Liverpool Banter Archive March 27 2015

27 Mar 2015 21:41:41
Wow ! Hats off to Woy Hodgeson tonight for using Liverpools full back Raheem Sterling in an advanced attacking position. Hope Brendan was watching

27 Mar 2015 23:04:05
Maybe Roy got the idea from the four or five months he played as a striker and not pick the few times he didn't,

28 Mar 2015 00:18:57
And I thought this Hodgeson guy had his chance with LFC and back then we didn't have so many compliments (cynical or not) from the fans about his formation or the way he used this or other player.

27 Mar 2015 21:23:59
The 'spoilt brat' has scored one and assisted one tonight.

27 Mar 2015 23:07:49
His ability overall is and has NEVER been in doubt.

28 Mar 2015 08:11:32
The big red f did Rooney set 1 up didn't see that.

27 Mar 2015 19:05:08
Eds, with the whole sterling saga is it fsg again trying to squeeze every pound from everything, sterling is by and large our best player, from his point of view he doesn't want to be on the same wages as skrtel/lallana estimated 80k pw . Sturridge is rumoured to be on 150k a week and sterling is probably more important to the club than he is.

I'd hate to see us lose our best young player and with the departues of Suarez and next Gerrard fsg can match his demands, it seems like ayre and fsg are too strict on negotiations such as when we could have signed mikhytaran/willian etc.

Personally I want ayre gone and a new dof who can try to have us doing what Chelsea are doing

{Ed001's Note - Studger is not on 150k, Gerrard is the highest paid player at the club.}

27 Mar 2015 20:48:15
The club has to live within its means, that's the bottom line! They will be able to pay more, I would imagine, once the stadium expansion is bringing in more corporate revenue and under the tv deal. Plus it might help if we regularly qualified for the CL

28 Mar 2015 08:55:59
I thought we were ment to be leading the way among the premiership with the way we include performance related pay/bonuses into new contracts.
If this is to be believed, all the haggling could be over this?

The basic is set similar to all the other players, but you can negotiate on the bonus.
Not sure if it works like this but seems a fair way to do things.
Players really pushing themselves to reach theses bonus markers and get rewarded well for reaching them.

27 Mar 2015 17:38:50
Question for ED001 if possible:

With Sturridge out do you think there is anyone in the youth or reserve teams which we could give a chance? I'd really hate to see us spend another 20m in the summer on a player who won't fit in or provide what we are looking for.

Surely with robbie helping out our youth strikers should be dynamite?

Nevada

{Ed001's Note - Sinclair for me. He needs a run of games.}

27 Mar 2015 18:16:40
2/3 years top young imo. I think vietto or a striker of the same elk needs to be the priority this summer

27 Mar 2015 18:21:32
Sinclair is on loan at wigan and on his first game he was a sub and his second he didn't make the match day squad but hey having done so well on loan so far let's throw him in at the deep end. Give Borini or balotelli a go it might add a million to their price if they do half well

27 Mar 2015 19:32:58
If Sinclair was patrick bamford then I'd completely agree with ed001 btw I just think it's been shown Sinclair isn't up to it right now

27 Mar 2015 23:16:26
Give the boy a chance. He`s only 17/18 years old.

28 Mar 2015 09:34:08
He is better than Bamford from what I have seen.
Miles better.
Only my opinion though and I hate slating young players. and Bamford has done well at Middlesborugh.

28 Mar 2015 13:56:56
Miles better than bamford based on what exactly? One is the top scorer for one one the best sides in the championship and the other didn't make the squad for one of the lower teams in the championship in their last game. One has scored goals in men's football one hasn't. One has done very well for u18, 19 & 21s but has barely played 45mins men's football. Bamford is undoubtably the better player right now perhaps Sinclair has better potential though

29 Mar 2015 08:31:53
What does that matter, Sinclair has only just joined Wigan.
How can you judge them based on selection anyway?
Pardew picked Hayden Mullins over Macherano at West Ham.
That makes him better than Mascherano by your logic!!

27 Mar 2015 11:51:44
Sturridge actually wanted to play more than Rodgers wanted. The manager is and rightly so blamed for a lot but sturridge is injury prone. This summer we definitely need in a 20 plus goal striker.
Big blow for us. Can't see us making CL atall now. a lot of change needed this summer not players but structure of club. To have sturridge out and no quailty striker to replace him is criminal

{Ed002's Note - Balotelli, Borini, Lambert, Sterling, Markovic are all there and can do a job.}

27 Mar 2015 12:18:47
Put Borini on Brendan give him a go he might suprise you.
(Yeh I no he won't be reading this)

27 Mar 2015 12:28:02
A job ed2? More like volentry work. Haha

27 Mar 2015 12:33:21
Sturridge is our only real goal threat in that position, I can't see any of the others getting one goal between them, I think we can safely assume that is Brendans P45 signed and sealed.

27 Mar 2015 12:38:38
They all got plenty of opportunities. Sterling did OK in the striker role given that he is better in midfield. The rest got many chances and were just not up to it. Markovich can run on the line and defend, he is not a finisher. All these people who say if only you will give this or the other chance. Ibe showed in the first 20 minutes on the pitch that he is good enough for us. Borini and Lambert got much mroe than that and they are not good enough. They can score an occasional goal, with some luck. Not more than that. as for Baloteli, I wrote enough here what I think about him, will not repeat it.

27 Mar 2015 12:53:33
Edd002 for the length of time sturridge is missing not one of them is a quailty goalscorer.
Sterling has been poor all season and is not a goalscorer. Imo borini, ballotelli and lambert will likely depart this summer and origi is no world class" striker. Funds will be a problem

{Ed002's Note - I fear for the day Liverpool fans have nothing to moan about.}

27 Mar 2015 13:09:14
Agree to an extent but unfortunately BR is not willing to switch up our tactics in the way they need to be switched to make Lambert and Balotelli a real goal threat. Borini, Sterling and Markovic all fit better tactically but their finishing is fairly suspect (or at least has been for this year so far).

27 Mar 2015 19:16:15
Agree Markovic hasn't been clinical but it is his first year and that crazy volley he had that flashed wide was an amazing effort. Why is everyone so quick to write off all our players? After so long without class up top Torres ad suarez come in and all of a sudden it's come to do this. Just because your wife doesn't look like the girl from the blurred lines video( I had to look it up myself glad I did) doesn't mean she can't be a suarez with some time at the gym.

28 Mar 2015 18:06:40
You'll be waiting a long time Ed002.
If only you got 10p for every time we moaned. You would be able to retire.

27 Mar 2015 11:38:28
We will never achieve anything with sturridge as our main striker. We either need to sell him (so we have the funds to buy a striker of quality that isn't made of wet paper) or sell another of our best assets (coutinho & sterling are the only ones that could single handedly raise the funds). I like vietto but he looks mighty similar to how aspas looked I must point out he's a good player but would be a risk and should only be a number 2 striker if we got him (unlikely) ings or Austin would be good and obtainable number twos but in a perfect world we sell sturridge and buy dzeko, jovetic, falcao, higuan (I know all of these would probably be impossible even with CL but "shoot for the moon land in the stars" etc) so in my opinion sell: sturridge, balo, lambert, borini, aspas, alberto, skrtel, Lucas. Please don't say "football manager not real life" or "another season of tranition" because only 4 of them are 1st 11/bench players. I would hope for around £50m for the lot & hopefully that'll get us a well respected big tent type striker. Milner on a free (not so free) for the midfield and a keeper meaning a totally self sufficient window and I know your first thought will be wages minus gerrard, Johnson, balo, studge, Lucas and skrtel there's a massive massive chunk down

27 Mar 2015 12:30:55
I stopped reading at falcao.

27 Mar 2015 13:10:28
If you don't want people to point out that real life isn't footy manager, don't post footy manager plans

27 Mar 2015 13:29:52
You should have continued to see the part where I said I know all of these would probably be impossible

27 Mar 2015 13:42:20
Hmm, not sure Jovetic or Falcao are the answers if you're looking for strikers without injury and fitness issues.

27 Mar 2015 20:15:52
Falcao had 1 bad injury and has an idiot manager who refuses to give him a run of games and constantly puts him on with 20 minutes left in matches where UTD play defensively as they've already won. Once he gets match fitness I am of no doubt Falcao will go back to being a top striker.

27 Mar 2015 22:50:41
Milner? FFS good job you aren't in charge.

27 Mar 2015 23:29:34
I fear for him as well as Studge because his injury takes a while to come back from normally. Now laying in a league that IMO, does not suit him, playing in a hoofball team that is coached by a dinosaur, he might have no chance at getting back to his best. He needs to either leave the PL or play in an EPL team that plays fluid footie.

28 Mar 2015 09:38:29
I think Jovetic is an option to consider.
Not gone well for him at City so far and they might be tempted to get rid.
I think he would be great in our side but I have to say that where he plays is probably the position we need to strengthen the least.
We have a fair few players who can play that number 10 role.

{Ed002's Note - He won't be joining Liverpool. He is not an option.}

28 Mar 2015 16:38:19
Another sicknote dodged.

29 Mar 2015 08:32:50
Thanks ed. why not?
Is he lined up already?

{Ed002's Note - Sorry Jonny - I can't help you.}

27 Mar 2015 08:38:51
Are there any autobiographies out there which gives a little insight into players of our recent history (last ten years, not from 1960s)? I have scrolled through some recent posts from this last week and Ed001s comments on Gerrard were the most interesting thing I've read about . for years maybe?
I could read Eds insight into what Gerrard is all about all day long.

27 Mar 2015 09:55:16
What has he said about gerrard?

27 Mar 2015 10:10:26
Was just about to ask the same question Fencey.
Barry inLouth

27 Mar 2015 17:35:35
Some people on the forum (myself and ED001 included) have called into question Gerrards character on a few occasions and also questioned his backroom influence and how it has been used. I don't believe that anyone wants to elaborate on it more than that as it is a very divisive topic which tends to cause the Eds far too much aggravation as some fans on here are incapable of accepting this alternate perspective of Gerrard.

Just to re-iterate, nobody has questioned his talent or the good things he has done on the pitch.

Nevada

27 Mar 2015 18:07:51
As I said. I scrolled down and read previous posts with comments from 001. It relates to his behind doors attitude and influence. Where he plays, what he's paid etc. just so interesting i'd love to read more about it.

27 Mar 2015 06:00:53
Studge out for unknown period, hip injury 😩

27 Mar 2015 07:51:01
It's a month out.

{Ed002's Note - The club has said nothing of the sort.}

27 Mar 2015 08:50:24
reports saying its a slight hip tear, no mention of any timeline. wait for the clubs announcement.

27 Mar 2015 10:24:13
Seriously if they ever do unbreakable 2 and Samuel l Jackson isn't about give Danny a shout.

27 Mar 2015 10:54:32
Just to translate - an early prediction of a month out for Sturridge usualy mean at least two. We will be lucky to get him for the cup final if we get there which will be quite difficult without him.

I think at least it is clear as crystal even more now what is our summer target. We need a 20 goal a season non-injury prone striker that can run with the ball (i.e. not another balotelli). And if we need to sell half of squad for that and this being our one and only purchase this summer so be it.

Anyone knows how is Lallana and Lovern and when are they due back?

27 Mar 2015 12:42:29
Word is that it will be a month.

I think you can safely say that is the season over, honestly can't see where our goals are going to come from now, its all very well saying that Borini, Balotelli, Sterling or Lambert can play there, but none of them have been effective in that position this season(Sorry but i'm not buying that Sterling can be a false nine, that's just nonsense) and I don't believe that Markovic would be effective there either as he simply isn't a striker.

Thanks for last season Brendan, but don't let the door hit you on the way out.

27 Mar 2015 13:14:59
Does no-one remember that Sturridge was injured twice last season, came back quicker than expected both times and scored on his first match back both times? Including one where he went on a 10 game scoring run?

27 Mar 2015 16:08:53
Sure it's not a twisted sock?

Ffs, has there been anyone since Darren anderton who is as sick note prone as DS? He seems to rip and tear things (not just your bog standard strain or pull) almost every week!

Man up Dan. have some scouse and get some hairs on your chest.

27 Mar 2015 18:10:51
Am I remembering this wrong? Did we win any games or score any goals during DS' last injury spell?

28 Mar 2015 00:23:56
Seem to remember our right back filled in quite nicely up front. might be worth another go.

28 Mar 2015 09:11:14
He is missing for the next 3 games tho marshy.
What master stroke will our manager play this time? Maybe bring Lovren out of semi retirement and stick him up top. 😁