Liverpool Banter Archive September 28 2011
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28 Sep 2011 22:50:45
GMN
But your creativity comes from the middle and thats where adam plays who at the moment is our most creative midfielder. I dont belive he is slow. He is just learning to play with new team mates maybe oneway is to play three central midfielders as you say maybe play henderson or spearing in there with lucas and adam.
Mighty reds
28 Sep 2011 22:38:40
Who may Comoli have been looking at the Marseille game today EDS any ideas? {Ed001's Note - I haven't looked at either team to be honest, so I don't know. I haven't been taking any notice of European football, not without us in it, so I couldn't even tell you who Marseille were playing.}
Same here Ed001 - I miss it and can't wait for it to be back at Anfield next year - the world will seem right again!
LIVERPRES {Ed001's Note - to be honest I don't like it, the football tends to be boring as a rule and I only watch to see us play.}
You are right Ed - the footy can be dull - but I'd love to see Stevie, Suarez and Carroll playing the big European sides - hopefully next year we will be talking in present tense!
LIVERPRES
Could have been watching Mario Götze BorD where playing there last night if I'm not mistaken
28 Sep 2011 22:32:15
Guys,
Just playing the new Fifa 12 game. Liverpool are rated 4 1/2 star ... when wait for it.... Tottenham are 5 star! haha - What a load of tosh! Lee YNWA - No Suso or Raheem either! :(
That's Fifa 12 for ya ... PES12 all the way.
They finished above us- again- last season and they just gave us a heavy beating--- so?
Tottenham aren't good enough to be 5 stars...but we're not good enough to be 4 and a half stars yet :P
What do stars mean when you've got pure skill -McMenemy
28 Sep 2011 22:08:15
cant believe the negativity about charlie adam the guy is a quality footballer who makes things happen. He may make a wrong pass now and then but thats because he takes a gamble but he makes things happen and he as a lot of creativity. I would say he as more goals in him than alonso and it it took alonso a couple of years to settle into the team.
Look how many goals adam as had a piece in this season and he is always danger at set pieces something we have not had for a long time. Adam is pure class and we should appreciate him.
Mighty reds
I dont think its his passing ability or his set pieces that people are complaining about and if they are then they are wrong. the problem with adam is his is slow. he struggles to keep up with the game and when he stays back he cant get to the wings quick enough to cover the full backs. a gd player but i would like to see henderson given his chance in the middle and kuyt and his work rate on the wing.
GMN
There are many problems with Adam. Against Spurs the problems exposed were: slowness, inability to track runners, inability to cope with being closed down, lack of close control, amount of slly fouls given away. However, Charlie is 25 and has many great qualities. We must not forget he was playing in the Championship not long ago and it will take him a while to adapt to being closed down and man-marked as often as he will at this level. In my opinion, he's shown enough quality to be a worthwhile gamble; even if it takes him 2 years to settle, we'll still get 3 seasons of quality football out of him. He shouldn't be expected to be perfect straight away
Red Ollie
I watched the game against Wolves again the other night and everything that was good about our play came through Adam - he scored/set-up the first goal, passed to Enrique to release Suarez for the second and set-up Downing for his one on one with a quick counter-attack. Of the 8-goals we have scored in the PL this year Adam has scored 1 (maybe 2 if he is given the goal against Wolves) and assisted 3 so he has had a considerable input into half the goals we have scored. I also noticed a lot of the time when we lost the ball he was the first one back in a defensive position. In fact I noticed that for all the criticism that Lucas and Adam received after that game, Wolves created very few chances through the middle of the pitch, every chance came from crosses from out wide.
Have to say that Jarvis did look particularly good and gave Kelly a rough ride especially in the second half. If we are still looking for a good wide-man I think he is definitely worth a punt.
JRG
It doesn't matter who plays in our midfield we've had Gerrard, Alonso and Mascherano 3 of the worlds best midfielders and still not won anything or even maintained good possession.
So stop blaming Adam (class player) and the rest when it,s obvious the problem is when we lose possession our midfield have to work extremely hard to cover the space because the back 4 is sitting back on the edge of our own penalty area instead of pushing up: This problem is even more apparent when we take the lead; as we did against Wolves.
kidmillions
28 Sep 2011 22:01:24
If your wondering why i wrote that about Timoly, he's tried rippin me on the Rangers site, goes on about meeting me, only one Timoly been copied but no one better then about 10
Kisses blown to me, is what he wrote, just like a Utd fan. A smug Celtic/Utd fan end of story. Thats why i wrote what i did. Not because of anything he's said on here but he you should be careful what you wish for Timmy. Go on the Ger's site to rip me. I'll rip you back on here. Jonson6
I did wonder what he,d done to offend you but if thats what he did he deserves every thing you throw back at him he has to learn if you give it you have to learn to take it i think your the best man for the job to teach him how to take it jonson6 lol
giblet
28 Sep 2011 19:33:25
ed i know you've said you dont see much business beoing done in January but with two centre halfs we've bein previously linked with(Rolando and Cahill)out of contract in the summer surely theres a bargain to be had,maybe 6million for each?also was just wondering if you think Andre Wisdom will make it at the club good player... {Ed002's Note - I don't see Rolando or Cahill signing for Liverpool - sorry.}
Do you not think Cahill could sign ed? It seems that Spurs are the only other club in for him; if we let them sign him and didn't try ourselves I think we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot big time
Red Ollie {Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware the interest in him from us was no more than a passing question from Kenny to Owen Coyle. Thankfully, he is not that good and we should be glad we didn't get him, have you not been watching him this season?}
I know he's been pretty poor this season but so have Henderson and Adam and I still have faith in them ;) I wouldn't say make him an automatic starter, Carragher and Agger are a pretty great partnership imo. But when Agger is injured (ie. most of the time) we have no central defenders who are quick on the turn and can chase down someone running in behind. That means the defence plays really deep and it gives so much space in front of our defence, which the opposition love. Against Wolves for a while in the 2nd half it seemed like every 2nd ball was going to their midfield, just in front of our defence. I think we need to close up that space by playing a higher line, and we need someone with Cahill's pace to be able to do that. He'd come at a reduced price, have resale value as an international player and we'd stop Spurs strengthening their team; where's the risk?
Red Ollie {Ed001's Note - Cahill is not exactly quick on the turn. I fail to see why he is needed.}
Barca are looking to sign him in jan also
28 Sep 2011 20:22:43
My team vs Toffs.
Reina
Kelly Carra Skrtel Enrique
Kuyt Lucas Adam Downing
Carroll Suarez
Subs-
Doni
Gerrard
Coates
Henderson
Bellamy
Aurelio(he's back rite?)
Spearing
Stevie doesn't start cos he's juz back. Maybe 30mins as a sub, prob replacing adam.
If have a feeling andy carroll is going to score in this game. Maybe even more than once. We shall see.
Btw, tho I live on the other side of the planet, I really appreciate the partnership that LFC has agreed with Liverpool city council to help youth with future job opportunities. It's so good to noe I love a club that gives back to the community around it.
YNWA!
Singapore Red :-)
David Cameron doesn't have a chance
-McMenemy
Bout right I say though Hendo in door dirk and flanno instead of fabio.
Realistic red
What if Adam is man of the match? Still bring him off! sideways digs!
Football is live and played off the cuff and you react to situations as they develop.
You can't plan to take ie Adam off and replace him with Gerrard? Nonsense!
kidmillions
28 Sep 2011 19:03:18
We need a big clearout in january or maybe next summer lets get rid of some deadwood, first to go carrol i would sell him back to newcastle for a mars bar and a packet of fruit bon bons pardew loves them. Then adam has to go ive seen more pace in a submarine going backwards up a hill, then i think hendersonmaybe kk should tell him you are allowed to pass the ball forward.
Suarez wants to go anyway, so yeah why not.
Spoken like a true fan... Not...
Myk
Never would any of those be sold although I would love to have the money paid for them all back and start again! We have to make the best of what we got.
Ash
If you are Liverpool fans then I'm shocked to be associated with you.
We will win against everton, Carroll will bang them in and you will love him.
Realistic red.
First 2 posts are transparently from Manchester and Ash is the most negative poster on this site. Carroll will prove you all wrong eventually but you might see the best of him sooner rather than later if you try to SUPPORT your team.
cozinoz
Cozinoz and Realistic Red have given the proverbial nail a very significant thump on the head here.
Red Owl
Disagree about selling carrol. He is definitely improving. But charlie adam has to go. Sloppy, slow... i wud take 5 million for him, complete waste of space n replace him with james mccarthy.
Indian Buzzer
I guess cozinoz, only time will tell whether I, or you are right. You say I'm negative, but I believe we have some quality players in our squad. Johnson, Coates and Kelly are good enough, we have a fantastic young player in Suso coming through, Lucas has made the grade and Suarez is one of the most complete players I've ever seen. It really is only those 3 I have an issue with.
Ash
By 'those 3' i guess you mean Adam, Henderson and Carroll? I don't doubt you're a Liverpool fan, Ash, but I'll remember your name and stick it to you when they come good.
Regardless of form, they were selected by Kenny Dalglish and are LFC players and get my full support week in, week out until they no longer play for us. If they have a good game, they get praise and accolades. If they have a bad game, they get understanding and encouragement. There's nothing blind about it - it's just showing support for the players who choose to wear our badge. I don't know how anyone can slate Andy Carroll after the wolves game - he put in 100% and rarely made a wrong decision. He deserves the support.
cozinoz
Cozinoz, I fully expect to be hung out to dry on here should they come good. I always leave a name and I'm not shy of voicing my opinions on here, but I never voice them when I am at a game. Never. I also belive that football is a game that should be played quickly and on the ground Adam and Carroll are unfortunately a detriment to both which I just cannot get on board with. Henderson, in his defence, has a fantastic engine and it is hard to fully judge him as I believe he should play through the middle and not out wide. Also, forgot to mention that Enrique is probably the best LB in the league, so all in all, we have the back 4 of a future title-winning team.
Ash
Ash dont you feel as if you are hitting your head against a brick wall, they wear blinders,to thy own self be true, doesnt apply here.silent majority.
28 Sep 2011 18:58:59
28 Sep 2011 15:48:16
Dirk Kuyt for Alexander Pato
You heard it here first {Ed002's Note - I doubt it would happen without about £25M needing to be paid to Inter as well.}
Ha ha...,, AC Ed. AC. Isn't this the part where an Ed chucks in some witty sarcastic remark...?!?!?
{Ed006's Note - Just a mistake I suppose.}
28 Sep 2011 18:45:52
My team for everton would be:
. . . . . . . . . .Riena. . . . . . . . . .
. . .Kelly. . . .Carra. . . .Skertl. . .
.Johnson. . . . . . . . . . . .Enrique.
. . . . . .Lucas. . . .Adam . . . . . .
. .Downing. . .Carroll. . .Suarez. .
Subs:
Doni
Coates
Wilson
Henderson
Gerrard
Kuyt
Bellamy
LfcGirl#
Not a bad team go on the attack from the word go,cant wait for it.
king henry
I actually really like this formation. It's very similar to the one we played versus Chelsea last year after KK and Steve Clark came in, and we used it with great success. I don't know that Adam will be as mobile as Spearo/Meireles were in this system before, but we fit into this system even better now. And when it comes to Stu and Luis, they can interchange, and really anyone can come off for Kuyt, Gerrard, Bellers, Henderson...
Carra playing.We will deffo need to score more than 1 goal to win. We will concede a goal if old father time plays. He has had a shocking last 5 games( Fact)
As long as Kelly plays, we win when he plays. Also put downing on the left and leave him there, most effective there.
28 Sep 2011 18:40:59
Genuine question. Is Henderson a better footballer than Shelvey?
Chubs
Not for me. I feel Shelvey is the natural successor to Gerrard, and has shown flashes of excellence considering he is till only 19. I bet Shelvey was GUTTED when they bought Henderson - it showed a lack of faith in him.
Of what I've seen of Shelvey he has an excellent range of passing and can get stuck in. On the other hand, Henderson rarely gives the ball away.
Chubs
I think Henderson is a better player. He showed that at Sunderland where he was very good. At the moment he is raw talent with lots of potential and he needs to adjust to the way of life at Liverpool. Also he probably feels a lot of pressure considering his large price tag and constant criticism.
maka
Given the age of both I think the future is a midfield trio of a mature Lucas with Shelvey and Henderson.
Yes Henderson does not give the ball away .. thats because he hardly gets it in the first place.he does not tackle and doesnt make an effort to get the ball .. watch him closely next time.
Roy
I really think Shelvey has a lot of potential but I don't think he and Hendo are in direct competition. Until Gerrard retires, the only cm place up for grabs will be Adam's. Henderson is playing right-wing atm until Gerrard starts to play less games
Red Ollie
28 Sep 2011 18:40:56
My team for weekend. 4.3.3
Reina
Kelly...Carra...Skirt....Enrique
Henderson.Lucas.Gerrard
Kuyt...Carroll...Downing
Maybe Adam instead of Stevie. If you want to bring Stevie on as a sub. Bring Suarez on as a sub if we need him if not rest him then there's no chance of him getting injured. Bring Bellamy on mid way through the second half to add pace to a tied defence
TIZER RED
Ya lets rest our best player (suarez) in the biggest game of the season so far and play that donkey carrol up front
That's just what I'd play if I was manager, there's going to be some tackles flying in and think if suarez gets injured it would be a massive blow. Also belive we can beat the bitters without him, but would have him on the bench.
TIZER RED
I'd be tempted to play Bellamy/Kuyt up front with Carroll for at least the first half. They've been in derbies before and know what to expect. Luis could lose his rag and get sent off or injured but would be devastating if brought on in the second half. Carroll's gonna smash them.
cozinoz
28 Sep 2011 18:39:06
Red Ollie i see you posting more sense then most as usual mate. Seriously, if your injured or been injured, why not take up some prelim coaching badge and start coaching youngsters to start off with, first rung on the ladder. You dont have to be a top player to be a top coach. I know for a fact that Moyes was the youngest ever person at 21 to pass all his in Scotland. Thats before all these licences came in. But before it was changed he had the top qualification you could have in Scotland at that time when he was 21. Just an idea for ya mate not saying your gonna get to the Prem by any means, but stranger things have happened mate. Jonson6
Jonson6: I've been offered a place at oxford uni and I thought I'd be a fool to turn that down considering the benefits of a good degree right now, so I accepted that and I'm going there on sunday. I'm doing an english degree though so I'm pretty much open to any career after I leave. I'll be 20 at the end of my degree and yeah I have been looing at getting coaching badges but it's a bit of a pipe dream at the moment because I had to give up playing about 2 years ago
Red Ollie
And to be honest, everything posted on here is only theory, it would probably never work in real life. And I'm sure there aren't many coaches who weren't at least semi-professional players in their day, even in the lower leagues and conference
Red Ollie
That's meant to say I stopped playing 2 months ago, not 2 years
Red Ollie
29 Sep 2011 15:14:34
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/get_involved/4653599.stm
You're right of course though blatantly go to Oxford.
Duckula
28 Sep 2011 18:18:21
hi ed, as the bust up with man-city and tevez, do you think they would ever be a chance in signing him, i know the question would be on high wages, but having him upfront with suarez and carroll and bellamy may i say would be a crazy strike force to have. dont you agree?
Tonkz {Ed001's Note - no, why would we want a player who refuses to play???}
Yep, it'll be like revisiting the torres era
Cuchulainn's Hounds
Please no more Argentine pitch dodgers..bad enough with Masch.
That because he wasn't happy im sure he will be at anfield
Tonkz {Ed001's Note - then you need to get your head out of the clouds and return to planet Earth!!}
Why, he has said he wants to go back home, he has enough money to put his feet up , he's nto bothered about competitive football {Ed002's Note - I still expect him to end up at Real Madrid in January.}
28 Sep 2011 17:33:05
The really sad thing is that most Scottish fans are so disapointed with their own teams up here (I live here) that they have to support a second team in the EPL. Normally that is Man U or LFC. If anyone else starts winning they will switch as they are the ultimate glory hunters!
Iggypop
What a random dig at Scots. Cheers for that you Pr**k! Certainly isnt the case for me!
Sorry to offend but I have lived in Scotland for 33 years and in my experience this is the case. Nothing against Scottish footy either.
Iggypop
I support Kilmarnock and Liverpool equally, and have done since I started following football. Happy when they win, disappointed when they lose, and will support them 'til I die, but nothing to do with glory hunting. Killie's the hometown club, and my dad (who's a Rangers and Everton fan) gave me a signed European Cup winning side football and got me hooked on the reds. Most people support a club for a reason, and everyone's is different.
Rugby Parker
Not my case mate, I'm LFC/Celtic through and through and that will never change.
maka
Not me bud theres only 1 team for me and that is rangers and that is the same for anybody else i know,if anything i have a wee soft spot for arsenal because my granda supported them but i couldnt give a s**t if they were in league 2 or top of the premier league,dont get me wrong i am a big fan of english football,but la liga kicks ass
So who do you cheer on when Celtic play Liverpool maka?
dmedly
I am a celtic fan i do not claim to be a fan of any other club. what i do have is respect for the liverpool fans. a lot of celtic fans took liverpool as a second team after the hillsborough memorial match at celtic park and that game brought both our fans closer together and much respect between our fans.
Whatever happened to scotlands footballers,remember when they had some of the finest in the world.
28 Sep 2011 17:28:24
Just a few thoughts. As far as I am concerned, the squad is better than last year and needs a time to gel a bit. Much criticism has been made of KD ( who I had my doubts about as a manger but he is there now so we MUST support him) but I have not seen much about Steve Clarke? When he first came in everyone was happy. He and KD were great. Surely, if the team are not playing that well then SC deserves some criticism as well? It is nao all KDs fault if we lose?
Iggypop
Lets not start picking names and start the random blame game.
The only issue I have is we finished so well last year, I think we got second highest points tally in the second half of the season, we played good football and had a good understanding between the players.
Although I understand we needed to buy a lot of players, I am puzzled why Kenny disrupted the team he had last season with throwing a lot of new faces in one go.Considering Carroll hardly played last season I would've thought throwing Carroll, Downing and Jose as regular starters into the team and then easing Henderson and Adam slowly into it.
Nothing to do with blame , or coaching, and I am not saying Downing is better Henderson rubbish , nothing of the sort , Downing and Enrique are the best we have for the position they play in where the same cannot be said for Adam and Hendo.
Roy
I agree Roy. I was not trying to blame Steve Clarke but just pointing out the fickleness of some posters. This is a work in progress and we should support KD,SC and the squad as one. There is light at the end of the tunnel.
Iggypop
28 Sep 2011 17:20:07
Ugly scenes in Munich last night. Tevez, Lescott and Ribery on the same pitch!
Sir Alex x
Funny but why on our page?
Tevez? Where was he?
G.A.G.U.S
Why on your page..to cheer you miserable scousers up..its a difficult job, but someone has to try!
Sir Alex x
What a whopper u are...firstly I think ur on the wrong page and secondly I think u'll find tevez didn't get on the pitch person stay on ur own page.
The 96 YNWA!
Very good slur alex x. dont need to cheer us up mate im still smiling from last night:))
king henry
He probably posted it on here because this is the site with the best crack, its a banter site i don't see the harm in fans from other teams on here, its mainly all in good humor so just give as good as you get.
always a red
It was a topical gag, needed to be read straight away, with a bigger audience. Thats why it posted on our site.
dd
Dont get the joke
This coming from someone who supports beauty queens like Rooney, Berbatov and Alex Fergusson
Sir Alex....."Miserable Scousers"? Why is it that Liverpool is world famous for its comedians then? Not sure I could name any top tier Mancunian ones? Can you? Please educate me....I am dying here.
Iggypop
You mean like kenny iggypop?
28 Sep 2011 17:06:15
People tend to have a go at players but for a change I would like too say a great well done to Enrique who has been amazing so far connecting with Downing, people such as my self were unsure with his transfer too us at sure with me never really watching him play but he's proving himself to be a bargain of the highest quality
-McMenemy
I too will hold my hand up and say I wasn't excited about his signing. I am prepared to eat humble pie even this early on as I think he looks great. He is a perfect balance to Kelly/Johnson on the right and as you have said, links up well on the left. I do like his passing range also. And most importantly - he can defend.
LIVERPRES
28 Sep 2011 17:04:20
Quiet happy to see most of the deadwood being shipped out but we still need to let go of some players such as:
Maxi (he is an intelligent player but getting old & so we should let go of him and replace him with a young & energetic player).
Spearing (the lad gives everything to the team whenever he is on the pitch & works hard non-stop till the end, but sad to say he is not title wining quality even though he is a squad player, would be happy if we have someone who is more capable than him. We have only 1 DM in the squad & if he gets injured we lacks very much in that area).
Aurelio (too injury prone & getting old, better give young Flanno & Robbo the chance and they have shown they can handle the pressure when called upon)
Our current squad is more than enough to take that 4th spot if the players perform up to their level.
In my opinion LFC is still 3 or 4 players away from a title-wining squad.
-a quality right winger (Ryad Boodebouz/Marko Marin/Adam Johnson)
-a strong defensive midfielder (Moussa Sissoko/Freddy Guarin/Ever Banega)
-a clinical striker (If Big Andy can't score 20 goals/ season),
-one more experienced young strong centre-back who can lead the defense & take the leadership to replace Ageing Carra but someone with more pace, power (Ryan Shawcross for me, would even pay 20M for him, he is now the best in England Mr. Capello should pair Ryan with John Terry at the back for England)
I agree but instead of shawcross i would get cahill 5/6 mil if that in jan
Coates will be fine lads, we don't need another Centre Back.
Id get shawcross aswell as coates,shawcross really has proven himself to be a great cb.
king henry
I've never thought much of Spearing until this year but I thought he was solid at the end of last season. He's got bags of energy and commitment, he can pick out a pass, and loves LFC - well worth keeping in the squad even if he's not a regular.
cozinoz
28 Sep 2011 16:55:14
Timolloy you are what you are lad. A troll, even one of your own fans said so. I said Celtic are my second team, but your a Utd fan end of. Yet their's no doubt in the near future that you'll be comparing Jock Stein to Bill Shankly and coming out with some quote about tradition or some other cock and bull. And signing off lad, your pissing up the wrong tree when it comes to signing off. I'll do it no matter what flack might come my way. Pity you never signed off when you was trying to pretend to be a Rangers fan lad the other week. As clear as Kenny is the King them posts were from you. Amazing that after a Ger's fan put up what you wrote on the Celtic web site last night how quick you were to reply by saying you like all teams that play good football. Well better start supporting Rangers then pal. You rip City in your post of Dzeko and co's antics on the bench, but why not have a soft spot for them. Played some unreal football this season. Troll, Timoly, your a Celtic and Utd fan who wants to be everyones best friend on one site, then rip em on another. Is your life that bad that you have to go to site after site posting yous Celtic solidarity bulls**t, going on google to find out your quotes and crap. Thought my life was sad, you've just cheered me up no end. Jonson6
28 Sep 2011 16:13:06
The real KB
Nice one for the thoughts there mate.
Gaz I was thinkin we have to win the battle before we can win the match mate not that we arnt looking to attack.
Spriggo
Yea hear wat ya saying KB. Just don't think we should be to cautious of them.
Gaz b
28 Sep 2011 16:18:11
Ed, Does pato not play for AC, {Ed002's Note - Yep, sorry.}
28 Sep 2011 15:39:36
GNM, i just presumed you were a Utd fan pal. Should realised that it was a bit mild a post to be from one. But like you said pal rather be in our shoes then your's team wise. I like Chris Hughton, dont know what Brum fans think of him but i hope you get back to the Prem sooner rather then later. Jonson6
CH is the only gd thing at the club at the moment. gd manager and knows how to get out of the championship when he did it with newcastle. we have been in financial trouble before and that isnt the real problem its the fact that the owners are quiet about it and wont tell anyone just how bad it is and what they are trying to do about it.
GMN
28 Sep 2011 15:29:38
Sorry the Real KB for using your name mate. Jonson6
28 Sep 2011 14:55:35
Afternoon all. Crackin the flags today!
Read what someone had down for this weekend. I think the midfield battle could be all important for us. I was thinkin toward a 5 man mid with Kuyt on the right but throwing Bellamy on the left who can burst forward to support Suarez when needed. Baines is a threat Kuyt could help out with and offers the odd goal and great pens if we can grab one. Adam Lucas Henderson/Spearing in the middle.
Any thoughts?
Spriggo
Are you having a laugh!! We are playing everton, why go there and not look to attack. Get a grip.
Gaz b
As I said, if we play 4-4-2 I fear we may get run out of it.
I reckon Kenny is loyal and has faith in his players, so maybe he'll add Jay Spearing to CM. Suarez up front on his own ?
Battle away for 60 mins, then we got Bellers, big AC and Gerrard to come on off bench ?
The Real KB
28 Sep 2011 14:21:00
Timoloy, Celtic our my second team if you wanna say i have one. But you've been found out. The Rangers fans sussed you. And when that crud was going on with anti Liverpool posts going up on here, it was obvious it was a Celtic fan, more then likely you. You seem to have a lot of soft spots but i think the biggest one is in your head. Just a s**t staring 2 faced asse wipe in my opinion but your a fraud and stick to your Celtic and Utd pages where you belong. Coming on here like the Real KB is your long lost brother, to try and then explain your s**te about soft spots. Do one mate, the Ger's fans where right as i suspected about you all the time. Jonson6
Ha ha ha ha ha
Some of us celtic fans think he is just a troll.
Lol. Keep me out of this one. I've enjoyed posting on the Celtic pages in the past. Their ed is great, wee pat's posts are things of beauty and Tim seemed alright too.
I havent posted much in last two weeks cos my laptops down, so I don't know what I've missed. Lol.
The Real KB {Ed001's Note - sorry to hear your laptop is down mate, I hope it cheers up soon, maybe buy it a nice pressie or something?}
Johnson6 not getting down to your level, think what you want, my name is on all my posts, dont need any more grief get enough under my own name from sad rangers fans who can't take some banter. LOL Timalloy
28 Sep 2011 14:14:48
Would have been very happy if we had signed Mario Gomez in January to replace Fernando, this guy is on fire! But Kenny opted to sign Big Andy.
So far dissapointed with Andy like many of you. But
Andy reminds me of Mario Gomez, both have the same out look & the style of play is quiet same. Gomez also experienced a similar Goal drought as Carroll when he was first bought by Bayern as the most expensive German Player. Gomez manged just 10 goals in his first full season, but from 2010-2011 season onwards he has been scoring goals for fun.
I just hope big Andy will come good soon, we have to give him sometime. Against Wolves he showed improvement & should have scored a goal last minute.
IN KENNY WE TRUST! YOU 'LL NEVER WALK ALONE ANDY CARROLL! YOU HAVE OUR SUPPORT!
I think that they are different types of players to be honest. Gomez seems to be a poacher in the truest sense of the word whereas Andy is more of an agressive, aerially dominant player. Personally, I would prefer Gomez as I feel a poacher is exactly the sort of player we need right now.
Ash
I agree Ash I think they're different too, I mean ones called Andy and ones called Mario for a start ;-)
MUSHROOM
That is also true Mushroom.
Ash
Andy should have had two against Wolves
Cuchulainn's Hounds
I think Andy has the potential to be a goal poacher, but brings so much more to the team. Once his movement improves in the box he'll start scoring but even now he's creating chances for other players and has such a dangerous long shot on him
Red Ollie
28 Sep 2011 14:13:08
Would have been very happy if we had signed Mario Gomez in January to replace Fernando, this guy is on fire! But Kenny opted to sign Big Andy.
So far dissapointed with Andy like many of you. But
Andy reminds me of Mario Gomez, both have the same out look & the style of play is quiet same. Gomez also experienced a similar Goal drought as Carroll when he was first bought by Bayern as the most expensive German Player. Gomez manged just 10 goals in his first full season, but from 2010-2011 season onwards he has been scoring goals for fun.
I just hope big Andy will come good soon, we have to give him sometime. Against Wolves he showed improvement & should have scored a goal last minute.
IN KENNY WE TRUST! YOU 'LL NEVER WALK ALONE ANDY CARROLL! YOU HAVE OUR SUPPORT!
28 Sep 2011 13:56:26
The difference is GMN. Is that Utd fans constantly come on here telling us how s**t our team/squad is anyway. And constantly saying your's is the greatest. I agree that if you lose 6 or 7 from your 25 man squad any team would be weakened and have their options limited. But according to Alex, GAGUS, Sydney and co, you had all bases covered re of your injury list . Even with your injures. Just goes to show your half the team without Rooney. You could say that with us and Suarez, thats why we cant burn him out, until then we'll see. Jonson6
Totally agree any team would suffer with the losses that man utd have it just seems after the last 2 results alot of the liverpool fans posting have seemed to forget that fact. also im not a man utd fan im a birmingham city fan and when i see people complain about liverpool having problems because they finished 6th and man utd are poor because they have constantly lost to barca i think its nothing compared to my problems.
GMN
I feel for you GMN but that's what happens when you get dodgy owners in. We've experienced this and some other teams, who's fans frequent these pages, will do soon. They know who they are although they will not admit it.
MUSHROOM
28 Sep 2011 13:55:03
I'm getting a bit fed up with reading posts from manu and chelski fans, it may well be a banter page, but its an lfc banter page.
I for one would never dream of visiting another supporters page, i like blair and the likes posts on here but don't get why they frequent another fan sites, can we all just ignore sir whisky and his pals when they come on and they will soon get bored.
I read this page many times a day and it has become inundated with crap from other clubs fans, its not a thrilling read!
Hear, hear! 200% agreed!
SingRed
There is nothing wrong with good banter between 2 different sets of supporters. Sometimes you will read a comedy gem from one of them. As long as it is banter, so there.
MUSHROOM
You say your sick of united and chelsea fans coming on this banter page, im pretty sure the united banter page gets a lot of LFC fans on there. It's all tit for tat at the end of the day, aslong as it's banter and not malicious verbal attacks i see no harm in it.
28 Sep 2011 13:35:45
Guys! Any chance of Gerrard to be included in Starting line-up this Weekend.
My gut feeling is that Kenny won't start Gerrard. But beyond that, i don't know what formation he'll go with or the personnel to make up that formation. We've fallen under pressure in 2nd halves of Sunderland & Wolves games using 4-4-2, with Adam getting run out of it. This has then put Carra's lack of pace to the test, and service has dried up to big Andy. So I don't know what Kenny will do. Everton's strength is their midfield. If we lose the midfield battle, we'll lose the game.
The Real KB
Spot on lad , defo need a 5 man midfield . K96 .
How about a 4-2-3-1, playing Lucas and Adam the 2, Suarez on the left, Kuyt on the right and Henderson in the hole, who makes way for Gerrard later on, when we are 3-0 up? Bellamy and Downing could come on whenever, depending on the score and any injuries! This has win all over it!
Keith
He's played the same team in all PL games this season, it's a bit predictable. In my opinion he'll start:
Reina
Kelly-Carra-Skrtel-Enrique
Henderson-Lucas-Adam-Downing
Suarez-Carroll
but I'd like to see us play
Reina
Kelly-Carra-Skrtel-Enrique
Lucas-Adam
Kuyt-Gerrard-Bellamy
Suarez
Red Ollie
I like that team, and thats without downing and henderson
28 Sep 2011 13:32:03
Hello all
Re : new stadium
I still think that re-developent of Anfield will be the medium term way forward.
There's no big sugar daddys out there that will stump up the funds for a new stadium. I feel that if there are any naming rights agreements in place, this will be to part-fund the redevelopment of the existing ground. FSG are far too sensible and savvy to take on a 400 mill project at this time.
It's gradual and sustainable growth for the club, on and off the pitch. All the way.
The Real KB
Hi Real KB, where have you been hiding?
I thought the plan was to extend Anfield as it was the most cost effective way. Also with all the history and memories associated with Anfield it would be a wrench to leave your spiritual home. If Celtic ever moved out of Parkhead we would lose some of our soul, and i think Liverpool would to. LOL Timalloy
PS As a Celtic fan I love football clubs playing a certain way in england yes LFC, but I also have a soft spot for Man Utd (dont all boo) I like Arsenal, Blackpool and Norwich all for their attacking styles. I love watching Barcelona, Real Madrid, Brazil and Messi lead Argentine. Genuine football fans love watching other good football teams.
Just my opinion LOL Timalloy
There will be no naming rights sold for a redevelopment only a new build
TED
28 Sep 2011 12:36:07
Andy Caroll seems to be very out of form. I think liverpool needs a good strike partner for Suarez. I know its too early to tell anything and Caroll may get to what he was when he was at Newcastle. But if Caroll doesn't improve then I think we will have to buy someone. Who wud u fancy to be Suarez's partner. I wud love to see either Strootman or Luuk de Long at Liverpool. Guys who wud u want. Ed plz post it.
Mario Gomez scored a couple last night for Bayern so expect his name to be mentioned. Personally i think Carroll will do fine, during games he is constantly marked sometimes teams even double up on him which leaves space for Suarez to work his magic, and if you add a fully fit Gerrard into the mix surely that equals goals.
always a red
Andy Carroll is slowly playing himself back to form. I believe that the lad is knuckling down and working hard. And he will reap the rewards of this. Keep putting it in Andy, is what I say.
The Real KB
Andy has probably just had his best game for us and did everything but score, so why say this now? Support our players through their highs and lows, just like we did with Lucas, as January is a long way off.
Keith
28 Sep 2011 12:32:35
Eds or Macca
Any updates on the stadium or Anfield ?
I remember reading on here there would be some sort of announcement regarding the stadium.
Keep up the good work
Lurgan Red.
{Ed002's Note - There is nothing new beyond an extension being provided in respect of a new build. Expect an announcement of some type in a couple of weeks time or so.}
28 Sep 2011 11:45:55
*Charlie Adam and Stewart Downing should be dropped to the bench at Goodison.
*Switch Henderson to central midfield alongside Lucas
*Replace Downing with Maxi on the left, and start Kuyt on the right.
*Bellamy and Suarez should lead the attack, constantly interchanging with Kuyt and Maxi
*Defence should remain unchanged
Adam's massively hit and miss. Shocking fitness, drifts in and out of games, extremely ill-discipline.
We just CAN'T afford the risk of starting, perhaps even playing, him. Unadulterated LIABILITY.
Downing: will you all just STOP going on about this f***en' mythical "width" he "provides".
His importance and contribution has been excessively exaggerated; nowhere near what he should be bringing to the table.
Started off decently enough but has stagnated, in fact, make that REGRESSED.
A complacency has also creeped.
Drop him to the bench now; force him to up his game.
*rupertnorth'sxpertanalysis*
"I like tricks, I like to dazzle, I like to be able to score a goal with one leg bent round the other so that you smack the ball into the net with your wrong foot.
Dribbling and leaving your opponent on his backside is what life is for."
-KUN
Within your theory pre do tell where the creativity from midfield comes from? Adam must start!
Downing has stagnated - but you say he started well, so if we assume he played well (according to you) for say 2 maybe even 3 games, that means this stagnation you speak of has lasted what 3 games also? Wow he must be finished then? also you site that adam drifts in and out of games yet i've watched liverpool a number of times and wondered if maxi was still on the field, however i agree kuyt should start. Carrol looked much better last time out so have to disagree there also but 1 out of 4 aint bad!
Andy C
Judging by the Spurs game then I agree Adam does need dropping. He can't lunge into tackles again especially in a derby as he WILL get sent off. I agree we need energy and speed in team for a high tempo game against the bluenoses so I would definately have Kuyt and Bellamy starting the game on Satuday and if he's hada good weeks training I also start with Gerrard for his leadership and exmaple
Reina
Kelly Srktel Carra Enrique
Kuyt Gerrard Lucas Downing
Bellamy Suarez
Reina
kelly Carra Coates Enrique
Gerrard Henderson Adam Downing
Suarez Bellamy
Jay
Bellamy should start on the wing on sat for certain. His pace and understanding with Suarez is brilliant.
28 Sep 2011 10:41:53
Just proves that United's squad isn't as strong as they think... Missing what 5 starting 11 players which was deducted when Nani came on late on in the game..
Corkpoolred
Rooney
Nani
Vidic
Cleverley
Smalling
Fletcher
Hernandez
All missing from starting XI. Just goes to prove how strong the United squad is.
I'm sorry but Cleverley, Smalling, Fletcher aren't exactly world beaters so I would have to agree with the original post.
MUSHROOM
Lol cleverley has played a few games and Man Utd fans make out like hes the new zidane
Who said they were world beaters? The point is a fit Smalling, fit Fletcher & fit Cleverley will always make the first XI. Henderson, Enrique & Downing are not world beaters, but are Liverpool first XI players and would be missed if wasn't playing.
Cleverley smalling and fletcher arent world beaters but when players like kelly agger and aurelio are missing then liverpool fans are saying there suffering massively. not all the players mentioned are first choice but if they are members of the 25 man squad then every loss is a big loss.
GMN
Just proves how weak the squad is if Cleverley is a starter every week lol. Personally I would take Henderson, Downing and especially Enrique any day of the week.
MUSHROOM
GMN we really dont miss aurelio we have the BULL
28 Sep 2011 10:19:19
Ed whats the latest with the stadium?
Kabir {Ed002's Note - There is nothing new beyond an extension being provided in respect of a new build. Expect an announcement of some type in a couple of weeks time or so.}
28 Sep 2011 09:52:19
Im defo a Basel supporter after that match. Yorke said Fergie was boiling underneth and that makes me so happy when his face goes red.
Rocket Raj
Obsession once again runs deep.
G.A.G.U.S
Says a poster who is on the LFC site who clearly supports another team....
MUSHROOM
Obsession runs deep? Hey, maybe that's what melbourne cfc got under his skin yesterday which made him bleed blue. Obsession by Dolce & Gabanni. Well spotted G.A.G.U.S!
Cuchulainn's Hound's
Obsession? Are stupid or something? Your constantly commenting on this page you muppet!
BOOMBADOOMBADOOMBADOOMDABAYEH
28 Sep 2011 08:54:32
Ffs its a banter site, us united fans don't moan when blair payne + redeyedhector + lfc come on our page. Its all good fun suck it up SingRed or go somewhere else, u big baby WA WA WA who's gt my dummy WA WA WA...... {Ed002's Note - Banter is fine, abuse is not, so don't be surprised to see posts getting cut if they are abusive.}
Thanks Ed. You can't have put it better.
SingRed
Oi no name, what are you, 10? "WA WA WA".
wtf
28 Sep 2011 08:12:36
I say loan Tevez to a club in Scotland for the rest of the season then next season, loan him to a Russian team. Let's see how he likes football in harsh winters ;)
Ermmm, this is the LFC banter site ! What's Tevez got to do with us?
Many fans wanted to sign him, but this is what happens when you sign egos rather than team players. This is why I'm glad Liverpool shipped out any bad apples. Man City may have had some good results so far in the league but they will not have a team spirit and will always have players out for themselves before the team and the club, the wheels will come off soon enough. Someone gets £200k a week, they'll all start asking for it once they put in a few good performances. It's not sustainable
"EGOS"? You mean like Suarez?
When did Suarez go on strike and refuse to play? He's itching to be on the pitch all the time
Your getting ego's mixed up with enthusiasm. Suarez sees his arse when he gets taken off because he wants to be on the pitch all of the time. Saturday is the day, Gerrard and Suarez will be unleashed on the bluenoses.
Sooty
Suarez hasnt gone on strike yet but he has stormed down the tunnel and i seem to remember egos like tevez doing that. next summer if liverpool havent got champs league and a top team from england or spain come knocking dont be surprised if suarez asks to leave. you cant trust players in this generation. i believe torres said at the start of jan he wanted to stay at anfield and he followed through on that didnt he?
GMN
Fair play GMN, you never know, I wouldn't begrudge someone if we were't matching their ambition, but for players where it's just money motivated is another matter. Hence playes signing for that rich Russian mob.
Suarez never stormed down the tunnel ever. he has always took his place on the bench so stop talking bull
Suarez is upset when he comes off the pitch as he wants to play every game for our team. I will not begrudge any player doing that as it shows where his loyalties are. Tevez on the other hand was upset because he was asked to play! I'm sorry but between the 2 there are no comparisons. Get a life.
MUSHROOM
28 Sep 2011 03:56:51
We have given up on trying to develop Anfield and have decided to build a brand new stadium. A partner will be signed within the next month who will have naming rights of the new stadium for the next 10 years with an option to extend. I do not expect this to be common knowledge for at least six weeks but it will happen. The Robster.
Sorry mate- no offence, but the most consistent and most honest source on this site is Macca, and he hasn't yet changed his original post where he said that that LFC were currently favouring the redvelopment of Anfield instead of a new stadium.
Personally, until he comes back and says things have changed, I still think redevelopment is the way we will go.
If Anfield could be redeveloped, don't you think it would have already been done by now? I'm sure if it could have been done, David Moores would have done it, instead of looking to relocate to Stanley Park. It may be the preferred option for us, but it may not be viable.
RedSG
I understand your skepticism regarding Maccas info, but the main reason behind the decision to build a new stadium is 'cost effectiveness.' To redevelop Anfield to the necessary capacity is impossible. I could go into the details but it is boring legaslative council carp.
28 Sep 2011 03:16:33
It is about time other fans started using our banter page. I remember when it was first intergrated with the original site and it appeared that only fans of lower league teams posted comments. Occassionally there would be an interesting comment regarding ourselves by fans of other clubs but that would be a few posts back and forth and that was subject forgotten. Now we can elaborate further on our discussions and get further insight in to the mind set of people just like ourselves on where we could improve or how we fair against opponents (whether it be weath, quality, youth set up or anything else for that matter). My point is all fans should interact with each other, as we all go through every emotion following our teams throughout our lifetimes. Making jokes about each other is part and parcel of this as long as it is not deliberately spiteful. We should all acknowledge everybody else's opinions too, at the end of the day we are all in the same situation supporting our teams. Scouse Pride
Top post mate - finally, an intelligent comment on the subject.
LIVERPRES
I think it the humourless abuse that bothers people here, not the genuine banter
cozinoz
28 Sep 2011 02:51:17
Graeme souness has just been slagging Carlos Tevez off because he wants to leave a club that is going places! (his words, not mine!) although I personally think he is right,didn't he leave the current European cup holders in 1984? To go to Sampdoria? Great player but he chats s**t!
I think the bloke has been a complete tool since he hung up his boots. Awesome midfielder in his day though.
cozinoz
28 Sep 2011 02:38:12
hI eds quick question,do man city still have to pay tavez even if he refuses to play (godin) {Ed001's Note - they will be able to fine him 2 weeks' wages each time he refuses.}
Not a bad idea to ask him every week ,good way to recoup some of their outlay,he would soon change his mind,(godin)
Can they not fire him for breach of contract? That would surely make him a free agent and he could then head off back to South America?
Iggypop {Ed002's Note - They could cancel his contract - that would no doubt suit the player. The trouble is that they want £50M for him and that would be lost. Look out for a possible player exchange in January.}
Ed can they put him on gardening leave like happens to some managers? {Ed002's Note - Of course, they pay his salary through to January then he leaves through sale or exchange. However, it will be in the best interests of everyone if he keeps fit and trains.}
28 Sep 2011 01:58:24
I have a choice - I choose to participate in sensible debate with like-minded supporters. I ignore the senseless provocations, insults and degoratory remarks.
SingRed
28 Sep 2011 00:46:08
To all lfc fans and fans of other clubs that come on our site and disrespect us we had shankly,who retired from managing suddenly because for all the time he managed lpool he never had a night out with his wife or family. He died quite young and his wife said it killed him because he was trying to keep himself away from the club and lead a normal life but he could not. This is what passion is and these are the great men that built lpool it is not just good football but we were built with honesty,passion, and love. I can not recall any manager like that now. Shakily was not a scouser but fell in love with our club and I am not a scouser either and have always been a red and it is very ignorant when other people come on this site and assume all followers are scousers. Pool has a lot of followers from all over the globe paisley is another one , and many all over the globe. All these years saf has been learning from Paisley what to do and observing him to lead Manutd to the success they are having now but we are the pioneers, and you are learning from us. It is a sport in the end that turns into your second family, so people should think of what they come on here to say. Lpool is a club that brings joy to millions so have respect please.Hibsylfc
Respect works both ways. We respect other clubs as other clubs respect us. But try telling that to our own Blair, Redeyed and those who care nothing but slag other teams off on their pages (redeyed spends more time on the mancs pages than here!)
What's there to taunt about the mancs or chavs? We lost our bragging rights years ago. We are still a work in progress but to some it seems it's easier to take the plank off the other person's eye than to take it off your own, right, Blair?
SingRed
SingRed - we should be gratefull to people like Redeyed and Blaire who are prepared to go onto the Utd site and support our club even though we have lost our 'bragging rights' as you put it.
JRG
Cheers JRG mate
SingRed, are you for real? I'm f*cking sick of all these childish comments about LFC fans and Mancs, giving each other banter. I go onto the Manc site because there is better banter on there. I've been pointing out their flaws all season i.e how weak their defence is, how terrible their midfield is, Ferdinand is finished etc, etc, etc...Now in Uniteds past 2 games i've been prooved right and you expect me to say nothing? Not once on the Manc site have the usual suspects Sydney, Shappy, GAGUS, Mumbles, Matthew etc, etc, asked us to piss off. It's just LFC fans like you who dosn't want this to continue. And to be honest SingRed i couldn't give a toss what you want or what you don't want. Untill you buy this site off Ed001 and ban all "Banter" i will continue to educate the Mancs, on their site. Like JRG said, you should be grateful that LFC fans go on the Manc site. Have you not noticed when we do go on their site, the Mancs don't come on here? They are too busy being educated by us LFC fans on their on site, to bother with this one.
Ed, could you please change the name of all your sites to "Only when LFC win are we allowed to give the Mancs banter, because we'll have the bragging rights site" Cheers.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Ps. This page is getting worse, i'm off. {Ed002's Note - The point is Blair is that the Banter has over the past few days drifted off to be abuse rather than anything "fun" shall we say. The Banter if it returns to some form of normality is great for everyone - but abuse is unacceptable. That is what needs to stop.}
Blair, take a breath and calm down ;-) I never thought I would see you get so wound up as this. Leave the kids to play and carry on with the banter. Where ever you go it is always the minority who try and spoil it, don't let them.
Pep talk over
MUSHROOM
28 Sep 2011 00:37:56
Sir Alex? ...Sir Alex! ... ALEX!? ...we've lots to talk about.
dd
28 Sep 2011 00:35:55
Just a few thoughts about the stadium situations, well a couple of questions really.
If it's decided that we will leave anfield where would the new stadium be built? Have they got a site for it?
also Would we move out before the stadium is built? I know that sounds daft but in rugby league st helens are ground sharing until their stadium is ready so would it set up a groin share for us with everton for a season.
Personally the only way I would want to leave anfield is if the new stadium cleared the season ticket list, obviously that won't be possible so fingers crossed anfield stays
It has already been decided mate, Anfield will not be redeveloped even though thats what the owners original plan was. A new stadium will be built on Stanley Park and will carry the name of a sponsor. It will all be announced by November. The Robster.
28 Sep 2011 00:28:16
United were paying 28 mill for players 11 years ago, so i guess they didnt buy their success did they, what a complete doughnut you are
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There's always one isn't there? Citeh used an Arab's money. United used their own money generated by the club.
G.A.G.U.S
You've still broke the British Transfer record more than anyone G.A.G.U.S, since the PL began. You just won't be breaking it again, unless you get rid of your owners. The days of United attracting 30-40mill players, could be over.
Blair Mayne YNWA
Blair, I don't think it's the fee that United refuse to pay. I believe it's the wages. I don't care what way you look at it, Sneijder is not worth £35million and £200,000 a week.
G.A.G.U.S
Dont like agreeing with mancs but had to there :)
True, exactly why Liverpool can;t compete, we won't be held to ransom over wages. Hopefully we've reached a peak and Tevez siuation will make things settle down, it's not sustainable to be paying so much in wages alone. Players need reigning in, too much power, contracts mean nothing.
United didn't use "their own money generated by the club". Ferguson's undoubted brilliance and players such as Bruce and Cantona won them their first few PL titles. But after that they successfully negotiated TV rights with Sky in a deal which saw the top 8 clubs paid about twice as much as the rest put together, and the champions paid about twice as much as the team that came 2nd. Their fanbase and successful negotiation meant that they were shown on Sky TV more than any other club, and they hugely benefitted from Murdoch's millions in a way that Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea simply did not. Ferguson has done wonders at building successive great teams at United, but he would have found it much harder to do so had he not had Murdoch's financial support. Outlays on players such as Veron, Hargreaves, Nani, Anderson, Berbatov, Ferdinand, Rooney, De Gea, Van Nistelrooy, Valencia, Carrick, etc etc would probably not have been possible without Sky's support
Red Ollie
28 Sep 2011 00:03:59
til you name the players you are talking about i can not take you seriously Keith.
Morgan7
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Blame your lack of football knowledge then
Keith YNWA
28 Sep 2011 00:00:08
Mmm it's shockingly quiet tonight(or this morning for me)
Keith YNWA