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29 Aug 2013 23:45:55
Hello once again eds. Heard Alan Hansen mention on the BBC that Suarez may be signing a new contract. Would this only be to set his transfer value, once Madrid finally make an official offer? Or is he actually looking to commit himself. If he believes in that sort of thing. Many Thanks. {Ed001's Note - Hansen was just mentioning the rumours going round, I don't believe he was stating it was a fact.}
29 Aug 2013 23:42:34
Everyone who is criticising the clubs lack of investment have valid points. At the start if the window br said the 4 players we bought were for the squad and the rest of the window would be to improve the team but nobody has come in. There are a few days left but it is worrying that we have been overtaken by other squads. None of the eds have really answered when questions have asked about fsgs willingness to really invest this transfer window {Ed001's Note - not true, I have said the club want to sign at least 3 more players and are willing to pay for them. What they won't do is overpay for them.}
Note to persons:
Ed said the club want 3 more players and not we will 100% be signing 3 players.
Ed01. Sometimes you have to pay a little more for quality even if £3m Or £4m is classed as a little more. This is probably the last summer for big spending as ffp starts properly next year. Are we taking a gamble by not investing a little more this summer? Thanks ed.
Ynwa {Ed001's Note - whatever you do is a gamble, but I do think we are making sure we do not overpay as next year it is likely that prices will be lower. If we overspend now and it is a disaster, similar to previous seasons, then we are completely stuffed for another 3 years or so sorting it out. Whereas the small improvements we have made will at least keep us in contention for Europe, with the potential for more if clubs do decide to sell at the right price.}
Thanks Ed's 01. Good luck for the next 4 days.
Ynwa {Ed001's Note - cheers mate, we will need it, especially if we don't manage to get anyone in!}
Good post, ed. We want the players BUT we won`t over-pay for them. That can be frustrating atimes but every transfer regardless of price is a gamble. We`ve tried with the "just pay the fee approach" and that got us into the mess that BR and the owners are trying to clean up. Cout, Studge, Migs, Toure, Aspas are examples of how you can get great value at reasonable prices. Let`s keep the faith, las and come sun, we will all be smiling.
It just looks like fsg don't understand that to progress u need to buy players who are better than u have and sometimes that means going a little bit further to buy a player. It's like taking a car to f1 and expecting to win, I don't thinking team or squad is stronger than last year
FFP starts next year so let's spend 100m this year seems to be some people's thinking. Just a couple of problems with that.
We are losing money so we actually add 100m more to the losses.
We sign 3 marquee/tent signings on 125k per week and that is added to the outgoings during FFP
So the best way to go with FFP in mind is to reduce outgoings, reduce debt, promote youth and don't make poor signings that cost you dear (Carroll, Aquilani, Cole, Downing, Keane, Adam, Poulsen, Jovanovic).
29 Aug 2013 23:32:03
Just guessing really but after trawling the net, it seems like we well could end up signing sakho and yamolenko before the window closes. I for one reckon those two players would be outstanding signings. Hopefully all the reports are true. i'd be very happy with that.
I will be jumping for joy if we got those two
ILLori would be a bonus but I think he would be one for the future and is probably not ready for the PL
29 Aug 2013 23:27:40
Kaka has said its time to move on from madrid, by tomorrow the mail, mirror and express will have us nailed on for him so
Its on twittay right now
Linked to Arsenal I'd have thought
29 Aug 2013 23:13:55
Eds, can I just ask one thing.
Do you not think we need another RB because. what if Johnson gets an injury?
Thanks {Ed001's Note - then we have Kelly, Wisdom and McLaughlin to cover the spot. I would like to see McLaughlin get a chance this season, he looks too good for the U21s now and needs to step up.}
Why would Rodgers buy a lb when we need a cb and a winger and fsg won't sanction a decent bid for either of those positions? What do I know, but don't expect anything exciting between now and deadline day. Live in the real world. Hopefully we'll beat Man Utd, and with some relatively easy fixtures we'll start well, but unfortunately we'll be left wanting over the course of the season?
Sorry, rb!
Johnson worries me at times - too often.
However, I agree that McLaughlin deserves a chance, but not in the PL just yet. I would have liked him to play in our capital one cup match against notts.
But Ed001, BR said Kelly is far from match fit, Wisdom is really a CB and tends to be sloppy at RB. {Ed001's Note - if he is not match fit, then he needs to play to get match fit. Wisdom is only cover, so he doesn't need to be top class. If he was top class, he would be first choice not cover.}
Johnson is a very good fullback in our system. Name me a better one in the PL. His default position in the system is to be around or over the halfway line. Therefore when it looks like he's out of position sometimes he's actually in position because the full backs provide our width.
Ed from what you have seen do you think Wisdomcould become top class and a regular starter for us? {Ed023's Note - Yes. He is still a kid and learning, remember CB's usually get better the older they get. I think he will be definitely playing top flight football for his career}
29 Aug 2013 23:07:28
Hi eds is Skrtel ready for Sunday and is he likely to partner Agger? {Ed001's Note - he should be fit, I have no idea if Rodgers will choose him though.}
Who else would he chose then? he can't play wisdom and its too late for a new cb to come in and play straight away {Ed001's Note - why can't he play Wisdom? Is there some new rule about not playing players with the first name of Andre that I don't know about?}
Thought we might have a nice shiny new CB available for Sunday.
There's a very good reason not to play Wisdom, he will get turned inside out by van persie.
The lad is too prone to basic errors which get found out by better opponents, he just isn't ready yet, anyone can see that.
30 Aug 2013 07:25:42
Ed01, Wisdom won't handle the pressure in a big game as such. RVP and rooney would on their toes, I Prefer Skertel, and wisdom was shakky in past 3 matches. valagerana. celtic and Notts. {Ed001's Note - how do you know he won't? It could be the making of his career, he certainly won't handle it if he doesn't get the chance to try.}
29 Aug 2013 22:56:33
For all those asking why we didn't sign so-and-so player?
I completely agree with you. We are LFC and FSG should start acting like it. We should just bid 56 million pounds for every player on the market. It doesn't matter whether the selling club would gladly take 5 million pounds. let's just make a massive statement of intent by blowing all the other clubs out of the water!
And we should buy all players on the market. Yes, it doesn't matter whether they will fit into the team or whether they want to come or not. Remember, for us to qualify for the CL, we need at least 103 players!
The sarcasm is strong with this one
I completely agree, I was amazed when we didn't purchase Higuain, Soldado and Cavani!
29 Aug 2013 22:33:37
So we can have Yarmalenko for the same money we bought Stuart Downing? Now that transfer committee is what you call a no-brainer! The only question is will Ayre travel by Harley or Jet plane to the Ukraine?
How do you know if he`s worth it. I saw him play at the euros (along w/ Konoplyanka) and he was very decent. Every transfer is a gamble so we`ll see. I don`t think Yarmolenk will sign for lfc.
29 Aug 2013 22:30:54
Hello dear Ed(s) and fellow reds.
Finally registered, made it very easy on mobile and you deserve great respect for that!
Previously known as RedSox69 but you know hah!
Came up with a great name: Van purse strings but decided against it lol.
Anyways, I was wondering with the links to Sakho, isn't he left footed and plays Lcb here Agger plays? Yes he can cover left bal but I doubt he's being brought in for that. Ilori is left footed but I've seen from the videos that he prefers playing Rcb.
Secondly, do you think we'll be signed just one or two of the following Cb's we've been linked to, and who in your opinion is most likely?
1) Alderweireld
2) Ilori
3) sakho
Cheers
30 Aug 2013 07:29:13
sakho is superb player but would cost 12 mill
Alderweild is touted at 5 mill by athletico, Worth a try and can play in two decent positions.
I woulld go for Toby Alderweilld 5-6 mill
You realise that Sakho will replace skrtel and Ilori will replace Coates. both will cost under £20m combined and we will get around £17m combined for skrtel and coates. It is a no brainer we will just have to wait until the winter or next summer transfer window to sell and balance the books.
29 Aug 2013 22:05:24
So with what we've been rumoured with over the last 24 hours by Monday night the following will have happened.
Luis Suarez will have signed for Chelsea with Mata, Torres & Moses all arriving at Liverpool
Martin Skrtel will be sold to Napoli for £12million with Sarkho & Llori in to replace him at a combind cost of £20million
Yarmolenko & Turan also sign in on deadline day costing £20million each.
We sign Gareth Barry on loan as cover for Lucas.
Fans finally rejoice because we spend around £50-60million on players.
And as we're all so bothered about other teams especially Spurs, here are a few snippets from the rest of our rivals.
Luis Suarez suffers cruciate knee ligament injury on both knees on Chelsea debut.
Man Utd talk Paul Scholes & Nicky Butt out of retirement as their major summer signings
Arsenal sign Joey Barton & Andri Voronin then hails the bright new future at the gunners
Everton buy the other half of Wigans squad
And finally Gareth Bale fails medical at Real Madrid which causes Spurs to go into administration as Daniel Levy can't keep up his Wonga pay day loan he got to buy all these players.
So there you have it, transfer window all panned out so Eds thanks for all your amazing work as usual, start your hols early :-)
Lol, post of the day. cheers mate needed a laugh
Best post i've read today, nice one.
The only thing I find hard to believe here is that wonga would loan Daniel Levy money, with them sponsorin Newcastle and him tryin to drive such a hard bargain bringin his payment plan down to somethin that suits him, I thought they would have walked away.
Johnthered nah its not funny, at best it makes you look around 13yrs old and at worst it makes Liverpool supporters look bitter and twisted,
Johnthered nah its not funny, at best it makes you look around 13yrs old and at worst it makes Liverpool supporters look bitter and twisted,
Is vidic and ferdinand not both right footed and play together / or luiz and terry or alex and silva? just because there both the same feet doesn't mean they can't play together, probably the most ridicolous argument in world football!
29 Aug 2013 21:57:06
Dear Ed(s)
Just registered, previously known as RedSox69 but you know hah.
Well I was just wondering where Sakho will play? isn't he left footed and plays where Agger plays right now? I know he can cover left back but I doubt we're linked to him because of that.
I think Ilori is also left footed but from the videos I've seen, he plays on the rcb side.
Also, with us being linked to all 3 (Alderweireld, Ilori and Sakho), how many of the 3 are we planning on getting? 1 or 2?
Thanks {Ed001's Note - we would like 2, one for now and one young for the future/cover for now. Sakho will play where he is needed, cover for left back, Agger and Toure, with the hope he will push them on or take their place if they are out of form.}
29 Aug 2013 21:45:57
I understand what people are saying about Eriksen not being as good as has been touted but come on, £10-12m for him, that's a steal! The same price as Sturridge and £3m more than we paid for Alberto, wow, bargain!
The point being made here is that net spend is essentially zero which is worrying if we want to think about challenging for a CL spot. Sad reality of not having the same spending power. FIFA fair play is a farce mind.
All this talk of net spend of zero fails to take account of agents fees, paying off Downing, a signing on bonus for Toure etc. Just saying 'we bought X for 5 and sold why for 5 so we spent zero' is not correct.
Certain fans parading themselves as financial experts who know absolutely nothing about club finances. Net spend is not as cut and dry as you might think. And if we don`t want nor need eriksen, we won`t sign him even if he cost a penny. So move on.
I would have liked Eriksen but he's seen as too similar to Coutinho. Aspas and Allen are hardly heavyweights so there does seem to be interest in talented players who are more physically robust. HM, Costa, Moses, Papa, Sakho
Eriksen will also be on mega wages so factor in the 5m per year over 4/5 years for that and you are looking at a big investment.
29 Aug 2013 21:41:17
Alleged 20 million bid for MK. FAILED
26 million bid for Willian. FAILED
21.4 million bid for Costa. FAILED
4 days of the transfer window left 100's of thousands in wages saved a week and 5 million profit on ins and outs on transfers during the summer.
Who are FSG trying to kid it's been a cost cutting excersise all summer and our squad is still nowhere near as strong as both Manchester clubs, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenals.
I'm sick to the back teeth of all the lies and crap that we as fans keep been fed by BR, Ian Ayre and John Henry about big signings and been a club that can still attract top players.
What must Stevie.G think when even he stated that the club needs to sign 2 more top first team players to be able to compete for a top 4 position.
God help us if we lose Stevie or Coutinho over a long period between now and Christmas.
Cost cutting all along in perperation of the alleged stadium improvements everyday. {Ed001's Note - there has not been a 5m profit made on transfers, that is just a complete load of nonsense. You have made no account for agents fees, paying off contracts, the laughably called loyalty bonus etc. Why do those with an anti-FSG agenda have to falsify figures to make a point?}
Sigh.
City, United, Arsenal, and Arsenal all make at least £50M more a year than we do. Spurs are comparable in turnover but are widely expected to make something shy of a boatload of money on Bale.
You do realize the club has been and continues to lose money, right? I swear you'd think, by reading some of these posts, that Ayre was secretly hiding money in a bag under his desk or something.
Ignorance is bliss
Not to mention Carroll money was really spent in Jan on Sturridge who was his replacement. Add to that the cost of getting Joe Cole off the books and replacing him with PC was way, way more than Coutinho's 8.5m fee. But if people only see what they want to see.
29 Aug 2013 21:36:11
Bit of a scathing indictment from the southern press, seems to have a bit of sympathy for BR. It seems our transfer policy has not gone unnoticed.
"Kolo Touré and Aly Cissokho both picked up injuries on Tuesday night against Notts County, so Liverpool do need a central defender, especially one who can play at left back too. That'll explain their interest in Paris Saint-Germain's Mamadou Sakho. But you know how these deals pan out for the hapless Anfield moneymen. So when their under-value offer is rejected, expect Brendan Rodgers to get fed up and go on a fruitless pursuit of wingers who cut inside rather than attempting to beat a man instead."
Southern Press - Are we talking Portsmouth Evening News?
Our transfer policy being get value for money - Spend within our means - Follow the financial fair play rules, have an excellent academy full of talent to feed the senior squad etc.
Perhaps incoming loans are more to do with a temp fix until either that player proves he is good enough or until a better target is available at a later date. Maybe there are expectations that one or two players out on loan or coming through the youth ranks will be good enough come next season - That is what the plan should be.
The Guardian is a national rather than southern paper, popular with people that don't like their news in any way independent IMO. Hate for you to come across as a chip on the shoulder type northerner, especially as the LFC family is worldwide.
Spot on MM. One of the few sane posts in recent days. How some people can't see that we were on the wrong track for most of the last 23 years but now we are on the right one (albeit a work in progress) baffles me.
Good young manager
Exciting young team
Academy producing first team players
A coherent recruitment strategy
Hard-headed negotiation and willingness to walk away
Wages tied to status and importance within squad
Debt coming down
Stadium plans moving forward
Oh, and 11 wins, 4 draws in last 16. 100% start to the season
But muppets want to blow all the progress outlined above by signing mercenaries on massive wages just to make a statement??
29 Aug 2013 21:10:41
Ed please post in the conspiracy theory section. Kolo Toure's first language is French and he has been used as RCB. Sakho is a LCB and again first language is French. Is this our new CB pairing? Is Agger going to be sold off?
Just a thought.
Keep to the ufo theorys i'd say
Sakho can play at RCB too, as Tiago Ilori who is right footed can play and LCB and LB
29 Aug 2013 21:00:18
Wow,
Sorry to the readers who are sick of the Spurs chat - but if they now sign Arda I will be truely gutted. Reportedly willing to meet buyout clause of 20 million.
Why on earth have we not just done this deal?
There is no denying that he would add real quality up top and we know he would work his socks off to be a success at the club he supports.
If in the unlikely event that he doesn't perform, we lose 5 million max when he is sold.
So frustrating as there arn't that many options for LW it seems now.
I'm a little disappointed we don't seem to of gone in for him too.
Edds? I thought the club were talking to Atletico about this move?
Cheers
Phooey {Ed023's Note - All I know is that we enquired, perhaps when 002 returns he might give a better answer}
29 Aug 2013 20:53:26
Hi all,
I'm sure this has been done to death, but just to clear my own head on it I was looking for confirmation as to whether a move for Juan Mata is even remotely possible?
The way I see it, if we were willing to spend upwards of £25mill on Miki and Willian, surely we would consider it for a proven premier league player like Mata.
Would Mata view us as an attractive prospect, and do we have the facilities to match his wages (and agent fees and signing bonus and VAT and all other sundry items that come with buying a footballer nowadays)
Cheers in advance
29 Aug 2013 22:34:34
Should Liverpool go for kaka? Good playmaker with experience!
Injury prone and expensive
Who's going to pay his £200k a week wages?
You know what? Why don't you go bid for him? We will wait for you right here?
29 Aug 2013 22:02:37
Dear Eds and anybody else out there. Does anyone know if we have a song for Daniel Sturridge. I haven't been to the game yet this season but am going Sunday. I can't remember any from last season. He is fast becoming a true red hero and I've just watched him dancing his goal celebration on the internet. Top bloke - deserves a good song.
29 Aug 2013 20:34:45
Looks like LS is staying then (thanks Macca). If we could buy a strong centre half like a younger Kolo I think we'd be sorted at the back, with enough cover too. Would love Mata, but that's wishful thinking! Watching the footy news over the last few days, and the Chelsea rumours site, and the Torres situation is interesting. He definitely isn't the player he was, and he still needs to grovel. but would it be worth taking him back on the cheap?
Maybe if he took a big cut in wages too? Striking options of Suarez, Sturridge, Aspas, Torres and Borini (if he stays) looks useful, especially with Gerrard and Couthino providing. Torres has lost his burst of pace, but he's a great player who can score goals and he owes us! Anyone else reckon he'd be worth inviting back on our terms?
I'd have him back in an instant! I think he'd be far more successful with our style of play than he has been at Chelsea. He knows where the back of the net is, he just needs the service. Having said all that - it's never going to happen!
No thanks. What would Torres do for us, hold the bench down in case all three of Sturridge, Suarez, and Aspas were unavailable?
29 Aug 2013 19:47:20
Hey eds, realistically, who seems closer to LFC of our defensive targets - Ilori, or Sakho? {Ed001's Note - why or?}
Ha! Don't give me false hopes that both will sign, ed! {Ed001's Note - we want both mate, it is not a case of either or. Though I have to say, I am not holding out hope as we seem to struggle to get deals done late in the window nowadays.}
I would like to see both brought in.
Dont think BR rates Skrtel or Coates, and if it wasnt for injuries I think they might have not survived this window!
29 Aug 2013 23:16:39
Do you think we could get both and a attacker ed? {Ed001's Note - that is certainly what the club would like to do, I can't see it happening myself, but you never know.}
I think both will sign but Ilori will sign first. Wisdom will go out on loan (if BR's plan works) and once Coates gets fit he will be off, as will Skrtel once Toure is fit. so perhaps january.
Agger, Sakho, Toure, Ilori, Wisdom, Kelly (can't help but think Agger will leave next summer if we are not in CL)
29 Aug 2013 19:24:08
Only a quick one for the ed's,
What's happening with the page update; seems to be only every 2 hours or so these days?
Also any chance you can bring back the time stating when the page was last updated?
Not slagging/criticising; just massively addicted and don't want to miss anything on here. even if it is all just moaning mostly! Haha!
Keep up the 'marquee' work ed's!
xxxxx {Ed001's Note - should be up there at the top anyway.}
I know mate, but it's not.
That's what I'm saying.
Used to be all the time, but not anymore?
Took ages to update tonight too, or is that just me?!
Thanks for the reply.
xxxxx {Ed001's Note - it is there in red at the top of the page! It can sometimes take ages because of the amount of nonsense that has to be deleted. We had about 300 posts asking the same thing about Torres alone, only one of those gets posted, the other 299 are just wasting my time as I delete them. It is the same with every rumour, there tend to be another 100+ asking about it and another 100+ just repeating it (at least) so it can take some time to wade through them all.}
Thanx ed; I'm sure that wasn't there yesterday though you know?!
Oh well, no worries.
By the way, wasn't having a pop. I know you all work really hard for this site, and I massively appreciate it.
Yeah, proper joke with these Tottenham and Torres obssessions!
I'll try and keep my time-wasting down to a minimum!
Have a boss day!
xxxxx
29 Aug 2013 18:47:48
Eds is there as limit on the amount of loans you can take in a season? {Ed001's Note - yes, 4, but only 2 at a time:
V.7.5. the maximum number of Temporary Transfers to any one Club registrable in the same Season shall be 4 and in no circumstances shall more than 1 be from the same Transferor Club at any one time save there shall be excluded from these numbers any Temporary Transfer of the kind described in V.7.6.1 or V.7.6.2;
Premier league ruleS: SeCTiON V
SECTION V: PLAYERS – TRANSFERS OF REGISTRATIONS
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V.7.6. not more than 2 Temporary Transfers shall be registered by a Club at the same time except that there shall be excluded from that number:
V.7.6.1. any Temporary Transfer which become permanent; and
V.7.6.2. the Temporary Transfer of a goalkeeper which in its absolute discretion the Board may allow in circumstances it considers to be exceptional;
So you could sign 2, make them permanent then sign another 2 or sign 2 then send them back and sign another 2, but you can't sign 2 then add 2 more.}
29 Aug 2013 21:09:26
Any updates on the injuries picked up last night eds? {Ed003's Note -The scratches are healing fine thanks but the carpet burns might take a little longer,thanks for asking btw.}
Brilliant ed. In response to BDOT I hear the results of the scan's on Toure and Cissohko will be known tomorrow, can't say for Allen though as of yet.
29 Aug 2013 21:05:58
No bid for eriksen in my opinion for the price is a huge mistake. SG has looked quite leggy in the first 2 games and has given the ball away a lot, but is still our star man. Do we expect him to carry on forever. Or does BR seriously expect Henderson, Allen to become the new SG in a central attacking role.
To be honest I thing Henderson will eventually
Henderson will be a good player because he has the work ethic and desire to succeed. Esiksen? I`ll pass.
29 Aug 2013 19:18:18
Just a couple of days to go! I've been like a junkie, completely addicted to this site and many more to try and get an insight into who we're being linked with.
Everyone knows we need a centre back and a winger, just dreading seeing Ayre leaving the office at 8pm, on ssn, having not signed the players we need.
Get the job done man!
Rushie was ace
My only concern is signing someone in time to play on Sunday, if Wisdom plays, from what I've seen we're going to have a very difficult afternoon.
29 Aug 2013 19:02:38
Hi eds
Any chance of a separate page for boring "why don't we sign erikson" page?
Maybe even a separate one for Harry scouser?
The latter is a jest of course (kind of)
Cheers,
29 Aug 2013 18:09:36
So we can actually have Ronaldo and Messi playing for LFC albeit the Ukranian ones i.e. Konoplyanka and Yarmalenko.
Come on Ian Ayre. let's make this happpen.
Would be over the money if we got both, though think we only need one of either!
Unless Suarito goes
29 Aug 2013 18:01:04
Forgetting all the transfer BS for a minute.
I just want to say how wonderful was it to see Sturridge getting out of his car and having a dance with a supporter, normally footballers only ever get bad press for being aloof or thinking that they are above the ordinary fan, but that shows what the man is all about.
That brought a smile to my face and just shows that all the reports about him being moody are just rubbish, I think he is just very focused on being the best he can be and is now enjoying his football.
Daniel Sturridge, I salute you, a true gent and a great footballer.
Best video I've seen in a long time.proves footballers can have a laugh and joke with the fans
King Luis
Pure class that guy.
Thrilled to have him in our squad and club.
I second that, sir! It brought a smile to my face to see him egging the fan on and then he seemed so excited that he jumped out of his car to join him. I'd quite happily see that dance a lot more if it means he'll be banging the goals in for years to come!
Just been watching Sturridge interview on Lfctv, I was very impressed with him, came across really well
29 Aug 2013 17:57:21
I think it would do all of you whiners some good to read the other team's pages. Nowhere near as much negativity as on this page. It's down right embarrassing. Panicking like a 4 year old kid when he's lost his favorite toy. You think the club honestly prepared for a season of no injury?
Isn't that exactly what happened at the end of last summers transfer window?
29 Aug 2013 17:52:18
Im looking forward to watching Vela Bernard an Kiessling tear Man U up.
29 Aug 2013 17:40:04
Look at it like this boys 'n' girls - if true, we've potentially got half of the future of the French National side defence for a bargain.
It will certainly make it easier for both lads to fit in.
Happy days.
Fingers crossed!
29 Aug 2013 17:35:05
Ed, is this Gianluca di Marzio reliable? If we do get Sakho and a proven left winger, I'll be over the moon!
What do you feel?
Cheers {Ed001's Note - I don't know who he is sorry.}
29 Aug 2013 17:17:30
Eds, do you know if Usain Bolt is available, would add much needed pace on the wings!
I know he is a Manu fan, but if we pay him in chicken nuggets it may just swing it for us. He told me he was a keen footballer in his youth and feel he could do a solid job for us.
Failing that, Yarmolenko would do if the rumours are true, I would be made up if we got him. Along with Sakho I think we will all be happy chappies and gals. Until we win ugly againa and the moaners will be out in force.
Fingers crossed they sign eh?
Too late Fatboy, apparently Daniel Levy has signed Bolt for Spurs.
I'm now awaiting the posts from all the cry babies complaining about how we missed out on him!
29 Aug 2013 17:15:25
Jennifer Lopez doing champs league draw ;)
Thanks
Jeff
Poor Billy could not open 1 ball @ one stage the man to his right said "mix them up" Billy just put his hand in an got one lol the slap head beside him is trying to take the ball off him an poor Billy is still tryin to twist it open as he's giving it back.
That's Ed002
The baldy guy may be able to open a ball but he will never lift the european cup unlike the legend billy mcneil did I was hoping when it said later a striker who started at Liverpool was hoping for fowler was a disappointment to see owen but he too can open a ball but never got his hands on the cl trophy either so billy mcneil was the winner out of the 3
29 Aug 2013 16:56:27
The 'Special' one, said recently a team must have 22 good players. On my count IMO we have 19 (give or take 1).
Also we have 4 good players injured (Coates good? I'm unsure) and 1 banned. So at the moment our squad is looking incredibly thin.
Problems I see in the team:
1) Jones is not a good back up GK. 2) We have MS, DA, KT, SC and AW for Centreback cover, but we have 2 injured and 1 only very young. The solution is, sign another CB and do NOT loan Wisdom out yet, maybe in Jan now after injury to Kolo. 3) Midfield, we need a young player, to cover in this position, I thought Coady would of been good, but if he is on loan, we need to look for something desperately.
4) Wingers. We have 2 wingers. Ibe and Sterling. IMO we need to bring in a brilliant player to play on the wings. or possibly continue with Coutinho there and buy a world class No.10
5) Keep Suarez, unless a great offer comes in (£50m upwards). Why? because he can change a game in the blink of an eye. Yes he hogs the ball sometimes and wastes chances, but he is truly a world class talent. And when it comes down to it, I enjoy watching him play, he is exciting!
Transfer List: 1) GK. 2) Ilori/Sakho (or both IF Skrtel leaves) 3) Young CM. Joel Obi, Rudy, Clasie or Xhaka. 4) Go ALL out for Griezmann, Mata or Turan. Could also get Moses or Ayew ASWELL to add more depth and bit of quality.
Cheers :)
29 Aug 2013 18:24:11
Did Martin Kelly do anything wrong to miss being named in your cbs?
A few problems here mate.
Jones is exactly what ou need as a back-up. Experienced and reliable. Hardly think Chelsea suffered with superstars like Turnbull & Hilarious as back up.
We need a pacy defender (Ilori) to be more effective than Coates. Wisdom may stay until Jan if Kelly is a concern. Ilori gives us 2 players or every position and Wisdom as extra insurance for a couple of months.
Midfield is fine - 2 players for every position and only Alberto new to the club and league.
Up front we have a vacancy on the left to replace Assaidi with Ibe as a 7th player for 3 starting berths.
That's 23 players with replacements to come for
29 Aug 2013 16:49:16
Ed002, are you in Monaco for the draw? {Ed001's Note - she is in Monaco yes, I assume for the draw but I forgot to ask.}
Ed001, is ed002 your daughter? {Ed001's Note - considering Ed002 is old enough to be my great-grandfather, no she is not my daughter.}
Jeeezzus! Is Ed002 a he, a she or a goddamn deity who is both? So many different things said at different times lol. Kinda adds to his/her/His/Her mystique but jeez it's so confusing. HA {Ed001's Note - she has a lovely beard if that helps?
Ha ha, fair do's, so how old are you if you don't mind me asking? {Ed001's Note - 39 now, though I don't look my age. Unfortunately I look older.}
Ed001, I thought you were the founder of this site? Maybe I just assumed you were an older gentleman, but then again, facebook guy was a teenager when he set up that site. {Ed001's Note - I am the founder mate.}
Ed002 is a hermaphrodite {Ed001's Note - naw, she is a fully adjusted male.....}
Ed001 banter with Ed002 that he's a girl and old. It's all there in black and white.
Ed001, props to you and your team, I really thank you for founding this site and you keep coming back year after year for the abuse and mind numbing repetitve questions.
I couldn't imagine the hours you guys have to didcate to this site daily, thanks again. And please pass this on to Ed002 who I don't think likes me much after I proposed to him/her/it! {Ed001's Note - it is all worth it when there are good days and we all bask in the glory of a great win. Every time it becomes difficult, I just think back to watching us under Souness, suddenly this feels like a pleasant diversion in comparison to watching that!}
29 Aug 2013 16:48:45
Chelsea sign Eto'o were been linked with him for 12 years
Give it a rest! Please!
Phooey
If it's not Spurs, it's Chelsea stealing our targets.
Yep, another one we missed out on.
Yeah, FSG out.
Stop moaning for god's sake. Do you seriously expect us to sign every player that we go for? There are plenty of other clubs that are bigger than us, play in the CL and pay bigger wages. That's not BR or FSG fault. It goes back to years before them.
^^ to Janman. I was being sarcastic. Lol
29 Aug 2013 16:45:27
whooooaaaaa. what is going on? keep hearing people who are mathmeticians highlighting income from sales and wage savings, compared to acquisitions/loans and wages and it doesn't matter how you spin it, we have not spent a penny so far (I'm talking net/net).
There's the large sponsorships, new short deal, more TV money then previously and a huge savings on our debt interest.
Its great hearing we're 'going to be trying to make a couple of signings', but time's running out and we're being outspent by the likes of Norwich. We HAVE TO GET INTO THE TOP 4 THIS SEASON - with the players we have compared to our top four competition, how on earth are we expecting to compete. Love the club, but am really concerned about what is going on behind the doors. bring on Sunday!
The club spends money daily. Loss of something like £28M loss for FY 2012-2013 based off of projections and I guesstimated about £11M loss this FY the other day on a longer post (assuming no more incoming/outgoing players along with a lot of other guesstimates).
There is much more to the running of the club financially then how much we spent on transfers or make off of sales and that's not really how transfer fees are dealt with anyway (they're amortized over the length of the players contract) so the notion of 'net/net', while interesting, isn't really relevant as that's not the way the accounting works.
29 Aug 2013 16:19:30
every one is making the groin muscle pulled by Toure like its the end of his career. I pulled a groin muscle and enjoyed it so much I pulled it again
Don't think that was your muscle mate
Banter has been on top form today! WaltonRed!
I'm sure it was in the groin region ;0)!
Phooey
Walton
You made me laugh so hard I fell off my chair.
Fantastic!
Get quite a few of the muscle pullers on the utd page I reckon
29 Aug 2013 16:14:31
People saying they'd take Torres back need the heads examining. why would we be interested in a player who isn't even half as good as what he was for us in his first few seasons. Why would fans want him back when we have a player who looks like he will be challenging for the leagues top scorer, in Danny Sturrage. Let me guess because he's Spanish and his names not Danny.
We need a left sided, attacking player and a replacement for Suarez if he leaves. Torres is average at best and I'd rather have Andy Carroll tbh.
The club has said he won't be sold in England and apparently Suarez laughed at Chelsea but was impressed with Arsenal interest.
Because Torres is probably the only 'attacking' player we could sign right now :>
29 Aug 2013 16:07:39
Over on the LFC blogs and Voting polls page, I have jist posted a review on Alderweireld, Sakho, Ilori and Papadopoulos. Have a read, chuck me some feedback, and let me know if there is anybody else you want me to Review. Cheers Eds.
YNWAdam
Good read mate, I'd like ilori (good cover and pace) and Sakho to start as a beast! Alderwiereld being similar to Agger as you say makes me think we'd lack power aerially and Papa just a tad too expensive and injury prone for me.
Thanks for your effort.
29 Aug 2013 16:07:04
For those of you who check up on Yahoo's Eurobot you will see at around 13:00 they suggested Erikson is most likely to come to LFC and says 'we might finally get our man'
Just passing on and I would be surprised if it happens. Still personally much rather we looked at Turan but I guess for some reason that isn't going to happen.
Eds, In your opinion what is stopping teams bid for Arda? He obviously is quality. Is it his price? Seems strange if it is
Thanks as always {Ed001's Note - he is seen as a bit of a risk due to being seen as lightweight. Not sure if he is from what I have seen, but that was the reasoning I was given for deciding against buying him from within Liverpool before he moved to Atletico. I would think that view is still prevalent.}
Thanks for reply Ed 01
Seems a real shame to me. I'm no expert but would have thought being light weight is not good but if you are technically excellent with great touch, balance and movement it would not matter so much
Nevermind, thanks again!
He had a medical at spurs today. £9m accepted bid. Not going to us although can see Ayre bidding £8.9m
Why wouldn't that reason stop us blowing 15 mil on Joe Allen? It could also be suggested that Luis Alberto and Borini could also be placed in that bracket. Not looking to slate our players, just I am surprised that this would be the reason not to sign Turan when we clearly have a few in that mould recently brought into the squad. {Ed001's Note - how many injuries had those players suffered? That is what I mean by lightweight, he was seen as being injury prone due to being soft.}
Fair do's Ed, thanks for clarifying. Must admit I didn't realise Turan had a poor injury record, although Manchester United took that gamble with RVP and look how that turned out. {Ed001's Note - I actually have no idea what his injury record is like, that was just the reason I was given for us being wary of him in the past. I can only believe it is correct, as the person telling me was involved in the decision!}
29 Aug 2013 15:57:41
I'll be very pleased if the Ilori transfer rumours are true, but I've read that he's still recovering from an operation in July and not due to be available for a couple of weeks.
Is this true? My 'source' is transfermkt so may not be the most reliable!
Could this also be why the talks stalled a bit during August?
Finally, for those of you still lamenting the loss of Willian, there is another Willian, also, Brazillian, also 26 and also who pays LW. Wonder if we'll be in for him. ;-)
Z
29 Aug 2013 15:57:23
Hello eds just heard that Liverpool have bid £19.7m for Dynamo Kyiv's Andriy Yarmolanko, I've never seen him play or even heard off him shed any light please thanks ed. {Ed001's Note - I have barely seen him play myself, sorry.}
29 Aug 2013 15:55:47
Ed with some of the players going to spurs do you see Gilfi becoming available again? We know BR likes him, we know he suites his system coutinhio could stay left?
Also if we spend big on a left sided player and coutinhio moves central where do you see Suso's future? Cheers Ed {Ed001's Note - Sigurdsson is a central player, he was wanted to play the role Rodgers now wants Coutinho to be able to play. I don't see any need to add him, nor do I see a reason why he would want to swap their bench for ours on lower wages. Suso has his future in his hands. It all comes down to him performing well this season and forcing his way into the team for next year.}
29 Aug 2013 15:55:05
imagine Monday morning waking up and we're 5 points clear of utd and top of the league!
I think we're more likely to imagine it. and then wake up! Lol But I hope you're right!
With sakho and mata confirmed signings
Mata? someone is drunk again!
29 Aug 2013 15:48:37
Banter FAO Harry Scouser:
Harry my dear old thing, it's very gracious of you to inform me about having respect for others. Gracious and wonderfully amusing.
I'm sorry but I haven't heard of "Countinhom", "capue", or "Lamla" and Google has failed to help me in this regard.
I'm afraid old bean but your encyclopaedic knowledge of these footballing luminaries far outstrips mine.
Perhaps you could do a players profile page on Countinhom, Lamla and Capue for us lesser beings.
Toodle Pip
Ken
This constanting bitching between and whinging between harry the real ag and a few other fans gets a bit boring
29 Aug 2013 15:47:12
Just occured to me!
All these teams that are investing in quality players are wrong! They are all wrong and WE are right! We will see who finishes higher and in top4! Them or us! You will see! We will show that by not signing a winger that can go past defenders or a defender to replace Kolo! We will show everyone that just because FSG don't want to invest in the team, the TEAM will take care of itself! We will show that we don't need Eriksen or any other winger. We will show all these!
OR, we will realize that we were wrong, FSG were wrong not to invest in the team and BR who is a very very good coach (really mean this) will get the sharp end of fans' criticism!
Time will tell. WATCH THIS SPACE. YNWA {Ed001's Note - considering you don't even know what position Eriksen plays, I would have to wonder if you actually have any kind of clue about the game or if you are just looking for more reasons to whinge? After all, I have yet to see anything from you that isn't just mindless whining about nothing.}
So adding to the club's debt to satisfy your craving for big name signings then? Sounds like a good plan.
Before last season Eriksen did mainly play off the left in fairness {Ed001's Note - not as a winger, he has never ever played as a winger.}
We don't play with wingers.
29 Aug 2013 15:43:21
The Twits are getting agitated over this supposed Sahko move - can you confirm it's a no go so I can return to ignoring them?
29 Aug 2013 15:30:07
Liverpool fans have the right to voice their opinions on this site and if other LFC fans don't approve then tough human body waste!
We need investment in quality! Youth is great but there's no contest against experienced quality! BR's hands are tied and FSG are busy with their beloved baseball than football. Norwich have outspend us by the way. We are very similar to Arsenal, make bids but fail to sign and then to sign an older player on a free transfer!
Fans moan about Spurs because they will be a force! Time to become aware! Fans moan because they care! Fans who are constantly in a state of bliss and hush other fans about complaining worry me the most! Don't they care about what happens at LFC? We have a smaller squad now than last year! Wake up boys and girls!
I am awake and aware that the way to make a tree healthy and fruitful you must first cut out the dead wood and any parts of that are unproductive and draining resources before feeding and nourishing it. Sorry for the analogy, but we have over the last year moved predominantly older, high wage earners who either weren't performing or haven't fitted into the philosophy or style of the club under Brendan. Whilst we have already added young, hungry squad players on much lower wages that do, plus the experience of Toure, the window is still open and traditionally there is usually a hive of activity in the last few days before the window shuts. If September 2nd comes and goes without anymore additions to the squad I have to admit I would be a little disappointed, however Brendan has repeatedly stated that he wants to add quality and we have placed large bids on players already to suggest that the money is there for the "right targets" (not just ones that people on here would like to see). Wait until Christmas to see where we and Spurs are respectively before making judgements and in the mean time support the team.
As an American, nobody this season thought the Red Sox even had a chance at making the playoffs. Now, they are top of their division. FSG didn't even invest in the club that much, they got a new manager, and things smoothed out. You seriously don't know what you're talking about. I thought you were looking for the Arsenal page there for a bit.
Fans have a right to moan when things aren't going well. We haven't lost 1 game out of 3. What is there to moan about? We have a Damn good team, with some reinforcements needed in a few places. The window isn't closed yet. Tired of whiners.
Can you write some more posts please just in case I have trouble sleeping :-)
Does! mean you are shouting IranRed? I always imagine you shouting while you hammer your keyboard.
29 Aug 2013 15:29:32
Sorry another Spurs post
Is Mr Levy playing very risky game of poker with the sale of Bale? - as it looks like he is in the process of spending the Bale money already
Most transfer window activity (in my opinion - maybe wrong) is normally triggered by a big outlay for a player - this then release cash in to the market which enables a rush of transfer dealings. This is not the case with the really cash rich clubs like Man City and Chelsea within the Prem League they will spend anyway
If there was a plan with Madrid to hold the Bale deal until the last min of the window - this may stop the injection of cash in to the market
There is always the small risk that the deal will not go through therefore Real in particular will be reluctant to release players i.e.Benzema Di Maria or even Ozil therefore putting a hold on the market overall - the market needs the cash
This in effect may stop clubs like Arsenal, Manchester United strengthening which would be to Tottenham's advantage
Yes I know - too much time on my hands on a Thursday afternoon
29 Aug 2013 17:48:08
Or Madrid say to spurs,
"We don't want to pay all that money so now we will revise our offer to 65 million, take it or leave it."
calmdown
29 Aug 2013 15:27:49
I think there is a bit off truth in this!! To scared to go for top four as much as we can still achieve it we could ease the pressure on the squad and add quality. Not billions. 40 million would be the right amount to get 2/3 quality players.
29 Aug 2013 15:21:15
Yarmolenko joining for £19.7 million according to Sky Italia.
Echo reporting we have enquired about Joleon Lescott.
Several papers reporting we have agreed a £6.8 million deal for Ilori.
I will believe it when I see it, but good if true.
The echo themselves aren't reporting we have enquired about lescott, if you scroll further down thje page you will se they have copied the story of a website.
Rodgers has seen both Kolo Toure and Sebastian Coates suffer injuries and appears reticent to use Martin Skrtel, who was frozen out of first team action for much of the second half of the 2012/13 campaign, and this source believes £7.5m would be enough to bring in the Birmingham born defender.
Source: a web site
Makes Ilori and Moses on loan positively appealing? We ain't paying that for a 31 year old or that for a Ukrainian winger.
29 Aug 2013 15:11:35
WOW the transfer window is really speeding up for LFC. Rumours of Tiago Illori fee agreed, Sakho close to LFC (according to Di Marizo), Yarmalenko bid. Just add Konoplyanka and the window goes from piss poor to very good.
WOW just another day when we are linked with 20 players.
29 Aug 2013 14:59:20
Anyone know how long toure or Allen are expected to be injured for
Until he's fit again.
29 Aug 2013 14:57:31
Are the CB targets and Turan is attacking option.
Banter wise
Who do we think we are being the only team in the prem to have a 100% record without needing penalties to win.
29 Aug 2013 14:44:56
Hi Eds, why haven't we signed Christian Eriksen yet? It would really annoy me if he went to Tottenham, especially for around £10million. {Ed001's Note - because he doesn't want to join us.}
Ed I think it is more that we don't want him, than him not wanting us {Ed001's Note - we were interested initially this summer, but he started spouting off again and that is why he is only moving now, rather than early in the window. He put off most of the interest through his own gob.}
Nothing to do with mouthing off. Complete nonsense. He's too similar to Coutinho so our interest waned. We want a different type of attacker. We also have Alberto & Suso and may pursue interest in Hughes. {Ed001's Note - sorry but you are simply wrong. We were interested, then he opened his mouth with comments, they were not viewed favourably, not just by Liverpool, and most of the interested teams decided to look elsewhere. The fact that he is similar in position to Coutinho was just the icing on the cake, so to speak. It made us decide to just move him central and look for a left sided attacker instead.}
Oh not another Eriksen fanboy
29 Aug 2013 14:32:19
Mamadou Sakho has been shortened to 1/2 from 6/4 to join Liverpool.
29 Aug 2013 14:24:59
Liverpool have opened talks with Sporting Lisbon over Tiago Ilori and Ajax for Toby Alderweireld as the club look to strengthen their defensive options.
The Reds, who are already without the injured Martin Skrtel and Sebastian Coates, lost Kolo Toure to a groin problem this week and are short of centre back cover.
But manager Brendan Rodgers hopes to rectify that with the double signing of Sporting ace Illori and Ajax hard man Alderweireld.
Illori, a Portugal under-20 international, was born in London and is keen to try his hand in the Premier League after breaking through in Lisbon.
Liverpool are believed to be ready to offer £6million for his services, and believe he would accept a switch to Anfield over the Spanish clubs who are tracking him.
A deal for Alderweireld is more complicated, with Atletico Madrid and Roma both already in negotiations over a switch, but the player has admitted his desire to play for Liverpool before - and that could be key.
Liverpool are expected to put in a £10million bid before the weekend, but consider PSG's Mamadou Sakho as another option if the transfer doesn't go ahead.
Source: Metro
29 Aug 2013 16:23:57
According to dutch media, they are claiming alderweirald will wait till a big team comes in for him!! Insulting!
Is Skrtel injured?
I thought he was going to start at the weekend?
Phooey
29 Aug 2013 14:11:26
If we haven't made at least 2 more good quality signings before the window closes, Liverpool have pretty much no chance of that top 4.
Gutted :(
29 Aug 2013 14:04:23
is this guy yarlemenko [ spelling ] any good, is he worth near 20 million as reports in italy saying we are in for him at 19 odd million. i'm stumped as I don't anything about him . {Ed030's Note - I like him but I don't value him at anywhere near £20m. }
29 Aug 2013 16:26:12
According to Schevchenko. Yarmolenko is the next big thing.
Voted Ukraine' best player . looks very good. Strong, good feet, knows where the goal is, and plays with a bit if a swagger.
Sign him Brendan!
All a bit subjective, but he's 1 year younger than Mkhitaryan and 2 years younger than Willian.
Comparing their stats (from the same league):
Willian: 221 apps, 37 goals, 63 assists. Rate: .452
Mkhitaryan: 151 apps, 61 goals, 35 assists. Rate: .636
Yarmolenko: 186 apps, 58 goals, 36 assists. Rate: .505
Rate = (ass+goal)/apps
Yarmolenko doesn't fare too badly when compared with Willian, but is not at quite the level of Mkhitaryan. Agreed with the Ed that £20M seems high, maybe more like £16M would seem a good deal, but he clearly does have some potential for both goals and assists and is likely much better value for money than Willian.
Agree with Ed.
I am an avid fan of both Yarmalenko and Konoplyanka (as you can see from my posts) but 20M is too much for him especially as he is in the last year of his contract. 12M pounds should be more than enough to get him.
Kono's contract expires in December this year aswell, his agent has been trying to get him a move to the Prem. Hopefully we can get him on the cheap.
His agent also graduated from John Moores University as an added little tidbit
Konoplyanka on a pre-contract for January would be exceptional business, I think. Not sure why no one has done so already, to be honest.
29 Aug 2013 14:27:37
Few reports floating about that we've bid for Andriy Yarmolenko from Shaktar? Any truth or news on this Eds at all and what's ypur opinion of him. Odds slashed to 2/5 now?
He plays for Dynamo Kyiv not Donetsk
29 Aug 2013 13:54:52
Rather than the club look for someone for example say Moses on loan, would it not be wiser to rotate Sterling & Ibe? After injuries against notts county looks like we are in need of a centre back this window.
29 Aug 2013 13:22:49
Liverpool will bid 22 million euro for Dynamo Kiev winger, Andriy Yarmolenko. The 23 year old will subsequently have a medical at Spurs, before finalizing a deal at Chelsea!
Nah but seriously, reports are saying that Yarmolenko is a target.
29 Aug 2013 13:05:37
Eds
Why is it that when we hear reports about potential transfers, we hear that other clubs have made bids but our beloved LFC always seem to be "preparing" bids.
Do we have a complicated management structure which prevents bids being made quickly or, as a lot of posters seem to be suggesting, are we just penny pinching? {Ed001's Note - neither, it is just media bull, most of the time they talk of a bid being made when no such thing has happened. What they are usually referring to is a club making an enquiry or informing a club of interest and letting them know they are going to put an offer together, so the potential selling club can say ok we would be interested in hearing it or sod off we are not going to sell you him. It is best to just assume that the media are clueless in their use of terms and just use the one they think sounds most sensational.}
29 Aug 2013 13:00:57
So not bothered by Spurs buys. They have practically a totally new team who have not played together.
This is after last year when they bought Sigurdsson, Vertonghen, Dempsey, Dembele, Holtby, Lloris, Adebayor, Fryers. Add to that Paulinho, Chadli, Soldado, Capoue and Lamela from this year.
That's 13 players!
All of whom would expect to be in the starting line up!
And this isn't taking in to account the players who were already there.
This is panic due to them losing Bale.
Their first real test comes this weekend against Arsenal. It will be interesting to see how they get on.
Also, why would anyone buy Eto'o? Huge wages and huge fee for a mercenary who is way past his best.
We just need to focus on our team and support our players.
We've got the youngest, quickest, most exciting squad in the premiership.
Even if we lose on sunday, 6 points out of 9 is still miles better than were we where last season.
And we are playing good football.
Good times ahead for us.
Exactly my friend. Been saying the same thing myself.
I think they may have bought too many too soon but it is anything but panic buying. Levy has been waiting for this for years he smalls blood at the emirates and change at Manchester United this is his play to be regular champ league club. let's stop wringing about them and see how it goes they have planned well for all this
Good point - I can't recall a time in recent history when a team has bought a full squad of top quality players and had success.
Good players (especially those without massive egos) will play well together. They are brought in to play under AVB's system. Other players have been moved on.
They have probably paid over the odds for a few players early on, but that is a statement of intent, which effectively enabled them to recruit other top talents by action, not just lip service about a plan and a project.
They will be solid across the pitch and have depth in quality at most of their attacking positions.
I don't consider free a "huge fee" for Eto'o; although I do agree their present options are probably better. And if they were to go for an elderly striker on a one year deal, they should have just gone in for Drogba.
Personally - I believe in BR - and I think we will be in a fight for 4th with United and Arsenal. But I believe Spurs are possibly in a position to fight for the league with Citeh and Chelsea.
Nice to see some post still make sense, nice one mate.
29 Aug 2013 18:43:15
The huge fee is the signing on fee that he will believe he deserves
29 Aug 2013 12:47:30
Any of the Liverpool eds or ed02 (I know you don't really like these questions though) are you worried about suarez coming back into the squad? as it's looking like he will be staying with us. I think we are more fluid without him and as ed02 says he will bring the moral down. I really think he will pull us down unfortunately. Hope i'm wrong though would love to hear your opinion. {Ed001's Note - I am more bothered about the effect he will have on our play, he tends to hog the ball, when we have done so well by playing more as a team. Even Gerrard, who we all know just how good he has been, is looking better for not having to be the go to man. The whole team is raising its game, rather than just looking to constantly find one man. I fear that would revert back to it being about Suarez again. While that is great when the go to guy is on fire, no one player can play like that every game. The great sides are those that you look at and can't just concentrate on blocking off one or two players because there are 7 or more players capable of hurting you. We are beginning to get to that position, with Henderson looking dangerous going forward, Sturridge scoring for fun, Aspas always looking on the verge of getting off the mark, Coutinho capable of a piece of magic, Toure from a set piece, Gerrard can always hit a screamer or break through on goal, even our fullbacks are very capable of scoring. I would like to see that kept, but I don't see that happening with Suarez in, to such a degree, as he overshadows others.}
Thank you for the reply ed much appreciated! I do agree with you that he seems to hog the ball and is the go to guy. I'm just hoping the team has gained the confidence to know that everyone is good enough to compete against anyone and not just suarez. {Ed001's Note - you can never tell until they play together again, but he seems far too big a personality to settle for being just a part of the team, rather than the focal point.}
29 Aug 2013 13:21:45
I hate all this correspondence about Spurs, it's a classic case of impatient fans ignoring what's happening on the pitch and concentrating on transfer activity which is, at the minute, basically irrelevant. I think we're really close to Spurs, as shown by our first two games of the season as compared to theirs, all 1-0 wins with our respective main strikers scoring all the goals, I'd say we've played better than them so far in the league, and haven't needed dodgy penalties to get us results as they have. If you would rather concentrate on transfers than what's happening on the pitch then you should firstly reconsider how you show your support to the team, but secondly think about this - if Spurs sign their targets, how would their line-up compare to ours, player by player? I think it would be very even, and if we can sign a left-winger as we'd like to, then once Suarez returns we'd have a slight edge. Everyone worried about how great Paulinho supposedly is, would you take him over Gerrard? I know I wouldn't. Just because the media is ridiculously talking about Spurs as title contenders doesn't mean we need to get all green-eyed about them.
Suarez doesn't want to ply for us, so don't expect the same player as last season IF he stays.
The Notts County game should give you an idea as to why most are looking at Spurs. We lost 3 players to an already thin squad. Lst seasons top four were/are already stronger than us, so with Spurs window so far you'd now put them as a top four place.
What really makes anyone think we're better than Arsenal? They are in the CL for the 16th season in a row. Even if they do not spend this window, what could they attract with a massive wallet in Jan IF they are just outside top four? I know what we're likely to get in Jan if we're not in top four.
Exactly. Sturridge>Soldado/Defoe
Coutinho>Eriksen, all of their midfield for that matter
Bale>Tottenham
Suarez, hungry but > Tottenham.
Agger/Toure>vertonghen.
Johnson basically = walker
Gerrard/Lucas>Paulinho/Dembele.
They may have a stronger left wing. Big deal.
This is exactly the way to look at it mate. Pound for pound we are far better off. Financially too. Some of the prices they pay are a little over the top. We keep getting the deals.
29 Aug 2013 13:15:45
Christian Eriksen has signed for Spurs for only £12 Million, Why did we not sign him if he was that cheap?
Maybe we didn't want him
Yes we should buy every player if he 's deemed as going cheap even if the manager does'nt want him or thinks he would fit into his plans
We have Coutiho. He's better, he's cheaper so quit moaning
Eds surely Liverpool cannot sign all players deemed good and available. I am of the opinion that he is a more skilful version of Joe Allen. {Ed001's Note - apparently if Liverpool don't sign every single player that the fans once signed on FIFA/FM or that has a great video on youtube, then it is a reason for thousands of posts whining about how we missed out on them.}
Just a guess, but we weren't interested?
I believe the answer is in the question really. If he's as good asthey say why so cheap and why weren't there lots of clubs after him?
To be honest I have only seen him a couple oftimes and he didn't Impress, but could have had bad games then. Time will tell?
We weren't interested? No No. We don't have to be interested. We are LFC. We can just bid 60 million pounds for every player on the market. That's what some fans want!
29 Aug 2013 12:51:15
On the 01 Aug I posted the following:
"My view of the current fan's mindset. The financial prudence, cost cutting and low cost player replacements. Sensible financial management of a enterprise that is cash flow poor due to owners conscious decision or just not as wealthy as they would like to be. Manager Saying Liverpool's best summer "signing" could be Gerrard. Strategy to prospect and speculate on players rather than buy a 1st team finished article. Pressure to get CL football to generate much needed cash and prestige but competing against cashed up top 5 and ambitious upper mid table teams. Fans mentally split as we know it is common sense to run a business sensibly and not borrow.
However we are LFC, massive global supporter base, iconic brand, illustrious history so why can't we be more ambitious? Star player Gerrard even quoted as saying "If we get the couple of marquee signings we need and keep Luis that will give me confidence that we can compete. Keeping Luis could be our best signing of the summer." We are all confused. We need clarity on the strategy, we either have the funds or we don't. LFC need to just either spend on "marquee" players as Gerrard put it or just say that this is not are strategy. Instead there is all this speculation that is frustrating for fans and players as we do not know if we can play with the big boys but chose not to or we want to play with the big boys but can't."
Just 4 days to go and not much has changed since I posted this. I completely understand the financial prudence strategy but let us then all realign our expectations. Forget winning the league which used to be our number one priority let's just aim for 5th or 6th. Spending money does buy a greater chance of success, this is football where very few clubs turn a profit, clubs are run by rich benefactors that get their money back when they sell the club as the value will go up due to the success. We need FSG to find additional investment whether borrowing or new partners to be more successful. I know we wasted millions already but that was due to obscene bad judgement buying over rated british players that boarded on negligence, all businesses make mistakes, they just sack the people involved and move forward with new plans. If we don, t spend we will just become like Arsenal. a perfect example where selling your players for profit wins you nothing. I hate being so negative but when you see 95,000 people on the other side of the planet at the MCG for a trial match, you know what the clubs potential is but it is not being matched by the owners.
AGREE! Finally someone else sees this.
LFC are massive they are one of the top clubs in world football and we're being run and treated like a mid table side with such small ambition that most on here are fully accepting.
Shankly would turn in his grave knowing we're raving about beating Stoke and Notts County, hoping to finish 4th. Wow, just read that and think for a bit. {Ed001's Note - please don't try and tell us what Shanks would think, as you clearly are one of the people who was referring to with his famous, "if you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win" quote. Perhaps you should think on that before using the great man's name in vain. Oh and stop being such a disrespectful knob regarding other clubs! Every win is a result to be celebrated, no matter who against, just like every loss is a disappointment.}
Well done! Banter of the month, excellent post!
You don't buy a Bentley and keep it locked up in the garage.
Waldo09 {Ed001's Note - most people do exactly that when they own a Bentley actually. Same with Ferraris etc, they very rarely get used regularly.}
United makes nearly double our turnover on an annual basis and even Arsenal makes +£50M or so more than us. It's never going to be anything but difficult (although not impossible) for us to break back into the top 4- that's simple reality, no realignment of expectations required.
Anything short of another Sheikh Mansour or Abramovich is not going to be able to spend near enough to drastically change this and FSG certainly isn't going to as it would likely end up with massive debt put on the club (either through additional no-interest loans via UKSV or extending the existing bank loan) and our debt is already going to increase with more losses for FY 2012-2013, likely more losses this year, and even more significantly once we start looking at £100M-£150M in borrowing to finance the stadium expansion.
To say that the owners are not matching LFC's potential is ridiculous. LFC needs to match it's own potential and the way forward there is to quit losing so much money on player transfers. In the past 4 years or so, we've made more than £1M net on exactly 3 transfers-
Torres, Ngog, and Shelvey.
That's it. Everyone else was either sold at a loss or a gain of less than £1M and this is the single biggest problem we have and it simply has to stop as it's absolutely killing us, particularly when it comes to funding new transfers in.
29 Aug 2013 12:41:07
Hi Eds and fellow reds. I have followed this site for a couple of seasons and respect the honesty from the vast majority of posters. I am Just a tad concerned that after a positive start to the window we are now running around and linked to players who genuinely are not good enough to get a game with their clubs! Why did we let downing go before we had a quality replacement? Eriksen is destined for London, Chelski are buying Atsu for £3+ mil yet were looking to borrow Moses for £2mil? What the hell has happened again? After all the world class players we have been linked with were now looking at Moses! I really do believe that the supporters have more ambition for this club than the owners have and as a lifelong red I fear that top 4 is as far away now as it ever was! YNWA Sorry to be negative but I need to get it out of my system!
I'll take a moment to remind people that both Sturridge and Courtino could not get games for their respective clubs before joining LFC. I don't hear people describing them as 'not good enough' right now.
Add Toure to that list too.
29 Aug 2013 21:12:26
Moses is neither improvement on Sterling/Ibe nor the pacey, left sided, goal getter we're after. He'll be a useless addition.
29 Aug 2013 12:40:24
Eds, what's been going on at Liverpool this summer, early doors there was talk of a big transfer kitty, squad improvement etc, but we're now in late Aug, the players brought in have been either direct replacements for 1st 11 players leaving (mignolet/toure) or have been squad players. I don't think any money have actually been spent at all. Is there's something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about (thinking FSG realising they're out of their depth and thinking about selling)?
All this talk of zero spend this summer fails to take account of agent's fees, signing on fees (do you really think Toure was completely free?), paying off Downing (he didn't ask to go after all), taxes etc. Just adding up 'we sold him for 5 mill and we bought him for 5 mill, so that's zero spend', is little better than made up numbers.
29 Aug 2013 12:31:36
I see the media has gone wild. Since Toure's injury I've seen us linked with; Sakho, Alderweireld, Ilori, Papadopoulos, Montoya and Rami.
Jesus Christ, he's strained his groin, he's not dead!
If reports are to be believed, we are readying a bid for Sakho, have entered discussions over Alderweireld, we have had a bid accepted for Ilori, we have re-entered negotiaitons for Papadopoulos, and we are considering bidding for Montoya and Rami. I mean, yeah we need a centre back or two, but not 6!
I'm going to be hopeful and say we'll get Sakho and Ilori, and accept Napoli's next bid for Skrtel. I also see us signing Moses, or (hopefully) Turan. I doubt Suarez will leave, but I've just booked the 2nd off work incase he does! that would set up an absolutely crazy deadline day!
Another thing guys, drop the Spurs fascination. I actually found myself doing my job this morning as this site was boring me!
YNWAdam
IB Times just reported AC Milan has dropped interest in Sakho.
29 Aug 2013 12:24:55
Is it just me or does the club seem reluctant to spend and meet asking prices. Could this have anything to do with saving money for if we do get back into Champs League and spend big next year meaning no exiciting signings this term? Seems tottenham are getting all the talent this window.
We met asking prices on Aspas, Alberto and Mignolet.
I think our owners are taking the option of running the club in a financially responsible manner as opposed to the wreckless spend option.
I doubt Spurs net spend will be much different to ours on September 4th.
It may have escaped your attention but Tottenham have got £94M in through the door, so they can afford to go around buying up half the world. And why should we meet people's asking prices when they are over-inflated to start with. Would you be happy if we trebled the cost of tickets to fund a spending spree lie Tottenham. I am guessing not!
Their wage bill in 2012 was around 90m, ours was 119m (albeit on slightly higher turnover, but their bill was 63% of turnover, ours was 70%). Plus we've had to pay off old managers etc, and they're selling the Welsh one for an insane pile of cash. Besides, if you read the accounts you can see it's not a question of saving money, it's a question of stopping the losses (which have been *immense*) and living within our means. We've trimmed players out of the squad who never played but were certainly paid. People complain that this is asset stripping - it's not, it's just getting the club to the point where it's not leaking money like a sieve. If we get replacement players who are better than what we have for minimal expense and get rid of people who would never have played anyway, I really don't see that as a problem.
I agree buddy - much respect to you. YNWA
29 Aug 2013 12:18:09
I think people need to take a 'chill pill' and relax a little, yes BR said that he would bring in quality, but to be honest i'd be happy with just one defender i.e Sakho I think since last season we have improved quite considerably, and to be honest i'm sick of all this moaning and b***hing about our current situation also stop fighting one another, we are unified under the great banner of our beloved club! so let's support our boys!
29 Aug 2013 11:53:21
Hello fellow reds!
I have a quick question for all out there to answer?
I personally think this is the most compeditive year I have ever seen the prem. With the amounts of money being spent, the talent and quality across the league I genually think it is a massive ask for BR to make top 4! And for me if Liverpool finish above just one of Arsenal, chels, manu, mancity or tots we would finish 5th and that is definately an inprovment from the last two years.
I know he said top 4 is the target but if 5th was the case at the end of the year would the fans or rather do the fans have a write to call for BRs head when he is definately moving the club forward?
Looking forward to hearing your opinions?.
29 Aug 2013 12:17:28
No. the question would be how many points off the 4th spot. finishing 5th with in 2-3 points would be a huge improvment. but 15 points off the 4th place and just above westbrom or everton would be pretty average.
Imo opinion if we finish 5th then that's still progress. so that will be the 2nd year of doing so.as long as the board feel the same then can't see why they would get rid of br.i personally wouldnt.definately feel top 4 is achievable this season but agree its a lot more competative
No. Not Brendens fault.
Look at the class of players available this window for the positions required at LFC.
Top class CL playing, title winning CB's and wingers, attacking midfielders.
Players like Alderwield for under £8m, Eriksen for £9m, Turan, Lamela. Top players
It will only be FSG and Ian Ayre that stop us getting top 4/CL football.
BR is woeking magic on the pitch, has stated what is missing, its out there. We've spent nothing, reduced the thin squad and still over expect.
As I've said, they have bought a Ferrari and now cannot afford the petrol to drive it. LFC are one of the biggest clubs in world football and we're Ecstatic about beating Stoke and Notts County. Awesome.
I think 5th would be the beat we could hope for with our current squad.
It would show improvement, on and off the pitch, as well as setting us up for another, more realistic push for top four the following season, with our youngsters hopefully fulfilling any potential by then, and further investment, set in motion with our shrewd business acumen.Hopefully.
Its a 38 game league.
lfc has a paper thin squad. and there will be injuries. as we saw against notts county.
if u play sturridge 20 games straight he will die. same for coutinho and same for agger and toure. gerrard might too
so its about the games in which these players won't be available. let's say there are in all 10 games in which either of above mentioned ain't available. please read I say either not all
if we win/draw those games we will be pretty on around 3rd 4th in the table . I am confident
if we loose them that is 30 points gone
and we are 7th or 8th . worse still 10th maybe.
so its all about the sterlings the ibe's the kelly's the wisdom's the allen's and the alberto's the borini's(oh rubbish not borini that worries me) stepping up there game. all of them are quality. they will have these 10 games to define lfc's season ( obviously these 10 games in which either one will start depending on which one is injured /rested)
so that's that
if the bench steps up and shows its worth we will be in cl
else it will be gloomy at anfield .
remember as it has shown the cardiff's the astonvilla's the fulham's the swansea's and the west brom's are no moveovers.
and all that is when we have our top squad firing all guns every match.
if they fail, then well.
Its the million dollar question Beefy. I think it depends how we improve. If the youngsters all look to be moving forward, we can say the model is working and in a few years we will be there or thereabouts. However, if we squeak 5th, partly because other teams don't perform, then you have to look at it differently. Big year for BR but I don't think it should be the defining one for his future at LFC.
I would keep BR even if we finish 5th or 6th as long as we are not 20 ore more points away from the top of the league. This would be a realistic target and an improvement.
It's about closing the gap, not achieving irrealistic targets. It's not about the money we or others spend, it's about the quality of the group. And I think our group has a lot of quality, but other groups also do have the same or more quality.
Npe I think he has really improve the team so I would not call for his head.besides Liverpool needs stability, and constant saking wold not bring champ league.
I agree this year is far more competitive than before with the vast amounts of money being spent, we all know we can forget the top 2 as it will be between Man Cty & Chelsea, that leaves 3rd & 4th up for grabs and its between Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal & Spurs.
Utd will be strong no matter what, if they can keep RVP injury free than you'd imagine they would get a CL place regardless of what happens with Shrek or the transfer market as players that would have joined them if Fergie was stil there have gone elsewhere, Strootman, Thaigo etc.
Liverpool have trimmed the squad and wage bill enormously and have only brought in 4 players, 2 in Mignolet & Toure that have replaced Reina & Carr, the other 2 are squad players, Liverpool have not really spent a penny as what they have spent they have recouped from the sales of Downing, Shelvey & Carroll. Its pretty obvious that we need a CB as we've got Coates out for the season, Kelly not match fit, Toure injured, Skrtel allegedly injured & Wisdom needed a season long loan, hopefully Sakho & Ilori will arrive with Skrtel stil looking likely to leave, Hopefully we get this quality signing that Rodgers keeps going on about for the left not sure who as of yet and if we can keep Suarez and Sturridge stays injury free than i'm expecting us to pinch 4th Spot as we are not in Europe this season so will be focusing 100% on the League.
Arsenal in my view will not spend big amounts of money, I personally feel that Wenger is flexing his muscles as why bid over £40M for Suarez when he knew he had no chance of getting him and should of pursued Higuain who they also reportedly bid for and he was very close to a move but than he change transfer targets, Wenger likes to buy young kids not experience and its experience Arsenal need to get into the top 4 although they will be in and around there I expect them to miss out this year and Wenger to get replaced next season.
Spurs as we all know are spending the Bale money extremely well, i'm not sure on Paulinho as no one had heard of him until he the Confederations Cup and he has been playing in a poor Brazilian league so only time will tell if he is a good buy or not, Chadli & Capoue are squad players but good squad players, Soldado is a serious goal threat and poacher keep him fit and as long as he adapts well then he will be a big success, than you have Lamela who is the stand out buy of the lot by a mile he is a very good player and certainly one to watch out for he has all the attributes to be a major player in the game he has pace, vision, dribbling abilities, goals and skill in his locker a very good buy and a good direct replacement for Bale, and lastly you have the impending arrival of long term Liverpool target Eriksen he is a good player but like Paulinho has played in a poor League, weather he can make the step up remains to be seen but he is a very good young player where he will fit in i'm not so sure as Spurs have too many midfielders already at the club and his best position is off the striker, if they gel together than they will be a big big threat to the CL places, but like Arsenal I think they will miss out as they always have a good start to the season and fade away or visa versa.
Ha ha ha Beef curtains. what a name!
29 Aug 2013 11:46:39
Was havin' a gander on twitter and Titi Camara is on there, still got Liverpool in his heart and throwing around some banter about the Everton badge! Ha what a guy. Regardless of our club being in a lesser position that it is used to in recent years the following and passion it seems to inspire in both fans and ex-players is brilliant, so happy I was brought up a Liverpool fan.
29 Aug 2013 11:44:52
Have to ask a question, one which will invite all sorts of abuse from the dreamers who think top class players will come to LFC.
What makes people believe a quality CB ie:- Sakho or Illori, will come to LFC to be a bit part player - Toure ( apart from current injury ) and Agger are our first choice pairing, we then currently have back up in Skrtel, Wisdom and Kelly, the only player currently available that I would try and sign would be Alderweireld, who can play CB (Ajax) or FB (Belgium).
Same goes for another top class striker, we again currently have Sturridge, Aspas, Saurez ( at the moment ) and Borini ( injured ), and maybe Yesil.
Forget what Spurs have done - they will have more games ( Europa ) and will also have some very dissatisfied players when they don't get enough games, Dempsey only lasted a season.
The only position, IMO that we could accommodate with a guarantee of a regular start is a LW/RW sort of player, although we also have back up in that position currently, albeit youngsters.
I don't know the answer but I suspect it's the same reason as Spurs buying dozens of 'so-called' quality midfielders without any Champions league or recent success in any competition or any league titles for what, 50 years?
Its Ian Ayres job to sell the club, one of the biggest clubs in world football to these type of players. If he ever actually bid an acceptable figure then he'd be able to try this.
Players of this quality have moved to teams outside of the CL, see Spurs.
Players of this level believe they are the best so they expect to force their way into the first team and then stay there.
From what I'm reading Ilori deal is agreed on by both clubs, just finalizing it with the personal incentives. I have never seen him play, don't know how good he is.
Toure won't be first choice if we sign one of them
29 Aug 2013 11:33:20
Does anybody know how long kolo is out
I am thinking 4 weeks give or take.
Out or In, I'd say fairly long ;-)
I'm just waiting for Brendan's pre-UTD presser to find out, there is nothing on the LFC websites 60 second round up .
29 Aug 2013 11:25:53
I have a strange feeling Utd are going to #FreeShinji and set him loose against us this weekend. Obviously his lack of game time could spur him on. Great attacking player and good at linking up with the centre forward. Hopefully Sturridge can do the damage at the other end.
Not worried about them, let them worry about our players.
Free a player who hasn't hit form in a full year should we just unleash borini?
Lucas will absolutely murder kagawa. he is lightweight.
on flanks enrique will beat him.
though johnson is not a player I want against him.
and btw if kagawa plays will rooney play?
i am more concerned about RVP though.
he can score something outrageousout of nothing and that could well be our undoing
I love the way they are wasting him, don't know how good a player they have
Dangerous player though, he didn't win player of the year in Germany, twice, for nothing. But then again if they play Cleverley it should help us. I see him as a weak link
29 Aug 2013 11:20:35
I remember 2 years ago when we were in Spurs position, we were the big spenders and everything seemed great. We had just bought Suarez and Carroll in the January window, then in the summer we had bought Henderson, Downing, Enrique, Coates and Adam.
Henderson was the next best English Central midfielder, Downing was the natural winger we had always lacked, Coates was the best young central defender in South America, Adam was meant to balance the midfield because he was left footed and Enrique was replacing Konchesky so everyone loved him.
This resulted in an 8th place finish and the manager losing his job. Just because you spend the most money doesn't mean you will be the most successful team.
£30 million for Lamela, a 21 year old who plays in the Italian League, is a big risk.
£26 million for a 28 year old striker who has never played outside Spain is a gamble and you will never recoup that money.
With Erikson, you have to ask why has no big team come in for him up to this point. I have watched the Dutch League and he is a special player but lightweight, 1 hard tackle and he is missing the rest of the game, not ideal for the EPL.
There is no doubting that Spurs have a strong squad now and are better placed to finish above us. However there is no guarantees and if they don't get Champions League this season I would love to know how Levy will pay all those high wages, expect a fire sale and the Bale money to be wasted.
I am happy with Liverpools transfer window so far and if we can buy a CB (Sakho) and an attacking player (Turan), as well as keeping hold of Suarez, our team will be competitive all season. The only difference between us and Spurs last season was Bale.
I have to agree that Turan and Sahko would be perfect at this stage. Eriksen isn't worth the risk, even for about 10million. But it really is the two positions mentioned that the club need to do anything to strengthen - I am keeping everything crossed that we will all be happy on Monday. Arda would be an idol at LFC.
Good post mate
JFT96
Stop fretting about them. They need to add players to their squad, they are still weak up front and who is to say the new guys will settle, they have yet to score from open play in league and won a game with a penalty that came from cheating. People seeing them as title contenders? Get a grip.
Jay 91, I am a spurs supporter (not looking for a fight) I just wonder if your post is biassed because some of your descriptions of the players we have bought and your signings are not fully accurate.
lamela is known to everyone in football as the next big thing, serie a is a great league in the top 4 of the world boasting teams like juve inter ac milan and he scored 15 goals in 33 games with assists as well that was from the wings. he is an excellent player
soldado at 28 we were never looking to recoup the money we wanted goals to get us into the champs league, if we had him last year we possibily would be there now, he has played in many countries(internationals) and in the area he plays and what he does will only be affected by his team players not the oppositions, if he gets good service he scores goals that is why he is in the spanish national side no.1 in the world
you all thought erikson was good enough for the epl when you were hping to sign him.
as for the players Liverpool signed well unfortunately they were badly scouted and did end up being a waste of money which unfortunately you are paying for now. the wages we are paying are not big (lamela 65k reportedly) so if we didn't make champs league at first time of asking we would still be able to afford their wages, don't forget levy is very shrewd and would not take any risks at all.
what we do agree on is that bale did make a huge difference to us last year but in all honesty with recent signings do you think we will miss him. I think good business with a potential amazing future at whl.
this is in no way a gloat as all we have ever done is watch other teams (including you) purchase players when we wanted them but levy never stumped up the cash
If you think Lamela will fail, prepared to let down bad. Anyone could see he is brilliant. Eriksen has a higher chance of failure but It won't happen. People say he's not athletic but look at Alonso.
Soldado will fail IMO, I was livid when I thought we would sign him.
But Liverpool have NO excuse for not bidding for EL or CE. If the scouts didn't like them we need new scouts simple.
Ok, we're not scoring vast numbers of goals ourselves (yet!), but Spurs, for all the froth and envy, only got 6 points in their last 2 games because of 2 slightly dodgy penalties. They've got some great players, but so have we. And you know what, half of ours came from the academy and didn't cost tens of millions. Why is that a bad thing?
For me, Lamela is massively overrated and for the price paid represents poor value. He scores as many goals per minute as Borini did and, at least last year, a good chunk of them were due to absolutely awful defending rather than anything he specifically did. Guess we'll see, but I just don't see any way he was worth the price you paid.
On that note, Paulinho is absolute class though and easily the best signing for Spurs. The rest are very meh in my opinion.
29 Aug 2013 11:15:23
I suppose a question to the eds.
With all the interest in Ilori do you also rate his teammate Eric Dier?
Personally, I rate Dier higher and he is a cracking CDM too. But at only 18 he is probably not ready for frist team football yet.
And what about the other lad, Bruma, is it? The winger? {Ed001's Note - Bruma, yes, top class. Dier is pure potential, right now he is not a player I would want in the first team, but he does look like he can be a top player in the future.}
Thanks Ed.
So would you say Bruma could play first team for us? Would you pick him over Sterling for instance? {Ed001's Note - it is difficult to compare the two, with them playing in such different leagues, but Bruma does look to be further advanced in his development. Still not sure he is ready to be regular first choice, but we have Sterling and Ibe to rotate in that position, with Coutinho available to move out there if need be. So it could work for us.}
Bruma for the left wing ed or is he set to move elsewhere? {Ed001's Note - I don't believe he is moving to us, it was a question about his ability not the chances of him joining us. It would be a major shock if we signed him.}
29 Aug 2013 10:58:50
When BR said that we had bought players to better the squad and will now concentrate on bettering the 1st team, am I wrong in thinking that most managers will better the 1st team then better the squad? I have feeling that FSG had no intention of buying quality players at the asking prices that's why we always bid way under the asking price knowing that they will not be accepted or another team will come in and pay up. Its all a con to show us that they are serious when in fact they are not. Without Champions league we will end up lower and lower in the league. that's where the money will come from to fund quality players. Those of you who say that we don't want to be like city chelsea and utd by buying the league are living in the past, if you want to win the league you need to pay big money to get the best players just as Spurs are doing now (albeit with bale money). Yes you can say support the team but I bet when we are mid table you lot will come on here ranting and raving why we didn't spend money.
Morning Mr T.
FSG are a business and therefore the last thing they want is for LFC to start finishing further and further down the table. Spurs are buying because they have 90m from the inevitable Bale sale, and City are owned by one of the richest families in the world (its like a game of fifa to them). Why not wait until at least Christmas before you start complaining and moaning. United and Arsenal haven't spent yet, Chelsea are not exactly throwing cash around either.
Perhaps you should look back at some of our past transfer dealings and look ahead to the new financial fair play regulations to work out why we are operating carefully in this transfer window.
I think FSG have EVERY intention of buying quality but not all for the NOW.
Well buisness is bad in the world scene for now.
and things are just dropping. lfc is an asset for FSG. but they don't want to invest like persons because they want to increase the debt on lfc . also they talk to the manager about players he wants. BR seems content with the squad. if u want absolute big signings u need managers that can attract them.
BR cant, I am not undermining BR at all. he is a great manager . but not when it comes to sttracting new top faces
lets consider willian- he likes the club. he knows he will start here for sure. but he chooses chelsea? obviously its jose. and money too. then there's london charm.
similar with mickey and perhaps others we loose.
i don't thinks BR sells the club, he just manages it. he wants player that just want to play for club. not money not manager. players that want to play for themselves and Liverpool.
and he is doing a great job
all his players give there absolute everything on the pitch. nothing more we can ask for.
It must be a hard job constantly getting slated by fans even when you are doing a brilliant job. I pity the fool.
29 Aug 2013 10:58:34
Hi all
how woud fans fel if we were to get papa and yarmolenko?
Would solve our aerial probs at the back and instill some pace and trickery up front.
Then I wouldn't be averse to putting in cheeky bid for gareth barry!
Not hiks biggest fan but would provide experienced cover for lucas, allow gerrard
to move forward when needed and give us options if injury scenario like tues happened again
Papa's knee went in training the other day I think. We have bid 23million euros for Yarmolenko according to the reliable Di Marzio
Is this the same Di MArzio that said mkhitaryan had signed or was about to sign for us.
Lets see it when it happens
This is one news I am hoping Di Marzio is wrong on. Yes I like Yarmalenko and Konoplyanka but spending 23M euros on him will be poor. He is in the last year of his contract. Personally feel 20M euros will be enough to get both Yarmalenko (12-15) and Konoplyanka (4-8).
I think it will be Ilori and Yarmolenko
29 Aug 2013 10:52:32
Isn't it funny How everyone thinks lamela will be the signing of the year for spurs when his goal scoring record at the same club ( roma) is actually not that different to borini when
He was at Roma. I think lamela is overrated myself, good player but world class? No.borini actually scored almost the same goals in less games. This isn't me saying borini is world class, he is just useful squad player. It's me saying stop crying about not signing lamela for 30m when we bought a player very similar, with a similar goal scoring record for 20m
JLess last year.
29 Aug 2013 12:21:35
I see your point Nevada. Borini is a very good player. 11 golas for Roma as an impact sub is top notch. However he was put on as a striker when everyone on the pitch was tired. Lamela is effective for 90 minutes, and from out wide at the same age as Borini, grabbed 15 goals and 6 assists in the league last season. Lamela may flop in the Premier league. He wouldn't be the first South American to look good in Italy and then be terrible in England. However, I think he will justify whatever Tottenham end up paying for him in the long run, as he has serious talent. I do however think that Turan, Moses and Yarmalenko would all be good options for us. I still cannot understand how under rated Moses is. The last player we plucked from Chelsea's reserves isn't to shabby!
YNWAdam
Why do people try make themselves feel better by doing this? He's class and you would of loved for him to sign for Us but the transfer board have been crap. Same goes with Eriksen.
29 Aug 2013 10:49:38
Reports coming through that LFC are close to signing Ilori. We have pursued him all summer but how good is this lad?
He's probably the fastest CB in world football 6'4 cultured Portuguese center back think carvalliho but with speed to rival Johnson & Enrique
29 Aug 2013 10:44:48
Reds who wants to put their necks on the line and, getting away from spurs, try to call all the transfers concerning us to take place over the next week?
For me I can only see sakho coming in, and, following Tuesday's hospital trip, no more outgoings.
No one else in. Can see Ayre under bidding on a few before deadline, then leaving early lighrs off at Anfield 6pm
29 Aug 2013 10:41:40
Heard rumours we are in for Yarmolenko, I don't know much about the player apart from he is left footed.
Anybody know anything about him, type of player, qualities etc.
He's quick.
He looks decent in a rubbish league.
I'd give him a wide berth.
1 of the eds did a very good blog on him so go have a look.
29 Aug 2013 12:02:30
If you go onto the LFC blogs and Voting polls page, I've done a review on Yarmalenko, Konoplyanka, Dzsudzsak, Adrian Lopez, Wijnaldum, Eriksen, Turan, Willian, Coutinho, Lamela, Tadic, Moses, Vela and Damiao.
They are all detailed and include strengths, weaknesses and statistics. Have a read and let me know what you think, or if you'd like me to review anyone else for you?
YNWAdam
29 Aug 2013 09:34:47
Hi eds, with spuds apparently bidding 8 million for Christian erikson and Ajax holding out for 12 million, my question is WHY have we not went for the man? fantastic player, falls into fsg plans, we already lost out on HM to Dortmund, we need to act quickly to get these players onboard, in Brendan we trust YNWA justice for the 96 {Ed001's Note - because he is not what we need and he doesn't really want to join us. Why would we want to buy a player simply because you rate him? Have you given any thought to where he would be played? How it would work in the system we have, which really lacks pace on the left more than anything?}
I personally don't see how he fits in spurs system, they have bought well, but are going to have a tricky job keeping all of their players happy.
If they don't qualify for CL this season, can see them having some problems.
29 Aug 2013 12:22:08
Spurs play 4-2-3-1, like us. with soldado their man. and lamela and lenon would play at flanks and errikson in the middle. capou/dembele/paulinho in the midfield.
that looks cracking of a first 11.
On the contrary Eriksen seems to be well suited to Spurs' team on paper. Spurs have bought Paulinho and Capoue for the centre of midfield and Chadli and now Lamela and possibly Vadillo all of whom are wingers. Which leaves Eriksen as first choice for the AM role. But I highly doubt he'll be as effective as van der Vaart.
Anyhow, it'll be interesting to see how so many players gel together and the law of averages predicts that out of the 7-8 signings, atleast 2-3 will not fit in. Potential bargains for next season? We'll have to see!
sama491
Yes but Spurs are weak at the back, Walker & Rose are good going forward but get caught out just like Johnson does for us, Dawson is a solid center half while Vertonghen is good going forward but at times gets exposed at the back and Lloris worries me when I watch him play good shot stopper but very weak commanding the back line and tends to punch the ball out from set pieces instead of catch it.
I believe in Liverpool and hopefully with 2/3 quality signings and the return of Suarez we can get top 4.
29 Aug 2013 10:25:51
Does anyone still think Suarez will be sold by Monday?
I think he will stay and see how we look by January in the league, if were struggling then he is available for CL clubs and will be gone.imo.
Ynwa
I don't think we'll sell without a replacement but who knows what is actually going on and what deals are in place. It could all get very interesting over the next few days although I am now very very bored of the Bale transfer. It's felt like everything has been waiting for this to happen before the dominos fall and I suspect it will all be a bit of a let down.
Window should be closed before the league starts IMO {Ed001's Note - personally I disagree, I think they should just go back to the original way of leaving it open throughout the season. It helped the smaller clubs maximise the return they got from selling players. They could hang on to a player through the season, until he had helped keep them in their division, then sell him at a higher price, as he had done well all year. Now, they are often forced to sell players just in case, as they have a tight budget and can't be sure they will have enough to see them through without a sale.}
29 Aug 2013 11:31:17
Morning EDs and Reds!
Can anyone give a review on last nights game? I believe suarez played so was wondering if he played, if so, how did it go for him?
Cheers,
29 Aug 2013 10:01:22
We have left ourselves open to the wolves re transfers now as other clubs know how desperate we are for CB. LFC only have themselves to blame as since day one of the transfer window we have known we need to strengthen in this area. Well done you will now have to pay over the odds or try to survive until players get fit again.
Chill out, man. It's three games in. All wins. The window is still open. Chill.
TOTM? Getting you might be a glass half empty kind of person.
I'm sure you are right, LFC have not been trying to get the players they want in at the right time, they're are deliberately waiting to see who is left and then pay over the odds - If only we had someone like you on the board! What are we waiting for, it's like there might be other big teams, with more money, CL etc that want the good players too. I'm with you, let's put ignorance to one side and sake the board!
Mike Marriott
Not at all just a realist not a dreamer.
29 Aug 2013 09:58:07
morning eds and fellow reds eds jw is there any updates on turan.eg are we in talks with them are we about to make a bid anything you can tell us. with only a few days left in the window I would love for us to make a push for this guy. also what's the update on sakho and are these rumours about us being back in for alderweirld true
29 Aug 2013 09:34:30
Illori is a must at this stage, with him to bolster the defense I reckon we might just have enough up top to compete although I fear if sturridge gets injured we will struggle even with suarez back, would love to see turan come in but I think its highly unlikely, henderson will prove his worth this season YNWA
The only problem is Illori is only an U-21 and not a experienced defender for the prem. I like him but would like a sakho or toby also.
Ynwa
Thats why Andre Ayew would be a good target he plays LW or ST
29 Aug 2013 09:34:20
What I find amusing is that all the blind optimists are going nuts that we are talking about Spurs. They are our rivals for forth, it's only natural that fans our annoyed by our lack of being real quality. But it's contradictory because opening weekend the blind optimistis were out in force laughing at the misfortune of arsenal. As if we'd got one up in them or something.
What do you define as quality? So far i've only seen people comment on tottenhams quality on paper! on paper! i'm sorry but the game is played on this massive green thing in case you didn't know games aren't won on paper. We'll see where the season takes us but I see no point in people moaning about spurs cause what's done is done its not like we can change anything now.
29 Aug 2013 10:07:26
Hilarious, we beat the team that beat Arsenal?
Spud in disguise?
I think there's a balance, you don't have to be completely biased or naive & you don't have to be completely Fickle either! Last I checked football ain't played on paper! Most of us talk and talk but hindsight is never considered, maybe half their signings will flop or get injured?
It's astonishing really, the same behavior and childish rants were here last January. When Newcastle signed Sissokho, Debuchy, Mbiwa and how we lost out and many could see then being a force bla bla nonsensical tosh.
But if you do have a crystal ball please do tell or share with us the secrets you know! Ciao
No its played on the pitch and the players bought by rivals have been excellent on that big green thing. Newcastle have issues off thepitch but have bought well on the whole. They need a talented young manager to guide, not a self righteous pre Madonna in Pardew. But that's not the issue here. It's obvious the quality we need so do not cloud the issue with 'define quality' it's laughable really.
29 Aug 2013 09:33:46
So 4 days left of the transfer window and we need 1 possibly 2 CB'S, depending what happens with Skrtel LW so Coutinho can play AM, RW to replace Downing & Possibly a CF/ST if Borini goes.
Most likely according to Various Media outlets:
CB'S = Sakho & Ilori
RW = Ince?
LW = Turan
CF/ST = Vela?
Vela would be nice butttttt no CL football + I don't think he would start an for those reasons I think he won't join. #1&2
Borini will not be going and Vela is out of our price range.
But I would love the club to replace Suarez (45M) next season with Diego Costa (25M) and Carlos Vela (15-20M).
29 Aug 2013 10:29:57
According to a certain red top THEY are now after turan!
Vela is not worth anywhere near £15M & Costa signed a new deal, i'm really hoping for Turan & Sakho.
Lol Vela isn't at a CL club now he would jump to come here I reckon.
Haych real socieadad (or however its spelt) are in the draw for group stages of champions league today.
Haych vela scored 2 last night against lyon booking there place in the cl propper so he is at a cl club right now
29 Aug 2013 09:32:36
Left ourselves in a terrible bargaining position regarding centre backs Coates got injured 14 th August so we had to buy one now kolos is out will have to pay over the odds stick to rounders fsg
Or you could look at it as us being lucky that Coates' injury happened with time to get cover rather than after the window and we have no chance until January? Maybe we have to push that little more than we wanted for some targets but at least we have that choice.
29 Aug 2013 09:27:47
Cmone on then Eds if u were to stick ure neck on the line who do u realisticly see us gunning for in these last few days? Sakho and Turan would be nice but i'm not dure bout the latter. {Ed023's Note - I would take those two in a heartbeat}
1) Arda is an excellent player but due to his lack of pace, he is best suited to AM. I would just love the club to go for Konoplyanka instead. He has a bit of Hazard in him. Magnificent pace and dribbling. Will be ridiculously cheap as his contract runs out in 6 months. Konoplyanka and Sakho for around 20M would be excellent business. What do you reckon Ed?
2) What did you make of Johnson's performance the other day?
Would it be fair to say he was piss poor. Would love us to replace Johnson by Montoya (Barca) in the Jan window. {Ed023's Note - I would like Sakho - I haven't seen Konoplyanka but have heard good things}
So would I Eds but come on will we get em or who will we be going for? {Ed023's Note - I cannot give you a 100% answer on that as things can change}
Im with the ed23 I haven't seen Konoplyanka play other than youtube and that's no way to view a player, Sakho would be excellent as he is a solid player and can play LB if needed, if Konoplyanka has only 6 months to run than surely a offer of around £8M would get him, Sakho i'd say around £10M.
29 Aug 2013 12:24:14
Spot on.
Konoplyanka this guy is New hazzard for me. I would personally goa t Muriel man. looks like Ronaldo in his prime. a Beast.
29 Aug 2013 09:27:34
Daniel Levy is in talks with Ajax over a £9m move for Christian Eriksen.
Cant help but feel so annoyed when Eriksen was a reportedly Liverpool target and has been for the last 3 years and for a fee of £9M he now looks set to sign for Spurs, who fair play to Mr Levy he got double what Bale is worth and has spent it very well. Hats off to the best Chairman in the England. {Ed023's Note - What makes him even better is that it looks like some of our fans are so much in awe of spurs now I have heard a rumour from twitter that they have bought Spurs jerseys now instead..}
29 Aug 2013 10:02:04
He isn't what we needed. hen is a quality ACM for me, and that would end up dempsy or siggurdson life at WHL. we need pace on the flanks., .something we are crying for years.
25 mill for lamela
20 mil turan
15-18 mill Muriel
Ed023
I have to confess, I'm one of those who bought a Spurs jersey . it makes a great toilet seat cover.
On a serious note though, if Eriksen showed any remote inkling that he would join us, do you think he would be available at £9M or is this purely a "starting" figure? {Ed023's Note - I have no idea about fees or money so won't bother with that. I really do think the club are best without him. Would you prefer Coutinho off the front man or Eriksen? I know what I would prefer}
Why not sign Eriksen instead if Alberto? I really can't get my head around why Liverpool bought him for such a fee. Is he better than Suso? No! Who has the greater potential? Suso! Liverpool have once again been inadequate in the market. It's a shame because the January window went so well.
29 Aug 2013 12:26:39
JC_10
Thats a superb question.I had this from the moment We singed Alberto. 9mill, when are we going to learn the lesson, allen, borini etc.
Honda would come at 7-8 mill with experience.
Or give Suso a real good chance within the PL let him comepte with Countinho, he would have started against Notts county last nyt.
29 Aug 2013 09:26:08
Its funny when players we are linked with sign for other clubs the are suddenly not good enough. The worst bit is its like logging on to spurs banter not Liverpool. Other clubs can buy who they want who cares I wish them all the best. At the end of the day this is Liverpool banter if there are posts that have nothing to do with Liverpool i'm not sure why they are posted anyway. We should only be concerned with Liverpool. We should be looking forward to a massive game on Sunday not talking about who spurs might sign next.
Well said mate
29 Aug 2013 09:16:24
I think we should be looking at a midfielder before a left winger. Surely Aspas, Borini, Coutinho, Sturridge Suarez, Sterling and Ibe can cover the three attacking positions.
In midfield we only have Alberto and Allen covering if Gerrard, Lucas or Henderson are missing and I think Alberto might be preferred further forward.
I reckon that's why Mkhitaryan was first choice because he could player deeper or more attacking.
But Costa, Willian or the likes of Moses don't make sense.
Given Allen being a bit out of sorts (not all his fault) and Alberto's lack of experience, I think we're a bit thin in midfield.
A LW, as well, by all means but I think a more central midfielder should be more of a priority.
And a centre half, of course.
Rigsby.
29 Aug 2013 09:03:59
The Problem we faced against Notts county was we almost used all our full squads to voer comet hem, Which shows our lack of deapth. Apart from Lucas, All the first teamers were on the pitch to beat League 1 side (No disrespect to them)
And that's a worrying factor, Our Bench looked awful, only midfielders to come in. No impact Players.
UTD has atleast 4 Attacking players to come off the bench every season.
The Problem with players and kids of the age 21 are, They would be happy to start their career with us untill they reach their Peak, and then they would want to move out for bigger challenge.
suarez, errikson, hazzard, HM, etc etc.
29 Aug 2013 09:32:59
Lucas, Enrique, Aspas, Kelly, & Suarez was
not involved. If not for injury Coutinho, Henderson & Agger wouldn't be involved.
Impact subs? How? With all the injuries which forced us to play 10 men?
Oh. And didn't Coutinho come off the bench to assist and Henderson scored? What more of an impact from the bench do you need?
Has aspas and enrique not been in the starting 11 for both games this season. don't think they figured in the notts county game.
29 Aug 2013 10:08:05
Lucas, Enrique, Aspas, Kelly, & Suarez was
Suarez and Kelly didn't start in our previous 2 games. and I don't see kelly starting ahead of Toure anytime soon.Enrique would be gradually replaced by Aly in future.
Aspas and Lucas was the only two player that didn't played against Not County.
Impact Subs, Countinho and Henderson are not Impact subs, they are regular starters, and we relying too much on Countinho and Sturridge
Luis alberto was not good enough, and Br bought Countinho instead to win the match.
Javier Hernandez, valencia, Young, Benayoon (Once)
29 Aug 2013 10:08:31
Enrique qont be featured ahead of Aly anytime soon.
Sometimes when Harry types stuff up Mr.Hanky comes to mind 8)
Aren't borini and aspas strikers
I'm pretty sure Enrique will feature instead of aly in our next match. That soon enough?
29 Aug 2013 12:29:19
Mr. Olivander
Aren't borini and aspas strikers?
Aspas is a striker for me, and I would play him anyday as a striker.
Borini is a special breed which happen sonce in 237 years, who has huge potential, but would to the treatment table in every 3 months and would eventually vcome good in 2019.
29 Aug 2013 08:57:31
I really think that someone out wide will be bought. With Downing being sold and Assaidi being loaned, we currently have 8 actual forwards: sterling, Ibe, Alberto, and Pacheco being among them. Pacheco is off the map, and the other three are young. Unless BR is going to rotate them all year we all can see we need someone else. Maybe Henderson will be playing out wide all year long, I want to see him play as much as possible, but not there. Do I know who will be signed, absolutely not, but it is obvious someone has to come in. So everyone relax, and if you must complain, do it after the deadline. YNWA
29 Aug 2013 08:56:42
Eds how come when I mention FSG not giving BR no money because they want to cut wage bill it never gets put on the board? Am I touching a raw nerve or something?. What annoys me is you put the same rubbish posts from people asking total stupid questions that just get the bog standard replay from certain eds!! {Ed023's Note - If it is simply abusing other posters or has no relevance to the post a poster is replying to, it won't get through. I don't know why you're posts aren't getting through, are you looking in the right place?}
29 Aug 2013 09:46:37
They're not giving him money because that money counts as debt to the club. With FFP coming in bit by bit, we need to be careful how much debt we accrue, so they will spend a certain amount on any player believed to represent value for money.
Ed23 thanks for your reply.
No ed I have never abused other fans/posts as they are entitled to their opinion as we all are, as for having no relevance I feel it does when we are talking about transfers.
Cheers ed {Ed023's Note - I'm not saying your post had no relevance, I meant the editor who posted at the time might have thought that. This is the first and second post I have seen from you mate}
29 Aug 2013 08:53:52
anyone else heard the rumour, that we are looking at torres along with the gooners, for me he would be a good back up striker, but he's not in the same class as sturidge, suarez {Ed023's Note - Yes heard that in 2012 winter window... 2012 summer window... 2013 winter window.. 2013 summer window... 2014 winter window??}
29 Aug 2013 09:11:52
HEH. ED023, Good going. you are retty cloe to Ed 02, still cherich. HM on flight since 72 hours. hhehe
29 Aug 2013 09:11:52
HEH. ED023, Good going. you are retty cloe to Ed 02, still cherich. HM on flight since 72 hours. hhehe {Ed023's Note - He is on a voyage around the world, he is expected to dock next July 12th 2014}
29 Aug 2013 08:49:59
Not a rumour, just a question.surely now is the time to move for eriksen.spurs in talks with him, let's not miss out on this one pls!
He is not a player we need. I have launched quite a few rants against the club regarding transfers but this is not one. We have Texeira and Suso who both given the chance will become better than erikson so why waste money?
I was actually pissed we didn't move for Capoue as we needed a DM and one was available for 8.5M but absolutely don't give a damn about erikson.
29 Aug 2013 10:09:55
Capoue would have been a steal. good quality player.
29 Aug 2013 08:46:24
People moaning about transfers need to really look at the bigger picture. We've had no Champions League for a number of years now, so we have lost the revenue from that. We may have got big money sponsors but that will no where near cover the 40m from Champs League.
This means that to make a big transfer we need financing, that means debt and would also make it harder to meet FFP rules if we did make Champs League.
This is why Rodgers has said money is available but only for a top player, a top player that would help us attain Champs League revenue. We have made bids for 3 such players who have in turn moved to Champs League teams instead, something you can't really argue with, top players want to play in the top competitions.
You cannot slate Liverpool or FSG, we obviously have the ability to make big signings in terms of finance, but the club do not want to risk long term implications sprouting from doing so.
Everyone moaning about Spurs, they didn't make any major signings when they made champions league or when they sold Modric, they are also about to sell Bale, massive revenue there, that they have invested extremely well.
We've done well with the signings we have made and were playing well, what's with the negativity? Do we have to make a 20m signing just for the fans to be happy? Personally having seen clubs transfer their way into trouble I'm just glad to see my team being run well and playing good attractive football.
Anfield Andy
29 Aug 2013 09:06:43
Andy
No Negatiivity, But these should have done and dusted earleir in the window, we have limited Money and wea are continously wasitg it every season.
Luis alberto. I Know he is a good little player, But what's the necessity of signing him at 9 mill? and loaning a similar player of same age to another club?
Y don't we fix our most important issues.
Actually the team just needs around 40-45M total net spending in the 3 transfer windows (this, Jan and next summer) to build a squad capable of matching Spurs, Arsenal even ManU. Is it too much to ask?
If we can't even match that do we have a right to ask BR to achieve CL?
simple question.
29 Aug 2013 10:11:08
Yes. ofcourse, Since BR arrival we have spend almost 80 mill, and that's the only amount AVB has sopend in two seaosns. You need to buy good players.
29 Aug 2013 08:36:51
BRILLIANT FSH they could easily walk out of the most expensive transfer season having strengthened LFC with a NET spend of £0.
ignoring business done till now. which leaves us in the black by £5mil, Suarez to Chelski in return for Mata + Moses (loan) + £20 mil. This funding LWF, CD X2
Like I said could be BRILLIANT.
Then we would need a RF of class.
29 Aug 2013 08:25:40
Capoue is a fantastic dm hewould have improved any of the top teams an lamela scored in tje 20s last season and was voted in top 5 best young players in world last season I believe an paulinho is yet another good player
This is driving me insane! Stop please with all this childish petty jealousy! Our players and manager have nothing to do with Spurs other than play them twice a year. It bears no relevance to how much they have spent, or how many players they have bought. We havn't missed out on any of them, because we didn't want any of them, because they aren't the right players for us. Why can't people see that?
Lamela has scored 19 in the last two seasons
Nick. Don't kid yourself! Spurs are in competition for Liverpool and have signed much better players. Liverpool will fight Arsenal for 5th unless there signings don't hit the ground running.
29 Aug 2013 08:24:32
henderson?
Imo there is soming abt this guy, the way he took that goal against county was superb.
I think if Br & coaching staff can work on hendos vision & confidance, which affect his decision making mostly(always seems to go for wrong or safe option though he has good passing range.), hendo could turn out to be a gread midfielder.
I don't know if every1 agrees with me but he has something spl. But on the flip side there is also something mentaly that holds him back,
if the coches can accept that challenge then, we could have a long term solution to some problems in midfield.
Hendo to me looks like a unpolished but a dimond 4 sure.
I agree
I think why they have kept him and got rid of Shelvy. Henderson has huge potential.
Yes mate his work rate is amazing and his quality is showing through now. Great player
29 Aug 2013 08:19:29
I like u have played 2 games this season without rat boy an spurs have played 2 without bale and u are ok but tjey are not boas
29 Aug 2013 07:47:00
Mornings Eds
Agree with your comments regarding Eriksen not goo enough and we don't need him and will not get into the team replacing Coutinho, Gerrard, Lucas or Henderson in midfield. Why not buy two CB that can also play RB and Lb ie Sakho and Alderwereld and a LW on loan Honda or Moses.
Thanks {Ed023's Note - Honda is out of contract in January, why would CSKA loan him? Moses on loan? I would prefer us to play Ibe and Sterling. We only need one center back as I feel Wisdom and Kelly can be used there too}
Rogers wants to loan wisdom out for first team action
29 Aug 2013 07:32:02
Eds, honest question looking for an honest answer. Was it always a sell to buy market this summer for us or have we got the budget to spend? I personally like te new ethos of buying the right quality at the right price. It's long term but it avoids players like Dempsey, Siggurdson and who knows else. This said I'm not sure about the loan signings like Sahin and Cissokho, are we really that worse off for Finances or is it simply an strategy we won't move from to progress the club? Thanks for all your replys! {Ed023's Note - Over the past seasons this hasn't been the case. The window isn't shut yet, let's see what happens and come back next Wednesday when I can give you a proper answer}
29 Aug 2013 06:48:52
Hi eds, after our first 3 games of the season and fought tests fast approaching on the whole I think we have looked impressive! However, one thing keeps niggling away at me in our performances and something I think needs addressing. Defending set pieces. We seem incredibly lightweight and vulnerable when deliveries come into the box with neither goalkeeper or defenders taking responsibility. Do you think this is a problem too, or am I being too critical? And if so, is it something that can be remedied by our defensive summer targets? {Ed023's Note - The club are looking to bring in a center back}
29 Aug 2013 06:50:15
I can understand the concern regarding Spurs but let's not get fixated on them. They've bought well because of the money they're getting from Bale and good luck to them. Personally, I love LFC and that's the only team I will be following. If our team play well then Top 4 is a realistic goal for us in my opinion, our style of play will get us points rather than big names in a less fluent system. And if Spurs or anyone else beats us to it then good luck to them, we'll get them next year or the one after.
Have some faith people and remember supporting your team is like marriage, for better for worse, for richer for poorer. It used to be like marriage without the nagging buy hey ho. :-)
Good post
29 Aug 2013 08:07:46
Spurs signings have not impressed me at all.
Let's not forget they are losing double player of the year Bale. He was their match winner last season.
Soldado is the best if their signings for me. They've needed a poacher for years, however, he's 28 and the move to a foreign league after a career in Spain may have come too late in his career.
Capoue - never heard of him. One of a dozen similar midfielders in Spurs squad.
Lamela - heard of him but not seen him play, at 21 he won't be pulling up any trees.
Paulinho - looks decent but not heard of him before Confed cup.
Chadli- heard of him from years ago. Latest teen sensation who hasn't lived up to potential.
So I'm not that impressed. I think they have been weakened by losing Bale and I think we can challenge them with our current squad.
Yes. Moses on loan.
Top four here we come
29 Aug 2013 08:35:12
Ken Aguero.
Jesus You are one of a kind.
You never heard of all the spurs signings?.
Joe allen 18 mill, Borini 11 mill, downing 20 mill, caroll 36 mill. Where wer you when we bought these players? {Ed023's Note - Sturridge 12m, Coutinho 8.5m, Lucas 6m, Agger 6m, Alonso, 10m, Suarez 22m. Will I go on? Every club makes mistakes in the market Harry. Also, Borini is still here so support the lad or is that to hard to ask?}
If you hadn't heard of them they mustn't be any good Ken. Thanks for calming our nerves.
29 Aug 2013 08:36:03
So did u saw Countinhom pulling upm trees at Inter?.
Man how can someone be so biased?
29 Aug 2013 08:57:00
Ed023, Spot on. No differnece in Opinion, But those days were glory days, when rafa bought some gems from spain and other leagues.
But can we afford to loose money Now?
We have made some excellent buisness in the past Rafa Era. I was just replying to Ken Aguero. {Ed023's Note - Coutinho and Sturridge are all for Brendan Rodgers to get praise from}
Completely agree ed. Borini is one player who I feel currently lacks confidence. If we give him a few opportunities in the U-21's again and he bangs in a few he will suprise many.
The lad is a quality finisher and works very hard too in closing down. {Ed023's Note - He tried very hard to impress when he arrived, then got injured then came back got injured. It has been a very unlucky start for the lad}
29 Aug 2013 09:49:25
Ken looking slightly jelouse there! Either that or he knows nothing about football? They have done well to spend their money and when the time comes I hope we do well when we spend the suarez money!
Harry he is entitled to his opinion. Don't get me wrong I am not saying I agree with Ken but I did post something weeks ago about Spurs signing so many players that no matter how good they are they will take time to gel and you suggested my rationale for saying this was crazy and wrong and twisted it to make it sound like I was said we should not buy anyone?!
In reality I wasn't wrong. I was not saying that it would make them worse but I was merely suggesting that if they play other good players will not and those not playing know the league already.
Its been proven again and again that buying loads of quality players does not mean a team will thrive at all. I cannot count how many team in premiership have signed "great player" who ended up being a complete waste of time.
You my friend are very opinionated which is fine, we all are, but trust me your knowledge is limited and you sound off like you know loads about how things work in football and what we need without actually knowing more than the next punter.
I also said I thought Mata was overrated and you sucked up top the Eds saying they should rip me to shreds over my comments. Well I did say he was very good and I stand by that. but do I think he is world class, no I do not. When he has space he looks good and is creative but I think some people are blowing his skills out of the water. IMO
Unlucky start for him and now Allen support the team lads come on
Hi Harry darling,
Some answers for you as you seem rather animated.
1) I have never heard of "Countinhom" either, let alone seen him pulling up trees at Inter.
2) How can I be so biased? I reckon most football fans are biased, I won't apologise for mine or bother to justify it to you.
3) I said I'd never heard of Capoue and only heard of Paulinho at the Confed cup. The others I had heard of, I suggest you re-read my original post S-L-O-W-L-Y.
Cool your jets Harry, you'll give yourself a hernia.
Love Ken
I've never heard of Harry Scouser either, I think he's another spurs signing. ;-)
29 Aug 2013 12:37:12
Ken Aguero (Kun Aguero)
1) Rubbish, I am not Biased and I call this as Respect to others. But that's fine If you have never heard of Lemla, capue, paulinho and soldado.
2) But In your Post you did say that you aren't Impressed with their signings, Apart from you the whole world and most of the fans here are well aware of those names you mentioned and would love to see them in LFC shirt.
Thank you for you kind advice.
29 Aug 2013 12:39:14
Gareth 2400.
Mate I disagree at one of your point, Mata is world class. You don't need pace at every position, The lad is pure skill, He has scored and assisted more goals than any other ACM last seaosn for chelsea.
He is the Perfect No.10.
29 Aug 2013 14:30:32
Ken Aguero.
The last one was your best. supreme Talent you are. I am still laughing.
29 Aug 2013 07:18:54
Please post:
Not sure who runs the website but have you considered developing an App? I'm sure posters and visitors would love it and find it even more addictive.
If you agree reply to the post! {Ed013's Note - It has been suggested before, still waiting on the outcome mate}
Im sure most would pay £2.99 or whatever it would be for an App, makes things much easier as most internet exploring is done on the old dog and bone nowadays.
Without ads though please eds, very annoying on a phone, not such a problem on a pc or laptop. {Ed001's Note - if we were charging, then there is no way we would run ads on it! I think anything you pay for should be ad free, such as subscription channels on TV. We have been saying for ages we would look into making an app, we have just never been able to decide actually what the app should do, which is apparently essential in an app. Sadly app makers won't just make an app to do 'things to be decided later'.}
29 Aug 2013 06:45:25
Heard a strong rumour that Ian Ayre has booked a table at Bella Pasta in Chester for 7pm 2nd September. They have 2 for 1 on mains.
Lights out early at Anfield on deadline day.
Top four here we come
28 Aug 2013 20:39:55
Eds: any news on Giovinco?
He would be a good option for us as left forward, he scores and creates, and his low centre of gravity / dribbling ability make him a nightmare to defend agaist.
Considering they want 2/3 strikers off their books - what kind of a fee would Juventus be looking for?
Cheers {Ed023's Note - He was offered last year as part of a bid for Suarez which we rejected. I am not aware of any interest now.}
29 Aug 2013 06:11:17
Please can people stop posting about spurs on this page. gees why are there many on here obsess with them? i'm a Liverpool fan and don't care about other clubs, what they are doing and what not. I certainly don't want to read about them on a Liverpool page. so please if you want to post about them ( can't bare to say the name again), go post on their page.
Now I will will support my team whatever the outcome of the transfer window, in whatever position we finish at the end of the season and whenever we we lose or draw. Full Stop.
29 Aug 2013 05:25:20
i have said it time and again lfc should sign carlos vela
he has been involved in all sociedad goals this season
scoring 4 asissting 4
last season 14 goals 9 assists.
he plays out wide
he is true gem that is coming of age.
liked him at arsenal though he didn't do much but still.
he is absolute genuine affordable quality.
last nights solo against lyon was so cool.
but I think the need of the hour would be a defender
though I would love kelly filling in that slot.
he is 22, he has to be given his chance now.
and please get rid of that piece of rubbish johnson. nowadays I just get irritated by his name on teamsheet. and his perfirmance infuriates me.
god he is the epitome of a defender who can't defend.
29 Aug 2013 03:56:00
We really need this left winger and more cover in defense unless BR is going to give Kelly/ Wisdom a crack in the middle!
Studge is looking sharp and will bang in a lot of goals this season but I'm worried if he gets injured we are screwed!
Suarez staying will be a massive bonus but I reckon we should put a solid bid in for Lukaku.
Would like to see Eriksen still, he is quality from what I've seen and very cheap too!
I hope we get some more players in. look at this weeks game. we lost 3 players in an already light squad!
29 Aug 2013 03:36:57
I can understand why people are annoyed about how spurs are buying some good players this window, but they are also losing Bale who was by far and away their best player for the last 2/3 seasons. When he was out for a spell at the end of last season they struggled to win. I have no doubt that on paper the players they bought will fill the void for them once he moves to Madrid.
However, there is little guarantee they will adapt to the premiership. Lamela looks a great prospect but apart from Coutinho, who was struggling in Italy, I cannot think of many players in recent history who have moved to England from Italy and have been a great success. The pace of the league is completely different and as much potential that he has I feel $30 million might be a gamble. Eriksen is another, it is clear that he has some issues when no Champions league teams have come in for him at what appears a low cost. I don't know what it is but with so many teams looking to sign attacking players I would have thought there would be more competition for his signature.
I would love us to sign a top class center back and winger before the window closes as I feel with suarez still to come back into the team we would have a starting 11 to match anybody in the league with a solid squad to back it up. People keep saying the players we have aren't good enough but United have won the league before without the best players in the world. I believe Rodgers has the team playing in a way that will bring success. Big test this weekend let's hope the good form continues.
29 Aug 2013 03:28:05
Spurs too dependant on Bale, AVB still not convincing me, BR is a better coach, now before someone says were too dependant on Suarez were doing good without him, let's all back up the boys fightin for the red shirt, let's all back them up together to accomplish glory, let's be a strong 12th player, let us the supporters be the marquee signing for the Club cause we are too divided at the moment, let's not make it harder for the Club by fightin amongst each other, let's STAND TOGETHER AND MAKE A SERIOUS PUSH THIS SEASON! thanks :D
28 Aug 2013 23:28:33
So things have gone extremely quite on a new Left attacker, you think its just not happening this window eds? Also stop complaining about spurs guys seriously! sturridge coutinho Suarez front 3 is quite impressive in my eyes, they will do well to beat us to top 4 with them 3! Appreciate what you have! {Ed023's Note - Last year I was confident something would be done before the window closed, I am not getting my hopes up this year. I'll wait and see what happens}
29 Aug 2013 08:17:11
Ed023, Spot on, even I have lost faith in this signing. Something is wrong inside our club.
BR says there is money to buy quality, And most of the quality players are moving in and out.
Do we actually have money? {Ed023's Note - I think the money is there but as BR said a few weeks back, he won't spend for the sake of it}
29 Aug 2013 08:37:34
ED023, Yes But we need a LW and CB from past 2-3 months, common you can't say there ain't any quality players out there. {Ed023's Note - And didn't we try and fail to get one of three lads in? You are quick to say the club have wasted money in the past. The club are not going to blow big money on players them think that aren't worth it}
29 Aug 2013 08:59:02
Ed are you sure we tried to sign HM, Willian and Costa?. probably by bidding at around 25 mill mark?
bernanrd is superb little player, Muriel is another player, Lemala would be steel, there are plenty of players If we have the money to spend, Some real quality players who would walk into our team straight away. {Ed023's Note - Bernard went to Shaktar, Murial may have work permit issues and Lamela is off to Spurs.}
29 Aug 2013 10:14:08
So what were we doing when all these players were moving to other clubs?.
Is willian the only LW we looked into?. Lamela would have been a steal, Spurs did with ease.
Muriel too, If levy wants Muriel, He would get him too.
29 Aug 2013 02:30:34
Personally I do not think we will buy anyone, any big money purchases would only have happened with money raised from the sale of Suarez. If we get any more players I think they will be loans. Personally I reckon Moses would be a shrewd capture. Maybe a loan of a cb with option to buy at the end of the season, no idea who though.
Agree. No chance of anyone else
29 Aug 2013 07:20:05
". Liverpool canot buy every player. But there is money to buy quality players. "
Most of the transfers are happening now and good players are moving in and out.
There'll be at least two players in. Probably Moses and Ilori. If Ince is sold it halves Ilori price or pays for Moses loan. Wisdom to leave on loan to a PL team.
29 Aug 2013 00:54:32
My grandad supports spurs.
Just thought I'd add to all the pointless spurs related post as I was starting to feel left out.
Stay classy San Diego
Haha - brilliant - best Spurs post, and most relevant, I have read yet.
29 Aug 2013 00:46:00
So it looks like the two/three signings Liverpool could make are Mamadou Sakho, Will Hughes and Victor Moses.
How does everyone feel about these being Liverpool's targets?
29 Aug 2013 03:00:43
i feel groovy
If we didn't spend on these three players in the last month just gone of the window, then why be held to ransom over price in the last few days of the window? That's my first thought really.
It seems if anything does happen now it will be rushed and almost like a panic buy, but after the four injuries this week including Kolo's groin? and Coates blowing his knee off; I think we are thin at the back again.
29 Aug 2013 07:21:22
Sakho would be an excellent signing. But 12 mill. can't see happening.
Will Hughes is Unnecessary right now and at 15 mill Impossible.
Mosses would be awful.
Will Hughes I know little about. Moses could be effective if given a run of games, but the same could be said of Borini. Sakho is a bit of a no brainer IMO, just divvy up the dough.
29 Aug 2013 08:18:08
We are thin at back and our bench looked awful last Nyt, only midfielders to come in. Its been years of Investemetn and werz the money?
29 Aug 2013 00:43:51
I DON'T understand why people are complaining about our performances so far this season, we've won every game so far. What is possibly wrong with that?
And so we should have beaten Notts County Stoke and Villa shouldn't we?
We might have won, but it was with sensibly valued players on sensible wages - we don't need that at LFC - we are a massive club who should only play marquee players with big wages and no heart or desire. There has been no statement of intent over these three matches. Our MOM for the 2 league games came on a free for goodness sake. What does that say about FSG? No money? I wish spent heaps of money on world class talent and lost against a newly promoted team - who cares if we win, we want mercenaries - now that's a statement on intent!
I think people realise that we could easily be sat here with 2 points and out of the league cup. We have escaped with a win on each occasion.
Our defence look wobbly under the high ball and our attackers are snatching at chances.
But it's early days and the results have been impressive.
29 Aug 2013 00:26:50
Eds, Turan sent off from the sidelines today, do Liverpool need another player like this? {Ed001's Note - not sure he is that badly behaved that we should steer clear on that account.}
Cheers Ed001 {Ed001's Note - no worries, it is his injury record and lack of real pace that are more likely to put us off.}
29 Aug 2013 00:21:05
Think we are leaving it late to sign enough and good enough signings. Unless things liven up soon I think we've blown 4th. Not being negative for no reason, just don't see the signings we ave made getting us into top 4.
Rodgers said himself a few weeks back we have signed mainly improvements to squad and next will be to improve team, that didn't sound bad at the time but with nothing happening since and deadline day looming I'm worried. Just hope he's at least 2 signings to go straight into team and improve us. If we don't sign good quality ready to start I am worried that fsg are not doing what they should be. Reading a few comments on Spurs being spoke about too much but I can see why people are talking about them, they were better than us last season ( it kills me to say ) and even allowing for Bale going think they've strengthened. A few have said they have only got 2 goals from pens this season and they don't look great, 2 games? Can't judge after 2 games FFs. I just see players signing for them ( almost all linked with us), I hope Rodgers and fsg sort something soon or my hopes for this season are not high.
And finally please no crap about supporting the players we have regardless, yes we can support them if they are not playing well but we do not have to accept it ongoing we will be a mid table team and that is so f*****g hard for me to say. Season ticket holder by the way, missed about 30 home games in 40 years and been to hundreds away games at home and abroad.
JFT96
YNWA
What exactly is it you think FSG should be doing? Borrowing more money from a bank to finance the transfer fees of new players?
29 Aug 2013 07:23:58
JFT96
Spot on. This is exactly what I posted yesterday.
Spurs have spend almost 86 mill, Probably Bale Money. But Most of them looks real quality players.
Paulinho, capoue, chadli, soldado, lamela.
Ian Ayre is working tirelessly behind the scenes. He is readying bids just under what's required for a host of targets.
Top four here we come
29 Aug 2013 08:19:49
RDL.
No we shouldn't borrow money, But why don't they just come out and say it, we need to sell it to raise money.
Whats all nonsesne BR spouted about quality, we do have money for right type of players?
I don't think we would get a quality player under 10 mill, in this last satge of the window.
29 Aug 2013 00:02:35
ì watched griezman tonight for soceidad, looks a good attacking player, he has lightning pace and a good cross may not be the finished product but with financials problems in spain . Do you "supporters" think he's worth a chance?
Griezmann is one of the brightest young talents in Europe, he would not snub his current team who is plying their trade in the Champions League for Liverpool right now. I have been a huge fan of his for a year or two and he will eventually be plucked by a bigger Champions League team.
None. No chance.
We want Moses ON LOAN.
Top four here we come
Crunch. Do Arsenal or Spurs have a better front four than us? Sturridge & Suarez are both 20 goal strikers, Coutinho & Aspas can get 10 each and have excellent skill, vision, movement. Sturridge cost half Soldado fee, SPuds paid same amount for Sigurdsson as we did for Coutinho, Suarez cost less than Lamela. Presumably you think Walker is better than Johnson, Vertonghen better than Agger, Paulinho better than Stevie G?
28 Aug 2013 23:53:59
Have faith in the team, forget other teams concentrate on our team LFC, it's not always about star signings world class players, most important it's about team performance if we play as a team I'm sure top 4 will be achievable who agrees?
29 Aug 2013 03:11:36
support your team! all of us let's create positive energy and support the club that way, that's the most we can do. oooor if you are such die hard fans(reffering to the slaters who send out negative energy)why don't you all send LFC a couple of hundred quids for a ''marquee'' signing that you want that bad, I bet you can get tgtr 15 mil. at least, FSG will be more than happy to add on that :D
Good post
Fact is both Manchester teams and Chelsea will have top four nailed on.
Arsenals squad was good enough for top four already. Spurs have added about six top top players to a squad already good enough.
We needed to add to our squad and BR CONFIRMED THE EARLY BUSINESS WAS JUST TO ADD DEPTH. He has said weeks ago now need to add quality to push on for top four. WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS. So no top four is not achievable even out own manager thinks this looking at HIS comments.
FSG and Ian Ayre had the opportunity this summer. There are players of the quality available. Some for a lot less then you'd expect due to final year of contract etc.
FSG have bought a top club in world football, a Ferrari and they cannot afford the petrol to drive it.
29 Aug 2013 09:28:35
Reality is top players achieve you top status.
Yes CC, that is exactly how Dortmund won two of the last three Bundesliga titles and in a champions league final. Top players with a top coach. Not expensive ones per se but top players for that team.
28 Aug 2013 23:26:46
Loving all these posts about 'are we on the spurs page' and criticizing everyone about talking about them. The reason we are worried is because they are our competition for 4th and they are now leagues ahead of us. With ffp coming in this year I think we could see a cemented top 4 for years to come, and guess what. we're not in it!
Can't wait to see what all these optimists that are happy with our current squad have to say when we find ourselves dropping off the pack.
We need quality reinforcements and fast of we're to get anywhere. It's ridiculous how you're writing all spurs signings off as mediocre. we'd be over the moon with even one of those players.
Financial Fair Play would only benefit us in relation to spurs. We generate much more revenue per year than them. They aren't light years ahead of us they have played 2 games and won both off soft pk's. I would say big money doesn't mean big wins, but people just don't seem to get it. Show some intelligence please.
DJ
Very eloquently put. i'm glad there is someone else who can see this is all linked and that you are not as insular as the others.
Spurs are our competition and agreed I would have loved any of their recruits to have come to LFC
Yup I really envy their signings. we're still searching for 1 marquee signing, they've made 4 or 5. with that squad they can certainly be challenging for the league. I can't see us getting ahead of chelsea and man city. man u will somehow manage to finish in top 3. arsenal will definitely be in the race for top4 even if they don't sign anyone. I think getting 4th will be harder than ever. and if we don't have UCL next year definitely suarez won't stay and we won't be able to attract top players because fsg won't spend. hope i'm proved wrong at the end of the season.
Well said - the so called optimists are having a laugh and have the decency to call some of fans who are voicing their concerns about the club that we are not supporting the club? my perception is that most of the realistic fans are showing more support by highlighting problems for the well being of our club so that it can improve long term.
The reality is that most clubs i.e spurs, city and chelsea are blowing all their cash in this summer transfer so that they can get all the quality players in before the financial rules come in place expertly told by djcollinson which is next year - this mean these clubs would be cemented in the top position as they have a bigger depth of quality players in their squad whereas we have not reinforce one bit and for the next couple of season we would be left behind!
Liverpool would be out of top 4; selling stars such as suarez and attracting second tier players. so get your head out of the clouds and get a better perspective.
Because FSG won't spend? Spend what money? They would have to loan the money to the club via UKSV (e.g. put the club further in debt) to buy the sorts of players people are on about.
Until either a) the club produces a profit or b) we actually manage to make some coin on a sale of a player, it's going to be difficult for us to fund new players.
Bale is about to be sold for 100 million, they are reinvesting.just like we did two summers ago after selling Torres and a few others, but we didn't reinvest well. They just lost the best player in the league and I can assure you they are not half the team without him, especially at the end of tight games! Get a grip some of you! We play beautiful football and I fancy us to them. We will sign probably two CBs and a left sided player. If you are so upset, go support Spurs, we don't need you silly trolls!
May take time for the Spuds team to gel, too many individuals?
At least Liverpool look like a 'team' now.
Which of their signings do you envy?
Would you swap them all for Bale?
28 Aug 2013 23:10:15
Toure injured big miss and hard for him to take I imagine after a grate start
Aly C injured making it a tough start
And lastly a unlucky Joe Allen who has got another tough injury
best a luck lads be strong
28 Aug 2013 23:07:46
Trying to remain faithful that we will get 2 or more players in but getting worried! We obvs have money, we have bid +£20m on three occasions, but worried because even the papers or aren't even making up players to be linked with. Hope I'm wrong but we have thinned our squad and not really spent much compared to what we've let go. Combined with it taking a while for us to sign players and the disaster off a transfer window last season. Hope I'm wrong and am being pessimistic, but just hoping for even a rumour of a bid and would feel bad if Rodgers who has stated he wants to bring in quality is left lacking again at the start of the season! ESP because I think we are 2-3 players short of a quality side
Yeah disaster. Lol. Coutinho and sturridge have been just terrible for us.
Sorry didn't word that the best, but by "disaster last season" I meant the last summer transfer window, when we sold a lot of players and didn't bring in enough replacements. We have a good starting XI but could do with 3 more players especially after injuries. Coutinho hasn't been as effective because he has been played out wide and even when/if Saurez comes back and we play: mign, jose, agger, toure (if fit), glen, stevie, lucas, coutinho, saurez, sturridge, aspas
Our bench just doesn't look promising attack wise (borini, sterling, ibe), fair enough they are players who I believe will be good but we need quality now. Allen can change a game (3-2 win over spurs) but if we get a few injuries in midfield or up front are options are bare. I hope will sign a forward, DM, & CB but just worried that it has to be done by next Monday and we don't appear to be in talks with players.
Stop relying on Coutinho and sturridge
29 Aug 2013 07:28:13
Tj Red.
You can't hide our mistakes with two names, Countinho and sturridge. yes they ahev been sensationsl.
what about this. spurs signed bale for 7 mill from southampton and selling him at 100 mill. Bow down for that
Well coutinho havnt been that great the recent teo games. Yes he had a good pre seaso and the ending of last season. But so far he hasn't actually been that great. Sturrigde on the other hand is terrific
There's only so many times people can keep mentioning 'Coutinho and Sturridge' to justify our limited transfer dealings
What about Mignolet, Toure, Aspas & Alberto then? With Sturridge & Coutinho that's five starters since January to add to England captain Steven Gerrard, England right back Glen Johnson, Denmark captain Daniel Agger and Brazil international Lucas Leiva. Short at left-back, oh hang on. We have also signed Aly Cissokho, a France international.
28 Aug 2013 23:07:17
really see spurs spending spree putting city back into the maket as chelsea have done the last week with 3 new additions, so see us challenge for 4th along with utd and arsenal and city, spurs and chelsea takin top 3 places in some order.We prob need a cb and lw of top quality to progress into champ league places but getting them to sign with out champ league is nearly impossible, a real catch 22, what about waiting til jan fingers crossed we still right up there and a lot of good players should be available with there clubs knocked out of europe and then buy strengthen team at great point in season, would prefer this to a panic buy as has happened to us before, with no other major comp to distract us like our rivals .red2toe
Spurs in front of city. you've got to be joking. Stopped reading there.
29 Aug 2013 07:29:05
Tj Red.
Wiothout all these aditions. Spurs played best football from last 3-4 seasons. Pls accept that.
It's not impossible to sign top quality players without CL football.
Look at Spurs. Are they in CL this year? They've signed plenty of top players and will continue to do so.
Ian Ayre will bid just under what's required and then can tell the fans we can compete monies there selling clubs asking over the odds. Like Ajax wanting £7m for their captain Alderweild and £10m for Eriksen. Far too much Ian.
Moses on loan. Top four here we come.
28 Aug 2013 23:04:26
im not concerned yet totally
at a guess today was about assessing kolo joe and aly s injuries to see how bad they are and what we will resultantly need to do in this window.
i still expect signings to come in. we certainly need them
firstly a centre back.
from last season it was clear scoring goals wasn t our problem, conceeding them was. wehoped to get away with it on the cheap with signing toure. however toure hasn't played afull season in 4 years. a top quality centre back should have been our no 1 priority all summer. we should have had this position sorted early in the summer
secondly a top quality wing option
we have known all along that stewart downing needed upgrading with atop quality player, lik the top qality centre back that was needed this should have been sorted early in the summer
the problem is we tried to sort these two vital positions on the cheap with toure and aspas.
neither of which are really top quality(in aspass case) or a viable long term full season solution(in kolo s case). we should have gone and spent 35 million on these two positions in the firt weeks of the window instead of 7 here and 8 there on aspas and alberto. these squad signings could have been made later when we sold carroll and shelvey
the problemi I that I don't believe we have any money to spend this summerand if we really did have the funds to spend then surely we would have made these two VITAL signings as the priorities not the squad signing that we did make
considering the fact that I don't think we have any money really I would be happy with a moses loan to buy deal. we seem to do well at signings quality youngsters not getting a game at massive clubs . they seem to thrive here. if moses came and had half the contribution of couti and sturridge we d be flying. he scored 10 in 43 last season. that is a better return than any of our wide players last season
finally I think we need a central midfielder. I wouldn't mind a wise old head in to play 20 games a a back up. unsure who exactly but someone who can doajob in the starting 11 but might not expect games every week? any ideas anyone. I think scott parker would have been ok. not great just someadded strength in depth
ultimately I don't think we can afford a marquee signing nor should we be targetting one. our most succesful signings under rodgers have been young hungry footballers not getting a game elsewhere so why change a winning trend. {Ed001's Note - this is just utter cack, based on guesswork with no basis in fact. You have already decided Aspas, who Chelsea were after, is not top quality, despite the fact the season is only 3 games old and he played well in his 2 appearances to date. You have decided Toure is a crock, despite being the best player in the season so far, based on the fact that he couldn't get into the most expensively assembled side in Premier League history, rather than due to him having a lengthy injury list. I would personally say both of those two signings have shown promise and it looks, at this early stage, to have been an excellent move by the club to bring them in. Your only gripe is that they didn't cost 85m, it seems.}
Tom, where do you think £35M to sign a winger and a CB would come from? Do think LFC is lying about it's finances and actually has a secret £35M somewhere? And then you say we don't think we can afford a marquee signing (which I agree with). So £35M for you on two positions is not marquee money?
What's with the bit of players leaving "Massive clubs" to come here, does this guy not realise this is Liverpool football club, this is a massive club, much bigger than Chelsea & Inter Milan these 2 "Massive clubs" we signed Coutinho & Sturridge from
28 Aug 2013 23:03:44
Just want personal opinions who's better
Honda or turan?
Turan for me.
Phooey
1 is available for free and 1 will cost 25m. Think that says a lot, although Honda is prob worth 10m
29 Aug 2013 07:31:03
Different players, Turan for the wings and Honda to comepte with Countinho for ACM.
Moses . On loan
So Crunch, Moses on loan or noone at all? Or Suarez to go and then the options open up?
Andy K
28 Aug 2013 22:57:43
Eds we now have just 5 days left of the transfer window and despite all of the rumours most of which are not true we still have know confirmed firm interest in anyone? The Eco seems the most likely to believe and they have suggested Sakho again who's name keeps cropping up. Do u think that centre back is the priority and now with the injuries from last night that will be the only position we look at? IMO we still need a attacking mid, spurs signing everyone and now they off in for Eriksen. Turan or Mata never going to happen either.? {Ed001's Note - centre half and left sided forward are the main priorities and have been for a while.}
28 Aug 2013 22:19:54
Question for ed's I have no doubt we have the funds for players that fit within our remit eg add quality, young, hungry, resale etc but how do we compete when other teams will pay over the odds or offer champions league? Would value your reply cheers {Ed001's Note - we compete by creating a team playing good football who will run through brick walls for each other. The best 11 individuals will win some games through a piece of magic, but time has shown that the best team beats the best individuals 9 times out of 10.}
God bless the ed!
Agree with Ed. Utd prove it year after year.
None could have said it better than you Ed.
28 Aug 2013 22:07:40
Eds tv have just said spuds are talking to ericksen and they could get him for only 8.5mill. So my question is are we missing a trick here or something ok we need a left sided player but my god if he is only that price and that age surely this strength and depth that everyone talks about is stairing everyone right in the face. Is there something wrong with this guy because every wk he is on the score sheet or assist please let's us know eds.
Thanks {Ed001's Note - where would he play? Personally I am not sure he is all he is cracked up to be anyway. He looked great at youth level, but he hasn't really progressed, he doesn't offer anything that would strengthen our main weaknesses either. I would rather we looked elsewhere like we are doing, he was never keen on a move to us anyway, he just wants a stepping stone to get him a move to Spain.}
You`re talking too much sense, ed. NO club looked his way regardless of his "self-pimping" antics so now he`s jumping ship to spurs NOBODY cred to follow up w/ a bid. Tells you need to know about his potential. We don`t need him because we have players (Cout, Gerro, Aspas or even Suarez) who can effectively play his position. He`s Spurs problem now.
28 Aug 2013 22:06:20
Ed001,
I really don't mind us signing young players with potential or players who have something to prove. This policy can reap the rewards in the long run. However, I find it frustrating that the Manager and owners always mention that we have the finances to compete at the top level and that the target is top 4. We have been told repeatedly that we will be adding real quality to the team all summer long!
It just gets everyones hopes up that we will be bringing in proven quality, and although I like our signings so far, FSG can't seriously beleive that BR has a team ready to compete. Personally, I feel we will be waiting a couple more years yet when you look at it realistically. Still hope we do though.
Woluld like to hear your opinion on it, so I guess the question is how would you sum up this whole top 4 speil that we keep hearing? Do you think that they could be more realistic about the project in the press as to not simply disappoint? Cheers in advance! {Ed001's Note - personally I would prefer the club and manager and players to just keep their mouths shut. Each game as it comes and that is all that anyone should be thinking about. Win the next game and then start worrying about the one after when you have 3 points in the bag or through to the next round of the cup, not before. As for what money we have to spend, what position in the league we are aiming for, just say nothing and let our football do the talking.}
Once again, you`re talking too much sense, ed. Stop it!
28 Aug 2013 21:49:45
hi eds.
do we actually have an interest in a centralmidfielder
we are down to three all of whom are starters
we have no central mid substitutes at the moment
and whilst maybe couti can play am against lesser sides I wouldn't want him gerrard and lucas as our midfield in a warzone. its too weak, too immobile and too slow {Ed001's Note - seriously suggesting a midfield with Gerrard in it would be considered weak and immobile? Are we talking about Steven Gerrard or have you been watching Anthony Gerrard and got confused?}
29 Aug 2013 07:32:06
ED01. heh. yooo beautyyyyyyyy
28 Aug 2013 21:37:28
Hi Eds, thanks for the hard work. I have been following this site for a while and really enjoy seeing some professional comments from you guys. I am just curious in your (and fans) opinion between Atsu and Moses. It's seems like they are the closest target as winger at the moment. Chelsea moving for Atsu and giving up Moses is bothering me as we should be acting proactively instead of taking what Chelsea think as second.
Spurs closing out on Lemala, Chelsea closing out on Willan and Rome closing out on Adem Ljajic means that there ain't many option left. Do you have any other player in mind that can improve the current team and available within this window?
Thanks, {Ed001's Note - I would prefer neither.}
28 Aug 2013 21:36:39
Dear Ed,
Do you really see us making a "marquee signing" before the transfer window shuts? Because right now we seem to be happy targeting Victor Moses whilst our direct top 4 rivals Spurs have only gone and bought Lamela and Eriksen. {Ed001's Note - I hate the term marquee, it is just nonsense.}
That word is the dumbest term in football. Why? It`s open to interpretation.
Mark key on holiday mate
28 Aug 2013 21:15:33
Eds please help me understand! Just where do Tottenham get their money from? Also what is it that they offer that we can't. They are I the same Champoins LeagueLESS position as us, I just presume they have more money to spend and a higher wage offering. I am not surprised to see them get an offer accepted for Erikssen but I just wonder, did we even have any budget this summer to compete with them? It seems as though we are going for the same players with a lot less to offer financially. I don't mind if we don't have the money and have to get creative, but why are we even going head to head with them if we know we can't match their fees. After the Notts C game last night I just feel we are still a couple of players light and also missing that one top class player (other than Suarez) and I thought Erikssen, Willian, Mikky and others may have just been the right fit. Do you think we will get the right players in or is it honestly another tight year financially for us? I hope you can responde and thanks to Edds and all posters for your updates.love the site! {Ed001's Note - I don't understand the question, they are about to sell a player for more than they have spent, surely it is obvious why they can afford to spend money right now? Plus they have been fairly cautious in the market in recent seasons, stockpiling a decent amount of cash for the right manager to use.}
28 Aug 2013 20:17:46
eds,
just wondering why is it taking so long for ayre to even make contact with clubs and players. it seems other clubs go at least to make enquiries for player prices but we dont. Do we have several targets in mind or are we just looking for some good targets now as the window closes? Also do you envision us getting in some players before the end, if so how many? {Ed001's Note - what do you mean taking so long? Just that very sentence alone shows that you have no idea what you are talking about.}
28 Aug 2013 19:57:17
Hey eds,
just wondering on your opinion of spurs siging Lamela and Eriksen on top of capoue, soldado, Paulinho and chadli. Will all these players fill the Bale void?
In my opinion it's a three horse race for fourth between us arsenal and spurs, given that spurs have gone out and spent a lot, can you see us making any splashes in the last few days of the window?
Thanks a lot {Ed001's Note - I don't really see that what Spurs do has any relevance to Liverpool personally.}
Why we worry about other teams is beyond me. If you think other teams are worried about us then you are deluded. We will play these temas ON THE PITCH and we`ll find out, period.
I think the relevance is in the fact they are direct competition for a CL spot
28 Aug 2013 19:43:21
hey eds
any word on a new midfielder signing?or even interest
we have three fit midfielders with allen injured
gerrard lucas hendo and no one else
if lucas or stevie get injured on sunday we d have only 2 fit midfielders
now before peoplesay coutiand alberto can play am . yes they can in soft easy games but not in games when we need to shore up the midfield
i think its rather worrying that we have just 3 fit genuine midfielders at the cluband only one genuine dm
rodgers is overlooking a vital part of the team {Ed001's Note - apart from the fact we know Rodgers has been wanting to sign a central midfielder to cries of 'waste of time as we are strong there' from the fans. Anyway, apart from that, why would we sign another one, except for the defensive role, who is unlikely to be a regular, and so will only be stopping young players getting a place on the bench most of the season? Surely we need to leave some gaps in the squad for the youth to fill, or we may as well just scrap the whole academy system as a pointless waste of time. Some of you are just so obsessed with the need to have cover in every position, so much so you are even wanting cover for the cover players now!}
Just like Chelsea
28 Aug 2013 18:59:59
Eds how many more players do you think are coming in? We still need a centre half a holding midfielder and a winger if you ask me. {Ed001's Note - a couple at most I expect.}
28 Aug 2013 22:52:59
You can all laugh and take no notice but in my last post I said there would be a double bid on the last day its come a bit early I also said erickson had no intention to even talking to Liverpool the deal now seems imminent so I will now tell you all the bid is victor moses and our old friend nando it seems mata was br preference which was the bit that excited me and when he was left out on monday I couldn't hide my excitement but he has no interest in coming to Liverpool according to our family contact although he was sounded out about it apparently( not sure bowt that ) the market will close and that's it sakho no go llori no go, money to spend possible late bid for god knows its seems br is v annoyed about the centre back situation talk so wisdom and kelly may play more I hope I am wrong and someone is in the pipeline oh and the big news suarez will go to chelsea they are not seen as challengers for that fourth place
Sounded probable untill u mentioned Suarez moving to Chelsea - doubt we will without any replacements and we ar struggling to get any players in anyway