Just read on Twitter that Man U might be looking to sign Charlie Adam. Ed do you reckon we could still get him or have we given up on it?

Capt Salty Grey

{Editor's Note: No idea I am afraid.}

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29 Jan 2011 23:05:05
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Evening all,

Does anybody know when the Suarez deal is to be actually finalised? - ED's do you think there will be any moves in market made tomorrow - or do you think it will be now left for Deadline day?

Cheers

Jamie

{Editor's Note: All on Monday.}

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29 Jan 2011 23:04:47
This is **e***** speaking
just been watching some vids of suarez wow have we got a player here he can score with both feet head and from anywere even pens and free kicks and plays with a smile on his face and not a care in the world just what we need looks like weve got ourselves a diamond here lets hope he adjusts to the prem if he does h*** me he could become the best ever and i mean it

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29 Jan 2011 23:03:47
Daniel Sturridge isn't that bad of a player and its time for him to move on if he wants to advance.

We should let torres join a bigger club that will allow him fulfill his potential as a worlds greatest striker. Liverpool should look to players like Sturridge as they rebuild.

40million plus Sturridge is very genius offer in this kind of market

Spot the chelsea fan :) bigger club?!?

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29 Jan 2011 23:03:33
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Just a few questions Ed, Do you think we will sign anybody else this window? And do you think torres will stay? If so, will he commit and give 110% week in week out? Thanks Reality_Red


{Editor's Note: Yes; No.}

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29 Jan 2011 23:03:09
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Lets be honest guys if the owners are about what they say they are then we can't lose. If Nando goes (which i hope he doesn't) we will get top whack and reinvest the money. If he stays we will still invest in the knowledge we have to, and in the fear that he will go if we don't invest. .Happy days are ahead please do not get dragged into the sh&te being bandied around. I am regular reader here (too often the missus reckons) and despite the carp directed at him Macca seems to be in the know and doesn't get a lot wrong. Believe him if you wish but if you don't believe him please don't slag him as this is a RUMOURS website and most of the rumours he posts become fact.

Dickie Di Doh

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29 Jan 2011 23:02:47
Hi ed, two things.

firstly, does anyone know anything about lavezzi? he seemed very good when we played napoli , and would probably want the move. replacement for torres?

also , just to clear something up. probably going to sound pretty daft here, but whats the difference between fsg and nesv, if there are any?

cheers mate, great site!

{Editor's Note: FSG is a trading name of the owners (NESV) in the UK.}

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29 Jan 2011 23:01:19
Macca do you know sharkey outside of this site?

Not sure mate why?

Macca

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29 Jan 2011 23:00:53
I think we should all be really nice to nando and make him want to stay. remember even stevie had his head turned once. lets not all persecute him let's remind him what he would be missing if he left. There is no benefit to us all lambasting him at all. . .

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29 Jan 2011 23:00:41
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Hey ed. Do you feel torres will definatly go if not this window in the summer instead or do you believe this could be similar to the misunderstanding of the gerrard saga 5 years ago and if he does stay he could be persuaded and promised to stay the long term in a hopefully bright future for the club.

{Editor's Note: I expect him to go.}

Believable - torres stays Unbeilvable - torres leaves

Thanks !

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29 Jan 2011 22:56:58
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I can confirm Liverpool have told Chelsea that they will accept a bid for Torres for 40m + abramovich

Em

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29 Jan 2011 22:56:11
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29 Jan 2011 22:34:15
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Jack Rodwell to sign on Monday, in the region of 12m, KK has been watching this lad for a long time, and after failing to get Charlie Adam, Rodwell would be the next best. my friend Mark told me about this.

Rookie

If Rodwell is 2nd choice and we're getting him for 12mil why haven't we bid 12mil for 1st choice Adam?? Odd logic to bid more for your 2nd choice than 1st? ?

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29 Jan 2011 22:55:35
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I pray im nt jst hopin this but if torres did submit ths transfer request thursday thinkin all of our promises were empty n we were nt goin 2 sign anybody then il 4 giv him 4 tht.if tht was the case then he will sack his agent 4 sendin it l8 2 and will defo change his mind.we'l c i spose.wat do u think ED?REDPANTS

{Editor Note: I don't think he'll change his mind.}

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29 Jan 2011 22:55:25
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1. Cristiano Ronaldo: Manchester United to Real Madrid - £80m (2009)
2. Zlatan Ibrahimovic: Inter Milan to Barcelona - £60.7m (2009)
3. Kaka: AC Milan to Real Madrid - £56m (2009)
4. Zinedine Zidane: Juventus to Real Madrid - £45.62m (2001)
5. Luis Figo: Barcelona to Real Madrid - £37m (2000)
6. Hernan Crespo: Parma to Lazio - £35.5m (2000)
7. David Villa: Valencia to Barcelona - £34.2m (2010)
8. Gianluigi Buffon: Parma to Juventus - £32.6m (2001)
9. Robinho: Real Madrid to Manchester City - £32.5m (2008)
10. Christian Vieri: Lazio to Inter - £32m (1999)
11: Andriy Shevchenko (£30.8m - AC Milan to Chelsea in 2006)

torres must be valued at 60 to 80million mark. anything less rip-off. starting point for a serious offer would be 60m, unless chelsea know the player will act like a child and force the move for alot less

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29 Jan 2011 22:54:52
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And the latest, Balague retracts on twitter from any comments made on the BBC mersey today.So the gist is we may not have a no. 9 for the remainder of the season as Suarez is not 9

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29 Jan 2011 22:53:21
Ed, hearing a few wispers about llorente and carrol.

If torres is sold in the summer, Who will lfc approach?

{Editor Note: For what we'd get for Torres it'll be someone big. I'd say Llorente or Aguero!}

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29 Jan 2011 22:49:56
Team vs Stoke on wed. . ??


Reina

Kelly. . . Agger. . . . . Skrtel. . . . Johnson


Lucas

Gerrard Meireles


kuyt. . . . . . Torres. . . . . . Maxi

Gulacsi, Suarez, Young?? , N, Zogbia?? , Cole, Aurelio, Adam?? ?

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29 Jan 2011 22:48:39
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G day all,

Can we Liverpool fans please stick together on this site, to often people are quick to point fingers and belittle individuals, everyone is entitled to an opinion let's show our own supporters the respect they deserve no matter what their IQ is, A quick word on Torres I personally don't believe he is wanting to quit look at the history of the blues bidding for our prized possessions even reina has been linked with the dirty manics even after commuting to Liverpool and his contact many times, let's stick together and hopefully the king will see us right.

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29 Jan 2011 22:48:36
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29 Jan 2011 22:34:15
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Jack Rodwell to sign on Monday, in the region of 12m, KK has been watching this lad for a long time, and after failing to get Charlie Adam, Rodwell would be the next best. my friend Mark told me about this.

Rookie

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This move will not happen, Moyles won't allow it, Especially when theres a pre-agreement for him to move to Manure in the summer.

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29 Jan 2011 22:48:09
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Well , apparently chelskea are gonna ofeer £60 mil for Nando and spurs gonna offer £25 mil for Carroll, i can see Torres staying put for now at least prob just a whinge and a sulk for better wages and another big name front man to share the work load with him, kinda can't blame him for that one though in all fairness guys, he's been ploughing away up front by himself too long now, Ngog (ha ), and kuyt has a foot like a fifty pence, likely to go anywhere off it! well anyways, i think he will settle down a bit now wit suarez arrival! but if he were to go to chelskea then i would let him go for £60 mil + boswinga! launch da £30 mil bid for aguero and try lure clint dempsey and kevin nolan! just my opinion, what do you tink ed and everyone else?
(please post ed) cheers!

Irish red, lfc the great!

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29 Jan 2011 22:43:53
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From theturdz we need to move quickly remember van der vaart
Harry Redknapp has acted quickly to head off a renewed challenge from Liverpool for Spain's Fernando Llorente by making an astonishing £26million bid for the Athletic Bilbao striker.

The Tottenham Hotspur manager, also linked with Newcastle's Andy Carroll, is understood to have made Llorente his top target in a deal which could go through before the transfer window closes at 11pm tommorow

One complication is that there could be competition from Chelsea if they fail to persuade Liverpool to part with Fernando Torres.

Bilbao president Fernando Garcia Macua has continually rebuffed efforts to prise Llorente away from his club. Macua is up for re-election this summer and knows it would damage his chances of a further term if fans' hero Llorente left.

But Spurs are aware of an escape clause in the player's contract and have made an opening bid in the hope of testing the water.

Following the signing of Luis Suarez, Liverpool were banking on Torres forming a strike-force with the Uruguay international and have turned down his transfer request, insisting he will honour his contract
form theturdz with his finger on the pulse

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29 Jan 2011 22:41:40
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Now the asian cup is finished .what are the chances of honda signing for us

what do you think ed

{Editor Note: Maybe not now mate, perhaps in the Summer.}

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29 Jan 2011 22:40:41
NEGREDO! Sign him up!

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29 Jan 2011 22:40:09
Daniel Sturridge isn't that bad of a player and its time for him to move on if he wants to advance.

We should let torres join a bigger club that will allow him fulfill his potential as a worlds greatest striker. Liverpool should look to players like Sturridge as they rebuild.

40million plus Sturridge is very genius offer in this kind of market

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29 Jan 2011 22:40:06
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ED here is what i gather from the torres situation. .
He wrote out the transfer request on tuesday after being disillusioned with the size of the transfer bids LFC were making and felt the club was not going to make any progress. However on the day when we signed suarez, Torres agent made a howler and handed in the request without consultation with torres.
Torres still not 100% if he wants to stay but sees the developments as progress and having second thoughts.
I think it still could go either way as he has alot to resolve with the club and i feel there is still a good chance of him staying.
Maybe Scare tactics gone extremely wrong!
If you use Twitter have you noticed the jornos are no where to be seen? Maybe they realize they have made a complete howler on this story and trying to put come up with a spin to put on it.
You prob think its farfetched but whats you opinion Ed?
RedRodge

{Editor Note: I think he wants out, end of. Wishful thinking on the fans' behalf}

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29 Jan 2011 22:37:39
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Please post on rumours page. .

Right, now to the business.

After a long negotiation period with Ajax, Comolli struck a deal with them to sign Suarez for £23m(initial bid £13.7m, they wanted £32m)- Comolli tactically put in a low bid to increase the chance for a compromise on Ajax's behalf. While all this happened, we had representatives of Liverpool trying to tie up a deal for Ashley Young. As soon as we struck the deal, Friday 1pm for Suarez, Comolli was on the first flight to Birmingham to try and wrap the deal for Young up. However, it was late Friday night that Comolli got to Birmingham to speak to Young/ Villa, just after Torres' agent had handed in Torres' written transfer request which was written on Tuesday(when it was looking unlikely that we were signing anyone). Young wanted to join, until he found out Torres wanted out. However a deal has been made, but it solely relies on the situation with Torres. Everything has been agreed, Young just needs confirmation from Dalglish and Comolli that Torres is going to stay(which he will). Holloway is being stern, but Adam will sign by Monday 11pm, for around 8.5m, an offer the owners cannot refuse.

The Torres transfer saga: Now, last Saturday, Torres was looking like he was up for the challenge ahead with Dalglish, scoring two goals. He seemed to have that extra sharpness, pace, and determination. 5 days later, and hes back to routine for this season. Lazy, not interested, no fight, determination, even when he scored(disallowed goal) he didn't seem too disappointed or argue like he normally does. The game ended, he didn't shake the opposition team's hands, nor the Liverpool team's hands. He walked straight through the tunnel, into the dressing room. Now he wrote the transfer request on Tuesday (day before the poor perfomance at Fulham), because he was clearly tapped up by Chelsea some time between Tuesday and after the Wolves game. Friday comes, and Chelsea make a bid. Torres tells Liverpool to listen to the offer, seeing what they say(even though he knows full well what they are gonna say). Liverpool say no, end of. Friday night, Ajax accept a bid for Suarez, and is given permission to talk to Liverpool. A couple of hours later and Torres' agent decides to hand in the TR. Torres realises that Liverpool are trying to get players, but it takes time to negotiate etc. He's now angry at his agent for handing it in so late, and he's now disrupted and ruined the great relationship between Torres and the supporters(which had already been tarnished, wanting to leave in the first place). Torres turns up at training next day thinking, 'What have I done?' Torres does a U-Turn and decides to refract the TR and will stay until the summer, to see what happens, and if the club are heading in the right direction, he might change his mind and stay for another season- taking it season by season.

So, to conclude, by Monday, Adam, Young, Suarez and Torres will be Liverpool players.

P.S These are all signings that Comolli and Dalglish have agreed on, both of them want the players.

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29 Jan 2011 22:37:25
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I think it is funny how stupid reporters are after listening to talksport this evening and they still think he has a release cause now if he did, he wouldn't bother putting in a transfer request because he knows he could of just let chelsea offer 50 mill and lfc would have to accept. And second lfc would of been stupid to put this in his contract and third they would be even more stupid if this was in his contract as they have said he is not for sale. So lfc are in control please pass this on to all reporters to stop there garbage about the release clause.

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29 Jan 2011 22:37:15
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Latest rumours doing the rounds! Torres had written a transfer request some time ago when Roy was in charge and made arrangements with his agent to submit it on his say so. The pretext was that LFC failed to invest in January and Roy was still boss. Once Kenny came in, as far as Nando was concerned, the request was put on hold. However, his agent had been negotiating with Chavski in the background. When it seemed Liverpool were not going to invest, Chavski made a move, when it was rejected, the agent acted without first discussing with Nando and submitted the request hoping to push a deal through. If LFC had considered it the agent was hoping that would persuade Nando. The agent has been sacked and Nando is more committed than ever. Only a rumour, but a strong one! Expect a statement from Nando tomorrow.
THE QUAGGAR

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29 Jan 2011 22:36:45
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I can confirm torres is staying till the end of the season were a discussion will take place about what to do regarding his future. in other news suarez passed his medical will play wednesday, and maybe with a new winger and defender! !

bennoman


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Please tell me how you can confirm this! You mean this is what you think?

Coxy.

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29 Jan 2011 22:36:42
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If you go on to Ajax's web site and look at the first team players, Luis Suarez's picture has been removed so i would say the transfer has benn finalised. Check if you disbelieve me.

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29 Jan 2011 22:34:32
Can macca please come out and say whether he thinks torres will be leaving and if the rumour of him sacking his agent is true, your info seems to be pretty reliable, cheers mate scouserlewy:) YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 22:33:48
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If Torres wants to go (which hasn't been confirmed and there seems to be conflicting rumours)

Why doesn't the club take the lead and go to Barca with a bid/ swap deal for Pedro and Bojan and 20mil/ 25mil.

Gives us too cracking young players and means Torres isn't playing in the PL.

(then a 25mil bid for Hulk with be my pick)

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29 Jan 2011 22:33:45
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I do believe fernando loves the club bt he loved his boyhood clb atletico much more and left them in search of a club where he could win things, frstrated with the state of or club and or prospect of challenging for major honours for the next few years is it little wonder he is looking at joining chelsea where he can trust abramovich to reinvest heavily and win some silverware

i for one don't blame fernando

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29 Jan 2011 22:33:20
In the last two days of the window. Prices normally drop as people try to get the deals done quickly. People cave in to turn a profit or clubs pay up to get what they need.

Anything can still happen. But lfc isn't about to pay too much for players.

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29 Jan 2011 22:33:11
Lads didn't torres say in 2008 that he would love to play for AC milan one day, i say offer him to them in summer, i wouldn't hate him as much then ha,
what u think ed? and i reckon suarez deal is all but done as he left melwood in a pool tracky,


jay b

{Editor Note: AC Milan can't afford Torres.}

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29 Jan 2011 22:32:41
What i find strange is if Chelsea are trying to replace their players due to them being old, this may take a few years to find all their required replacments and bearing in mind Torres is 27 in march by the time they have replaced most of their ageing players and are a force again he could be 29, and bearing in mind his style of play rely's on bursts of speed which is the first thing to go and with all the injury's he's had i would be surprised if his carreer lasts much longer than 31/ 32. I believe NESV's policy of buying no one under 25 is a good one and Chelsea are stupid for not doing the same.

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29 Jan 2011 22:31:12
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I heard that as kenny is care-taker manager. He will not be given any real money to purchase the players he wants. So he is stuck trying to get Charlie Adams and Warnock.

If Luis Suarez deal completes for 23m, then Torres is already out of the door or will be soon. IF kenny manages to keep him untill the summer then he has pulled of a miracle, but torres will leave.

LFC might not get the big money they are after.

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29 Jan 2011 22:29:49
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You are a mug if you think this and clearly know very little about what makes a good footballer. Young would be an outstanding signing for LFC and is exactly the type of player Liverpool has been missing for many years. If we could get Young, Adam and possibly Nzogbia, the 2nd half of this season would at least see LFC being am exciting attacking team. Can't wait to be on the Kop Wednesday to see Suarez! !

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In fairness, mate, Young isn't great. He can't cross and he hasn't played well in a big game for years. Plus, he's a massive ego and if he was any good he would have been snapped up by a big club years ago.
N'Zogbia, Young, Gerrard and Carra in the same team is a recipe for disaster. One will tick off the other and eventually we'll be have boxing matches at Melwood for the first time. We also have Suarez who has the potential to think of himself as a footballing God is he were to have a good season. You can only have so many egos in a team.

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29 Jan 2011 22:29:14
Also i think adam johnson is overatedand his feet are too quick for his brain, yes he is direct bt he rns himself into dead ends at times, i wold prefer milner though not neccesarily as a winger

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29 Jan 2011 22:29:14
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Ed, how long does it take for a Medical to be completed from start to finish? this is a general question. i don't care how long suarez' med takes as long as he signs by monday but still would like to know how long. .

{Editor Note: Don't know mate, a few hours?}

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29 Jan 2011 22:28:14
Hi eds do you think suarez will get the No 7 shirt how cool would that be being handed that shirt by the most famous person to ever wear it or will that fact be lost on him. I really do think that torres will stay at least till the end of the season if he goes he will want leave on good terms and not be hated by the fans who adore him.
Scouse born Irish Red
YNWA

{Editor Note: If he's playing that's all I care about!}

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29 Jan 2011 22:27:06
So two days left and i can t yet fathom the idiocy of deadline day, when clubs will be racing against time to get in the players they need, us included, i mean it can't take much more thna a few hours for a medical but there is a lot to putting a deal together, clubs need to agree players need to agree and medicals, so two days left, fernando prob won't be sold in this window but will almostly certainly be promised to be allowed to leave this summer. we will have signed suarez and that's it

not good enough! !

left wing has been a priority since riera left, left back an ongiong problem, defensive midfield another area of concern, a decent centre back is needed as skrtel is a calamity waiting to happen,

no wonder fernando is leaving, he said last season four to five top class players were needed, so far one has arrived, i m discounting meirels because masch left at the same time, to be honest if i were fernando i would be leaving also.

the owners have seen the state of our squad, they have seen the state of our season, they had 31 days to put that right, now they have 2

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29 Jan 2011 22:25:46
Comolli and KK at Melwood all day to contact potential replacement. Once agreed we will start talking to Chelsea. This is a last resort unless he changes his mind.

50m + Anelka.

Carroll, plus bid for Diarra on way I have been told

Mumbai Red

(1) (2)

i can confirm this i was outside melwood this morning talking to reporters & they said kk & comolli

were in very early this morning as torres was ofski to chelski.


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They were in very early early to meet and great suarez, reporters know as much as we do

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29 Jan 2011 22:24:12
Liverpool Rumours
Peter Crouch is high on Kenny Dalglish's agenda, from good source!

At 6'7" he's higher than most!

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29 Jan 2011 22:24:02
Macca do you know sharkey outside of this site?

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29 Jan 2011 22:23:34
Liverpool Rumours
Dont think there will be anymore action for us this transfer window, torres won't go yet, and adam won't be coming in.
id like to see aquilani come back in the summer tho, him meriles and gerrard wud be a great attackin combination.

anyway first things we need to look at now is keeping torres happy and signing a quality winger. wudnt mind bringing warnock back either on loan

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29 Jan 2011 22:22:38
29 Jan 2011 21:58:46
Liverpool Rumours
Here's my take on Torres:

I think that he won't be sold In January and we will try to convince him to stay next summer.If we fail, then the clubs that could get torres are limited. I believe he would not go back to Spain, even Barcelona or real madrid as his connections to atletico Madrid are too strong. So that really leaves it to England. Personally I think he will want and go to Chelski l, but I would love us to go to Man Citeh and get Johnson in the deal as he is not playing in the first team regularly and he would be a player who would take pride in wearing the shirt.

Johnson + 40m would be a great deal. Then personally i would go for aguero, turan and warnock (not the best but solid)

What do you think ed about the torres to Spain thing?

{Editor Note: I'd be happier if he went to Barcelona instead of Chelsea.}

lol we should offer him back to atletico madrid for aguero plus 15 mill lol what u reckon ed

{Editor's Note: He won't be going back to Atletico Madrid.}

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29 Jan 2011 22:22:06
Liverpool Rumours
Ballague did not say tores wrote it before suarez joined, he wants to leave and that's that. we won't sell him untill we hav an adequite replacement, and if he does hav 2 stay till summer, he will do his best for us until then, the lad didn't just start hating the club so relax lads.

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29 Jan 2011 22:21:40
Liverpool Rumours
Do we really need Anelka? ?I don't Sturridge for me if we have to take one!

Sturridge. . Believe

Anelka. . . .unbelieve

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29 Jan 2011 22:20:49
Liverpool Rumours
Dont worry people andriy voronin is coming back to solve all our problems who needs torres!

cry for help!

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29 Jan 2011 22:15:30
Liverpool Rumours
Comolli and KK at Melwood all day to contact potential replacement. Once agreed we will start talking to Chelsea. This is a last resort unless he changes his mind.

50m + Anelka.

Carroll, plus bid for Diarra on way I have been told

Mumbai Red

(1) (2)

i can confirm this i was outside melwood this morning talking to reporters & they said kk & comolli

were in very early this morning as torres was ofski to chelski.

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29 Jan 2011 22:15:16
Wheres everyone getting these Ashley young rumours from ed? Seemed to come out the blue! Tbh id rather have Igor biscan! Young can't cross a ball

BISCAN came good in the end

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29 Jan 2011 22:13:28
Liverpool Rumours
Any ideas on what happening with Suarez ed?

{Editor's Note: I am not sure what you are expecting.}

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29 Jan 2011 22:12:23
Liverpool Rumours
To the guy who said:

Wheres everyone getting these Ashley young rumours from ed? Seemed to come out the blue! Tbh id rather have Igor biscan! Young can't cross a ball

You are a mug if you think this and clearly know very little about what makes a good footballer. Young would be an outstanding signing for LFC and is exactly the type of player Liverpool has been missing for many years. If we could get Young, Adam and possibly Nzogbia, the 2nd half of this season would at least see LFC being am exciting attacking team. Can't wait to be on the Kop Wednesday to see Suarez! !

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29 Jan 2011 22:11:12
Apropos of nothing, Fabiano anybody?

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29 Jan 2011 22:10:25
Ed, suarez's sky comments are a bit iffy.

LFC are a beautiful club. He should be saying, I AM JOING THE BEST CLUB IN THE WORLD WITH THE GREATEST SUPPORT.

What do you think Ed lol?

{Editor Note: What do people expect? I'm sure his English is limited also.}

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29 Jan 2011 22:10:18
Liverpool Rumours
Torres will stay, Suarez will sign by Saturday, Adam will not sign as LFC will not go beyond "6.5m". LFC will sign a winger (top end poss Young).

I posted this info on Thursday, looking good so far!

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29 Jan 2011 22:10:09
I can't believe this, my heart is breaking :(

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29 Jan 2011 22:09:22
Liverpool Rumours
Has there been any news on Torres yet? The latest being that he has sacked his Agent over it all because he does not want to leave.

Heard anything yet Ed?

Cheer Mate
Ty

{Editor Note: Heard nothing.}

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SORRY LADS, BUT AS GUTTED I AM ABOUT TORRES ASKING TO GO, THIS STUFF ABOUT BLAMING HIS AGENT OR ADVISORS IS (NO DISRESPECT) STUPID. NO AGENT OR ADVISOR IS GOING TO ACT AGAINST THEIR CLIENTS WISHES, THEY WOULD NEVER GET WORK AGAIN! LIVERPOOL FC WERE, ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE BIGGER THAN FERNANDO TORRES AND OTHER OTHER PLAYER WHO ACTS THIS WAY. WE AREN'T THE MANCS OR ANY OTHER CLUB WHO'LL QUIVER AT THE PROSPECT OF A STAR STRIKER LEAVING. WE ARE LIVERPOOL FC, WE STAND ALONE ON A PEDESTAL, WE WILL BECOME STRONGER FOR THIS. 'YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE' UNLESS YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY TO STAMFORD BRIDGE. YOU COULD HAVE BEEN A LEGEND FERNANDO, MAYBE YOU STILL CAN BE!

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29 Jan 2011 22:09:14
Liverpool Rumours
Out:
jovanovic: 6mil
babel : 7mil
konchesky: loan
torres: 50mil plus anelka

in:
honda: 16mil
coentanaro: 12mil
arda turan: 8mil
aguero: 30mil

reina
johnson agger skertel coentanaro
meireless gerrard
turan honda
suarez aguero

just what i feel would improve our squad. believe if agree n wiseversa

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29 Jan 2011 22:08:31
Liverpool Rumours
If torres is goin 2 chelsea then lets get the best deal we can we dnt want sturridge or anelka lets try to get essien thrown in to the deal, A midfield of gerrard/ mereles/ essien quite appeals to me, If we get £50 mil for torres then let dalglish build a new team with it just like dalglish did in 88 when Rush left

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29 Jan 2011 22:07:32
Guys just put yourself in torres shoes for a minute, he has been promised for over a year that there would be investment, and no sign of it, so could you fault him, i am a Liverpool fan of over thirty years and it hurt when i heard the news but look what we went through with the two previous idiots that owned our club, the lad says he loves our club and if balague says it was before Friday that the transfer request was sent in an the suarez deal was done yday then everyone keep your powder dry because i for one think torres an suarez is a mouth watering prospect

YNWA
Gerrymac

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29 Jan 2011 22:07:30
Liverpool Rumours
Ed if Torres leaves do u think reina will follow him

{Editor Note: No mate. I think when Reina says he's committed he means it, and won't just do a u-turn when another club show the cash - like Torres has.}

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29 Jan 2011 22:07:09
Try not to worry fella I am sure everything is fine, he has probably just had to go back to holland to pay his milkman, redirect the post and cancel the newspaper, it's a big move so I'm sure Liverpool will give him a couple of days off to sort out his personal life

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29 Jan 2011 22:04:22
Whats wrong with the people at liverpool, uarez had his medical earlier today , why can't they jst come out and tell us something and put us out of our collective misery

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29 Jan 2011 22:04:05
Any news on what's going to happen with the stadiam? I think a bigger stadium could do more for the club than Torres, even though I love the guy.

We seem to solve one problem then a bigger one comes along. I was well happy Thursday morning, that lasted long lol.

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29 Jan 2011 22:03:19
Sauerez hpes to play against stoke. Skysport have just reported it

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29 Jan 2011 22:02:57
29 Jan 2011 21:40:22
Liverpool Rumours
Suarez severly lacking in match fittness hasnt played in weeks, hopefully we will see him against stoke
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Suarez has played in some of ajax friendlys in the winter break he played a bit against galataseraay last week or whenever

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29 Jan 2011 22:00:49
Liverpool Rumours
Torres won't be going until the summer because he wants to play with suarez and if he does go we should spend most of the money on aguero!

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29 Jan 2011 21:59:08
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed, what a crazy few days? Have you heard if suarez has signed/ completed medical? Hope Torres stays, if he does'nt then good luck to him. We are Liverpool FC the greatest club in the world! banjo boy

{Editor Note: Heard nothing about Suarez yet, but encouraging that he left Melwood in a Liverpool tracksuit.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:58:46
Liverpool Rumours
Here's my take on Torres:

I think that he won't be sold In January and we will try to convince him to stay next summer.If we fail, then the clubs that could get torres are limited. I believe he would not go back to Spain, even Barcelona or real madrid as his connections to atletico Madrid are too strong. So that really leaves it to England. Personally I think he will want and go to Chelski l, but I would love us to go to Man Citeh and get Johnson in the deal as he is not playing in the first team regularly and he would be a player who would take pride in wearing the shirt.

Johnson + 40m would be a great deal. Then personally i would go for aguero, turan and warnock (not the best but solid)

What do you think ed about the torres to Spain thing?

{Editor Note: I'd be happier if he went to Barcelona instead of Chelsea.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:58:12
Ed, one simple question.

Why does torres want to be in a dreeisng room with John terry and playing alongside Didier drogba whos best years are behind him and passing the ball to Frank Overatred Lampard whos also best years are behind him an thinks he is bigger than chelsea like Gerrard? Ed, Your answer mate?

{Editor Note: Phone Torres and ask him.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:55:15
Liverpool Rumours
Latest tweet from peter mcdowall. .

Just spoke to Guillem Balague, he says FT is frustrated at speed of new owners making changes, at 27 he thinks it could come too late for him

This interview will played on peters programme on Radio Merseyside.

The agent sacking and uturn is a rumour not one of the sports journo's are tweeting this. Quite a few of the well known LFC fans are fishing for this rumour to be true but all are hitting a blank.

Breathe still being held for the inevitable bad news,

Mrs Ngog

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29 Jan 2011 21:53:57
Liverpool Rumours
Guys.

My dad's mate works for william hill head office and they have have stopped taking bets on torres joining chelsea.

and also. charlie adam was told he can talk to Liverpool.

he is on his way! !

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29 Jan 2011 21:53:49
Liverpool Rumours
Ballague says Torres wrote trans request before Suarez deal done, cos he thought we weren't signing anyone. Agent handed it in after. .

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29 Jan 2011 21:52:10
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, with all this torres saga, will we still get adam mate?

{Editor Note: I personally think we will if we're in for him.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:51:45
Can someone please tell me when the transfer request was handed in? ?! ! ED OR MACCA?? And why is Torres in Spain?? And is it true what Balague said? And is it true that Suarez will give SSN an interview at 11pm? Sorry for all the questions.

King Kam

{Editor Note: It was said to be handed in befor Friday.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:51:34
Liverpool Rumours
Ed what do you think will happen with Torres?

{Editor Note: I think he'll be sold.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:50:45
This whole thing could go either way, and I'm not sure what the current silence suggests to be honest.

All I do know is that if I were Kenny I would be urging Nando to consider fully what going to CFC would mean.

All of their main players are the wrong side of 30, they are struggling to get top 4 this year (as are we), and unless he or his wife has some big urge to live in London, he would be best placed at LFC at the very least for the rest of the season.

I would also be sharing with him LFC's plans to build a side able to challenge for the top 4 this year and the league next season.

Reina

Kelly Carra Agger Johnson

Mereiles Gerrard Honda

Suarez Torres Young

with Adam and N'Zogbia possibly coming in too!

Add to that a very strong youth set up with Pacheco, Suso, Shelvey, Amoo, Ecclestone, Wilson and Ince all showing signs of being the next generation of stars.

The future at LFC is bright.

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29 Jan 2011 21:49:12
Liverpool Rumours
Just typed Liverpool FC news into google and Crunchsports have come up and reckon we have enquired about Niang from Fernebace? He is even quoted as saying he is 'flattered'

ED - Have you heard this?

{Editor Note: Not heard much about it mate - but it doesn't add up for NESV to sign a 31 year old given their comments when they came.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:49:06
Liverpool Rumours
Hi macca,

You said you think there'll be a few more signings before the end of the window, would you like to enlighten us more ;) lol

Thanks mate :)

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29 Jan 2011 21:46:09
Liverpool Rumours
I wouldn't sell torres for anything in my opinion he's worth a lot more than 50 mil closer to 70 mil

- three theroise that i have got ED's

-Torres is doing a rooney or tevez for a better contract

-He and Daglish have had a chat and he is doing it to force the owners hands

-And finally he and Daglish are stringing Chelsea along and at the end chelsea get nothing

i just dunt think it makes sense him comitting his future playing welll and then us signing Suarez for him to then want to move on.I think it his all his agent and that he will come out and commit his future

PLus i wish people wud giv the guy a break thanks for posting ed's plz post on rumours page and wt do you think and wt dus the mighty macca think ?

{Editor Notre: Sorry mate, I think thats wishful thinking.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:44:14
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 21:34:55
Liverpool Rumours
Peter Crouch is high on Kenny Dalglish's agenda, from good source!

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You correct, Kenny would have to be high to have Crouch on his agenda. .

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29 Jan 2011 21:40:38
Wat u reckon to rumours hes sacked his agent and only handed his agent the request a few days back b4 the chelsea bid and only cos he thought lfc wasnt buying no one to help him up front, and that now hes sacked him hes taking back his request
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No idea mate, if that's true then i think he will stay till the summer.

I have no way of finding out.

The only thing i know is that he was desperate to leave but you never know circumstances change.

Macca

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29 Jan 2011 21:40:22
Liverpool Rumours
Suarez severly lacking in match fittness hasnt played in weeks, hopefully we will see him against stoke

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29 Jan 2011 21:40:17
Macca mate.

Is it true that torres was impressed the the chinese business man's bid for the club and he has no belief in NESV helping the club to challenge. .Also if torres does want success why is he soo keen to leave now and go to chelsea who i believe to be in a decline with the terry, lampard best years behind them. Surely there going to have to rebulid again?

Also Macca mate who do you think we should sign for torres' replacement?
Tommo

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29 Jan 2011 21:40:12
Liverpool Rumours
If Andy Carroll is worth £23m then surly chelski wil have to throw a cheeky 100,000,000,000, 00 gatrillion bazillion decadrillion for Torres.

5times*****

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29 Jan 2011 21:39:57
Ed what do u think on Ballague's recent comments?

{Editor Note: What ones?}


Regarding him saying the transfer request was written before the Suarez Deal but his agent submitted it after

{Editor Note: I think Balague is up his own backside and doesn't know half as much as he lets on. That should answer your question mate.}

ha ok cheers mate

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29 Jan 2011 21:39:16
Liverpool Rumours
Question for macca . . Do you think we will sign young this window?

LFCmatty

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29 Jan 2011 21:38:35
Liverpool Rumours
Although I don't necessarily agree with all the twitter rumpled about Torres doing a u-turn and sacking his agent, etc. I do find it interesting that there is no mention of this on SSN. This is interesting considering that the 'Torres wants out' rumours all started on twitter! Granted the twitter source was from Balague who is a sky sports rep, but there is also no mention of his comments on radiocity that the transfer request was prepared before the announcement of luis Suarez being signed.

I don't regard any of this to be proof that Torres has changed his mind but the fact it gets no mention is another indication of just how anti-Liverpool SSN are. The second any rumours of turmoil show themselves they are all over it but any signs of something good is ignored unless it's proven to be 100% correct. I'd also wager that in the unlikely event of Torres deciding to stay, the first thing they will do is talk about what could happen in the summer! Also, all we are going to hear about from them regarding Suarez is how much he cost, especially any time he doesn't score. Remember how much they harked on about it with aquillani? Yet no mention of it with Hargreaves at united, or Anderson at united, or berbatov (who is only now proving his worth) at united, or carrick at. . United! Sorry this has turned into a bit of a rant but I really hate our biased media.

So to sum up: SSN are very biased

Redfish

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29 Jan 2011 21:38:30
Liverpool Rumours
Macca,

Thanks for clearing the situation about Torres late evening today. I respect you and follow you only on this website. I can go to sleep peacefully hoping for a better future of Liverpool and writing a chant for a new no.9. The hope is good and strong because of KK at helm and not RH. So we can all be optimistic here and look forward to a great clash next Sunday with Chelsea.

Ed, I do not understand when people always adhere to Macca then why r they believing these rumors about Ballagues interview which can only be a publicity stunt from him in order to avoid the wrath of LFC fans.

It is over, he is gone and best wishes for his career at Stamford Bridge.

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29 Jan 2011 21:37:36
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed great site. If Torres leaves and we get the 40 or 50 million what ever it may be, it won't be enough to replace Him. In my eyes he's even though he's having a bad season the best striker in the world . There's names like agureo and benzema being talked about , but I'd rather have el nino. I hope he has a change of heart. It's like this if he loves Liverpool he'd stay , I'd forgive him if he changed his mind , just like we all did with gerrard. Joelfc1892

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29 Jan 2011 21:36:57
Liverpool Rumours
"Balague just said on Radio City. . Said request was written before Suarez deal was done & agent submitted. Glimmer of hope""

stop getting peoples hopes up I've had city on all day and from 6 o'clock radio city weekend has been on dance music with no news or sport in fact les Calvert is currently on

Liverpool1981

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29 Jan 2011 21:36:53
Ed what do u think on Ballague's recent comments?

{Editor Note: What ones?}


Regarding him saying the transfer request was written before the Suarez Deal but his agent submitted it after

{Editor Note: I think Balague is up his own backside and doesn't know half as much as he lets on. That should answer your question mate.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:36:12
Liverpool Rumours
I said months ago that Young would be comming. However, GH has said he isn't for sale as recently as two weeks ago. so I think it will be the summer before he comes. If the rumours are true regarding verbal intimidation are true and that is the reason for torres request to leave then those doing the intimidation should also leave. There is NO player bigger than the club. However I thing Nando has great respect for kenny and it will blow over. But I feel his days are numbered in the long run. Unfortunately NZOGBIA looks like a goer, not for me I'm afraid would sooner see honda
hol

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29 Jan 2011 21:35:45
Liverpool Rumours
Dont worry fellow reds, if Nando does want to leave then he will be the loser!
We are in a major rebuilding phase with one of the most passionate reds at the helm and new owners who are shoeing with their activities in this window that although they do not have the blank cheque book pf Citeh, they are prepared to invest in the team.
If he goes, King Kenny will have a large wad of cash to splash on players a la Aguero who will have more of a consistent impact home and away.
If he stays, then he will know that the fans will expect more of him and will not give him an easy ride if he is not performing and hopefully he will work even harder.
Don't worry lads, the club is far bigger than any player.

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29 Jan 2011 21:35:28
I notice ssn aint reporting the rumour about torres retracting his request!

t***ers! !

KNOWITALL

YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 21:35:06
Liverpool Rumours
Omething isn't right. . .

Doesn't Torres share the same agent as Suarez? If so, why would his agent allow or put a transfer request in on his behalf if he knew that Suarez was coming in for a medical so it seems this sacking of his agent may not be all that true.?

What do you think ed?

I may be wrong about the agent thing though.

Thanks Lee

{Editor Note: I didn't know they shared the same agent.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:33:40
Dont no if torres wants to stay or go but looks like the liverpool board r standing firm shows we don't need the money and were looking to build a winning team for the future well done ps thank god them two clown s r not in charge we would nt have seen a penny of the 40 mil straight to rbs

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29 Jan 2011 21:33:36
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 21:15:23
Reports say liverpool are asking for cash and anelka for torres are you mad why would you want anelka he past it if anelka gonna lead your attack your going backwards

anelka is a good striker and would do us till summer with suarez if it happens the chelsea bid i mean,

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29 Jan 2011 21:32:12
Liverpool Rumours
Ballague says Torres wrote trans request before Suarez deal done, cos he thought we weren't signing anyone. Agent handed it in after. .

will let you know when i know. .

Bennoman

If that was the case he would have waited until the Suarez deal fell through then handed it in. That would have saved face for him.

Sooty.

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29 Jan 2011 21:32:09
Liverpool Rumours
All you guys saying l/ pool have agreed a fee plus player for torres its all bull. . . l/ pool will just keep saying get lost to chelski everytime they put in a offer for torres and if they keep doing it chelski will walk away! ! well i hope they do but the point i, m making is that l/ pool will not except an offer they wull fight 2 the end to keep torres. . . . . woolster red

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29 Jan 2011 21:31:41
Liverpool Rumours
Hearing a lot about the agent sacking any one else hearing this, what do you think ed
jacky boy

{Editor Note: Lies if you ask me.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:30:35
Liverpool Rumours
Posted this a while back but didn't get published.

I named five players likely to join the club in January/ summer.

Suarez, A Young, Sturridge, Cazorla and M'Vila.

Also suggested Torres was off.

Also said don't be surprised to see Reina to Arsenal with Walcott certainly part of any deal and possibly Kieran Gibbs as well.

Pie In The Sky Man ?

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29 Jan 2011 21:30:32
Liverpool Rumours
Apparently suarez passed medical hours ago, did an interview with SSN which will be aired 11pm , and he is now back in holland.

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29 Jan 2011 21:29:53
Liverpool Rumours
Plz ed tell me whats goning on with torres
Is he stayin or going havin looked at SSN all day don't want to either
So if u could take a little time for me an let me no the good/ bad news Cheers ed

Dubpool

{Editor Note: I don't know mate.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:29:45
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Liverpool and Chelsea press conference between 6pm and 7pm? ? Why do people post sh#te rumours
I find it strange that there has been nothing from the player, this is all speculation
I don't think Torres will leave Liverpool, we can expect the arrival of Charlie Adam, Ashley Young, and a left back
Look at the bigger picture, Liverpool are building for next season, Torres will have assurances of this and will stay to see out the last 2 years of his contract at least
KK if still in charge next season will deliver the premier league title within 2 seasons

Please post this

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29 Jan 2011 21:29:12
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I have nothing but respect for Torres, and no i am not going to slag him off. If he's not happy at the club then let him go now and quickly sign a striker, someone like aguero or llorente would be appealing. Torres is 26 years old and hasn't even won any silverware as a Liverpool man. We can get by without him, just need a couple of fast wingers and a backup striker, which would be available with the cash from the Torres sale. The sale of Torres may bring more success into the club, the squad will expand giving us more choices, the only thing Liverpool are lacking are creative players and a left back. King kenny is already doing a great job with the players we already have, just with a few more additions we could be challenging for the top 4, or maybe even the title next year. Anyway we can get by without Torres so stop worrying everyone.

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29 Jan 2011 21:28:55
If macca says he's confident Torres will leave this window, I'm happy to assume he's already gone! So let's look forward peeps and hope Suarez will be a goal machine.

Personally I think 50mill would be a great deal for us but I will miss standing on the Kop bouncing to. . . Fernando Torres Liverpool Number 9

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29 Jan 2011 21:28:33
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Funny how ssn have now not got anything at all
On the home screen regarding Torres!
You would think the biggest story of this window they would be make more of the usual BS up about this and that?
Makes you think they might now know he is not going anywhere with a bit of luck?
Comments please

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29 Jan 2011 21:28:15
29 Jan 2011 21:13:37
Hi Macca, love your work. What do you reckon is the real reason he wants out (if you believe he really wants out not just trying to force NESV's hand)

I met Nando in SA (during WC - Spanish team did a little PR stint - I chatted to Nando for about 15min and I'm telling you, he only spoke about LFC the whole time. And it was genuine affection for the club. I can't believe whats happening now. And I really don't think he is a money grabbing thug. So whats really up?

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Hi Mate,

I know he an Benayoun held talks with Chelsea last March/ April and if he had not got injured in the summer there was a very good chance would have signed then.

I also believe he loves the fans and the club but does not have the same loyalty as a local lad.

If we where challenging for the champions league on a regular basis i don't think he would give leaving a second thought.

I am pretty sure he is not motivated by money, just success.

It is just a shame we are in a transition stage at the moment. .

Macca

wat u reckon to rumours hes sacked his agent and only handed his agent the request a few days back b4 the chelsea bid and only cos he thought lfc wasnt buying no one to help him up front, and that now hes sacked him hes taking back his request

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29 Jan 2011 21:27:43
Eventhough we don get a replacement for torres their is something we have never tried:'play jovanovic up front'my idea may b crazy but we can use him at least till d end of d season or even kyut self!let's not b dissapointed liverpool fan torres might go but it might bring glory to d club!if I was kk I will try to get kalou in d deal!pls ed post this

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29 Jan 2011 21:27:18
Hi Mate,

I know he an Benayoun held talks with Chelsea last March/ April and if he had not got injured in the summer there was a very good chance would have signed then.

I also believe he loves the fans and the club but does not have the same loyalty as a local lad.

If we where challenging for the champions league on a regular basis i don't think he would give leaving a second thought.

I am pretty sure he is not motivated by money, just success.

It is just a shame we are in a transition stage at the moment. .

Macca

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Surely 3-4 top players coming in during the window and giving us a great chance of making top 4 next year could change his mind? (Maybe that is what he was promised by NESV and part of his gripe? 3 days before window closes? ) Or is it a foregone conclusion he is leaving?

I really hope he stays. We can't replace an in form Torres.

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29 Jan 2011 21:25:40
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Ashley Young on Monday morning and N'zogbia aswell.
Also all this about Torres, he is going, liverpool and chelski are hammering out a deal right now, it was made public in the hope that there would be a price war. . if he did not want to leave then LFC and Torres would of gone public by now. Deal will be in the region of £45million plus Anelka.
No other striker will be bought in this window, Anelka can still score the goals and will link up well with Saurez.
Honda maybe, that will be enough to challange for 4th.
Summer will see a major clear out including Gerrard £15-23 million, NESV will cash in on him.
KK has a very good chance to stay as manager if he finishes 4th or just misses out.
Carra will take more of a coaching role next season.

KJC

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29 Jan 2011 21:25:40
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All quiet on the north western front i see. They say no news is good news. Cant see LFC website releasing details of Torres transfer request unless they plan on selling him asap. Why cause a storm in a tea cup for no reason. Lets just hope and pray that the manager and board have got a replacement readily available to come straight into the team. fingers crossed eh.

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29 Jan 2011 21:24:06
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Ed why has there been no news on suarez's medical? been waiting all day

True Red

{Editor Note: Don't know mate.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:23:35
29 Jan 2011 21:06:47
What is happening with the Suarez deal? He left Melwood hours ago, albeit in a Liverpool training top but that means nothing as wot else would he do a medical in? Now I hear he did an exclusive interview with ssn bein aired at 11pm. He is back in Holland now.
Something must have gone wrong.
Why is the deal not announced on lfc site or on .tv?
I have a funny feeling the deal is dead.
Wot do u think ed? Does this all not sound ominous?

NiRed

{Editor Note: I think people need to be patient and are getting abit panicy! All seems to be going well and I'm confident he'll be signed.}
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29 Jan 2011 21:23:08
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So Torres wants to leave! Fine. But he should leave on the club's terms, not his.
I'd like him to stay and I think he should. But I'd prefer to talk about the players who want to be at Liverpool and be proud to wear the shirt rather than the ones who are jumping ship.
First there's Gerrard. He has run the show at Liverpool for ten years. Whenever we have gone through slumps in form he has took games by the scruff of the neck and changed things with his feet on the pitch, not by walking away.
Then there's Carragher. For years he was treated as a utility player whilst others were preferred ahead of him. Did he complain? No. He played right back, left back, centre back; he probably would have taken on the role of goalkeeper had he been asked to.
And both players have had their loyalty rewarded with numerous medals including the Champion's League.
But it's not just players who have come through the ranks at the club who have shown loyalty. There are players who have joined more recently who have been just as loyal.
Reina, for example, hasn't used our poor performances to sulk. When Stevie and Jamie eventually step down, he is the natural person to take over as captain. His leadership qualities have been demonstrated countless times. He has inspired team huddles, encouraged players to have confidence and generally played with the passion that any Liverpool player should.
And even Lucas. Although he's not everyone's cup of tea he has gradually improved and turned in many solid displays, particularly over the last year. Again, the lad has never complained about his position in the team, neither when he was starting games on the bench, nor when he was slated and his performances were being compared unfavourably with those of the excellent Alonso. He just kept working away, glad of the chance to be a part of the club, and slowly he's started to win the fans over.
Even now, with only an outside chance of qualifying for next year's Champion's League, players are showing that they would love the opportunity to play for Liverpool.
Both Suarez and Adam pleaded with their clubs to let them join us.
This was particularly positive in the case of Suarez as he was already challenging for a league title with Ajax yet he was still excited by the prospect of playing for us.
No player should ever become bigger than Liverpool Football Club, no matter how good they are. Because for every player who runs around the pitch with a scowl on his face, for every player who isn't happy and for every player who hands in a transfer request, there are many more who would give anything to be at our club and wear the famous shirt.
Even if Torres decides to stay after all, I think this drama would have left most of the fans with bad taste in their mouths and things won't be the same.
So EL Baby you can go! !

What do you think RED Fans?

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29 Jan 2011 21:21:26
I just can't see torres going to chelski, i think man city won't let it happen and will beat any bid chelsea make, and if it meant we got a good price maybe a player as well and it stopped old red nose getting to 19 then it wouldn't seem so bad.i would rather city won it than manure or chelski, rob

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29 Jan 2011 21:21:23
By the way Macca other than on here , do you know Sharkey? xx7


No mate.

Macca

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29 Jan 2011 21:20:24
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29 Jan 2011 21:05:44
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Ballague says Torres wrote trans request before Suarez deal done, cos he thought we weren't signing anyone. Agent handed it in after. .

will let you know when i know. .

Bennoman

wander if its true if so then the rumours of him sacking his agent and cancelling his request might be true lol

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29 Jan 2011 21:18:56
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Are all these rumours about young because he didn't start today or is there something a bit more concrete behind them. Please reply ed. Cheers.

Nugget

{Editor Note: Don't know mate.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:17:47
Hi Ed,

Do you not think that Nando is maybe being a little pushy to get things happening at LFC (perhaps as he was promised). If we get 3- 4 players in that give us an excellent chance of top 4 next year - won't he be more than happy to stay?

Chelsea are not guaranteed of top 4 this year. So I don't get it. If it is money related, up his contract. Isn't he a little low in wages vs other top CF's in europe? I mean common, we know only the local scouse lads are willing to play for LFC for free.

{Editor Note: He's been unhappy for a while but it seems as if he has no faith that NESV will make Liverpool challenge.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:16:06
I really do like charlie adam but we honestly should be looking at NURI SAHIN OF DORTMUND. please look at his game today against mclaren's wolfsburg and see how much class he truly is.
wonderful throughball to gotze for him to pick outbarrios
then he scores a goal based on pure determination to get into the box from the center circle through tackling the center half
and thirdly whips in a beautiful ball from a second attempt on the corner for the third
plzzzzzzzzzzz check this out on matchhighlight.com
ive been looking at him all season he's CLASS

wat do you think ed ur honest opinion?
sahin in our midfield?

{Editor Note: He's a top player.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:13:37
Hi Macca, love your work. What do you reckon is the real reason he wants out (if you believe he really wants out not just trying to force NESV's hand)

I met Nando in SA (during WC - Spanish team did a little PR stint - I chatted to Nando for about 15min and I'm telling you, he only spoke about LFC the whole time. And it was genuine affection for the club. I can't believe whats happening now. And I really don't think he is a money grabbing thug. So whats really up?

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Hi Mate,

I know he an Benayoun held talks with Chelsea last March/ April and if he had not got injured in the summer there was a very good chance would have signed then.

I also believe he loves the fans and the club but does not have the same loyalty as a local lad.

If we where challenging for the champions league on a regular basis i don't think he would give leaving a second thought.

I am pretty sure he is not motivated by money, just success.

It is just a shame we are in a transition stage at the moment. .

Macca

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29 Jan 2011 21:12:55
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I think i started the rumours from a good source villa staff . . . for people doubting young check out sky stats top five asseasted players over the past 4 to 5 years good goal scoring record for a winger. .
And who ever said he can't cross? ?? ermm on the season he came top of the assist list villa was well known for scoreing from corner sand freekicks and who took them all YES AHSLEY YOUNG CHECK IT OUT ITS ALL IN BLACK N WHITE I NO SOME PEOPLE DONT RATE HIM BUT THESE R FACTS. .
ED WILL TELL YOU IF HE DOSE HIS RESERCH. .

REDTED

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29 Jan 2011 21:08:56
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Transcript of interview on radio city with ian snodin and guillem ballgue
fro theturdz

He says that the players are the stars of the show on and off the field. he even suggested to Saint john that the players of 40 years ago would have took advantage in the same way they do today. dummy out toys out iwant out and its my show and im off. .

Snods (an evertonian for those who don't know) went mental, To suggest that St John would be so dis-loyal, a man who paid the rent of struggling past players, when he himself helped set up the players union.

Balague went on to say he knows Fernando wanted out in the summer, he spoke with him in South Africa and suggested that Liverpool were 5 years from winning trophies and that he should move on. and he WANTED the city move!

Balague said its dis-appointing as a fan that Liverpool are not showing any Ambition.

Snods then came back with, They have new owners, no debt, lots of money and a new world class signing to start going forward. .He said Chelsea have Lampard 32, Drogba about to turn 33, Terry 30, Malouda 30, Ashley Cole closing in on his twighlight and the rest are average players on the wrong side of 27.

Balague suggested that Chelsea are showing ambition by trying to get Torres

Balague then sugggested that Torres will go into training tomorrow and may be thinking what have i done, Balague reckons that the transfer request was written before Friday and before the rapid Developments in the Suarez deal occurred, however Torres agent submitted the Request after all this when it should have been submitted before hand.

Balague is now in a position were he has no idea were the saga is going after he was the one to break the news early on friday.

He kept saying Fernando Loves the club he Loves the fans, but he is 26 and can't wait til he is 30-31 to start winning titles.

I say watch NESV and Liverpool fc go, with or without our star striker within 12 months
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29 Jan 2011 21:08:51
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Ed what do u think on Ballague's recent comments?

{Editor Note: What ones?}

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29 Jan 2011 21:08:14
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ha van bommel (spell) has been sent off first game. So glad we didn't get him what a waste of space he would have been. Might have been worse than poulson. Hope torres stays Atleast till summer then if he wants to go all the best.
Please no fans slag him of you sound like manc fans when Rodney wanted to go.

LAVERS

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29 Jan 2011 21:07:53
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Macca or ed. . I've lost hope of torres staying but surely they won't sell without replacement? With babel gone and Luis Suarez cup tied who would lead the line. . Macca u hinted that we may see more players this window. Any info or hints?
Wouldn't mind seeing cattermole tbh Yes he's hot headed but he reminds me as a young gerrard and playing next to him surely he can only thrive. .
Wouldn't mind Honda or turan either. .
Torres replacement i can only see llorente or aguero

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29 Jan 2011 21:06:47
Editors and particualry fans favourite Macca.(Husband is a LFC supporter) and I have my sources

Torres will leave during this transfer window for about 50m, maybe a player thrown in aswell.
However, as LFC fans loved torres so much, think an explanation needs thrown out there. He is leaving the club as there is a huge amount of unrest between certain players in the club and he doesn't want to be in the same environment as them, that is all I will say. As for going to chelsea, if a certain barcelona were to be interested, they would be blown out of the water. This is the only club for THE MOMENT that he has a chance to go to.

Ashley, the reporter

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29 Jan 2011 21:06:47
What is happening with the Suarez deal? He left Melwood hours ago, albeit in a Liverpool training top but that means nothing as wot else would he do a medical in? Now I hear he did an exclusive interview with ssn bein aired at 11pm. He is back in Holland now.
Something must have gone wrong.
Why is the deal not announced on lfc site or on .tv?
I have a funny feeling the deal is dead.
Wot do u think ed? Does this all not sound ominous?

NiRed

{Editor Note: I think people need to be patient and are getting abit panicy! All seems to be going well and I'm confident he'll be signed.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:06:17
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Radio city.

Torres's request was written before the suarez deal was confirmed.

still makes no difference, Torres will go.

Llorente will replace him

FACT!

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29 Jan 2011 21:06:16
29 Jan 2011 20:59:04
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Ed, have you heard anything solid of Man City jumping in on Torres? If they offer 50 million + Johnson - me thinks that would be hard to turn down.

Then use that money for Turan and Honda, and pair Suarez up front with either Aguero or Llorente - that would be enough to make me get over losing our number 9.

I'm gutted talking about Torres leaving, but if used correctly, the money could help us get to where we want to be in a hurry.

{Editor Note: I doubt City will come in, they've just signed Dzeko.}

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Wishful thinking people. mancini likes Johnson. Why would they add him? They would rather just bid 80m straight! Torres is not a thug like Adebayor & co and won't leave for money whilst sitting on the bench. And ManC won't win anything so why would he go there?

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29 Jan 2011 21:04:37
Fernando Torres has been the most prolific goalscorer in the Premier League since 2007, with 65 goals. More than Drogba, Rooney, Tevez etc.
And that is with many bad injuries, and much less service than any of the above mentioned.
Yes we will probably in the end manage to replace him adequately, but it might not be as easy as some of you think. And in my opinion, Torres would NEVER disrespect Liverpool Football Club or King Kenny, so before all of you hurl abuse at him, just think about why you have loved him so much. There MUST be a valid reason or occurence in the past few days that has led to him handing in a transfer request. Maybe his agent is behind it, maybe its tactics, or maybe im being naive and in denial about recent events. But I will reserve judgement and abuse for someone who has always showed passion and love for LFC and its fans until his reasons are heard. He has also carried us through THREE SEASONS (Dont know why some say the first two only, he scored 22 goals in 32 gameslast season and was the only positive). One last thing, can anyone tell me EXACTLY WHEN was the transfer request handed in? Was it Thursday or Friday after we signed Suarez? Because for me, the timing is key to understanding the situation. I might get slated for my post, but I don't care. Please post and reply Ed. Thanks.

King Kam.

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29 Jan 2011 21:01:33
Liverpool Rumours
Ed's and macca, what do you think our chances are of the following signings.
Keisuke Honda
Charlie Adam
Stephen Warnock
Karim Benzema
Fernando Llorente
Sergio Aguero
Arda Turan
Ashley Young
Obviously not all, but which do we have a chance of signing?

Nando gone in summer or this window, do you think?

{Editor Note: If we had the funding I reckon we could get most of them.}

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29 Jan 2011 21:01:33
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29 Jan 2011 20:55:58
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Wheres everyone getting these Ashley young rumours from ed? Seemed to come out the blue! Tbh id rather have Igor biscan! Young can't cross a ball

Cs.

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We all want Turan & Mata, but common, Ashley Young is a good player and much better anything we currently have. Be happy.

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29 Jan 2011 21:00:03
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29 Jan 2011 20:55:58
Liverpool Rumours
Wheres everyone getting these Ashley young rumours from ed? Seemed to come out the blue! Tbh id rather have Igor biscan! Young can't cross a ball

Cs.

{Editor Note: They are coming from everywhere mate!}

But what is everyones source?

{Editor Note: Don't have a clue, no-one tends to leave the source.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:59:04
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Ed, have you heard anything solid of Man City jumping in on Torres? If they offer 50 million + Johnson - me thinks that would be hard to turn down.

Then use that money for Turan and Honda, and pair Suarez up front with either Aguero or Llorente - that would be enough to make me get over losing our number 9.

I'm gutted talking about Torres leaving, but if used correctly, the money could help us get to where we want to be in a hurry.

{Editor Note: I doubt City will come in, they've just signed Dzeko.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:58:12
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SSN just said Suarez will tell all about move next! turn it on people.

YNWA
Quincey

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29 Jan 2011 20:57:19
AS I SAID WE WOULD SIGN LUIS SUAREZ TOLD YOU ALL 2 WEEKS AGO
CHARALIE ADAMS 50/ 50

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You was a bit late then mate because Macca told us three weeks ago?

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29 Jan 2011 20:57:18
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If Liverpool rejected Torres's transfer request surely then is there no request for him to withdraw?


MarkyMark

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29 Jan 2011 20:57:05
I would almost certainly guarantee he will be gone in this transfer window.

Sorry all i may be wrong.

Macca

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Hi Macca, love your work. What do you reckon is the real reason he wants out (if you believe he really wants out not just trying to force NESV's hand)

I met Nando in SA (during WC - Spanish team did a little PR stint - I chatted to Nando for about 15min and I'm telling you, he only spoke about LFC the whole time. And it was genuine affection for the club. I can't believe whats happening now. And I really don't think he is a money grabbing thug. So whats really up?

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29 Jan 2011 20:56:34
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The depressing thing is that he's considering Chelsea - a vulgar club staffed by dumb people like Terry and Cole. Their fans are humourless - and yes, I've stood in the Chelsea end - and the culture of the club is nowhere near as rich as Liverpool's.

Liverpool need to get a grip on the whole situation. Liverpool is a cultured and historic club and we need to remind the world of these qualities. We are not like Chelsea or Man City.

It appears that Torres is off - but why on earth is he threatening to go to a rival club. He runs the risk of becoming a villian amongst the fans who love him so much.

We should let the chap go. For the right price. And preferably abroad - that way we get dollops of cash, and he get's some of his reputation restored.

This is Anfield - please make this strike fear again please.

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29 Jan 2011 20:56:01
50 million, zhirkov, anelka, and scott sinclair

{Editor's Note: Scott Sinclair is a Swansea player.}


Well, we don't want to make it easy for them, do we?

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29 Jan 2011 20:54:11
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Torres to join Chelsea for £38million. Liverpool will act quickly and use these funds to sign the following

Charlie Adam
Ashley Young
Ricky Van Wolfswinkel


Believe me.

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29 Jan 2011 20:54:04
If i could ask torres 1 question it would be this.name me a top player like yourself who has left liverpool for better things and has actually done better.answer is no one.e.g
owen
mcmanaman
fowler
alonso
mascherano

so what does he expect.DORSET RED

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29 Jan 2011 20:52:39
29 Jan 2011 20:48:43
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Apparently suarez will give an interview to ssn at 11(not sure if its true)
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29 Jan 2011 20:52:34
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Hey eds wondering on what the stand on Honda is? The Asia Cup is over, Japan took the cup. Did we actually ever have anyone in Qatar like previously stated? If so we have any chance at getting him or has the agents claim of his preferencfe to La Liga pretty much stamp out any hope?

One Winged Phoenix.

YNWA

{Editor's Note: There is no new information right now.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:52:07
29 Jan 2011 20:36:33
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Arda turan not in gala squad tonite could this mean something eds? lets hope he is on the way to liverpool at long last YNWA. . please post this ed an comment

jonnyoz

{Editor's Note: He is injured.}

{Editor Note: Don't know mate. Trying to hear anything from the club is like finding water in the desert! }

He is injured

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29 Jan 2011 20:51:19
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Ed who do you think would be the perfect replacement for torres

{Editor's Note: Toivonen}

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29 Jan 2011 20:51:14
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Comolli and KK at Melwood all day to contact potential replacement. Once agreed we will start talking to Chelsea. This is a last resort unless he changes his mind.

50m + Anelka.

Carroll, plus bid for Diarra on way I have been told

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29 Jan 2011 20:48:43
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Apparently suarez will give an interview to ssn at 11(not sure if its true)

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29 Jan 2011 20:47:33
Hi Ed, maybe a bit from left field but

1) Could it be possible that Nando is actually doing all this to force spending and improve our squad (which helps his ambition and the club)?

2) Perhaps seeing that spending wasn't forthcoming in this window he asked his agent to look into the deal as it would be a way for LFC to buy the 3-4 players they need to get us competing (In a strange way trying to help the club by him moving to Chelsea?)

I know it might sound strange, but I have met Nando once in person (very briefly) and i really think he is not a money grabbing thug. I honestly think he does care and he wants money to be spent and the squad improved. Maybe I'm way off, but i will believe in him until proven otherwise.

Thoughts?

i don't think this is from the left field , i think this is pretty much it spot on!

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29 Jan 2011 20:42:13
To buy new plyers don't we need to sell because of the 25 man squad rule or we could buy english players

Know your facts - we only registered 18 at the start

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29 Jan 2011 20:41:41
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Ed- can signings come in just as normal tomorrow? Because there always seems to be a lack of activity in the transfer windows on a Sunday.

{Editor Note: I'd imagine so. Although players and the people involved may have religious commitments so understandable.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:41:18
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Hi ed
wouldnt be suprised if torres done a u-turn , rooney and tevez have done the same already this season.heard ashley young and lukaku coming in summer , would love them 2 and falcao nd g.cahill.

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29 Jan 2011 20:40:53
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I hear people saying Man City to offer us 60 million plus A johnson. They should give us 100 million for Torres, Gerrard and G Johnson.

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29 Jan 2011 20:39:34
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I do have a good feeling about Ashley Young to be honest. Scrap Charlie Adam he's a good player but the asking price is too much. Liverpool should try there best to sign him, he's homegrown, he can provide service for Torres and Suarez and he play give us width, which is what we have needed for a while now. Good times ahead if we sign him.

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29 Jan 2011 20:39:20
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If Liverpool were to sell Torres I reckon we should sell to manchester city we would prob get a better deal with also couple of players coming aswell would like to see a Johnson in a Liverpool shirt would give us great options on wings as we are lacking that also Richards would be gd young and a great player! Also with the money from that deal we could also bring in lb and also a back up striker and maybe a second winger Job done thank you plz

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29 Jan 2011 20:38:40
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Ed do you think there might be a problem with the Suarez deal as it is taking a long time to get his medical done, surely a medical for a fit player like Suarez is should not take all day, surely there should be an announcement by now(providing personal terms were agreed, but i take it they were as he was doing a medical). just another point regarding Honda, i take it he is still on the radar do you think it will be a problem that he will be still abroad with Japan till at least tomorrow night that it will snuff our chances of signing him.

{Editor Note: The deal was agreed little over 24 hours ago. Be patient.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:38:27
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AS I SAID WE WOULD SIGN LUIS SUAREZ TOLD YOU ALL 2 WEEKS AGO
CHARALIE ADAMS 50/ 50
TORRES TO BEHONEST NEVER SEEN THAT COMING AND I REALLY WOULDNT THINK HE WOULD OF HANDED IN A TRANSFER REQUEST BUT SOMETIME EVEN IM WRONG
GOING TO BE BIG NEWS LAST DAY OF THE WINDOW FOR LFC THOU WATCH THIS SPACE. . . .

LFC CRITCH

U HEARD IT HERE 1ST

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29 Jan 2011 20:36:55
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To buy new plyers don't we need to sell because of the 25 man squad rule or we could buy english players

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29 Jan 2011 20:36:33
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Arda turan not in gala squad tonite could this mean something eds? lets hope he is on the way to liverpool at long last YNWA. . please post this ed an comment

jonnyoz

{Editor Note: Don't know mate. Trying to hear anything from the club is like finding water in the desert!!}

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29 Jan 2011 20:35:33
Lets get down to brass tacks.

Torres. So called superstar, who apart from an awesome first season with us and a few games when he feels like it is either almost always injured, or walking about the pitch complaining and not giving the effort we need or expect from a "superstar"

Gerrard, Mr Liverpool, but who himself has held the club to ransom more than once, and whenever he is out either through suspension or injury, I personally think we play with far more balance and cohesion. He is a fantastic player, but he expects every attack to go through him so the other team members end up giving him a short pass instead of expressing themselves.

Look at our last 2 matches.

1. Wolves. Gerrard suspended and Meireles etc played an awesome game with speed flair ability and movement, we never looked under threat.

2. Fulham. Gerrard back, we win through a lucky goal, and despite the odd move of skill, we end up backs to the wall and defending for our lives.

If these 2 are the reason we are as high as we are, I also think that sometimes they are the albatross that holds us back.

Red4Ever

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29 Jan 2011 20:34:05
Hi Ed, maybe a bit from left field but

1) Could it be possible that Nando is actually doing all this to force spending and improve our squad (which helps his ambition and the club)?

2) Perhaps seeing that spending wasn't forthcoming in this window he asked his agent to look into the deal as it would be a way for LFC to buy the 3-4 players they need to get us competing (In a strange way trying to help the club by him moving to Chelsea?)

I know it might sound strange, but I have met Nando once in person (very briefly) and i really think he is not a money grabbing thug. I honestly think he does care and he wants money to be spent and the squad improved. Maybe I'm way off, but i will believe in him until proven otherwise.

Thoughts?

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29 Jan 2011 20:32:48
Macca, u seem to actually be in the know, help us lfc fans distinguish dreams from reality what is the real sit with torres!? and will we reli let him go to another pl team?

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I would almost certainly guarantee he will be gone in this transfer window.

Sorry all i may be wrong.

Macca

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29 Jan 2011 20:31:30
No paddy power he is 1:3 to stay and 1:5 to go

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29 Jan 2011 20:29:51
FOR THE LAST 2 DAYS EVERYBODY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT FEE WE MAY GET FOR TORRES YET NOT 1 PERSON HAS BROUGHT UP DARREN BENTS BENCH MARK FEE FOR THIS TRANSFER WINDOW. IF HE IS WORTH 24MILL THEN TORRES MUST GO FOR A MINIMUM FEE OF 65MILL CASH ONLY. LETS HOPE NESV BRING THIS TOO THE ATTENTION OF TORRES HIS AGENT AND CHELSEA. WE HAVE BEEN A SOFT TOUCH IN THE TRANSFER MARKET FOR YEARS IT'S ABOUT TIME WE STARTED PLAYIN HARD BALL

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29 Jan 2011 20:27:10
For those moaning about Torres apparent lack of pace/ effort have you watched any of the recent matches?

He's working harder in the last few weeks than the total of the last six months+ and I can't see a lack of pace? Merieles seems to be one of few people able to keep up with the rate that he plays the ball too. . I dare say if you want to moan about a lack of pace, look at the rest of the squad. Lack of effort - numerous candidates.

I desperately hope he stays, atleast until the summer - just to see what will happen with Suarez joining. If he wants to go still in the summer, ok - but to a foreign club and with a suitable Aguero replacement.

HodgsonOut

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29 Jan 2011 20:25:55
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Just a thought. .

Since the whole Torres thing came out announcements have been made late at night. I am not sure for the reasoning behind this. American Owners Perhaps? Anyone I'm not sure, however it may mean we get some news, but later on tonight

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29 Jan 2011 20:25:19
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There were two questions raised by Chelsea's decision to bid for Fernando Torres. The first was why had Chelsea waited until so close to the end of the January transfer window before making their move?
Fernando Torres - Roman Abramovich lures Fernando Torres with promise of European silver
Chief tormentor: Fernando Torres scored twice in Liverpool's 2-0 victory

The answer was simple: it wasn't until now that they had been given sufficient encouragement to table an offer.

The other question was this - why push for a deal now and not wait until the summer when Liverpool might be more willing to sell?

The answer to that was also simple: Roman Abramovich sees Torres as the striker who can win Chelsea the Champions League this season, and that is the competition which he wants above all other and which would rescue the club's campaign. And Torres wants that trophy also.

It was five days ago that Chelsea's representatives are believed to have met Torres's advisers, Bahia Internacional, and were told that the Liverpool striker was again keen to move to Stamford Bridge and would help to try and push for a deal.

Then, three days ago, Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay and chairman Bruce Buck, under orders from Abramovich, submitted their formal offer.


Torres followed that up by talking to the Liverpool hierarchy and urging them to at least open negotiations. Liverpool and, in particular manager Kenny Dalglish, have stood firm.

It is an awkward scenario, not least because both clubs have been there before - with Torres and, going further back, with Steven Gerrard, who came so close to quitting Liverpool and joining Jose Mourinho when he was in charge at Stamford Bridge.

The pursuit of Torres has been directly led by Abramovich who remains fascinated by a player who so often has been the scourge of Chelsea. His two goals at Anfield this season left the owner wanting more - but in a blue shirt.

Carlo Ancelotti, the manager, despite his protestations, is believed to be less sure about whether Torres is the right striker for Chelsea now, given his age and injury record. However, Ancelotti also knows he needs a strong second half to the campaign to remain in his post.

Nevertheless, in the autumn Ancelotti suggested that the time Chelsea wanted Torres might have passed and when they came to replace Didier Drogba and, more directly, Nicolas Anelka they may be looking at younger players.

Abramovich clearly does not agree and last October, when Wayne Rooney was pushing to leave Manchester United, he was hoping that this month he could even pair him with Torres in a new strike-force.

"This is Roman's dream, " one source said then. It is also a statement that, when he sees fit, and despite all the talk of financial fair play, breaking even, balancing the books and reducing Chelsea's overheads and wage bill, the Russian billionaire will spend if he wants to.

Torres has always been his main target. While Ancelotti has pushed for David Luiz to bolster his defence, hoping he could wait until the summer for a new striker before Chelsea's collapse that is, Abramovich has continued to covet Torres having flown to South Africa during the World Cup with the intention of wooing the 26 year-old.

That was before the World Cup semi-final against Germany in Durban, which ended with Torres pulling up injured. There was a statement from his agent, Juan Antonio Martin, denying he wanted to leave at that time but Chelsea, along with Manchester City and Barcelona, certainly felt there were grounds for encouragement.

Indeed, last season it was thought City had an informal agreement that should they finish in the top four, they would bid for Torres, who laid down his own marker by stating that Liverpool needed to acquire half a dozen high-calibre players.

He was eventually placated with Liverpool's then managing director, Christian Purslow, flying to Spain for talks. It was from that meeting that it is understood Torres was told he could leave if a club bid £50 million for him but that agreement was not formalised into a buy-out clause.

Abramovich is aware of all of this and, despite his desire to acquire Torres, he does not want to pay what he believes is too high a price for a player who he thinks wants to join Chelsea and who wants to challenge for trophies.

Torres does not believe Liverpool are close to doing that.
form theturdz doing his bit to lift the lid on tapping up

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29 Jan 2011 20:24:46
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Torres currently in Spain - don't know how he can have been in talks with Knny and Sg today! anyway. . he is pissed off at his agent for pushing this so far, he was aware of an offer on Thursday from Chelsea and seeing there was no apparent headway in new signings(yet again) advised his agent to listen to the terms of the deal, with a view to using it as reasons to force impending transfers (ie. they are offering x and if we aren't signing anyone then. .). His agent appears to have got a stiffy, thinking of the cash this deal could get him, and it was the agent who faxed through the transfer request, supposedly on Nando's behalf, even though Nando was never consulted about the request or ok'd it. He will be back tomorrow night to sort this out with the club and KD, he has fired his agent and will still be our number 9 on Tuesday morning. . . oh yeah, my source. . . .lets just say as a former rugby player, there are certain members of the LFC medical team I am friendly with from their time at my former club.

Scouse and Proud

Excellent post mate, i really hope you are for real. I PMS when i read "his agent got a stiffy" so hands up to you my friend.

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29 Jan 2011 20:24:24
Thought I would chuck my two pence worth in!
Went to bed last night thinking " COME ON RED MEN" after the suarez deal broke. . . wake up this morning to the news of torres wanting out. . My first thought was one of devestation. . however. . now that it has sank in I think that if we can get 50mil for him and use that money to buy 2, 25mil strikers then that would not be a bad thing for us to do. . if those strikers are not available then we don't sell. . simple as that. . tell chelsea that sturridge is s***e and anelka is past it so its cash or nothing. .
Also there is a brilliant conspiracy rumour doing the rounds that Torres was told to hand in a transfer request by king kenny so that the press would be busy with this story while we went and signed aguero. .! ! I know I am pissing in the wind. .but hey after the day I've had! !
jonnybarnes89-90

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29 Jan 2011 20:23:16
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Can I just say one thing to everyone:
if Torres does elect to stay and does a u-turn there has to be no hard feelings, no whinging and we must support him as fully as we ever did. Don't try and tell me you've never had conflicted feelings about something? Its what he does in the end that matters.

EyeSak


i understand your point mate, but why the hell should we. the timing of this stinks, why not go in the summer, if what we are told is true then he was desperate to leave, no one would have blamed him, would have been given a pat on the back and left a hero. . . . . . . . but like this? 3 days before the window closes, after we break our transfer record on suarez, after the board have shown a signal of intent to the world, that this is the standard of player we are in the market for now, he hands in a transfer request! im sick of people banging on about how the board should tell him there ambitions etc, hes been crap all season, sulking, never looking interested, not working hard enough! only in the last month has he resembled the torres of old! now the board add suarez, a player of the calibre that torres has been wanting since he joined. . . . the bloke can go jump in my opinion, who would of thought he would end up another owen? well fernando the grass is never greener mate.


matt 27

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29 Jan 2011 20:21:41
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I don't have a tw*tter account.
can anybody tell me who is sayin torres has sacked his agent etc? is it fans? or journos?
regards
mikey

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29 Jan 2011 20:21:24
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I think there is a very good chance Young will sign.

Macca

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29 Jan 2011 20:19:46
If torres does leave the club forget about signing any mercinary players that have no loyalty to our club

but big names offer so much in the bright lights so ppl take the blinkers off

get an english striker and only name i want is andy carrol
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you messing? carrol will end up gettin more nights in a jail cell than he will get goals in his footballing career. everything that is wrong with football and mankind this low life.
mikey

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29 Jan 2011 20:17:11
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Please would everyone stop with the nando stuff , the only two teams nando would leave us for are barca or back to athletico , has anyone seen or heard an exact quote from him about leaving? NO is the answer . lot of mischief going on , not sure why . mike1366

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29 Jan 2011 20:16:20
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Hi ed, its gone all to quiet for me especially as suarez should be revealed at least on lfc tv. It has me thinking that they are in talks with chelsea and dnt want to announce suarez yet. I think he's a gonner pal, but if he does stay i will be made up. Remember spurs sold Carrick and Berbatov and they were better for it. 50mill and we can get a couple of pacy players, i like that sanchez lad, also dm type of player. At least we will have a better all round team. Great site by the way

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29 Jan 2011 20:12:30
Only clubs in spain can trigger players clauses in contracts, they do not usually count for foreighn clubs. did no one listen to guillem balague. so therefore even if we were to offer agueros buy out clause, atletico could still reject, howerver if real madrid were to offer it theyd have to accpet. . .guillem balague knows alot more about spanish football than any of us

real madrid offered the same as agueros get out clause and it was still rejected by the club.
not sure how a get out clause works anymore, would the ed like to help out?
mikey

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29 Jan 2011 20:12:07
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Liverpool Rumours
Lots of rumours on twitter etc, that torres has withdrawn transfer request, anybody else heard this
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Thats not on twitter. I follow alot of connected people at LFc and Scribes in the know and this has not been reported . . . . . . . . . yet.

Chi-Paul

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29 Jan 2011 20:12:03
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IF King Kenny gets the chance to talk to Torres i am convinced he will be able to persuade him to stay until at least the summer. This is the same as when Gerrard nearly left twice and we all know the outcome. Give him an extra £50k a week if that's what it takes because their is only ONE FERNANDO TORRES - ED what is your gut feeling what will happen. Do you think Torres will do a u turn like Stevie did?

{Editor Note: I think Torres will leave - but not until the Summer.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:11:17
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Ed honestly do you think Torres has sacked agent!

{Editor Note: No mate - it all started on Twitter.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:10:21
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Does anyone know the original source for the "torres sacks agent" rumour? or is this a case of Chinese whispers?

also ed, do you think that suarez can fill fernandos boots if he leaves? i fear the same situation as aquilani taking over from alonso. too much expectation and pressure!

great site by the way!

{Editor Note: I don't think Suarez could fill his boots as I think he's a different type of striker. But he could certainly prove to be great foil for a Torres replacement.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:09:26
I watched Honda again today in the Asia cup final, I don't know if the rumours are true that we are interested, but my opinion is he is not good enough for us.

{Editor Note: Since when did one match determine a player's ability?}

LoL Ed, I knew I would catch you out there, read the fourth word AGAIN.

{Editor Note: My bad, but I don't think you tried to trick me out there.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:08:34
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I know its based on betting patterns but paddy power has torres 1/ 5 to stay and sky has him 1/ 5 to go. . strange.

But there's only one I'd believe and lets just say its not sky!

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29 Jan 2011 20:08:17
ED, MACCA AND LFC FANS, MUST READ'

Torres may be living if not now then summer for hopefully 50m( a player who will always have injuries). why he wants to go to Chelsea, i am baffled, to a club where all is not rite, players such as drogba, terry and lampard where there best years is behind them and not a guarenteed champions league spot, will he will have with whatever happens if he does leave.
On a higher note which we all need, if we do get 50m, we can try to get either aquero or llorente in the summer for far less who mite WANT TO PLAY FOR THE CLUB and buy players with width as well.
Torres might leave but the CLUB will always be there and there will always be better players. We COULDN'T WIN TROPHIES WHEN TORRES WAS THERE SO ALL IS NOT LOST.Lets Get behind the team!

{Editor Note: I agree mate, Llorente or Aguero should be the two targets if he leaves.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:07:37
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There is no name on the back of a Liverpool shirt that's more important than the crest on the front of it. Y.N.W.A.

Bucko (justice 96)

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29 Jan 2011 20:07:12
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Hi ed has suarez had his medical yet and when will there be an announcement as it don't look good its been a long time and nothing said

{Editor Note: Why are people so impatient? A fee had been agreed yesterday evening and he only arrived today. Had a fee been agreed say a week or two weeks ago then there is cause for panic but not less than 30 hours. He left Melwood all smiles with an LFC tracksuit on so things look good.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:05:35
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Does anyone know when Suarez deal will be officially completed and announced?

Torres as handed in a transfer request and that is that, so what if he changes his mind, hes still said he wants to leave our club, and it must have been more than just a thought to acctually hand in a request!

Ed do you think that the fact Xavi Valero left when rafa went had a negative effect on Torres? He was often quoted saying he enjoyed working with Valero as he used to analyse the upcoming oppositions keeper for one on one situations, which Torres has said helped him score so many goals, Since he left Torres hasnt been the same this season, coincidence . . probably however maybe he isn't happy with the lack of help from the new backroom staff (as Reina was also quoted as not enjoying working with the goal keeping coach Hodgson brought with him)

{Editor Note: I don't know mate, but if a player is tied to a member of the club's coaching staff then he shouldn't be here anyway.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:05:09
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Has anyone got onto the fact you can get 3/ 1 with paddy power and 4/ 1 with betfred on torres 2 leave l/ pool by monday night that tells me that hes gunna stay if the bookies were in the know which they are his odds wud be shorter? ?

{Editor Note: The bookies aren't in the know.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:04:58
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Hi Ed,

I've just been looking at the Chelsea rumour page. It's not as busy as ours. . only took a few minutes to read the whole day's posts!

What struck me was that the people posting on there, and the editors themselves, seem to speak as though there is wide acceptance of the 'tapping up' practise.

For example there is mention of personal terms already being agreed, in examples where the target player's club hasn't accepted any bid or approach, and this is discussed in a jokey, nudge nudge, wink wink manner.

At risk of sounding naive, has this practise become so commonplace that we just accept it nowadays?

I'd be disappointed if Liverpool act that way in their approach to new signings.

It's been a depressing day and I've not been able to think about anything else. . great shame when we were supposed to be celebrating Suarez' arrival. I'm trusting in Kenny though (and NESV for that matter). I know we'll see good times very soon.

Brian
YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 20:03:33
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29 Jan 2011 19:56:25
Liverpool Rumours
Torres has sacked his agent and will withdraw his Transfer request tomorrow. Luis Suarez offically announced tonight and one more signing before monday.


Is any of this True Ed?

{Editor Note: It was all from Twitter, so I doubt it is true.}

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29 Jan 2011 20:01:47
Liverpool Rumours
If torres does leave the club forget about signing any mercinary players that have no loyalty to our club

but big names offer so much in the bright lights so ppl take the blinkers off

get an english striker and only name i want is andy carrol

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29 Jan 2011 20:01:26
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Liverpool Rumours
Torres currently in Spain - don't know how he can have been in talks with Knny and Sg today!

Never heard of mobile phones or mobile internet?

Red4Ever

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29 Jan 2011 20:00:46
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I watched Honda again today in the Asia cup final, I don't know if the rumours are true that we are interested, but my opinion is he is not good enough for us.

{Editor Note: Since when did one match determine a player's ability?}

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29 Jan 2011 20:00:45
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Surely we can demand whatever we want for him whilst he is under contract, all this talk of an increased bid of 40mill is nonsense, we clearly do not want to sell so they will have to break the bank to prise him away as we have all the leverage

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29 Jan 2011 19:57:36
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I think asking for 45 million plu zhirkov is ideal, we know abramovich wants the russian in his team so hes hurting us lets hurt him take his money and get a left sided player capable of playing left back or left wing with equal aptitude into the bargain, might even take anelka aswell , he is still good for a couple of seasons

40 mill zhirkov and anelka, till gives us a proven premier league striker and sortss ourleft back problem whilst giving us ching ching to rebuild properly in ummer

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29 Jan 2011 19:57:18
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Macca, u seem to actually be in the know, help us lfc fans distinguish dreams from reality what is the real sit with torres!? and will we reli let him go to another pl team?

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29 Jan 2011 19:56:56
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Phil testing mobile rumours form

{Editor's Note: Worked fine Phil.}

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This is utter sh*te, 100% speculation!

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29 Jan 2011 19:54:55
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Whats all this about Torres withdrawing his transfer request? Somehow i think its utter rubbish. But please could someone confirm it. I am also beginning to worry that if Suarez signs (hopefully) and torres leaves, then that still leaves us with the need for another striker. We don't have enough time to wrap up Suarez deal, sell Torres and get another Striker. Also if Torres leaves, i cannot see Aguero joining, replacing Torres. He only recently signed a contract extension. Macca what is gonna happen?

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29 Jan 2011 19:54:50
I don't buy all this torres story! yea he requests a move but chelsea offering players like anelka and cash id say that's the london media we play chelsea soon id love torres to score against them

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29 Jan 2011 19:51:29
Only clubs in spain can trigger players clauses in contracts, they do not usually count for foreighn clubs. did no one listen to guillem balague. so therefore even if we were to offer agueros buy out clause, atletico could still reject, howerver if real madrid were to offer it theyd have to accpet. . .guillem balague knows alot more about spanish football than any of us

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29 Jan 2011 19:50:45
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Ashley young will be a lfc player by monday fact / / / / /
redted. . . . . . remember i told u coming out of a villa source not lfc

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29 Jan 2011 19:49:48
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Anthony annan joined schalke for two million, he would have been ideal behind gerrard and meireles in midfield and blackpool want 10 million for charlie i get caught in possesion adam . . no h***ing way

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29 Jan 2011 19:49:24
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Just a quick bit of advice - some may knock it but twitter isn't an entirely unreliable source of information, it is just the same as any other medium in that the credibility of the information given relies solely on who has imparted it. If someone has just signed up, looks desperate for followers, has no obvious way of knowing said info (i.e a kid in Beirut who's ITK) or is a footballer "waiting to be verified" dismiss it.

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29 Jan 2011 19:49:02
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Hi ed, devasted about the torres situation, how ever with my glass being half full not empty, if he is to go then it needs to be done sooner rather than later, its no good folding to chelsea and fernandos demands 1 hour before the deadline. 45-50m plus anelka would be the best we could get imo. then an offer of 25m for hulk and 15m offer for ever banega, and maybe 10m 4 adam to add to the creativity in midfield, play 4 3 3 till the end of the season, hulk suarez and anelka up top would ease the blow of torres leaving.
i would of course love torres to stay, but maybe for the first time he has shown his cards, im not sure if theres is any going back now, for himself or the fans.
we need to rebuild that is clear, this could be the start of something positive from a negative.

matt 27

also, if he does go, then we should loan gerrard to tottenham for the remainder of the season to help them get fourth and leave chelsea without CL football next year! . . . . . . . . . . . . that part was a joke.

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29 Jan 2011 19:47:03
If Torres can wear a Chelsea shirt then he could possibly wear a Real Madrid shirt at some point in his career. That whole love of supporters talk is cheap. Cash will make a lot of people compromise on their so-called values and allegiance. If he cared about the club, he wouldn't want to leave at this moment. Liverpool were actually on the road to recovery and this news has thrown everything upside down again. I have already moved on, Torres is already a former LFC player in my mind.

C.C.

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29 Jan 2011 19:46:14
29 Jan 2011 19:33:05
Liverpool Rumours
Why is there no confirmation of suarez deal?

LLA

We only agreed the fee yesterday jesus don't be so impatient CHRIST!
he has agreed personal terms and done his medical? they aren't gonna do it all in one go it takes time press conference etc.
Maybe tonight or tomorow we shall see he just moved to merseyside christ lads

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29 Jan 2011 19:45:59
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, is it not true that Torres has a £50m get out clause- so if chelsea are to make an offer then it will be

{Editor's Note: There is no clause.}

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29 Jan 2011 19:45:11
Liverpool Rumours
From Tony Evans twitter :-

'All quiet on Torres front. Club adamant no sale on.'

The Booter

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29 Jan 2011 19:44:56
Can I just say one thing to everyone:
if Torres does elect to stay and does a u-turn there has to be no hard feelings, no whinging and we must support him as fully as we ever did. Don't try and tell me you've never had conflicted feelings about something? Its what he does in the end that matters.

EyeSak

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29 Jan 2011 19:44:40
Liverpool Rumours
Ed is konchesky going to fulham?

Calired

{Editor Note: Talks ar on-going for a loan deal.}

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The deal fell through this week. Fulham will return at the end of the season for him.

)Tikmeister(

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29 Jan 2011 19:43:51
Liverpool Rumours
Where's the news that was meant to be on the L'pool website at 6, then 7.
Usual rubbish then?

Ed's has the Suarez deal been finalised?

What is occurring with Torres?

{Editor's Note: It will be finalised when the official web site formally issues a statement.}

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29 Jan 2011 19:42:45
Look back to thursday torres asked LFC to look at chelski bid nothing else did de agent see £££ signs and go on a solo run if so FT could be in de clear?? maybe wishful thinking

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29 Jan 2011 19:42:08
If torres is going to chelsea for sure i would sell for 45mill and take yuri zhirkov nothin else.

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29 Jan 2011 19:42:00
Look, i have no problem if torres wants to feel out his options, since his arrival we have added nothing and lost alonso, and masch. so if it was a simple as I want to here chelsea's offer to push ownership to act now and push for top 4 this season that's fine. If it is true that the agent took it too far, great.
but my honest opinion is Torres thinks we a 2-3 yrs away and by then he will be 29 and probably not needed here anyway. 50 mill plus anelka can buy alot in the euro market right now. mighty tempting.

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29 Jan 2011 19:41:58
Liverpool Rumours
I think we should forget about talking torres into staying and just go out and buy mata diarra and a decent left back and then nando would defintaley stay

reina
johnson kelly agger? ? ?
gerrard diarra meireles
suarez torres mata

we all know torres wants to leave due to lack of spending, so just go and spend, we need top class players , the only way to convince nando to stay is to go out and bring them in

mata 16 million, diarra 12 millio and a left back 10 million

nev need to how nando they are erious about making a team capable of getting back into the champions league but not just that they need to ensure him that withint two years we ll be there challenging to win it. otherwise he is gone, most likely in the summer and we fans will have to accept that we will not be champions league contenders any time soon, luckily for fernando he can leave, we as supporters can not

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29 Jan 2011 19:39:12
Liverpool Rumours
I say let torres go hes been bitching and moaning a long time now nobodys bigger than the clubs and every ones
replaceable (kk for keegan) let him chase the mighty dollar some where
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29 Jan 2011 19:38:48
Liverpool Rumours
Ed. . if torres does go to chelsea do you think there will be a claus in the contract where he can't play against us next sunday or do you think he will play against us.

{Editor's Note: There would be no clause but at best he would be a sub.}

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29 Jan 2011 19:38:11
Liverpool Rumours
Ed it Suarez done an dusted now? Thanks, Tom

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29 Jan 2011 19:38:00
Liverpool Rumours
Club to issue statement at 9 30 tonight on nandos future. Michael lakes

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29 Jan 2011 19:36:01
Liverpool Rumours
'did purslow not do a good job getting rid of h&g or am i forgetting something'
Read what i said before you make stupid comments! I said he was vital in getting rid of H&G BUT. . That was not his primary job was it. . NO

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29 Jan 2011 19:35:38
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Actually they have APPARENTLY offered 40 + Anellka to get the value up to 50m
lpool
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Anelka worth 10m?!?!? No way! Wouldnt want him anyway. We didn't want him when he was 25 and in his prime for similar money, so def not now. To sell Torres to Chelski is bad enough. To accept a cast off from them would be too much

I'd rather get Yuri Zhirkov from them to play on the left and spend the rest on Aguero.

RG

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29 Jan 2011 19:35:26
Liverpool Rumours
Torres is withdrawing transfer request. There will be a statement with words to the effect " after speaking with owners I am happy club is moving forward bla bla bla" but we will never know the real reason for his request. My guess is that he had some sort of bust up in training with someone over his lack of effort in matches maybe but we will never know. No way on earth would we sell to chelsea in this window.

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29 Jan 2011 19:35:13
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I for one would let torres go. (loss of pace/ sulking)
I have been fortunate enough to be surrounded by the greatest fans in football and if torres wants to trade that in then let him. The timing is terrible and quite clearly all this love for the club he has is clearly just talk.
we have just signed a player who had twice the world cup torres had. Can you all remember when we were going to sign villa or torres and we all wanted villa (torres wasnt even that prolific). Our club made him. We made him. let him go and lets move on. 50 million and give KK the money to reinvest. Trust the owners. Trust the Club. Trust KK they will get it right

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29 Jan 2011 19:34:31
Hi Ed, in response to your view on Muntari, surely he has to be better than Poulsen? I would have traded Poulsen for him, his game is more suited to Serie A.
Honda got MVP in the Asian Cup this morning, look forward to him playing for us.

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29 Jan 2011 19:34:25
Liverpool Rumours
Man City to bid 50 milon and adam johnston for torres ?

God i hope so and buy a decent back up striker matbe then it wouldn't feel that bad

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29 Jan 2011 19:33:52
10 MILLION! for Oxlade-Chamberlain? you must be joking! watching the game now. don't know what some of you lot are watching.


correctamundo. . its called Hype . his dad knows what Hype is. hes ex pro . like alot of others. .
By the way Macca other than on here , do you know Sharkey? xx7

= = = = = = = =

the names KNOWITALL

YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 19:33:40
Liverpool Rumours
I always believed that torres will stay (at least to the summer) as he has stated this public time after time! To me he's not one to be lured by Chelsea as he and everyone else can see they are in decline. . we are on the up! But he seems a rational man who doesn't jump to silly thoughts! He may have been listenin to bad info from ppl around him but I can't see how his request stacks up to the man we know and love!
Also; I'm from northern Ireland and have been slated about supporting Liverpool from ppl who live in Liverpool cus I'm not from liverpool which I think is very small minded by a few ppl!
I look forward to torres and LS up front for the mighty pool!

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29 Jan 2011 19:33:08
50 million, zhirkov, anelka, and scott sinclair

{Editor's Note: Scott Sinclair is a Swansea player.}

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29 Jan 2011 19:33:05
Liverpool Rumours
Why is there no confirmation of suarez deal?

LLA

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29 Jan 2011 19:31:05
Liverpool Rumours
I know its conflicting with my earlier post, however Suarez announcement has been pushed back, as they're sorting the details of the new contract out with Torres and wish to announce both at the same time.

I expect it will be later on tonight, however my source is telling me it could be pushed into tomorrow.

C.H

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29 Jan 2011 19:30:22
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed first time posting on here, been on the net all afternoon and don't know who to believe anymore. Lots of people hoping for the best, facts are though if he wasn't going he would have come out and said so! In fairness anytime Reina has been linked he has always come out and declared his commitment to his contract at Liverpool. Feel gutted but pragmatic at the same time, he annoyed me against fulham and has frustrated me this season, doesn't track back or close down and his best games have always been against the best teams when he has something to prove. Don't get me wrong I don't want him to go but the club and the shirt are more important. I would take Anelka as a stop gap he's a great athlete even at 32. I trust kk so let's see what happens.
Please post Ed

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29 Jan 2011 19:30:21
Liverpool Rumours
Torres does want to leave and he wanted to leave in the summer but was persuaded otherwise, because hodgson guarenteed him we would be in the champions league next year.
unless he can be persuaded to stay again he will go, simple as that.
also to the lad who wrote that his agent ''faxed'' the transfer request, thats aload of borrocks because a player has to sign a transfer request himself, so i am led to believe.

db9

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29 Jan 2011 19:30:07
Liverpool Rumours
Just had a phone call from a friend, his sister in law works at Anfield (Yes I know it sounds dodgy, but she's in one of the offices') She has been telling people not to worry, it is true that Torres has sacked his agent. (Hope so)

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29 Jan 2011 19:29:23
Liverpool Rumours
Why no news of the suarez medical? ?

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29 Jan 2011 19:29:07
Liverpool Rumours
Can everyone stop worrying Nicolas Anelka is not coming to Liverpool. He would never of played today against Everton if Chelsea were going to offer him tonight. They would have not risked him getting injured. Danny Sturridge on the other hand. . .

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29 Jan 2011 19:28:44
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 19:10:44
Liverpool Rumours
Torres currently in Spain - don't know how he can have been in talks with Knny and Sg today! anyway. . he is kissed off at his agent for pushing this so far, he was aware of an offer on Thursday from Chelsea and seeing there was no apparent headway in new signings(yet again) advised his agent to listen to the terms of the deal, with a view to using it as reasons to force impending transfers (ie. they are offering x and if we aren't signing anyone then. .). His agent appears to have got a stiffy, thinking of the cash this deal could get him, and it was the agent who faxed through the transfer request, supposedly on Nando's behalf, even though Nando was never consulted about the request or ok'd it. He will be back tomorrow night to sort this out with the club and KD, he has fired his agent and will still be our number 9 on Tuesday morning. . . oh yeah, my source. . . .lets just say as a former rugby player, there are certain members of the LFC medical team I am friendly with from their time at my former club.

Scouse and ProudAs comforting as this would be, if it were true then he'd have contacted the club straight away and Liverpool would have confirmed as much with a statement. The only hope of a U-turn is if the request was sent prior to Suarez signing because Torres though we were doing nothing to improve the team. It's a money making scheme or he wants out! As I've posted before a contract will be offered and he will either sign it or leave.

Redfish

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29 Jan 2011 19:25:12
Liverpool Rumours
Suarez will not be able to compete with liverpool in europa league as he has already been in european competition this season with ajax.

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29 Jan 2011 19:24:31
Liverpool Rumours
Very reliable source that torres is to withdraw transfer request, all these rumours are due to his agent, that's why he is sacking him. he will stay at least until the summer then he will leave. also charlie adam tomorrow for 8.5 million. nzogbia on monday 8 million. suarez medical passed.

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29 Jan 2011 19:23:22
29 Jan 2011 18:44:59
{Editor Note: Torres would never play for Real Madrid as he played for Atletico Madrid.}

Surely that's like saying "Torres will never play for another premiership club as he plays for Liverpool"

So all this Torres leaving speculation is just bulls**t is it?

{Editor Note: Seriously, are you actually stupid? Torres played for Atletico Madrid and he does love the club. Their biggest rivals are Real Madrid and he would never play for them. I even think he has said so in the past. Because I said that doesn't mean that I think the speculation isn't true. How did you come up with that conclusion?}

Erm hang on a minute, how does that make me stupid?

The point i'm making is that you stated Torres wouldn't go to R Madrid because of his Atletico Madrid connection (yes something he has actually said).

Let's not forget he's also said he wouldn't play for another premiership club because of his Liverpool connection.

So quite clearly if it's not possible for him to move to R Madrid (which you initially stated - not me), then it's also not possible for him to join Chelsea as you are very sure that Torres is a man of his word.

So to sum up, from the context of your reply, all this "Torres leaving fiasco" MUST be bulls**t.

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29 Jan 2011 19:21:28
Liverpool Rumours
Have faith in KK. Cast your minds back, summer 86, we've done the double. Happy days. Ian Rush announces the next season will be his last, he's off to Juventus. Sad days. Summer 87, Rush has gone only to be replaced by John Aldridge. Maybe not as good a player, but with fellow new arrivals John Barnes and Peter Bearsdley, KK assembles one of the most exciting attacking forces in the history of English league football. IF Torres goes, KK will replace him. Maybe not like for like, but he will fashion a new Liverpool, not the late 80's model, nor the late 00's model. But a new team of young, hungry, talented footballers, committed to the cause of being successful with Liverpool Football Club.

RedDom.

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29 Jan 2011 19:19:24
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Liverpool Rumours
Can anyone explain why Evans and co are once again insisting this is all Purslow's fault?
Purslow isn't the man you think he is he made bad decisions and told people infomation he could not back up! Yes he was a vital part in the sale of the club but you could hardly say he was great at his job!
LFC still clearing up alot of the mess left by him and H&G However i don't hate the man just think he did what he thought was right during a hard time however it didn't work out too well for him :/
YNWA

- - - - -

did purslow not do a good job getting rid of h&g or am i forgetting something

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29 Jan 2011 19:19:06
A few points to some recent posts:

Ayala was injured and Hull wouldn't return him early; Roy threw a wobbler (rightly so) but I don't think he's back until 1st week in Feb (not 100% on that bit); Hull are alledgedly back in for him on loan but I'm not sure the club will deal with tham again.

I hope he does get more 1st team football as I think he's going to be a brilliant defender (saw him early last season and thought his distribution of the ball was awful but when he played the back end of last season it had improved drastically (all first team games and improvement in about 6-7 months).

Pacheco's been on the bench the last couple of games; not sure if he will go on loan I suppose it depends if Torres stays or not; if he does it wouldn't surprise me if he did.

I think Anelka's a great player but I don't think his value is anyway near £10m due to his age; I'd prefer cash if we was dealing with Chelsea or more cash and asset strip their youngsters as they have a couple who may get more games with us and I think they are stars in the making).

If we are going to sell Torres I hope it's done soon so we can try to get reinforcements in; if there from oversea's then they might not settle well but rather now than in 6 months time.

Ed don't you think Gerrards "power" is the fact that he's kept us so high up the league in recent seasons with his play? I mean in all walks of life if your doing the business you get away with more and are wanted more than others! Not saying it's right but it's life. And how many times have players said they've joined to play with him (football I mean ;o) )?

Hoola

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29 Jan 2011 19:18:18
I think Liverpool should say - "No, you're here until the summer! We'll sell you to a forign team for 25-30 million, rather that a competitor for a champions league place next season!"

A fit on form Torres will win leagues for teams like Chelsea for years to come and that makes it more difficult for us to reach the top four as a starting target. Sell, but not to a competitor, simples!

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29 Jan 2011 19:18:08
{Editor Note: The damage is done. I've lost all respect for Fernando Torres regardless of whether he stays or not and should he stay I certainly won't be buying this line about him loving our club and fans.}


So from this statement ed, we can all asume that you feel the same about gerrard,

please post in rumours so i can see your reply, thanks

liverpaul

{Editor Note: You can equally see my reply on the banter page. And I've felt the same about Gerrard for years now. Off the field he is an awful person. He has too much influence off the field and has more than once held the club to ransom to get his own way. He doesn't love Liverpool as much as people say and he thinks he's bigger than our club.}

sorry to cut and paste, thanks for the reply, i agree with you about gerrard, As for torres its never to late, if he did do a u turn, he as bridges to build, im sure his goals could do that, its obvious he loves liverpool, he has been lied to so many times, and became dislouded with everyone upstairs and has you say hes had to deal with the gerrard factor, id rather see him go than torres,

liverpaul

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29 Jan 2011 19:18:04
Liverpool Rumours
I heard part of the deal is that chelsea step aside and pave the way for us to sign lukaku in the summer.

{Editor's Note: Nope - pure fantasy.}

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29 Jan 2011 19:17:17
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, what is your view on these 'rumours' that Torres has sacked his agent, and now wants to stay? I personally think this is not true, and we fans are just hoping this is the case. Also, I've heard recently that Monaco have made an enquiry for Christian Poulsen.

{Editor's Note: They are rumours on Twitter so I ignore them. I was aware that Monaco showed a slight interest earlier in the week - but it is quiet now.}

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29 Jan 2011 19:15:23
Liverpool Rumours
Why did Torres say he would never play for another English club, and that he loved Liverpool and there fans . Then he goes and s**ts on all of us. He never thought he would do that. Good luck Nando playing for a team with s**t fans and no history. YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 19:14:44
10 MILLION! for Oxlade-Chamberlain? you must be joking! watching the game now. don't know what some of you lot are watching.


correctamundo. . its called Hype . his dad knows what Hype is. hes ex pro . like alot of others. .
By the way Macca other than on here , do you know Sharkey? xx7

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29 Jan 2011 19:12:38
Liverpool Rumours
Can anyone explain why Evans and co are once again insisting this is all Purslow's fault?
Purslow isn't the man you think he is he made bad decisions and told people infomation he could not back up! Yes he was a vital part in the sale of the club but you could hardly say he was great at his job!
LFC still clearing up alot of the mess left by him and H&G However i don't hate the man just think he did what he thought was right during a hard time however it didn't work out too well for him :/
YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 19:11:38
Liverpool Rumours
I can remember a while back that Insua could be coming back early from his Loan because the Galatasaray (Spelling) manager doesn't want Loaned players on his team, so stephen warnock may not be neccessary. If he does come back early then we could use him as cover for kelly and glenn johnson, not a bad idea?

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29 Jan 2011 19:10:17
Liverpool Rumours
To the ed,

Now that Japan has won the Asian cup, do u hope we can conclude the deal with Honda if we were interested or was it just a rumor

{Editor Note: I hope we can get him.}

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29 Jan 2011 19:10:07
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed,

macca mentioned that he heard we were close to signing 4 players.

1.do you agree with him/ heard anything similar?

2.If you could have a guess at which four, who would you guess? I would guess adams, Nzogbia , warnock and Suarez.

please post on rumor page as i think many people who want to know what you think/ heard on this.

thanks a lot
Singapore red

{Editor Note: I've heard nothing mate, sorry. But Macca is usually spot on.}

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29 Jan 2011 19:09:43
Liverpool Rumours
Realistically we are only going to sell FT (if we do) to either Barcelona, Man City or a club in Italy.
even then we need to get a solid amount of money PLUS players in return. Suarez is good but he can't handle the goal burden on his own.

possible solutions:
Bojan/ Pedro
Adam Johnson
Davide Santon (i know he's a wingback but solid future player)
Thomas Muller (if Bayern were an option)

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29 Jan 2011 19:09:15
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, reported earlier than Muntari has agreed to go to Sunderland on loan for the rest of the year. Thoughts on why we would not have entertained him on a similar arrangement? Not sure what was agreed in wages?
All this talk about Honda, Young etc, surely we need to offload some of our midfielders first?

{Editor Note: Muntari isn't that good in my opinion.}

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29 Jan 2011 19:09:00
Liverpool Rumours
El Nino drop a bombshell on anfield. Come back mate. . YNWA. !
Your Blood is RED.

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29 Jan 2011 19:04:28
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed, great sight been glued to it all week, if Torres does go will we have enough time to spend the cash and who do you honestly think KK would bring in at such short notice.

{editor: I would hope Llorente and Turan.}

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29 Jan 2011 19:02:02
Liverpool Rumours
I don't want Torres to leave, but if he does let's get mega-bucks for him.50 million.
If he goes, use the money to get Arda Turan, Aguero, Honda, Benaga + a defender.
That would be good business.
Torres is ironic but likely to get injured
The villain of the piece is Torres's agent.
Sell him abroad, but not the Premier league.
That would be stupid !

Comandante

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29 Jan 2011 19:00:40
Liverpool Rumours
Has SUAREZ completed his mediucal and is he in Liverpool ?

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29 Jan 2011 19:00:00
Liverpool Rumours
Sell Torres, 50mil minimum preferably cash only, buy Aguero and Turan either now or in summer, both will give it 100 percent as they support Liverpool. Personally i think we will cope from now until the summer without replacing Torres, play kuyt as a striker and Suarez as right forward and with Meireles and Gerrard getting goals from midfield we will have enough fire power.

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29 Jan 2011 18:59:51
Liverpool Rumours
If Liverpool decide to sell Torres to Chelsea, I say test Chelsea's desire of Torres by putting Joshua McEachran in the deal.

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29 Jan 2011 18:57:41
Liverpool Rumours
{Editor Note: Your dummy back in yet?}
Is that to the stupid fan or torres can't figure it out ha :)
RedRodge

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29 Jan 2011 18:57:30
10 MILLION! for Oxlade-Chamberlain?? you must be joking! watching the game now. don't know what some of you lot are watching.


KNOWITALL

YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 18:56:02
Liverpool Rumours
Can anyone explain why Evans and co are once again insisting this is all Purslow's fault?

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29 Jan 2011 18:53:19
Liverpool Rumours
Please post and answer ed. Cheers

Do you or anyone know what the next chelski offer will be for torres? any idea? SSN are saying it's expected to be just 40 million.

Thanks

CJN

{Editor Note: If it is that I imagine it will be turned down also.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:52:27
Liverpool Rumours
Goal.com running exclusive story Liverpool negotiating at 50m plus Anelka? I would rather the 60m in cash.
Ed, thoughts on Anelka? Surely would only take him if we couldn't sign another striker in the window?

{Editor Note: I would only see him as a quick fix until the Summer.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:50:46
Liverpool Rumours
{Editor Note: The damage is done. I've lost all respect for Fernando Torres regardless of whether he stays or not and should he stay I certainly won't be buying this line about him loving our club and fans.}


So from this statement ed, we can all asume that you feel the same about gerrard,

please post in rumours so i can see your reply, thanks

liverpaul

{Editor Note: You can equally see my reply on the banter page. And I've felt the same about Gerrard for years now. Off the field he is an awful person. He has too much influence off the field and has more than once held the club to ransom to get his own way. He doesn't love Liverpool as much as people say and he thinks he's bigger than our club.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:49:35
Liverpool Rumours
I think torres is gonna stay, but if he wants to go i think we should let him, also dnt like the way some fans r coming out and slagging him off, him and stevie g have been carrying the tem for the past 2 years

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29 Jan 2011 18:47:36
Liverpool Rumours
Any news on Charlie Adam Ed?

Cheers Mate
Tyler

{Editor Note: Sorry mate, none.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:46:17
Liverpool Rumours
Why don't we look at cavani if Torres goes?

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29 Jan 2011 18:45:35
Liverpool Rumours
Torres is leaving. We have suarez. Its not really wise to bring in another high profile marksman from a different league. What we need is a player who has proved his merit in english football. Anelka would be perfect. And let that big signing happen in summer.

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29 Jan 2011 18:45:14
Very sad if nando goes just when you think the tide is turning another storm hits our great club, I think our club needs to see a priest and get him to rid us of the gremlins
Great site ed

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29 Jan 2011 18:44:59
{Editor Note: Torres would never play for Real Madrid as he played for Atletico Madrid.}

Surely that's like saying "Torres will never play for another premiership club as he plays for Liverpool"

So all this Torres leaving speculation is just bulls**t is it?

{Editor Note: Seriously, are you actually stupid? Torres played for Atletico Madrid and he does love the club. Their biggest rivals are Real Madrid and he would never play for them. I even think he has said so in the past. Because I said that doesn't mean that I think the speculation isn't true. How did you come up with that conclusion?}

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29 Jan 2011 18:44:50
Liverpool Rumours
Hello everyone. I am as anxious as all of you to hear what happens next in the Fernando saga as well as an official announcement of Suarez's signing. But I figure it has all been said on here already. Turning our attention to some players that we already have, does anyone know about potential loan deals in the works for some of our most promising starlets?

I remember Dani Pacheco saying earlier in the window that they were looking to send him out on loan. I think it is clear that he is above the Reserve level. So do we know if he is in Kenny's plans for the rest of this term or might he be loaned out? Personally I would like to see him loaned to some place like Blackpool, or perhaps a Champ side like QPR. The football of those sides would suit him.

Also any news on loaning out one of our young centrebacks? Ayala has returned from Hull and I remember it saying on the site that he might go back out. Also any chance that Danny Wilson may go on loan to get some games? Obviously no one could answer all these questions unless they were Damien Comoli. Ed which would you like to see loaned out?
Anfield Rapstar

{Editor Note: I'd keep them all and give them chances in the team.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:44:09
I'm over the fact Torres is leaving now. We as a club need to move on if he wants to play with a scumbag club like Chelsea where the captain bangs his team mates wives then best of luck to him. But I think he's made a huge mistake as Chelsea are in decline plus I don't think they would be ok under the fair play rules would they ed?
My concern would be Daniel " I'm so s**t I'm up my own arse" sturridge coming to replace him. He is s**t we don't want him coming stay in London you t**t. Would only accept players like llorente hulk or aguero.

Fowler is god

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29 Jan 2011 18:43:58
Goal.com have an exclusive Liverpool in negotiations with Chelsea 40 mil plus anelka they also have Milan jovanovic down as having scored 6 goals for us this season must of missed them extra goals he's scored

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29 Jan 2011 18:43:26
Liverpool Rumours
Suarez passed his medical, will play on wednesday. I can also confirm that King Kenny tried 2 convince Torres to stay last night!

Bennoman

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29 Jan 2011 18:41:56
Liverpool Rumours
Ed just a thought 50mil yossi & anelka

kdkop

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29 Jan 2011 18:41:12
Liverpool Rumours
I'm really disappointed in the timing of Fernandos' transfer request its overshadowed the whole Suarez signing! We should all be celebrating instead we are worrying over the potential loss of our star striker. if we do lose Torres then it should involve a player + cash deal (Anelka or Sturridge) or else we are going to have a strike force with no prem league experience! YNWA
Coolhand LFC

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29 Jan 2011 18:40:09
Is all this torres saga taking away from us actually going after our proper january targets like honda nzogbia adam warnock etc

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29 Jan 2011 18:39:22
Ed, why does some numpty's post wishing every one happy christmas make it on the site and my posts do not?

{Editor Note: Wish people would stop moaning about this. For about the millionth time, your post will have been put through provided it wasn't foul in any way. You've probably missed it as we have literally had 100 posts at a time to edit and post in the past 48 hours. }

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And i wish you'd leave out the christmas messages. Anyway, i didn't miss it as i've been glued to this site all day.

{Editor Note: Your dummy back in yet?}

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29 Jan 2011 18:39:09
{Editor Note: Torres would never play for Real Madrid as he played for Atletico Madrid.}

How do you know? because he said he wouldn't? ? hmm

{Editor Note: Becuase he loves Atletico Madrid and they are massive rivals with Real Madrid. Anyone who knows anything about football could tell you that.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:38:26
Liverpool Rumours
Just saw a picture of suarez leaving Melwood and wearing the liverpool training gear and smiling. Must have gone well

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29 Jan 2011 18:38:22
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed, hearing conflicting reports that LFC are now negotiating to get Anelka involved in the deal which would amount to around 50 million quid and on the other hand that Kenny has talked to Torres and that he would sign an extension on Tuesday? ?. . Do u know which is true. . personally, I would let the little him go. .I believe he's burnd the bond he had with the fans. Thanks in advance mate.

Bob Lee Swagger

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29 Jan 2011 18:38:21
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 18:13:44
Liverpool Rumours
News is Liverpool are negotiating with Chelsea, they are discussing 45 million pound deal plus Anelka
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Please no, would prefer Sturridge instead of Anelka.

redinthehead.

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29 Jan 2011 18:37:54
Liverpool Rumours
No transfers r going ahead till torres deal is sorted, liverpool want 50 mill plus anelka, the money raised will be used to get adams, n zogbia and a last minute offer for young that will still leave 20 mill, bargain i say for a player who has lost interest

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29 Jan 2011 18:34:53
Liverpool Rumours
With regards someones earlier post about John Henry/ Red Sox and Manny Ramirez. . Manny though talented was a problem (though a very good)player (moody/ sulky egotistical and a distraction, wanted a move). and what Henry/ Redsox did in fact do, was to get shot of him the minute a deal came to the table that they liked. I'm not saying this to be negative, what I mean is, I think the owners will do business on their terms only when it comes to their players! They won't be afraid to let a player go if they think its for the benefit of the team, equally they'll try their hardest to keep players for the good of the team!

Personally, A happy Torres on top of his game I would try my hardest to keep, A Moody out of sorts Torres can go. . We know he's in need of better quality service, but that's what LFC are trying to bring in. Stand Up and be counted
Nando! Show the class and honour that you've shown us in the past!

El Diablo!

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29 Jan 2011 18:34:38
Liverpool Rumours
"Twitter is going mad with Torres U-Turn. Hope its true! Something tells me this whole saga is to do with £££"

I'd like to point out friend that could mean he is allowed to leave too unfortunatelt.

Chipkin9

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29 Jan 2011 18:34:06
Liverpool Rumours
We have Suarez now and very much uncertain about Torres.hope this topic gets sorted very soon.seems like Lfc is being followed by bad luck after the Suarez deal.in fact, we just had a £6.5m bid rejected by Blackpool for Charlie Adam.
Going less likely that we'll be getting other signings.

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29 Jan 2011 18:33:50
Liverpool Rumours
Empire of the Kop have put a link to a picture of Suarez in a liverpool training kit on twitter! That one in at least phew!

YNWA Quincey

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29 Jan 2011 18:33:34
Liverpool Rumours
His armband proved he was a red SUAREZ SUAREZ. You"ll never walk alone it read SUAREZ SUAREZ. He bought it from a lad from Spain, long blond hair, forgot his name, LUIS SUAREZ LIVERPOOL number 9.
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Love this. Hats off.

Irish RED

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29 Jan 2011 18:31:32
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 18:15:29
Liverpool Rumours
Just seen suarez leaveing melwood in full liverpool training gear on ssn must of gone well ?

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No.7 or No.11 on the training gear?

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29 Jan 2011 18:30:12
Ed , im getting a little worried . suarez had his medical earlier and still no news whether he passed or not? your thoughts ed ?

{Editor Note: He left Melwood in a Liverpool tracksuit. Looks positive.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:29:41
Liverpool Rumours
Essien anelka malouda plus 20 million

thats what i want, essien to solve our defensive midfield problems and anelka to cover us til the end of the season up front

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29 Jan 2011 18:28:28
Ed do you think we will hear anything today going to have a breakdown is he staying or going hope it does not drag out till last day and he goes and no time to get someone else? great to see suarez here at last

{Editor Note: We're in for a long few days mate.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:27:38
Liverpool Rumours
Do you think all this stuff about torres was already planned.

i think they new for ages he wanted to leave and i think they sacked hodgeson, put kenny in charge so everyone would have the feel good factor.
and then 2 weeks later theres all this stuff with torres.

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29 Jan 2011 18:27:02
Liverpool Rumours
Evrybody can Check Out "Liverpool Sightings" - Suarez Coming out of Melwood in his Liverpool trainers! Great day. .Forget Nado. .Lets Give Luis a Warm Welcome !

Ed when do you think the presentation would be ?

{Editor Note: Don't know mate.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:26:38
Liverpool Rumours
Torres has made a u-turn ha so what, unless he's got an extremely good excuse i would prefer him to go now an get this stupid media attention off us an get back to playing football. thoughts eds?

david lfc

{Editor Note: The damage is done. I've lost all respect for Fernando Torres regardless of whether he stays or not and should he stay I certainly won't be buying this line about him loving our club and fans.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:25:31
Liverpool Rumours
I've been keeping this to myself all day, and have been reading up alot of tripe about Torres' not being commited, and it is such an "odd" time to request a transfer, ESPECIALLY after a bid from Chelsea

Did it occur to anyone else that this was Liverpool telling Chelsea "we've told Nando he's not going and the player knows that, take a hint, he's not for sale", however Nando didn't request a move (It was a solid stance on our behalf).

Not only that but after we rejected thier first 2 bids, and then this news breaks of Nando wanting out but leaving it too late; Hasn't that got to sicken the s**t out of Chelsea and frustrate them even more that they didn't strengthen in the window?

Might just give us an edge next fortnight when we field a new threat to them, and they rile over the "Torres saga"

Liverpool fans will always love and forgive Nando when he scores goals for us, so there were no worries of losing our faith in him.

(please accept, I nevert got a post on here ever)

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29 Jan 2011 18:24:41
Liverpool Rumours
Watching southampton game fp chamberlain looks like he can do it against big teams LIVERPOOL SHOULD PUT IN A CHEEKY BID WOT U THINK ED?

{Editor Note: Hasn't really done enough to impress me personally.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:24:28
Liverpool Rumours
Great site this ed. My biggest worry with torres going is that we have no replacement and that's a big big worry. I know we have suarez but he will take time to settle in. Ed do you think we gave another striker lined up?

{Editor Note: I don't think we've had time to line up anyone else.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:23:35
Liverpool Rumours
Hey guys. Just watching the Manure - Southampton game and have been really impressed by the young lad Oxlade-Chamberlain. He's gonna become a quality player in the future - but watching him tonight he could easily step into our first team. So, Commoli, go and get him! His supposed move to the Arse has stalled - so let's step up our interest. Come on the Reds! YNWA.

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29 Jan 2011 18:23:33
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 17:56:33
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
Chelsea to offer 46.3 million + sturridge liverpool will then use this cash to capture the signature of ricky van wolfwinkle from wolfsberg trust me on this ed i have a very very reliable source on the inside

Van Wolfwinkle plays for Utrecht not Wolfsberg, so your source does sound 'very very reliable'

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sorry about that i did drop a clanger saying wolfsberg u are right i hold my hands up but my rumour is 110% accurate it will be on deadline day for around 8-8.5 mill trust me his agent louis laros has even told lfc to approach him

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29 Jan 2011 18:22:28
SUAREZ HAS PASSED MEDICAL! ANNOUNCEMENT ON OFFICIAL WEBSITE AT 6

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Really?
I don't see it on the LFC site and its after 6! !

NiRed

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sorry mate, he has passed medical and should be announced in nxt hour.

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29 Jan 2011 18:22:18
Liverpool Rumours
Pictures of suarez getting into Audi with LFC training top on. So looking good and welcome to LFC :) YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 18:21:53
Liverpool Rumours
Note to Ed

Konchesky can not go on loan as he is not allowed to be registered with 3 clubs within one season, so he is staying

Please add to rumor page

{Editor Note: Yes, three different clubs. Siging for Fulham wouldn't make it three different clubs.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:21:40
29 Jan 2011 17:45:32
Would anybody take essien +35m

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No way Hose. Getting on and no where near as good since his numerous injury problems. M'Vila - as good as Essien was, 20 and 15m. Watch plenty of French league and he is an amazing player.

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29 Jan 2011 18:21:38
Liverpool Rumours
WILL SUAREZ BE READY TO PLAY FOR THE STOKE CITY GAME?
ED DO YOU NO WHEN IT WILL BE OFFCIAL?

{Editor Note: Probably tonight sometime.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:21:34
Liverpool Rumours
Stories goin about dat we r negotiating for a swap deal involving torres nd anelka in exchange, I would have prefer kalou, nd mayb we can use jovanovic as a striker upfront, wat do u think ed?

{Editor Note: Thinking about it, I'd be happy with cash only.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:20:56
Hey Ed, just wondering what your opinion on Sturridge is? Do you rate him? Would he be a useless acquisition if we did get him as part of the Torres deal should it happen? Cheers mate.

{Editor Note: Don't really rate him to be honest.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:20:01
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 17:43:35
Liverpool Rumours
Now I feel Liverpool is my English club, the way Atletico is my Spanish club. I would not like to play for another English or Spanish club. This feeling is very important to me - Fernando Torres

I just don't understand it, after saying this how could he contemplate a move, especially to Chelsea? Two weeks ago he was so adamant on staying, I'm just waiting for when torres comes out and says his future is with Liverpool, don't see any chance in this now though :(

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29 Jan 2011 18:19:56
Ed just read Sid lowes article on buy out clauses and he says that augero would cost around 80 million euros if atletico don't want to sell is this true?

{Editor Note: His release clause is said to be around £39-40m. (Although I'm not sure). But Sid Lowe is a clown.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:19:56
Like everybody else, I'm disappointed that FT wants to leave but if we can negotiate a deal of cash + Michael Essien and can purchase a decent replacment forward before the window closes, I'll drive Fernando to London myself.

As others have said, no player is bigger than LFC and we have always recovered before, when great players moved to pastures new.

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29 Jan 2011 18:17:57
Quick question: Would you rather have the Torres of the last 4 years or the one of the next 4?

C.C.

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29 Jan 2011 18:17:44
Ed what do you think of this if torres wants to leave in this transfer window shouldnt we get in contact with real madrid and ask for 20 million and benzema as a replacement 4 torres it would be good 4 liverpool cash and a striker would hate 2 see him playing 4 any one in the premier league other than lfc

{Editor Note: Torres would never play for Real Madrid as he played for Atletico Madrid.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:16:09
29 Jan 2011 17:45:42
Liverpool Rumours
The current Athletic Bilbao president's term runs out in the summer i believe, and the incoming president (favourite to take the post anyway) has apparently said he has no problem in selling Llorente to Madrid (insulting basque tradition). It looks like the only way we will get Llorente is to offer more than Madrid or by making Liverpool seem like the better option out of the two.

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Perhaps we need to get away from the Spanish thing for a while. Any spaniard that does well will be poached and tapped up by Mad & Barca. Go for Cavani.

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29 Jan 2011 18:15:53
His armband proved he was a red torres torres, but roman came and turned his head torres torres, went to the club that gives out flags, and were the captain shags the slags.fernando torres keep an eye on ye bird

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29 Jan 2011 18:14:33
Liverpool Rumours
A lot of names have been put forward to possibly replace Nando and I would be happy with most of them, except E'to and Carroll, but nobody has mentioned a player that I really like the look of namely, Lucas Barrios I think he could be a real option. Would also like us to try for Lovren at centre half what do you think ed's ?

{Editor Note: I've heard of Barrios but I don't know much about him apart from him doing well with Dortmund. Aguero or Llorente would be my first choices.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:12:40
Ed, why does some numpty's post wishing every one happy christmas make it on the site and my posts do not?

{Editor Note: Wish people would stop moaning about this. For about the millionth time, your post will have been put through provided it wasn't foul in any way. You've probably missed it as we have literally had 100 posts at a time to edit and post in the past 48 hours. }

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29 Jan 2011 18:12:22
Liverpool Rumours
Charlie Adam's father slams Blackpool for blocking Anfield move!

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29 Jan 2011 18:12:01
How does a mere mortal gain access to the hallowed twitter sites that say the turn-coat has u-turned?

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29 Jan 2011 18:09:30
Liverpool Rumours
Oh no IT IS HAPPENING IT IS ON GOAL.COM BREAKING NEWS LFC ARE ACTUALLY NEGOTIATING WITH CHELSEA AND WANT ANELKA PLUS MONEY I CAN'T BELIEVE MY EYES I AM GUTTED! ED COMMENT PLEASE

{Editor Note: Goal.com "exclusive". Their "exclusive" is just a way of saying "we are making this all up, but calling it exclusive so that when we're the only website saying this no-one will believe its false."

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29 Jan 2011 18:09:24
Ed or Macca or anyone?

Tell me eveyone says Aguero is an lfc fan but he made one comment after we won the UCL and club looked like it was on the up since then he has said how he could learn from Drogba and would like Chelsea move, so I don't think he is a fan.

Turan I can only see one statement on LFC whats this about club crest in his house?

Also Torres was never a fan his armband was in ref to his mates and as a kid he liked Arsenals style.

These millionaire mrecenaries don't give a damn about fans or the club.

Does anyone know good players who support us for real?

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29 Jan 2011 18:09:09
Liverpool Rumours
Japan beat Australia 1 - 0 in the Asia cup final.
Hopefully we will hear soon if Honda on the way

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29 Jan 2011 18:07:50
Just thinking aloud here. We all assume Torres was tapped up, let's say he was and the King has persuaded him to stay, could we go to the FA with Torres and tell them about the tapping up?

Dublad

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29 Jan 2011 18:05:41
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 17:45:44
Liverpool Rumours
Chelsea to offer 46.3 million + sturridge liverpool will then use this cash to capture the signature of ricky van wolfwinkle from wolfsberg trust me on this ed i have a very very reliable source on the inside


Cool, feel bad for utrecht though, he plays for them and wolfsberg get the money.

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29 Jan 2011 18:04:45
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 17:38:36
SUAREZ HAS PASSED MEDICAL! ANNOUNCEMENT ON OFFICIAL WEBSITE AT 6

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Really?
I don't see it on the LFC site and its after 6! !

NiRed

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29 Jan 2011 18:04:29
Liverpool Rumours
In my opinion guys , nando goin knowhere , think about it , there is no way he will sign for another english team , no one in italy can afford him , that leaves spain , he will never sign for real , so he either leaves for barca ( maybe but not now ) or take the family back to athletico (cant afford him , but maybe some sort of deal with aguero? but only in summer as aguero is injured ) mike1366

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29 Jan 2011 18:04:27
Liverpool Rumours
If Torres "turn coat" leaves, we will still be in the same position of having a striker shortage, even more so by the fact that Ecclestone has gone on loan. If he does leave then i expect NESV/ KK to have someone ready to come in. We have been in need of an extra world class striker for 2 years and would we really want to wait another six months?. As for AbramoRICH, the club should tell him he we'll sell for no less than £60mil.

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29 Jan 2011 18:03:34
Liverpool Rumours
Sorry peeps announcement delayed due to paper work finalising. 7 oclock.

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29 Jan 2011 18:03:01
Everyone is saying if we sell torres get another 3 or 4 attacking players. . Liverpool main problem is defence this season. . no left back. . one decent CB. . and a RB that can't defend. altough kelly seems pretty good

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29 Jan 2011 18:02:26
Why is suarez deal not announced? ?
I hear the deal is not happening!
Ed, what have you heard?

{Editor Note: He left Melwood looking very happy. What you've heard is Twitter talk.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:01:14
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 17:51:32
Liverpool Rumours
I would just like to say a very Merry Christmas to all the Eds especially and all the great users of this absolutely fantastic site, so a Happy New Year to you all and let's hope that Liverpool sign some quality players in this, about to start, Transfer Window.

Thanks Ed(s) have a fantastic Christmas!

{Editor Note: Christmas was over a month ago? lol}


He's probably Chinese, Ed.

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29 Jan 2011 18:01:11
Liverpool Rumours
Has suarez passed his medical yet ed ?

{Editor Note: I hope so.}

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29 Jan 2011 18:00:29
I can't understand why torres wants to leave at this time.
it must be more than just money,

i thought torres was different he seemed it.

my 12 year old daughter has been cryiny all day and she won't eat anything .

these overpaid carless footballers should have to come and see how much pain and heartache there movements do to children.

i hope in 12 years time torres children are heartbroken over some stupid footballer see how he likes it.

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29 Jan 2011 17:59:12
Liverpool Rumours
Hi to all pool fans. Does anyone know where comoli is at the moment? Could he be trying to get somebody in so that then we could release Torres? All the news are focused on Torres at the moment leaving our agents free to roam about. What do you you think ed?

Gozo David

{Editor Note: I think Comolli was at Melwood today meeting Suarez.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:59:10
Liverpool Rumours
Watchin southampton vs manure that oxlade chamberlin looks a very talented footballer very fast y dot we throw 7m bid in.

CH94

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29 Jan 2011 17:58:40
Liverpool Rumours
Not a rumor but do you rekon that Suarez will play on Wednesday against stoke ed?

{Editor Note: Hopefully.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:58:18
Stop all the Torres u turn s**t will u if he had it would straight out on the lfc website or a press conference being announced, Chelsea will again tonight put in an increased offer for him.

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29 Jan 2011 17:58:05
I would just like to say a very Merry Christmas to all the Eds especially and all the great users of this absolutely fantastic site, so a Happy New Year to you all and let's hope that Liverpool sign some quality players in this, about to start, Transfer Window.

Thanks Ed(s) have a fantastic Christmas!

{Editor Note: Christmas was over a month ago? lol}

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What the.?! On my watch and calendar it says 25 December, wtf is going on?! A month ago?!

{Editor Note: Afraid so.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:56:33
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
Chelsea to offer 46.3 million + sturridge liverpool will then use this cash to capture the signature of ricky van wolfwinkle from wolfsberg trust me on this ed i have a very very reliable source on the inside

Van Wolfwinkle plays for Utrecht not Wolfsberg, so your source does sound 'very very reliable'

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29 Jan 2011 17:56:06
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 17:45:44
Liverpool Rumours
Chelsea to offer 46.3 million + sturridge liverpool will then use this cash to capture the signature of ricky van wolfwinkle from wolfsberg trust me on this ed i have a very very reliable source on the inside

Re: the above

Your source is s**te!

The winkle doesn't play for Wolfsburg! Muppet!

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29 Jan 2011 17:55:03
Liverpool Rumours
Sky Sports News just showed a quick clip (about 17:38 ish) of Suarez at Melwood, he was getting into a car driving away . . He was wearing a Liverpool training jumper (the black ones with the red stripes n that)
To me that looks like everything is sorted and personal details have been agreed then!

Any news on any other players we are looking at ed? Just watched the Asia cup final as well . . Honda? Didnt light up the pitch to say the least

{Editor Note: Don't know mate, I think Charlie Adam seems most likely.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:54:18
Liverpool Rumours
Torres to stay till end of season and if he still wants to leave he will be allowed only to a team abroad

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29 Jan 2011 17:53:18
We will have to wait to see what happens with the torres speculation but we should go all out for arda turran and adam johnson then we would have great width and loads of goals from the wings.something we haven't had for years.

we have had plenty of decent strikers come and go butwe have not won the league since we had wingers

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29 Jan 2011 17:52:24
How could torres sit down with Dalglish last night hes in spain with his family.

So dissapointed in Torres thought he was an honourable man seems he is just another footballer

not knocking u tc but i swear ssn said torr came into the club and handed his request in. might be wrong our they just taking s**t as normal.

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29 Jan 2011 17:52:18
Liverpool Rumours
This is just a thought. if we do sell Torres for 45-60 million, we could use the money to help Suarez by bringing in Diego Forlan. they would work well together, and they would want to stay for the long term. plus, if Comolli does his job properly, we could get Charlie Adam as well.

just a thought.

i d rather cavani, also uruguyan

suarez and cavani(23 million also)

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29 Jan 2011 17:51:32
Liverpool Rumours
I would just like to say a very Merry Christmas to all the Eds especially and all the great users of this absolutely fantastic site, so a Happy New Year to you all and let's hope that Liverpool sign some quality players in this, about to start, Transfer Window.

Thanks Ed(s) have a fantastic Christmas!

{Editor Note: Christmas was over a month ago? lol}

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29 Jan 2011 17:49:27
Ed any news on the rumour about

Kyriakos popadopolous 18 year old Schalke defender?

there was talk bout money and our Greek in exchange for him. . there are a few good young greeks at the mo. .and turks. .

{Editor Note: Nothing at the moment mate.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:49:08
Liverpool Rumours
Goal.com saying that anelka to be in the deal for torres ( the deal will be up to £50m ) but how much cash is that then , sumit like £40m + anelka? he can't be worth much more than £10m at the age of 31 ,

ed what do you think any truth at all? plus what do you think of anelka?

{Editor Note: Anelka isn't worth £10m, but it would only be a short-term solution in my opinion.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:46:23
Liverpool Rumours
If Torres does not want to play for LFC then fair enough, we can plan for his departure.

However, this does not mean that he goes now, and he goes to Chelsea. It is likely that Chelsea will be one of our main rivals in the coming years, so there is no way we should allow him to move there.

Also, he goes when we have had time to plan replacements, not with just hours left in the window.

So the discussions with KK will hopefully convince him to stay anyway, as a move to Chelsea is no big progression. An old squad, in decline, and struggling to get into the top four.

If he insists on going then we agree that he plays for us till the end of the season, with commitment, and then we wave him off, exchanging him for over £50m.

I really want him to stay, but if the worst happens it needs to happen on LFC's terms, not Nando's or CFC's.

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29 Jan 2011 17:46:15
Liverpool Rumours
Why do people keep suggesting we replace Torres with Diego Forlan? It's like being married to Halle Berry and replacing her with Anne Widdecombe!

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29 Jan 2011 17:45:47
Just to be clear I am all for Feranando Torres doing a U-Turn and recomitting himself to the club , perhaps by signing a new long term contract under Kenny Dalglish and NESV .

I would be delighted to see Torres and Suarez become one of the partnerships that were -

Aldridge and Beardsley ,
Rush and Dalglish ,
Toshack and Keegan ,
Hunt and St John .

However if he has to leave , hopefully we can just move on succeed without him .

1977

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29 Jan 2011 17:45:42
Liverpool Rumours
"Hey about llorente and the rumour that he has agreed to join real madrid, well about 3/ 4 days ago on tribal football it had a story on bilbao's president saying that he will never sell llorente to real madrid,
so we do stil have a chance
please post ed!

The current Athletic Bilbao president's term runs out in the summer i believe, and the incoming president (favourite to take the post anyway) has apparently said he has no problem in selling Llorente to Madrid (insulting basque tradition). It looks like the only way we will get Llorente is to offer more than Madrid or by making Liverpool seem like the better option out of the two.

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29 Jan 2011 17:45:33
Liverpool Rumours
Ed can you clarify if Liverpool do have a press conference scheduled for today? and where we can view this information? thank you.

{Editor Note: It started on Twitter, so probably not true.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:45:32
Would anybody take essien +35m

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29 Jan 2011 17:45:24
Liverpool Rumours
Just a question for ed or anyone who can answer because I'm not 100% sure of all the conditions etc of transfers, if Suarez finally signs for us is he eligable to play for us in europa league? And what would prevent a player playing for a club after being transfered in european competition? ?

{Editor Note: I don't know mate. Haven't checked up on it.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:44:47
Really disgusted by Chelski's underhanded tapping of players. For once - just for once - i wish we can tap one of their players, say Michael Essien. You know what? If they offered $50M + Essien, I'll take it immediately

SingRed

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29 Jan 2011 17:44:45
Liverpool Rumours
Do you think Hulk would be a good buy, from Porto?

If we do sell Torres then I think we should buy a collection of players not just one major signing.

We could do with:

Adam Johnson
Honda
Crouch (as back up)
Aguero
Mexes

What do you think Ed?

TJ

{Editor Note: Wouldn't be too keen on Crouch coming back.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:44:26
Liverpool Rumours
To clear up the situation regarding torres's buy now clause:
If we do not finish in the top 4 this season then a buy now clause of 50 million comes into place

YNWA

KingIsBack

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29 Jan 2011 17:44:19
Liverpool Rumours
Peter Mc

Last night Torres official website had the Shankly gates at the top of home page with 'YNWA' in prime position. Also the top picture of FT was in Liverpool shirt.

Both have now gone. . . . .

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29 Jan 2011 17:43:35
Liverpool Rumours
Now I feel Liverpool is my English club, the way Atletico is my Spanish club. I would not like to play for another English or Spanish club. This feeling is very important to me - Fernando Torres

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29 Jan 2011 17:43:32
Liverpool Rumours
Just a thought re the Charlie Adam rumours; many people have quite rightly pointed out that we could get much better players for the same price (someone mentioned banega), and were asking why we are pushing for Adam instead.

Could this have something to do with the home-grown rule, and ensuring that we have space in the squad for more foreign players? If this is a chance to get a decent English midfielder ahead of this time, and free up other options (especially considering the age of carra and stevie), it would make a lot of sense., Also, doesn't this rule become more stingent in the summer as well, which might add extra impetus to this?

Would appreciate any thoughts {ed?}, especially as I am not very up to date on this rule.

YNWA

{Editor Note: In the PL I think only English and Welsh players can count as home-grown.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:41:53
Liverpool Rumours
Ed any news on the rumour about

Kyriakos popadopolous 18 year old Schalke defender?

God if we signed him it would cost a fortune to have the name on the back (around 6million as per the price he is rumoured to be available at LOL)

Would he be someone we would be interested in or is it just fiction?


REDFORLIFE

{Editor Note: Nothing new mate.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:40:30
I still love torres! i believe in him!

Mrs Torres xxx

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29 Jan 2011 17:39:42
Such a difficult year for LFC - 2010 .

Now we have excellent new owners ,

We have a Club Legend & World Class manager running the Football Club ,

We have a new Club record signing being transferred to Anfield ,

Therefore we ought to find it within ourselves in the greatest traditions of LFC to accept the resignation of a player if the player really does not want to be a the Club , many great players such as Keegan and Souness have left LFC in the past and the club moved forward .

A pity the Torres transfer request is , but there are much better things going on at the Club now than him .

Particularly what Kenny Dalglish is capable of when backed by a Football Club .

1977

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29 Jan 2011 17:36:58
I still love torres! ! i believe in him!

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29 Jan 2011 17:35:17
Liverpool Rumours
Im not someone to claim i have contacts but have an old friend who works for the club in an indepandant role he has direct access to a few players , just told me he is going nowhere

phil the red

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29 Jan 2011 17:30:46
Liverpool Rumours
Increasing rumours of a u-turn by FT are accurate.

What has the Freddy Truman got to do with any of this??

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29 Jan 2011 17:29:18
Liverpool Rumours
Peter Mc

Has there been any word on Suarez actually putting pen to paper?

Passed medical, agreed terms?

Tell me I worrying over nothing. .

Keep the faith

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29 Jan 2011 17:28:45
Liverpool Rumours
Has Suarez agreed Personal Terms yet Ed?

{Editor's Note: I am afraid that I don't know - but I doubt that it will be an issues.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:28:38
Liverpool Rumours
Anelka + £40M

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29 Jan 2011 17:27:48
Liverpool Rumours
If Torres is to do a rethink and stay, then this is good news, but i think this could be good news if we do sell and get between £50-60 million for him, we could sign A Johnson E Banega and S Aguero, these additions would be fantastic and a top four finish on the cards. but if Nando stays his partnership with suarez will be good. one way or another we are going to start challenging again.

Andy R

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29 Jan 2011 17:27:34
Liverpool Rumours
Makes you wonder why Torres and had a bit of fire in his belly over the past few games starting with the Blackpool game. He has been returning to form recently, and I've been thinking all day whether its because he's been putting himself in Chelsea's shop window because this is all obviously pre-empted.

If we get 50m plus then i'll be happy(ier). Shame, shame, I know your name. it's Torres.

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29 Jan 2011 17:26:54
Liverpool Rumours
Ed torres is odds on in all bookmakers to sign for chelsea this means the annoucement for this evening must be to confirm this. the bookies never get it wrong.

kd kop

{Editor's Note: Odds are adjusted by the amount of money placed. If you went and placed £10k on Torres to join, say, Juventus then the odds of that happening would reduce significantly.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:25:57
Liverpool Rumours
This tweets regarding upturns and statements, can people put the twitter @names for us to check out. Ive been looking but found none!

Mrs Ngog

{Editor's Note: You will just get sucked in to believing Tweets from kids just fooling around. Really not good for your blood pressure.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:25:08
Liverpool Rumours
Look my feelings on the whole torres saga are simple if he wants to go let him(We ARE LIVERPOOL NOBODY IS BIGGER THAN ARE CLUB)but i think putting in a transfer request this late is a joke.I think we should get as much money as we can plus why not try and get d sturridge. . ! !(Ed whats your feelings on torres?will he go or not)Great site! !

{Editor's Note: I think he may well go.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:22:43
Liverpool Rumours
With regards to the rumours on twitter saying Torres has withdrawn his transfer request. How the hell can u withdraw a transfer request that's been rejected! !

{Editor's Note: An excellent point.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:21:55
Liverpool Rumours
We will have to wait to see what happens with the torres speculation but we should go all out for arda turran and adam johnson then we would have great width and loads of goals from the wings.something we haven't had for years.

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29 Jan 2011 17:21:05
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool negotiating with Chelsea over £50m Fernando Torres bid but want Nicolas Anelka included in deal instead of Daniel Sturridge.

Liverpool have asked for Nicolas Anelka to be included in Chelsea's £50 million bid for Fernando Torres as a stunning deal before the transfer window closes grows more likely, Goal.com UK can reveal.

If This is True, i give up and give in.

Soulmiester

Ed>>>>Whats the world coming to, Could you see liverpool push this after saying he isn't for sale full stop.

{Editor's Note: Of course.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:17:52
Liverpool Rumours
ED , is torres still going to chelsea or what?

{Editor's Note: Possibly.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:17:07
Liverpool Rumours

Ed, Do you think that any of the following will join Liverpool this window? Honda, Aguero, Adam, Young, Cahill and Lakaklu.

{Editor's Note: Possibly; No; Probably; Just possibly; Very unlikely; Not a chance.}

Also do you believe Torres will leave this month?

{Editor's Note: Probably.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:16:51
Liverpool Rumours
Keep posting that espn say Chelsea to increase bid for Torres to 60 mill tonight.
Is this just more speculation or do we think it's true?
Gonna give up if this one gets ignored.

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29 Jan 2011 17:16:39
Japan 1 - 0 australia :)
now lets see torres commit to liverpool to make this day better!

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29 Jan 2011 17:15:53
Liverpool Rumours
The 7pm conference (if there is one) could be to confirm the signing of our little genius Suarez.

Would love it if Torres changes his mind though, what a front two. .

Michael Duvall

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29 Jan 2011 17:15:52
Liverpool Rumours
Told u last week Ed gerrard an Chelsea spy Cole upsetting the apple cart pic were on lfctv Cole is a spy an gerrard has got to much to say he needs bringen back down even under Roy we played as team when gerrard was not playing torres to stay if we do sell .sell to city or barca maybe a swop deal in there somewhere . Chelsea deserve h""k all city will nock fergie down a peg or 2 toreros to be given arm band in new deal gerrard to real Madrid


?? ? WTH. . . .

Ah Spud from Trainspotting is alive and well.

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29 Jan 2011 17:14:37
Ed - Yes or No Charlie Adam deal, surely a no now?
Is Suarez (although an exciting prospect) the sum of our players in for this transfer period?

{Editor's Note: No news on Adam, so he remains a possible. I would not be surprised to see one more arrival.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:14:08
Liverpool Rumours
Ed its gone abit quiet on the charlie adam front. do you think all the clubs attention is now being put on the torres saga, or do you think business is still going ahead as before to sign players?

{Editor's Note: If the club are interested in the player still, I am sure taht efforts are being made.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:12:59
Liverpool Rumours
" Ed i can understand every1 saying lets get rid of torres if he doesn't wanna be here and use the money to re-invest and re-build our squad, but with the transfer window being nearly over, i can't see us having the time required to buy anyone . ."

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On the other hand, there may have been targets whose fee was the only hurdle preventing a deal being completed. Suarez was probably never a real certainty whilst the valuations of the player by Liverpool and Ajax were so far apart and there was the possibility of another club hi-jacking the deal at the last, so it would make sense to have suitable alternatives. With the Torres cash, that would remove that hurdle.

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29 Jan 2011 17:12:55
Liverpool Rumours
Ed what do you think of offering torres to inter for coutinho and santon plus about 10 miliion?
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Lol, selling the best striker in the world (on his day) for two teenagers (who havnt set the world alight) and 10m is absoultley hilarious.
Anyway if this true about Torres doing a U-turn, then i will be pleased. Hopefully we'll sign a quality midfielder before the window's end.
Any news about Honda Ed? As u were quiet confident earlier in the window.

E.H LFC

{Editor's Note: No news.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:12:23
Liverpool Rumours
Ed jus heard torres withdrawn his tranfer request can you clear this and tell me please
CHEERS BAKER

{Editor's Note: No news, sorry - I assume you are a Twitter follower.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:12:16
Liverpool Rumours
Banega would be a quality addition to the LFC squad. However would he be as robust as Adam in a defensive midfield role.

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29 Jan 2011 17:11:43
Liverpool Rumours
The Torres situation could be the same as Rooney a while back, maybe its all just down to a pay rise. . But the way I see it this all came out before we signed Suarez, I think Torres gave the owners an ultimatum, either buy Suarez or i'm gone, simple as that. When you think about it, its a big leap from £12.7m to £22.8m. Stop panicing people, Torres is still a red and Dalglish would never let him leave, no chance.

Rocky

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29 Jan 2011 17:11:10
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed, great site. just like to say i'm really happy with the suarez signing, also if torres wants to leave let him go, he'll regret it in time as he won't be loved anywhere else like he is at liverpool, demand 50mil from chelsea, use the money for aguaro as hes a better all round footballer than torres, we've got a goalscorer in suarez to replace the goals nando scores and aguaro is the perfect linkman to play alongside him, use the rest of the money for charlie adam and arda turan who both want to play for the club then get rid of lucas konchesky the greek ngog jovanovic over time as all never will be good enough to wear the liverpool shirt, move kuyt to his favoured position as backup and throw joe cole into the mix to create as we're lacking it badly. Also if a move for swp at the right money was available we should go for him as he has the pace to beat players and put teams on the back foot, something we're badly lacking and have been for years, drenthe is also a player that would be a great addition the injection of fluidity and pace from the players mentioned woud propell us up the table in no time, Fact. anyone agree? Gazza.

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29 Jan 2011 17:11:05
Liverpool Rumours
ED Are all these rumours about Twitter coming from different people or the same one.

{Editor's Note: No idea I am sorry - just ignore anything to do with Twitter.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:10:15
Liverpool Rumours
How could torres sit down with Dalglish last night hes in spain with his family.

So dissapointed in Torres thought he was an honourable man seems he is just another footballer

TC

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29 Jan 2011 17:09:06
Liverpool Rumours
I don't understand these rumours about Torres not knowing about the transfer request. He handed in a WRITTEN transfer request surely that means that he himself did it. Him changing his mind is possible but I don't think he didn't know about it. Am I right in assumeing that and is there any news Ed

{Editor's Note: No news.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:07:58
Torres is in Spain at the minute so there have been no face to face clear the air talks. He clearly wants to go I think he has lost a lot more than LFC have.

He goes from hero to zero and joins the growing ranks of forgetable mercenaries.

Football as Shanks said is like socialism it is a collective effort, so H**K OFF NANDO

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29 Jan 2011 17:06:42
Liverpool Rumours
Twitter is going mad with Torres U-Turn. Hope its true! Something tells me this whole saga is to do with £££

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who is saying this i can't find anyone saying it?

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29 Jan 2011 17:06:38
Liverpool Rumours
Ed has suarez had his medical yet ?

{Editor's Note: I don't know.}

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29 Jan 2011 17:06:19
Liverpool Rumours
Apparently Fernando Torres has fired his agent,

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29 Jan 2011 17:05:44
Liverpool Rumours
I would prefer the following should Torres leave

We sign Aguero and Hazard (with the 55 million we get for the brat)

We also sign Ever Banega for 8 million instead of Charlie Adam.

We sign Khesukie Honda for 10 - 12 million

We sign Davide Santon from Inter for 10 million

The above five would all be brilliant additions to our squad and make us much more solid with an abundance of attacking flair.

I think if all this came off we would be all saying Fernando who?

Ed do you think there's any chance on the above coming if he goes?

{Editor's Note: Very unlikely, no, possibly, a chance, unlikely.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:59:41
Liverpool Rumours
"We bought the lad from sunny spain, He gets the ball and scores again"
This is Torres and I believe that at the end of the day, the decision of him would be in our way. We need him & we all know that. But still, it feels quite a disgust of seeing fans chanting against him. C'mon be serious, he hasn't done anything against the rules. Though, we didn't expect it. But its against being a real Kopite to chant against one of our heroes. . Feel like a red and live like it. . AS, We are kopites. YNWA El_Nino

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29 Jan 2011 16:58:31
Liverpool Rumours
Hopeful team by the end of the window: (4-3-2-1)
Reina
Kelly
Carragher (when fit)
Agger
Johnson
Meireles
Adam
Gerrard
Honda
Suarez
Torres.

realistic team by the end of the window: (4-5-1)
Reina
Kelly
Carragher
Agger
Johnson
Kuyt
Gerrard
Meireles
Adam
Maxi
Suarez

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29 Jan 2011 16:58:02
Only a few weeks ago any red would have bit someone's hands off for £40m for Torres, he frustrates sulking, looses interest too quick, and in the last two seasons has played like he's made of glass. Biggest shame is he's chosen another premiership side, but that just shows he don't get what playing for Liverpool means
He won't be the 1st player of quality to move on - remember the tw$t manc owen - his move cost him a champions league medal
Liverpool will go on from strength to strength - another Kop hero will always appear

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29 Jan 2011 16:56:15
Liverpool Rumours
Ed please post this so some stupid Liverpool fans can read and also i would like you opinion.

Torres handed in a transfer request Thursday after the first Chelsea bid, even you yourself said the Suarez deal looked unlikely. The bid went up from £14 million to £23? Wonder why?!

Torres has withdrawn his transfer request. So for all the people jumping on the 'Who needs Torres' bandwagon i hope you feel like d*******s now

Kopite17. Cheers Ed.

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29 Jan 2011 16:55:41
Liverpool Rumours
Ed we shouldn't be accepting nothing less than 60 million for Nando on his day still the best.

If we get 60 million in jan I just hope we can secure Aguero and Hazard with the money by Monday.
Agueros buy out clause is 40 million so we would just need to add no more than 10 million to the Torres money to have enough for Hazard also.

Ed do you think we have any chance of these two in Jan if El Brat leaves?

{Editor Note: No mate, too little time to do anything.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:53:56
Totally agree with redmersey on earlier post, Gerrard one of our greatest players ever but sometimes really do think he stifles our play sometimes when he is on the pitch everything has to go through him, I know he had to start vs Fulham due to lucas injury but doesn't the old saying work "if it aint broke don't try & fix it", as for Torres let the red half of merseyside down take the cash & reinvest.

YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 16:52:11
Liverpool Rumours
Hey eds! Do you think the suarez deal Will be concluded today? You don't think he has had a change of heart after the whole Torres saga? And what do you make of the rumours that Torres will take back his request? Cheers

{Editor Note: If Suarez was coming to purely play with Torres then I don't want him. And the Torres rumours are on Twitter, I doubt they are true.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:52:02
Liverpool Rumours
Remember people if suarez signs , don't expect him to be amazing straight away as he will have to adapt to the EPL , because remember he has been in probably one of the weakest leagues in europe.

LFCmatty

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29 Jan 2011 16:51:47
Liverpool Rumours
Torres handed in a transfer request because he wants a bigger contract from liverpool. .when he scores he dosent even look happy . .he is all for money now let him go . .club is bigger than any player. RICK

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29 Jan 2011 16:51:01
Liverpool Rumours
Ed did u r anyone else hear there is clear the air talks happening with kk and fernando and the request will be withdrawn! Please any info

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29 Jan 2011 16:50:58
Liverpool Rumours
Afternoon ed .heard anything on statement tonight at 7oclock any truth in this story and the withdraw of nandos transfer.cheers

{Editor Note: It all started on Twitter so probably not true.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:50:13
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Edds, I was the guy who told you about the Phill Thompson story when he told my cousin that LFC would sign a world class player. This has come to true but to be honest I didn't expect us to be loosing a world class player. Surely to god LFC have known about the torres situation for a while now and do you expect us to have another world class striker lined up and I'm not including Suares in that. I have a feeling LFC have a world class player lined up which is being kept under the radar. In any case I thinf Torres has played his last game in a red shirt.

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29 Jan 2011 16:45:44
Mascherano wants to return to the Premiership, unhappy at Barcelona (Arsenal bid rumoured - could this finally be part of the deal that takes Fabregas to Spain?). You see - the grass isn't always greener Fernando! !

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29 Jan 2011 16:41:52
Liverpool Rumours
Woe watching the Asia Cup final n that Honda can sure pass a ball! he would be perfect service for Torres and Suarez :P

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29 Jan 2011 16:40:24
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Liverpool Rumours
Chelsea to but in a 60million pound double bid in for torres and Johnson, with this we will go after dani alves, fernando Llorente, Adam Johnson and we'll get taiwo in the summer!

Belfast RedIf torres has this 50mil clause then either you believe we're accepting less that we can get in 5 months for him (and potentially leaving us a striker down) or you believe we only rate glen at 10mil?

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29 Jan 2011 16:38:53
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed. . Are all these rumours about nando doing a U turn true?? any proof on this Ed?? we need him to stay, it is to late to get a replacement, i just can't see him playing against us in a blue shirt. . hope it won't happen . . :( he loves the fans as much as we love him. surely?

{Editor Note: Just silly rumours started on Twitter.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:38:23
Liverpool Rumours
Who is it reporting on twitter of torres U-turn? ?

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29 Jan 2011 16:38:00
Liverpool Rumours
Been watching Honda in the Asian Cup final. Technically he looks great but needs time on the ball and it worries me that he would find the EPL very hard to play in. What do u think Ed?

{Editor Note: I think he could adapt.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:37:25
Liverpool Rumours
Guys pray. that nando stays at least till the summer. that way at least we have a good chance of rebuilding the team with a long term goal. if he stay all together then great. All this talk of Aguero, for £40m, i don think it will happen, we have just paid out for suarez, and both him and kun are similar, better move would be for llorente and or benzema, even drogbaor eto would not be bad for a season or two. NESV you've got suarez, now go get hazard, santon, and a solid center back and an alonso esq midfielder.

TANI

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29 Jan 2011 16:36:26
ED please post on banter or rumour whichever

Look People get this straight we don't fully know whats gone on here and I am not even gong to try and explain cos I don't know.Will he leave us I hope not but its out of my hands.I can do nothing about it.

He has given us some fantastic moments and to slag him off is not on. If he stays then great I will continue to cheer him and the team if he goes then so be it.

Players will always come and go but LFC has solid foundations and support that will always remain true and loyal and that's the way it will always be. .

Ps any more info from Macca?

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29 Jan 2011 16:36:04
Liverpool Rumours
The Torres situation has been discussed and debated so much its actually annoying me now, i would rather he just left now then this horrible 'limbo' feeling. I agree with many of the posters today in regards to torres being very disrespectful with his timing. Why stick with LFC through one of the worst periods in its history only to turn your back when things start to improve? This decision he has made completely contradicts his comments in the past, and to even consider chelsea is a running punt aimed at our knackers. I fear there is something else going on, whether its the owners "profit" conspiracy that keeps rearing its head or the "intimidation" story, otherwise everthing indicates that the fernando we all loved and knew, is a lying mercenary and i cannot bring myself to even entertain that thought. In a perfect world, he is testing the waters for a move over seas.imagine if
he went to an english club and he scored against us? It be like witnessing an ex girlfriend sleeping with the man she left you for, a man currently more succesful and richer than you!

Red and Dead Heart Broken :p

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29 Jan 2011 16:36:04
Liverpool Rumours
Hey Ed what do you think are the chances of Man City putting in a massive bid. . .?
Santa cruz and ade have now left so they have Tevez (who may well be off in the summer), Dzeko and Balotelli (injured and reportedly unhappy). .

I'd rather sell to city than chelsea

Red andy

{Editor Note: I can't see City coming in for him now that they've signed Dzeko.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:35:36
Liverpool Rumours
Just heard that we are in talks with villa for young.
ed you think he will come considering ville have just brought bent?

{Editor Note: I don't think Villa will sell now.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:35:14
Question for Macca(i used to doubt your info I DONT NOW! And thanks for putting up what you know)

Macca are you optimistic about the future of the club we love, owners, transfer targets squad morale etc or are you pessimistic?

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No probs mate,

I think the club is most definately on the up.

We have new owners who are willing to invest and also i believe they are going to offer Dalglish a longer term contract.

We have no debt, lets just consolidate and look forward to next season.

Macca

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29 Jan 2011 16:34:42
Liverpool Rumours
I don't give a toss if Torres has changed his mind. He built up a rapour with the Liverpool supporters & in one evening destroyed it. Bad timing & wrong reasons from a guy who you'd never imagine act in this way.
If he wanted to leave it could of been done in a better manor.
I'm sure I'm not the only LFC supporter who feels this way!

Gav the RED

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29 Jan 2011 16:34:34
I've thought for a while now that Liverpool will not win anything significant until Gerrard and Carragher have left the club. Gerrard is still a great player and I'm grateful for everything he has done, but he is not above the club. His presence on the pitch now seems more to suppress the other players rather than inspire them. He is not getting any younger and now might be the time to cash in on him. The defence was a bit shaky at first after Carragher's injury but they now seem to be sorting it out under Kenny's influence. Bringing Carragher back would be a backward step in my view, as his legs have gone a bit and he only has organisational skills to offer. Also, I don't want to see him getting a backroom job at Anfield either. You'd hear his high pitched voice screaming from stop from the bench for 90 minutes non stop and this type of coaching is now as much out of date as Andy Gray and Richard Key's views on women!. Let him take his badges and scream from some other dugout!

I hope Torres stays but if he goes, trust in Kenny. In 1987 he lost Rush and brought in Beardsley, Barnes and Aldridge. We went on to see the best football in the clubs history. I think Suso and Sterling are genuine talents and they will be pushing for a place in the next 12 -18 months. They will fit in nicely with the new faces Kenny brings in and will kick off a new era for Liverpool Football Club, an era that doesn't depend on one player pulling us out of the s**t all the time.

Redmersey

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29 Jan 2011 16:34:25
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool shouldn't let Torres go until the summer, when we can get a replacement. It isn't right that we should let him go with only a couple of days left on the transfer window. After god-knows-how-long of only having one striker only to bring one in and then get rid of the other. We bought Suarez for Torres as he would complement him perfectly. The question is though, who would we sign when Torres goes? Aguero is class; hard-worker, strong and never goes to the floor. But he is too similar to Suarez- they are both kind of support strikers, to compliment another (like Aguero has done with Forlan, as he is not much of a goal scorer himself). I don't think it would work to have this partnership up-front but, of course, I might be wrong. I have always heard rumours of Llorente and I really don't rate him, he is only good in the air- which is something we need- but it isn't enough. Anyway, Kenny and the board are too smart to sell him now and at such a low price. He can go for £50m. We don't want players that don't want to play for the club.

YNWA*****

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29 Jan 2011 16:33:55
Liverpool Rumours
Last night my worst nightmare became true- the prospect of Fernando Torres leaving. My initial response was a mixture of disbelief and anger amidst some tears. But then I realised we fans should not be the ones worrying; it should be Fernando Torres himself. We, Liverpool Football Club, are: the greatest football team the world has ever seen; the most successful football club the world has ever seen; have the greatest fans the world has ever seen and we have the greatest stadium the world has ever seen- ANFIELD. As Liverpool fans we can safely say that we will never walk alone, and no matter what, we will always walk through a storm with our heads held high- like we always do, and this situation we find ourselves in now is no different. We will recover. As soon as Torres signs that Chelsea/ Man City contract he is entering an unknown land, one where you will walk alone. Endless riches at Chelsea/ Man City might appear lovely, but legendary status within the fortress of Anfield is irreplaceable. I worry for him as he could potentially live the rest of his career in regret- regret knowing that he should have stayed in Liverpool, where he has become a prominent member of our one big community; regret knowing that he will never be able to pull on that famous red shirt and score in front of the mighty Kop ever again; regret that he won't be lifting the premier league trophy with our name adorned on it, and the regret that he should have listened to King Kenny's words of 'unite.'
As a Liverpool fan (despite living in London) and Fernando Torres being my favourite player, I really hope he has made his decision with his heart as well as his head. If you are leaving us, then thank you for the memories and your brilliance, and all the best for the future. But just remember, like the words on your captain's armband at Atletico- at Liverpool you will never walk alone.

EW (p.s. Did any of you check out the American baseball player who handed back his $12million annual salary as he believed he did not deserve it as he only made 9 starts- now that is a loyal and honourable player! Sorry for the re-post ed and keep up the great work!)

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29 Jan 2011 16:33:29
Liverpool Rumours
Chelsea new offer - £37.5m plus Dean Sturridge?

I think that Nando is just genuinely concerned at the lack of transfer activity. Pre Suarez deal, there was no evidence of LFC strengthening the squad to the level that Torres (and probably other players) has been asking them to do for months. I am unsure of the timeline, but my guess is Suarez was not confirmed when the request went in from Nando? (ed what do you think on that?)
Kenny and NESV need to convince Torres that the clubs fortunes are changing, we ARE strengthening the squad and we ARE going to compete with the big teams and challenge for Champs League in the 2011/ 2012 season.
Hey, there is no guarantee Chelsea will qualify for Champs League this season anyway, Tottenham are likely to keep going strong, Chelsea are too on/ off and I can see them finishing 5th. Torres could still be playing Europa League if he moved.
I still stand by the opinion that he loves living in Liverpool and playing for the Reds, he has a young family and is settled here, he has said that in interviews. He also said in interviews that he always honours contracts and is up for the challenge - hope he wasnt Bull Sh**ing us! We just need to convince him that Liverpool is not a spent force and that the glory days will be back if we have everyones 100% committment.

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29 Jan 2011 16:32:52
Torres needs to realise any player who leaves Liverpool their career goes down, and also he will never witness playing in the most football purist arena as Anfield, with the greatest sight in Football singing YNWA.
I do feel Fernando really loves Liverpool and if only Gillette & Hicks bought 1 quality striker to accompany him up front we would have won the Premiership, and be in a great place now.

Liverpool with a few top players and 8 travellers conducted by Benetiz have beaten all the best teams in Europe and their multi million pound squads, and haven't won the premiership because of depth of squad when our few top players are injured, i.e. The difference between 2nd and 7th.

The new owners are good strategists to overcome LFC future problems Platini has lined up, and have delivered a great striker in Suarez on the first window, which should make Torres delighted to try out the partnership which could really explode and push us up the table big time.
On top of getting Suarez, by getting Adam and Nzobia to steel up the midfield, with Turam and Hazard whizing up and down the flanks is seriously a Premier league winning possibility.

It's like this Fernando, we beat Chelsea already this season with what we have, and obviously with a improved team with Suarez plus more -we can do it again, so god knows who has brainwashed you to join an ageing Chelsea team. . .What kind of dumb ass decision is it to move to a club inferior in every shape and form to Liverpool.

Chelsea billionaire enterprise can't beat Liverpool football purists when it counts in the Champions League, so have to sneek under the radar to brainwash our players to try and weaken our team, which is bang out of order.
Henry should buy Aguero and Ruis to really put Chelsea's old age pensioners in their place, once and for all.

Torres is 26, where any guy that age wouldn't be tempted by a serious improvement in wages, but at the same time saying this, if Torres is doing a Rooney to force Henry to buy now, then i feel ok we get it, but unecessary as Henry is a good man, and wants to do the right thing for a long term plan.

All the teams at the top have to play each other so they will all drop points, and as we can beat anybody of the top 4, there is nothing to stop us from a winning run getting into 4th. This is seriously possible.

Fernando please take note, -Stevie G made the most important decision ever not to sell out and turn down going to Chelsea, then karma rewarding him winning Ol' Big Ears in Istanbul, with his place secured in history as a truly great legend.
Michael Owen didn't stay, missing out big time, living with this awful decision for the rest of his life, where Fernando you will do the same. As Holloway says Its WRONG, It's WRONG, . . WRONGGGGGGGG.

If Torres wins the League at Chelsea deep down it will mean nothing, as there is a huge difference winning the Premiership with Liverpool and winning it with Chelsea, i.e Chelsea's victory parade is down the Kings road in less time than the time of a match, where on the flip side he should look at the LFC homecoming from Istanbul.

I know fans at Chelsea, Arsenal, Man.City, Blackburn, who deep down know their identity has been sold just to win the league, with Man.U soon to be owed by Qatar. .with Liverpool the only top team representing the traditions what we grew up on.
I have been to all of their grounds and i can tell you theses clubs have no identity, no scarfs, no flags, nothing, where the Fans of Liverpool is a different mentality, like a different country.

Liverpool, Celtic and Ireland have huge Tribal followings of fans who are quite happy to travel overseas to just sit outside the stadium, to say that they were there when their LFC family won against all the odds.

Liverpool would rather win the hard way keeping their identity than being owned by dictatorship owners, so Fernando should weigh everything up sensibly, stay with us, try out the partnership with Suarez and if happens and we do get 4th then make the decision to go, but you won't go to Chelsea, because they will never win nothing again with Platini's rules.
Where if it doesn't work out then in the Summer under an organised schedule we have time to find a replacement, where everybody at Liverpool will wish you well with Chelsea or wherever you go, . . .just don't leave under a cloud as we bought Suarez to partner you, and we are kind of curious to see how your partnership will work out. . . . .I PREDICT A RIOT.

Michael Irish YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 16:29:57
Even if Torres has withdrawn the transfer request he should still just go. The damage has been done.

Come on get real. . If he has a change of heart then very good , he was proberbly pist off with the lack of drive(player transfer wise). Gerrard nearly did the same thing to the same club. If he stays its our best chance of(wait for it) gettin champs lg this year. Fathead nearly did it to scum for the same reasons. Ok he is a gutless judas 2timing slob, but you see the gist. xx2

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29 Jan 2011 16:28:45
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed's - any ideas on who Simon Liggett is and his reliability? He seems to be one of the first people in Twitterland to be talking about FT withdrawing his request

Ash

{Editor Note: Probably a load of rubbish.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:28:41
Liverpool Rumours
Not sure if it's been mentioned already, but Barcelona's official Twitter account was responding to rumours that we'd bid for Dani Alves!

Also, if Torres does go (and I hope he doesn't), we should be going all out to get the likes of Alexis Sanchez, Hulk and Aguero

Jimathon

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29 Jan 2011 16:28:03
Ed who do you think we will sign by the end of the window
Cheers ed
El Irish Nino

{Editor Note: Don't know mate, Adam seems likely.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:27:48
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 15:50:32
Liverpool Rumours
Ed . i believe that a statement will be released by both liverpool and chelsea between 7 and 8 pm . doesn't sound like good news , if chelsea are releasing a statement too .

ngs77


Liverpool statement could be just to announce the signing of saurez

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29 Jan 2011 16:27:42
Even if Torres has withdrawn the transfer request he should still just go. The damage has been done.

Bet you won't be saying that if he stays and next game he scores a hat-trick.

I would rather have £50 m for Liverpool FC now

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29 Jan 2011 16:27:35
When is Suarez signing?? How long does it take for a medical? Maybe hes stalling until Torres decision made! !

NiRed

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29 Jan 2011 16:27:10
Question for Macca(i used to doubt your info I DONT NOW! And thanks for putting up what you know)

Macca are you optimistic about the future of the club we love, owners, transfer targets squad morale etc or are you pessimistic?

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29 Jan 2011 16:26:44
Liverpool Rumours
My source has told me that Torres has deffinatly been tapped up by Chelsea and a contract has already been agreed. Liverpool demanding £52 Million and a gentleman's agreement chelsea will not attempt to rival their bid for aguero if they sign Torres. chelsea are attempting to negotiate a deal for £40M but Liverpool are telling them £52M or forget it.

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29 Jan 2011 16:24:21
Liverpool Rumours
Hi guys espn now reporting that Chelsea are set to up offer to 60 mill tonight . Looks like he'll go if that turns out to be true. What do u think ed ?

{Editor Note: I can't see us turning down that amount of money.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:24:17
On the Torres subject. .

I will be very suprised if FSG let Torres go during the current window. . regardless of the fee or the wishes of the player.

Torres has too long left on his contract to dictate to FSG what he wants to do.

There is simply not enough time for the money to be reinvested in the squad.

Plus, more clubs will come for him in the Summer - and possible get him a move abroad.

The last thing any LFC support wants - is to see Torres in a EPL rivals shirt. .

RedTrev

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29 Jan 2011 16:23:00
Liverpool Rumours
Yesterday when the rumours surfaced on here about Torres wanting to leave the eds said it was a load of rubbish. Now there are rumours of a u-turn and guess what the eds think. . . ."it's a load of rubbish".

I love this site but if you don't know for definite eds, just say so. Don't pretend you know things. We don't expect you to know everything before anyone else but if you keep saying that "this will definately happen" or "this definately won't happen" you will ultimately get things wrong and people will lose faith in anything that you say.

Not having a go just something that I have noticed more recently from you guys.

{Editor Note: Can you read? We never once said that Torres leaving wasn't true. We don't pretend to know anything, people ask for opinions and we give them. And regarding Torres - I just felt that Balague's comments were taken out of proportion by Sky Sports as he is an unreliable source at best.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:21:04
Even if Torres has withdrawn the transfer request he should still just go. The damage has been done.

Bet you won't be saying that if he stays and next game he scores a hat-trick.

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29 Jan 2011 16:20:56
Liverpool Rumours
Heard a rumour from a guy at the Echo that Torres has withdrawn his request and will announce the sacking of his agent today. Personally I don't believe it

MR Shawcross put them kex back on. . xx1

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29 Jan 2011 16:20:56
Images of Torres have been removed from adverts already on the LFC site, come on sergio fill the void
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No they haven't.
What's Russian for **** off ?
KB

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29 Jan 2011 16:20:30
Liverpool Rumours
Ed do you think we will sign any other players other than suarez?

many thanks . Parton8

{Editor Note: Hopefully.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:20:20
Liverpool Rumours
I have been silently reading everyones posts on here regarding the Torres saga.
Its a given that the way he is acting is unacceptable and if he were to go it would be a loss but no one is bigger then our beloved club.
However if he was to stay we would still love him and sing his name. . We forgave Stevie Gerrard twice.
Being realistic NESV have always stated they will buy young talent and sell for a huge profit when player reaches a certain age. Torres is 26 contract ends when he is 28 would we still get £40 - 50 million for him then?? Would he sign a two year extension to ensure we get a sell on price and not loose him on a free. Maybe its time to cash in on certain players and build a young fresh team and turn them into a bastion of invincibility, if Napoleon had that idea he'd have conquered the bloody world. YNWA 96. PS great work Eds and all those who post Scally 13

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29 Jan 2011 16:20:06
The only reason he has had fallouts with people ( not just Gerrard and Carra) is because everyone has known at the club he does not want to be there.

He has brought this on himself.

Lets not start trying to blame anyone else and start a campaign against the people who love our club.

He wants to go, he has for a while. .

Let us all remember his performance pre Dalglish, was shocking, acting like a spoilt brat. How would you feel if you where trying very hard week in week out and he wasnt.

Lets take the money and invest wisely.

Also lets remember Gerrard and Carra are legends at our famous club.

Is right mate 100 %

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29 Jan 2011 16:19:38
Hi Ed,

Sorry if this has already been confirmed, i have had a look down the page, but cannot see anything. .

Do we know the likely ETA for the medical to be completed and the signed to be confirmed?

I know he arrived at Melwood today, and it is probably ongoing at the moment, just keen to know when the most likely time for news to break.

RedTrev

{Editor Note: Don't know mate, he'll be signed up soon.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:19:33
Liverpool Rumours
Chill out guys !Torres won't be leaving ( atleast untill summer) , this all saga was set up by him to force the owners to get in players n here is Suarez . take things in positive way people , am just dreaming of another arrival.
RI . long live the KING!

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29 Jan 2011 16:19:24
Liverpool Rumours
One thing u need to understand about Henry is he does not give in to demands from his players. He is use to the baseball world where if u sign a contract u are commited to that contract. He will let Torres sulk or sit to get more out of it in the summer. Henry knows how to deal with this kind of situation. He did the same thing with Manny Ramirez from the Boston Red Sox. Just remeber Henry is a owner who knows what he is doing have faith.

YNWA

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thats bulls**t if henry did that torres would most likely lose form again and would decrease his sell on value torres to leave now or in the summer

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29 Jan 2011 16:17:09
Liverpool Rumours
Just been watching honda on eurosport and can't see what all the fuss is about he looks very ordinary and don't think he is better than what we have

{Editor Note: Since when does one match determine a player's ability?}

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29 Jan 2011 16:15:09
{Editor Note: I'm sure Kenny would want Torres to stay but if he wants to go then what can Kenny do really.}

But isn't thedecision making on transfers based on a group decision - if Kenny wants FT, surely NESV won't go behind his back and sell him - that will seriously undermine him as manager

SingRed

{Editor Note: I don't think the group decision thing will apply to a situation like this.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:14:23
Even if Torres has withdrawn the transfer request he should still just go. The damage has been done.

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29 Jan 2011 16:14:14
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 15:48:02
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, If Liverpool offered 40m for Aguero does that mean Athletico have to accept, not saying Aguero will, just wondering and hoping. Also I think if we signed Aguero himself and Suarez would be formidable upfront, just see what Aguero is doing wit another Urugauy striker?

Please Post In Rumours.
Corkonian Red.

{Editor Note: If it is his release clause - which is apparantly around £40m.}

Hi ed, Wouldn't we still face the same problems with his wage demands?

{Editor Note: His wages are massive, but we could dramatically cut the wage bill and accomodate him if we got rid of some of the dead wood who are on big wages.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:13:28
Liverpool Rumours
Torres goin nowhere for the time being. To be sold in summer cause the club won't have enough time to sign alternative. No more signings in this window either. The players we now have will have to take responsibility for ensuring as high a finish as possible this season.

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29 Jan 2011 16:11:51
Hey EDs what do you mean by gerrard not being a good person of the feild. I know he got into a little scrap when a DJ wouldn't play phil collins, but that doesn't make him a bad guy.

{Editor Note: It's not just that.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:10:33
D how is Gerrard and Carragher to blame for Nando wanting to leave? {ed's note - no one knows if they are, but there has been accusations of verbal bullying forcing players out of the club in the past. Especially foreigners, though a number of youngsters have said similar.}

OBSERVATION RATHER THAN RUMOUR
IF ITS TRUE THE SAID PLAYERS ABOVE ARE BULLYING FOREIGN PLAYERS AND ESPECIALLY KIDS, WE SHOULD GET SHOT OF THEM AS WE DNT WANT OUR CLUB TO PICK UP STUPID LABELS.OR A REPUTATION FOR BEING BULLIES. NO PLAYERS ARE GREATER THAN OUR CLUB. NONE AT AL
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Sorry all, this is complete bollocks.

The only reason he has had fallouts with people ( not just Gerrard and Carra) is because everyone has known at the club he does not want to be there.

He has brought this on himself.

Lets not start trying to blame anyone else and start a campaign against the people who love our club.

He wants to go, he has for a while. .

Let us all remember his performance pre Dalglish, was shocking, acting like a spoilt brat. How would you feel if you where trying very hard week in week out and he wasnt.

Lets take the money and invest wisely.

Also lets remember Gerrard and Carra are legends at our famous club.

Macca

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29 Jan 2011 16:10:20
This torres stuff is to much in the press to happen kk only said last week the club will only make announcements when things are done. i.e. torr going no where (this window anyway) i can see a deal like ronaldo had, play well and give us till summer then u can get your wish.
love the lad myself and will be gutted cannot believe its just about money.
if we get 45mill and sturage(spelling) or drogba id take it. we all hate drogba but he would do us a great job for sort at least 2 seasons.
please post x

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29 Jan 2011 16:09:54
If liverpool have an announcement it will more than likly be the information of suarez passing medical and signing for LFC. . . . .

which again isn't done yet.

best info is in the pub! ! ! ! ! !

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29 Jan 2011 16:09:14
Liverpool Rumours
Macca and ed? what do you expect to happen in the next few days?

LFCmatty

{Editor Note: Either Chelsea pay £50m or Torres stays until the Summer.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:08:16
Liverpool Rumours
Great site eds! I'm just wondering why lorrente is such a popular choice with everyone? He seems like a Spanish Andy Carroll whenever I see him and is he not like 25?seems to be way too pricey for what he is I'd much rather get a player who fits into the pass and move style like auger. Thoughts eds?

{Editor Note: He's twice the player of Andy Carroll. He is big and strong, but he has great tecnique. He is top class. Andy Carroll is just a big tall bag of sand. Aside from being tall he has nothing in regards to tecnical ability.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:07:49
Liverpool Rumours
I Understand what people are saying if there is bullies in the club we should sort it out but as it stands it is fernando torres that has disrespected the club that is the only official thing we have recieved from LFC. It is only paper gossip that there has been verbal whatever.

Plus i think even if there has been a bit of verbal whatever no club is perfect especially when he is at a big club. Maybe when he was at atheltico he was the bully. And he is joining chelsea who's Captain JT slept with another players wife. Wow what a great club. If i was him i would rather listen to someone telling me to try on the pitch rather than have a team captain that is trying to get into my wife! I think this proves that if he does go he is going for money simple as and i think we should all stop calling gerrard and carra until we know the truth and remember they have done alot more for the club then torres ever has. I.e Champions league final 2005 - probely greatest comeback ever lead by gerrard.

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29 Jan 2011 16:07:40
Liverpool Rumours
Just noticed after reading through the rumours that Torres has himself withdrawn his transfer request, now surley if this was so then LFC would have this published to quell the transfer rumours and let KK get on with his preperations for the Stoke game.
If he is going then a deal needs to be done so we can get a replacement, or is that why Camolli rushed of fron the Suerez deal?
All this about Adams coming, why?, do we need another midfielder, unless he is SG replacement.
Can we get some rumours about possible signings, n'zogbia, what is heppening there?
Kev

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29 Jan 2011 16:07:03
Liverpool Rumours
If torres goes hopefully not then lets put a bid in for defoe or hulk and defo. try to get arda turran asap he looks great and is supposed to be liverpool fan

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29 Jan 2011 16:07:00
NESV need to stand firm and tell Abramovich where he can lodge his cheque and tell Torres that if he doesn't want to play then he can sit in the stands for the duration of his contract. I know that this does not make economic sense but the message needs to be that Liverpool FC is bigger than any one player and will bow to nobody nor his agent.

They are businessmen and they know the money will help the cause of Liverpool FC. Fernando Torres sitting in the stands will not.

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29 Jan 2011 16:03:07
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Macca pls tell us more.we need u

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29 Jan 2011 16:03:04
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For the editor:

I'm quite confused with all the rumors going around at the minute, so i was hoping for your views on a few things

1. do you think Torres will leave?

2. do you think any of the following will sign for us this window? Honda, adam, aguero, n'zogbia, warnock, cahill, lakaklu or the schalke defender (i forget his name now)

Thanks

{Editor Note: 1. Yes! 2. I think we could get Honda out of those players.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:02:34
Ed - NESV may well be ready to do business for Torres, but do you have any idea what's Kenny's stand - is he going to let FT leave?

SingRed

{Editor Note: I'm sure Kenny would want Torres to stay but if he wants to go then what can Kenny do really.}

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29 Jan 2011 16:02:12
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Ed how is Gerrard and Carragher to blame for Nando wanting to leave? {ed's note - no one knows if they are, but there has been accusations of verbal bullying forcing players out of the club in the past. Especially foreigners, though a number of youngsters have said similar.}

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Wow, this seems like history repeating itself but from the other side of Europe. I know a little about Barcelona history coz of a basque gf I had. In early 2000s the basque players in the barca team would bully non basque speaking team mates. Apparently there were 2 camps in the club. Petit made it very obvious after being unable to settle there after his move in 2000. The president took hold of this, changed the manager who took total control and developed La Masia to bring in the Basque blood in the team and look where Barcelona are in 10 years. No one would have thought the same when Figo left them in 2000.

KK is a manager who will pull the b**** out of anyone if bullies push good foreign players out of the club. Simultaneously he is already breeding scouser blood (obvious by putting Spearing in the DERBY), This will make a good team bond and with the BOOT ROOM coming back, we know where the bullies will be.

GOOD TIMES ARE COMING AGAIN

ED, I have been optimistic thru out this Torres saga and had hoped u wuld post one of my previous posts either on banter or on rumors but none have come. So I hope atleast u put history combined with optimism here to show my fellow reds the light at the end of the tunnel

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29 Jan 2011 16:01:09
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For all those people getting angry at torres lets get some things straight. personally i love him can't imagine him in anything but a red shirt but. but! hes not liverpool through and through. hes athletico through and through. he left his favourite club and country to come to england to win trophies. he hasnt won any yet has he. hes frustrated . anyone would be. i understand and wish him luck but hope he stays but I for one will never turn on him. Fernando Torres Liverpool no.9! back me up ed

True Red

{Editor Note: He said a week ago he loved the club and wanted to remain here. He said he loves the City and that. Then he comes out with this three days before the end of the window and talks about verbal intimidation. So much for loving our club!}

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29 Jan 2011 16:00:39
29 Jan 2011 15:24:13
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Who else bought their lad a Torres shirt 4crimbo?
Wonder if I can get money back if he leaves a month after crimbo.

If he does go the club will loose big time on revenue from shirt sales!

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sorry to hear you just bought your kid a Torres shirt but the club won't loose any money through shirt sales! Players come and go there will always be another 'Hero' if that's what you call these overpaid premadonnas waiting in the wings, and if were going to lose fans that easily then good riddance no player will ever be bigger than the club! anyway hes not gone anywhere yet.

YNWA
Quince

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29 Jan 2011 15:57:23
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Ed can u shed anylight on people saying torres has withdrawn his request thanks

{Editor Note: Probably on Twitter, which means it isn't true.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:57:19
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I think we should let Torres go in the summer and bring in Defoe or pavelchenco (spelling) maybe even agbonglahor

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29 Jan 2011 15:57:03
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It's a real shame that we'll probably never get to see a Torres/ Suarez partnership. We'll never get anyone of quality in to replace him before Monday night too. So Pacheco, it's your time to shine!

-IamTheCosmos

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29 Jan 2011 15:56:53
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Ed- Any truth in these withdrawal rumours do you think?

{Editor Note: Withdrawl rumours?}

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29 Jan 2011 15:56:24
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Would be interesting to know Suarez's wage?
i wonder if the whole torres spitting his dummy out is due to this?
what we got nando and stevie on £100-£120k a week?(EDS? )
could be linked to also nando giving it the whole "im getting verbal" from inside, maybe stevie has had a word and he aint happy that he thinks he needs to be NO1 at the club?
2 strikers have done it already and increased their wage in the EPL, maybe nando thinks he can get away with it?
SAD case of affairs if this is what modern football has sunk to!
are agents regulated? should they be if not? well no doubt the next few days may answer all the above, FSG have the dosh, but are they likely to be held ransom? personally i think they will, nando will sign a new deal say £150k a week? allsorts of exit clauses inserted on manager and player related in/ outgoings.TBH he is worth that and more when he is 100% on the game, which we know he aint been.So nando, pick ya dummy up, respect the fans and staff that have nothing but the upmost respect for you and HELP us get back to where you want the TEAM to be, not just yourself.
OH P.S if you do go, make sure its over the water somewhere.

PIDDY.

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29 Jan 2011 15:55:28
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Should Torres go we should aim for either Lukaku or Hulk. Both are the types of player that would compliment suarez well. Prob looking at 20m ish for either.

You would hope that we bring in a winger at some point too. I know he gets some stick, but i like N'Zogbia, very dynamic.

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29 Jan 2011 15:55:09
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Images of Torres have been removed from adverts already on the LFC site, come on sergio fill the void

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29 Jan 2011 15:55:06
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TrigDiggler
Hope you are right mate.

Macca

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29 Jan 2011 15:54:47
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Loads of rumours flyin around the net now of a big announcement regarding torres between 7 and 8 tonight, he's either stayin or we have accepted a bid for him. dunno how reliable info is but its all over the place last 5 mins, hear anythin ed? ?

{Editor Note: Heard nothing.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:52:51
Huge shout out to NESV!
Top owners!
Hopefully you guys will have faith!
Couldn't take all that " get the cheque book out crap"
" pull the finger out "
Shankley and Paisley would not be proud!
Liverpool supporters we need to stick together!

Sell Torres today get the money and Rebuild our club not just one players confidence.

Torres has let us know where he stands

And it is not with us. It's with Chelsea

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29 Jan 2011 15:52:19
Bit down about torres but lets just trust kk and nesv!

now, just wanted to congratulate nesv and d commoli
we got suarez for 22.9m and after seeing newcastle turn down 23 mil for carrol, i think we got a great deal as i think he will prove to be a much better all rounf player esp under our great man kk

ynwa adam h

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29 Jan 2011 15:49:42
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Like a lot of fans I am gutted at FT's decision to hand in a transfer request. However, I may stand alone in believing that we should not allow him to force his way out of the club. I am not naive enough to think that you can keep an unhappy player at the club but we need to step back and look at the long term ramifications of conceding to his/ his agent's demands.

If we bend the knee to the Russian's cheque book what message do we send out to the footballing world? Do we meekly stand by and give Chavski carte blanche to illegally pillage clubs when their need arises? We have seen Alonso and Mascherano walk through the exit door - if Torres follows what message does that give Stevie G and Pepe? Are Liverpool going to be looked upon as a selling club which will make it even harder to attract top players to the club.

NESV need to stand firm and tell Abramovich where he can lodge his cheque and tell Torres that if he doesn't want to play then he can sit in the stands for the duration of his contract. I know that this does not make economic sense but the message needs to be that Liverpool FC is bigger than any one player and will bow to nobody nor his agent.

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29 Jan 2011 15:48:04
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Have to say I'm gutted Nando is leaving but no man is bigger than the club, if we could get in 3 quality players with the money we get from him we might be better off, only problem is there is only 3 days remaining.
Aroc

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29 Jan 2011 15:47:05
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Can i just say Torres will NEVER sign for real because of his ties with Athletico Madrid its chelsea, barca, city he will end up at hopefully barca

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29 Jan 2011 15:46:19
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I am 100% sure Suarez will sign, he was at Melwood earlier today for medical, saw the footage on SSN of him and Comolli. He will sign as fees and wages already agreed as most of us know, the only thing that was stopping the deal was agreeing fee with Ajax. If Torres left Suarez must know he will be our main man and goal machine.

My only concern is IF Torres left we will not have time to buy another striker. I do not, for this reason, see him leaving.

If he leaves in near future it would open the door to signing Lukaku, Hazard, Turan, Sakho and Matuidi type players as the £50-60 mil would cover a large chunk of ALL the fees for these.

Keeping the faith.

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29 Jan 2011 15:45:12
Watched the blue s**te piss all over chelsea they were very poor why would nando want to join that ageing team of has beens.cant get me head around it!

kdkop

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29 Jan 2011 15:44:00
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Ed what do you think of offering torres to inter for coutinho and santon plus about 10 miliion?

No ed this way we have a quality left back for the next 10 years and a quality winger and we would be getting 10 to 20 million aswell!
By the way ed i don't want to see torres go any more than you!
. . . . . .Reina. . . . .
kelly. .agger. .skertl. . santon
. . .meireles. .lucas. .gerrard
. . coutinho. .suarez. .cole

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29 Jan 2011 15:43:28
For me this would definately be a better way forward:
1. If Carragher and Gerrard have pushed Torred out they should be fined heavily, they love the club, but Torres has given a lot to Liverpool as well.
2. Torres should be offered a new contract.
3. Supporting players hsould be brought in to help Torres upfront, if we were winning and scoring neither Torres or Gerrard or Carragher would be moaning.
4. We should sell Gerrard in the summer, for those of you who doubt that this is correct watch games with and without Gerrard. Liverpool need to learn that he is juts one player, we play better without him. Too many times I see us going forward, with the perfect option to pass out wide but Gerrard ends up with it and shoots from distance, or we lose momentum. We pass the ball to Gerrard expecting him to do too much, we only realise that we can do better without doing so when he doesn't play.
5. 'New' Central midfield should be formed. Lucas is maturing, Meireles is starting to find form, all we need is Banega and either Hamsik or Gourcuff and we would have a stronger centre midfield.

Andy

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29 Jan 2011 15:42:24
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Llorente's buy-out clause has recently been increased from 35m to 63m euros.

)Tikmeister(

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29 Jan 2011 15:40:47
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29 Jan 2011 11:43:10
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Ed how is Gerrard and Carragher to blame for Nando wanting to leave? {ed's note - no one knows if they are, but there has been accusations of verbal bullying forcing players out of the club in the past. Especially foreigners, though a number of youngsters have said similar.}

OBSERVATION RATHER THAN RUMOUR
IF ITS TRUE THE SAID PLAYERS ABOVE ARE BULLYING FOREIGN PLAYERS AND ESPECIALLY KIDS, WE SHOULD GET SHOT OF THEM AS WE DNT WANT OUR CLUB TO PICK UP STUPID LABELS.OR A REPUTATION FOR BEING BULLIES. NO PLAYERS ARE GREATER THAN OUR CLUB. NONE AT AL
YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 15:40:36
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Hey ED, please do post this.

Now listen LFC fans, why do u people keep saying that Suarez can never fill Torres's boots, if u look at his goals to game ratio, it is even better than Fernando's, doesn't that show that he is more than a backup?? Also, if we let Torres go, we should look at 3 players, Pato, Neymar and Ganso.

I think that all three would be welcome here, i can actually see Ganso being here, Neymar is also easy if we can convince him that Chels**t are a team with over aged players and if we go Pato, then who gives a s**t about Torres, given some time to settle, i think Pato can do what Torres has done so far in just 1 season. .
But that's what i think. . .

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29 Jan 2011 15:40:14
NOW GET ON THIS. . . . IT GOES LIKE THIS. . His armband proved he was a red, Suarez, Suarez, Youll never walk alone it said Suarez, Suarez, He bought it off a lad from spain tall & blond forgotten his name LUIS SUAREZ Liverpools Number 9. . Charlie from old swan.

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29 Jan 2011 15:40:14
I can't believe people are saying get rid of Carra and stevie and keep Torres WTF guys they would do anything for this club even when they've retired they will still be working as coaching etc Torres came to Liverpool as a quick buck don't forget he's a foreigner and was never gonna end his career here this season he's just been a sulking tw@t not injured also surprise he hits abit of form as the transfer window opens (shock) this season this guy has let hodgson down and even more so the fans. What do you think about this ed?please post

{Editor Note: I don't like Gerrard one bit. Off the field he is not a nice person at all and he has too much influence. I wouldn't shed tears if he left.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:39:54
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Ed what do you think of offering torres to inter for coutinho and santon plus about 10 miliion?

{Editor Note: Joking right?}
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I think this guy is an Inter fan. I'd take the two, 30 million and an esspresso to go.

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29 Jan 2011 15:39:46
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29 Jan 2011 14:51:59
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I think we could be in real trouble. .

Let's remember, Suarez is still not officially an LFC player yet. He is yet to complete a medical and agree personal terms.

What if he turns around and says he doesn't want to join us if Torres leaves.

Then that would leave us with no Torres or Suarez.

I know this is worst case scenario but it could happen!
Ah was thinking about that last night buddy. But he has agreed personal terms last night arrived in Liverpool today having his medical and being shown around same as raul.
Matthew Thompson

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29 Jan 2011 15:38:12
Ed, if Torres doesn't get his way do you think he may refuse to play?

{Editor Note: I would hope he doesn't stoop to that level.}

Well we knocked back the bid from Chelsea and he went and put a written transfer request in with 72 hours to go before the end of the window.
He has defo met with Chelsea officials before all of this.
And now he is keeping a low profile.

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29 Jan 2011 15:38:09
Re. Im afraid the only way to win the league in the future is to buy it. ie man city, chelsea, united(albeit steadily over the seasons) until the kuwaits buy them . Liverpool will never win it until they have owners who can buy players at any cost like the way the other teams can. .Just my opinion in the way i think the EPL is heading. .
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don't know where you've been lately mate but have you not heard of the financial fair play system coming in within the next 3 years, so no-one will be buying the league anymore.
huddz red

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29 Jan 2011 15:37:16
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Personally if chelsea offer 45-50 mil and we could get a new replacement in for him in time i would gladly sell torres because torres is being a little b***h about it
1. lied to fans by saying he would never play for another club
2. lied to fans again by saying he loves the club and would commit to the club
3. poor attitude all season hasnt scored enough
And most IMPORTANT
4. DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR OUR BELOVED CLUB! ! ! and NO ONE IS BIGGER THAN OUR CLUB! ! !
Dont get me wrong i was one of his biggest fans read his book this summer really thought he loved lfc guess i was wrong
Personally i would love Turan and Aguero 2 great players not only that they support Liverpool and would WANT to play for us
YNWA! ! ! !

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29 Jan 2011 15:36:54
Personally if we sell Torres to Chelsea I'll be gutted, if we do we should demand min 50M or 45M plus Anelka/ Sturridge, but I don't want a pannic buy to make up the numbers, I'd personally prefer to wait till summer for "a replacement" and in preferance would prefer Torres to stay till summer too.
As we all know Torres is quality but yeah if his heart is not in it and his head turned there is not much we can do about it, however much us fans have loved him being our #9/ thought he'd be a LFC legend/ show him support during some lack luster performancee.

Also to those saying we lack strikers we have a few, not super top quality but more than enougth to see us till the end of the season N'gog, Kuyt, Jovanavic, Suarez?, Pacheco, Suso not proven Torres quality but certainley will have more hunger and willing to prove and pull on the red jersey and put in a shift then Fernado of late.

We are LFC, there was always gonna be a pre and post Torres era as there will be with every player who is privaledged to play for the greatest club in the world.
I'm just dissapointed that he feels that now is the time to leave (by all media accounts) cause in his heart of hearts I assume he realises it is defo not the right time, I thank him for his comitment in the past and the good times but Nando you'll be kicking yourself in years to come, I'm looking forward to Suarez banging a couple in down Stamford bridge against Chelsea, next weekend.
Long live LFC

RichOfTheHill

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29 Jan 2011 15:36:38
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Huge shout out to NESV!
Top owners!
Hopefully you guys will have faith!
Couldn't take all that " get the cheque book out crap"
" pull the finger out "
Shankley and Paisley would not be proud!
Liverpool supporters we need to stick together!

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29 Jan 2011 15:35:54
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I like Torres as a player, however he has disappointed me this year. Every player goes through a bad spell, but in Torres' case there is more to it. I believe he has wanted out from day one of the season. His body language was negative from day one and if you roll back the tape of the season, you can see how Torres has selfishly cost Liverpool a few points. A striker is paid to score goals and often encouraged to be selfish, but when a team mate is in a position to score a sitter, you pass it to him. Meireles in his first game (Birmingham I think) was wide open in the box and screaming for the ball in the last minutes of the game but never got it. We drew that game on the road. There are other situations where he hit the goalie or the post when others (Maxi a few times, Meireles again not too long ago) would have had tap ins. As I said, I think the man has been brilliant for us; but this could be a blessing in disguise. Players like Torres are rarely sold in their prime, his value will probably never be higher. Also, this season has been relatively quiet for him with no CL, no EuroL, Carling Cup, next to no FA Cup or international games. If he goes to a top team and starts playing every three days, he might get injured again. If we get enough money to buy two or three quality players then we should send him away and wish him luck. Before this season, he was all LFC and he deserves our respect for that.


Canadian Fan

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29 Jan 2011 15:34:58
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Looking at the Torres situation and the bigger picture. . if he does go, how will Reina and the likes react? If Torres wants to go, then good luck to him, he hasn't really been up for it for a while now, we'll bounce back, I do however worry about the knock on effect!

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29 Jan 2011 15:34:20
29 Jan 2011 14:04:36
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Here is the TRUTH for all you Scouse hating plastic fans. The ONLY players who REALLY care about LFC are the ones from Liverpool FACT. All the others are here for one thing and one thing only. . .MONEY! Your proof if proof was needed the traitor El Nino who bleated on and on about how much he loved the club. .yeah right you no good traitor. . .Jog on and take the Russian Mafia money. I'd have 11 proud SCOUSERS who bleed red ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!
RED77

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Now is it just me or am I misinformed but didn't Torres take a pay cut to join?

Anyway, doesn't Suarez operate on the right of an attacking 3 or is he a central figure?
Because if FT goes we'll need that out and out striker.

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29 Jan 2011 15:33:21
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Why is every1 panicking. Torres is not going anywhere until the summer. if he does then he does, like i said yesterday if he goes king kenny will buy 2/ 3 decent players with the money. why keep someone who doesn't want to be here.do you agree ed/ macca/ blair mayne.
huddz red

{Editor Note: Agreed.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:33:05
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Theres a lot of twitter activity in last few minutes that KK and SG are in discussions with Nando, and they are hoping he will change his mind?


Tel1949

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29 Jan 2011 15:32:21
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Some very interesting odds on what Torres will do are currently on offer from the bookies. Sky bet have him at 1/ 5 to be a Chelsea player in the next couple of days. However Stan James are currently 8/ 13 that he stays (6/ 5 he goes. What crap odds then at Skybet) and Betfair 4/ 7 he stays (about 6/ 5 he goes). This means Skybet are clueless (as per usual) and the general concensus is that he will stay. In addition the price on Betfair for him to stay is being backed and the price shortening.
I believe Torres will stay.

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29 Jan 2011 15:32:13
Akthough I would dearly love Nando to stay, think about this. Fowler left LFC (Not His Choice) and was not the same player. Owen left LFC (Moneygrabber England Gloryhunter) was not the same player, both in their twenties. Not saying Nando will suddenly become a bad player, but I think those 1st two seasons he was here were his best, and we had them. So if a significant offer comes in, we should take it.

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29 Jan 2011 15:31:47
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I believe that they are looking at Benzema as his replacement, but not until the summer.

I believe that if Chelsea do not offer 50 mil now, then he will stay till the summer.

Keep youre eyes out for a couple more signings. .

Come on Chelsea put your money where your mouth offer £50M & take him.

The sooner the better for Liverpool Football Club

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29 Jan 2011 15:30:56
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Hearing a few people's concerns over replacing torres with aguero due to lack of height. so? we don't play the long ball game anymore, its all 'ball on deck' football, so why would we need a tall cf? don't say, 'for getting the head onto crosses and set-pieces', what height is kuyt? hes got his head on a few crosses before. aguero and suarez would be one of the most dangerous strike partnerships in the history of the game. 2 tricky little bulldogs, enough to frighten any defense in europe and beyond imo. aguero for 35m-40m with around 15m or so for a winger would do me. so if torres is definitely going, stop arsing about and get it sorted so we can get someone in before monday

ryan c belfast ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 15:30:16
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The reality is that any deal for Torres WILL include a player in part-ex as time is too short to find another decent striker that's ready and available for transfer.

Babel gone
Jovanovic going?
Torres going?

Coming In Suarez (new number 7)
£40-£50m plus. . .
WHO?

Daniel Sturridge if Chelski
Benzema if Real Madrid
Adam Johnson if Manc s**tty

No other club/ players part-ex spring to mind

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29 Jan 2011 15:29:52
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I believe that they are looking at Benzema as his replacement, but not until the summer.

I believe that if Chelsea do not offer 50 mil now, then he will stay till the summer.

Keep youre eyes out for a couple more signings. .

Macca

{Editor Note: Wonder if there is any chance that he'll change his mind? And in regards to signings, this window?

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Macca just spoke and after his run of spot on information, his latest is 5-3 in the believe / unbelieve catagory.
There are some sick puppies out there.

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29 Jan 2011 15:29:22
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If torres wants to get out, then sell him fr 50-60 mil, get aguero hulk and honda in? what u think eds?

{Editor Note: I think £50m is what we want, and a deal will be done if Chelsea offer that. We could get someone like Aguero with that, and perhaps Honda also.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:28:37
Can everyone tell me why everyone is so sure torres is going to leave remeber we got the king in charge and i reckon hell just say if you wanted the move you should have requested it early

Or just put him in a room with Carra for 5 mins.

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29 Jan 2011 15:28:15
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If torres goes it will be a war between chelsea and city. . ie the highest bidder. . . as for the carra & gerrard rumour they had a fall out is quite funny as they were present for a photo shoot with the new away kits as well as kuyt and reina. but if torres does go EXEPT A BID FOR CARROL spurs have already bid 23/ 25mil

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29 Jan 2011 15:27:54
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A new dawn has really began at Anfield with NESV. The signs are good so far:

- Stuck by Roy as long as they possibly could and sacked him in a gracious manner
- Have attempted to seriously engaged with the fans and to give them a say in the way the club is run
- Hired both King Kenny and Steve Clark, and the effects have been almost immediate
- Did not pay over the odds for any player so far and bargained hard for Suarez, eventually getting their man
- Conducted their negotiations under the table (Liverpool way)

Now they have to show that this club is bigger than any player and do not let Torres go and when they do let him go, they have to do so under their own terms.

I think that by now is clear that NESV won't be held to ransom while trying to get a new player (as the Suarez saga has revealed), now it is time to get tough and make clear that players will only be allowed to leave under the club's terms. I would suggest that either the Chavs upper that offer quite a bit (I'd say 60M, because Torres has a release clause of 50M, but that is in the summer, so, logically, if they want him now they should pay more) or Torres stay and that is the end of it.

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29 Jan 2011 15:24:31
Liverpool Rumours
Really don't mind if fernando go's if he doesn't have the pride to where the shirt we don't want him here! 40 mill + anelka i believe would be a great bit of business using the 40 mill to get ashley young and sum1 else

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29 Jan 2011 15:24:29
Liverpool Rumours
I'm an Aussie and just read the Kewell rumours.

Might be worth a gamble at a very very cheap price.

He's in decent form and has played well in the Asian cup.

Has also started well in the final (only 25 minutes in)

When he was with us originally he could have been a star if it wasn't for the injuries

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29 Jan 2011 15:24:27
Liverpool Rumours
Who is Macca, and what is his connection to the club?

Not Steve MacManaman, surely?

{Editor Note: Not Steve MacManaman, well I hope not anyway!!}

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29 Jan 2011 15:24:13
Liverpool Rumours
Who else bought their lad a Torres shirt 4crimbo?
Wonder if I can get money back if he leaves a month after crimbo.

If he does go the club will loose big time on revenue from shirt sales!

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29 Jan 2011 15:22:43
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, if Torres doesn't get his way do you think he may refuse to play?

{Editor Note: I would hope he doesn't stoop to that level.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:21:08
Liverpool Rumours
Does anyone wish that Stan Collymore was still playing! Would be great for us right now.

And also ed is there any truth in the rumour I heard about talks with Hulk from Porto?

Cheers
TJ

{Editor Note: Many clubs are probably looking at Hulk.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:19:45
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, do you think the silence from Torres is a definate sign that he wants out or do you think he's been told to stay out of the press until lfc make an official statement about him wanting to leave? With the Rooney and Tevez situations they both came out themselves and said they wanted out, with his comments two weeks ago, the signing or Suarez and appointment of KK it just doesn't add up. Cheers mate. {ed's note - he definitely wants out, he is probably just keeping his head down and letting his agent deal with it.}Of course he wants out that's not the liverpool way and he knows that

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29 Jan 2011 15:19:25
I know i'm probably clutching at straws here, but does it not mean anything that Torres put his transfer request in BEFORE we agreed a deal for Suarez?
This is the one thing i'm going to cling on to, and if anyone can prove that he still wants to go, to be honest i'm going to pretend i didn't hear it. . .

ps. How glad am i that i didn't promise to swallow my own testicles if the Torres story was true, which i very nearly said.
Duckula

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29 Jan 2011 15:19:17
Liverpool Rumours
Im afraid the only way to win the league in the future is to buy it. ie man city, chelsea, united(albeit steadily over the seasons) until the kuwaits buy them . Liverpool will never win it until they have owners who can buy players at any cost like the way the other teams can. .Just my opinion in the way i think the EPL is heading. .

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29 Jan 2011 15:18:53
Liverpool Rumours
BREAKING NEWS
Just been told by a reliable source inside the club that Liverpool are resigned to losing torres, and have just lodged a bid for an unnamed striker, and an improved bid for charlie adam
who do you think it is ed?

{Editor Note: I'd be more worried about whether you are telling the truth or not.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:18:49
Liverpool Rumours
People are mentioning carlton cole as a replacement for torres he has played over 100 premier league games n only last month scored two in a game for the first time ever , i don't think he will suphice

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29 Jan 2011 15:18:45
Liverpool Rumours
There are too many crying prima donnas in footy now. Torres was more than happy to sign the contract that was put infront of him now things ain't going as we would all like he wants to jump ship. I think henry and the board should do what other clubs have failed to do with their crying gets, tell him tough s**t your going nowhere and that he will honour his contract. Ok he might sulk but he has done that all season anyway he won't sulk forever coz if his form drops nobody else will want him and ultimately he may get dropped from Spain squad!
It's time all clubs stood upto these overpaid prima donnas who think throwing a tantrum will get them there own way!

Maybe if we hang onto him for another year we could bring Pacheco and suso through to replace him from within the club then sell the crying get to highest bidder. However I don't think we should sell to any of our imediate rivals I would prefer he was sold abroad preferably real Madrid that would p him off being an atletico.

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29 Jan 2011 15:18:05
Deano95

Like all Reds my head is about to explode with all the Torres business

would most fans accept Torres getting a new and improved contract ?

my opinion would be no , just what has happened to turn his head over

the past couple of weeks, I could of understood him wanting to leave

when Hicks & Gillett were the owners, i could also understand him not

being happy with Roy Hodgsons tactics and style of play.

but we were all led to belive he was delighted with Kenny being the manager,

we could see with his recent performances he was getting his game back and

and the real Torres was starting to play again.

Suarez was signed ( still hasn't yet ) to play along side or behind him

which i thought would be a dream pairing and would of panicked most defences

in the premier league.so here we are again back in the Sh*t what a crap season this

has turned out to be.

you couldn't make this up

1 rafa leaves ( sacked ) in the summer

2 Kenny states he wants the job

3 purslow decides to give it to Hodgson maybe he was manager of the year but fulham

couldn't win away from home. which was one of Liverpools biggest promblems that season

4 Liverpool fc all over the FRONT pages of the tabloids and broadsheets in a courtroom

battle concerning the ownership of the club

5 we get new owners but to late to buy anyone

6 Hodgson is out of his depth at the club and tells everyone "we are in a relegation battle"

7 Nesv do the right thing sack Hodgson and bring kenny in

8 Fans delighted The King is back results and performances look better up to 7th in the

league highest postion all season smiles back on kopites faces

9 suarez transfer fee agreed (happy days)


10 Torres transfer request (kick in the Ba**ls
sorry about the rant ed like everyone else just totally p****d off with it all

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29 Jan 2011 15:17:58
Liverpool Rumours
Llorente, N, Zogbia and a good CB would do for me.

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29 Jan 2011 15:16:02
Ed? Do you think his reputation has suffered over this?

{editor: There is no doubt about it. He had a special bond with our fans and that has taken a huge knock.}

Thanks for the response Ed. More specifically though, is his reputation damaged across football the world generally. Listening to some pundits, they seem surprised, even shocked at his behaviour (ie, handing in a transfer request so late in the window)

)Tikmeister(

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29 Jan 2011 15:15:28
Liverpool Rumours
Ed if torres goes do you think a replacement will be bought this window or suarez will play there?

{Editor Note: Suarez will probably be used to replace him.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:12:55
Liverpool Rumours
Torres maybe goin chelsea 50m + sturridge as they won't want to wait til summer as there will be a bidding war and chelsea will loose.

Adam in 7.5m
Sturidge maybe free
C.cole 8m
A young 16m

I personally would of liked iker munanin buh ohh well . .

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29 Jan 2011 15:12:46
Liverpool Rumours
I feel a bit gutted that hes going but my oh my with the money we could get for him could see liverpool transformed. the king could get his long sought after turan, we wrap up honda and adam. and then a left back as well. maybe taiwo on a pre contract. then let the new guys gel together from now til the end of the season (dont have much to play for now anyway except europe places) , then get rid of the rest of the dead wood in the squad thus generating more money for the summer.the king goes full time in the hot seat, we have a good pre season and smash our way through the league next season. turan wants to play for us, honda is awesome anyway plus we need a talented freekick taker. adam can settle into his alonso type role, spraying balls around the park. torres walks into an ageing squad and maybe buys himself a title. we however will be building a dynasty set for future domination. and then my fellow reds

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29 Jan 2011 15:12:44
Liverpool Rumours
Just a question. Would people prefer to have Gerrard and no Torres or Torres and no Gerrard?

BEL/ AGREE - Gerrard no Torres
UNBEL/ DISAGREE - Torres no Gerrard

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29 Jan 2011 15:11:12
Liverpool Rumours
Can everyone tell me why everyone is so sure torres is going to leave remeber we got the king in charge and i reckon hell just say if you wanted the move you should have requested it early so we had chance to fill your boots you blonde locked hypocrit i don't reckon he has any other option but to dig his heels in and just say NO unless they offer a ridiculas amount of money. . i do reckon there has been summit dodgy goin on this munf wif nandos agent and the sneaky russian i bet the agent is goin to get a nice wage packet along wif nandos super pay up every week have i heard hell be the best paid player in the world? or am i dreaming summit

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29 Jan 2011 15:10:47
Liverpool Rumours
Watched the Everton game today hoping for the Chelski bunch to be knocked out of the cup and change Torres' mind - sadly didn't happen

The other intersting point was Daniel Sturridge wasn't even on the bench, is this a sig or is he injured Ed?

{Editor Note: Don't know mate.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:08:50
The only players i can see coming in now are adam and honda that's it until the summer !
hopefully our nando decides to stay !
your thoughts ed ?

Adam O'K ;)

{Editor Note: Would be delighted with Honda, happy with Adam.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:08:33
Liverpool Rumours
Ed do you think Aguero will want to come if we don't have Torres?

And what is your view on the Torres situation. Is he doing a Rooney? We he be made to stay under contract (liverpool have rejected the request and said he is not for sale)? And if he does stay do you think there will be a fan backlash? I definetley up for it. . . .

{Editor Note: I'd imagine so mate. If a player wants to come to the club for one player only then I wouldn't want him. And I think there's more to it than him just wanting to leave the club.}

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29 Jan 2011 15:08:24
Liverpool Rumours
Its just my opinion, but if Torres wants to leave then the club should let him go, Torres has been putting in performances that suggest he is completely uninterested in playing for the club.

There has been a flling out with Steven Gerrard, I don't know when it was or even what it was about, but you could tell in their body language, when Gerrard scored early on in the season I remember clearly, Tirres had crossed the ball for SG to head home, but Torres blanked the celebrations 100%!

Lets face it, he hasn't been the same player for a long time, and with the money we could buy two or three world class additions that could really spark the revival.

The news about a £50m release clause kicking in during summer is interesting, if he's worth £50m in the summer then he's worth more now, values decrease as the contracts reduce. So Chelski or AbuDabu City must raise their offers; £60m plus

Its not the end fellow reds, its the beginning of a new era, with or without Torres

YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 15:06:23
I think its a bit rubbish, he's left it so late, its only from chelsw**ks putting in a offer to get him that got his attention(must be already thinking of leaving tho). man city or chels. torres vs liverpool at anfield. . wats the fan response. . negetive or positive?

and didn't we buy a quality striker to partner torres as babel has just left. . so down a striker . . again?! so wat if suarez gets injured and ngog has to play loan striker (god forbid). . back down to relegation battles again. just as we start to pick up momentum in the season.

its too late to get any quality replacements in. . look how long suarez took. . tho if we throw a crazy sum of money for a desperate attempt. who knows. the only way it can be done is with a cash + player. sturridge is below par, anelka was great but past it and i couldnt imagine drogba in a red jersey. (shudders)

scratching my head as im sure most of you are.

wat do u make of all this eds or anyone else?

aussie pool

go aus in asian final against japen. (watching honda play atm, hoping he signs after full time ha.)

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29 Jan 2011 15:05:46
Liverpool Rumours
Hopefully man city will come in with a bid for torres , id prefer him to go there , we could get £25m plus players ( such as adam johnson , michar richards , james milner )

Adam johnson left , milner on the right , plus £25m?

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29 Jan 2011 15:04:49
Hi Eds, Just a thought on the Torres situation!
It maybe because of Carra and Stevie having a go, but come on the way he has played this season can anybody blame them, Carra basically slagged him off to the cameras for not trying earlier in the season. Definately the right time for him to go and for us to rebuild with some quality additions, if we can get more goalscorers all over the park it makes us harder to defend against! Lets sting the Blue Mancs of Chelski and go on a spending spree! Thanks Nino and farewell with my best wishes! !

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29 Jan 2011 15:03:44
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 14:51:59
Liverpool Rumours
I think we could be in real trouble. .

Let's remember, Suarez is still not officially an LFC player yet. He is yet to complete a medical and agree personal terms.

What if he turns around and says he doesn't want to join us if Torres leaves.

Then that would leave us with no Torres or Suarez.

I know this is worst case scenario but it could happen!

- - - - - - - -

No it couldn't, Suarez agreed terms yesterday. The worst case scenario is that Suarez has been sniffing the fairy dust for the past three years, is on illegal steroids and is actually a woman.

It should be done tonight.

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29 Jan 2011 14:57:25
Liverpool Rumours
Let Torres go I say. He ain't played for the shirt this season. £50m = goodbye.

Replacement names mentioned: hulk, aguerro, llorente etc.

Personally I'd have a punt on Neymar. And enough money left over for Honda and Turan. Sweet!

Red Mosquito

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29 Jan 2011 14:56:08
Liverpool Rumours
Would you let torres go if we got 45 mil and get benzema/ hulk and mata/ turan in if its possible by monday

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29 Jan 2011 14:55:24
Liverpool Rumours
Fair point i suppose he doesn't really take players with him though does he. He didn't take any chelsea players with him either to inter or Real but i take on your point cheers mate. {ed's note - he took Carvalho and Deco to Chelsea, then took Carvalho on to Madrid.}

Touche my friend touche, :) He only took them cause there Portuguese do the racist :) only messing mate, would love aguero aswel i seen you on about him. the man destroyed Barcelona single handedly last Season.

Would love to see him in red, Has the potential to be even more of a legend to lfc fans if he came

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29 Jan 2011 14:53:34
Liverpool Rumours
Ed if torres goes in this window, do u honestly believe he will be replaced with a top striker in t5his window? aguero is on £219,000 a week in madrid. i would not pay him that, it would cause sh!t in the dressing room wit him on that money, good player but not worth that wage, what do u think ed?


jay b

{editor: I would prefer Llorente.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:53:23
Torres on January 9th 2011:

"More than ever, we need to stick together, "

"I am professional and I always fulfil my deals."

"We need to add more points, win matches and improve our standing in the table. That is our challenge and I demand the total help of our supporters in doing that."

Tony Barratt Tweeted something very apt this morning:

"Wonder how Torres is feeling this morning. Image in tatters. Reputation destroyed. Needed better advice & didn't get it."

Ed? Do you think his reputation has suffered over this?

{editor: There is no doubt about it. He had a special bond with our fans and that has taken a huge knock.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:53:07
A lot of names have been put forward to possibly replace nando and I would be happy with most of them, except E'to and Carroll, but nobody has mentioned a player that I really like the look of namely, Lucas Barrios I think he could be a real option. Would also like us to try for Lovren at centre half what do you think ed's?

{editor: Llorente for me.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:52:52
To all the doom merchants. Please remember, we won more with Cisse, Baros and Crouch than we ever did with Torres. It's a team game, Kenny will sort us out. cisse was class

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29 Jan 2011 14:52:26
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed wat is your opinion on the torres front?? ?? personally i believe that chelski have tapped him up and the F.A should look into it and punish the club heavily. well on the other note if he wants out let him go, i would demand 45m plus anelka and not a penny less or 60m straight cash but the problem we face is finding someone to tale his place and settle in straight away, while suarez is finding his feet would love to have llorente and aguero but aguero is a similar player to suarez and we would have no height up front, so personally it would have to be llorente for me but it would be in the summer. maybe someone like davis or elmander for the short term. or maybe gomes or another german striker as they all seem to be physically strong and more adapted to life in EPL

jan out

TORRES-45M PLUS ANELKA(if not anelka then straight cash)
TORRES-60M

JAN INS

DAVIS/ ELMANDER-6M-7M
HONDA-12M
DIARRA-12M
TAIWO-5M(only if we get no p-ex)
HAZZARD-22M

LINE UP

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . .

KELLY. . . . .AGGER. . . . . WILSON. . . JOHNSON.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . .DIARRA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . GERRARD. . . . . . MEIRELES. . . . . . . . .

. . . . . .HAZZARD. . .SUAREZ. . . HONDA. . . . . .

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29 Jan 2011 14:52:19
Keep torres, sell gerrard, bring in hamsik ?

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29 Jan 2011 14:51:17
Liverpool Rumours
Ed do you rekon Aguero will come if we don't have Torres?

{Editor's Note: nope.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:49:41
Liverpool Rumours
Gerrard and Carra's verbal attack was about his Hair cut and that he shouldn't have cut it and he's been s88t since he went dark and carra told him to go blonde and his miss new a good hairdresser in town!
he was unhappy and said it was they were suggesting he was gay! This is the Truth

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29 Jan 2011 14:48:59
I think if torres is to go we should look at oscar cardozo turan and honda I think the 50 million would definitely cover those 3 players. cardozo would be able to hold the ball up and get flick ons for suarez to feed off with the crosses and deadball deliveries that turan honda gerrard and meireles (spelling) could provide plus he's a proven goalscorer ?

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29 Jan 2011 14:48:37
I believe Torres would stay and he probably would have asked for transfer request, before SUarez's deal got over. But what makes me a bit nervous, is that it hasn't been officially anounce by L:iverpool that Torres has change his mind and would stay. Love you, El_Nino and hope you stay here for long. .

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29 Jan 2011 14:47:48
Whats our chances of signing honda ed?
Adam O'K ;)

{Editor's Note: Getting slimmer every hour.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:47:12
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 13:33:27Liverpool RumoursHow many games do you think it will take suarez do score hs first liverpool goal? please comment :)

if hes available for stoke game im sticking a 10er on him to score 2 goals. he just seems like hes going to score lots whatever club he is at and he will be out to justify his rather bulky transfer fee imo.

ryan c belfast ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 14:46:53
Liverpool Rumours
To all the doom merchants. Please remember, we won more with Cisse, Baros and Crouch than we ever did with Torres. It's a team game, Kenny will sort us out.

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29 Jan 2011 14:46:42

what ya think of lavezzi from Napoli seems like a good strong player reminds me of tevez do you think he would be good in the epl, I also don't expect torres to leave just my gut feeling ?

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29 Jan 2011 14:46:30
Liverpool Rumours
Torres out = Caroll in as the new toshack and keegan. big and small. take the hits and score the goals. perfect combo!

Big gazza

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29 Jan 2011 14:44:51
Liverpool Rumours
It is probably going to be d-day on monday , let us all get together and support KK who I am sure is going through a very testing couple of days it is he that we have to feel sorry for, he is trying to juggle by keeping the fans happy and the hard to understand torres LET US ALL SEND OUR RESPECTS AND SUPPORT TO KK AND LET HIM KNOW WE ARE THE LFC FANS AND NO OTHER FANS I KNOW HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH WITH THEIR CLUB AS US


THIS IS ANFIELD

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29 Jan 2011 14:44:41
Liverpool Rumours
I am surprised that people have already started to sum up a number of Torres's replacements. Though none of the deal has been settled and Torres's request has been rejected. I believe, he is not a player, who would go out on a strike to make switch and I believe, he is staying here. Its another transfer saga and comparatively simple to that one of Rooney's one. I hope Torres turns his mind and stay with us. Because he is probably irreplacable, but If he decides to leave, then we probably have no option but to let him go. . YNWA.

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29 Jan 2011 14:44:15
Liverpool Rumours
If these stories are true about torres, hes a bit of a hock. waiting until the end of the window to ask for a transfer is pretty low by anyone's standards. only a couple of days to go


I think your totally wrong, we don't know what he has been promised from roy and now kenny and fsg/ nesv. We have had all transfer window to sign players and all we have so far is a bid accepted for suarez. he knows what we all do. The current squad would not compete for titles. more is needed than one striker. . why should we all have to wait this long for new players?

Think about it this way, if Torres is fed up of the current squad staus and has asked to leave do you think he would of done that if we had supposed world class players coming to us in this window? its not as if its the first day and its right i want to leave, he has stayed to see if more than one class player is signed and has now decided he wants to leave. He has given the club all window and for a 1 signing return in suarez.

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29 Jan 2011 14:43:49
Liverpool Rumours
First time poster from sa.luv the site ed. Wud like to hear your thoughts on a possible deal from either chelski or city where we demand of there best players in return. Imaigne a.johnson+milner and cash? Both young , english, big talents.shud fit the nesv bill. Your thoughts

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29 Jan 2011 14:41:45
Liverpool Rumours
Transfer won't go through today, transfers can only go through on working days, remember !

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29 Jan 2011 14:41:24
Liverpool Rumours
Torres won't leave. trust me. It's just a misunderstanding, he will stay and not only till summer. There's more to come from him.

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29 Jan 2011 14:40:57
Liverpool Rumours
"Fair point i suppose he doesn't really take players with him though does he. He didn't take any chelsea players with him either to inter or Real but i take on your point cheers mate. {ed's note - he took Carvalho and Deco to Chelsea, then took Carvalho on to Madrid.}"

Scolari signed Deco for Chelsea, but he definitely wanted Lampard at Inter.

{Editor's Note: Ferreira was the second player.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:40:22
Good Site.

This Torres thing stinks bad! My strong opinion is things happening behind the scene.

I would have no doubt that Fernando has spoken to Benitez on his opinions. He would have more idea of the insides at Liverpool and the way things had worked althoug in th past.

My assumption is Benitez approached by Chelsea to takeover from Ancelloti if things get worse and he has accepted he would be interested he has most likely informed them of Torres and to make the bid and at the same time told Torres he will be heading towards Stamford Bridge soon after and to move as they have the money to move forward immediately unlike Liverpool! So to link up again.

Makes sense if read between the lines as to what has been happening lately. Watch this space!

Taffy

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29 Jan 2011 14:39:54
Liverpool Rumours
If a player plus cash deal is on the cards with Chelsea then I'd much rather that Malouda is the one involved. He's been excellent at times for them lately, showing real pace and attacking ability, and would solve our problem on the left. With the money get Llorente and you'd have a deadly front 3. .

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29 Jan 2011 14:37:15
Liverpool Rumours
If nando wants 2 leave just let him go but only after getting a replacement, think HUNTELAAR would b good.
No player is bigger than the club.
YNWA.

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29 Jan 2011 14:37:03
Liverpool Rumours
Charlie Adam's father:

"Blackpool are such a cheap-skate club, " he said.

"I don't even think this is about money. It's because Charlie took them to a tribunal over the bonus they owed him.
"This is their pay-back. They are saying 'you won't make anything out of this, we have got you under contract'.

"Liverpool's offer is 13 times what Blackpool paid for Charles. And they are turning it down? They have been more than compensated for him already.

"Mr Oyston has got to realise it is somebody's life and future that he is dealing with here. I think it is petty. This should be a time for common sense to prevail."


(Now Ed, do you think there's any possibility left of us signing Adam? We're missing out on players who really want to play for Liverpool.)

{Editor's Note: A chance, yes.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:36:12
Liverpool Rumours

Should we have heard about Suarez yet? Getting worried he's changed his mind!

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29 Jan 2011 14:35:51
Liverpool Rumours
If he wants to go then goodbye but not good luck. This is LFC no player is bigger than the club and never will be. Before he goes though ask him where was Michael owen in Istanbul.

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29 Jan 2011 14:35:16
Liverpool Rumours
The guy with the Suarez song quality, everyone don't worry there will be life without Torres if we sold him and built a better squad it's for the best and of the day do u want someone who doesn't want to play for you, we the fans would never turn our backs on the club. We've not won anything with him even when we had Alonso masch he's always needed a partner now we buy one I think would be perfect for him he wants to jump ship so be it then.

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29 Jan 2011 14:34:55
Liverpool Rumours
A few months ago i made a comment on here that i think Torres should go he was a waste of space and didn't deserve to wear the red shirt and got slated for doing so.
He came out in the press and said if he had a partner and the owners invested in the squad he would happily stay and see out his contract
so eds.
1. Do you think the owners called his bluff and its back fired on him not thinking they would put up the money
2. Do you think if the club offered him £180k a week he would stay (like Rooney)
3. and is their anything that suggest Steven and Jamie have anything to do with any of this

ramythered

great site keep up the fantastic work. .

I agree totally with Ramythered about Torres and the last 6 months especially. Last match I was at was against Newcastle at St James' Park and I left there outraged with his performance. It's only been these last few matches under KK that he has began to show something but after this transfer request it looks like he played that way to get a move.

I hope to the big lad in the sky that Man City come in with an extreme offer. Nothin would please me more than getting £60million + for a man that only turns up to play in half the matches we play.

Obviously it would have to happen today as we need as much time to get in a few other replacements.

I would love to see Turan and Honda come in no matter the outcome of the torres saga but if he ends up going I hope Liverpool have got someone in line to start negotiating straight away.

If the move for torres doesn't go through, there'll be no forgive and forget like there was at united with rooney. torres will never be forgiven for turning on this club at a time like this

IrishRed

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29 Jan 2011 14:34:49
Liverpool Rumours
I like most are probably still dismayed on what has occured over the last 24 hours.
Has SG and JC upset him or was the verbal slandering caused by the new owners, who knows?

One thing is we should sell now, commoli and Co must have had other plans affoot even for the summer so let the auction begin.
My preferance would be to see city offer us 2 players plus 40 mill, Michael Johnson who we were looking a year or so ago and prehaps Micah richards.
They wil probably offer us SWP.

Ed's any updates on the very scare real information we know?

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29 Jan 2011 14:34:17
Do you think we will sign a striker in this window except for suarez ed? ?
Adam O'K ;)

{Editor's Note: I doubt it.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:33:32
Liverpool Rumours
IU don't think buying Aguero would be a good idea with Suarez now arent they basically the same kind of player! for me Llorente and Suarez upfront would be amazing! with Sanchez on the wing! but if Torres can do this to us then Sanchez would be more likely to do the same.

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29 Jan 2011 14:33:04
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool to sign Harry Kewell After Final 100% on Loan not Honda

Steven Warrnock at Melwood to finalise loan

Charlie Adam tomorrow 7.5 Million Spearing on loan

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29 Jan 2011 14:32:17
Liverpool Rumours
Guys mourinho is a very smart scammer, not manager, not really scammer, but dealer, if i say. He has had carvalho in his team since portugal, only at inter did he not. But carvalho has performed amazingly every time, they seem to have an amazing connection, if mourniho isn't given money then he would be unsuccseful, look at benitez wen he was given like 30 mill to spend in 2005, he bought alonso, torres, garcia, all these great players. 1 champions league, 1 runner up champions league, 1 runners up premier league, until he wasnt given money!
saif

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29 Jan 2011 14:31:40
Liverpool Rumours
I was thinking surely the club must of got wind of the whole torres thing a few weeks back, .
If so surely the owners would have decided when over here, to have a plan for another top class striker should this problem with torres arise.
My thought is this , if they didn, t or don't maybe they had decided we just won't let him go.
I can't beleive they new nothing and were in the dark.

Martin

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29 Jan 2011 14:31:30
Liverpool Rumours
Think we should launch a bid for Radamel Falcao from Porto as a replacement for Fernando.

Think he would be an ideal replacement, wouldnt cost the earth. He's very similar to Fernando, Strong pacy, goodn on the ground and in the air. Of course i would love to see Kun, but maybe he's not a viable option. K3

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29 Jan 2011 14:31:11
Liverpool Rumours
Ed if we sell torres for say 45m or 50m i think we should get sanchez i know he said he likes united but hes class do you agree we should push for a tricky winger like sanchez, turan, hazard even if we don't sign a striker until the summer we still have ngog suarez pacheco and kuyt i think speedy tricky wingers are priority for us at the moment it annoys me that we never seem to go for players like sanchez, hazard do you agree ed?

{Editor's Note: Neither Sanchez nor Hazard would move to Liverpool. Arda would be the best option and he may be available in the summer.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:30:58
Liverpool Rumours
{Editor's Note: They did not get banned. They were fined (£50k from memory) for "tapping up" Ashley Cole.}

what about the kakuta incident ed? did something happen over that? i just remember it was a big issue for a while then nothing. . ?

ryan c belfast ynwa

{Editor's Note: No, that was to do with the club signing the player illegally - which they did not and it was overturned.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:30:48
Liverpool Rumours
I believe that man s**tty will be putting a bid in for Torres before the deadline.

This deal may unclude the services of Adam Johnson and Micah Richards. and around £30 Mil

I personally would snap their hands of for this deal. And then launch a bid for the Incredible Hulk.

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29 Jan 2011 14:29:23
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed just asking if torres did go who wud u want to replace him and whats the chances of gettin a world class replacement? ynwa cheers

{Editor's Note: Toivonen. Not good.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:28:55
Man i feel stupid, and lets be honest really sad as well. I never in a million years thought torres would leave us. And more surprising still is that he apparently wants chelsea who are yite at the moment and don't look like improving. I guess i should apologise to the media really, but fortunately i don't have to as it was an unnamed source that told me they were lying about it. Phew!
Really, really shudderingly disappointed.
Duckula

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29 Jan 2011 14:28:42
Googled Torres and uncovered a board game of the same name which is an abstract game of resource management and tactical pawn movement. Somehow seems apt!

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29 Jan 2011 14:28:08
Last night my worst nightmare became true- the prospect of Fernando Torres leaving. My initial response was a mixture of disbelief and anger amidst some tears. But then I realised we fans should not be the ones worrying; it should be Fernando Torres himself. We, Liverpool Football Club, are: the greatest football team the world has ever seen; the most successful football club the world has ever seen; have the greatest fans the world has ever seen and we have the greatest stadium the world has ever seen- ANFIELD. As Liverpool fans we can safely say that we will never walk alone, and no matter what, we will always walk through a storm with our heads held high- like we always do, and this situation we find ourselves in now is no different. We will recover. As soon as Torres signs that Chelsea/ Man City contract he is entering an unknown land, one where you will walk alone. Endless riches at Chelsea/ Man City might appear lovely, but legendary status within the fortress of Anfield is irreplaceable. I worry for him as he could potentially live the rest of his career in regret- regret knowing that he should have stayed in Liverpool, where he has become a prominent member of our one big community; regret knowing that he will never be able to pull on that famous red shirt and score in front of the mighty Kop ever again; regret that he won't be lifting the premier league trophy with our name adorned on it, and the regret that he should have listened to King Kenny's words of 'unite.'
As a Liverpool fan (despite living in London) and Fernando Torres being my favourite player, I really hope he has made his decision with his heart as well as his head. If you are leaving us, then thank you for the memories and your brilliance, and all the best for the future. But just remember, like the words on your captain's armband at Atletico- at Liverpool you'll never walk alone.

EW

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29 Jan 2011 14:28:03
Liverpool Rumours
To all you's out there saying no-one is bigger than the club, if it is true that torres has been intimidated bye other players and I don't care who they are wether it be Gerrard or Carragher, Ship them out as well. Liverpool will not win a League untill we have a team of players playing for the badge and each other.Shane

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29 Jan 2011 14:27:29
Liverpool Rumours
Ed! Was watching the chelsea everton game. Just finished and once the players headed inside, the fans were chanting the torres song! No lying here. Ask anyone who has seen the game! What does this mean ?

Breathtaking PHOENIX

Red for life!

{Editor's Note: It means the Everton fans are having a little fun.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:26:49
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{ed's note - he took Carvalho and Deco to Chelsea, then took Carvalho on to Madrid.}

scolari signed deco ed. .

Torres will leave in summer if he is going to leave. Kenny, NESV, and Damian will not allow him to leave this window even if he is unhappy. He will still commit to games and kenny will show the club is moving forward, a left winger will sign by deadline day. Turan for 12.2million. Torres will stay for now and decide his future in the summer. If he wants to leave in summer than liverpool will command a high fee. Possible replacements are being sounded out as we speak and in amongst them are youngsters; lukaku, wickham, and Muniain also cavani and falcao. everything i say is what ive heard from my source. wickham will be signed even if torres stays.

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29 Jan 2011 14:26:24
Liverpool Rumours
45m plus sturridge for torres would you take that?

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29 Jan 2011 14:24:28
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My own opinion on this is as follows, if Torres (amazing player as he is) wants to go then we should let him as no player is bigger than Liverpool Football Club. We have won 18 league titles, 5 european cups and in excess of 20 more other trophies without him, plus on recent form he certainly isn't irreplacable. I have read somewere though (his book i think) that he does like the city and he lives in an apartment block on the waterfront alongside Reina and Arteta, with whom he and his wife have breakfast with there families every morning plus he said he likes the friendliness of the people from the city. Now we all know London (or any southern towns/ citys) and especially the cockerneeeees are not very friendly. So big mistake for him, lots of money for us, new players, new fresh hunger, game wins, more points and up the league we go. how can this be bad for the mighty LFC.

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29 Jan 2011 14:24:15
If Gerrard and Carragher were giving Torres verbal intimedatio this was probably just giving him a kick up the backside. Every one could see at times at the start of the season he was just a passenger in the team, not making the same physical effort as the forementioned players.

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29 Jan 2011 14:24:07
Does Suarez have to complete his ban if he comes? If so for how long ?

SioLFC

{Editor's Note: He has completed it now.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:22:09
Liverpool Rumours
If the club was even thinking about letting torr go, they would of not told us that they have buffed him and chelsea yet, all week kk has said u will know when deals are done and not be4, so no deal will be done as we have been told.

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29 Jan 2011 14:22:04
Liverpool Rumours
If torres commits u- turn, i would welcome him with open hands & we shall make him
our highest paid player . 200k / weak won't bee too much for a tremendous player like him. .

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29 Jan 2011 14:21:36
Liverpool Rumours
I think i finally realise y torres suddenly wants to leave. . the fee for torres was around 22 mill or something right?? now suarez is coming in for torres at a higher price, the spotlight on torres will close and be on suarez, and if suarez starts banging in goals then torres will stop being loved completely. and being in a team that u get completely over shadowed in is not very fun, just ask 90% of barcas subs. Torres wants to go to a club that he can once again be considered a good striker, and a good player for spain!
I know it sounds weird but just think! Saif

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29 Jan 2011 14:21:19
Liverpool Rumours
No Sturridge on the Chelsea bench today. Interesting ?

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29 Jan 2011 14:17:41
How many games do you think it will take suarez do score hs first liverpool goal ed? please comment :) {ed's note - I have a sneaking feeling he will score on his debut to be honest. Tempted to put a few quid on it. What do you think?}

i agree ed i just have a feeling he will plus he is a striker so more of a chance! if nando plays i have a funny feeling he will set up suarez first lpool goal!
hopefully torres doesn't go!

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29 Jan 2011 14:17:32
Liverpool Rumours
Ed please post this . . want to know
have we got any real, real promising young strikers in the academy, like owen quality, who could come in and withing 6 months be an instant pick? because if we have, then i think we should sell the sulking spaniard, use the money to sing around 6 players, obviously another striker, but in these 6 months until the next transfer window, when we would be able to sign all these players, could use a young up and comer?

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29 Jan 2011 14:17:09
Hey ed, why is Torres so desperate to leave now all of a sudden? I still can't get my head around this after sleeping on it. This verbal intimidation stuff seems like an excuse to me. What could have Stevie and Carra possibly have said to make him want to leave? More importantly, WHY would they try to force him out when he is clearly our best player? It just does not make any sense.

DownUnderRed

{Editor Note: Wouldn't surprise me if Gerrard was doing it. There's more to him than what he does on the field, and most fans wouldn't like it.}

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Are you able to elaborate on this please Ed? If you are unable to I completely understand.

DownUnderRed

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29 Jan 2011 14:16:02
Liverpool Rumours
I have a strong feeling the Torres move was a smart and risky King Kenny idea to get NESV moving. And if Torres stays and plays well, I'll keep the thought that hes a good-will lad and sing his song when he plays and give him the confidence to give us those goals we need till the end of the season. I mean for Sake's the scumbag ur sh**ing on I think showed more commitment to the cllub than I expected for a guy who left his home to win trophies, I realy wonder if this would be the case if it Stevie was in his place (Although by far no comparison of commitment between the two).

Ne ways, Aguero's move to Merseyside dapendant on Turan's to Madrid, if not Aguero then it's Turan. More likely a summer move.

Hazard or Honda before the end of this window, would love that to be hazard as he has more pace and skill but honda looks more consistent and stronger. we're in need of pacy wingers imo, and Kenny is fond of them, great feeling it will be the next move b4 Charlie Adam's.
Know u have suareztorres-headaches but plz thoughts ed.

{Editor's Note: I don't see Turan, Aguero or Hazard making the move - and Honda is very doubtful now.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:15:20
Liverpool Rumours
Torres isn't going to go. His agent made him put in the transfer request so he would get a new contract and his agent would get more money.

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29 Jan 2011 14:12:41
Story Macca/ eds
Any Idea who will replace t****s?

Hulk
Llorente
L Lopez
Aguero
An other

Fowler is god

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29 Jan 2011 14:12:21
Liverpool Rumours
Just had the very difficult 'Torres going conversation' with my 6 year old daughter. She's a massive fan with a massive crush too.

Que the tears, the wailing and the tantrums.

Needless to say, she wasn't too happy either.

ha HA Red4ever. .Charlie from Old Swan.

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29 Jan 2011 14:11:11
If he wants to go then goodbye but not good luck. This is LFC no player is bigger than the club and never will be. Before he goes though ask him where was Michael owen in Istanbul.

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29 Jan 2011 14:10:27
Liverpool Rumours
Ed answer this because of the 25 man squad we need 8 english players so if we did buy any on else we would need to sell would't we

{Editor's Note: You may have misunderstood the rules just a little. The rule is actually the other way around. The club is allowed to declare 25 players over the age of 21 who will play. Of those 25, a maximum of 17 may be non home grown players (i.e. someone, regardless of nationality, did not spend three years playing in England or Wales before the end of the season in which they were 21). As an example, if Liverpool declared a squad of 18 players over 21, at least one would need to meet the home grown criteria; a squad of 20 and at least three would need to meet the home grown criteria, and so on. Hopefully this is clearer now. And this comes from someone to whom "home grown" means something entirely different!}

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29 Jan 2011 14:10:23
We won't gwt bojan he has a buyout clause of around euros 100 million

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29 Jan 2011 14:09:24
Liverpool Rumours
Mikel part of the deal and/ or nic

R7ey

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29 Jan 2011 14:08:36
Liverpool Rumours
Please post ed!
i think we should try for kalou! i know he has just scored for chelsea but hes only 23/ 24?
he's quick, tricky, has PL experience and is versatile
38 million and kalou,
believable = agree
unbelieavble = disagree

{Editor's Note: I think every Chelsea fan would hit agree.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:08:26
Do you think torres will go ed ?
please post ed been trying to post things on this all day and it hasnt been successful !

{Editor's Note: I expect him to leave.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:08:24
Torres is as good as gone, if not in the next couple of days then in the summer.

The club though need to play hard ball and in whatever deal need a striker as part of it.

The price should be clear 50 million plus Anelka. The money allows us to buy big in the summer and Anelka, while not great, can score goals and can play the sort of game that will line then up for Suarez.

Bring on the Chelsea - Red game!

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29 Jan 2011 14:06:06
Liverpool Rumours
Guys stop crying bout fernando leaving, he has been very very far from his best, and probably never will be the man the Kop used to sing about! also his request was denied! also ed do u think suarez is a good signing? i don't cause he scored lots of goals. . but in the dutch league, where rival teams beat other rival teams 10-0!

{Editor's Note: I am not convinced by Suarez.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:04:36
Liverpool Rumours
Here is the TRUTH for all you Scouse hating plastic fans. The ONLY players who REALLY care about LFC are the ones from Liverpool FACT. All the others are here for one thing and one thing only. . .MONEY! Your proof if proof was needed the traitor El Nino who bleated on and on about how much he loved the club. .yeah right you no good traitor. . .Jog on and take the Russian Mafia money. I'd have 11 proud SCOUSERS who bleed red ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!
RED77

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29 Jan 2011 14:04:31
Liverpool Rumours
Lets face facts he's going to Chelsea either now or in the summer. I just hope we get all the money and spend it wisely. I don't mind I felt the same way when Rush and Fowler left but I know someone else always comes along. No one is bigger than Liverpool F.C.

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29 Jan 2011 14:04:23
Liverpool Rumours
Not too bothered if we lose torres for 50million or so, i'm more worried that if he leaves in the next 2 days then who the HELL are we going to replace him with before Tuesday, can't put the same pressure on Suarez as we have done on Torres for the past 3 seasons, he needs a partner and look at the top teams other than Arsenal - they all have 2 or more top forwards in their teams :
Man U- Shrek, Berbatov, hernandez
Chelski - Anelka, Drogba, malouda
Man City - Tevez, Dzeko, Balotelli
we really need another striker along with suarez, 50 odd million must be enough to get Hulk/ Aguero/ Lukaku/ Negredo or anyone else of the world class calibre that we so badly need!
YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 14:04:17
Liverpool Rumours
ED, just wondering if you could clear something up for me. A mate of mine has said the Torres and Suarez share the same agent and that that has a major part to play in this whole thing. Do they infact share the same agent?
thanks mate!

{Editor's Note: No.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:03:33
Liverpool Rumours
What is all this tripe im readin about torres fallin out with stevie and carra?

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ed is this true or what cos i can't find anything about it and its recking my head! !

{Editor's Note: I am assured it is true.}

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29 Jan 2011 14:01:57
"Liverpool Rumours
Just a question for people who have seen alot of Suarez play. I've seen Aguero a fair bit and he's fantastic but Luis seems a little on the small side. If we bought Aguero to replace Torres, could he play alongisde Suarez or are they too similar?

Moongoose"

i believe they are too similar myself, although aguero is pretty strong and can do a job holding the ball up, having two 5'9" or 5'10" players just doesn't work for almost all teams.

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29 Jan 2011 14:01:17
To the tune of Louie Louie by The Kingsmen (from Quadrophenia)

Dadada dada! Dadada dada!
Luis Luis! oOOOH YES YOU GOT A GOAL! Dada!
Dada dada Dada dada!

Welcome King Luis the Urangutan
bybye wet lettuce!

Joycie

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29 Jan 2011 14:01:05
Liverpool Rumours
All this talk saying we should go for Aguero if torres goes, i just can't see us getting him.Was watching soccer saturday and they were saying aguero is on £225,000 per week NET at atletico.There is no way we would pay that amount of money in wages, not a chance.Me personally would like to see Fernando Llorente torres sign instead to play alongside suarez, that would be a mouth watering combination.

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29 Jan 2011 14:00:56
Liverpool Rumours
Tell ya what ed I am alot more confident with Kenny in charge of this Torres sitch than Norman Wisdom , imagine? ? , people Kennys been here before and he will put LFC top of his agenda remember Rush? look what we got Barnes, Beardsley, Aldridge.TRUST all will be well We are LFC , Bless ya loads YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 14:00:40
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 11:07:10
Liverpool Rumours
Torres out for 50m

Suarez in for 22m
Aguero in for 40m
Honda in for 15M
Adam in for 7m

Dont know about anyone else, but I could live with that! Reminds me of Rushie leaving, and bringing in Aldo, Beardsley, Barnes and Houghton. Id just rather see Torres go to Barca.

In KK we trust

RG
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Over the next 48 hours I expect the usual stuff from Spurs Sports News and the other London centric press and media about the collapse of Liverpool FC etc. And then NESV and Kenny come through for us on Monday with some sensational deals coming to the club.

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29 Jan 2011 14:00:19
Just a question for people who have seen alot of Suarez play. I've seen Aguero a fair bit and he's fantastic but Luis seems a little on the small side. If we bought Aguero to replace Torres, could he play alongisde Suarez or are they too similar?

Moongoose

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I've seen suarez play on many occassions, he's an excellent player and i believe we've got value for money, i haven't seen much of aguero but i hear good things but like all spanish players he'll cost us a fortune.

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29 Jan 2011 13:59:29
Liverpool Rumours
Ed,

Please clear this thing? ?Torres wants to leave because of lack of ambition at LFC. Does he want the owners to put money and buy players for inflated prices. Lets see CHELSEA and Liverpool this season
Carling Cup - Both knocked out
FA Cup - LFC out and Chelsea down 1-0 to Everton
League - Chelsea is 10 points behind leaders and 3 points from 5th though are in 4th, we are 9 points from 4th and could manage it if he stayed
UCL - We all know what happe, ns to Chelsea in semi finals. We have a better chance at UEFA cup to win 1 trophy this year atleast.

So tell me, why can't he be honest and say wages is the issue and NESV negotiates with him rather than us having to live on the edge for the weekend.

He himself mentioned he adores us fans and all. Even Xabi regrets leaving us for the fans and maybe puts in some advice into Torres. Xabi left to RM and they have hardly won anything since. Who can give u an assurance of success at a club other than the players themselves, we as fans can only support u in ur hard time and back u up when u r down like we did for Torres during his injury hit past 2 seasons. yeah, he was lied to by H&G and Roy but NESV is different and so is KK.

Please stay Torres for u culd take us where we belong

Is there any other competition left

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29 Jan 2011 13:59:00
Liverpool Rumours
There is definitely more to this than meets the eye. The whole thing overshadowing the Suarez signing stinks to high heaven. If the lad thinks that joining a Nouveau Riche team like Chelsea will cement him as one the all time greats then he is being very badly advised. Their team is in serious decline. Torres will be injured a lot more times in the future and 50 million now can do wonders to our squad. All this anti scouse rubbish on here is disgusting. If Carragher and Gerrard have got the hump with him then it is more than justified now. He has been dis-interested for the entire season and a disgrace to the shirt on a number of occasions.
RED77

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29 Jan 2011 13:58:51
Liverpool Rumours
Hopefully this get's posted 10th time lucky! !
all the torres talk is unfair on what will be a super signing in suarez, the one thing i don't like is why hasn't kenny or some official done an interview today to let us know what there stance is? i know all is done behind closed door's now but i'm sure they know all the fans are up in the air about this, at least they could unveil luis without all the torres questions that's gonna be fired at them, personally i'd sell him only if we can agree the signing of a replacement ie aguero llorente, also ed what's the chances of us signing turan and honda? {Editor's Note: None and remote.} also i can't wait till we see the back of carra never liked his personality i remember im destroying ince's wife's new car always stuck with me, wayne

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29 Jan 2011 13:58:46
Ed could you please tell evrybody to stop saying bad things about torres!
at the moment he is still a liverpool player! and he has done so much for us over the past few years that if he decides to move on then he should and i would respect that! if he stays i will be so happy!

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29 Jan 2011 13:57:24
Liverpool Rumours
If we do lose Torres I would like to see Suarez paired up with huntelaar again they would gel straight away and keep us going up the league

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29 Jan 2011 13:57:20
Liverpool Rumours
Cheslki getting beat this is for torre's if he is reading, chelski are on the way down we are rising fool torre's.

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29 Jan 2011 13:57:18
Liverpool Rumours
Oh luiz suarez,
partners with torres,
he came from ajax to liverpool,
hes continental,
hes h***ing mental,
. .so please don't take our suarez away,
(to the tune of you are my sunshine)

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29 Jan 2011 13:55:53
Liverpool Rumours
There must be a reason for torres transfer request?
i think NESV promised some signings and for some reason we didn't manage to get them.
thats the only reason i can come upu with.
what do you think ed?

{Editor's Note: Reda the posts - it's all there.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:54:17
Liverpool Rumours
Go on everton spank those tw*rs that will add another 5mil onto torres value.

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29 Jan 2011 13:54:11
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Does any one have pictures of suarez in liverpool yet

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29 Jan 2011 13:51:18
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I am a massive gerrard and carra fan, that said if there rocking torres boat, they should be sorted, they are not the future of liverpool, torres could well be. we have looked just as good, maybe better with out gerrard this year, we have defo looked more of a team with out him.

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29 Jan 2011 13:51:11
The armband said he was a red, Saurez, Suarez. You'll never walk alone it said. Suarez, Suarez.
He got it off a lad from Spain, Tall and blonde, forgotten his name, Luis Suarez Liverpools number 9!

Onward boys, onward! !

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29 Jan 2011 13:51:06
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I heard from a Chelsea supporting work colleague that the Torres deal was done between the clubs a month ago. We were just waiting for Suarez to be finalised before breaking the news.

We are in a rebuilding process. Torres money will be vital for that. Anyway he is starting to get niggly injuries and has already lost half a yard of pace - similar to Owen.

I would go for Aguero or Hulk. We do not have the required quality at centre half and never really managed to replace Masch or Alsonso. So why don't we ask for Essien?

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29 Jan 2011 13:50:37
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Newcastle have turned down a bid of £23m from Spurs for Andy Carrol. Football has gone mad. This means Liverpool should hold out for atleast £50m cash because he is 10 times the player Carrol is.

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29 Jan 2011 13:49:03
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I'm a big Torres fan but we never get a full season out of him due to injuries. . I reckon we should cash in and start building the team (again!). Potentially we could buy 3 or 4 quality players with the kind of money that is being mentioned. The timing is rubbish though with only 2 days left to get new players in .

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29 Jan 2011 13:48:37
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Is anyone else with me on this, but I've come full circle now. I'm wanting Torres to go and I'll be disappointed if he doesn't. Keeping an unhappy player, who's shown no respect for LFC or KK or £50M?

Davey Boy

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29 Jan 2011 13:48:07
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Hey Ed u missed out on my posts mate. cheers
I've been waiting for an hour now

{Editor's Note: It has been busy. Why are you waiting to read your own posts anyway - you know what they say?}

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29 Jan 2011 13:46:53
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Hi Ed
Do you know if Chelsea are the only team that have put a bid in for Torres or if there the only team that are intrested just now or are there others?
Great site mate.
Cheers Si

{Editor's Note: Just Chelsea.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:46:46
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Look what happened to owen when he left, he won nothing it could be the same, torres is always injured so take 50 million and Daniel Sturridge, English and only 21. . then use the money in the summer and by 2 or 3 world class players. . .

Ste Jones :-)

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29 Jan 2011 13:46:05
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29 Jan 2011 12:13:18
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{ed's note - I think this is the same situation as Gerrard, a deal has been done before Chelsea ever bid for him.}

does that mean chelsea have "tapped up" torres ed? {ed's note - yes.}
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Cant we report chelski for doing this though didn't they get banned from transfer a few years ago for tapping up

{Editor's Note: They did not get banned. They were fined (£50k from memory) for "tapping up" Ashley Cole.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:44:40
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In response to this:

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You lot need to realise that the rules change next season. there has to be some players that are qualified for england or have youth training in england. so stop calling for all these foreign players. in this window we have to sell to buy to keep within the 25 man squad rule. {ed's note - no we don't, we had a couple of spaces left for non-home grown players.}

We only entered a squad of 21 places (over 21's); Babel has left so we have 5 places. However as one of the home grown is on loan (Darby) not sure if we will only be able to replace with 4 foreign players.

{Editor's Note: The club is allowed to declare 25 players over the age of 21 who will play. Of those 25, a maximum of 17 may be non home grown players (i.e. someone, regardless of nationality, did not spend three years playing in England or Wales before the end of the season in which they were 21). As an example, if Liverpool declared a squad of 18 players over 21, at least one would need to meet the home grown criteria; a squad of 20 and at least three would need to meet the home grown criteria, and so on. Hopefully this is clearer now.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:44:34
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Ed- When do you think a bid for Adam will be accepted?

{Editor's Note: Soon.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:43:59
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Do you have any idea what it was about ed? {ed's note - a number of ex-players, mostly foreign, have complained about bullying from the 'Scouse Mafia' at Anfield.}

you call it bullying the 2 most senior players at anfield the captain and vice captain should be able to grab old of players and tell them to try harder and the love of the club and everything that goes with liverpool the players can't cry about it when they get leant on to hard

that is there job maybe they have already tried the softly softly approach and now have tried harder and that is why now we see just what sort of person he is

i have to say it is only from one place to this there are 2 sides to every story hope we here the other side.

he should just man up and get on with is job score goals.


i hope he stays but he as gone down as a person in my eyes.

but if he goes to chelsea then i have been hearing about a clause or not in is contract for 50million

well then there is the starting price if they want him then 50 million is where to begin see how much they really want him.

tazz YNWA

liverpool are and will always be bigger then 1 player

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29 Jan 2011 13:43:21
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To be honest yesterday I didn't want Torres to go. .but now I do. . .his attidude stinks and his behaviour is disgraceful. His head hasn't been in it this season it was so obvious he didn't want to be here. Anyone who doesn't want to play for the most succesfull club in England can go. ., we don't want them here. What we need in these struggling times is loyalty and players who actually want to play for the club. He came out and said he is stayin 3 weeks ago, funny how things can change so quickly. So Mr. Torres if you don't want to be here the fans don't want you. You support Liverpool and you are leaving to one of our worst rivals just for a bit extra money. Lets face it, you're not going to win trophies because Chelsea aren't exactly doing well. Us fans have adored you since you came here, sang your name when you were playing badly. So the way you have treated us is absolutely disgracful. Good riddance!

Taunton96

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29 Jan 2011 13:42:05
Feel sorry for Suarez. Torres' selfish attitude has put a dampener on his arrival.

Ed- Do you actually think there is a chance we could sign Aguero before the deadline?

{Editor Note: No.}

Which striker do you think we will buy then?

{Editor's Note: Suarez.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:41:53
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Iff he wants off let him go his heart is no longer in it no one is bigger than lfc the name on the back of the shirt is not as big as the crest on the front of it. lofty 75

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29 Jan 2011 13:40:53
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Ed! honestly, has torres been tapped up! !?
. . please post and respond?

{Editor's Note: No. This is no different to a club coming in to bid for any player - Liverpool and Suarez for example.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:40:18
NESV simply donthave the money to keep us a big club. Why does it have to take five years. The reality is that you will have to throw money at the club to be in the top 4. Chelsea and Mancity has done this. Even Spurs has been spending money in the last 2 seasons. Other clubs are getting stronger.
Nesv want to follow the Arsenal model. Easier said but what they did not realise is that arsenal had solid foundations to buiold the model. The were winning the Prem leaugue for a couple of seasons and always in the top four. We have not won the EPL and only been top four, 4 out of 6 seasons.
I just cannot trust Henry. I am really rying hard to trust him. He refused to say if he will build a new stadium when buying the club and I cannot understand why other higher biddres were blocked from making a bid. I hate to think insider dealing.
The reality is that the players has seen the way the have handle the 1st transfer window and are not happy with NESV. The have simply seen that top class players will not be coming to lpool. Riena is next out and expect some other players to follow.TORRESS IS SEEING SOME SIMILARITY OF THE H&G ERA. NESV really want to sell and pocket the money.
About the stadium it will take another 12 months before anything is done.
Really they should just sell the club quickly to some Arab who can afford us.

{Editor's Note: So a "Yonks Out - Sugar Daddy In" flag waver.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:40:08
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To the ed: is Torres at the everton game against Chelsea today.

Keebass

{Editor's Note: I am sure he would not be there.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:39:47
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Do you think Torres wants to leave because he is no longer the Golden Boy as Suarez has a better strike rate and - even if it's for a short while - the attention won't be on him?

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29 Jan 2011 13:39:38
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Ed how can they agree terms etc for Torres when liverpool havnt accepted a bid ?

{Editor's Note: No one has agreed terms with the player.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:39:37
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Personally don't think torres can play for the reds again, i certainly couldn't fully support him again, and we all know he's prone to the "odd" sulk, gutted, but just think its all over.

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29 Jan 2011 13:39:12
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Cant believe people posting get rid of gerrard if hes intimidating torres how dare they after all gerrards done for us. cash in and move on. Dont forget what stevie done for us one night in may.

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29 Jan 2011 13:39:08
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If torres leaves forlan to go with suarez what do you think ed? {ed's note - no thank you, not good enough for the EPL and he is carried in La Liga by Aguero who is twice the player.}

***C'mon Ed. Aguero's goalscoring record cannot be compared to Forlan's. Since leaving the Mancs, Forlan has flourished, season after season, and his record in La Liga is frightening. Aguero has the potential to replicate such records, however, if Forlan were to join us for around 10m, he would form a deadly partnership with Suarez. Aguero will join Real Madrid in the summer for 40m, so we can all forget about him.***

Glanton {ed's note - just watch Atletico play, without Aguero they are rubbish, with Aguero but no Forlan and they are still a good side. He is the central component of the side, just like Alonso was for us.}

ed i know what your saying but now we have suarez who was the player supporting at the world cup where he was one of the best players. .

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29 Jan 2011 13:39:08
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Boys here it goes. . . . . . . . . .

Liverpool identified targets to play alonside torres (traitor) The list consisted upto 8 names, they have all been scouted and questions asked.
re- price, availability,
the list consisted of
lacina traore
connor wickham
Gomez
adebayour
negredo
llorente
toivonin
van wolfswinkel

If torres leaves one of these may be the options. subject to availability. . . . . . . . .

on a personal note would like to see Ashley young - Charlie adam - shawcross - cavani - traore ed's great site if you had the torres money who would you like.

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29 Jan 2011 13:38:31
I was just thinking back to a night at anfield against benfica last season when we won convincingly and a certain number9 scored twice the jubilation of everyone in anfield was overwhelming
Although he was injured in that match he carried on and helped us to the win
What he has done recently has shown that he no longer feels the same way and we should all be hurt by the fact that he has done this to us

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29 Jan 2011 13:38:19
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I remember when Ferguson wouldn't let Gabriel Heinze come to liverpool (quote "there is no way i would let him go to a rival team") can't we do the same with Torres stop him from going to a prem side?

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29 Jan 2011 13:37:28
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29 Jan 2011 12:03:31
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Any actual proof of a fallout between torres and stevie/ carra or are people putting 2+2 together and gettin 7. Please reply. Cheers ed

Nugget {ed's note - only his comments about verbal intimidation.}

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do you have any idea what it was about ed? {ed's note - a number of ex-players, mostly foreign, have complained about bullying from the 'Scouse Mafia' at Anfield.}


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When did torres say he was verbally intimidated?

Nugget

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29 Jan 2011 13:36:28
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Ed, now that the Suarez deal has been done, apart from Adam, who do u think we are targeting to come in?

{Editor's Note: Possibly one more player.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:35:17
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Do you think we will sign aguero/ llorente in this window if torres goes ed? ?

{Editor's Note: No.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:34:09
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If these stories are true about torres, hes a bit of a hock. waiting until the end of the window to ask for a transfer is pretty low by anyone's standards. only a couple of days to go, who would replace him? aguero? llorente? negredo? if he leaves, my money's on someone who knows the english game already. anelka has been mentioned but i think his best years are behind him. cole? carroll? or my personal favourite. .defoe. we should have spent that 20m on him rather than keane imo. would spuds sell him to us? i know i'd be happy to get him for anything less than 25m now. leaving quite a considerable chunk of cash to strengthen other areas. sometimes in football, a player will demand such a transfer fee that will never be offered again so for the benefit of the team, that player should be sold. it might hurt for now but time (and money) is a great healer. if he goes, i can only see positives, 50m+ to invest in the team. 50m+ can be quite handy in the hands of any manager let alone the king

ryan c belfast ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 13:33:27
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How many games do you think it will take suarez do score hs first liverpool goal ? please comment :)

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29 Jan 2011 13:33:24
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If Torres leaves (I hope not) the targets should be:

Hulk, Falcao, Lisandro lopez, Gomez

And my 2 personal favs Cavani(napoli) 30 apps 20 goals. I don' t understand that nobody is talking about him. And Llorente.

Maybe aguero. But I'm not really sure that he is worth that kind of money. I also think he is 2 small for the PL.

Miko 39 Belgium

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29 Jan 2011 13:33:09
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Manchester City are putting together a bid for Torres that Liverpool will be unable to say no to. And I do mean BIG. It will be more than Ronaldo moved for and will involve two other players making the switch to Anfield. Manchester City are prepared to blow Chelsea out the water and in doing so make a statement to the football world, as if they haven't spent enough on strikers already. I am not saying Torres is worth more than Ronaldo, he isn't, but this isn't about value, this is about City making a statement and blowing a rival out of the water.

City could well go on to win the Premiership this season, and I for one (if we must lose him) would rather he go there for a fee so large my sphincter may implode when I read about it, and stop the Dirty Mancs getting to number 19.

I was wrong about Torres wanting to leave, and I am just as gutted. But this bid will be placed soon and we would be mad to turn it down but we won't, it will be too big a bid.

Michael Duvall

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29 Jan 2011 13:33:27
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How many games do you think it will take suarez do score hs first liverpool goal ed? please comment :) {ed's note - I have a sneaking feeling he will score on his debut to be honest. Tempted to put a few quid on it. What do you think?}

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29 Jan 2011 13:15:44
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Alright guys, depressing day but here goes. .
Cast your mind back to the storm surrounding a sky sports female presenter and Martin broughton at a function a while back. . and the gist of the story was that Torres would go to Chelsea. .and of course it was denied. .

Broughton we all know is a Chelsea fan, and the comments from Torres being told that "rich" owners coming in was a ploy.

Broughton did say this, and he then denied that anyone was interested in buying us with the kind of money of city etc. .

Sorry to burst the bubble of the myth surrounding this iconic figure of broughton but again this was a lie.

The fact that nesv and broughton managed to stiff g&h is the stuff of legends nowadays but people forget the harsh reality of the situation.

The fact that the court case could have gone in favour of g&h is forgotten, and it is this reason that so many "potential" buyers were waiting for the eleventh hour, the fact that these people were in contact with broughton and wanted to be kept up to date with the developments is something that broughton lied again. .

And although the consensus of hicks is universal, he did manage to tell one truth, about us having the type of owners we deserve, which as most will know wouldve referred to sheik Mohammed. .although it is also true that hicks did want more money.

The fact that sheik Mohammed offered £500 million two years ago or so is testament of his intentions, the fact that he is big on horse racing is also testament why broughton was bought in, so is the fact that barcap was appointed, who in turn hired a miss stavely who had previously been hired by sheik Mohammed. . this my friends is the greatest shafting in the history of the club. .except for the overall plan to unfold.

Nesv will sell Liverpool, anyone who thinks otherwise is to be honest a bit naive, they are actually allowing the sale to go through because it is deemed as asset stripping, babel, Torres even aquilani, they will then return a minimum return into the squad whilst retaining the majority of the sales.

They know who they are trying to sell to, but unlike the last ones they are actually quite good at what they are doing.

They are making noises etc about how they are opposing the sale, but trust me they are actually encouraging it behind the scenes, because they know that man city are keeping a close eye on the dealings going on.

The fact that they are still being viewed in a positive way by the majority of fans is comical if it wasn't actually so tragic, but there you go.

We have a while for things to pan out at the moment, but although it will be painful yet again, we have to wait for things to happen. . and then expect a quick turnaround in things. .

I'm sorry guys but we have been hoodwinked, by yet more savvy American owners and a former chairman who supports Chelsea, who gave assurances to our top player, who now so happens to be possibly on his way to Chelsea stating that "assurances" have not been meet.

Do the math

J Davies

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29 Jan 2011 13:14:20
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Ed i need your help , ive just got back from work and ive been thinking all day about the torres suituation , is there any chance that liverpool oweners + the king will chat to him to try and win him over or are they resigned to losing him and think its best to start finding replacements? because of the timing of it all , if we do lose torres by sunday , we need a new striker by monday which doesn't leave us long that's the problem , and if were looking for another striker then the chances of us snapping up wingers and charlie adam will be slim because our attention will be towards finding new striker.

The two names i thought of as replacements were the same as everybody else , fernando Llorente ( similar to torres ) or my favour player outside the premier league SERGIO AGUERO , but ed i was thinking the chances of signing either is slim surely? because cheslea had bids rejected for aguero which must of been (£30m plus ) and also athletic bilbao have said that llorente won't move in summer or wintow transfer window, im confused who else is there?

Negredo = not too bad , but not a big name replacement
Hulk = would love hulk , think him and suarez would be unbelivable , plus there both south american, chances of signing him though?
lukaku = he won't move until the summer according to anderlecht and plus hes still studying in belgium
benzema = real madrid short on strikers because of higuains injury , but then they have just signed adebayor , so benzema and suarez would be awesome.
samuel eto'o = you never know , we should try and get him think he would be awesome.

any other options? luis fabiano? diego forlan? carlos tevez? andy carroll? pato?

what you think people? also what you think ed?

DLG

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29 Jan 2011 13:14:15
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When exactly did Kenny leave to "further his career"? Kenny left due to being emotionally drained post Hillsborough!
This is regarding the following sentence from a previous post

29 Jan 2011 10:18:13
Torres owes the club nothing Liverpool are sime
His employer, and people change employers all the time, if anybody on here is old enough to remember when Dalglish or Rush left you will also remember that back in those days it was fine to want to further your carear.

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29 Jan 2011 13:14:14
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Hi ed, I've heard this morning that Torres handed his transfer request in so he can leave in the summer he will not be allowed to move till then, its common knowledge at LFC that he's been looking to leave for quite some time.He's handed in to make everyone aware that he's unhappy at Anfield, and a agreement has been made for him to stay till the end of the season and LFC will let him leave for the right price in summer.But he won't join chelsea, its Barcelona he's heading for!

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29 Jan 2011 13:14:12
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Good news
if torres sale happens 40 m aguero
i would love to see augero at liverpool

adam and nzobia will sign for a total of 21m

we will not sign a left back or ashley young

jan signings will be

suarez adam nzogbia

if torres goes which nobody knows aguero

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29 Jan 2011 13:13:20
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Torres Situation

Hi to all, love this site much thanks to the editors and all.

I think the Liverpool leadership needs to be strong now and not succumb to Torres demands or allow abramvich(Chelsea) to put pressure on them I don't care what amount of money is on offer.
I believe with Torres still having 2 &1/ 2 years left on his contract they have the power to say no to both Torres and Chelsea with no conditions period.

1.What they need to do in the next 6 months is get the management of the the team sorted out First hopefully Kenny.
2.If Torres whats to go it gives them 6 months to look at possible replacements and make a better informed decision not rushed.
3.Say to Torres OK If you still want to go we will put you on the transfer list in the summer and let all the clubs with money know (Barca, Man city, Inter, R Madrid, Man Utd, and yes Chelsea) Bidding will start at nothing under £45m don't even bother if you haven't got it.
4.If you look at the transfers done in this window Bent 24m, Saurez 23m then from a Marketing and football point of view Torres is worth 3 times those values.
5.So as to regards as it stands now Mr Abramvich no it does not suit us now! You are welcome to bid along with the rest of them in the summer.

Cheer for now

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29 Jan 2011 13:13:15
Hey ed, why is Torres so desperate to leave now all of a sudden? I still can't get my head around this after sleeping on it. This verbal intimidation stuff seems like an excuse to me. What could have Stevie and Carra possibly have said to make him want to leave? More importantly, WHY would they try to force him out when he is clearly our best player? It just does not make any sense.

DownUnderRed

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29 Jan 2011 13:13:07
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Unless LFC can move to replace nando within 3 days, which is really difficult, they've nothing to lose by keeping him till the summer.

If he plays rubbish, just bench him- but we won't even have the option to try, if we let him go now.
And if he plays well, we still have a great strikeforce till the summer and at least 5/ 6th place in the bag.

In the summer there could be a bidding war, that can only be good for LFC- deals like Adam Johnson plus cash from City, Aguero, Hulk- who knows what players we might get, with more time to do a deal.
I say if we can't get a replacement in within the window, hang on to him, because we are no worse off that way.

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29 Jan 2011 13:12:56
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{ed's note - I like Anelka, he was always willing to take the time to sign things and stop and have a chat while he was here. I know people say he is a sulk, but I found him a nice bloke. I would like to see him back and working with Pacheco and Suso and the other kids, helping their development. Both Cazorla and Piatti are excellent players in my opinion.}

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Actually this is a very interesting idea (working with the younger players), As I honestly think that any striker we pick up will be playing second fiddle to Suarez, I don't think that any club that is outside of the top 7-10 in europe can justify having two top-top tier strikers, Anelka is an enigma in that he very much plays second fiddle to Drogba, but delivers the good when called upon. . would he be happy to do that with us? who knows. .

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29 Jan 2011 13:12:49
If torres wants to leave we should let him go for 60mil.
it would really hurt to see him go but
he isn't happy at lfc anymore, we should thank him and wish him the best.
with 60 mil you can buy 3 worldclass players, we are stupid not to sell him.
for me the only starting players that are good enough are
reina
kelly
agger
johnson
meirelles
gerrard
suarez
torres
so selling torres for 3 starters is what we should do.

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29 Jan 2011 13:12:45
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Ed, could u please tell me the thinking behind not signing a winger this window? Suarez is quality and we did need a striker, and I like adam but, yet again, we have got our priorities so wrong. . .

{Editor's Note: One could still arrive or a pre contract for Marveaux.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:12:27
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Macca on the nose again any chance of next games score

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29 Jan 2011 13:12:09
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Takin the attention away from Torres cause that's all the spoilt brat wants!

What a signing Suarez is going to be, really lookin forward to seein him in a red shirt! Has anybody any idea when his medical is to take place?

Dan

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29 Jan 2011 13:10:39
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Ok its a mess! wouldn't mind if this happened at the start of the window so we could find a replacement but its only a few days before the deadline. i personally tink torres will leave if we get a replacement on time , i would go for benzema , llorente , aguero or lukaku get turan wit de money aswel , this could turn out to be a good thing! peace out

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29 Jan 2011 13:10:39
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Listen we are the ones holding the cards, if Chelsea want Torres, tell them £60m cash or £50m plus Essian if they refuse so be it then City the same senario £60m or £40m plus Tevev it is as simple as that. What do u think ED. They have to pay the going price for proven quality.

{Editor's Note: The worst case scenario would then be Torres staying and not being interested in playing for the club.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:10:34
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Here is my take on torres transfer, ed would like it if u could comment, 1st as loads of people have said this and last season torres has not look interested and if he wants to go, let him go, we only want players commited, 2ndly and this is my main point, its the 1st time in history that i can remember(i am a 42 year old from edge lane)that liverpool have said they are turning down a transfer request from a top player, even gerrrard request didn't go on lfc website when he wanted off, my point being i reckon they are saying by putting it on the website is to auction him off, man city barca, milan to drive the price up, and we should, i deffo think he will be gone by monday, 40 mill and adam johnson, anyways fellow reds keep your head up , no one bigger than the club
frankyscouser

{Editor's Note: If the club wish to auction a player off they will simply tell his agent to find interested parties. They would not do it through the web site and elaks.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:30:19
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Looking like Nando will go, however I think it will be in the summer.
With Suarez coming in, we need a number '9' type striker to compliment him.
Only a couple of I can think of that fits that mould who are still young:
Mario Gomez
Fernando Llorente
Falcao (maybe)
Lukaku (still very raw)

I think Gomez would be great in the EPL

What do you think ED ?

{Editor Note: Llorente or Aguero for me mate.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:29:44
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Hi all, I just want to put my 2 cents in.

1. None of us really know why Nando put the request in, for all we know he might have done it so we would start a move on the transfer front. He may have thought because chelski put in a bid it was the perfect way to do it so until we hear from him we shouldn't judge! For all we know he only done it for the good of the club and the ambition the club should be showing. If that's what happened then he will be for me imortalised!

2. If this aint the case then we need to wait until we find out why he wants to leave and what went wrong behind the halowed gates! !

3. Why is there people so sceptical of NESV? They have done everything we have asked of them so far and so far everything they have promised! I believe we have the best owners possible, until they break promises or do something really wrong nobody has the right to critisize. As for the profit thing, ofcourse they are in it for the profit but as long as the give the club and fans what they deserve and want the what is the problem?? ?

Ed what do you think?

Agree bel. disagree unbel.

Anto Lfc

{Editor Note: NESV have no promises to break.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:29:17
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When I got up this morning to find Nando's request all over the internet I felt sick.
But the more you look at it, this is a blessing in disguise. With 50m+ we could buy Aguero and possibly Turun on deadline day. Aguero has more room to improve than Torres, and has said he is a Liverpool fan. I would rather have a less good player playing 100% than a moody, unhappy player playing 20% while his value decreases.
With Chelsea's reputation Torres will be regretting it by March. Remember Shevchenko (spelling)?
No player is bigger than this club, and he has ruined his reputation as a ledgend by handing in his transfer request. If it is a 'Rooney' than he has made a mistake as Liverpool fans won't thank him for putting us through this. If he thinks he would rather play up front with Malouda instead of Suarez, and be fed by Fat Frank and not Stevie then he is a fool.

lpool
YNWA
p.s Ed do you think Aguero will still want to come without Nando?

{Editor Note: I've said before, if footballers just want to join the club for the sake of one player then I don't want them.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:28:17
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Liverpool sells Torres to Chelski and signs Diego Forlan!

Suarez and Forlan the perfect Striker-Partnership?!
Any Thoughts?!

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29 Jan 2011 13:27:57
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I think hulk wouldn't be a bad choice what you think ed

{Editor Note: Good player.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:27:26
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Stop critisising(typo? ) Torres. really
Stop saying be loyal this that, if he is unhappy he should go , you might not remember this but this football is also just a f***ing job. . When where unhappy at our job we have the right to look for anything else. and so do footballers. Let him be and don't blame him .

diO.

The first sensible thing said about all of this.

Mooseman47

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29 Jan 2011 13:26:20
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If Torres does leave it will be his choice , the money we get for him will only benefit the team , do we really want players , who no longer want to play for our team , yes he is an amazing player but has shown in recent months that he is not happy, and his performances prove it. there are better players available for less , and could use what is left to strenghthen other areas of the team too .
If he does leave it will be his mistake and downfall , cause alot of teams would have dropped him long ago

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29 Jan 2011 13:26:06
Anelkas 31 why do u all want him?

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29 Jan 2011 13:25:23
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Hey i'm an avid reader of the site but i've never posted before! Like everyone else i'm absolutely gutted about nando's request, however, i really think people need to get this rooney saga out of their heads, there is no way kk will accept this kind of behaviour from any red. i honestly think there's no coming back from a written transfer request i'm just hoping that being the time of year it is we are making all the decisions, i'd hate to see us pushed into selling him without being able to replace him!, lets hope the likes of honda, aguero and llorente are already deeply in the boards thoughts! !

The other point i wanted to make was about nesv, i'm really baffled by comments about them being yankee cowboys and only being after the money tbh, i think it's pretty plain they aren't sugar daddies but as i understood it we didn't want that in the first place? I think suarez is a pretty good statement of intent and like the ed's say the right players will be bought, we don't need a "transfer kitty" to waste on 8 average players anymore!

who thinks kk will be kept on past the end of the season? i love the thought of boas from porto however is it going to be possible for nesv to move kenny aside should be have a half decent end to the season?

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29 Jan 2011 13:24:59
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Let's say we do sell nando which in my eyes is a win win situation, we keep him we have two world class strikers but if we sell him we have 60 million plus in the kitty. The players that I would buy with this money would be llorente-world class forward, young-great wide man with pace, turan-great team player with plenty of skils, Adam-great player for his price, Honda-great player who can play pretty much anywhere in midfield or attack and finally any quality left back which is one of our most problem positions taiwo perhaps.

These would be the players I would try to buy on January and the summer with the Torres money which may may not go through.

Be great to hear your thoughts ed

Cheers

{Editor Note: I'd rather he stayed to be honest.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:23:20
Ok I have two friends in Liverpool, none of whom have any association with LFC but both claim to have contacts. I've no idea who these are but I trust both of them not to make stuff up. They don't claim to know everything but both told me about Torres long before he signed and one also knew owen would leave. They both also told me about Gerrard to Chelsea in 2005 before his last minute turn around.

Anyway as I said they aren't always right but they only talk when they actually have news so I have no reason to doubt them. I have just been told by both that they have it on good authority that Torres will be offered a contract extension. Problem is one of them says he will sign but the other says he will turn it down.

I don't know what this means but I'm now 99% sure we will offer Torres a new deal. Whether he takes it or not, who knows.

From a man who's not in the know (but trusts his sources)

Redfish

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29 Jan 2011 13:22:52
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Guys I heard torres is staying, it's all a bit messed up there is major I'll feeling in the camp and some big names are hurting the team spirit! It's ott clique and not good. The verbal transfer request was before the Suarez deal announced but written came after. It's not contract improvement Torres heard of the bid and has shot the entire club up by saying key me talk to em! The club did what it should and said politely jog the f*** on. But it's a statement he is frustrated, hurt and Geels let down the club is not going to sell the most marketable asset they have and (in my eyes) more important to long term future than gerrard! And do do with 2 days left, Dan roan BBC journo said he feels it's end off and Torres is going nowhere till summer! I don't like these transfer windows anymore! ! !
Jim

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29 Jan 2011 13:20:47
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"Remember, the last time Kenny sold a world-class striker he bought Barnes, Beardsley and Houghton, and got Aldridge in advance of Rush leaving."

From the tomkinstimes on Friday. .

Chins up lads, we'll be right

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29 Jan 2011 13:19:24
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Liverpool Are in Talks With Karim Benzema about a possible loan move untill the end of season with a view to buy for 15mil-18mil , this will only happen if torres leaves, I will have more about this hopefully tommorow

Azza

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29 Jan 2011 13:19:21
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If it were me, £45 mil, Yuri Zhirkov and Anelka, Id be very happy. Buy Lakuku, Turan and Honda with £45 million, 5 players are better than 1 and those 5 are all quality

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29 Jan 2011 13:18:16
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Ed, you say that the club have gone public with the bid for torres just to drum up more interest in him. .

could it not just be that they went public to show how serious they are in not wanting torres to go, and to show the fans that they are not a selling club. .

although this ploy has gone slightly wrong, i thin this was why they went public. Opinion on this ed?

{Editor Note: Maybe, but clubs would have known if he wanted to leave anyway because of his agent.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:16:56
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Guys I heard torres is staying, it's all a bit messed up there is major I'll feeling in the camp and some big names are hurting the team spirit! It's ott clique and not good. The verbal transfer request was before the Suarez deal announced but written came after. It's not contract improvement Torres heard of the bid and has shot the entire club up by saying key me talk to em! The club did what it should and said politely jog the f*** on. But it's a statement he is frustrated, hurt and Geels let down the club is not going to sell the most marketable asset they have and (in my eyes) more important to long term future than gerrard! And do do with 2 days left, Dan roan BBC journo said he feels it's end off and Torres is going nowhere till summer! I don't like these transfer windows anymore! ! !
Jim

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29 Jan 2011 13:16:35
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As you all are probz gutted about torres and i am the same but. . . . . . . .the thing im worried about is apparently reina has an activation clause on his contract which allows him to leave for 20 mill, if torres goes. Can u clear this up ed?. . . cheers.

Another thing im worried about is we have more transfer rumours for players goin out the club than goin in therz 2 days left of the window and i think wer a few players short.

{Editor Note: I doubt we'd have such a clause in Reina's contract.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:16:33
Chelsea are being cheeky I think we should say ok 45 million and Drogba and watch the Russian con man have a coronary.

Ha ha, I was thinking the same thing - i know it won't happen - ask for Drogba or Terry within the fee just to put the cat in amongst the pigeons when they agree to it then we do a u-turn. See how their squad moral is then. Always after our effing players.

Kind of hoping Barca come in with an offer.

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29 Jan 2011 13:14:20
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Ed i need your help , ive just got back from work and ive been thinking all day about the torres suituation , is there any chance that liverpool oweners + the king will chat to him to try and win him over or are they resigned to losing him and think its best to start finding replacements? because of the timing of it all , if we do lose torres by sunday , we need a new striker by monday which doesn't leave us long that's the problem , and if were looking for another striker then the chances of us snapping up wingers and charlie adam will be slim because our attention will be towards finding new striker.

The two names i thought of as replacements were the same as everybody else , fernando Llorente ( similar to torres ) or my favour player outside the premier league SERGIO AGUERO , but ed i was thinking the chances of signing either is slim surely? because cheslea had bids rejected for aguero which must of been (£30m plus ) and also athletic bilbao have said that llorente won't move in summer or wintow transfer window, im confused who else is there?

Negredo = not too bad , but not a big name replacement
Hulk = would love hulk , think him and suarez would be unbelivable , plus there both south american, chances of signing him though?
lukaku = he won't move until the summer according to anderlecht and plus hes still studying in belgium
benzema = real madrid short on strikers because of higuains injury , but then they have just signed adebayor , so benzema and suarez would be awesome.
samuel eto'o = you never know , we should try and get him think he would be awesome.

any other options? luis fabiano? diego forlan? carlos tevez? andy carroll? pato?

what you think people? also what you think ed?

DLG

{Editor Note: Llorente and Aguero would be my first options.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:14:15
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When exactly did Kenny leave to "further his career"? Kenny left due to being emotionally drained post Hillsborough!
This is regarding the following sentence from a previous post

29 Jan 2011 10:18:13
Torres owes the club nothing Liverpool are sime
His employer, and people change employers all the time, if anybody on here is old enough to remember when Dalglish or Rush left you will also remember that back in those days it was fine to want to further your carear.

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29 Jan 2011 13:14:14
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Hi ed, I've heard this morning that Torres handed his transfer request in so he can leave in the summer he will not be allowed to move till then, its common knowledge at LFC that he's been looking to leave for quite some time.He's handed in to make everyone aware that he's unhappy at Anfield, and a agreement has been made for him to stay till the end of the season and LFC will let him leave for the right price in summer.But he won't join chelsea, its Barcelona he's heading for!

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29 Jan 2011 13:14:12
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Good news
if torres sale happens 40 m aguero
i would love to see augero at liverpool

adam and nzobia will sign for a total of 21m

we will not sign a left back or ashley young

jan signings will be

suarez adam nzogbia

if torres goes which nobody knows aguero

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29 Jan 2011 13:13:20
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Torres Situation

Hi to all, love this site much thanks to the editors and all.

I think the Liverpool leadership needs to be strong now and not succumb to Torres demands or allow abramvich(Chelsea) to put pressure on them I don't care what amount of money is on offer.
I believe with Torres still having 2 &1/ 2 years left on his contract they have the power to say no to both Torres and Chelsea with no conditions period.

1.What they need to do in the next 6 months is get the management of the the team sorted out First hopefully Kenny.
2.If Torres whats to go it gives them 6 months to look at possible replacements and make a better informed decision not rushed.
3.Say to Torres OK If you still want to go we will put you on the transfer list in the summer and let all the clubs with money know (Barca, Man city, Inter, R Madrid, Man Utd, and yes Chelsea) Bidding will start at nothing under £45m don't even bother if you haven't got it.
4.If you look at the transfers done in this window Bent 24m, Saurez 23m then from a Marketing and football point of view Torres is worth 3 times those values.
5.So as to regards as it stands now Mr Abramvich no it does not suit us now! You are welcome to bid along with the rest of them in the summer.

Cheer for now

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29 Jan 2011 13:13:15
Hey ed, why is Torres so desperate to leave now all of a sudden? I still can't get my head around this after sleeping on it. This verbal intimidation stuff seems like an excuse to me. What could have Stevie and Carra possibly have said to make him want to leave? More importantly, WHY would they try to force him out when he is clearly our best player? It just does not make any sense.

DownUnderRed

{Editor Note: Wouldn't surprise me if Gerrard was doing it. There's more to him than what he does on the field, and most fans wouldn't like it.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:13:07
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Unless LFC can move to replace nando within 3 days, which is really difficult, they've nothing to lose by keeping him till the summer.

If he plays rubbish, just bench him- but we won't even have the option to try, if we let him go now.
And if he plays well, we still have a great strikeforce till the summer and at least 5/ 6th place in the bag.

In the summer there could be a bidding war, that can only be good for LFC- deals like Adam Johnson plus cash from City, Aguero, Hulk- who knows what players we might get, with more time to do a deal.
I say if we can't get a replacement in within the window, hang on to him, because we are no worse off that way.

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29 Jan 2011 13:12:56
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{ed's note - I like Anelka, he was always willing to take the time to sign things and stop and have a chat while he was here. I know people say he is a sulk, but I found him a nice bloke. I would like to see him back and working with Pacheco and Suso and the other kids, helping their development. Both Cazorla and Piatti are excellent players in my opinion.}

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Actually this is a very interesting idea (working with the younger players), As I honestly think that any striker we pick up will be playing second fiddle to Suarez, I don't think that any club that is outside of the top 7-10 in europe can justify having two top-top tier strikers, Anelka is an enigma in that he very much plays second fiddle to Drogba, but delivers the good when called upon. . would he be happy to do that with us? who knows. .

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29 Jan 2011 13:12:49
If torres wants to leave we should let him go for 60mil.
it would really hurt to see him go but
he isn't happy at lfc anymore, we should thank him and wish him the best.
with 60 mil you can buy 3 worldclass players, we are stupid not to sell him.
for me the only starting players that are good enough are
reina
kelly
agger
johnson
meirelles
gerrard
suarez
torres
so selling torres for 3 starters is what we should do.

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29 Jan 2011 13:12:27
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Macca on the nose again any chance of next games score

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29 Jan 2011 13:12:09
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Takin the attention away from Torres cause that's all the spoilt brat wants!

What a signing Suarez is going to be, really lookin forward to seein him in a red shirt! Has anybody any idea when his medical is to take place?

Dan

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29 Jan 2011 13:10:39
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Listen we are the ones holding the cards, if Chelsea want Torres, tell them £60m cash or £50m plus Essian if they refuse so be it then City the same senario £60m or £40m plus Tevev it is as simple as that. What do u think ED. They have to pay the going price for proven quality.

{Editor Note: We won't get Essien mate.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:10:34
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Here is my take on torres transfer, ed would like it if u could comment, 1st as loads of people have said this and last season torres has not look interested and if he wants to go, let him go, we only want players commited, 2ndly and this is my main point, its the 1st time in history that i can remember(i am a 42 year old from edge lane)that liverpool have said they are turning down a transfer request from a top player, even gerrrard request didn't go on lfc website when he wanted off, my point being i reckon they are saying by putting it on the website is to auction him off, man city barca, milan to drive the price up, and we should, i deffo think he will be gone by monday, 40 mill and adam johnson, anyways fellow reds keep your head up , no one bigger than the club
frankyscouser

{Editor Note: Apparantly there's more to it. Carragher and Gerrard being bullies.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:09:54
Sell torres buy llorente and a class winger?

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29 Jan 2011 13:08:19
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Just a question for people who have seen alot of Suarez play. I've seen Aguero a fair bit and he's fantastic but Luis seems a little on the small side. If we bought Aguero to replace Torres, could he play alongisde Suarez or are they too similar?

Moongoose

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29 Jan 2011 13:07:54
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Torres - we all stuck by you over the past 12 months or so when you've been injured/ crap/ uninterested.

Do us a favour? Shut your mouth. Put a shift in between now and the summer and then we'll all wave you off. . as we welcome 2 -3 players who want to wear the red shirt.

Frenchy.

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29 Jan 2011 13:07:42
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Maybe but if he delivers the goal's i don't think he would be so much of a problem, didn't he do really well under mourinho and didn't kick up too much about being shifted to the wing under him {ed's note - yes but at Inter he didn't have to worry about the ego of Gerrard overshadowing him. Eto'o was the main man, even playing out of position. I think it is telling that Jose was desperate for a striker at Madrid but never made any attempt to look at Eto'o.}

Fair point i suppose he doesn't really take players with him though does he. He didn't take any chelsea players with him either to inter or Real but i take on your point cheers mate.

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29 Jan 2011 13:06:54
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Ed wat are the chances of finding a suitable replacement for torres shud he go in these nxt few days?
or do u think liverpool are already working on it shud tht sitauation arise?
bigred

{Editor Note: Suarez will have to act as a replacement.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:06:40
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I refuse to believe Torres wants out because of a falling out with team members. If this were true he would not betray the club by trying to get a move to Chelsea, one of our biggest rivals! Surely he'd just ask for a move back to Spain.

There are two possible reasons he wants away. Either he's been offered ridiculous money by the Russian and feels he should take it as he genuinely believes Liverpool are going nowhere. Or his agent has told him to do it to see if we'll offer him a new, huge contract!

I think it mote likely the 1st reason as if he wanted a better contract I believe he'd have just asked for one. Whatever his reason, I have lost so much respect for him. I really thought he loved the club and never thought he'd put us in this position knowing full well the situation of rebuilding we are in at the moment.

If he doesn't want to play for us anymore then fine but we can not sell to Chelsea, because we can't be seen as a club that sells to our rivals! I'd rather get £30mil for him from a foreign team than £50mil from Chelsea or Man City.

If he came out and said he wants to stay I'd be delighted but I can't see it happening. Whatever happens fernando, if you leave Liverpool, you will never again experience the passion, support, love and loyalty that you got from our fans!

Redfish

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29 Jan 2011 13:06:28
The whole Torres thing can be read in a two different ways.
1. (I pray) he was giving the club a push to get their money out. Wishfull thinking?
2.He knows any chance we've got of winning the league/ Champions League is a couple of seasons away so offski.

I think we all kind of feared this was coming in the summer anyway, I just hoped it would be then and to a team in Spain or Italy. I don't think it means he doesn't love the club, but remember he left his home town club to play for us to win things and we havn't. Surely we cannot be surprised that he could do the same thing to us. I'm sad about this, but it doesn't compare to Gerrard almost leaving for Chelsea - I'm a grown man with kids but I didn't sleep for a week during that saga.

I honestly don't think we will leave this weekend, and who knows he might click with our new lad - win the Uefa cup, get fourth or fifth place - and this will tempt him to stay. But this is part of the modern game now, Gerrard to Chelsea, Terry almost went to City, Tevez to City, Rooney theatening to leave United, Fabregas' on/ off move to Barca. That's how it is.

Who knows, a big transfer fee might do us good so we can go sign two or three great new players, eg. Rush paid for Barnes, Aldridge and Beardsley and made us arguably better. 50/ 60 mill for a player who probably isn't going to get any better for us and was never going to stay forever anyway - it's not as if he's going to going to end his career here and retire to Knotty Ash with his spanish wife and kids is it? Just prepare your head for his exit either sooner or later.

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29 Jan 2011 13:03:48
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Why does torres want to leave, he must realise he will never have what he has here anywhere else, except for athletico, so my opinion,
straight swap, torres for aguero

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I woke up this morning (in Australia) to this news, and thought it was a bit of muck raking by the press to spark up the end of a fairly dour transfer window, imagine my surprise later in the day to discover that he had handed in a transfer request!

I think the reason he wants out is to do with the Champions League, naturally he wants to play in it and it is going to be a massive push for us to get into it for next season, and will need results for other teams to go our way. .

The problem is, Chelsea have looked like they could be on the wane (desperately needing a defender, not a striker!), the squad has aged badly and could slide out of the CL places themselves. . Oh how ironic it would be if spurs jumped them into the CL places and ended up in the EL with us next year. . or better yet, we ended up in the CL at thier expense!

However, I've spend the last few hours reading between the lines. .

I must confess, despite being happy to see the club fork out some good money on a player who is known world wide, I was seriously concerned as to how Suarez and Torres were going to play in the same team together. Maybe the club has suspected this may actually be a possiblity for some time and have started to cover their bases. They also have Torres over a barrel regarding his comments of being committed to the club and his love of the fans, those with haunt him now. .

The only question is who will replace him?

We desperately need a second striker, but I think we need a quality player who is happy to play second fiddle to Suarez, i'd be looking in the 10-15mil bracket. .

Assuming we get around 50m, and adding the 6mil received for Babel, I would suggest that 10 of the Torres money would go towards a "replacement" striker, but the other 40m will go towards a winger and a truely creative player. . maybe look at Sneijder? or perhaps Honda, Turan or Adam Johnson. .

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29 Jan 2011 13:03:34
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TO WHOEVER SAID "If torres says he wants to go because of verbal intimidation get rid of the person doing it, if that is sg so be it"

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Totally agree! I have heard, through a close friend of PR, that SG thinks he can do and say what he wants at the club and he is p**sing a lot of players off - after all, he did have a lot to do with getting rid of Rafa.

Everyone is saying "get rid of him - no one player is bigger than the club". If this is the case and it is SG/ JC who are instigating this, then get rid! Money we could get for SG, even at 30, could get us a decent playmaker in midfield.

Am a LFC fan through and through and will support the club in whatever decision they make re: Torres, but I just feel that this would cause a mass exodus of some of our top non-english players in the summer if certain individuals are not brought down to earth with a bump!

Also, I don't think this is a way of Torres getting more money from the club. He just wants to win things, which is what every professional footballer wants to do. However, I do think that Chelski are trying to unsettle him before our game next weekend.

By the way Ed - fantastic site even though you have to put up with some s**t from certain people!

Keep the faith!

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29 Jan 2011 13:03:24
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LMFAO!
I knew you wouldn't post my opinion. Why can I ask did you not? don't you have the spine to post something that has been said against you? maybe we should all lick your balls as you do with Macca. lol
Jay

{Editor Note: We are editing and posting perhaps 100 posts at a time. I'm sure it will appear somewhere. Scroll down like everyone else.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:03:19
Liverpool Rumours
Torres will go by the end of the deadline. There was birthday a party for a certain individual close to the club (not Carragher) recently which a friend of mine, who works for the club, attended. With alcohol flowing talk was rife about Torres and it has been a known fact for a while within the club that he would be leaving. Apparently he was made promises, don't know what they were, when Woy was in charge that have not been kept. Liverpool have publicly announced his intention to leave to start a bidding war to generate as much money as possible. Targets are in place, don't know who, Nando should see 2 or 3 new faces coming through the door as he leaves.
It is also a fact that some players feel that Gerrard has too much influence on and off the pitch. It's a situation Kenny is aware of, is monitoring and won't let ruin the club.

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29 Jan 2011 13:01:18
29 Jan 2011 11:41:15
Liverpool Rumours
Just a thought Torres could play against us in a weeks time! !
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I no its sickening i wrongly believed he loved liverpool like he loved atletico
Im watching everton chelsea now and i am very sorry to say but i can already see fernando linking up with the cocky s**ts that think they are everything and untouchable
Going to chelsea would be the end of the torres love at liverpool

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29 Jan 2011 12:59:49
Praying for a Everton win today(Shankly forgive me), as this will show Torres how far Chelsea has fallen with their aging squad. Come on Everton- - Chelsea be doomed!

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29 Jan 2011 12:59:10
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed just wondering what you think of falcao he seems to have been under the radar of everyone and i think he is a very good player also didn't aguero have his buyout clause lowered in his new contract maybe something there

{Editor Note: Don't know much about him.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:57:52
Liverpool Rumours
If torres wants out then in my eyes there is only 1 club we should be talkin to and that's real madrid . say alonso and benzema straight swap . i know torres says he'll never go there but he also said he'll never go anywhere else in england so hes a lying c. t .
if he wants out he goes to the highest bidder

would you take that deal ed ?

trev d

{Editor Note: Torres won't go to Real Madrid.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:57:39
Liverpool Rumours
Good afternoon Eds and fellow LFC fans,

Today is a great day, as I along with many others said - we told you so! !

Torres will hopefully stay, but if he wants to go, let him! Eds did Torres req transfer or his agent? ?

Oh what could be done with £50 - 60 mil, Lukaku, Turan, Hazard & Honda, Sakhou in defence, with money from other player sales, Torres sale and a tiny input from NESV we could buy ALL these. Eds am I dreaming or do you think the numbers add up to these players? Possible?

Of course, one big problem. . If we sold Torres for that money, the world will know which would raise the fee for any players we bid for! Agree Eds?

Many thanks Eds, look forward to see what you think.

Bazzaa

{Editor Note: I'm sure it was Torres who requested it.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:57:12
The biggest mistake liverpool have made was not selling Gerrard for 50 million when they had the chance.

We have spent years trying to accomodate him, he can't play off one striker any more(pace gone), he can't form a central midfield partnership and he can't play on wing.

Gerrard was a great player but its a long time and a lot of goals not scored since we can afford to continue to accomodate a spent force.

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29 Jan 2011 12:56:24
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, do you think the silence from Torres is a definate sign that he wants out or do you think he's been told to stay out of the press until lfc make an official statement about him wanting to leave? With the Rooney and Tevez situations they both came out themselves and said they wanted out, with his comments two weeks ago, the signing or Suarez and appointment of KK it just doesn't add up. Cheers mate.

{Editor Note: I'm not sure.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:55:08
Liverpool Rumours
Will Suarez be given a number OR does he get to choose from the untaken numbers ED-please answer it really bugging me.

{Editor Note: How do I know?}

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29 Jan 2011 13:09:54
Sell torres buy llorente and a class winger?

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29 Jan 2011 13:08:19
Liverpool Rumours
Just a question for people who have seen alot of Suarez play. I've seen Aguero a fair bit and he's fantastic but Luis seems a little on the small side. If we bought Aguero to replace Torres, could he play alongisde Suarez or are they too similar?

Moongoose

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29 Jan 2011 13:07:54
Liverpool Rumours
Torres - we all stuck by you over the past 12 months or so when you've been injured/ crap/ uninterested.

Do us a favour? Shut your mouth. Put a shift in between now and the summer and then we'll all wave you off. . as we welcome 2 -3 players who want to wear the red shirt.

Frenchy.

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29 Jan 2011 13:06:14
I would piss my pants with laughter if Torres jumped ship and we won the Europa league, if he is seriuos about a move let him go, i know it's hard, i have a young lad who has Torres on everything, no-way his getting a chelsea shirt though!, but cash in now on buy the 2/ 3 players that have been banded around by everyone.
Go and join the shower of over aged, over payed, pile of sh@te.
Good luck and good riddence

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29 Jan 2011 13:05:45
Hi Ed
posted earlier about Torres i said about Sturridge coming the other way + £60m just rather have him than an ageing Anelka.Can the F A step into this as Liverpool have stated that Torres is not for sale, are they allowed to keep coming back with better offers or is this a form of poaching. {ed's note - they are allowed to keep bidding, there is nothing to stop them bidding for any player.}

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29 Jan 2011 13:03:48
Liverpool Rumours
Why does torres want to leave, he must realise he will never have what he has here anywhere else, except for athletico, so my opinion,
straight swap, torres for aguero

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I woke up this morning (in Australia) to this news, and thought it was a bit of muck raking by the press to spark up the end of a fairly dour transfer window, imagine my surprise later in the day to discover that he had handed in a transfer request!

I think the reason he wants out is to do with the Champions League, naturally he wants to play in it and it is going to be a massive push for us to get into it for next season, and will need results for other teams to go our way. .

The problem is, Chelsea have looked like they could be on the wane (desperately needing a defender, not a striker!), the squad has aged badly and could slide out of the CL places themselves. . Oh how ironic it would be if spurs jumped them into the CL places and ended up in the EL with us next year. . or better yet, we ended up in the CL at thier expense!

However, I've spend the last few hours reading between the lines. .

I must confess, despite being happy to see the club fork out some good money on a player who is known world wide, I was seriously concerned as to how Suarez and Torres were going to play in the same team together. Maybe the club has suspected this may actually be a possiblity for some time and have started to cover their bases. They also have Torres over a barrel regarding his comments of being committed to the club and his love of the fans, those with haunt him now. .

The only question is who will replace him?

We desperately need a second striker, but I think we need a quality player who is happy to play second fiddle to Suarez, i'd be looking in the 10-15mil bracket. .

Assuming we get around 50m, and adding the 6mil received for Babel, I would suggest that 10 of the Torres money would go towards a "replacement" striker, but the other 40m will go towards a winger and a truely creative player. . maybe look at Sneijder? or perhaps Honda, Turan or Adam Johnson. .

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29 Jan 2011 13:03:34
Liverpool Rumours
TO WHOEVER SAID "If torres says he wants to go because of verbal intimidation get rid of the person doing it, if that is sg so be it"

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Totally agree! I have heard, through a close friend of PR, that SG thinks he can do and say what he wants at the club and he is p**sing a lot of players off - after all, he did have a lot to do with getting rid of Rafa.

Everyone is saying "get rid of him - no one player is bigger than the club". If this is the case and it is SG/ JC who are instigating this, then get rid! Money we could get for SG, even at 30, could get us a decent playmaker in midfield.

Am a LFC fan through and through and will support the club in whatever decision they make re: Torres, but I just feel that this would cause a mass exodus of some of our top non-english players in the summer if certain individuals are not brought down to earth with a bump!

Also, I don't think this is a way of Torres getting more money from the club. He just wants to win things, which is what every professional footballer wants to do. However, I do think that Chelski are trying to unsettle him before our game next weekend.

By the way Ed - fantastic site even though you have to put up with some s**t from certain people!

Keep the faith!

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29 Jan 2011 13:01:18
29 Jan 2011 11:41:15
Liverpool Rumours
Just a thought Torres could play against us in a weeks time! !
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I no its sickening i wrongly believed he loved liverpool like he loved atletico
Im watching everton chelsea now and i am very sorry to say but i can already see fernando linking up with the cocky s**ts that think they are everything and untouchable
Going to chelsea would be the end of the torres love at liverpool

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29 Jan 2011 13:01:08
Let Torres go. Bring in Hulk & Honda.

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29 Jan 2011 12:59:49
Praying for a Everton win today(Shankly forgive me), as this will show Torres how far Chelsea has fallen with their aging squad. Come on Everton- - Chelsea be doomed!

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29 Jan 2011 12:59:10
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed just wondering what you think of falcao he seems to have been under the radar of everyone and i think he is a very good player also didn't aguero have his buyout clause lowered in his new contract maybe something there {ed's note - Falcao would do if he was a decent price.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:57:12
The biggest mistake liverpool have made was not selling Gerrard for 50 million when they had the chance.

We have spent years trying to accomodate him, he can't play off one striker any more(pace gone), he can't form a central midfield partnership and he can't play on wing.

Gerrard was a great player but its a long time and a lot of goals not scored since we can afford to continue to accomodate a spent force.

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29 Jan 2011 12:22:57
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, if torres does stay what do you think he can do to win back the fans? {ed's note - score goals.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:20:08
Get him out now u don't treat liverpool like that we aint like them manc teams who beg players 2 stay

kopbeck

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29 Jan 2011 12:53:58
Liverpool Rumours
If Torres wants to leave, then LFC should get rid of him as soon as they can.
Having a player of his quality in the squad can bring down tram morale if he is unhappy and not satisified with playing for that team.

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29 Jan 2011 12:53:48
Liverpool Rumours
29 Jan 2011 11:53:03
Liverpool Rumours
ED : Where did this story of verbal intimidation come from? I have read through the post's from last night and today and see certain names have been mentioned but, I can't find where the story originated from. {ed's note - I think it was the BBC that reported it originally.}

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It was the telegraph ed and bbc reposted it under the paper talk section

C.H

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29 Jan 2011 12:53:27
Liverpool Rumours
I posted something earlier about going for an experienced striker - like a Forlan or Klose, but it hasn't been put up. It seems from other posters that Diego Forlan would be reasonable option for a lot of people. It would be good for Suarez to have a compatriot alongside him on and off the pitch, and Forlan has something to prove to the Premiership. I also think he would cost around £10-15m, Athletico are in financial trouble and could do with the money - but they've rejected bids for Aguero. If we could get either of their strikers, i think we would be better off with Suarez and Forlan/ Aguero than just Torres. If it is a £50m bid which gets Torres, the potential to sign two world class players with that money. I would love to see Forlan, Mata and Honda or Turan brought with the £50m were likely to get. The squad would look a lot better without Torres if that was the case
RedSG

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29 Jan 2011 12:50:20
Liverpool Rumours
I think its a shame that Torres wants 2 go but tbh he's injured a lot, hasnt been brilliant this season and for £40 million or possibly more i say we should let him go.
Ideal situation would b if he went 2 a club abroad like atletico and we did a deal to bring back aguero in return. Also if we don't sign another player (if torres goes) then we could b in for a difficult time cus we don't have any brilliant wingers left.
Great site eds keep up the gd work :)

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29 Jan 2011 12:49:27
Liverpool Rumours
To be honest yesterday I didn't want Torres to go. .but now I do. . .his attidude stinks and his behaviour is disgraceful. His head hasn't been in it this season it was so obvious he didn't want to be here. Anyone who doesn't want to play for the most succesfull club in England can go. ., we don't want them here. What we need in these struggling times is loyalty and players who actually want to play for the club. He came out and said he is stayin 3 weeks ago, funny how things can change so quickly. So Mr. Torres if you don't want to be here the fans don't want you. You support Liverpool and you are leaving to one of our worst rivals just for a bit extra money. Lets face it, you're not going to win trophies because Chelsea aren't exactly doing well. Us fans have adored you since you came here, sang your name when you were playing badly. So the way you have treated us is absolutely disgracful. Good riddance!

Taunton96

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29 Jan 2011 12:48:33
I hope we don't but if we sell him, there is one way abromvich could be punished sell him to city , Chelsea would be screwed and certainly won't get anywhere near the prem this season with that ageing squad and he prob wouldn't get aguero in the summer, I wouldn't be suprisef if this was why aguero hadn't already joined them, they probably gave a plan to get Torres now and aguero later.

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29 Jan 2011 12:48:13
Liverpool Rumours
"For a player to be good enough to play for Liverpool, he must be prepared
to run through a brick wall for me then come out fighting on the other side."


"Liverpool was made for me and I was made for Liverpool."

Bill Shankley
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If Torres dosent understand what Liverpool is then let him go.

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29 Jan 2011 12:44:10
Liverpool Rumours
ANYONE REMEMBER?
some one posted on here from huyton he said he was on the ale with paul gerrard, stevens dad(probibly in the alleys) and said we were buying in jan but one big transfer OUT of the club was going to happen, and it was not steven,
i remember it well, and it looks like he was spot on, i personally feel insulted by torres attitude, a lot of posters have said he is not happy and dosent want to be here, boy were they right'
the owners said when they bought the club they would not keep unhappy players,
i would sell torres and move on, every time we take a step forward something holds us back we should not let any player hold us back, bob paisleys skids

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29 Jan 2011 12:44:08
Liverpool Rumours
I really hope that Torres is just holding out for an improved wage packet, but I still think everything would be better off without him. If we got Aguero/ Llorente in as his replacement we'd have a strike force to rival Real and Barca in terms of ability. Plus, the money received from the transfer (£50-60m) would go towards the transfer funds for the next three years, so while even the top clubs will only be able to spend around £25-30m worth of players a year, we could have the ability to spend £40m+ on players every year.
Either way, we shouldn't sell Torres to Chelsea. If he has the cheek to turn so quickly on the fans that have idolised him for 3 years, then he shouldn't be allowed go to his first choice. Sell him to Italy, so that we'll never hear of him again and he can enjoy getting knocked out in the CL Round of 16 every year.

Martin

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29 Jan 2011 12:43:49
Liverpool Rumours
Feel sorry for Suarez. Torres' selfish attitude has put a dampener on his arrival.

Ed- Do you actually think there is a chance we could sign Aguero before the deadline?

{Editor Note: No.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:42:47
Torres can't be sold without a full-time manager as all managers want their own players and a transfer budget so he will stay until that is sorted in the summer at least.

If it's true and he wants to move to the graveyard at Stamford bridge then we should insist yuri zhirkov is in the deal we do need a player of this quality anywhere on the left

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29 Jan 2011 12:42:47
Liverpool Rumours
No player is bigger than Liverpool FC, so if Torres wants to leave i say let him leave. We will have no problem replacing him so if we get offered £50M+, we should be biting Chelsea's arm off!
With the money we should be looking to sign any of the following:
Honda
Aguero (Longshot, but i don't see why not to annoy Chelsea!)
LLorente
Anelka (As part of the deal)
YNWA - ps. what do you think of this ed?

{Editor Note: Would suit me.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:42:05
Torres will regret it when John Terry is nailing his wife.

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29 Jan 2011 12:40:47
Liverpool Rumours
Do u think torres is off because he wanted or was promised aguero instead of suraez.
i just cannot get my head round this unless he wants more money or more acction from the yanks.
why now why so late in the window he must know we won't sell this late and chelsea are only looking to him cause everyone else said no way.

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29 Jan 2011 12:40:10
Kenny and Commoli arrived very early this morning at Anfield, they have a long day of discussions for what to do with Nando.
I reckon he'll go - £40m - and we will bid for Fernando Llorente - $30m euros (£25.7m) in this window, he can play the lone striker very well, Suarez cannot.
There is NO ONE else who comes near Nando's quality available right now, if he's not agreed to join Real, I say go for it there's nothing to lose.

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29 Jan 2011 12:40:06
Liverpool Rumours
Don't normally post on this great site - and apologies for not producing a rumour - but I just want to comment these fast-spreading rumours about the "verbal intimidation" of Torres.

The only mention I've seen of it was on the BBC Rumours page in a link to a Telegraph article. However the actual article didn't mention it at all and in replying to my query about the BBC link, Rory Smith, the Telegraph sports journalist said: "yeah, saw that. Weird. Think it's a tired internet monkey uploading the wrong thing." Since then it has been removed altogether from the BBC site.

I'm not saying it's not true (maybe there are other sources) but it would be a shame if we turned on Gerrard and Carra (as well as Torres!) as a result of a misquote!

YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 12:36:25
Liverpool Rumours
Just my opinion but if Torres wants to go let him. use this weekend to see if we can get Aguero by activating his clause, then if its possible take the £50m plus Sturridge as back up. money left try Turan or Honada. that would prob take up the 50m and with selling Babel we've only spent £15m which would be covered by the money from Aquaman in the summer.

Team

Reina
Kelly Agger Skertl Johnson
Gerrard Merieles
Saurez Turan/ Honda
Aguero

Sign a worldclass left back in the summer and decent squad players. Remember no players bigger than the club. Let the king work his magic.

YNWA Scots Scouse

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29 Jan 2011 12:35:09
Forget that s**mbag Torres, welcome our new arrival Suarez hope he sets the EPL on fire, would love aguero if we sold Nando

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29 Jan 2011 12:35:05
Liverpool Rumours
I have been hearing that the latest Torres flap is more about his irreperable relationship with Gerrard rather than the direction of the club. Juts curious what everyone else thinks.

Gerrard is the reason - Believable

CL Football - Unbelievable

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29 Jan 2011 12:33:32
Liverpool Rumours
The Armband proved he was a RED Suarez Suarez youll never walk alone it said Suarez Suarez he got the band from some lad in Spain Tall, Blonde Hair, Forgot his name Luis Suarez Liverpools Number 9

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29 Jan 2011 12:32:49
I am pretty sure FT has been happier with KK and does love LFC. Something must have happened to really p**s him off. All the speculation but where is bloody LFC.TV with an exclusive interview to get the truth? And I hope Nando is honest.

If the issue is with Stevie/ Carra as I suspect, then something must be changed and clicks broken.

Pity Nando seems to have no spine by running away instead of fighting to fix the problem. Perhaps he realises he has no chance against the click?

Ed, does anyone have real info?

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29 Jan 2011 12:31:40
Before we all go off and write off Torres lets just a moment to reflect on whats happened.

Torres has been given some very poor advice from someone and he has done something, which he is probably already regretting.

He has gone from being idolised by all liverpool fans to a position which is probably even worse than that of Michael Owen.

Remember what happened when Owen left? Everyone was gutted and hurt by his actions and he has had to pay the price of scorn and derision ever since.

BUT. . . . . . we won the European Cup the following season while Michael Owen watched it on TV at home! !

I would prefer it if the liverpool supporters followed our own songs advice . . . . . .YNWA.

Torres is currently in a very dark place and we have to give him some assurance that he will never walk alone through this storm. We need to stand by him and then see what his actions are. If he still wants to leave. . . . . . then we have no option but to wish him well but severe our support for him.

Nando we want you to change your mind and if you do we will get right back behind you again as we did with Stevie G. . . . . . .YNWA

Tel1949

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29 Jan 2011 12:31:36
Liverpool Rumours
As it stands we're in the driving seat with torres as he's under contract so i reckon we should give chelsea a deadline of midnight tonight to pay £60m cash and insert a clause that torres can never play against us, with that money plus what the owners will make avaialable we should sign aguero £38 or £39m whatever the buyout is offer £25m for sanchez, £4m for taiwo to get him now rather than wait and £13 for elia, i know we've just agreed £23 for suarez but with the £6m from babel that's only an outlay of £37m, i know it seems alot for january but spending that much now i feel would guarantee european football next season and come the summer time with the aquillani money coming in all we'll need is a couple of decent centre halfs to replace carra and skrtel, would do you eds and others think.
Paul

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29 Jan 2011 12:31:36
Liverpool Rumours
Ed. I am devasted by the news of torres' transfer request. This is the second blow to me in a week's time. My first love-my girl friend, had a break up with her. And my 2nd love fernando turns his back to us and me! There is no loyalty in this world any more. I for one thought fernando like stevie was an embodiment of love, passion and loyalty to this legendary club.
But nando has broken my heart.
With kenny back, I thought he would forge a successful partnership with nando to get us back to our rightful place.
What could the reason be ed? So late in the window?
In my opinion he should raise his hand and say I was one among a liverpool team who underplayed . Okay he had his injuries, but all season he has looked disinterested. Had he given his all and then yet we had been in this position, then his request is justified. But he has been poor and has no business complaining.
It is highly unprofessional of him. And to move to an aging chelsea squad leaving anfield? Has he forgotten the fact that no where in the world will he witness the ''bounce''? Or the torres song? Even the spain national team wouldn't stick with him during his tough times the way liverpool fans do . And he is bound to incur the wrath of all me us if he leaves us in our toughest times. I for one will burn my 3 torres jerseys . I loved him even before he came to liverpool. But liverpool is bigger to me.
But I will forever miss el nino. He could have been the next legend at anfield for the simple fact that he would have helped a dead liverpool team rise through the ashes .
Pls tell me something that could keep torres here ed. I think he wouldn't leave this window. But that's not enough for me. I want him to experience a new life with the quality he was askin for-luis suarez-a player similar to david villa. I wish he enjoys it and continues here for years to come. I wish he leads liverpool to top 6, this year, wins us silverware-europa league(chelsea don't seem to be in any position to win anything).
As long as he stays, I would forgive him .
Pls say something positive ed . Which will
Make my shattered heart feel better. Breathtaking PHOENIX
Red for life!

{Editor Note: It's hard to say anything positive.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:29:56
Liverpool Rumours
I'm still in shock, posted yesterday adamant that Torres would not go to Chelsea, how wrong was I. I think the Ed is correct, if he wants to go that badly and would be prepared to kick some fans in the teeth and move to Chelsea, especially half way through the season, we have to get rid. Best policy I believe would be to refuse any move in Jan (he will play as well as he can I believe) and see who else comes in with a bid in the summer. We should try to avoid letting him move to a competitior if possible, big mistake that!

laylandiai

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29 Jan 2011 12:29:56
Liverpool Rumours
I have just been told from a mate that torres has headed back to spain for a few days. If this is true then I doubt he will be leaving seeing as chelsea are in town today playing the blue s***e. I think if he really wanted to go then why not stay and sort a deal out in person. This now coinsides with the fact that he supposedly handed in a request on THURSDAY, 24hrs before we sign SUAREZ. I think it was a threat to the board and no more, but unfortunately it has some how leaked out about his request. I for one don't believe that chelsea actually want to sign nando and are using the same SHI**Y tactics of unsettling players as they have done for yrs and nando doesn't really want to leave.
wishful thinking maybe or some truth in there. time will tell.
feedback and comments will be appreciated

over and out

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29 Jan 2011 12:26:54
Liverpool Rumours
Hey Ed, what are your thoughts on the Torres saga?
I believe we should make hims tay untilt he summer and sell him high, now hes scoring again.
That would also give him the opportunity to build a partnership with Suarez, which may sway his mind, if indeed there is truth to it all.

Do you have any info on this ed?

Andy

{Editor Note: Gutted, disappointed, angry.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:26:38
Liverpool Rumours
My opinion only but tell Chelsea we want £60m plus Sturridge & McEachan who are excellent English prospects. If they want Torres enough they'll take it. We then have the cash to get players like Young, Wickham, , Adam plus a marquee attacking player on the wing if there is one. As a club, Torres going would enable LFC to get some young predominantly British players in and gives us a serious prospect of challenging next year.

The Clown Kopite

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29 Jan 2011 12:26:34
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, where do you think Suarez will play for us?

{Editor Note: He can play in 4 positions. So anyone's guess.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:23:53
Liverpool Rumours
Ed do think Aguero would join if torres was to leave? Was it Liverpool fc or torres he wanted to play with.
Liverpool (believable) - torres (unbelievable).

{Editor Note: I'm sure Aguero would join.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:22:57
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Ed, if torres does stay what do you think he can do to win back the fans?

{Editor Note: Maybe some. But certainly not me following some of his comments. And the fact that he loved Liverpool FC and the city last week only to drop this on us this week.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:21:09
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Rooney did not hand in a transfer request though

{Editor Note: He asked to leave the club. Same thing.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:20:08
Get him out now u don't treat liverpool like that we aint like them manc teams who beg players 2 stay

kopbeck

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29 Jan 2011 12:19:56
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This situation with Torres is like a mirror image of when Gerrard NEARLY left Liverpool. REMEMBER when Gerrard was linked with Chelsea, REMEMBER when HE also put in a transfer request and Liverpool ACCEPTED it - REMEMBER when he couldnt leave because of the passion for the club and the fans he had for them and we had for him. The same situation is now for Torres. Lets beg him to stay because without him we will be worse off. When Gerrard decided to stay it was such a great feeling and was the RIGHT decision. The same would be said for Torres. It just does not feel right him wanting to go. Something is so not right.

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29 Jan 2011 12:19:04
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Can anyone tell me what number Suarez will be 11 or 7 I've heard?

His armband proved he was a red Suarez Suarez

You'll never walk alone it said Suarez Suarez

He bought the band from a lad in spain

Tall blonde hair Forgotten his name

Luis Suarez Liverpool's number 9

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29 Jan 2011 12:16:45
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Hi guys,

my source is a member of the first team coaching staff, can't name who for obvious reasons.

As for the whole 'verbal intimidation' quote, as far as I am aware he didn't say this, it is simply The Telegraph stirring things up.

C.H

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29 Jan 2011 12:15:58
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29 Jan 2011 11:20:02
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Can anyone tell me what number Suarez will be 11 or 7 I've heard? Cheers jodethered

Number 9 I reckon.

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29 Jan 2011 12:15:32
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Hi ed , do you know when suarez is having his medical?

cheers , trev

{Editor Note: He's arrived today, so probably today.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:13:18
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{ed's note - I think this is the same situation as Gerrard, a deal has been done before Chelsea ever bid for him.}

does that mean chelsea have "tapped up" torres ed?

{Editor Note: Could we prove it though?}

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29 Jan 2011 12:12:52
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I question torres timing? is he doing a rooney coz of the money he may of been offerd? or is he pushing nesv to buy big? (chelsea already singing he is their no9) thank god we have KK at this time he will sort him out or show him the gate !

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29 Jan 2011 12:12:29
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If torres want to leave (which he does) let him but no less than 50 million or anelka plus cash, we should then try n sign agueros or Llorente or maybe crouch who is not in the same class but as proven himself at anfied before and will want to play here.

Also still think we need a fast skillful winger some like adam johnson and a good solid center back to partner agger as skrtel aint good enough n carrager is gettin 2 old but would be good 2 av in the squad 2 cover players gettin injuried a bit like sami did near the end of his liverpool days

Just hope torres leaving will not have an affect on reina as he as been are best player for 2 years.

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29 Jan 2011 12:12:29
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Stop critisising(typo? ) Torres. really
Stop saying be loyal this that, if he is unhappy he should go , you might not remember this but this football is also just a f***ing job. . When where unhappy at our job we have the right to look for anything else. and so do footballers. Let him be and don't blame him .

diO.

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29 Jan 2011 12:12:13
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Please can someone tell me why Torres has fallen out with Gerrard and Carra? Without Carra in the team we have lacked organisation at the back. Without Gerrard in the team we lack a driving force in midfield who can also pick out a pass to open up a defence.
For me personally if Torres was to go i would be gutted, even when he has'nt seemed up for it this season the fans have stuck by him and treat him as a LFC legend.
If he signs for Chelsea and plays against us in 2 weeks i don't think many LFC fans could watch.
On a positive note i was delighted we signed Suarez, i really think he will be a great signing. I just hope he gets his wish and plays up front with Torres
If Honda and Charlie Adam come in before deadline day i really think we will have a chance to push further up the league, maybe top 4! !

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29 Jan 2011 12:10:52
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Sell Torres - who needs him? Not us he doesn't even sore any goals, get the 50 mill and hopefully Anelka (yes please) and buy Lukaku and Ganso and Ramos as he wants away from Barca!


Ramos playes for Madrid! :/

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29 Jan 2011 12:09:46
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Just a thought, if Liverpool had not signed Suarez, do you think Torres would of stayed until the summer.
Redeyedhector

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29 Jan 2011 12:09:32
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I have to say if it was something to with gerrard giving torres verbal abuse. Better that than being on the end of one his crunching tackles. Watch your back nando you will find out soon enough.

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29 Jan 2011 12:07:45
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Fernando. if you want to leave just say so yourself. lfc have a tv station. if you don't just say so. lfc have a tv station. not only are you letting EVERY liverpool fan down, but also yourself! sort it out. ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 12:07:08
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After a few hours to reflect, if the boy wants to go then let him go, but we can't be left short up fron for the rest of the season.
We should take exactly the same stance the Ferguson did with Ronaldo, yes you can have him but on our terms.

£50 million and Anelka. .

The Booter

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29 Jan 2011 12:06:54
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Ed, do you think that if Torres does leave, this could influence our best player to leave. . Reina?
P.S. Great site

{Editor Note: Last I heard was that Reina is committed.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:06:53
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I think 45 mil pounds + a.cole
that would solve our lb problem
so we can play glen.j on the right wing

the money could be used to bring in K.Aguero and get Llorente
wat say ed

{Editor Note: £45m plus Cashley Cole will never happen. And I wouldn't want A.Cole near our club.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:05:24
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Ed I'm just wondering when the next "stage" of this saga is going to commence? If Liverpool were actually thinking bout letting Torres go wouldn't it have to be today so we can strengthen up our squad?

Love the site and remember Kopites YNWA

{Editor Note: Probably when Chelsea make another bid for him.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:04:09
Listen, can everyone stop having a go at Stevie G and Carra, they have done nothing wrong.

Torres has not wanted to be there for a long time, the reason they fell out with him is because they could not believe how bad his attitude was.

Did not turn up to team bonding sessions.
Was not interested in training.
Was not trying during matches.

Come on all lets all stop trying to blame everyone else when it is clear he has not wanted to be there for a while.

Lets just get rid and start building for the future.

Also you must now realise that i am not making it up.

He will go to Chelsea.

Macca

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29 Jan 2011 12:03:36
Remember when Fernando came to us and whatever defenders did to him he just bounced off them and continued through to goal - and scored. Compare that with the last 12 months where he has been intimidated and shackled by defenders only for him to stop working, give up on the ball or even give away needless free kicks through petulant tackles. He's not been the same Nando we all came to idolise so could it be time to move on and for this great club to revitalise its team with the funds from his sale. We all know this transfer window is the worst time to make wholesale changes and the club should make him stay until the summer then see what they can get if and when a bidding war is started. The CLUB decides when and for how much a player is sold, not the player or his agent. Could it also be that Nando is no longer being top dog with the arrival of Suarez? Whatever happens in the next few days the interests of the CLUB come first, second and always.

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29 Jan 2011 12:01:38
ED , do you know if we will have a replacement for torres in this window?? please post :) {ed's note - we already have one in Suarez.}

yes but i don't think he can fill torres boots .
i just can't imagine a liverpool team without fernando torres . :( so im gonna guess you don't know if we have a replacement lined up in case he does go! !
if you were to rate his chances of going out of 10 were would you put him ed? ?

{Editor Note: He'll go now.}

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29 Jan 2011 12:01:01
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Haven't Rooney and Tevez already put in transfer request this season didn't Gerrard do if 5 years ago? ?. . He aint gone yet stay positive
He can be talked out of Chelsea they may have a sugar daddy who can throw money about but they don't have a big stadium and no plans or thought to expand or re-build. The squad is ageing they have had 6 managers since Abramavic took over in 2004 and no doubt a new one next season if Ancholoti wins nothing this season

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29 Jan 2011 12:00:07
Alonso most certainly did not run. He was being pushed when Rafa went after that waste of space Barry. Tell me this would you stay in a job if you knew your boss wanted rid of you ?

I've done it for 20 years and seen two of the b******s off!

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29 Jan 2011 12:00:05
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Hi eds gr8 site I was up all lst nite finkin bout torres leaving and was rather unhappy 2 say the least so I decided to watch alot of suarez highlights as like most I have seen little of him bt now I do no more and to say I'm happy is an understatement he truly is awesome all round play I have to say is better than nando for sure and his finishing is also lethal and my question to u guys is would there b any chance of us getting huntelaar as wow they would b formiddable together thanx ed
long live LFC

{Editor Note: We would have better options than Huntelaar.}

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29 Jan 2011 11:59:41
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29 Jan 2011 10:53:20
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It is going to be similiar to the Rooney, Tevez cases, don't worry

They did not hand in written requests to leave? He has

He wants to play for Chelsea, he has put it in writing.
Its on LFC website

we won't sell him till summer and then bid from man city will come in, and liverpool if its bigger than chelsea will say yes to city and if chlesea can't match man citys then they say no to chelsea, and tlell torres its either city or stay put simple as

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29 Jan 2011 11:59:25
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Hi All

Like may other people on this site we are back in a similar situation to Macca'man and Owen. If he want to go then let the boy leave! !

Say we get £50M then use the money to re-build the team.

1. Turan
2. Honda
3. Left back
4. Hazard (if he does not go to Arsenal)
5. Mid-fielder

Unless we are finding our self's in a similar situation to the Rooney episode, just want more money and a new contract?? ?

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29 Jan 2011 11:59:08
We won't sell Torres and reinvest the money unless KK has been given the job full-time too big a decision as a new manager may not want the players bought with the millions generated by the sale or may entice Torres to stay. I think he will stay till summer and only be sold once manager position resolved if he goes now I think it's a sign KK is staying and would welcome Torres departure due to this.

Only Llorente can replace him for me pos Lukaku for future we should be looking to bring in Honda regardless.

Also feel Suarez should receive a huge cheer on his signing as Torres has pissed on his picnic with this request very disrespectful

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29 Jan 2011 11:58:47
O.k, nando wants a move away, but we are in a good position with him.he still has a long term contract and nesv will realise that by keeping him till the summer will open up a bidding war between chelsea, city, inter, maybe barca and ac milan.even real might throw there hat in the ring.this will get us the best deal for the club so we can build a squad to challange for the title.if we could get say 60 mil we could buy a top centre half [10 mil]left back [15 mil]and a world class winger and striker.obviously nesv would have to add to the 60 mil so let say they make 30 mil available, how much better would we be come august, with suarez settled in and maybe adam this window.the dark clouds look a little brighter if you look at it this way.we are liverpool football club, and we will rise again!YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 12:12:29
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If torres want to leave (which he does) let him but no less than 50 million or anelka plus cash, we should then try n sign agueros or Llorente or maybe crouch who is not in the same class but as proven himself at anfied before and will want to play here.

Also still think we need a fast skillful winger some like adam johnson and a good solid center back to partner agger as skrtel aint good enough n carrager is gettin 2 old but would be good 2 av in the squad 2 cover players gettin injuried a bit like sami did near the end of his liverpool days

Just hope torres leaving will not have an affect on reina as he as been are best player for 2 years.

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29 Jan 2011 12:10:52
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Sell Torres - who needs him? Not us he doesn't even sore any goals, get the 50 mill and hopefully Anelka (yes please) and buy Lukaku and Ganso and Ramos as he wants away from Barca!


Ramos playes for Madrid! :/

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29 Jan 2011 12:10:44
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SELLING CLUB.
Glory years are gone.
Your plastic supporters have started to desert.
Giro pool are no longer a threat.

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29 Jan 2011 12:09:47
Torres has arrived at Goodison, security provided by Chelsea fc.

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29 Jan 2011 12:09:32
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I have to say if it was something to with gerrard giving torres verbal abuse. Better that than being on the end of one his crunching tackles. Watch your back nando you will find out soon enough.

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29 Jan 2011 12:07:45
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Fernando. if you want to leave just say so yourself. lfc have a tv station. if you don't just say so. lfc have a tv station. not only are you letting EVERY liverpool fan down, but also yourself! sort it out. ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 12:07:08
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After a few hours to reflect, if the boy wants to go then let him go, but we can't be left short up fron for the rest of the season.
We should take exactly the same stance the Ferguson did with Ronaldo, yes you can have him but on our terms.

£50 million and Anelka. .

The Booter

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29 Jan 2011 12:05:31
Ok, so we're gonna have to accept that Torres is leaving. We need to be practical. First, try and get a bidding war started and preferebly encourage Torres to move to a team abroad (offer him back to Atletico as a swap for Forlan and Aguero.
Second, as much for maintaining our aurra, tradition and reputation, we must be big and applaud Nando generously - if the instance arises whereby he turns out for Chelski against us.
Third, at this stage in the season we need to assimilate a new forward line as quick as possible - after Saurez another young rising star settling in would be too difficujt.
So get Anelka in as part of any deal and buy Saurez's strike-partner for Uraguay, the previous mentioned Forlan. And have a good amount of cash left over (say 40 mill approx) for further buys to improve the team.
You'll Never Move-on Alone

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29 Jan 2011 12:03:56
Unless chelaes go mad and offer someone like essien or a player of that ilk then torres is going nowhere till the summer. then let barca, madrid n co have a real bidding war for him.

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29 Jan 2011 12:03:36
Remember when Fernando came to us and whatever defenders did to him he just bounced off them and continued through to goal - and scored. Compare that with the last 12 months where he has been intimidated and shackled by defenders only for him to stop working, give up on the ball or even give away needless free kicks through petulant tackles. He's not been the same Nando we all came to idolise so could it be time to move on and for this great club to revitalise its team with the funds from his sale. We all know this transfer window is the worst time to make wholesale changes and the club should make him stay until the summer then see what they can get if and when a bidding war is started. The CLUB decides when and for how much a player is sold, not the player or his agent. Could it also be that Nando is no longer being top dog with the arrival of Suarez? Whatever happens in the next few days the interests of the CLUB come first, second and always.

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29 Jan 2011 12:00:07
Alonso most certainly did not run. He was being pushed when Rafa went after that waste of space Barry. Tell me this would you stay in a job if you knew your boss wanted rid of you ?

I've done it for 20 years and seen two of the b******s off!

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29 Jan 2011 11:59:25
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Hi All

Like may other people on this site we are back in a similar situation to Macca'man and Owen. If he want to go then let the boy leave! !

Say we get £50M then use the money to re-build the team.

1. Turan
2. Honda
3. Left back
4. Hazard (if he does not go to Arsenal)
5. Mid-fielder

Unless we are finding our self's in a similar situation to the Rooney episode, just want more money and a new contract?? ?

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29 Jan 2011 11:59:08
We won't sell Torres and reinvest the money unless KK has been given the job full-time too big a decision as a new manager may not want the players bought with the millions generated by the sale or may entice Torres to stay. I think he will stay till summer and only be sold once manager position resolved if he goes now I think it's a sign KK is staying and would welcome Torres departure due to this.

Only Llorente can replace him for me pos Lukaku for future we should be looking to bring in Honda regardless.

Also feel Suarez should receive a huge cheer on his signing as Torres has pissed on his picnic with this request very disrespectful

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29 Jan 2011 11:58:29
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Will everyone stop slag in Torres off he has done wonders for us without him we these past few years would have been f***ed
I don't blame him he left as he is one of the best strikers in the world and desirves to be winning medals

Would love him to stay to the summer and then see what he ants to do after playing up top with luis

Thanks for thereat site ed
Mustifer

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29 Jan 2011 11:57:29
Anybody think cee lo greens song 'forget you' is a perfect song to match the whole torres saga? ? what about you ed? ? {ed's note - I wish I could forget the whole thing, kind of hard when I am answering hundreds of questions about it!!}

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29 Jan 2011 11:56:50
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Lads im shocked.i can understand he wants a move but to Chelsea wow i didn't see it coming , it just doesn't make sense because of all his talk about how he felt about the club and towards us we live in a superficial world im really thinking about canceling my sky sports tv not because sky was broadcasting the news but i do feel that we as consumers have a played a part in how footballers now have no real empathy with fans and we done so by letting sky, the fa, and the media create the Juggernaut that is the premiership now i don't come from Liverpool but i feel for those of you that buy season tickets and have done so for ever like your fathers before you. I really feel disillusioned not with the club but with the players who claim to be just a ordinary guy who got a break, what I say is get your head out of your arse be straight with yourself then you can be straining with us

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29 Jan 2011 11:56:45
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I th?nk we need to prepare ourselves for some ser?ous bus?ness over the next few days. If Torres leaves, we w?ll have a m?n?mum of £50m to spend. I am certa?n that a move for Arda Turan or Ke?suke Honda w?ll be made - they f?ts all the cr?ter?a. I also th?nk an exper?enced str?ker should be s?gned, wh?ch goes aga?nst NESV's ?deas for s?gn?ngs, but necessary I feel. Someone l?ke D?ego Forlan or M?roslav Klose could be looked at - an exper?enced head to lead the l?ne, and ?f he Torres goes to Chelsea- I would want N?c Anelka not Danny Sturr?dge.
In a dream world I would spend the £50m on Mata(25m), Forlan(12m) and Honda or Turan(12m)
RedSG

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29 Jan 2011 11:53:53
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I feel a little gutted by the Torres story, but it's not the end of the world. Throughout the clubs history we have lost great players, but LFC have always gone on. As Shanks said "No one is bigger than the club"
we replaced the unreplacable Kevin Keegan with a little known Scottish striker!
Like true LFC fans we need to thank Torres for his service and move on, but we shouldn't be held to ransom we let him go on our terms. If it works out that FT was verbally abused, that's also not acceptable and the culprits should hold their hands up.

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29 Jan 2011 11:51:34
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Liverpools becoming a. .do u want the good news or bad news club. . .SICKENING

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29 Jan 2011 11:49:31
SSN now saying Liverpool expect Torres to stay

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29 Jan 2011 11:48:56
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In fact, besides the world cup with Spain, Torres has actually won nothing
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what about that european cup final he scored the winner in?

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29 Jan 2011 11:46:24
What number do you think luis suarez will take. .?

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29 Jan 2011 11:45:56
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Right so Torres goes for £50m & Sturridge.

with that £50m (maybe few extra £s aswell!) we could get Honda, Llorente & Young.

add in to that Meireles, Gerrard, Maxi, Kuyt, Pacheco & Suso. that's not bad attacking options.

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29 Jan 2011 11:45:08
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Liddell - Hunt - St. John - Keegan - Dalglish - Rush - Aldridge - Rush - Fowler - Owen - Torres. . . . . . . . . Throughout history Liverpool have always moved on and produced another legend! If he stays am pleased if he goes, there is always a new hero.

James Mc

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29 Jan 2011 11:41:49
We are set to lose Torres and we will struggle to get Europa league so drop the Aguero stuff top World class players wouldn't touch us with a barge pole now. So we have to have faith in Kenny to build us up slowly again.

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29 Jan 2011 11:41:15
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Just a thought Torres could play against us in a weeks time! ! !

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29 Jan 2011 11:40:33
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Gutted like most at the speculation flying around regards FT, but we are Liverpool we have struggled before and come through this. With or without him we will fight on.Heads up Lads, lassies this season is far from over. . .YNWA Robo

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29 Jan 2011 11:39:57
Fernando have a word with Micheal Owen he'll tell you how green the grass is on the other side of the hill.

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29 Jan 2011 11:38:45
I agree with RED PADDY - Gerrard, is, has been and always will be an immense player in Liverpools history, when on song he is ONE of the best this club has ever had - the problem is, his on song days, when you look back over the 500 odd games he's played for us are not as many as people think - he has had more stinkers than crackers, it's just we almost remember the great games.

Would be gutted if he ever left the club - but would he get in a midfield with Graeme Souness, Terry Mac and Ray Kennedy - we'll never know.

I was lucky enough to watch Willie Stevenson, Gordon Milne, Callaghan, Roger Hunt, Ian St John and many more- can't put Gerrard much above any of them in their influence on LFC - and the best player I've ever seen in a red shirt since 1959 - DALGLISH of course.


John B

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29 Jan 2011 11:38:09
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Funny how the last 24 hours (and reading the posts on here) has given me a bit of clarity. As LFC fans we have spent the last few seasons thinking we have the world's best striker playing for us. Not true. Not even the Prem League's best striker (stats say it has been Drogba). In not one season did he score more than everyone else. But we all know he's still a deadly finisher - but is he as good as we thought?
A lot of the love that we have for him stems from his perceived undying loyalty - from his YNWA arm band to statements that he would never play for another PL team - and that he could produce a moment of magic at crucial times. This season he has shown neither and so why should we care if one good striker leaves when we have bought another in his place. The mystique surrounding Torres has, for me at least, been shattered and if we can seriously get over 40m for an injury-prone, sulking, middle-years striker, albeit occasionally untouchable (when he can be arsed). . I think we should bite Roman Abramovich's hand off.
Looking forward to a new era with Suarez et al (and hopefully beating Chelski to a Champions League spot).

Cozinoz

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29 Jan 2011 11:36:46
Can everyone please stop the Stevie G and Carra baiting! Cant believe what Im reading. These two and KK are the life blood of our club.

Outreageous from some Reds! Ever seen those two sulking on the pitch the way Torres has this season?!

Support the Anfield Two! Hit Agree. . . .

RG {ed's note - did you not watch Gerrard play last season?}

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29 Jan 2011 11:36:11
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Torres saga

Chelsea are being cheeky I think we should say ok 45 million and Drogba and watch the Russian con man have a coronary.

LFC1

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29 Jan 2011 11:35:56
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Why does everyone want Anelka in the Torres deal? He is 31 years old so we'll only have him for 2-3 years at most! !

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29 Jan 2011 11:33:41
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It seems like most of us are gutted, but are willing to let Torres go if he wants to. Lets face it, he hasn't set the world on fire since his poor world cup. Maybe 50/ 60 million is a great deal for someone who isn't in the fantastic form he showed in his first season with the reds? BUT i'd rather he went abroad than to Chelsea - surely Barca would love to have him and Villa together? anyway, let's use the money wisely and bring in Honda, a decent winger, and one from Llorente, Aguero, Lakakakkuku (sorry lol), or perhaps try and nab Benzema ?
Rebuild, end the season on a good run and see what next season brings. .
formerly the mighty Fernando, now Super Suarez

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29 Jan 2011 11:28:00
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I feel sorry for suarez in this bitter-sweet moment the atention should be on us geting him an its what we have been waiting for now hes here nando steels the thunder.
what would be great is to buy aguero llorente or cole(joke) and keap torres till summmer and in the mean time tell torres ''this is your replacement but only if you still want to leave if not here is another striker for ya!''
im not old enuff to witness the kings magic but right now we need him to do a harry potter an turn the spaniards head back towards anfield c'mon kenny!

square tomato

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29 Jan 2011 11:27:22
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Torres wants to go? Well good riddance.Anyone else who wants to leave can too in my opinion.

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29 Jan 2011 11:27:21
Hi

As it seems like Torres is possibly on his way to chelsea but as a LFC fan we need to think about LFC rather than Torres .Im sure if Torres did move we would receive around £50 Million. this could be spent is right way to add quality players and only player i can think is likely to join in current transfer window is Hoarou for around 8-10 Mill and Honda for 13-15 Mill, add Charlie Adam for 7-8 Mill which i believe would give diffrent options to us such as holding/ physical foward as Hoarou and creative player like Honda who could possibly operate in all around midfield/ forward positions and great passer in Adam. We will have better option than having only Torres. I see this as wake up call not to rely on 1-2 players for success and build whole team. In summer we can build from that. Loads of players we can look in summer for players such as Turan/ Gervinho/ Mvilla/ Navas/ Cazrola/ Mata/ Hulk/ Banega/ Santon/ Douglas Costa/ Mathias Fredrico/ Ola Toivonen/ Pastore/ Pablo Hernandez and list goes on. . LFC for life

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29 Jan 2011 11:26:58
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Let Torres go I don't know about anyone else but i don't want to pay money to turn up and see a player that isn't playing for the shirt and the fans. Unless we can do a U-turn let him go! Could try do a deal for Mikel and Malouda, if not get Young in and Lorente/ Aguero. This could be the end of an era, the start of the rebuilding process, if we could get another young player in the mould of torres, that's fine by me, with the spending money we could heavily invest in the summer because on top of the torres money we have NESV's money that we're willing to invest

God

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29 Jan 2011 11:26:28
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Oh luissss suarezzzzzzzzzz hes better than torres he forced his way from ajax to liverpool!
Now we get goals galore
he'll break terrrys jawwwwwwwww
dont take my luis away!

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29 Jan 2011 11:25:04
Will people stop making songs about Torres going to chelsea! My bet is that it won't happen and if he does move it won't be until the summer.
Show your support for the team instead of spending all your time slagging off one of our best players!

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29 Jan 2011 11:23:30
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Well bit gutted but he ho, life goes on. If he want's to go let him, on a good day he is world class, on a bad day average at best. The new owner's have pledged money and they have with the signing of Suarez with more to come so a big thanks to them, just think of the player's we can buy with all that money possibles to replace him Llorente, Hulk, Auguero, Honda Turan etc etc. . remember when Rush left everyone was gutted then in come Beardsley, Barnes and Aldridge and we went on to win titles under Kenny. He is a wiley old fox KK and I trust him 100 % it's not the end my friends, just the begining. .

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29 Jan 2011 11:23:28
We bought the lad to replace Torres,
Suarez, Suarez,
Armbands don't prove you are a red, Torres,
Suarez,
You'll never walk alone it said,
Suarez, Suarez,
Luis Suarez Liverpools number. .

K3

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29 Jan 2011 11:19:41
So Torres wants to go - let him go we all know he has no future with us now - how can he have.
with the money go out now and get Forlan, Suarez and Forlan together would be ideal, know each others game, played together before, work very well together.
not sure how much Forlan would cost 15m to 20m also get Turan with the money from Torres and don't take no for an answer get them NOW
that gives them 4 months and a pre season to gel and if we fnish outside europe placings so be it this was always a transistional season any way. come august with a little tweeking ie a left back, new centre back and have an all out assault on the league next year not distracted by any european football with players that have aalready settled in.
and if i was the board i would encourage Citeh to enter the bidding for torres raising the price in an auction coz as far as i can see chelsea have already agreed personal terms with him and that means an illegal approach .
i feel suarez is a good signing and would have been brilliant with torres but that aint gonna happen now - the kop is still here and we will have a new hero to worship as we did when keegan left, when dalglish finished, when rushie left, when aldo left, when fowler left no one is bigger than this club and its supporters and no one loves a hero more than the liverpool fans so who will lose out - torres going to a team with no history, an ageing team with no youth system and a club with no soul. this is stamford bridge so what we are LIVERPOOL a club renown throughout the world as a club of fine tradition with the respect of every other major club in the world who respect the history and the fans of this great club - so go play for a soul less , historyless club because you have sold your soul to the highest bidder and made your agent a very very rich man - good choice nando and goodbye

bigg2966

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great post , and i agree totally - some of you may have missed it as it was posted at 01:20 ish

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29 Jan 2011 11:18:54
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Can't believe the reaction, everyone saying **** off Torres. . chelsea have a $hit fans. . .no loyalty blah. . blah.
Are we any better when we treat one of our players like this when we don't even know the full story behind it, I was gutted after I heard the request had been made by Torres.
I wasn't worried at all when I heard chelsea had bid for him.

Could be a perfectly good and loyal reason for his transfer request, If we don't know don't judge just yet wait, I really want him to stay and I hope it's a tactical transfer request, to force owners for get transfers sorted (suarez, adam, honda), better contract with liverpool, etc.

It just doesn't make sense to wait till the last couple of days of transfer window to do this, I like Torres and don't believe he would **** us over and leave us in the $hit like this.

I wouldn't be suprised if he did want to leave now after some of the comments I have read last night and this morning over most of the liverpool sites.

Just wait till we know more.

Good news is Suarez just pulled up at anfield for medical - SSN.

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29 Jan 2011 11:18:19
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I'd take 40m plus the Russian left back and maybe sturridge
Or 60m

In A Sanchez 22m best winger in the world pure class
C Adam 8m
Honda 12m

We mite lose Torres but our team would be alot stonger

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29 Jan 2011 11:17:51
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Morning ed . best all round situation tell nando to stay for the rest of season then if he still feels the same he can join any club he wants .but i would bet it is not chelsea as they won't be in champs league. then the bidding war starts and i think barca will win with £40 million plus players .cheers psv elnino {ed's note - do you not think it would be better to get rid and get someone who wants to play for us instead?}

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29 Jan 2011 11:16:58
I have heard that Torres said that he had been 'verbally intimidated' ed do you know if he is refering to fans comments or sombody inside the club.
Also has Suarez agreed personal terms and signed with liverpool and if he hasnt do you think the Torres news will put him off coming to the club {ed's note - it seems to be from within the club.}

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29 Jan 2011 11:16:47
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If there is a £50 mill release cause for the summer then let it be envied in the summer, but tell him that we will only sell him to a club from abroad, I.e. Barcelona and not to another perm club. That way we can get some cash plus players and get another striker in.

Although having said that I would prefer that he makes a statement to stay! What a unsettled season, will be glad when it is over.

Realred

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29 Jan 2011 11:14:50
If Torres wants to go, Torres should go. I'm not angry and saddened because we can't replace him, but because I had never expected this off a player and, I mean this genuinely, a person such as him. He must have a real reason, but it still hurts.
Ed, thoughts?
EyeSak {ed's note - to be honest I just think his attitude shows we are better off without. We need players who will stand up and be counted when the going gets tough, not sulk and then demand a transfer.}

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29 Jan 2011 11:14:44
ED , do you know if we will have a replacement for torres in this window? ? please post :) {ed's note - we already have one in Suarez.}

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29 Jan 2011 11:14:14
{ed's note - personally I think Gerrard has too much power within the club, I think that needs to be curtailed and him brought back down to earth.}

I agree with you 100% on this Ed. I've being saying it for years. Gerrard takes all the free kick, penalties and corners and if another player fancies their chances he pushes them off the ball. Most of the time his corners don't even beat the first post. I still think Gerrard is a quality player but the club need to pull in the reins on him. I'm not a Gerrard hater, I just think that all the players should have a defined roll in the team but he seems to want all the rolls. If the other members of the squad aren't giving free kick duties etc surely this would damage team moral and player confidence. In my opinion it would cause the other players to recent Gerrard.

I'd also like to make a couple of points on the Torres situation.

1. I've read that it looks like Torres wants to leave because he has falling out with Carra and Gerrard because they've being getting on this back over his pre King Kenny poor performances. To be honest he deserves stick for those performances. I think he needs to man up and take it on the chin and start putting in the performances we all know he capable of.

2. Apparently Torres has said we've no ambition and we're not good enough to win anything. Surely he has an obligation to put in a proper preformance week in week out. His early season performances where SH**E. He just strolled around the pitch and then sulked when things didn't go his way. Hardly the qualities of a player with a hunger for trophies.

I've love him to stay and rediscover his best form but if he's dead set on going then I think we should cash in, but we should milk every penny we can. If his heart is not at LFC anymore then we will only see more of the sulking and sh**e performances.

AT THE END OF THE THE STORM IS A GOLDEN SKY! ! YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE.

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29 Jan 2011 11:13:26
Why are we not accepting 45 mil plus sturridge, have any of you seen sturridge play, he has the abilty to be a 20 million pound player in a few years, he scored 5 against spurs reserves who had 5 first team squad players in that game. with the money we can invest in the squad with another striker, winger, Adam and a CB. If we are going to accept a deal do it now so we can still bring more players in {ed's note - Sturridge is a walking attitude problem who is unlikely to ever be top class.}

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29 Jan 2011 11:13:17
Time for LFC to grow a pair and tell him he is going nowhere. I'm sick and tired of our top players running when the going gets tough. Alonso and Mascherano most notably.

Alonso most certainly did not run. He was being pushed when Rafa went after that waste of space Barry. Tell me this would you stay in a job if you knew your boss wanted rid of you ?

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29 Jan 2011 11:10:42
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Whats with everyone bagging carra and gerrard i'm sorry but i think people need to wake up and realise torres had chucked in the towel and its not up to stevie and carra to take the blame. cmon everyone keep it together!

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29 Jan 2011 11:10:24
I would take £50 mill for torres and a left back what do you think ed From dan h {ed's note - Chelsea certainly have a few of them to choose from, I wouldn't say no to Van Aanholt, would also like Anelka.}

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29 Jan 2011 11:08:31
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Why is everyone so bothered by Torres leaving?
Control your emotions.

If you look at the last 12months. It started with him planning an operation to get himself fit for the world cup (2 or 3 months out of LFC team). Poor world cup. Injured again. Post world cup Depression. Recent return to a little form.

LFC have fully supported Torres through this bad time and still paid him his £100k+ per week wages.

Torres (and some others) don't love LFC in the same way we do, they love money!

Take £45m now. Then calm down and choose the right players in the summer.

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29 Jan 2011 11:05:43
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I would rather sell him to barca for 35 million than let him go to chelsea for 40 odd

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29 Jan 2011 11:04:37
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I can't believe how much rubbish you guys are dishing out against Carra and Stevie, you should all be ashamed of yourselves. Their attitude towards LFC is exactly what we need from every player, so when they see a player not giving 110%, I think as local lads they are perfectly within their rights to say something (if this actually happened).

Now with KK onboard we have even more passion and desire to win in the changing room and we should all be getting behind them.

If Torres wants to go, fine but it must be on our terms and we should look to re-invest in "passionate" players who will die for LFC. In my opinion Suarez is that kind of player, so watch him rip it up in the Prem for the mighty Reds.

Whatever will be will be and we should start trusting the owners, the manager and the players, as we are LFC, not some tin pot club from West London or a no mark side from Manchester.

Come on the Red Men

Richy Red

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29 Jan 2011 10:51:06
Maybe I'm putting two and two together and getting five, but, Torres's standout game for me this season was against chavski, and he's only been playing well since the return of dalglish, or has he? The transfer window opened just after dalglish was appointed, just a theory, what ever the reasons as much as he Is a joy to watch and an amazing footballer if he wants to leave he needs to, best thing for both parties involved.

Ynwa

Lfc matt

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29 Jan 2011 10:50:41
Lets not get on the Carra is a rock at the back.He moves slightly quicker than a rock, can turn a wee bit more than a rock.He can pull players shirts off their back, which a rock can't do. I have never heard a rock talk, nevermind scream abuse at team mates or physio's. Carra has never been a Rock.He as been an Evertonian though.So he has the same amount of brain cells as a rock.

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29 Jan 2011 10:49:35
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We bought the lad to replace Torres,
Suarez Suarez,
Armbands don't prove you are a red,
Suarez Suarez,
He gets the ball, he scores again,
Luis Suarez, Liverpools number . . . .

Just thought of this this morning. K3

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29 Jan 2011 10:49:33
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Re "FORCE TORRES TO STAY" calls.
I cannot agree. If he is unhappy we have seen how he performs so he is of little value to the team. No player is bigger than the club so if he wants to go so be it. . we will survive. Just get as much for him as we can hopefully from abroad and use it wisely. The thing that worries me about the whole thing is the rumours of verbal abuse possibly from fellow players. IF this is true then the culprits are unsettling for the rest of their teammates and should be brought down to earth by KK or got rid of. Personally I think the rest of the team plays better when Sg is not on the pitch and wonder if this is the problem. I agree with one of the eds that he has always been too arrogant for his own good believing the hype about himself. I suspect he may be near his sell by date as well so he should be careful what he wishes for IF he is the casue of Nando wishing to leave. SG would be like a fish out of water abroad or at most of the other big EPL clubs as he would not be the main man. Remember Rushy - "Juventus felt like being in a foreign country" or something similar.

My worry is that IF Nando goes then Pepe may want to too. . .bring on SHay Given. {ed's note - Rush never said that, Dalglish said it about Rush as a joke.}

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29 Jan 2011 11:02:34
Lets face it lads, torres is a gonner. If he does not want to be here it makes perfect sense to spark a bidding war and hopefully get 50mil+for him. The money can then buy two world class players and we'll have a very impressive squad. i would hate for him to stay now, i thought he was made from better stuff, BUT its not the end of the world, it could be the start of a new very successfull era! keep the faith guys!

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29 Jan 2011 11:02:11
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If we wait 'til the summer, I believe that either Kenny can motivate Nando to stay, or we can have over 60M for him. . Probably from City or Barca.

IN GERRARD WE TRUST

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29 Jan 2011 11:01:40
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If we can wrangle Honda & Turan whilst keeping FT, I'd be a happy little camper!

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29 Jan 2011 11:00:12
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I think if chelsea get torres wel get anelka plus 40 million . . also i think wel sign lukaka with the money. . cuz i don't think chelsea will want him after they get torres. . i can also see chelsea signing aguero during the summer

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29 Jan 2011 10:58:55
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29 Jan 2011 10:19:15
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Eds, someone. .

Can someone who knows clear this up please.

Chelsea offer 40m + sturridge, and its rejected, i then read that he DOES have a clause for 50m but that kicks in at the end of the season, so is the clause correct and if so we shouldnt settle for less than the 50m surely if he is to go this window, i say if it is correct re the 50m clause then keep him until the summer, he is under contract afterall

Chris {ed's note - nobody knows for sure about the clause, but I think it is highly unlikely to be true. Either way I think he has burnt his bridges with his sulking and transfer request and needs to go for the good of the club.}


IF there is a clause, it's probably more likely that it 'kicks in' in the Summer.
£50M + Anelka and let's bring an end to his ongoing petulance.

Odd how players take a bigger slice of the financial pie through ever increasing salary demands and then expect the club to still have the finances available to commit 10s of millions to several new signings.

Chelsea's situation with their ageing squad is not dissimilar to ours. We'll pass you on the way up, Fernando. Hope you enjoy having Rafa as your boss again soon.

Tes

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29 Jan 2011 10:58:12
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ED, do you think that suarez is just Torres replacement and it's always been that way. Fernando as been granted a move in the summer but somehow this as been leaked making Chelsea jump at the chance now to tie a deal up rather than getting into a bidding war in the summer?

If Chelsea really want him then why are Sturridge/ Anelka being touted? do we really want or need either of them. Why don't the club tell em £30m plus Malouda, a wide player we need!

Personally i would like a bid for Adam Johnson, we know what he can do and proven in PL, two decent wide men and then all out for Llorente, big man, little man partnership!

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29 Jan 2011 10:56:14
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Liverpool FC have already complied a list of players who they would have liked to partner torres upfront inquireries were made in january about availability price etc. . . suarez was the outcome that list still excists.
liverpool would be in a great position to replace torres with either a loan till summer or permanant deal. . . . not sure who is on the list but lead to think its players such as.

traore fc cluj
negredo
llorente
PLus others who have been linked to club this window.

personally would like liverpool to take ibrahimovic on loan or loan to purchase cavani from plalermo currently on loan at napoli what you think ed's.

torres out! lied to fans and blames NESV for breaking promises? ?? ?? ?? ?

{editor: I have never rated Ibrahimovic.}

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29 Jan 2011 10:55:44
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Surely Man City will bid for Torres if there is any chance he will leave LFC? They can outbid Chelsea on any amount.

If he's handed in a transfer request then he can go for the right amount - he's been out of sorts all season and keeping him against his will isn't going to make him any better. Good player but cash in now, LFC will still exist without him.

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29 Jan 2011 10:53:20
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Can someone who knows clear this up please.

Chelsea offer 40m + sturridge, and its rejected, i then read that he DOES have a clause for 50m but that kicks in at the end of the season, so is the clause correct and if so we shouldnt settle for less than the 50m surely if he is to go this window, i say if it is correct re the 50m clause then keep him until the summer, he is under contract afterall

Chris {ed's note - nobody knows for sure about the clause, but I think it is highly unlikely to be true. Either way I think he has burnt his bridges with his sulking and transfer request and needs to go for the good of the club.}

one point 2005 Gerrard

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29 Jan 2011 10:52:36
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29 Jan 2011 10:19:15
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Eds, someone. .

Can someone who knows clear this up please.

Chelsea offer 40m + sturridge, and its rejected, i then read that he DOES have a clause for 50m but that kicks in at the end of the season, so is the clause correct and if so we shouldnt settle for less than the 50m surely if he is to go this window, i say if it is correct re the 50m clause then keep him until the summer, he is under contract afterall

Chris {ed's note - nobody knows for sure about the clause, but I think it is highly unlikely to be true. Either way I think he has burnt his bridges with his sulking and transfer request and needs to go for the good of the club.}

i agree ED, we should tell chelsea, 40 mill plus kalou or malouda and then use the 40 mill to activate aguero's transfer release clause.

{editor: Not Kalou!}

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29 Jan 2011 10:52:05
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IF WE CAN GET £50MILL THEN LET HIM GO, NO 1 PLAYER IS BIGGER THAN THE MIGHTY REDS.HE HAS A BAD 1ST TOUCH, AND VERY MOODY, GET RID, USE £25MILL ON ANDY CARROLL, HIM UP FRONT WITH SUAREZ, PERFECT, COME ON AND TELL ME WHAT YOU ALL THINK
CORNISH SCOUSER

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29 Jan 2011 10:50:41
Lets not get on the Carra is a rock at the back.He moves slightly quicker than a rock, can turn a wee bit more than a rock.He can pull players shirts off their back, which a rock can't do. I have never heard a rock talk, nevermind scream abuse at team mates or physio's. Carra has never been a Rock.He as been an Evertonian though.So he has the same amount of brain cells as a rock.

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29 Jan 2011 10:50:34
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Request Tevez + 20m for Torres from city, 50m+ from chelsea, all in the summer, then sign Llorente, Turan and Coentrao. Hopeful, but wud be great.

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29 Jan 2011 10:50:12
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29 Jan 2011 10:11:55
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Just been informed by a close source, that Torres will sign a new contract by Tuesday to end the rumours.
I know its by Tuesday, but it will happen, I've not had this confirmed but it might be by Tuesday so we can keep this as a smoke screen.
It is going to be similiar to the Rooney, Tevez cases, don't worry.

Remember Torres will sign a new contract by Tuesday.

C.H

Hallelujah! Who is your source, I won't be let down by some chelski brat trying to f**k us with useless hope any more!

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29 Jan 2011 10:49:35
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We bought the lad to replace Torres,
Suarez Suarez,
Armbands don't prove you are a red,
Suarez Suarez,
He gets the ball, he scores again,
Luis Suarez, Liverpools number . . . .

Just thought of this this morning. K3

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29 Jan 2011 10:49:33
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Re "FORCE TORRES TO STAY" calls.
I cannot agree. If he is unhappy we have seen how he performs so he is of little value to the team. No player is bigger than the club so if he wants to go so be it. . we will survive. Just get as much for him as we can hopefully from abroad and use it wisely. The thing that worries me about the whole thing is the rumours of verbal abuse possibly from fellow players. IF this is true then the culprits are unsettling for the rest of their teammates and should be brought down to earth by KK or got rid of. Personally I think the rest of the team plays better when Sg is not on the pitch and wonder if this is the problem. I agree with one of the eds that he has always been too arrogant for his own good believing the hype about himself. I suspect he may be near his sell by date as well so he should be careful what he wishes for IF he is the casue of Nando wishing to leave. SG would be like a fish out of water abroad or at most of the other big EPL clubs as he would not be the main man. Remember Rushy - "Juventus felt like being in a foreign country" or something similar.

My worry is that IF Nando goes then Pepe may want to too. . .bring on SHay Given.

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29 Jan 2011 10:49:23
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The Trinity Mirror group sold that rag in 1969.

The rag is owned ultimately by News Corporation, via News GroupNewspapers and News International.

As for the rest of your rant, I wouldn't get into the habit of believing what the 'popular' media tell you in this country.

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29 Jan 2011 10:48:44
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Mixed emotions for me over the Torres saga. Like most would say, if he's not happy then let him go. I don't think that this would be the right option for us though. I don't think there has been a fall out, i just think Torres has become disillusioned with Liverpool and our clubs potential for success. It's going to take another season of consolidation and squad re-building until we have a competitive team again and i think that Torres realises this. Even then there is no guarantee that we will be competing for the major titles, so that's probably why he see's this transfer window as an opportunity to get out and move to a club that WILL be challenging for the big prizes. However, he is under a long term contract and personally i feel that the owners should reject any advances for Nando, and Kenny should tell him to knuckle down, act like a professional and get on with the business of scoring goals for Liverpool FC. You have to remember that Torres is the most prolific striker in the Premier League. Who will replace him? Honestly, could 2 quality strikers create a prolific partnership to rival Nando's goal scoring prowess? No! Make him stay, sign Suarez and have a class strike partnership that includes Torres. NESV will get things right for us, they will provide funds over the next 12 months and we will strengthen the squad. If the team starts moving in the right direction and start looking dangerous again then Nando will have a change of heart, he will see that he is at a club that will match his ambitions. Remember that we let Xabi Alonso and Arbeloa go and we went backwards. Then we let Mascherano go and lost our bite in midfield, who can see us moving forward without Torres? You could use the money from his sale to buy big but remember this, Fernando would be playing for Chelsea/ Man City. How would we expect to out compete them and win titles ahead of them if they had the best goalscorer that the premier league has seen in recent years? Imagine that sick feeling in your stomach if Nando returned as a player for another club and demolished us on the pitch. Make him stay! But if he was to go, then don't let him remain in the Premier League, sell him abroad, even if a club abroad is'nt offering the same money as ChelskiHurstinho

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29 Jan 2011 10:48:04
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Torres owes the club nothing Liverpool are sime
His employer, and people change employers all the time, if anybody on here is old enough to remember when Dalglish or Rush left you will also remember that back in those days it was fine to want to further your carear.

And we were a better team after he went in 1987 Fine. .get him sold then £40m+

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29 Jan 2011 10:47:02
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If torres leaves forlan to go with suarez what do you think ed?

{editor: Forlan, no, he is too old. Llorente? Yes please.}

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29 Jan 2011 10:46:23
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Its no big deal, if he wants out then let him go. We've acquired a great striker in Suarez, lets get Anelka into the equation along with £45M and we can further strengthen our squad.

If he doesn't want LFC, then LFC don't want him.

I love it when the papers come out with crap like
'he's been continually let down by the club in a lack of investment'. Who do these players think they are, FT has still been paid his £120,000 p/ w. Imagine all of us stormed into our bosses office and told him we weren't happy with the way his company was doing its business, by the time we'd finished speaking our p45's would have hit us in the face.

The same as Masch, you've been a great player for us, but your not bigger than LFC. You will recieve more money no doubt, but you will never replicate the support or idolisation you once had at Liverpool, thanks for nothing Nando

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29 Jan 2011 10:46:23
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This is a bad day, no denying that. But let's look at the league table - the scummers are currently sat pretty at the top and none of us really thought they would move on and be this competitive (even if they are rubbish) without Ronaldo; but there they are. With the right signings to compliment a system & the squad (Honda, Turan & Cahill) we can move forward; although I doubt moves like this would come to fruition until the summer.

What I don't get is the ambition in a move to Chelsea - they are very close to a full rebuilding period and we are closer to them than they are Man U (points wise). It would be hillarious if we put a run together and finished above them.

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29 Jan 2011 10:46:12
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Bit of hopeful thinking here.
But is it a coincidence the money we get for Torres could be enough for aguero's buyout clause. We need a replacement, it'll be hard to fill his boots. . Well not so much this year anyway. I don't mind him going anymore now, just wish it was to a club abroad. I.e barca.

Honda will be a good signing if we get him, let's just hope suarez doesn't change his mind coz Torres might not be there

Sean ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 10:46:10
Liverpool Rumours
Anyone else feel like NESV are in a catch 22 situation? If they sell a clearly unhappy player the conspiracy theorists will jump to the conclusion that they'd planned it all along and that Suarez was a cheaper replacement. If on the other hand they remain resolute in order to prove they will not be dictated to by players we'll likely have an even more half-arsed Torres on our hands.

The best we were likely hoping for this year was a high Europa place, so why not start the rebuilding process a little earlier, the rest of the squad is more than capable of attaining 5/ 6th and we'll have more money to get some quality wide players.

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29 Jan 2011 10:46:00
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Lads we have the most important asset on the books and that is kd, so if torres wants to go, let him and make sure we get the best deal possible for him, kenny stated he would have come back to any squad, transfers or no transfers and i think this could be a blessing so we get someone who has the desire to play for the red shirt and look forward to play with an exciting centre foward in luis suarez, good times are ahead for LFC under king kenny, So goodbye torres and best of luck at the prems nursing home.

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29 Jan 2011 10:45:24
Liverpool Rumours
Gutted but if Torres wants to go then fine but on our terms. Since NESV came in we don't have any debt so don't need to sell so we decide what his price is .Tell Chelsea and Torres our Price is £65m meet it u can talk don't meet it piss off. Torres should not be given the power to dictate his future at our expence, after all he picked up the pen and signed his contract extention. He should be told they have until 6pm today otherwise the same price will be asked for in summer. With £65m we could bid for Adam £8m, Young £18m, Nzogbia £15m and Lukaka £20m already have suarez. We are Building for the future if Torres doesn't want to be part of it fine Piss off then just like Micheal Owen did and Look where he ended up 5th or 6th choice at utd. wow. what a carier move that was.
Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Johnson


Nzogbia Gerrard Merellies Young


Suarez Lukaka


Jones, Skertel, Aurellio, The Greek, Adam, Lucas, Poulsen, Cole, Maxi, Spearing, Shelvey, Kuyt, Ngog, Pachecho

Not a bad squad to go into the summer Transfer Window with. With this squad u could look to make 1 or2 big signings per window. ( i can dream can't i) What u think ed

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29 Jan 2011 10:45:23
Don't act in haste, is what I say.
This calls for cool, calm thinking.
If the deal was arranged in advance, let's see what transpires.
I feel the same as everyone. If Nando wants to go, get good a deal for it. But just not to Chelsea! !
I do fear a bit. When we've replaced top players in the past it was always from a position of strength, as we had a strong team already. But this is not the case now.
Anyway, I've seen them come and go, retire. .
Like to see Stevie line him up next week tho !
KB

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29 Jan 2011 10:45:18
Liverpool Rumours
To any of the eds, if torres does go for around 50 million, could that money plus a bit more get somebody like pato an bastos?or podolski n mata?who would you have?do you think we could do these deals?

{editor: I would take Llorente and Turan.}

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29 Jan 2011 10:44:21
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Hi Ed's

Love the site, any chance of introducing a rating system for recognised reliable posters just so we know there word is slightly more reliable than the rest, it wouldn't stop me reading the bull**** posts but it may reduce my chances of a heart attack lol

For all you worrying about Torres leaving, I posted a while back about how good Suarez is and believe me when I tell you he will be every bit as good, if not better than Torres

{editor: I dont think we can have a rating system in place. It is up to posters wether they leave a name or not. Just read and believe what you want mate, thats the best way.}

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29 Jan 2011 10:43:42
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Proper Gutted hope Torres can do a u turn. Just when things were starting to look rosey again.

Hope Kenny gives him a stone cold stunner! !

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29 Jan 2011 10:42:46
If he wants to go then let him go. No point in keeping an unhappy player. For the going rate though please and if it is the Chavs, we'll take Anelka too. Adios Nando. I'd like to say good luck but I can't

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29 Jan 2011 10:41:58
Torres can leave NO 1 IS BIGGER THEN LFC

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29 Jan 2011 10:48:44
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Mixed emotions for me over the Torres saga. Like most would say, if he's not happy then let him go. I don't think that this would be the right option for us though. I don't think there has been a fall out, i just think Torres has become disillusioned with Liverpool and our clubs potential for success. It's going to take another season of consolidation and squad re-building until we have a competitive team again and i think that Torres realises this. Even then there is no guarantee that we will be competing for the major titles, so that's probably why he see's this transfer window as an opportunity to get out and move to a club that WILL be challenging for the big prizes. However, he is under a long term contract and personally i feel that the owners should reject any advances for Nando, and Kenny should tell him to knuckle down, act like a professional and get on with the business of scoring goals for Liverpool FC. You have to remember that Torres is the most prolific striker in the Premier League. Who will replace him? Honestly, could 2 quality strikers create a prolific partnership to rival Nando's goal scoring prowess? No! Make him stay, sign Suarez and have a class strike partnership that includes Torres. NESV will get things right for us, they will provide funds over the next 12 months and we will strengthen the squad. If the team starts moving in the right direction and start looking dangerous again then Nando will have a change of heart, he will see that he is at a club that will match his ambitions. Remember that we let Xabi Alonso and Arbeloa go and we went backwards. Then we let Mascherano go and lost our bite in midfield, who can see us moving forward without Torres? You could use the money from his sale to buy big but remember this, Fernando would be playing for Chelsea/ Man City. How would we expect to out compete them and win titles ahead of them if they had the best goalscorer that the premier league has seen in recent years? Imagine that sick feeling in your stomach if Nando returned as a player for another club and demolished us on the pitch. Make him stay! But if he was to go, then don't let him remain in the Premier League, sell him abroad, even if a club abroad is'nt offering the same money as ChelskiHurstinho

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29 Jan 2011 10:48:04
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Torres owes the club nothing Liverpool are sime
His employer, and people change employers all the time, if anybody on here is old enough to remember when Dalglish or Rush left you will also remember that back in those days it was fine to want to further your carear.

And we were a better team after he went in 1987 Fine. .get him sold then £40m+

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29 Jan 2011 10:47:32
Buy Aguero TODAY. Make Torres STAY!

Matt S - YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 10:46:00
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Lads we have the most important asset on the books and that is kd, so if torres wants to go, let him and make sure we get the best deal possible for him, kenny stated he would have come back to any squad, transfers or no transfers and i think this could be a blessing so we get someone who has the desire to play for the red shirt and look forward to play with an exciting centre foward in luis suarez, good times are ahead for LFC under king kenny, So goodbye torres and best of luck at the prems nursing home.

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29 Jan 2011 10:45:24
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Gutted but if Torres wants to go then fine but on our terms. Since NESV came in we don't have any debt so don't need to sell so we decide what his price is .Tell Chelsea and Torres our Price is £65m meet it u can talk don't meet it piss off. Torres should not be given the power to dictate his future at our expence, after all he picked up the pen and signed his contract extention. He should be told they have until 6pm today otherwise the same price will be asked for in summer. With £65m we could bid for Adam £8m, Young £18m, Nzogbia £15m and Lukaka £20m already have suarez. We are Building for the future if Torres doesn't want to be part of it fine Piss off then just like Micheal Owen did and Look where he ended up 5th or 6th choice at utd. wow. what a carier move that was.
Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Johnson


Nzogbia Gerrard Merellies Young


Suarez Lukaka


Jones, Skertel, Aurellio, The Greek, Adam, Lucas, Poulsen, Cole, Maxi, Spearing, Shelvey, Kuyt, Ngog, Pachecho

Not a bad squad to go into the summer Transfer Window with. With this squad u could look to make 1 or2 big signings per window. ( i can dream can't i) What u think ed

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29 Jan 2011 10:45:23
Don't act in haste, is what I say.
This calls for cool, calm thinking.
If the deal was arranged in advance, let's see what transpires.
I feel the same as everyone. If Nando wants to go, get good a deal for it. But just not to Chelsea! !
I do fear a bit. When we've replaced top players in the past it was always from a position of strength, as we had a strong team already. But this is not the case now.
Anyway, I've seen them come and go, retire. .
Like to see Stevie line him up next week tho !
KB

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29 Jan 2011 10:44:21
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed's

Love the site, any chance of introducing a rating system for recognised reliable posters just so we know there word is slightly more reliable than the rest, it wouldn't stop me reading the bull**** posts but it may reduce my chances of a heart attack lol

For all you worrying about Torres leaving, I posted a while back about how good Suarez is and believe me when I tell you he will be every bit as good, if not better than Torres

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29 Jan 2011 10:43:42
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Proper Gutted hope Torres can do a u turn. Just when things were starting to look rosey again.

Hope Kenny gives him a stone cold stunner! !

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29 Jan 2011 10:42:51
I feel sorry for Lius Suarez he has been waiting to sign for us and the biggest move in his career, has been overshadowed by Torres wanting to go and play for Chelsea.

Welcome to Anfield Luis Suarez , its a big day for you.

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29 Jan 2011 10:42:46
If he wants to go then let him go. No point in keeping an unhappy player. For the going rate though please and if it is the Chavs, we'll take Anelka too. Adios Nando. I'd like to say good luck but I can't

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29 Jan 2011 10:41:58
Torres can leave NO 1 IS BIGGER THEN LFC

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29 Jan 2011 10:32:21
Ummm, can someone tell me why there is so much hate for arguably our greatest ever player stevie g? ed what has happened re him and torres? is it true?

{Editor's Note: I can't understand the levels of hate either.}

REALLY - can both of you be real:
1. Steven Gerrard is not the greatest Liverpool player ever, infact I can think of an All Time Liverpool XI that does not have him in it fairly easily
2. Is it hate - NO
3. Why do we not hold him in high regard? He appears at times selfish and conceited, is really a genuine bloke - no, do really nice guys do some of the things or keep some of the company he kept? Did we ever hear about these things from Xabi Alonso or El Nino - no - why - genuine people who loved their footie

There is no doubt Steven Gerrard has done alot for LFC but he is not the best we have had and for me I'd rather keep Torres and bag £25million for Gerrard right now!

RED PADDY
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wow, just wow. there is no remote evidence to suggest gerrard has anything to do with torres handing in a request.

and are you trying to say he had a bust up with xabi? because he was gutted when he left, and that led to gerrards disappointment in rafa.

I just fail to see why so many people are slagging of stevie g, when he hasn't done anything wrong, whereas torres for a good 3 months played with such little effort and care for liverpool it was near disgraceful. Steven will always give his all.

And for you to say he wouldn't be in an all time liverpool 11 is just poor from you. He is an anfield legend, and one of our best at that. Show some respect

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29 Jan 2011 10:32:21
So Torres has asked for a transfer which he should be given, if he is not happy at our club then we don't want or need him. We need all the players pulling together not sulking like we have all seen him do. He should only be sold but only when it suits the club and to the highest bidder i think Man City would pay alot more than Chelsea for him. I doubt that we could get some one in in this window so keep him till the summer then sell.

HE'S ONE PLAYER, AND HE'S BEEN A SULKY LITTLE CHILD FOR A LOT OF THE SEASON, AND VERY LAZY WHEN WE PLAYED FULHAM. GET RID, DEAD WOOD, WE WANT A TEAM OF RED MEN THAT WILL STAND AND FALL TOGETHER, NOT A WHINY, OVERPAID, PETULENT LITTLE CHILD THAT GETS PAID FAR TOO MUCH! ASK YOURSELVES THIS. .IF YOU ACTED LIKE THIS AT YOUR WORKPLACE, DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A JOB FOR LONG? GET RID!
LIV4EVA


Spot on mate, unfortunately you forget one thing, . . . "PLAYERS RULE". . Contracts are not worth a carrot now.

Sooty

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29 Jan 2011 10:31:12
This is theturdz speaking
lets not start hating torres hes been a breath of fresh air for us if only we would have had real investment and a new stadium in place im sure we would be top dogs now and he would be signing for life we had a chance to be the best team in prem the season we finished second its then that we started to fall apart with our best players being sold so lets move on we got new owners now let them show us their intentions they have only been here a few months im sure they will start the ball rolling with the stadium plans these are no fools they no whats needed they will build us a young hungry squad of players and with kenny in charge you watch us go. so goodbuy nando its been a pleasure having you wear the no9 go to chealsea who if you look at their squad is now ageing and needs rebuilding too but were already bringing our young guns through and we will be in great shape to start the next season with a bang so onwards and upwards for us
from theturdz

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29 Jan 2011 10:30:33
If torres wants to go leave him go in the summer to the highest bidder preferably out foreign, simple as that. My guess though is that he's useing the same tactic as rooney ie. Give me more money and ill sign a new contract and stay. Even if he was the most loyal person in the world he's still injury prone so anything over 55mil is good business, he can be replaced for the better. I

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29 Jan 2011 10:29:21
Hi ed
I think that if Torres wants to go let him go.tell Chelsea we want £60m plus Sturridge then go out and buy Aguero for £40m Turan £10 and a good defender for the other £10m.This way we will have a strikeforce of Suarez and Aguero with Sturridge coming off the bench and all the owners have shelled out is the Suarez £23m of which we have already received £6m for Babel.What gets me is the fact that these players blame everbody else for the team not playing to their potential when they are part of that team.If Torres was not out injured for half of the season or played to his full potential when he does play we would be in a far stronger position than we are now.Lets not forget either that if Torres get 25/ 30 goals a season on his own up front are we not going to be in far better shape if we can get two goalscorers who can get 15/ 20 goals each which i personally think Aguero and Suarez are capable of doing. {ed's note - why do you want Sturridge? He is not good enough.}

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29 Jan 2011 10:29:07
Can he not at least go in the summer cos then he'll make liverpool fans happy , will get to partner with suarez , and will give us time to get a replacement! ! i thought he respected the club so why give us no time to get a replacement! ! what you think ed? {ed's note - to be honest I don't care if he stays or goes now he has asked to leave.}

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29 Jan 2011 10:27:28
If we do let Torres go then we should do it as soon as possible because otherwise we won't be able to bring in a suitable replacement. Any plaver Chelsea offer in the deal will not be good enough (they're too old or not good enough). We need to get man city bidding to drive up the price if we do indeed sell. However I would obviously not sell for anything less than £60 Million +. NESV have not seen this coming and Henry and Werner are now meeting with senior management as to what to do before they unviel suarez later today or early monday morning.
Kenny wants to hold onto him but NESV want to sell him for an inflated fee before the clause to sell for £50M activates.

He hasn't got a clause in his contract, We shouldn't sell him till summer cos it doesn't suit us. We sell him when it suits him. He will give 100% till end of the season because if he doesn't nobody will buy him.
Sooty

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29 Jan 2011 10:25:30
Liverpool Rumours
Now I don't want to start a witch hunt.But with the world watching that little scrote on ssn makes my blood boil, as I am a proud of my club and city.With a moment of foolishness it lowers us to a level that others may call scum.I CANT HELP FELLING A LITTLE DISSAPPOINTED.

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29 Jan 2011 10:24:01
I tell you one thing, I am the biggest Torres fan but one of the reasons Torres has broken so many records at lfc is because of gerreard and the partnership formed. Don't get me wrong I know he has always been top class at athletico but he has/ is prolific when gerrard is playing alongside him. I know the partnership has not been there this and some of last season due to injury for them both but with passing game back on track it would soon start up again, in football partnerships like that don't just come along they are quite rare. I know he is world class and I am not doubting his individual ability but it's a team sport, and Torres is far more prolific in lfc shirt than an athletico or Spain shirt and that us because gerrard plays for lfc. If he does go to Chelsea I have no doubt he will be great but he will need to develop a link with a player at cfc like he has with gerrard if he is to be as fantastic as was for us.

Bob loblaw

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29 Jan 2011 10:22:59
Liverpool Rumours
If players put transfer requests in they have to go.
Why should Liverpool keep paying thier wages when they are not intrested.

Stop being loyal to Torres

You are Liverpool supporters.

He will go

We will not.

We trust King Kenny to lead us forward

He does not! That why he is going.

Rebuild again Kinny Kenny

L1

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29 Jan 2011 10:40:15
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Let him go but not to a prem team

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29 Jan 2011 10:39:40
I just can't see Aguero coming to Liverpool! Isn't he on £200,000 a week (anyone?)? Liverpool won't pay that I don't think. Just my opinion tho.

What are the possibilities of getting a top player in on the last few days of the window? Slim I would think, but you never know! Money talks!

Llorente & Honda or Turan with Torres money. It might be time for Commoli to earn his wages. Suarez, Llorente & Turan in a front 3 is better than anything we have every had in a long time at the club. Every cloud has a silver lining guys.

The Irish Rover

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29 Jan 2011 10:38:24
Liverpool Rumours
To my thinking, the timing of Nando's transfer request is the key to understanding why he put it in. 48 hours from the end of the January transfer window. . .how many players had we signed at that stage?? Now that Suarez is in, my thought is that Nando will want to give it a try, at least until the summer.Hopefully Comoli or whoever is overseeing the transfers will get another 2 or 3 players in to convince Nando that the investment will be there for the squad. Personally I don't blame Nando for playing it out this way - how many promises about improving the squad and where we'll be, have been broken to him over the past 3 years? FSG can now show Nando and the fans their intent by making some signings, and throwing another 2 year extension at Nando to head off more speculation in the summer. His wages will go up if he gets the extension, but if that's what we have to do to hold on to our top players , then NESV know that it has to be done. . they've done it at thr Red Sox after all. How else can we expect to keep him or any other player that should be playing CL football next year?

I know how no player is bigger than the club, but selling our top players to our rivals. . . .Well done to the club for rejecting the request, sort the situation out over the next 48 hours and head off any speculation in the summer by improving that contract now - I know Nando loves this city and the club and fans - his daughter is a scouser! He just needs reassurance and someone to tell him how important he is to us, and Kenny willhave done that this morning.

scouse and proud

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29 Jan 2011 10:38:22
Liverpool Rumours
Torres to just go, we don't want him if he isn't gonna put his heart into liverpool anymore. so thank you fernando torres but goodbye there are many options, we could use torres going to completly change liverpool fc i would be happy with any of these options (rather see him abroad)

- to Chelsea for 60m (no cfc player i would want) Buy Aguero 39m and Lakuka(s?) 21m

- to Man City for 50m + Adam Johnsen, Buy Aguero 39m and M'vila 11m

- Inter 50m + Santon, Buy Aguero 39m and Turan 11m

- Bayern Munich 40m + Thomas Muller Buy Lakuka 21m and Turan 11m and Papaduoplas(s?) 8m
Barca cannot afford him i cannot see him going to Madrid

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29 Jan 2011 10:36:58
Sell now! Do not wait for the summer !

He has handed in a transfer request.

He should not wear the red shirt again !

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29 Jan 2011 10:36:57
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29 Jan 2011 10:01:26
WILL EVERYONE STOP SLAGGING TORRES! !
No one knows what he really wants yet, nothing is concrete, even whether he has asked for a transfer. If he has there must be a reason behind his decision. And so late in the window means it can be resolved. You all are not making things easier.
If he commits his future tommorrow, you will ne the same fans who will celebrate! You all know him and Suarez will be the most lethal strikeforce ever! !
YOU BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES! !

4everRed
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Um. . its on LFC website that he asked for a transfer - i think that's pretty conclusive.

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so what! he handed in a transfer request. .maybe he's trying to prove a point . . . gerrard had said he was leaving once upon a time and agreed terms with the same team and came to his senses, rooney was leaving but is still at the other team, stuff happens. .
Regardless -it just seems odd only a few weeks after Torres came out and commited. .
Gerrard and Torres have obviouslly come to blows about something as they wouldn't even look at each other after they scored against Fulham and Torres walked off and didn't talk to anyone while the rest of the team were giving it big hugs. . .
no idea whats going to happen next but at least this time we don't need to wait all summer to find out! !

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29 Jan 2011 10:36:45
Liverpool Rumours
This talk of Torres wanting out because of a falling out with a team member(s) is complete rubbish. So what if he has?! I'd he loved the club as much as he said he did he would just get on with things. What if he didn't like everyone at Chelsea, would he pit in another transfer request!?! He's moving for money, plain and simple. If it's to do with trophies, then why Chelsea? They will not win the league and they will not win the champions league. They will however, give him a tonne of money and a big house in our nations capital! I'm hoping maybe kenny and our owners can sit him down, talk things out and change his mind, but I seriously doubt it. The man would have been a true legend for the club, now he'll just be another in a long line of players who were privileged to wear the red shirt. So long fernando!

Redfish

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29 Jan 2011 10:36:43
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In spite of Torres's history (Athletico) would it not make more sense in this window (since Real must have money to bid for Aguero) that we looked into a swap deal for Benzema and Diarra for Torres giving us 2 quality replacements without the hassle of looking around.

Opinions please

{editor: Torres would never play for Real Madrid, but then again I thought he would never walk to play for Chelsea.}

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29 Jan 2011 10:36:24
I think we will be busy today setting up a deal for another striker Hoarau PSG maybe, totally different player to Suares and a player who could get on the end of say Adam crosses. I think we will let him go last day, when we have our options signed, sealed and delivered.Let Torres go and respect his wishes, don't slag him off. Honda, Hoarau, Suarez, Adam, for Torres.I would have taken that at the beginning of the month, when Torres was strolling around the pitch with his head held low.Whats your opinion Ed?

{editor: I'll be devastated if Torres leaves.}

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29 Jan 2011 10:34:52
His armband claimed he was a red, t0rres t0rres. But to the s**t in blue he fled, t0rres t0rres. We bought the lad from sunny spain and then we got betrayed again. Fernando t0rres n0 l0nger our number 9. Ive learnt one thing out of this: never idolize a modern footballer. When he does eventually sign for the senior citizens of london i will start a bonfire and burn my #9 shirt and posters, that's a promise.
Red bl00ded!

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29 Jan 2011 10:33:26
Liverpool Rumours
Sorry to see Torres wants out, agree that Gerrard And Carra have a lot to do with his decission.
Think this goes back to last year when he chose to have surgery before the end of the season so that he would be available for Spain in the World Cup. Personally don't blame him for that, we weren't competing for the league and the club put Europa League before his wellbeing.

That said I think the stance that the club have taken refusing his transfer request is spot on, not because we are trying to keep him, but because all of europes top clubs will have 5-6 months to put a bid togeather and we will have a bidding war and get top price, then re-invest.

It also gives the club time to line up targets over time, not rushed in 2-3 days if we let him go now.

No player is bigger than our club.
I support LIVERPOOL FC, not any 1 person, whether it's Torres, Gerrard or even KK.

Bel. Keep till summer
Unbel. Sell now

Greenmonkey
YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 10:32:21
Ummm, can someone tell me why there is so much hate for arguably our greatest ever player stevie g? ed what has happened re him and torres? is it true?

{Editor's Note: I can't understand the levels of hate either.}

REALLY - can both of you be real:
1. Steven Gerrard is not the greatest Liverpool player ever, infact I can think of an All Time Liverpool XI that does not have him in it fairly easily
2. Is it hate - NO
3. Why do we not hold him in high regard? He appears at times selfish and conceited, is really a genuine bloke - no, do really nice guys do some of the things or keep some of the company he kept? Did we ever hear about these things from Xabi Alonso or El Nino - no - why - genuine people who loved their footie

There is no doubt Steven Gerrard has done alot for LFC but he is not the best we have had and for me I'd rather keep Torres and bag £25million for Gerrard right now!

RED PADDY
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wow, just wow. there is no remote evidence to suggest gerrard has anything to do with torres handing in a request.

and are you trying to say he had a bust up with xabi? because he was gutted when he left, and that led to gerrards disappointment in rafa.

I just fail to see why so many people are slagging of stevie g, when he hasn't done anything wrong, whereas torres for a good 3 months played with such little effort and care for liverpool it was near disgraceful. Steven will always give his all.

And for you to say he wouldn't be in an all time liverpool 11 is just poor from you. He is an anfield legend, and one of our best at that. Show some respect

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29 Jan 2011 10:32:21
So Torres has asked for a transfer which he should be given, if he is not happy at our club then we don't want or need him. We need all the players pulling together not sulking like we have all seen him do. He should only be sold but only when it suits the club and to the highest bidder i think Man City would pay alot more than Chelsea for him. I doubt that we could get some one in in this window so keep him till the summer then sell.

HE'S ONE PLAYER, AND HE'S BEEN A SULKY LITTLE CHILD FOR A LOT OF THE SEASON, AND VERY LAZY WHEN WE PLAYED FULHAM. GET RID, DEAD WOOD, WE WANT A TEAM OF RED MEN THAT WILL STAND AND FALL TOGETHER, NOT A WHINY, OVERPAID, PETULENT LITTLE CHILD THAT GETS PAID FAR TOO MUCH! ASK YOURSELVES THIS. .IF YOU ACTED LIKE THIS AT YOUR WORKPLACE, DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A JOB FOR LONG? GET RID!
LIV4EVA


Spot on mate, unfortunately you forget one thing, . . . "PLAYERS RULE". . Contracts are not worth a carrot now.

Sooty

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29 Jan 2011 10:31:12
This is theturdz speaking
lets not start hating torres hes been a breath of fresh air for us if only we would have had real investment and a new stadium in place im sure we would be top dogs now and he would be signing for life we had a chance to be the best team in prem the season we finished second its then that we started to fall apart with our best players being sold so lets move on we got new owners now let them show us their intentions they have only been here a few months im sure they will start the ball rolling with the stadium plans these are no fools they no whats needed they will build us a young hungry squad of players and with kenny in charge you watch us go. so goodbuy nando its been a pleasure having you wear the no9 go to chealsea who if you look at their squad is now ageing and needs rebuilding too but were already bringing our young guns through and we will be in great shape to start the next season with a bang so onwards and upwards for us
from theturdz

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29 Jan 2011 10:29:42
Liverpool Rumours
Am a gutted nando fan would have understood if he left in the summer but this way is a kick in the cods. For all the reds in england i have been watching the asian cup (which australia will win) closely and Honda is by far the best at the tournament.

Onto the rumors, my best mate and room mate plays at the glory with robbie fowler and his opinion (specify opinion and not fact) is that we will land honda but says torres is still 50/ 50 he is disapointed about the whole situation but reckons pool will keep him past tuesday then cash in when summer comes.

Then we will be in for Turan and the like and his presence will not be missed.

Reds fans remember we have stars in our ranks and are good hands. i think the owners have proven that if we lose nando that the money will be well spent.

Will be sick if i see him lining up at chelsea next week though.

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29 Jan 2011 10:29:21
Hi ed
I think that if Torres wants to go let him go.tell Chelsea we want £60m plus Sturridge then go out and buy Aguero for £40m Turan £10 and a good defender for the other £10m.This way we will have a strikeforce of Suarez and Aguero with Sturridge coming off the bench and all the owners have shelled out is the Suarez £23m of which we have already received £6m for Babel.What gets me is the fact that these players blame everbody else for the team not playing to their potential when they are part of that team.If Torres was not out injured for half of the season or played to his full potential when he does play we would be in a far stronger position than we are now.Lets not forget either that if Torres get 25/ 30 goals a season on his own up front are we not going to be in far better shape if we can get two goalscorers who can get 15/ 20 goals each which i personally think Aguero and Suarez are capable of doing.

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29 Jan 2011 10:29:20
Liverpool Rumours
I think we should do a deal, 40m + Malouda and Sturridge

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29 Jan 2011 10:29:07
Can he not at least go in the summer cos then he'll make liverpool fans happy , will get to partner with suarez , and will give us time to get a replacement! ! i thought he respected the club so why give us no time to get a replacement! ! what you think ed?

{editor: I'm just shocked.}

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29 Jan 2011 10:28:57
Liverpool Rumours
£40 Million & David Silva

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29 Jan 2011 10:26:26
Liverpool Rumours
Selling torres is the stupidest thing we could do, i think we sould hold on to him an kenny will change his mind

i jus don't understand it, he seemed like he was enjoying playin for kenny

ed what do you make of it ?

{editor: I feel cheated and lied to to be honest. I never thought a player and person like him would do this type of thing.}

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29 Jan 2011 10:25:30
Liverpool Rumours
Now I don't want to start a witch hunt.But with the world watching that little scrote on ssn makes my blood boil, as I am a proud of my club and city.With a moment of foolishness it lowers us to a level that others may call scum.I CANT HELP FELLING A LITTLE DISSAPPOINTED.

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29 Jan 2011 10:24:01
I tell you one thing, I am the biggest Torres fan but one of the reasons Torres has broken so many records at lfc is because of gerreard and the partnership formed. Don't get me wrong I know he has always been top class at athletico but he has/ is prolific when gerrard is playing alongside him. I know the partnership has not been there this and some of last season due to injury for them both but with passing game back on track it would soon start up again, in football partnerships like that don't just come along they are quite rare. I know he is world class and I am not doubting his individual ability but it's a team sport, and Torres is far more prolific in lfc shirt than an athletico or Spain shirt and that us because gerrard plays for lfc. If he does go to Chelsea I have no doubt he will be great but he will need to develop a link with a player at cfc like he has with gerrard if he is to be as fantastic as was for us.

Bob loblaw

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29 Jan 2011 10:23:14
Liverpool Rumours
Honda will be on his was, just not until after Australia beat his team in the asian cup final in 5 hours!
Don't want to interupt his preperation and all!
Sell Torres - who needs him? Not us he doesn't even sore any goals, get the 50 mill and hopefully Anelka (yes please) and buy Lukaku and Ganso and Ramos as he wants away from Barca!
Lets have a team that wants to be a team. . .
P.S - Gerrard needs to be brought down a level and Miereles given more of a freedom half role!

Craig Johnson is a legend! !

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29 Jan 2011 10:22:59
Liverpool Rumours
If players put transfer requests in they have to go.
Why should Liverpool keep paying thier wages when they are not intrested.

Stop being loyal to Torres

You are Liverpool supporters.

He will go

We will not.

We trust King Kenny to lead us forward

He does not! That why he is going.

Rebuild again Kinny Kenny

L1

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29 Jan 2011 10:21:01
Liverpool Rumours
Not a rumour more opinion, hope that is OK. Nando is undoubtedly world class but we don't want players who don't want to wear the shirt. This has to be seen as an opportunity, Liverpool need to screw as much out of Chelsea as they can. Get 60m+ or 50m and a couple of top class players and with the money buy three more. . five class players for Nando is a good deal. However, pride in the name is key. . that is why Charlie Adam would be a great buy, class player, fantastic ability to spray the ball around and would wear the red shirt with pride.

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29 Jan 2011 10:15:10
These past 18 months have been the hardest time for us all. We have seen our club lose its core, Alonso, Arbeloa, Hypia, Benayoun, Rafa, Mascherano for absolute peanuts and been replaced with a loaned out Aquiliani, Glen struggling Johnson, Soto, Joe no game Cole, Hodgson and Poulsen. No wonder Feranando wants to leave! People that say Torres can be replaced, think about it, can he really?? His talent is unique, its not only the amount of goals its the way he scores them and that it why he has been the most popular player in the EPL since his arrival from Madrid. Furthermore there is no other striker available to LFC either now or in the summer that has a goal to game ratio near to his in a decent league! FACT. King Kenny has got a massive job on his hands now. We should all hope and believe that he can change Feranando's mind, becuase now more than ever (7th with an average squad) do we need our number 9!

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29 Jan 2011 10:12:55
LL EVERYONE STOP SLAGGING TORRES! !
No one knows what he really wants yet, nothing is concrete, even whether he has asked for a transfer. If he has there must be a reason behind his decision. And so late in the window means it can be resolved. You all are not making things easier.
If he commits his future tommorrow, you will ne the same fans who will celebrate! You all know him and Suarez will be the most lethal strikeforce ever! !
YOU BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES! !

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chelsea fan

muzmacol ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 10:12:35
Liverpool Rumours
I like what telegraph journalist Henry winter wrote on twitter.

"A word to Torres. You will never again experience the intensity of love the Liverpool fans feel for you, so why? And why now? Mistake."

Good comment I thought.

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29 Jan 2011 10:10:39
Liverpool Rumours
Pepe needs to have a word & slap the transfer request out of Torres!

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29 Jan 2011 10:08:34
Liverpool Rumours
No facts just an opinion. If Torres wants to go let him go. Liverpool football club is bigger than one player and will be around long after Torres' day has passed. With regard to a replacement, what about Forlan, looked good with Suarez in the WC?

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29 Jan 2011 10:08:30
Liverpool Rumours
On the 27th Jan Liverpool offical site posted this. .

'Liverpool FC's official website is on course to record its busiest ever month but with your help, we want to see if we can crash through the 100 million page impression barrier.'

At least we'll beat that record!

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29 Jan 2011 10:08:12
My head is pulling in many directions. I loved the lad and at times i don.t know why cos his touch can be dodgy, his face can be sulky but above all that he chose us. and every other team was jealous and that gave me a sense of pride. And now he wants out, i do hope its nothing to do with the scouse mafia. Let him go if he wants to win something[world and euro cup winners medals must not be all that cop eh?]. I'll miss him but i'll get over it. More importantly i don.t think he should be booed-only ignored, that would dent his ego more. And also show that we are LFC and we are different to all the other clubs. randy watson. his armband proved to be a parasite

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29 Jan 2011 10:07:29
Liverpool Rumours
Let me start off and say i don't want torres to go at all but as a man approaching his mid 40s i would like to point out to alot of the younger fans that i like so many have seen this happen quite a few times at our great and famous club, However these things do happen and the club has too and will move on as it has done successfully on many occasion.
As a younger lad i witnessed the then hero kevin keegan move on and liverpool sign the all time king!
I was in in shock when we sold Ian rush but the king then went out and assembled what i still believe was our greatest attacking team ever! Barnes, Aldridge etc. We have Kenny back overseeing what is best for the club so alls i say is don't panic and trust the King cause he has the liverpool way running through his veins and he WILL get things right whatever happens!
We are Liverpool Football Club and we are as one, and the saying is right everyclub has a hero but no one player is or ever will be bigger than the club!
RedGaz. YNWA. .

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29 Jan 2011 10:06:10
50 million for Torres 6 million for Bobel, Suarez signed for 23 million that leaves 33 million left. That's 33 million plus any other sales of deadwood javanovic, Konchesky, to re-invest into buying 2-3 quality additions ie another striker wingers and maybe a centre back. In the end we could come out of this with a stronger team than our current starting 11 without actually spending a penny and without relying on Torres Gerrard Reina all the time.
Example;

1. Reina
2. Kelly
3. Agger
4. Shawcross, Cahill
5. Johnson
6. Gerrard
7. Lucas
8. Merillas
9. Suarez
10. Ashley Young, A.Johnson
11. Nzogbia, Turan.

A mouth watering line up for me!

RedAk1

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29 Jan 2011 10:05:17
What is wrong with you all slagging off players ave you not been listenin to king kenny, we need to stick together! What ever is going on will be sorted one way or another. Plus i believe its to do with torres' agent anyway and maybe rafa, he seems to have a way of gettin rid of our decent strikers!

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29 Jan 2011 10:03:53
Liverpool Rumours
Hold on, so there are some die hard Liverpool fans on this site BLAMING our skipper (whom torres had such a great partnership with) and our rock at the back (who has saved us on so many occasions) for the inevitable departure of torres !
Remember no one player is bigger than this club and if he doesn't want to be here LET HIM GO! ! but only if the price is right and we have a suitable replacement lined up! !
So therefore, he probably isn't going anywhere until the summer! ! !

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29 Jan 2011 10:03:30
Liverpool Rumours
I think we should make a stand, don't sell him, he can play with the right attitude or sit in the reserves. Selling to chelsea is a horrible idea, disgusting vile individuals they are.

Muzmacol ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 10:03:27
ha to all you liverpool fans saying sky sports news are talking crap and that torres wants to stay how you feel now he handed in a tranfer request most people said he wanted to go but a few idiots didn't believe it lol

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29 Jan 2011 10:03:23
Also, assuming Torres leaves would you expect Liverpool to line up a replacement for the remainder of the season or go with what they got?

Seems to me that NESV are not interested in knee jerk reactions and if Torres is sold will not panic buy and wait till the summer.

Cheers ed.

{Editor's Note: I do not know the provisions of Aguero's contract.}

I know it speculation but what about the replacement situation? Just wondering what your take on it would be? {ed's note - we have already got one replacement.}

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29 Jan 2011 10:01:26
WILL EVERYONE STOP SLAGGING TORRES! !
No one knows what he really wants yet, nothing is concrete, even whether he has asked for a transfer. If he has there must be a reason behind his decision. And so late in the window means it can be resolved. You all are not making things easier.
If he commits his future tommorrow, you will ne the same fans who will celebrate! You all know him and Suarez will be the most lethal strikeforce ever! !
YOU BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES! !

4everRed
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Um. . its on LFC website that he asked for a transfer - i think that's pretty conclusive.

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29 Jan 2011 10:01:24
Liverpool Rumours
Leave Torres go 4 h**k sake he's not bigger dan Liverpool ship him we can replace him. Same thing wil happen at Chelsea dere goin down hill we are re-building soon we will b a force an he will regret leaving Liverpool we have played de best football under kenny dis man is a god we b challaging again next season common de pool ynwa.

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29 Jan 2011 10:00:42
Liverpool Rumours
Have i missed something?? or am i putting 2 & 2 together and getting 5? what is it people are saying about Stevie G and Carra forcing Torres out!?

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29 Jan 2011 10:00:41
We all supported torres through thick and thin, Every time he was over the moon, so were we, and every time he was in pain so were we. And now this is how he repays us. owen all over again

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29 Jan 2011 10:00:24
29 Jan 2011 09:33:11
Liverpool Rumours
If torres leave won't that mean that aguero will go there to as he wants to play with torres?
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Possibly as he wants to partner torres but remember idnt maxi his best mate they spent crimbo together ain liverpool so this may be y he wudcome to us ?

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29 Jan 2011 10:00:01
Liverpool Rumours
NO player is bigger than our club! If he wants to go get shut of him before he causes more problems than hes worth, if we don't get rid he will continue to play but not give 100% . . id prefare to see pacheco or someone like that up top with Suarez than him, at least a young lad like that will give there all and WANT to die for that shirt

He may be better than what we are at the moment but he has never and will never be better than our club. Take the 40mil and bring in aguero or llorente and a decent winger

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29 Jan 2011 09:57:52
Liverpool Rumours
Torres will NOT be leaving this window. . but most likely in the summer

4 signings will be made : Suarez, Adam and 2 others but my source will not say who the 'other two' are,
I think its Young and Warnock but im not sure at all.

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29 Jan 2011 09:57:36
Liverpool Rumours
If we do let Torres go then we should do it as soon as possible because otherwise we won't be able to bring in a suitable replacement. Any plaver Chelsea offer in the deal will not be good enough (they're too old or not good enough). We need to get man city bidding to drive up the price if we do indeed sell. However I would obviously not sell for anything less than £60 Million +. NESV have not seen this coming and Henry and Werner are now meeting with senior management as to what to do before they unviel suarez later today or early monday morning.
Kenny wants to hold onto him but NESV want to sell him for an inflated fee before the clause to sell for £50M activates.

PJ

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29 Jan 2011 09:57:19
Sell johnson to real madrid buy ramos
sell lucas introduce wilson
sell skertel buy bassong
buy jesus navas
buy bastos

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29 Jan 2011 09:56:47
Liverpool Rumours
So Torres wants to leave. So what?
Time for LFC to grow a pair and tell him he is going nowhere. I'm sick and tired of our top players running when the going gets tough. Alonso and Mascherano most notably. Other clubs seem able to hold onto disgruntled players, who then go onto longer enjoyable spells with the club. About time we did too. Or at least sell him for the price WE want, not just what is offered. Again we always seem to capitulate. Selling for less than we actually value the player. Yet when we make a bid below the supposed value of a player we are slated, the price stays the same and we end up coughing up!

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29 Jan 2011 09:56:07
{Editor's Note: Values should drop in the summer.}

That makes sense, but Chelsea are running scared of Man City's spending power. They know if City get involved, even they will struggle to compete, given the rebuilding job required there. So would Chelsea do whatever it takes to do a deal this weekend, or risk a bidding war in the summer?

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29 Jan 2011 09:56:02
Liverpool Rumours
So Torres has asked for a transfer which he should be given, if he is not happy at our club then we don't want or need him. We need all the players pulling together not sulking like we have all seen him do. He should only be sold but only when it suits the club and to the highest bidder i think Man City would pay alot more than Chelsea for him. I doubt that we could get some one in in this window so keep him till the summer then sell.

HE'S ONE PLAYER, AND HE'S BEEN A SULKY LITTLE CHILD FOR A LOT OF THE SEASON, AND VERY LAZY WHEN WE PLAYED FULHAM. GET RID, DEAD WOOD, WE WANT A TEAM OF RED MEN THAT WILL STAND AND FALL TOGETHER, NOT A WHINY, OVERPAID, PETULENT LITTLE CHILD THAT GETS PAID FAR TOO MUCH! ASK YOURSELVES THIS. .IF YOU ACTED LIKE THIS AT YOUR WORKPLACE, DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A JOB FOR LONG? GET RID!
LIV4EVA

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29 Jan 2011 09:55:19
If he goes, I'll always remember the goals. . and I'm glad he played for Liverpool FC as his goals have made me smile!

He'll move and so will we. . just be thankful a quality player like Fernando played on the turf of Anfiled!

I'd buy that DVD - Torres Liverpool Goals!

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29 Jan 2011 09:54:47
Liverpool Rumours
Torres is a disgrace, he should never wear the red jersey again, proves the cynics right there is no heart or loyalty in football everything fueled by money and agents/ bookmakers who are poisoning this once great game. I would like to see him go for no less than £50 mil double money for a player who has not performed for two seasons. Kenny/ Comoli to use the money wisely for up and coming great talent, i.e turan, n'zogbia, adam, young, hazard 5 great talents for the price of one spent spaniard. Come on Kenny break their balls and get the best deal for this great club. Rant over, remember liverpool fans we have 6.5 million registered fans in the uk and ireland alone never mind world wide so we will always be alright, only us and man u have longevity in terms of utilising this fan base which nesv seem to be very astute in doing with the red sox.

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29 Jan 2011 09:54:33
Liverpool Rumours
Andy carroll and suarez up front

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29 Jan 2011 09:54:23
Liverpool Rumours
It is very worrying that Torres has decided to leave. Trust me. Something big is about to happen. I have been a liverpool support all my life and I can tell you Dalglish is not a fool to allow Torres to leave. He is a master and ruthless. He does not accept nonsense. Ask Fergie where he got his leadership skills from. Suarez signing is an excellent sign that we are on the UP. Soon we will have a top class LM (Honda maybe) and a LB. The glory days of the 80s will be back. To be a Liverpool player, you have to have Liverpool at heart. Think of what Shankly & Paisely did. If Torres decides to go LET HIM. WE WILL BUILD A NEW LIVERPOOL in a new era. We are no longer in the naughties. This is a new decade where only players with Liverpool at heart should be wearing the shirt. Fellow reds lets be patient. Good times are coming. *****
FUSC70

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29 Jan 2011 09:52:49
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed, are you able to confirm or shed some light on the Aguero release clause? does it actually exist.

Also, assuming Torres leaves would you expect Liverpool to line up a replacement for the remainder of the season or go with what they got?

Seems to me that NESV are not interested in knee jerk reactions and if Torres is sold will not panic buy and wait till the summer.

Cheers ed.

{Editor's Note: I do not know the provisions of Aguero's contract.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:50:09
Liverpool Rumours
If he wants to go then fine but no less than 80 million on his day El Brat is better than Ronaldo so why not this much?

With the money the below could be signed.
Aguero 40 million
Banega 8 million
Turan 12 million
Kjaer 12 million
Honda 10-12 million

We would just need 2 million to towards this which we have. The money we were gonna use for Honda originally can be used to sign Davide Santon. What do you think Ed possible? Wouldn't mind going if the above is what we got in return.

If Man city do bid demand Adam Johnson in part of the deal. Don't forget we have the leverage in this as we don't need to sell. 80 million is more than reasonable

{Editor's Note: Then the club will be stuck with a player who does not want to be there.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:49:44
Liverpool Rumours
I think if we get an offer of about £45 mil for Torres we should sell him think we'd be stupid then reinvest that money back in the team could get 2 world class strikers instead off just the one for that money get pretty much every player we looked at makes great sense to me player not wanting to be at the club and us getting 2/ 3 poss 4 players that do makes sense anyone else think the same?

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29 Jan 2011 09:49:09
Liverpool Rumours
So I just woke up and checked the site to see that people are saying torres has handed in a transfer request. If this is true I think we should decline it as he is under contract and wait until the summer and then if he wants to leave he can.

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29 Jan 2011 09:48:41
Liverpool Rumours
Torres wants to go, then he should!Its now down to NESV to get the best price for him just like Blackpool did to us
.Chelsea its £55m put up or shut up!
The only man who can replace Torres and partner Luis has to be KUN, and with a £39m buy out that will also give us the £16m needed to land HONDA.
the 3 new faces will freshen the team and give it the lift needed to push on.

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29 Jan 2011 09:48:00
Liverpool Rumours
Hi Ed's, Im sorry for acting abit dumb, am i missing something here. Ive been reading down this rumour page this morning and the feeling im getting is that stevie.g and torres don't get on or had a row and that stevie.g is not the righ person to pursuade torres to say. Could you enlighten me as to what has happened between the two or what has upset torres please. Great site by the way! Please could you post this on the liverpool rumour page. Thanks

{Editor's Note: There are too many posts to deal with I and I have no time for gossip myself. Only transfer rumours get posted to the Rumours page.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:47:05
Liverpool Rumours
Why do the media keep referring to NESV as FSG

{Editor's Note: The owners are NESV who trade as FSG in the UK.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:47:01
Liverpool Rumours
Morning all,

Re Torres, would we get more money for him now or in the summer?

Is it possible that even though he has requested a move it may be done for the summer? Or is that only when players are near the end of their contract?
Chris

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29 Jan 2011 09:44:01
Yesterday saurez said if torres is sold i am not coming so is that now in doubt?

torres spouted all this stuff 2 weeks ago about his love for the club and will honour my contract all that carp now he wants to move i say h%#k off then.

take the money now and try for augero he is the only player for me that could take his place.

i am absolutley disgusted in torres for how he as done this

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29 Jan 2011 09:42:55
29 Jan 2011 08:50:46
I have a feeling that he will move to Chelski and we would just pip them to the final CL spot by the end of the season. But I really hope that Torres, wins the league (wherever it is) and the CL before end of his career, he truly derserves it.
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Tell me why he deserves what has he done he scored a few goals and took a place in our heartsnif he leaves i hope hs team suffers and so does he
If it is chelski i would love stevie or jamie or anyone to go in with a full blooded tackle which will hurt it may sound harsh or bitter but i don't care
He betrays us than he shall and he will pay
We will watch him crawl back to anfield next season with his blue top on with his great name on the back and we shoukd give him hell no player does this to lfc and no player should get away with it

To the clown who replied above: mate you are not a hair on a liverpool supporters ass. So quick to turn on our own! and to wish a player injury?? you are an embarressment! !
Ozdave

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29 Jan 2011 09:41:51
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Every single goal that Torres scored for LFC was put on a plate for him by Gerrard's service. Count the goals or indeed performances Fernando put in when Gerrard wasn't present. It is disgusting to hear anyone pretending to be a Liverpool fan slagging off either Gerrard or Carragher even though I have a fair idea where that comes from (these RAFA Por***ds). These two loyal players have carried this club for years. Gerrard is expected to be Roys of the Rovers in every single match & if he's not then a certain type are ready to jump on his back. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Chelsea are a soulless club full of nasty characters (if he had a problem with Jamie wait till Mr Terry starts sniffing around) & nothing you win there should mean anything. If he needs a league medal that badly I'm sure John Terry would gladly sell him one of his.

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29 Jan 2011 09:40:43
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Ed: Do you think Joe cole will get a chance under dalglish?
Torres can go to whoever if we get at least 50 million and the owners allow us to reinvest in the squad. I would like to see Honda, Gary Cahill, and Llorente. YNWA.

{Editor's NOte: I expect he will - he has been injured remember.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:40:39
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If we sell torres. .

Get the higher price we can get.

Then buy 3 players.

Striker ( replacement for him ) partner with suarez

Winger ( LW-Turan )

LB ( Coentrao )

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29 Jan 2011 09:40:38
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Ed if torres was sold 2day, do u think we would quickly find a replacement of wait till summer? ?

{Editor's Note: Suarez would be the replacement and someone would be added if time allowed.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:38:31
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Im like alot of others, I think are main prob is gerrard and carra they continuously shout at players about miss passes but whenever they misplace any they don't even hold there hands up! Lucas is a prime example of a player whos afraid of stevie! Lets face it we play better without them, just look at the wolves and everton games when stevie was suppended! Plus everyone seems to forget he done this in 2005 when he wanted the chelsea move! Let torres go, we need player like alonso, sami, fowler, luis g even cisse, player who wanted to play for liverpool but didn't have there heads up there own apses! But 1 thing I do know is liverpool will still be here after torres gerro and carra!

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29 Jan 2011 09:37:46
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Its at times like this that I appreciate the loyalty and commitment shown by the likes of Lucas and Spearing - they may not be as technically gifted but they are the type of passionate players we have always been known for.

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29 Jan 2011 09:36:12
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On the face of it, Chelski have played a blinder here, much as I hate to say it. They waited until Man City had signed a big money striker, then moved for Torres having probably already smoothed things over with his agent. They seem very keen to do this deal now before the price shoots up in the summer when city will get involved. Their problem is NESV will not sell him unless they recieve a stupid bid, because if Chelski don't make one now, City will in the summer. Chelski simply aren't in a position to dictate terms. I was wondering, however, how his value will be effected once the new rules on spending come into force. Will it make him less attractive to other clubs? Is his agent trying to get a massive move (and presumably massive contract) now whilst teams can afford it?

{Editor's Note: Values should drop in the summer.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:35:49
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If Torres wants to go, thanks for the memories and thanks for the £50mill (you would expect).

For a player who hasn't given his all for two seasons and is injured more than he is not I don't think that is too bad a result although he will be missed. So lets get him replaced with some quality whilst adding a bit of depth. A new midlfielder, a winger(s), LB and another striker please. With £50mill you should be able to spend decent enough amounts on these players and obtain some players that actually want to play for the club.

Chilly

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29 Jan 2011 09:35:35
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Well so much for Torres loving Liverpool, and wudnt play for another premier league team cos of his love for Liverpool. Shud only sell him to a foreign team in that case.
I just hope all this is just a hoax, cos i can't believe Torres letting us down, as we have stood by him through all his injuries and poor form.
Feel downright cheated, if u love a team u really don't do this chit.

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29 Jan 2011 09:34:30
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All the rumours about who will replace torres if he goes are ok but i wonder if liverpool only paid the extra amount for suarez because they already knew torres was leaving. If he goes i would love to see llorente or aguero come in but to be honest knowing liverpool he will go and we won't sign anybody so we will be back to square one again. Cant understand people sticking up for torres this guy has been paid a lot of money for sitting on the treatment table and guys don't turn on carra and gerrard its not their fault just wish torres had their passion. Get out of our club get out of our club ungrateful little r**lard get out of our club

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29 Jan 2011 09:34:12
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Morning all, has there been some sort of bust up with torres and others? Can anyone enlighten me, ed? Woke up to the news this morning, mixed feelings, suarez not actually signed yet, likely to lose the best striker we've had in a long time. See no point in keeping unhappy players. Of one thing i'm certain he should be sold abroad. I genuinely dislike chelsea, but lets remmber what they are doing to us, we have just done to AJAX.

Muzmacol ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 09:33:40
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Nice and convenient Chelsea being in town today! !

All these people blaming carra and stevieg if words have been said it's only because he hasn't been showing the passion and class we once seen from him!

PLAYERS COME AND GO BUT LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL STANDS PROUD! !

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29 Jan 2011 09:33:11
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If torres leave won't that mean that aguero will go there to as he wants to play with torres?

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29 Jan 2011 09:32:47
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If Gerrard has been intimidating FT over poor performance then someone should think long and hard about his future at the club and whether he is good for the Team. Don't get me wrong - SG has been the Team in the past. It would be stupid not to acknowledge that.

But if there are cliques and an atmosphere of "us & them" we are never going to play as a Team and are never going to win the EPL.

Perhaps it is time to think the unthinkable and trade Gerrard while he still has a high transfer value and use the funds to help rebuild for the future. I know this is sacrilegious but, as many have posted about FT today, the Team comes first.

I find it ironic. Instead of intimidating FT, SG would have been better giving himself a bollocking, as he has been poor at times himself this season.

I know this will not be a popular post but, if the rumours of what have been going on in the dressing room and at Melwood are correct, then ignoring the problem would be a mistake.

I am gutted about the thought of FT leaving, just as he looked to have a great understanding with RM.

Grayswood

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29 Jan 2011 09:32:43
29 Jan 2011 08:45:23
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Ummm, can someone tell me why there is so much hate for arguably our greatest ever player stevie g? ed what has happened re him and torres? is it true?

{Editor's Note: I can't understand the levels of hate either.}

REALLY - can both of you be real:
1. Steven Gerrard is not the greatest Liverpool player ever, infact I can think of an All Time Liverpool XI that does not have him in it fairly easily
2. Is it hate - NO
3. Why do we not hold him in high regard? He appears at times selfish and conceited, is really a genuine bloke - no, do really nice guys do some of the things or keep some of the company he kept? Did we ever hear about these things from Xabi Alonso or El Nino - no - why - genuine people who loved their footie

There is no doubt Steven Gerrard has done alot for LFC but he is not the best we have had and for me I'd rather keep Torres and bag £25million for Gerrard right now!

RED PADDY

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29 Jan 2011 09:32:20
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LET TORRES GO TO CHELSEA FOR 60 MILLION.HE HAS DONE NOTHING FOR LFC FOR THE LAST 18 MONTH.
DO YOU THINK THAT SUAREZ WILL STILL COME TO LFC NOW?
GET A.YOUNG C ADAMS HULK

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29 Jan 2011 09:30:57
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If Gerrard has been intimidating FT over poor performance then someone should think long and hard about his future at the club and whether he is good for the Team. Don't get me wrong - SG has been the Team in the past. It would be stupid not to acknowledge that.

But if there are cliques and an atmosphere of "us & them" we are never going to play as a Team and are never going to win the EPL.

Perhaps it is time to think the unthinkable and trade Gerrard while he still has a high transfer value and use the funds to help rebuild for the future. I know this is sacrilegious but, as many have posted about FT today, the Team comes first.

I find it ironic. Instead of intimidating FT, SG would have been better giving himself a bollocking, as he has been poor at times himself this season.

I know this will not be a popular post but, if the rumours of what have been going on in the dressing room and at Melwood are correct, then ignoring the problem would be a mistake.

I am gutted about the thought of FT leaving, just as he looked to have a great understanding with RM.

Grayswood

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29 Jan 2011 09:30:08
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29 Jan 2011 04:15:21
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Ed pls post;
I've never been so gutted as I am today, I never thought a player like him would stabb us in the back we took him as an average player and turned him in to a world beater he is today, and what does he do to thank us? I don't have a problem if he came out and said i want to leave for barca or an Italian team, but i do have a problem because its an english team that's the hardest to take.

ed do you think Liverpol will/ should report chelsea to the FA, UEFA and FIFA. And we sell him "sorry can't say his name :"(" against his wishes to another club, e.g. if Man city came in and outbidded these chavs then liverpool can floge him to city and he can't do anything about it because he's already handed a transfer request.

Theba300 :"(. {ed's note - you have to prove tapping up and even then Chelsea will just appeal and have any sentence overturned. I would just sell him to the highest bidder if he is set on leaving.}

i would wait till summer then sell him to anyone but chelsea. but make sure we get big money man city would out bid chelsea anyday lol

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29 Jan 2011 09:29:25
Come on guys, its ok if torres leaves. We'll have 50 MILLION and ANELKA at lfc. Anelka already said before that he wished he had never left liverpool, and now we'll have suarez and anelka upfront. We also have that 50 milllion to get a replacement for torres and to get a couple of wingers. imagine us getting turan, adam, honda and a quality striker (aguero, llorente, gervinho, etc) at the expense of torres leaving, who has only played a couple of good games this season. Would certainly cushion the blow and make us a btter team! Good times ahead, even without torres!

YoungRed

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29 Jan 2011 09:27:27
How good would it be if torres does leave for chavski and we knock them out of the number four spot

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29 Jan 2011 09:27:04
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First time posting , long time reader. Chelsea to offer £45m plus daniel sturridge! Personally I would bite there hand off. If nando wants to go the let the lad go, I personally believe that kenny and commolli new all about him wanting out and I believe that they agreed to wait and see if we couild bring in a top striker in suarez to replace him. Just think what we can do with 45million!
Dave The Irish

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29 Jan 2011 09:25:06
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29 Jan 2011 08:22:58
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Hi guys first post here.

Not being funny but why should we let Torres leave now? So what he puts in a transfer request? I think the owners are definitely in their right to say "absolutely not, you signed a long term contract with us"

its only in european football that players are in control of the club and not managers and chairmen. They think they have the right to get paid 100k per week plus, sign a new contract to get MORE money for a longer time and then 2 months later say "well maybe I do want to leave" quite frankly, regardless of his wages we have torres for 4 more years why not ruin him and make him rot in the reserves!?

we are liverpool fc and we don't get ruled by a player. it will definitely put out a statement!

Thanks

CanadianRed

No use cutting off our nose to spite our face.If and that's IF he really wants to leave then the club should get as much as possible for him.I think they want and will start a bidding war by going public. No use putting him in ressies for rest of his contract.We don't know whats happening but for him to request a transfer suggests that someone has really got to him. If this turns out to be true then that person should be sold as well.
Ozdave
P.S. Glad to see that you were wrong about Suarez Ed. . .

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29 Jan 2011 09:24:02
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What is benzemas and agueros transfer clause

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29 Jan 2011 09:23:33
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Torres handed in a transfer request on Friday morning because he wasn't happy Liverpool had signed no one and dalglish knew thus so immediately contacted Henry and raised the price for suarez not to plz torres but to make him look like aplank similar to what feguson did to Rooney and the whole tevez saga.anyway Liverpool agreed a deal for suarez bit rejected torres request after they agreed the suarez deal and they could have not said anything but dalglish wanted to know whether he was really comittes like Reina. Therefore torres will now release a statement saying he thought the club lacked ambition because we had sighned noone(like Rooney)but has held talks wid dalglish and would like to stay.but we know dalglish and he us willing to sell him in da summer cuz he will face three months to fund a replacement

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29 Jan 2011 09:21:01
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I would like all Lfc fans not to screw the lad.he has given us lots of nice moments.but time is running out.he'll be 26 in march and he wants to win titles.In fact, besides the world cup with Spain, Torres has actually won nothing.after so many broken promises, we can't expect him to stay at Lfc.But Lfc is a team and we have to get over that and keep moving forward without nailing the lad.

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Steve Gerrard wants to win titles. He's 30 and time has almost definitely run out. But he's committed to the club and his contract.

Torres has indeed had broken promises. However, it's the first transfer window after getting rid of those who broke promises (Hicks and Gillett). The club has just spent £23m on Suarez and lfc has a decent manager who will bring out the absolute best in him. Torres should be ashamed of himself making this request now without giving the real club (as in not a club run by a couple of lying cowboys!) one final chance until the end of the season. With Torres, Suarez and a couple new faces we can put on a final push for 4th and we can do it.

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29 Jan 2011 09:20:47
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Ed, why would liverpool leak that to the media saying we rejected his transfer request?? we should kept it quiet. what do u think? ?

{Editor's Note: It would get out through his agent anyway - probably in to the Spanish press.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:19:01
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Ed could torres be sold in this window

{Editor's Note: Of course.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:18:46
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I'd jst like to say something in regards to the torres situation
I'm a 13 yr old who since torres signed has been one of his biggest fans and my room is decorated with him (5 autografs 10 posters and all my liver pool shirts read torres9) i slept out just to get his autograf once and this is how he repays us without saying gudbye. Ill still loove him no matter what, but i think hed be making the biggest mistake of his life and doesn't truly realise what he is doing.
Believable if you agree
The Red who Never Gives In

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29 Jan 2011 09:18:25
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''Hey ed, why not sell torres to city for 40 million plus richards and johnson that way we will win and chelsea can get stuffed and so can torres, because in a years time he will become the new Adebayor, {ed's note - I would take that deal.}''

. . with the 40m (+ other sales, remember) buy a top notch CF. . Gomez?. Hulk?. .or even a cheap bid for Crouch with the bulk of the money re-invested elsewhere in the squad - Hazard? Defour? (Suarez and Crouch would be potentially a great partnership). . also what do people think about the possibility of Bojan / Suarez partnership? Great player, not getting enough games who would certainly not cost 40M. . . .

The fact remains that I will be gutted if he goes, but he is not irreplaceable. .Suarez/ Crouch. . Suarez/ Gomez. . Suarez/ Bojan. . Suarez/ Ageuro. . Suarez/ Anelka. . Suarez/ Hulk. . all are better than what we currently have, and if it meant we also got Richards, Johnson ++++then we are better off for the deal, especially if he wants to go anyway?? ?

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29 Jan 2011 09:16:52
29 Jan 2011 08:45:13
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There is alot of people slagging torres off i agree with most people sell him but he has been great for us so y give him a hard time
ynwa
dw
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If he leaves us for chelski then he has betrayed us
We don't sell to english clubs and he knows it
I could understand if it was barca that we interested or had bid, but not chelski especially i have noticed in recent years that the hatred of liverpool and chelski has grown and indeed i now hate them in the same bracket as the scum or the bluenoses
I will dislike torres with a passion if he leaves i was ok with everyone else leaving xabi masch etc but not torres he has done enough for us to love him and he shouldnt do this to us once again the liverpool name is getting held to ransom and hurt

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29 Jan 2011 09:15:37
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Chelsea after Aguero, Godin and Luiz, the negotiations with Atletico hit trouble so they make bids for Torres, well below value, then go public about them. This is simply about telling Atletico that they will either get Aguero or make sure Liverpool have the money to get him themselves. Sky have spent all morning trying to find an ex-Liverpool player to say that Torres is interested in the move, they have yet to find one, the best they could do is Aldridge saying that every player has his price. This is a non-story, simple as that, being stirred up for their betting market. If Hodgson had still been in charge Torres would have left, but things have changed.

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29 Jan 2011 09:14:53
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It now looks like Torres is desperate to leave Liverpoo FC.
So in my opinion what we should do is tell him he is here until the end of the season and then we will listen to offers BUT Liverpool FC will sell him to who they like and will not be held to ransome for the club he wants i.e Chelski.
We should then inform Barca , Manc City and others to his availability and sit back and let the bidding war begin, If Liverpool play this right we should end up with a sizeable transfer fee and maybe a couple of decent players thrown in for good measure.
If he is to go Liverpool should dictate the negotiations for the benefit of our Great Club.
DONT let any other club have him cheap, If we are after players they squeeze every last penny out of us so lets do the same.
Y.N.W.A. .

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29 Jan 2011 09:13:41
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Hi ed, moving away from this Torres saga do you think we will make any more signings in the next few days? And if so, what are the players you are thinking? My guess is Charles N'zogbia and Charlie Adam.

{Editor's Note: I still expect someone to come in and your guess looks pretty good.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:13:09
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So Ed Fernando wants to leave fair enough.We should remember this, he has stuck with us through some really bad times, he could have asked to leave then, He has scored us some fantastic goals.I always remember an old saying before any decision.Is the grass really greener on the other side of the fence?

Whatever happens I wish him the best and thank him for his service (if he goes?).If we get offered silly money like 50 or 60 mill + player like Sturridge Chelsea or Adam Johnson Man City then fine

We have time to sign a replacement and hey hello Aguero £40 mill. Then we need a RW+ LB and we are in good shape for the rest of the season.

NO ONE PLAYER IS BIGGER THAN THIS HISTORIC CLUB.

REDFORLIFE

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29 Jan 2011 09:12:59
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I think we should let Torres go, but only if we get Anelka or Sturridge as part of the deal. We could then look at filling the voids on the flanks and at left back. I do also think it's a case of Torres being forced out by Gerrard and Carra! As a club we need to rebuild and start from scratch but let's hope Suarez can be the player to replace Torres and lead the line for us.

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29 Jan 2011 09:10:45
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If Torres goes- he goes, so what. Its happened before to better players than him, allthough he is good. No-one is bigger than L.F.C. (Gerrard inc) The king is dead, long live the king.

HE BIT SOMEONE AND HE GOT BANNED - -SUAREZ SUAREZ
HE, S NOT AFRAID TO USE HIS HAND - SUAREZ SUAREZ
HE, S HERE TO HELP US FINISH TOP
TO BE A HERO FOR THE KOP
LOUIS SUAREZ - THE LAD FROM URAGUAY
NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA SUAREZ SUAREZ

lifelong red

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29 Jan 2011 09:09:07
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Sad to say but let him go if he wants to go, as long as the money is right. Ed, now that we look like losing one of our better players, we the fans will be unhappy for a bit, cheer us up if you can, give us all your inside info on targets for this and/ or summer window. Cheers.

{Editor's Note: Let's just wait and see what happens over the next couple of days.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:08:35
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Ed! How about Torres out in the summer and bring in llorente, sanchez and turan?

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29 Jan 2011 09:08:34
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Sell to the highest bidder. There has never been a better time.
Dalglish sold Ian Rush in 1987 and brought in such players as Barnes Beardsley & Aldridge and in my opinion it improved the side & what a side it was.
Strikers come and go Rush Owen Collymore Fowler and Torres.
Rebuild with money again King Kenny

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29 Jan 2011 09:08:33
It would be heartbreaking to see nando play for another team in the epl but if he don't want to play for us get as much as we can and move on. hopefully saurez can do his job maybe not as good as torres yet but hang on look at his scoring record, nandos at madrid no way near as good but look what happend when he came to us, suarez scores all the time dutch league not as higher standard but christ surly the goals are the same size one more thing lets not take the shine of suarez if he signs so lets show how important and what a big signing he is for the club

molbys big toe

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29 Jan 2011 09:07:07
The more I think about the Torres situation, the more it seems to me that the situation has been contrived. The club, in my opinion, has been aware all along, that Torres wanted to leave, and could not make this public until the Suarez transfer was completed. If this is the case, then all the club is doing is replacing a proven quality striker with an unproven potentially quality striker. Again the club is moving in a backwards direction or a best standing still eg Aquilani for Alonso, any rubbish centre midfielder for Mascherano and no go Joe Cole for Benyoun. Unless the powers that be are working frantically in the background and there is going be another 2 or 3 quality signings this window, then all I can see is this as another step towards the sad sad sad demise of the proudest club in the land.
I can't knock the lad though. For all his talent, and the age that he is, now is the time for him to try and better his trophy count. But not Chelski or Citeh. PLEASE.

Stu the Red

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29 Jan 2011 09:06:30
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Torres going. . it happens. . how do you think Ajax fans are feeling losing the Dutch footballer of the year Saurez. LFC need to either get as much £s as possible or persuade him to stay. . which i'm sure they're trying to do this weekend.

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29 Jan 2011 09:06:21
29 Jan 2011 06:24:05
His armband said he was a red torres torres
but now hes chosen blue instead torres torres
it could be worse he could be a manc
and think of the money into our bank
fernando torres ex liverpool number nine

He could have been a legend here torres torres
but now he's getting nowhere near torres torres
wish him luck he's on his way
Hope he regrets the move someday
fernando torres ex liverpool number nine

they tapped him up all season long torres torres
he helped them out by hanging on torres torres
remember the way we sang your name
you'll never hear it sang again
you should hang your head in shame
fernando torres ex liverpool number nine
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Quality i hope he rots on the bench of wherever he goes

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29 Jan 2011 09:05:00
So Nando wants the blues?

He can have them, but not on the cheap.

Get rid for as much as we can, let him join the ageing chelsea team in decline, and let him watch as after the summer we have the squad challenging on all fronts with depth and youth, and with extra quality fom players brought in/ youth promoted.

All Torres' talk has been shown to be a hollow ring of rubbish, and he has tried to use our great club only as a stepping stone.

If he loved our club as much as he claimed, why wait until it is too late in the window to replace him?

Sorry son, the players of our past have shown more strength, dignity, loyalty, and in my honest opinion, quality.

You may not agree with me, but we have had bigger and better leave in the past and we still came through stronger and winning.

We are Liverpool Football Club, Not Torres plaything til he gets bored

Red4Ever

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29 Jan 2011 09:04:28
Rumour was the Surez said he would not sign if Torres was sold. Mr Ed., is this true and how will this effect the Surez deal?

{Editor's Note: It won't - Torres' transfer request was rejected and the Suarez deal is nearly complete.}

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29 Jan 2011 09:03:50
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Citeh have the better chance of winning the league than chelsea, and we don't want the &&&& to win it do we?
so lets sell torres to citeh

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29 Jan 2011 09:01:06
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The word this morning is the Torres transfer will go through and a fee of 38mil plus Daniel Sturrige.
Now what I've heard is that that will only happen if the Reds can Hijack Diego Forlan's move to spurs, they had agreed a fee of 9mil but his wages of 80k a week are proving a to be the problem and they're trying to offload Robbie Keane.
So anfield could well see the Uruguayan strike force!
Suarez will be delighted I'd imagin and a big factor in pursuading Diego joining.
Not sure about the Adam stuff yet but Liverpool did offer Jay Spearing to blackpool as a loan as part of the deal.
AP. . . . . . . . . .

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29 Jan 2011 09:00:28
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Sad to see any player say they don't want to play for us anymore but what can you do about it at the end of the day! if anybody tells me that if we sell torres for around 40 million and bring in 3 15 millions players that we won't become a much stronger side then you must be deluded! fair play when torres was on it he is unstoppable but how many days has he been on it recently?? and remember he is potentially always just one game away from his next injury and those sort of recurring niggles just don't go away overnight and certainly don't go away with age! if we were already willing to spend the suarez money before we knew torres was offski then we should be ok. just bring in turan, adam and maybe top class forward and we can all move on with confidence! one final point. .verbal abuse? if by this he means players bollocking him for not putting in a shift on the pitch then (they were right to do so becuz i know for one i was screaming the exact same things at him in those games) so we are much better off without him! the futures bright the futures biege

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29 Jan 2011 08:59:37
Did everyone have a good night's sleep?

Keith YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 08:59:03
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All this talk about torres being a certainty to leave liverpool. I think that sure torres is discouraged by the past 2 seasons and i can't blame him for at least 'Turning his head' at an offer from premier league champions. I'm as much a liverpool fan as the next guy but remember the extreme high's he has taken us to! the goals against arsenal and inter in champions league his goals against manure and chelsea. If King Kenny still has the fighting spirit he had 20 odd years ago he WILL keep torres from leaving remember everyone when we walk through a storm we hold our heads up high and most of all WE NEVER WALK ALONE

Torres to stay

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29 Jan 2011 08:58:58
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Torres should be only allowed to go if we have a player lined up to replace him. It's bad enough he wants to leave but the club shouldn't have to suffer to please his selfish wishes.

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29 Jan 2011 08:58:46
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If we sold Torres and got a pile of cash for him then we could certainly target Aguero but would he come and could we afford to meet his wage demands?

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29 Jan 2011 08:58:44
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The guy who said we got Terry Mac , when Keegan left. I can only presume you shoot from the lip, if you don't know your history look it up before you post,

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29 Jan 2011 08:58:38
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Get him out of our club NOW! !
Sell him to the highest bidder, come on citeh show your cash 60-70 million, If Chelsea want him they will have to Pay.
This could be a blessing Suarez fought for a transfer to our great club, that's the type of player we want and need.
We have been through this before with a striker the following year we won the Champions League

Trust King Kenny
He's not called King for nothing!

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29 Jan 2011 08:56:01
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Spurs were looking at forlan- with £9million the reported figure, but his wages were the stumbling block!
Surely NESV could pay his wages. Quality signing if el nino decides to betray us!

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29 Jan 2011 08:55:58
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed the only problem i have wiv torres leaving is us not having a proven EPL striker as we can't afford time for a full front line to settle in. personally i would try to persuade him to stay till summer where a agreement would be i place for him to leave for 45m. if not i would sell him to chelsea now and take 40m plus anelka or sell to man city for 35m and johnson and richards. but never the less we need to get quality in. i would much rather him stay still summer as long as he will be committed to the cause but i don't think he will. also as he says he has been verbally attacked it will be by one of two players both are gettin old and think they are BIGGER than LFC. personally i would sell gerrard and push carra to the reserves and replace with sakho and sahin.

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29 Jan 2011 08:55:55
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Were all talking about buying someone who loves LFC. Torres loves LFC , he has never said a bad word against them! He's not the type of person who is attracted by money! Look at his personal life, when do you hear of him crashing his car, getting into fights, sleeping with escorts, or being involved in any other scandal. He got married to his wife in a small ceremony , no media (no money). We have a player who is as loyal as they come! The only plausible reason for him handing in this request is because of an incident! That we will probably never get the truth about! But i would put my house on it being SG and JC! Disgraceful!
People are crying out for people for whom irbid an honour to wear the badge (Turan) , what's the point, when these two players would probably end up bullying them into leaving!
These two players need to be bought down a peg or two!
Any sensible fan can see this!

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29 Jan 2011 08:54:52
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Looks like Torres is off, unless Kenny works some miracles. You never know now Suarez has signed he might want to stay. Dont worry remember the last Star striker to leave so he could fulfill his career (Judas). Hopefully we get £60 million and sign Aguero an Turan!
YNWA

Ed would it be possible to sign them two? and how much for?

{Editor's Note: Not right now I am afraid.}

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29 Jan 2011 08:53:12
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I have just heard that real madrid are now in for torres with a cash plus player reported to be £50 mil plus benzemma my mate is a physio at real he told me late last night, not been able to sleep with this torres saga don't think we should get rid what do you think ed.

{Editor's Note: It won't be £50M plus Benzema, but there may be interest.}

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29 Jan 2011 08:50:46
I have a feeling that he will move to Chelski and we would just pip them to the final CL spot by the end of the season. But I really hope that Torres, wins the league (wherever it is) and the CL before end of his career, he truly derserves it.
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Tell me why he deserves what has he done he scored a few goals and took a place in our heartsnif he leaves i hope hs team suffers and so does he
If it is chelski i would love stevie or jamie or anyone to go in with a full blooded tackle which will hurt it may sound harsh or bitter but i don't care
He betrays us than he shall and he will pay
We will watch him crawl back to anfield next season with his blue top on with his great name on the back and we shoukd give him hell no player does this to lfc and no player should get away with it

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29 Jan 2011 08:49:23
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I hope Everton beat Chelsea today.

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29 Jan 2011 08:48:35
Liverpool Rumours
Hey ed, just trying to clear this apparent change in Torres mindset- my mate, young english squad player, has informed me that there has been no recent bust-up between FT and SG/ JC, there was previously during the Hodgson era but nothing significant since KK came back. He claims that SG/ JC have been very heavy on the "everyone sticking together and fighting for the club" stance during training etc and that because of previous problems between them, Torres views this as a constant digg at him, because of his open discontent under hodgson. My mate is really surprised that it has come to this, he's good mate's with SG/ JC and backs them claiming they are only doing what's right by the club ( i disagree with him as it goes).
As i posted some weeks back, Torres was happy as long as the club showed intent on investing, however he must have become bored with the self-righteousness of our local boys!
Roger over and out

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29 Jan 2011 08:48:08
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Hopefully this happened, after we played fulham on the 26th, the squad remembered that they didn't have a game for a week. The decided to go out and celebrate carras 33rd birthday a nite early (27th) cause there was no training on the 28th and torres hade a few too many drinks causing him to do all this! What do you think of that ed?

{Editor' Note: That has to be it.}

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29 Jan 2011 08:45:23
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Ummm, can someone tell me why there is so much hate for arguably our greatest ever player stevie g? ed what has happened re him and torres? is it true?

{Editor's Note: I can't understand the levels of hate either.}

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29 Jan 2011 08:45:13
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There is alot of people slagging torres off i agree with most people sell him but he has been great for us so y give him a hard time
ynwa
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29 Jan 2011 08:41:39
Fernando - If you leave now it could be the biggest mistake you ever make, King Kenny would have made you a GOD.
Liverpool Football club will survive without you, and we'll never forget you. (once the disappointment passes).
Hope Carra's fit in a fortnight sure his first tackle will be interesting.
Only hope any deals done are for the best interest of LFC and screw every last £ from Chelski no less than £50m

I for one wish you good luck in what ever you do it'll be your Loss, players have come and gone in the past and we still survive. I can remember Keegan leaving and was gutted at the time but was replaced by a true LEGEND which turned out to be the best thing that happened to LFC in my era.
YNWA

Beggers

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29 Jan 2011 08:41:20
Liverpool Rumours
Why would we post this on the official web site if they will consider letting him go? We all know a new bid will be submitted and everyone else with a bit of money will now be linked until 11.59 on the 31st.

One thing will happen - he will stay this season, after that one of two things will happen:

1) He will leave for a decent sum, who cares who to, but guess I would prefer abroad
2) He will change his mind, just like Stevie G!

So now lets start to think about the other 3 signings that Macca has mentioned, after all you have to agree he has been pretty much right thus far!

"Liverpool FC have confirmed that Fernando Torres has on Friday evening submitted a transfer request. The request has been rejected.

The Club said in a statement: "Fernando Torres tonight submitted a written transfer request, which has been rejected by Liverpool.

"Fernando is under a long-term contract and the Club expects him to honour the commitment he made to Liverpool FC and its supporters when he signed the agreement."

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29 Jan 2011 08:38:45
So we sell Torres say 50m , I like most people on here would like to see aguero but it's Not going to be that easy . Alot of people on here think it's Going to be as easy as buying a pint of milk from the shops , we will have money so his price will go up he mite not want to move they would be very little time to pull this deal of and not sure him and Suarez would work together

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29 Jan 2011 08:32:27
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Torres has been grat for us in the past but if torres wants to go then let him only in the summer, he said i want a new strike partner and when we get him 1 he wants to leave. in the summer we could get pato or aguero and contraio and mata. i think we shound demand 65m for torres. then if nesv put about 20m to that we could have all these players.
ynwa
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29 Jan 2011 08:31:17
Torres offski
Do you guys honestly think this has only come to light now this has been on the cards all of jan liverpool have just keep things under wraps so if he leaves i would expect there to be a surprise signing on deadline day which will soften the blow of torres leaving maybe not the same calibre of ft but still a big name regardless have faith boys also just to add i read a rumour on this site at the end of dec saying get to the bookies and put your house on torres or gerrrard leaving in jan guess gerrard won that battle if you catch my drift

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29 Jan 2011 08:29:14
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Torres broke my heart last nite absolutley gutted! !

but i say we say to chelsea give us £50 million then he's urs .as far as i am concerned torres is out of order we finally show some intent with suarez, new owners , king kenny and more players likley to come in , and he wants to leave us in the lurch in january , i dnt wanna see him in our shirt no more why keep him if he is just gonna go in the summer i say use that money to get saurez new partner in now so they have time to gel for next season

agureo , llorente, negredo, benzema, jovetic,

may have to pay over the odds but so what lets not keep torres wen he is obviously not part of our future

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29 Jan 2011 08:28:42
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Hang on a minute how and why would steven gerrard and jamie carragher drive the worlds best striker out of one of the worlds clubs
They wouldn't stab us in the back also would they
I know the ed thinks that stevie has too much power but why would he get rid of our best player
If indeed true

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29 Jan 2011 08:26:36
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Have we gone back in time it the stevie G story all over again

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29 Jan 2011 08:24:54
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For what reason does torres want to leave. it was only a few weeks ago that he was saying how he intends on seeing out his contract at liverpool and i think that was said when dalglish had just come in. I think that if he wants to leave then we need to let him go. no players is bigger than the club, so if he intends on disrespecting the club and the fans by handing in a trasnfer request after saying he wants to stay, then we need to let him go to whoever for the highest price possible, and buy some players that really do want to play for the club.

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29 Jan 2011 08:23:08
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Why is everyone so upset about Torres, let's not forget he spends half a season on average in the injury room. I say wait for 50 m and get rid and go for lorente or carrol a big target man with strength. Maybe even hungriest on the cheap.

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29 Jan 2011 08:22:58
Liverpool Rumours
Hi guys first post here.

Not being funny but why should we let Torres leave now? So what he puts in a transfer request? I think the owners are definitely in their right to say "absolutely not, you signed a long term contract with us"

its only in european football that players are in control of the club and not managers and chairmen. They think they have the right to get paid 100k per week plus, sign a new contract to get MORE money for a longer time and then 2 months later say "well maybe I do want to leave" quite frankly, regardless of his wages we have torres for 4 more years why not ruin him and make him rot in the reserves!?

we are liverpool fc and we don't get ruled by a player. it will definitely put out a statement!

Thanks

CanadianRed

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29 Jan 2011 08:20:31
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Torres wants to go, so let him. We are Liverpool and as KK said, no one is bigger than the club.

Sell Torres for as much as possible (certainly not £30m including or plus players - that is nowhere near enough). My humble view, given the timing and lack of opportunity to realistically bring in top quality alternatives during this window, is that we should not let him go for less than £60m.

If this price is achievable, let him go and retain our dignity by wishing him well. We will survive and will improve under KK.

For the rest of this season, now that we are by and large safe but also unlikely to break into the top4 even with Torres, we should promote and fully test our younsters, particularly Pacheco who deserves a real opportunity. Kuyt is a fantastic worker for the team and a true striker(rather than a winger), so lets utilise him up front on his own with Suarez in the hole behind. Go out and buy a winger now if possible (Turan anyone?) and as I say, promote the youngsters and give some of them more of a chance.

Then, with a third of a season benefiting the youngsters, and a longer period for the Management Team to look at new players in the summer, rebuild using the Torres money plus (hopefully) money from the owners to bring in real quality and depth to the squad.

When LFC were at the very top, we regularly sold players (I remember how gutted I was when Souness was sold, he was our captain and key to the team at the time), but the key is getting full value for reinvestment and getting quality replacements and I for one trust KK to get this more right than wrong.

Lets retain our dignity, wish Nando well, take the money and look forward to a great summer of improvement. I really do trust John, Tom and KK to get this right.

YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 08:20:03
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Gutted this morning to wake up to the transfer request. After all the waiting for a new signing and we get this on the same day. It's a pitty because now it's took the shine off the good news.

I don't think that we should let him go until the summer so we aren't left light in the striker departement. Wait until the summer, don't sulk around and play your best until the time the club lets you go Nando.

Poo doo raymondo!

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29 Jan 2011 08:18:20
I don't want any player part of the deal. none are good enougth. why are people saying 50mill and anelka, that is not acceptable.

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29 Jan 2011 08:18:07
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Firstly didn't we turn down £70m for Torres 18 months ago?? I know he's been injured but he's been getting back to his best the last few weeks and hasn't been injured recently so I hope we get that or near that figure.

Secondly I'll be gutted if he does leave but I think some of you are being a little harsh on him.

If you get a new job and they give you the "pool" car an Astra but they say your Bentley's on order and it doesn't arrive are you going to be happy with that?

We finished 2nd 20months ago in the league and until this window we've not invested in the aquad with additional money (we've sold to buy); if your promised something and it's not given then it's your right to make a choice.

If Gerrard was a couple of years younger he'd probably be at Real madrid now; trouble is he's in a position now where he cannot leave now.

So lets hope he's convinced to stay (as long as he's happy and plays to his full potential) and if not lets hope we get the money we want for him and wish him well.

What he needs to remember though is the grass isn't always greener (see mascharno @ Barca). And Chelsea's squad isn't coping with injuries well at the moment and needs a lot of investment. So if I was him it wouldn't be my first choice.

Hoola

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29 Jan 2011 08:18:02
Liverpool Rumours
Loyalty? Anybody in football these days heard the word? They certainly don't understand it!
Time to start again at LFC get rid of Torres Gerrard Carragher and rebuild!
When Gerrard doesn't play the whole team don't feel the need to have to make every move through him so we flow! When he plays he sulks and whinges when he doesn't get the ball! He created the idea Liverpool are a one man team! I say get rid! Let Kenny rebuild our great club with players who want to wear our great shirt not a bunch of prima donnas!

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29 Jan 2011 08:17:35
Liverpool Rumours
Ive got a feeling that suarez will now not agree personal terms as nando is leaving or wants to leave. Maybe he is doing what shrek and carlos did hand in request to get a bigger salary and bonuses
But if he wants to leave let him tell suarez he will stay until the end of the season and get him to sign before accepting stupid money from citeh chelski and anyone else

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29 Jan 2011 08:14:33
Liverpool Rumours
Ed when did torres hand in his transfer requested
The press saying last night but it now seems like it was a few days ago? , if so do you think this why they double the suarez Bid Maybe keep him happy as his said in the past he would stay if the owners got some big names in

Wee don

{Editor' Note: Yesterday I understand.}

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29 Jan 2011 08:14:31
Its a shame torres won't jOin Real madrid.(or even citeh) imagine the players which could be involved. Benzema, alonso. Milner, johnson, richards.
But i lOok at chelseas. And i literaly see no one who i would want. Still don't have a clue why he wants chelsea. But then i suppose there the only one to have bid, i still expect our owners to sell in summer imo. We have to say nothing less than 80mill though. Same as ronaldo. On top of money owners were gonna spend, which was going to be more than january. 50mill maybe+aquilani. Were talking like 140mill to rebuild our club.

Harry5

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29 Jan 2011 08:13:27
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Its no good slagging Gerrard and Carra for Torres wanting to leave. They have given everything for Liverpool, they are the club captains and deserve to have their high standing in the club. Carra may be past his best but we have obviously missed his organising at the back, and I'm all for dishing out rollickings to the players when they don't put the effort in.

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29 Jan 2011 08:12:42
I trust kenny in all this torres episode, questions for everyone will sulky puss if he he doesn't go by the Stoke game give 100%?, How will the fans greet him?

I personally hope we don't beg to his demands and give him a new mega wages deal which i presume Suarez has got, get 55 to 60 million thanks for the goals and lets totally rebuild.

NO ONE BUT NO ONE IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB! !

If he does sulk he will walk alone

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29 Jan 2011 08:09:28
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Hi ed i agree that Gerrard is the only person at the club right now that can persuade Torres to stay but don't you thin that the owners should ask him what he wants them to do for him to stay

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29 Jan 2011 08:08:30
Chelsea bid under 40m and look to bid again on Monday uless there will to pay 60m plus I'd turn it down as we not have time to spend the money and it would leaves us with one good forward who mite still flop in the pl

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29 Jan 2011 08:08:01
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Liverpool will sell Torres for between 35-40 mill plus Anelka, they will also signed Benzama from Madrid, they have an understanding from their time with france. We will then go for turan or Young, a left back will also be signed not sure who though. GJ will move to right wing and things will look much brighter.
Grazer1975

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29 Jan 2011 08:07:42
Liverpool Rumours
I work for a well known university in Liverpool that has a top sports science building and we are just waiting for Suarez to arrive for his medical !

100% truth.

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29 Jan 2011 08:06:43
Liverpool Rumours
Torres to sign a new 5 year contract with LFC for £160,000 a week by Monday!
Dan the red

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29 Jan 2011 08:05:39
Liverpool Rumours
Good keep Torres until the summer more clubs will be in for him man c , Chelsea , Barcelona , inter and ac milan
It's good to see the nesv showing some balls you don't see blackpool backing down over Adam

Wee don

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29 Jan 2011 08:04:51
NESV didn't show any ambition at the start of the window. Frankly Torres saw nothing happening to strengthen the team. Players want to win trophies and not waste their best years in sides that promise a lot and deliver nothing. If the building phase is taking this kind of shape and face than any top class player will want out.
Rightly LFC have the right to turn down the request for a transfer. They should wait for Man c in the summer and get the most for him. Than use that money on players of quality and not for anything else.Unless we are prepared to spend huge amounts of money don't expect miracles. Nesv have done nothing than sign a single player. We need them to make a statement in this window and show their intend to keep our best players. They have made us look stupid by following Suarez and finally paying the money towards the end.
Wake up guys this isn't the way professional clubs are run. Man c doesn't waste time when they want to get the players they want. Our owners have no money to compete at the top level face it.

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29 Jan 2011 08:04:41
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Torres has wanted to leave for a long time. Rafa left, club out of champions league. Hick and Gillette left. Club was sold. His knee was really badly damaged, his world cup ruined by hicks and rafa.

its been a bit of mess at liverpool for the last two years. They are now a mid table team. The new owners don't have oil money. Staying at Liverpool is hurting Torres career. Plus they almost crippled him.

If i was him, i would gone Barcelona or real Madrid in January 2010. He must of known it was all over for LFC back then.

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Oh dear, we have mancs on the site

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29 Jan 2011 08:03:34
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Wasnt the suarez deal resting on torres staying? we need that to go through and be finalised soon before we consider torres moving on - i can't believe the news ive woken up to. .

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29 Jan 2011 08:03:25
The only silver lining to this dark cloud is knowing that fergie would love to have torres, but united can't afford him!

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29 Jan 2011 08:02:05
Well like everyone else I am feeling delfated after the proposed signing of L S.
It is ironic mind you as hasbeen previously written, it was only weeks ago when people wrote about sell the lazy, injured, sulking, past it Torres! But yet now scream and wail because he is going.
But i have felt and said things about the new owners and lack of movement in the transfer window up until yesterday? But here is where the talking points begin!
This seems to have started days ago? Is the signing of LS now because of what may be the impending departure of FT?? ??
If FT goes in this window? Who would or could partner him?
I have read on here and this is the scary part, that is this a new Chelsea manager wish list.
Could this be the start of Rafa Benitez shopping list as new Chelsea manager?
Why Would an ageing Chelsea on the slide suddenly be on FT wish list to go to, play for, more worryingly why leave LFC to go there? is it about wages and money? or is there more to it?
Do we deal now or in the summer? do we keep an unhappy player and risk causing problems in the dressing room?
Do we start a bidding war and get what is best for us at LFC.
Who would you take if we get £? Millions and a player, Sturridge or Anelka or both?
Who do we buy? it poses so many questions with out as many answers. Roumer mill goes in to meltdown.
But to finish, Aldridge said yesterday on LFC TV.
He was devasted when we sold Keegan!
We went out and brought Kenny!
We where in shock when we sold Rushy.
Kenny went out and brought: Aldridge, Beardsley, Barnes and Houghton.
No one man is more important than LFC(except Kenny mind you)lol
But I have to say, in Kenny I trust, in LFC I believe,
we are Liverpool Football Club! and you will never walk alone. . . .
I for one will keep the faith.
Thanks ED(all of you, for a great site)
Kiwi

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29 Jan 2011 08:00:31
Liverpool Rumours
I can't believe we didn't see this coming, think about what beach have said all along bring in young players and see on at a profit, and everyone agreed brilliant tactic setting up for the future, well that's what there doing with torres, there a business and were just the mugs who fund there pockets,

I have no hard feelings for torres as he lite the pitch up on many occasions, but was promised the world and like many lfc fans was given nothing ,

And before anyone slates me I have a season ticket in the paddock and have for 20yrs


Trillionaire

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29 Jan 2011 07:58:32
Torres needs to realise any player who leaves Liverpool their career goes down, and also he will never witness playing in the most football purist arena as Anfield, with the greatest sight in Football singing YNWA.
I do feel Fernando loves Liverpool and if only Gillette & Hicks bought 1 quality striker to accompany him up front we would have won the Premiership, and be in a great place now.

Liverpool with a few players and 8 travellers have beaten all the best teams in Europe with their multi million pound squads, and only haven't won the premiership because of depth of squad.
The new owners have delivered a great striker in Suarez on the first window, which should make Torres delighted to try out the partnership which could really explode and push us up the table big time.
On top of getting Suaraez, by getting Adam and Nzobia to steel up the midfield, with Turam and Hazard whizing up and down the flanks is seriously a Premier league winning possibility.

All the teams at the top have to play each other so they will all drop points, and as we can beat anybody at the top, s there is nothing to stop us from getting into 4th. This is seriously possible.

Fernando please take note, -Stevie G made the most important decision ever to turn down Chelsea and then lift the Champions League, with his place in History as a truly great player who didn't sell out and Karma rewarded him with lifting the greatest prize in Football in Istanbul.

If Torres wins the League at Chelsea deep down it will mean nothing, as there is a huge difference winning the Premiership with Liverpool and winning it with Chelsea, i.e Chelsea's victory parade is down the Kings road in less time than a match, where on the flip side he should look at the homecoming from Istanbul.

I know fans at Chelsea, Arsenal, Man.City, Blackburn, who deep down know their identity has been sold just to win the league, with Man.U soon to be owed by Qatar.
I have been to all of their ground and i can tell you theses clubs have no identity, no scarfs, no flags, nothing, where the Fans of Liverpool is a different mentality, like a different country.

Liverpool, Celtic and Ireland have huge Tribal followings of people who are quite happy to travel overseas to just sit outside the stadium, that they were there when their family won against all the odds.

Liverpool would rather win the hard way keeping their identity than being owned by dictatorship owners, so Fernando should weigh everything up sensibly, try out the partnership with Suarez and if happens and we do get 4th then make the decision.
Where if it doesn't work out then everybody will wish you well with Chelsea while we use the transfer fee to buy new targeted players with a bit of notice.

Michael Irish YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 07:58:22
WILL EVERYONE STOP SLAGGING TORRES! !
No one knows what he really wants yet, nothing is concrete, even whether he has asked for a transfer. If he has there must be a reason behind his decision. And so late in the window means it can be resolved. You all are not making things easier.
If he commits his future tommorrow, you will ne the same fans who will celebrate! You all know him and Suarez will be the most lethal strikeforce ever! !
YOU BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES! !

4everRed

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29 Jan 2011 07:55:04
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Any one else thinks this smacks a little of the looney situation at manure? I think if he wants out let him go. Then move heaven and earth to get aguero or llorente both younger and probably hungrier
KopIdol

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29 Jan 2011 07:52:24
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Rooney hans in transfer request then gets new contract. .Tevez hands in transfer request then gets new contract. . .Torres hands in transfer request must mean hes leaving. . . Sell to highest bidder get 50mill and move on. . .

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29 Jan 2011 07:51:28
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Let Torres go now that he has shown his true colours. We want players that are 100% committed to Liverpool Football Club. He has been sulking for the last 12 months and it's not what we need. Lets bring in players that will give 100% EVERY WEEK not every other week. Lets start of a bidding war and get the best deal for Liverpool. With King Kenny at the helm the only way is up for my beloved LFC. .

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29 Jan 2011 07:50:59
I know people are gutted about torres that might be leaving but i do not want players who don't want to be there and i believe suarez is capable of doing a good job himself , i say sell him , buy 1 new players b4 deadline if possible , or do a player move + money

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29 Jan 2011 07:49:57
Can everyone take a chill pill. No one is bigger than LFC. If Torres wants to go, let him go, but make sure we get a good price plus a striker from chelsea. If its Anelka so be it. Should not have let him go in the first place.

redSHP

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29 Jan 2011 07:46:42
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I refuse to over react, after the last few years of heartache culminating in the threat of administration. 2 court cases, takeover, change of 2 managers, and a new dawn with the return of the king. This situation really pales into insignificance to all of that for me, at the end of the last season, there was a great clamour to get rid of the under performing sulking stars and start from a fresh, for me this still applies.

Unlike Karl, i am not as opposed to Suarez signing as he is, yeah he cheats and shows passion in the wrong way, but I watch Torres dive 5 times a game every week and nobody says a thing. His signing shows an intent from the new owners that I am hoping is not a false dawn, I could actually stomach Torres departure even more with the signing of Honda who I believe we will buy ed and a really top class wide man ala Turan. We would then have the type of squad to at least keep us in the top half of the table until the summer.

There is always the next big thing on the horizon, and while Torres may not have had his day so to speak, his powers are definitely waning, and if we take 50 mil for him and invest that wisely in young brilliant talent, I will be a happy chappy.

Remember we have lost greater players than torres ever will be and we are still here.

Fatboy76

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29 Jan 2011 07:44:32
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Been up since 4am, can't sleep, can't stop thinking about it, can't believe it - just in absolute shock! cannot believe it at all. .

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29 Jan 2011 07:43:17
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Heard speculation about torres i think we should let him go as fast as we can. actually ai'm big fans of him but i more love to the club then there isn't player bigger than club let him go grab the money for min 60m then look for other player soon use N'gogg pacheco jovanovic as temporarily replace for him. there is no place for betrayer in anfield space. . . .
i will burn my jersey with his number n his name n shreds his poster in my room

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29 Jan 2011 07:43:03
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Absolutly gutted about the news but lets look on the positive side, players come and go , there'll allways be another number 9, and if we get £50 million there is other players out there that can replace him, on his day he's one of the best but on the down side he's not been quite right for the last 2 years weather it be injurys or form, think he has lost a yard of pace, so if we could get £50 million, would be good buisness, buy lukaka , agura , lloenta, probably be able to buy 2 world class players on the forign market. I think we should wait til the summer tho.

Saying all this if we could get him to stay I would be over the moon

Billy red

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29 Jan 2011 07:41:19
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To all my fellow kopites.
TORRES WILL NOT BE LEAVING! !
Have faith, something has happened which will be resolved by King Kenny. King Kenny will not want the team to get any weaker especially when he is only there for the short period at the moment. He will have discussions with Torres today and it will be sorted. Damien Commolli in the mean time will proceed with our other targets. Don't forget Stevie G wanted to leave aswell but changed his mind last minute, the same will happen here.

4everRed.

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29 Jan 2011 07:40:05
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I don't believe that Torres wants to leave for more money. His sponsorships alone have made him more money than his wages at Liverpool. Also he came to Liverpool for less money than he was getting at Atlelitco. So money is not the issue.
However if it is, as the editors hint, that player pressure is the issue then it is understandable that he would want out. Surely if this is the case would KK not be able to sort this out?
I can remember in one match that Carra was shouting at him and he(Torres) put his finger to his lips.
I don't believe that Torres wants to go Chelsea but would seek to move abroad.

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29 Jan 2011 07:39:40
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Ed I think the torres deal has been done in principle for some time and his team were just looking for the most appropriate time to leave. Just before the Liverpool v cheslea game last season the sky cameras picked up (third eye) anccilotti and Torres having a cost chat like old mates and almost nodding and smiling as if they a plan was in place I remember thinking at the time he is off to chelsea. I think he is a great player good luck to him he has served the club well but we should max the fee and spend on quality only and rebuild the squad. Gutted. Si the red

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29 Jan 2011 07:39:00
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Hey ed, in regards to Chelseas' Aguero bid being rejected, was it a case of the club (Atletico) accepting the bid and the player refusing the move, or did Atletico reject the bid as they wanted more for him? Do you think if we were to put in a bid for him that activates his boy-out clause, they would sell him this late on in the window?

DownUnderRed {ed's note - from what I was told there was a lot of messing about with that deal, but they met his buyout clause. Despite the denials. Which says to me they met his clause and he rejected them. I am the wrong editor to ask about this deal to be honest, the one who has all the details did explain it to me, but I am not sure how much of it I can reveal (or how much I am remembering correctly!), but he will be on in a few hours, I will leave him a note on the widget to ask him to post about it for you.}

apparently the buy out clause only applys for other spanish clubs bidding for him. they would probs hold out for more from chelsea or us.
mikey

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29 Jan 2011 07:36:25
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This is not going to be a popular opinion but here goes. Torres is not a liverpool fan he is an Atletico, but firstly he is an ambitious footballer who wants to play at the top. He left Atletico to win things with us and we havn't met his expectations. Being a footballer is a short career and rebuilding our club will take time and Nando just isn't prepared to wait that long. If Torres goes i say to him thank you and just hope that we reinvest the money in quality. For too long we have relied on Gerrard and Torres now we need to build a team not rely on a couple of
individuals. My biggest concern is that it is late in the day to find replacements. Ed do you think we will have time to bring people in if he goes?

YNWA
Quincey

{Editor' Note: Yes.}

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29 Jan 2011 07:33:45
Liverpool Rumours
To all Liverpool fans, Torres is not going anywhere this transfer window. How and why?

Simply because he committed 3 weeks ago. He improved his form to show the world what he means. He handed in a transfer request 3 days ago in order to make it evident that he will leave in the summer and interested clubs please come with suitable offfers.

I am hoping we can have some information from the King himself today during the revelation of Suarez on the Torres rumors so that we can have a decent weekend.

I think from my heart here and not the head

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29 Jan 2011 07:25:51
Fernando torres: 'i would be proud for my daughter to grow up speaking english with a scouse accent'. . . .
well fernando. she can grow up to be a chav now
. go become a billionaires plaything for a few years. .go enjoy the 'atmosphere' at stamford bridge. with the prawn sandwich eating, free plastic flag waving 'fans'. we are liverpool fc. we were here long before you, and will be here forever after. .
red ross

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29 Jan 2011 07:25:27
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Right let's take a look at the facts . .
We buy Suarez for 23million
Do you not feel that the money was going to come from selling ?
So to me it is no surprise that we are now on the verge of selling our most prized assett.
This is very bad news and will cause problems for eg Suarez being sold a lie as one of his reasons for joining was to link up with Torres.

I feel this is the next chapter of our disasterous past 4 years.

If Torres is sold now, which he will be then we are weaker than our last game as Suarez will need time to settle.

Yet another step backwards.

LFC1

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29 Jan 2011 07:24:01
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With the Torres money we could go for Llorente or Carroll!

The club don't need to sell Torres and if there's trouble between Torres and over players then I'm sure KK will/ has been on it.

Macca (I Think) said that Torres doesn't take part in team bonding so obviously something's going on. Hey, we sold Keegan an Rush.

Thanks Nando, YNWA

Goalsharker

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29 Jan 2011 07:21:23
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I hope rather than blasting Torres's request, we should hope that King Kenny can turn his head back to reality. He is probably the player, I like the most and I hope, he stays here, for long. And about the people who are trying to blast him about requesting a transfer, should know that he hasn't done anything wrong. Its hios right to do so and by rejecting that, we've shown our right on him. I m definitely gutted like all of you, frnz, but down we all know that we'd love to see him as a Red forever. . Hope he stays. . YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 07:15:24
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To all LFC fans

Calm down, stop slagging off Carra and gerrard.They love the club and if someone is not pulling their weight they will be told so.
Lets look at the facts
Torres hands transfer request in on thursday
LFC buy Suarez on friday with more possibly to come.
If they are offering whatever amount plus Anelka no thank you.Remember he is called le sulk.
This stinks of the Rooney situation, says he wants to leave Man u they give him more money suddenly he stays.
If they offer Torres more money he will stay but we will know nothing about it because it will be done behind closed doors.A statement put out Torres is staying with LFC.
If he goes let him go now so we can get a replacement in asap-Aguero?
Today will be an interesting day
Watch this space i reckon he stays

T.E.A.M
Please post this ED

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29 Jan 2011 07:12:47
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Is'nt it funny that torres wants a transfer when he knows that a player who he feels may be better than him and who is on better form than him is signing.

i think he is cutting his nose of to spite his face as it wasn't long ago he pledged his future at Liverpool.

Torres now has to improve and grow up and play for the team.

First season 33 goals, awesome. Let's see that again.

Suarez and Torres could be the future if Torres starts being a team player.

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29 Jan 2011 07:07:07
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do u think if/ when torres goes we will go for aguero or if we even did, he would come?I know he is supposedly a boyhood red but he could possibly stay loyal(there's that word again) to athletico being captain and all

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29 Jan 2011 07:05:37
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I've just looked at the Chavski squad!
Would not mind having 40 mil plus 1 or 2 players
Maybe anelka
Kalou sucks! I've heard some names thrown around
Mikel bowingwa sturridge. .

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29 Jan 2011 07:01:34
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Hey Ed big fan love your work,

I'm concerned as i'm sure alot of other people at the moment are that IF torres did move (wich im still a bit iffy about) would we be able to secure big players fast or would we be stuck with 50 million pounds and even worse of than we were at the start of january? If we did have back ups i'm also afraid they will be the likes of lukaku and adam as opposed to aguero and llorente we can't fall into the trap of buying 'meh' players we are after all LFC!

Cheers jimme

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29 Jan 2011 06:57:25
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I think that Torres could be off to following clubs :Barcelona fc willing to give us players plus cash for him, while Real willing to through Benzema plus cash for him. Whereas in England Man City will try to exchange players plus cash, or could be stright cash offer of £80m. I think that Torres wants to leave because he if frustrated of lack of signing and hence after we sign Suraz, he maybe staying.The owners may sign others players to confidence him to stay, you may see Honda, Hazard and others top rated players. We'll never walk alone.

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29 Jan 2011 06:51:30
Honour?Loyalty?Respect?In football?My foot.
I say give him to City and get £40m plus Adam Johnson.Augment that with £5m and go buy Hulk (£20m) and David Luiz (£25m)- stick it to Chelski.
Or more sensibly, buy Sanchez with that £25m.

Honestly, I feel cheated.At a time when the club needs him most; at a time when things are starting to look up and he goes and does this!Two weeks after pledging his future to the club, to the fans?
It's sickening.Moreover, this was supposed to be Luis' night, but it's been spoiled.Feel sorry for you, lad.

I wouldn't want to start calling Fernando names, no.There's lots he did this club.But for me, it really has been completely erased by this one utterly treacherous, back-stabbing and disrespectful act betrayal.I cannot forgive him, sorry.
He's just degenerated himself to the very lows of Owen.Never again will I look him with the same eyes, same respect and same adoration.

So if Chelski are prepared to stump out the over £50m we'd want, I say let him go.Straight cash, no player swaps.Failing that we should try and reach an agreement with City for £40m plus A Johnson.With that money, Hulk and a top class winger (preferably Sanchez) will be possible.

As for Fernando Torres, from this point you shall forever walk alone, son.May you find what you looking for.

Although he wouldn't have been my first choice, a welcome to Luis Suarez.Best of luck with your Anfield career, kid.

We'll Forever Walk On

Silver Song
Ps: is it still possible to get Hulk should Torres be sold? Would City be keen on a £40m plus A Johnson deal for Torres?

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29 Jan 2011 06:51:30
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Just put the big greek up front

least his shows what it means to wear the shirt !

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29 Jan 2011 06:44:43
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I don't think he will leave.

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29 Jan 2011 06:43:08
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I don't want Torres to leave. But, if he does leave, I will be worried about who that money will be spent on. A striker? A winger? A left back? A center back? A midfielder? Youngsters? Lately, our money has been mishandled in transfers. I just want Liverpool to spend on players that will be successful. ed, If you decided what to do with the money, who would you get?

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29 Jan 2011 06:41:47
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No one man is bigger than our football club. If Torres wants to leave, I say we let him. We could do with a good 50-60 million. Imagine if he did go for that amount, the possibilities with the budget.

Llorente, Aguero, Mata. 1 class striker and 1 class winger could be bought with around 10 million to spare. So I honestly don't see how Torres leaving would leave a massive dent in the club. If he goes to Chelsea, for example, sure he'll break a few hearts, but once again no one man is bigger than LFC.

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29 Jan 2011 06:36:27
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Torres will be convince to stay, he is just annoyed at the lack of quality players coming in this transfer window. . . just like rooney did for man ure

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29 Jan 2011 06:33:38
Hi Guys first time posting

Good news to see we signed another striker, but not so much good news that torres want to leave. I think the club best move would be to say to torres he can leave, but only in the summer. We will have time to find replacements and get the right transfer fee for torres, which i think should be around 60-80mil. No player should be bigger than the club and if he want to leave then he should leave, this might be a good chance for the team to rebuild and build a complete team.

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29 Jan 2011 06:32:57
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Did anyone see N.Eccleston's twitter comment? He asked what LFC fans thought about Benfica accepting offer of 22.5m for Suarez? Someone then rightly points out wrong team. HOWEVER, has NE let somet slip and infact we've nipped in and had a bid accepted for Luiz of Benfica the defender who Chelsea have been tracking? It could be a genuine mistake, but then again suppose he could have got mixed up with Luiz & Luis Suarez? Young, versatile, class defender are NESV gonna pull another rabbit out of the hat?

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29 Jan 2011 06:26:11
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Rumour has it, with chelsea's abundance of strikers , the deal was created by torres's reps so he could make Barcelona aware of his availability, watch them make their move, as Liverpool will not sell to another premiership club

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29 Jan 2011 06:24:05
His armband said he was a red torres torres
but now hes chosen blue instead torres torres
it could be worse he could be a manc
and think of the money into our bank
fernando torres ex liverpool number nine

He could have been a legend here torres torres
but now he's getting nowhere near torres torres
wish him luck he's on his way
Hope he regrets the move someday
fernando torres ex liverpool number nine

they tapped him up all season long torres torres
he helped them out by hanging on torres torres
remember the way we sang your name
you'll never hear it sang again
you should hang your head in shame
fernando torres ex liverpool number nine

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29 Jan 2011 06:20:10
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Fine if Torres wishes to leave the new LFC legacy then that's okay with me as long as Chelsea pay 50 million and gives us Anelka and Sturriage I don't mind.

Go out and buy Charlie Adams and Ashley Young with the cash and at the same time put a bid in for Alonso to come back to liverpool.

Cash in now because in three months he will be injured again any way

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29 Jan 2011 06:18:41
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Come to think of it, the only time i would've contemplated selling Torres would've been now, when we are managed by the king. Of all the people the king knows what would be right for us I'm sure. I completely trust him to bring class players as he did when he sold Rush. This is deja vu. Also if we have to sell torres to anybody in prem. sell him to manchester city. Tell them they can have Torres for 35m-40m plus Adam Johnson. It would be the best deal IMO.


LONG LIVE THE KING

VM YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 06:17:56
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Miccmak {ed's note - the problem I have is that, and I am sure Macca will find the same but hopefully not, the people I know are never going to say ill of Gerrard or Carragher. As those are the most likely culprits in this instance there is no way I will find out the truth. Hopefully Macca will be able to get a less one-sided view.}
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If it is Gerrard and carragher i don't blame him. Because these players are probably untouchable. you have a hard time with them and you can't sort that out, you will not have a hope that it gets easier. because there are here forever, they are locals and captains. even Benitez was afraid of the fans not to play them when necessary. Mournihio could have easily used another defender in carragher's place last season.
earlier in the season gerrard and torres were reported to have a bust up. when gerrard scored against Sunderland and torres didn't go towards him to celebrate. but my thought is with Carra. carragher is the kind of player who would easily confront players when they don't show effort. He yells at players even on the pitch. like in the case of Arbeloa.
ED if you were the one handling the situation at this moment, what will you decide? what decision will benefit the club?
miccmak {ed's note - personally I think Gerrard has too much power within the club, I think that needs to be curtailed and him brought back down to earth.}

i have long since thought gerrard was a huge hinderance to lucas s development at the club, he used to glaare at him everytime he crossed the halfway line

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29 Jan 2011 06:15:20
If the Torres revelation happened two weeks ago and he left I wouldn't be too worried. However, with only 3 days left until the window closes, I am a bit concerned that we may not be able to sign a suitable replacement in time. I know we have agreed a deal with Suarez, but I am not convinced he can lead the line by himself like Torres can. Suarez is a second striker perfectly capable of playing with Torres. If we do not keep Torres, I fear that our whole pursuit for Suarez will have been a waste

very good point, suarez isn't aa lead the line striker , he very much plays in an arround the main striker getting between defenders finds space and scores goals. however should torres leave i would demand fifty million plus anelka, anelka could lead the line at least until summer and someone like lukaka can be brought in

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29 Jan 2011 06:10:54
The worst thing now is i think a front two of suarez and babel could have been awesome

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29 Jan 2011 06:10:36
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Listen my fellow reds

remember when ian rush left?
robbie fowler?
michael owen?

there comes a time when you just have to move on . .and in todays footballing climate . its all about the cash . . . so don't worry if torres leaves . we will find someone to fill his boots . (we are LFC). . remember its a team game it not about individuals and if you ask me torres is a shadow of the player he used to be , he will also realise what a mistake he will make by joining chelsea because he will be leaving a real football club . . i say get as much as we can (60M) and buy turan, banega, young, suarez and hulk( not the green one)

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29 Jan 2011 05:53:26
This torres thing could actually be good for us.
We don't need a player who is injury prone, unhappy and past his prime.
If we can get the money that is talked about then i would take it.
Suarez's deal has proved that we are still able to attract good talent.
If we can get anelka in the deal, it mite be enough for the short term.
Come summer we can invest big and get 2-3 quality players in place of one.

I know i will be called names.
But i am truly gutted be the news. thought fernando was LFC kind of player.

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29 Jan 2011 05:47:16
What will be interesting is to see what happens if torres does leave in this window, if he does leave and the money isn't used bringing in players who we have already scouted the likes of lukaka honda turan hazard, then i will be disgusted

if the only transfers are torres out 50 million, suarez in 23 million and charlie adam i would be disgusted and once again back to questioning the motives of nesv

dunno what to make of things yet, one thing is for sure, this window has become the most interesting climax to a window for some years, we have a few interesting days ahead that's for sure

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29 Jan 2011 05:46:07
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Ed, I saw a post talking about how Gerrard and Carragher have too much power in the club. I also saw another post that the said two players are pushing Torres out the door. To be honest, I do not understand why people make the statements I just mentioned.
CaliforniaRed

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29 Jan 2011 05:44:09
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Torres has sealed his transfer by claiming that he was verbally intimidated. Had it been cause of lack of ambition or money, the club could have tried to hold on to him. But based on what he has said, I don't see how the club will be able to retain him. In Torres' defence, he is too good of a player to be out of CL and considering he is 26 (and his injuries), he may only have 2 to 3 years to win the trophies, which are badly missing from his cabinet. We, the fans, should not turn against him because he came to us when he could have gotten more money elsewhere and he has absolutely been a gem for us. I am just sad that he will not be able to get a similar status in our history as King Kenny, Rush or Fowler, which he very much deserves.

Now that we have to sell, we should tell Chelski to pay up 45million and give Zhyrkov, that would mean a payout of almost 60million. Zhyrkov is a great player, has pace and can play both at LB and LM. We should definitly not get Sturrige or Anelka. Maybe Ivanovic or Essien can be considered instead of Zhyrkov but as second priority. We should also consider offering him to Mancity and ask for 45million plus johnson.

I have a feeling that he will move to Chelski and we would just pip them to the final CL spot by the end of the season. But I really hope that Torres, wins the league (wherever it is) and the CL before end of his career, he truly derserves it.

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29 Jan 2011 05:40:35
What ever happen. chelsea had win this mind games

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29 Jan 2011 05:37:22
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I was told Torres was very keen to join Chelsea in the summer, the lad who told me this claimed to have got it from Tony Barrett the LFC journo. I don't know whether it was from TB or not but at the time I told him he was an idiot for making things up but now it seems he was right. I think there has been no intimidation he has just simply wanted to go for a while and seeing us haggling for Blackpool players has been the last straw. IF THE OWNERS WANT US TO BE THE BEST AGAIN THEN WE NEED TO RAISE THE STANDARD OF OUR TRANSFER TARGETS! !

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29 Jan 2011 05:33:41
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I hope Man City enter a bidding war now. Sell him !

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29 Jan 2011 05:33:31
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Ive been reading this site none stop since just before woy got the sack, ive been reading players are coming every day and was finally the happiest i had been in ages when i heard about our new signing, then a few hours later i read the site again and im the sadest lol. Ed-if torres was to go in the next couple of days, do you think we have anyone lined up that we could sign in the next couple of days to replace him? If so, who?
cheers
mellor

{Editor' Note: I am sure that one or two players will be coming in - who is not something that I can answer right now.}

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29 Jan 2011 05:33:26
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Now that a suarez bid has been accepted do u tink we will sign any wingers in the last couple of days.ed? samuel94 {ed's note - there are definitely more players coming, I wouldn't expect more than one winger as Suarez is most likely to take the place of Maxi or Kuyt.}


So what u sayin is yet again a striker will b played out of position

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29 Jan 2011 05:27:02
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29 Jan 2011 04:13:39
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Miccmak {ed's note - the problem I have is that, and I am sure Macca will find the same but hopefully not, the people I know are never going to say ill of Gerrard or Carragher. As those are the most likely culprits in this instance there is no way I will find out the truth. Hopefully Macca will be able to get a less one-sided view.}
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If it is Gerrard and carragher i don't blame him. Because these players are probably untouchable. you have a hard time with them and you can't sort that out, you will not have a hope that it gets easier. because there are here forever, they are locals and captains. even Benitez was afraid of the fans not to play them when necessary. Mournihio could have easily used another defender in carragher's place last season.
earlier in the season gerrard and torres were reported to have a bust up. when gerrard scored against Sunderland and torres didn't go towards him to celebrate. but my thought is with Carra. carragher is the kind of player who would easily confront players when they don't show effort. He yells at players even on the pitch. like in the case of Arbeloa.
ED if you were the one handling the situation at this moment, what will you decide? what decision will benefit the club?
miccmak } why are you saying this about stevie and carra , has something been said?

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29 Jan 2011 05:23:49
When torres came to liverpool the only other club he had interest in joining was ac milan, funny that these two clubs had shared two of the previous three finals. torres wants to win the champions league, our club has failed him in this respect, this is why he wants chelsea. this move may have been made public today but it was considered long before now. so wave goodbye to fernando, the club cannot currently match his ambitions, thank him for his goals, and do not curse him on the way out. it was not the lads fault hicks n gilette screwed it up for us and for him. he came here with the intentions and dreams of winning the champions league with us and he will leave here with those same aspirations with another club more likely to fulfill his ambitions. with chelsea he will have a bsh at the champions league again this year and abramovich will have the man to finally win it for him.

so thanks fernando, goodbye and goodluck! !

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29 Jan 2011 05:21:34
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Most of the fans are having a go at Torres for him on the way to Chelsea.The actual reason for his departure is within the club.Two persons:- Gerrard and Carragher.These two consider themselves to be Lfc.they are actually forcing Torres to leave the club.why are the fans not voicing it out to Gerrard and Carragher then? they have too much power? who gave them so much power within the club? I'd rather keep Torres and kick those two out. Lfc is a team and does not belong to Gerrard and Carragher. for sure we'll never win titles till these two are here and they are good for retirement now.they've got to be stripped of such power.I hope King Kenny will bring these two back to where they belong and put some order in the house.They are just players serving Lfc and they are paid for that.

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29 Jan 2011 05:13:23
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Just to put a different slant on it all: maybe now is the best time to sell Torres anyway. He won't get any better or faster than he is now, he's had a carp season after a carp World Cup and he's been injury-prone recently. If we get 40m-50m for him, it's great business as it is highly unlikely that we will get that amount in future years. I believe he was at his peak 2007-09 so to steal the chavs riches for someone who won't improve makes sense to me. Send him on his way.

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29 Jan 2011 05:11:14
NESV said when they arrived, that they don't want anyone, that doesn't want to be at LFC! They will sell Torres this weekend. They have history of dealing with this sort of stuff. Ramirez in Boston (at the time arguably the best hitter in baseball) got rid & were better for it. I have full faith in NESV. The thing that makes me laugh is Chelsea don't have the team to with the CL this year even with Torres, and they sure as hell ain't winning the PL. And they may not even make top 4 this year. I say we take 50-60M & laugh all the way to the bank. Chelsea are truly in trouble with the fair play rules come in effect.
We are LFC not Torresfc
YNWA

Canuckred

{Editor' Note: The fair play rules are not an issue yet though.}

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29 Jan 2011 05:09:05
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We're now looking like Ajax's and Blackpool's fans several days back
The question is why LFC official site announced Nando's transfer request publicly? I think there's must be something behind it
Do you have any clue Ed?

-Reds518-

{Editor' Note: I really don't know why.}

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29 Jan 2011 05:09:01
What the hell has happened to his head? i mean a short while ago it was all i am professional, want to honour my contract., blah blah blah and now a transfer request. I can't believe this, just can't believe this. So in a space of weeks he has grown so disillusioned here that he is prepared to share the dressing room with the likes of terry and ashley cole. Even some of my manure loving mates have been stunned by this. What was suppossed to be a day to rejoice that we've finally got an excellent striker has been turned into a big shock.

LONG LIVE THE KING

VM YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 05:04:34
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LFC have made enquiries into the availability of both Fernando Llorente and Yoann Gourcuff. LFC are trying to get a striker on loan to Liverpool, big shock is that it could be Robbie Keane. Torres to leave Liverpool, City are to table a bid for a summer transfer (Tevez will be leaving) so Torres to remain until the season end. However Chelsea will re bid, the strange thing about the Chelsea bid is that it is an offer Roman has made without Carlo knowledge. Both bids will be undisclosed to protect Liverpool when they go to market.

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29 Jan 2011 04:57:29
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Just an extract from The Mirror (Not a good source I know. )
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MirrorSport revealed exclusively that Chelsea's owner Roman Abramovich wants to make a definitive statement by bringing Torres to the club and is prepared to go eventually to £60m to get his man.

An exploratory offer of £40m was rejected, but Chelsea have immediately decided to increase that bid by another five million, with young striker Daniel Sturridge thrown in.

That could be enough to persuade owners Fenway Sports Group to sell, but £50m plus £10m-rated Sturridge - a player that Liverpool wanted to take on loan this season - will certainly seal the deal.

Sources at Stamford Bridge say they have the desire to make it happen and Liverpool will feel they have no option to accept when the price reaches that tipping point, because of the player's desire to go.
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29 Jan 2011 04:49:19
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I think Torres has been carp for a while now - awful in the World Cup, very average under Hodgson, lacking pace and motivation with his best years behind him. 40m we should take it and run. There's better strikers out there.

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29 Jan 2011 04:49:00
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I think liverpool should sell torres, gerard , carra, poulsen , jovanovic and johnson end of the season. .and start to buy no players who really want to play foe liverpool. . In this way we can make liverpool a better team rather those player who are in liverpool now who think they are great and without them liverpool cannot survive. . Turan , aguero, sahin, honda and lot more players who want to play for liverpool even thou we are at 7 position. . for english player we should look at a.young, lennon, walnock, m. Richard and others

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29 Jan 2011 04:45:34
£35 Million, £40 Million, £42.5 Million plus Sturridge, it really doesn't matter how much money is offered, if the club do sell the money will come too late to do anything with this window, it will simply be impossible to find the right replacement for Torres in time.

Okay we may have Suarez, but he is certainly an unknown quantity and will certainly take time to settle in, and what if he doesn't work out? then given our other options up front Kenny will certainly have his work cut out simply keeping us from a relegation battle.

As an aside, and people might think I'm crazy, but all season I have been watching Torres' and Gerrard's interactions, or lack of. In seasons past they would be the first to congratulate each other, they would have smiles on their faces and generally look totally harmonious, however this season that "love" just simply doesn't, or isn't there.

Over the past weeks Torres had seemingly returned to somewhere near his old self, he was actually smiling (especially at Wolves) and looked happy (Gerrard suspended). Now obviously the team performed fairly well against Wolves so you could put it down to that, however against Fulham on Wednesday, he seemed to retreat back to his discontented persona, even after he scored (disallowed goal) he just didn't seem to be at the races, and on many occassions I noticed he simply didn't look happy that Gerrard was back?

Oh well, given that he wants away, my thoughts won't mean that much on Tuesday when Torres lines up for Chelsea against Sunderland

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29 Jan 2011 04:41:41
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Torres isn't going anywhere in January, Liverpool arent going to seel for anything less than 60 mil, so that's out the windo, and i can garuntee if we win anything while he is still at the club that he will stay, football players are so shallow its unbelievable, dont get me wrong i love torres to bits but dats just how it works. . Im not worried too much!

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29 Jan 2011 04:39:05
Torres has to be sold now if you ask me. look at rooney now after his situation, he has been pretty bad by his standards.

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29 Jan 2011 04:39:03
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"In fact, besides the world cup with Spain, Torres has actually won nothing."

Um, Torres scored the winning goal against Germany in the EU Finals in 2008. Maybe you didn't watch since England didn't qualify, but the rest of the world did.

Maybe he had promises to him broken, but NESV has been in charge for 100 days, and King Kenny for less than 30. Boo hoo, poor Nando, any way you slice it, handing in a written transfer request with three days left in the January market is a bad move.

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29 Jan 2011 04:38:31
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Toress and Suarez wat a combination. Hours later Torres hand in a transfer request. m absolutely gutted. Chelsea is not gonna stop chasing after Torres and they have bidded for him for the last 2 years at every transfer window opportunity and Chelsea will at it again in the summer if they fail this January.

Liverpool now has to seek another striker AGAIN and i would reckon Commoli and Daglish are working overtime now to look for Torres replacement. We have to admit that Torres heart is not entirely with Liverpool these season. Players comes and goes and that just the way it is.

Now Liverpool have to get their head up again and find a suitable replacement to partner Suarez. Aguero or Benzema will put back all the smile on Liverpool fans again.

Thank You
Borneo Kop

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29 Jan 2011 04:37:03
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Ed, this whole Torres affair doesn't really make sense. Maybe you can shed some light.

Look Ive always known Torres was never going to sign a contract extension with us. We've failed to give him the support he's continuously asked for and have not won anything. But I expected for him to be let go in summer. We would have never let him see out his whole contract because we would have wanted to make money from the sale, because lets face it, you don't let Fernando Torres walk for free.

Why would Torres want to leave now? Im quite certain Chelsea won't win the title this year. Why upset the fans when he won't win anything in the next six months. He might as well try and win the Europa League with us and then go to Chelsea in summer if that's where he wants to go. What are your thoughts Ed?

{Editor's Note: I think the time has come for him to think about moving on. He is clearly unhappy - just the timing that is bad.}

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29 Jan 2011 04:14:38
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10 weeks ago many people on here were saying if Torres wants out we should sell him. . (Things like Injury prone, Past his best, Lazy) the money being touted too was crazy. . (£25-35 mil was the "price") Now the guy has handed in a transfer request, everyone is outraged?? Ok the guy is a great striker! But no player is unreplaceable. . If we are getting £40-50 mil for him get on the phone and get Llorente or Aguero in. . With the money left over, put in a cheeky bid for Turan too, then wish Torres well. Its not the end of the world. Players come and go yet Liverpool FC remains. . However i don't expect any of the to happen until the summer

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29 Jan 2011 04:13:40
I truly hope Kenny has the same persuasive powers as a Captain Demento, and can make Torres see the light as Rooney was.

Obviously something has happened in the past couple of days to make Fernando feel like he is better off plying his trade at Chelsea? The point that makes no sense is that it is being reported that he "wants to leave in this transfer window", well I can't believe that he has been harbouring these thoughts for the past month, why not put in the transfer request on day one of the window if his intention was to leave? no, something has definitely happened behind the scenes which has triggered this late change of heart.

Was the sale of Babel and the attempt to sell Jovanavic the final straw? selling players yet again as opposed to buying in quality as promised?

Is Ian Holloway into voodoo, and is this karma or some weird poetic (unpoetic from where I sit) justice for us trying to "poach" Blackpool's best player? is Captain Demento actually Abrahomvic's best pal and has he coercise him into making the bid in order to derail Kenny's return? . .all I know is that I'm not happy.

Suarez's impending arrival is only the tip of the iceberg in regards to the quality we need, everybody at the club knows this, and the owners should have been conducting business on day one of this transfer window, in Nando's eye's "one swallow does not a summer make" . . "too little too late".

I hope this morning Torres wakes up and thinks what a fool I've been this past 24 hours, retracts his transfer request and accompanies it with an apology, similar to Rooney, however if his mind is set for pastures new, then as gutted as I will be, I wish him good luck with his future, although, as it has been stated already the grass isn't always greener.

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29 Jan 2011 04:13:39
Just on a lighter note after a shocker of a day, suarez's wife is really REALLY HOT! And we're the only club in the league where the owner has his own WAG. so put that in your pipe and smoke it chelsea, you haven't even got cheryl cole anymore

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29 Jan 2011 04:12:15
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If the Torres revelation happened two weeks ago and he left I wouldn't be too worried. However, with only 3 days left until the window closes, I am a bit concerned that we may not be able to sign a suitable replacement in time. I know we have agreed a deal with Suarez, but I am not convinced he can lead the line by himself like Torres can. Suarez is a second striker perfectly capable of playing with Torres. If we do not keep Torres, I fear that our whole pursuit for Suarez will have been a waste.

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29 Jan 2011 04:09:29
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I am amazed everyone thinks that by selling Torres for around 50 million, we are gonna be able to afford Aguero PLUS others. Aguero will cost a lot (35m plus). The players folks are name checking will cost us upwards of 80m. We will be able to replace and build no doubt, but is it the best idea to blow all the money we make from Nando on one striker who is not really proven to be as good? We are not gonna get anyone in who is as good as Torres, so why not spend the money wisely, on a young quality player who can grow into the team. 20m should be enough, the belgian boy, 40m for aguero is too much. Anelka please too Mr Abramovic.

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29 Jan 2011 04:08:06
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If Torres were to leave, I would prefer if he left to a spanish club, in the summer.
IF he left for Barcelona, I would like to see atleast 35m + Ibrahomovic. I'd like to see him at Anfield as he is tall and powerful, a perfect partner for Suarez!

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29 Jan 2011 04:02:37
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His transfer reguest proved he is a knob Torres
I want to leave the club it said Torres Torres
we bought the lad from sunny Spain we made him good he treated us like fools
Fernando Torres
Chelskis new number 9

^^ we loved him but what has he done to our faith.

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29 Jan 2011 03:55:26
We all look at Torres through tinted shades, this season and all of last season he has been a shadow of his former self. He consistently lose the ball never seems to be interested so i say let him jump ship and bring in aguero/ Lukaku.
As long as we bring in players that want to play for the club then i will be happy.

YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 03:54:25
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If torres goes, could we see pato arriving. AC have ibra, cassano, robhino and more in attack, and he's a (moderately) big centre forward who can also be the target man we so desire. To be honest, i can love with torres leaving if we get money that will solve our entire squad. If torres money gets pato, turan and honda then i think that'd be okay. pato for say, 35, turan for 15 and honda for 10. that adds up to the sixty that we're reportedly going to be offered. ed or others? anyone else think that pato would be the way to go?

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29 Jan 2011 03:49:27
Just f***off torres. . i know believe in 'LUIS SUAREZ"

create a song for him>>>>

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29 Jan 2011 03:41:51
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As the torres saga begins so does another, more promising one i think the SUAREZ saga. The kid who managed to score 49 goals in 48 apearances last season said it was 'a dream move' it's great to see that he respects our beloved club and i hope that on feb 6 he scores the winner and we stick it to the traitor known as torres

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29 Jan 2011 03:38:52
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Rumours are strong that the next John Terry's target is Torres' wife. and he is going all out to get this spanish chick.

gd luck Fernandos**thead

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29 Jan 2011 03:34:02
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If torres did really hand in a transfer request, just sell him. MIGHTY LIVERPOOL don't need someone who don't want to be at the club! !. Use the money to buy andy carroll and lukaku!

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29 Jan 2011 03:25:41
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Same as usual, new owners, false promises. . . great clubs are built on steady foundations. we were. now we just seem to sell off prize assets. probably won't be long before Reina goes and all the excuses will come out, Carragher and Gerrard will retire to do their punditry and spokesperson gigs reflecting on what a good club we were. . . .
in the last 6years we have sold players like, Alonso, Mascherano, Riise, Sissoko, Cisse, Baros, Arbeloa, and now Babel and maybe Torres. . . .
im not saying they are all worldbeaters, but they are all still playing at a high level, and we have replaced them with DROSS. where has the money gone in all these transfers?? ?? ?? ??
what have we become?? ? ?
im a fan of 30years, the above players were sold too early, by either managers laying down their mark, or fickle owners balancing books to make quick bucks. . . . . . . very very disgruntled FAN. . .
Suarez. . . good signing, the gloss has been well and truely taken off by the so called Torres statement. One step forward. . . . YNWA {ed's note - we have always sold players, the problem is with the quality of the replacements.}

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29 Jan 2011 03:25:32
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WE ARE LFC WITH OR WITH OUT TORRES WE HERE BEFORE HE CAME AND WE WILL STILL BE LFC WHEN HE HAS GONE WE HAVE HISTORY THAT NO MONEY IN THE WORLD CAN BUY WE WILL NEVER WALK ALONE WE ARE LFC LETS REMBER THAT

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29 Jan 2011 03:18:52
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He cannot move to Chelski! We have to hold him on his contract put him in the ressies until summer then sell him to a European club.
Its a sad sad day when a player wants to leave a club like Liverpool for them.
We are the greatest club in the world and have shown intent to move forward buy signing Suarez.
If he wants to go let him go. . in the summer. . to a European club

5times*****

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29 Jan 2011 03:17:25
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If torres wants to go let him personally I would let him rot in the reserves till summer and show him nobody is bigger than lfc with the amount of time he has spent injured at lfc he has easily missed around a season many have gone before (rush fowler owen)(all gone on to fail elsewhere) ) let s just remember him for what he is a class footballer but a greedy one that takes the easy rout when all our football club needs is players willing to fight for our badge now go on fernando and f_*k off or pull up no matter what we are lfc and we will never walk alone be it with you or without you let pacheco show what he s got

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29 Jan 2011 03:07:35
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Gutted, completely gutted! But at the end of the day no one is bigger than the club if he wants to go let himgo! There were great strikers before and there will be great strikers again. It jus goes to show Torres didn't truly lOve our club :(

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29 Jan 2011 03:03:26
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Hello, all
Been reading this site a few years & if fernando goes he's no better than a rat(and i use that with a heavey heart) because look at the facts he or the players are not worried about us liverpool fans paying our season tickets & going to work everyday to support our familys, put petrol in our cars talking our kids to school?, no they don't worry about things like that we do.
I am 36 yrs of age and have had a season ticket since i was 13yrs of age, but over the last couple of years with tom & george and giving over £1.000 pounds every year to go to games & then these players cry about medals when if when we was kids if we would have been told we would have graced the fields of anfield but we only would have lived very rich, or just very well off is a joke?.

but no problem i'll wake up tomorrow and stick another £100 gas?/ £100 Elec ?/ £62 Petrol that will not last a week And all the rest of the my bills sky to watch them again/ council/ food/ clothes AND STILL NEVER KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO PLAY FOR LFC AND JUST GET BY ON ENDS MEAT. . . like these stars. . . . . .

P.S thanks to the eds, macca, mayne who i have always liked your views, thanks fellas it keeps it real from the fools.

Slate me if you want but there my views, am just very fed up, good news & then bad.

Pete-H

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29 Jan 2011 03:00:09
Once I got over my initial shock when I heard the news, logic took over. This is actually not a bad thing for our club. Torres is 26, injury prone & has lost a bit of pace. The chavs are a team of aging mercenaries that do not have the youth coming through that LFC do. If they are willing to pay then sell him. My opinion of him changed the second he handed in a transfer request, proof that he actually belongs with the mercenaries.

Then my friend sent me a text that made me spit my ale out - Rafa at Chelsea & Jose at Liverpool next season? How surreal would that be?

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29 Jan 2011 02:56:11
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Ets face realitey here boyz n girlz torri i s gone so fk wat bout it he wasnt the main goal scorer he was becoming more r less a manur player poacher micky owen lazy c**t i could stand in a box get ball passed n score , we need players an that's wat king ken is doeing i saiad b4 that there will be atleast 5 comin in an at least 4 goeing ive been right not 2 the day but right this has all been done an dusted tooori wanted to go last year but the fans wouldn't let it happen an the funny board new if it did liverpoolm wouldn't be were they r ni .complete new system now new thinking an new team isaid b4 we will be 4th place and mighty just watch this space im not macca whom i have respect 4 but 4 other edds i hink r just on a guessing game ive been right 3 times ive posted and hav not doubeted no1 so edds get it right r research lad n girls torri will go no love lost between team r fans he will walk alone post this kev belfast bel r don't but watch n listen {ed's note - could anyone help me out and translate this into English please?}


Why do 11 year old boys insist on talking like Ali G?

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29 Jan 2011 02:56:04
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ITS amazing how fans are so fickle. . . . . I remember when Gerrard had supposedily joined chelsea, fans outside burning his shirt, he didn't go. . and yet he is still CLASSED as a LIVERPOOL legend. . . .even tho he brought so much hurt and doubt to the fans at the time. . . . . . me included. Its the same now, all jumping and screaming slagging TORRES off, the same TORRES who has scored 81 goals in 142 games. . . that's some return rate. . . I for one am GUTTED, on his day there isn't a better striker in the game. So WHO (if he goes) replaces him?? ? ANSWER. . . . .NOBODY with the same strike rate. . . A SAD SAD DAY in LIVERPOOL's history. . . the football world will be laughing at how far we have fallen. . . . . . as usual a major asset is sold off. . . . . . . . . POST it where you like ed's. . . . . im in for a sleepless night. . . . YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 02:55:10
I've just been thinking about the suarez deal and it's similarities to the torres deal in 07. He's a young player who has been looked at by all of europes top clubs with no one willing to take a risk on him, just like torres was before we bought him. Made club captain at a young age and with a verocious scoring record, and most of all he wants to play for us! Very similar situation in my opinion! Let's hope he can have the same sort of impact as torres has had!
Onwards and upwards!
You'll Never Walk Alone

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29 Jan 2011 02:48:49
Hey ed, if its uo to you and torres does have a beef with gerrard and carragher, who would you rather see leave, i will admit nino did play better when sg and jc wasnt playing? {ed's note - personally I would say get rid of all 3 if that is the case. Torres for not being man enough to sort it out, the other two for causing the problem. That would be how I would deal with it, better to have a fresh start than leave behind any festering resentment with friends etc.}

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29 Jan 2011 02:48:26
Has he really handed in a transfer request? Please get back to me Ed! I'm drunk and in ponderland! {ed's note - sorry mate, he did.}

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29 Jan 2011 02:38:04
Never thought id say this but. . . Scumbag, thought he had his heart at us! Shows what money does to a man! Cl next year tortois watch out, no one is bigger than LFC you greedy sheep!

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29 Jan 2011 02:37:05
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If torres goes for 45-50 million it has to happen today. That gives us a couple of days to invest.
to be honest as much as i have been a torres fan he seems lazy at times, and he looks a lot slower since his injuries and he loses possesion all the time. He has world class talent, but if we could get say get anelka in trade and buy a. turan, Honda, and adam.
we are a million times better of.

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29 Jan 2011 02:32:40
Lets get rid lads/ ladies and start again. Would it be that big a loss?

He has had 3 or 4 good games this season.

We need players who would die to play for our club.

Lets all stick together till the summer where i am told the owners are willing to spend big.

Macca


Nice to see unlike Sky Sports top man, ours has no chance of being caught out for sexism :-)
Well played Macca indeed.

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29 Jan 2011 02:31:31
Has torres said he wants to go for defo please can you tell me because every post suggests it

thanks ed

ps with baited breath {ed's note - he handed in a written transfer request, the official site have confirmed that.}

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29 Jan 2011 02:30:28
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Torres wants to go let him go. Keegan, Owen, Fowler before him left. The club will carry on! No hysterics needed
Red Jack

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29 Jan 2011 02:29:45
Dont forget guys aguero is a pal of maxi not torres, ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 02:29:40
Flamin mad. . . . the whole thing makes a mockery of us. After what he said the other week. . . then to do it this way tells me a lot about what he truly thinks about LFC supporters. Will he show us some respect and tell us what changed his mind, i doubt it. Nando has obviously forgotten that we Reds are like no other. . . but hell hath no fury like a Red scorned. If he wants to go then get as much as we can and good riddance. Liverpool Football Club will be here long after Torres's career is over. . let him walk alone

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29 Jan 2011 02:26:23
Eds alittle something for you's.
Theres only one luis suarez, one luis suarez walking along, singing a song, walking in a suarez wonderland!

kdkop

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29 Jan 2011 02:25:31
Fergie is licking his lips like a cheshire cat. ffs getting totally dishearted with lfc and football as a whole the beautiful game is ruined time to take up a new interest.

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29 Jan 2011 02:23:05
Liverpool Rumours
Is it true we are losing Torres and get Luis Suarez. Torres wanted to leave in the summer, but toughed it out.

I think torres should get a million miles away from Liverpool. The scare on his knee should tell him that. I would be so pissed if someone risked by lively hood like that.

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29 Jan 2011 02:22:26
Falling out with which players ed?could it be sg? {ed's note - that would be my thinking, it wouldn't be the first time that players have struggled to settle at the club due to him. That is if it is a falling out.}

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29 Jan 2011 02:22:10
Liverpool Rumours
Clearly we must sell Torres.but it can't just be saurez in Torres out as we would be back to the same situation as before but this time we would have a new striker in saurez who may or may not settle quickly and ngog. Before Torres is sold we must have a replacement ready and waiting to come in as I don't see saurez as his replacement

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29 Jan 2011 02:21:54
Has torres left no! brain dead, its not goin to happen calm down dear(sorry about spelling ime as pissed as tiss was, run around!, The girl boy is not for turning. lol

beardsley's chin

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29 Jan 2011 02:18:13
To be honest guys why on earth is aguero gonna wanna join us for. no torres. No CL.
i would doutb he would want to. imo.

Harry5 {ed's note - he says he is a Liverpool fan.} torres is suppose to be a liverpool fan and if he is its because of the kenny days, im very shocked this is happening has put a right damper on the suarez deal. sumthing is not quite right here just can't put my finger on it. . . . deano

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29 Jan 2011 02:18:04
Sadly i have to go to bed now, as sad as i am about torres, the wifes friend has come round and they are going to put on a bit of a show for me so will need to keep focused, i will worry about torres tomorrow, night all,

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29 Jan 2011 02:16:24
Liverpool Rumours
What to do with £50m? Hazard, Mata & Honda or Ageuro & Turan please.

-IamTheCosmos

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29 Jan 2011 02:14:13
If he goes he wants to keep an eye on his misses or he will have jt and cashley hole sniffing after her,

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29 Jan 2011 02:13:27
Liverpool Rumours
Its like michael owen again, get shut of torres no-one is bigger than the reds (club/ man) remember rooney "once a blue always a blue" after his comments 2 weeks ago. I would love to know what kk thinks of him now. (judas). his head hasn't been in it all season. We only want players who want to be here
There is no chance of anyone else coming as time is almost up.

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29 Jan 2011 02:12:25
Liverpool Rumours
Yano what. It feels like a stab in the back from El Ninio if its all true. All season long last year he moaned and b**ched about getting quality players in. Now that Liverpool buy Suarez for him to partner, Fernando wants to jump ship to Chelsea!?

We can either let him go now and be hated by fans or refuse until the end of the season giving him the time to re-consider.

SO hear is what I suggest in two plans

Plan A) Sell him for £60 million and nothing less to chelsea and act REALY quickly to get in Arda Turan or Mata for the wing. And Then at least put in a decent bid in for Sergio Kun Aguero or A cheeky loan bid for Benzema with a option to buy at the end of the season. .

Plan B) Let the hollow worded t*t go in the summer to Europe or anyone who spends £60mil + and sell the likes of
Joe Cole
Kuyt
Poulsen
Jovanovic
Konchesky
Aquilani
Degen
Maxi
Skrtle
Kyria. .the greek
. .posibly Lucas. but i do like him.
And with that money and the money from the board rejuvinate the squad.

Bring in the players of
Ince
Suso
Eccleston
Spearing
Shelvey MORE starting 11
Kelly as a Starting 11
Pacheco

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29 Jan 2011 02:11:28
46 mill= llorente 20 mill pound =25 mill euro turan 12 mill 8 mill santon and 6 mill adam= 46 mill


pepe
johnson kelly agger santon

adam
meireles gerrard


turan llorente saurez

f*** off nando u blue nose what u think ed maybe better for us that means weve only spent 15 mill not bad buseniss? ?? ? ?. .
Lets get stadium done 65k chelsea can't even fill 40k seats there nothing us and the scum r the worlds biggest supported teams that's a fact! ! ! ! ! {ed's note - I would be happy with that team, it certainly looks stronger than our current side does, even though it has Torres.}

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29 Jan 2011 02:09:50
Nando is fantastic but he can rot in the reserves for the rest of the season if this is what he means by 'honouring his contract'. No shame, no integrity, no f##king off to the chavs. Flog him to Barca at the end of the season. We would be insane to sell him to another EPL club. Sorry Nando but the world doesn't revolve around you.
Newtydreads

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29 Jan 2011 02:08:15
Iv just woken up from a nightmare where fernando comes back to anfield nd scores a 90th min winner for chelski into the kop end nd runs off kissing the badge. .horrible horrible nightmare

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29 Jan 2011 02:08:14
Liverpool Rumours
To be honest, if Torres wants to go then good riddance. Hopefully, we'll get 40m+. He's a great striker on his day but his days have been few and far between recently so I'd be happy to cash in on someone who sulks, has sporadic form, doesn't want to play for us and is injury prone. I believe we have had his best (and fastest) years and it is not a bad time to get maximum value for his transfer.
The only thing that really grates is that, after pledging his loyalty to LFC, he goes to another EPL club. Thanks for your efforts over the past 3 years Fernando but I really hope that Chelsea win nothing in the next 5.

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29 Jan 2011 02:04:54
How CAN YOU REPLACE TORRES! He is the best in premiership!

Eh No he's not and hasn't been here is the proof:

2007/ 08 - Ronaldo Manchester United 31
Torres Liverpool 24
Adebayor Arsenal 24
Santa Cruz Blackburn Rovers 19

2008/ 09 - Anelka Chelsea 19
Ronaldo Manchester Utd 18
Gerrard Liverpool 16
Torres Liverpool 14

2009/ 10 - Drogba Chelsea 29
Rooney United 26
Bent Sunderland 24
Tevez Manchester City 23
Lampard Chelsea 22
Torres Liverpool 18

Now before you go ranting at me i am merely pointing out the flaw in your statement. I like everbody else was glad to have Torres at Liverpool and loved the goals he did score. But he most certainly has not been the most prolific striker since that first season and he is not the best Striker in the premiership by a long shot.

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29 Jan 2011 02:04:04
Sell torres buy kun an pastore
Ed what do you think on them signings {ed's note - I doubt we could get both for the price of Torres but if we could get both I would be happy with that.}

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29 Jan 2011 02:03:27
Liverpool Rumours
I wish Brian Swanson would wipe that smug f***ing grin off his face. Just cause he's getting more screen time than he and s**tty touch screen bollocks know what to do with, no need to rub our nose in it!

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29 Jan 2011 02:02:09
Liverpool Rumours
We saw this happen recently with Rooney and Tevez - both performed a U Turn. Hopefully Torres will see sense and do the same. Otherwise what he's fed us over the past few years/ weeks even is worth nothing. He will not be forgiven by us supporters and he'll be seen as a mercenary and rightly so! I thought the boy had class, i'm shocked and devastated to say it would appear i'm wrong! Have a word Stevie - sort this mess out

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29 Jan 2011 01:57:36
If torres does go, we hav suarez, but still havnt replaced babel, we need 2 sign a striker before he goes if he does. if he goes and no1 comes in its
babel out
torres out

suarez in,
good signing but 2 attacking players lost and 1 gained doesn't spell progress

jay b

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29 Jan 2011 01:57:27
I hope we sign ryan shawcross from stoke b4 we play chavski, it will be worth a red, lol

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29 Jan 2011 01:55:59
Tell you what I am hooked to this site I think its superb. What a day you must have had Ed! I will leave you to it now. In a bit great work.

Spriggo {ed's note - I am really struggling to keep up with work and doing this site at the moment. I was up till 5am getting my work done and I can see the same happening tonight. I am so glad February is nearly here!}

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29 Jan 2011 01:54:48
Liverpool Rumours
Thanks nando lfc helped make you into the great player that you are you have done so much for lfc what have we won in your time here?
the best thing to come out of today is that my son came home from school today very upset that you will be going but then turned round to his mum and said he will never be as good as dad what a result!

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29 Jan 2011 01:54:35
Liverpool Rumours
Well done board no one is bigger than r club torres can go when we deside he can go. 50 mil in the bank no good to us till we can spend it in the summer he s just showed his true colours and there not red

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29 Jan 2011 01:54:14
The timing of this is strange and goes against quotes from Torres after the Utd fixture. Ed, could it be that Liverpool want to get rid of him?

Spriggo {ed's note - the transfer request being made public does suggest they are happy to sell.}

like i said before i think commolli wants lukaka in, lukaka is a chelsea fan, chelsea get torres step out of the way for lukaka, we get a nw strike force of lukaka and suarezz with a ridiculous potential resale value, we get to cash in on torres now aged 26 his value will just go down in the coming years. it makes sense with what nesv have been saying all along about their buying policy

take the sixty million or 55 plus anelka, sign lukaka for 22 million then we have four strikers kuyt suarez anelka and lukaka and we have an extra 330 million in the bank for other areas than need strengthening

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29 Jan 2011 01:41:55
Liverpool Rumours
There is no point in holding on to torres if he does not want to play for us, as he has made a statement in the way his form has dipped this season, and no one player is bigger than the club, all respect for him is lost in a heartbeat.
if he is to go, whop his price tag up to £60m and demand drogba as well, just to see how chelski like having one of there players unsettled, test their minerals, and for gods sake don't make it easy for them! plus, NESV must secure a quality second striker before anything happens! oh, el nino, what have you done?

fly ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 01:41:24
Liverpool Rumours
Great news involving the agreement 2 sign Suarez its what weve being craving 4 a top quality striker 2 back up a TOP QUALITY STRIKER WE ALREADY HAVE IN EL NINO! a force that would be and hopefully will be feared not only in England but all over Europe if Torres has put in a request 2 leave then surely he s gone back on his word he wanted 2 be shown a commitment of Liverpool buying the top players from around the world or at least challenging 4 them and i think this move by NESV has proved we now want 2 compete again at the highest level and with Kenny now back at the helm we can only move 4ward so on this note its up 2 u Nando but all i would say 2 him is remember the grass isn t always GREENER! Just ask that little JUDAS Owen! how many Champions League medals he possesses!

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29 Jan 2011 01:41:13
Liverpool Rumours
Will be absolutely disgusted if Torres leaves for Chelsea! Would be a sure stab in the back! The transfer request was a slap in the face already and to think he would just turn his back on us like this hurts. I understand him wanting to win trophies and all. . that is what we all want! NESV have shown intent by agreeing a fee for Suarez and with his signing we are only a few top class players away from challenging any club in the world. Enough time has not been given to NESV to show what they are really capable of doing with us and if this is any sign then we are in great hands. With that being said if he wants out then get him out of here! No one is bigger than this club and we only want players that are willing to do whatever it takes for that shirt! If it happens, get as much money as we can from the Russian and sign another quality striker to partner Suarez. Put whats left over towards some other needed additions. Whatever happens it needs to get sorted out ASAP.

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29 Jan 2011 01:40:05
Liverpool Rumours
Nando has really let us all down and the club, if he leaves to a spanish or italian team then fair enough but if he leaves for chelsea i will be disgusted. he will become one the most hated figures in football not just by liverpool fans but fans all across the world for showing that he is nothing more than a money grabbing c*nt. handing in a transfer request so late in the window in january is dispicable from torres, he has possibly jepordized the suarez deal and has lost all respect from fans. either get city to pay a ridiculous amount for him or sell him to barca in the summer. he simply cannot be allowed to join chelsea.

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29 Jan 2011 01:39:11
Need someone to play with Suarez now. Diego Forlan can although I'm not keen myself. Are there realistic targets we can bring in such as this lad Lukau ed?

Spriggo {ed's note - loads mate, it will just come down to Kenny picking the player he wants with that kind of cash in our pocket.}

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29 Jan 2011 01:39:02
Am i the only 1 who feels sh*t with this news, like when u find out ur gf has been sleeping with window cleaner steve or something,
hes ruined my day, this was supposed to be suarez day i hate u for it :( (torres) not steve, that all got sorted out in the end

ynwa terry

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29 Jan 2011 01:39:00
Liverpool Rumours
50 million plus anelka

25 million for lukaka, 12 for sahko, 13 for m vila

reina
johnson kelly agger warnock
gerrard m vila meireles
anelka lukaka suarez {ed's note - I read earlier that Sakho is to be sold in the summer as the club can not afford his contract.}
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
in summer Just £50 mill
£30mil Fernando Llorente Torres, £12mil cissokho, £10mil shawcross. Aquillani for M'vila, Lucas for Adam
Konchesky+jovanovic+poulsen+Insua for Honda

Reina
Johnson Shawcross Agger Cissokho
Gerrard M'vila Meireles
Suarez Llorente Honda

miccmak

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29 Jan 2011 01:37:41
Just my own personal thought. .

Am glad Roy is not there today cause every fan would be blaming him for whats happening and not the selfish, lieing Spanish turd who is still pining after his dear old rafa. Let him rot in the reserves till summer and then get rid of.

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29 Jan 2011 01:36:49
Liverpool Rumours
Song for suarez

his name is luis he played for ajax , signed for us to parnter torres who went and left us now please don't take our luis away

to the music you are my sunshine

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29 Jan 2011 01:36:47
Soloution : sell him for 45 mill wen we play against him in 2 weeks get gerrard to hit him were it hurts so hes out for the season then that way the scum bag can rotttt in bed . . . . . . . .

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29 Jan 2011 01:34:48
Liverpool Rumours
WE ARE LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB! !
No player is bigger then the team! Players still want to come to us and we will be a top team again soon!

If Torres wants to go, then let him. All we can do is thank him for three good years and promise him that every trophy he wins with his new club isn't going to be as important to him as the love he got from the worlds best fans, sad for him that he will figure that out when its to late. We will again be #1 in England and we will win many more Champions League trophyes in the years to come, but most likely it will be without Fernando Torres.

We will get 2-3 world class players for the money when he leaves us.

I don't think people are sad because they think Liverpool won't be a top team again, or that Torres is impossible to replace because that's not true, but its because we love everything about him.

Fernando Torres thanks for everything you have done for this club and we will allways be thankfull for that and never forget You will never walk alone. .

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29 Jan 2011 01:32:02
He wants to leave cause hes not a man of his word, gave us the wrong impression, he commited his future to us 3 weeks ago which was stupid, think hed wait till after d window,
id sell him providing we cud get a replacement straight away, rather play ngog than a player who doesn't wanna be there, pity this didn't happen last week,
niang might be worth a shout for the short term, till summer


wat u make of all this ed?

jay b {ed's note - if we sell him we could afford Aguero.}yeah ed but aguero i doubt will leav madrid in january, which is why i said niang short term.

soooo.

jay b {ed's note - Atleti probably wouldn't give him a choice if the money was offered, they are skint.}

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29 Jan 2011 01:31:26
Ed you say that Fernando has an offer to good to refuse from Chelsea, but Liverpool made it clear that he was not for sale. So how could Chelsea have been allowed to discuss terms with the player?

isn't that against the rules. {ed's note - I said it is a possibility and yes it is against the rules, but it happened with Gerrard in 2005 remember?}

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29 Jan 2011 01:31:15
Liverpool Rumours
Dont know if I could actually watch Torres play in a Liverpool shirt again after knowing he put in a transfer request. Dont come crying back to us when John Terry and Ashley Cole are spit roasting your wife!

RED BOB

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29 Jan 2011 01:30:20
Liverpool Rumours
What the f**k legend in the making then f***s it up big shoes saurez

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29 Jan 2011 01:28:29
I don't think that Kenny would keep a player at the club till the Summer if he didn't want to play for us. Handing in this transfer request has shown Torres's true colours, he definitely wants out. Chelsea will come in with a bigger offer and it will accepted. Lets hope that we can get someone in of decent quality in the next few days, and look on to the Summer were the real rebuilding of LFC will take place!

Lovett32

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29 Jan 2011 01:28:17
Liverpool Rumours
Its a huge test for Kenny now. And the owners. But I feel Kenny is the best man for it. I would bet right now that they are lining up there replacement just invade Chelsea offer 50 60 million they know that's alot of money and they could really press on and push club forward. I would love to see late move for aguero but who knows the end of the day it will be Torres that suffers not us. He will be kicking himself wen next weekend we play Chelsea and there's 10000 fc fans signing you never walk alone and he's got a blue shirt on watching Suarez score in his number 9 shirt.

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29 Jan 2011 01:25:54
Liverpool Rumours
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . REINA. . . . . . . . . . . .

KELLY. . . . . .CARA. . . . . . .AGGER. . . .JOHNSON.

. . . . . . . . . . . . .MASCHERANO. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . .GERRARD. . . . . . MEIRELES. . . . .

. . . . KUYT . . . . . . TORRES. . . . . . SUAREZ. . .

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29 Jan 2011 01:22:19
Liverpool Rumours
So Torres wants to go - let him go we all know he has no future with us now - how can he have.
with the money go out now and get Forlan, Suarez and Forlan together would be ideal, know each others game, played together before, work very well together.
not sure how much Forlan would cost 15m to 20m also get Turan with the money from Torres and don't take no for an answer get them NOW
that gives them 4 months and a pre season to gel and if we fnish outside europe placings so be it this was always a transistional season any way. come august with a little tweeking ie a left back, new centre back and have an all out assault on the league next year not distracted by any european football with players that have aalready settled in.
and if i was the board i would encourage Citeh to enter the bidding for torres raising the price in an auction coz as far as i can see chelsea have already agreed personal terms with him and that means an illegal approach .
i feel suarez is a good signing and would have been brilliant with torres but that aint gonna happen now - the kop is still here and we will have a new hero to worship as we did when keegan left, when dalglish finished, when rushie left, when aldo left, when fowler left no one is bigger than this club and its supporters and no one loves a hero more than the liverpool fans so who will lose out - torres going to a team with no history, an ageing team with no youth system and a club with no soul. this is stamford bridge so what we are LIVERPOOL a club renown throughout the world as a club of fine tradition with the respect of every other major club in the world who respect the history and the fans of this great club - so go play for a soul less , historyless club because you have sold your soul to the highest bidder and made your agent a very very rich man - good choice nando and goodbye

bigg2966

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29 Jan 2011 01:22:15
Lets get rid lads/ ladies and start again. Would it be that big a loss?

He has had 3 or 4 good games this season.

We need players who would die to play for our club.

Lets all stick together till the summer where i am told the owners are willing to spend big.

Macca


I don't claim to have any major contacts within football but i also believe we will spend big in the summer. We simply have to.
Keep Torres until July then bring on an auction.
We need him for Europa League anyway as we'd have no decent striker left for that competition if he was left go now. Please god Kenny will see the bigger picture. Don't back down John Henry please.
Don't get bullied by Chelsea.
This is the big moment where you can prove once & for all you have Liverpool's best interests at heart!
Let Torres sweat it out till July & get booed so he can see how much he's left us down.
We're not like the Mancs!
Shouldn't offer him more cash like Shrek's situation a few months back! Stand firm John, Tom & The King!
Don't be held to ransom by that weedy Spaniard.
Cheers,
Irish Kev.

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29 Jan 2011 01:22:08
Liverpool Rumours
Nando has just proven that hes not a true red hes is 1 of our main players and if he goes it has 2 be ovr 50m
what we need r true reds like turan whose dream as a child was 2 play 4 livrpool or Walcott who was a reds suporter wen he was younger players like these is wat we need if nando was a true red he wudnt even think of movin 2 chelsea as areplacement 4 him we shud buy either aguero or lloriente both young and great strikers

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29 Jan 2011 01:21:27
Liverpool Rumours
If torres wants to leave i'd say let him I would prefer sum1 who would put there heart and soul into being a Liverpool player! Get the money and sign players who want to put the red shirt on!

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29 Jan 2011 01:21:00
Liverpool Rumours
Let fernando go for 60+ sign benzima for 25 adam 9 and johnson for 20

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29 Jan 2011 01:20:31
Liverpool Rumours
35 million ha . .what an insulting offer. .how can the most clinical striker in World football be only 10 mill more than Darren Bent!
Stump up 60 if u want him!

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29 Jan 2011 01:16:23
Im in two minds, sounds like the rooney united situation earlier in the season. that ended up with rooney looking like he was bigger than united. fernando has given alot to us but he is not bigger than this club. If you walk to chelsea you do walk alone . . . . (anyone but chelsea! )

Chunky

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29 Jan 2011 01:16:18
To be honest guys why on earth is aguero gonna wanna join us for. no torres. No CL.
i would doutb he would want to. imo.

Harry5 {ed's note - he says he is a Liverpool fan.}

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29 Jan 2011 01:15:57
Liverpool Rumours
Ed,
what would u think of the partnership of Mario Gomez and Suarez up front for the Pool. With Torres wanting to leave, we could probably hit Chelsea for about 50 million and get Gomez for 25 million. Leaving money to get a decent left-sided winger too.

Lovett32 {ed's note - I doubt Bayern would want to sell Gomez and to be honest I don't rate him myself.}

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29 Jan 2011 01:12:40
The problem with Torres is that he likes to play up front alone. A real strike partnership could match him. Don't know how they will play Drogba with him but I can't see it working.

Spriggo

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29 Jan 2011 01:11:26
Liverpool Rumours
How can torres not realise how good he has it at liverpool
there is a reason why all our strikers (rush/ fowler/ nearly owen) return to the club and its because they are never as worshipped as they are at anfield, and they never reproduce the form the fans spur them on to

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29 Jan 2011 01:11:10
Liverpool Rumours
Whatever the deal is from chelsea we need to get anelka as part of the deal
50 million plus anelka sounds about right, anelka can do it in the epl, he s getting on but he would give us time to get proper long term replacements like lukaka, don't believe aguero has the physical presence to replace nando and personally i like a little and large front two

though ideally really ideally, i d take their 50 million plus anelka and sign lukaka for 22, m vila for 13, honda 13 and give torres the bird on his way out! !

new front three

anelka lukaka suarez

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29 Jan 2011 01:09:30
Tell Man City to bid tell them the price is 40 mil plus Adam Johnson and maybe someone like Richards. The he can go there and fight for his place with Dzeko Tevez et al

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29 Jan 2011 01:05:56
Today we have had doubters about torres and suares
before the sighning, then after suares sighns yehh!.
.then another spate of torres doubt an hate.
I thought our fans had faith and guts

aintry dave

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29 Jan 2011 01:05:55
Someone made a very good point earlier!
We support Liverpool - Not Fernando Torres!
Sell him in the summer Kenny & build your own side with the £40m+ (not including what we have in the bank already.
Who is with me - Agree
Sell now - Disagree
In the meantime let him see how much he has angered us by throwing this in our faces!
He's let us down - more than Owen did!
Rat!
Kev.

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29 Jan 2011 01:05:42
29 Jan 2011 00:14:06
Ok boys let's put our cards on the table, Blair get your cards out, you too ed's and everyone else, I have read every site I usually read for gossip, Including all twitter accounts. From what I can gather every jurno is reporting Torres has phoned the club and asked to leave. This includes all times Liverpool fan and one guardian based one who is clearly pissed off with some abuse he has had. The officials of this site have pointed out that the times cannot be believed along with sky news and it's betting site. So what do we all believe. For me, and this pure guess work, I reconhe is going to stay, as lfc have said he has not for sale and I just don't get why he would want to join Chelsea, if they said barca, or Milan or even city then i would probably consider it but Chelsea are clearly way off it at mo and there squad seems old, and everyone seems to be turning them down or they get outbid by city.

So lads what's it to be staying or going?

Bob loblaw

What worries me is not so much the Chelsea bid but the rumours of his wanting to go. This will alert other clubs he may consider such as Barcelona, Inter/ AC and yes even City (Wages talk eventually). I can't see him joining Chelsea unless something weird like Rafa being their next manager.
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It depends on how NESV want to be percieved Bob. If they want to show us fans they will not be bullied by any player, then Torres will be here this time next week. But if you recall when NESV took over they said they won't be selling any of our top players. But they also said they don't want anyone who is unhappy at the club.

Hopefully NESV will dig their heels in and then sell him in the summer. Which gives us months and not days to line up replacements.

I'm with the Ed's i really don't get this one. I would understand it more and expect it, if it was the summer and he wanted to go. But now with 3 days remaining in the transfer window and little chance of finding a replacement, I just can't get my head round it? ? 

Blair Mayne YNWA
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Same here Blair, the only thing I can think that explains it is what Macca said about him not socialising with the rest of the team and fell out with the players! Every time I've seen him play John Terry, they always have a go at each other, I cannot believe he would rather have him as a captain over      Gerrard.

Bob loblaw

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29 Jan 2011 01:05:40
Liverpool Rumours
{Editor's Note: I guess we are in a let's all stand back and figure where we are mode.}

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Getting a bit sick of this all Eds, my nine year old son greeted me with a massive high-five this evening having (hopefully) secured Suarez.

How the f**k do I tell him in the morning that El Nino wants to leave? The way I feel right now I'd rather tell him that his mum has run off with the postman.

The Booter {ed's note - the way our luck is going I wouldn't even mention that possibility or you will find her packing as we speak!}

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29 Jan 2011 01:05:30
Liverpool Rumours
I wouldn't blame Torres, he was promised so much and shown a very rosy future by the former owners and Purslow. nothing has come to fruition so now he has had enough. I think that's what made the Suarez deal go through really fast. As a true Red, I just hope Kenny, Henry, Gerrard being the captain can talk to Fernando and persuade him to stay. and we need at least a another player like Suarez. preferably a wide-man (maybe Elia, since Turan won't be available till summer) to show Fernando that the promises will finally be fulfilled and that he belongs at Anfield. I have full faith that the fans will be behind him and won't cheer him in the next game. Remember Gerrard when he almost joined Chelsea. and for once Chelsea should be reported to Fifa for tapping up. They have done it so many times in the past!

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29 Jan 2011 01:05:27
The team is being strengthened, money being spent, good players being touted,
so what the f'@@k is happening behind closed doors.
Why with 3/ 4 days to go would Torres hand in a transfer request.
If this is true why Chelsea? if Barca came calling then fair enough but "win nothing this year" Chelsea, your havin a laugh.
If anyone "Macca" can shed some light then this is the time!

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29 Jan 2011 01:04:55
When you think about it guys his agent will get 10%of his transfer, so if he goes for about 60m his agent will get 6m in his pocket, if you were his agent wouldn't you be telling him to move?

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29 Jan 2011 01:03:44
Liverpool Rumours
Would just be nice for once for the player to say he wants to leave by himself. all these rumours , gossip etc. if he's not happy then let him go. but for not a penny less than 40m. fsg youve got a good deal on suarez (great player!). ynwa

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29 Jan 2011 01:03:39
Liverpool Rumours
If torres can break his word to our club that easy then i don't want the scumbag

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29 Jan 2011 01:02:26
29 Jan 2011 00:17:58
Well guys what do I know, never actually thought he'd want to move. Somebody posted earlier on that this was a deja-vous from when Kenny was last our manager. Rush was sold to Juventus then went and bought Aldo, Barnsey and Beardsley, the team he then put out was probably one of the greatest ever to represent LFC.
So much for his love for LFC. Don't want him here anymore, but don't sell him until the summer until we have a replacement., and for nothing less than £45M. I am completely gutted. What's going on Ed.
Oh, by the way, spot on again Macca.

Sooty

Hey it was me who posted about aldo beardo and barnes. .We have to remember that LFC is bigger than Fernando Torres. .At the end of the day if he wants to go then let him go for as much as we can get. .There will be another great striker at LFC. .there always is

hunt. .keegan. . toshack. .dalglish. .rush. .aldo. .fowler. .owen. .torres. . . ?? ?
the future will write in the names to come. .have faith in LFC! !

Red andy

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29 Jan 2011 01:01:25
Liverpool Rumours
40million and anelka would we take that

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29 Jan 2011 01:01:12
I can't find any official statement from luis suarez saying hed only sign if torres is there

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29 Jan 2011 01:01:01
Liverpool Rumours
As far as I am concerned he can go jump off a cliff - Torres is nowt but a turncoat clearly. Sulked for 4 months til December then turned it on for 4 weeks (build up and first 3 weeks of window) If as reported he has handed in the request then we should cash in - buy Turan, Honda & Lukaku/ Toivenen and start with a fresh new forward line. If FT wanted to go to Spain or another league then with my blessing - but to Chelsea? A team that if not invested in will be ageing and falling faster than Northern Rock shares circa 2008. We have a new Manager (albeit legend), new owners, new investment, new strike partner, revived confidence and atmosphere at the club he supposedly loves . . . and he wants a move to Chelski - "walk on" Nando - and not in the Anfield sense.

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29 Jan 2011 01:00:50
Liverpool Rumours
If torres wants to go days after committing his future then we should stick him in the reserves for the rest of the season as he is sh***ing on us by handing in a request with very little timr to replace him

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29 Jan 2011 01:00:12
This is a complete shock all day ive callin them ssn t**ts liars
looks like im the fool but im sayin nothing about it till its sorted out becuase if he stays i don't want to end up like the scum with rooney callin for his head and acting like it didn't happen,

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29 Jan 2011 01:00:02
Liverpool Rumours
Not so much a rumour, more a observation. torres hands in transfer request, liverpool reject it. lets hope john & tom break a million chavski blue hearts, and be stubborn b******s and keep torres where he is!. the worst thing about this whole scenario is chavskis gameplan of nicking torres right at the end of the transfer window, so in effect strengthening them, and weakening us!, no time to get a replacement. please john & tom show a bit of steel, and put those desperate chavs in their place!, don't care if it upsets torres, hes not upset about breaking milions of red hearts!

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29 Jan 2011 00:58:19
The timing of this is strange and goes against quotes from Torres after the Utd fixture. Ed, could it be that Liverpool want to get rid of him?

Spriggo {ed's note - the transfer request being made public does suggest they are happy to sell.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:57:19
I can't understand torres wanting to leave now! Seriously! And we won't have enough time to get a new striker. Other than suarez. I'd like to say sure sell him and buy aguero and turan and have beta squad but there's not enough time. I know there's always the summer but that is to far away. And Chelsea aren't even on top. So annoyed but will be funNy if he leaves for Chelsea then pool finish above them next year! Worst timing Eva.

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29 Jan 2011 00:56:19
So much for I wouldn't join another English club, I love liverpool blar! blar! !

Money money money, I want this! I want that! I'm bigger and better than football and the this great club. . .'Things aren't going my way so for that reason I'm out'

. .Just goes to show what legend a Stevie G really is and what it really means to be a (REAL) red. He walked the through the valley of the shadow of death (Chelski attempt to sign him) and is now sitting at the right hand of the King.

Name me one player in Liverpools history who was better player for leaving? Alonso aside.

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29 Jan 2011 00:55:56
Kun Lukaku suarez

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29 Jan 2011 00:55:48
Like I said earlier today! Liverpool should do a deal now with Chelsea for £50 million for a transfer in the summer. They will get Torres & we will get time to buy another forward, hopefully Llorente. It is absolutely pointless holding onto a player that doesn't want to be there. Saying all that, I thought Fernando had a bit more class than to hand in a transfer request, but then again does anything suprise you in football.I bet Kenny never seen that coming!

The Irish Rover

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29 Jan 2011 00:55:35
Liverpool Rumours
The grass isn't always greener fernando.
if he wants out lets take the 50 mil in this so called release clause, get ourselves a nifty little argentinian in the shape of aguero for near 40 mill aguero and suarez up front is better than suarez and a sulking and seemingly blind fernando torres how stupid to want to join chelsea, small club man small club.
and i suppose use the other 10 mill plus a nice injection of around 15 mil from the owners and grab n'zobia and honda if not him stump up a little more for young and torres can go and eat his boots.

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29 Jan 2011 00:55:13
Liverpool Rumours
We should of known this was coming , a couple of days ago fsg were willing to pay up to 13 million for suarez and now a couple of days later they doubled thier bid, we should of asked ourselves why, it was the owners insurance policy because they new that torres would hand in request, and my son believed in you torres na na na na chelseas number 9 :(

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29 Jan 2011 00:53:52
Liverpool Rumours
I'd rather sell torres & hope chelsea win title than let manure overtake our title reign! next season it's on! jose in charge suares bangin them in supported by hazard & turan. Oh yeah!

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29 Jan 2011 00:52:49
Liverpool Rumours
You built the birds outside your house torres torres. ynwa u said torres torres once a red now a blue, f*** drogba and nando too LOUIS SUAREZ LIVERPOOL'S NO9

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29 Jan 2011 00:51:55
80million for torres would only get me talking

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29 Jan 2011 00:50:14
Another thing, i hope this doesn't affect luis suarez wanting to join, i know he wants 2 play for LFC, but he might see us selling torres as a really bad thing and fail 2 agree terms,

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29 Jan 2011 00:49:55
We should put 80m as the price for torres same as ronaldo as he is just as good, i would let him rot in the reserves he will still have over 2 yrs left on his contract next summer, how can he play for us again if he has handed in a transfer request, gutted but life goes on, im more concerned that suarez will change his mind if he goes, the way we have let players go and go on loan i can see konchesky being our star player,

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29 Jan 2011 00:49:38
Liverpool Rumours
Torres OUT
Pacheco to play until summer.

After all, the best we can hope to achieve is 5th so what's the point of rushing transfers?

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29 Jan 2011 00:49:35
Ed, I don't understand this. Why would Nando do this now? Surely he would know how much he would be leaving the club in a mess by doing this in the last few days of the winter transfer window. Also, he never has seemed to be consumed by money in the past, so why would he be now? This is all very confusing and hard to take in right now.

DownUnderRed {ed's note - it is very strange, something has turned his head, he was unhappy before KK but he had seemed back to himself again since the King's return.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:49:07
Liverpool Rumours
All this talk of "I don't care about Suarez" is disgraceful, why don't we get behind our new signing (assuming he goes ahead with everything now) and show him the kind of support we gave Torres. If Torres wants to leave so be it, there are plenty of players out there to replace him, for all we know we may be better off without him. If Suarez plays for us with the commitment he has shown for Ajax then we will be ok, especially with a couple of decent signings around him.

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29 Jan 2011 00:49:04
Liverpool Rumours
I've seen this lad for so long dutch league or not he's super
Luis suuareezz come on down!
Suarez-aguero = killer :)

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29 Jan 2011 00:46:59
Liverpool Rumours
So Torres waitgs until we start bringing in players of the type he demanded, then hands in a transfer request?

So it shows that his word is worth nothing again, another mercenary who just wants it all.

Get rid of him and use the money to get Lukaku in and with him, Suarez and probably Sturridge as back up, we will still have a strong attacking line up, but with a lot more depth than we are used to.

If he wants to go, let him go, as he has proved, his word means nothign when commiting himself to us until the summer, so if we force him to stay, is he going to give us any effort.

I don't want to take that risk

Red4Ever

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29 Jan 2011 00:46:54
Liverpool Rumours
Dissapointed to hear the stories about Torres handing in a transfer request especially after signing Suarez.
I thaught Torres would show more loyalty, the same kind of loyalty that kept him at Athletico madrid for so long.

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29 Jan 2011 00:46:50
I guess if Torres leaves he will finally understand what Liverpool Football Club actually is- -what it means.

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29 Jan 2011 00:46:50
Liverpool Rumours
We've had players having their head turned by Chelsea, only to end up staying - Gerrard circa 2005 and 2006. I hope Torres can be persuaded to stay by Kenny, but if he wants to move - it has to be on our terms
RedSG

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29 Jan 2011 00:45:21
Liverpool Rumours
I am so gutted and angry the suarez factor hasn't lasted long actually hate chelski as much as united noww urghhh the more i think bout it the angrier i get y has torres dun this to us i fr one hope that if he moves on to chelski we pummel them so badly get into top 4 make loads of big signings n then hav torres begin to take him bak which other lfc fan wud luv it if he moved n this hapened he also played it cleva with us not havin a game this weekend ed plzz make mw feel better as i drown mi sorrows in some gud old whiskey {ed's note - make you feel better? Are you making a pass at me?}

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29 Jan 2011 00:44:56
Is that a contract to 2014 I see?

Why, yes, Torres, yes it is.

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29 Jan 2011 00:44:29
29 Jan 2011 00:13:35
Liverpool Rumours
Its on lfc website liverpool have rejected it saying he has long contract and they expect him to honour it, to ed, if say chelski offered 50m and city came in with 60m whats happens can he choose chelski over city although they offered more money, or is it up to club, i would rather him go s**tty and have all the trouble and fighting they have there will teach him, torres will have to change his armband, you will walk alone,

its upto liverpool if they accept city and not chelsea then u tell him u want out then its either for more money for us or u don't leave

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29 Jan 2011 00:44:07
Liverpool Rumours
I cannot take this anymore. Every time I think we have turned the corner we just seem to get another kicking. Et tu Brute? ? Et tu Torres? ? I am not angry. I haven't got the energy to be angry anymore. I am just so so sad about the whole mess.

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29 Jan 2011 00:42:50
Heeeeees nooooooot goooooiiiinnnngg stop flapping. jesus h keny

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29 Jan 2011 00:42:15
Liverpool Rumours
Last liverpool big name striker to engineer his way out of anfield. . .michael owen 2004

following season champions league winners 2005 then fa cup winners 2006

would happily trade torres for £50 mill and some silverware

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29 Jan 2011 00:42:05
Liverpool Rumours
IF he goes, realistic targets: Hazard, Turan, Alexis Sanchez, Lukaku, Aguero (KUN not Ken)

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29 Jan 2011 00:41:47
Right, im over the initial shock;

Torres, if this is your agent f**king about, you had best apologise one way or another asap.

I personally believe you are a great part of LFC and this is just the start. You stay and continue to play as we know you can; you'll be a kop legend beyond all our time on this earth, a legacy that will be unmatched at any club in the world. You leave, you turn your back on the fans, the club, the players and you will regret it.

KK - talk some sense into the man or at the very least, confirm Aguero before you let him go. I still believe he is LFC through and through, he needs to remember what he came here to do and do it.

This just isn't right somehow. I can't understand the timing of it all?

HodgsonOut

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29 Jan 2011 00:41:37
Ed,
How on earth am i ameant to sleep tonight?
I feel like s**t!

Harry5:)YNWA {ed's note - it is going to take me all night to catch up on the posts!}

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29 Jan 2011 00:40:36
Let Him Go
we did better without him!
Won champs league & and got to another final
Just strengthn the team with Commited players
a stuning player with no morales remember he left Athletico for us ( ad they won Uefa Cup)
he's been crap since he cut his hair anyway
just go out and stop worrying S**g the missis have a few drinks listen to some good music he won't care he get's 80'000 grand a week and clearley not enough! Like chelsea are going to win league!

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29 Jan 2011 00:40:36
Liverpool Rumours
FT9 can go £60 mill LFC was formed in 1892 along time before nando and it will go on along time after he finshes playing.The staff the players and the fans are 1, if a player see's himself as different from that fair enough move aside for a player who subscribes to that mantra only then will we move forward.It broke my heart to read about his request on the LFC site i bear no hard feeling towards him.

In KK we trust GYRED

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29 Jan 2011 00:40:20
Liverpool Rumours
It may be the case that Torres was promised a different strike partner and when the Club signed Suarez he saw this as being another broken promise and this triggered the request. That or it's a money squeeze; anything else makes no sence taking everything into consideration in interviews, his books, comments etc.

One thing is certain, we have the right manager at the Club to do what's best for the Club at this stage. If that means selling Torres then good luck and goodbye; if that means a new deal then fair enough. Dalglish will do what's right for LFC.

RPAS

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29 Jan 2011 00:39:54
I m wondering about the sudden burst of cash now to sign suarez, could it be that they knew they d have money coming in now from torres have forced him to write a transfer request so they don't look bad when he leaves and they spend 26 million euros on his replacement, don't buy any other squad additions and sell torres for a huge profit

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29 Jan 2011 00:39:46
Liverpool Rumours
Mr ed the comment u making the fun of was posted well before u decided to put that comment on the rumour page. I m taking about the comment which says why lfc site saying . . . . . . So rather than being slow if u be quick it would be great then you wnt make these remarks about someones comment it was just to ask you that everyone saying on ur site torres thing is wrong and i read the
lfc website and put the comment but it took u 25 minutes to put the comment on ur website so that u canmake the fun of it {ed's note - there are hundreds of comments for us to wade through mate, most of them saying exactly the same as you did. You have to excuse us for making light of things, humour is the only way to cope with it all sometimes.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:38:29
Liverpool Rumours
Today i said " suarez signed i can sleep"
Just about to go to bed an BREAKING NEWS
"bye bye sleep"

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29 Jan 2011 00:38:22
Liverpool Rumours
I would be most pissed off if we sign suarez sell torres then buy no one else, if this happens then torres s decision to leave will have proven to be a correct one

i believe he wants the club to match his ambitions and is leaving because they wont

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29 Jan 2011 00:37:39
Liverpool Rumours
First time Poster, If Torres wants to go let him go but not until the summer, I think if we can get anything near45 to 50 Million take it, it could help in our rebuilding process, We need a Quality CB, LB, LW and a replacement for Torres.
Honda(January)
Mata(summer)
Kjaer(Summer)
coentrao(Summer)
Not sure how likely any of these signings would be but with a kitty of 50 to 60 million(from Torres sale ans summer budget) they are the type of players we should be going for,
Ed if Torres goes who would you like to see replace him? Would you agree with selling him during the summer, seen as he now has verbally admitted he wants to leave. . Graigue man. . . {ed's note - I would go for Aguero to replace him, failing that Llorente or Rossi, maybe Hulk or Falcao even. Important thing is we get a bit of width into the team I think. Who would you go for?}

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29 Jan 2011 00:37:18
Liverpool Rumours
Torres has handed in a transfer request, so set chelsea a fee of 50mill to be done by tomorrow evening or wait until the summer, nobody is bigger than our club, and no point having a torres who clearly doesn't want to wear the MIGHTY RED SHIRT again, so go bid for aguero and get the deal done

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29 Jan 2011 00:37:00
Liverpool Rumours
Abramovic, just buy the league if you want it. . i'd rather watch Torres wrot in the reserves than play for Chelsea!

If we have to sell him (which i don't think we should), we should only sell him back to a spanish club!

Hopefully this will blow over, still need a decent winger though, come on Torres, give the new partnership a chance!

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29 Jan 2011 00:36:45
He wants to leave cause hes not a man of his word, gave us the wrong impression, he commited his future to us 3 weeks ago which was stupid, think hed wait till after d window,
id sell him providing we cud get a replacement straight away, rather play ngog than a player who doesn't wanna be there, pity this didn't happen last week,
niang might be worth a shout for the short term, till summer


wat u make of all this ed?

jay b {ed's note - if we sell him we could afford Aguero.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:36:35
Replacement suggestion. Hulk anyone?

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29 Jan 2011 00:36:27
Im so sad :( I still love you torres just don't go to a premier league club

True Red

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29 Jan 2011 00:35:33
Bye Torres. Nice one. Loved the goals. Loved the celebs.

Let's get after a replacement or use the money wisely.

Spriggo

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29 Jan 2011 00:34:22
Liverpool Rumours
Theres I'd no way torres is leaving he has said he will stay for the length of his contract so that's that. We will sign 3more player by the end of Sunday and then we are done till the summer

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29 Jan 2011 00:32:43
50 million plus anelka

25 million for lukaka, 12 for sahko, 13 for m vila

reina
johnson kelly agger warnock
gerrard m vila meireles
anelka lukaka suarez {ed's note - I read earlier that Sakho is to be sold in the summer as the club can not afford his contract.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:32:12
Liverpool Rumours
Torres leaves I'll be devestated but with the owners showing their intent with Suarez and the club starting to feel like the old days. .those of you will remember when we sold Rush and brought in Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge.

Clutching at straws. .

The Booter

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29 Jan 2011 00:32:00
Liverpool Rumours
I am an Arsenal fan so I know what you Liverpool fans are going through with the whole Torres things. I honestly believe Torres will go in the summer not january but again I thought Tevez and Rooney would leave so maybe he wants more money. However I think he will go in the summer but not to a PL club, to Real Madrid. They need another striker and I think Torres will be there target.

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29 Jan 2011 00:31:42
Liverpool Rumours
Had another idea maybe im talking nonsense but maybe a possibility. Maybe the deal with Suarez taking it's time has been to do with the amount of wages he is going to want and not acctually the fee. Maybe then Torres knows this and Suarez will be getting paid more than him and he's not happy bout that. Maybe i'm wrong but when Kenny mentioned the other day it was tough getting the players to switch clubs it sounded as it could be down to wages not fee's?

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29 Jan 2011 00:31:40
Liverpool Rumours
ABSOLUTELY GUTTED! why would he want to leave now? Makes no sense. I'd be gutted if he went to Barca, but to Chelsea? Actually makes me feel sick :( bad times. Something has defo happened to kick all this off, why go now when we have just signed a top striker, we have owners willing to invest, and a manager who is adored by everyone connected with the club. I can't wait for him to make a statement and explain this to us all. Still want him to stay though.

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29 Jan 2011 00:31:08
Liverpool Rumours
He could have been a legend, but instead will now fade away, just like owen.He will join an ageing team of primadonnas.take the money, trust in lius suarez and move on.oh and Nando write a new book telling all the cockneys how much you love chelsea and admire their (very)recent history.this is a move you WILL regret.In kenny we trust.YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 00:30:40
29 Jan 2011 00:03:31
If torres wants to leave he should go. . theres no point having an unhappy striker. . i want him to stay but if hes unhapp let him go and strenghten the rest of the squad

there is no time hence the rejection of his request, summer is when it will happen

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29 Jan 2011 00:29:40
Liverpool Rumours
WE ARE LIVERPOLL FC NOT torres fc

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29 Jan 2011 00:28:57
Liverpool Rumours
How can ppl still be saying that they think its media stunt? Its on the lfc website as an announcement!

Im not buying into the rooney/ tevez situation either, torres HAD always seemed more moral than that.

We're going to have to get used to Torres in a blue shirt unfortunately. .and no doubt he will prob score against us next week!

We need a big, big replacements in terms of several players rather than just a striker. Maybe two good wide men and a left back, let Suarez play through the middle. .if he signs! !

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29 Jan 2011 00:28:47
Let Suarez bite him !

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29 Jan 2011 00:28:23
Torres is a clown. im gonna join chelsea watch utd win the lge finish in europa lge and start crying wen ive made a mistake. suarez to teach him a lesson in scoring. he can't even explain y he wants to leave im sorry but that is disgraceful. hope carra is back 4 chelsea game he won't mess about torres in hospital in first 5 mins. however xavi gave liverpool a warning which everyone ignored fail to do well this season and torres is out. difference between gerrard and torres. gerrard tries even wen not playing well and is loyal

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29 Jan 2011 00:27:33
Liverpool Rumours
His head his been turned and promised all the riches but KK needs to tell him he is at the best club he can be at and we need to get behind the club and tell him how good this club is. We will be back better than we was before.

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29 Jan 2011 00:27:32
Liverpool Rumours
I'm really disappointed. Torres was a season from being mentioned in the same breath as Dalglish, Rush and Fowler in 10 years. Being looked at as one of the greats.
Now the snide little prick has gone and done an Owen on us and made a run for it out the back door. I don't blame him for leaving, but the way he has gone about it disgusts me.
He committed himself 2 weeks ago, finally gets on form, welcomes the return of a club legend - then goes and asks for a move to Chelsea.

Suarez isn't good enough to tie Torres's boots, we all know that. Time to get the Torres deal done for £55-60m, then throw a £40m bid at Aguero or Llorente.

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29 Jan 2011 00:27:24
Liverpool Rumours
Im gutted that torres wants to leave us liverpool fans should deserve better we chant hes name with pride even when he plays bad, he said he was at liverpool for the remander of hes contract now we can say bye bye to reina and gerrard is feels like we just can't have any good luck hear man u hear chelski have torres and i give up i backed liverpool all my life and when you put that shirt on you honour it just let this session end asap! !

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29 Jan 2011 00:27:18
Liverpool Rumours
Straight swap torres for aguero?

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29 Jan 2011 00:26:32
Are these evertonians talking on San? Saying if money is there then replace him?? How CAN YOU REPLACE TORRES! He is the best in premiership! No dosnt matter how much is offered, we even talking tike a mid table club now, it's mid table clubs that say if get money to get cpl players then sell. Liverpool do not sell there best players until we have had there best years out of them end of story! So stop all this talk about if money is there then sell him! No no no no Liverpool should do everything in ther power to keep him! ! ! Ed a percentage of people you have spoken to about wot is that wants him to stay? ? {ed's note - you can always replace players, we have replaced better players than him, such as our current manager.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:26:27
28 Jan 2011 23:48:02
His armband proved he was a red Suarez, Suarez! You'll never walk alone it said Suarez, Suarez! He bought the band off a lad from Spain, Blonde hair, forgotten the name! Luis Suarez Liverpool's new number 9!


That's boss that lad cheered me right up Thanx

Joey k

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29 Jan 2011 00:26:15
Liverpool Rumours
Tbf, I wouldn't mind 50 mill, bam, and sold!

I hope he does as good at Chelsea as he's done for us this season.

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29 Jan 2011 00:26:04
Liverpool Rumours
Gutted we had some great news today now Torres does this i say f**k him let him go and bring in 2 other forwards. End of the day he's only played well last 3 or 4 games this season he's also to blame and the rest of the players as to why we have had a bad season so if he's moaning bout league position he wants to take a look at his performances this year. What a let down gutted like but sod him end of the day Owen, Fowler, Rush they have all had to leave at some point and someone else came along and will do again. U agree Ed? {ed's note - I would be happy to see him go if we get a replacement.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:25:44
Liverpool Rumours
Take the cash and move on lfc is bigger than anyone there used to be a saying that when you left us the only way was down, just take a look at our past players who left did they achieve any more success NO if he is only leaving to play CL Footy then good riddance the Liver Bird will rise again. Let us try and get Kun as surely we have enough cash to spend with the yanks and the pittance we will get off judas's transfer, was it only 2 weeks ago hr pledged his future to the cause?

YNWAJFT96

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29 Jan 2011 00:23:31
Liverpool Rumours
Lads and ladys ther will be another torres just like ther was a rush fowler owen we just need to make sure we get 2 if he wants to leave then let him

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29 Jan 2011 00:23:30
Liverpool Rumours
Gutted with the transfer request. if he don't want to wear the shirt let him go. what leaves me mad is he hands it in with 3 days to go we can't replace him, suarez is a different player. why them?? ? . . ed whats your take on it?? ? i'm gutted. . . . . . . . .

{Editor's Note: I guess we are in a let's all stand back and figure where we are mode.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:22:54
Liverpool Rumours
Has Suarez actually signed yet? I'm worried because I thought he'd said that was dependent upon Torres still being at the club. .

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29 Jan 2011 00:22:47
Liverpool Rumours
Nesv show some ball 60m and not a penny less Ajax didn't give in to us

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29 Jan 2011 00:21:24
Liverpool Rumours
Unless this is media rubbish stirred up by Murdoch's organisation, can someone explain why Torres would hand in a transfer request?

{Editor's Note: I guess time has come for him - a new challenge.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:21:11
Liverpool Rumours
Ed I would be happy if ft went . Why keep a player against his will when we could get 50 nil for a under performing injury prone sulk . With that money we could get Honda turan and aguero if u include babel money. Team would be alot better imagine front 6 suarez aguero turan Honda gerrard raul m. What u think ed? ? No player is bigger than this club

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29 Jan 2011 00:20:09
Liverpool Rumours
I hope we let Torres go as soon as possible. If he doesn't want to play for us - let him go. I don't want anyone at our club who doesn't want to be there. Don't get me wrong I am devastated but he wants out. Hopefully his transfer request will set off alarm bells around Europe and maybe we can start a bidding war for once and get the best possible price for him. Would love to see aguero at anfield! ! Cheers fernando

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29 Jan 2011 00:20:01
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, if Liverpool have rejected a transfer request, will they carry on playing Torres if he doesn't want to play for us, or do you think it is another Tevez/ Rooney situation?

{Editor's Note: Nope.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:19:43
Liverpool Rumours
Ed what is going on here i think most fans are panicking can you clear up what has happened with fernando and do u know if its true or does he want to stay?

{Editor's Note: I guess we are in a let's all stand back and figure where we are mode.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:19:29
Liverpool Rumours
If we can label Michael Owen, 216 apps and 118 goals for LFC, as a traitor for going to Manure, then I have no problem christening Torres, 101 apps 65 goals, as something similar if he goes directly to Chelsea.

This leads me to the poll question:
Would you guys boo Nando in LFC vs Chelsea if he moves to Stamford Bridge?

Believable=Yes
Unbelievable=No

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29 Jan 2011 00:19:15
Liverpool Rumours
Goodbye Fernando thanks for the memories. . Luis you better hit the ground running lad !

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29 Jan 2011 00:18:36
Liverpool Rumours
Torres = traitor

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29 Jan 2011 00:17:58
Well guys what do I know, never actually thought he'd want to move. Somebody posted earlier on that this was a deja-vous from when Kenny was last our manager. Rush was sold to Juventus then went and bought Aldo, Barnsey and Beardsley, the team he then put out was probably one of the greatest ever to represent LFC.
So much for his love for LFC. Don't want him here anymore, but don't sell him until the summer until we have a replacement., and for nothing less than £45M. I am completely gutted. What's going on Ed.
Oh, by the way, spot on again Macca.

Sooty

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29 Jan 2011 00:16:25
Lets get rid lads/ ladies and start again. Would it be that big a loss?

He has had 3 or 4 good games this season.

We need players who would die to play for our club.

Lets all stick together till the summer where i am told the owners are willing to spend big.

Macca

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29 Jan 2011 00:16:21
Liverpool Rumours
Puzzled by the timing of nando's transfer request, just for the sheer fact why risk losing the repour he has with the fans? if he goes to chelsea his reputation is down the s****r. .just look what happened to mickey owen! thought the guy would be smarter than this.

wouldnt like to see any chelsea rejects included in the deal and would like to see a cheeky bid thrown in for lukaku. .by no means the finished article but think hes got all the attributes to be a cracking player.

would appreciate any input. great site eds keep it up!

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29 Jan 2011 00:15:22
Liverpool Rumours
Anyone else remember a few years ago. Gerrards head got turned by a move to Chelsea and he handed in a transfer request, but he changed his mind a couple of days later. He's still here even though the promises the club made to him probably were broken. I know it's slightly different with Torres but remember the gerrard situation, and it's very similar.

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29 Jan 2011 00:14:51
Liverpool Rumours
Ok fernando wants to go let him go, but to the highest bidder, don't want him here if he doesn't want to be here.
No one is bigger than lfc im just mad he chooses now to do it to us knowing full well it could even ruin the rest of our season and put us into a relegation battle again. Showing in my opinion no respect for the club or its supporters. There's nothing for him to gain by going to Chelsea in this transfer window. Only an outside chance of the Champions League final or more money. To leave now and not wait until the summer is just a total kick in the teeth. Nothing less.

Martin

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29 Jan 2011 00:14:48
Liverpool Rumours
F""" Torres f***ing let him leave it was Liverpool fc that made him who he is not the other way round Liverpool will be great again players come and go but LFC will always be Lfc

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29 Jan 2011 00:14:38
Liverpool Rumours
So he has handed in a transfer request fair enough, now its time to play hard ball, give them a price and let them know in no uncertain terms that any bid which doesn't meet the valuation isn't worth making. . what does everyone think the valuation should be 50 60 million? squeeze them for every scent i say put it towards a lorente and sanchez bid no harm in trying wouldn't be long forgetting about him if they were landed, money talks we just found that out. .

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29 Jan 2011 00:14:06
Ok boys let's put our cards on the table, Blair get your cards out, you too ed's and everyone else, I have read every site I usually read for gossip, Including all twitter accounts. From what I can gather every jurno is reporting Torres has phoned the club and asked to leave. This includes all times Liverpool fan and one guardian based one who is clearly pissed off with some abuse he has had. The officials of this site have pointed out that the times cannot be believed along with sky news and it's betting site. So what do we all believe. For me, and this pure guess work, I reconhe is going to stay, as lfc have said he has not for sale and I just don't get why he would want to join Chelsea, if they said barca, or Milan or even city then i would probably consider it but Chelsea are clearly way off it at mo and there squad seems old, and everyone seems to be turning them down or they get outbid by city.

So lads what's it to be staying or going?

Bob loblaw

What worries me is not so much the Chelsea bid but the rumours of his wanting to go. This will alert other clubs he may consider such as Barcelona, Inter/ AC and yes even City (Wages talk eventually). I can't see him joining Chelsea unless something weird like Rafa being their next manager.
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It depends on how NESV want to be percieved Bob. If they want to show us fans they will not be bullied by any player, then Torres will be here this time next week. But if you recall when NESV took over they said they won't be selling any of our top players. But they also said they don't want anyone who is unhappy at the club.

Hopefully NESV will dig their heels in and then sell him in the summer. Which gives us months and not days to line up replacements.

I'm with the Ed's i really don't get this one. I would understand it more and expect it, if it was the summer and he wanted to go. But now with 3 days remaining in the transfer window and little chance of finding a replacement, I just can't get my head round it?? ?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 00:14:06
Liverpool Rumours
Iam getting realy pissed off with all the player talk
please liverpool fans be with me on this one
we are liverpool fc the most succesful british football club FACT
if torres stayes or goes that's up to him and the club me and you can't do a thing about it just look at all the club has won in its history before he came we have won nothing since he arrived
he may have scored lots of goals so did rush fowler and owen
we will survive as a club he is not the end of the world we will come good again keep the faith one player does not not make a team we are lfc please die hard reds belive in nesv they have a proven record and we have the king in charge its going to be a hard long road but rember we never walk alone best regards all reds ross

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29 Jan 2011 00:13:35
Liverpool Rumours
If owners have any genuin believe getting us back to top, they have to get Torres to change his mind and convince him he isn't replaceable. As we let to believe they have the money, if this Is the case we will see, if we havnt got money they will sell, if we got the money they won't entertain the offer. The man is having a bad season all players go through them it's down to the club to put arm around them and show that they are part of a family and get them through the down times. Owners need to make a massive statement for there whole future at LFC., I don't care about Suarez deal. We need nando to help us get back to top. Plus if he has to go he certainly dosnt go to premier club! !

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29 Jan 2011 00:13:35
Liverpool Rumours
Its on lfc website liverpool have rejected it saying he has long contract and they expect him to honour it, to ed, if say chelski offered 50m and city came in with 60m whats happens can he choose chelski over city although they offered more money, or is it up to club, i would rather him go s**tty and have all the trouble and fighting they have there will teach him, torres will have to change his armband, you will walk alone,

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29 Jan 2011 00:12:40
Liverpool Rumours
It all seems like very strange timing to me. Liverpool get some good news with a fee being agreed for Suarez, then before we've had a chance to talk about it in the pub rumours start circulating about Torres.
Surely this is just anti-Liverpool scaremongering by lazy journalists.
If it is true we have been here before.
Keegan a hugely important player left and we replaced with Kenny Dalglish. Then Ian Rush the hottest goalscoring talent at the time departed to Juventus and King Kenny showed his managerial genius buying Aldridge, Barnes and Beardsley.
We will just have to wait and see, but it is not about who leaves the club, it is about who is brought in.

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29 Jan 2011 00:12:33
Liverpool Rumours
Deadline day deal- van wolfswinkel in, Torres out (45m), money in bank towards summer kitty

Redkev. YNWA

Van Wolfswinkel is injured badly he's out for the rest of the season

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29 Jan 2011 00:12:14
Liverpool Rumours
Torres wanted the owners to spend some money we go out and spend 23m and few days left on the transfer window he now want to leave cock lost all repect for the player , just hope we hold out for 60m but no time to spend it and we Are back to having 1 good striker GREAT

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29 Jan 2011 00:11:55
Couldn't get excited about the pending Suarez signing today with the Torres situation but I had a thought if things do work out for the best then we will get a double whammy of nando staying and Suarez arriving it will be like signing two world class strikers signing on the sameday, we will get the double the excitement we have all been cheated out of today. I don't want to even think of the feeling if nando turns his back on us.

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29 Jan 2011 00:11:48
Liverpool Rumours
Nevermind SSN it's on LFC official website. And once you hand in a request you know your gone, but it doesn't give us any time to get an adquate replacement for him. The nightmare continues I'm afraid.

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29 Jan 2011 00:11:43
Ha either a manc, or chelski scum, , the suarez deal was always gunna be met in the middle 20-22 mill, there was plenty of time left for liverpool to get ajax to lower and for ajax to get liverpool to up the bid, it went from liverpools initial bid of 12 mill and ajax's value of 30 mill, to 22 mill, the money was alwyas there just about getting best price for both teams as possible plus the money from babel helped get suarez too,
torres is a lfc fan and won't leave lfc in the lurch of no replacement, liverpool won't sell till atleast summer when we can get a replacement and even more cash than chelsea r offering, chelsea r just trying to unsettle us and torres. if chelsea offer 50 mill plus a couple of good players then were talking business, untill then they can keep sinking in the league

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A die hard red who's stood/ sat on the Kop since 1978 as a 7 year old boy, my first game seeing Birmingham City beat us 3-2 at anfield and David Johnson was sent off, so don't come that old chestnut youth. Torres is going, its as clear as day. Keep you stars and stripes tinted glasses on sunbeam, wake up tuesday morning and get real. These are business people from the good old US of A. It'll take a long time before they convince me that they genuinely have the best interests of LFC and its fans at the forefront of their priorities.

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29 Jan 2011 00:11:39
Torres has handed in a transfer request. It has been rejected.

Source; LFC website.

Shocked, saddened, confused.

HodgsonOut

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29 Jan 2011 00:11:19
Makes little sense to me why nando would submit a transfer request 3 days before transfer window ends and when things are looking good for LFC. Definitely something fishy with Chelsea's approach.

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29 Jan 2011 00:10:55
Liverpool Rumours
Fernando Torres has handed in written transfer request and its been rejected, source liverpoolfc.tv!

If he wants to go let him in my opinion but make sure we get as much cash as possible then rub chelskis noses in the ground and offer the majority of the fee if not all to replace torres with kun aguero, hes younger and would be the perfect replacement and partner up top for suarez, what do u think ed

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29 Jan 2011 00:10:48
Heres my take on whats happening, fernando is upset with everything wants to win things he hands in his request to liverpool which is now denied, he sits and meets with kenny and henry and voices his concerns about the lack of investement and lack of ambition that the club has in relation to his own personal ambitions and that will either herald him being sold or it will herald us signing another two or three top names in this window

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29 Jan 2011 00:10:43
Liverpool Rumours
Let Torres leave. tired of his sulking. no player is bigger than the club.

invest in players who want to play

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29 Jan 2011 00:09:56
Liverpool Rumours
The Guardian are reporting that Torres has a £50M release clause which only becomes active in the summer, if Liverpool don't qualify for the CL. If he goes, and it looks like he might, NESV will get the best possible deal for the club. I cannot believe they will rush through a deal on Chelski's terms just to get this settled quickly. If Chelski want him this month, they will have to make an offer Liverpool cannot refuse. I would suggest we are a long way from that at the moment.

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29 Jan 2011 00:09:46
Liverpool Rumours
Torres supposed to be a long life liverpool supporter my arse if he has handed in a request he is just like all the chelski players abyway a money grabbing t**t, let the lady boy go and good riddens to the toss pot

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29 Jan 2011 00:09:31
Liverpool Rumours
Sell Him if he wants to go he's only going to sulk!

who really cares he clearly isn't getting on with the players

what is worse he's doing it now with 2 days to go

let him go and break his leg

you all booed Lucas and Konc who at leat give 100%

Torres doesn't deserve to play for Liverpool and dosent deserve our support

two weeks ago said he wanted to stay now he's wants to go to chelsea! he is why we are avaerage

not commited!

and our new owner are the same as the last (thats another reason he wants out) to many broken promises over the last few years

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29 Jan 2011 00:09:20
Liverpool Rumours
Grow up, I gave an opinion on a man who took Murdoch's money, I am entitled to it whether you like it or not

Ed. How dare you, a person is entitled to grow up at their own physical rate and should not be verbally intimidated by the likes of you bullying. I hope you will withdraw those outrageous comments as they could be deemed offensive if the poster was a vertically challenged member of fantasyland.

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29 Jan 2011 00:09:07
Liverpool Rumours
If you look on the Liverpool official website it confirms that Fernando Torres has submitted in a transfer request and has been rejected.

(THIS IS NOT A RUMOUR AND IS FACT! !)

Liverpool Fan over 26 years and saw Torres playing v Fulham on Wednesday - GUTTED

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29 Jan 2011 00:08:53
Liverpool Rumours
Check the lfc official website its official torres wants to leave

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29 Jan 2011 00:08:23
Liverpool Rumours
Let the h***er go if he taught that much about liverpool he would not go to another prem club

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29 Jan 2011 00:08:13
Its time everybody went on over to liverpoolfc.tv and read the statement on torres' written transfer request, our dear boy from sunny spain is jumping ship, his armband proved he was a red, his transfer request proves he doe'nt really give a toss! Time to face up to the fact mr murdoch, ssn, talksport, and various newspapers have not lied, liverpool footbball proved this with there statement, lets just hope we can get back up, i do not want a player at our club who does'nt care and who has no interest, how do you get the best out of player who does'nt want to play for his team? Answer is you dont, a dark day for our club, nando has took surez' special day and ruined it for him! Lack of commiment is dire

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29 Jan 2011 00:07:36
Liverpool Rumours
What is the world coming too?

We will see shirts burnt tomorrow massive u turn then score a hatty on Sunday.

The boy wanted a signal of intent from the owners an he got Suarez.

No man is bigger than our club, If he no longer wants to wear the our famous red shirt then let him go and on his head be it.
Many have come many have gone and many have been forgotten!

I support Liverpool Football Club NOT Fernando Torres

5Times*****

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29 Jan 2011 00:07:32
Liverpool Rumours
Well well torres wants to go well go son no man bigger than the club we have a better history better fans better club than chelsea. i feel the man is chassing the money he has never had lfc in his heart or cares about the fans so he is a lying scum. if i was kenny i would put him the reserves for the rest of the season and keep him away from the first team lads at all costs. how can this man do this to the club and fans he said he loves wot a load od carp.

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29 Jan 2011 00:07:29
Liverpool Rumours
I say 45 mill let him go. He would be joinining an ageing team with a short bought history! Suso would be just as good if not more deadly and for a fraction of his wage. Great striker but a Fowler he isn't. Send him on with sulky attitude following!

Waspy

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29 Jan 2011 00:07:05
Liverpool Rumours
Oh. . Just want to ask why people on here are saying talkSPORT is anti Liverpool - What you on?
They have ex players such as Houghton & Collymore, plus supporters (scousers) Micky Quinn & Alvin Martin. Breakfast show in pro Utd, but that's it.
As for saying Tony Evans is not reliable for info, I'd believe what he says over half the tripe I read on here. Macca seems to be the only one with proper contacts.

Gav the RED

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29 Jan 2011 00:07:01
Liverpool Rumours
Reported on lfc.tv website that Nando did indeed hand in a transfer request but that the board have rejected it, seems like he may be going as this will give chelsea the incentive to go get him. I for one am very dissappointed in him especially as he committed himself only a few weeks ago, however if he wants to do a Michael Owen and leave then so be it the club went onto greater things when Owen left and I'm positive we will go onto greater things if Torres leaves, will be sad to see a potential legend for years to come become a hate figure like Owen as chelsea are almost as bad as man u in my eyes. Hope he does'nt go but once he handed in that transfer request he went way down in my estimation just like Gerrard did a few years ago when chelski came calling, if he stays he will need to do what gerrard did and put in one hell of a performance til the end of the season to win back the fans.

dublinred

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29 Jan 2011 00:06:55
Liverpool Rumours
Is there any point in keeping nando if he wants 2 go? sure the £ would get us upcoming stars. suares 4 starters. i know he's awesome, but there's always betta round the corner. if torres goes 2 chels at least if they win the title manure won't have overtaken us. whichich is surely the main thing in the bigger picture?

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29 Jan 2011 00:06:49
Liverpool Rumours
Fact -: Torres has handed in written transfer request.

KK Was the reds manager when we sold rush to juventus. we bought Houghton Aldo Beardsley Barnes. It was the best Reds side I have seen.

LET TORRES GO. (If he wants to) No one is bigger than this club)

With the 50 million(Chelsea cough up or shut up) by Ken, (Beardsley) Suarez(Aldo) Young (Barnes) Adam (Houghton) Result. Dont panick we are LIVERPOOL
KK is shrewd.

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29 Jan 2011 00:06:44
28 Jan 2011 23:38:49
Liverpool Rumours
Ed why lfc website saying that torres did hand in transfer request tonight which they rejected

{Editor Note: Take a guess.}

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Where does it say that on the sight as I can not find where it says Torres handed in a transfer request it only says we rejected an offer of 35mill.

Also if we did sell Torres what would the odds be on us landing Aquero? ?


{Editor's Note: Not good.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:06:23
Liverpool Rumours
Fine, if Torres wants to go then sell him!
Dont get me wrong, I love Torres. But if does not want to play for us then he does not deserve to play for us!
Sell him for £55million + add ons.
Buy Eden Hazard, Arda Turan and Sergio Aguero!

Im fumin!

What do you think about this Ed?

{Editor's Note: You probably don't want to know my opinion on this..}

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29 Jan 2011 00:06:22
Liverpool Rumours
It is now on the official site that Torres submitted a transfer request!

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29 Jan 2011 00:06:18
Liverpool Rumours
Sell torres or £35million + Sturridge.

try and snap up karim benzema.

arda, adam and contreao cud be on there way now.

what do you think ed?

Coxy.

{Editor's Note: Ride it out man.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:05:57
Liverpool Rumours
Seems Torres is off. If he doesn't want to wear the famous red shirt take the money and get rid. I love him as a player but i don't like unloyal players.

I would prefer him go go abroad as i hate the thought of the reds playing against him.

Suarez was a replacement not a partner. We will be back to square 1 when Torres leave with 1 class striker.

StueyLFC

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29 Jan 2011 00:05:39
Ed please submit this. Seriously this can't be true. Even the loyal players have no longer got any loyalty. Refuse to sell him and then offer him to Barca in the summer. Even if we lose 5-10 million on him, but do not sell to your rivals. . . . . . .

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29 Jan 2011 00:05:23
Liverpool Rumours
Ed im am relly panicin why is torres doin this we bought suarez is he doin a rooney or is he tryin to force the owners hand to buy a few more world class players or is he juss leavin fr chelsea n why ecspecially wen he wanted us to buy n we've bought we can't let him not this in the transfer window howeva if he was to go we cud get aguero surely we cnt hav him sulkin in the changin room any of the ed's plzz colaborate on the above i feel like lfc are bein kiked in the teeth it's like we got enemies left ryt n centre

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29 Jan 2011 00:05:22
Liverpool Rumours
Ed do you believe suarez deal won't happen now, due to what he said about torres? its obv torres will be gone by monday, i just wish it werent to english club i could handle barce taking him no1 specially half hearted is bigger then us ynwa terry

{Editor's Note: Ride it out man.}

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29 Jan 2011 00:05:13
Torres transfer request rejected, this is the beggining of the end at lfc for torres, 60m no less or make him stay! not happy he is going back on his word?

redinthehead.

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29 Jan 2011 00:05:11
Liverpool Rumours
For ed's notes

Is this becoming part of a trend for high profile names to throw their toys out of the pram to get attention and more moneyof coarse again. ie rooney with united fans and tevez with city. everyone thought they were both gone not so long ago and its all rosy now. It must be these agents messing with their heads.
Could it be possible we get the same result with nando?

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29 Jan 2011 00:05:10
Liverpool Rumours
ha ha liverpool reject torres transfer request
Now id love to no who told sky that info
Any idea ed eds macca

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29 Jan 2011 00:05:08
Didn't this happen 5 or 6 years ago, but with gerrard to Chelsea? And where is Gerrard now? I can see a repeat of what happened then, with fans protesting. Not a good thing to do in my opinion but maybe it'll show where torres heart is after it. Doubt we will accept this transfer anyway, no time left for it to be completed. RedAsh

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29 Jan 2011 00:04:03
Liverpool Rumours
Right lets get a few things straight FSG should tell chelsea give us 80m you can have him now or 60m in the summer the reason for this is because not only is torres a prolific goal scorer he also sells the most merchandise out of any player in the premier league.

As for that idiot stating 2 weeks ago "i am fully commited to seeing out my contract and fully commited to turning this season around"

So much for being loyal just get rid of him now and save the cash and in the summer splash it on 2 out and out wingers a decent partner for suarez and maybe fabio coentrao for left back.

I'll laugh so hard if nando leaves and chelsea don't get top four. BACKSTABBER is all i can say.

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29 Jan 2011 00:03:51
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool FC have confirmed that Fernando Torres has on Friday evening submitted a transfer request. The request has been rejected.

The Club said in a statement: "Fernando Torres tonight submitted a written transfer request, which has been rejected by Liverpool.

"Fernando is under a long-term contract and the Club expects him to honour the commitment he made to Liverpool FC and its supporters when he signed the agreement."

- - - - - - - - - - -

Taken from the official site, I'm devastated by this news, just as it seems we're on the up.

Fernando has preached his loyalty to Liverpool, it's fans and has bemoaned the lack of signings in the last few transfer windows. The club is finally pulling together, we've secured a world class signing tonight and with the King back all our hopes have been raised.

His timing stinks and as great as he has been for us, do one Fernando. I just prey that we get the £50 million or more that we should.

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29 Jan 2011 00:03:47
Liverpool Rumours
I SAY LET HIM LEAVE. He can't come out and then betray us. Take the 50mil, buy Honda and another world class striker. YNWA

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29 Jan 2011 00:03:31
If torres wants to leave he should go. . theres no point having an unhappy striker. . i want him to stay but if hes unhapp let him go and strenghten the rest of the squad

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29 Jan 2011 00:03:29
Liverpool Rumours
I think torres will go hope not but if he does we should get £50m or no deal and go and try for Augero for £45m and spend rest on adam (keith the red)

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29 Jan 2011 00:02:16
Sell torres £50million he wants to go lets get a good price an try go an get kun not ken aguero an hulk from porto an terrorise every defence in the prem suerez kun hulk upfront while fernando we took you into our club made you a better player an this is how you wana repay the liverpool fans well i hope you go to chelski an you realise liverpool was the club for you but then it will be to late coz just like owen the fans will hate you an then i hope you realise it was a big mistake the grass will not be greener on the other side mark my words am burning my liverpool shirt as soon as you leave a sad sad day but we will walk on an as always we will rise an we will have players who wana fight for the club an its fans you are fernando torres but we are liverpool football club the most decorated club in england an we will carry on with our legacy to be the best while in 5yrs you, ll be finished an look back an think chelski was a manufactured club while liverpool was a real club with real fans. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . liverpool 27

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29 Jan 2011 00:01:38
Think we should tell Chelsea to get lost & sell him in the summer.
It'd be an auction with much better offers.
Kenny for god's sake hold firm on this!
So much for "in house" details.
That didn't last long!
Kev

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29 Jan 2011 00:00:03
Ed, im off to bed ive posted about four times tonight and you binnned me off. anyway one parting shot before i go to the land of nod and funny enough it aint about torres, everton are skint and we need a left back, leighton baines anyone. redello

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28 Jan 2011 23:59:22
He isn't an a**hole he is a proffesional footballer! he is NOT gerrard! he is NOT carra and he is NOT SCOUSE!
I was expecting this ever since we came 7th !
He hasn't won ANYTHING as a pro with liverpool?!
Good luck at chelsea ( prick )
I just hope he realises chelsea was the wrong club so very very wrong.

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28 Jan 2011 23:59:21
Suarez in & Torres (probably) on the way out. One step forward, two steps back. If he is to go, which I hope he doesn't, then it will only be acceptable if NESV go for someone of Hulk's or Aguero's class. Anything else and they've ended up weakening the team instead of strengthening it.

-IamTheCosmos

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28 Jan 2011 23:58:55
Liverpool Rumours
Football is broken! When a player like Nando wants to leave a club like liverpool what is left of the dignity and loyalty to the fans and the people who pay him? We have made him world class (Yes he already had the potential). I don't understand how players today will not stick with a team because of a couple of bad seasons or a transitional period. And remember when a player leaves Anfield he is only stepping downwards! !Who the F**K are Chelsea, no history and the ones who supported them in the last few years now supports the next gravy train that is Man City .I will be gutted if he goes and if he does. .then i wash my hands with the corrupt money glory grabbing beast that has become football.

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28 Jan 2011 23:57:54
Listen guys he's leaving let's face it! There are too many factors sayng that he is! Lets look forwards - we will prob get approx £50mil from this lets invest and move on - when he's injured we still play well and we still have good players. If he wants to move good riddance!

If NESV let Torres leave then the s*it H&G got would be nothing to the trouble that would be aimed at them. What's the saying, "Two steps forward three steps back".

Sooty

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28 Jan 2011 23:57:12
Liverpool Rumours
Torres hands in a transfer request, it's official! I say we take the money and let him be, no loyalty and broken promises! Rather have players who fight for the shirt when their needed the most. He hasn't produced this season and no matter who the manager is u play with heart for the fans and the shirt. Personally believe we don't need 2 or 3 world class players but 5 or 6 very good players, get the money and invest in summer. The season won't get any worse with or without Torres! Altho not a rumour Ed pls post on the rumours page, ps great site! {ed's note - wouldn't you put him in the reserves and let him rot to teach him a lesson then?}

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28 Jan 2011 23:56:45
Liverpool Rumours
Official site saying Torres has handed in transfer request which has been rejected.

When a player wants to go . . . . .

Looks like his recent comments about staying were all hot air. So much for him being happier playing under Kenny

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28 Jan 2011 23:56:34
Liverpool Rumours
Wouldn't it be nice if NESV stuck to their guns and continued to block Torres from moving this window? We defo know now he wants to go, but he could've waited untill the summer. So NESV keep doing what you are doing and let him rot in the reserves if need be. Don't let any player walk over you, or you will end up with a club like Man.City.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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28 Jan 2011 23:56:05
Liverpool Rumours
I was with some of the ed's and was indifferent to the Suarez signing especially at the prices that was being banded around. But he's ours and I'll back to the hilt (may even get the shirt! )

I now feel we need to forget Adam. A LW or a LB whilst getting rid of a bit more baggage and I for one would be a very happy camper.

LW Turan/ Honda

Pepe

Kelly Wilson Agger Johnson

Lucas

Raul M Stevie G

Saurez Turan/ Honda

Torres

or a world class attacking LB

Pepe

Kelly Wilson Agger ? ?? ?

Lucas

Raul M Stevie G

Johnson Saurez

Torres

Then use the kids off the bench.
Any thoughts anybody.

redsoldier

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28 Jan 2011 23:53:10
Weres all the people now saying nando loves us he will honour his contract ssn and belague are full of s**te can't believe he has handed in a transfer request and left us in the lurch Suarez could well change his mind now if Torres goes but what's the point in keeping him he won't perform and start sulking

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28 Jan 2011 23:52:59
Liverpool Rumours
I actually hope Torres goes now. He has been like a brat for months now. He is too egotistical. Hopefully Kenny will bring Arda Turan, Diego Forlan and a decent Left back.

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28 Jan 2011 23:52:55
Liverpool Rumours
If torres wants to go and we can get up to 50 mil on him then i would let him go, we could easily get another quality striker in with that money to partner suarez, aswell as strengthening other parts of the team, eg wingers

your thoughts ed {ed's note - personally I would refuse to let him go, just to prove a point.}

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28 Jan 2011 23:52:44
Liverpool Rumours
Stop winging you lot. I love Torres, but I love our club more & if we have a player who doesn't want commit future to LFC then let him go. £40m + Sturridge for a world class striker who is very injury prone. . . yes please!
Timing is the worst thing here, but with £40 on top of our transfer budget we can really strengthen the team. Take one step back to go two steps forward. YNWA

Gav the RED

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28 Jan 2011 23:52:29
Liverpool Rumours
Fernando torres has transfer request rejected. If we keep him now I expect to see the torres from the beginning of the season where he looked like he didn't wanna be at anfield. What do uz think? I personally think it's to late in the transfer window to find a replacement now and we should atleast hold onto him until the summer when the major investment can be made

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28 Jan 2011 23:51:46
Liverpool Rumours
Hands in a transfer request? doesn't deserve the wear the liverpool jersey anymore!

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28 Jan 2011 23:50:58
Liverpool Rumours
I'm going to stick my neck out on the line and say I think we should sell Torres, that's if he wants to leave of course. He is not bigger than the club and never will be, however should the inevitable happen I think we should go for Llorente I understand this could be a summer move due to the little time left in the window. People who say that he is going to Madrid this is no guarantee, also he is a basque (like Alonso) this could prove a positive for us.

What are your thoughts ed an lfc fans?

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28 Jan 2011 23:50:53
The really sad thing is, Torres could of been a legend. Not any more. Washed my hands of him.

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28 Jan 2011 23:50:40
Liverpool Rumours
Looks like Suarez will be new number 9 then. Im so disappointed in Nando. Someone posted earlier he has been downbeat recently, why is that?

Abrahmovic and his 'friends' probably have some sort of threat in place.

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28 Jan 2011 23:50:28
Liverpool Rumours
This Torres thing really seems to have legs i'm afraid, its all over the net that he has handed in a transfer request. Would be a loss for sure in the short term but if we can get 40 million plus players, maybe it could all work out well.
Personally i believe that he is the best finisher in europe but i think his general play is not as good as drogbas or Rooneys(on form).
His attitude has also been questionable and surely we can leave player power for the likes of manure and chelskie to have to deal with.
Our problem in recent years is that we keep relying on the likes of him and gerrard.
If he wants out lets get good money for him ad let him go

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28 Jan 2011 23:49:50
Liverpool Rumours
Lfc reject toress transfer request! why does he even want to go after we signed a strike partner for him

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28 Jan 2011 23:48:56
Why does this t**t Tony Evans come out with so much s*ite, Is it because he always wants to be the centre of attention. I wouldn't mind but the t**t is always wrong. "Liverpool haven't got a buyer", "Gerrard is going to R Madrid". What a pr*ck. Also people stop asking Nando to commit to the club, he did do less than a week ago.

Sooty

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28 Jan 2011 23:48:21
Liverpool Rumours
This torres s**t is pissing me of sell him if he wants to go but then replace him with benzema who quite frankly is playing much better at the moment. so if we get say 50 mil for torres add about 30 to that giving us 80 mil and try in buy aguaro and benzema. so upfront will be

suarez benzema aguaro

much better than suarez torres

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28 Jan 2011 23:48:05
Liverpool Rumours
Why is everyone worrying about torres leaving, yes he handed in a transfer request which the club have rejected, Steven Gerrard went through a similar thing with chelsea a few years ago, yet he stayed although he is through and through scouse, torres is also a fan of the club and i believe it is torres' agent trying to force things through so that the agent can get more money!

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28 Jan 2011 23:48:02
His armband proved he was a red Suarez, Suarez! You'll never walk alone it said Suarez, Suarez! He bought the band off a lad from Spain, Blonde hair, forgotten the name! Luis Suarez Liverpool's new number 9!

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28 Jan 2011 23:47:59
Liverpool Rumours
I AM A LIVERPOOL FAN IF HE WANTS 2 *UCK OFF LET HIM THE SMACKED A** T*AT GET £45 MILLION I WILL BE HAPPY HE IS NOT OUR BEST PLAYER ANYWAY! ! !

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28 Jan 2011 23:47:43
Liverpool Rumours
Not really a Rumour just a thought. Liverpool fans shouting take the £40 million and buy Aguero? The reason Aguero would join Liverpool is to play with Torres so he would not come. I think Torres has been very disrespectful to Liverpool if the transfer request rumour is true. If he goes i think it would be too late for Liverpool to buy BIG named players with the money we receive. Id like to see him stay even if it was untill the end of the season, the Torres Suarez partnership was begining to excite me. - Ed how do you think this one will end and if we do see Torres leave who do you think his replacement would be? Thanks

Kopite17. {ed's note - Aguero is a Liverpool fan, I am sure he wouldn't join us purely to play alongside Torres.}

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28 Jan 2011 23:47:43
Dear me. its on the official sitep torres has handed in a transfer request, it is now very real, torres is a very powerful player, one of the best in the world, and chelsea are going to turn up on kk desk with about 50 million pounds, money and player power talk louder than anything, find another striker quick, sell him and get a new striker in to play along side suarez, deverstating news

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28 Jan 2011 23:47:26
Liverpool Rumours
Official websit say Torres has handed in a transfer request
absolute shock. What has happened in the last week or so
Clubfirst.com

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28 Jan 2011 23:47:11
Liverpool Rumours
SSN have just stated that the reds have turned down a transfer request from Torres, if this is true we need to get rid. . where is the loyalty gone? he owes us, why does he think Chelski is a better option?? he needs to come out and tell the fans and stop hiding. . what are your thoughts on this Ed? is this just another made up Publicity stunt from Sky after a torrid week? just like the Rooney and Tevez saga?? ?? ?? ?? ? ?

Redthroughandthrough {ed's note - it was Liverpool that announced it, so it is definitely not a Sky stunt.}

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28 Jan 2011 23:46:11
Liverpool Rumours
Well this is just perfect :-/ . were in a rebuilding stage, (not to far off if you ask me) and just bagged a new forward that should make a huge difference for us and then all this comes out about Torres!

if he wants to go. we should let him.

Drezperado

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28 Jan 2011 23:45:59
Liverpool Rumours
OFFICIAL ON BBC: Fernando Torres has submitted a transfer request!

Well, im gutted. But lets get rid of a player who doesn't want to play for us double quick and replace him. £45m, no less.

We lost Rushie and KK replaced him with Beardsley, Barnes and Aldo.

We lose Torres, and KK will replace him with Suarez, Honda and Young

Lets not lower ourselves into calling him a judas and burning shirts. Imagine if we had done that when Rushie left.

Long live LFC. YNWA

RG

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28 Jan 2011 23:45:29
Liverpool Rumours
Torres has handed in a trasfer request but liverpool have rejected.he wants out clearly so lets screw chelsea for every penny . sign turan , adam and honda. redello

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28 Jan 2011 23:44:57
Liverpool Rumours
The worst fears are here guys,

its on the official lfc site, that torres submitted a transfer request tonight,

it has been rejected, though even at that, he clearly wants out.

do we keep an unhappy player, why does he want out, do we now rank him with the michael owens?

Phil - Belfast

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28 Jan 2011 23:44:40
Torres doesn't want to leave he is really enjoying workin under kk

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28 Jan 2011 23:44:12
Liverpool Rumours
So, Torres has handed a transfer request in and Liverpool have refused to accept it. If he wants to go and Chelsea want him, £50m at least. I remember when Rushie went and in came Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge and on we went. Man City will drive the price up as well. One man will never be bigger than the club.
lifelong red

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28 Jan 2011 23:43:57
Jeus fernando the dirty raat handed in a written tranfser request which was denied by lfc, the f***ing rat, the dirty f***ing rat, the dirty dirty spanish rat

source lfctv

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28 Jan 2011 23:42:29
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool have rejected a transfer request from Torres. Source LFCtv

Thing now is if he stays what will everyone think of him. He obv doesn't want to be there and probably will leave in the summer!

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28 Jan 2011 23:42:29
Liverpool Rumours
Transfer request by torres rejected by liverpool. . . . . . he obviously wants to go that can't be argued now and i can't blame him, for far too long the weight of this club to perform has been rested on his and gerrards shoulders and he's never seen a reward for this. . . . if/ when he does move i wish him the best and thank him from the bottom of my heart for lighting up tv for the past few seasons in the red shirt

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28 Jan 2011 23:41:42
Liverpool Rumours
Piss off Nando!

Gutted!

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28 Jan 2011 23:41:32
Liverpool Rumours
Luis Suarez to not agree personal terms with Liverpool FC after he wanted to join mainly because of spanish infulences and to play with star striker Fernando Torres. Well were screwed! :(

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28 Jan 2011 23:41:24
Liverpool Rumours
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28 Jan 2011 23:18:49
Liverpool Rumours
Looks like Fernando will be leaving in the next few days then. Every paper has got the headline that he wants to leave and most journalists on twitter also have it down as him leaving. I would be absolutely devastated to lose nando but i am coming to terms with the fact that he will in all probability, be running out in a blue shirt against us next sunday.

A very upset reds fan.

wont be happening

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28 Jan 2011 23:41:24
So a full day later and still none of these "sources" have been confirmed. I hope we're all taking note of which papers and news stations are actively working against our club. The one good thing about this is that hopefully when it turns out this is bullcarp people will have noticed the blatant anti liverpool sentiment in the media.
If this whole torres thing is wrong then the media will be blatantly exposed as biased.
I can't see how anyone could deny it.

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28 Jan 2011 23:41:11
Liverpool Rumours
Fernando Torres isn't going anywhere. This is just the media (and in this case, seems to always be SSN) hyping up something that could or won't happen. Look at Beckham and that he was going to Tottenham. That didn't happen and SSN kept saying that it was essentially a done deal. If El Nino knows better, he knows that he's been playing better these last few weeks since The King has returned than any of the time what Roy was in. Stevie G has even said that everyone is enjoying practices now that the lads are smiling and having a lot more fun.

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28 Jan 2011 23:41:05
Liverpool Rumours
F**K off torres! No one is bigger than our club, see contracts out do you?? That's utter s***e, torres has been a moody t**t for the last 12 months. .take the money Liverpool.

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28 Jan 2011 23:40:53
Liverpool Rumours
The cheeky twit wants to go now kick him out on his arse. Chelsea of all clubs makes me sick so much for honering is contract what a traitor we couldnt even replace him with 3 days left hang him please put this up

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28 Jan 2011 23:40:30
It's official - Torres has requested a transfer - and the club have rejected it! Not looking good folks. This is off of the official site. Justv hope we can keep strong and KK can talk him round.

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28 Jan 2011 23:40:24
Liverpool Rumours
Are we forgetting that we are Liverpool Football Club!
When Kevin Keegan left we managed just fine by getting The King. Over the years we've had and lost great players and still came out on top.
Remember what happened the season we lost Owen?
We lost Rush, Fowler, Owen, Barnes, Mcmanaman etc and still been the great Liverpool FC!
I hope Torres stays, but if he does go (which I believe is not going to happen), then we move on and our great Kopites will roar the redmen to victory!
As for transfers, the only player I see coming in is Adam in this window.
Keep the faith, YNWA.
Redman Lee

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28 Jan 2011 23:39:53
Liverpool Rumours
Will you liverpool fans just accept it torres wants to leave just because you agree to sign luis suarez aint gonna change his mind and you fans who think he loves liverpool and its in his blood are delusional 1 signing doesn't make a great team and he knows that he wasted enough time with you now he wants trophy's

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28 Jan 2011 23:39:17
Liverpool Rumours
Okay people, it's not debate anymore it;s confirmed as of 23:00 tonight. - Torres has handed in a formal written request to leave Liverpool.

Sod it then, let him go.

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28 Jan 2011 23:39:11
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool have just rejected a transfer request from fernando torres. If the offer 40 million I'd take it and by a quality striker, winger and charlie Adam what do u think ed {ed's note - Llorente or Aguero to replace him for me.}

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28 Jan 2011 23:38:56
I didn't believe it but the liverpool website has confirmed torres has handed in a transfer request. I thought he was happier under kk and looks to be coming back to form. If he wanted to go barcelona i could understand but chelsea, i just don't get it

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28 Jan 2011 23:38:53
Liverpool Rumours
Its confirmed on lfctv. He has adked for a transfer n its been rejected!
Wtf? Why would he do that?
Totally gutted
ItsNotRocketScience

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28 Jan 2011 23:38:49
Liverpool Rumours
Ed why lfc website saying that torres did hand in transfer request tonight which they rejected

{Editor Note: Take a guess.}

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28 Jan 2011 23:37:54
Liverpool Rumours
Just three players needed now
sahko, m vila, and mata

reina
kelly sahko agger johnson
gerrard m vila meireless
suarez torres mata

thats a f***ing awesome lineup

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28 Jan 2011 23:35:34
Liverpool Rumours
"Liverpool Rumours Ed, you're dead wrong about Tony Barrett. He's a die-hard Red from Liverpool, a socialist and absolutely would have no reason to make any of this up. Wish I was wrong by the way but. . {ed's note - I know exactly who he is, but he sold his soul to Murdoch and is not in the slightest trustworthy. Socialism has obviously gone out of his window when Murdoch waved a pay cheque in his face.}"


A socialist that works for Murdoch. Some socialist of conviction that is.

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28 Jan 2011 23:29:32
Liverpool Rumours
Obviously a lot of press saying Torres will leave which I don't think will happen. More of a ploy to get John Henry to cough up the cash and sign the players they are after. To add to that, when Torres joined we didn't see him as half the player he became. Suarez has a good rep and goals per game ratio, what's to say he can't eclipse what Torres has done? Torres and Suarez (((Storrez. . heard it here first! ))) would be amazing, but if Torres were to leave we surely have signed somebody capable of knocking in a few and worth giving a bit of hype rather than a mass-debate on whether the Torres leaving gossip is true? LiverDan

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28 Jan 2011 23:28:29
Liverpool Rumours
As much as I like Torres and would love to see him and Suarez up front together, Torres has been mediocre this season and has shown a temperamental immature side to his personality.

Torres is not Liverpool Fc, and what would probably be 40-50 million would go along way to rebuilding the midfield, which in my opinion is desperately needed, (Remember when our midfield was Gerrard, Mascherano, Alonso and Benayoun).

I would be more upset if it were Gerrard that was leaving.

I would be upset if he went to Chelsea and would lose alot of respect for him (given all his I love Liverpool Fc talk when he joined) but it could be the best thing to happen?

Agree - Bel / Disagree - Unbel

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28 Jan 2011 23:28:05
Liverpool Rumours
Ok ppl the suarez deal was always gunna meet half way, there value was 30-35 mill, liverpools initial bid 12.75mill was never gunna be accepted liverpool knew it, its just part of negotiations when u want the best price u don't start ur bid close to their value, liverpool always knew it would probably take 20-22 mill for him. the suarez deal wasnt jus because the chelsea bid it was because they had till saturday and as its friday they make the bid needed to get him simple as that nothing to do with the chelsea bid

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