Liverpool Banter Archive October 28 2012

 

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28 Oct 2012 22:37:50
Well, I am biased. I hate United
Even so, how on earth did Torres get sent off?
Football is now riddled with too much corruption and money.

Nino

 

 

28 Oct 2012 22:23:49
I thought the ref Andre Mariner was spot on with just about every decision today. He was lenient when necessary and pulled out the yellows when appropriate and helped the ebb and flow of the game.
That f***** linesman however.......

cozinoz

29 Oct 2012 00:29:52
Agreed mate, Marriner was great today, I think he accepted that it would be a rough game...as you said, the linesman on the other hand, how ON EARTH did he get away with that decision?! I'm fed up of something being to blame for us not getting what we deserve, Today's draw feels like a loss, the one point is rubbish compensation for the work our team put in. Absolutely disgusting, I swear we will be straight into the top 4 when (if) goal line tech comes in and it won't be a second too soon.

Couldn't say it any more mate. It was a cracking derby overall, ref was actually good today with his decisions, but that "disallowed" goal is a bitter pill to swallow (and to a lesser extent, losing the two goal advantage). Some great positives from the direction we're going though, can't wait to see how the next few seasons pan out in the long term.

Cuchulainn's Hounds

 

 

28 Oct 2012 22:18:56
Thought we started the game well today; seemed to be bossing Everton and got two goals.. then we lost our way.

Thought some of the refereeing/linesmans decisions were a bit unfair (Fellani and Miralles done far worse than Sterling did - how they missed the foul on Agger then booking him).

Everton did stretch us a bit so fair play for BR for changing the formation but we did look a bit toothless 2nd half.

Can't believe the linesman - flag was still down when Suarez was celebrating.

However based upon form before the game I would've taken a point from the Bitters today; shame we should've had all 3.

Hopefully we can get that elusive striker in January and then a couple more players in the Summer.

I think the team has a lot of potential and with a few more additions will be even better - I must say I like what I see from BR (Allen, Shelvey, Wisdom, Coates, Sterling, Henderson & Suso all 22 or under).

Hoola

 

 

28 oct 2012 22:10:01
guys we need to stop making the fa more popular than our matches,your giving fergie a reason to look invncible
why are we even complaining when we've done this for the past 20 years.
we just have to play our football

I prefer to play football on an even pitch though mate

 

 

28 Oct 2012 21:50:28
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how many executives that are presently on the FA board are also executives on an EPL team? Am I alone in believing that there is a definite conflict of interest in the holding both positions?

There is 4, and your theory is just conspiracy

Its not unusual , many industries have their governing body made up from the chairmen/board members of the leading companies within that industry ..
What is strange the FA have only one member that is connected to a premium league club ... I bet you can guess who that club is.

Roy

You are definitely not alone and this is something I have queried a few times, who are the FA accountable to? Why are board members of premiership teams also part of the FA, surely to retain impartiality they cannot have any club representatives as part of their organisation?

SMc

Why is it a conspiracy? They are separate entities are they not? You should resign one when accepting the other. Like it or not some teams yield more power than other's. The operation of the FA can on occasion conflict with the way a team operates. There is the conflict. You say there are 4, would you mind saying who are? The teams they are with and their respective positions within their team and with the FA?I don't think you can deny that it does appear that the FA does favour certain teams. To do away with this at the very least appearance of impropriety, you should only be allowed to hold this position with club OR the FA.

See here's where I disagree, I think you can hold 2 positions and don't see any issue with it. I misread your original post, didn't see you said EPL. There United, Bolton, Middlesborough and another team, name escapes me who all have chairmen or directors on the F.A board. Next you'll be telling me Bolton get preferential treatment. Get over it, move on and stop moaning.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 21:15:53
Can we not start a petition into how the fa is run because it wont just be us alot of other fans will feel this unjustice too

The throw in was a tough one! Never mind the dissalowed goal, suarez shouldn't even have on the park by then also sterling should have gone as well tbh

And Jagielka-last man

 

 

28 Oct 2012 21:33:57
Everton Fans laughing at our disallowed goal, well, were laughing at your trophy cabinet fellas ^-^

Yoyoman

 

 

28 Oct 2012 21:27:44
Forget Man Utd, this is a Liverpool FC site.
Bad decisions are one thing but to concede a 2 goal lead is simply not good enough. Rodgers needs to go back to defender school and get it sorted ASAP.
10 points from 9 games = relegation form.

Dr Gloom

Technically an average of 10 from 9 through the season and relegation would be a joint highest relegation total. (42, West Ham '02/03).

Cheer up,
ForzaRed

 

 

28 Oct 2012 22:03:13
How come Chelsea filed a complaint against the ref and Di Matteo said the ref decided the game, yet we've been robbed on several occasions and we've not lodged any complaint to the FA? Hope the FA don't get them screwed...
RedBeer.

The complaint is against something specific and nothing to do with the wrong decisions .. something the ref said to Mikel
Roy

They lodged a complaint because Clattenberg used 'inappropriate language' to players.

PR!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 22:00:53
Its going to be next summer when you see Rodgers proper side..the side he wants the player he wants ...a new liverpool playing the liverpool way mark my words..we still have a lot of deadwood the likes of henderson,downing,carroll,enrique,spearing,doni and so on...we will be force sooner rather than you think..we are playing good footy now and the young lads are getting up to speed with first team footy..it wasgoodin way they got rustled up today..all part of the learning curve that will make them better players!

PS When he is on it Suarez is WORLD WORLD CLASS
Lets hope Rodgers can pull a rabbit out of the hat in Jan and get another World class player up front with Luis

Jaws

No respect for any person who refers to players as deadwood.
Paul mc

No respect for any player just hanging around for a pay packet when he knows he has no future at a club.

Mantis

If we had kept some of that 'deadwood' in the summer, maybe we wouldn't be where we are today! Makes you think a bit doesn't it?

Keith

 

 

28 Oct 2012 21:57:42
ED, do you know if there is anything being done at all to stop this constant poor refereeing standards because every week, even if not in a Liverpool game, there is a shocking decision! {Ed001's Note - nothing but platitudes.}

 

 

28 Oct 2012 21:53:01
Hi ed,

Just wondered if you could clear something up, I seem to recall there being a rule stating that no managers were allowed to talk of referees before a game as this is attempt to influence refereeing decisions. Is this accurate and is it still current? I'm sure that Jose got a fine for this a couple of years ago at Chelsea.

Nevada {Ed001's Note - I don't know, I will have to look it up and see if I can find out mate.}

Both teams managers and captains meet with the ref before the game at every premier league game, so no, there is definately no rule against it.

What I meant was in the public forum mystery poster. Neither manager would do it directly in a meeting but I was pretty sure that they aren't allowed to try and influence referees publicly and put pressure on them.

Thanks for looking into it ed, let me know when youdfind 688
Nevada {Ed002's Note - The Mourinho matter, and the rule, relates to half time.}

The refs visit the clubs so how would that work?

 

 

28 Oct 2012 20:53:32
I am a neutral fan not really fan of anyone just like football been to most grounds in the country so feel I can express my views what I find really disturbing is how so many people on this site can go on about linesman this referee that Man U get everything you get nothing believe me over the years you have had your fair share and have even won trophies from it and this has been the only season were certain things have not gone your way so dust yourselves down get over it and stop blaming others and try to accept that's what has been happening to most teams for years and a lot of the times it's been against you! Ste c {Ed001's Note - except that is not true, it was the same last year, and the year before, and the year before and, in fact, every year since the Premier League's inception.}

28 Oct 2012 21:57:01
Ed1 do you think something fishy going on I know its crazy speaking like thise but mate we can't deny the favouritism man united get its unbelievable. {Ed001's Note - nothing fishy, just Fergie is an expert at putting pressure on officials, that's all.}

I was not only talking about the premier league but you have to admit you get more than most teams get or is that the blinkers getting in the way again! Ste c

What I find disturbing M8t is the influence Sir Alex has over football in this country.

It has gone beyond "mind games" in order to get a psychological advantage over opponents, after 26 years he is in an unprecedented position to dictate what happens within the game in this country.

The criticism of Referees is a very visible example of his influence but there are subtler ones as well. Talented young players are gathered at Utd and then loaned out in order to strengthen weaker teams against potential title rivals, whilst ensuring they can't play against their parent club.

If Managers do regular business with Utd they tend to mimic Sir Alex's complaints, Pulis, Moyes, Alladyce and ONeil all pay homage and receive support in way of loans and transfers.

If you upset him he can bury you and is not beyond calling in markers from others in order to get even. Look what happened when Preston sacked Darren Furguson, not only did Utd recall two loan players, Tony Pulis recalled a player as well. Why? to keep in with the most powerful figure in British Football of course!

I've just put a couple of examples here of his influence I'm sure other posters can add many more. My point is that know one in the history of the game in this country has been in such a position of influence and he knows how to use it and is not above abusing it either. GED

Yeap Rafa in his time and previos Red players have mentioned Taggarts unhealthy influence. Other clubs not previosly a threat to Manc u are now saying the same. Previously was excused as Scouse paranoia. Its wrong, got to be looked into and stopped for games integrity

 

 

28 Oct 2012 20:49:17
Rafael Benitez: "You can't have an impartial Football Association when members of that board are also executives at Manchester United."

Next you'll be saying Bolton get all the decisions because Phil Gartside is on the F.A board...get a grip

 

 

28 Oct 2012 20:26:33
Chelsea lodge complaint against Claternberg

Chelsea have made a complaint to the FA against Mark Clattenberg against alleged comments the referee made to two Chelsea players during the Blues 2-3 defeat to Manchester United at Stamford Bridge.

They said: "We have lodged a complaint to the Premier League match delegate with regard to inappropriate language used by the referee and directed at two of our players in two separate incidents during today's match.
The match delegate will pass the complaint to the football Association and we will not make any further comment at this time."

 

 

28 Oct 2012 20:24:29
Just read on the bbc red button that moyes reckons suarez was lucky to stay on the pitch!is this a joke the guy is a complete tool, should concentrate on his team falling over whenever a red shirt came near them, discrace after he wants to talk about diving, seems only one team that was diving, his!

He was probably shouting that hard at kick off that his contacts popped out of those bulging, Rango eyes of his and he mistook Suarez for Sterling.

Cuchulainn's Hounds

 

 

28 Oct 2012 20:25:26
not a bad point, thought we went a bit flat after 2 goals. very bad decision at the end but we will get over it. suarez was class today. we are moving in right direction. newcastle next, need 3 points. then chelsea, looked good today untill sending offs. imo will win the league and could be a good bet for cl again. spanish 2 are favourites but chelsea for me could do it again.

B O H

 

 

28 Oct 2012 19:52:19
Ed1 we are getting penelised by refrees and its really coasting us do you think as a club can we do anything {Ed001's Note - no, unfortunately not.}

I disagree, we can stop jeering and giving sarcastic applause whenever they do award things in our favour as all this does is galvanize referees against us.

As for the team, play Footy stop moaning. Stop giving referees reasons to be annoyed at us. It won't make a massive difference but anything at this point is an improvement. Let's not forget the ref could've sent Sterling off today but didn't so he wasn't completely biased as some think.

Nevada

Could have sent him off? U must b mad! His first booking was just giving into the crowd and that second was a harmless foul. People seem to have forgotten that not every foul needs to be a booking!
Jason

Must admit I too feel we have been hard done by, by refs since fergie had rant over Suarez-evra handshake but must admit I thought the referee Andre mariner was good today not great but good

 

 

28 Oct 2012 19:37:26
This is a Liverpool banter site let's enjoy how we are playing at the minute. Let's just hope Suarez don't pick a booking up before the chavs. We look awesome on the road and I think we have plenty of goals in this side. Especially on the break.

Mighty reds

28 Oct 2012 21:35:56
Mighty reds looks like gap is getting bigger and bigger now we are 7 points away from top4. I'm afraid before even comes january our top4 hopes might be over. We can say how unlucky we were 2day but can't hide the fact we threw 2 goal lead in the derby which is hilarious. Being optimistic is good wearing goggles is crazy

 

 

28 Oct 2012 19:32:45
U know what rodgers really impressed me with his changes at halftime it shows his tactical knowledge..but.taking suso off really made it tough for wisdom baines was bombing down the left flank freely until hendo came in..johnson was rili missed everton right wing was weak..it was tough for those young guys 2day..sterling rili tried though apart from the chance he missed..and I think its clear that sahin should not play against physical teams he's just not up for it..and the refree today wasn't just good enough..fellaini commited enough fouls to have been sent off...allen and fellaini what a contest... Suarez rili made my day the celebration was awesome ..moyes felt rili dumb and his player also dived today..all in all even though we were robbed a draw is a fair result though..everton can keep calm and know who the top team on merseyside is.YNWA {Ed052's Note -

I agree here, thought Sterling was very poor in first half and suso should've stayed on in his place.

Nevada

In response to poster agree, except was wrong side from the off. Correct changes were made, but again-should've started Shelvey,not Sahin/Suso

Player cant get a touch...sub him. Thats not tactical knowledge now is it.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 19:31:43
U know what rodgers really impressed me with his changes but..taking suso off really made it tough for wisdom baines was bombing down the left flank freely until hendo came in..johnson was rili missed everton right wing was weak..it was tough for those young guys 2day..sterling rili tried though apart from the chance he missed..and I think its clear that sahin should not play against physical teams he's just not up for it..and the refree today wasn't just good enough..fellaini commited enough fouls to have been sent off...allen and fellaini what a contest... Suarez rili made my day the celebration was awesome ..moyes felt rili dumb and his player also dived today..all in all even though we were robbed a draw is a fair result though..everton can keep calm and know who the top team on merseyside is.YNWA

 

 

28 Oct 2012 12:35:52
Eds,

I wonder if you have inside source on which position that we are going to strengthen for the coming transfer window?

1) Striker is our 1st priority. Beside Gary Hooper & Huntelaar, any other name that Rodgers interested to sign?

2) Looking how Illicic play, I think he'll be perfect replacement for Gerrard to play behind striker. We already got Jonjo but I think Illicic will be good addition & provide good competition for Jonjo. Is true true Illicic is value under 10M?


Hope Rodgers will sign another good player with bargain price just like Assaidi. He looks awesome in the match against Anzhi. What do u think Eds?


Thanks.

ItsJimmy. {Ed052's Note - 1) we have watched Hemed and Watt. 2) I'm not sure there is still interest in him and would think he would be a little more costly than you say. And I'm sure Rodgers will find some gems}

Hey ed
Who's watt?
Thanks. {Ed002's Note - Watt is a kid from Celtic who Liverpool had on trial and rejected a while back.}

28 Oct 2012 21:42:10
Ed52 gems like Borini who is 25+goal striker that once you said or we bought different Borini {Ed052's Note - I still hold a huge belief and confidence in Borini. When he has played I think he has done well, and has made chances and been unlucky also. When he is back to full fitness, grows more both physically and mentally, I see no reason why he cannot score 20+ over a 60 game season}

 

 

28 Oct 2012 19:21:41
LINESMEN WHAT ARE THE LIKE AY. anfield road

Dodgy very dodgy

 

 

28 Oct 2012 19:04:50
Crikey, you'd think you didn't have a game today as all you want to talk about is Man United. Deal with it, you are no longer competition - you need to concentrate on West Brom, Stoke, Everton and Fulham. You did get a shocking decision against you today...but I guess Suarez gets what he deserves...

How can you say that? We've completely dominated teams and the officials have been diabolical. I'm sorry but just watch we will be right up there with 4th depending if the linesmans can get the flag out his own arse

Careful mate with all your excitement,you seem to forget that the bluenoses beat you only a few weeks ago

Ed's; were the monkeys released from the central park zoo yesterday, a monkey is blabbering here, we really need to send it back to where it belongs.

Phil Neville anyone?

BthekingB

The whole point of our anger is due to Suarez NEVER GETING WHAT HE DESERVES so your point is totally wrong.

Jay

Crikey, OP, you'd think you didn't have a game today as all you want to do is come and chat on our page about Liverpool affairs. You need to concentrate on your own team.

Geoff winter-Radio City Saturday quote-"Ashley Young i seem to recall having a very poor low centre of gravity". The difference=English and at Manc U !

 

 

28 Oct 2012 19:00:18
I've seen a lot in this league! The FA (sorry, Fergie Association) is a mess. Suarez legitimate goal disallowed, Hernandez offside goal stands. Waoh! Something has to be done. It's becoming so glaring.

RedBeer.

David Gill FA and Man u chairman...
I REST MY CASE

Phooey..............

The football association have today officially rearranged their initials to AF for Alex Ferguson. He comes out in the press leading up to our game saying he never gets penalties at anfield. They get soft penalty. This week he tells the press they never get decisions at Stanford bridge and they get everything. All talk about refs and opposition players pre match should be banned.
Red 80

Boycott S*y. Cuts the money going into the game.

Just one quick question to all you intelligent bubble perms out there, isn't the the Premier League and not the FA that run the PL? Or are you all that obsessed with Man Utd that you don't even mind what happens with your own club or the rules etc of the game?

Sorry Phil Gartsides on the FA board too, so stop crying will you

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:56:08
Real classy stuff from Everton, Howard running 20 yards to try and get Sterling sent off, Mirallas waiving imaginary cards. Good to see Moyes setting a classy example, embarrassment.

Really ?, how about that captains of theirs supposed to stand by his trainer's example get's yellow for simulation what an person if you want to blame someone's team first look at your one

Belgian Red

Whats that you call them, the 'bitters'? ironic

Original poster=What do you expect? So twisted after 3 final wins v them. And Semi last year. Agree absoloute disgrace led by Mr. Jock moral High ground

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:55:42
Basically if you ref United and they lose, you get a lot less games afterwards at a lower level and earn less money and the guy who chooses who officates each game is Mike Riley who gave numerous dodgy decisions to Yernited over the years

If you get Yernited games and they win, you get lots more PL games simples

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:50:29
Just seen BR interview over the offside that never was..., I'm sorry Fergie would have buried the officials, knowing the next time there's a bordline decision he would have get it.
STAND UP and show some balls and fight for your club.., stop being a nice guy.., they win f...k all, otherwise we'll keep getting rubbishty end of tfe stick.
PistolPete

BR would like to win games fairly, and i admire him for that, i don't want us to win because the officials are affraid of a backlash.

No BR has seen what being cantankerous did for Kenny.

Ozone

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:47:41
I dont understand why anyone would be hating on Joe Allen after today, he was fighting tooth and nail to mark a guy who's a foot taller than him..showed alot of grit in my opinion and I loved it. Very poor decision by the linesman at the end, I have no clue what he was looking at..absolutely absurd to disallow that goal. Robbed again but we must keep fighting the good fight. Respect to Everton for playing well but those were our 3 points.

phillyred

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:47:26
the english game is turning into a joke linesman like him today need banned for life that wasnt a genuine mistake its a discrace there as to be an independent body we can appeal to fergie gets everything the lrague is turning into a bigger fix then x factor

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:47:20
Michael Oliver took charge of their first defeat, the February 2011 2-1 loss at Wolves. He was not given another Manchester United game to referee until December 2011. Since then, Oliver has had 2 United games.

United have won both, with Oliver refusing to give a clear Fulham penalty in the 1-0 United win late last season at Old Trafford; a game came right at the end of the title race. A few weeks ago, Oliver gave United a penalty for a shocking dive by Danny Welbeck in the home win against Wigan.

The second game United lost was away to Chelsea. Martin Atkinson was the referee then and some of his decisions incurred the wrath of Alex Ferguson. Atkinson was not given another United game to referee for an ENTIRE YEAR.

Atkinson was further punished with his decisions that went against United that day. He was not given a single premier league game to referee for a full month. Even worse, he was subsequently given 3 lower league games to referee that season- when he'd previously not officiated a single one
that campaign.

It seems that Atkinson was given a clear message that day.

The 3rd United loss came at Anfield, where a Dirk Kuyt hat trick secured a 3-1 home win. The referee that day was Phil Dowd. He was criticized by Ferguson for not sending Jamie Carragher off. In the very next United game Dowd refereed, he gave them a penalty which secured a 1-1 draw
at Blackburn and their 19th league title.

Giving United penalties in the very next game you referee them after having been criticized is a trend we'll soon notice.

The final United loss of the 2010/11 season came at the Emirates, where Chris Foy refereed a 1-0 Arsenal win. It will come to no surprise to people to know that Foy was subsequently not assigned a United league game for, again, AN ENTIRE YEAR.

He did however referee 2 United games in the cups during that time. The first was in the Carling Cup against Crystal Palace. He awarded United a penalty. The second was at City in the FA Cup. United got a penalty and Vincent Kompany was sent off early in the game.

To resume, we've just analyzed what happened to the 4 referees that officiated United's 4 league losses in the 2010/11 season. 2 of them were not given any more United league games for a full year (Atkinson and Foy), a third for 9 months (Oliver). 2 of those referees gave United penalties in the very next game (Foy and Dowd) they took charge of and one refused to give a blatant one to the opponents (Oliver). Martin Atkinson, was not given premier league games to officiate for an entire month and assigned to 3 lower league games.

I also looked at Mike Jones after prompting from the comments board. Jones refereed the 1-1 home draw with Newcastle last season and falsely awarded Demba Ba a penalty.

Subsequently, Jones was not given a single football game, at ANY level, to referee for an entire month. The next United game he was handed came a few months later, the 2-0 home win against Stoke which saw¦ You guessed it: 2 penalties awarded to Manchester United which, according to reports, were very softť.

How about Mark Halsey? Well, when he gave WBA a debatable penalty in the 1-1 draw at Old Trafford in May 2005 it was his 5th United game that season. He then also went an ENTIRE YEAR without being given any United games to referee. From 5 games in a season to none for a year. His
record since then? He's refereed 11 Man Utd games which have seen 11 United wins: the latest coming at Anfield, where 3 controversial decisions went the away team's way.

In terms of trends, considering what we discovered about Alan Wiley and Mark Clattenburg (whose record with no United games to referee now stands at 36 league games since he took charge of the 6-1 home loss to City), there's enough to make you wonder what exactly is going on in the
referee selection process. It also ties in perfectly with ex referee Jeff Winter's comments about The FA being reticent to assign United games to referees Ferguson has criticized in the past.

The whole world revolves around incentives and punishment. From a young age, kids are brought up that way. Positive and negative reinforcement are at the very core of child psychology. You can't blame people who are well aware of the punishment awaiting them (through the form of demotions
and suspension from future United games) if they'd rather go for the safe option of keeping Ferguson happy.

I don't blame the referees.

The people I blame are the ones that are letting this happen. The media who have not uttered a peep or written a single article about this for 2 decades. The FA who run the game in this country and have allowed this situation to fester. The clubs who see no issue with having David Gill, United's CEO, on the board of the FA. And of course, the PGMOB: the people who regulate officiating in England

sorry about all the pasting but interesting reading too much to be a coincedence!

You should of put your name on that one mate. Interesting reading. The F.A are a joke and it's so blatant that Man U get all the decisions to be mostly in their favour.

The F.A board should all be sacked for corruption and a new board elected (not by fergie!) in their place.

Crowsef.

Awesome Article

Anyone who thinks that it would not be possible to essentially 'fix' games via pressure from various places is deluded. It happened to Juventus, and it has been happening here for a while. The media hide it because it fits their agenda, and most people are just not willing to look at what is in front of their faces. Football is a billion pound industry. Where there is that much money, there is also corruption. IMO the FA are not fit for purpose, the whole lot should be chucked out and replaced. The stink in the air makes me nauseous, really does.

Nick

It's so sad that you took the time to do this. Concentrate on your own team and their problems and stop sucking on lemons. You had your glory years, who knows, they might come back. Blaming referees for United's success is pathetic. Yes, today was a day of very poor decisions, but let's not get into listing all those decisions that went for / against us. You see what you want to see.

Oh stop with the conspiracy theories, you can look into every team and find some ridiculous stats. Stop the moaning.

Ste-Utd

Struck a nerve with these utd ladies, they know full well that their success is built on poor officials rather than great teams. utd have 12 points extra on the board right now as a direct result of bad refereeing decisions...its the same every year, they are guaranteed 20-30 points. with good officials utd would be sitting on 8-9 titles. that's why there are ABU's. utd deserve and get no respect

Mate, the referee who was in charge for the 6-1 will never ref a united game again, maybe if was blindfolded and was given orders through an earpiece, only maybe.
AnfieldUSA

Manu have got away with murder for years - I remember when they play Shef Wed and few years ago now and there was 8 mins added time, just enough time for them to equalise and then score a winner... shocking stuff

However, i also remember Liverpool playing stoke I beleive it was, when stevie g was awarded a peno even though no tackle was made - ref said their was intent to foul, despite no contact - liverpool converted the peno and drew the match....

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:46:44
hit agree if u think suarez will score 20+ or disagree if u don't think he will get 20+

Well he already has 6 & could have been 7 but the linesman bottled it today. That would have put him joint leading goal scorer with Van Persie. A lot of fans, including myself, say all we need is a goal scorer. We already have that so BR was spot on when he said we just need to expand the team

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:45:00
BR says it is a 'constant theme' , bad ref decisions against Liverpool
Welcome to our world.
Nothing seems to stop it and Mancheater Utd getting more dodgy decisions in their favour.
Someone MUST question this. Not the media

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:39:32
Ahoy - if you go onto Google they have changed their graphics as they often do to celebrate a momentous anniversary.

Todays graphic represents the annual "Be nice to Miserable Scottish Managers Day" which is celebrated annually by the FA and and all referees globally.

BOILED ONIONS

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:39:07
4 refs slated by fergie in 2010/11 did not ref them agaian for a whole year and when they did they gave penalties why because after fergie slated them they were given lower league games to officiate as punishment!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:38:58
I liked Gerrard's celebration of kissing camera( 4-1 against united). But now Saurezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Is Fergie is in the list of Saurez?
Last week everyone told Saurez and Bale dived. This week Young and Phil. No one will complain because they are English and not Lfc players
st
ynwa

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:25:31
Fergie talks out of his a***. What about when Berbatov hangs a leg and is going down before he's touched to win a pen a few years ago. He's a joke. They are the most poxy team in the world for refereeing decisions.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:21:34
Does Torres miss just one game or three... we got Newcastle then Chelsea... just hoping :-)
john

And the capital one cup midweek. However, they both will only miss 1 game as Ivanovic foul will be deemed to be more of a professional foul than physical aggression

Just 1 for 2 yellows

Red1

Lets hope Torres plays against us. He is shocking at the moment and giving a lot of fouls away. Probably frustrated with how bad he is playing.

Mighty reds

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:20:23
sami hyppia beating bayern munich at bayern come back sammy

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:18:16
Dermot Gallagher (ex-ref) has just murdered the referees today on Setanta. He made absolutely no attempt at cutting them any slack. As bad as the result of the derby stung; I'm glad that people are finally starting to see that all those clowns have been deflecting people's attention from the real issues. 1. The FA is a joke, 2 the refs are inept. Solve these two problems and the game will be just fine.

Canadian Fan

28 Oct 2012 19:10:50
I know dermot personally, he lives in my town (banbury), and reffed a few of my game ive played in. He knows what hes talking about and will say things how he seems them.

Benny baller

Have you noticed that the so called big refs and their assistants doing the big games on tv always make decisions which become the talking point of the game instead of the football they then get all the attention of the press and tv they think they are bigger than the footballers they are costing clubs points and players look at torres sending off today suarez goal poor decisions that go unpunished it happens week in week out

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:17:54
Ed1 mate heard Rodgers has got warned by refree association that if he continues to ctriticise refrees he will be punished. Does that mean if they continue to do mistake we can't complain {Ed001's Note - I thought we were being punished already judging by the appalling decisions?}

I heard that the FA actually told Rodgers to seek out a plastic surgeon, practice his Scottish accent, and alter his name by deed poll, and then he could criticize and question - them, UEFA, FIFA, and any other organisation without fear of any fine or retribution!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:17:28
I wondered how long it would be before CFC supporters start going on about Fergie having refs in his pocket, which makes me chuckle because they always accuse us of being paranoid when it comes to Fergie and the FA...what a bunch of persons they are. They fail to see or understand the truth when it does not suit them, yet when it applies to them they're all over it! They got a hard deal today, feel sorry for the players, but not the classless bunch that follow them. Apologies for being harsh, but a large proportion of them (excluding Ed2) don't have a clue.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:12:24
Just watched united!! unbelievable!! First red is for a foul on Ashley Young? I have never seen a player go down more easily than him. The 2nd red was an even bigger joke. The winning goal is offside and is given.
Our winning goal is onside and disallowed. Jesus!!
Isn't fergison one of the managers against the introduction of technology...Wonder why??
kidmillions

Lets not worry about the mancs too much let's enjoy our quality performances at the moment. Away from home we look as dangerous on the break than I have seen a reds team for a long time. Really looking forward to Swansea.

Mighty reds

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:09:23
Think the linesman today was a Luis hater,''No hat-trick for you today Suarez''.If he'd put the flag up any later the united/chelsea game would have started,despicable !! B

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:04:35
This league is a joke... Just two facts to show you what goes on week in week out:

Suarez scored from an onside position --> not given
Hernandez scored from an offside position --> given

There are so many more strange decisions in ManU's favor it's unreal... It works for them at the moment but the anger will turn against them... It's just a matter of time...

For me many of their titels are worthless and no ManU fan should be proud of this...

Marty

Think back to the game at Anfield against United this season as well,
Suarez gets fouled in the area- no pen
Valencia gets fouled in the area- pen

Shelvey goes in two footed- red card
Evans goes in two footed- no card

Jay

 

 

28 Oct 2012 18:01:05
another game ruined by disgraceful ref and I don't know how Man Utd can celebrate win at SB??

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:54:50
Hello Fellow reds and Ed's, I did not think we played too well today, not at our best, but two games in four days was asking a bit.

We should not be throwing 2-0 leads away,our passing was not has good as it been, we seemed a bit all over the place in the first half. But in saying that it was a derby of sorts and an heated one at that.
Pleased Luis got his goal and shut old moyes up. Ref was ok, a bit card happy for a derby,the other officials well what can we say!!

We need to strongly work on our defence, it causing us to lose lots of points.

Different story when they come to Anfield.

Lee73

I agree we should not have given 2 goals away. Unfortunately keeper was at fault for both, poor punch back into the danger zone for the first, and then just ball watching for the second where he should have attacked it. The positive for me was BR changing formation in the second half and totally nullifying Everton's threat. Unbelievably poor offside decision at the end.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:54:49
To everyone whos commented on the Chelsea vs United game......Mark Clattenberg is the ref....don't be surprised! He's part of the A.Ferguson ref squad aswell! Check out his stats when officiating united games

It's been happening for a while now

K.Bennett

28 Oct 2012 19:14:59
I would disagree before today. His last united game was united 6-1 loss to city. Thats his first united game in over a year i believe. David gill picks an chooses them.

Benny baller

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:51:40
All this thing about respect to the referees is understandable; yes they need to be respected and protected, we all except that but with respect comes responsibility and with it comes accountability.
The lines man in our game have clearly made his decision on what the crowd and Everton players demanded, and the Ref in the Chelsea game is clearly not being fair (to put politely) .. how can they get away with it week in week out, surely if the FA demand respect to the referees then their should be punishment for referees that make the blatant wrong decisions ..
Roy

Well in the real world, if we was crap at our jobs we would be replaced! So whats the difference?
Lee73

Refs are scared as they get punished for going against utd lower league games etc etc

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:50:19
2nd half showed br's excellent reading of the game.change of was genius nullified evertons attacks very much.gutted by dissallowed goal.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:46:42
This league is fixed.united chief executive on EPL board.
Just look at the decision we did not got at our match.then watch what united get.a personic sending off and a offside goal.
Last united game cllatenbarg got was united loosing. 6-1 at home to city he gets game after 1 year and finally pays heed to his master fergi.
Disgraceful!
Red indian

Italian football was proved to be corrupt the premiership involves way more money

Red indian

Glad to see all you can talk about is Manchester United (biggest football club in the world).

Why would he fix liverpool game?
Liverpool isnt a threat to United

Yeah the league is fixed to stop you winning it isn't it? Hang on, you've got no chance anyway...

Utd 'fans' biting...you must have hit a nerve with them

Lol see you hit a nerve. Clam down little Manc boys!
AnfieldUSA

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:45:46
Just heard Moyes talking on , slagging Suarez off saying he should have been sent off for standing on Distins ankle (which I did think was an accident), did he not see Fellaini kicking Allen in the ribs while he was on the floor?
Can't have it both ways Moyesy!
Loved Suarez's celebration, absolute legend now, should have been the hero with the late winner as well but yet again we don't get the decisions.
Looking at the positives, four unbeaten in the league and only two conceded.

Jay

Jagielka pulling sterling down last man did noisy mooysee think that was a sending off

Mr Moyse has got an obsession with Surez and cheating , well Mr Moyse are you going to suspend Neville the diver for cheating, are you going to suspend the players who was claiming off side on the Surez's goal for cheating, are you going to suspend the players who appealed for a throw in and got it leading up to Evertons second goal Mr Moyse is getting very bolshi lately, perhaps he is getting leasons off of Fergie in readiness to take over the Utd job.

Bobbinred

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:45:30
What Horrible football you Evertonians
Play!!
One plus though if Moyes leaves
One Phone call your replacements there
in a Flash TONY PULIS come on down

Lyndon

Well we clearly outplayed you so what does that say about your brand of football ?

I'm red through and through but you have to give the blues some credit. They bossed us but unlucky with disallowed goal.

Yes and facts are that we scored a goal that was disallowed wrongly, therefore we should have won the match. Liverpool is red...always has been

You may have outplayed us in many parts of the game, but we clearly should have WON

If being outplayed means launching hopeful balls up to Fellaini at every oppurtunity and hoping for a knock down or second ball then I give up on football. Its an insult to even call that 'playing'.
Considering Everton were meant to be the form side, at home and come back from two down so had the momentum I was disappointed at their second half performance.
No composure in possession, no cutting edge and lucky to get a point.
Forever in our shadow.

Jay

Top post Jay.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:44:54
i think the fa pick the top four in advance as the other 16 teams get the sh** end of the stick never get decisions red cards etc the ref had a good game i thought but that lineman best move back to the netball field

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:42:28
Man U offside goal called onside, Liverpool onside goal called offside ...
Andrew

Dont forget also that if you play for man utd you can foul someone and get them sent off!
huddz red

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:41:06
My birthday ruined by linesman. Anyone watched manu vs chelsea. see Young dived. Torres second yellow (evan's mistake) and chicharito offside goal.
Now the time foe motm
Derby - Linesman
Che vs manu - Refree
Pathetic.
st
ynwa
( Moyes told Saurez dived then what about Phil)

I think Ivanovic fouled him. But to see that clearly you'll have to remove your biased glasses

Young dives more than a seagull.
AnfieldUSA

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:37:07
Just watching the Man Utd Chelski game, the lines mans decision looks like nothing!
Looks like Man Utd have used their transfer budget to buy another ref! Surprised they can afford players at this rate!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:34:27
Fergie has bought I mean brought his referee to Chelsea tonight

Mark Clattenburg is Fergie's little lap dog, one of those you can get in your pocket

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:30:25
torres just sent off tackle with evans similar to shelveys this league is bent

Why not corruption in the fa there is in every other organisation

Just like corruption in the old roman senate, it will one day FALL.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:29:52
What a hold Ferguson has on referees and officials. It's a disgrace and should be investigated.

If only we got a 10th of the decisions they get, we'd be top 4 no problem.

redmersey

It's gone beyond a joke now and is tarnishing the image of the Premier League. An investigation needs to be carried out quickly.

I know...and I'm not usually one for all these conspiracy theories or the whole world is against us mindset. But it is just ridiculous at this stage. Why does this keep on happening?

GuvTOB

In his after-match interview, Ferguson said that there was contact on Torres but he chose to go down.

He never mentioned that there was even less contact on Young, who also chose to go down.

Funny that, particularly as United benefited from both decisions, with Chelsea having 2 players sent off.

Don't even get me started on the Hernandez decision, after watching Luis have a perfectly good goal disallowed!

redmersey

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:27:54
Anyone watch the Chealse and Man U game? Typical Man U get all the luck. The refs are in Fergies pocket....

That's why we need to install the technology into Fergie's Pocket

I'm suprised Fergie has pockets big enough for all these officials.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:27:54
Well i see Torres got sent for being tripped by Evans, go refs.

If suarez is a cheater, What's Evans ?

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:27:23
Aww bless Chelsea now it's them getting treated like cr*p by Fergies army. When will this corruption stop?! They're winning 2-0, it then turns 2-2, so the ref needs the tide to turn so 2 reds was the answer.

AsianRed

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:25:39
Enjoyed the game and thought we were unlucky with Evertons 2nd and the Suarez goal. Linesman!!!
Still a great result away from home.
On the point of Brendans substitutions was delighted with the half time change but the Henderson change with something like 20 minutes to go? Was a bit unbelievable and risky, it could've badly back-fired as it left us with no subs so no cover for a bad injury and down to 10 men if it was to Jones? Well 10 men and no Goalie but hey! we got away with it.. Was surprising to see us left so vulnerable, I had my fingers crossed throughout the last 15 minutes.
kidmillions

It didnt tho so back off.
RB

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:13:37
Ed, why are certain clubs still so vigorously against
technology being implemented in the game ?

the way some blind men are chosen for being referee(linesmen) these days it would be good for everyone to have technology .. they have giant screens on grounds everywhere and would hardly take a 5 secs to make the right decision , less than what the players waste in protesting and the referees trying to explain them .. every top sport like cricket,tennis etc have done it successfully but the FIFA are hell bent against using it ..

P.s . On another note can the FA bring in referees from other countries to officiate EPL games or other domestic cup games ? As good as the football is in the EPL, the quality of referring is just plain awful ! {Ed001's Note - the clubs are not against technology.}

Just goes to show what a joke the fa are man u get a offside goal we dont get a onside one i think teams should be able to appeal against this sort of thing like we can again wrong red cards

I agree technology should be introduced but in all forms of the game and then who pays for it. The top leagues are just as important as the lower leagues. That is about the only thing I agree with FIFA about. Good for one, good for all. Not ALL grounds have cameras for every angle to check decisions made by the ref.

The only thing I would bring in and paid with by the FA or Premier League is goal line technology.

Gazza

I dont know about certain clubs man utd definitely are.they wouldnt be getting all the decisions in their favour.

The idea of goal-line tech for grass-roots teams is just a feeble excuse not to use it at all. Couldn't have the big calls being made by the book now could we.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:13:28
Matt Phillips - £7m - RMW
Victor Wanyama - £10m - DM/CB
David Villa - short term loan

no one leaving if any then it will be joe cole and pacheco as well as maybe wilson out on loan

I think out of all of them the only one i would want would be Wanyama i think he is class and would be good cover for Lucas, he kept Messi in check at the Nou Camp.

AsianRed

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:11:08
Quote from BR
Asked what he made of the Uruguayan's dramatic celebration following the opening goal of the game, Rodgers replied: "It was Scouse wit."
Hats off BR

Always knew suarez had a bit of the scouse humour to him.awesome:)

 

 

28 Oct 2012 17:01:08
Suarez has 6 from 8 games. The man is a goal scorer. Was too risky to play Assaidi against Everton but I think he will make his mark against Swansea this week & I expect him to get a good run of games after that. Besides, Sterling may need a break as he has played a lot of football for a 17 year old.

Didn't see the game but read that some websites are attributing both goals to Suarez. Plus the disallowed goal. He should have 8 goals from 8 games. We've got a goal scorer on our hands.

I'm sure if you take a look that you'll find his first 'goal' was in fact a Baines og since it was going well wide. One for the dubious goals panel but I'm 100% certain it'll be attributed to Baines

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:55:56
If you listen hard enough you can hear David Moyes b******* slapping the a**e cheeks of the linesman.

Red raj

You are forgetting you have spent more money in one season than we have in ten! you should be destroying us! But we are becoming very quickly a more dominant force! and you would kill for a manager like david moyes! stick with brenda see were you end up! no wonder everyone calls u deluded! by the way did you remember to put your clock back?.... Oh wait you already live in the past!

Ah, the myth of moyes. he's a scottish tony pulis, no 'big' club would touch him with a barge pole. he's found his level with the bitters, spending days on end cleaning their empty trohy cabinets and telling everyone about how great he is. what a clown

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:53:17
The anti-liverpool conspiracy continues...

I know your ED wont post this because I bet he thinks the whole world is against Liverpool. {Ed001's Note - shame, it would have got posted but your childish little rant on the end meant I deleted it all. I have also blocked you for masquerading as a Liverpool fan you sad little child. Grow up and go play elsewhere with the other 5 year old imbeciles.}

Agree with eds button required

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:51:26
Moyes talked about diving and Suarez did it (After scoring d goal)

EPIC !!

And the Everton CAPTAIN got booked for diving - ironic or what?

Loved that celebration

Red raj

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:49:52
Never thought i could love Suarez more than i do..but after today...What can I say, the mans a f*ckin LEGEND!

AsianRed

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:40:13
Correct me if I am wrong but the disallowed Suarez winner and the throw in that led to the bitters 2nd goal both were on the same side with the crap linesman? It was supposed to be our throw in btw. Sigh.

Was great to see BR so decisively making changes so early on. Shades of the Special One himself.

Great effort tho. Applause.

Singapore Red
YNWA

You're not wrong...

I think their second goal could also be because mirallas immediately picked the ball and threw it as if he hadnt touched the ball out.in my view tat is also conning the ref.
also suarez dive celebration was legendry even rodgers applauded it.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:37:44
Still slightly disturbed by it, but Gary Neville is excellent as a talking head. Better than all the others and commentators on Sly. Souness ok too. The others are simply airheads.
ND

Alan Smith is the worst.He's voice is just depressing. On ESPN i can't stand Craig Burley he really gets me mad and he thinks he knows it all. I have never been Gary Neville's biggest fan but he is a really good pundit.

Red raj

I like jamie reeves on espn nd also steve mcmahon

It makes cringe just to think of it but I am getting to like Gary Neville .. he is an excellent pundit and very fair ..
Roy

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:36:58
rodgers should be sacked! poor refereeing decisions game after bloody game,the fa's vendetta against poor luis,the price of petrol being sky high... it's all brendan's fault! seriously though some of you should get a life. brendan rodgers has done well so far. we were seriously ''unlucky'' again.
capetownred

28 Oct 2012 16:44:36
Another cape townian :) fully agree, fickle fans they make me sick, leem

I think the op is joking ;)

As much as i agree but if we are to use the "unlucky" tag then Kenny might still have a job

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:36:40
before it was the ref, FA,press etc.. now its the linesman, tomorrow maybe the 4th official.

on another note Enrique should be sold in jannary. too much touch before releasing the ball, always turning around with ball, awareness is always questioned. what a relief when mirallas was subbed. he destroyed Wisdom. good move by BR to replace him. Assaidi would have done a niice job late on but...
Error by jones but reina also does it even twice. Sterling should have killed the game. Nice dive by Suarez infront of Moyes LOL

Budashow

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:28:35
how many times will the refereeing cost us points....cant we complain or something....there is a real need for technology to be incorporated in the game today....the level of reereeing is just shocking....cost us 3 pts against united and now 2 points against everton!...bloody hell :@

FanFromIndia

You'll need to install the technology in Fergies Pocket -

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:25:58
double robbed their second goal was are throw in. br wont get officials on our side by agreeing with them .

You cant blame the referee for conceding from a throw in, they can't get everything right, and at the end of the day you should of defended the throw in properly. {Ed001's Note - you can blame him for giving it the wrong way.}

I'll give him the throw on the benefit of the doubt that those little nicks are hard to see in real time and we defended woefully. But the offside wasn't even close.
Andrew

But the offside wasn't even close.
======================

I would even understand and accept if the linesman thought it was off side, but the fact is he only put the flag up after a couple of Everton players put their hands up and Suarez was already half way through his celebration ....To put simply it was a cowardly decision influenced by the crowd and the Everton players and was not based on anything he 've seen.

Roy

Roy

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:25:30
We are averaging just slightly sbove one point per game under BR in the EPL

Its just not good enough

When are people going to see through Rodgers?

Our defence is a mess, SC sadly missed never mind Kenny

Sour Puss

Still very early in the season. Rodgers is building very nicely thank you.

Mighty reds

Sour puss get over Kenny leaving ya weapon.
JohnBoy

Yep look past todays result and how the teams playing. SC and KD? No wonder people think we live in the past, and yes i guess our defence is a mess seeing as though before today we had kept 3 clean sheets in a row, one of them against a team at the top of the russian league.

AsianRed

28 Oct 2012 17:10:31
Sourpuss - see through what? BR is doing a good job with the funds available to him. Refeering decisons against man utd and everton have cost us 5 points! Tough game away against the best everton team they have in last 10 years. He is bringing through and nuturing top young players. You haven't a clue

How can you actually say that after our 3 points taken away again?!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:20:39
1) That was NOT offside. Robbed by the refs once again. We won that game.
2) Masterstroke by BR to switch to a 5-4-1 after half time. Everton never looked as dangerous again, as they did in the first half, and the passing lanes down the middle were always blocked. Switching to a counterattacking style brought us closer to winning the game than if we had stayed with the 4-3-3.
3) Luis Suarez is simply one of the best, if not the best in the world, in turning defenders in and around the penalty box. He does it game in and game out. MOTM easily, and deserved a hat trick. Yes, he's selfish, but every striker expected to score every game, has to be. I hope Moyes will give him a 10 out of 10 for the dive he got such a close view of.
4) After seeing him take on Fellaini several times and not give in a single inch, I think Joe Allen has b***s of steel. It'd be nice if a few of the others grew some too.
5) Raheem Sterling needs a break. Looked tired and lost at certain times. Should have scored that goal.
ra1969

Spot on ra.
ND

Were you watching the same game as me?? Joe Allen was just bullied by Fellaini.

RedRover

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:18:21
Suarez is everton's nightmare haha, David Moyes say's he's a diver so suarez showed him how to dive LOL!. Then a certain Phil Neville of everton shows suarez how to dive, i bet Moyes feels like a p*ick.

Also the everton fans who threw coins at suarez absolute disgrace.

Suarez nabbed himslf a few quid

Apparently, Bill Kenwright was crawling across the pitch after the final whistle, picking up all the coins. Evertons transfer kitty is now sorted for the next few years.

Alan Partridge

Bet he thought it was a lucky penny when he popped in the winner! Oh wait......no what's happened here? Suarez score in the last minute and steal the headlines for all the right reasons! Can't be right best get the flag up! What a load of b*******! Would have been 3 pts off 4th but it suits the lfc hating media to have us in a difficult position. Still in disbelief.

Cheers
Greggers

Wouldn't say Suarez bagged a few quid. Looked like pennies and 2 pences to me.

Gazza

Those Everton fans wouldn't throw a few quid it would be the 2ps

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:17:42
We should all be buzzing after that. Great to go two up, shame we had a funny 15 mins and lost it...defense stepped up in the second half and kept Everton at bay. Although we all know we won that 3-2, no way was that offside for Suarez, completely robbed of a well deserved extra two points. Other teams supporters call us paranoid but really, how many decisions are going to go against us? Things like this happen to teams every week, but never as consistently as it happens to us. I would happily have taken a draw up until that point, but we defended like mad and fought hard despite being kicked all over the place by Stoke, I mean, Everton, we fully deserved that goal. All credit to Suarez, he played a blinder, and good on him for answering Moyes' incredibly unprofessional rant about him, funny that it's Everton's captain who gets booked for diving after all that! He admitted to it as well - how are the blues gonna answer that one?

Very disappointed but proud of our lads, unfortunately dodgy ref decisions did ruin what should have been an excellent derby.

Levelled itself out as Sterling clearly dived for the second goal to win the free kick.

28 Oct 2012 18:28:35
And I suppose the second Everton goal was actually Everton's throw in?

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:17:25
Well we drew with the team that beat Man Utd and are playing well right now, I feel the ref had a decent game and kept it flowing as much as possible, let down by linesmen I think.
We did not dominate possession as much as have in the past, this I was surprised with, however the team showed fight and looked better with the tactical changes BR brought in.
We have been cheated by the disallowed goal, it's not the fault of the Liverpool players or the manager, BR made the changes when needed.
The big let down was the defensive frailties to let the 2 in, just a pase of concentration and the questionable zonal marking.
All in all we are picking up pace and not losing, which is good.
Keep the faith and support, be patient, BR said don't expect miracles and he needs the time to build a team.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:12:15
Dissapointing Call From the Linesman

Eds if the linesman today wasn't visually impared, Suarez would be top goal score in the league, and people saying we don't have an out and out striker, Suarez is doing a good job scoring goals from the CF role, I think we need a winger that can score goals, someone like Bale, now I'm not saying we have a chance at Bale, but someone similar, thoughts?

Stanz {Ed001's Note - what's wrong with Sterling then?}

Stirling was great today. Drew foul after foul because their defenders did not know how to deal with him. He got booked early on then he had the sense not to make another tackle after his warning by the ref. He was outstanding! A real outlet when we were under pressure.

The Irish Rover

I can't see hime scoring too many goals, at least not this season, and that's not just based on todays Voronin inspired finish, think Assaidi might be more of a goal threat, maybe the midfielders need to chip in with a few too

Stanz

Unfortunately at the moment both suarez and sterling dont look up when in the box to see a simple pass to a team mate for an easy tap in.because of that we are missing out on quite a few goals.a little bit more awareness in the box would be appreciated

Above post astute and bang on

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:11:52
proud of the boys today for standing up to the blues today thought they played well in patches . some of the decisions were bizarre to say the least not withstanding the offside decision , all i can say on everton was if that was there best chance to beat us as they were all saying then i dont think they ever will as we are only going to get better and more confident

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:09:46
what an eoic game, robbed for starters... but what about the coins been thrown at suarez... pretty sure he kept one and passed it onto neville after the match.

so gutted but loved the game. Allen was close second for man of match.. him against Fellaini was a "tall" order. (like that?) haha

aussiepool tristan

No harm but i thought Allen was awful. The big dopey Belgian freak out muscled him all game and had Allen on the back foot. He just couldnt get to grips with him. I wasnt surprised to see Wisdom subbed and i dont think he would have played if Johnson was fit.
The Irish Rover

WRONG! The big belgian buffoon wasn't even in the game - he was marked out by Allen. Singred

Irish Rover

You do understand that Allen is around 5,7 compared to Fellaini at 6,5 (or there abouts) ?

I thought he did well today, he obviously was not going to be able to compete in the air but tbh that's not really his game.. he stuck in there and pestered. Compared to the performance fellaini had against say the I thought we kept him very quite for the majority of the game.

Wisdom on the otherhand was clearly struggling against Mirallas and before half time when BR could make changes why didn't stevie sort it out, perhaps drop a bit deeper himself so Skrtel could give greater cover on the right side?

SideShowBob

Get back in you'r box you muppet if you think joe allen had a bad game you know nothing about football

Hmmm! Not the way i seen it tbh. Some rating are already out giving Allen a 5! Not that good i dont think. Anyway, we move on.

The Irish Rover

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:06:35
Gutted about the decision at the end. But I am really pleased with the way we are playing at the moment. Rodgers really is using the squad really well. Enrique was a lot better today. Suarez was different class.

One Brendan Rodgers.

Mighty reds

Enrique lost his man for the first goal, he switches off all the time thats why BR doesnt trust him.

Red1

Enrique is a liability....I will be very relieved the day he moves on, which i hope will be sooner rather than later

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:06:02
Blue in peace here, the refereeing in the Premier has been woeful all season. Everton have been cost 4 points because of 3 clear goals been disallowed. All teams get decisions for and against over the course of the season, it just so happens we've had some luck against you.

I do think today was a just result. A draw was about right, we had more of the game but I can't really see much wrong with the 'goal'. Perhaps Coates slipped Jags a thumb in the box, I was always suspicious of him.

All we need is instant replays..
its way beyond a joke now.

Regardless of what you think was a fair and just result in your tiny mind doesn't take away that we had a legitimate goal disallowed which would have been a winner. Fair result my lands.
JohnBoy

NO a draw was not a fair result. we scored three goals and you scored two

GlJosh

Youre second goal was our throw in

Well in that case our results should have been Everton 4-2 Newcastle and another 3 points against QPR. It happens, deal with it!.

I don't have a small mind, I've admitted that it was a goal but these things happens and even themselves out over the season.

If all decisions were correct in the league we'd be even further ahead of you.

And we 'beat' Wigan 2-1 and to that end we'd be 6 points better off than we are now, with a record of 7-1-1

Oh my heart bleeds for you. In fact you'd be 4 points better off, maths not your strong suite is it.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:01:18
Surely that linesman has committed fraud or match fixing at the very least, Liverpool should charge him with corruption.

Or he made a mistake under pressure from the hate mob behind him.

Just look at the first half he played everton in when it was off-side then give luis off-side when he was on, then had a cheeky grin on his face when it all finished.
RB

Proving corruption is much more difficult than proving the linesman made the wrong call which lost us the game. Baby steps...

- Logic

Maybe corruption is a bit of a leap (emotions), but surely that linesman is at least guilty of cheating eye tests :)

 

 

28 Oct 2012 16:00:18
i am just reading some of the comments on here so here is my view.
firstly on BR - brave team today ,good changes when needed overall happy with the progress so far
Enrique one or two people say he had a mare - i thought he was pretty good today apart from the goal when he lost concentration overall a decent performance
Joe allen - cant believe someone on here complaining about his performance, top game battled all game with Screech linked the play a really good performance
Suarez SUPERB unlucky not to get the hatrick.
REF - shame about the disllowed goal but has to rely on the linesman other than that he tried to let things go and allowed for the fact it was a derby decent performance
linesman - terrible decision to disallow that goal,was he the one that allowed everton in very early even tho they were a yard offside,
brad jones at fault for first goal - bad punch
Skrtel was great, getting back to his best

overall i will take a point Everton away with the form they have been in a point is not to bad only a bad call(as usual this season) cost us.

moment of the match was Suarez dive in front of moyes absolutely classic loved him before but after that he is now officially my god

bigg2966

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:59:39
The worst Linesman ive ever seen

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:59:06
As a neutral (Middlesborough suporter) it was a great game to watch but Suarez should have been sent off for the foul on Distin. Good player but always a timebomb waiting to go off.

Not INTENTIONAL...

Get

Off

The

Bandwagon

No way - he actually changed direction anticipating the attempted pass-back to the keeper. His planting leg (using all his weight to change direction) was already going down at the same time and in the same place as Disdain's trailing leg.

Complete accident at worst.

And you need Specsavers if you think that. Or at best you're completely ignorant

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:56:12
That linesmen would be put down to the conference if that happens against man u!

Wouldn't happen to Utd..

Lee YNWA

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:55:12
**** **** ****en linesman the cowardy b******* how long did he take 2lift his flag he bottled it the flag was down &only went up wen the everton players started to complain its becoming adisgrace its happening all season ,we need to start stoping games look up at big screen within 2r3seconds the right desesion would be made ther gona have to cause if it keeps happening people could start losing ther jobs ie br IRISH RED

There's an old saying which I'm sure you're all aware of and it goes something like this ' You reap what you sow'. The cheat of all cheats got cheated. How ironic. Who's bitter now eh ?

Bitter, we could make a DVD of all the times luis has been kicked around the park this season... in all honesty I couldn't give a rubbish how he goes down when he isn't getting any decisions anyway! Phil Neville on the otherhand HA what a joke!!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:51:28
I hope BR bursts in the post match interview and the that linesman is banned for life .. Its our fault we are being to respectful to disgraceful thugs who don't deserve any such respect at all..we are being too soft rather than being demanding of what we deserve..time and time again season after season bunch of persons robs us of vital points and we keep our mouth shut like nothing happened..
People like fergu,pulis,moyes they speak non sense about suarez in the media and BR just keeps his poster boy image in the media unlike rafa or the King who would have fought tooth and nail to save his own player..

Moyes speaks nonsense about Suarez ? The guy's a blatant cheat and should've had a straight red or a yellow on Mirallas and Red on Distin. Take your pick. I think you need a guide dogs my friend. You all know he's a cheat and to try to defend him is ignorance. {Ed001's Note - Mirallas is as bad, now why isn't he in the media moaning about his blatant diving today?}

To 2nd poster.. would you not feel more comfortable watching womens football..
kidmillions

Mirallas was a joke today, dive dive and dive again seemed to be his game plan. Also, when did the rules of the game change for fellaini that allows him to elbow, grab and kick players all day long with no action from the ref? everton have become just like stoke, only a smaller club

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:51:13
Robbed. How Fellaini went the entire match without a booking is beyond me, kicking, shoving etc. Rodgers asks referees to stay calm and what do they do instead? Using Gary Nevilles own words; " He bottled it".

AsianRed

Did you see him boot JA when he was on the floor. Typical Blue S***e player.

Bottle brush was behaving like a thug for most of the match. Kicking Allen and Sterling was only tip of iceberg.
Wouldn't be so bad if linesman or ref had the balls to admit that it was a mistake. Very bad call that was fully influenced by players reactions. Officials should be above that. Back to Corona lemonade league for him I think.
ND

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:49:07
starting to look as if the premier league is as corrupt as all the other leagues around the world man u and sky all the way watch chelsea get robbed next!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:46:25
Surely Moyes is in the running for the job at Old Trafford.....he's already got Mariner (part of the A.Ferguson refs squad) doing him favours

K.Bennett

I thought Marriner had a reasonable game he was let down by a poor linesman who bottled it under minimal pressure for Everton defenders.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:45:20
Draw fair result, but we should have won with that goal at the end. We are six points behind them still which is the bad thing. They were unplayable upfront sometime today, like Carroll can be in the odd game.

Refs were all poor today for both sides but to see a linesman change his mind because a player waving his hands is a joke.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:43:45
Will Mike Riley be picking up the phone to say sorry to BR ? I think we know the answer !

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:42:11
Robbed.... That linesman bottled it, not good enough to run the line in the premiership, horrendously bad call putting your flag up 3 seconds after the balls in the back of the net...

Curled1

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:41:51
Sore sore decision at then end of the game, feel robbed to be honest. And for all the mugs on hear saying BR made the wrong moves. We have a manager bold enough to make these moves. It was a master stroke to be honest casue they were on the up and he so that and tried to correct that, hats of to the man and to the team.

So chin up my fellow kopites we are getting better and the team are gelling, BR not scared of making moves in a game and I love that. we used to scream at refa to make changes and be bold now we have a manager that has the baws to do it. Good game lads and roobed at the end. YNWA

Scottybhoy 1888

Totally agree with you mate BR could be a master tactition in the making.
show how well he read the game and how effectively he can change it.
Red 316

Yes it takes a really good master tactition to park a bus

Di matteo won the chamions league by parking the bus dont see u complaining there. anyway this was the first time you guys played football all these years you guys have been paking the bus
Red 316

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:40:38
ROBBED!
Redmanluka

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:40:34
I can honestly say Liverpool are the whipping boys when it comes to referees, suspensions and fixtures. They have hammered us this year. Its beyond a joke.

Everybody who watches us knows this.

I saw Agger yellow carded for handball today when he was blatantly pushed 2 seconds before - right in front of the linesman, something has to be said or done.

SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING

Gazman

Sterling first half on Baines??

2nd goal our throw in - cheating afoot

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:40:17
and just when i thought there would be no blatant decisions going against us...how wrong i was? blind rubbishter

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:40:09
I can see a specsavers advert coming from that decision what a joke

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:39:13
Man of match Suarez by a street. Also disagree thought BR changes worked and we controlled better second half. Tactical changes did work and should be given credit for this . The changes stifled Evertons impetus. Kid with flag bottled it. Suarez taking p-ss out of Golom priceless.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:39:11
I cant understand why that goal was disallowed, shocking stuff from the ref and its cost us big time yet again. Overall I think its fair to say that we where terrible today and a draw is prob all we deserved. I didnt see a liverpool team that had a system or style of play today. The team looked lost apart from saurez. Sad to say it but Gerrard does not influence anything for us anymore and nobody in our midfield is filling that gap. We have a long long long way to go before we are anywhere near the top 4 again. I hope Rodgers can get the team he wants and get us competing again.

N87

^ Some of your comment's are wrong i agree with the Gerrard comment's one thing he never did today that he always do'es is give the ball away!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:38:37
I honestly think we was robbed of the winner because Suarez scored it....

Square tomato

By far best explanation

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:38:16
That linesman should be made redundant, joke of a decision. As Gary Neville said " he bottled it" ! Disgrace!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:36:58
That was disgusting! Once again we were robbed of victory by a disgusting decision! Suarez was definitely onside when he scored! But good game - Skrtel was awesome in defence, my MOTM and Suarez and Sterling ran rings around the bitters defence.
Phillip Neville - he dives when he wants!

Singred

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:36:53
noisy mosey wont be calling for goal line technology now

alan waddle

That decision didn't need any kind of technology just a pair of b11s, linesman bottled it big time.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:35:58
Thought Wisdom had a mare, kept on showing the winger inside??

Suarez' dive in front on Moyes AMAZING !! the guy is brilliant, Moyes called him a diver why is he not allowed to respond?

And last minute winner clearly on side, the FA are trying to force Suarez out of England !

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:35:46
Ha Ha here we go again!

Refs fault you lost that! Your team was
s***e

Tree Blue {Ed001's Note - yet still scored more goals than you, so what does that say about your lot?}

Fair play Tree blue, you must be chuffed to bits to escape with a draw against the mighty reds.
Will Everton bring that game out on DVD cos its surely Evertons best achievement in recent times.
Well done mate, enjoy it. Some might say you even almost deserved a draw!!

Simsimo

I think you might find it was a draw although as we always beat you lot a draw might feel like a win to you and your hoofball to feilaini team who i cant believe wasnt booked for constantly kicking allen !!

Mate you were home and you still couldn't beat us imagine how we would make your a*se* bleed if it was at anfield.

You managed a draw with the linesman's help is that how good you are lol

Tree blue's love for his club is really admirable - almost downright blinkered! He could only see us moaning and couldn't see that it's 2 points dropped for a team who's 7 places above us and supposed to be flying yet couldn't beat a young team like ours on their own home ground! If thats not blinkered, what is?! Singred

Managed a draw? You were 2-0 up for gods sake better Liverpool teams would have won that today.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:35:03
What a apsaloute joke that is we all know we won 3-2

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:34:44
That linesman will never get a premier league game again. That is blatant cheating. He can't justify that.

BthekingB

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:33:44
I'll take a 3-3 draw against stoke. Should have the winner though.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:33:14
Screwed again. It's more of an expectation than a feeling of injustice at this stage.

Daveevad

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:32:51
really starting to think there is some sort of vendetta against lfc especially showing mufc getting of coach half way through second half are they taking the p

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:31:27
Cheated again by the officials...how long can this go on?

Flagg

Yes i guess it was the refs fault that you conceded 2 goals

One of their goals was our throwing? Hahha so yes

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:31:17
we should have won this game,i am wathing the game from malta.
these commentaters need to be ashamed,they robbed us the last min.
BR can express himself whenever he feels like refs are not doing there job.
i am very upset with all this nonsense against us

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:31:01
Cannot believe that goal was disallowed... Wouldve brought as within a few points of 4th place.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:30:50
NOT OFFSIDE defo

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:29:40
Robbed!

The Irish Rover

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:29:10
Absolute joke. How the hell was that goal not given? Robbed.

JFT 96

JP

Robbed ? You were outplayed for 70 minutes, should have been buried by that point and Coates rugby tackled Jagielka so justice done. On the balance of play we should have beaten you comfortably and had Mirallas stayed on then that would have been the case. We were poor today and you still couldn't beat us. Oh and I almost forgot, Suarez should have been off the pitch by that point for a blatant stamp on dithering Distin

Gutted!!!!
reviews/instant replays/challenges or hawkeye.
whatever ya wanna call it!
it needs bringing into football like 20yrs ago!
its ruining the game for everyone, almost every match has a moment when the technology would give the correct decision.
all it does is reward bad defending and punish the attacking team every time..

thought the young kids did ok, good game for all of them to learn n improve from. skrtel man of match for me.
only my opinion tho..
dbadger..

Yes robbed..

Can't remember Jones being tested much? Lots of loooong balls and general Everton nonsense.

Liverpool didn't play that well admittedly, but the linesman is a disgrace. When Suarez was asking him at the end, "What for?" .. The look on his face(linesman) said it all... "Offside" he was saying with a face filled with contempt. Complete an utter tool of a linesman.

Lee YNWA

To the unnamed bluenose, I agree that for the majority of the match Everton dominated, but dominating matches doesn't necessarily translate to a win, look at us against City. In regards to Suarez, the booking given is at the discretion of the referee, if he deems it a yellow then that is up to him, however a blatant goal onside is NOT at the discretion of the ref nor the linesmen, that is simply rules of football being ignored.

JFT 96

JP

Fair enough JP you have a valid point there, but you're not the only one's being robbed this season. We had 2 perfectly good goals disallowed against Newcastle and a blatant offside goal given against us against Wigan. I think the officials try to even it out with blatant disregard to rules and are obviously trying to keep the 'Sly 4' where they are for monetary purposes. As opposing fans we're always going to agree to disagree. Yes it was not offside, not by a long chalk but there was a clear foul on Jags from Coates, but, having said that the goal should've stood

Oh and JP, I'm sure you'll find, until such time as technology is introduced' that these decisions your refer to are,indeed, at the discretion of the officials as was evidenced this afternoon. You didn't deserve to win, rodgers parked the bus after the break. Yes it was a legitimate goal as per the non offside but there was a rugby tackle in the build-up. So the outcome was correct even if it was incorrectly reached. But then again 2 wrongs don't make a right. It's a can of worms and you could go on and on until you're blue in the face, but the fact is it. doesn't change the result

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:29:02
Once again liverpool cheated out of 3 points. This happens far too often and there needs to be an investigation behind the officials that are in charge of liverpool matches. What was that goal disallowed for?

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:28:54
Linesman needs shooting. That was a valid goal by Saurez to win in last minute and he gave a wrong offside. We had done everything to win today. Well done Reds and well done BR. Got it right in first derby game.
ND

Lads who had ever heard of that lines man before todays game how many no him now job done he has become the focus of all the attention because of what he did do you not think he new the cameras would all be pointed at him and he would be all over the press by making that very poor decision he has now had his ten minutes of fame lads at our expence and the FA wont do a thing about it

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:28:49
robbed by the ref.....AGAIN!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:28:21
nearly 10 games and BR has got us 11th in the table. I thought managers were judged on results.

So you are ready to sack our manager after 10 games? Despite unlucky results and the fact that success is not instant?

ChrisMiz

Shut up you edjit, we have been robbed by refs, we could have an extra 10 pts min and that aint brendans fault

28 Oct 2012 15:55:51
I thought seasons were judged when they end? I could be wrong though, you sad sad person. Leem

And if you watch closely our football is getting worse every game .xmas is coming and dont see us in the top half of the league by then . {Ed001's Note - or if you watch closely you would see results have started to improve and we are climbing the table. I know which I see.....}

Plus we have had the toughest start to the season, in comparison to everyone.

Piledriver

If the refs made correct decisions and weren't clearly biased, we would have been 3rd.
AnfieldUSA

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:27:45
ONSIDE - CHEATED

gazman

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:27:30
What can I say suarez was robbed of his hatrick!!!!!!
Man of the match performance as we expect from him, loooove the diiiiiiive in front of moyes !! ;)

Should hav been sent off for the synical foul on distin

No class... sums up Liverpool really.

No class? Moyes resorts to Fergie tactics pre-game, jumping on the anti-Luis bandwagon and is left with egg on his face when his own captain dives!

However, the linesman rescued him with good old-fashioned cheating. Why did he make such a poor decision? Because he wanted to. He had 7/8 seconds to sum up that Liverpool had won and Suarez was the hero. He didn't bottle it, he cheated!

Coyle's Law States........

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:26:47
The linesman will never get a PL game again

He'll ge promoted ffs, he's doing exactly what the FA seem to want...cheat Liverpool

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:26:12
ref is disgrace

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:25:02
Wonder how the ref will justify that one. Clear cut not even a question onside. F this. Why do we get awful calls?
Andrew

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:04:46
Enriques having a mare!

How? specsavers was invented for people like you

Thought he had an ok game didn't do anything wrong from i saw. All the defenders played out of there skin in the second half!

For the second everton goal enrique should have attacked the ball and clear it instead of waiting for the keeper to come to collect but apart from that he did ok.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:04:08
cant see us winning this one now, would take draw, now 70 mins gone. we seem to be lacking in midfield, dont like system changes half way through a game.

Your hanging around with micah richards too much mate , we should have won it . pro players should be able to play any system anytime

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:02:04
Joe Allen missing for most of this match

TC YNWA

That's because he was stopping Fellani all game, open your eyes

Dano

Which match you watching. He's been everywhere today. Fine performance.
ND

Allen was excellent today, kept ball flowing and battled endlessly in the midfield, getting fouled most of the time. Some fans on here really need to stop looking for non-existant failings with the team (unless of course it is really bitters and Utd followers looking to stir things up...??).

ConnorsLFC

What game were you watching?! He was marking Fellaini - took him out of the game! Without his ball winning and retention, we would have lost the midfield
Singred

Allen was immense....what were you watching

How was that thug Fellaini not booked? Wee Joe had him in his pocket too!

Coyle's Law States

 

 

28 Oct 2012 15:01:59
strange subs and formation hope he can get all 3 points or at least keep draw

Thats the best subs I have seen for a very long time he did that to have more aerial presence in the team and attack them with a lot of pace on counter attack through sterling and suarez great tactics.
Red 316

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:59:09
this is a joke how bad are we playing here 40% possession and all we doing is trying to counter att kicking the ball up the field what happend to BR way of keeping the ball like we getting beat easy to see everton had battered us for nearly 60 mins

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:58:42
When did Moyes take over at Stoke!!

Lyndon

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:50:26
What formation are we now playing?

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:41:47
very very poor decision making by Rogers to keep sterling on the pitch. Changing the formation wont change much especially playing 3 at the back when our Achilles heel is our defending at the moment. Assaidi needs to come on.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:41:23
Rodgers gone big and bold with an early formation change. Love it!

-Shane.

I feel the same this man has guts and not afraid to change his style when needed. we should have won the game through sterling chance and obviously through suarez .cheated again by the ref. well done guys
Red 316

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:37:44
Big call. Understand changes but sterling should have been
Subbed the risk is too great for a 17year old. Hope we don't regret this.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:33:55
Highlight so far, Suarez celebration.
Lowlight, our defending is terrible, never a fan of zonal and Everton exploiting it.
Hats off, blues playing well, however we are letting them! Steve G and Suarez are the only ones showing the fight. Enrique is playing well except for switching off to let Everton score!
Assaidi on for Sterling for me and shelves for Sabin.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:31:45
This is what happens when you play your strongest team for Europa league. Carra for wisdom - got to sure up right side - shelvey for sterling - who is a red card waiting to happen. Marriner will play massive part in this I feel. We have to fight for the ball - we are running scared.

Gazman

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:31:36
Quick first half comments, poor defending from both sides. Wisdom's been found out and everyone has been a passenger with no one stepping up to the plate. Jones, while he has been doing well recently, doesn't have the distribution qualities of Reina. Notice how many times he had hoofed the ball upfield rather than play from the back. We can still win this

Keith YNWA

28 Oct 2012 14:55:53
think u have been listening to the wisdom of gary neville mate

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:30:37
Br sort out the defence man all Everton

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:28:38
guys once we get sterling off the pitch we will dominate again. Play shifted after that yellow card. We are effectively playing with 10. Get assaidi on and normal play will resume.
Andrew

Do not agree with decision to keep sterling on over Suso.
Andrew

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:27:43
Think I would take sterling off and bring on Assaidi he seems to be struggling with the atmosphere . Hope I am wrong but I wouldn't like to go down to 10 men

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:25:53
hey lfc fans..........


i would change sahin for henderson..........and sterling for assaidi
and i think we would win the game....hendo will provide better steel in midfield so gerrrard can use his forward passes...

and assaidi can take defenders back towards their goal

red lobster

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:24:57
Unfortunately Wisdom getting caught a bit , needs some help. Don't know why Skrtle didn't attack ball, would have prevented goal..maybe time to bring on Shelvey

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:22:39
I think we will be lucky to walk away from this with a draw. Our midfield is not at it today. Sahin has been terrible and for me offers noting to the team, id put jonjo on and take sahin off.

N87

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:21:55
Dearest ed
You do so much for us LFC fans can't you help us find a defensive coach.
Red indian

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:18:13
After Nevilles dive im walking away from the game

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:17:34
Everton have played really well and our young side cannot cope with them, unless we start to keep hold of the ball I can only see one winner. Need halftime ASAP.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:12:31
Moyes has the Nerve to talk about Diving!!

Lyndon

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:12:20
We're letting them dominate, we will lose at this rate we need to start controlling the game and slowing it down, there at home so they won't park the bus and we could get the win...great game so far excitement wise.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:06:21
so we were 2-0 up and are defence goes to sh*t. Nice one.

I meant to say OUR defence. Oh and Suarez's dive celebration was a classic. Straight out of FIFA!

That punch by Jones was atrocious.
Andrew

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:05:57
2:2. Naismith. Cross not cut out.
ND

 

 

28 Oct 2012 14:02:29
Get sterling off before he see red. Not the game for him today.
ND

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:59:52
Baines diving to win sterling a yellow card.
ND

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:53:44
Eds, have we signed a new left back who is playing today? Looks different and playing different but same name - Enrique!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:52:56
Shame. Osman through the crowd.
ND

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:51:36
Suarez again. Yes yes yes. Answering moyes and his like in the best possible way.
ND

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:47:01
Absolutely brilliant Saurez. Goal and a big slap to moyes.
ND

Stevie gee the man , just reminding all the fools

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:46:41
GOoooooooal SUAREZ

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:46:40
Great celebration just for you Noisey

TC YNWA

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:45:58
Lol Suarez, love the celebration

Dan h

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:45:34
What a brilliant celebration! Well done, Luis lad!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:39:39
Enrique makes me nervous, plays with the ball far too much, and i was screaming for the over the top pass for Sterling but he kept it, and kept it and kept it and played a terrible pass.

What did i say, then he watches the ball go across him in the box for the equalizer.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:28:29
guys guys guys... i come in peace

sorry to say this...............

but word on the blue side is............
we will PRESS YOU HIGH UP THE PITCH...

your defenders will make mistakes..and we will score

or..you will concede long balls to us

blue velvet

You mean you just listened to Gary Neville before kick off

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:18:24
If we keep attacking Coleman we Will reap great rewards. He is not up to it.
Come on u redmen .
Marker

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:12:22
Is Johnson injured?

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:08:33
Ok lads Suso, Suarez and Fellaini to score and Brad Jones will save a penalty, 2-1. Here's hoping eh?

davethebutcher

 

 

28 Oct 2012 13:00:20
you can watch the game here (www.frombar.tv), enjoy.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 12:58:19
Confirmed Line up today,

________________JONES______________
Wisdom_____Skrtel____Agger____Enrique
________Allen_________Sahin__________
____________Gerrard___________
Suso_________________________Sterling
____________Suarez_________________

 

 

28 Oct 2012 12:53:33
Just seen team news..... 5 players playing in there 1st merseyside derby n Enrique 1st game back..... I think they will have to much for us today, everton are due a win against us! So I'm dreading the match already..... Can see them walking all over us! Good luck Liverpool we will need it with that team we have put out......!

Andy

 

 

28 Oct 2012 12:49:22
Afternoon eds fellow reds , just seen the team news think we might be to light wait for this derby think we will struggle .hope we can get a result but don't fancy it .

Keep your chin up mate, don't give in before the game start, will knock the confident out of them by passing them to death, a win for us by 1-2 that's my prediction. Good luck to the reds.

Half time ,2,2 Everton completely running us of the park need more strength in midfield ,hope Luis has last laugh

 

 

28 Oct 2012 12:48:55
Everton starting XI: Howard; Coleman, Jagielka, Distin, Baines; Naismith, Neville, Osman, Mirallas; Fellaini; Jelavic.
Subs: Mucha, Heitinga, Hibbert, Oviedo, Hitzlsperger, Gueye, Vellios.

Liverpool starting XI: Jones; Wisdom, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique; Gerrard, Allen, Sahin; Sterling, Suarez, Suso.

gutted Fellaini is fit he will be the most dangerous linking there play

 

 

28 Oct 2012 12:48:11
jones in goal johnson out enrique in . three esses upfront shelvey bench

 

 

28 Oct 2012 12:45:25
Brad Jones starts for Liverpool today as they face Everton in the Merseyside derby at Goodison Park - listen live online from 1.30 pm BST.

The Reds team in full: Jones, Wisdom, Enrique, Skrtel, Agger, Gerrard, Allen, Sahin, Suso, Sterling, Suarez. Subs: Reina, Carragher, Shelvey, Downing, Henderson, Assaidi, Coates.

Where is Glen Johnson!!

Shail

 

 

28 Oct 2012 12:33:47
Brendan you BEAUTY! you passed the test, you left reina on the bench! finally a manager with some freaking bollox!
Come on you might reds.
Jones
Wisdom
Agger
Skrtel
Gerrard
Allen
Sahin
terling
Suso
Suarez

Benny baller

Totally agree Benny. I really likr Reina but he has been rather pale this season compared to the in-form Jones. I suspect it is due to fitness reasons mainly, but I do like to think that he is instead being rewarded for some top goalkeeping.

Why are we starting with 10 men

 

 

28 Oct 2012 12:12:52
I had a dream this morning at around 6am that Sterling scored @ Everton...It was from near the half-way line though (I think)!

ESPNed

 

 

28 Oct 2012 12:12:30
According to the Mail on Sunday we are lining up some possible deals;
Didier Drogba (2-month loan @ £250k p/w)
Jason Steele (U-21 GK.....£2M from 'boro)
Demba Ba (£7m in Jan.)
Daniel Sturridge £?m
I appreciate the M.O.S. isn't the most accurate of papers re transfers but I personally think the Drogba deal could have some legs. The player will want to keep up his fitness between the end of the Chinese season and the African Cup in January whilst raking in the beloved dosh at the same time.
Jason Steele could be a good move for £2m but I hope we don't entertain either Ba or Sturridge, personally.
Ba is an injury-prone hit-and-miss type and Sturridge is too selfish and would be too expensive.
ANFIELDPETE

 

 

28 Oct 2012 11:56:19
If Saurez scores today he should celebrate by diving in front of Moyes , hopefully he will walk away from the game instead of making a poor mans AF Comments

How did you know that?!?!

 

 

28 Oct 2012 11:42:55
would winning the europa league give us a better seeding should we qualify for the champions league in the next couple of seasons?

Ah stop champions league!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont know about that, but i wouldnt want to win because of that, i want us to win because i want us to win in every competition we are in.

Kaizer

 

 

28 Oct 2012 11:35:13
love the fact that we are having so many kids competing for a start, just looking at the posts most people would disagree with who starts, but the fact is all the youngsters are pushing for a regular place. this may be out of necesity but it will benefit the club in the long term. went to the game on thursday and the atmosphere was brilliant ray3037

 

 

28 Oct 2012 11:31:50
Hi guys today is my birthday. Win in derby will be the perfect gift to end the day.
st
ynwa

Happy Birthday!

Have you had your cake yet? ;)

Make that wish!

Lee YNWA

28 Oct 2012 12:55:45
Not yet mate. Waiting for victory
st
ynwa

 

 

28 Oct 2012 11:13:37
what was Huntelaars gesture towards spurs?

No such thing

Schalke were singing pro spurs songs at the arsenal fans. Put his hand to his ear with one hand and thumped his heart with his other hand

 

 

28 Oct 2012 10:56:35
I really hope Assaidi starts. He'll punish the left wing and the link-up he had with Johnson against Anzhi was brilliant. This game is a message of intent - 3 clean sheets now, time to take the fight to our neighbours.

JFT 96

JP

 

 

28 Oct 2012 10:55:55
for me everton and newcastle game will tell us alot about where we are. atm i am very happy, cant understand all negative posts, maybe not real liverpool fans.
i know everything is not rosy, but from where we were a few years back what do people want.
sell carroll and br net spending will be zero. some of the young players look class, i believe there is money there to spend, one step at a time. i said it here a few times, arsenals way is the way forward.
live within our means, and bring young talent through. no crazy debts on our club.
next summer i would to see one top class signing ie a proved player who wants to play for us, and maybe one loan signing like sahin again. i dont think we will make top 4, but have not given Up all hope. not the end of the world if we dont gey top 4 though, if young players keep improving at the same rate good times are not far away.

B O H

 

 

28 Oct 2012 10:42:53
Please please please say the Drogba rumours are rubbish? The kid has been a diver for years, the second he pulls on a red shirt people will notice! {Ed052's Note - yes, rubbish}

Ssn reporting it must be some truth in it but eds did say we most likely wouldn't be able to afford his wages

Along side his diving is a fantastic footballer, watching him at wembley last year he was amazing. One of the best players i have seen live.

 

 

28 Oct 2012 10:27:42
My XI for Everton;

________________Reina______________
Wisdom_____Skrtel____Agger____Johnson
________________Allen_______________
____________Gerrard_Sahin___________
Sterling_________Suarez________Assaidi

Shelvey - Should play, however he loves a tackle and we all know these days everyone is one tackle away from a red.

I'd like to see suso start.

________________JONES______________
Wisdom_____Skrtel____Agger____Johnson
________________Allen_______________
____________Gerrard_Sahin___________
Sterling_________Suarez________Assaidi

Suso strats..ahead of assaidi...but interesting...enrique starts at lb..without johnson...

 

 

28 Oct 2012 10:23:12
hi eds hope all is well long time no see.been working away but booked holiday got back last night for the game today so its happy days,just wanted to say.I just cant wait to watch the are boys today,we are on the up mark my words.COME ON THE REDS LETS HAVE THE TOFFEE'S.as always walking on with hope,jay essex red for life red till dead.

 

 

28 oct 2012 09:49:53
come on liverpooool !!! i expect 0-3 to us suarez with all 3.

Gerrard to get one today. He eats Toffees for breakfast

Mighty reds

 

 

28 Oct 2012 09:44:36
New football manager demo 2013 is out now for all the gamers out there.

Pork chop

 

 

28 Oct 2012 06:32:05
team is starting to click well now and will hate for a load of 4 million players to come in and push back the youngsters to make up the squad.
id like to see 2 top forwards come in january hooper is 1 we are looking at and a bid for huntalaar is a real possibility andy carroll will it seems try to be sold to get the cash for these 2.

No chance hunterlaar if you see his spurs salute after the arsenal game the other night!

No chance hunterlaar if you see his spurs salute after the arsenal game the other night!

Hooper is by no means a top forward (yet) but i would be more than happy to sign Huntelaar. His goal scoring record is pretty good at most of the clubs he has been at. He would do for me.

The Irish Rover

What was his gesture? I didn't see it.

Cheers
Phooey...

The schalke fans were singing pro spurs songs at the arsenal fans especially the song by which the spurs fans are known by! Looking at the arsenal fans hunterlaar put his one hand to his ear and his other hand pointed to his heart and thumped it

 

 

28 Oct 2012 06:26:42
just like to say clint dempsey has not shown anything like the form that made us look at him in the summer and got to laugh at sigurdson went to what he said was a team with more ambition and chance to win things,well mr sigurdson this might be true but shame you cant get in the team bet you wish you had come here after all .

Not being funny but sig wouldnt get in our team .............andy.

So true Andy

So true Andy

Remember when we were crying out for Gaston Ramirez? We were praying we could get him for 20m as he was unbelievable on utube

S S G A O S
(Sahin, Shelvey, Gerrard and Allen over Sig)

but to him

M O E
(Money over everything)

What do these posts tell you?

We as supporters should support the team and let the manager and staff build the team!

Last post is one of the best I've ever seen on here.
kidmillions

 

 

28 Oct 2012 02:37:56
1-0, 2-0 then 2-1 then 3-1 to LFC

suarez will get 1 assist and win a pen

suso; 1 goal (solo goal)
gerrard; 1 goal (pen)
sahin; 1 goal (suarez)

Wish I had your crystal ball, even saying how the goals will be scored lol.
Hope your right, would love Suso to open his account today.

Jay

Put £10 on that and you could take the rest of the year off.

The Irish Rover

 

 

28 Oct 2012 00:48:59
Don't forget the clocks go back an hour tonight. This doesn't apply to Liverpool fans though as they're already living in the past.

Look at all those disagrees!
It's a bit of banter.

Let the kid have his minute hes had to wait a while to get that one out.

To be fair, that was pretty funny

Ha Ha! Quality

Tree Blue

Well done its almost November and the funniest thing you have said all year. Typical bitters. Same jokes every year. Hard luck today looking your cup final in October
Marker

We all live in the past tomorrow is another day.

If Liverpool fans didn't put their clocks back they would be an hour ahead of everyone and hence living in the future you person!

Haha good one

At least we have won something in the last 17 years so if anyone is looking to the past its the blues.maybe liverpool fans could get one of them yearly flags up like utd had for city since they had won f--k all but thats just bitter and you lot seem to care more about whats going on at anfield than gaining your own success.Tommy Irish Red

Still talking about the past wether its ours or yours!! Just look to the future for once! PLEASE!

Tree Blue

Never mind, they finished 7th last season, let them celebrate their achievement.

Heres a good quiz question - what year did Everton last win a trophy? sorry its a bit obscure.

Gazman

At least we have a past worth living in

Everton FC have decided to re-name the trophy room at Goodison. From now on it shall be known as 'The Room' .

Last century the last time the bitters won a trophy mate

 

 

 
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