Liverpool Banter Archive August 28 2013

 

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28 Aug 2013 22:39:49
My god can people stop talking about transfers, its getting incredibly tedious now! If they come in, then great! If not move on its that simple! People have an incredible need to see the club spend rediculous amounts of money on players to the point where if we dont, you on the brink of suicide! Chill out for goodness sake! On another note, happy 100th birthday to bill shankly, forever in our hearts!

Ian the red

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Good post mate. People seem to forget we have had a great start to the season and still have one of the world's top strikers to come back.

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Stop talking about transfers on a rumour site? You need to slow down on the drink my friend if you don't want to read about them go to one of the several billion web sites that deal with other topics

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I think most of our fans are getting a bit pissed off because of the activity
at Spurs, I don't want the club to spend
ridiculous amounts of money
But what I do want is at least 2 or 3 new players who can fit in easily to the
style of football the manager wants
not players who will come good in 12 months time, because at the moment
it looks like we can forget about the
top 4

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Your kind of supporter is a dying breed. Top post!

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TSB I have been coming on this site for the best part of five years, before it was split into the pages we see today so don't you suggest to me that I ought to visit another site! I have been posting for that length of time and never have I been met with the hostility that you have just shown me! And before I continue, I don't drink mate, your arrogance I find astounding! I am not suggesting for one minute that people stop talking about transfer rumours regarding our own club, its more the hatred/jealousy that has been displayed in relation to tottenham who have quite simply spent the bale money! Good luck to them, it makes the league more competitive which isn't a bad thing really! All we can do is pull in the same direction and support the team and if we get a couple in before the end of the window then all well and good! The money that is in football today has made supporters greedy in terms of wanting to spend fortunes and it simply isn't good for the health of the game!

Ian the red

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28 Aug 2013 22:38:52
Capital One cup draw 3rd round
To be played 24/25 September

Man Utd v Liverpool
Sunderland v Peterborough
West Ham v Cardiff
Man City v Wigan
Burnley v Nottingham Forest
Newcastle v Leeds
Southampton v Bristol City
West Brom v Arsenal
Swindon v Chelsea
Tranmere v Stoke
Watford v Norwich
Aston Villa v Tottenham
Hull v Huddersfield
Leicester v Derby
Birmingham v Swansea
Fulham v Everton

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No better way to unleash Suarez on the gutless mancs.

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28 Aug 2013 22:38:10
Used to love this site, but god there are so many whiners and so much negativity now. I'll b so glad when the window is over. Spurs needed the reinforcements much more than we did. They're losing their best player. We have kept ours.
When you sell a player for 80 million + then clearly you have a lot of money to spend. Ima have to leave the banter section until game day.

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I would disagree, thewy have not got £80m to spend. the 80m fee is payable over 4 instalments of 20m each year.

So they are only receiving the first down payment of 20m. they've spent including Lamela around 100m {Ed001's Note - they also have a final payment from the Modric deal due.}

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I made a very similar comment last week. Nice to see that someone picked up on this.

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29 Aug 2013 09:25:01
Yeah maybe they are getting the fee in instalments, but they are also paying for these players in the same exact way! Obviously obvious ain't it?

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28 Aug 2013 22:22:42
Have we ever gone two years without drawing Manchester United in a cup?

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Ano its great!

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28 Aug 2013 22:34:22
I am amazed at the amount of 'spurs' related post's, but the worst one are the ones accusing them of copying our transfer targets.
There are only a certain amount of quality players going around. Spurs are in a better position then us to sign them, deal with it. No one is copying anyone. Stop it, it's embarrassing.

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The reason is mate that before the start of this season we had a realistic chance of finishing above them but with the way they've moved in the transfer market we've no chance of catching them. We've been linked with so many players and we've all got enthusiastic about them and signed none of them, in the mean time Spurs have gone around Europe and seem to have signed more or less anyone they've tried to. They have made us look distinctly amateurish in the way they've gone about their dealings and are getting so far in front of us now that a lot of us are starting to worry, at this rate we've no chance of competing with them let alone the likes of Chelsea, UTD and City.

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28 Aug 2013 22:33:41
Having now heard spurs have had bid accepted for eriksen I have resigned myself to the fact we have no money and won't be signing any marquee players or even any squad players come that. For the first time I am losing trust and patience in fsg. The other day when BR was saying we lost out on Willian because other bids exceeded our valuation of the player, is another way of saying we're skint and we know are. GUTTED!!

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If not signing eriksen is proof we have no money then I`m good with that. HE IS OVERRATED!

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Do you not find it a bit odd, that a lot of great teams have been linked with Eriksen, but none of them have pushed to get a deal completed.

If he was that special, he would have been snapped up months ago, there is obviously more than meets the eye with this deal, or there is problems with the player himself!

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28 Aug 2013 22:23:31
I really wish people would quit comparing our situation to Spurs and Chelsea. It's just getting ridiculous. If we had managed to sell Suarez, Skrtel, and Reina then we also would have had a large chunk of money to spend or if we had a multi-billionaire owner who didn't seem too fussed about money than we might have as well. We don't have such an owner (waaaahhh, it's not fair!), we didn't (or haven't yet) sold Suarez, so please, please, please stop all of the moaning.

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In most windows we tend to net spend more than spurs, so don't understand your point about billionaire owners . even this window and with all of spurs spending, I think we will end up net spending more than them (excluding taxes / agents fees etc etc -- mentioned here to make ed002 a happy bunny).

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28 Aug 2013 22:21:52
After two wins in a row optimism ruled and we were looking forward to ManU getting beat at Anfield and us going Top! Then Notts County arrived, we nearly blew it and lost 3 players to injury, importantly Toure who has become essential to our back four.
BUT. WHERE ARE THE QUALITY SIGNINGS WE WERE PROMISED?

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Who promised them? I know BR talking about them but never promising. Maybe I missed something

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When did BR promise you star signings?

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We have bought players that have improved the squad, now we look to players to strengthen the first 11. That's what he means. He's right to feel.annoyed like the rest of us.

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28 Aug 2013 22:20:45
'Envy' - a feeling of discontent or covetousness with regard to another's advantages, possessions etc - sums up many of the Liverpool fans on this site towards Spurs.

PS - I left out success from the dictionary definition as Spurs have had very little success in recent times!

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So, Spurs have spent a few quid this year. So have we over the last three. Shall we see how many of these Spuds signings turn into absolute winners. Why not zip it, stop bitching and see how the rest of this season goes. because it looks like the Spurs are running away with it so far. Those to spot kicks. wow!

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We will see where all these signings get them. If they lose to Arse and start on the wrong foot in the league, then I would hate to be AVB at that moment.

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Haha yeah Redohio you've confirmed it you don't know anything about football. Spurs have acquired some of Europe's best players, they have a 100% record in a all ready talented squad and you'd hate to be AVB, utter nonsense. I'd rather be him than Brendan Rodgers at the moment.

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28 Aug 2013 22:18:25
hi there sorry to disappoint fellow Liverpool fans but coutinho is nowhere near the next dalglish. there is a reason inter sold him for £8.5m, he's very inconsistent. give him his due he performed well at espanyol and his first 6 months here but that's when things are going well, new club, new vibe. in my opinion he will be an above average player, definately won't take the premier league by storm. i'm sorry but if we don't hijack spurs move for erikson (no chance) then top 4 is a million miles away. let's all get realistic

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Aren't you a little ray of sunshine?!?! No middle ground with you - who's comparing Dalglish with Coutinho? or Eriksen (top 4) No Eriksen (top 4 million miles away). He ain't that good!

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No offence, but your post is incredibly stupid. First of all, Coutinho has been great since joining. He might have a slow start to the season, but that doesn't matter when you look at the table.
But, and here is the FACT that you are overlooking, Coutinho is 21 and playing in the Prem! Where was KD playing at 21? Not Liverpool! Coutinho is his own person and you should just leave him alone.

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Of all the annoying posts this one has got my back up!

Coutinho is twice the player Eriksson is. If he is that good then why aren't the real madrids, barcas, munichs going in going in for him? He wouldn't get in our team ahead of Coutinho so would be senseless to spend £12m on a player who would be benched when we have an immediate need for a centre back, LW and forward

Let BR do his thing and back him all the way, there is a reason he is our manager and not me or you.

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Great insight mate - have you thought of turning that into a chant?

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Are you a manc who`s terrified about what he might do to your pathetic team come sunday?

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28 Aug 2013 22:17:24
Man utd in 3rd round of league cup. Adds a bit of spice to the early season.

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28 Aug 2013 22:31:04
I am sick of people on this site talking about Tottenham.
It's about what we do.

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It's about what we do.
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100% agree with you, but will add to it its also about what we 'dont' do

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28 Aug 2013 22:30:36
Ive got to the point of not wanting to put tv on now because the only player we're 'linked' with is a 'promising' under 21 championship player don't get me wrong he might end up good but is he really going to help us challenge the top four? I don't really want to blame the owners but where is the ambition this is the last summer window before the ffp rules come in and a lot of the teams below and some above us last season have all strengthened. The fact is the longer we're out the cl the harder it'll be to get back in. If we got Turan and Sakho to finish this window with it'd give us a much better chance.

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28 Aug 2013 22:15:45
Can't believe all the (so-called) grown men on this page crying about Spurs signing a few new players?

Instead of whining and blowing sunshine up Daniel Levy's backs!de, why don't you boys grow a pair and put all your efforts into cheering the team on this Sunday when the enemy visit Anfield?

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Does it not slightly frustrate you that we aren't competing for players who will make a difference to the team and that our competitors are just getting stronger? I admire your faith but a dose of reality may well hit us at the weekend, this is when we find out how good we are.
All I can say is would you really prefer Moses over Eriksen or Lamela?

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Well said Dalglish Loyalist

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As a former footballer who played at a pretty high competitive level, I tellyou that I DON`T CARE about players who are not here. All any lfc player should worry about is the fans, the coach, the club and those 10 other players he is going into battle with. Games are not won in the papers or transfer rumours. They are won on the pitch. That is how a determined competitor and devoted fan should think. Get it? Good.

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28 Aug 2013 22:15:30
I was reading newsnow article on there sais saurez scored in a behind closed doors friendly against portvale good news bodes well for when he returns and hope the honda rumours are true I'd take honda over erikson even though he is older a cd as well I don't think we will have had a too bad transfer window here's hoping

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28 Aug 2013 22:14:46
Haha, I fear some will be considering topping themeselves when the window closes.

Not going to say we will not sign anyone, but after last summers fiasco of a window I will not be surprised if we dont. don't get me wrong, despite the frustration i'm not going to fling myself under a bus if we dont.

We will just muddle along as per and we will see where we end up at the end of the season. Hopefully back in europe!

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I personally would rather dodge the Europa league, too many games and not enough income from it.
We will be very lucky to get near the top four without some more quality.
I'm not sure that comparing us with Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal or Spurs that we are anywhere near as good as them.
If spurs are going out and buying quality like Lamela and Eriksen, we are being left behind seriously if we go for the likes of Moses.
I'd love to be proven wrong but the I just can't see it.

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28 Aug 2013 22:11:56
Spurs spurs spurs. If I go on the tottenham page will they be posting about Liverpool?

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No, they are flying high on moral and typing about Soldado, Lamela, Eriksen, Chadil, Paulinho and Capoue.

We've got Mignolet Toure, Cissokho, Alberto and Aspas to keep our powder dry.

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It is just frustrating that spurs are buying a lot of good players and we aren't, seeing as spurs are a team we should be competing with its very frustrating that we seem to be sat on our hands.
All I can say is they are likely to sign Eriksen for 8m and Lamela for 24m which is less than we paid in total for Borini and Allen, which I just find slightly annoying and very frustrating. {Ed001's Note - how is it frustrating? Good luck to them, it is petty to get annoyed about another team's signings.}

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28 Aug 2013 22:10:01
Man U v Liverpool in 3rd round of cup

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28 Aug 2013 22:09:54
A transfer of window of rattles flying out of prams so far. I suspect there will be some high end business over the next few days.

Hypothetical swap (looking for a reaction):

Suarez/Rooney.

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Rooney, past it, overweight and not world class.
Suarez, peak of his form, a true world class player.
I think I'd rather not thanks, let Rooney go to London and discover all the grannys that it has to offer.

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Rooney is running on fumes, dude. Let it go.

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28 Aug 2013 22:08:53
4 days left in the transfer window. I think if we get a CB and LW let's just be grateful.

Sakho and Turan would do, but loathe to pay 25m for Turan, when we could have had Ericksen for half the price and 5 years younger too, or even could have tried for Lamela.

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Young players aren't everything, I think we could use a little more experience in attacking positions.

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28 Aug 2013 22:04:58
If we get 2 signings this window (doubtful) my predictions are A.Sanchez (loan with option to buy) or V. Moses as backup.

Secondly K Papadopulous with M Sakho as backup.

I would be content with no further signings though

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And carry on with just three fit midfielders ken?

what if gerrard pulls his hamstring against united?/ down to just hendo and lucas

we need a central midfield option badly

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Just watched Barcelona vs Atletico and. Another match that Sanchez starts. I don't think he's going anywhere, but what about Pedro?

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28 Aug 2013 22:03:26
I have been reluctant to register on this site for various reasons, but I have been pi**ed off with the bullying again of Harry and other posters who show some concerns about our club! I think some folk on here have gone over the top with there criticism of the team from last night because I thought we were excellent but they scored out of nothing and it was baffling how they got back into the game, but they are entitled to there opinion! Harry and anybody else, say what you want to say and DON'T BE BULLIED!

P.S. Allen has just heard he is to be a dad again so lay off him, he is in for sleepless nights again which is bound to affect his form

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Well I enjoyed the break while it lasted, but welcome back Waro. Good to see you are still your same old self. Just as you, Harry and the other whiners are entitled to your opinions, so are the rest of us. We should all agree to disagree and I think if you post on here, whatever it is, you are fair game for peoples comments. If we are all honest, we all post to see what reaction we get from fellow fans. We have to take the good with the bad. Good to have you back mate.

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28 Aug 2013 22:02:57
What a load of . stop talking about spurs u persons! u fan of a bale-soldado-walker-sppurs? go to their page and spam, I think a lot of people are full of that c.

Stop it it makes me sick to my stumack, and I can't take it anymore, it is a benter page but man this is enough

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28 Aug 2013 22:00:41
Ed 01

Has the Liverpool page moved as my link keeps bringing me on to the Spurs site?

Puzzled!

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28 Aug 2013 22:00:34
Hi Eds and Reds

Eds. Is this the Spurs page or Liverpool. All that's put on here is Spurs this and Spurs that its getting ridiculous now. PEOPLE. STOP worrying about SPURS and concentrate on LIVERPOOL.

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28 Aug 2013 21:59:18
Suarez first game back against united!
Lovely

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Or tastier than Ivanovic at least!

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28 Aug 2013 21:58:15
WOW. now that's a draw. united away and suarez 1st game back if still here. tastier than normal I would say

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28 Aug 2013 21:56:07
Last nights game highlighted 3 issues to me:

Firstly, Johnson is braindead when he gets into attacking positions in the final third.

Secondly, Sterling and Ibe may well become world beaters in a couple of years but they are not ready to play week in / week out in the Prem. Odd games, Capitol One Cup and coming on as subs should be what they are used for at the moment.

Thirdly, Gerrard and Coutinho excluded, the decison making for final balls is woeful. Manchester United are not a great team but they always deliver quality, undefendable balls from wide, which is why they pick up so many points.

FSG must fork out for a quality left-sided player before the window closes. To fail to do so would be a dereliction of their responsibilities. A massive amount has been saved on wages and we are in the black in transfer dealings. If we don't get top 4 this season I can see it being harder in years to come, so they need to back Rodgers now.

In my time watching Liverpool, the Manager has always been given a transfer budget each year, usually minimum £20m (apart from under Rafa for 2 years when H & G went AWOL). Why are FSG stalling now? What are they going to do with all the television money?

I have a horrible feeling we are all going to go to bed disappointed on deadline day.

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Bet you go to bed disappointed most nights pal

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Yeah, what has happened to Johnson going forward - he used to be so good under Rafa and Kenny. Since Brendan came in, he has not been as good going forward. Is it the player, the system or a combination. I can't work it out.

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28 Aug 2013 21:53:51
I'd say well done Spurs, they've seen an opportunity to take Man utd, city, arsenal and Chelsea with all the change within their clubs (or lack of for arsenal), can't believe arsenal didn't have a similar strategy.

As for us I just hope we keep progressing as we are with a few new faces for a little more depth. Good solid performance on Sunday to keep us moving forward (draw not the end of world but feel we can win )

Really can't wait for window to close!

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I`m with you, bro.

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28 Aug 2013 21:52:10
Liverpool are making an audacious bid in trying to recruit sky pokers best talent. Scouts have been sent to watch Shane Warne in action. But it seems that spurs have caught wind of the deal and have gazumped Liverpools bid for the former Australian test bowler.

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28 Aug 2013 21:50:30
well done celtic. let's hope we can meet them in the group stages next season

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28 Aug 2013 21:50:22
it's getting twitchy bum time in the transfer market, time running out, price's will rise as team's get desperate, others getting quality signings leaving scraps for us if we're lucky, can't seem to see a good outcome for us, a good start but over a season we will struggle

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28 Aug 2013 21:46:42
Man United away in next round!

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28 Aug 2013 21:42:17
Stop whining about Eriksen! Would you swap him for Coutinho? I wouldn't.

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Nope but would make the squad a lot stronger plus he can player deeper a long side Lucas or Gerrard

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Hear, hear Square Tomato - well said

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I d take him aswell as coutinho though

no one is whining abut eriksen

people are concerned because our squad is at the bare bones after 3 games of the season

we have 3 fit centralmidfielder
we have toure coates cisshoko out
skrtel not matchfit

and still no winger

its only natural to be concerned when we see rivals like spurs stengthening
and no one can argue that they haven't made some quality signings

we need 3 players in badly a wnger a cm and a cb

and now we have 5 days to do it

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Cos we couldn't possibly need both!

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I don't think it's so much about Erikson but more about the fact that we need players and we can see spurs strengthening their squad.
Obviously just because a player is expensive it doesn't mean he will be any good but a lot of players do get an expensive price tag because their teams know that they are talented and other teams will want them.
A lot of our fans will support the club through think and thin (some wont) but the fact is we all want to see the team win the title but we can't compete with all the other teams spending hoards of money.
It's a long time since we won it and it seems like a vicious circle that we need champs league quality to get in the competition or win the league but we can't attract the players we want as we aren't in the competition so it's catch 22.
We just have to hope that we can carry one finding hidden gems but the sad fact is hope doesn't win titles.
It's hard to stay optimistic when it seems like every other team are buying players that we would love, we just have to get behind the players and try to cheer them to victory.
Sorry for rambling but I think it's understandable why some people ate complaining a lot.

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Rather holby

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That's not the question, the point is, how disappointing is it that Spurs get a potential world class talent like Eriksen and we're chasing a championship standard player like Moses.

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Chelsea don`t sign championship players. Moses is a raw talent with pace, power, and skill who can improve under Rodgers. and BTW my ignorant friend, Moses is first choice in the NIgeria team (who are no slouches) and was one of the best players at the last Afcon this year. He must be a championship player because he doesn`t cost 30m.

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28 Aug 2013 21:33:05
hi see spurs r on the spend again, well that's fine but for those worrying bout what they or who they buying chill, I really believe that we have a couple of good signings just waiting in the wings, as good as start we may of had in terms of results I think we can see that we need couple of top players in to compete with the top teams consistently, or I think we will fall short against the better teams maybe not straight away but over course of the season and i'm sure br can see this too, if this doesn't happen then I will be very dissapointed as think we have an opportunity to push on this season, hope i'm right anyway can't wait for sunday

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28 Aug 2013 21:32:48
Is this the Spurs Banter page or is the Liverbird crest on the top left of the screen an illusion?

Worry about your own clubs boys 'n' girls as you look desperate.

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Well said Davey.

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Agreed Davey it's getting a bit tiring now isn't it. Win 3 games on the bounce and it still ain't good enough.

I've been to 2 games and lovin it.

We are on the lookout for players still so we might be surprised hey. If not I like what we are building. Players who want to wear our shirt and know what it means. We are on track

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Desperation is a sign of weakness.

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28 Aug 2013 21:29:06
was just wondering if any one know how lucas moura has been doing at psg? is he getting any games. has he lived up to his billing?
now wouldn't he be something else for the left side.

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28 Aug 2013 21:27:23
I really hope we can pull this SAkho deal off - the man looks like a pure gladiator and, at only 23 can give us many years of service

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28 Aug 2013 21:06:46
Hi, can someone explain what our finances are like at the moment. Apparently we have the 9th highest income in the world, we have a global fanbase that is surely bigger than the likes of spurs, we have Tom werner saying we can complete financially yet our most expensive player this summer is £9m. Spurs have blown us out the water and bought players we supposedly were looking at and even Southampton have spent more! From the outside we either don't have any money or the fsg are not willing to spend any money. If so how do they expect to get champions league with no investment?

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The best projection I can find for the FY May 2012-May 2013 says we probably lost somewhere in the neighborhood of £28M last year. The actual financials haven't been released but let's just assume that's accurate as the blogger who put it together seemed to do a good job laying it all out. There were a few exceptions last year we don't have to pay again (e.g. fee to Swansea for BR and Joe Cole's signing bonus) but we also don't have Europa, so say that gives us +£6M or so versus last year.

I'm assuming we don't have any exceptions this year (e.g. the revenue for Carroll/Downing/etc meets or exceeds their amortized book value and no other exceptions) and that we basically broke even on all of those sales (which may not be accurate). I'm also assuming gate receipts, commercial deals, etc. remain flat as well as other operating expenses.

Assume we've also trimmed the wage bill and player amortization by 10% each (no idea if this is right but it seems a reasonable guesstimate, just a swag as I don't feel like figuring this our for each transfer).

For wage bill, it's roughly ~£123M for FY 2012-2013 but that includes all of the employees of LFC. Only ~60% of that goes towards the first team, so net change of call it ~6%. Let's call the wage bill now ~£116M.

For player amortization, according to projections it's ~£40M. So, if 10%, call it ~£36M now.

Net change from those two items is (£4M + £7M) for total saving in wages/amortization of £11M. Add the savings from the exceptions category and now we're at £11M + £6M = +£17M versus last FY.

So, from a £28M loss to a £11M projected loss this FY instead (assuming we don't buy or sell any more players and all the other assumptions hold true).

This is why I don't see us buying anyone if we don't sell. A lot of hypotheticals above and I'm not an accountant so I could have well mucked something up or forgot something entirely, so take it with a grain of salt.

Also, I've ignored the ~+£25M from the new TV deal as Ed002 mentioned the other day that hasn't been paid yet and may not be until after FY 2013-2014 is over. That is a bit of a wild card (along with all of the other guessing).

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28 Aug 2013 20:29:19
Maybe I'm feeling glum but the season so far has me concerned yes we are going in the right direction but we look so far behind a top four position it's depressing I wish the club would make two quality signings (note I said quality not costly) to lift my gloom
However I nice three nil win on Sunday will lift the gloom

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28 Aug 2013 22:25:44
Hol - 'look so far behind a top 4 position' Are we not currently 2nd?

Also 'season so far' - 2 games in?

Cheer up man!

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28 Aug 2013 22:40:06
We will find out how close we are to the upper reaches of the table on Sunday. until then, let's back the team and support the manager

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And you know that after 2 games. If we win sun, we mght be top of the league for the coming two weeks. So how are we falling behind atm?

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28 Aug 2013 21:02:38
if we can sign Sakho, Ayew and Honda our chances for a top 4 push will be enhanced.

Honda would be the perfect replacement for Downing as he can play LW-AM-RW and Fullback if needed. the only problem would be Milan really wanting him. but I'm sure CSKA Moscow would like to make some money on him.

Sakho is perfect as he can play CB or LB which would be really helpful & Ayew to breath some life into the left side of our attack.

a total of around £28m would might get them which isn't bad considering we spent £20m on Sturridge and Coutinho. and with the £4m or so made from sales so far the net spending would come at around £25m which would actually be less than last summers spending on Allen, Borini, Assaidi, Yesil and Sahin on loan.

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28 Aug 2013 21:00:17
Just thought I would post on this Moses situation yes he is good and is still young enough to improve can play in various positions. So we're taking him of Chelsea hands and there getting atsu Willian etc. Same with spurs sell bale invest in Lamela erikson possibly etc, we're is the money were supposed to have?, and also hat happens to improving the team Moses is only improving the squad once again I thought we have already supposed to hae done that.

Cheers

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28 aug 2013 21:08:32
wish people will just realise we won get any new signing who r big if we sign any1 it will just be youngsters for reserve and youth team!! we will finish mid table

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I think you posted on the wrong page fulham page your after mate

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Your wisdom is just endless. Don't say we please, don't wanna associate with such negative.

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Top quality first post that one njd. I think your concerns with the club stem from deeper darker issues - feel free to share, we are family on here and are willing to talk you through. Waro and Harry Scouser are the shoulders you will need.

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28 Aug 2013 20:46:08
Spurs are in talks with Ajax over Eriksen! Do they have a list of L, Pool targets or what? Looks like another class player is going to slip thru the net! L, pool will be left with average players, Lamela going to Spurs too!

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28 Aug 2013 20:37:17
Who'd have thought. Suarez training and playing a match today behind closed doors today, while the media darling Bale goes on strike to get what he wants.

Not much being said about his behaviour it seems

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28 Aug 2013 20:33:43
Okay not being negative here at all - just trying to gauge fans opinions/expectations - but as it stands, currently, does anyone on here think we have a realistic chance to finish above Spurs?

I think we could finish above Arsenal but I'm not sure about Spurs.

My concern with Spurs though is that they have bought a lot of players in this past season which may not all gel together, after all it is a team game. In the past season they have replaced their whole spine. E.g. Lloris, Vertonghen, Paulinho, Soldado.

Just my thoughts.

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Yes I think we will finish above Spurs. I think there's more goals in Sturridge, Suarez and Coutinho than any other 3 in the league.

At the back it's a shame Toure is injured because he makes us very solid.

Him and Suarez should return around the same time.

If we can stay in the mix until then, we can then really kick on when they're back.

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Paulinho isn't that grate but also there buying a lot of new players who's to say they'll click?

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28 Aug 2013 20:19:28
i don't no about all the other lfc fans but I am about fed up of seeing spurs bring in quality players and bidding for quality and yet I ain't heard of us so much as us being linked to players were going to get left behind this season if we don't start working fast(come on eds tell us your thoughts on players coming in)

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28 Aug 2013 20:07:37
the first worrying signs were in brendans interview the other day when he said

even if we don't bring anyone else in, I have faith in the squad

worrying
weneed a wide attacker, cm and cb

squad at the bare bones after 3 games

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28 Aug 2013 20:05:47
Spurs given permission to talk to Eiksson, another we've lost to Spurs, or another we've dodged aka; Dempsy?

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28 Aug 2013 21:38:45
he's a spurs fan so I think we'd never have stood a hope if we were interested

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I think spurs will have a shout for the title myself!

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To be honest, I'm not overly impressed by Spur's signings (except Paulinho, he's absolute class). No interest in Eriksen from my perspective- poor man's Coutinho except not as flexible or good and is costing them more than the real one.

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Yes £8:5 mill surely worth us going in for him at that price!

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The strength in depth of the spurs squad is well beyond ours

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28 Aug 2013 20:03:44
Why did I think ed022 was a Liverpool fan? {Ed001's Note - different Ed022, we made a mistake assigning this ed022 a number that was previously taken.}

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Ahh ok cheers ed001

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Well said

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28 Aug 2013 20:01:25
Harry,

I wanted to respond to your post earlier on AG's thread and say no, that wasn't directly aimed at you exclusively, however I do feel you are a part of an ever growing group of people on here who are belittling a group of players who have recently arrived and are struggling.

The likes of Allen, Borini et al were bought for fees I do believe were inflated relative to the performances they have put in thus far, however my main gripe is the constant need for posters to bring up their transfer fees as some lame excuse to lambast them and make them sound like a bunch of persons who can't kick a ball.

These players didn't choose the price they went for, and I'm pretty damn sure they aren't enjoying their own performances at present. On top of that, they are being harangued for not performing 100% instantly. These lads wouldn't even be out of University yet, and have been brought to a huge club who have been faltering for some time, with fans expecting them to light Anfield up instantly. The reality is players need time. Players like Henderson, Lucas etc had the masses out with pitchforks, and what happened? They turned it around, and now they are loved.

Not only this, but these players are giving it their all, you can see it. They want to do well, they are just struggling. In contrast, we have players like Luis who would jump on the first train out of Liverpool at the drop of a hat, yet he is idolised.

I'm bored of hearing our young players who have only (in the grand scheme of things) recently moved to LFC being ripped apart by fans. It's disgusting. Yes, they aren't performing, but these players need us all to be behind them, whether you believe in them or not. It's part of being a supporter.

Allen isn't going to get sold this window. Borini isn't going to get sold this window. Can't we just lay off them? Calling them every name under the sun is going to achieve absolute zero. It just makes us sound fickle.

Quite frankly I couldn't care less if people don't agree with me, I'd just like to come on here for one single day, and see everyone rallying behind the players, ESPECIALLY the players who are struggling, because they need us to cheer for them as much as we need them to perform. It's a symbiotic relationship, and at present I don't think some people realise that.

JFT 96

JP

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Fully agree JFT96JP

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Fantastic post JP, needed saying!

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Dude thanks for posting this.

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Ah, the sweet silver song of a supporter. (Rare breed these, in fact, neither-stormy-nor-rainy days.) I'll continue following this site, with hope in my heart. You'll never walk alone.

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One of the best posts I have seen on here.

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Cheers lads, much appreciated, genuinely.

JFT 96

JP

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That post is the definition of you'll never walk alone.

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Damn right, well said jft.

dbadger.

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28 Aug 2013 20:00:15
Spurs getting Lamela and Eriksen. That Daniel Levy is awesome. Always trying to sign the best players. We should be targeting these kind of players at Liverpool. I think if we need 2 top players. Money is available or so we are led to believe

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'One swallow doesn't make a summer' True Levy has done very well this window but there have been plenty windows where he hasn't acted or acted at the last minute i.e. moutinho last year on deadline evening. Fans on this site have accused Liverpool of being a 'feeder club' on the basis it was rumoured we would sell Suarez to Arsenal - Spurs of course sold their top forwards i.e. Berbatov/Keane to competitors previously. Not sure about 'always trying to sign the best players' Let's see how it all pans out. To date, they have scored 2 goals - both from the spot - as I have said in previous posts, I am optimistic about this season that I have been for a long time.

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Now compare Daniel Levy to our Tom Werner :(

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Daniel Levy may well be "awesome" but the fact remains, that in over 20 years of Premier League football Spurs have won only two league cups and managed just two top four finishes.

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Is that the same Levy who got Dempsey ;)

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28 Aug 2013 19:51:00
Feel sorry for the Eds given Eriksen could potentially be heading to Spurs, somehow it'll be your fault we haven't gone for him. Heading into the last few days of the window, the Echo reporter has said he expects at least two signings which is pretty much what the eds have said. Would be perfect if we could get Sakho and Turan but that seems as if its highly unlikely by the sounds of it. Sakho would be a fantastic signing although he is left footed like Agger, two right footed centre backs often play together so why not vice versa.

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28 Aug 2013 19:43:31
Given Spurs finished above us last season and given the signings they've made I can only see us finishing above them this season.

Don't know what everyone's worried about, CL qualification is nailed on!

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Im not sure . love the look ov there first 11 with sum good benchers 2 . and a couple more signings they will be closer to the title than most . we cert need a couple more 2 and kp suarez to give it a go

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28 Aug 2013 19:39:39
Levy in Amsterdam and spurs agreed £8.3m fee for eriksen.

Eriksen now speaking to spurs.

Again we are behind the 8 ball. Spurs are able to sign young talented stars without CL football, yet so far we are impotent in this respect.

If they get ericksen they have.

Soldado
Chadli
Paulino
Lamela
Capoue
Ericksen

. amazing. Yet we just do nothing.

Oh well another one gone!

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Stop whining its not healthy for you

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Spurs have a lot of cash to spend. We have a banned striker we seemingly can't (or won't) sell.

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28 Aug 2013 21:45:34
And yet we are still on the same points as them after 2 games, start judging when they are 5-10 points ahead of us, sometimes you can have to many stars and I expect that to be the same with spurs,

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28 Aug 2013 21:50:55
Yes and no bale to carry the team. Mediocre overrated players.

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Nothing.Aspas, Alberto, Mignolet. oh well - never mind you could always support Spurs! I love that we are playing Coutinho, Ibe and Sterling - great to see young attacking talent being given a chance

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Hate to agree but its starting to get worrying. Where are these players who BR said would improve not only the squad but the starting X1.
Really hope I'm wrong but is showing all the signs of the summer window last year & no new players in the final few days.
We've received more money than paid out this window yet the squad is still paper thin. Please FSG, Ayre whoever get the chequebook out.

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Why don't you go and support spurs then? Take your green eyes and leave the rest of us to support Liverpool fc. Doesn't matter who anybody else signs we get behind the 11 lads in red. Some proper jokers on here. This is Liverpool rumours and banter not oh my god look who Tottenham have bought.

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Well I think you have made your mind up to go and support spurs.

good luck and thanks for stopping by

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Only paulinho and lamela on that list were quality signings. All these people afraid of spurs. Have you watched their games? Tons of attack with 0 end product.

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Or we could just try and grow our own stars?

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If Erickson was our main target we would have got him at that price.

Stop your bloody whinging. You nearly made me throw my laptop.

Spurs are doing it all wrong. They've taken a huge risk spending all this money. If they don't get top 4 it could go tits.

Also their fan base is currently the UK. I'm sure our income dwarfs theirs.

We're planing for the future too. We have perhaps the best U21's and youth in the country

How many of those players have you really watched play and not on youtube.

Ed's you must all have the patience of saints reading this all day, plus what we don't read.

Also Ed's of those 6 players, how many do you know were serious Liverpool targets rather than those who were just scouted?

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28 Aug 2013 19:37:31
Evening everyone. Just registered so first time post. Is Martin Skrtel injured or available for Sunday? If he is injured do people think we will go with Agger and Wisdom or try and buy someone quickly? I spent the whole game worrying Sturridge would get injured but losing Toure has thrown up big problems in my opinion.

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He was injured but has resumed training and will be available on Sunday .

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28 Aug 2013 19:35:19
Anyone else getting worried about Spurs? I know I am, rumours now about Eriksen, where the hell are they getting all of this money from? They haven't won anything in years! Right now they are the team I most fear in the league, there is no way that we will even compete with them, not being defeatist this is just my honest opinion.

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I really don't care about them.our focus should be arsenal they are the ones who have turned 4th spot to their birth right.we would see how great they really are when they play arsenal

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28 Aug 2013 21:45:55
worried about spurs? they have finnished above us for the last few years! and have improved in staff its the evertons and sotons we should be worried about.

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Erm from selling there only good player for a world record transfer fee?

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We can't compete with them? Have you seen their games? Just bc you spend big on overrated players doesn't mean jack. We can compete with them when their number one Bale leaves for sure. Even with him I'm not scared

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I think you want the spurs page mate. On this site we worry about LFC.

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28 Aug 2013 19:33:35
spurs now in for Eriksen. top 3 for them but where will be come may.

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Top 3 I'd bang a tenner on them for the league if they keep signing players of the same calibre

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28 Aug 2013 19:33:33
Ajax give Tottenham permission to speak to midfielder Christian Eriksen, So another potential transfer target looks gone, Spurs are going to be a force this season if they can gel.

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28 Aug 2013 19:28:10
I think you club is in great hands with Rodgers and fsg but if we are going to make a statement it is this week we do it, as everyone is moving above us and we can not stand still.
we must finish the work we started in the summer finish the job sign what we need and we got a chance to break back into top 4 if not we will not get there you got to be in it to win it (transfers) big week ahead

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28 Aug 2013 19:27:09
Glad we progressed in the cup yesterday. We played well in spite of having our fair share of rotten luck.

Ibe, Wisdom are very talented youngsters, however they are certainly not ready for starting spots in the premier league and both would benefit hugely from loan spells (not sure Ibe is eligible though).

Also found it strange that Borini didn't get any game time. Has Rodgers lost faith in him? Surely he needed some game time to build match fitness and confidence.

I know a lot of fans think people are overreacting considering we have had a good start to the season. However, in my opinion, our squad is miles off from our competition. Not necessarily the first team, but the depth is definitely lacking.

FSG have been brilliant in backing Dalglish and Rodgers so far, but in this window they have shown a certain reluctance to 'over pay'. I believe this is our best chance of getting into the top four in the last 5 years and possibly the next 5. In order to capitalise on the circumstances of other clubs (arsenal - no signings/injuries media/fan pressure, tottenham - loss of key player, Manchester United - Loss of talisman, Man city - New style of play) we must be willing to take a calculated risk on some players. With a CB and a left sided player being the obvious positions we need to strengthen, I believe FSG should already be aware that, value in the few fleeting days of transfer market, is highly subjective.

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Maybe Borini did not get any game time because Rodgers was pretty much forced into two substitutions and then with the way the game was going couldn't offer Borini that opportunity. I imagine the plan was to be well ahead with 30 mins to go and then give some players from the bench game time, as we know that didn't happen due to injuries and the scoreline. Rodgers has faith in Borini, he is still young and with time will get his chance to shine.

SwissRedinToronto

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28 Aug 2013 19:26:26
Latest BBC rumours Erikson given permission to talk to Spurs. Great
Thats Soldado and Erikson in one day.
Im rapidly starting to dislike Spurs
YNWA JFT96

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Personally, I couldn't give a flying f**k about Spurs.

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28 Aug 2013 19:05:45
Ericssen been given permission to speak to Spurs surprise surprise! I don't think our squad will be big enough to deal with 2 cup comps & the leauge! Not gona blame FSG we just have to face facts we are a big club support wise but financial wise we are not. We won't make champions league I think Europa is the best we can hope for. Levy has been very clever he has bought big on the back of Bale's sale now with their new stadium being built they won't have to spend big in transfer windows moving forward maybe 1 good player each window. My worry is when our stadium is being built wot will our budget be like? I worry for the future I think FSG will be good at balancing books but in order for us just to break into the top 4 heavy invesmeant is going to be needed & I don't see FSG being able to compete with any of the other teams chasing the top 4. Also think FSG were really hoping FFP would help even the playing field but again I think they will be left dissapointed as I think big teams will always find ways of cooking the books. For all the things I have said I think this is why FSG should look to sell the club ounce they can make a ptofit I really hope they do but do it responsibly to owners who are proven businessmen or company.

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I think it would help you to go check how much fsg have spent since they took over, rather than complain when we don't sign everyone you want

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Not complaining & yes they have spent but I honestly think they underestimated just how much money it would take to get us in to the champions league. As I stated I think they thought FFP would make things easier. They spent but the debacle with KK they will never do that again the reality is all of the teams that were above us apart from Everton do have far more spending power & once spurs have finished their ground a stadium to match but we won't. Factor in a new stadium with no champions league football will that not mean less money in the short to mid term?

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28 Aug 2013 18:59:19
It seems like spurs r getting eriksen aswell, how is Liverpool going to compete for a champions league spot when everyone is getting stronger, we have no squad to compete with a few more injuries and we won't have a starting eleven this is getting pathetic no CD cover no cover for Lucas no left winger how can people actually think that Liverpool has a chance for champions league spot.

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28 Aug 2013 18:59:06
It looks definate now as well that Erikson is going to Spurs now after a fellow teammate said he was going there. Correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure it was Overmars who said it.
Spurs are getting a pretty strong team now after signing Lamela as well. Shame we didn't make a move for him

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I think the answer to that ED001 is that we as fans have been told by Werner that we will not be disappointed with the funds available and Rodgers has talked about 1st team signings (not squad).

At the moment neither seems to be forthcoming and our competition is strengthening to a level we will not kbe able to compete over a season.

Whilst as a supporter of the club I believe Rodgers is doing on the whole a good job I am concerned that the club is attracting the quality of player needed.

I thought our initial moves in the transfer window showed positive intent. However our lack of 1st team signings is worrying.

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28 Aug 2013 18:47:10
ED great job with this site . But I have a question maybe you can answer or not but what the hell is going on with our great Club Liverpool we say that the money there and all I'm seeing and reading about is other clubs buying players. We talk about getting back up in the top 4 and its clear as day that if so then we really need to buy one or two big names . I can't blame Suarez for wanting to leave I just don't respect the way he went about it {Ed001's Note - your question is just a whine over nothing. Who cares what the other clubs do? Why does that mean there is anything wrong with our club? }

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28 Aug 2013 18:09:56
Well, Roma have announced the sale of Lamela to Spuds and announced the signing of Adem Ljajic from Fiorentina.

Great business in my opinion. Sold for 30m. Bought a quality player for 11m.

Come on Liverpool.

Keep the faith. YNWA

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28 Aug 2013 18:08:09
Andriy Yarmolenko . WOW I really hope we sign him

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Yarmolenko would be ideal on the left side of a front three

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28 Aug 2013 18:06:02
Whilst I am as disappointed as anyone that we have "missed out" on some high profile players for various reasons, I am at least encouraged by the players we have been looking at, okay Moses is not in the class as willian, mickey or costa but he is not the worst and hopefully we can pull off a couple of signings this week.
Remember the dark days of roy when we were linked with carlton cole and signing poulsen!
BR and scouts doing well to identify the players just need owners to dip into their pockets a little more, I think we have a real chance of getting top 4 with a couple of quality additions. speculate to accumulate :-) thanks mr Henry

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28 Aug 2013 17:30:58
I am using my uncles fan card this weekend for the game cause he is on holiday. I have just got a text off him saying to check the website as there is something wrong with the fan cards. just wondering if anyone could shed any light on the issue.

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A fan card will get you FA unless your uncle has been to certain amount of games (including the big ones). You can buy a fan card for a few quid.

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28 Aug 2013 18:55:41
It's admirable that we have grinded out results this season, but I'm worried about our impotence in front of goal and inability counterattack when defending. We shouldn't be depending on Mignolet every week to get a result.

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I mworried about our midfield such another get injured

we have just 3 fit cm players at the club,,, that is unheard of

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Don't worry yourself mate, it won't do yourself any good.

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Be like everyone else on here and just worry about spurs.

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28 Aug 2013 18:50:39
Just heard that spurs are about to bid for eriksen and looking like that our typical owners and ayre has missed out another good player whom is going to strengthen another rival - At this rate we will be battling for 5th and 6th place yet again.

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If everyone is strengthning and we ain't that's bound to happen.

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Agreed, looks like the talent is going elsewhere while we apparently just watch.

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You spelled 'Waa waa waaaaa'
Incorrectly.

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Spurs are doing very well in the market but I wouldn't worry about Eriksen we don't need him, Coutinho is better.

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Has Liverpool ever expressed an confirmed interest or offer in him? Not sure it would be called missing out.

As the eds have said on more than occasion if we bought everyone that papers or fans linked us to we would have about 500 players.

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It's just our luck that Spurs get a £100M windfall. Worse still they spend it well on quality players. If only they had asked Comolli and Kenny for advice.

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28 Aug 2013 20:53:01
Look, before any of the signings of the summer what would you have said would be a decent position for Liverpool this season?
Personally I would have said 5th or 6th would be realistic but 4th would be the ambition, and how would anyone be able to disagree with evidence?
Arsenal - finished in top 4 the last 16 years, top quality cb in Vermaelen, marauding cm in Wilshere and 2 good finishers in Giroud and Podolski, the closest to us in ability.
Chelsea - Much better squad than us.
City - As above.
United - RVP world class as is Rooney, Carrick, Vidic, Rafael and Evra.
Tottenham - before the summer probably only separated from us by Bale, now however, Soldado, Paulinho, Lamela, wow, good summer and a stronger yet new squad.

Just the above shows us that there are 5 teams who should, on paper, be stronger than us! A good season will see us push top four and that's what I will be hoping for.

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If we wanted him we would have bid for him in July

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Do you ever read the posts? How many times do posts like this get through? Every time people get blasted for their ignorance. We can't sign everyone. We have a good squad already. ManU haven't really signed anyone, and they're still going to do fine. Spending for the sake of spending is useless

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Thats the spirt

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Square tomato take your logic and common sense and leave. No room for that stuff around here! Don't you know the rules!? We want eriksen an we want him now damn it!

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DavyLiver's comment is brilliant!

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28 Aug 2013 18:49:53
There was a time when as soon as my alarm went off at 4.30 each morning the first thing I would do is pick up my phone and check the rumors page but not any more, all it talks about these days is which other club's players are joining! Not even sure it should still be classed as Liverpool rumors. Sad to say as I used to love this site but I just find it frustrating now.
Carlos.

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Me too mate. 6 days to sign 3 players. don't look good.

Ynwa

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Hello? - who have Man U or Arsenal bought? We have brought it in 5 players so far, and done most of that business early so players get bedded in before season starts. Maybe you should do a bit of research before your next post.

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Janman, clearly u didn't read my post as if u had u would have realized there was no complaint whatsoever about Liverpool or any of our buys so far, but an actual moan about the lfc rumours page! I go on there hoping to read about rumors concerning lfc true or not I don't care atleast it gives me hope, what I don't want to read about on an lfc rumor page is who eveybody else is signing because I'm not bloody interested!
Carlos

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28 Aug 2013 18:43:59
whats going on allen is named in the welsh squad

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Is he not welsh sir!

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28 Aug 2013 18:27:47
We seem to be intent on making our 'marquee' signing an attacking option, such as our interest in Mkhitaryan, Costa and Willian. I was just wondering about Javier Pastore? He's by no means a guaranteed starter at PSG with their wealth of talent and I think he'd suit us down to the ground if the money's right. Cheers boys great job through this window.

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28 Aug 2013 18:27:36
im sure BR will sign a CB for sure now, its just picking the right one, things don't happen over night. I also think our team is a big improvement from last year, getting there slowly but surely. YNWA
ed30 do you agree

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Ha good one.

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28 Aug 2013 18:21:12
Time to raid Ajax.
Those boys already look good in red.

-trs

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28 Aug 2013 18:03:21
Im wondering where this transfer window is going to end up.
We looked nailed on to sign Mkhitaryan and that went astray whether it be due to agents or whatever went wrong with the fee etc. We looked like although I think a lot of it was rumours like getting Costa, he then signs a new deal. We looked nailed on to sign Willian, only for Spurs and then as its turned out Chelsea to step in, we've been linked with Sakho, Erikson, Aldeirweld, Illori, Atsu, Turan(again), Mata, Moses, Begovic, etc etc etc, Ok, so lots of these are the usual newspaper and twitter started rumours and some of these are no doubt agents putting players in the shop window to start an auction but who ARE we actually after? or are we really going to bother at all?
Now I personally think we should give the lads a chance and see where it takes us till January especially if Suarez stays but my main problem would be with the squad itself, we seem to have a let a fair few players go and I know we've replaced a few of those with Alberto etc but we do seem to be a little thin on the ground still,
By Monday we'll all know the outcome of this window and we'll either be flabbergasted that we've not strengthened or we'll be jubilant at some piece of genius in the transfer market, either way we need to give the lads some support on the pitch,
Its not the young lads like Ibe and Sterlings problem if we fail in the transfer market and its also not the problem of the eleven being picked as they can only do what their paid to do. play football, But if we raise the roof and make Anfield a cauldron like it was in the past then we can maybe push these lads on to greater things,
By Monday this site will be in meltdown one way or another. EDS. You have my sympathies lol!
YNWA JFT96

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If Suarez stays, I wouldn't expect much of anything to happen to be honest. Something like a Moses loan plus maybe Ilori. I think Sakho is probably out of our budget and ability to guarantee playing time to so long as Skrtel stays.

If the rumour is true and we're looking at Honda on a free in January that would be a good bit of business. Would love to see us push for a pre-contract with Konoplyanka as well for January if his contract is indeed up in December as well (surely worth a punt on a free?).

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It's likely going to end up one of two ways.

The first is we loan or buy a couple of more average players such as Moses and lose out of top four. The other is that our skint owners sell their wives to some rich Arabs and we buy some quality such as Sahko & Turan/Mata/Koloplanka (i do believe Mata was linked with us in the past, correct me if i'm wrong).

Like it or hate it, quality typically comes at a premium (there are exceptions).

We know in past transfer windows we have wasted a lot of money. But you would think that with there being a higher belief in the team this year, a massive amount shifted off the wage bill AND a top four place being a must have, you would think this would be the year to give the financial backing that Bucky requires.

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My views match with RDL's. It looks increasingly likely that Suarez will stay and I only expect a squad defender and a low profile forward.

At the moment, Ilori and Moses on loan are the most likeliest to sign.

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28 Aug 2013 18:01:46
Sighhhhhh, don't expect any big signings in this transfer window. Melwoods lights will be off and the office closed early, ssn are not even sending a reporter to Melwood on deadline day. All the best.

KNEE JERK

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Look on the bright side. We are £4.5M to the good in our transfer dealings, and because we have fewer players we will save on wages too! Yippee {Ed023's Note - Is that you Mr Henry? How nice of you to drop by lol}

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Source?

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28 Aug 2013 18:49:05
sakho on his way by friday

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Sakho on his way friday

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Told you this weeks ago that FSG won't sign anyone else its all about cutting wage bill an selling the club trust me on this.

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Knee Jerk

If you already know what's happening on Monday which is 5 days away. could tell me Fridays Euro Lottery numbers which is in only 2 days lol

cheers in advance

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Ed23 did you just lol your own comment? {Ed023's Note - No, the comment of course}

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28 Aug 2013 17:58:18
take mata on loan will be good deal, we do need him. who agrees {Ed030's Note - If you was Chelsea would you want to loose arguable you're best player on a loan deal?,If they get rid I really,Really doubt it will be a loan. }

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Lets put a offer in, proven player too.

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In probably Chelsea's most important game of the Premier League, Manchester United vs Chelsea at Old Trafford, Mata was an unused substitute.
If we are interested I think we would have to offer Luis Suarez for Mata and some cash just to get Chelsea's attention.
Would people be willing to do that?

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I was joking about the tv part. All the best.

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28 Aug 2013 17:57:42
Liverpool are odds-on (2/5) to sign Andriy Yarmolenko from Dynamo Kyiv, with Arsenal out to 16/1 for the Ukrainian forward. See all our transfer odds here.

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Looks like we may have finally found the solution to our Left sided goal scoring midfielder.

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Odds mean nothing

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No it just means that people are betting on it to happen, not that it will actually happen.

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Ssssshhh, don't tell anyone til he's fully signed

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Odds can be driven by newspaper rumours. And we all know what they count for.

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28 Aug 2013 17:48:38
Is it true we do not have a marquee signing in mind? Sorry but the way Spurs are spending along with City and Chelsea Europa is the best we can hope for. Fighting for one place with Man U and Arsenal! FSG just ain, t rich enough to compete and Rodgers job will be in danger at the end of the season even though his hands are tied, hasn, t spent anything really considering what we made in sales! Joke!

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Is this a NOT! joke?

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28 Aug 2013 17:47:53
William Gallas is a free agent. Given Liverpool's defensive injury problems, wouldn't be a bad signing. {Ed030's Note - No thanks,We have enough injured defenders at the moment. }

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I really hope we sign someone considering long term future, not a short term fix.
No offense to Toure, he has been a wonderful addition.

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28 Aug 2013 17:37:56
£26M for Lamela! Surely Liverpool should try and hi-jack this deal! With £4M in bonus if he plays well.
Come on Ayre, Spurs have done us over before! Now it's our turn! Surely we can afford it?
Both of us have no CL either, and Europe league isn't anything to boast about.
Lamela, Countinho, Suarez, Sturridge!
If only.
Instead Spurs will get him :(
If they do, we really need to sign a quality player so we can compete! {Ed030's Note - How can you hijack a done deal?,Or isn't it a done deal and it's all part of a big smokescreen?

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Spurs are buying well and look stronger that last season top 4s not looking good still think we need 2-3 players and not just average ones like Moses

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Gets worse they've also made an offer for Eriksen by all accounts, we probably end up with rubbish like Moses.

Wonderful.

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28 Aug 2013 17:37:37
I've supported HHenderson from day 1. So glad he's doing so well now. One of my favourite players

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Im not guna lie, it's not like I hated/disliked the signin of Henderson, but I did question it to myself. I thought he was a good player at Sunderland and he did shine in his last season for his age.

As I mentioned, I did question the signin as I wondered really what we were guna do with him, but as I do with every Liverpool player, I supported him and believed in him and hoped something would pay off, for me, it began against Manchester City in the Carling Cup the year we won it, everyone had been slatin him for months, he played in that game and he ran his socks off, up top of pitch, runnin back, fillin in where was needed, that proved to me he was willin to put the work in, to prove he wanted to be at Liverpool. Personal opinion, since that day he has excelled and there's so much more to come from the lad, I noticed he was all over the pitch against Stoke aswell, still working hard and provin himself, he was the U21 captain until recently when he became too old, but Henderson is guna be top quality!

Did anyone else notice that he had a look over at Brendan last night when he scored the 4th? I think he really needed that goal, all be it against Notts County, but a goal's a goal, let's hope its a confidence boost for him and he bag's a few more.

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He scores some great goals. If he can get that consistency he'll be top notch.

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28 Aug 2013 17:31:25
M sakho 8-10m or t llori 6m
C erikson 12-14m
And A Turan 18-20

Not sure we have the money but would make the team a lot stronger think we look weak I centre mid if we lost Gerrard or Lucas to injury

Talk of Moses on loan not sure this is going to make the team any better as I can see him as a bench warmer

T alderweiled story's mite come back as his cheap and can fill in at right back as glen is pretty poor at times but m Kelly is on his way back but think maybe he mite get moved to centre back as wisdom looks a lot better at right back

Oh maybe a cheeky bid for lukaku but can't see that coming of would be a great one

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Erikson is talking to spurs.

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I'll take

M Sakho £10m-£12m
Andre Ayew £11m
K Honda £5m

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28 Aug 2013 17:24:25
Another good signing by spurs on paper wonder if he can adjust to the league

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Just sit back and watch how the cookie crumbles!

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28 Aug 2013 16:41:15
Navjyot, CC, and others asking for a fair amount of money to be spend on targets- you do realize that if FSG were to 'spend big' what that effectively translates to is additional debt on the club, right? Is that really what you want?

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Hmmm so another year outside CL would not hurt the clubs finances. Yeah makes sense to me.

Mark my words those of you that are blindly thinking everything the club does is good are going to cry in the end. Simple fact at the moment is Man City, Man U, Chelsea and Spurs have great squads at the moment. Arsenal have the funds to make their squad great. That is us at best finishing 6th. The worrying thing for me is even Southampton have the finances to overtake us. They tried buying big this summer but failed and when they get a decent finish in the PL this season we will welcome mid-table mediocrity for years to come.

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Well Najyot, if you're right then surely all fans will be crying in the end. Or will those that are always so negative have a smug satisfaction if the club fails. that's weird.

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Couldn't help but notice you didn't actually answer my question. I take that as you'd be fine with Liverpool accruing additional debt for the sake of a few 'marquee signings' that might (emphasis on might) lead us to top 4.

I'm not saying that is an invalid point of view, by the way, but it is not an approach I personally think is wise (particularly considering we're already likely to add to the debt substantially in the next few years to fund the stadium expansion).

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28 Aug 2013 16:48:38
Any truth in the rumors of Real Betis midfielder Benat making a £15m move to Anfield {Ed030's Note - No. }

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28 Aug 2013 16:44:56
Swansea resign defender Dwight Tiendalli. Is Ashley Williams on the move? {Ed030's Note - Tiendalli is a full back. }

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28 Aug 2013 16:43:30
This may be a stupid question and I am sorry if it is but does the game yesterday count as a game for Suarez in his ban? or was it 10 Premier league game bans? Also is it 4 more games he is banned for?
Cheers, {Ed030's Note - Yeah mate,It counts. }

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Isn't it 3 more games? no

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3 more games

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28 Aug 2013 16:30:55
GFN France: "We reaffirm what we said 10 days ago that Liverpool have made a €9m bid for Mamadou Sakho which was rejected."

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As Ed002 suggests, he would be an excellent addition, if LFC can pull this deal off!

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28 Aug 2013 16:06:06
In all honesty, does anyone think we will sign another attacking player before the window closes? I can see a CB coming in, and while we all have fingers crossed for Sakho, I would feel more confident if there was more activity on ESPN or ssn.

I think the Moses rumour is the most likely, if any attacker at all. Mata would obviously be unbelievable, but that will never happen.

My gut is telling me we won't sign any more attackers or midfielders, but Rodgers will hail the keeping of Suarez as brilliant piece of business.

Coop

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I think Moses might sign.

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28 Aug 2013 16:05:19
Afternoon eds, hope all is well. Two things, firstly, iv heard rumours that Chelsea have said to Liverpool that mata is available for £30m and apparently mata is also interested in the move. And secondly, also heard jose mourinho has dropped interest in Rooney and is looking to sign Suarez for £30m plus Moses & Torres! Is there any truth in the rumours?

Cheers. Y.N.W.A {Ed030's Note - I doubt we will see Mata or Torres at Liverpool come 3rd of August. }

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If that was the case we'd just swap Suarez for Mata, Moses & Torres, but that's not going to happen I'm affraid.

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I don't see the point of resigning Torres. He is clearly past his best.
Better if some of us move on!

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Ed, please tell me that not including Moses in your response was an oversight. Would really love for us to be able to show a little sign of intent. {Ed030's Note - Don't worry,It's just because I haven't a clue what's going on with Moses. }

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You're right ed but a years a long time in football 2nd of September though may be a stretch {Ed030's Note - Haha. }

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28 Aug 2013 16:00:45
how come spurs have no cl but can still sign top players but if we try and sign the media even start saying we don't stand much of a chance as we have no cl now has something changed and we r not seen as attractive team to play for than the likes of spurs r are they offering more wages than us.cheers eds keep up the great work silly season is nearly over.lets hope we r not moaning about missed targets r that damned spurs next week.

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The simple thing is we don't like to pay what the selling club asks for and second thing is the stupid performance based contracts we are handing about.
It is good theoratically but footballers simply want straight forward contracts.

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The media lick spurs arse, they always have done.

It's not all about CL football, the money from bale has allowed spurs to pay the clubs there valuations of there players.

And I'd have thought nice agent fees and nice wages.

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28 Aug 2013 15:59:12
Nobody can argue after last night, Johnson is the least effective player on the field.
Both he and Wisdom ****ed up for the second goal, and his forward play consistently brought attacks to a total end.
Given he spends more time in and around the box than 90% of midfielders his goals and assists record should be much higher.
Versatile? Yes, flashy? Definitely, effective? Perhaps not.
I'm not slagging off a player for the sake of it, when was the last wicked ball Johnson whipped in from the right/left?
Guy attempts 2 or 3 screamers a game and scores maybe 2-3 a year.
For me, massive weak link.

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28 Aug 2013 21:36:28
Agreed

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28 Aug 2013 15:58:44
So, from what I can gather from rumours, Bale is going to Madrid, and every other European star is going to Tottenham. Hopefully they will leave someone for us to sign.

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28 Aug 2013 15:52:41
Question for the eds, not directly Liverpool related but somewhat. Why has Toby Alderweireld not moved at this point? He seems like a high quality player from a CL club and the numbers thrown around in terms of transfer cost 8mmish don't seem that excessive. I know he turned down Norwich City, but do the better teams not rate him for some reason? or are his wage demands just way over the top?

Just surprised a guy with the talent he appears to have to a non-scout like me, can't find a team that is interested.

Thanks. {Ed030's Note - He's a very good player but Ajax are always difficult no negotiate with and he's still relatively young. }

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Didn't Ajax agree a deal with Norwichfor Toby earlier Ed? I seem to recollect that he rejected Norwich's advances to sign him. {Ed030's Note - They may have done mate. }

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28 Aug 2013 15:50:53
Hi eds is there any chance of us signing Kroos from bayern I believe he would be a quality addition? {Ed030's Note - None whatsoever. }

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Why would he come to us?

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28 Aug 2013 15:35:38
are Liverpool still interested in eriksen. it has been reported that he would be available for 10m euro. I think he would be a real bargain at that price

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My bet in he comes to England would be spurs really shame class young player and cheap :(

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28 Aug 2013 14:30:41
I'm going to ask you eds if you'd be willing to stick your neck out and say whether you THINK we'll sign a CB and if so who? A player discussed previously or someone else perhaps?

Thanks, {Ed030's Note - Possibly Sakho,Just my opinion though. }

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We won't get Sakho. PSG will want too high a fee as they don't need to sell, and there's no way we'll pay it!

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28 Aug 2013 15:18:36
"Keisuke Honda will move to the Premier League this summer, and he is very close to agreeing a free transfer to Liverpool". According to reports in Milan!

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Never going to happen!

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28 Aug 2013 15:17:54
Just think we need to lash out 25 - 28m and get in four players.

Toby alderweiled is available for £7.5m (price Norwich agreed with Ajax)

Christian Ericksen £10m (Ajax want this as a minimum according to De Telegraaf)

Mahmadou Sakho £10m

Victor Moses - Loan

That would enable LFC to really push on for a top three position, not top four.

Imagine a front 6 of

Gerrard
Ericksen
Coutinho
Suarez
Sturridge
Moses

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Imagine the goals that front six would leak

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28 Aug 2013 15:14:43
would anyone be surprised if Atsu' agent as trying to regain interest in his client by leaking Chelsea' interest?

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28 Aug 2013 15:11:53
This week's pre-match report, can't wait for Sunday!:

Rodgers' Reds Defeat Devils (Couldn't think of a word play)

Liverpool 3-1 Manchester United
(Sturridge 37", Henderson 82", 90+4")(Van Persie 51")

Liverpool's new signing Mahmadou Sakho watched on with delight as his new club roared to their fourth win in four games this season, thanks just as much to a beautifully taken brace from Jordan Henderson, as the France international's fellow centre back Andre Wisdom.

Liverpool looked the stronger of the two sides for much of the game, but late on, with the game hanging in the balance, youngster Wisdom defended out of his skin to win the Reds the biggest match in English football.

Both teams came out of the blocks rather slowly, with nothing worth much mention in the dire first 20 minutes of the encounter. But soon enough Liverpool found their feet and started to dominate possession of the ball as well as creating plenty of chances.

The first shot on goal came midway through the first half- Aspas allowing the ball to run through his legs for an onrushing Steven Gerrard, only for the Liverpool captain's stinging drive to be flicked over the top of the crossbar by David De Gea.

Another oppurtunity presented itself to the home side from the following corner, but Daniel Agger's headed effort found its way just wide of the target.

United started to creep back into the game, and following Lucas' foul on Cleverley, Simon Mignolet had to make a great stop from Wayne Rooney's dipping free-kick. Yesterday's was in fact another top performance from the Belgian stopper, following his great start to the season.

Just as the match was starting to really come to life, Liverpool burst into the lead courtesy of man-in-form Daniel Sturridge.

Mignolet's long ball forward found Sturridge with his back to goal. Laying off the ball to Steven Gerrard, the England striker broke into a run in behind the United defence. And when his skipper naturally found him, Sturridge charged towards David De Gea before gently brushing his way around him and slamming his fith goal of the new season into the Manchester United goal.

David Moyes' new side did however, bounce back well to going behind, and perhaps Tom Cleverley should have reacted quicker when he blocked Daniel Agger's attempted clearance, but just as he was about to strike, Wisdom snatched the ball of his left boot.

The away side then felt they should have had a penalty on the stroke of half time, but Andre Marriner waved play on as Antonio Valencia was brought down with a crunching tackle from Gerrard. In retrospect though, Marriner's decision does seem to have been the correct one.

Either way, it only took five minutes of the second half, for Moyes to watch his team grab the equaliser which had been coming.

Antonio Valencia beat Jose Enrique far to easily and turned a ball into Rooney, whose genius dummy let the ball meet Robin Van Persie's charge at the perfect moment, and the United talisman smashed into the top corner from just inside the penalty area.

Liverpool's poor start to the second half continued and they were caught sleeping once more as Patrice Evra broke forward from left-back and with no-one to challenge him the former French captain, could almost glide into the area, only for Mignolet to make another great stop, down low to his right.

Daniel Sturridge then pulled Liverpool back into the game almost on his own. A rasping shot that seemed to come from an impossible distance forced De Gea into an acrobatic save and suddenly the momentum had switched sides once again, and Liverpool seemed to regain their concentration.

In fact following the Sturridge shot there was a ten minute spell of non-stop Liverpool pressure.

First Coutinho came close with an inventive flick from Aspas' corner, then Andre Wisdom saw his bullet header cleared of the line in between two strikes from Jordan Henderson and Lucas Leiva respectively which both demanded great reflexes from United's young Spanish keeper.

But in the 81st minute, an all too familiar story seemed set to be retold.

Phil Jones- who did an amazing job of marking Phillipe Coutinho out the game- flew forward, evading challenges from both Aspas and Enrique before dinking a delightful ball into the path of Robin Van Persie. the Dutchman's classy control took him around Simon Mignolet with the ball glued to his foot and he was about to roll in the winner when a game-saving sliding tackle from Andre Wisdom forced the ball out for a corner.

After Wisdom had deflected Vidic's header behind from the first corner, Sturridge nailed his header out of danger from the second. Liverpool broke forward as Iago Aspas picked up the loose ball and looking round he picked out the run of Jordan Henderson down Liverpool's right-wing.
The Spaniard's ball was inch-perfect allowing Henderson to come onto it, in his stride, just past the halfway line. He then knocked it past the last man- Tom Cleverley and, one-on-one with David De Gea, slid the ball into bottom right hand corner before throwing himself into the ecstatic Kop itself.

Wisdom then produced the goods once again to block Wayne Rooney's attempt out for a corner, and then climb in front of Nemanja Vidic to head clear. But still United pressed, and Mignolet could only push Welbeck's bullet of a shot out for yet another corner for the away side and with three of the four injury time minutes played, up came the goalkeeper.

But Van Persie's delivery failed to beat the first man, Aspas, and he flicked the ball forward where once again Henderson showed the most passion to pick up the loose ball. And it was a simple enough task for him to drive forward ahead of the chasing pack and slot his second goal of the game into an empty net.

Anfield erupted in adoration for the former Sunderland man who after a tough first season is starting to really settle in to life on Merseyside and, following Spurs' 1-1 draw in the North London derby, he has put the reds top of the table.

Liverpool: Mignolet 8; Johnson 6, Wisdom 9, Agger 7, Enrique 5; Gerrard 8, Lucas 7; Henderson 9, Coutinho 6 (Sterling 77"), Aspas 6; Sturridge 8 (Skrtel 90").

Thoughts and feelings appreciated!

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Change Wisdom to Skrtel ;> Also, I expect a good match from Aspas!

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I can confirm that Andre Wisdom is a fan of this site.

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28 Aug 2013 15:11:30
Just trying to work out how chairmen work. Daniel Levy is hands on and goes out to meet players (a la Ericksen, Lamela et al) and presumably sell the club to them.

Tom Werner, from my knowledge doesn't do this, when was the last time we heard Tom Werner going out to sell Liverpool to a player. i'm not sure its ever happened.

Chairmen should be the face of the club, unfortunately ours are on another continent most of the time.

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Werner doesn't need to worry about that. Remember we've enough money to compete with anyone and they work tirelessly behind the scenes

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28 Aug 2013 14:52:00
Reports from Millan saying Honda free transfer to Liverpool hope its true

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28 Aug 2013 14:26:20
Are we close to signing Honda eds? {Ed030's Note - No idea,Doubt it though. }

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28 Aug 2013 14:24:16
last night, for the first time in a long time, I wasn't thinking 'we're going to blow it' in extra time, like we potentially would have done last season - personally, for me, that's a big step in the right direction.
Injuries happen, there's nothing we can do about that, but 'steel' in the team is something that was missing last season, that seems to be there this season. I believe that when our backs are against the wall, BR has found a way to get more out of the team - I'm proud of the way we put two more past them last night in XT. With that said, this weeks game against MU will be electric. It looks like the Skertallator will be back in for the game, with Wisdom and Kelly providing backup. I think Skrtel will surprise us all with a strong performance this weekend, he is desperate to get back into the side. hendo is on fire at the moment, SG always plays well against the mancs and sturridge is in the form of his life. If moyes goes with vidic and rio as his 2 CBs, I can see our front three doing some damage.
bring on sunday! YNWA!

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You know, come to think of it, it was the same with me - I was exasparated with the injury of Kolo (other two won't be such a hindrance if they are not long-term), but I was never afraid we were actually going to lose. Worst case scenario was penalties, where I felt confident Mignolet would do a fine job.

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28 Aug 2013 13:35:26
sterling and ibe were good last night but also annoying sturrjdge took up good positions waiting for the final ball I think br needs to tell the lads give the easy ball instead of DIY but ok game in general

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Agree but I don't like the fact that at one point the mic clearly picked up Sturridge having a go at one of them (2nd half) as there were opportunities for Sturridge to play people in, which he declined.
The lads on fire and all credit to him but he still has to maintain that awareness of others around him.

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28 Aug 2013 13:25:37
Hi eds and reds, I thought sterling did really well last night, he scored a good goal, ran at defenders really well and worked really hard during the whole 120 mins even at right back. For me he out shone ibe yesterday, what's your thoughts on him guys, even if we don't get a left winger, I reckon if he plays like that when the chances come, we will do well.

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Couldn't agree more, in pre-season I thought Ibe looked considerably better than Sterling but on the evidence of yesterday's game I really think the talent that he has is beginning to shine through and hopefully will continue to push on for a place in the starting 11.

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28 Aug 2013 13:13:27
The result tonight is good, a few have already been getting way ahead of themselves after our start to the season. This result (or rather the manner of it) will help bring a few people back to reality. We have the makings of a quality team - unfortunately we are still a fair few players short. Even more unfortunate we are badly lacking in terms of squad depth. Long way to go this season, 4th an outside possibility, anything higher stuff. Hope we get a few re-enforcements in before the window shuts, we need them.

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28 Aug 2013 13:13:16
so atsu looks like he is heading to Chelsea for 3-4m. Weren't we quoted something like 6-7m for him? Seems like the 'big' clubs are in a position to get cheaper deals done and we are not! Not sure why we are not in the loop with Atsu - he fits the FSG and BR mould and looks like an exciting, fast, tricky player who would provide much needed pace out wide.

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Quite simple, Atsu is not an improvement on Sterling or Ibe.

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From what I've seen he is very one dimensional and final ball not very good, if he wants to go and sit on Chelsea's bench then that's fine, better than wasting a salary on out bench!

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When we were pursuing the signing of Atsu, I remember one of the Eds said his "expert" friend expressed surprise that Liverpool was going after a "Fulham" class player. Now what? He's going to Chelsea for less than 5 million. Interesting, isn't it?

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28 Aug 2013 17:08:06
Leave it out, he was a waste of money 2 months ago!

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Hes no better than Sterling or Ibe are right now. Let Chelsea have him where no doubt he will be either loaned out or sold within 2/3 years as he is not good enough to get into there 1st 11.

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I don't understand the atsu to chelsea I'm pretty sure he won't be first choice there I don't see why they would want him iv looked him up a few times looks similar to moses bit faster maybe will be another marin if he goes there I'd rather have marin over atsu and marin couldn't get a game for them unless the spurs fans are right there taking there targets as they are scared of them lol can't see it myself but who knows

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Was thinking I'm sure the spurs fans are happier with lamela than atsu though spurs got a good player there chelsea get a reserve I'm certain the spurs fans are the happier of the 2 ill be interested to see how lamela gets on in the epl

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28 Aug 2013 13:05:07
hi eds and fellow reds, we are linked to different players every day of the week with br saying he hoped to make 2 more signings before the window closes, yet is it just me r does anyone else think?including yourself ed that we have no money at all to sign any more players br is looking to do loan deals is this the sign that there is no money there, like he seemingly fancied that player atsu who would of solved are left wing problem yet he wouldn pay 3.5million for this lad now according to the media todat Chelsea are going to sign him and we are going to try sign moses on a year long loan. {Ed001's Note - I don't think it is anything to do with money, loan deals end up working out more expensive most of the time. It is more about just giving time for a good youngster to become ready.}

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We must have some cash didn't we bid over 20m for William the other day? {Ed030's Note - No one knows how far our interest went,I thought it was just discussions. }

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28 Aug 2013 12:42:10
I think a bright point last night was luis albertos passing. Now he's not the quickest and does need to bulk up like coutinho did, but he slipped so many clever passes last night, he has a lot of work to do but I can see simlarities with busquets or even a very raw Xabi alonso.

Just a thought you agree Eds or Reds {Ed001's Note - not for me, I thought he was struggling but it is early days and he is still bedding in.}

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I thought Alberto looked good, for me he is going to be better than Shelvey was for us and that's who he has replaced, very slick on the ball and his first touch is amazing

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I though his passing was very good. Always moving into space to receive the ball and he always checked to see what was around him. I can only describe his pace as 'languid'

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Thought his passing range looks good, needs to get his physique up a bit, but a bit of confidence and once he picks up the pace of the English game he could be a shrewd investment.

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I also liked his passing, but he still needs to read the movement of other players - also, his passes are sharp, but just lack the "killer" edge. I see him more like a Coutnho/Suso type, not a midfield playmaker - Allen owned that position in the first half anyways.
I am fairly optimistic about Alberto though, I think he will bloom into a magnificent capture if he can develop the necessary physique - I see him and Borini as deadly alternatives pushing Sturro and Cou for spaces in a few years time!

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28 Aug 2013 12:34:04
Hi guys,
I've been thinking about the "Left-Sided" players who are available and the prices being quoted for them. Eg, Lamela & Willian for around £30M.
However I think we should buy someone like Mata for that price, IF it was possible and continue to play Countinho on the left (its not been bad so far has it?)
So with a POSSIBLE front 4 of Suarez, Mata, Countinho, Sturridge. It reminds me of City when they won the league. Aguero, Tevez, Silva & Nasri. It is very fluid, everyone can interchange positions in that attack, it would be a nightmare for the other teams!
Anybody think that would be good?

Although, I doubt we will get Mata, but my point is a player similar to him would be a good signing, instead of looking solely at pacey left wingers.
Cheers :)

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A Turan then?

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28 Aug 2013 12:29:06
Many people are complaining on how Liverpool have been this season. What they don't understand is that it is a good thing that even when you don't play well you can still pull through and bag all three points. Manchester United have been doing it for years. It is a sign that things are working out for us this season.

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28 Aug 2013 15:23:47
No complaints in it. Absolutly delighted to see us winning, But this doesn't last forever, and we shouldn't be overconfident about this.
Form and Luck is Temperory, But Class and Quality is Permenant.

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28 Aug 2013 12:12:29
Ed's, is it correct that the winners of the league cup get into the Europa League for 2014/2015 season, and the winners of the Europa League from 2015 on will automatically get into the Champions League?

If this is correct I'd expect to see managers of the top teams to start fielding stronger teams in the cup competitions this season. (I know people will say we should only focus on a top 4 spot, but the top 6 are getting stronger and stronger, all avenues to the CL should be followed) {Ed001's Note - yes.}

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28 Aug 2013 12:06:09
Hi eds, with the injury to kolo toure last night I imagine Liverpool's first thought will be to sign a new centreback before sunday, with sakho and Ilori being the names mentioned. But throughout the summer Liverpool have been looking for a left sided attacking player with mkhytarian and willian sliping our grasps who do you suppose they will consider. I can't think of many world class attackers who we could sign. I thought we should have moved for Lamela, but he has gone to tottenham. Who else is there? Possibly Yarmolenko? {Ed001's Note - off the top of my head, I can't think of anyone at all. I am sure the scouts will have identified some potential targets though.}

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Ed001 are you are you confident we'll bring in someone for that particular position? {Ed001's Note - I have long ago accepted that the less confident I say I am, the more chance it will happen. On that basis, no, not in the slightest confident!}

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Hello Ed,
will you please post any news of the 3 injuries suffered last night if and when you get any updates?
Early rumours suggesting Toure out for a month, Allen for 2 weeks and Cissokho should be back for Swansea. {Ed001's Note - it looks like Allen's is a hamstring, just waiting to find out how severe it is. Cissokho looks like a knock, fingers crossed, so he shouldn't be out long, though we won't know for sure until he has his scan. Toure's is a groin injury, hopefully just a strain, in which case he will be back at the weekend, but it is more likely to be a tear, in which case it is a month to 6 weeks. We should find out more tomorrow.}

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People keep mentioning Yarmolenko and Konoplyanka. Either would be great but the lack of interest shown so far over the summer makes it very clear that we are not after them so you should forget it. Moses, Ayew and maybe Capel look the only possible candidates for the LF position, if any. Ilori looks likely for CD and if Toure is a long-term injury then we may try for Sakho as well and look to move Skrtel on in January. Apart from that only Eriksen remains as a possibility if we get desperate for some reason, which we have yet to do under BR. Incredibly unlikely though as it would mean keeping Coutinho on the left with Eriksen through the middle.

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Is it too unrealistic to think Liverpool could sell Luis Suarez to Chelsea for Juan Mata and enough money to pay Arda Turan's buyout clause?

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What about Lukaku and Mata for Suarez I would take that.

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Possibly Thauvin ed? {Ed001's Note - no idea sorry.}

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28 Aug 2013 11:55:30
Having read all the negative posts on here after last nights game I think some one should just come out and say it, sack Brendan.
I mean after all its not like he's won his first three games of the season, reduced the wage bill significantly, brought in players which have improved the squad for under market values, made a profit on transfers and brought an attractive and exciting brand of football to the club. Oh wait a minute he has, maybe we should get behind the bloody team then you depressing naysayers!

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People are hardly complaining about Brendan Rodgers. Its just that this window has been heart breaking. This was the final window before FFP kicks in and most teams know that and have went hell for leather to buy quality players at good prices. I never expected us to spend 80-90M on transfers like City & Chelsea but expected a good 30-40M (net) to be spent on quality.
Secondly, look at some of the buys for example Luis Alberto for 6M. I am not a hater of this kid and he may well go on to be a good player for the club. But just calmly think did we need him especially having Suso and Texiera in the acadamy who are of similar age. You may say it helps them to go out on loan but what next season?
They will come back and want to be a part of our squad so what to do with Alberto? Sell him after one season.
And lastly before you mention that Arsenal and ManU have hardly brought in players. Think about a simple thing one team is well up for FFP and the other is the current PL champion just needing a CM or 2 and maybe a winger that's it.

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Hoody you are absolutely right - whilst the squad is just a little thin for my liking, I don't care about marquee signings - what I want are players who will play the way Rogers wants. The quality of football has been excellent/nerve wracking in equal measure - the team gets the plaudits if they play well and Rodgers/Allan gets it tight if the team suffer in the second half - I feel more optimistic this season than in a long time due to the standard of our play. What we will never get rid of is the negative posters who honestly think they could do better but safely know they will never get the chance - roll on Sunday - whatever the result I will always back my team

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brendan is doing a good job - 3 wins out of 3 and playing top football. I really don't understand what peoples problem is.

Yes we have missed out on some targets but at the end of day without champs league and no Europe you have to expect some targets will go elsewhere. Not Brendans fault!

We are light in numbers in some areas we all know that but as a club we are moving forward all the time. get behind the manager, players and club and look forward to an exciting season.

Top 4 is a real possibility this year.

Still time in the transfer window so hoping for some quality additions

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Not at all BR is doing the best job he can with the resources he has available. The problem I feel the club have are the owners failing to have aambition and moving the club foreword.

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Well said

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Good post, except made a profit on transfers. Carroll. Downing. {Ed001's Note - we have not made a profit on transfers.}

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Brendan Rodgers is not the problem. He is in fact a great manager. The problem is he is notbeing backed with transfer targets. Most fans with half a brain can see a couple of players of the Willian and Mickey caliber would see us mount a series top four challenge. But it's not happening at this point.

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28 Aug 2013 11:34:16
With the injury to Kolo toure last night and with skrtel and Coates out do you see Liverpool upping their pursuit of a centre back such as sakho or if they have anyone else in mind that isn't alderwield?

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Skrtel is not out, he is fit for the weekend.

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28 Aug 2013 11:27:22
not quite Liverpool related, I did rate willian, however chelsea swooped him from totters, I feel totters fans will just be complaining about chelsea stealing their targets however that's what they did to us last year with dempsey and sig, I think blessing in disguise to, so it is a bit ironic, still do chelsea need all these players?

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28 Aug 2013 11:26:45
Harry Scousser just accused me of supporting LFC players.

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And regarding my post, Yours ain't better, Its just with a caption " support allen borini "

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Tell me Harry, who should I support then? Last I checked, Allen and Borini were LFC players, who try their best fro LFC, despite their injury problems and people like you slagging them off at every possible opportunity. So, I support them because they are LFC players.

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I wouldn't waste your breath, AG. Unfortunately there is a growing group of people on this site who are using the transfer fees of players who haven't had the best start to their LFC careers as a stick to beat them down with. It's a crying shame considering said players are incredibly young and are probably having confidence issues.

LFC supposed to be a family? If that 'family feeling' was taken off this website alone it would have been on Jeremy Kyle a long time ago.

Ah well, there are some of us left who will keep cheering for them.

JFT 96

JP

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28 Aug 2013 13:00:41
its the likes of suarez deserves the treatment allen and borini get from so called fans like harry.

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Harrys posts just get more depressing.
3 wins out of 3 and we still have to hide the razor blades.

A shoddy fan only supports us when we are winning and slags us off when we lose or draw but Harry can't even support us when we win.

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28 Aug 2013 15:36:22
Ed Pls Post this this is Myself Through and Through.

JFT96,

Sir, If your post was at me, then you are mistaken.
I haven't slated any player who has performed consistently well for our club regardless of their price tag. But yes When you watch football and you have some knowledge in it, you identify mistakes in the game.
Its been more than 5 years Glen Johnson with us, He has been shocking defender for us, Average at its best. Would you like to give him extra 3 years to prove himself?
There is nothing related to confidence Issue here, Most of the Players have been getting enormous amount of playing time and some have been below poor.
Liverpool Fc has always been a Family and I don't think we need to prove that here.
I am 100% sure, you wouldn't mind we missing out from the Cl this seaosn, As for you sir, It was a work in progress, It is a work in Progress and it will remain a work in progress.

My fellow mates always ask me why you being a Liverpol Supporter?. we don't win, we ain't in CL, we don't have super Players. Niether I am born at Liverpool.

The Last time I was with my fella collegue I saw this Funny Picture " Son to Dad : what comes after 18?, The Dad Replies : No Idea son, we are Liverpool Supporter.

Those Kinda Banners, Chants hurts Big time. I was never born as a scouser, Nor my grand parents belong to Mersyside. Or I have been a part of the Golden Era of 70s and 80s. The only Memmorable Thing I saw was Gerrard Lifting CL 8 years Back, Yet I buy the Kits, spend the money to watch the agme.come to this site and get the Info from Eds, share my Knowledge with you all. It was My bloody Choice to be Liverpool Fan.

No Offence, but this is a reality

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Don't sweat it my friend. Some people are just overly opinionated and unable to think anyone else has a clue but themselves.

He does say some funny stuff but just ignore it

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Stop supporting the players we have AG! Instead, support players that cost big money, may or may not fit in the squad, and that we have shown no interest in and/or have the ability to actual get.

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How Borini is getting a slating is beyond me, he didn't even feature! But scored a decent brace against united u21's. He just needs a bit of luck I reckon.

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28 Aug 2013 11:20:53
I know its a long shot but he is not playing at Madrid atm could we possibly get Varane to play CB the kid is pure class. {Ed001's Note - isn't he out injured?}

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No idea tbh ed, either way he would be a real coup if we could get him. {Ed001's Note - I am pretty sure he had a knee op and that is why he is not playing. There is absolutely no chance of us signing him.}

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28 Aug 2013 11:19:28
Hey eds, can you tell me if the Times are a reliable rumor source (Tony Barret in particular).
Thanks! {Ed001's Note - he can be, but the Times in general are no more reliable than any other paper.}

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Can't remember Tony Barret ever getting anything right about LFC.

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28 Aug 2013 11:16:11
with toure out for a month or more, will we push forward with a move for sakho or alderweirald. and with atsu close to chelsea, mata might be pushed out the door. how much would chelsea want for him?

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28 Aug 2013 11:12:51
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers is still looking for new signings before the transfer window closes. Rodgers said: "We're certainly looking at ins, we're hoping to get a few players in and that will continue right until the end of the window. There's no amount of players wanted, we're just looking to get quality players in and if we can do that, we'll be happy."

This was said after last nights game.

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Quality players at the right price, which if the summer so far is anything to go by Brendan could be left with a seriously thin first team squad.

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28 Aug 2013 11:05:16
I think it's worth pointing out that we have 3 wins in games that we were probably lucky to win.
This I feel should be highlighted, as we are not playing our best and grinding out wins, something we were totally unable to do last year.
If we get another quality forward, and step it up another notch, I can't see any reason 4th shouldn't be a realistic aim.
A team HAS to be able to grind out a victory or two over the course of the season, maybe this is the 'winning mentality' Rodgers has been shouting About.
Seems to be working!

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Exactly Dave!

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How many times have united won the league by grinding out wins by playing until the final whistle?!

Winning when off form can only be a positive really.

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28 Aug 2013 10:53:55
Rumours of Sakho are picking up. Ed02 has said there is interest but no bid as of yet - which I believe - hopefully we'll see him sign ASAP as he's leaps and bounds ahead of Ilori in terms of current ability and experience.

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Harry Scouser. there is NO "e" in Shankly.

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28 Aug 2013 10:42:58
I really cannot imagine what this place would be like if we had not WON ( yes won) the last three games.
The 11 on the field have performed admirably whilst the supposed 12th man spits his dummy out and has a paddy.
I really can't believe I am associated with fans like you.

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28 Aug 2013 10:51:57
Bill Shankley : If you don't support us when we loose or draw then don't support us when we win.

Bill shankley : If you are first, you are first. But if you are second You are nothing.

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Well said mate.

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The 12th man is the fans in the stadium, and I did not hear anything last night . the only problem is the injuries which can happen any time, just 3 at once isn't good.

Ynwa

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Spot on, Davey. It's been a hard site to read over the past few days. 3 wins out of 3 and people are still moaning. Granted, yesterday we conceded 2 goals, but people seem to forget the big clubs struggle against clubs in lower divisions, it's part of the reason these cups are so interesting. Look at what Bradford did! The only thing I will moan about is Toure's injury, I'm absolutely gutted for him. Shame Kelly isn't back to full fitness yet, I would have liked to see him in the centre with Agger on Saturday.

People need to stop lambasting the team as much as they are. It only makes us supporters look incredibly petty, especially considering we haven't dropped a point yet. Sometimes it's mind boggling.

JFT 96

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Save your breath Davey, Lee 9, JP! Harry Scousser is about anything remotely positive will be commented on poorly by him.

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28 Aug 2013 10:13:59
people getting a bit carried away with our start to the season need to look at the performances. Second half of all three games with been very poor and lucky to come away with the wins. Looking at the bench on Saturday we had nothing there to change the game. We need at least three players of good quality if not top quality to challenge for top four.

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The bottom line is, is that we won those games.

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28 Aug 2013 10:36:49
Nope. You are not supposed to be worried here.
Only optimistic people.

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Surely winning when you're not playing well is a habit we should be happy Liverpool have picked up recently? Too many times, our performance levels have dropped and we've turned wins into draws and draws into losses. So far this season, when our performance levels have dropped, we've still seen out the wins. That's a positive as far as I'm concerned.

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My only negatives are the injuries, we won the game even if it went to penalties and we still won I would still be happy.
Even if we are not there yet I can see the improvements we are now starting to grind out resluts

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It is a habit we should be about hnsnrm, but the bottom line is the game should of already been put to bed from the number of chances we accumulate.

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Apparently, none of us are supposed to be POSITIVE here according to Harry, because we only won 3 out of the 3 competitive games we played this season.

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No Mitch, the bottom-line is that we won all of the 3 competitive games we played in.

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28 Aug 2013 15:38:13
The Real AG.

I like that buddy. keep up.

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28 Aug 2013 10:12:02
Chelsea in for atsu. Just cause he wasn't good enough when we went for him. Doesn't mean that we won't have those people on here today crying about not getting him.

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28 Aug 2013 10:37:34
He is LW, why do they go for him when they have Hazard and Willian to play?

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How many attacking mids do Chelsea need?

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Ask Jose why. I got it on ssn.

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To pi$$ off Spurs?

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No atsu is a right winger

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I think Mourinho is trying to build a team in the mould of Fergies man united teams, but has lost it in translation. as he must have thought having a team full of wingers was the same as having a team full if whingers.

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28 Aug 2013 10:11:58
Never easy watching Liverpool play I don't think I have any nails this morning.

I must say I was impressed with Ibe and Sterling but I know they are both still very young but there were many times that a simple pass would have cut Notts wide open but they were trying to go through 3 people and they weren't the only ones guilty of that.

but very promising proformances from a 18 and 17 year old. big things for those two once they get their heads up.

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28 Aug 2013 10:38:18
Spot on. Sterling especially was superb yesterday.

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Ibe will have a big future I think. Not so sure about sterling. Guy has all the ability in the world but its his off field problems that might start to kill his career. Not so sure how fast he would be with a tag on his ankle. The has signed a long contract with us. BR has tried the arm around the shoulder. Might be time give him a kick up the back side and send him into the u18 for a while.

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Yeah I couldn't agree any more on Sterling, thought he looked superb and played with confidence which is something I don't think we have really seen so far from him.

Unsure about whether a starting place in the team for him on saturday would be a bad move now, with Phil Jones likely to be RB again for Utd I see no reason why his pace and trickery isn't exactly what we need. It could also allow Coutinho to play centrally which I think could be the undoing of Utd. However if this comes at the sake of Henderson who I thought was superb when he came on last night then perhaps not, but performances like that from both players certainly gives us more options especially if a LW isn't signed.

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28 Aug 2013 09:50:37
Hello Ed002,
do have any idea when does Yehven Konoplyanka's contract expire?
Its info is not available on transfermarkt.com but a few Ukranian journos reckon it expires on Dec2013. {Ed002's Note - December 2013 but a new contract is being negotiated.}

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Well now that is depressing. Virtually we can buy Konoplyanka and Sakho in this window for around 20M and instead we are trying to get Illori (for say 6M) and Moses on loan (1M).
And people will say trust the committee. They are football people not you.

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Wouldn't that mean that technically someone could try to get Konoplynaka on a pre-contract now for effectively free in January (similar to the situation with Honda)? If so, bit confused as to why no one has tried as he would surely be worth a punt on a free.

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28 Aug 2013 09:47:24
toure is going to be a massive loss for us unless his signing was the kick up the rump skirtle needed. what a game for him to come back into!

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28 Aug 2013 09:45:34
I think wisdom really needs a loan he struggled last night IMO he's going to be great but not ready yet, sterling was fantastic even when he had to fill in at right back I was so impressed. Nervy night but we got the win shame about injuries but we must soldier on bring on man united.

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I agree. Wisdom needs to improve his positioning.

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28 Aug 2013 10:39:09
Thank GOD we both were watching the same game.

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I no Rodgers said a loan could be good but now Toure out we must sign someone first hope we do, feel sterling had a point to prove people more focused on criticising yesterday than looking for positives like sterling an Ibe.

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I thought sterling was fantastic last night, showed a great attitude and desire to be on the pitch although I have to say when he went to RB I got slightly worried thinking he was going to get sent off!got the booking and was still partial to the odd foul after. credit has to be given to BR, we won with 10 men after he rearranged the formation, did anyone notice how sturridge went to RM and Ibe was up top for a bit in Extra time?

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The thing is Ian despite the fact he got booked he's not a defender so I think he done very well indeed, I think Ibe going up top was probably because he was fitter than sturridge who still isn't 100% I'm sure he would have come of after an hour if it wasn't for injuries.

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28 Aug 2013 09:43:51
Just a though the season we finished second in the PL was 2008-09 in that season we won a lot of games in the final few minutes through belief and determination.

From what I've seen in pre-season and more importantly these 3 competitive games is some of that mentality is back.

We won't win every game but we will keep trying and fighting. I was at Anfield last night and in extra time we controlled the game even with 10 men. The reason for our 2 goals conceded was a lack of concentration Johnson been out of position led to there second goal and another set piece mix up. These things can be rectified.

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28 Aug 2013 09:43:04
Hi eds, reds
Looks like chelski are signing Atsu if they do surly that means they are moving at least 1 of there other midfielders ( be nice if it was Mata to us ) or has something happened with the willian deal? I know it's more of a Chelsea question but with the rumours about Mata and Moses doing the rounds I thought it might affect us . Although after toure's injury I think our transfer plans might have changed thanks .
YNWA
Jamesee {Ed002's Note - I have explained that Moses is available.}

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28 Aug 2013 09:40:09
How do you rate our chances of getting Griezmann from Real Sociedad

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60/40 if we actual show interest in him as Rennes & Florentina are the most interested clubs at present.

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28 Aug 2013 10:03:19
Astu in going to chelsea now preparing for the another target missed brigade

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Just thinking the exact same thing. A month or so ago when we were interested he would of been branded 'not good enough to grace the shirt'. Now Chelsea are interested he's definitely world class and another we've missed out on!
Only worrying thing for me is this could pave the way for a move for Moses. Ill withhold my judgement for the time being but on the face of it he doesn't seem any better than what we have. Maybe a tad more experienced than Sterling/ Ibe but I'd rather see them given the opportunity to step up. Time will tell.

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Ok then, another target missed. £3m was the figure around for the 21yr old left sided player. An area we need to cover.
So 21yr old with winning experience, the FSG model.
£3m an amount you'd think affordable for a club aiming to be in the CL and compete
But the player was deemed not good enough. Although seems good enough for a coach who has won everything and a team tipped for the title.
Anyone explain something I've missed?

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28 Aug 2013 10:53:59
I honeslty don't see this happening. They have just bought Willian and Hazzard too plays in the Left.
Y do they need Atsu?.

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Come on now crunch, you are being rediculous. Have you seen him play, he has pace and strength but absolutely no end product. Maybe Mouriho wants to have cover in the team after making moses available and doesn't want to spend the world after splashing 30m on Will-ian.

Plus most importantly, if we never made a bid in the first place we can't technically have missed out.

Haha sorry eds, know this won't get posted

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So because Jose wants him that makes him a good fit and talented enough for any club? Kezman was also good enough for the coach who has won anything and many other bad players like mikel and kalou. Perhaps you send a 'dear Jose ' letter and ask him who he think Liverpool should buy?

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Reply to crunch!
What you have missed!
1. He hasn't signed yet!
2. Who said £3million was the figure(speculation)
3. Ed02 said that people from Europe were questioning this player, as they thought they were Fulham level.
4. Mourinho isn't always right

Just saying

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28 Aug 2013 09:58:59
Well just knew loggin on here would depress me . Fantastic game . lots of chances yet again . sum grt goals and yes we conceeded 2 . but it happens especially when we don't have much height in the team u are always going 2b vulnerable. Thought our keeper should have come out for the 1st one it was in the air along time and he just stayed on his line . Anyway I got to watch my fav football team for an extra 30mins and we won soo well happy . bring on the Mancs Sunday and let's see what we can do . Oh but if we get beat I cert won't be on here till at least Wedo))

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28 Aug 2013 09:57:40
DomB, you asked earlier about Sturridge's current record, he has started 16 games in all competitions, scoring 15 goals .

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But not all of those 15 goals were from starts.

In a total of 19 appearance, Sturridge has 15 goals and 5 assists (12 in 16 in the PL)

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28 Aug 2013 09:53:39
Toure missing is going to be a huge blow he has been our best defender. Allen well the only thing I miss about Allen is the money we paid for him.

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28 Aug 2013 09:40:07
Hi EDs. Seems like we are linked with both Ilori and Sakho at the moment. Are we interested to sign either one or are we interested to capture both of them if possible? Also, how much do you think Mata would cost if he was put on the market? Thanks and keep up the good work! {Ed002's Note - See previous answers please.}

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Ilori & Sakho could both arrive if Skrtel leaves as we could the loan out Wisdom, Mata would cost around £25M.

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28 Aug 2013 08:49:29
Hi eds ad reds. Ed02 I think? You posted spuds have no issues re ffp but I am baffled as to how? We have 10000 aprox extra capacity have some of the highest kit / shirt sponsor deals ever done in the league have removed most high earners from our playing staff and barring managerial change costs which were used to explain losses (and which spud have also recently had to pay out) have not had many massive outlays with spuds paying a min 10% extra on players we have chased scouted and been gazumped on! How are we any worse off than they are if they have no issues and why are we so reluctant to dip an extra couple of million ( laughable how million are banded about I know) to secure 1st choice targets rather than continually missing out? Not having a go just want some enlightenment on how they seem to be in a better position and manage to out spend us when we are chasing the same players? I know we have previously ha bad owners an ba deals fOr players ala carrol but how long realistically will it take for us to compete in the transfer Market? Spuds have not got cl and have not had constant runs in the competitions so dint see that as the shirtfall

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the FFP rules in detail and don't want to open up the turnover issues of the clubs again (Spurs are well run and pretty much self funding; Liverpool are fighting back to get to being self funding after sustaining massive losses in recent years). But look at the transfer fees alone. The two previous years that count toward FFP sees that Liverpool has a net spend of more than £87M and Spurs has made a profit on transfers of about £25M. This summer will probably see Spurs break even again after they sell Bale and bring in what I expect to be three more players.}

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28 Aug 2013 09:34:46
Any info on injuries, I hope Kolo is not out for longer than 2 weeks, and what's with Ally Cissokho, twisted ankle?
Allen injurie was strange?

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Allen was hamstring, probably didn't stretch enough during half time or something easily missed.
Shame, he looked good last night.

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28 Aug 2013 08:28:56
Carra to come out of retirement to ease the immediate CB shortage?
Just a thought.
JFT96

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And to bring his mate Gary Neville, too. Perhaps both could play on Sunday.
Rigsby.

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28 Aug 2013 09:45:16
If only

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28 Aug 2013 09:43:57
I was thinking that too mate
Jamesee

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28 Aug 2013 08:22:56
Quality is about stepping up when you lose 2 goals to a lower league club and have the bottle to keep going and produce the win. If it was last year I would have put money on us not having the bottle and going down 3 - 2.

Good result last night.

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28 Aug 2013 09:43:24
Quality is to preserve the 2 goal lead against a league 1 oppostion at HOME.

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For once Harry you and I are in agreement. Rodgers made an offensive sub when we were 2 1 up where I think a defensive one to see out the game would've been much better.

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28 Aug 2013 12:54:07
Neveda.
. I like that. let's hope we continue this further.

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28 Aug 2013 08:21:07
So can we safely draw a line under the mata to Liverpool rumours?!

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28 Aug 2013 08:18:04
poor old LS, sitting there last night switching back and forth from the Liverpool carling cup game to the arsenal CL game, he must have been nearly in tears when he thinks what could have been, oh well, there's allways next season luis surely they can't hold you hostage longer than that or else amnesty international will be involved, FREE LUIS SAUREZ

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Look. What cesc had to go through before he was let go. Suarez ant even half way.

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Yeah and go play for Arsenal and win nothing ever!
Your in a far worse state that us on the pitch

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Where are Arsenal in the league?

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Dear God, it's bad enough reading some of the posts from our own so-called supporters without letting a Gooner loose on here.

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I bet he was pleased watching Aston villa demolish arsenal then slip to a defeat to Liverpool as well eh?

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28 Aug 2013 08:16:39
So I have heard, that Mata is in Talks with Spurs and Liverpool. And Jose wants to make it a Perm. deal not a loan. about 25 mil, Also Liverpool to sign not 1 but 2 CB's before the deadline, if BR gets his wish. Also still looking for that great winger. I hear we have Ayew, and Sakho from France coming in. {Ed002's Note - You might well be disappointed.}

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I think it will be Skrtel Borini and Assaidi leaving. Don't rule out Suarez leaving neither.

Ins:
LW RW: Moses loan
RB CB: Alderwerield 5m
Plus another surprise signing.

If Suarez leaves then expect two top quality attackers.

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You still pissed?

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28 Aug 2013 07:38:55
Eds what's the situation with Kelly? he wasn't even on the bench last night. is he still recovering? But I remember him playing in pre season and also scoring a goal {Ed002's Note - There is no "situation" with Kelly that I am aware of.}

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Picked up injury and not 100% yet. Think its like two weeks away, if that.

~He looked Huge in preseason, think CB position would be better for him, like a wall

Needs a haircut, unless he's off to Spain?

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28 Aug 2013 09:15:39
Eds and reds!

Great advert for english football last night, just can't stand some of these 'fans' for having a go at Luis Alberto. Really?! For his first game at anfield against a physical team I thought he did very well, nice neat touches, quick simple passes (the ball to allen which bypassed the county midfield and lead to studgeys goal), good pressing up the pitch. However, I expected allen to express himself a bit in this game as it was the perfect opportunity for him to dictate the tempo as well as get forward but credit to the notts county midfield for closing down the ball especially in the 2nd half. All in all, another game another win, unfortunate injuries and clear to see we need to shore up the defence a bit (the marking for the first goal was a calamity).

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28 Aug 2013 09:45:28
Allen was shocking and Poor. why don't you just accept it and move on like suarez is a Mug for you.

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Perhaps he feels that supporting a struggling young player is more beneficial to both team and player than criticizing him. Lucas and Henderson both had lots of abuse from fans on here and neither deserved it.

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Did I say Allen was great? I expected him to take the opportunity given, he didn't. I still believe he can become a good player for us

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28 Aug 2013 09:10:02
I am a big fan of BR but last night I thought he was slighly naive. He is a young manager and he will learn from mistakes but he played a strong team last night more as a crowd pleaser than anything else.
More of the kids should have played and fringe players. Borini, etc should have started.
All of a sudden our squad looks verythin and with so many out on loan these players could have played in this game.

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First, we won. Aly has played only a few minutes and probably wouldn't have started on Saturday. Skyrtel isn't hopeless by any stretch, he just struggled with the change in style, cost us some points and lost his spot. He is still a very capable centre back, if not a perfect fit under BR. And Allen wouldn't have started either. It is not good news but it is football.

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28 Aug 2013 07:36:07
Twas the morning after the night before and all that was stirring was the doom merchants.
We won and that is 3 out of 3, best start to a season since the mid 90s. Out of the 3 injuries Toure is the biggest concern and from my understanding Skrtel should be fit to play and you never know we might just get a centre back in time for the game Sunday.
Hope that game showed how much we missed Lucas, so could the ones that slate him get off his back now please.
Bring on the Mancs as we are flying high and full of confidence.

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Agree Slaphead. We could easily have bottled it like last year but instead scored two. Injuries were not good but that is the game and as you say, the major concern is Toure although I think it is a good chance for Skytel to show up.

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28 Aug 2013 09:34:57
Is the same kinda win you criticized of cheslea against Villa. we just scrapped through. right?

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Oh god how on earth did you make out that we missed Lucas last night.
Infact I thought the midfield was a lot better with Gerrard and Allen and then Gerrard and Henderson. They were actually playing very well as a duo with alternately one falling deep and one joining the attack. It was just that we were not bothered to play in the second half hence they got back in the game and nothing to do with Lucas.

Secondly, I will again say that you alongwith a lot of LFC fans over-rate Lucas a lot. He is a decent DM that's about it. But if you give me a Fernando Reges or Yann M'vila (maybe both) to replace Lucas I will do it in a heartbeat. And before you bash me, I am not a Lucas hater but just feel we can replace him with better players. That is the way to improve the squad is it not.

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28 Aug 2013 10:45:12
Navjyoth.

Mate were you watching the game yesterday?
We controlled the first half coz, Notts county like most of the teams comes to anfiled to sit deep and defend.and when it changed in the second half. we litreally lost the plot. check villa and stoke game.
The only player we missed yesterday was Lucas or a DM
Did you said Allen and Gerrard were good toegther?
If this seaosn by any chance we would make into top 4, our midfield would be lucas gerrard and hendo If countinho is being played at LW:

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Navjyoth,

You do realize that Lucas out performed both of those players last year don't you? He had more successful tackles, interceptions, key passes and a better pass %.I think Maybe the fact that Lucas isn't 6 foot 3 and 180lbs clouds many fans judgement. You don't need physical strength when you have guile and the ability to read the game well

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Harry mate
Yes I was watching the same game and gave my opinion in the post before.

Secondly, I reckon the day Liverpool feels like playing a DM against a team like Notts County at HOME is the day we should give up hope of playing in the prem.

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28 Aug 2013 07:22:46
We needs signings! Why don't they put 13mil for pappy and 30 mil for their marquee get It done, if a 17 year old can think of 10 players who would be a dream in the team and not all about champions league football why can't FSG {Ed002's Note - FSG don't pick the players.}

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We should sign Ilori & Sakho but only if Skrtel leaves than Sakho would become an option, we also need 2 wingers, Ince to play on the right & a proven quality left sided player that will get goals as our wingers don't score enough, i'd like to see cover for Lucas as Allen once again struggled although Rodgers will stick with him.

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28 Aug 2013 07:21:25
hai Ed. Mng and Great work.
Good result, and shocking second half.
Sterling had pretty good game so as hendo and Sturridge, Gerrard too was good in the first half.
What is going on with Allen? How many more chance this guy needs?.yesterday was the stage for him to show why we spend 18 mill on him.
against aleague 1 side. you shoudl dictate. he was awful.
I am not sure what's Borini doing?, did we buy him to play in u21 and reserves?.
9 mill for Luis alberto?, you cannot have countinho everytime you buy.
Toure would be fit, Allen would no way make the squad this season again. can we sell him plss?
We need CB and LW, and its been months, what's going on behind the scenes? Wisdom has been poor of late.
Do we have 10 mil to sepnd on each of these positions?
Mr. Glen Johnsosn Hatss off to you. for your performance.

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Give it a rest Harry! What the hell is your problem with Allen, Alberto and Borini?! Did they steal your toys from your pram?

Allen was OK yesterday and Borini didn't get a chance to play because of our injury problems, including Allen. Is it Allen's fault he got injured and didn't give Borini a chance?

Alberto made his first team debut yesterday and for the record he cost £7 million, not the £9 million you exaggerate it to.

It is pretty clear you want Allen, Borini and Alberto to fail. You spouted a lot of rubbish about Mignolet, Toure and Asaps and now that they have done well, you have changed your tune.

For the sake of sanity of others, please take your insane and pathetic ramblings elsewhere.

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Have to agree with u Harry about Allen. He is not the same player we purchased from swansea last season for 15 million pounds. Needs to buck up or move on. Hendo is already miles ahead of him, so I don't see a way back into the first team for Allen anymore.

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Wisdom poor of late? Such as when, oh yeah the other games he played this season?
Alberto try £7 million, looked comfortable on the ball playing passes, what do you want from a player just moved from a b team into one of the hardest teams to play for?
Aiken b4 injury last season had one of the highest pass completions in the league, carried on playing while injurd for the rest, just coming back into the team, didn't do any thing wrong then got a knock, what's your problem?
You, harry are a very glass half empty depressing supporter, don't think I can recall an up beat post from you

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28 Aug 2013 09:35:24
Why do you dislike allen so much? he has been playing well the past number of games he has been on, some very nice footwork and attacking from him at times aswell last night.

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Alberto was fine and it was only his debut. yup we can't have coutinho everytime we buy. and you shouldn't be expecting that as well.

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I think Harry reckons that a player should be judged on how many goals they score. Migs is our worst player this season not a single shot on target so far. Should be replaced by a top class striker. What you think Harry.

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Time for a reality check Harry!
Johnson played horrible! Completely clueless when defending and lucky to get past the Notts County defenders the few times he did.

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28 Aug 2013 09:52:37
The Real AG

Seems Allen, borini and alberto are your cousnies?.

Did you said Allen was Ok?. Man. why are u so biased, Good to see him off and we bought hendo and the game actually changed. and Borini Injured?

Alberto wasnt good enough yesterday and I never wanted him with that sort of money when we were crying for a LB and CB from ages.

Toure is a bargain, If he fails or succeed it doesn't matter us much, No transfer fees. Aspas, I like him and for me he is a Striker, I have laways supported him.

And regarding my post, Yours ain't better, Its just with a caption " support allen borini "

And You are adament suarez to fail this season, Common you just don't like him, regardless oif what he spouts.

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28 Aug 2013 10:22:10
Wisdom looked shakky, But that's ok given his age and inexpereince and he should be loaned like suso, to get some good experience.
Liverpool need CL not expirements this season.

Alberto might be a good player. No comments. and ther are plenty in the sunny spain, If you walk through the streets of barca you could fine 100 players like alberto anydaay, given 9 mill for a position which we actually need to to be adressed, I see it as waste.

Allen before Injury when?. its been years. How much more excuses?. since then Lucas had two injuries and sturridge had one.

Me depressing,, Might be, because I say facts,, which you simply don't digest, there is no point in defending stuppidity unless you call urslef a fool no matter which field it is.
I am sure you have never wokred undersomeone.nor you have managed a team of people.

No Offence mate.

JTaylor781

I don't dislike Allen, But he was a bad buy and the worst is when you just don't accept it, since BR bought him.
He was a DLP, played in almost every position, to prove what?.

If Aquaman is a bad buy in any sense, then so Allen too.

elnino09

As I mentioned Luis alberto is a pretty decent player, But do we really need him at 9 mill?, If he was to replace shelvey, wer actually did shelvey played for us last seaosn?
what about other targets?

Kumber
h. good one. Striker Yes. No doubt is judged by his goals. Look Rooney, A superb player, once a striker now Playmaker, LW, RW,
Fernando torres, more assist than goals?
My fav in the team is Lucas. He is simply superb. he never scores goals But with him its a trust and Belief that we have someone in the middle.

Liverpool is a Top club and every single minor errors cost us biig time. and we need to be In CL coming seaosn.

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Allen is too lightweight an a crab, he never opens a defence with a quality ball its always sideways 10 metre at best pass. As for borini the lad is just not ready get him out on loan, same with wisdom a loan spell would do him good. Bit of quality is needed to make top 4 not young squad players.

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Harry front end of last season aliens first season with us he had one of the highest pass completion rates other league, he injured his shoulder requiring surgery yet continued to play, what did he do wrong last night Harry?
Alberto cost 7 million not 9, and if there are hundreds walking the streets of barca then why didn't the re st of the Spanish teams playing against him last year to and get them, pretty sure he scored and set up double figures for barca b.
Your words were wisdom has been poor of late, when Harry? What other games has he played to be poor in?
You say facts that you have tucked away in your little mind but you can back none up, as to my work experience you have no clue and I have no intention of detailing my work, I will tell you one thing though if you were a man manager you would be sacked within a week.
I think it's time you started to backup your deluded facts as you call them, we all have an opinion but yours are constantly whiny like my wife on her monthlies.

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I think Harry that you're speaking I a little too soon about Allen and borini. Give them another year at least. Some players take a while to adapt, rush took nearly 3 years and if you'd been in charge Harry you would've shipped him out after 10 games. Henry took 20 games at arsenal to find his feet, would you have sold him as well?

Sadly people lack patience today, a year ago you wanted Henderson out as well, this should all be evidence enough that sometimes with a bit of time, the right coaching, and some good fans. players will repay the faith shown in them. Rodgers has shown that he's not afraid to sell anyone who he thinks won't contribute enough in future, let's trust his judgement since we made good progress since he came here.

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28 Aug 2013 07:04:23
Hi eds great work as always thought I'd change the mood a litle sturridge is on fire how many goals in how many games has he got for us

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28 Aug 2013 06:32:37
Eds
Eds

Our backline requires urgent support Sakho and Alderwereld both can play cb and lb/rb respectively. Also a loan Moses not a bad idea. The team is playing well at the moment, no need for big name and price players

Regards

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28 Aug 2013 05:58:16
Thought we played well for the majority of the game last night and never really looked to need to get out of second gear, really don't think anyone would have seen County scoring two, but once they did Liverpool really upped the tempo again and ended up winning comfortably.
With the current squad only Toures injury has the chance to really hurt us, thought he was sensational again until his injury, slight lapse in focus and communication with Wisdom for Arquin's goal but that is no biggy really.
Got to say the injuries probably pushed that game as far as it went. I could have seen Cissokho and Allen getting 90 mins and we would probably have seen Gerrard go off for Henderson and Borini come on, aswell as Coutinho with atleast one of Sterling and Ibe coming off, which would have probably been enough quality and experience to win in 90 minutes. Any team that sustains 3 injuries in a game is goingto struggle and I think we coped superbly when down to 10.
Like I say, Toure will be the big miss on Sunday, but we may see the re-emergance of Skrtel or maybe a new signing before then and I still think we have the chance to make it 3 in 3 in the league, Enrique will be at LB, Gerrard Hendo Lucas in Mid with Coutinho Sturridge Sterling up top, Skrtel and Agger CB, obviously Johnson at RB. that's good enough to push United man for man.

Anfield Andy

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28 Aug 2013 09:18:40
Wisdon needs to be loaned soon, the ald is very young to take up the entire responsibilty, and BTW he looked pretty shaky in past 2 games played.
what about Johnson?

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The fact that Johnson scores a few goals doesn't blind me, his defensive frailties are far too many to allow him to play defense, a shift to the wing might be better for him in my opinion since he rarely defends anyway.

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28 Aug 2013 05:33:05
Surely we would only be looking at left hand side if Suarez was leaving as if he stays you would think it would be Suarez central and coutinho on the left?
Looks to me that it's the right hand side where we are weaker with aspas, who in my opinion is average, looking our strongest candidate there?
Is it that we are looking for a left footer to play right side? or maybe Suarez on the right and coutinho central? What happens when we play 4-3-3? It just doesn't add up to me that we are looking for a left sided player for our first team?
Any opinions?

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28 Aug 2013 05:03:20
Happy with last nights performances from Sterling and Ibe. Their attacking positions and runs were great and their adaption to Rodgers' style of play is a good thing to see. They've continued their impressive preseason and hopefully get more chances in the league to show everyone else what they can do!

Surely a bid for at least Illori is imminent now?

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28 Aug 2013 05:02:13
If we get Moses on loan then hopefully it's a 'to buy clause' as I think he did quite well last season for Chelsea under Rafa and would be very good for us. Obviously i'd love Mata but think Moses would be a very good bit of business. Thought he came on leaps and bounds towards the end of last season.

I'd be happy to have a sporting bet with Ed00blue :) that Moses will out score and assist Willian this season, should the reds sign him.

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28 Aug 2013 04:46:52
With bale off to Madrid this week di Maria will be on his way to the prem likely arsenal, would be great for lfc

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28 Aug 2013 04:28:13
Allen borini alberto cissokho nowhere near able to compete with the established 1st 11, which has a lot of problems with Suarez unsettled, gerrard clearly very limited as a player now.
Some good creative moments with one finisher, sturridge.
Defensively in midfield and the back 4, it's very shakey.
The gap between the kids developing and senior players is wide.
FSG are unable to compete with potential rivals in transfers and LFC will languish below 5 teams until FSG have
sold up.
The keeper was a decent buy and coutinho and sturridge are good enough players for a top 5 side.
Was there in 93 and the youth saved us after poor buys, is going to be a long long learning curve if moneyball and a 5 yr plan did see out a few more seasons.

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An insanely poor post. Get a grip man.

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Cissokho has only played about 30 mins of football, why are you slagging him already?

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Money ball applies only to baseball my friend. Read the sabremetrics book by bill James and you'll understand why {Ed001's Note - I would give up if I was you Nevada, I have tried to explain this point since the day FSG bought us, no one listens. }

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28 Aug 2013 03:43:26
It's a bit early after the game but with these injuries do you think it might force FSG to pay that little bit extra and get reinforcements? I mean we were still a little light in defence and attack before last nights game? I really hope we make some stunning moves in this last week. thanks

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28 Aug 2013 03:27:45
Suarez' first game will be the 3rd round of the cup on the 23rd! Quite excited about our team this year even if sturridge gets injured we have Suarez to fill in up top. Not meny teams can do that! Plus could u imagine if we did sign a top left attacker in the turan, willian mold add that to what we've already got!

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28 Aug 2013 02:59:41
Think people need to calm down a wee bit, performance wasn't great but we won! Expected better but these things happen, arsenal lost to Bradford last season, millwall made it to the FA cup semi-final, Leeds knocked out united a few seasons back and we didn't even lose! Also calling it a pointless game is just arrogance, we aren't in Europe so is one of 3 available trophies! Also I know I was plenty when we won it last time!
As for injuries, no need for a panic reaction! Gutted we lost the players, but we have plenty of midfielders and Rodgers said after the match that Skrtel was fit (check sky) and we have Kelly and Wisdom. Don't see that as the priority area, for me another forward is a must (idly a quick goal scoring winger, which we lack and gives us options) as we lack depth up front. After our starting XI our attacking options are borini, sterling, & Ibe who could potentially be great but would prefer a more proven and mature player.

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28 Aug 2013 02:40:34
Just back from the game, good atmosphere, and i'd just like to make 1 point, watching it live, and choosing to look at any player at any moment. glen Johnsons defending is one of the worst I've ever seen. for the first goal, I was thinking in my head "whys their 2 spare at the back post" then sure enough the ball went over to the spare (johnsons man) he heads it back in and the bloke scored. then their second goal, where on earth was he as they came flying down the left?! I now see what every one has said about him defence wise. ( ps. I see your message robbehmolby and okay mate! )

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Johnson was playing LB wasn't he? So it should have been Wisdom there for the second goal.

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28 Aug 2013 09:23:44
Cant believe he is playing for the national team. show how poor England team is and how easy is to get into National team.
If you are of city, arsneal, Liverpool or UTD, you would be a guaranteed National player.

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I meant our left ag. County's right.

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28 Aug 2013 02:11:02
Bit wary of our defence against ManU, it seems like Wisdom will be playing CB and last time I saw him at CB Balde for Celtic exposed his vulnerabilities. Best of luck to him however because I believe he is good enough to partner Agger in the back of our defence if given a decent run of games.

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Skrtel is fit and assuming he doesn't leave this window, he will start with Agger.

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28 Aug 2013 01:31:28
Liverpool will make a 19 million pound bid for PSG forward, Ezequiel Lavezzi. PSG are believed to be willing to sell, after the arrival of Cavani. They also have Ibrahimovic and Menez ahead of him, so Lavezzi is a surplus requirement.

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28 Aug 2013 09:24:33
Lavezzi is an outstadning player. and he was bought at more than 30 mill by PSG, nowhere in the living world would we get him for 19 mill

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28 Aug 2013 01:57:46
Calm down knee-JERKS. How disappointing you all are - waiting for something to moan about, waiting for anything to have a go at Rodgers or FSG about. Nothing will ever be good enough for you lot. Who would have thought progressing in a cup competition would result in negativity being spewed all over this great forum?

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You said it, it's a forum so therefore people are entitled to opinions.

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I totally agree Liverpres!

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Yep and that's my opinion mate!

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28 Aug 2013 01:45:35
A good win tonight and a great performance from both sides, but now back to business.

With the injuries incured from tonights game we urgently need to bring in another defender. I think Škrtel is near to fitness. Also Agger and Wisdom are available but to ensure we are suffice in the defensive area another defender must to be brought in. Sakho would is a good option and he is available.

We also need two wide players as it would be unfair to put too much pressure on young duo Sterling and Ibe. I know Moses is being considered on loan and he is available. Also, Griezmann of Real Sociedad would be a very good aquisition too. That would sort out the width.

Then I am sure we would be just fine to kick on and do well. Let's just pray Sturridge doesn't pick up an injury before Suarez returns to action.

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28 Aug 2013 01:16:05
3 players injured and everyone wants us to spend spend spend.
They are only injured and will get better, they are not dead.
Toure and cissokho where not even at the club last year, we had skrtle and Enrique who are still here and can come in, (kelly or wisdom if skrtle isn't fit enough). Everyone just slags Allen off anyway so he shouldn't be missed by 90% of the "fans" anyway.
Oh and we won tonight, that's 3 out of 3.

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Yes indeed, toure surely could never originally have been intended to play every game, he was supposed to be cover

it merely illustrates the need to get a couple more names in. and to anyone who says they wouldn't like to win a cup. don't bother watching when we get to wembley ;)

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Great that we won, that's the main thing, but Toure won't be playing on sunday, that means our back line will be under a lot of pressure to keep an eye on RVP, not to happy with that, Toure has been outstanding, and he could have been rested last nite,

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28 Aug 2013 01:12:34
For all the negative posts about the game remember one thing that while you are correct that our second half was well below par it is far better to have games like this now rather than later in the league. Problems now can be addressed and hopefully improved upon.

Far more upsetting for me was the injuries-especially Toure! He will be missed and could be out for a while. really feel for him and Aly in particular.

Wishing them all a speedy recovery!

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28 Aug 2013 09:27:20
garerth

the problem you are refering is with us from one whole year. and we after 2 months of transfer window haven't fixed.
CB and winger. how many years do we need to fix this?
y did we bought Borini, common league cup, against league 1 side. stil not in the team.
Luis alberto to cover countinho?
where is Aspas? should have played.
Allen more than 35 games for Liverpool, only 3-5 notable performance.
thats more than 40 mill spend on average Buys execpt Aspas.

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27 Aug 2013 23:31:01
Evening eds and reds first time poster. Not really a rumour was just wondering how true the moses rumour is? Don't understand why BR is going down that route when there is a fair bit of speculation that mata could be on his way out of chelsea due to the arrival of willian. If we had 25/30 million to buy HM earlier in the summer and roughly the same fee for willian then why not use that cash to try a cheeky bid for mata? He is proven in the Premier League whereas Moses is average at best. If the money is there then what is the harm of sounding chelsea out. Any thoughts on this are appreciated. Keep up the good work guys. YNWA

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28 Aug 2013 01:22:13
Interviewer: "You were given a rest tonight. Did you expect to be playing?"

Henderson: "I don't know if I was given a rest. The boys that were played deserved to be played."

Absolute class.

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28 Aug 2013 03:13:10
didnt expect less from him, a true gentleman and professional! good bounce back, showed we can win after the opposition comebacks, feel sorry for the injured lads hopefully they comeback stronger, anyways here is the chance for someone to step up to the occasion cause that's what's all this competition for places is about right?

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Total respect for Henderson - I really admire everything about the lad.

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Henderson is a class act. This guy deserves to be club captain one day. He has been getting better with each game, and his goal last night had a bit of Uruguayan flavour to it. Keep it up Hendo.

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I have criticzed him in the past. But that's what a palyer needs. some push from behind, which makes you hunger to proove a point.
he was immense yesterday. Miles better than Allen who plays nothing.

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Henderson is improving all the time and is now adding a real goal threat every time he plays, I really like him now and without doubt is in our 1st eleven pick over allen who continues to underwhelm me . pity about the injuries last night but we do have skyrtel and enrique to come in on sunday and after watching that muck on monday we have nowt to be afraid of . we are well capable of getting 3pts again .

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28 Aug 2013 00:42:10
Bravo Jordan Henderson, what a great player he is turning out to be!

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Here here! Has added goals to his game and is a shining example of what can happen when we allow these young guns to progress!

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He has my favorite goal celebrations as well. Mainly because of how excited he is every time it happens.

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When he first came on he was very sloppy with his passing and I was really not happy with him, was losing possession and passing sloppy.

But then he scored a beautiful goal, i'm a big fan of hendo and think he can be massive for us, but this is his season, this season he needs to prove that he can cut it with the prem league big boys and can score goal.

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28 Aug 2013 00:38:10
Another player (assaidi) out of the squad. We have only brought in 5 new players and let at least 6 leave. Good start to the season. But ayre and rodgers said we needed 4 new players ontop of the sqaud numbers we had last season. sorry but that's not happening and with 6 days left to inject another 4 players! Bollox

What do ed's and reds think?

Ynwa

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Actually we've let 10 leave

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28 Aug 2013 00:37:36
Why all the negativity tonight? - we've won 11 and drawn 4 of the last 16 games.

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28 Aug 2013 00:32:06
Honestly not a bad performance from the reds tonight, guaranteed if none of our players were injured nobody would be complaining of it being a horrible game. The team did their work and we even hit the post 3 times so honestly you can say we were just unlucky. Out of the 3 injuries only Toure would have faced many Manu so as long as we can get in a center back in before then we should be fine. Also Skrtl will be available so if anything let's hope he can give 100 percent and play a good game.

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28 Aug 2013 00:30:48
sJust when things begin to take shape THE LIVERPOOL BUG hits home! Couple of seasons ago it was Lucas getting injured at Chelsea when we were winning 2-0, and tonight, although behind we would have still beaten a very very tired Notts County team. BUT, Toure, Sissokho and Allen injured! Just when I thought we might have a chance against United and go 3 wins out of 3! I'm so tempted to swear, but I won't, not here. Maybe now we get our fingers out and go for it, although it's too late for Sunday and we have to put up with whatever we have!
Will Skertle be ready for Sunday?

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27 Aug 2013 23:57:24
Just in case anyone missed it - we won the match and have progressed in the cup. Well done boys.

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Glad I went and watched the replays before checking in on here. Sometimes this site ruins your day with how depressed everyone is.

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27 Aug 2013 23:45:17
Well not the best performance but made it through. I am quite amazed at all the posts tonight so quick to jump on the team & mangers back.
Yes we have a problem with finishing teams off, had it for a few years now, but should we give Notts County some credit? Obviously played their hearts out and deserve the extra time.

People say we should of played kids and I bet the same people would of said we should of played more experience lads if the other way round.

Just can't win with most of you lot. The man u game will be a completely different game. And if professional footballers can't recover in 5 days then they should'nt get the silly money they get.
Let's hope the injuries are not as bad as they seem. And we all are behind the lads come the Manu game regardless of who we have signed or not signed!
Cmd 20

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27 Aug 2013 23:41:16
What does everyone think of Kondogbia of Sevilla? Quality player but is he worth €20m? I think so. {Ed030's Note - Close to signing for Monaco..I think. }

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27 Aug 2013 23:37:06
On a positive note-we may have lost that game last season.

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27 Aug 2013 23:29:28
FSG out they obviously made us lose tonight! they spend 0 pennies. We have no good players we should sell them all and only buy £30mill marquee signings. Why are we so so bad! HA NO please guys give it a rest we may not have played well but we won and that's fine with me and should be with you too. a few players got injured which is a bit of a worry but my only concern was that borini never got any game time! I hope sterling plays at the weekend I think he could tear that OAP defense apart.

Cheers

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27 Aug 2013 23:24:07
The problem with Glen johnson is that he has a clause.in his contract to play soo many games and he's on huge' wages. I never understood why he was offered such a contract because if you want to play for Liverpool foremost, the club comes first, money second'
We weren't great tonight but I still believe we should and need to sign two top players, another CB ( sako) and midfielder ( erriskon) matches are won and lost in Midfield and we have no Top passing CM. Henderson isn't it and gerrard has never been that player. I wish for alonso but will remain a wish. We have a good squad and this season will he a real eye opener into how good we really are'

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27 Aug 2013 23:23:55
Eds, what's the story for Sunday?
Will we get out defensive signing in in time for the match?
Here's our defence:

Toure - Injured
Cissokho - Injured
Skrtle - Injured
Coates - Injured
Kelly - Not match fit

That leaves us with:
Johnson_Agger_Wisdom_Enrique

No defenders on the bench, and at a push, Kelly will have to be there.


I feel it would really help if we just sign Alderwiereld or Sakho before then because we are short at the back

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We desperately need another centre half by Sunday. The Agger-Skrtel pairing simply will not work in BR's system. Hope FSG just pay what it takes to bring in Sakho or Papa, we need physically strong defenders as Kolo cannot be expected to play week in week out. Put Wisdom up against RVP and the mancs will run riot at Anfield. BR needs to sort this out now.

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We might have to scratch around and field Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique. 4 inexperienced lads against United. I'm worried. We need at least SIX signings by Friday.

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Pay the 5m and get Alderwerield in! That is a real bargain. With Assaidi gone and Borini looking likely to follow I think Liverpool need to sign two attackers. Luis Alberto isn't ready and was a stupid signing to be honest.

Options:
Moses loan
Turan 18m
Lamela 30m
Eriksen 10m
Ljanic 10m

I'd love to see Lamela and Eriksen with Alberto going out on loan. Even if Suarez leaves those two plus maybe a forward would easily be enough. However that's unrealistic! Turan would be a cracking buy!

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27 Aug 2013 23:20:18
very miserable on here tonight.you'd think we just lost. ok it was a team lower in the leagues than us and 2-0 up at half time but teams will get fired up when they come to anfield. dire 2nd half agreed but would of been a whole lot worse had we lost. winning breeds confidence and we won (eventually) bring on united on sunday and the next 3 points. injuries are a concern though.

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27 Aug 2013 23:19:56
For f**k sake it's like we've lost on here tonight! We won a game of football tonight we've progressed in the cup we didn't play great but well be better on Sunday! There is a need to strengthen at the back now but we knew that already! Is it deadline day today? No! so give the club chance to bring in someone but then again with all this negativity I don't blame players not wanting to come to us with fans like tonight on here! Get behind the team were unbeaten in the league in the next round ov the cup we've already got great players in the team and it will get strengthened further! let's start getting behind our boys I don't blame the edd's getting bored answering most ov your posts I wouldn't with all this negativity. Rant over!

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Sorry lad scraping a win in extra time against a team 2 leagues below ya whilst losing 3 players to injury and the 3rd round of the carling cup all we have to show for it - not what I would count as a great nights work.

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Seano - stop moaning.

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27 Aug 2013 23:19:40
just wanna say I've read down the page a fair bit.the disrespect some of you "fans" have shown is sickening.we won 4-2 ye it was hard fought.gerrard was excellent for a man of his age.we have just completed the best start to a season since the 90s according to the commentator.and if anything that game is a stern reminder of what lies ahead.if what happened tonight happened last year we would now be knocked out of our first competition of the season.some of you need to know your role.ye we got screwed injury wise but were going to pick our game up against utd we always do.even a draw on sunday is brilliant.stop the moaning.lets hope the injured lads recover well

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27 Aug 2013 23:03:50
So played today with a full strength team - getting brushed aside in the middle of the park by a league one opposition; 120 minutes of play and at the end of it we have 3 causalities and just went to the third round.
Just don't understand why we getting rid of soo many players out with an already thin squad and not adding any players in.
Its not all about slashing the wage bill and getting profit; we desperately need quality players and also a big strong holding midfielder as we are too vulnerable against bigger opponents - hopefully rodgers use his common sense

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27 Aug 2013 22:58:15
Ok after that game I think its clear we need a few signings (altho we will know more after the injuries are looked at tomorrow).
Either way, Wisdom showed some inexperience today and we do need another CB espicially now with coates and toure injured (i don't rate coates at all anyway).

Johnson, altho I do usually like him, was absolutely dreadfull today, probably the worst performance I've ever seen from him in a Liverpool shirt. But he can also be brilliant on his day and I think there are other positions we need to improve on first.

In midfield I think we have enough cover, henderson is a great player (ive always thought so, really energetic and has always had great quality despite his critics). Gerrard got abit tired today, but its not every day u will be playing 120 minutes. And with lucas, coutinho, and allen I think our midfield will be fine until at least january.

Its on the wings that I worry, we've let go assaidi and downing, and suso and all we've brought in is aspas who isn't even a natural winger as he prefers a CF role.
Ibe and sterling look like they could be relied on quite heavily if no one else comes in and we get injuries and I don't think they are quite ready for too many premiership games yet.

All in all I think we need one good CB and 2 attacking players, one NEEDS to be an out and out winger to help us finish these games off and not let teams hang in there and catch momentum towards the 60th/70th minute.

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27 Aug 2013 22:55:42
Encouraging winning signs from the start of this season. Last year we would have drawn against stoke, possibly villa too and tonight's cup game seemed just the typical cupset over Liverpool we have seen over the years, I mean with 10 men?, but no we won, so happy. Brendan Rodgers kept talking about winning mentality and he seems to be off to a good start. I really hope the injuries are not too costly but another win.

Oh and looks like Liverpool are still in a long term relationship with hitting the woodwork.

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27 Aug 2013 22:53:16
To the people calling the team 'disgraceful'! Really people? Is that how you support your team? You do realise that this is a sport and the other team might try to win too, don't you?

These things happen in life and was no reflection on the team not playing hard enough. I suppose they showed no character to win with 10 men then which is a positive. You know what the word 'positive' means eh?!

If you think the only benchmark is perfection you are deluded. No team can play brilliantly for 90 minutes with no mistakes, concede no goals, and score with every shot.

Goodness, I can't believe I'm having to moan about our own fans like this. This is usually an argument I'd have with rival teams supporters not LFC fans.

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27 Aug 2013 22:52:55
So 3 players injured, Allen we can cope with but with the defensive injuries are a worry. So what do we do on Sunday against the Mancs? Give Kelly a start at cb and have wisdom on the bench?
What's everyone's thoughts?

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27 Aug 2013 22:50:00
Have faith in what is going on at the club and stop all the doom and gloom. I will be happy with whatever signings we make as I trust what is happening at the club and can see the gradual progress.

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27 Aug 2013 22:48:33
3 Games

3 Nervy victories!

I'm a bit concerned how our performance level is dropping in the 2nd half, but the real test will come on sunday.

Urgently need some defensive reinforcements now, and what the hell has happened to Glen Johnson! He was terrible tonight.

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Agreed

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No, Sunday will not be the real test as we are always up for the Mancs and play well. The real test has been these opening games, where previously we would have dropped points and possibly bowed out of a cup. But instead, we fought hard and held on for wins in every game. To disregard the first three wins as an achievement is ignorant and disrespectful to Stoke, Villa and County.

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Completely agree with you Liverpres

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27 Aug 2013 22:43:04
Tonight has shown that we should keep our feet firmly on the ground and not get carried away with two wins so early into the campaign.
For those who were saying we should walk into the top 4 this season should take note. Our squad has been laid bare by injuries to players in crucial positions.
We now have Lucas Gerrard and Henderson for the central mid positions and if one were to get injured Alberto who is not yet ready for the pace of the PL will have to come in.
In central defence our best defender this year has got a serious groin injury. Both he and Cissokho will be out for at least.
If FSG and BR don't sign a full back who can slot straight into the team not ILLori as he is ne for the future then it will show us all that they are not serious about competing for top 4 this season. In addition he should continue to pursue an attacking option whether that be Mata or Moses.

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27 Aug 2013 22:38:50
BR interview.

Allen - Hamstring (may be a while)
Cissokho - nick on Ankle (shouldnt be too long)

Toure - Groin - not sure how long.

i would get Alderweiled in asap or Sakho in before Sunday.

Also get a LW and another CB in.

We need the bodies as injuries can ruin a season very very quickly.

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Skirts back soon
Kelly back soon and one new signing should do it
shako would be my choice
agree we need a winger and a holding mi IMO

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27 Aug 2013 22:36:00
What's everyone moaning about?
Every now and then in a cup you come up against a team that plays out of their skin

And we beat them. end of.

Winning a tough game stands us in good stead for later in the season

All it does is highlight the need for 2-3 more signings for a deeper squad {Ed030's Note - Yes but at a cost,2 injuries to a defense already lacking depth. }

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27 Aug 2013 22:34:29
Nice little run out 5 days before our next match. We won 4-2. Absolutely no problems, they will all be well rested for Sunday.
Kolo will be back for Sunday, he's a monster machine. I really don't see the problem here guys, the squad is full of class players who can more than cover for the guys who got injured. The end of the day they are footballers who know how to read a game. Even little Sterling did well at right back, supported by Ibe and Sturridge, well done lads, job well done.

Settle down and stop all the panicking, christ i'd hate to be in a submarine with some of you guys, first sign of water and the screaming starts. Suck it in, get on with supporting our team. next job Man Utd.

ps we are starting to learn how to play as a team, down to 10 men, key players off, but when the going gets tough, we are starting to see what this team is made of. Everyone fighting for each other, good solid team defending and superb spirit

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27 Aug 2013 22:31:29
We really need a cb now. preferably one who can play against big fat immobile strikers

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27 Aug 2013 22:29:53
I couldn't catch the game tonight, anyone able to tell me how Allen and Alberto performed?

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People giving Alberto stick but I think he was composed when he got the ball. Allen was his usual, hustling, composed, underrated self. Love a team that shows tenacity, which our whole lineup does. Allen is going to justify his price tag. I just know it.

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27 Aug 2013 22:29:45
Eds fellow reds, hope John Henry has got his cheaque book ready with assisidi going and three injuries .i think we are very short now. Had a lot of hope for Sundays game but that has all gone now, big big mistake tonight . 100% record will go now, for what the next round of carling cup .

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Oh dear, embarrassing post, embarrassing alias.

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27 Aug 2013 22:27:03
Toure injured, hammer blow for us for the United game, difficult to see us winning now - lack of squad depth being exposed.

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27 Aug 2013 22:26:24
I thought we played well tonight. The team kept going and got the result we deserved. Ok at 2 nil up we took our foot off the pedal and need to be more clinical. The saying is you have to be in it to win it.

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27 Aug 2013 22:24:07
Hi Eds
Just watched the game against notts county done very well I thought! bit iffy but were through! kolo toure however has got himself injured! will this push Liverpool towards a class cb to fill in?
Thanks and good work! {Ed001's Note - we were trying to buy one anyway, nothing has changed that.}

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27 Aug 2013 22:20:47
I think we will be lucky to get a draw against united on Sunday now. No defenders and an in form rvp = defeat for us surely.

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That's the spirit Nevada! Glad you're on board.

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27 Aug 2013 22:16:33
A really bad night and I don't necessarily mean the scoreline or having to play extra time. Three players injured. Already down to the bare bones in the CB spots. It looks like Agger and Wisdom for Saturday. Skrtel injured, Kelly not fit yet and big Toure did not look good on that stretcher. Not good at all.

The Irish Rover

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27 Aug 2013 22:15:41
Just wondering which two player people would take before the window shuts.

One of.
1. M. Sakho.
2. T. Alderweireld.
3. K. Papadopulos.
4. T. Ilori.

One of.
1. C. Eriksen.
2. J. Mata.
3. A. Turan.
4. L. Daimo.


Jonesred {Ed030's Note - Papadopolous and Mate for me,Very unlikely that will happen. }

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I would take Papa or Sakho, with papas injury history I would lean towards Sakho. can't say who is better as have not watched them both extensively.

Mata in a dream scenario, but in all likelyhood it will be moses or someone of similar quality. Think yarmalenko should be on that list, he has the look of zidane about him, very talented man. However, as ed002 would say, 'dont hold your breath'.

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Papadopulos and any of Mata, Eriksen, Turan or Daimo.

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27 Aug 2013 22:14:36
Eds is Skrtel available for Sundays game? {Ed030's Note - According to Rodgers mate. }

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27 Aug 2013 22:12:11
been a fan of the team for over 30 years now and I have to say i'm sickened by mr johnson, hopeless is an under statement, so many goals last year down to his poor defensive skills, turning his back on crosses, poor effort and tonight sums him up, WAGE PACKET!

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27 Aug 2013 22:11:58
Henderson rodgers better thank you tonight because u wer brilliant

Rodgers play hendo in middle u muppet

Sterling gud game too

In end we should of won by 7 or 8

Lfc
Bring on the mancs!
Abbas 786

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27 Aug 2013 22:11:29
hendo take a bow son. best player this season so far for me. at very least most improved.
YNWA JFT96 {Ed030's Note - Yeah,He's been fantastic. }

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I second that, he was immense tonight, did the team proud. I think he is the most improved player in the team.

Once again Wisdom proved he needs game time and a loan would do him the world of good. We should play kelly right back and rest johnson and it really showed how much we need another DM to cover for when lucas is rested or god forbid injured.

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27 Aug 2013 22:10:34
Well it had been coming. Missed penalty by Stoke. Great save from Mignolet vs Benteke.

This is the wake up call we needed before we play MU. We have to sort out our complete lack of composure in front of goal. We snatch at chances, Sturridge has done great but he doesn't have the ruthlessness of Torres, Fowler or Rush.
Secondly the defence is rubbish. Half of our defence can't
Defend (Enrique and Johnson) and Agger suffers from narcolepsy.

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27 Aug 2013 20:20:34
Hey Eds does sturridge have a release clause in his contract? {Ed030's Note - Have no idea,But I highly doubt it and really hope not. }

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27 Aug 2013 17:39:16
ed's are we close to signing sakho from psg please post and answer thanks
lfc-ullah {Ed030's Note - We are interested along with a few other clubs. }

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27 Aug 2013 22:26:28
Long time reader - first time poster. Have to say pleased to get through - although we made hard work of it. Glen Johnson frustrates me so much - always giving the ball away and his defending is questionable (at best). However, roll on Sunday - its going to be 3 wins out of 3

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27 Aug 2013 22:24:57
Hope our trio are ok. Shows what we've all been saying need more players. More depth with quality. Think players like Borini should have played, for confidence as well as fitness. Agger Gerrard Sturridge Toure should not need to play full game v Notts County. Really think its time FSG added that extra quality BR has been asking for.
Hendersons goal awesome.
Things is there is four full days before Utd and at this stage of the season it's just more fitness levels increasing.

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27 Aug 2013 22:24:48
Well I think we've learned a few things tonight, firstly the mental attitude of our players tonight was a disgrace, see how much we improved even with ten men when Henderson scored? It shouldn't take that to wake up should it? Secondly Sterling, no matter how much some people rate him still can't beat his man, I know he scored and got through the defence but I'm talking about on the wing when its not done on instinct, when he has to think about it he doesn't know what to do. Thirdly as I've been banging on about Ibe AND Sterling aren't ready for our first team which highlights what a massive mistake the club have made in not replacing Downing or Assaidi. This falling apart in the second half has got to stop I mean what's going on? We got lucky in the second half against Villa and tonight just about scraped through against a league one side, Embarrassing eh? We've got a lot of work to do and I'm not so confident about Sunday now.

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27 Aug 2013 22:24:45
Not fussed about Allen, he's a squad player. Not fussed about Cissokho, he's as bad as Enrique.

Toure will be a big loss for Sunday.

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27 Aug 2013 22:23:40
Not the cleanest win but a win is a win. Got a little nervous when the second goal went in and when Kolo got sent off but a bit of class from Coutinho, Sturridge and Hendo was enough to see us through. Credit to Notts County though, they pushed us to the end. Hope Kolo's injury isn't as serious as it looks, could be out for a few weeks. Even more need for a top centre-back now!

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27 Aug 2013 22:19:55
So depending on how Toure's injury is, with Coates out for the season, Skrtel injured, Kelly not yet match fit that leaves us with Agger & Wisdom against Utd, Rodgers desperately needs to get back into the transfer market and bring in a quality CB with our injuries will it be Sakho, Alderwiereld or Papa.

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