Liverpool Banter Archive February 28 2016
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28 Feb 2016 22:33:46
Think people need to realise this is man city we were up against quality through the team and bench we did well to get to the final we played our hearts out and should be proud of the players and manager not slate them. We gave one hell of a fight to City and will again on wednesday simple as that. This is not klopps team we need to let him assemble his team and if things don't go right then judge him! The only thing i did think was a mistake was the penalty takers no hendo milner but other than that i am proud to be a red and everyone else should be! We will be back again.
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29 Feb 2016 00:37:17
No excuse after such a long rest with all key players back.
29 Feb 2016 01:13:36
Mate we aren't judging klopp so much just as in awe of the characteristics, or rather lack of, of the players in the squad.
We effectively scraped our way through to the final anyway, can't say we had any exceptionally hard draws along the way and with the exception of southampton, played pretty rubbish in all the ties, identical in which we played a lot of the final today.
Playing your heart out is alright but having a goalie who chucks the ball in his own net and captains and vice captains who shy away from penalty shootouts is not. I just don't believe that game was simply a matter of saying unlucky, we tried our best. It was there for the taking, regardless of opposition, its 11 men versus another 11 men. And in the process of losing, almost every aspect of what is wrong with our current team was shown up in some way. I wouldn't normally be so bitter but i do think that is the case.
28 Feb 2016 22:22:08
Players not good enough for LFC and ready to be offloaded
Benteke, Milner, Henderson, Moreno, Lallana, Sakho.
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28 Feb 2016 22:43:38
Moreno ya but not the rest Benteke will go to rise funds. lallana Milner and hendo play the stayle kloop loves and sakho should be are captain.
28 Feb 2016 23:50:33
There the right style maybe but so they have the quality?
28 Feb 2016 23:51:54
Making a list seems a bit bitter.
I agree with all but hendo and sakho. I think hendo should have captaincy given to lucas and if he reacts well to it then we know he can be captain material and is good enough. Sakho is just in poor form.
28 Feb 2016 23:59:38
for me firminho and Sturridge let the attack down part from the goal coutinho was really quite. Lallana and Orige really change the game .
29 Feb 2016 00:03:24
Completely agree with the list. Average players.
29 Feb 2016 00:28:42
Sturridge is just coming back from injury and is struggling to get confidence playing in a team that is very much worse than the one he was consistently playing in 2 seasons ago.
As for firmino, the suarez comparisons continue to baffle me. He really was awful today but i've seen similar performances from him throughout the campaign. 6 goals makes him the next suarez though, what could i be missing?
29 Feb 2016 00:37:51
Henderson Milner and Mignolet can go.
29 Feb 2016 00:52:20
Another knee jerk post from a frustrated fan. Nothing to see here, IMO.
29 Feb 2016 01:27:07
Could we please stop the knee jerk reactions. Our key players are all just coming back from injury. We need time to set up a system and a culture.
28 Feb 2016 22:09:55
the pens should have been retaken, anyway what this will do is show up the players that are not good enough, the game should show klopp where we need strengthening on that note slaven bilic the west ham manager has shown every other manager that there are some gems out there to sign look at Payet, and some other players he has brought and i'm sure klopp will know of some players that he can sign that have not come house hold names yet, so i can't wait till the summer transfer window.
i think we need a more solid spine to our team imo it would only take 3 players to make our squad a really good one, i maybe wrong but i doubt it but i do expect klopp will bring in a player or 2 that no one has heard of or that they are not that well known, not any big names like Reus.
we will have to wait and see but if Bilic can do it so can klopp, even Bellemy said today that Mark Noble said to him that with the new players at west ham that the training has gone up a level and we can see how much west ham have improved if you look at were they are in the table because the table does not lie not many expected west ham to be were they are in the table and to be fair they could end up playing champs league if they get lucky the same goes for leicester.
i don't know if they will win it but the players they have got them into that position and they will end up in the top 4 at least i heard that they were a 1000-1 to qualify for champs league would have loved that bet, but all i'm trying to say is that there are better players out there than we have now and if we get the right ones then we can achieve something good.
i won't judge klopp this season with the players he has but to be where we are shows how well he has done when you look at the difference to todays squads, plus it shows how bad BR bought if we would have won today it would have plastered over the cracks in our squad and then some players that need to go might have stayed and we would have struggled next season as well.
im not a fan of lucas and i'm a big critic of his but today he was my M.O.T.M. credit where credit is due, and one way to look at the game without our gk mistake we might have won the game with Couths goal.
Next season we will have D. Ings back and the other kid who plays in defence to come back and if Ings picks up where he left off then he will be a very good addition plus there's a few very good kids yet to make the break through so our future does look good.
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29 Feb 2016 00:39:10
Its a shame FSG choose klopp ratyer slaven bilic. Bilic is such a under rated manager.
29 Feb 2016 02:07:28
serious? our manger of 6 months who was highly sought after and now you'd rather bilic because he's had a good run in the league with a pre-season and some players of his choosing? get a grip. nobody said this would be an easy fix so i'm not quite sure why people think it is.
28 Feb 2016 22:00:47
Any particular reason my post from earlier wasnt posted?
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28 Feb 2016 21:58:57
I'm sorry but during the game I asked my mate if he thought hendo was captain material. We both thought the same. No way. He may be a nice lad but he's just not good enough.
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28 Feb 2016 22:34:48
Who is good enough for you Roller?
28 Feb 2016 22:50:00
None of them at the moment fano.
29 Feb 2016 00:41:29
Simply not good enuf. Henderson should be sold. Preferably to china club for 40mil pounds. We get xhaka or gundongan or Vidal.
28 Feb 2016 21:36:07
How does klopp continue to escape blame? The penalty shootout was a joke, Milner our main penalty taker and vice captain doesn't take one, Henderson our captain and the same person that made a scene like a spoiled child when balotelli wouldn't let him take a pen last year was nowhere to be seen.
can our strikers not take penalties? Surely klopp has some say in who takes the pens, klopps decisions lately have been baffling to say the least, the same record as Roy hodgson and let's be honest Roy didn't get a chance to make the squad his own either, at least Brenda tried different things, klopp does the same things over and over and expects a different result, it's time he and some of his spineless players be held accountable for results.
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28 Feb 2016 22:23:40
Milner was up 5th, I'm sure you'd have castigated him had he taken a pen and missed though.
28 Feb 2016 22:29:34
Get your point about the pens as Milner and hendo should have taken 1. As for Hodgson, he bought Poulsen and konchesky. Enough said.
28 Feb 2016 22:42:13
No I wouldn't, players miss penalties it's part of the game, poor tactics though, the best penalty takers should be up before it's too late.
28 Feb 2016 22:59:36
Who says Hendo is a good penalty taker? Lucas and Lallana both scored against Stoke.
28 Feb 2016 23:21:06
Jesus this is scraping the barrell looking for things to complain about. Anyone that had the balls to take a pen deserves respect. Those players put themselves forward and had all scored pens previously so i have no problem with the takers. Milner would have taken the fifth. To moan about klopp is ridiculous you can't make a player take a pen if he's not up for it. So your question about strikers and hendo should be a question of their guts and not to vilify the ones who stepped up for us.
29 Feb 2016 01:00:51
Spot on, cmac! Nothing but petulant knee jerk reactions to a game we lost on penalties vs a team that was better than us on paper but were so scared they would get a thumping again that they played deep and only caused us problems on the counter after we gifted them the first goal. City have a better team and better players than us but you wouldn't have known it in their first half where the game was pretty even but of course, someone always has to take the blame when we lose, even on penalties. No credit given to the players and manager for battling and going down swinging to a lottery type defeat. If a player doesn't feel like taking a pen, you can't make him. If a player is courageous enuff to take one, it means he feels he can score. No wonder Ed02 says we are the worst fans at backing our own players and manager. Pathetic!
29 Feb 2016 02:11:33
well said redohio, i'm embarrassed by some of the comments on here about basically getting rid of half the team and the manager because we lost in the final. if we stuff city in the next game will the city fans ask for half their team to be sold?
29 Feb 2016 04:32:28
so no credit to willy cabellero whatsoever? real cheap man bashing our own mate. didn't he saved those. only coutinho hit it badly rest were well saved.
29 Feb 2016 04:35:05
Not Klopp's fault - you ask players who wants a pen and go with that. Because Origi and Henderson didn't want it reflects on their characters rather than Klopp's.
28 Feb 2016 21:18:20
When I heard the finals would be on the 28th of Feb, I prayed Liverpool ill be in the final. When Liverpool reached the finals, I thought this would be the perfect birthday gift for me (my birthday was today) . But, I now realised that win, lose, or draw its more about seeing my team play. That's really what its all about. You support a team because you enjoy watching them play. And today I got to see 120 minutes of my team play The Beautiful Game. I got to see them work for an equaliser. I got to celebrate when they did. They gave me the gift of The Beautiful Game. Thank you Liverpool Football Club. Thank you Jurgen Klopp, that smile on your face before the shoot out started, made us realise what its all about. Seeing/ playing the game we love.
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28 Feb 2016 21:54:05
Absolutely brilliant. Well said. no negativity. No slaggin players off and who we should get rid of and who we buy etc etc. It's the beautiful game. some u win, some u lose.
29 Feb 2016 02:15:40
Awesome post, Roller! Such a breath of fresh air to hear a fan be happy for his team win, lose or draw, lauding the mental toughness and the fighting spirit shown by his players to not give up and not quit. A sea change from some of the begat and pathetically shameful comments I've been reading, blaming players and coaches for us losing a game on PENALTIES, of all things.
28 Feb 2016 20:06:32
Will get slated for this but would be happy to see Henderson leave in the summer. Don't see what he brings to the team on a consistent basis.
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28 Feb 2016 21:30:31
Average at best.
28 Feb 2016 22:00:18
He's also been injured but never quits. He's not a top quality midfielder but he's by no means an issue -- and when healthy brings more.
Sitting 9th in the table there are places to point fingers, but this seems a reach.
28 Feb 2016 22:02:55
Couldn't agree more. He's had one consistent season.
28 Feb 2016 22:03:03
What a joke. Who do you support? He was absolute quality the passed two years, and has struggled with injury this year, and is out of form, so now we sell him? Any game you watch he pours his heart into it and does everything he can to keep the team pushing forward. Hendo and Lucas are the heart of this team with Gerrard gone. What does a player need to do in your eyes to deserve not to be sold?
28 Feb 2016 22:03:52
Struggling after coming back from injury. Give him time.
I think he showed the potential to step up and become a great player for us, like a young gerrard.
However this season has been blighted with injury and i'm not sure he really is captain material. Lucas, as he proved today, is. He needs to step up and stop missing sitters.
28 Feb 2016 22:06:12
Are you kidding me. He ran his heart out today and was top class breaking up play.
28 Feb 2016 22:34:06
Do any of our other players did anything positive consistently this season? Let's leave Lucas aside, although he had some poor games as well. But any of our other 11 has been consistently good? No one for me sorry. Not Milner, not Can, not Lallana, not Firmino, not Clyne or Moreno Sacko had some really poor games, Mings is Mings. Sturridge was poor the last two games, Origi had two good games. Even Couts had his ups and downs. Toure was maybe the only one who wasn;t really poor in any game. All the rest average. At hi sbest Henderson at least can give a good pass.
28 Feb 2016 22:47:51
If people don't see what the like of hendo and Milner and can do for the team I will tell u there all hard workers and do the dirty side of the game .
28 Feb 2016 23:38:27
I think more of the problem is that between hendo, can, allen, milner and milner when he plays there is that they are all too similar and by and large play similar roles when together on the pitch.
28 Feb 2016 23:52:32
I said before I think his future lies as more defensive Player.
29 Feb 2016 00:41:29
Some interesting points and the is no doubting Hendo's stamina etc. But. He does lack the creativity and goals needed for our key/ main man in the centre of the park.
29 Feb 2016 02:24:46
Are there manc or bitter blue trolls infesting these boards today, slating players like it was open season or do we truly have some of the most negative fans on the planet? So now it's Hendo's turn to get slated while knowing full well that he's either carrying an injury or is not fully fit but if ace his all for the team? So tell me, if Hendo had been a top player or had Studge been fit and sharp, would that have prevented Mingo from committing the howler that put us behind the eight ball? Would that have suddenly made our penalty takers score their penalties? Didn't think so. Keep slating your own players who are shattered mentally and physically from losing a game via the lottery and see if that helps them.
28 Feb 2016 20:03:52
Disappointment aside, I thought Lucas was immense today and should probably continue as CB until the end of the season. Midfield lacking Can needs a full overhaul in my opinion. Sturridge looked disinterested at times so was confused to see him upset at the end. Lallana who I'm not a big fan seemed to make an effort when coming on and maybe he realises he's playing for his future. Some disappointing performances today, benteke all but gone. Big summer coming up yet again.
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29 Feb 2016 02:27:45
Lucas showed that you don't need to be big and strong to be an effective CB. He's was immense and I thought he dealt with Aguero without even committing rash challenges. Maybe Skrtel and Lovren can learn a thing or two from a player who's not even a CB, showing them up for the average CB's they are.
28 Feb 2016 20:58:49
If truth be told we were lucky to get to penalties . My only gripe and i'm not having a go at him is that I feel your Captain should step forward to take a penalty.
Best thing is Wednesday gives us a chance to put them out of the title race.
The only trend that Jurgen has learnt this season is that we continually concede SOFT goals another one today which totally altered the Dynamic of the game.
Have total faith in Jurgen . Just have to wait till he rebuilds but it won't be overnight will take a couple of seasons.
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29 Feb 2016 00:06:08
Maybe he was down for the 5th, like Gerrard was in Istanbul 2005? It's too easy to moan about who did or didn't take penalties, but those that did take them, I had full confidence in scoring them!
28 Feb 2016 20:57:57
I feel aweful. Don't want to fault the lads, we were in the game throughout and had our chances. Coutinho is perhaps the most important player in the squad and that equalizer gives me hope.
Who did what wrong is a discussion for tomorrow. Today let us support the team!
YNWA.
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28 Feb 2016 20:57:09
Just wanted to say that I thought the effort was tremendous today and regardless of whether everyone thinks certain players are good enough or not, they all gave their best and we pushed an amazing squad and opponents to the limit. I for one thought Lucas was immense.
Now, do we need to improve to truly compete over the course of a season, of course the answer is yes. But let's not ridicule the great efforts of the team today because of that. Let's simply look forward to the summer and a full pre-season with Klopp in charge and see what next season brings us. I for one am optimistic for the future and hope that we all get behind the club, manager and team from now on.
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28 Feb 2016 22:07:59
Lucas was our Man of the Match.
28 Feb 2016 20:54:56
Well, what can you do? City deserved over the period of the game. I think Liverpool played ok, maybe lacked a cutting edge up front, not a lot a clear chances over the 90 mins. Milner played quite well at left back and Lucas won nearly every header, not bad for a 5' 10' player! Origi was quite sharp when he came on. Disapointing that we couldn't secure a Europa spot early but you can't argue too much that City should have won. Liverpool to win 3-1 midweek! Revenge is sweet.
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28 Feb 2016 20:50:04
Great character shown today and sad for the team and manager etc.
My only puzzlement is why Milner and Henderson didn't take penalties and also our strikers. No chritisism just made me curious.
Hopefully next year will be a good year but man 'o man it's going to be tough. So many top teams with money now and can now through Blues into mix.
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28 Feb 2016 21:02:43
Did Lucas, Coutinho and Lallana not score their penalties in a previous shootout? What is the issue?
28 Feb 2016 22:00:12
No issue as already stated. I thought they all did well and fought hard today. Milner is our designated penalty taker and Hendo the deputy so thought it strange they weren't in the first to take them.
All water under bridge now and I hope they all pick themselves up and dust off as lots of character shown today.
28 Feb 2016 22:07:50
I would 100% expect that Milner was penalty number 5, usually a big pressure penalty.
Henderson on the other hand fought with Balotelli last season to take a penalty as he was the club penalty taker. Extremely disappointing that he did not step up before both Lallana and Coutinho.
Fair play to the lads for putting themselves forward but is Henderson not supposed to be a proven penalty taker?
I was shocked when Lallana stepped forward. The main thing he's lacked since coming to us is conviction so I didn't think he'd have the confidence to slot it home.
28 Feb 2016 22:09:12
Milner should be first up in my opinion.
28 Feb 2016 20:47:22
Nothing really positive to say on today other than its a pleasure to have lucas in our squad and team. Showed true heart and quailty.
It's a long road ahead.
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29 Feb 2016 02:32:32
Really Big Al? Nothing positive to say after our boys fought hard and came back in a game where Mingo put them behind the eight ball with that howler? Wow!
28 Feb 2016 20:37:26
Having to use a sub so early on in a game like this left it more difficult for Klopp today, in terms of changes he could then make to effect the game. For all the effort of Can, Milner and Hendo, the type of quick pass forward to feed Sturridge runs, eludes them all. We are missing that type of player. Klopp seems to have picked what he sees as his best team from what he has available - while we as supporters may question moreno etc, a final may not have been the time to throw the likes of Brad Smith in. There is enough league games to give these lads experience. Unfortunately, united seem to be showing some form, I would dearly love to knock them out of the Europa league.
Like another poster said, gutted for young kids supporting our boys. I had a 7 and 9 year old who were inconsolable. I hope the summer improves our starting 11.
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28 Feb 2016 20:34:39
No complaints. Better team on the day won. Just another game that highlights which players shouldn't be here come August. Time to pick ourselves up, dust ourselves down and come again. Onwards red men.
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28 Feb 2016 23:29:01
I disagree 100%. They were not the better team.
I obviously saw a different game than you.
29 Feb 2016 02:39:47
Spot on, KBL. They were so scared of us after the annihilation at the Etihad that they played THREE potential DM's in Fernando, Fernandinho and Toure. It was an even game till Mingo threw them a life line after which they created chances on the counter which happens when you're chasing the game. Watch the game again and you'll see.
28 Feb 2016 20:16:04
Hope Sturridge is ok, that his legs didn't get yet another setback.
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28 Feb 2016 20:13:38
People need to get a grip. The ones to feel sorry for are the kids 5-25 years old. My 10 year old is gutted and can't even face food.
All he keeps saying is it's not fair, when mum and dad were young Liverpool won everything.
Have faith I say to my little champ who just wants to win, Her Klopp will turn us around. he inherited a sub standard squad and his treatment of Benteke tells me he knows what he's doing. I'm proud of our boys today we fought hard against a superior squad. YNWA.
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28 Feb 2016 20:20:51
Just hope we get a good fee for Benteke. I do feel for the big guy.
28 Feb 2016 20:44:06
I know mate it just wasn't the right move for him. I'm not a Mignolet fan by any stretch but he redeemed himself with some excellent saves. Their pens were side netting so he had no chance, Lucas was immense so all his critics take note, he's 100% LFC through and through.
Thought Moreno and Milner were shocking (Milner improved at left back though) . Henderson and Can try hard but lack the guile and skill, Firminio (who has guile and skill was very poor), Sturridge started brightly but became a passenger from 70 minutes on.
Bottom line they have better players yet we took them all the way, thought we had a pen 1st half on Moreno and them one 2nd Moreno on Aguero (although both made a meal of the challenges) .
Hope we win Wednesday as that will kill their title challenge and good luck Leicester City!
29 Feb 2016 02:41:48
Exactly, Alexi. I thought the Moreno incident was more a penalty than the Aguero one which was a dive.
28 Feb 2016 20:04:51
Well done team, they played well. Their was intent but we lacked quality in the final third. Sturridge didn't get much service but he also lacked sharpness.
The front 3 was left isolated by our Midfield. Will Henderson ever reach the same form that was before his injury?
Mignolet is an Enigma. He gives up foolish goals but makes classy saves on the other hand specially the one on one with Aguero. There is too much inconsistency in the goal keeping department. Eds, could you kindly shed some light on our Goalkeeping coach?
Also, I think Moreno's day are numbered after his display today.
Still, Kudos to the lads, bring on United! YNWA!
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28 Feb 2016 20:51:17
I think in big games you need big players mate, players that will be effective and make the right decisions. Sturridge surrounded showed a quick bit of skill and pace, played an excellent pass to milner and opened up the space in the final third but the problem we currently have is that. The balls fall to feet of players who simply don't have the quailty needed.
28 Feb 2016 22:10:39
Shayaan our goalkeeper coach is a lovely bloke but played for Tranmere Rovers so has no top level experience. What more do you need to know mate? I heard Pepe Reina was bored and didn't respect him so this has been going on a long time.
28 Feb 2016 19:48:02
Gutted for the result, we had our chances but we didn't take them, story of us for a long time. I thought overall we defended very well, and despite being Mignolet's fault for the first goal, but he did keep us in it in extra time. There wasnt enough from Midfield today, I thought our front 3 were pretty isolated, Sturridge looked not so sharp. I don't think you can blame the penatly takers too much, the saves were good, I thought Mignolet could have done better with 2 of the penalties. I couldn't understand why Origi and Sturridge wasnt taking penalties.
I felt we were there hoping to get a win rather than believing we could win like we di in past finals, even the fans were very quiet, was a different fanbase that was even in the Cardiff final a few years ago. I don't think will be the last time we will be in a final under Klopp though. IO just hope it won't affect us too abd for the rest of the season, we have a mouth watering europa league tie to look forward to. Feel bad for the lads, but a penalty shootout is a lottery at the end of the day, sadly today wasnt our day.
YNWA lads. We feel your pain right now. let's stop City winning the league on Wednesday now.
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28 Feb 2016 19:56:27
I'm not even slightly proud I thought they were bloody awful.
28 Feb 2016 20:17:45
Then hem b win lose draw together.
28 Feb 2016 20:29:00
Hem as Del Boy would say you 'plonker'
28 Feb 2016 21:10:38
I never said I was proud of them, they were pretty bad in all areas, I can't see Mignolet or Moreno lasting past the summer to be honest. You have to look at the goals we concede, even going back to our title push, the goals can't be all the defence problem, some are ofcourse. I think back to when we had Reina at his peak, and yes while we had Carra who was immense, but our other defenders looked amazing too and we regularly got the golden glove. I think a good team and team confidence starts with the keeper. I think the defence don't trust Mignolet and maybe Mignolet trusts the defence. Or else the issue lays with the defence and goalkeeping coaches? Klopp will have his work cut out for him in the summer.
28 Feb 2016 19:46:25
On a side note, be interesting to see who is picked for the city league game. Can't see too many of those who got 120 playing. I reckon flanno, sakho, Lucas, Moreno back four, maybe origi up top, firmino off him then I don't know who!
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28 Feb 2016 19:41:48
Fair play to city. can't say we didn't give it a good go. A couple of good chances for big divock but wasnt meant to be. don't think sturridge offered anything today would have liked to see benteke used at sum point, think it showed what klopp thinks of him! Roll on next season. YNWA C'MON YOU RED MEN.
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28 Feb 2016 19:49:26
city deserved it, our players had no clue what they were doing. just showed that we are not at the level of champions.
nothing much to look forward to actually.
28 Feb 2016 20:15:22
What do you mean we had no clue what we were doing. City parked the bus and played on the counter all game because they were scared of us pressing them and blasting them like we did at the Etihad. In case you haven't noticed, City have a much better team than we do and the thumping at the Etihad won't change that. We may not have played well all round nor created enuff chances but we defended well, got stuck in and fought till the very end. I can accept a loss if you give your all which is exactly what we did. Your post is shameful, Lfcsa.
28 Feb 2016 20:18:24
Origi should have been on from the start. He was much more of a threat and harder for the City defence to handle than Sturridge I'm afraid.
Could have brought Sturridge on for the last 20 mins.
He was poor today.
28 Feb 2016 19:36:29
Gutted! That's about it.
City were better team, but can't fault the effort, especially the first half of extra time we pressed hard.
Not sure why Milner or hendo didn't step up earlier, I'm sure one was 5th taker, but they're our two with penalty experience for us.
Sturridge looked dead on his feet at the end, I hope it's just tiredness, he was on his own a lot today, but I was impressed with his feet. Gave it away a bit much and didn't make some runs I thought he might, but you can see his quality.
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28 Feb 2016 20:20:00
Our boys hung in there, kept fighting and didn't quit. City are a better team but they IMO, sat back a lot especially in the first half because they were scared we were going to press them high and if they lost the ball, they were toast. After we conceded, they played on the counter all game because we were chasing the game. They never really cut us open via slick passing or anything. All in all, great effort by our boys.
28 Feb 2016 21:00:13
"They never really cut us open" Your having a laugh! On another day Aguero would have had a hat trick and Sterling would have had 2, ( his finishing is no better than when he played for us) . Don't get me wrong, we also had chances but to say they didn't cut us open on times is just wrong.
29 Feb 2016 02:46:24
They did not cut us open, more no. Creating chances on the counter where gaps open due to us chasing the game does not qualify as being cut open, my friend.
28 Feb 2016 19:31:25
Perhaps the Eds will enlighten me. I have always understood that a GK has to stay on their line during the run up. They can move laterally but may not step forward before the ball is struck. Sour grapes, possibly, and we had some woeful penalties, but Willy is clearly hopping forward on more than one occasion.
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28 Feb 2016 19:38:25
Migs may well have been doing it too, to be fair. However, since they scored it would not be called back. However, there is an official there to do a job, which is not being done. Not a conspiracy, but a little disappointing.
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28 Feb 2016 19:43:33
They were the better team we nearly stole it but didn't get over it.
28 Feb 2016 19:44:41
Just like dudek did.
28 Feb 2016 20:09:37
Or you could just let it not go to penaltiesif you really wanted to win that badly.
28 Feb 2016 19:29:39
I hate to say it but if we're honest, Man City deserved to win, they were the better team. The club just needs to be surgical in their changes during the summer to contend next season instead of mass overhauls like the past two.
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28 Feb 2016 19:57:41
How were they the better team when they failed to take their chances?
Aguero and Sterling both missed 1 on 1's with Mignolet. Had Mignolet saved the first goal, it would have been an entirely different match!
28 Feb 2016 20:24:30
They weren't the better team. Mingo gifted them the goal while they had created next to nothing bar the long punt to Aguero that Mingo tipped on the post. From there, they had chances on the counter which will happen because you're chasing the game hence, you leave gaps in defence. They never outplayed us nor did anything special before their goal so NO, they weren't better than us. They won on pens. It happens so we move on.
28 Feb 2016 20:54:19
I'll back u up on this one adz. Everyone knows every keeper does it but occasionally, just occasionally it's done so obviously it should be pulled up and I would say that would apply to the coutinho pen. It may very well have been saved had it been re-taken who knows. The ref appears to have a lengthy chat with the keepers before the shootout, if they're going to bother doing that they should pull up the ridiculously obvious ones. It's no conspiracy and maybe made not a blind bit of difference, but that one should have been re-taken.
28 Feb 2016 19:24:38
Time to forget about the final and concentrate the run in until our season finishes. I wonder how JK rates our current squad against Dortmund when he took over. At least we are still in Europe and if we don't qualify for next season we'll have a lighter fixture list but I can't see anything other than a Pep Guardiola title win.
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28 Feb 2016 19:35:17
Defeatist 😩
We are going to win the Europa, we will be in the champions league next season and to give up on next season's title with a third of this season left is breathtakingly poor.
28 Feb 2016 19:40:32
The squad is weak as hell
Don't be ridiculous the club needs way more quality to even catch up to the top four let alone win leagues an European cups
Be realistic for once!
28 Feb 2016 19:55:44
why would anyone have Champions league hopes for this team when they play so poor? is public humiliation what they are looking for?
if you don't have the quality to finish in the top 4 then you don't deserve to be in the Champions league.
28 Feb 2016 18:22:03
Now u Liverpool fans are singing
Sing louder.
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28 Feb 2016 18:10:28
I am a liverpool fan for at least 30 years and I'll be honest I can't afford to pay for tickets to go and watch a game because I have 4 kids to provide for but you people who call yourselves liverpool fans and have the privelige to go to Wembley and watch our team in a final you should be ashamed because your support is shocking I'm am amazed at how poor your support is I went to the 2005 game against Chelsea at anfirld and we scared them off the pitch you lot are a joke and you should be ashamed of yourselves all you fans who post on here and across the world let me spell this out for you
This is what is expected
Noise and intimidation - make the opposition feel like if they play good they will be shot
Football - play like you are going to be shot of you don't play well
Wake up or go because this is not liverpool and I am sick and tired of being a by stander while fake Liverpool fans ruin my club.
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28 Feb 2016 21:11:02
Ta a fan who was at the game I'm going to sat We did sing there was a decent section of us going all game and it was much better than the Villa game last season at Wembley which I was also at. If you don't go then don't complain.
The atmosphere has died at Anfield since 2005 but there are always some people giving their all in support.
28 Feb 2016 22:33:57
All I could hear was liverpool fans singing. I thought they were superb.
28 Feb 2016 18:03:46
Solid if unspectacular just about covers it. If you replace Can or Lucas for Skrtel then it's our strongest 11. Man City would probably have De Bruyne in their 11 so baring in mind that it's our best availible against theirs and there aren't many missing we have done well. But when you set up to stop the other team from scoring then conceed a soft goal you have big problems. Seems very flat up top. No spark.
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28 Feb 2016 20:26:18
Lucas is better than Skrtel and he's not even a CB.
28 Feb 2016 17:33:23
In today's game that is a stone wall penalty.
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28 Feb 2016 16:18:59
Where are skrtel and Lovren, wasn't Lovren back not too long ago? I am not feeling the centre back pairing at all. Especially with hendo and can in front of them, hendo can't do everything and is off form atm and I honestly have no faith in can. I feel like aguero, silva and maybe even sterling will run riot. If they get an early goal we will get desperate and start forcing the issue and that will play into their hands. I hope everything I have just said is wrong but I don't know, not feeling optimistic today.
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28 Feb 2016 19:37:45
He was ill midweek.
28 Feb 2016 15:44:17
Is Ibe injured?
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28 Feb 2016 16:03:52
Was thinking the same.
28 Feb 2016 15:20:40
Lucas at the back again, organises a lot better than the others. Other than that the team we all expected, come on boys!
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28 Feb 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Liverpool match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
Liverpool Live Chat page
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28 Feb 2016 14:38:08
Looking for a bit of help guys!
I'm in Australia and just found out to my horror that the game isn't on any of the usual channels (ESPN, fox sports 1,2,3 etc. ) . Can probably get a dodgy stream BUT anyone in Oz got any advice or can help please?
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28 Feb 2016 15:06:31
Get to your casino or stream it through feed2all or wiziwig.
28 Feb 2016 16:02:23
loathe to do it but got it through beinsport $40 - ouch! Divorce match this one - wife's city! Come on redmen!
28 Feb 2016 16:19:53
Come on Redmen. you can do it !
28 Feb 2016 14:20:26
Anybody know of any streams for todays match android or xbox one any help would be appreciated.
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28 Feb 2016 14:26:53
Get kodi downloaded and use sportsdevil loads of streams on there.
28 Feb 2016 15:08:42
Modbro is the best android app around and it's only available on their website not google play it has all the channels you need and the quality is always top notch.
28 Feb 2016 15:50:10
Mobdro is awesome thank you very much.
28 Feb 2016 14:03:37
Off to Wembley now I'm completely convinced we will win this come on boys! YNWA.
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28 Feb 2016 13:10:37
Anybody else think that if lallana was fit today Sturridge would be on the bench?
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28 Feb 2016 12:21:57
Origi Origi de de der der der to the Sweeney music.
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28 Feb 2016 11:37:28
So the big day is here. I think it will come down to who handles the front three from each team better. Assuming they all start it will be a case of will City defend better against Sturridge, Firmino and Coutinho or will Liverpool defend better against Agureo, Silva and Sterling. On paper City have better defenders but they did in the leaugue game in October and that was slightly one sided! . Looking forward to this.
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28 Feb 2016 12:14:25
I mean I wouldn't mind ward starting 😕. I fear for our back line if our midfield is overpowered.
28 Feb 2016 12:14:25
I mean I wouldn't mind ward starting 😕. I fear for our back line if our midfield is overpowered.
28 Feb 2016 12:56:02
Although I'm a big Ward fan (should have played against West Ham) this game is too big for your first coming back and Migs played well in our last match, so it's Migs for me! I'm more wondering where to fit Lucas in, as he should start for me, as if he starts DM, who misses out on a starting berth?
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28 Feb 2016 13:10:35
Migs starts by default, nothing more.
28 Feb 2016 09:51:59
Had a weird dream last night about the match. Liverpool won 2-1 but there were 3 sent off, 2 for City and 1 for the Reds. So put your money on 2-1!
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28 Feb 2016 09:25:10
Getting ready to board train to Wembley with brother. Obviously league form could be better but geedy as a kid on Christmas going to Wembley!
Surely this is what football is for and the privilege to watch my team play at Wembley in a cup final is something I thank Klopp and to give credit where it is due Rodgers for.
Haven't got everything right but hopeful in years to come trips like this will become more regular!
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28 Feb 2016 09:48:26
Have a great day. Ynwa.
28 Feb 2016 09:21:51
Just been told they are doing extra security checks today so it might take longer to get in the stadium for any reds going today see you there come on liverpool!
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28 Feb 2016 09:19:59
"We'll beat ManCity, we'll beat Man City with Klopp and goals" to the tune of Built This City by Starship
No? I'll lock the door on the way out.
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28 Feb 2016 10:04:47
That's actually not half bad Annie, got me bopping my head and singing it.
28 Feb 2016 13:41:10
Haha! I like it! I do get bored of supporters chanting a players name to seven nation army, although I don't think ours have ever done that.
28 Feb 2016 08:48:05
Good luck to the boys today YNWA.
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28 Feb 2016 08:41:03
In London already, my boy is on the train on his way to meet me, two mates are on the coach from the Jolly Miller and I am buzzing. Cannot wait for this afternoon, full brekky in a bit, then the day starts, come on Jurgens red and white army!
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28 Feb 2016 09:49:57
You making us jealous breakfasts and a final :p haha hope you have the best day expecially for us who can't go ynwa.
28 Feb 2016 08:13:28
Did we actually sell super pepe?
I thought it was a loan? Didn't ever see a sale price?
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28 Feb 2016 03:21:21
Just read Jon Ronsons new book on Shaming which highlights the abusive behaviour we are all capable of as anonymous individuals in a crowd (be it on the Internet or in a stadium) . If the Eds get even a tiny fraction of this kind of hate spewed by trolls (and we know they do) they have my utmost sympathy and admiration for continuing to provide information.
Hoping we smash City today but if we lose, and Sterling scores a hat trick, I hope we carry on the type of old-school traditions that would see LFC fans applauding the opposition if they deserve the cup.
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