Liverpool Banter Archive July 28 2013

28 Jul 2013 23:31:02
I wasnt a fan to begin with, but
I actually liked the white kit we played in against Thailand. Looked smart.

Tilwud

Agree with you on that. I think it's the way that the kits were advertised that was kind of poor tbh. It was similar last season. They seem to go for the dark and 'dull' (for want of a better word) theme, which doesn't do most of the kits justice, or at least I think. {Ed001's Note - I hung a load of washing out yesterday, the only thing with bird shhhh on it was the white kit! So it seems birds don't like it, at least not the feathered kind anyway.}

I think both the away and 3rd kits have looked better 'in the flesh', they do look better on the pitch than they do in pictures like.

Yes its growing on me also, but its the red home shirt that I will buy .
redforever

Nah not keen. Looks like the front is untucked due to the black and white.

28 Jul 2013 23:12:25
With all the rumours circulating about a takeover are we actively trying to sell the club and has any talks been underway with who please can you help

I don't think we are actively looking to sell the club but if an offer comes in around £600M (just putting a price out there, nothing to do with any inside info) I'm sure they would at least consider.

I think they would do more than consider if a 600M offer came in. Henry would probably immediately fly to your desired location and hand over the keys to the Shankly Gates.

I suspect FSG underestimated how poorly the club had been run previously and what sort of financial shape it was actually in. A bit of a failure in the due diligence process but I think that was all a bit rushed. Probably doesn't help that they might have thought it reasonable that the club should actually be profitable when apparently in European football that's rather more the exception than the rule.

28 Jul 2013 23:11:13
Looking at the team over the pre-season friendlies the team isn't that different from the one that ended last season. With everyone else strengthening there starting line up, I'm just hoping we don't get left behind this season. Hope we bring in a couple players that'll go into the starting line up or at least compete, as think the rest of the players we've brought in are squad players, except Mignolet.

I think Alberto can surprise some people this year, I was sceptic when we bought him, but he clearly is a good technical, smart player who can hold the ball.

You mean the starting line up that beat spurs and smashed Newcastle, during a 13 game unbeaten run that put us right up there on the form table? God forbid.
Daveyliver

28 Jul 2013 22:52:39
Here from India and to answer Macca's question.
I feel Michu will b a good signing but he's 27 and owner mite not allow such a player especially considering Suarez is leaving.But if he signs I will support him no matter what people say about him.

28 Jul 2013 22:50:50
Macca - I would be delighted if we signed michu, play in numerous positions, scores great goals and we should of signed him when he was at rayo and gave them pacheco or somefin at the same time, now we will pay 16-20m, + with laudrup wanting another striker u got to wonder why, they already have bony, sell michu then they will bring in another.

REDAN

28 Jul 2013 22:47:24
I would take Michu in exchange for Borini and cash.

Marc

28 Jul 2013 21:35:30
We have got to have a few deals in the pipeline already. We were looking at bringing in Mkhitaryan for 22 million a couple of weeks ago.

Since then we have sold Carroll (15 million) and Shelvey for a further 6 million. Last week we loaned out Reina and have seen his 100,000 a week wages gone from the wagebill.

We could still see Suarez leave for a further 50-55 million. This totals roughly 90-100 million, not counting the wages that have come off the wagebill.

In addition to the above we Could still see Downing, Spearing, Coates and Skrtle leave also which is roughly another 22 million and in total possibly 520,000 a week from the wagebill gone.

Seems likely Cissokho is arriving on loan with posibility of a 4 million deal next year.

I'd like to see us bring in with the above funds

L. Muriel. 15-20 million.
Bernard. 15-20 million.
C. Eriksen. 15 million.
T. Alderweireld 7 million or K. Papadopulos 12-15 million.

This would still give us significant funds for further strengthening still ( roughly 40-58 million ). For me the squad would be strong enough with those four signings.

Jonesred

Indeed Jones, the additions you mentioned plus our existing players would amount to a very strong squad. I would gladly settle for Muriel and Cissokho at this stage. Here's hoping! Uglygeordiegenius

Personally, if the players that we regard as deadwood where to be shipped off (Pacheco, spearing, Assaidi, Coates, possibly downing and skrtel) along with the inevitable sale of Suarez, I would only purchase 3-4 players. A CB, AM, Forward and maybe another LB (on loan). Papadopoulos or alderweireld for CB, Eriksen or benard for AM. Muriel or another realistic forward. None of these will happen, even though they are available to a certain extent. They have never really been our targets, and where clearly taking a different approach to who we sign. I don't think we will be seeing a marquee signing for a while, let's put it that way.

I think we shouldn't go for three attacking mids/strikers, we have Cou and Sturridge, we ain't going to play with five, and none of them wanna be on the bench.

I would rather see a DM and a right back.

28 Jul 2013 12:39:33
Ed001 if you're around, IF the Sheikh buys us, how do you think it'll affect us? And more importantly, will you like it?

Cheers {Ed001's Note - impossible to say. Again depends on who or why they bought in.}

Is it possible that if they did actually buy us and want instant success but BR and co are against that, we would be forced by the owners to by those type of players. Has there been any cases of this happening in the past? Just something on my mind and I would appreciate if anyone could answer. Cheers.

Personally Ed I wouldn't want a Sugar Daddy. Obviously I'd like if we had owners with a bit more money for transfers (but understand FSG precautions due to wastage of money on Carroll etc) but I do not want a load of greedy selfish persons joining the club who only care about their big fat pay cheque. And also what happens if they're sick of pumping money into LFC? What happens to our club then? It would probably be a mixture between Leeds and Portsmouth with our beloved club down in the divisions. While these oil barons are great short term, long term I see them as nothing but trouble.

Irish redman

28 Jul 2013 20:51:47
Hey Ed, just in your opinion, what positions do you expect Liverpool to strengthen if Suarez was to leave? Thanks . {Ed030's Note - I hope LB,LW,Cam and Cb obviously it's unlikely we get all. }

28 Jul 2013 22:37:21
Why cam as opposed to cdm?
It seems much stronger with Coutinho, Gerrard, Alberto and Henderson all capable of filling that role to an acceptable standard as opposed to just having Lucas atm; Allen doesn't quite seem to be able to time his tackles well enough currently.

Lucas is good enough that we don't need anyone to compete with him imo, and when he's out we don't need to have an out-and-out defensive mid, just a flexible midfield with players knowing their roles and being disciplined (particularly Gerrard). I think we need to sign an attacking midfielder, whether out wide or in the centre I don't mind because Coutinho can play from the left. If Suarez leaves I think we'll need a cam and attacking wide player.

Red Ollie

29 Jul 2013 05:18:29
I was thinking more about coverage than competition, cause the team was massively out of balance when Lucas was missing

28 Jul 2013 19:48:28
can anyone here see zlatan ibrahimovic and edison cavani playing together for psg, well ibra has just told a journo he's been in contact with ancelotti at at madrid,
now to me it makes more sense pairing wise to have
a ibra/ronaldo partnership at madrid and a cavani/suarez(or rooney) at psg, so to sum up louis suarez is going to paris

Wouldn't surprise me if he went to PSG. they're patiently waiting to pull the rug from under Arsenal and Real. hopefully at least a 60m rug!

28 Jul 2013 18:58:10
How High do people reckon Wenger will bid for suarez, I can't see them wanting to hit the 50-55mil area Rodgers is talking about, and surely wenger knows Liverpool would rather sell slightly cheaper to a foreign club than a prem rival. I think arsenal fans won't be happy if they miss out on suarez, especially since they all thought Higuain was in the bag.

28 Jul 2013 17:54:32
I'm not slating aspas but come on everyone, let's judge him when he's played more games against better teams! You can't judge anyone on pre-season

I agree I remember Voronin looked amazing in pre season one year.

No you can't judge aspas, but you can at least support him and help give him confidence?

Tel 1949

Even if you where to judge him in preseason how can you complain 3 goals in 4 games?

Voronin never ever looked Amazing at any point!

Except everyone can slate borini.

Oh Jesus. I forgot about voronin.!

SkiS

Voronin scored one cracking goal in European qualifiers just before the season started. went quickly down hill after that. Encouraging from Aspas, but like all new signings minimum 1 year, in some cases you have to allow 2. to properly judge.

Richards

For the second poster - I remember that as well! Voronin looked unreal in the pre-season games and then reality kicked in when the season started!

Swallybean

28 Jul 2013 17:33:54
Like most of you I'm sick of the Suarez saga, one thing I would hate to see is Suarez making money out of the deal, he should be told to put in a transfer request other wise he's staying, also if Liverpool have plans to buy anyone else they need to move now because a simple transfer of erikson could cost five mil more if we buy after the Suarez saga is over .so the game of Liverpool holding out for £50 mil could back fire on inflated price for players because they know we have money.

In a year where EPL teams may be squeezed for more money anyway (due to the awareness of increased TV revenue) this point is even more relevant!

RedLee

28 Jul 2013 17:01:14
Theres a player (or boy) that's been on my miiiiiinnd.,, all the time. Cou Cou Coutinhio - to the melody of Phil Collins tune Sussudio :-) Sure there's a Suso song in there as sonewhere as well?!

What about 'we've got coutinho you've got F*** allio'. to the old paulo di canio song?!
In Buck we trust!

28 Jul 2013 16:48:51
Just saw Joe Cole on tv news refer to Liverpool as one of teams outside of Top5 that West Ham (West Ham!) should be taking points from! He is not and has never been an intelligent man, but it still hurst when we are not even thought of as one of the Top5!
Sorry just can't get used to it and this menatality that we are building for the future! We are Liverpool not Swansea (with respect) or Norwich (respect).

YNWA

It's just his opinion.

Enlighten me as to why Liverpool are top 5. Chelsea, Utd, City, Spurs and Arsenal will all finish above Liverpool.

He's just talking up his new club. I don't want to slate him because he was a model pro at pool. But .

Barneswasbest

He may not be bright but he is speaking the truth. Yous aren't a top 5 team. Manchester United arsenal Tottenham man city and Chelsea are leap years ahead of yous in terms of players and depth, plus mr. Gerrard is on his last legs, once he goes you lot will be lucky to make the top 8. Face the facts. That little Brazilian is a special player, he will be snapped up by a bigger team in the next year or 2. Sorry to say but the truth hurts.

Perth!

Perth mate come back after this season please and say that again when were top 4 :)
And can't believe he thinks west ham should beat Liverpool? He's blatently bitter

London red

Why didn't you just say 'next season will be our season'

Perth!

So we might as well not play the upcoming season seeing we all know who what postion every ones in.

28 Jul 2013 16:27:42
I've never been convinced that Allen would be good enough in the long run but to be fair when he's played with more freedom to go forwards he does look like a good player.
I really don't want us to start playing this season again with 2 defensive mid players. Ok in some games it may be the way to go but in most cases I want BR to assume we are better than the oposition and set up as such. Throw lots into attack and make them worry about us, after all it's what we're best at.
I still think we need another forward and a CB but the CAM position may be one we shouldn't be worrying about.
I know it sounds a little childish but if only we would sign a bit of a "name" just to get everybody excited, I think it would do wonders. (Turan for me please)

Nice to see a previous ''Allen skeptic'' changing his tune.Muriel and Cissokho for me please! Uglygeordiegenius

Got to agree with the Turan shout Chris. Don't think it's ever going to happen, but I still love watching him play.

BigBadBeb

I thought you wanted Coates in the starting eleven?

DaveyBootle

Why do people want Cissokho. Seriously he is no better than Enrique and an average crosser. He is a Norwich level player. {Ed030's Note - He will provide really good cover and give Jack Robinson the chance to go out on loan,It's a good deal if you ask me. }

Cissokho has great potential but seemingly has failed to live up to expectation.At 25 he is young enough to turn it around and like Coutinho could prove a gem in BR's hands. As Ed030 rightly says, its a good deal! Uglygeordiegenius

No Davey, I'd just keep him and give him a bit longer before I decided on his future.

28 Jul 2013 15:55:45
Toure looking very solid and organises well. could be a big suprise for us this year, real coupe for us, just what we need.

Evered

28 Jul 2013 15:18:23
Just a note. Take no notice whatsoever to the betting odds for transfers. Some firms have Soldado to Spurs at 1/10 which right now is wayyyy too skinny and some firms have us as favs for Lescott after the window and 3/1 2nd favs to get shaun wright phillips!. Yeah. cause that's happening! lol

gave me a giggle that lol

YNWA JFT96

29 Jul 2013 01:57:39
Saw a guy on twitter who says he is #19,000 on the waiting list so 2, 500 is a farce

28 Jul 2013 15:08:54
here's an interesting fact that I came across
The last time Liverpool held the opposition scoreless through its first four preseason matches was 1999. 14 seasons ago. Incidentally, Liverpool finished 4th that season - Houllier's first full season - after finishing 7th the season before

28 Jul 2013 15:04:58
if suarez leaves I honestly don't think we'll be losing our best player anymore, I think that mantle has passed onto coutinho now and I can see him doing what bale did this year and win both player and young player of the season next season

Nothing like the pressure of great expectation to lift your game!

Calm down don't put too much pressure on him. He will have periods were he fades. Ala David Silva who was godly when he started then had a few dips.

28 Jul 2013 19:18:34
dont worry. NO cl next season can see countinho leaving

Coutinho and Lucas will have a massive season. Brazil world cup squad positions up for grabs

28 Jul 2013 14:59:39
We have a young average age at the moment so what's wrong with adding top quality like Soldado, who at 28 has at least 7/8 good years at the top, strikers may get a little slower pace wise but their brain stays sharp! KD is a good example, thought we passed well today, Courtinho's goal was magic, Gerrard was poor I thought, even tho' he scored his passing was not his usual standard, but hey, it was very hot ec. Enrique looked a bit heavy legged as well, but still early days I hear you say, I am looking forward to who we buy before the window shuts, I hope its Erikson, Soldado and Toby, fingers crossed.

7/8 good years? Made me laugh.

28 Jul 2013 14:21:38
Coutinho ran the show again today, I can see him having an excellent season. He just keeps getting better and better every time I watch him, high hopes the the campaign ahead.
YNWA

Number7

28 Jul 2013 14:03:41
Hopefully the rumours of the medicals this week are true. Just itching for some new players!

GuvTOB

And not like Mkhitaryan's rumoured medical with us back in June!

I'm pretty sure it's only been about 2 weeks (14 days) since the last signing. We can't sign someone every week!

28 Jul 2013 13:58:24
Suarez can f**k right off.who does he think he is.let him rot in the reserves that, like spurs done with modric(albeit for a few weeks).i was embarrassed to watch him today, and this coming from someone who thought the Sun shone out of his arse.just don't believe how he's treating us.maybe i'm being naive, but I know i'm pissed off.

He didn't do to bad today! nearly scored. We all know he wants champs league football. As long as we get a good deal and he doesn't go to a prem club then good luck to him. We could double our money in only 2 years, leave the guy alone. always gave 100% for us when played (upart from last week)

Kindergarden broken up for summer holidays I presume - get real, no pre-season training as such - give the lad a break.

Try turning your anger to positively supporting our players, instead of criticizing them then? . or try anger management classes maybe?

Tel 1949

It was a friendly, deep breaths la

28 Jul 2013 13:53:02
Countinho excellent, gerrard excellent, aspas superb today. Henderson good and allen very' good. The team played great football today and look like hitting form just before season starts. Very excited' if we can get a top goalscorer and other CB in when suars goes, IMO top four without a doubht. If we kick on qnd the team maintains a winning mentality, we will challenge, all the ingredients are there to make a fine cake ;)

Easy enough then as we already have a top goal scorer he is called Daniel sturridge.

I think a special mention should go out to our fitness coach 3 weeks till the season starts and we have 4/5 players already fit to play 90 minutes I think that show what hardwork is going around behind the scenes so well done lads.

28 Jul 2013 13:46:26
Well 4 games, 4 wins, 0 goals conceded, all in all a great and successful tour with the fans over there on the other side of the world! let's keep this up lads!

Ack17

28 Jul 2013 13:39:39
Anybody going to whine about Aspas not being a good player now? 1 goal, 1 assist. A steal at 9 million.

Have seen him regularly last season and he can get us 20 goals this season and 10 assists.

Orrin

I really like the look of him. He did have a few stray passes today but he will improve. He has played 4 games for us in preseason and has 3 goals and an assist, not bad for only being with the team a month. I know it is only preseason but I can see him hitting 15-20 goals this season.

He is a really good player.
bt a lot of room for improvement imo

I agree mate. Fantastic signing for just 8 million, credit to our scouting system. They seem to finally have woken up after a long hibernation period. But I think around 12 goals and 8 assists would be more realistic considering it will be his first season in the premier league. Nevertheless a bargain signing imo, and also fits way better in BR's system than Cannibal.

I'm not going to whine about him Orrin, and I haven't ever either, but did you actually watch the full match? Superbly taken goal and nice lay off for Gerrard's goal but his general play was poor today so I don't see how this would quieten the moaners. His passing was very slack today let's hope he improves on today's performance.

Aspas is our very own Scarface, say hello to my little friend, I think he's going to be a steal of a deal.

28 Jul 2013 13:09:00
If luis is going to be sold, which looks like a 90% chance at the moment, then why does br keep bringing him off the bench to play, what's the point in getting him match
fit for arsenal or real madrid. if he gets a ligament injury
then he will be sulking in anfield january. imo we would be better off leaving him in england to sort out salary with london/madrid and leaving borini or sombody who wants to wear the shirt have the playing time.

28 Jul 2013 13:00:50
Not a rumour just wanted to share something for the banter. Before reading, bear in mind I'm a 30 year old bloke with a good business, two lovely kids and a very tidy wife. In not 12 and don't own a mega drive yet alone even played FIFA 13. I also go to 8 games a year at anfield. I consider myself well adjusted.

However last night I had a dream that I was tasked by BR to collect popodopolos ( spelling ) and three other signings from the airport without the press knowing. I did this alongside Macca who was wearing a ninja suit with warrior emblems. This is not a wind up but I'm beginning to think this site is affecting my mental health .

Anyone else have any odd Liverpool related dreams?

Barneswasbest ( not a troll just a mentally troubled red )

Barneswasbest, do you have any funny looking mushrooms growing in your garden mate .
I envy your life, if the only thing that trickles in your mind and dream about is football related.

Roy

Cool story

The only part I picked up on was the tidy wife ;)

Red Raw

I have been having some mental dreams this week. I think it's been a combination of too much of the Suarez saga and too much time playing dumb ways to die on the IPad. The dream I had about Suarez getting his tackle bitten by a bunch of piranhas was probably the best!

I dream were going to win the league one day. I consider myself well adjusted also!

Lovely readin! i'm so addicted to this site, but I havnt had that effect, but then again i'm only 26 and been on this site for 3 years.

Chris

I dreamt that we would have American owners before we did have and also dreamt that we bought Messi although i'm not convinced that's going to happen!

Jonny Spandex

I dreamt that we had a team of eleven Carraghers, and of course we won the Prem.
redforever

Cheers for the banter lads.

Early night for me .


Barneswasbest

28 Jul 2013 12:58:13
Ladies & gentlemen, presenting. Iago Aspas!

28 Jul 2013 12:54:07
That was a beautiful goal, coutinhos vision is second to none in the league and aspas movement is really impressive. could be a great partnership and throw in sturridge too!
cant wait for the start off the season, loving the new signings!

28 Jul 2013 12:51:00
This time next year we will be saying Coutinho is the best player in the Premier league! Mark my words!

And also fighting off clubs to keep him mark my words!

This time next year Coutinho will be a Real Madrid player mark my words!

28 Jul 2013 20:59:36
Nonsense. Absolutely nonsense. Coutinho is going no where for at least 3 more years.

28 Jul 2013 12:51:27
OK. I see posts positive and negative on here and everyone has the right to an opinion, for everyone who thinks were going in the right direction there is someone who thinks were going backwards,
Lets get one thing straight, without major investment you don't win anything, we can all bat on about doing things in the right way and creating a good model to take us forward but we do happen to be a football club first and foremost and not a business, therefore our main aim is always to win things, yes its nice to be sustainable and live within your idealistic means etc etc but what Dortmund have managed to do isn't what everyone can achieve, its not the normal system that can be implemented everywhere, i'm also suggesting it would be a system far more easily implemented in Germany than in the Premier league where we seem to have clubs investing in top drawer players every 5 minutes,
I like that we look like being straightened financially but I see flaws also, everyone granted is capable of losing a Suarez in this day and age due to the nature of the modern day footballer and no loyalty aside from the odd few, but to compete and actually start talking about Champions league football etc we need to start adding some proven quality regardless of age and experience
I don't actually although this is probably coming across as a negative post think that were doing much wrong and we certainly have had money to spend in recent seasons, but my worry is that we seem to constantly aim to sign unproven future stars/or not stars depending. In theory I like the idea but is it an ideology that will only bring what Wenger has given to Arsenal?. pretty football with a reputation for being nice to watch yet totally unruthless and potless for nigh on 8 years.
Im hopeful of a far better season and i'm hoping Mr Rodgers provides us with the proven quality to add to a very promising looking squad but with rumours building of a takeover bid albeit denied by FSG and the likelihood of no so called marquee signing being anywhere close then I think it could be an interesting one when it comes to top 4 and Rodgers future at the club, we have a good start to the season this year and hopefully we'll be up there at least within the first two months with a chance of hanging around all season.
Anyway at this point we're two up against Thailand and looking good value, Mignolet looks impressive and for anyone quoting we're not a big club compared to the likes of Arsenal anymore then take a look at our pre-season. very impressive global support
YNWA JFT96

The Guv

Sorry, but you are wrong. Liverpool FC is first and foremost a business. It has to be profitable or else it will go out of business like so many businesses during this recession. Liverpool FC just happens to be in the football business. If it does not have the money to pay its costs it will be taken in to administration like Leeds and Portsmouth and eventually drop down or even drop out the league. Or worse it will go out of existence.

The club needs to invest more than it can or should because it is playing in an uneven playing field, to be competitive. It therefore needs to do it a different way. It needs to find the Coutinho's before those team that throw money about. In this case the club should not put itself In such a position like H&G put us.

Arsenal are now showing the fruits of the policy it has had by being able to now offer 40 million for a player. We cannot do that. We are losing millions every year and following your policy Liverpool would not exist in 10 years.

I don't necessarily agree with everything in your post but like you say everyone is entitled to their own opinion and you at least have put across a well thought out point unlike some of the negative trolls who come on here. I like reading posts like yours even if I don't agree with them because it's always good to see someone else's point of view, keep it up.

29 Jul 2013 02:34:33
I wasnt aware at all that I was suggesting FSG be the people to spend said money. That would quite clearly take investment from elsewhere, lots of people on here can live in the past and troll on about effective strategies to put us in some sort of financial stronghold but the truth is Arsenal are in the position their in due to investment in a brand new modern stadium and long term qualification of the champions league. Now that's great for them and I accept that in an ideal world we would make do without a sugar daddy and plough our own furrow.

But the world and the game of football has moved on massively, you can say we're a business as much as you like and I also accept that but we ARE a football club first and foremost and winning things brings not only the riches but the constant snowballing of a fanbase through the years, as we're witnessing now. No-one likes it including me but if anyone thinks this rich mans playground situation is going to chan
ge anytime soon then they are badly mistaken, fair play regulations or not this isn't going away
The Guv YNWA JFT96

28 Jul 2013 12:37:37
Liverpool NEED to sign more players. PERIOD

we need some real quality now.

it will boost morale. it will take this sureaz saga away. and it will most importantly make our team challenge

thats all we want really. at the moment. I just feel the club are just telling us they want a few more. to kep us quiet and then when the window closes. they will say. oh we just cudnt find what we wanted


red lobster

Nothing instills confidence in players like telling them they are lacking in quality.

28 Jul 2013 12:33:52
Great goal from coutinho! Aspas is working hard looks OK. Obvioisly can't tell much from pre season games but sterling and ibe look like better options on the wing. We still need a left sided midfielder of real quality, allow coutinho to operate through the middle. I hope Allen can recapture his early form.

Thanks Neel

I liked what allen did in the last game. dictating the game from deep.
today he was more of moving forward and he got in some good position as well

28 Jul 2013 12:22:15
Are FSG thinking of selling? Is there smoke without fire? Are they already fed up with 'soccer'? And more importantly do you blame them?

Dalglish spent 100M+ on players, mostly wasted, with no return whatsoever (don't mention Carling cup, please) FSG given Rodgers money for Allen, Sturridge, Assaidi, Coutinho etc with no return whatsoever. Team is playing better but without results it means absolutely nothing!
This window we've bought minnows with potential while our rivals are buying 'QUALITY'. We have targets but seem to miss each time we fire at them! Suarez wants to leave, bad boy ought to be more loyal, but do you blame him deep down? What is there to encourage him to stay? Come on Guys, our squad is looking more and more light weight. Assaidi, one of the few who takes players on, will probably be sold. There are talk (talk, talk and more talk) of us going for Bernard, Soldado, Ericksen etc. etc. but that is all talk. we are falling more and more behind and if Suarez goes then we will really be too short. who will replace him? Who are we signing to encourage Suarez to stay, as a show of intent of ambition?
Sorry if I sound negative but we need to face reality and that at the moment does not look good! You can NOT dress average players as QUALITY! If Rodgers comes up with the marquee signings he has talked about then this fan of 40 years support (me, guys) will shut up and double my voice and support for my beloved Liverpool and if not. I will always support our manager and the team, ALWAYS! But I will be broken hearted to see us come down yet another notch! 5 years ago nobody wanted to play Liverpool in Europe, NOBODY! Has time gone by so fast?
FSG saved us, invested in us and I will always be grateful to them as all fans should be, forever. But if they are selling, as it is their right to do so, there should not be even the slightest moan or hard feelings towards them! I am sure, if they were to sell, they would leave us in safe hands!
But selling or not, we need investment in the team now, now before we lose what hope we have of having a decent season in which we challenge.
Again, please fogive my negative post, I am worried for our Liverpool. YNWA

I am sorry but Dalglish spent 100 million on suarez, carroll, Adam Enrique, Henderson, Downing.No return whatso ever?Carroll Adam and the sale of Suarez should recoup 65 million. That leaves Downing Henderson and Enrique who on the market would still make 20 million between them. So Kenny wasted 15 million not a hundred million.But I blame Comolli for the prices paid not Kenny.

The only player albeit a important one that Liverpool have missed out on is Mkhiryian. Papa was enquired about but they felt there was no value in what they were asking for. Toure is quality. Aspas is quality. To many championship managers on here that believe that if you don't spend millions then a player is no good.

Assaidi is poor, has a bad first touch and no footballing brain, to make out like losing him is a bad thing is plain dumb. The transfer window still has a good while to run yet, reserve judgement until it is closed.

Not negative at all in fact a few more need to be honest. Lpool are falling fast and fsg can't make good on the promise to take us back to the top. They have done their best though in all fairness.

It's not a negative post Iranred, it's spot on and real. The situation is very much as you've explained it.

Borini is just woeful, worse than Robbie Keane and that's saying something. Aspas and Alberto run of the mill. What does Joe Allen actually do? Toure's a good signing and his quality, for me, has exposed how poor Agger and Enrique actually are. We are totally disjointed and it's painful to watch.

Ozone

Worried that some of the best owners in football for our future aren't ruining our club by taking huge loans to waste on marquee signings who as value for money assets are not worth the outlay.

But if you want massive spending to cripple a club I am sure Malaga, Zportsmouth and Rangers are looking for fans.

Not that I am sure they want doom and gloom fans.

28 Jul 2013 14:06:17
Thought I, d just say goodbye b4 I jump of the block of flats by ours!
Geeeeeeeeeez 4 f*cks sake, depressed comment or what! Can't ya just wait, until traNsfer window shuts to see who we buy b4 we get suicidal? Ya moan about investment but state that fsg have invested plenty? Brendans building and has stated it will take time, next step in champions league qualification, won't be easy, but its are target, and until next may! We won't know, but how about being a bit more half full then half empty, who knows, ya might wake up one day to the news fsg has sold lfc to some mega rich oil tycoon! Will ya be happy then?
I, M happy in what fsg are immplenting, and when ffp comes in, are academy should start feeding 1st team with regulars! Y. N. W. A

Football - its a funny old game!

Hmmm 4 preseason games won, no goals let in. Can't remember the last time that happened. Maybe save your negativity until at least Xmas when the team has had a chance to prove itself?

First responder

You can sugar coat it all you like mate but kenny WASTED 100 million on rubbish players! Of course he regardless if we make the money back 3 years later or not, at the time it eas all our money and it was wasted instead of buying quality, we shouldve been in top 4 with 100 million spent

And no its not all comollis fault, kenny knew how much was being spent and he was okay with it

But its in the past now just dnt let your loyalties cloud your judgement

28 Jul 2013 14:56:54
I don't care who you blame, Daglish wasted over 130 million on TOSH.

If your so worried, why don't you grow a pair and try stop moaning and slagging off one of the greatest players our club has ever had? Dalglish was not responsible for the prices we paid, he just told Comolli who he wanted. In Suarez, KD spotted a world class talent, from whom we will make a nice profit if we sell him.

Tel 1949

Christ boys I won't be coming to any of your parties soon. I thought we won today and all.

Alfie

Well dalglish was the manager and was okay with us flushing 100 mill

Great player but its not about his past achievements this is about his last reign as LFC manager

Tel 1949. Yes kenny is a legend but take off your rosé tinted glasses. You say it's comolli's fault for over paying yet kenny still wanted to buy downing, Coates, Carroll etc when for the same money far better quality was available. Do not say that kenny spotted a talent in Suarez as he had been mooted for a big move for at least 2 years before we signed him, he wasn't an unknown by any stretch.

Think we need to seperate King Kenny from being a manager and a player, for me he was just about THE best player that I ever saw play, as a manager, well, let's just say that he came in under difficult times, and did his best,
he is and always will be a Legend.
redforever

IranRed, what quality have United and Arsenal bought? Chelsea have signed Schurrle who, while a good player, doesn't really do much to change their overall team I don't think. City has plunked down a lot a money but that's not entirely surprising nor something we can do much about.

Aspas is quality. Alberto is quality, although young and more of potential quality in some respects. Toure is most definitely quality and Mignolet is undeniably quality as are Coutinho and Sturridge. That's 5 new players who are likely to be in the starting 11 frequently in 2 windows- all quality. What more do you want? An all new starting 11 in 1 window?

28 Jul 2013 12:17:37
Apols Eds, a bit of a moan here but am I the only one getting frustrated with fans saying we're not getting enough money put into the club so we can buy players etc. and then see so many posts asking where they can watch the team play online for 'free'.

Pay the money and join LFC Online! For goodness sake, do you not realise that all of these funds contribute to our revenue! £2.99 may seem like a small amount of money but if all of the fans paid to join, well that's a substantial amount of money.

Support the club, that means support financially when you can too!

Rant over

Good point. Maybe people are a bit fed up of paying £50 a ticket, £50 a shirt, £50 a month sky, £5 a pint at anfield though.

MIKEY

£2.99 isn't a small amount to every1

Well said mate.

MUSHROOM

Well said chap!

28 Jul 2013 12:11:25
Has BR been given any transfer funds at all this summer?or is it all down to player sales?it looks like we won't sign another player until Suarez goes and if he stays our spending looks to be done.

We have signed 4 players so far mate.

MIKEY

It appears not and any move we make in the transfer market looks increasingly likely to be dependent on Suarez going. Very sad if the case, expected some money to come directly from the owners as opposed to sales. Cannot realistically hope for top 4 with that sort of approach.

We've also sold carrol, shelvy, for a combined £20 million Mikey, not to mention getting carragher, reina off the wage.
Toure was free, and the other 3 came to £24 million. So really, the above poster is correct

Jak

Jak who did we sign and sell in January? I think shelvey and carroll being sold will almost cover that.

MIKEY

28 Jul 2013 12:01:39
Absolutely in awe of the brilliance of Coutinho!

28 Jul 2013 11:57:22
only a friendly I know, but what a player Coutinho is looking.

28 Jul 2013 11:22:41
If Suarez did a U turn and decided he would stay (miraculously) would you guys forgive him and welcome him back?

You don't welcome someone back who hasn't left, the question is can we trust anything he says anymore .but I believe he would give 100% in every game

No! You can't forgive the unforgivable!

Lyndon

If he scores 15 goals by christmas then i'm pretty sure he will be a hero again.

Does look like no alternative but to stay now.

If I cheated on your wife and then stopped would you forgive me?

Ben Rose, I forgive you. You probably won't forgive yourself though, ever

If you've cheated on my wife then you need to ask for forgiveness from both of us!

my wife says she's never heard of you btw

He's not actually done anything much except run his mouth - not really a lot to forgive if he stays and bangs in goals is there?

Ben when did suarez bang your wife dude heavy thatu want to speak to some one . hope he wraped up don't want a little rubbish growin in your wife now do we ben haha

I'm a little confused there Ben.
How could you do that "on" my wife? :)

What an absolute oload of tosh from the weekend keyboard warriors. Suarez has voiced his concern to the club that he wants top players to help us push on. If we don't buy them, is it so strange that a world class footballer will get a little frustrated at times? didn't our very own Stevie G get tempted a few years back? Personally I hope he stays, he will give 100%. I also hope BR accepts that this season we need to show real improvement and hopefully qualify for the CL, or he may not be the only star to leave.

Tel 1949

Ben, you compare footballers leaving our club to marriage. get a grip, it's more serious than that my friend. :-)

28 Jul 2013 11:17:12
read that barcelona want suarez and will bid him for. what?4m?
wait, its denis suarez from city.not luis.

unnamed poster

28 Jul 2013 11:02:54
My apologies to telling that guy that the match kicked off at 11:00am GMT as it is in fact 11:45 when it kicks off. Flippin Yahoo sport are useless, their not owned by the S*n are they?. Yesterday it said 11am!

Jonny Spandex.

Ok I/yahoo was wrong again, it kicked off before the advertised 11:45. Lesson learnt there then!

Jonny Spandex

28 Jul 2013 06:27:01
Eds is there any chance of arriving a new youngster this summer? Is LFC trialing youngsters this summer? Your answer will be appreciated eds.
An Indian Red {Ed001's Note - they add new youngsters every year, they have to or the academy would end up running out of players in a few years. Or do you mean for the first team squad? In which case, there have been a few trials for potentials, not sure of any about to sign, but it is difficult to find out at youth level.}

28 Jul 2013 10:55:21
For me Bafetimbi Gomis would have been a much better option than Aspas

alan50 {Ed030's Note - Come on!,Actually give him a chance to prove himself first and he as really impressed me so far another example of fickle support. }

Alan 50. Are you real?

Ynwa

28 Jul 2013 11:30:00
Never heard of Gomis. Aspas looks quality though he's fast, hard working and will score goals. Give him a chance.

The seasons not even started. You people make me want to scream.

Ed, the reality is whoever Rodgers sign, there will always be people who will moan, grumble and criticize - not good enough, waste of money etc.

Alan
How much do you think Michu is valued now? How about Benteke? How many here have heard of them? Barely a handful. If we've had signed both in Aug 2012, everyone would have called for Rodgers head, FSG out but look how they turned out! So just BL**DY shut-up and give our new signings a chance!

Btw how well do you know Bafetimbi? Are you so sure that he is better than Aspas, or are you still basing your judgement on youtube clips and your little video games?

Talk about supporting your team - all your negativity really tells me you are the pitts!

Aspas is very good so far. Let's see him how good will be during the season. I believe better option than Gomis

I do understand why some fans are getting 'annoyed' with him. He probably hasn't shown his true quality yet and on top of that has played some poor passes and has not really shown consistency in good link up play yet. However, fans should be more optimistic as it is still early days and really think aspas should be given a chance. He is still adapting to the team.

k_g

Aspas looks decent to me, can see him doing very well with Sturridge.

RedLee

Wonka.

Shmickles

Aspas looks like he works hard, can score and can bring others into play, not bad for 7 mil no?

3 goals in 3 games nuff said, Simonpw

Oh no I meant 3 goals in 4 games nuff said lol darn buttons ha ha, Simonpw

28 Jul 2013 10:41:38
Is it true that Fsg have put us up for sale? {Ed030's Note - No. }

28 Jul 2013 10:40:25
Eds I heard that Soldado would prefer a move to London if he was given the choice. Also heard he doesn't was a move to the Epl. {Ed030's Note - That's a bit contradicting. }

28 Jul 2013 10:37:20
This is the team confirmed to start today:

#LFC team v Thailand: Mignolet, Enrique, Agger, Toure, Johnson, Lucas, Allen, Gerrard, Coutinho, Aspas, Borini.

My guess is this is what Rodgers feels is his first team for start of next season - personally prefer Henderson in for Allen and Suarez for Borini but I won't get my wish!

Y-RED

When Suarez and Assaidi leaves, we will bring in another attacking player. Whether that is a striker, a winger or an attacking midfielder, I don't know.

I think this new player will take the position of Borini in the first team and I am not so convinced Aspas will start ahead of Downing straight away.

Suarez will miss 6 games if he stays. But sturrdge will be instead of borini.

Ynwa

I agree on Henderson but sure we'll see how Allen goes. And Sturridge will come in for Borini!

28 Jul 2013 11:32:20
Its a friendly.

So it's the same side as last season practically then. 7th here we come.

How is that the same side as last season?
Mignolet, toure, aspas are brand new.
Borini, Allen and Lucas all had lengthy injurys at some point.
Coutinho has only been here 6 months.

Hopeless.

MIKEY

Other than Mignolet, Aspas and Toure.

Stupid post.

Although this is only a friendly it is a big hint on the starting line up next season, particularly the defence and midfield as I am sure there will still be movement over the summer with forward players. Very disappointed to see Allen in the midfield over Hendo, last season proved Hendo is a class above Allen. Borini still isn't good enough, although Sturridge will probably replace him when fit. the other major issue is a lack of depth. the start of the new season is only a few weeks away and call me a pessimist, but I think it'll be more of the same next season
G

Your a pessimist G

Tel 1949

28 Jul 2013 10:20:46
Considering that we spent 25m on allen+borini we could have easily got a top class player for that money. Soldado would've been a done deal. {Ed023's Note - If only transfers were as easy as you put it. Sure we got Downing, Henderson, Adam & Carroll all for roughly 80M - we should of just bought Ronaldo.}

28 Jul 2013 10:04:19
I am fed up of the negativity towards the owners. I am happy with how they are running the club. I think they have put money in when needed and are trying to run the club as it should be. I think they have been burnt and have learnt their lessons. They have increased our revenues and have plans to try and develop more. getting back into the Champions league would help significantly.

The club is losing money year on year so they really need to reduce the club's wage bill and other costs.

I am really hoping UEFA will sanction clubs such as Man City, Monaco and PSG as there is no way they can pass the FFP at the moment. Man city have spent nearly 100 million and on the revenues they make and the wages they pay, that is just not possible without the help of a benefactor.

I think the idea of bringing in Young, undervalued players and developing them is the right way to go. it has worked for years by Ajax and now Borussia Dortmund. We just need to sell when it benefits us the most. How much do you think coutinho would be valued now? The same will be the case for Luis Alberto in the future.

By buying these types of players we can increase their value and sell at a profit thus allowing us to go out and buy better younger players and improve the squad. Dortmund have done this with great success recently. They sold Goetze and bought aubameyang and Mkhitaryan. Are they really weaker? Would say their first team is a little but their squad is stronger thus allowing Klopp to rest key players.

Also remember we did this when we were winning trophies in the 1970's and 80's. we very rarely bought ready made players for the first team (Dalglish and Souness) were really the exceptions. We bought players that had the potential and put them in the reserves to learn the Liverpool way. great players like Hansen, Hughes, Rush etc were bought from lower league teams and developed. Liverpool only ever paid a league record for a player ( Dalglish), the rest were bought very cheaply and developed.

Liverpool then sold their players on at significant profits to other teams when it suited the club. Rush to Juventus, Souness to Sampdoria, Keegan to hamburg. We are just returning to that way of doing things.

The club changed direction during the Dalglish era because he was not anywhere near as good as Paisley and the Boot room boys for identifyingnand buying young talent. he went out and bought for the short term (e.g. Speedie).

The club in this era under Robinson ran the club without debt and without loses. They reinvested with any surplus generated. The club was run as a business not a play thing.

We are now going back to this form of sensible management. Finding good young players, being patient with their development and then selling them when we are ready to.

And I am grateful. I really do not want to go back to the spending large sums on so called ready made players like Julian Dicks, Neil Ruddock, Paul Stewart, Paul Ince who come in and get paid a shed load of money and do not do anything for the squad. Recent players include downing, Johnson etc who come in and improve the team on a short term basis but fail to improve and usually decline, thus wasting our investment.

I think it is time to get behind our owners as they are trying to run the club properly. We may not win in the short term but developing good foundations means the long term is much more rosey. Man city, PSG and Monoco are built of shifting sands and their benefactors will not continue to put money in they will get bored of losing money all the time.

Teams like Liverpool, Manchester United will continue to get supported by a large fan base because of their historic significance. Just look at the mix of ages in Indonesia, thailand and Australia. Teams like Man City gain supporters because their fans identify with players rather than the team. When those players move on so do the fans. earl Madrid have found that out when Beckham moved their revenues significantly dropped so they bought Ronaldo. this is the reason that Real Madrid do not want to sell Ronaldo as their revenue will be significantly hit because there are only 2 players of this stature left in the game- messi and Ronaldo.

So it is time to be more positive and look to a brighter future than we have had. And also lay off the Eds, football is about opinion, Nd if somebody disagrees with you, maybe you should listen and learn. Nobody is always correct. Even Bob Paisley bought some bad players and he was the best.

Look buddy what lesson did they learn? Because they bought Carroll for 35 mil? Even the stupidest person on the planet knows it was an awful buy for that kind of money.
For me they run the club well up to a point but they don't take the gamble to show they have ambition. If let's say we sell Suarez and they buy Jackson Martinez it will show intent! It will show ambition. And it will not be even a gamble. But nooo we will buy 2-3 mediocre players around 8mil each because they will "fit" Rodgers system. Well football does not work that way. You need to show at least some muscles here and there. This is why star players want to leave the club, because we don't show ambition.

Pretty much agree with everything you said there but you need to sign your post lad!
In Buck we trust!

Champions league is Liverpool's problem. Todays football is about career building rather than loyalty.
No Champions league is costing in revenue and personel.
If we don't finish in the champions league next season then coutinho coild possibly the next Suarez/ Torres.

Liverpool of old would never start a season with out focusing on winning the league and 2nd or worse would be a fail, a bad season.

Funny how football has changed through the years.

Best post I've read on here in ages. Too many people on here seem to think that if we aren't blowing 100 million in a transfer window then our owners are not doing their job properly. Do people actually realise how badly in debt we were thanks to g&h? Fsg have saved us and are setting us up for long term sustainable growth. Look at what happened to Leeds when they spent beyond their means. {Ed030's Note - We might not be blowing £100m but we are still blowing an awful lot lot money, }

Couldn't agree more

Puzzled Red

Well said, good post.

Good post, although I disagree with what you say about Dalglish and his signings. The King made some very very good signings of players that were not for the short term:-

Peter Beardsley (26)
July 1987
1, 900,000
Newcastle United

John Barnes (23)
June 1987
900,000
Watford

Ray Houghton (25)
October 1987
825,000
Oxford United

John Aldridge (28)
January 1987
750,000
Oxford United

Jamie Redknapp (18)
January 1991
350,000
AFC Bournemouth

Steve McMahon (23)
September 1985
350,000
Aston Villa

Steve Staunton (17)
August 1986
50,000
Dundalk

Jordan Ibe (15)
December 2011
0

Steve McManaman (16)
June/July 1988
0
Trainee

I know Aldridge was 28 when he signed, but I had to include him.

MUSHROOM {Ed001's Note - to be fair, all of those, bar Redknapp, Ibe and MacManaman were at the behest of the great Sir Bob Paisley, who was guiding Dalglish at the time. It was when he left that it all started to go wrong.}

Original poster agree with most parts

Poster 2, You can not buy, using your example, Jackson Martinez for millions of pounds and think he will be an instant success, as you say, football doesn't work that way.
Every signing is a gamble. He may not settle, he may get seriously injured, he may not fit into the style of play, he may have a serious loss of form.

MUSHROOM

28 Jul 2013 11:34:28
IMO with all the money we've already spent if we don't get into the Cpl soon we are going to be in serious trouble.

So every other player MUSHROOM. Your point? He is not a gamble, he is worth that money.

Ed001, I didn't realise that was the case. Thanks for the info, it's always interesting to find out these facts. Cheers

My point is players only end up being worth the money if they are successful. If Carroll had bagged 30+ goals in the first season with us, everyone would have been saying it was money well spent. He didn't, so it become money that was wasted.

MUSHROOM

The most important factor for the club is to be gaining in revenue to compete at the top. for that we must be playing cl football and must have a stadium to house at least 60,000.
Do we have either, and does anyone think we will have either at the end of next season?
G

Eds, I wrote the original post for this, you can probably check on IP address

For poster 2, do you honestly think paying 55 million makes you ambitious? And therefore you will win?

Lets look at Dortmund. Bundasliga champions in successive years, champions league runners up and just trounced the team that won the Champions League:

Their best team of last year cost:
Weidenfeler 0
Pisczek 0
Subotic 4.5
Hummels 4.2
Schmelzer 0
Gundogen 5.5
Bender 1.5
Luba 3.0
Goetze 0
Reus 17.1
Lewandowski 4.75

Compare that to Real Madrid who have shown in your terms Ambition who have spent in the region of 500 million since they last won it. But Dortmund position was due to their 'ambition' in the 90's to keep up with Batern and it forced them to the point of closure. They lost their stadium, nearly went to the second division, et.

Or what about the lack of ambition of porto who do not want to keep Jakson Martinez. Porto who have sold 554 million euros worth of players in the last ten season making 270 million profit, yet they still make it to the later stages of the champions league more often than Man City and have won the champions league more often in the last ten years than Real Madrid, juventus, arsenal, PSG etc.

Ambition is about Long term as well as short term and for too long Liverpool only looked at the short term fixes rather than the long term. Trying to put a team together to win the league. We are now trying to play catch up. Manchester United (forget about the leverage buyout) and Arsenal have done it correctly.Liverpool missed the boat.

The problems started under Moore and party and we have Ben playing catch up ever since. Benitez started the longer term planning and FSG are continuing this.

So let's no pretend that buying a 55 million quid striker is always going to bring you success. arsenal may do it with Suarez but who really thinks they can win anything bar a cup?

We finished 7th last season so I don't imagine by breaking even with our spending that we will magically be transformed into a team challenging for 4th. We are still lacking in some key poisitions and everything now seems dependent on us selling our star player. I hope I am wrong but is 4th place even possible given the teams around us and the strengthening they are doing? Look at spurs, arguably our closest rival for 4th spot along with Arsenal. There squad is already better and they are strengthening + looking to keep Bale. We've strengthened our squad but look to be weakening our fist team, Champions League is unrealistic and the sad part is Rodgers will be the one taking the flack when we don't qualify. I like the signings we've made but they are not enough and when we lose Suarez I fear our lack of European football will prevent us buying someone of similar quality to replace him. That is were we will really falter. This season is going to be gruelling, if we make the Europa League this season i'll be happy.

Mushroom, spot on mate.

No-one cares what United have spent on loads of their players (flops included), because of their success rate regardless.

28 Jul 2013 09:11:57
What are the fans and Eds opinion on Praet. Not seen too much oh him myself.

T T

He is a kid, but very talented. The closest player that he reminds me of is, interestingly, Christian Eriksen.

28 Jul 2013 07:19:43
We all have players who we like and dislike, but whilst they wear a red shirt let's give them are full support. True fans don't publicly slate there own players. I know there are certain players who are not quite good enough in the squad at the moment, but I will not slate them publicly. It takes time to build a quality squad and it helps no one by slagging them off. I can't wait for the season to start!
D.Agger.

Could not agree more mate. Cringe every time I see phrases like deadwood, or should be playing in the championship, and the same people sign off with YNWA - maybe it only applies to our world class players.
Paul Mc

As if Dagger would actually post on this site! Although I do agree with the point being made, I used to think igor biscan was amazing, he he!

I can not support suarez no matter how good he is.
Id rather sing spearings name who will always have my support long as he is wearing red!

28 Jul 2013 08:37:34
As much as I want suarez to leave, we must not be potrayed as a small club like the media are spinning us to be, they make it sound like we don't have a choice and must accept arsenal's next disrespectul bid.Liverpool must stand firm on the 50mil even with a transfer request from suarez. 35m, 40m now 42m next?we got 50mil with a transfer request from torres, I expect more money from suarez deal.Arsenal fans are being toyed with, same with higuain now suarez. they put in bids below the asking price just to say yeah we put in a bid but it was rejected

To be fair 34mil for Higuain is scandalous, no wonder Madrid can splash the cash when they mug clubs like that, think Arsenal dodged a bullet and now look to be chasing a better player worth a massive outlay - bad times for us, just hope we choose not to sell to any premiership rival, but be a strong statement of intent.

28 Jul 2013 04:51:27
Hi, first time poster, long term reader.
I am going to mention some things I have read about and come to terms with with our club.
First off I love the work Rodgers is doing, the younger managers in the prem seem to know how to play with excitement. Second I think the owners want to create a Dortmund/Arsenal type of team with a revolving door of promising youngsters being sold for mass amounts of cash.
This may be a good thing in the long run as Arsenal have showed, being able to bid over 40 mill for a player is going in to serious territory. As for Dortmund they are still in the early stages of this and are loosing top players every year to rivals. What I am getting at is as a club you don't want to sell to rivals, but when a rival makes an audatious bid you have to seriously consider it. Yes it may make them stronger than us, but also it can be reversed and we can be the stronger ones, if we invest wisely.
I think if Suarez is sold FSG will not re-invest all the money on players as they have been loosing money for a long time, what I do think they will do is get Rodgers to scale the globe for another young prodigy who has the ability already to get us say 15 goals this season. But next season will get us 20 goals and his value will rise and we will listen to offers for him.
FSG are not rich and want to make money like any business, so i'm afraid at this time this is what will happen for a while. But if it goes well we will be able to play with the big boys again and it will be well earned.

YNWA is our motto and I am so glad to support a club with such a great history and the best fans in the world.

28 Jul 2013 00:08:31
Are we looking at Dennis praet? And could he be used in a deal with assiadi? Looks a very good player and only 19 {Ed002's Note - RTP.}