Liverpool Banter Archive June 28 2014

 

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28 Jun 2014 23:10:44
Hi eds and reds a question for ed001 if around or any ed, if we pay Suarez 250k a week so I can not imagine money or wages being a problem to sign Sanchez. I honestly think if we do not get Sanchez for Suarez we have really done ourselves a bad deal, what do you think eds?
Hibsylfc

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{Ed002's Note - I have no interest in any weird conjecture about money.}

28 Jun 2014 23:18:44
If Sanchez goes to arsenal I can't see many other options to use in a player exchange with Barcelona, Pedro will be 27 when the season starts also if they offer Tello they'd surly have to offer a lot more cash as well, I reckon they'd prefer to a deal with us rather than arsenal, I guess a straight swap with Neymar is the only option!

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Martin Montoya for me. I'd try and get him and Sanchez with cash in any deal for him

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29 Jun 2014 00:42:35
Tello is Everton bound.

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RB isn't a priority though Jonesred

Unless you want Montoya (who is quite average) at LB.

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28 Jun 2014 23:02:55
I have MotD fever. Sign up James Rodriguez, that kid is going to be something special, what a performance!

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He is already something special and we can't afford him

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Are Monaco in breach of any fair play rules? If so there may be the slightest chance of a sale for a huge offer. Other than that I can't see Monaco selling him unless he tries to force a move. Not in the know just an opinion.

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Straight swap for Suarez anybody

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28 Jun 2014 22:55:47
Think we should save the 25m and not buy lallana could get shaqiri and konoplyanka for around that 2 good wide players and use sterling and coutinho more in the number 10 position

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Hello??

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The World is great, I just saved 700million not buying Liverpool.

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Reliable papers say we got Lallana for 23m. You won't get Shaqiri & Kono for that mate. Unless you're throwing the missing 7m in.

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28 Jun 2014 22:47:10
have Liverpool ever shown any interest in Memphis Depay from PSV?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

28 Jun 2014 22:33:34
I lived in Colombia 10 years ago and their football team were like England. Always had high expectations. Never could deliver.

However, they always seemed to do well in the under 17 and under 18 tournaments. Some of this World Cup team have come from that group of youngsters.

My oldest son was born in Colombia and supports Colombia. My youngest son is eligible to play for Colombia but would choose England (if they asked).

For the sake of my family unity Eds, any chance of a Colombian transferring to Liverpool?

p.s. I called out James Rodriguez after two group games. He looks the business.

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Unfortunately AS Monaco called out Rodriguez two years ago when they paid €40m for him ;) he was phenomenal for them last season and that price will only have risen. A shame because he is so good.

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Man Utd must be kicking themselves. Exactly what they needed and they decided not to bid.

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28 Jun 2014 21:56:48
I'm still in awe of Cuadrado, the guy is pure class.
Uruguay have done their utmost to kick him out of the game and succeeded to certain extent.
Still after that goal he won't get a mention!
Ynwa

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Only heard of him before the world cup but he glides past players would love him in a red shirt

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28 Jun 2014 21:36:01
My mates's cousin's next door neighbour works at melwood and confirmed James Rodriguez has just arrived to finalise a transfer to Liverpool.

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James Rodriguez - the guy Monaco signed for €45 million last season?

Not going to happen.

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Must be his clone or a hollogram.

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He's obviously joking he's in Brazil

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@lmred - no sh*ep sherlock, ever heard of a joke

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28 Jun 2014 22:58:10
I think the fact that the player was actually playing in Brazil at the time of the post and Melwood was shut should 've been a big clue that the OP was joking

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Imred, I think it was a joke.

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Smoke screen for sure, he will be signed up in the next 24 minutes

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Don't forget the mirrors to go with the smoke

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28 Jun 2014 21:34:45
Eds do we hold any interest in James rodguez from Colombia

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

28 Jun 2014 21:33:27
Edd001 james Rodriguez will be a.special player in a few years time.

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Pretty special now. 5 goals, 2 assists at the WC aged 22. And we thought Gazza was great for riding a couple of challenges at Italia '90.

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28 Jun 2014 21:32:02
Do you think we're more likely to move for markovic or shaqiri?

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28 Jun 2014 21:17:54
Xavi Torres, a well known and reliable journalist in Spain has said " Sanchez has 3 offers from the EPL and is willing to accept one of them. Whether its Liverpool or not its good news for Barcelona anyway ( fresh money )" .

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28 Jun 2014 21:58:31
Agree Dez, Arsenal are reported to have bid £32m for Sanchez

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28 Jun 2014 22:59:33
I don't think we made any kind of bids for Sanchez , have we eds? the whole Phil story is pure nonsense.

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28 Jun 2014 21:02:44
Evening eds so happy with our business so far lambert, can and soon to be lallana but surely we have to be thinking bout our defence any news on potential incomings for our back line still hoping we can strike a deal for moreno

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

28 Jun 2014 19:04:19
ed's do you think Liverpool stand any chance of Alexis Sanchez or do you think he will be tempted elsewhere, if Liverpool where to get him would it be straight up cash or part of a swap deal?

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer questions with "any chance" in.}

Eds do Arsenal have real interest in him at the minute?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes - how many times do I need to answer the same questions.}

Arsenal have bid £32m for Sanchez

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I'd imagine we would be in the box seat if Barca want Suarez. The other two teams in the running are Arsenal and Man Utd

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28 Jun 2014 18:20:37
Hi Eds

Any truth in the rumours linking us with Eder Alvarez Balanta?

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't think so.}

Football Manager?

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And Juve.

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28 Jun 2014 20:22:26
Any Love for Francisco Silva Chilean no.5, I think he plays in Spain, seemed to be good at breaking up play.

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28 Jun 2014 20:17:23
Gutted for Chile, they play like Atlético- high press, direct and creative. After that newspaper printed those flight times back to Chile (and I have also heard that many Brazilians were acting cocky about this game), I really hope they are knocked out next round.

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{Ed001's Note - that is the Bielsa system mate, both Atletico's Simeone and Chile's Sampaoli are Bielsa disciples. Mind, Rodgers is now, hence the change of style we underwent last season to the attacking thrust we saw. I am going to be keeping an eye on the French league next season to see how Bielsa gets on.}

28 Jun 2014 20:34:47
Bielsa is at OM now isn't he Ed001?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

A terrific coach. That Bilbao team was excellent with hardly a star name amongst them.

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Bielsa is a legend.

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Interesting, I'd never heard of that Bielsa guy before. Cheers Ed.

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Bielsa es El Loco!

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His name was mentioned for us before Rodgers got the job, he's supposed to be a bit of a nutter as well as a respected coach and tactician.

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28 Jun 2014 20:11:42
Is Fred actually a professional footballer or just some random person on the street Brazil decide to play up front? Awful!

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28 Jun 2014 20:42:02
Red Ace

You heard the name JO?

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Spain teased teams at the last WC by subliminally stating we're so good we can beat you all without a striker, so Brazil have upped the game and said we can beat you all and we've only got 10 players plus this bloke from the pub! It's a brave tactic.

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I have to say that if this Brazil team wins the world cup with Luiz, Fred, Hulk and Jo then it will be one of the greatest achievements in football since Troare, Biscan, Smicer, Baros and Kewell won a Champions league.

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I agree Calmdown. I have never been less impressed by a Brazil team. But I've backed the Brazil-Argentina final so hopefully they'll muddle through. Also on Argies to win it and Messi golden boot! Not terribly impressed by Argentina either mind!

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Why did Diego Costa switch from Brazil to Spain?
Surely he would have walked into that Brazil team?
Put Costa in that side and Brazil win the world cup for me.

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{Ed002's Note - Because he did not get any chance to play for Brazil.}

29 Jun 2014 11:49:23
Do you no think that's mad Ed002?

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{Ed001's Note - we all think it is insane, when the only person keeping him out of the team is Fred! I have never seen a worse player in the World Cup before, even in the footage of old ones, with teams like Zaire who didn't actually even know the rules of the game. I am not sure I have seen a worse player at all, thinking about, even in pub football, or Sunday league games when most of the players were still drunk from the night before! I am sure there must have been a mistake, Fred is a fairly common name over here, so I reckon some ex-pat named Fred has just turned up for a laugh and found himself leading the line for Brazil. It could be like the old Mike Bassett joke about Benson and Hedges....}

Why did Diego Costa switch from Brazil to Spain? Who won the last Euro and WC? He walked into the Spanish squad. Brazil may win it all anyway.

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{Ed001's Note - he didn't, he was never called up by Brazil but got a call up from Spain, so he played for them.}

There is still a chance for this 36yr old then ed!
I have still got it. for about 10 minutes and then I am blowing out me ass>>>

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{Ed001's Note - you can't possibly be any worse than Fred. Even if you tied your bootlaces together, you would still be more of a player than him.}

28 Jun 2014 20:10:35
Chile out
Uruguay out later

1st of July coming up. LFC and Barca get the deal done.
Sanchez plus £45m for Suarez.
Can £10m, Origi £6m and Lala £25m Lambert £4m.
Leaves us even Stevens for those fees.

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28 Jun 2014 20:00:44
Gutted for the Chileans. I've always thought medel was a good player, but ed001, I couldn't agree more with your viewpoints on him after this game. The guy is top class. Winning headers against players 6 inches taller, playing through injury. One can dream he would be in the Liverpool red next season; wish we would who interest.

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{Ed001's Note - scary thing is that he started that game off on one leg and managed to make it through all the way until the second half of extra time!}

28 Jun 2014 20:41:44
I guess his height puts people off, he manhandled the Brazilian frontline. And he would be insanely cheap; after signing can it would be kinda odd to go for him too. Oh well, I'm sure someone will be lucky enough to grab him.

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Ed001 I finally see why you love medel a true battler

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28 Jun 2014 20:00:25
Ed. I am not sure, But How is a Brazilian International GK playing his club football at QPR?
Is Cesar very poor? ( No Disrespect to QPR )

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{Ed001's Note - he isn't, he spent last season in the park training until Toronto FC took him on loan. QPR couldn't afford to pay the appearance bonus in the Championship. He is there because they pay him lots and lots and lots of money.}

28 Jun 2014 19:36:18
Watching the brazil- chile game. I have never seen a player with the strength, physique and power of hulk go down hurt so easily. He would need an anaesthetic to pick his nose. Some great play by Chile though. Not a team of household names but what a team

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He makes me dislike Brazil - he epitomises the entitled air that this Brazil team has around them, thinking they deserve to win. I hope Columbia beat them in the next round.

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Webb did a reasonable job, tried to let the game flow, he set the tone in the 1st minutes, the Brazilians weren't happy, so they set about doing a lot of diving, moaning etc. hoping to lobby against him in the later rounds, they would like to see ref's from smaller Footballing countries, more easily influenced by crowds, get star struck etc. like the fine Japanese official from the 1st game!

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28 Jun 2014 19:31:17
As promised, here's a review on Can, Lallana and Origi. I've already done one on Lambert if you can be bothered to look for it in the banter Archives.

I'll start with Origi as he's probably the least well known of all our (possible) signings. Divock Origi is a Belgian forward who currently plays for Lille in Ligue 1. He's 19 years old and already regarded as one of the brightest forwards in Europe. He is 6ft1. He favours his right foot. On the ball he is fast, strong, skillful, and has very good close control and dribbling ability. It is for that reason he played a lot of games out wide last year. Style wise he loves running in behind and ghosting in at the back post from the wide positions. He can score a range of goals from headers, poachers goals in the 6 yard box, calm one on one finishes and even the odd long range curler/drive. He just needs to work on his finishing so it is more consistent and instinctive. He often looks up to see where the goal is when he should know that instinctively. In contrast he doesn't get his head up enough when he is looking to make a cross. He needs to pick out a man better but he is young and it should come in time. His strength makes him very good at holding up the ball. His only other weakness his the timing of his runs, although he finds space in the box very well. His lack of sprinting about can sometimes make him appear lazy but he is constantly on the move looking to get on the ball. Hopefully Rodgers will drill the pressing from the front mentality into him though. He grabbed 6 goals and 2 assists in 35 games which is a good return for a 19 year old and hopefully he improves on that progressively for the next few years.

Next his Emre Can who is already confirmed. He is a 20 year old powerful midfielder who played for Bayer Leverkusen last season in an array of positions; left back, centre back, left midfield, defensive midfield and in a more box to box role (which is where I personally think he is best). He is predominantly left footed but doesn't shy away from a shot or a pass on his right side. At 6ft1 he, like Origi is a bit of a beast! He loves to run at the opposition. He is quick, strong and very skillful. His agility is surprising for someone his size jinking in and out of challenges. Obviously though he is incredibly versatile and his stamina makes it easy for him to get up and down the pitch but he can also play a more disciplined role thanks to his solid tackling ability and calmness in possession which allows him to dictate the pace of the game. He has good passing and vision, but his final ball can be a little inconsistent. He also needs to work on his finishing as his shooting can sometimes be wayward and wasteful. He also needs to learn when to hold and when to press the ball as his steely nature sometimes allows the opposition to pass it round him too easily. It's something a young player learns though. He could also work on his marking at set pieces as a player of his height could be a good asset defensively. He managed 4 goals and 5 assists in 39 games last season.

Then it's Adam Lallana. I personally love this guy. At 5ft8 he is quite small but that doesn't stop him getting stuck into the game. He is an attacking midfielder for Southampton. At 26 years old he is just coming into his prime and will make a big impact next season for us. He incredibly is 100% two footed. He prefers his right but is excellent on either foot. In my opinion, he is the most technically gifted English player since John Barnes. He isn't quite as quick though sadly. Don't be fooled though as his acceleration from a standing start makes it appear effortless as he glides past defenders. His skill and control is just incredible though. The Southampton manager actually likened him to Iniesta and whilst he hasn't proven himself at the top of the game yet, surrounded by better players he easily could do. It sometimes looks impossible to get the ball off him. His ability to thread a pass or curl in a cross is excellent, not many can match his vision. He created 71 chances last season, more than any midfielder currently at Liverpool. He plays a very high number of key passes. He is also a more than capable finisher when he gets into a shooting position. He's not all about attacking flair though. His willingness to press from the front and get stuck into a tackle makes him a very complete midfielder. He makes a lot of crucial interceptions. Like all players though he has weaknesses. He isn't lightning fast despite his impressive turn of pace and he isn't the strongest either. Maybe Rodgers could do to Lallana what he did with Sterling! As previously mentioned as well, he's not really proven at the top. Hopefully he can show he wasn't just a big fish in a small pond. Also despite his willingness to make a tackle, he isn't the sort of player who regularly wins 50/50 duels. He could do with being a little bit stronger in the challenge. His only major weakness though is aerial ability. He just doesn't win headers. Hopefully Liverpool will keep the ball on the deck though. With 10 goals and 8 assists in 42 games last season, you can see why he quite rightly made it into the team of the season. I know his signing is getting mixed reviews but this guy is one of my favourite players and I'm very pleased we've bagged him.

Hope you enjoyed the read and I apologise for any typos. I had to write this on my phone as I'm babysitting my cousins!

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Cheers EMS. Good read. Just to throw you a curve ball (and forgetting he who shall not be mentioned) what's your thoughts on Sanchez

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Good write up EMS. Thanks for taking the time to share.

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Thanks for that EMS. Good work. Finished your dissertation then?!

Question - if Can plays in your preferred position, whose place does he take in the starting 11? Lucas? Hendo? Gerrard?

In your/eds opinion, whose place would Medel take (if ed001 gets his wish) - Can's perhaps?

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Thanks for taking the time and on the iPhone whilst babysitting. you must have the patience of a saint.

Great read, I'm thoroughly looking forward to this season and with the likes of Ilori, Alberto, Texeira, Ibe, Rossiter, Smith etc. plus the other 19-22 years old already in and around the 1st team, the future looks very bright

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I love Sanchez. He is one of the few truly world class players in the modern game.

Yeah dissertation is complete :) 10, 567 words in total! Cheers for asking mate. I think Can is made for the left side of a Diamond. I think he'll compete with Lallana, Henderson, Allen, Lucas and Gerrard for any one of the 3 deeper positions though with Coutinho Sterling and Teixeira competing for the tip in behind the strikers.

I know Suffolk you are telling me. "Adam come play FIFA", "Adam come play monopoly", "Adam read me the hungry caterpillar". They're in bed now haha. Bliss.

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Oh and if Medel signs I would think Lucas will be sold. Unless Medel is signed to play in the back 4 like he does so well for Chile.

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28 Jun 2014 19:17:55
While I agree with the Suarez ban I would just like some people's opinions I was due to go over to America on a scholarship and while playing for my team in Liverpool I was on the receiving end of a naughty tackle which broke my leg and then on my return from that someone broke it for a second time all this was over the last few years and I'm in for a knee op which was caused by the leg injuries, so because of that I have been out for over 2 years .
To my point I think repeat offenders of bad tackles should be banned for longer! I know football is a contact sport which is why I said "repeat offenders" but I think something should be done.
I wish someone bit me instead of breaking my leg haha!
Anyway any other opinions?
SB96

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Agree totally

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That's Gerrard Banned then! The number of times he tackles over the ball!

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Good point. In many cases the player on the receiving end is taken off and injured for a substantial period whilst the culprit gets a max ban of 3 games.

What I think will be difficult though is proving intent as without this it would get very messy trying to prove severe action is warranted

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Yes Suffolk red I agree 100% I think maybe one or two tackles maybe give them say a 3-5 game ban after that a little bit more and then if it happened again maybe ban them for the same time as the injured playDr is out for, which may deter the nastiness.
I think 99% of the time you can tell by the players face/expression if there's any intent.
SB96

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28 Jun 2014 19:17:32
Sanchez really is fantastic. Really, really hope he's involved in any deal with Barca, it'd be a stroke of genius.

JFT 96

JP

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28 Jun 2014 20:52:21
Absolutely JP I don't think there is anyone better to be our new number 7, and he is perfect for the style of football we are now playing. I'm trying not to get my hopes up in case it doesn't happen, but I will jump around the room shouting Yeehah! if he signs for us.

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28 Jun 2014 18:56:14
Ed01. One for you.
Sanchez. what a player. man. he is truly world class. he would be the signing of the season.

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{Ed001's Note - he is sensational. So good to watch. While the BBC fawn over Neymar, Sanchez has completely outshone him.}

28 Jun 2014 19:19:19
Omg what Player a he is gents! He truly is world class. I'm not being negative but I just can not see us getting him, all the rumours seem to be with other players.

I live in hope that we go all out for him and insist he is included in any deal involving LS.

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Sanchez will be top 5 in the world just like Suarez is now if by some miracle he signs for LFC under BR. Just look at what he`s done with Couts, Hendo, Studge, Sterling and even. Suarez. Sanchez is poetry in motion and deserves a team and coach that believes in him 100%.

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28 Jun 2014 18:50:22
{Ed001's Note - I hate to agree with Harry

OMG Ed001 i'm so sorry you had to put yourself through that. Please don't suffer alone though we are all hear for you.

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{Ed001's Note - I feel a little sick to be honest.}

28 Jun 2014 18:42:23
I am starting to think we will be better off without Suarez if we can get Sanchez as hs replacement and improve the defence, surely we can do without the liability that is Suarez.

Our team may even become more creative, and if the defense is improved two fold I would expect Liverpool to have a better season.

Does that sound cosher, because I know I just said we will be better off without the best player in our team and possibly the best striker in the world?

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Kosher {spellcheck}

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28 Jun 2014 18:36:29
Has anyone on here seen Markovic play? Haven't seen anything of the lad bar videos (which are always going to look good), but his ball control and dribbling abilities look absolutely awesome. Maybe Rodgers sees an opportunity to do what he's done for Sterling, Coutinho etc and push them to improve their finishing abilities and contribute more overall for the team.

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JP

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28 Jun 2014 18:21:02
Seems Vida is on his way to UTD, Howard Webb has just ruled out an offside goal keeping chili in the game. "

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28 Jun 2014 18:21:01
Personally I am really looking forward to watching can play, as I've never seen him before! I've heard mixed reviews, seems technically good but can be a bit fiesty, hopefully a bit of bite to his play but not too much rash tackling

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28 Jun 2014 18:12:49
Vidal is not one the best midfielders in the world lads come on any time I watch him he is average

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28 Jun 2014 18:25:50
Sorry Dezy, He doesn't play as a striker at Juventus As he is playing for Chili.
He is arguably the best BB midfielder in recent times

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{Ed001's Note - I hate to agree with Harry, but Vidal is truly world class, absolutely sensational. So good Juve are prepared to sell Pogba just so they can afford to keep him!}

28 Jun 2014 18:28:49
dezyboy not to be rude but what makes you think you no what a world class player looks like.

Im guessing your judging him on his goal or assist rate, What about positioning, Movement, defending, stamina, leadership, Ball retention, technique, working in tight spaces and so on, there's more to players than goals assist or pass completion rate you no.

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Sanchez is running the game

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28 Jun 2014 18:35:52
Wow just wow, how many times have u watched him? Because everytime I watch him he's been awsome, I guess some people might come to the same conclusion with Ronaldo if they watched a Portuguese game maybe?

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Vidal is world class, your argument is invalid

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Awh I watched Juventus in the champions league he was diving and always fouling in stupid areas and just never impresses me what does he do that I am missing lads enlighten me as everytime I watch him he fails to impress (although he is only back from a knee injury so doesn't help)

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Armchair fan where did I say anything about goals buddy ya putting words in my mouth!!!

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28 Jun 2014 20:03:22
No dezyboy you are right you never said anything about goals although I never said you did, I said you are probably judging him on that, my point is how can you be so sure you no what a world class player is, are you a scout or coach or manager. You had a negative view on a player i'm asking why you have that view and do you honestly believe you read a players role that well mate.

P.S not sure how this comes across to you or my previous message, but its intended with no disrespect just wanting your views mate.

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Stupid comment! Vidal is currently not one of the best midfielders in the world because he`s playing INJURED. Vidal (and Sanchez) have always been world class since their U-20 days in 2007.

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Sorry armchair misread your text as been smart
But I'm no scout just fail to see what everyone else does he is good but I mever seen him boss a game mind you I only base it on champions league

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28 Jun 2014 17:28:12
I've just read that we've enquired about the availability of Falcao. Any truth in this Ed's? Could this spell the end of Luis?

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{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}

28 Jun 2014 17:52:31
28 year old with a massive massive wages, a horrible leg injury.

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30 yr old Harry, he lied about his age

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28 Jun 2014 17:27:07
Did Sideshow Bob score or was that an own Goal by Jara?

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28 Jun 2014 17:52:56
I think Luiz just wanted to claim the glory for himself, I detest him with his sly elbow digs and little stamps. Happy he's left the prem now and we don't have to watch it week in week out.

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28 Jun 2014 17:19:47
I am gone for two days and we sign two players.
Wonder what will happen when I am gone for the first three weeks of July.?

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28 Jun 2014 17:29:03
I am sending you for a month. hahah lols.

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2 players??? Lallana almost done and? Have I missed something?

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{Ed030's Note - Can and Lambert. }

28 Jun 2014 18:07:28
I think he might be talking about Origi?

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28 Jun 2014 17:04:33
Hey all,

First things first, I'd like to say thank you to the eds for all they're input on this site, it's the best Liverpool rumours site available by a country mile

Secondly

I've seen a lot of people posting saying they want saurez gone, that's fine, everyone is entitled to voice they're opinion, what I don't understand is people saying that if Saurez stays they won't support him or celebrate his goals, to me, that's a bit over the top

Im not condoning what saurez has done, past or present but in my opinion the fans should support EVERY single player that pulls on the red shirt of Liverpool cause that in my opinion is what a REAL Liverpool supporter does, u follow our team and it's players through thick and thin, good and bad, no matter what

Just my opinion

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28 Jun 2014 18:43:33
On point 2,
Your support should be of the team not individuals mate, players are no more than employees of your club, they should represent your club on and off the pitch. Meerly supporting a player that is detrimental to your club shows an incredible lack of respect to those that have represented Liverpool positively.
Saurez will continue to show no respect to ure club and seemingly he seems to get rewarded for this behaviour.

The mind boggles sometimes :-)

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28 Jun 2014 16:51:41
I have something I would like to point out for everyone that's been bugging me a bit

When Suarez bit Bakkal he accepted the ban and that was that

When he bit Ivanovic he admitted to it and tried to apologise in the Chelsea dressing room and accepted the ban

This time he seems adamant that he didn't do it, why has he all of a sudden lost what honesty he has?

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He might be influenced by the Uruguayan FA? I don't know. But if he did it with Liverpool I really doubt he'd be saying that. But that's just me

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28 Jun 2014 17:26:44
If He accepts, He would hit with ban and no sympathy all over, Also no blame on FIFA and No appeal.
I ave lost my complete respect for him after reading his explanations. He must be admitted to a hospital.

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28 Jun 2014 21:52:50
He didn't come out as openly and remorseful as your trying to make out he did. He tried to excuse himself while apologising!!

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28 Jun 2014 16:37:37
Just to play devils advocate Eds/Reds. If we knew for sure that selling suarez and getting in all the linked players meant we ended up doing a spurs and keeping him resulted in us winning the league would you all still want him go or would the lure of title help us all forgive him?

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28 Jun 2014 16:35:46
Thank God, July 1st is just around the corner, so that I can rightfully begin complaining about the lack of transfer activity (LOL) . Very happy with the Lambert, Can and Lallana transfers. I'm not sure Shaqiri/Markovic is absolutely needed. If we believe that it is the "system", devised by Rodgers, that is responsible behind last season's improvement and success, then a front group of Sturridge, Lallana, Sterling, Borini and Lambert should do well. Lallana, Sterling & Borini could hopefullyy make up for any departure from SAS (LOL). But a Shaqiri/Markovic arrival would be a definite plus. Now I hope Rodgers & team put in the same effort on getting an equally good CB and LW; these are a bare minimum before we can say we are done for the summer. I'm willing to bet that we will still have a good chance to win the league with 10-15 goals less than we scored this year, if we can allow 10-15 goals less than what we allowed in. Put simplistically, since the last 5 years, the EPL winner has let in between 29 to 43 goals and scored between 78 and 103 goals, for the season. A stronger defense will also boost our chances against the heavyweights in the Champions League.

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28 Jun 2014 11:37:17
Ed002

Regarding Alberto Moreno, are Sevilla actually trying to start a bidding war to get the most out of the deal hence their president saying that the LFC deal is off?

I believe LFC still want the player. If I am not mistaken you said Sevilla accepted LFC's last offer but were not happy with the payment terms. Also with terms for the player agreed between LFC and Moreno's agent, does that not suggest that Moreno has made his mind up that he wants to join LFC or are Spurs also in talks with Moreno's agent and do you know if anything has been agreed between them?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool were unable to complete the transfer and Sevilla want to move on. As has been previously explained Spurs have shown an interest.}

28 Jun 2014 17:53:39
If it was just the case of money, then Suarez sale would bring Moreno at Anfield.

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28 Jun 2014 16:01:42
Hi ED I'm from England but living in American now just saw in the foxnews the owner John_W._Henry said luis suarez will not be sold less than he's value which is around 80mil plus . So with that said is Barc comes with players and money to exchange. The question I have for you ED is if the players that Barc offer doesn't want to play for Liverpool and it comes down to money can you see Barc paying the full 80mil or Suarez.

Thanks for all the hard word you do sir well done .

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{Ed001's Note - I think Barca will do everything they can to avoid paying that much. I honestly couldn't see who they can sell to raise enough cash to get a deal together. But, something I hadn't considered before was mentioned to me by someone who works in the financial area with another Prem club. Basically they were saying as Barca won't be able to spend money for a while, they can aim for an agreement to pay a smaller amount up front and pay big lumps at the time when they won't need the money to bring in more players. So I think they might well do so, if we will agree to the right payment terms. That will be the bit that will take organising, which was the bit that caused all the hold up with Bale to Madrid.}

28 Jun 2014 16:38:41
Betting Question:

If I pace a bet on Brazil(-1) to win against Colombia, how does a penalty shootout affect the
outcome of the bet?

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{Ed001's Note - not a clue sorry mate.}

Bets are always over 90 mins unless specified.

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28 Jun 2014 16:00:32
Eds, what is the typical process when a club like LFC want to move some players on? Do they let agents know or is there an agent grapevine they use or do they just tell the player directly?

I imagine it will depends on whether the player wants to go or not but was just interested.

Cheers

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{Ed001's Note - it depends on if there is already clubs that are known to be interested or not. If not, the usual is to have a representative pass on the info that so and so player might be available. The word soon gets round without clubs having to directly shop a player.}

Cool, cheers Ed.

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28 Jun 2014 15:50:22
did anybody read the king kenny column in the I think mirror I read it through newsnow but its quite good and he makes plenty of valid points about saurez

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28 Jun 2014 16:25:35
Do u mean excuses?

Just goes to show u what a top bloke KD is that even thou that toad was partly to blame for him losing his job he still speaks out for him, that and trying to make sure Liverpool get right price for him.

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And isn't it strange that he and Hansen are both basically holding a line that keeps LS value up. We don't want to sell him - really. Unless you pay us 80m (70m).

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Tbh ctr I was suprised as kk got the sack due to him but it just shows what a decent guy kenny if it had been me got the sack for him i'd have ripped him a new a hole but kenny still puts the clubs best interests first just shows his love of lfc

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28 Jun 2014 15:13:17
"After the impact . I lost my balance, making my body unstable and falling on top of my opponent. At that moment I hit my face against the player leaving a small bruise on my cheek and a strong pain in my teeth."

Ed01, You are right, I am still laughing on the floor. He hasn't learned a single thing.
This guy is making a mess of himself. No wonder Y the ban was 4 months. The Panel would have been on the floor laughing.

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{Ed001's Note - shame because he is a genius, but you can't begin to learn if you won't admit you are wrong!}

Ed1, don't suppose you fancy telling my wife that?

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{Ed001's Note - first thing you need to learn is that your wife is never wrong, even when you think she may be wrong, you are mistaken. As will be proven later, when you think you remember her being wrong about something, you will find it is your memory that was wrong, as she will tell you repeatedly. Where you have a crystal clear memory of her saying one thing, she will tell you over and over that it was you that said that and all along she had actually said what you think you remember you saying. Better to just accept it now, your wife will never be wrong, even when she is wrong, she is right. You will only ever be right when you agree with her, though even then you will be in the wrong.
To sum up, it is you that are wrong, because even when you are right, you are wrong, so you may as well admit it and you will all be the happier for it. Though you will still be wrong.}

I think they were planning to ban him for 6 months and dropped it to 4 due to him sending them in to histerics

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If that is truly what he said, then it is just plain ridiculous. It's there for everyone to see, he's not lost his balance etc. dear oh dear, he needs people around him that can really help him, that's not the Uruguayan FA and his advisors. They are the ones advising him on what to say. Yes, he is old enough to make his own decisions on what statement should be given to the Apprpriate authority etc, but, at a time like this, following what has happened, the advice to give such a statement is beyond crazy.

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I just fell out of my chair. oddly I didn't use my teeth to break the fall.

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Well, I thought that he was falling when he jumped towards the Italian. Sounds plausible, I can believe that. I thought that he was trying to butt him but his teeth were too big.

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Ed, I knew I was doing something wrong I just had no idea of the scale of my wrongness. I passed your comments onto my Mrs and she wants to know if you're from Tibet as how else could you be so wise? ;-)

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Great piece on Espn a while ago trying to get to the root of LS problems and the alleged head butting of a ref. after days in Montevideo talking to those who knew the young Luis the journo tracks down a coach in his club. He gets onto the phone to talk to a guy who would have been at the match in question. After a long chat he gets off the blower and tells the journo there was an incident. But it wasn't a head but. Suarez fell into the ref and his head made contact with the refs. I read this a couple of hours before LS released his version of the latest events. Sort of sums him up doesn't it?

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An old fella told me once. The best 2 words you can learn when you are married are "yes dear".
It is now my 8th year of matrimony and I can say that those two words have meant a much improved sex life:)

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28 Jun 2014 15:16:56
I think it'd be kind of funny if Standard Chartered take the morale high ground with the Suarez situation; a brand synonymous with controversy. Not justifying what Suarez did at all but their brand is damaged beyond repair anyway.

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28 Jun 2014 15:02:05
Barcelona are understood to need an apology from Suarez in press conference before any kinda Transfer.
I don't see this happening untill Uruguay FA is in the picture.

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Harry I just read on sly he's still denying it for an apology wouldn't he first have to admit It I think your right it won't happen there was a poll in 1 of the catalan papers 61% of barca fans don't want him

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28 Jun 2014 15:17:46
What?

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Well if he wants his move to go thru he'd better apologise in fact he should do anyone firstly to the player then to Liverpool fans and the club for the hassle he's caused.

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28 Jun 2014 14:53:07
I have just read a post in which ed001 replied by saying that all the crap posts get sent to the other banter page.
I've just been on it and it's literally swimming in jonybarnes89-90 posts and replies.
Why the hate fella's. why the hate:)

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{Ed001's Note - hahaha told you I would hold you responsible if we haven't signed Sanchez!}

Ha ha. It will happen ed001.
Pray to god it happens.

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28 Jun 2014 14:56:32
I think Lallanaia is a good signing (not great) but will help the team as I feel we could of got much better & cheaper, then again no guarantees that a player will fit in. Would of been nice to of seen us do a "double" & get Shaw in there too as that would of been our left back sorted for a few years to come, maybe done a triple & got Lovren too. Maybe asking too much there.
Dissapointed to not see Lambert get a run out I the last game of the W/C as Hodgson made changes Lambert would od added some thing different up front.
Hope we can land Sanchez & a good central defender to solidify the back. On the L/S position. if he is banned from any football activities for 4 months by FIFA, I don't think he should be getting any wages for that time period either, I know it opens up a whole can of worm's legally or FIFA should pay his salary not the club.

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28 Jun 2014 14:38:45
What was your moment of last season eds and reds?
Mine was how I felt when the third goal against Palace went in.
I just felt at that point that we were going to wipe out the goal difference in 1 game.
I know it did not pan out that way but I will always be grateful for LFC giving me that belief. I am sure at the time the players felt as though they were unstoppable!
How many of us thought>>> "we are on for 10 goals here"
Like I said it never turned out that way but for me that was my favourite moment of the season because I saw a team refusing to accept the situation and doing everything it could to change it. Brilliant.

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28 Jun 2014 14:16:28
Ed01, I know I have been cribbing you way too much, I am sorry, You know me very well, because my post projects my emotions and the person I am.
Give a high five and a smile.
I don't think I have tested patience of a person apart from you, Not even my parents or teachers.
Thank GOD, without you, I would have been banned log back.
But more to come from me. hlols

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{Ed001's Note - is that a threat or a promise????}

28 Jun 2014 15:09:28
h lols. Promise that I would continue to crib you. lols

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Ed001 while your in dubai can you get some very very rich sheikhs into lfc maybe fund a few player transfers nit greedy just Rodriguez and el sharaway

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{Ed001's Note - I wish I could mate!}

28 Jun 2014 10:23:40
Hi eds couple of questions today, seems these markovic rumours are gathering pace do u not gel shaqiri would be a much better buy at possibly 10 million cheaper by also believe he's much accomplished player, secondly is it true Ajax will receive a percentage of any Suarez deal. Thanks

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{Ed030's Note - I don't know about Ajax sorry. Imo Markovic would be a better option than Shaqiri. }

28 Jun 2014 14:19:45
But Ed we need a LW?

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{Ed030's Note - Sterling can play on the left, Lallana can also. }

Borini and Ibe can also play on the left

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28 Jun 2014 14:00:01
Hi Eds,

Bit confused about the separate Liverpool Banter site that has been created. What will get posted where if you know what I mean?

Cheers

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{Ed001's Note - the plan is for all the RFTP posts to go there, and also posts that are just repeating what someone else has said etc. Subjects we have moved on from and don't want to revive or just don't feel we should get involved in discussing on here. That kind of thing.}

That will bring it down to a post a day on here then ;-) good idea!

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Reet and I have lower standards.

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28 Jun 2014 13:53:58
Eds could you see a situation where we demand that Sanchez comes to Anfield if Barcekona want Suarez, or would we be as happy with the cash equivalent?
I think Barca's interest in Suarez leaves us as in control of Sanchez's fate as they are themselves, and surely if we really want him we are capable of ensuring we get him by threatening Barcelona?

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{Ed001's Note - I don't think we would ever do that. What happens if Sanchez wants too much in wages or doesn't want to join at all?}

28 Jun 2014 13:47:44
Alright eds long time no talk,
Anyway been glued to the site live the views just have a few questions for you.
Do you think jordan ibe will get a run out next year or do you see him being loaned out.
Are we close on any defenders quite worrying not seeing much on that front.
What is jose enrique's fitness latest he seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.
And finally do you see us bringing in a back up keeper in the summer would be nice to have some real back up.

Cheers
D690

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{Ed001's Note - right now no final decision has been made, but I think he will defo go out on loan.
We are still chasing left backs and a centre half. I would think that Can's utility plus Flanno's ability to cover the left has reduced the pressure to buy. I still expect us to complete a deal for Moreno personally.
Enrique is being shopped around, I am not sure what is happening to him fitness wise though sorry.
We are looking for a keeper, but we might still have Pepe yet mate.}

28 Jun 2014 13:18:45
Hi Eds

Ive been looking at Markovic stats. It sais he is a winger mainly but he has no assists and just 5 goals. Wete is his prefered or best position please? Is it a case of he has been used mainly as a sub and in a variety of diff places?

Sorry but would you prefer him over Shaqiri and who is more probable please?

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{Ed018's Note - I watched him play in some Europa League matches and there is a ton of potential there. I noticed he played on both wings and behind the center forward in one match as well. He is very quick with the ball at his feet and has good pace. He seemed to be very direct to me. When he got the ball in the attacking third he wanted to make something happen and looks dangerous in those positions. I'm rather suprised to see he has no assists. He is still young and will have to polish his game up to have more end product but I will say, since I'm a Chelsea supporter, I'd be pretty upset to see him end up at Liverpool when Chelsea have been linked to him in the past. He has every chance of becoming a very good player}

Not a huge fan of his finishing but apart from that looks like a decent player.

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I agree he has potential ed but overall I have to disagree with you. not on the fact he could become a good player he may well. but as a Liverpool fan I couldn't care less if he went to Chelsea certainly at the price quoted. for me he is very inconsistent (yes he is young) but I just don't see enough quality in his good games to warrant a big move. he is quick yes but his decision making and how he uses that is quite poor most times (again he is young) but I think his game needs a lot more than just polishing to secure a starting place at his club now or at any club he may move to. I think at this time he is far too much of a gamble.

I would like to ad I know nothing about him as a person or his attitude to learning and training which will make a big difference in how he progresses obviously

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Ed18, is the Third Party that owns Markovic owned by or affiliated with Chelsea? Do you see it being a blocker to a move? Cheers

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{Ed018's Note - Ed002 has said Chelsea have financial interest in Markovic as a third party but do not own him. I don't think they can block a move but if Chelsea wants Markovic they are gonna have to move for him or he could end up moving to Liverpool}

28 Jun 2014 16:55:52
Thanks Ed for your replys. Do you no at this stage have Chelsea showed any signs of chasing him or not?

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{Ed018's Note - they did not want to make a move for him this summer as they felt he wasn't quite ready yet, but could be forced to do so}

28 Jun 2014 13:30:41
When I was 8 years old my parents broke up. I moved away with my dad and his new girlfriend along with my 5 brothers and sisters. I hardly saw my mum after that. We moved house and changed schools more times than I can remember. We never had much money and my dad was always fighting and getting in trouble, but for me growing up that was the norm.

Every school I moved to I would get bullied (as the new boy does), but I would soon find myself in trouble for fighting as I would never back down. I got expelled, excluded, detentions etc. and if I moved to school where I settled in well and made friends, I knew it wouldn't be long before we were moving house and school again.

Even though I hardly saw my mum, I always knew that someday I would find her and we would build a great relationship. That is what I held on to as a kid, until one day my dad received a phone call to find out that she had cancer and had only weeks to live. We went to see her for the last time and that is a day I will never forget. By this time I was 18 years old.

Within weeks of my mum dying, my dad and step mum broke up and I kind of went off the rails, fighting and getting in trouble with the police, getting arrested, going to court, being tagged, doing community service and at one point spent 3 weeks in prison. I had so much built up inside of me but had nobody to confide in. I felt alone and every time I got in trouble, I would think "why did I do it?". It seemed at the time I had no control over my actions, but as soon as I had done it it was too late. What's done is done.

I then met my partner and we settled down. For the first couple of years of our relationship I found myself becoming more mature and responsible. Admittedly, I did slip up on a couple of occasions, but I was still adjusting from my "old life" to my "new life" as I call it. I'm now 25 years old, I have a perfect family of my own and I look back and think how alone I was and how I had to learn things the hard way,

Had my partner not stuck by me and helped me become who I am today, I don't know where I'd be now. I guess all I needed was someone to be there for me.

This is just part of my story, but what I am trying to point out is that even though someone may look like a thug from the outside, maybe they have just had a hard life and don't mean to act in the way they act. Maybe they just need a bit of help and support.

Red Rum

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{Ed001's Note - but Suarez has that help and support. He has a very happy married life with lovely kids. He is also older and should be wiser. So, taking your example, by now he should be doing these things less, if at all.}

He's also on a shed load of money, is in the public eye and is supposedly a role model to young footballers.
For all that he should be able to control his animal instincts

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28 Jun 2014 13:48:09
Ed01, You are such humble and nice Man.
But I felt so sad, When people here labelled him as a CANNIBAL AND ANIMAL?
Ed01, That's cruel. He was raised from streets, But that's not his problem, Of-course He needs treatment.
Its not his active mind that is making mistake, If So he would have done many other offence. Y is he only attempting a Bite?
I feel for his wife and 2 small kids, They would be treated with the worst way possible outside.
Not everyone are born with an I phone on the right hand and credit card on left hand.
You could only take some months out from his life. Not his skill, desire, will, and passion from the game.
He is a Genius with a football at his feet.
I wish him good luck and pray he bench Messi at Barca.
I would show my kid Suarez and say, Play like him don't be like him.

And the one whose spouting on this Morale and Image, I saw none 4 years back, when we were in the mud financially.

5 years back City was nothing, Now they are among top 5 richest club in the world.
The goodwill, the moral comes when you are successful.

I don't wanna take your time. So sweet of you.

happy weekend.

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{Ed001's Note - you are spouting nonsense about morals and image Harry, that is highly offensive regarding Citeh and completely false and ignorant. Suarez has acted like a cannibal, whatever the reason, it doesn't change the fact that he was in the wrong. End of. Everybody needs some kind of discipline in their life, whether self or not, to keep them on the right path. Clearly he lacks that self-discipline at times, so he needs to be guided. There is a reason why we talk of carrot and stick methods, not just carrot and carrot methods. I have seen what happens to kids who don't get disciplined and then seen how my daughter is polite and helpful according to everyone who knows her, and she does get disciplined. Suarez is not being abandoned or insulted, he is being disciplined for doing something disgusting. That is how it should be. The problem is that he is not learning his lesson, he is just doing the same things over and over. So, obviously, the punishment is not working as he is getting rewarded for his idiocy every time. First bite, get a move to Liverpool with a big pay rise and signing bonus. Result! Second bite, get a massive bumper new contract from Liverpool to keep you happy. Result! That is the problem, a problem which you are compounding by defending him.}

28 Jun 2014 13:50:57
Red Rum

I have immense respect for you after reading through the post.
Not all are born with an I-phone on right hand and credit card in the left side.
You are perfectly fine, Be proud

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28 Jun 2014 14:11:01
Ed01. No. You got me wrong, I have no problem in selling him. Absolutely nothing.
But calling him with such words, I can't take it. Not with him anyone.
Let him go smoothly. y are we just throwing him out.

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{Ed001's Note - I have held a copy of your original post mate, I am not sure about whether it is acceptable to say this for various reasons. I know you don't mean any disrespect or anything, but it could cause issues, so I have held it so it can be checked out first. No offence mate, but people can be extremely sensitive!}

But do you have 44,000 singing your name every other weekend?

Do you have millions of fans around the world who follow and support you through media?

Are you paid more in one month than some people are paid in a lifetime?

Do you have an entire organization supporting and defending you constantlY?

Do you have an entire country that thinks of you as their hero?

And did you let all these people down?

His situation is so different from yours.

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Are you joking home fan?
Seriously, the guy should be called what ever names people like. tough luck if he doesn't like it! Why do you care? Do you think he plays great football for his love of Liverpool?
I don't and never did. I think he plays great football because he is incredibly competitive and cannot stand losing. rather like a child.
This is why he always looks like losing it in games when we are against other big teams and he is not getting the chances to score that he would like, or the team is letting him down.

I cannot understand anyone supporting the person! Plain and simple he is a fool and like Eds sort of suggested if you keep rewarding people to sweeten them, even if they have let you down, they will bully you and become more spoilt!
Great player and love watching him play, but get rid get rid get rid, and stop please everyone from defending him.

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Ok ed001 thanks for the reply

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Thanks for the replies guys.

Just in addition to my original post, everyones situation in life is different and some take longer than others to find the correct path to go down. I suppose it depends how things effect you mentally. I don't know Suarez' background, but I can only assume that he has some issues he is yet to overcome. He has done wrong and deserves to be punished (as did I), but I get the impression that deep down he is a decent guy.

Red Rum

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28 Jun 2014 13:24:45
Emre Can's, to the tune of Candyman (Sammy Davies Jr.)

Who can take a sunrise
Sprinkle it with dew
Cover it in chocolate and a miracle or two
The Candy Man

Emre can can,
The candyman can
Emre can, Emre can

just a suggestion

YNWA

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Don't quit the day job ;)

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It beats talking about Suarez for a bit. While we are being silly, I'd go for the A Tribe called Quest tune:
Can he kick it? Emre Can!

I apologise.

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Isn't it pronounced 'Charn'?

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28 Jun 2014 13:18:56
Judging by the number of players we are looking to sign it seems inevitable others will leave. Reina, Enrique, Agger, Aspas, Borini, Suso are all likely departures and I can see a combined total income from their sales of £30-35m. That has covered the purchase of Lallana and Can. I am expecting Markovic or similar player and Sanchez to sign this window. We are also chasing Lovren and a left back. With a potential outlay of about £70m for these players my money is on Suarez to be sold. If he isn't sold I can't see us having the money to move for Sanchez.

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28 Jun 2014 13:10:06
Where do you think Suarez will be playing his football next season?
Where do you want Suarez to be playing his football next season?

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Barca
The Reserves

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Barcelona
Anywhere apart from Liverpool(abroad only).

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Barcelona
Liverpool

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Barcelona

At this stage couldn't give a rubbish

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Liverpool
Real Madrid

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Spain

Syria

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Not Liverpool.

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28 Jun 2014 13:08:20
I'm just going to ask the question of what will our front 3/4 be on the assumption (big one I know) that Suarez is gone and Sanchez comes in.

Lallana playing in behind Sturridge with Sanchez and sterling on the flanks.

Henderson and Gerrard deeper then.

And the final note will this be a stronger front four than what we had last season. forget about the depth and bench for the moment.

SaSaS + coutinho
Or
Sturridge Sanchez sterling lallana.

I personally think that the new four should have more consistency over coutinho and sterling will be helped with him now not being only player going out wide. my only concern is with centre backs now focussing on sturridge wether he will get enough goals. although I guess it's down to the others to create space for him and him for them.

Ed001 if you're about and have the time would be interested to hear what you think.

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{Ed001's Note - I love Sanchez as a player, I can see him giving defenders absolute nightmares with his ability to go outside or inside them. It means the centre backs have to constantly guard against getting caught with him running at them at pace. Suarez also had that ability, but it was more of a wriggling past them with close control, he never had that lightning pace. So I think he will just change the way we build up and move the ball. One thing is for sure, I doubt there will be a single defence that would play a high line against that attack. So that should give more space for a Lallana/Coutinho to create for the team. If we have a faster backline too, allowing them to push up higher, we can keep most of the play in the opposition half, reducing our goals against as the opposition will be too stretched to attack in strength.}

28 Jun 2014 13:39:15
Ed01 you are spot on. If there is someone who could make the fans quiet when Suarez leaves, Its Sanchez.
Magnificent player, I would also add Shaquiri on the left side and Lallana in the middle behind sturridge.
Sterling and countinho to come in after 60 mts.

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Yeah I agree that it will change our style alright. I'm still slightly concerned about our high line defensively as I think sakho is the only player truly fitted to this along with Johnson if he's bothered. I think Moreno would fit the bill perfectly and lovren I love (pardon the pun) but think his slight lack of pace (not a slouch mind you) could put some pressure on sakho playing against quick players with balls over the top as I'm not too convinced with mignolet as a sweeper keeper either. but I think it was you that' said ed001 that with what we did last season and with that front four this season' that teams will be more cautious and won't have as much of a go from the start which was a good point and I also feel will play into our hands as well.

But sure if we keep the ball in the opposition half for 75% of the match with those attacking players I think we'll win a lot more than we'll lose so I for one am optimistic .

Cheers for the response also good insight as ever

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28 Jun 2014 14:20:58
Get Montoya and Sanchez for Suarez and Release Johnson to Antartica.

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Home_Fan

I honestly can't imagine Sterling being used as an impact sub. I'd imagine he's one of the first names on the team sheet at the moment.

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{Ed030's Note - Me too. }

Sanchez is a must in any deal with barca imo, a brillant deal if we can pull it off . 3 0r 4 players for the price of one lallana sanchez and one other top player is great buisness for luis, wish him all the best and move on . a bit of horse trading to be done in defence and we are looking much stronger than last year imo.

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Sterlin should not be used as sub at all! His game may waver as still young but until that may happen he should play ahead of most others I think

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If Sanchez doesn`t wanna come, there`s nothing that can be done about it. But if he does want to join, then it`s Sanchez plus cash or no deal.

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28 Jun 2014 12:46:08
Mr believe I noticed your reply to my comments regarding Luis. affectively you are calling me a liar and I would like to point out I am not.
I read your name and I suggest you yourself BELIEVE that I have not and will not celibrate a goal the man scores again.
I personally hope he never plays for us again but if he does I will urge all supporters not to cheer a goal he scores regardless of how great or important.
Anyway I hope we all can enjoy a great season ahead

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28 Jun 2014 13:10:21
That's just really stubborn if I'm being honest yes he was stupid, but to say you'd never celebrate a goal of his again is stupid. Say we do keep him we make champions league final which with a player of his calibre is actually a pretty plausible possibility and then it's 1-1 90tg minute and suarez scores a solo goal after running past 4 players and smashing home, you're telling me you're just going to sit on the sofa with a frown on your face? Will you balls, you'll be up screaming like every other fan in the world if we do keep him it won't take long for people to celebrate his goals once again nor will it take long for the luis suarez chants to be in full flow.

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Yes mate ok whatever you say. Get a grip will ya

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I will celebrate every Liverpool goal. Doesn't matter who scores it.

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{Ed001's Note - I see every goal as a Liverpool goal, half the time I don't even know who has scored as I am too busy celebrating. I don't see them as Sturridge or Suarez or whoever's goals, they are Liverpool's and the whole team has a part in each of them.}

Yes that is correct I will not cheer even if it was the final. I have not cheered one goal he has scored since the Chelsea scandel. Why would I cheer now. let's hope we do win champions league and I hope with out luis.

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The kop WILL NOT chant his name

neither will anyone celebrate a goal for Suarez sake but for the sake of the team

When Flanagan scored against Spurs I almost cried, whenever Gerrard pumps one in i'm f***ing ecstatic - but for them and the team as a whole

If Suarez ever gets himself on the scoresheet for Liverpool again I won't be standing there shouting his name or his praises. ever

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Here here Ed well said.

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Of course the fans will forgive him. If he stays and starts scoring they will go wild and his name will be chanted even louder. No one cares as long as we are winning. And the posters who want him gone will be posting about his qualities. We football fans are such a fickle bunch. Oh, and by the way, fans of other clubs will be booing him and wishing that he was playing for them. Right or wrong, that is how it is .

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{Ed001's Note - sorry but that is simply not true. Most fans may be fickle and lack morals but I want him gone and will not cheer him. I will continue to cheer for the team, but I would never cheer him.}

Ed I really don't think it's fair to call fans fickle for supporting suarez it's a subject which as you could see by the poll results is cut straight down the middle with two very differing opinions for me personally I want to be competing at the very top level and that's the champion league final and I know it would be a whole lot more achieveable with a suarez in our team and for that reason I would cheer when he scores in such matches because it's helping to achieve what we all want. Sorry for the rant I just feel it's unfair to call fans with a differing opinion 'fickle'

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{Ed001's Note - you may not think it fair, but then you outlined why it is fickle. Odd that. And a completely pointless whine showing that you clearly lack morals and just want to win now. I really don't care what is more achievable with him in the team, not that it matters if he is sat on the sidelines watching after yet another ban. Now please stop wasting my time on the little turd. I am sick of hearing about him. You are adding nothing new, just the usual lack of morals about not caring how vile and disgusting he is or how many people he hurts so long as we win. Sickening.}

28 Jun 2014 12:22:54
£20m for Moreno
£6m for Ben Davies
Mmmh.
Is Moreno worth £14m extra for a left back?

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{Ed001's Note - in my personal opinion, Davies is over priced, I am not a fan at all. Though a lot of his weaknesses could have been down to Laudrup's training methods, ie no training when it is raining, as he clearly lacked stamina last season. He didn't track back much, and, in one game I watched, it got to the last ten minutes and he was stumbling over out of sheer exhaustion while trying to chase someone down. He was also very careless in possession, seemed to lack any real desire to fight for the cause. Like I said though, I am not sure how much of that was down to Laudrup.}

Ed, you`re joking, right? No training on a rainy day? No wonder Laudrup got the sack.

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28 Jun 2014 11:46:04
Ilori - Eds, after a good loan spell do you believe he will graduate to squad player for us this season, he looked really quick and solid last season?

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{Ed001's Note - hard to say, because it comes down to his personality and what he has to say for himself. He wanted to go out on loan last season, which is why he went, rather than the club wanted to send him out. Judging by that, in my opinion he will see how close he is to the first team in the early part of the season. I expect him to look for a loan if he is not getting a run, or even a move away if he really lacks patience.}

Appreciate the feedback Ed001, personally hope he stays and fights, with Kolo and Agger moving on possibly, he should get a rub, even if we sign a Lovren type.

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{Ed001's Note - I would like to see him given a run myself.}

28 Jun 2014 12:35:38
I expect this guy to have a massive part to play in the future at our club but I also expect him to go out on loan for the first half of the season .

I feel he needs more than nine matches at Granada to be ready for the Premier League , just an opinion .

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It seems like he just wants to play football, hopefully its a hunger for the game Amd to improve rather than am arrogant 'i should be playing' attitude

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Would like to see him go somewhere in england or get a few starts for us. looks promising

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Ilori should be given a chance so we can see what he`s all about. However, he has to earn it.

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28 Jun 2014 11:29:22
Edd001 what.do you make of.lovren.as.a CB? i.think.he would make a formidable partnership with sako

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{Ed001's Note - I thought he was among the best, maybe even the best, CB in the Prem last season. I would like to emphasis the maybe, as the ones that stood out the most, Distin and Kompany, spent more time on the sidelines than he did, but were better when playing. He doesn't have the pace of either of those, but he does have great positional sense, is strong, good in the air and good on the ball too. He looks like he would compliment Sakho perfectly. He would be the realistic option I would go for, unless Varane comes out today and asks for a move to us!}

Edd do you think we.will get.him? Arsenal and.barca are.keen and we look busy with other targets. Atm

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{Ed001's Note - we have never once signed a player I had down as my first choice, so on that basis, no.}

Hi Ed,

Do you think Varane would want to move from Real Madrid (not saying we would get him etc. )?

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{Ed001's Note - if he does move, I would expect Chelsea to take him as the replacement for Terry.}

Haha okay edd, hopefully that cycle ends!

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{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed.}

Im of the understanding that lovren wants to go to spurs and play under pochettino again!

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28 Jun 2014 13:13:13
Will Southampton sell? Sorry if it sounds stupid but with lambert, lallana & shaw going - schneiderlin linked with a move will he be available? got to feel for their next manager, has to buy an entire team. Least he will have £60m to do so!

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{Ed001's Note - he wants to leave, so there is a good chance he will leave. Depends on how hard ball Southampton are going to play after losing 3 players and so many sniffing around their squad. Also depends on how hard he pushes for a move. So it is difficult to give a definite answer sorry. We can only wait and see with this one.}

Just on the subject of CB's Ed.
What do you make of Curtis Davies at Hull?
Not saying that he is who we should sign just wanted your opinion fella.
Thanks

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{Ed001's Note - not a fan at all, apart from lapses in concentration, he is easily knocked aside. Far too reliant on his pace, due to those lapses, for my liking. Not a bad player, but just not top level for me, in fact he is only just barely a Prem player, more of a Championship level centre half if you ask me.}

Distin for me is an interesting one. He never seems to get near the credit he deserves and is a very good CB, particularly given he's what, 2 years older than Toure? Not implying we should be after him or anything.

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{Ed001's Note - brilliant player for me, Everton would have finished a lot stronger last season if he hadn't suffered injuries.}

28 Jun 2014 10:54:58
What I find really refreshing is that BR and FSG genuinely seem to have a very clear plan for the short, mid and long term. They appear to be taking a systemic approach to rebuilding our great club and, even if we don't finish in the top 2 again this season, it is so nice to see that the foundations for sustained long term success (or at least a good attempt at long term success) are being laid.

Long may it continue and exciting times ahead.

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I agree, we're not going to be able to have the same financial muscle as City, Chelsea, Manchester United or Arsenal in the short to medium term; although winning leagues and champions leagues would help (all be it v v difficult).

If we can keep qualifying for the Champions league then I see no reason why we can't compete on the pitch is Brendan carries on improving and adapting as he is.

He does talk sometime when he shouldn't but it has got to be a good place to be around (even after the disappoint to the end of last season).

I'm actually happy with the signings made so far; I think they strengthen the match day squad.

Here's hoping we manage to off load some of the players that it is either not worked out for or will not make the squad; to bring some revenue in.

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Here here!

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Cheers guys

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We are finally running things the right way.

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28 Jun 2014 10:50:40
Goodmorning EDs, your patience is admirable; reading through sane and insane posts on daily basis. Your judgement of rumours I reckon, are quiet sound. It leaves me wondering 'how do you do this'? Well, just keep up the good work. YNWA

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{Ed001's Note - it requires padded walls, so that when you are banging your head against them you do no damage.}

28 Jun 2014 10:49:06
To the tune of Hey Jude.
Laaaaa-laaa-laaa
la la llanaaaaa
la la llanaaaaa
Aaaadaaaam. ;)

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28 Jun 2014 10:38:02
Welcome Adam Lallana!

Really pleased with this signing. Great player, great control, great technique, quick, attack minded and can use both feet. Plus he has been captain and leader and seems to have a great attitude.

Price tag is irrelevant as that's between the clubs not the players fault.

Let's all support him fully and welcome him respectfully and properly to our great club. He had other choices and chose us

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28 Jun 2014 10:16:12
Do we know what they buy out clause in suarez contact? also do you think we would lower are asking price due to the situation we are all in.
Regards
Tom

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Why would we lower our asking price? Suarez is the 3rd best player in world football irrespective of his problems, and we know Barca are desperate to sign him. We should make them pay the asking price or at least get some players form them in exchange. 60 million euros and Sanchez would do for me.

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28 Jun 2014 14:06:01
Indian

Spot on and then call him Cannibal and Animal, As we call Torres a traitor.
We are unique, We slate those who actually gives us profit.

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80 million or 50 million with Sanchez seems reasonable to me.
I personally want Real Madrid to try and Gazump a potential Barcelona bid.
If we play it cool they may try and out do each other and we may end up with 100mil.
That would be lovely.

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{Ed001's Note - if Real Madrid now jump in and we don't end up with Sanchez, I will hold you responsible and never forgive you!!!!! Even though we have made no offer for him, it will be your fault.....}

I would take 50m + Sanchez than 100m and no Sanchez.

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28 Jun 2014 10:16:05
Reading posts over the past few days and it goes to show how fickle fans are. Nobody seems to want Suarez to stay. How long do you think you will have to wait for another player as gifted play for Liverpool? A player one of the best 3 in the world? How long ago was it we previously had a player in the best 3 in the world.

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28 Jun 2014 10:36:31
How long will it be that a players behaves So badly too!!!

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We don't need the third best player in the world, Torres was the best striker in the league with the right players behind him, the team makes the players, the players don't make the team

yea having Suarez is an advantage but you could comfortably sell him and buy 2 players better than the current stock to fit into the team alongside Sturridge

guarantee you we won't be hearing the Suarez chant at anfield next season whether he stays or not

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I will leave myself open to abuse by saying that I hope he is playing for us for many more years. There is no doubting that the boy has troubles - but I am not uneasy about him staying with us. He needs help and I hope that he gets it. I would still rather have a player with his obvious character flaws in my team than some other premiership players who get up to all sorts. He is a special player, and although I understand why a lot of fans have washed their hands of him, rightly or wrongly I'm not one of them.

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Remember we can only field 11 players
Suarez is like having 12 on the field
I want him to stay, but don't think he will. The English media have won to the detriment of the EPL and LFC
Remember Spurs last season?

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28 Jun 2014 11:02:44
2 Many Biscuits you have been drawn in by your love for Suarez and are putting the player before the club.
Liverpool is our football club and we want the best players, but when you think that Suarez has been banned for 27 games for us already you have to question whether despite his ability he is a liability?
Luis Suarez is quality but his quality brings baggage. What if the options were keep Suarez but our main Sponsors such Standard Chartered and others back out, as 888 and Addidas have done with Suarez as a individual, making a stadium revamp finacially impossible?
The flip side is that we sell Suarez, keep our main sponsors and the respect of the footballing world and have the money to buy a player who may not be quite as prolific in terms of goals:games ratio but may score as many simply because they will play more through not getting suspended for Racism, Biting an Opponent (Violent Conduct) and so on?
Sanchez or whoever we replace Suarez with may not be one of the top 3 in the world, but I can bet they won't miss 27 games in 2 and a half years through suspension.

Luis has aided the club in elevating us to a position where we can compete for the best players in the world, and the club will now move on, leaving the unpredictable turmoil of Suarez behind.

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According to reports Barca and RM are not put off by his behaviour. let's fill the team with good players that sit on the bench for England and let the world class players go to clubs like RM and Barca

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{Ed001's Note - it never stopped us dominating Europe in the past. It is about having the best team, not the best players. How can Suarez be in the best team when he spends so much time banned?}

28 Jun 2014 11:16:02
You don't need one of the best 3 players in the world to win trophies. We could potentially swap one of the top 3 players for 3/4 quality signings. Obvs just rumours but for saurez could get - Sanchez - Lallana - Shaqiri/Markovic.

As good as it is having saurez we have a budget and last season had a great starting 11 and that was about it.
Fuming at what he did, has massively derailed our season before it has even started for the second year running. Was dreaming of seeing Liverpool with two of the best strikers taking on European elite and he gets banned for half of CL games plus some big league games. So want him out.

Get rid if his antics and bans - replace him with Sanchez and add some depth and options on the bench. Bayern over the last two seasons have had quality through out (without one of the 5 best players in the world) and tore everyone to pieces, Athletico Madrid showed what a team can do over a season.
Could be a blessing in disguise if we get a decent fee for him. Torres was one of the best for us, replaced him. The same will go for Luis - thanks for getting us back to the CL and for providing some of the best individual moments I have ever seen - but has made him position at the club untenable

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JOK

You are a joke. How many games he has been banned for? He's not 12 players on the pitch then is he? With him we have won the Carling Cup. The reason we went from 7th to 2nd is far more to do with BR and his tactics, team spirit and ability to improve players - LS included. Suarez is a great player but you over-estimate his input into our improvement.

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28 Jun 2014 13:56:02
Anfield

It didn't cost a damm to our club of his banned games, Instead first in 5 years we found our-self challenging for the title.
Now don't say It was largely due to Sturridge and Sterling.
You know what dude. He would miss 9 game next season, but still end up as the top scorer and top assist.

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{Ed001's Note - if it didn't cost a damn not having him, why bother keeping him?}

Home Fan. of course it had an impact on our season him being banned for the first 6 games.
With 2 games to go in the league we were about 12 goals behind city on goal difference. If Suarez had played in those first 6 games then I would bet that the goal difference between the 2 clubs would have been only marginal.
As a result of the gap in goals it meant we went chasing the game against Palace instead of just making sure we won the game.
Surely it had an impact.

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50 games is an amazing amount of games to miss.
I can see why the club may want to sell him this season because we have the champs league to attract players.
I love Suarez as a player but I have always said that "you can't have the best 11 players in the world in the same team at the same time"
World class potential and world class players are being spotted all the time and in some circumstances being made by clubs i.e Sterling.
So if he goes then I wish him well.
I won't fawn after him because he is a tit.
A glorious tit but a tit none the less.

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28 Jun 2014 09:35:25
Eds was wondering if you can help me grasp transfer window time lines. Getting confused as to when it opens and when you can official register players. We see clubs all the time say we have signed x y z and show them on pitch holding shirt up like Fabregas. Does it Open last day of season for our domestic league only and 10th of June for international, the 12 week window. And is 1st of July just the day clubs register players because most contracts expire 30th June. Know this is the case for free transfers in the main. It's just that every single website says different dates and I just need your wisdom to clear a space in my little brain. I'll ask slysports when it shuts because I'm sure they might know the answer to that.
thanks

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{Ed001's Note - July 1st the international window opens. Domestic window opens the day after the season finishes. Deals can be completed any time, but the registration can only be transferred during a transfer window.}

28 Jun 2014 09:31:34
I think fifa have got Suarez punishment right and maybe a little bit of remorse now and then might cone in handy for him. If he behaved in a normal fashion we wouldn't be having these discussions. As they said it was the player they were punishing. Unfortunately or fortunately whatever way you look at it that player play's for us.

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28 Jun 2014 11:11:48
Fifa is the most corrupted organization in the world as per Forbes.

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Didn't need to quote Forbes on that one H.

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28 Jun 2014 11:31:25
Home fan surely this is not about fifa being corrupt. It's about Suarez behaviour and continual behaviour?

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28 Jun 2014 11:34:25
I don't deny that Fifa are corrupt but Suarez being banned and Fifa's corruption are not related, this is the same argument Uruguay are using and it's a shallow empty claim.

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28 Jun 2014 14:00:08
My point was FIFA didn't got a dammmmm thing right ever.
If they were right Zidane would have been Remembered for a very bad reason as he had almost 15 head butts in his professional career.

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{Ed001's Note - but Zidane is remembered for his head butt in the final.}

Wait Zidane headbutted 15 ppl? how did I miss that? when? can't even find em on google.

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28 Jun 2014 09:18:05
Sorry eds it's

www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists / donalogcusak

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{Ed001's Note - I just keep getting page not found on either link you sent in mate.}

28 Jun 2014 10:10:54
Format the last part of the URL as /donal-og-cusak/

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{Ed001's Note - http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/donal-og-cusack/ there got it thank you.}

28 Jun 2014 11:27:07
Fantastic article a lot a food for thought

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Cheers something red, I'm brutal with links :)

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If you want to hear any good debate about Suarez then I would recommend typing Rec178 into youtube. It's RTE's panallists discussing the suarez ban. It is really god punditry, not like that BBC s'@t

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28 Jun 2014 09:13:17
If Suarez is sold, what forwards out there could replace him?

I know we won't ever get a player as good but it's going to be very difficult to find a one who will be available.

Sturridge I think will get better and better, he has all the skill IMO to be a great but he still will need help to share the burden.

Do we have any young players at the club who might step up?

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Alexis Sanchez

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28 Jun 2014 09:06:56
Looks like we have beaten Spurs to the signing of Devock Origi, the Belgian striker. Feels good to get one over them for once. Would appreciate a summary of his strengths and weaknesses as a player if someone's seen him play on a regular basis since I don't follow ligue 1.

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28 Jun 2014 10:26:15
He gets involved in a fine orgy I hear.

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If you look at 'This is Anfield' site they have a good summary of the guy. (Sorry Eds, love this site the best just trying to help)

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I knew someone would end up mentioning orgy, Real AG.
Hence "strengths and weaknesses as a player."

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I'll do a review on him later tonight if you want. I've seen him play a lot as I follow the Ligue One. I'll do Lallana and Can as well.

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Thanks a lot EMS. Looking forward to the review.

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28 Jun 2014 09:05:46
Macca, any news?

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28 Jun 2014 07:50:13
Lallana medical today for 25m switch

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28 Jun 2014 09:42:21
Goodluck to the lad it's not his fault he is deemed a 25m price tag but Everton fans usually make good Liverpool players lol.

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Never rated the lad as a first team player. Hope he can prove me wrong.

Good luck Lallana

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28 Jun 2014 05:37:53
I had the delusional thoughts through the early part of the World Cup that Suarez would be a Pool icon for many more years. and then the bizarre stories started coming out of his unhappiness with the English press, or being slighted at not being missed for games, etc, etc. So I think to myself, this guy while a football genius is perhaps somewhat unbalanced, as in, the fine line between genius and madness? He seems great when in the cocoon of Melwood/Anfield and feeling the love/affection and then when he is distant the Twilight Zone crazy animal on the wing of the plane syndrome kicks in. And I really think that is the case. With distance, the demons set in. and then of course the madness happens!

Now with all the rumors of the Liverpool action in the transfer market, it is pretty apparent (despite these stories only being rumors) that Pool have moved on. And I think I am almost at peace with that. almost! Hard to give up on arguably one of the top 3 players in the world. but the club is always the ultimate and you look at Gerrard and his hard decision not to join Chelsea and stay with Pool, etc, etc and you look at Suarez and the constant drama. and you know what, let's just move on.

I could argue he had an amazing season. I could argue he has been injury free for the most part. I could argue he is an incredible genius.but equally I can argue that that last season can't be reproduced, his body will only begin to break down from here on in, and he is arguably the flip side of genius.so if someone comes in with an astronomical figure, you really can't argue with a sale? Lallana, Can, Lambert and hopefully more show the club is truly committed to moving forward. Sanchez and Markovic (yes, let's be greedy) would be an fearsome lineup for the new season.

I am so disappointed in Suarez. I gave him the benefit of the doubt on several occasions but. he is still a genius.

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Amen brother, my thoughts exactly
Ynwa

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28 Jun 2014 09:30:09
His first goal against both Spurs home and away games are a nightmare for BR to address.
A replacement?. I don't see it from Lionel Messi himself.

John Rudy and Norwich would be celebrating BTW.

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Even though Suarez did wrong and understand the anger of some fans. I can't help thinking that some of his football last year was out of this world and with him in our team next season we can challenge for the league and and champions league. What ever the club do i'm behind them at the end of the day.

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28 Jun 2014 10:28:05
Oh yeah BR goes around choosing what type of goals Suarez scores at Spurs every season.

It is getting very silly and quite frankly embarrassing to see your posts Harry.

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Harry please stop with this Suarez love fest. We may not be able to replace all of his goals, but by bringing in a proper wide forward who would also provide protection to the fullback would bring better balance to the team, and we would concede less goals. I can see BR changing the team's style of play with champions league football. don't expect the team to go gung-ho at the opposition, we will score less goals but also concede less.

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I don't think BR has to necessarily replace Suarez. I think he is more than capable of changing the system slightly to get more contribution from the team as a whole.

Just a view lads, calm down. :-)

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28 Jun 2014 11:16:04
To Indian and Real Ag.

All I meant how good he was.
If we don't end up in Top 4 next season in his absence, don't even bother to post execpt. ". we ll support even We are in 2nd division. "
That would be the only excuse you ll be having

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{Ed001's Note - Harry please stop it now! We are not going to get relegated because Suarez goes. You are just repeating the same bull on every post. It is boring and repetitive. Move on or change the bleeding record.}

Strongly agree with all Suffolk's post today!

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Lots of people said the same when Torres left. 'Our only world class player blah blah blah'

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28 Jun 2014 11:39:35
Suarez has been with LFC for 3 and half years and we only finished 2nd last season.

I can post whenever I want as long as the Eds allow it.

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I can assure u Harry we will finish in the top4 as long as we replace Suarez with the likes of Sanchez, Markovic/Shaqiri and Lallana. They would give better balance to the team than having two centre forwards on the pitch at the same time.

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28 Jun 2014 03:53:49
Reading the newspapers my dream transfer window would be

In:sanchez, can, lambert, lallana, origi, lovren, rojo or Rodriquez or Moreno, markovic, ochoa

Out:suarez, agger, enrique

Take into account fsg said we had 60m to spend before the Suarez stuff after the Suarez sale I think we could get all these players

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I'd love for us to go for Cuadrado but not seen any links to him for months.
Shame he's some player!

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28 Jun 2014 08:51:53
Fsg never said that. Where are you getting your info?

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Are u high mate? U want 8-9 players in one window and actually expect all of them to gel in a couple of weeks?
And where did u get the 60 million pound figure from? The Daily Fail?
There is no set transfer budget which the eds have been stressing for eternity. 6 players max for me would do.
Sanchez, Lallana, lambert, Can, Moreno and Lovren will do. No need to go on a panic buying spree.

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28 Jun 2014 09:16:17
Thinking about how well our team did all them changes are excessive. 8 players in?! When suarez goes I'm hoping we can get a cb and lb as main priority. Sanchez would be amazing but unlikely I think lallana and Shaquri would be brilliant

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Rediculous in a word

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If you are dreaming why not also keep the best striker in the world? Unless he is giving you nightmares.

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Red twist

But the only starter from the end of the season who'll be leaving is Suarez. We had 14 players that we relied on last year and the signings will ensure we have a really strong match day 18 with some potential for the future on top. We usually buy 6-8 players and let a similar number go. Difference this year is the number of high fees involved!

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28 Jun 2014 11:37:57
LFC have looked at Cuadrado as Ed002 has been telling everyone, as far back 2 months back.

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28 Jun 2014 03:16:26
Potential scenario:
Luis Suarez sold to Barcelona or Real Madrid.
Liverpool drawn in Barcelona's or Real Madrid's CL group.
People will lose their rubbish.

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28 Jun 2014 08:35:39
Only one game though. He's banned from first three Champions League games.

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Or in the final! Ha hollywood story

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Remember Torres.

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28 Jun 2014 02:11:54
Any news on Agger?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

28 Jun 2014 02:09:55
Hi eds just wondering if you think if Liverpool sell suarez they may go back to sign moreno as they willl have the funds to pay upfront then? Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea.}

I hope so!

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28 Jun 2014 00:57:13
Suarez is not even allowed to take a team photot with the squad if he stays. Now that is harsh.

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Yeah forget the 4month/9 game ban.
Forget the World Cup.

The team photo must really hurt.

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Ken, that did make me laugh! :-)

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27 Jun 2014 22:56:01
Hello Eds

Sorry for another Suarez question but I would like to ask about his position in cabin if it is not too sensitive information. We all know that good player doesn't always means popular player (like Ibra in Ajax). I know that Luis had sometimes some problems with other players on training (e.g. with Skrtel). But it was always keeping quiet. I know also that he has probably good relationship with StevieG as I read some articles in newspapers about respect to each other. Maybe Steven has some word in decision to let Suarez leave. At least his opinion will be highly rated. I think cabin opinion on the situation is very important for team success for next season. How do players take him? Do you know any reaction of players in cabin on current situation? Without any emotions, taken into account only rational reasons, Suarez departure seems like best option in this moment for everyone. It is WIN WIN WIN situation. For the player, for us and for Barca as well. let's hope responsible people are smart enough to make this transfer real (including Sanchez). Thank you for your answers and patience with us, you are doing great job.
No one is bigger than club.

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{Ed002's Note - I really don't understand the question.}

For cabin read dressing-room

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I think he means do the other players like him?

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{Ed001's Note - the answer is yes, he gets on well with his team mates.}

Puzzled, Jesus thanks for translation
Eds Thanks for answers
Sorry for my english.

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{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, we got there in the end.}

28 Jun 2014 00:58:45
Can't believe it's 3 days until 1st July - Opening of the transfer window.

Roll on the new season (hopefully without Suarez and the necessarily players in place).

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28 Jun 2014 00:26:39
This is going to sound stupid but I've got a mate who's brothers a Liverpool scout. I've never met him before the other month and he told me about the Can deal weeks before it happened. Anyway he showed me loads of picture on his mobile of him and Can in Germany so I knew it was happening. He also told me the Lallana deal was 'done' before the World Cup even started. I didn't really pay much attention to him because I put it down to bullsquat, but he also said Shaw to United was 'done' also, he only knew that because Liverpool went in for him but obviously a deal was in place with UTD. Now yesterday he was saying 'Sanchez' to Liverpool is on aswel 95% done apparently, but he said like all deals they can always break down at any point over the smallest of things.
Not in the slightest claiming to be ITK but I thought I'd pass it on. It is silly season after all. Time will tell if it's true.

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The Lallana situation was a bit weird on the media side so that all sounds plausible imo. fingers crossed for Alexis

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Actually your source does make sense. DBol. Southampton were only delaying the Lallana's imminent departure to get in a new manager who would give the approval for the deal to go ahead. Hope your right about Sanchez. We could build a very versatile and competent team around him to great effect.

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28 Jun 2014 08:53:30
Thanks DBol.

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Others who know Lallana indirectly have made posts in past several weeks that the deal was done in May, and that both clubs were waiting for the right time to finalize and make announcement.

So your source is quite credible.

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Only thing i'd say is that if he said all the other deals were done why would he now say 95% likely?

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28 Jun 2014 10:30:30
He must be a Mathematical genius to calculate to such accuracy in percentages.

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Ha I think he must be a maths genius mate. What I will say is Liverpool are definitely paying him well because the guys loaded. Yeh I don't get the 95% thing either Shanek. From what I gathered though Liverpool are doing everything they can on bringing in in Alexis so we'll soon see

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Think by 95% he means that if nothing goes wrong. and boy can things go wrong.

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27 Jun 2014 22:53:58
Do you think that we hold a serious interest in markovic? Do you think we would be more likely to move for markovic or shaqiri?

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{Ed002's Note - This has been done to death.}

27 Jun 2014 22:38:34
Hey ed's,
Obviously it has been stated that lfc are trying to get a winger in to add to the potential lallana signing.
All I wanted to know was when suarez goes do you see this adding a 3rd attacking player to our wanted list?
Always appreciate you time ed's
Thanks
YNWA *****

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{Ed002's Note - This has been done to death.}

27 Jun 2014 21:59:12
Hi Ed,
According to the FIFA Disciplinary Code "all parties have the right to be heard" so my question would be.
Were Liverpool offered the chance to be represented at the Luis Suarez Hearing?

Its my contention that if FIFA were going to consider a judgement which could include Liverpool, and therefore make them a 'Party' in the proceedings, the club should have been offered the courtesy of making representations prior to any decision being made. If they weren't did FIFA break their own rules?

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{Ed002's Note - What has it to do with Liverpool.}

I agree Ed, Its nothing to do with Liverpool which is exactly why the ban should be at international level only.

As it isn't then maybe they should be allowed as its currently their player and they stand to lose out more than any other party.

Don't get me wrong I'm not justifying Suarezs actions but the poster has a point

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27 Jun 2014 21:32:23
Hi Eds, Any interest in Blaise Matuidi?

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{Ed002's Note - Not from LFC.}

27 Jun 2014 23:29:02
Very happy with our transfers soo far.
Can is an.exciting prospect, very.exciting. Lallana well, I've wanted him.for months. Top drawer, will flourish in our system. Lambert is one I Will comment on next may but il be.supporting him all day.long.
Possible incomings, young exciting, some of the.best in europe. Liverpool's finally rebirthing boys ;)

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Me to Al. I'm happy with the business so far.
Some of the attacking players we're looking at are not the finished article I.e. Markovic, Shaqiri, Origi. But they're very exciting.

But Liverpool have never purchased stars, we make them. And if anyone is going to get the full potential out of a player its that man Brendan Rodgers!

If Liverpool pull of the Sanchez signing it would probably be the first world class player Liverpool have ever purchased without making them a star.

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Totally agree Al Boy

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Sorry but Luis Suarez was already a world class player when we signed him, I hadn't been as excited about a transfer since John Barnes.
Torres was also a massive name, as was Litmannen just slightly too old to really produce unfortunately.
As for Sanchez I'm not convinced that he's consistent enough but he's certainly got the talent.
If he were to come I can definitely envision some breathtaking moments ahead.
PS welcome Adam Lallana (assuming deal comes off), Rickie Lambert andEmre Can!
YNWA

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Aggers Mohawk, your right about Sanchez. Probably the only ready made world class player we will have purchased (if the deal goes through that is) in quite some time. Suarez and Torres were not world class when we bought them, we made them world class. Would be even more sweet since we would beat the likes of Bayern, Juve, Arsenal and the mancs to his signature. Never been this excited about any signing for quite some time.

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Si B I would argue that sanchez has accomplished more than suarez or torres had before joining Liverpool

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Errr Kenny Dalglish?

He was a world class player at Celtic.

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ShaneK
While I do not deny Sanchez has performed at a high level and is rated by nearly all observer's, I do not believe he is yet at the stage Suarez was at when we signed him. Suarez had shone at world cup (albeit with yet more controversy) and was the main man at Ajax.
Sanchez, probably due to signing forBarca too early has primarily been a substitute and still has to fulfill his potential.
And as for Torres, he was destined to be Spain greatest ever player when we bought him.
Ynwa

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{Ed001's Note - Sanchez has shined in Italian football, while it was still a lot stronger than Dutch football, he has also performed superbly for his country over an extended period of time. And as for Torres, that is simply utter lies. He was dividing opinion before we bought him, but he was far from being destined to be Spain's greatest ever player. He wasn't even the best Spanish player we had!}

Ed001
As a long time visitor to this site I would firstly like to say that of all the posters on here it is your opinion I respect the most. And also thank you and congratulations on making this the best LFC site on the net.
However we will have to agree to disagree on this one.
I believe people are getting caught up in the favour of the month and looking at the present with rose tinted glasses while not fully appreciating events of the past.
I hope that my views do not offend as I am a huge fan.
Ynwa

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{Ed001's Note - I have been watching Sanchez since he was a kid mate, I have been calling for us to sign him since before he went to Italy. I don't think I can be accused of being caught up in the flavour of the month.
As for the rest, I can remember the debate clearly about Torres, there was a split between those who thought he would be excellent and those who didn't. There was never anyone who thought he was the best Spanish player though. Not even the Atletico Madrid fans thought that. He was also never as good as Xabi Alonso, and quite clearly never will be now. Though I might be biased on that point as I absolutely love Xabi, I don't feel Torres ever reached his level, excellent though he was for us for a time.
Thank you for the compliments, and no, not offended at all. I may sometimes be harsh, or come across as harsh with people, but that is more because of the time factor. I have limited time to type out my replies and sometimes don't have time to arrange the words to make my point in a more relaxed sounding way. So I know it can seem like I am wound up or biting, but I am just rushing to make a point quickly. If ever I do feel myself getting wound up, I just put the computer aside and do something else for a bit, like paperwork. That soon saps any emotion and life out of you!}

Ha ha then I thank you for such a long and thoughtful response!
PS I was against the Torres deal at the time because I wanted us to go for Villa.
Keep up the hard work Eds, we love you all
Ynwa

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{Ed001's Note - exactly mate, that was the thing at the time, Villa was seen as better. I have to be honest, I wasn't convinced by Torres, he looked too raw and I was completely wrong, as he was a success.}

27 Jun 2014 23:10:01
Hi all,

It seems likely that we will be getting Lallana and Origi, and there are possibilities of Shaqiri and Sanchez coming in as well, right guys?

If so, this window could turn out to be one hell of a window I would say. I'm excited, and hopefully those coming in can gel well, and next season could be much more exciting than the last.

I've read some statements on Suarez, especially from Chiellini, and I've started to feel for him. He's on the brink of losing all his sponsors, along with the ban, and probably some other things as well. Now he already received his punishment. Whether it is a fair or excessive punishment, he deserved to be punished. But he's a father, and a husband. I'm just wondering how hard it would be for him, his wife and kids.

I would say staying is not an option for him anymore, and I hope he will be getting a new club soon. This guy is a real talent, and maybe he will come back stronger and better after this, with his new club of course.

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Sorry have to disagree with your comment about losing your sponsors - it's not like he will not be able to feed his family for the next four months.

He obviously has issues; I think Fifa could've got a lot of credit by suggesting a programme for mental health (not saying it would've worked) just think that banning and fining him is not the right move (like take that - that will stop you next time; where as insisting on doing this and saying any recurring instance will result in this punishment).

If we are offered upwards of £75m we should take it; £45-£50m + Shanchez would be good - pay for the summer signings already brought in; then just Lovren and a LB (Moreno or Rojo).

Obviously some outgoings as well but I think we would have a strong team throughout in all positions.

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28 Jun 2014 09:24:00
Thanks for your reply Hoola.

Regarding he will be losing this and that, what I meant is not about feeding his family throughout that 4 months. You know, something beyond that; shame, his career in the future (it'll affect his family) etc.

But still, like I've said previously, he deserved to be punished, his actions need to be punished.

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