Liverpool Banter Archive May 27 2015

27 May 2015 23:20:22
Anyone else find it staggering that we've given Toure another year, yet are putting a young defender with good potential in Ilori up for sale? Not to mention the money we paid for him.

Bizarre.

Cheers

{Ed030's Note - I agree, It's down to unneeded signings such as Toure as to why Liverpool are not bringing through these youth players and instead are wasting millions ever year on the wages of players such as Toure rather than developing talent such as Ilori. }

27 May 2015 23:57:59
I'd keep Toure and Ilori and sell Skrtel

28 May 2015 00:42:58
Totally concur Stured and Ed030! We as a club are not in a position such as say Chelsea whereby they brought Drogba back as a bit part player, with whom I can imagine was on grandiose wages.

Yes with Stevie gone our squad now lacks experience, but I simply can't comprehend why we would continue to pay high wages to a particular player that is purely and simply a squad player at best irrespective of "experience", and especially one that is average at best when he does occasionally come onto the field of play?

Don't get me wrong Toure comes across as a decent bloke, and every time there is a news conference or interview it is highlighted, and re-emphasised - what a good bloke he is, but why "employ" a player simply because he is a "good bloke"? . why not come out and tell it like it is . the bloke is a YES man, who fits the bill, the club unfortunately has a manager who is the ultimate YES man, we don't need players who follow the same "party" line . what we need are players who are First team level, and have the why for where to push and motivate themselves to put pressure on the entire squad to achieve a certain standard, not feel comfortable or happy merely to keep the bench warm!

{Ed001's Note - he showed, when not playing alongside Skrtel, that he can be an excellent player for us. The issue is not Toure, it is Skittles, time to get rid of him, he is on more than Toure as well.}

28 May 2015 02:15:45
You guys are overplaying illori like he will come good or something. Yes he may deserve a shot but if he doesn't work out which will most like be the case and we let go of one or even two established centre backs so we can bring in youth all the time I can assure you we won't be achieving anything anytime soon. We crave success but on modern football you need a balance, and more so for the experienced established players. They are the ones that know what it takes to win they are the leaders, if there was a Steven Gerard or Jamie carragher in the academy do you not think we would know about it. You know when someone is good enough, it's as simple as that and illori was never ever good enough for us.

28 May 2015 03:59:48
Toure should be first choice for a season. His experience and leadership is vital and a good run with Sakho could solidify our defence. Bring in a disciplined right back and a top GK and we would have a pretty strong defence.

Red Rum

28 May 2015 06:00:14
Stupid - sums up our approach to transfers and approach to our youth system. Toure offers nothing except average squad cover, I see no reason to keep him. Ilori has been mucked about since he joined and has never been given even a half chance - I feel sorry for the kid - also don't think this sort of thing helps endear our club to other young players either.

28 May 2015 08:05:25
Toure is a good player when not played right back,and played alongside a proper left sided centreback.
The best thing all round is to sell Skrtel and keep Ilori and toure.

{Ed001's Note - why is it the best thing to keep the overpaid useless centre half that makes all the others worse?? Skrtel is paid more and is terrible, he has no idea how to work as a partnership.}

28 May 2015 10:34:52
Agree totally ED001 I want Skrtel gone. I don't know if you were replying to me,or to some 1 else earlier in the thread there. :-/

28 May 2015 11:10:02
Ed001, bobatron is with you on that you just misread it.

I'm with the gang for keeping Toure and selling Skrtel definitely. I like Toure and the leadership he brings to the team. Once he is fit I think he is a good option and the younger players could learn a lot from him.

Skrtel splits all of the fans. I'm on the side who really wishes he would go, I don't rate him at all.

On Ilori, I haven't seen him so I don't know if he's the answer but it still seems odd if we sell him without giving him any chance. If he's any good at all then we should at least try him or else try loan him to a PL club for PL experience (and also so I can see him play a lot easier which is important of course!).

{Ed001's Note - sorry I misread it, apologies. I was still waking up at the time, and obviously still a bit bleary eyed to make such a stupid mistake.}

28 May 2015 19:37:53
If Ilori and many of the young players are being bought for good money YET are not given a chance, who`s fault is that? We will never know how good he and the other kids are until we have a manager willing and able to give them a chance. Those saying "if he doesn`t work out" and all. how will we know if he doesn`t pan out if we NEVER play him. Spent 7m on him YET haven`t even seen him on the bench. Which young player would wanna come here after that shambolic peice of management?

27 May 2015 22:45:24
I see reports that lazar markovic could be sold this summer! It's a bit early for that think he needs run of games in his natural position would be sad to see him go

27 May 2015 23:24:54
If someone offered £20m for him I'd let him go.

28 May 2015 00:01:59
He was never ready for the EPL. Ibe was more ready than he is yet BR loaned him out and brought in Marko who would need time which we don't have. He's a talented kid but we don't have the time to wait for him to grow, unfortunately. He did not sign himself. If we can get good money for him, let him go.

28 May 2015 07:35:36
Who do you think will pay £22 million pounds for him? Oh wait, we did.

28 May 2015 11:11:57
Better to keep him. I'd imagine you'd be looking more at £12m than £20m so let's keep him and play him in an attacking position to see whether or not he can adjust to the PL.

27 May 2015 22:29:10
Has Ancelotti ever managed a team that was not full of world class players?

27 May 2015 22:38:15
PSG 2011

27 May 2015 22:39:26
AC Milan was hardly "full of world class players" he had a few stars yes and some very, very good players, but I'd hardly say they were all world class.

27 May 2015 22:44:35
Pretty sure neither Reggiana nor Parma were full of world class players.

27 May 2015 22:53:34
hsf, he had kaka in his prime the best in the world at the time.

27 May 2015 23:06:39
Parma have always been deceptively full of talent in their youth Team.

28 May 2015 00:03:29
i consider his AC Milan side to be one of the best club sides I have ever seen. I mean look back at that starting eleven that night in Istanbul.

GK Dida
RB Cafu
CB Jaap Stam
CB Alessandro Nesta
LB Paolo Maldini (c)
DM Andrea Pirlo
RM Gennaro Gattuso
LM Clarence Seedorf
AM Kaká
CF Andriy Shevchenko
CF Hernán Crespo

That to me is what made that night even more special. The fact that an Lfc team including djimi traore, Harry kewell and Milan baros beat them is still amazing.

28 May 2015 06:04:52
You make a great point wassa. I'd say that the only "weak" points of that team were Seedorf (who's powers had significantly waned by the time we played them) and Gattuso (who, though a battler, has always struck me as a somewhat overrated player). No doubt about it though we punched so far above our weight it was insane. A special night, I'm happy I was actually able to see it in the flesh.

28 May 2015 08:16:31
Haych I hope you were taking the mick when saying 2011!!!! That wa sa team more than capable of winning its own dometics league and going on a decent cup run in europe.

The AC Milan squad has always been good for as long as I remember(Till 3 years ago).Pretty sure, he had Abiatti,maldini,schevchenko,Pirlo,Gattusso,etc when he took over. Once again a strong team,with a very good nucleus

27 May 2015 20:56:20
surely we need a manager that can attract big name players. As Kenny and Rafa did.

27 May 2015 21:13:23
Big wages and Champions league positions dictate that.

27 May 2015 21:39:39
You do realise we have never really bought world class talent. Ever!

Noone has attracted anymore than Brendan!

And the club will never go ib that direction with these owners (no critism but its not brendans fault were not after these so called world class players) itd the model we work under.

I know the others brought players that would turn into the world class bracket but they were not bought that way!

Alonso 10m, mash 17m, Torres 24mil, reins 4 mil

Suarez 22 mil

Coutinho 8 mil

27 May 2015 21:39:47
What big names did Kenny attract?

27 May 2015 21:54:32
Irish Rover he bought the biggest SUAREZ

27 May 2015 21:59:10
Irish Rover - Peter Beardsley, Glen Hysen (taking him from under Taggarts nose), Johnny Barnes, Rushie back from Juve, Steve McMahon, John Aldridge, Ray Houghton, Alan Shearer, David Batty, Tim Flowers. All part of league title winning teams.

27 May 2015 22:24:13
007,think you'll find hodgson had already signed Suarez before dalglish took over

27 May 2015 22:25:28
Lol. The OP shold have thrown Bob Paisley in as well. Total nonsense off course going back 20 odd years. i'm not surprised.

Ps Kenny did not bring Suarez. The deal was already done.

27 May 2015 22:27:49
Whoever the people are who disagree that KING KENNY never bought Suarez need to look it up as its a FACT and not a stat.

27 May 2015 22:40:28
Why's it nonsense Rover? Kenny attracted those players did he not?

27 May 2015 22:43:46
i think you will find dalgiesh spotted Suarez whilst commentating and bought him. Rodgers claimed it was him but was taking credit for something he didn't do.

27 May 2015 22:45:19
There was interest in Suarez before Keeny took over as caretaker and if you want facts surely Fsg signed him?

27 May 2015 23:01:49
Actually when have Liverpool ever signed a big named player? Havent all these players had the majority of their fame/success at Liverpool? Was Suarez a big name at Ajax or did he make his name at Lfc. What about Aldo, Alonso etc?

27 May 2015 23:04:36
Lallana £25m?
Lovren £20m?
Allen £15m?

That is what we are in for when we sell Sterling and have BR in charge to spend the money.

27 May 2015 23:23:19
So Hodgson attracted Suarez???

28 May 2015 00:17:07
KK oversaw the final lap of Suarez's arrival but it was Roy who sparked the deal and laid the ground work. Suarez was already bent on coming here before KK took over

27 May 2015 23:23:41
Whoever pressed disagree to the Kenny signings would you please let me know which of the said players you disagree he signed.

28 May 2015 05:17:06
Suarez was the captain of Ajax. They were holding on to 35 Mil for suarez , due to his biting habit, we got him for 22 Mil.

Same with barcelona they got him for 65-70 Mil reduced prize due to biting. still it is considered bargain. Think what hell of a player he is.

He was already known player while playing for ajax and his handball against Khana.

28 May 2015 07:40:59
Irish Rover's point was about KD's second spell as Manager at LFC, not what happened a quarter of a century ago. But sure, LFC fans like to throw the past in your face whenever any sort of discussion is on-going.

And to answer the OP's question, a big manager does attract big players, but none of these big names would take a huge pay cut to join LFC now with Rodgers in charge, and no CL football.

Liverpool FC attracted Luis Suarez, not Hodgson, Dalglish or Benitez.

28 May 2015 09:46:03
This is just wrong

27 May 2015 20:07:38
A bit pedantic I know, considering everything else that's going on with LFC at the moment, but am loving the Sevilla kit in tonight's Europa Final. Plain red. It's what ours should be really. And it's made by NB.

27 May 2015 20:50:18
Don't know i like our new kit. more than this last one

27 May 2015 19:56:56
Alan Pardew had 3 premier league games against us this season and he won every one, sums up how bad we are.

27 May 2015 20:30:08
You can twist any stat to suit an argument. For example Swansea did the double over Arsenal,shows how bad they were. Swansea did the double over Man U, shows how bad they were etc etc

27 May 2015 20:55:16
Nice comment red since 😉

27 May 2015 20:55:49
Its not a STAT its a FACT he did it with TWO different clubs. Two different sets of players . Two different styles of play. The FACT is he took nine points out of nine available.

27 May 2015 20:57:26
It does help tho when the team was bad.

27 May 2015 21:16:33
Scraping the barrel that Mr Bond.

27 May 2015 21:30:36
007, if the stats are correct, then they are factual, no? So, as mentioned, you can twist and stat or fact, to suit an argument.

27 May 2015 22:05:16
The TRUTH is he BEAT us 3 times. You are obviously pro RODGERS in the way you are defending him , for what making the club the biggest LAUGHING STOCK since OXO CUBES???

27 May 2015 22:25:15
We beat him in the cup.

28 May 2015 00:28:41
And your point? I am not pr BR but can't fathom what point you are trying to make. Who was in charge at Newcastle when brand his team massacred them at St. James Park 6-0? Exactly, the fact I just ported is pointless just like yours is.

27 May 2015 19:09:50
Any thoughts on bringing some experience in to help with the young squad ?
Cambiasso has had a good season. Could he do a Macallister role for us ?
Cheers
RedTed

27 May 2015 20:57:09
Pirlo, Alonso, Milner throw the kitchen sink to get one of the first two in! Absolutely perfect for how we want to play!

27 May 2015 18:49:40
More chance of David Walliams not giving a standing ovation to ANY camp act on BGT, no matter how bad, than Ancelotti becoming Liverpool manager.

Time to stop dreaming boys .

27 May 2015 20:10:10
Have to agree. Unfortunately. Would take him in a heartbeat.

27 May 2015 20:27:32
You'd take david Williams in a heartbeat?,does your mrs know

27 May 2015 21:04:29
Ha. I'd nearly have Walliams manage us than Brendoom right now.

27 May 2015 21:33:15
I would rather watch that wee Irish Billy Elliot boy dance again than have Rogers manage the team next year ha ha.

27 May 2015 21:37:05
Its a No from me

27 May 2015 21:37:11
He'd certainly sort us out at the back

27 May 2015 22:51:58
Fill a few gaps, plug a few holes!! let's get him in.

27 May 2015 18:38:56
Ed s reds going to watch the europa final word love monchi and emery yo come to lfc!!!!!.

27 May 2015 18:58:46
Same bud but i believe they both have several other options which ed2 has explained on the european pages if i'm correct ed?

27 May 2015 21:13:00
Yep Dorset napoli being one I think but the premier league still has a big pull i just think they would be perfect for us.

27 May 2015 18:15:20
Hi Ed002,

I've seen you mention quite a few times that the club's asking price for Balo was too high for anyone to bite. Although I'm not asking for specifics or any numbers, I'm just curious as to whether the club would make a profit if a club was actually stupid enough to bite at the asking price?

Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - This is sort of why we don't talk numbers - his cost to Liverpool is not just the transfer fee, but a signing on fee, outrageous agent and other representative fees, wages, insurance etc.. So I don't want to go there.}

27 May 2015 19:02:44
Just in the transfer fee alone Liverpool are going to take a hiding to get rid of him. Nobody on their right mind is going to pay more than £4m for him and even then he's over-priced. Yet 12 months ago we paid £16m.

And therein lies a problem. I assume the club will be looking to recoup most of the £16m out;ay - which simply is not going to happen and the only way we will get rid of him is to be big boys and take the loss on the chin.

27 May 2015 21:28:48
if you get in a different manager who actually will play him instead of leaving him to rot like he's broken both his legs then maybe he will produce more. i'm sure with a manager like ancelotti or klopp he'd at least be value for 12-15 goals throughout a season(all competitions), which would be better than selling him for peanuts.

28 May 2015 00:16:03
Bizarrely enough I agree with you Haych - get in another pacy striker like Sturridge alongside him and play him in a front 2 and I think he'll be very effective. I'd still prefer we sold him as he's not a natural fit for our play, but he can definitely add something different if we need to switch it up so why sell for peanuts.

27 May 2015 17:17:50
Just a personal view. I read today that Mario B's agent today said that Mario will be at Liverpool FC next season. I think this means Brendon will be moved on, IMO this is Mario saying "il give it one more season under a new manager here" personally; i would have mixed emotions on both counts!

{Ed002's Note - Which new manager is Mario choosing?}

27 May 2015 18:46:17
I'd imagine Mario would probably nominate Super for the role.

27 May 2015 16:23:30
Balotelli is staying according to his agent.

{Ed002's Note - Posturing to get the price reduced if he has said that. He did mention before that Balotelli would see his contract run down rather than move somewhere he doesn't want to go. All posturing.}

27 May 2015 17:32:51
Very cunning by his agent Ed. Stating he's staying so we bow down to him and allow him to leave cheaper than what we want for him.

Hope we do move him on, clearly he's not wanted.

{Ed002's Note - It is hardly cunning - it is a simple case of the stupidity that thinks anyone will pay the price Liverpool are asking.}

27 May 2015 18:25:36
If we think that we can recoup what we paid for him, then I would agree with you ed

27 May 2015 18:48:01
AC Milan managed to largely do so, Steph1. Sadly I don't know if there another side out there as poor as us at transfers to offload him to.

27 May 2015 20:44:33
Liverpool was his last chance to prove himself RDL. In a way he did prove himself but not the way we would of like and sadly not in the way to warrant a decent transfer fee

27 May 2015 22:19:26
He's 24. I'm sure he has more chances to prove himself. If it weren't balotelli, people would say "give him some time"

28 May 2015 06:15:32
Another player wouldn't be as lazy and disruptive as Balotelli. The problem with the lad is that he brings a whole host of negatives, on and off the pitch, which do nothing but cause issues for the club he is at. His laziness will be his undoing and, as he shows no will to change, seems a pointless player to keep at the club - all it will do is drain the wage bill and ultimately undermine the team. It can't be good for the squad to go into training and see Balotelli's half arsed attempts at building up his fitness - it sends a bad message and could be especially problematic to our youngsters - we need to get rid whilst the name 'Balotelli' still has some stock left in it.

27 May 2015 15:12:30
over the last couple of seasons I've read posts on here and a lot of fans go on about the money side of signing a player but to be honest the club make enough money to pay big wages so i don't worry about how much a top players wages are going to be, i also am realistic enough to know that if we want top players who are going to improve the team are going to be on high wages and if that wins us the prem then them players will be worth every penny, that's why i can't understand fans on here who moan about how much wages a player wants, all the top teams pay the wages and they win things, we can't win anything by getting players who are not on high wages because it will mean the player is not good enough, a lot of fans did not want fabregas because they thought he was not good enough and that he would want big wages well he helped chelsea win the prem so again to me he would have been worth every penny in wages we won't win anything on a shoestring budget, i know we were 5th in the wage bill and untill the last game we were 5th in the prem, the top 2 in the wages will most probably be chelsea and man city maybe not in that order but you can't escape the fact that they came 1st and 2nd and man city won the prem last season, as I've said chelsea got fabregas and they won the prem they finished 5th last season without paying the money for him in his transfer fee and the wages, while our fans are moaning about his wages chelsea win the prem with him, maybe if we would have got him he would have been the difference in were we finished to finishing in the top 4 and being in the champs league, oh well i still see fans on here going on about players wages being too much i wonder when these fans will wake up and realise to win thing you have to have top players who will want top wages, you can't say don't pay top wages then moan we can't get top players, because its easy for a player to chose who is going to pay him the most if we don't pay the going rate for that player then he will never sign for us anyway

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea do not have either of the highest wage bills.}

27 May 2015 16:01:43
hi ed002

are they higher than us in the wages league though

{Ed002's Note - Yes, but it is of no relevance.}

27 May 2015 13:09:04
Sorry for two questions in a day ed ( thanks for the info on the Fifa case btw )
I was just curious, if it's not about the money to young raheem, why has he not handed in a transfer request? What bonus', privileges would he be losing by handing in a request. I thought it was just a loyalty bonus? Scratching my head as his agent said he wouldn't sign a £900,000 contract, but yet to hand in a transfer request.

{Ed002's Note - He loses 5% of Liverpool's proportion of the transfer fee if he hands in a transfer request. He is to some extent, probably almost entirely, just doing as instructed.}

27 May 2015 15:37:06
ed002 ,

i have to disagree with you that he is doing everything his agent his telling him , he has been at the club for years now and he has had other agents , he knows this is the wrong way to treat the club and if he wanted to leave he knows he can hand a transfer request in , but one thing that's for sure he is his own man he has a child so to say he is getting bad advice i don't believe it , i think he thinks he is better than he really is and when he does move the reality will set in and he will sack his agent , a lot of wiser people have told him to stay because he is getting game time , stevie has told him as well but he has chosen to ignore his team mates and that has got nothing to do with his agent , this is what gets me with him a lot of people are saying its down to the agent and taking the blame away from sterling at the end of it all no matter what happens sterling still has the final say don't get me wrong his agent is a bad one but sterling knows what's going on and can put a stop to it all at any time he wants

{Ed002's Note - He is a child and not a particularly bright one. If you think it is his idea to screw with the club, make arrangements for and give an interview not authorised by the club and, presumably in your view, force his agent to give stupid statements to newspapers about him you are far from correct. As for his team mates, the majority are DFs like him. His agent is what is behind this - he is simply like you and many of the Liverpool fans, gullible and easily led. Lemmings springs to mind.}

27 May 2015 17:02:29
I read the agent has only been operating on his own a few months, used to be an employee at a sports agency company before that.
He's probably trying to make a name for himself to become one of these "super agents". Trying a little too hard in my eyes.

{Ed002's Note - He is simply a registered FIFA agent - no more than that.}

27 May 2015 17:05:47
dont hold back Ed02. lol

27 May 2015 18:27:53
Super agent? More like Super DF, IMO

27 May 2015 19:07:44
he needs that 5% for his children's maintenance

27 May 2015 11:19:49
Ahoy - How far will this FIFA investigation go ?

Should I contact the authorities as I feel I could be involved with the Money Laundering / funding of crime aspect of the investigation ?

I paid 12 times the face value for a "Naranjito" shiny (number 4)sticker to complete my Espana 82 Pannini album to a nameless school yard fiend. (They may disregard by 12 Phil Neals & 4 Paul Mariners involved in the transaction)

BOILED ONIONS

27 May 2015 11:28:57
Amazing mascot!

27 May 2015 22:41:55
I am on the phone to the giant FBI man, you will soon be wearing orange boiled onions

27 May 2015 10:17:22
Today is a good day for football. It could be the end of Fifa ? End of blatter ? I find it surprising his number 2 is arrested and not him. do you think this will affect the vote ed002? Heard any reactions from any FA member ? What's next for Fifa do you think ?
Sorry, just excited they've been caught.

{Ed002's Note - The United States Justice Department does not work quickly and such an issue could take a long time to come to court in the United States. Everything else will be a wait and see what happens situation. The Swiss have acted as a result of information provided by the US which is, I understand, compelling enough for them to begin a separate investigation. The immediate impact will likely be on CONCACAF and on a number of accounts being frozen (certainly any in US Jurisdiction).

The potential long-term impact in Europe will be discussed when a number of clubs meet at the end of August. There is a potential that one (actually up to three) of those clubs could look to have an earlier meeting to discuss the way forward.}

27 May 2015 10:35:51
Hi Ed

Would the meeting in August be related to the breakaway league?

Also I know this may also sound like a silly question but I know Fifa is governing body of football but isn't European football governed by Uefa?

Thanks

{Ed002's Note - The meeting in August addresses lots of different issues that major European sides have, television rights, concerns over sponsorship, inconsistent approaches by separate FAs, the pan-European league, FFP, and a whole host of other stuff.

And European football is indeed run under UEFA. They have attended these meetings on occasion - when asked.}

27 May 2015 11:50:35
Thanks for the reply

27 May 2015 11:50:35
Thanks for the reply

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

27 May 2015 12:51:02
Talk sport radio suggest the 2018 World Cup could be played in England or Germany/Holland and the 2022 World Cup in the US as they were runners-up in the bidding.
If this turns out to be the case and England get the 2018 WC, could liverpool receive a cash injection to finish the stadium redevelopment ready to host WC games?

Cheers

{Ed001's Note - that won't happen, Australia have a very real case for legal action regarding the 2022 World Cup, for starters.}

27 May 2015 15:13:53
I have to disagree Ed001, As an Australian, I would love for the World Cup to be played here, but I think that based on our amateurish bid video with stupid cartoon kangaroos bounding all over the place and bloody crocodile Dundee making an appearance, I think that's more than enough to put the kibosh on any legal action LOL.

{Ed002's Note - The Australian legal case would be against the reasons given for the bid not being successful, and probably won't mention kangaroos at all.}

27 May 2015 15:53:40
Ed002, i'm not sure you got the humour in what I wrote.

{Ed002's Note - I am serious, you should see if you can find a photograph of the final tender document.}

27 May 2015 16:43:38
Ed for them to have a legal case for why it was rejected, it has to be a dumb reason right ? The 2022 is quatar, so I'd say Australia was told it would be too hot ? Lol!? what was the reasoning given ed?

{Ed002's Note - It was because Australia proposed a December to February window and FIFA discounted it because it needed to be in June-July.}

27 May 2015 17:27:48
Is this for the general good of football or the Americans lending a supportive hand for the third time?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about. If it is xenophobic pig ignorance, which it appears to be, then you would do better to keep it to yourself.}

27 May 2015 17:52:16
Wow Ed, i'm gobsmacked, i was only joking. Surely then as the world cup has been announced for winter, australia should at least get their bidding fee back.

{Ed002's Note - It is way more complicated than that - and certainly if it were that simple FIFA would give it back. But incredibly significant payments have already been made by one organization in relation to that tournament that FIFA could potentially get in to a bigger hole if Australia were to win a legal case - and that will be asking for no more than the tender process to be re-run.}

27 May 2015 18:14:28
Once again your'e to kind for the information shared. If you're ever in oxford you'll have to let me know, i could pick your brain for hours! Ill ask only one more question, as I'm sure you're sick of answering me, do you see a re-run for the 2018 and 2022 world cup hosting?

{Ed002's Note - Certainly not 2018 and I would not like to call the state of the game by 2022.}

27 May 2015 18:30:23
FIFA is the most corrupt organization on the plannet. Even corrution-infested dictatorships don`t come anywhere close this shameless excuse of an organization

{Ed002's Note - I can think of far worse. One based about 1,00 miles southwest of Houston is far worse.}

27 May 2015 23:06:38
Strange why Australia would ask for that window. It can reach easy 45 degrees in most States in those months. Probably just wanted to keep it away from Aussie rules and rugby league.

27 May 2015 09:48:36
So from what I can gather at the moment if we are to sign a striker the most probably or most obtainable would be Ings or mandzukic? Ings we know about being a premier league player but don't know much about mandzukic as I don't watch Spanish football. For those of us that don't watch la liga eds any chance of a brief explanation of what kind of player he is? Or instead, is the player profile page still running and could a profile be made for him?
Thanks eds

{Ed002's Note - I have not said anything like that. I have no idea whether or not the player profile page is running but I certainly don't have the time to describe what players are "like".}

27 May 2015 11:22:52
Mandzukic from what I've seen of him is physically strong, has very good technique, is a proper finisher and good in the air. Only thing against him is his age.

27 May 2015 13:11:35
Cheers Mr D

{Ed001's Note - he is not in the running to join us from what I know of him.}

27 May 2015 13:52:24
Thanks ed001 I asked the question because ed002 stated further down the page that we showed recent interest in the player in a reply about benteke that's all, I didn't know anything about the player so thought I would ask. If it's a no go then it doesn't matter, thanks though mate.

{Ed001's Note - he has Champions League clubs that are interested, we are out of the running now we are not in next season's comp.}

27 May 2015 14:01:14
No probs that's all we need to know.

27 May 2015 09:03:47
Eds do you think that a midfielder will be looked at to replace Stevie G, or do you think that we can get Lucas to stay? I think our Midfield is quite good with Henderson, Lucas, Can, Lallana as a 4-4-2 and a diamond with the likes of Ibe at the tip. I think now is time to start to integrate our quality youth players.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has been looking at midfield players.}

27 May 2015 08:39:56
{Ed001's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Liverpool Season Review

27 May 2015 04:31:13
Hello Eds.

Eds is there any truth in the Tony Barrett's latest article? It is really worrying situation for the fans as the owner's are making the same mistakes.
1.signing benteke.
2.Signing Milner(which is not what we need at the moment)
3.Planning to keep rodgers and not implementing the structure of DOF.

THANKS

{Ed001's Note - I don't read Tony Barrett's article to know what he is writing.}

27 May 2015 07:58:01
Not read it. Milner is no mistake. All ex players, managers etc say having senior pros around, players who have won titles etc are important. Rather Milner running our midfield next to Henderson and Can over Joe Allen.

27 May 2015 08:36:21
Well said Renn. Fully agree about Milner. Good pro, good player. As for Benteke, i would be pleased, i know the eds don't agree but i think he could do a job for us.

27 May 2015 08:16:00
I'm in for Milner and Benteke. Rodgers needs to go. He is the poster boy for mediocrity.

27 May 2015 08:20:19
Completely agree Max. How anyone can say that Milner is a mistake when you look at what we have in midfield to choose from is beyond me.

27 May 2015 09:40:27
Milner is a better ballet than Henderson

27 May 2015 09:30:30
Ed001, if you don't mind me asking for your view, how do you see Milner fitting in? Playing in partnership with Henderson or competing for the same spot? I myself would think they would be competing for the same spot.

27 May 2015 10:13:11
I agree Max , these fans saying we don't need milner don't have a clue , if we get him it will be the transfer of the last 2 season's I don't know when fan's on here will learn fan's on here did not want fabregas because some thought and said he was not good enough and he would cost too much in wages and look how well he did for Chelsea its known that he helped them to the title oh well the fans who was against him knew better and now they don't want milner for the same reasons they won't know of how good he was before going to man city the fact is if we don't get him I will be gutted the man will run our midfield he has all the attributes

27 May 2015 11:21:45
How about the fact that Milner isn't actually a centre midfielder? He is a winger and a very average one at that, yes he runs around a lot, but what does he offer that we don't have already? Frankly I don't want another square peg in a round hole, we have seen enough of that this season.

If somehow you think a centre midfield pairing of Milner and Henderson is going to paper over that massive hole in our midfield then you are sadly mistaken.

27 May 2015 19:01:53
Don`t know where the love-in with milner came from? he is NOT what we need if we wanna go to the next level. We need 2-4 top players because the squad is more than decent BUT he is not one of them. He`s a good pro, experienced, etc. Aren`t Can, Hendo, Lucas, Couts all good pros, talented and hardworking? So why`s he any diff? because he isn`t. Sorry, I did not know that being a good and hard working pro was a quality. It should b a requirement and not a quality. And where is he going to play because he`s a jack of all trades just like Can who`s a better player potentially? We need the right manager and goals from all over the field and we should focus on those instead of dwelling on the arrival of Milner who will add nothing more than what we already have, IMO.

26 May 2015 23:51:01
Benteke rumours gathering pace now.
It's starting to become a pattern now with Rodgers, he's only able to buy these players who are at lower clubs who would jump at the chance to join Liverpool.
It's last season all over again regarding transfers.
IMO Danny ings is better than benteke and he's on a free, he's quicker, can run in behind and just as good in the air, and he presses defenders all the time.
I fail to see the logic behind buying benteke for what could get close to 30m when there's much better more mobile strikers out there.
GK needs to be sorted out i'd pay whatever Chelsea want for cech or begovic.
Skrtle needs replacing and Lovren isn't the answer.
and RB and LB imo both need improving, flano is injured and Moreno has just been woeful.
These are important positions, which year after year Rodgers fails to see. And just buys attackers.

27 May 2015 00:39:00
''Danny Ings is just as good in the air as Christian Benteke''. imagine saying that.

27 May 2015 01:04:41
I don't think we will ever see our defense improve significantly unless we get a defensive coach in or a new manager.

Rodgers has spent the last 3 years playing hungry hungry hippos with various centre backs with Toure, Can, Skrtel, Agger, Carra, Kelly, Sakho, Lovren, Ilori, Wisdom and Jones all at the club and none of them being 'the' solution.

At what point do we just say its the manager and not the players.

27 May 2015 03:49:12
Danny ings was too scared to take a penalty to help his side stay up. hardly the mentality we want at Liverpool, if he can't handle the pressure at Burnley what chance does he have at a big club? Whilst I don't think we play to bentekes strengths he would be an infinitely better option that ings. He can defend set pieces ( as well as score from them) and can bully defences and most importantly he can score goals. He's no suarez but we need players that the opposition need to worry about ( as they did with Luis) - Benteke certainly can do that if used correctly ( ie don't let BR play him as a CB)

27 May 2015 07:28:29
Benny C. You can buy good players from lower league teams. Its just the scouts jobs to find the right ones. Bertrand for instance, would you have picked him instead of Moreno and save yourself £5 million. Personally i have very little faith in whoever picks our players. So many wrong ones and not just under Rodgers but that is always highlighted when a team isn't doing so well i guess.

{Ed001's Note - it would have been a saving of about 10m.}

27 May 2015 08:18:05
£10 million? That would pay a top managers wage for a year plus!

27 May 2015 08:18:53
You all say that now, but who on here wasn't slating bertrand last summer?

{Ed002's Note - I wasn't - I spent the summer explaining what a good and cheap option he was for Liverpool.}

27 May 2015 09:38:00
I wasnt! Basically because i admit i have no knowledge of how good a footballer is or can be simply by watching him on a Tv screen. Some posters on the other hand!

27 May 2015 09:38:17
dwarf, many here were slating Bertrand needlessly IMO. I myself would have thought that an experienced PL left back, with European experience and CL winners medal would have been an excellent buy. Judging by his performances this season, it seems it was a mistake not to buy him and save 8 - 10 million in the process. I think he is a good player. Though, as Mourinho was prepared to cut him loose, he was deemed crap by many here.

27 May 2015 11:18:51
I agree, but people on here tend to gravitate towards exotic last names over homegrown talent. Still a shame that Moreno has been so horribly utilised by Rodgers

27 May 2015 13:34:11
I remember the Bertrand posts, I remember Ed002 mentioning he would be a good signing alright.

I was definitely against signing him. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, Bertrand has had his best season yet and he made the PL team of the season. Looking back on it now do I think he would have been a better signing than Moreno? Yes, definitely. Did I think that at the time? I didn't know of Moreno so I never commented on his ability.

If I had the chance to go back my opinion wouldn't change. I didn't want him as I didn't see him as good enough for challenging for titles and regular top champions league quality. I still don't think he's at that level but unfortunately we have gone from 2nd to 6th so challenging for league titles and top champions league quality isn't where we are at.

27 May 2015 13:41:19
I spent the whole summer taking stick for telling you he was better than Moreno.

27 May 2015 19:25:48
I don`t think Mou would have sold to us but doesn`t look like we ever tried so we`ll never know.