Liverpool Banter Archive December 29 2017

29 Dec 2017 23:58:25
First time poster, long time reader.
In my profession I see a lot of people try to do things that they're not capable of doing and it always ends in a mess. When I see a problem I can't solve I immediately call or find someone that is an expert in that area. I don't see that as a failure on my behalf, I see it as success in problem solving. I think Klopp should adopt the same mind set with our defense. I think he's a good manager but has his faults. If only he could recognise those faults I. e. the defense, he could be one of the great managers.

30 Dec 2017 00:15:26
In a prediction to any response about any money spent on VVD, throwing money at a problem doesn't always solve a problem. Throwing money at a problem is usually the end of a project to make it successful. Success At this stage is usually dependant on luck. I hope we're lucky with VVD, or Klopp eventually recognises his weaknesses.

30 Dec 2017 01:52:18
Luck is important but there's a formula to increase it if anyone wants to
Preparation + Opportunities = Luck.

30 Dec 2017 02:33:20
VVD has to improve our defense! He has no excuses! £75 mill is not any ordinary sum however you see it. You only spend that sum on any player who could change the entire course of your team / defeciences!

30 Dec 2017 02:59:35
'Throwing money at a problem is usually the end of a project to make it successful' Throwing money at it could also be looked at as an investment mate, it can go both ways. For all we know VVD will be a flop, I highly doubt that but we never know, with today's market it was always going to be an expensive transfer and it was the first highest for a defender but it certainly won't be the last a few years from now X defender will probably be double that, like any player who joins a club to improve it, it'll either go the clubs way or it won't, that's the chances clubs take. Our defence is a problem, even with VVD added, but its stepping up, it's improving by adding him, surely? so to me, it was wise to splash the cash on him. I hope.

As for Klopp, I agree, he does have faults but so does every manager. His biggest fault is playing Mignolet every game, not the defence, he's addressing that, that's pretty evident. He / the club have just spent 75 Mil on VVD, if that's not trying to sort out the defence then I don't know what is. Saying he isn't addressing it is false.

30 Dec 2017 03:21:03
But of a self-fulfilling prophecy to say "I hope we're lucky with vvd" sounds like klopp won't win with you.

30 Dec 2017 04:55:21
Talking about VVD flopping even before he pulls on a red jersey. How optimistic!

30 Dec 2017 06:35:17
Harry, VVD did not choose his price tag, Klopp and the club did. So the person who has no excuses now that he has his man is Klopp. VVD will need time to bed in and people like u need to get off his back.

30 Dec 2017 08:15:01
As the Eds and numerous posters have said forget about the money paid for players.
I'm sure VVD price will soon be beaten and maybe by a keeper (and not by us 😁) .

30 Dec 2017 09:00:37
IB is right Vvd didn't put the price on the table Southampton an lfc did an to be honest we caused that ourselves. Get behind the bloke an back him instead of all sticking the knife in, bloody hell you'd think this money was coming out your own pockets.

30 Dec 2017 09:07:52
Jim I’ll give you a name that totally negates your argument Alex Ferguson. I’ve grown up watching football since the early 80’s so have seen the rise and fall of both Liverpool and United.

He was not able to win a League title until the 92/ 93 season, he joined in 86. The club floated on the stock market in 91 enabling Ferguson to invest even more heavily in the team and to expand Old Trafford.

I’ll give you an example, they broke the British transfer record in 89 in buying Gary Pallister for a cool £2.3m a huge amount for the time .

So you see, this coupled with the money from the Premier League was the main reason he was able to knock “Liverpool off their Perch”.

30 Dec 2017 09:50:18
Last June targets were salah vvd ok and Keita we all said no chance of landing all 4 ox turned down staying with arsenal or Chelsea Keita had loads of offers vvd last summer city they all came to us it took us a while but well done to klopp and he s board I having said this for a long time but that is brilliant transfer business.

30 Dec 2017 09:52:13
The price is purely down to market forces, supply vs demand.
We know Man City want a defender, they nearly bought Jonny Evans in the summer.
We know Man City have much more money than we do.
We know there are not a lot of tall central defenders who have pace and strength, good ball skills and experience of playing in the premier league and who are eligible for this seasons champions league.
Therefore, if you want this rare player who is wanted by one of the recently successful and cash rich rivals, you have to pay a high price.
The price doesn’t concern me one iota.

30 Dec 2017 10:20:52
United broke the transfer record in 1981 for Bryan Robson. United always backed the Manager. Continuity change the tide from Liverpool to United.
Liverpool lost influencial people like Paisley Tom Saunders, Twentymen, the Chairman Smith. players like Hansen Dalglish. We threw money at trying to get back to the top. United kept faith with Fergie and backed him. Fergie retiring and a lot of his backstaff leaving, players getting old went the same way. To build a successful team with longevity requires continuity as well as good players and money.

30 Dec 2017 11:02:41
I don’t think Harry is necessarily saying it is up to VVD to improve the defence by himself, I think he is saying that if Klopp/ LFC think he is worth £75mil then the expectation is that the addition of VVD will be the quick fix we need to improve the defence and remove the deficiencies.

How anyone can dislike a comment which states that spending that amount should fix a problem is beyond me.
If a £75 million pound player does not fix any deficiencies then someone, somewhere in the club should be sacked/ shot for wasting a massive sum of money for no good reason.

30 Dec 2017 11:03:21
are defensive record is not bad this year it has been 5 bad games Watford man city spurs arsenal Seville, apart from the city game when we was playing good till mane got sent of all the other games have been individual errors how can you blame that on klopp.

31 Dec 2017 01:07:51
Forget the price. only an idiot woild be critical of klopp and co if they deem a "quick fix" hasn't been achieved. Klopp is bringing him in long term, not to appease knee jerk fans.

29 Dec 2017 10:58:05
Maybe Ed025, but Klopp's judgement on defenders and goalkeepers is pretty bad imo. He kept an average joe like Weidenfeller as his first choice custodian at BVB for his entire tenure and MIgs is the gift that keeps on giving during Klopp's regime at LFC. Could not hurt to let someone else deal with the GK situation.

{Ed025's Note - i have said the same all all along IB, klopp needs help when it comes to defensive issues mate, he is a very stubborn guy though and i cant see him addressing the issue anytime soon mate..

29 Dec 2017 22:37:14
He eventually replaced him with Burki whos not much better imo.

29 Dec 2017 23:19:35
I love Klopp but he needs to start giving a damn what fans want, we can all see Migs is useless and shouldn't be starting, he indeed is been too stubborn and needs to get a grip with it, his decision to play Migs has cost us a lot of points this season. Who knows, the club shocked us by signing VVD, they may shock us by signing another GK in January but personally I'd prefer seeing Karius given a chance until the summer.

29 Dec 2017 23:49:36
You can’t ice in to fan demands, that’s foolish. 1) just look st this site, the opinions vary so much! How could Klopp sell Henderson and at the same time give him a pay rise for being amazing? 2) he’s the one in the know not us, quite frankly fan power would ruin the team and all the hard work put in.

30 Dec 2017 00:39:26
johnbarnesleftpeg - I agree it is foolish to ice in to fans demands BUT, he did with Karius did he not? fans destroyed Karius because of a few mistakes after, let's note, him having a broken hand and he got dropped because of the pressure - so what's his excuse with Mignolet? Yes he is the one in the know, but anybody with a brain can see Mignolet isn't the man to be in goal for us apart from Klopp.

I will say again, I love Klopp and stand by him the majority of the time but the way he is so stubborn with playing Mignolet is wrong.

Yes the site has many opinions but I think regarding Hendo, people who actually watch him play and know football well, know he's a good player and respect him, he's not getting the grief Mignolet is.

Fan power would ruin the team I agree, but Klopps Stubbornness is costing us and it needs to stop, it needed to stop a couple of years ago yet we're still here, you can back him up with this situation all you want, the majority of fans knows Migs shouldn't be in goal and it's a huge mistake by Klopp having him there.

Overall I'm chuft with how we have performed this season, but we'd of been better off without Migs in goal, that's reality.

30 Dec 2017 04:23:15
SALAH

You want Klopp to listen the fans? Oh boy He did and why we have a problem called Mignolet. Had he stuck with Karius and not listend the fans we would be fighting for the second spot and not scrapping for the 4th. The only mistake Klopp did was to drop Karius when he would have stuck with him in his need!

30 Dec 2017 06:38:26
And Weidenfeller's replacement Burki is even worse. No better than Migs. Klopp is the last person to be trusted on GK issues.

30 Dec 2017 06:46:50
Harry, it wasn't the fans, it was ridiculous media criticism from idiots like Gary Neville that led to Klopp dropping Karius. It was the wrong decision either way, so I agree there.

30 Dec 2017 07:36:42
When Karius got his chance last season he took us from top spot to virtually struggling to get top 4 in the space of about 7 games. Klopp had to rake him out whether the fans wanted it or not. As for his broken hand, he got that by punching his own defender in the back of the head instead of the ball. That says it all. I’ve got nothing against Karius personally and wanted him to be the answer when he signed but he has never looked the part when he had played. So, I can’t understand the love-in towards him.

I think we are 2 players away from a Premiership title and challenging for the Champions League on a regular basis. Obviously goalkeeper is one, as the 3 who are there are not good enough. The other is a defensive midfielder. Henderson is not a natural there and it looks like he will be one of these players who is always injured. Even if Can stays, which is very doubtful, he hasn’t got the brains or mobility to play in that position.

Now that FSG seem to have realised that the only way to make money is by being successful, let's hope that they can continue to hack Klopp in the transfer market to bring 2 quality players to the club to address these 2 positions.

{Ed001's Note - are you being serious? He kept a clean sheet in a run of games before injuries to the central defenders that saw us struggle. Nothing to do with this idiotic personal vendetta you have against one player.}

30 Dec 2017 09:31:36
Is this the same karius that's seen us through a champions league group and topped it to boot. I think some people just want to slate just for the sake of it.

And yes the fans DID contribute to the pressure on top of pundit criticism. I saw plenty of people on here calling for him to be dropped and very few people defending him during that period.

We may never know what would have happened had klopp stuck by him but there's little point debating it now. Klopp made his preverbial bed with regard to this situation and he now needs the cohones to make the right decision. Whether that is to bring in karius now which is highly unlikely or get in someone new in the summer which is what i suspect will happen.

Where this leaves karius and ward i don't know but if klopp does bring in someone new i can see all our current keepers looking towards the exit sign for a way out.

30 Dec 2017 09:54:06
Whatever the reason Klopp dropped Karius, it surely doesn’t continue to explain why he has not selected him in the premier league.

30 Dec 2017 09:59:00
I’m totally serious Ed and I don’t have a vendetta against Karius. He is just not good enough and neither is Mignolet. I can remember him costing us points in quite a few games, culminating in the car-crash Bournemouth game.

Clean sheets don’t always tell the full story of a goalkeepers performance. Look at Ederson against Newcastle. He could have got that clean sheet sitting in an armchair reading the match day programme. We may have topped the Champuons League group with Karius in goal but Seville slammed 5 past him in 2 games. I agree they were not all specifically his fault but a top keeper saves at least a couple of them. That’s my point.

{Ed001's Note - if you say so but your posts are full of pathetic slagging off of the player. There is no critique of his performance just abuse of him.}

30 Dec 2017 11:46:11
Apologies Ed1 if it comes across like that, but I would love nothing more than Karius to step up and become great. My posts are more getting at some posters on here who probably never saw him in Germany, have watched his games here where he has pulled up no trees, yet still keep putting him forward as the answer to all our problems, based on the fact that De Gea was crap in his first season and is now great, so Karius will be too. I support all Liverpool players and would never criticise him during a game but this banter page is about opinions and my opinion is that these posters are wrong. Nothing against the lad himself.

{Ed001's Note - thats ok but you are genuinely coming across like you hate the lad.}

30 Dec 2017 13:27:21
Karius could not have done anything about any of those 5 Sevilla goals. Did u even watch the games against Sevilla? Blame our s****y midfield for letting SEvilla walk all over us but stop blaming a GK who had no chance against point blank chances that Sevilla converted.

30 Dec 2017 13:28:11
Cheers Ed. I won’t mention it again after this. In fact, I’d rather Karius be given the shirt for all competitions until the end of the season if we don’t sign another keeper in January. That would be preferable to alternating with Mignolet as keeper rotation will hardly give VVD the best opportunity to settle in quickly.

I would never hate another human being (terrorists, paedophiles and murderers excepted) and have nothing against Karius. I hope he proves me wrong. I never had anything against Sean Dundee either but wasn’t pushing for him to be a regular.

Incidentally, last summer I had a bet with one of the Ed’s (can’t remember which one) that Mignolet would start the season as No 1. The Ed disagreed and the loser was to pay £20 to charity. If you can find out which one it was, please ask him if he has paid up.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know who that would be, or how I would find out, maybe I could ask Ed033 if he can look it up. It doesn't sound like something I would do as I don't gamble, but a charity bet is different so I can't even rule myself out when it was that long ago. If Ed033 can't figure it out, and none of the other eds remember who it was, pick a charity and I will pay them £20 anyway. I don't care if two people have an argument over who owes what from gambling but don't want a charity to miss out over someone having a poor memory!}

30 Dec 2017 14:02:19
If it helps it was under my other name of Kloppometor, but don’t put it in if you don’t know it was you. I’ll put 50 quid in myself if Karius wins us the Champions League like Dudek.

29 Dec 2017 20:20:09
Hey ed033! Have sent the match review for Liverpool vs swansea match.

{Ed033's Note - Yes thanks, it is now an article as Liverpool v Swansea review

29 Dec 2017 20:42:07
Well done SW, good read mate.

30 Dec 2017 06:39:15
No to Sanchez. Too many tantrums for Klopp's liking.

30 Dec 2017 09:26:33
Thanx ed033! Thanx Salah for d feedback!

29 Dec 2017 19:48:51
Just thought I'd say good on Rhian Brewster. Takes a lot of guts to speak out against such a sensitive and disgraceful topic. I read the article in the Guardian, glad he didn't go to one of the tabloids, and it was sickening to hear some of the abuse he and others have suffered. What's even worse is the complete lack of action by FIFA and UEFA. Hopefully, Brewster speaking about racism passionately and honestly will change things for the better.

29 Dec 2017 19:51:48
Well put mate. One would've thought in this day in age racism would be gone but how long have we been saying that.

30 Dec 2017 09:37:49
Not a sensitive topic at all it has been common place for decades and nothing will be done about it. Rhian is right to speak up about it but i fear his expectations will not be met.

29 Dec 2017 18:23:18
A question for Ed002, if you have the time.

It seems an apt time to ask with Liverpool signing Virgil van Dijk for a well documented world-record fee for a defender, and of course with the next round of TV rights bidding coming up. Do you see this increased spending on transfer fees, wages, agents fees etc carrying on this upward curve?

We've seen Neymar move for an unprecedented fee, Mbappe as well when his transfer is made permanent in 2018, Liverpool have rejected humongous sums of money for Coutinho offered from Barcelona - surely this can't go on forever. Surely the TV deals will soon tail off and the fees stop increasing at the rate they seemingly are? Or will this trend just continue?

I'd love to hear your thoughts, Ed!

Thanks in advance - and a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all the Eds while I'm at it!

{Ed002's Note - These are only a handful of players at a handful of clubs. The media money is just for the Premier League sides. The rest of the world carries on as normal.}

29 Dec 2017 18:44:23
Thank you for such a prompt response Ed. I suppose it is only the English sides that benefit from the Premier League bidding rights and then there's only the likes of PSG, Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich who have as much financial backing outside of the English top flight. I just never thought I'd see the day Liverpool sold a player to Crystal Palace for over £30m (Benteke) and of course ourselves buy a player for £75m! We shall see if it carries on! It only felt like yesterday that spending £20-30m on a player seemed like a lot! Now it's common place in the Premier League!

{Ed002's Note - Media income for the PL is far more than anywhere else. Barcelona and Real Madrid get less than the leading clubs. The clubs you mention in relation of financial backing earn their money from elsewhere. Eventually the whole thing may be levelled for the majority by the “elite” clubs breaking away.}

29 Dec 2017 17:31:15
Happy New Years Eds
As ever thanks for your time and hard work doing this for all of us. I hope 2018 is a good one for you all. Oh, and good luck and the inevitable daftness that January brings.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}

29 Dec 2017 16:17:37
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Liverpool vs Swansea - Match review

29 Dec 2017 16:26:25
Another good article SW15.
I must be watching a different Robertson to you though mate. That's not me saying he's great but he's far from the weak link I've seen some make him out to be.

29 Dec 2017 17:09:41
Thanx Jayden! For me the fact that milner got behind the swansea defence a couple of times proved how poor Robertson was because he didn't use the space left by coutinho like milner did. I honestly hope he can become better like Moreno has cuz he has the ability to do it.

29 Dec 2017 17:22:47
Great article sw.
I wasn't convinced by can in this game he has games where he doesn't look interested and this was one of them. He pulled out of a few challenges and his passing was lacklustre and lethargic. Hopefully he ups his desire as we'll need him with hendo out. Really liked ox' performance, looked like the one in midfield trying to take control of the game.

29 Dec 2017 17:27:55
SW15 I thought he did ok against a terrible Swans team but has fitted in pretty well since he's come in due to Moreno's injury. 6 games and apart from the Arsenal goals (where he wasn't at fault) we've been pretty solid at the back. He almost produced one of the best assists of the season against swans with his 60 yard diagonal ball to Salah and it was his cross into the box after some nice play with Couts that led to TAA's goal. Like I said he's not great but I think he deserves to feel some of the love other players get for similar performances.

29 Dec 2017 17:50:30
I personally thought Robbo had a better game than you suggest, I watched in on TV from what I saw he didn’t get forward as much as he could have but his passing was very good. One pass in particular when he pinged it over the top for I believe Salah? Which was top notch. Still hasn’t been tested defensively too much imo. Great read though, keep up the great work you’re doing and thank you for doing them!

29 Dec 2017 23:31:20
Did you really just say “better like Moreno”. The Sevilla game alone shows that Moreno is still a liability.

30 Dec 2017 05:36:35
Thanx Rdp red and lfc leon!
Kingkenny92. surely u can't deny how much moreno has improved this season. At Seville, the occasion clearly got the better of him. But other than that he has been outstanding. Maybe even one of the best lb in the premier league this season.

29 Dec 2017 15:14:17
See people talking about Draxler as a Coutinho replacement but I'd beware I watch every PSG game and the guy just has a bad attitude, totally separate skill set and he has been playing centrally but it's only because he isn't good enough to get in the attacking line.

Lemar or Ziyech would be a much better in my opinion.

29 Dec 2017 16:21:19
Ziyech comes with his own set of issues, though a very decent footballer.

29 Dec 2017 14:23:31
Can't find the thread ED2, but just want to say thanks for the confirmed transfers list, really interesting!

{Ed002's Note - There are plenty more but they were a few from off the top of my head.}

29 Dec 2017 14:40:05
Can I ask where we find this list?

{Ed002's Note - It is on the pages somewhere - search on Lennon.}

29 Dec 2017 15:47:35
{Ed002's Note - Like van Dijk moving to Liverpool? There are many, many thers such as Diego Costa to Atletico, Diego Rossi to LA, Brooks Lennon to RSL, Anthony Ujah to Mainz, Sandro Wagner from Hoffenheim to Bayern Munich, Carlos Vela to LA, Vietto will go on loan from Atletico Madrid to Sporting Lisbon, Mario Gomez will leave Wolfburg to Stuttgart, Lucas Lima turned down interest from England and will join Palmeiras. Sevilla are splashing out a significant fee for Arana to join as left back in January etc., etc. }.

29 Dec 2017 13:14:47
I'd love us to sign a world class midfielder in the summer. Cans future is elsewhere, keita looks potentially very good but we haven't had a special midfielder in years. Gerrard was past his prime even four years ago and alonso was sold nearly a decade ago. I like Henderson but he's nowhere near the quality of midfielders we've had in the past. Coutinho isn't a central midfielder before he's brought up.

29 Dec 2017 13:44:46
I had a look at Goretzka on YouTube, not reliable I know. Also not sure how reliable the interest is, I’d like to hear from ed02 if it’s genuine or nonsense instead of all the rubbish I read about him being in the bag as I don’t believe much unless ed02 confirms it. But from what I saw he looks a similar player than Gerrard, a driving force from midfield with a good range of passing with a good shot on him and an eye for goals. Like I said I just had a look on YouTube so not getting carried away as they highlight the good bits and can probably make Mignolet look half decent. Anyway it’s be nice hearing from people who have actually seen him play regularly to hear if he’s consistent enough and what sort of player he actually is?

{Ed002's Note - Schalke have offered Leon Goretzka a very good new contract and he is mulling that over whilst he is aware of offers from Barcelona and Juventus that will be formalised in January. Additionally his representatives spoke with three English sides in November and are also aware of renewed interest from Bayern Munich, although that is complicated by regulation. Arsenal having taken a new employee on board are certainly interested and I would not rule out Manchester United but he is perhaps third or fourth pick for them. For reasons that are beyond me, many Liverpool fans are convinced that he has already agreed to join the club. Liverpool's interest stems from when they were struggling to agree a deal for Keita and he was seen as a potential option but they have since returned to declare an interest with his representatives. Bayern Munich are making it known that they would offer a guarantee for the summer but they cannot speak to Goretzka in January - although they will continue to make their position clear to his agent. The player has said he would like to move to Barcelona. Right now he has an offer of a very significant package from Schalke that he knows other clubs will not match, offers coming from Barcelona and Juventus, an offer of a summer move with a significant signing on fee to Bayern Munich and interest from Arsenal, Liverpool and potentially Manchester United.

From the interested clubs you can see he is well thought of.}

29 Dec 2017 13:46:43
Goretzka?
Not world class yet but has the potential to be one. A midfield 2 of Keita and Goretzka won't look too shabby, will it?

29 Dec 2017 13:48:04
Keita has the potential to be very very good for us i don’t think you will be asking us to sign a midfielder this time next year.

29 Dec 2017 13:50:46
Leon Goretzka would be a massive coup! He is a very good player eyed by some of the heavy weights! A midfiled of Goretzka and Kieta would be brilliant!

29 Dec 2017 13:58:50
I think Keita is better then 'potentially very good' mate he's a top top player have you not seen him play? not a dig just asking. He's what we've needed for a very long time, I would love for him to be partnered with somebody equally as good as him but we'll see.

29 Dec 2017 14:05:29
Goretzka!

29 Dec 2017 14:06:51
Big al. Would goretkza or lemar do?

29 Dec 2017 14:58:41
Great update ed thanks. Jesus looks like he has a string of top clubs to choose. Barca, Juve, Bayern all interested. I guess we will see what develops.

29 Dec 2017 15:02:49
Top reply as always ed and thank you for your reply much appreciated.

29 Dec 2017 15:50:24
Thanks for such detailed information Ed2. Appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

28 Dec 2017 22:21:12
Ed1, do you reckon there's any more business to be done in January? It's just I've been hearing Goretzka is very keen on a move to Liverpool.

{Ed001's Note - it is unlikely, FFP will make it difficult for much more to be done.}

29 Dec 2017 09:12:29
Regarding ffp ed, if we were to make any signing similar to the Keita one would that only affect expenditure in the following season or when the deal is struck?

Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - The money counts in the season it is due and paid. So for Keita, part this season (the additional sum) and part when the transfer fee is paid.}

29 Dec 2017 09:47:23
So out best route for signings would be securing free transfers for the summer? Would that be correct?

If so there are four players out there that would be decent buys ( or all of them obviously) .

Gimenez.
De Brij.
Meyer.
Goretzka.

{Ed002's Note - I have certainly never said that. Whatever clubs do they need to comply with the FFP regulations - and they cover money spent, the amount of money the owners can put in to the club to help out with transfer and wages.}

29 Dec 2017 10:11:14
Cheers Ed.

29 Dec 2017 10:13:41
I'd take Gimenez and Goretzka from that list. The VVD fee would balance out if we got two brilliant players on pre contracts.
But there seems to be a lot of interest from many top sides in those two players. Klopp will do well to get those two signed up.

29 Dec 2017 10:22:58
How do people always come up with the 'this will mean that' theory? You can't guess what will happen. The eds know how it works and mostly where interest lies etc but can't give answers based on ifs, buts and maybes. I'm surprised the straw industry has any left to sell with the amount people are clutching!

29 Dec 2017 00:00:35
If our business in January is (including deals for summer) are.

Akanji. (Summer) .
Meyer. (Summer free) .
Goretzka. (Summer free) .
Keeper.
Keita.

That's a positive start for me hopefully Brandt also.

I expect a fair few departures come the summer.

Coutinho.
Can.
Milner.
Matip/ Klavan.
Origi.
Sturridge.

29 Dec 2017 00:49:55
I think Klavan will stay ahead of Matip or Lovren. Klav seems way better suited to a third choice CB than the others despite his age. Most consistent CB we have right now so seems silly to jettison him this summer.

29 Dec 2017 09:48:49
He’s free.

29 Dec 2017 23:27:02
Doubt we’ll sign meyer.