Liverpool Banter Archive January 27 2013
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27 Jan 2013 22:19:49
What would people think of Shawcross or Hangelaand?
Good long names but not one I'd call my child
Hangeland is a tad old, unfortunately, but a good CB.
Fulham are not exactly water-tight, and Shawcross is not really a footballer.
Red Owl
A rawboned thug who can play a bit and gets odd goal like Shawcross maybe what we need.At least he wouldn't bottle like Coates
27 Jan 2013 22:19:35
Team for wed will include (if all fit)agger, glen, lucas, stevie, hendo, luis sturrigde and downing with pepe in goal, so who else comes in .We can really put ourselves into 4 running with a win, big ask after today I know but still a real possabilaity .Now wat I really hope for is that we go for it and go after the 3 points and not do a rafa and play safe .red2toe
27 Jan 2013 22:19:10
Well BR & FSG .....it's not easy getting to two cup finals like we did last year ....KK will always be the KING.
At the moment it's two steps forward and one step back....!
Poor selection and tactics.
BR needs to look at himself too, not just the under performing players today.
It's collective responsibility... We need to do better.
M
Would you prefer we put our best 11 out for three games running? How does a drubbing by Man see sound because our players were shot?
28 Jan 2013 05:38:36
i think BR got his formation all wrong we were over run in the midfield.he should have played shelvey instead sterling or borini. 4-3-3 is the formation we are comfortable with and I don't get the reason for changing that for a cup game.
27 Jan 2013 22:13:43
that game today would of been perfect for Andy Carroll and Jay Spearing.. no steal in the team...do the Ed's think they still have a chance to succeed at Liverpool? or would Rodgers need to leave for that to happen {Ed001's Note - seriously? Neither are good enough to make it with us, nothing to do with the manager and everything to do with their own lack of quality.}
27 Jan 2013 22:11:41
I watched the chelsea game and thought there are going to be some upsets. So instead of watching my reds I went to bed thinking we should win this. Well good morning Mr Rodgers and welcome to the FA Cup. What a disaster. Maybe the boys have forgotten how to play in mud and poor lighting. Well done Oldham and here I was laughing at Chelsea.
Red in Shepp
I'm laughing at your lack of support. Don't worry your blue team get a replay at Brentford
27 Jan 2013 22:11:20
Call this progress? Kenny got sacked for achieving so much more. I judge on what I see, what I've seen and what I'm going to see between now and end of season. Jury is out on Rogers. No excuses, focus on the league and nothing else, Europa is a distraction. League r
esults are all that matters. Beat someone in top ten for heavens sake!
Beancounter
Success on the pitch doesn't matter mate, Kenny got the sack because the resale value of his players wasn't good enough for FSG. At least they have that now with the kids, so they will regard where we are as progress. Resale value is all that counts with this lot buddy, Rodgers is the puppet on a stick.
Ozone
That's right Ozone - FSG gave KK the money to buy those players and when they found out the age and ability of Downing and Enrique they sacked him
27 Jan 2013 22:04:52
Feel really sorry for you ed's with all the rubbish you have to read.
The knowledge of some of our fans on here is quite frankly terrible, forget opinions, how about a couple of facts:
1) if borini hadn't have made that run, Suarez would have never scored the goal, he pulled 2 defenders out of 4 with him.
2) if sterling hadn't have fluffed the shot, he would have had an assist for what was a very nice back heel.
3) he has only just come back from injury.
4) he was one of the only players that played the br way, constantly pressing and was often seen tracking back into our own half.
5) he's only 21 and he's already an Italian international.
I really suggest that instead of just watching the ball you make an effort to watch his runs either in the re run of this match or next time he plays. I'm in serious disbelief at some of the criticism he is facing here.
What do the eds think? Am I just a stupid blind fan? I'm by no means saying he is the finished article but give him a chance!
SideShowBob {Ed001's Note - he is certainly better than he is given credit for, he gets little help from his team mates though when he is pressing. He needs to improve his composure though, that is lacking when through on goal.}
Dont feel sorry for the eds they will be loving it, all the, oaning Liverpool fans equal traffic to this website, genius {Ed001's Note - actually no, we all hate it and no one wants to edit when this happens. It is depressing! Oh and it makes little difference to the traffic, whatever the result it tends to be the same.}
27 Jan 2013 21:59:26
A bit of perspective needed today's result was a blip recently we have been improving and to be fair to Rodgers he never promised miracles this year. The signing of Sturridge is a giant step forward we have now a potentially lethal front 2.
Countinho is a gamble but creativity is needed in our midfield we have too many hard workers ie shelvey, Henderson Allen et all but not enough who can provide a killer pass a moment of individual class.
We started a very young team today against an Oldham team prepared to play physical and to their strengths. We came up short tactically and performance wise but this is the fa cup it's what makes it magic
We need to give Rodgers time to meld his team, I think today's game needed a Lucas for some steel, other games need the creativity. A few games ago I was doubting we had the right man but the turn around in results and so far a good transfer window have changed my mind
Rome wasn't built in a day, we were falling further behind the pack, Brendan is trying to bring us closer to the top 4
Lets get behind the squad not just the first 11
27 Jan 2013 21:56:18
I thought we were great fans, always stood by our team through everything. Shame really I guess that's gone judging by the comments today and if we lose a match. Plastic fans I guess. Sad day for Liverpool supporters, except for a true fan who backs our great club through everything you guys really need to look in the mirror. jh
27 Jan 2013 21:56:11
Coates appears to be getting all the stick, however everyone forgets he got fouled for both goals the centre forward was all over him. The love for wisdom I find annoying, fair enough he's young but he was at fault for one of the goals as well as the RVP one, he can't pass, can't cross and can't control a ball. Been like that every single week, yet people praise him.
Actually, for the RVP goal, Stevie G didn't track the runner in midfield which meant Wisdom had to tuck in thereby leaving the space for Evra to cross. You see? Even great players sometimes mess up. A lot easier to blame the youngster of course.
Mantis.
Still doenst excuse the fact Wisdom didn't close him down and ball wathced.
27 Jan 2013 21:51:22
Tough game today. I think it was obvious to most of us (in hindsight mind you) that we were over run in midfield, and that a defense consisting of Skrtel and three youngsters was not going to be enough to deal with Oldham's aggression.
Suarez was not as sharp as usual, and I think it was simply not getting the space he needed. Sturridge and Borini want that same space so was too narrow an attack. Sterling is meant to provide width, but I honestly cannot remember the last time he beat a player. As soon as a defender gets near him, you just know Sterling is going to lose the ball.
Hopefully we can give a response at Arsenal, though a win there is probably too much to ask.
Coop
27 Jan 2013 21:42:16
Thing are really looking good aren't they Tel...
maybe you should wait until after the result before you gloat about the mighty Liverpool.
JK92
27 Jan 2013 21:42:15
Gutted about today but we are heading in the right direction.brenden was right saying the young players let us down.i think jack Robinson just had a bad day but I think he will be our futre left back.Coates wants a move and I don't think he was up for it today .i think sterling needs to spend more time on the bench as a impact player I think he has the potential to be brilliant.andre wisdom has got to be our future centre half looks realy strong but again had a bad day.i think the main reason why all these young players were so bad today is now there getting brought up on academy football some of these lads have never played Sunday football and had the s""t kicked out of them and that's what's cost us today.i think out of every young player we've got in the first team the worst consistantly is borini I think he's been awful every time iv seen him
Lucky
27 Jan 2013 21:41:22
Hi (R)Eds'
Can't believe that we beat Norwich 5-0 and then lose 3-2 to Oldham. The 5-0 win against Norwich was obviously because they were unbelievably poor against us and are currently on a bad run of form as they lost against LUTON. I feel we are missing a 2 back-up defenders and a midfielder that can tackle and pass quickly (Hope Coutinho is that player). We should ship out Robinson (loan) and Coates (loan or permno). We should also buy a pacey winger (Ince??) and maybe Ashley Williams would be a decent defender for us.
YNWA
JFT96
27 Jan 2013 21:39:55
To achieve great things you must first accept defeat. To never be defeated means you will never learn. Before everyone gets upset just go down to the trophy room at anfield and you'll see something that utd, Chelsea, spurs, arsenal, man city and the blue noses will never ever own. The European cup oh yeh and before you forget utd we won it so many times they gave us the fxxxxng thing. Proud to be a red. Every dog has its day (Oldham) good luck to them. Keep the faith in BR he'll get there in the end FSG thanks for all you have done. Come on the red men YNWA!!
27 Jan 2013 21:29:02
Oldham vs Liverpool match review.... oh dear...
Jones - doesn't command his area, woeful for the 2nd goal, a day to forget for him.
Robinson - I've advocated him getting a start in the team for some time now but was poor today. Didn't get forward enough, distribution wasn't great and at fault for the 3rd goal, will hopefully have much better games in a red shirt than that one.
Wisdom - was not great positionally and often seems way too far off his man on the wing, 1st goal today a good example. Only young but needs to learn or perhaps switch his position to centre-back?
Coates - abysmal, won nothing in the air and was dominated by their big fella. Rumours are he wants out of the club - whether this was disaffection, rustiness or just a bad performance I don't know, but very bad.
Skrtel - wasn't great but looked much more in control than Coates. Don't think marshalled the defense as well as either Carragher and Agger might have.
Henderson - strange game, didn't look overly comfortable in that defensive midfield position but his touches were decent, got forward willingly and contributed to the team. His distribution was garbage when he got moved to right back, hoofs and misplaced passes, mixed performance.
Allen - scored a goal but lacked endevour going forward and left big holes between defense and midfield that could be exploited. Don't like how we play football when he plays, worried about Rodgers faith in him.
Borini - difficult game to play in when just coming back from injury. Looked willing and his runs off the ball were very intelligent but missed a sitter at the beginning of the 2nd half and was never involved enough in the game. Seemed to be playing on the left side of midfield and was often tracking back to help Robinson, square peg round hole for me.
Sterling - started brightly and willing to run at players. Links up well but his final ball was bad and is something he has to dramatically improve upon. Seems to often drift out of games which is another aspect that must get better, by the time he was substituted he had been a peripheral figure for 15 minutes previous.
Sturridge - Good first half, good link up play (although some faults) and a real eagerness and desire. Faded in the 2nd half, missed a good chance and just seemed to run out of energy near the end. Perhaps not fully fit but a more subdued game compared to his previous 3, signs still very encouraging though.
Suarez - full of running, full of desire, typical grafting, fighting performance and was rewarded with an opportunistic goal. Never gave up and tried to create something out of nothing, service he was given was very poor in the second half, he needs better to thrive.
Subs:
Gerrard - the best player on the pitch when he came on, immediately restored a sense of control and gave the team direction and authority. passing was swift and accurate and was very unlucky to hit the bar. Team looked more balanced when he came on too.
Shelvey - was full of running although created and contributed little. With more time might have done better, seems to have faded since the united game he was sent off in, hope he can rediscover his form and drive forward.
Downing - was full of running but with Henderson as right back his effectiveness was limited due to the lack of somebody to overlap (Henderson is not the fastest, winger type is he?). Tried to cut in and hit tame shots too many times, annoying when the possession could be better used.
Conclusion
I like Rodgers, his philosophy and the direction he is taking the club but I think he got it wrong today. The defense lacked a leader and the team in general lacked balance. Thought Shelvey should've started and think this type of game was one Borini should never have started in, particularly in left midfield. A combination of defensive errors and profligacy in front of goal cost us as well as the referee allowing some dodgy tackles and general bad play i.e. holding, tugging shirts, dangerous tackles etc going unpunished. Oldham's only threat was huge hoofs up front which we didn't deal with. I understand why Coates started (being 6ft5) but it proved to be a bad choice by the manager - despite the height differential I thought the defence could've used the experience and organisational qualities of Carragher. They were hardly the fastest of teams and I think he would've made the team feel a lot more settled. The young players will blow hot and cold until they establish themselves but today was definitely a "cold" day - none of them did very fantastically and in the end probably cost us a result. Still valuable experience for the future. Huge game on Wednesday - we need to win.
SMc
Allen was one our best players today.
kidmillions
I must have been at a different game.
Jones - crap
Wisdom - at least he looked interested.
Coates - crap
Skrtle - crap
Robinson - crap
Allen - crap
Henderson - best out of a bad bunch, some good deliveries.
Sterling - crap, hasn't took a man on and beat since his pay rise.
Borini - crap, can't even trap a ball.
Sturridge - looked lively but wasn't his day.
Suarez - not interested.
Subs
Downing - crap
Shelvey - crap
Captain - The usual from the captain, nearly saved our bacon but how much is one man expected to do?
FSG, throw the resale concept out the window, get the scouting network out there (unfortunately you might have to stump up a few air fares) to go and find Tommy Smith/ Souness/ McMahon type players with experience quick. We're a stone throw away from being the next Villa. Forget your Coutinhios, Inces etc., we already have all that in the Acadamy and surely there's a good enough mark up on resale for you in that crop.
Ozone
Yet another joyless fart of negativity from Ozone. Where were you when we were winning our last few games?
cozinoz
Lol Allen one of our best? Why do fans always defend him, he was woeful and his distribution was awful - the only think he is supposed to be good at and he couldn't even get that right - if we play him against Arsenal we will lose.
SMc
Who was that Cozinoz, Norwich, QPR and Mansfield. I was at the games mate watching he opposition sit deep and low us time on the ball, consequently we were allowed to treat he games as if we were on the training pitch.
I was also there yesterday, the other week at Utd and also at Stoke where I saw bad team selections (Should've played 3 centre against Stoke, as Kenny did in the league cup), 451 against Utd, sat back and let them pass around us, the change to 442 to little to late and as or the farcicle yesterday need I say anymore.
Cozinoz, the facts of the matter are, we're out of both cups, we can't beat anybody above us in the league and Utd have done the double over us. We look toothless in a fight and Rodgers is a fantasist thinking he can play champagne football with lemonade players.
Ozone
Ozone you should know Cozinoz talks kite(rhyming slang) by now
27 Jan 2013 21:26:45
It is quite frustrating coming on here seeing all this negativity when recently it was all quite positive..
Yes we lost today and never should have. We were so poor defensively that's true but let's face it other than Skrtel and maybe Wisdom, who out of the defence will be playing against Arsenal? If Pepe is fit he'll be in goal too..! Not to mention, our midfield was set up so attacking today that we missed our defensive cover of Lucas. I agree we need another CB and maybe a new keeper (especially in the summer if Pepe leaves) but it's not all negative.
All season we've been crying out for a goalscorer alongside Suarez and we have that in Sturridge. In the greater picture, we're looking better now than we did a month ago. Add Coutinho and maybe Ince and that's more positive too.
All we can do now is look towards Wednesday and cheer our boys on...! We're all disappointed but let's support them instead of abusing them.
YNWA
27 Jan 2013 23:38:47
Thank you...finally some sense! I agree my friend
27 Jan 2013 21:24:09
Liverpool's squad depth would be much enhanced if as believed the following occurs in the summer of 2013:
LFC sell Carroll, spearing, coates, skrtel, reina and pachecos out of contract and no talks on renewing so he's pretty much gone already. Also downing has improved however I believe he may still be sold due to his inflexibility of not being an adaptable forward.
LFC to buy McCarthy who is a strong midfield presence with good technique and mobile. A goalkeeper, possibly butland however forster of Celtic may be an alternative. A left back, possibly diakite and I suspect Williams of Swansea who is a good communicator which is one of the issues of playing a lot of younger players as they don't seem to have a good on pitch rhetoric.
I would like to see suso going on loan to gain first team confidence, he can get experience staying with us but a good run of games would develop his confidence and he would also learn a favoured position. He is more of an attacking midfielder rather than a winger of forward.
Also I believe Kelly will indeed become a very accomplished centre half rather than a full back. If a silly offer should come in for saurez we should take it and by alexis sanchez. Saurez is awesome but also a news story waiting to happen and Liverpool has always been a club of respect and stature. Saurez is worked class but his floors do not help the image of our club. And from a cynical point of view image sells and we need a good image for financial and in turn team growth. Sorry its so long but valid points I believe. Stay red, stay true. Have faith and never turn blue.
Williams at right cb and Trapp in goal.
Butland is awful.
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 21:24:06
Obviously not a good result today and have to agree that some players just weren't interested (wisdom, allen, sterling)
personally one of the worst things for me was jack robinson telling luis suarez to f**K o**. in all fairness who does he think he is? he was completely in the wrong in shooting when he should have passed and that reaction struck me as one of someone who has just gotten too big for their boots.
PS. Coates needs more game time. IMO he needs to go out on loan or hel never gain the experience he clearly lacked today
Pomred
27 Jan 2013 21:21:31
Poor game today.
Poor selection from BR - tho the team really ought to have won on paper.
Play the strongest team in the first half, try and win the game early - then play the youngsters.
It's the FA Cup on a dodgy pitch against a team playing the game of their lives - It's obvious they were going to play hard and strong.
Complete overreaction to say BR should be sacked ....but it's fair game to offer a critical opinion ....and he will be asked to explain tactics and selection from inside the Club.
MULDER
27 Jan 2013 21:06:23
Can't understand all the Rodgers out posts. He put out a team that should have beaten a league one side. 9 internationals and two england u21 players. The fact is the players didn't have the right attitude today, you can't blame him for that. I'm sure he didn't say 'its alright, you'll win this easy, they're only league one.' He also can't put the ball in the goal himself can he? The fact is the players let the fans down, not the manager, and their true character will be seen on wednesday. Rodgers shouldn't have to say anything to them this week, the motivation should come from themselves.
El Pi**edolero
4 Forwards and 2 right footed centre backs that are unable to cover the left side leaving an inexperienced left back exposed. Wisdom on the right is a makeshift right back.
Henderson and Allen over run in midfield by a better set up and balanced team.
No my friend; Brendan Rodgers got it horribly wrong today but it's over now and we move on to Wednesday night.
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 21:03:38
I've been watching LFC since 1970 and now despair of so called fans on the site. There has been a gradual decline since the early 1990s and times have greatly changed with ownership issues and Sky money now ruling the agenda. The point is that your team is your team whatever the results, I have every respect for fans throughout the leagues and conferences who turn up every week through thick and thin and dream of beating teams like ours. We have no god given right to expect to win, just a history richer than most supporters can dream of. As supporters we have the right to criticise but please be constructive not negative. Things should improve but it will be a long journey back to the top table. Give our team support when it is most needed. It is easy when things are going well. LFC forever. Heighway Down the Wing!
27 Jan 2013 21:01:53
Are we all in this together or shall we all fight and argue with each other.
Football is a matter of opinions and as you can read everybody has one.
Why are some people calling for Rogers to go and bring back Rafa .
Rafa was the one who sold tried to sell Alonso to try to bring in Gareth Barry.
Rafa is the one in 2005 champions league final got lucky.
Game changed when he had to bring Haamann on at half time because of an injury to Harry Kewell, Wrong team selection.
Look at what Rafa is doing at Chelsea with the players at his disposal.
Don't get me wrong I think Rafa was a good manager but he to made mistakes.
Lets look forward to the future and not dwell on the past.
Again this is just my opinion.
27 Jan 2013 21:39:38
We need some experience, today showed that BR shirked from play Gerrard &Carra youth and it was a massive wake up we need leaders as well as youth!
Nath
Maybe he wanted to rest them for wednesday, there not young anymore. if you want the best out of them then you have to be careful.
27 Jan 2013 21:38:34
At least Rodgers isn't hiding on this one, although it's partly his fault for picking them it's up to the youngsters to grab their chances and so far this season they've failed to do that every time they've been called upon. It's no coincidence that our worst performances this season have been when they have played.
27 Jan 2013 21:31:28
Ok were to start. It was not as bad as the stoke game. At least we went for it. Steve once again almost got us out of jail.
Jones I've always said that if pepe goes he would not be our no.1 we would buy a first choice. Today he was poor and in my opinion windy a coward and afraid. Today should he us not even a good no. 2. Krul would be my choice.
Coates now we know the reason Carra is needed. If someone offers 9m take the hand off them.
Borini we all got excited that he was back but forgot he wasn't good before he got injured. His miss early in the 2nd half tells me he ain't up to it.
It was bad we got beaten today for 2 reasons . 1 individual mistakes. 2 they wanted it more which to me is shocking and players and staff shoold be ashamed for that.
The fans deserve a reaction. But I still expect both arsenal and city will beat us. and why because we are not as good as them. I hope that wrong.
Once again this season we have turned a corner. its such a pity that with the epl so bad that 4th place would have been way had we not wasted so much money on bad players.
Its January and our season is all but over . Only the Europe league left.
We think we should be in the champions league. Well we got beaten by oldham today.
When we beat a quality team in the league and put a good run of wins together them I will see it as progress.
3 wins for a meal out...... That's not the Liverpool way.
lfc should be looking at 8/9/10 wins in a row. Getting a reward for 3 wins. What would shanks made of that.
Sorry for the long post... Just letting g people know my toughts
Marker.
Ps will always love the club. But sometimes they do make it difficult .
Jones had a poor game ( he's been reliable for the most part when called upon) He must be feeling really down over his performance.
So can you; stop kickiing him while he's down Already!!
It's not a nice thing to do!
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 21:12:08
Jesus the comments on here are actually funny it's got to be an award winning OTT website. I mean get a grip! We got to two cup finals last year and did rubbish in the league and people complained. What's wrong with all of you?!
London red
Can see why many fans are glum, like it or not, last year will have been seen as moderately successful; any team going to wembley 3x and coming away with 1 trophy is good going, it opened up Europe to us again and yet because we dipped in the league then the manager at the time was given the boot.
I'm not saying BR is a bad choice, I personally like him as the manager overall, the play has a style now, bringing in players that fit the system and if they don't work out or don't fit then they are quickly moved on (sahin, for example)
Today will obviously draw out the kneejerkers/manager out crowd but literally every manager does this in cup competitions against supposed inferior opponents - play 2nd string lineup and have the big guns on the bench as a looming threat. Today we had a few players on the pitch who simply weren't up for it/out to impress/make team selections a headache for BR.
Coates was nervy on the ball and poor positioning. Wisdom off his post for 1 of the goals and Sterling dropping off his man allowing the cross for their 3rd. Jones struggled and having a completely foreign/uncohesive back four I don't blame him. Where was Agger?! Even Carra should have come in, in the 2nd half he'd have shored up the defence and provided a stability for the rest to venture forward.
Sorry I'm going on a bit but like many today was incredibly frustrating, nottakingnthis competition, and the league cup, seriously by not fielding the strongest possible 11 has removed yet another opportunity to improve on last year.
Misterdrumz
27 Jan 2013 20:56:08
There is only one person responsible for today's defeat and that is the manager. When you know you are going to a League 1 team with a big striker and face a physical battle for 90 minutes you should pick a centre half who will fight for the ball with all his life (i.e Carragher) and a a strong battling midfield.
But I am true fan -I am not so narrow minded so as to demand his head like some others on here.
I will say however that I hope he has learnt his lesson from his first foray into the FA cup with LFC and that he picks our strongest team from next season.
I agree that Rodgers has to take the blame. He is the manager after all and don't really see his need to blame the youngsters after the defeat. It was his choice. Yet there is a reason why Oldham are in the division that they are in and a decent Liverpool performance would have been suffice to get us thru.Rodgers would only have had to point out the 2 previous cup matches on the same day to prove how difficult they could be if not approached properly. I guess he must have had his tv switched off. I don't think Fsg will not be too worried about going out as it would seem the only objective is too get a top 4 spot but it is another avenue to European football not available to us for next year. Ah the glamour of the FA Cup! Great, isn't it?
The Irish Rover
Not saying that carragher's not a bad player but he hasn't really played well against big powerful strikers in the past such as drogba and even lukaku at the start of the season
I was actually praying for once that after today people would realise it was the poor quality, lack of concentration and lack of commitment and heart from the players that lost us the game, and not the manager. clearly some of you are as pathetic and deluded as ever, realise that even some of your 'fans favourites' are playing without heart and concentration.
Anonymous woolback
In fairness Coates is our biggest and usually most physical cb.
Picking coates 6ft5 against matt smith 6ft6 wasnt a bad managerial decision. Coates just had an awful game.
Smith was huge and would have beaten Carra to every header. Coates was the right choice but he wasn't up to the fight
cozinoz
A strong battling centre half? Coates is bar far the best header of a ball we have at centre half and Skrtel a fantastic player, Carragher would have been a demotion on these two, calling yourself a real fans embarrassing we can't win them all and I for one realise that so get behind the manager and team as I'm sure your one of many who a few days a go were congratulating the team on how much they'd improved and how well the manager was doing just on the back of two signings, get a grip
27 Jan 2013 20:53:54
Hi All
The problem today, to many players happy to take second best and it does not bode well for this group who are not competative enough, some on show today were found wanting for fight and spirit, things that should always be present in a Liverpool team
That's what you get when you don't blend winning experience with youth. Not to worry anyway, at least we have resale value in much of the youth. We'll never win anything mind but at least we have resale value.
Ozone
Couldnt agree more, you obviously are one of the few who has a clear mind.
Anonymous woolback
Been missing you while we've been on a winning streak, Ozone. Is it possible for you to post without obsessing about 'resale value' ? There are less posts about the return of Torres
cozinoz
Give it a rest Cosinoz, if you can't see that this resale concept is where the problem lies then you need to take stock. Out of both cups and can't beat teams above us. Toothless in a dog fight. We're entering a precarious period under this regime.
Ozone
You give it a rest. Every one of your posts says the same boring BS. You're mad theories are well known. If EVERY player is bought for resale, it means they have to be successful and productive for us to make a profit on them. This is good news for the team. If the owners want to build the club up to sell at a profit, it needs to be a successful club. This is good news for the supporters.
But we haven't sold Luis for 50m this Jan, have we? And we did pay over the odds for a not-so-young Downing, didn't we? And the owners are ploughing plenty of cash into the club to create success so your continual paranoid ramblings about 'resale value' have more holes than a slab of Swiss Cheese. Why don't you just support the project instead of trying to find hidden agendas?
cozinoz
Yes just like your boring 'in Brendon we trust' and 'FSG saved us' naive misguided clap trap sunshine.
Ozone {Ed019's Note - 1. Learn to spell Brendan. 2. FSG did save us from becoming Rangers, unless you live in a dream world. 3. What good is slating the manager going to do? Get him sacked, get the team to ip in form, lose more games, go through another rebuilding with another manager, repeat the last 3 years? Smh}
View FSG as you wish Ed. A buyer was always there. The terms of the RBS loan was in the public domain. Why would any interested buyer pay over the odds in the knowledge that the club was to be effectively repossessed by the bank and disposed of purely to cover their financial exposure at a price well below market value. Saved us my a**e. cheap shot the Brendan spelling.
I'll say it as I see it Ed. if Rodgers demonstrated that he was a tactical genius and coach from heaven, I'd come on here singing from the rooftops. I don't rate him, he's unproven, starting to show how tactically inept he is and further compounding the problem by wasting more moneyrun not bringing the type of player we need to the club.
Ozone
27 Jan 2013 20:51:45
article about Brad Jones
google: Brad Jones' journey from 'Dalyer' to Wembley
a quote from article:
"He seemed like a typical laid-back Aussie fella, " Mathews recalls. "Letting in goals didn't seem to bother him. The Keely (manager) was pulling his hair out."
27 Jan 2013 23:02:55
I would think Brad Jones' time at Shelbourne to be entirely irrelevant to now. He was 21 and probably didn't really give a fiddlers about being at Shelbourne on loan.
- Something Red -
Jones must be really down after todays performance. (he's played well for the most part when called upon)
So you can stop kicking! He's down Already! "It's not very nice!"
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 20:50:12
Hey everyone, disappointing result today but maybe now a lot of people on here will realise and accept where we are at as a football club and that's a team that isn't good enough, you all come on here when we win and think we're the best team in the world, well I'm sorry to say it but you all need a reality check and today was just that! We just simply aren't the team we once were! Accept it!
Totally agree
Welsh red
27 Jan 2013 20:48:53
Cancel the cheque for coutinhio quick
Or shall we all pretend he's going to be great and excite the fans like borini and that xavi lad in midfield
You right mate, just another lightweight load of Rodgers rubbish that can't make it at Inter. When's Brendon going to realise that training ground footballs different to match day just like sparring at the gyms different to fight night. Go out and buy some men Brendon, forget the boys, it's not working.
Ozone
27 Jan 2013 20:48:07
Daniel Sturridge in
Phillipe Coutinho pending work permit?
What are the likelihood of these players signing between this window and summer window?
Tom Ince, Marco Rojas, Ashley Williams, Isimat Mirin, Tendayi Darikwa.
27 Jan 2013 20:46:13
Ok I keep in touch with Villa lad and his family we met on Hols.After we discussed Villa other day he said his views on us, to me bang on(even if Hard bad Ben whatever his name is stays in denial/more ways than one!) He said- "Sorry to say Mate, at such a carp time for you, these results this Weekend You, Spurs, Chelsea, Norwich, and Arsenal (Who had to bring on Wiltshire and Walcott), that these squads aren't good enough. everybody saysteams need depth but take out key players and it weakens the team too much.The Manchester Teams are the exception".And for me says loads!=Bang on.I would add Brendan said you don't need Steel/Physically imposing players.Disagreed at time, More so now! In a lot of games in U.K you have to earn the right to play.We do not have enough of those players, Witnessed today v Villa, Stoke and Utd.A blends required Brendan.And though you've done we'll last few weeks if you don't see and implement that, It will be the sword you perish on Fella.Pretty footy has to be earns.In 2005 we had a mix.This side doesn't!Not enough leaders either, a quite, side
27 Jan 2013 21:51:05
Ha ha ha. Taking tips off villa fans. Plus I just read you post are you drunk it makes no sense at all something about steel midfield. We got beat it happens. Fair play to Oldham. Look at the first teamers who didn't start. All today proved was we don't have a lot of strength in depth. We're getting there. We will always be a great club challenging for trophies because LFC are winners. Are you a red? Come on man positivity get behind the red men and lets stick it to the gunners. YNWA
Albert
Interesting.....criticising what others say but remaining nameless! Other than that your post makes no sense! 'Carp time'? Is it a post about football or fishing?
Littletommythetank
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I'm not sure what this collection of words about a Villa fans opinion (or is it David Villas opinion..?) means, or what it has to do with me. But, take it from me, I'm not in denial oh nameless one.
BigBadBen
Oh but you are Ben dish but can't take merchant.Met loads like you Fella all wind and .iss. if you cannot Fathom it Albert (you must've been in Alehouse-same name if you even know it.Seen your posts tank guy and your best ridiculed by ignoring with the drivel you proceed to spout.Bad Ben Obviosly feels his name intimidates-No Fella your posts are always just BAD
27 Jan 2013 20:45:28
todays performance from coates was a big indication that we need to offload him NOW he's never going to adapt to english football bullied today and out of position all day you either play against pace or power and he can't cope with eithe. think we should buy hangeland from fulham to had power to our back 4 how I miss sami
Coates' problem is he has no pace at all, he is so slow it's funny. Tournament football is so deceiving as it makes some players looks a lot better than they are e.g Baros, Coates, Gervinho, Manucho just to name a few.
27 Jan 2013 20:43:13
Everyone is entitled to your opinions but some on here need to get a f##king grip, we lost get over it, they played to there strengths, we got the tatics and team wrong and no doubt Brendan knows that and we got muscled out as a result, but they where better until we brought on stevie G, today is what's called a traditional FA cup game and this weekend is what makes this tournament what it is so congrats to Oldham cheers pk
It's not good enough
Sorry mate but real fans don't 'get over it' quite as quick as you. We just got beat by Oldham!.I have got to go to work tomorrow and listen to the red fans ribbing me all day! Get ove it?? Doesn't quite cut just right now.
Aldos tash
27 Jan 2013 22:20:40
totally agree pk well said. jIr63
Yes well done Oldham, you really wanted it much than we did, and we got so much wrong, from team selection, tactics, subs on way too late, and after the match chat, we all saw how the game turned when the great Stevie G came on, take note BR .
redforever
27 Jan 2013 20:29:23
Can't believe all the people bashing Allen today.
Easy target I suppose because of some recent performances.
I thought he played very well today and was one of the stand out players on our team . Got stuck in and made a lot of interceptions and tackles plus passed the ball around well. And scored.
What do you want. Give the lad some freakin support. He was superb last season and was brilliant at the start of this season.
He will be a top player for us and I look forward to a few years time when I'm proven right.
I'd certainly have him sub against Arsenal but today for me it was a big step in the right direction for him.
And for these so called fans on here who use the words "he's not fit to wear shirt", you make me sick. Disgusting Supporters. Who the hell do you think you are.
You're a disgrace to Liverpool football club in my eyes.
We are Liverpool FC for flip sake. Don't forget who you represent.
Davey Sulls
Spot on Davey Sulls. I think some nameless posters forget that it is us as well as the players that represent our club. I am embarrassed by some of the ill-informed, rude, fickle nonsense posted on here tonight. I am ashamed by the impression that Ed002 has of us.
BigBadBen
Need an agree x10 for this post! Sick of these negative, narrow minded no matter the situation complain about everything sort of fans. You can never win with em so it's pointless!
Think what was bad, was that Allen played in a very light-weight midfield, that was always going to have a hard time, and yes your right, he was the one who tried his best, but was not supported well by his team-mates, in fact, in the 1st half, he was our mid-field, up against 3/4 of their big lads, we were never going to win this one, the way we were set up, should have been 442,
redforever
How do you think a growing majority feel about your tosh Ben? you, Lyndon, Cozinoz, Kidmillions, Welsboy arrogant no nothing bull merchants.Do you actually go to games Ben?
27 Jan 2013 20:27:28
Shameful performance today. But also bad team selection and tactics. Why play our full attacking power, when the key to lower league teams is controlling midfield and coping with physicality. Coates should have need subbed after ten minutes as he was shocking. Carra would have solidified defence. Likewise, Gerard should have been on either from the start or half time,
27 Jan 2013 20:40:53
BR has blamed the young players for today's defeat. I think this is another sly dig at the owners and their transfer policy. Gerrard and him have both in recent weeks called for experience to be signed and today our inexperience showed. I don't think trying to buy two more inexperienced players like Coutinho and Ince will improve our situation. We need the 28-30 year olds as Gerrard showed when he came on. We need leaders. We wouldn't be pushed around and bullied so much with the likes of Ashley Williams in our defense. Coates was simply awful today. We should have started with Carra. We need a Didi Hamann type player in midfield.
He played them his fault.Away Cup games you go with Experience
Spot on mate, Coutinhou and Ince are no different to what we already have in the Acadamy. FSG's transfer policy is a shambles.
Ozone
Unfortunately BR is clueless, he was the one who picked and prepared the team. They played how he wanted them to play. BR got it wrong not the players. We need to buy experience not youngsters, we have enough kids to start a nursery for god sake.
A true leader takes responsibility
blaming young players is nonsense
one team wanted it more and were better motivated
nothing to do with skill or systems
pure man management
27 Jan 2013 20:40:16
Evening all. I'll start right off the bat and say I'm a United fan, so that probably means for most of you I will get a **** off back to your own page, or just mean you won't take me seriously.
However, unlike most United fans I'm actually sad at your current demise as I'm a proper northerner and would like to see a real battle up North, and I'd rather it with you and your history than the jumped up blues down the road bank rolled by a corrupt Saudi government.
From an outside perspective, no matter how much you might want to back your team it seems you have overspent on overhyped and underwhelming players for a number of years. First lot I would get rid off is your scouting team!
Rather than do the necessary long term observation you seem to go out and overspend on "the next big thing" who has 1 good season (if that) rather than a decent in depth analysis.
I know you want to play attractive passing football but every team needs some steel and good quality experience. Honestly barring Reina, Carr (who is beginning to struggle as he's getting on, Gerrard and Suarez who is top quality at the club. I do think sterling could become an excellent player, but for example in the summer why Allen and not a Fellani, or even Scott Parker? There seems to be a sense that you buy players who mentally aren't up to the expectations and standards expected at Liverpool.
I don't know if its Rogers or his back up staff who are seemingly inept tactically, but if I were you I would think a real top quality no.2 with tactical nous, ideally from the "boot room" would be another must have appointment.
I have heard that your owners won't sanction purchases for over 23's as there is no resale value....since when were Liverpool a selling club? You'll hate me for saying it but RVP for us this year shows that a top class player is worth every penny if they are in their prime...
Your only 3 points behind Arsenal and some decent investment now could still see you turn the corner this season, so that rather than trotting out the same old next year will be our year excuse next year, it might actually be a decent year. 40/50million in the summer on 2 or 3 players of real quality could pay for itself if you get back into the CL... Though the difficulty might be getting them in if you fail to get there again, which if your all honest is looking unlikely this year.
If your struggling, you want some old experienced battlers coming in not some naive young player starting his career, and too many of those at once leads to one thing, just ask villa. When we won with 'kids' people forget we had an established back 5 with players like Cantona etc to help them through the tough periods...barring Gerrard and Carra this is an area you seem to be really lacking. A few 30 something's proven in the PL would go along way right now...
Just a few thoughts...
Red Bear
Intelligent posts and critique are always wecolmed regardless of what team you support. We are in a situation with the club at the moment where the owners down are finding their feet.You could argue that they have enough time already but the fact of the matter is we were 2 days away from administration when they took over and didn't really know football. Hence, employed a chancer in Commoli, gave him a blank cheque and payed (literally) the price, but I still feel we are going in the right direction and I look forward to going toe to toe with your lot next season and after. Good post red bear.
Agree courtinho is another prime example! (unproven)listen to this guy he makes sence? Courtinho is over priced and over hyped and over here
Fair point pal.so your the it'd fan with the brain, I'd heard a rumour that there was one, only joking.rob b
27 Jan 2013 22:12:42
Very good comments and well put across. I agree with a lot of what you said and appreciate that you didn't resort to petty insults as is what happens between most fans, a worthy adversary.
Albert
Fair comments
just because they are under 23 doesn't mean they will have a resale value
we seem to have unique ability to turn 20 million pound players into below average journeymen
I would personally get a scouser as the manager...someone with a real passion and connection to the fans...that man is carragher...give him til the end of the season
27 Jan 2013 20:38:09
Really disappointed with BR today, yes the players let the club down but at the same time BR has to shoulder the large majority of the blame as he picked the team.
The average age of the starting 11 was 22yrs with no clear leader in the team. I can understand resting Gerrard but to not play Carra was a massive mistake, not only that but to start the game with only Hendo and Allen in the midfield was a crime.
I fully expect BR to come out and apologise in the next 24hrs and admit it was his fault once he has had time to reflect.
Curled1
27 Jan 2013 20:35:17
young talent only will never help you. look at man utd they bring back their experiance player. Suarez superhit this year why he have to play a wing roll for Borini ? if Suarez leave us we can't blame him. everyone not Gerrard that show his loyalty and win nothing. like me or not I always said BR is a Mistake. the man who never play top class football just 1 year in EPL manager . what a choice FSG and thier money making plan is start young talent come some of them will be hit we sale him and make money. we Blame Torres but £50m he bring for us . he alwyas say there is a story I will say when time is right. who knows that's story may £50m who don't want. money making American who don't know football and not even call it football.
r-r
27 Jan 2013 20:33:55
Why when we lose we get people coming on here and saying BR has to leave and FSG out and silly unconstructive comments like that. You can say your opinion let things off your chest but if every time a team lost they sacked their manager no team will have one.
Hibsylfc
Losing to chamionship side. we are 22 point behind ledar. what you want us to say well done ?
27 Jan 2013 20:32:21
watched the game today and until stevie came on we were well second at the races, people slatting the players who have played today are a touch unfair. I would expect them to perform but I also would think that a player needs a run of gamesto get proper match fitness and the confidence that the team manager and supporters will not crucify them if they make a mistake. congratulations to Oldham they deserved the victory now we must move on and win the next game. I still believe in the youth policy but you can not just rely on them for every game, teams like stoke etc need to be matched first for physicality and then for playing tecnique. what we had today was a team that averaged 22 year old and they will improve jones on the other hand had a shocker my snowman could hold the ball better and he has melted. ray.3037
That's why you Need Experience
27 Jan 2013 20:31:58
Not easy to get to two cup finals is it?
Hope Is Not A Strategy.
And neither is having a manager who senior sports journalists at The Times and The Daily Telegraph refer to as 'David' - as in David Brent.
We always had the foundations of a food team with the work of Dalglish and Clarke. Sure, it needed development but the reality is Rogers inherited a lot stronger and happier squad than Kenny Dalglish did.
You cannot blame young players told to play 433 against a physical Oldham side. Rogers should be big enough to hold his hand up and admit he was 75% the cause of this. Leadership is responsibility not PowrPoint or management cliches.
YNWA
Drew
Here we go, people mentioning dalglish yet again, yes he inherited a bad squad and did a good job in getting rid of most of them, trouble is he brung in his own rubbish players, so he replaced rubbish with rubbish and overspent on the rubbish to add insult to injury
Poor form blaming the Kids he picked them
I think the played 4. 2. 3. 1.
When you say 'foundations of a food team' were you referring to Charlie Adam?
BigBadBen
Spot on Drew.
Ozone
Not heard that one. If BR is David Brent, what about Colin Pascoe ?
Classic
27 Jan 2013 20:23:04
Keeper and CB & LB are now NEXT priorities due to some woeful defending today.
27 Jan 2013 20:21:02
Liverpool just tried to sell Coates to Oldham for a fiver but Oldham wouldn't take him as he isn't good enough to get in their side! Oldham.instead want Brian O Driscoll and Jonah Lomu as they suit their style of play!
27 Jan 2013 20:20:27
Ince spotted in crowd today, wasnt to impressed...should be done before City.
Countinho deal could collaspe as it depends on Paulinho deal which is currently falling apart as to complex dual ownership issues..
.fingers crossed on both but still a while to go yet for confirmation
That's bulls**t, they've already accepted the bid so it just depends on the medical and terms.
What difference will either of them make?
Ozone
Who should we be buying, Ozone?
An experienced tough tackling centre mid and commanding centre half.
Ozone
Spot on ozone
27 Jan 2013 20:20:20
I nearly threw the remote at the tv when I saw what Robinson said to Suarez.. Furthermore, Robinson was garbage today. I'm all for attacking full backs but get the basics of defending correct first, he did atrocious for their third goal and in the first half Lee Croft beat him time and time again. I fear Jack may be a victim of the hype, he has not been playing well for a while now from what I see from LFC tv and probably will never be our first choice left back.
Coates played like a man who knows he is trying to be sold. For a big man he has no physical presence and his days are definitely numbered at LFC.
Martin Skrtel is a player who has been frustrating me for the majority of this season. I know the fans love him and I'll get slated for saying this but he strikes me as being just below the standard required for being a first choice centre half for Liverpool. This really stands out to me when we play the big teams particularly away from home. He always seems to get a run around and the really top notch players like Van Persie, Rooney, Aguero, Tevez, et al relish playing against him. He can't handle their movement. Without Agger he looks really vulnerable and this was shown again today against Oldham when he should have dominated. I would be hoping we would sign a replacement for him in the Summer but I doubt that will happen.
I don't know what to make of Borini. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as he is just back from a serious injury and blatantly being played out of posititon but he was poor today and missed a great chance. A player lacking in confidence and sharpness.
I'd love Rodgers to sign a central defender this window but he probably won't until the Summer. Someone like Alderweireld, Fazio, Amorebieta or Howedes would be a great signing. Also, I read here Liverpool have an interest in Mirin.. I don't know why as Kurt Zouma is so much better. Anyway rant over.
The Gooch
The error today was team selection and playing a very poor midfield that centred around Allen who was shocking. I think people have been unfair to Coates as the back 4 were too exposed and young CBs need a run in the side and cannot just be drafted into a game like this. Carra should have played instead. There were no leaders either in defence or midfield and it showed.
Borini and Sterling were also very poor today.
BR has got to admit the team selection was wrong. He cannot blame it on the young players.
I'm not sure what is going on now at the club. The owners seem a lot more distant than last season and we will face a fight to keep certain players in the summer (especially Reina and Suarez). Reina has been criticised heavily all season, but today showed how much we miss him. He's one of the best keepers in the English game.
Hard times ahead.
In BR I do NOT trust
G
Somewhat controversial but thought provoking nevertheless. Some valid points.
Was Borini playing?
27 Jan 2013 20:16:37
Why is people talking about Suarez future? Wasn't it in the summer he signed a 5year contract eds? Surely he wouldn't leave the season after signing that, I think everybody should stop talking about it coz I think he's happy at lfc
27 Jan 2013 20:09:26
Please please please, if enough reason was not already there to get rid of Coates surely today proves it. I mean, he's a big lump of a lad but made to look likea schoolboy today. Seriously enough is enough.I know some posters on this site rate him but pure and simple. NOOOOOO!
Fred
27 Jan 2013 20:08:57
I think its fair to say on that performance nobody will be rushing for coates signature, he is a donkey ..the qe2 turns quicker but the result not all his fault, feel a bit sorry for brad between the sticks because he's done ok but being realistic the keeper situation at anfield needs some attention ! Heard a rumour tim krul lined up but who knows
kopace
Fa Cup games are notoriously difficult away from home against lower league sides. Even players up to speed and match fitness can come a cropper in these games. So bit unfair to label Coates a donkey.
We were all let down, players included by the manager.
But hey! chit happens. It's happened; move on..
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 20:07:40
If Ed001'saround what do you make of Skrtel actually.Is it just poor form? Is he good enough and do you think Rodgers will keep him?
GuvTOB {Ed001's Note - I don't think he is good enough to be first choice for the long term. He doesn't have the required composure, always prone to rash mistakes and is not good enough on the ball. He also lacks the pace to recover from his mistakes.}
Martin was our best defender last year, or have we forgotton?
ITs the BR system that is failing the players {Ed001's Note - no, he was our best defender because Agger was suffering injuries, not because he is particularly good. He has always been rash, always lacked pace, always been lacking in quality on the ball. That is not the system.}
27 Jan 2013 20:06:48
Im sorry Brendan but don't blame the young players, look closely at yourself. You can't play FOUR strikers against a team like Oldham and expect to get a result ? What about the midfield ??
Of course they controlled the midfield, their FOUR players against Allen and Henderson ! What on earth did you expect to happen by playing 4 strikers who don't have a tackle amongst them?
Dont blame the defence they were left completely open because we didn't play a recognized midfield. There was NO PROTECTION for our back four. Did you really expect our midfield players i.e Allen and Henderson to win the fight against FOUR midfielders who were fighting for survival ?
get a grip please.
You cocked up Brendan, end of....but please don't blame the kids, it was YOU who blew it with your poor team selection today..... sorry but the truth hurts. You showed your immaturity today Brendan clearly you do not have the experience to get through these difficult game....why didn't you learn from mansfield ???
I have tried to support you Brendan, but your not learning which worries me.
VERY dissapointed supporter tonight and i'm afraid people like Shankly and Paisley would be asking....what on earth were you thinking by playing FOUR strikers against a team that survive by fighting through every game ? Have you learnt NOTHING ?
grrrrrr
Tel 1040
Wrong team from the start.
Best post of the week, 100% agree
Curled1
Got to agree with you, how can you play so many light-weights in mid-field, even on paper, they can't tackle, or head a ball, so just how were we going compete with an agressive team, hope BR puts the stats from this game in his diary, for next season,
redforever
Spot on Tel 1040
Bobbinred
Agreed.
he seems desperate to make the borini thing work
he's too lightweight and doesn't have a lot of skill either
but I don't really blame the players the manager has to take the blame for this... maybe he needs to do the 3 envelope thing again?
Spot on.
BR never learns from his errors.
Like a stubborn donkey, he persists with this "style of play" (one that has no plan be or alternative style).
How can we continue with this "inflexible approach", new players won't help one bit, the problem is the manager.
Red Baron.
27 Jan 2013 10:10:41
Question for ED 01.
FSG may be many things and I question many of their decisions but they are certainly funding the squad.
In your opinion in the summer what route will we take? A big splurge on player recruitment will surely block Shelvey, Sterling, Suso, Robinson, Wisdom etc
So do you think we will make only a few key signings so as to keep these younger players at the core of the team?
Or would say if we made top 4 would their be a big player recruitment of established quality?
I know summer is a long way off but your opinion is always worth hearing.
As Biesla said it is not "how much you win but how you win". Anyone can do a Mourinho go to top sides around the world and win, but it takes more and means more to build something. It would be a testament to Borrell if the kids went on to be the starting point of a new era for LFC. {Ed001's Note - I expect us to stick with the core we have and stick with the core we have, just adding a few key pieces. I really don't see us going on a huge splurge.}
We have enough young players in the reserves to call apon and they would cost zero
Spend funds that we have on experience and slowly introduce the younger ones when circumstances allow, We are buying younger players than we have in the Acadamy completely defeating the object
Bobbinred
27 Jan 2013 20:13:59
Bad team selection from Brendan. Some players weren't interested.
Is it BR fault that some players weren't interested ? I thought the team he picked would beat Oldham
27 Jan 2013 20:11:41
Robinson telling Luis to FSG off was shameful. BR needs to have a word.
Fred
He wouldn't have said it to Stevie!
I'm a young player who plays at a high level and that is what you say.. If you don't players will walk all over you
Why he had a go so what suarez is not the be all and end all of our club
Like, your going out in loan ...
redforever
Glad someone else picked up on that, Fred. Totally disgusting.
Myrtle Beach Red
27 Jan 2013 20:03:37
Some posts about the consequence of Coates leaving are truly laughable. Suarez's future isn't dependent of whether Coates leaves or not. They aren't married and need to come to a decision about both their futures.
Onto todays game, we were as bad today as we've been in a while, but sometimes these things happen especially in the FA Cup. Let's look forward to Wednesday now, I have a feeling we'll see a reaction as we have done after most defeats this season.
Hans
27 Jan 2013 20:02:55
think all the persons bangin on here about jones being better than reina just got there answer. jones went on loan to irish side shelbourne a number of years back because they had an injury crises. He conceaded 6 in his first game and the shelbourne manager sent him back after 1 game saying he was one of the worst keepers he ever seen. I cringe whenever I see his name on the team sheet because I know that type of mistake is likely from him
jimmy wattana
Bouzanis was the much better kepper out of the two. He was much busier out of thr two. jones couldn't cope with what he had to do! To be fair the defense infront of him was also very poor!
I didn't see your post
I am after putting up a post referring to Brad Jones' time at Shelbourne
27 Jan 2013 20:01:08
Midfield was bullied until Gerrard came on, players not good enough for LFC Coates, robinson(at the moment), ALLEN(never will be good enough)
27 Jan 2013 20:00:16
Rodgers doesn't want skrtle to error prone he'll be sold in the summer! Also bin told carragher is now ahead of him in the team he'll start against arsenal.
He only looks dodgy when he hasn't got agger helping him out
27 Jan 2013 19:59:38
We are a one man team
When the "great one" came on in the second half things looked up and he nearly got the equilizer
Where was Suarez in the second half?
Sturridge & Borini were cancelling suarez out
Brendan the Guru is pants
We have average players all over the pitch at about the same level
We have one special player still carrying the team after 13 years
I know its bedtime
I know support the team no matter what
Yeah, yeah, Zzzzzzz
I know thinking for myself is bad just support
LOL
FACT IS
Great post. Well said! We pay the money and are entitled to our opinions. I hate all this is rodgers we trust, blindly following the team like sheep. We have been let down today by a bunch of overpaid millionaire second rate players. Coates, Robinson, Jones and Sterling wouldn't even make a league two side on today's performance!
Cant believe you post this on a site and call your self a true supporter. not much support being made there... its nice being in the cups but it might not be so bad hopefully we can concentrate on moving up the league
northern deano
27 Jan 2013 19:57:07
People calling for BR's head grow up for god sake stop whining and get behind the team, bad team selection but its one game and to be honest in the grand scheme of things not a important one, one loss and its the end of the world for some people !
Agree with gerrard that more senior players are needed, potential can only get you so far.
YNWA
27 Jan 2013 19:53:09
Can I just say one thing, STEVEN GERRARD was different class when he came on absolutely brilliant, all the money we have spent over the years and we still need a player who's done it for 13 years or more to try and pull us out of the rubbish, will we ever learn, our main problem over the years is we've got rid of world class players and we've replaced them with average players and I mean average, ie JOE ALLEN, what I saw today this guy has so much ball and he does nothing with it except pass back or sideways, fair play to Henderson he gets his head up and looks forward, and for me carra is still one of our best defenders he might not have the pace but for sure he can read the game a lot better than what we're putting on before him ie Coates, rant over.... Kopitegreen
Carra also puts his body on the line and is up for the fight something very few on the team today knows anything about!
27 Jan 2013 19:53:03
Don't worry the real team in Liverpool will march on to wembley.... Blue nose
Keep dreaming bitter
Always in our shadow
Well it worked out great for you last year ;)
always a red
Just like last years semi final.....
10 more years please mrs moyes
Living in your past again... When will you learn... How the mighty have fallen... Once Gerrard has gone... Then what? Look across the park for consistency, pride, and a bit of class... Keep sticking with your policy... Spend big and gain nothing...
27 Jan 2013 19:52:39
we should of gone for mbiwa and sissoko big presence in center isbwhat we need.no pace at cb and no physicality in centre mid
We can't just buy every player other teams have interest in just because we lose 1 game. they aren't proven at this level yet anyways
27 Jan 2013 19:50:13
I'd love to be taking whatever substance you are because I don't see any progression.
We haven't beaten any of the top ten sides in the league and been beaten by a league 1 team who are near the relegation zone. BR keeps playing his pet players with his pet philosophy that any team can combat with physicality and pressing high up the pitch.
Has there been progression?
RedDoc
27 Jan 2013 19:50:05
well done to oldham. all fa cup games away are hard ones. we need to learn to be able to cope with a team rushing us, and being physical. poor defending really today.
anyway suarez not injured, thought he would be given a rest today. stevie g was a different class when he came on. bring on arsenal, much more important game.
B O H
Yes Stevie G took control over mid-field, was just brilliant, only problem was that he had to do it all on his own, once again, we need 3/4 players, and please, over 5ft 6, other teams just push us around .
redforever
27 Jan 2013 19:50:02
It really does not matter who we buy, our problem is the manager, he is not good enough!.
27 Jan 2013 19:48:16
Another stroke og Genius by Roders
Blame the Young Players for the defeat
will do confidence world of Good this man ia a Joke
How about blaming your own signings Allen and Borini both offer nothing both shocking
K.O.B
I always look forward to your posts K.O.B. they are a true testament to your worth.
BigBadBen
27 Jan 2013 19:44:20
After that shocking display Rodgers is going to jump into the transfer market again for Ashley Williams, Mirin and Butland! Jones, Coates and Skertel have no future at the club. I expect Robinson and Suso to go on loan ASAP..
Cheers PDLFC
27 Jan 2013 19:43:41
coates was garbage. he is 6ft 5 and he got beat in the air all game and he has got the strength of a 80 year old nun. . . . . get rid of him
The whole fact is that he IS going, so just wanted to give us a crap performance, as a sort of revenge.
Piledriver
I bet phil jones is looking pretty good now, remember when you were banging on about getting the better deal? What a joke
27 Jan 2013 19:43:41
Hi eds and fans today was hard luck to the reds and we all move on. But, a couple of things I have to get off my chest, 1. Jones was terrible and if peep really is going we have a massive problem that needs addressing quick. 2. Oldham are the most physical and unsportsmanship side I have seen in a while they are even worse than stoke. 3. Our defence was leaky and Steve should have started with carra because Coates was terrible. Hope this is a learning curve for all involved because there are a couple of things BR needs to sort out in the team.
Let's look forward to the arsenal game! Eds what is your take on the game today?
Hibsylfc
If you were a manager setting out a team against us what would you do? I know what I'd do, go physical.
I would of started with Jonjo
27 Jan 2013 19:41:44
As much as it pains me to say this, maybe no FA Cup will help us with the more important Europa League and of course trying for the CL spot in the PL. Hopefully BR will have learnt from his team selection today and subsequent showing on the pitch and we'll have a good run in for the rest of the season.
Keith
How many games to we have to get beaten up physically before he learns though?
27 Jan 2013 19:40:46
For all the people calling for Pepe's head and saying Coates should be kept and use the youth! today shows what happens.
Coates is not good enough at the moment and may never be good enough, that's why he needs to go on loan.
Robinson also is not strong enough and also needs playing time with the big boys, and if I was manager and he told one of my senior pros to F**K off when wasting a golden opportunity, I would threaten not to play him until he showed some respect.
Wisdom Ronibson and Coates just not experienced enough and you can see what BR was on about when he mentioned our defense are too quiet, Skirtle should have done a lot more in terms of organisation today.
Evered
27 Jan 2013 19:40:11
Just watched fa cup game against Oldham...Coates jones Robinson Allen! What I taught all along not good enough.That was the worst performance I have seen in along time? Arsenal and city to come doesn't look good.
What do you think eds ........!still lack strength and depth. Won't get 4th spot this year.
Arsenal will rip us to pieces!.
Add Borini and Steling to that list!
27 Jan 2013 19:35:41
People on here make me laugh, you always get ahead of yourselves when we win but always slate everybody when we lose and say brenden and FSG out etc.... Just get a grip please
27 Jan 2013 19:38:26
I would like to know what people thought of henderson because I thought he had another good game.
The Coon
Thanks
27 Jan 2013 20:10:22
Didn't realise he played. The game past him by.
Most might disagree but I also thought Borini played well. He was played out of position but ran his socks off and set up Sterling for what should have been our second goal. Henderson has played great in his natural position and today he was pushed back a little more defensively but he works so hard and has the talent. Also he is willing to do a job for the team and even step up and play right back. He will be a legend.
Red Rat
I thought Henderson & Downing have both done ok in the last few weeks.......both are still someway short of the fee's we paid for them but ultimately they didn't set the fee. The thought of shipping them out and utilising Borini and Allen worries the hell out of me. Neither are world beaters but add some strength to the squad.
The best out of a bad bunch.
Ozone
27 Jan 2013 19:38:14
Had enough now, rogers out, watched the game today in the pub and all of the lads agreed
May I ask who would you replace him with ?
Well I don't and you shouldn't....
Oh did they. Since you and your muppet mates agreed I suppose it must be true.
Davey Sulls
And do you really think fsg would fund a new managers wish list ?
Just think about it.
Eam
Replace him with Kenny.
Ozone
27 Jan 2013 19:37:25
To be honest, I was disappointed with the result but I do feel the only reason we lost is because once Oldham got their two-goal lead they got all their players behind the ball which is always difficult for any side. I think it was a mistake playing Coates and the goals we conceded where so soft. However, we have been playing great football all season and this was one of very few bad performances. Forget about today's game, that's a once off with a weakened defence, just think positive as we are only 7 points off 4th place, we can do this just believe in Brendan, we are going places.
Keep the Faith!
AdamO'K;) YNWA!
27 jan 2013 19:35:22
we never had all our first team so people saying how we last give it a rest.
missing
enrique
johnson
agger
lucas
gerrard ( last half hour)
reina
pplus it was one of those days
bad pitch
heavy rain
and god they fouled the crap out of our players and nothing from the ref ( sturidge challenge leading to their second goal)
dust yourselves down and smash the arsenal.
william weir
No excuse then, lol. Oldham were missing their best midfielder and got their best winger injured after 10 mins.
G
27 Jan 2013 19:32:46
Would like to settle the Joe Allen dispute for once and for all
Good points - When he has time and space he looks fantastic, keeps the ball moving, picks out the right pass. Once he has passed the ball he always moves into good spaces to receive the ball again. We definitely needed this type of player.
Bad points - if the opposition are closing him down or pressurising him, he looks poor. When the opposition have the ball although he hurries and presses them he gets shrugged off too easily or has to foul them to win the ball
He is never going to win a ball in the air (other teams are not obliged to play the ball on the ground)
He is barely 9 stone and that is with the long sleeve top.
Leam Red
If we insist on pushing the fullbacks forward, then we need 2 strong holding midfielders and that does not suit Allen
If we play with 1 holding midfielder, then he is ideal to be the link man alongside a number 10.
27 Jan 2013 19:30:23
Everyone complaining about the team selection.. Can you honestly say before the game started when you saw the team you were worried and saw today's result coming? That team put out today was a good enough team to beat oldham..Every single one of our player's that started today was more talented than the player in the corresponding position for their team! Bottom line is they wanted it more, the players need to look at themselves, it was not Rodgers fault. If he'd started Gerrard today and then he got stretchered off after 10 mins you would all be saying he shouldn't have played him.
Adam
27 Jan 2013 20:18:09
I thought it was too attacking, light in midfield and had the potential to be bullied on a poor pitch when we can't play silky passing football.
Thomas
Yes - I can honestly say that I was worried before the game, as it was obvious the midfield would be overrun because of that team selection.
I put a post on saying just that, as I was watching the Leeds v Spurs game.
Rodgers made a massive rick with that team selection but I'm not going to crucify him over it. He's doing a good job of that on his own!
redmersey
I see it coming as soon I saw the team sheet.
27 Jan 2013 19:29:48
I can't recall which ed said thought that Jones was a better keeper than Reina but I have to disagree he looks nervous and capable of dropping a clanger at any moment.Reina isn't as consistent as he once was but he's miles ahead of Jones.
Amazing. Someone on here who talks sense! I totally agree.
27 Jan 2013 19:28:28
Hi eds,
After today's game do you think Brendan and the lads would be Bothered with the result. I know things are looking good and we are trying for a top four spot but the only cup we can win this season is The Europa league which will be hard.
GAM#
27 Jan 2013 19:28:13
really good opinion from rogers after the game
finally he is angry with the players..and of course the young ones...............if you expect to play for Liverpool..........u better roll up your sleeves and not wait for the likes of stevie g
so i'm happy what he said..and I am sure he will be telling the young ones that if you want to play for this top club..perform no matter who its against
good on you rogers
red lobster
So waht does he go and do try to sign Coutinho and Ince. 2 more inexperienced young players!
27 Jan 2013 19:25:54
Could someone explain to me what happens to posters names when we lose?
I stand by my comments right or wrong, and respect that there are differing points of view. But at least people know they are my views. 90% of the nameless posts on here are so vitriolic, it makes me wonder if they are trolls (unfortunately we know they arent). So grow up and sign your posts so you can stand by them when your proved right. or wrong.
BigBadBen
27 Jan 2013 19:24:51
King Kenny must be scratching his head thinking how he got the push with taking the club to two finals after Brendon the Clown does his famous 'I have not got a clue' act. Oldham were to clever. Brendon.. you are not clever. Like Man Utd game you are too negative and change games too late. Wake up and learn will ya.
Totally agree with this post
We play far better football now than we ever did under Kenny.
Or maybe you wanted Kenny back to slap in a £40m bid for Bent and £20m for Matt Jarvis?
We have an off day. Don't cry about it.
Ash
27 Jan 2013 19:24:31
Coates bullied off the pitch, Robinson bullied off the pitch, Allen bullied off the pitch, sterling bullied off the pitch and don't even get me started on borini. This is England Brendan not Spain or Italy. We need men not kids!
And BR bullied on the touchline.....Dickov gave him "what for" in the tactics department.
27 Jan 2013 19:24:02
First 2 goals were Jones fault, he has always looked dodgey because he doesn't talk or command 6 yard box.He is a decent shot stopper but he shouldn't be anywhere near the premier league. As for Coates too slow and can't defend in the air to play in premier league he may do ok in Spain or Italy as he'll have more time on ball. I feel that if reina and Carra had played we would have won
Roll on w
ednesday
27 Jan 2013 19:23:24
To all the fans calling for rodgers to be sacked calm down yes we were woeful today but its goes to show how big a job he has in front of him everyone knows the squad is a million miles of top 4 quality you just have 2 look at jones, coates, robinson et al but he always said it would take us a few windows to correct this & he wasnt at fault for buying these players I no allen & borini havnt pulled up any trees so far but I think givin time they will prove to be good buys. We will haveour ups & downs but I believe we are moving in the right direction keep the faith ynwa
Just how are we moving in the right direction?
Please please explain it to me!!!
27 Jan 2013 19:21:22
Robinson telling Suarez to FSG Off was unforgivable. If he said that in a Ferguson team he would be out the door. Worst attitude I have seen in a player for a long time and he should be shipped out on loan and learn some respect.
Steve068
I agree, Robinson should not have swore at Suarez. He could have and should have passed the ball to Suarez instead of shooting. He's still young and and learning his trade so can be forgiven but needs to show respect to team mates
Why would you respect that horse face cheat - no trophies again!
Robeson had a nitemare and not good enough for Liverpool at the moment
Robinson was right to say what he did.
i love suarez as much as anyone but he gives the kids some chewings for not passing the ball to him. he has no right to do that. do you see gerrard or carra doing that no you dont.
suarez had a go at him for not passing the ball to him, when suarez was nearly on the floor by the time jack pulled the trigger.
KUMBER
This is how "kids" learn. From experienced, older and better players
Fred
There is a big difference in a kid (who
is not up to the job) disagreeing with a senior player's opinion that he should have passed the ball and telling that senior player to F--- off. The lad should be out of the door
Puzzled
To the lad saying no trophies again i'll remind you we DID win one last season which is more that can be said for either united or everton, don't include the charity Shield its not classed in the domestic trophie list!
27 Jan 2013 22:42:13
well said kumber. jIr63
Robinsons a full back shooting from an impossible angle when Suarez was in space and screaming for the ball.
If Robinson is not prepared to listen? He won't progress.
At any level, you've got to listen to the senior players.
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 19:17:17
Deffence all over the place.... why Carra was on the bench? He should start !!!
Midfield didn't offer much.... why playing 2 DM against Oldham ???
Why not starting the game with strong team then sub with youngsters when (or if) we are up ??
BR got it all wrong this time
Finaly great win for Oldham they wanted it more than us.
Well its only a mickey mouse cup i'm sure we will do better nx season
Thats the beauty of the f.a. cup!
Maybe to you rodgers got it wrong.
would you put this game or the game against arsenal as the one we need to win more.
fact is the team that was put out should have been more then strong enough to beat oldham.
the front 4 of
downing/borini, sturridge, stirling
suarez
(with countinho somewhere in the mix)
is the attack that we will be going with the rest of the season I would say. the only reason they were all playing was because they need time together.
KUMBER
So we played the young players with Arsenal in mind, We lost this game because of that. What if we lose against Arsenal ? it will make todays loss feel even worse. We always seem to be playing for tomorrow, we are buying players for the future.
We need a better mix to allow us to play for today and plan for the future.
Bobbinred
27 Jan 2013 19:15:45
I'm one of Brendan Rodgers biggest supporters and I think we are making good progress and will finish the season well but today he made a massive error on team selection. As soon as I saw we were playing with 4 small attackers and joe the smurf Allen in midfield I new we were in for a tough game.
How can you expect to grind out a result with that team is beyond me. Brendan you really cocked up with the team selection today. Please don't do the same against arsenal and man city or we are screwed. We need to bring in CB cover ASAP as it is clear Coates can't handle the English game, and we need to bring in a GK like butland as jones is clearly not reliable enough. Fingers crossed we actually grind out a result on weds so we can actually hold out heads up for a change instead of being ribbed by all Arsenal, Tottenham, Everton, man united and city fans. I'm getting sick of being a laughing stock at other teams expense. Come on lads lets grab that 4 th spot and shut these naysayers up for a while .
Jkjk23
Wake up and smell the reallity......what progress have we made.....out of the cups, mid table....do you really think we will get results at Arsenal and Man City...
obviously you have fallen for the BR talk
Haha its only the mickey mouse cup don't worry you got nx season coming up bet your sorry now you got rid of kenny don't think you would of been in this kind of trouble if you had kept him at least you won somthing with him in charge well best of luck nx season and thanks from all the fans of bolton
Like we care what you think
You call Joe Allen a smurf want to bring in Butland just off the top of your head?
Will he be the next one labelled a smurf! Then you say shut the naysayers up.
Your one of them..lol ..ridiculous..
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 19:15:44
Our defence in todays game was terrible and with a couple of injuries that would be our first choice defence do we need to bring in a defender instead of ince who plays in a position where we have quite a few players anyway?
Brian B
27 Jan 2013 19:15:34
Eds.disapointing result tday coates well rusty likewise robbo outmuscled in all areas iam afraid never a pitch to play pretty football, Lucas shld have played perhaps a victory on weds will soften the blow today just one of those days well played Oldham .ynwa
I have no trouble with Lucas not playing, don't want him injured for next couple of PL games at least, but the starting of Sterling and more importantly not of Carragher was our downfall today. BR will learn from it hopefully and the team will respond on Wednesday with a good result.
Keith
27 Jan 2013 19:15:15
i am a BR fan and think he will d a good job for us however today I think he got it wrong.
away in the cup to a lower league team was always going to be a battle and he put a team out with no steel in the middle, SG or Lucas would have controlled the game.
SG comes on and changed the game
we got we deserved today, no automatic rite to beat Oldham who showed guts, brawn desire all the things we didn't.
Jones had a nightmare, allen too but to many others did not turn up. Oldham is one of the worst grounds in the country, its never warm there let alone in january, the wind blows of the penines and I don't think too many of ours fancied it
move on from this, learn the lessons Coates not good enough, Robinson needs time - decent back up for reina(or replacement)
at least we don't have long to wait for the next game and a different line up going at Arsenal and we might just beat them.
graf2966
27 Jan 2013 19:13:52
i hope i'm wrong but I think sturridge has nullified suarez think the team is better balanced when luis is the out and out striker also what happened to tiki taka.
alan waddle
Not convinced by Borini Sturridge Suarez 3 together. We played better with just Sturridge and Suarez. Borini could be useful sub.
Agree with other commentators that Oldham wanted it more and outmuscled us (just like Stoke did) and fair play to them they knew that would be their best chance.
Scousehouse
27 Jan 2013 19:13:06
People saying Rodgers out, haha! Behave he got it wrong and he knows he did but cup upsets happen for example look at Bradford. We will bounce back of this defeat, we need to get over it now its finished and concentrate on the league! The most annoying thing about these people posting Rodgers out is if we beat arsenal on Wednesday they will be kissing his ass!
Hendo had a good game and wow Coates was useless I hope the speculation is right about him not having a future at Liverpool!
Cheers
JonesyLFC
Yes fella but he's paid enough and this wrong starting team is not a first you cannot keep rescuing games.Stoke, Villa, Man u, and today's sides.And today's game was easiest to predict!
Well said - 100% RED
Bang on the money Jonesy! Totally agree!
Smithy
27 Jan 2013 19:12:52
I wrote my post before reading through the other comments and having read them, I feel embarassed to call myself a reds fan. Stop acting like its the end of the world and move the FSG on. So we got defeated by a very physical Oldham side with a frozen pitch that would embarass the Antarctica. Our league performances have been improving and we still got the Europa Cup. We don't have a squad capable of comepeting in ever cup competition known to man!
Brendans done a fantastic job and will still need a season or two to get us to where we belong, he is the right man. Calling for his head won't do you any good because quite frankly, its only you who is. Reals fans can see the difference he's made.
ALSO, it was a time to test a couple youngers to see if they can be relied upon i.e Coates and Robinson. Coates was woeful and Robinson didn't have a good one either but he's done well in the past.
Definately disappointed with the defeat but I'm not pulling my hair out. I understand the frustration but jesus, RELAX!
RedSox69
27 Jan 2013 19:11:54
i, m totally pee, d off with sterling ever since his contract and pay rise the lad has been woeful. He is too weak and gets knocked off far too easily. Against Oldham how in gods name did robinson stay on the pitch terrible player
Do you know the difference between a comma and an apostrophe?
27 Jan 2013 19:11:50
We need a midfielder like diame, not just obvious in this game but all season, I think Lucas and Allen's role is just to similar breaking up play. A bit of physical pressence is needed, think we nearly had him as well and then kk went, typical the one signing we could of done with. He would of been perfect for this type of physical game.
So we should have signed Diame just to play oldham?
Sorry did you read the post mate, does it not stay that it's been obvious all season, and did you miss the part about physical games like today or do you think this is the first and infact only physical game were ever going to play, clueless fool.
27 Jan 2013 19:09:39
After today's defeat, we should really look at experienced players...
Eds, do you know if there's any players with cup winning experience in the market that we can afford or at least have an interest in?
I don't believe Tom Ince will help much in a situation such as today.
knightza AU
Lucas Leiva, Jamie Carragher, Daniel Agger and Steven Gerrard.
27 Jan 2013 19:08:25
When Rodgers style comes good less people will moan on here, mainly because most of the moaning people will have left school. I have never seen so many moaners on here as that have posted in the last 12-18 months are you aware that there is a link at the top of this page to menopausal men talk. You will love it a whole page to moan about on as this is a banter page.
Scouse_Pride
I will not hold my breath for a structured criticism
I will help you start one
Bad points
* Overpaid for several British players
* Never signed a replacement for AC in the summer
* Sacked KK
* Lost to West Brom, Aston Villa & Stoke in the league
* Never retained our league cup
* Knocked out of FA cup by Oldham
* Had our worst league start for years
* Squad age
* Lack of quality in depth
Blah, blah, blah
Post above excuses and nonsense sarcasm.The Oldham lads admitted they thought they intimidated us!
Dalglish is the worse thing to happen to Liverpool in it's history second only to hodgson. he wasted 100 million on players that are barely worthy of the premier league let a lone Liverpool with the exception of maybe henderson. he had no style of play and set us back years.
I don't believe that KK has set us back years as we were already in decline and at least he won a trophy but yes he did not by the correct players and we did lack a formational identity. What set us back years was not purchasing players capable of improving on our second placed finish. We relied too much on FT & SG but never had players that could deputise when injuries permitted. Since 2009 we have been headed one way but under Rodgers we will improve and as soon as he realises which style best beats opponents we will be a force once again.
Scouse_Pride
To the muppet who said Dalglish is the worse to happen to Liverpool in our history you lad are a PLANK! Your probably just some young big gob kid who doesn't even know our history past the mid 90s at best. The man is and always will be a legend but gobrubbishs like you don't see the bigger picture you just see his return as manger.
We don't need " fans " like you and to say he had no style of play really proves how narrow minded you are .
27 Jan 2013 19:08:23
Fans on here calling for Rogers head again after a bad result? Behave. Get behind the lads.
Bristol red
27 Jan 2013 19:07:12
heard that we are pushing to sign butland from birmingham before the arsenal game as the club see jones as a weakeness and then loan butland back to birmingham on deadline day. {Ed002's Note - And that fixes the weakness does it?}
27 Jan 2013 19:06:10
So you lost to Oldham while having Coates, who is apparently better that Phil Jones, Joe Allen the "Welsh Xavi", Sturridge who's a "bargain" for 12m and links up pretty well with Suarez the "best player in the league" in your lineup.So I wanna see how youre going to explain that.
Brad Jones
Muller
& Leeds beat you in the f.a.cup a few seasons ago explain that?
I don't think our players are all better than yours but here's my explanation:
Suarez has scored 21 goals so far this season, enough said
Sturridge scored 3 in his first 3 and looks very promising
Coates came to us as a Uruguay international who won young player of the copa America. He was a comparable bargain to jones for how highly he was rated and what we paid, it hasn't worked out.
Joe Allen came with some very impressive passing statistics, he's lost the form he showed at Swansea and glimpses of when he first arrived. A comparison with xavi was naive but I think that was made on the style of his game rather than his world class quality..
SideShowBob
...but Suarez IS the best player in the league
cozinoz
27 Jan 2013 19:06:02
As Stevie g has said and I believe he's right, to many young players end of story, and Coates jack Robinson and Allen simply not Liverpool standard, greeny s.wales
Agree 2 many young players but come on allen scores and showed us he was at the start of the season he will come back to form coates looks like his head is already at a new club but robo can co he has always looked poor who he thinks he is telling suarez to FSG off
Allen played well today you moaning ninny. He is an excellent young player still adjusting to playing in a bigger club..
And have you ever had a newborn baby. try it some time and see how you perform at your job with the sleep deprivation.
Davey Sulls
Sleep deprecation for players with Mansions and Nannies who don't do 40 hour week? clown
27 Jan 2013 19:05:49
When it comes down to it there was three reasons why we lost today - defence, defence and defence or put another way Coates, Robinson and Jones. We had the warning against Mansfield and did not heed it or more like Brendan didn't.
That's where we need to strengthen before the end of the window, not buying the likes of Coutinho and Ince, although I have nothing against them
Victor
27 Jan 2013 19:03:33
Think that may be the last time we see brad jones in a red shirt! Harls99 {Ed002's Note - Have you ever seen him in a red shirt?}
Quality Ed, QUALITY..
RedSox69
Bang and there it is lol
Eam
27 Jan 2013 19:02:36
good news to coates lover...the clubs that had their interest in coates before had move to other target after seeing how GOOD coates play today so he will stay on!!
27 Jan 2013 19:02:29
BR, please depart before the end of the transfer window... You are not worthy of your appointment.
Disgusting comment. Get a grip all you fickle fans. You'll have changed your mind by wednesday.
In Brenden we trust .... no matter what
Ack17
Blind Trust?
Disgraceful comment. Should be ashamed to call yourself a Liverpool fan
RedSpud
Ack17 is clearly deluded.
Flip Sake post your name you person so I can throw some abuse your way for your terrible comment..
abuse like
go person yourself in your person you person person
I just said person eds to save you the trouble of doing it. But you get the idea mystery man.
Davey Sulls
27 Jan 2013 19:02:23
talk about over reacting guys. we were poor but it happens, they were fantastic it was their cup final. lets move on concentrate on the league. need to get behind our team, stop this Rogers out rubbish there is so many short sighted fans on here. i've supported us for 32yrs. it happens. lets stop this plastic fan rubbish. support your team through great, good, average and bad times. if not jog on. J.h
Agreed. totally pahetic people, did you see what we did to norwich last week. Nothing to do with the manager, blame is totally down to the players.
GET REAL
27 Jan 2013 19:20:22
well said, it's been a bad day let's move on, we've got 2 big games coming up let's see if we are all saying the same thing next Sunday.jIr63
Get Real take note of your own name la
27 Jan 2013 19:01:26
I continue to wish for an enforcer type player for these physical games. Teams will continue to bully us if we try and play this way all the time.I don't think blaming Coates who only plays every 4 weeks is fair.Rogers should have played the same team as last week and get some continuity going.The Dalglish bashers of last season after taking us to Wembley three times can only dream of a trip to London this season.
We#re going to Arsenal on Wednesday!!!
27 Jan 2013 18:59:17
Hello eds, great site, addicted.
There were some positives today.
We can now concentrate on the Premier league. We can get to 12th position.
Most of our players are overpaid rubbish. The positive is that people realise it.
Some managers can get the best out of players. Rodgers cannot. That is another positive. Knowing this is a definite positive.
FSG really don't care. They are just Gordon Gekko money men. Who gives a sh*t about this Limey game football?
Another positive.
Rafa is not doing very well at Chelsea.
Another positive.
Somebody needs to get a grip.
Another positive.
Beer sales in Liverpool will increase.
Another positive.
Good times ahead.
Cabernet Red
Too much cabernet I think...
BigBadBen
Cabernet Red is another name for Manchester red, a poor imitation of proper red, now piss off back to ure own site...........JaySpearingsghost
I dunno about too much Cabernet.
More like too much reality.
Reddo
When you say 'somebody needs to get a grip' were you talking about yourself? If so, good advice!
Littletommythetank
Ah Carbenet Red. Stay away from Ropes, Guns, knives etc. Take a nap.
All will be ok for Liverpool. Trust me.
Davey Sulls
There is a saying....."In wine there is truth".....so well said Cabernet Red.
28 Jan 2013 00:21:15
The fact that people agree to this kind of post proves to me that there are more mancs and evertonians on this page than Liverpool supporters which proves to me that for some reason yous care more about us than your own club.
27 Jan 2013 18:58:56
Devastated by the performance but its not too bad. We fielded a strong attacking line up but it was the defensive bit that let us down. Jones, Robinson and Coates had a shocker of a game. As another poster stated, Sterling shouldn't have started because the physical style Oldham play in and Borini was quite ineffective too.
However, we can now concentrate on the Premier and Europa League. That is the main priority. A push for 4th and a good run Europe will satisfy me even if we finish 5th/6th. We've spent a while filtering the squad and the exits have really pleased me along with the ones that have come in. Aquilani and Joe Cole off our books with Sturridge and hopefully Coutinho in itself is a blessing.
What todays performance certainly showed was how much we missed Johnson, Agger, Lucas and Gerrard. When Stevie came on, he began to dictate the game and lets pray that is what he does on Wednesday.
Lets all put this loss behind us and sing ever louder.
RedSox69
Yea, I agree mate,,, this site has a lot of armchair fans and wannabe managers.dunno how the eds put up with it sometimes... joey
27 Jan 2013 18:58:32
They had us sussed from the start. Go in hard on a team which is largely comprised of lightweights and kids. Use your knowledge of a dodgy pitch to your advantage. We need more steel. Absolutely no question. Like Arsenal in the league cup a few years ago, when you play 4 or 5 non regulars we struggle.
We are not hard enough and when Stevie goes we will be hopelessly exposed. We need him every game.
On a day when Spurs went out and Chelsea nearly went out, it can be seen that too many lightweights/foreigners equals cup upset.
FSG take note, we need more steel and experience now.
Some of the big names didn't cover themselves in glory. When Sturridge is bad he is awful.
Jack Robinson telling Suarez to F.off. Bad decision making on several counts Jack.
Who have we got in our next two games? Ouch.
Our shopping list just got bigger.
Molby was on here the other day saying it shouldn't be a problem, I reminded him of Luton 1987, Wimbledon 1988, Bolton 1993, Bristol 1994, Coventry 1998, Burnley 2005. Now Oldham 2013. We are still a scalp unfortunately.
JTF
Fantastic post
27 Jan 2013 18:58:21
The definition of progress at LFC under BR, 'one step forward, two steps backward'.
Shocking, pathetic performance.
We were lucky against Mansfield, but our true abilities (performances) were shown against Oldham.
Please leave BR, and take that useless Joe Allen, Coates, and others with!!...
27 Jan 2013 18:57:39
The only positive side of this result is there will be less game to play and the team pretty much have more time to focus on premier league where the top four is the main priority...(try to sooth the burning heart)
27 Jan 2013 18:56:28
What can I say, but rodgers gets it wrong again his blind faith in a 5''6 midfielder to boss the midfield has now become laughable, Allen just isn't strong enough brendan needs to accept this and rethink his line ups. 4-2-4 was interesting formation for todays game Jordan henderson must be out on his feet having to cover all the middle of the pitch by himself. But in Rodgers defence some players that most Liverpool fans have backed just didn't perform Sterling just hasn't performed lately I don't know if it's all gone to his head but the lad needs to listen to his team mates and put the effort in what he used to show when he broke into the team. Coates we all know just isn't going to cut it, I also doubt the promise of Robinson his poor positional sense made coates look even worse, he doesn't need any help at looking lost.
sweetleftfoot
27 Jan 2013 18:56:24
Oh my god! Doom and gloom, doom and gloom. Its like no premier league side has ever lost to lower-league opposition before.
All managers have experienced it can I just say Northampton (Hodgson), Reading (Benitez), Wimbledon (Dalglish), I know there's more examples but I am too tired too think.
Not a great team selection, but players out on the field were more than capable of getting a result. i'm not saying like it, but lets have a little perspective.
SA
I forget...which team did we play....and which league are they in.
27 Jan 2013 18:56:19
Oh how the last 24 hours have turned with 'fans'on this site;
I bet this was Sneijders fault for not signing and therefore we must sack Rodgers, get rid of Allen.
You people make me sick.
NY23
Head bury merchants like you make me sick.Fact is there's over reaction to winning and losing at the moment on here.Truth lies between the two
27 Jan 2013 18:55:45
I've figured out why people are struggling with Rodgers and he's only ever one game away from people calling for his head:
He's not an inspiring figure for the fans. He seems quiet and dispassionate, but without the sense of assured control that Benitez had.
That and the fact that some people seem to be getting more kneejerky and entitlement minded every day.
- Something Red -
27 Jan 2013 18:55:44
Morocco go out at the first hurdle, can't be good for Assaidi's confidence..... {Ed002's Note - He'll be back early.}
27 Jan 2013 18:55:42
Hi Eds,
I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the show.
Thanks
Thatracoonstolemybacon
27 Jan 2013 18:55:02
God Almighty, you guys are just bunch of whiners. When we win 5-0 against Norwich, you get all arrogant and start to visit opposition pages and show no respect to other teams especially teams like Norwich etc. I remember seeing one fan writing "Does even Coutinho know what Southampton is?".
Now we lost to a lower league side, everyone one associated with club is rubbish. Well you might forget this, you still are so called fans of this club full of rubbish which makes you no different. When manager plays youngsters you whine because you loose, when he played full team and lets say we lost to Arsenal mid week, you bugs crawl out and whine again that manager is person for playing them in "Mickey Mouse" cup and costing us 4th place. Choose a side, Choose a competition you really want to excel and stick your "Knowledgable opinions" to it. Coz whether you like it or not, This squad is no where near strong or ready enough to Play and do well in 4 competitions. And then when we do buy players to cope tight schedules of this sport you again whine why buy Coutinho when we have Suso. I find it hilarious you bunch find some thing to always whine about.
P.S: I am equally pissed, but we don't have a divine right because we think we are bigger club than Oldham and even if I exactly didn't like their brand of football, Kudos to Oldham, They were just up for the game and we are not. Another lesson in this harsh season for this young, talented yet inconsistent squad. The convincing wins in last 2 months shows this team is improving the performances, but results like today shows still the team is raw and inconsistent.
I wonder what would these mongers be doing if we some how found goal in last 10 mins and forced replay. It would be some change of scenario. Yet doesn't get any childish.
AJ
27 Jan 2013 19:21:46
Completely agree mate. Constructive criticism when we win is met by being called negative, by the same fans who call you "blind" and whine about everything when we lose and you still try to support the club.
Can I not be disappointed with a loss, without resorting to crucify the team, manager, owners and everything else.
"If you can't support us when we draw or lose, don't support us when we win"
Jolly Red
So your happy then?, great.Hope we progress your way getting knocked out of everything as long as footballs pretty
27 Jan 2013 18:55:00
Oh how the mood changes! So we lost, looked disjointed and several players didn't turn up. The cup is an opportunity for lesser teams to cause upsets and lets be honest we have had a weekend full of them. The smaller teams go for it, they have nothing to loose. Move on...a good kick up the arse from BR will secure a win against the gunners on Wednesday...YNWA
Keep dreaming.
27 Jan 2013 18:54:35
I know i'm usually positive, but FSG off Coates! He knows he is leaving, and it's like he is getting revenge on the side. I bet, that if he turned up and he wouldn't have given off his negative approach to the others, we could have won the game comfortably.
Piledriver
27 Jan 2013 18:53:04
They way I see today it was a disjointed team selection, I guess he was going for 4-2-3-1 but Allen and Henderson were overrun in midfield and Wisdom and Robinson did not give them outlets when they were on the ball meaning they were hitting it too long or caught in possession. Allen in particular drops too deep to collect the ball and then it is difficult to get the team up the pitch.
I know the Eds keep supporting Robinson but on the basis of his last two first team performances I don't see it and quite frankly if someone offers £7 million for Coates snap their arm off! Brad Jones is a solid back up keeper and no more. His distribution is poor and he is not much of a shot stopper.
All in all a bad day at the office but let's not get carried away that it was any more than that. I for one would rather lose today and have that concentrate the players mind for the next couple of league matches. I believe the team is maturing well and think BR is doing a decent job all in all. Maybe just lost his focus this week with the personal issues, not sure how many training sessions he missed.
Jason
I agree mate Coates was dreadful and has always looked a bit suspect for me. If someone offers 7million for him I will give him a piggy back to the medical personally.
Brad jones's distrubiton and shot stopping are terrible so how does that make him a decent back up keeper?
Can't see it
Pegleg
27 Jan 2013 18:52:59
hi eds
i think we all have to calm down stop slating the players. imo we were the best team but some you lose like that, big seb was of the pace but he hadnt much game time and it showed think he needs a carra beside him skrtel to quiet. robinson the same lack of understanding showed with him and no matter what in football at that level passengers will cost us.Tommy Irish Red
27 Jan 2013 18:50:38
We won the passing game though, in all seriousness I think that Rodgers time is already up, what do the readers think ed?
I think you're talking nonsense.
27 Jan 2013 19:21:43
Sorry but your talking total nonsense, Rogers needs at the very least two full seasons, old red nose only won one FA cup in his first SEVEN but fans like you want BR out after half a season? LFC was in a bit of a mess when he arrived, it will take time to mold and create a top team, and we will have many, many more bad days along the way, but you have to have faith in BR, and remember, if a new manager is brought in, we will have to start again,, most of BR's signings will sold and all new players that suit the new managers style of play will need to be brought in and all the players will need to, again, learn a new football system all this will set us back another season! All fans need to be patient, we're on the right track!
MR EM
When I saw the team selected, the mid-field really bothered me, did we not learn from the mansfield game, the 1st half, we had no mid-field at all, they were way too light-weight, the writing was on the wall for all to see, all oldham had to do was to be lots more aggressive, and they were, it was only Stevie G that saved face for us, now we know 100 per cent, the likes of Stoke, will always beat us, and we make it far too easy for them, and as for wed nite, forget it, write that one off too, its our next two home games that will take back up the table, oh this learning curve is doing my head in .
redforever
When I saw the team selected, the mid-field really bothered me, did we not learn from the mansfield game, the 1st half, we had no mid-field at all, they were way too light-weight, the writing was on the wall for all to see, all oldham had to do was to be lots more aggressive, and they were, it was only Stevie G that saved face for us, now we know 100 per cent, the likes of Stoke, will always beat us, and we make it far too easy for them, and as for wed nite, forget it, write that one off too, its our next two home games that will take back up the table, oh this learning curve is doing my head in .
redforever
SAF was appointed 25 plus years ago.....the times have changed.
27 Jan 2013 18:50:36
Never seen BR put anywhere near that side or formation before.
BR shown respect for the cups like Mr Benitez & you get found out. Our manager should always respect our cup traditions.
Sorry but to start with 3 strikers + sterling, without Gerrard then Coates instead of carra, crazy.
The old 2 steps forward 1 back. Stinking result.
Jimbob
27 Jan 2013 18:50:19
sas my arse more like saps. Games like that we need andy carroll but brain dead brendan can't see that.
Andy Carroll?
Give me strength!
May be worth pointing out that Sturridge has scored more times in the last 2 weeks than AC has all season. Perhaps brain dead you can explain that one...
BigBadBen
27 Jan 2013 18:50:16
2 man Midfield is a Shocker... 2 of them are not DM. And, for Eds I have seen Andrew Flintoffon the game...I am his biggest fan and can anyone tell me which team he Supports?
Indian Red
27 Jan 2013 18:48:22
Please am not a fan of rodgers, but don't come here posting rubbish about the team he put out there, that was a very strong team that should have gotten the job done against oldham..how can you say he didn't do his homework, why da faaaq do you think skrtel and coates started..coates for the aerial threat and skrtel for the physical presence, whose fault they both failed miserably.
Robinson had a poor game, jones played with an injury but that's not an excuse for his performance. Sterling and allen weren't good enough.its the players who should rather look at themselves after this performance, it has nothing to do with rodgers.what else does borini need before he scores a goal
And the standouts for me were gerrard, hendo, suarez.just move on we lost, let's focus on our next game no need to post crap.goodluck to oldham
27 Jan 2013 19:15:13
What game did you watch. Suarez is a great player but he scored today and that was it. There wasn't any beef in the midfield so we were overrun. Coates shouldn't have played as his value just went down about 2m today awful. The team selection was poor as was the formation. Why does BR keep persisting with Borini he's a big waste of money. I don't agree with you la but I'm not going to get into an argument. Ynwa!
Albert
27 Jan 2013 18:47:57
The match was awful
Jones- to be was rubbish can't see what everyone sees in him. If I was playing Infront of him I'd have no confidence what so ever. He should've dealt with the cross for the first goal and held the ball for the second. Plus the oldham player had every right to commit his self when he blundered then got upset he got clattered. His distribution is pathetic.
Coates- played a mare, looked completely out of his depth and no wonder BR can't see a future for him.
Sterling- just doesn't look the threat he was at the beginning of the season and may need a rest?. I still think he has a bright future.
Borini- still not sure on him just doesn't look to be polished enough
Sturridge - He looked poor today, his touch, passing his whole game play was lacking. not sure if they were to physical for him today but I think he'll have a bright future at Liverpool and I was excited when we signed him
As a whole I thought BR team selection was poor, only one experienced defender at the back with a poor keeper and a very young team which had to face a bigger more physical team
Pegleg
27 Jan 2013 18:47:44
Well guys look at the bright side, assert least we don't need to worry about Tom Ince being cup tied.
On a more serious note you can see why Coates is going to be leaving in the near future, and I think it is clear we either need a centre back who can combat aerial threats more effectively (Kelly would be ideal IMO) or a more physical defensive midfielder, I would love to see Flanagan given ago there, I think he has the mental and technical ability to play there and just has that leadership edge that we really lack at the moment.
I think Jones should just brush that performance under the carpet because he has been our best keeper this season.
I felt for Robinson, I thought it was an awful decision to play Coates right beside him, why not play Skrtel on the left hand side? Two players who have not played more then 5 or 6 games this season and haven't started a game since last year, and to the fact that they are very inexperienced.
Let's just hope the lads forget this result quickly because our most important game of the season so far is just round the corner.
Get behind the red men!
Jatt YNWA
27 Jan 2013 18:46:27
Ima huge LFC fan but gotta say Oldham deserved it today, credit were credits due i'm sorry to say
Yip fair play to them, they totally deserved to win.
Best of luck o.a.f.c
Eam
27 Jan 2013 18:46:01
I had asked before about any possibilities of bringing a left back to cover for the injury prone enrique amd one of the ed said that there is no need because we got johnson who is also an injury prone player that can play there and we also got robinson as a decent backup...he is not decent mate..he is worst than decent
27 Jan 2013 18:44:39
another top result reds why are you so poor it just makes us evertonians so happy, peteEFCforever.
Makes me happy thinking how many times we've broke your hearts at Wembley
27 Jan 2013 23:59:40
Why stop at wembley? Makes me happy to think of the number of times we have completely overshadowed them! They finish above us once and suddenly they're the best team in the world! Bit presumptuous considering the season isn't even over yet!
27 Jan 2013 18:41:13
wow, after today's performance I'd say we need to get rid of Coates asap!
Unfortunately, I have to agree, also Flanno too.
Get rid of Coates? I agree but put him down the same you bend as Rodgers, Borini and John Henry. Together they are destroying our club. Rodgers is a total clown.
27 Jan 2013 18:40:36
You know were the door is Brendon and take your welsh xavi with you
I understand were youre coming from, its frustrating times but keep the faith and trust BR because its who we've got! i'd would of stuck with Kenny but here we are......
The defence was at fault today, Joe Allen didn't have his best game, but in the 2nd half he showed determination and fight much more than some others.
27 Jan 2013 18:40:34
Bitterly disapointed! I hate the way we put out weak sides for cup games. Is finishing 4th the be all and end all. Cup runs last season were great plus we missed the chance of a home tie against Everton too. Gutted!
I believe Rodgers is the man to take us forward but days like to day will not go down well. As soon as I saw the teamsheet I was concerned as the back four are inexperienced. Robinson needs to learn his trade and should be put out on loan in my opinion as he is no way near the standard needed at the moment. And Coates why was he played if by all accounts he is on his way out of the club. If Carragher would have played that game with Skrtel we would be through to next round.
Regarding Borini not convined about him. The premiership seems to physical for him and FA cup even more so. However time will tell and I hope I am wrong.
Positives Gerrard superb again, Downing and Henderson getting better. Suarez usual good performance and linked up well with Sturridge at times.
Good luck to Oldham you deserver it today.
Steve068
Not convinced about Borini?? I am. Worst player ever to wear a red shirt. Him and Rodgers are utter crap.
Yes 4th place is the be all end all for the owners at least, that's why Kenny was sacked. I have to agree with them in principal and would rather have 4th than any cup we're currently competing but I'd still like a cup run every season or 2.
27 Jan 2013 18:38:51
to all those who have been posting on here all season saying 'why coates hasn't been given a chance'(and there has been a lot of you!!), the display you saw by him today is the reason why. He's the slowest cb i've ever seen, who doesn't seem to know where he should be! skirtel spent most of the game marking two players! poor performance from a very average player. And to those who want to see the back of Reina, take a good look at jones' performance!(poor!)
27 Jan 2013 18:36:32
Coates isn't good enough. Robinson had a shocker. Sterling shouldn't have played in that game; it was too physical for him. Borini, I can't see what his real strength is but I'm not going to write him off. Sturridge fell away in the second half (tiring maybe). Downing has improved but is still disappointing. And how anyone can Jones is better than Reina is beyond me.
Apart from that.......ha ha. Roll on Wednesday.
Rigsby.
Totally agree!
however I think we will do the gooners. 2 sides playing pretty football I think now we have sturridge we the better side
27 Jan 2013 18:35:40
The only good thing from this game was that we now know what Daniel Agger is (priceless).
REDistani
And so is carra as he is miles better still than Coates
27 Jan 2013 18:34:56
Disappointed with todays performance. Too many players didn't seem to turn up. But we have the arsenal game coming up, so need to move on and pick ourselves up. My only thought was maybe we should have made a change in midfield at half time, as we didn't seem to have much control or protection of the back four. But not much we can do now!
PM
27 jan 2013 18:34:27
not a rumour a fact, its not new players we need a.s.a.p its a new manager'one of the worst days in our history.get rafa now
Oh dear, another poor deluded benitez fan...how sort and rose tinted peoples memories are!
Welcome back negative posters, please go spread ya negativity else were.
u stick with a football club thru thick and thin.
How was that the managers fault you fool.
He put a team of International players out against Oldham.
They lumped it toward in bad conditions and
Individuals made mistakes
Its fool's like you who give fans a bad name person
Lyndon
Lol
BigBadBen
What a clown you are. If I were you I'd remain nameless too. Firstly, today was a poor performance and we have lost because of individual errors. But true supporters understand that this is a work in progress. We are a better side than 12 months ago. We have a better squad than 12 months ago. We have a lot more youngsters being given experience and opportunities than 12 months ago. What would bringing rafa back achieve? He done a good job first time round but things lost there way. Move on. I really hope BR is given the opportunity because I and many other true supporters appear to understand that he is moving the club in the right direction. Comments like this jut make me laff. Go and support Chelsea or City you muppet.
By the way.....I realise I forgot to add my name this contradicting myself....
Jenko
Rafa?? just have a look at chavski with all fantasy football they can offer
Chelsea did not do much better, Rafa is making a right balls up them especially with the players they have - things could be worse - imagine Rafa back!
Lyndon la it is a work in progress but Brendan denies Steel is still required and games like today are classic cases.Carra and Stevie should start v tough lower opposition.Win game then make changes.You continually prove a)you don't go to games b)You don't know basics of football in any shape or form
Same pitch and conditions for all..... using that is another poor excuse.
The manager is to blame....he got it wrong....underestimated his opponents....BR is a joke.....a monkey learns more rapidly!.
27 Jan 2013 18:33:42
If and When the referendum on Europe comes out as a positive for leaving the EU will all European nationality players have to apply for a work permit ?
Based on today Skyrtel! Borini and Allen (Wales will have independence) are buggered !
JUst a thought !
Sorry but not much thought gone into that statement!! you really think that Skrtel was the problem in defense?? Maybe you thought that because it seemed like he was the only cb we had playing today??
Don't take the comment too seriously you muppets. Just trying to lighten all the depressing posts.
Clearly the comment isstill travelling over your head. People like you should have an IQ test before being allowed to post !
27 Jan 2013 18:33:31
Did people not see Coates and Robinsons performance against Mansfield? How can anyone be so surprised that they're rubbish.
I'm not an expert but doesn't it make more sense to start with a strong side, get the game wrapped up, then take players off to rest them
Kelly Red
27 Jan 2013 18:33:20
sturridge was awful today I can see why the chelsea didn't realy rate him he is going to be a luxury for us I personally did not want him here not good enough. JIMMYLFC.
27 Jan 2013 19:22:55
Three great performances and one bad whole team performance and he deserves this? Get out of here you muppet!
Haha! One poor ish game and your on his back, he hit the ground running and I bet you wasn't saying this then. Give the lad a break if your going to point blame at anyone for that loss Coates is your man just awful!
27 Jan 2013 18:33:00
Terrible, it was freezing, and the roof was full of holes so I'm soaked. One good thing is the drive back isn't too long. Home for me tea!
FowlerisGod
27 Jan 2013 18:31:19
poor result but not much point tearing into the young players after this type of match, they should put that effort in every week and would soon find themselves lookin at promotion instead of there current position, but fair play to oldham no sour grapes from me they deserved it .I really hope BR kicks a few fellas to wake them up before arsenal .red2toe
27 Jan 2013 18:30:42
Backwards that was oldhams first home win in 6 games, jones wisdom, Coates, Robinson, 4 bad changes all at once in a team cost us, one chance of wining something and rovers blew it, and to add solt a home tie against everyone, thanks Brendon'
27 Jan 2013 18:30:01
Lets hope BR learns from the Man Utd display and go to Arsenal with negative tactics. I can see a 5-0 defeat otherwise.
Rubbish, different side will be put out on Wed
27 Jan 2013 18:29:43
I want BR out, he can talk the talk but can't reduce the results, what was he thinking putting a team link that out, absolute pathetic and embarrassing, hanging my head in shame as a lfc supporter
The last bit of your post is the best bit.
BigBadBen
27 Jan 2013 18:29:28
just wait to hear the waffle rodgers will come out with as an excuse. Robinson has the worst attitude I've seen in any player in a long time and should be shown the door. He's not even chanpionship quality. I hope suarez grabed him by the throat in the dressing room.
The way Robinson reacted to Saurez's advice about how to find a team mate was a disgrace and deserves not to play again this season. No excuse being a young player, needs to learn some respect and show the right attitude
Victor
27 Jan 2013 20:29:25
Robinson had a poor game, was frustrated, tried a shot on goal when maybe he should have passed, then swore at Suarez who is an angel and has never said or done anything wrong in his career! we all make mistakes. jIr63
27 Jan 2013 21:29:09
Jack Robinson who had a poor game, tries a shot on goal when maybe he should have passed, he then swears at Suarez, the little angel who has never said or done anything wrong in his career! get a life, we all make mistakes.JIr63
27 Jan 2013 18:29:16
Coates is shambolic and that's a compliment, Mansfield and Oldham made him look woeful. 6ft6 and gets beat in the way too often, he looks like his boots are made of concrete. Anyone wondering why he doesn't play look at those performances. Should have been hooked at ht.
Robinson had a shocker too. In fairness to him it's the first time i've seen him perform so poorly in a red shirt, so I'm not going to write him off.
Jones has performed solidly this season but there's no excuse for mistakes like that.
Borini isn't getting a fair crack of the whip imo. This lad reminds me of Chicharito; a penalty box specialist. He most certainly isn't a winger and has been anonymous is most matches. I feel for him.
Sterling needs a spell in the rezzies. His form has dropped off the face of the Earth. He'll come again though so not to be written off yet. Same applies to Wisdom.
I thought Henderson was solid in all honesty. He rarely does anything special (Except v Norwich) but provides great energy in the centre of the park which is ideal in games like today. I like this lad alot.
Allen isn't performing at all. I just don't see him have a good game anymore. I dunno what's caused him to play so awfully the past few months but Brendan needs to sort this kid out ASAP in a similar way he did with Downing and Henderson.
That's just a number of my thoughts. I'm not going to say Brendan out etc, I just wanted to share my feelings after a terrible display.
Thanks
LB
Jones is rubbish always has been.
27 Jan 2013 18:27:26
First of all well done to Oldham and good luck in the next round,
First person with his hands up should be BR that was a terrible team selection and this should be closely followed by a number of the players he put his faith in I.e sterling, Coates etc. if we were at home we may have got away them changes but away he should have played his strongest team. That's the fa cup I guess now on to arsenal.
Mo
Our blue cousins from across the park picked a full strength team yesterday. Their reward - they're still in the cup and we're not.
A lesson to learn Brendon
Victor
27 Jan 2013 18:27:13
Until just before the game everybody was bracing BR. Now that w lost a game everybody is slating him and the players. Coates had no games for months. How can you blame the guy. I think yes BR made a mistake with the formation today. Don't forget he is human. All humans do mistakes. Give the man a break and let him sort out the team.
Alex7777
He's making same mistakes too often though
27 Jan 2013 18:25:50
Oh guys stop complaining, still in Europa and slowly climbing the league table...at least now we have fewer competitions to concentrate on. We have a great new striker who is fitting right in and hopefully Coutinho coming in, lots to look forward to...look on the bright side eh, it's done now, let's move on
Not good enough is the point your missing
27 Jan 2013 18:25:15
Once again BR shows his weakness. Why did he not play the experienced players from the start then change it. Very poor. BR is dragging this club through the gutter.
Just can't see what all the fuss is about this guy. I see and read all the posts about the wonderful passing. The game is about putting the ball in the net. Plus the fact he has wasted £15mill on Joe Allen. He and Borini must surely go down among the worst ever waste of money buys. There are better managers out there.
27 Jan 2013 18:24:57
Dear Mr. Rogers
This letter is written by a life-long Liverpool fan, who currently lives and works in Saudi. I am writing to kindly request my Al Jazeera satelite subscription money back for this season. As you seem quite prepared to pay for lavish meals to the players if they win three in a row, it seems only fair that the fans gets reimbursed after performances like the one we just witnessed today. I bought the Jazeera package just for the two cups (premiership is a different satellite) and only got to see us play around four games in total. The total cost for the season was approx 65 English pounds - roughly the same as Coates' starter and desert at the posh restaurant. I doubt he'll ever get to be a starter again! I am happy to take a cheque - so long as it is not Coates who signs it, as he is obviously not reliable and it (like him) is unlikely to clear when needed.
Rest assured that I am still a Liverpool fan, and unlike the angry mob outside Anfield right now, don't consider today to be a "giant killing" ... we lost the right to that title long before you arrived! I only hope that instead of taking the lads out to dinner this week you send them round to the houses of all of the supporters who paid to watch that drivel today, and you are able to reimburse them too. Maybe the lads could have a whip round and buy Borini a new pair of boots whilst your at at?
Sincerely,
Stephen
I pay more then that a month on sky.
i would never second guess my support of the team, players and management.
just cause we are Liverpool does not mean we have a right to go through.
i would hazard a guess that if we beat the goon's that you would be out on this page talking about how we need to give rodgers and the team time, till we lose again.
any team that lose a game in a season is not a real football club.
just like a fan who slags off his own team after a loss is not a real fan.
KUMBER
27 Jan 2013 18:24:44
Well done to Oldam. They played well and deserve to go through.
We were poor with all the changes but the side Brenden put out was good enough on paper.
IMO Jones was to blame unfortunately, he had a mare and in a way might not be a bad thing with some thinking he was good enough to take Reina place.
Boroni does not look like he has any quality, but he is young, not sure how he will get a game in the league til the end of the season.
Disappointed but rather go out to a lower league side than anyone else.
Shouldn't be difficult for Brenden to get the boys lifted for Weds......but I'm worried we will get a thrashing if we play like we did today.
27 Jan 2013 18:24:02
The whole team were woeful today, the team BR put out should have beating them easily but these things happen when you play lower league teams in the fa cup, they bring you down to their level, I'm sure we would have slaughtered them if all the experts (ie haters) on this site were playing instead. We got beaten it happens believe it or not.. Onto Wednesday and we get 3 points off the gooners!
YNWA
JJ
27 Jan 2013 18:23:58
Just waiting for your comments eds saying nevermind its one of those things...progression my backside {Ed002's Note - I am astonished at the new levels of fickleness being achieved by the Liverpool fans. It is a lost game of football, suck it up and move on.}
Fickle fans? Thanks eds very complimentary {Ed002's Note - The majority appear to be spewing hate at the manager and most of the players at the moment. Obviously a lot are getting cut as well.}
27 Jan 2013 19:30:39
No i'm with Ed on this, some of us are painfully fickle, all whining and complaining because we lost to a side who fought tooth and nail today. It's always someone's fault isn't it! We win and Brendan is the mesiah, we lose and he's the devil in disguise, get a bloody grip! Suck it up and move on, cup runs are nice, but the league and Europa are more important. We fielded and inexperienced side who still should have won and we didn't. Sure there are some issues with the team selection, but Brendan is still growing into the position, and doing a good job. We have good players who sometimes have an off day, they don't deserve all the crap most of you guys throw at them, I just hope to god none of them read this tripe! We're meant to be the best supporters in the world, sadly many of you guys are seriously letting the side down!
Most fans would moan at that performance with cash their on losing battle against lower Leauge side.Some sides criticise their Manager without giving him a chance, and cheer when their main Strikers taken off!
27 Jan 2013 18:23:38
Hi Eds....heard Tom Ince was at the game today??? Any truth in it?
Kabir {Ed002's Note - I have no idea.}
27 Jan 2013 18:23:14
Please don't blame the ref for that - it wasn't him that made us lose today. We shot ourselves in the foot letting in two, if not three atrocious goals attributing to individual mistakes from the likes of Jones and Coates.
I saw first hand today why the club are looking to move Coates on. One of the worst performances I've ever seen from a Liverpool defender.
Djimi Traore.
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 18:44:35
Fair play, cannot blame the ref, but missing that horrific foul on Sturridge was a turning point in the game. Had it not been missed it would have not lead to the second goal and we were really pushing at 1-1. Other than that the ref had a good game I thought, Oldham's goals were good esp the third, but don't blame people for being mad. He made one mistake, that in my opinion determined the result...
What is with the Jones hate? He has been a good stand in this season, terrible game today but all players are prone to an off day :-/
Kvarme.
Jonesred
27 Jan 2013 18:23:09
Rodgers Got it wrong He is The worst manager I've seen at Liverpool Talks the talk and everybody falls for it he is a con artist it is so Comical that fans fall for his talk, trys to keep Gerrard and Carragher onside as he knows he is out his depth if Coats leaves Liverpool Suarez will Follow
He has no plan be what so ever
Should have started with his strongest team and kept the momentum of results going
Coats had a poor game but to be fair he hardly plays and comes into a team that hardly ever plays
Joe Allen and Fabio Borini are very very poor signings
Allen offers nothing and I mean nothing I send him back to Swanse in a flash
Suarez will be gone in summer to pay for January signings and will Pepe
Martinez built the swanse style of Play not rodgers
Kennys Team hammerd em got to 2 finals and got sacked
K.O.B
Intelligent and structured arguement.
Bedtime now though don't you think?
BigBadBen
So you want Martinez to take over? I bloody love this page.
Melbourne CFC
27 Jan 2013 18:39:51
You'd have sacked Benitez in Jan 05, then?
- Something Red -
27 Jan 2013 18:51:51
Martinez who's turned Wigan into regular relegation scrappers? Fathead Bruce and Paul Jewell finished 7th & 8th with that club.
- Something Red -
Not At All Just saying the guy in charge of our club has acived nothing and should not be there K.O.B
Melbourne ain't you got your own problems fella?Or can't you generate passion on your own pages?Hang on I ve answered my own question
Never mind mate, back to school tomorrow to take your mind off it.
Hans
Never bother posting on this site again.
You just lost all respect from any knowledgeable poster.
AnfieldUSA
27 Jan 2013 18:22:58
I got slated on here a few weeks ago when I pointed out how Robinson and Coates were absolutely awful against Mansfield. Well what did you think of their performance today?
I won't be all negative and start slating Brendan and the team, I just wish now that he realises those 2 player (Robinson, Coates) are simply not good enough for Liverpool.
And just one other point, what was up with Downing when he came on, he literally couldn't pass the ball 5 yards, just when ya think players are starting to improve
Kelly Red
Nothing wrong with Coates.
A lot wrong with the manager.
Monte Rojo
I presume you're being sarcastic when you say there's nothing wrong with Coates, either that or you didn't watch the match today
Kelly Red
Ha...sorry can't stop laughing at that observation 'nothing wrong with coates'
brilliant...guess you missed the game today then??
27 Jan 2013 18:22:13
Bye Suarez....you deserves a better team.....you deserves better results....your place is not Liverpool...you belong to barca or madrid, big teams who hunt the greatest reward in european football, not here, beaten by small club
It's been a joy to watch you play, but you deserves higher standard of football
Thank you for all your hardwork and good luck.....
27 Jan 2013 18:22:00
as am not an obvious fan of brendan no need to slate him..we are out of both cup competitions, now we have only the europa league to think of and top4.he has also spent over 40million on new players?i see the progress everyone is talking about
27 Jan 2013 18:21:11
BR get a grip, we have no chance of champs league, you obviously don't get LFC MR Rodgers
27 Jan 2013 18:20:34
First time poster Coates isn't good enough and either is wisdom robinson I taught they where very poor today also dissappointed that shelvey and suso didn't start as I see them as progressing into very good players.. Sterling is someone I have high hopes for but I was really frustrated with him today!. hopefully we get 3points aginst aresenal YNWA
27 Jan 2013 18:19:55
Call yourself fans?
Liverpool do not have a god given right to win every game.They win some they lose some like every other team. It's been a strange weekend results wise just look at Mk dons, Leeds, Brentford, Luton.This is what the FA cup is all about.
When would you play the likes of Coates, Robinson and any other player in the squad? You have to play them to see them in match situations.
We have a much bigger game on Wednesday and remember all the usual suspects will be back.
So to slate the team now is terrible but I bet you that if we beat Arsenal everyone will be saying how great we are.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
We have a young team/squad which can only get better
Keep the faith my friends and we shall reap the benefits later.
Paul
Just one thing you wise ass this isn't rome okay and atleast king kenny got us to the finals of these domestic cups so shut it loosing to a league one side is a disgrace
Think the problem today was that we got out muscled. When you have two 19 year olds and a 21 year old in the back 4 your always going to struggle. Think we should have gone in with are strongest side. Still think BR is moving us in the right direction.
Bilverstone
YNWA
JFT96
27 Jan 2013 18:18:57
Woeful defending and a poor choice first 11 for me, when is the manager going to start taking cup competitions seriously?
Credit to Oldham they showed a lot more desire and commitment than the overpayed overated reds today.
Sorry guys but that's the reality, outplayed and outgunned by the minnows, hopefully Rogers will get his act and formations together fairly quickly as were playing for very little this season.
Scouse Red
27 Jan 2013 18:18:49
well I hope all you rodgers lovers enjoyed that . the man has no idea clueless. allen borini div 1 players at best
27 Jan 2013 18:18:40
We can't really blame Brendan, because he put out a really strong side. Only the players can be blamed.
Piledriver
Are you blind? HIS team were pants! Why did he bring Gerrard on then eh?
Coates, Robinson, Allen, Borini, Jones are not good enough!!!
Start with your best team, win the game...it's f**kin' easy! Let's here what BS and spin the phoney sod comes out with now!!
27 Jan 2013 18:18:09
Right then Reds.
This could be a blessing in disguise as the last time that we were knocked out of a cup by a lower league team we won that trophy the following season. Northampton beat us in the League Cup in 2010/11 and we won the trophy in 2011/12. Let's not dishearten our season so far.
* We now have more time to concentrate on the league
* Less chance of losing a key player through injury
* No chance of a replay creating fixture congestion
Bring on Arsenal YNWA
Scouse_Pride
27 Jan 2013 18:18:07
rogers total disrespect for oldham back fired on him with his team selection he needs more fire power and a big tough midfield general
Yes correct but Brendan says we don't need steel if he doesn't accept it will be sword he perishes on
27 Jan 2013 18:17:59
Can we please not start slating Allen, it's not his fault we lost today, it's because we were 2nd best all over the pitch, especially in defence! Skrtel and Coates can't even handle a lower league player, pathetic isn't the word! We under estimated Oldham, it's becoming a reoccurring theme us under estimating our FA cup opponents, I've stuck up for Brendan Rodgers but he got the team selection wrong, badly wrong! I'll support Liverpool until the day I die but when will we learn? The FA cup was the one trophy we had a chance of winning but yet again we won't be winning anything
James
How can you say" yet again" last year we won one cup final and reached the final of another stop whining and get behind the team rather lose today with the kids and thrash arsenal on wed night with rested first team players and push on for 4th spot with the rewards of cl football next year!
27 Jan 2013 18:17:39
If only whining made for good football you would be champions no doubt its the refs fault or The Great Alex Fergusons fault you sucked out today.
Never mind you can now move on to how great you'll be next year you'd better hope Ratty doesn't want to abandon the sinking ship
Pardoe
Pot and kettle comes to mind here purple nose blames the refs and suarez for everything these days lol piss off back to the Man Utd site.Tommy Irish Red
Wait, the sinking ship? Last time I checked, Liverpool wasn't in half a billion pound debt crisis.
AnfieldUSA
27 Jan 2013 18:16:32
I see one poster slates Allen and all the sheep follow on.
Allen was one our better players today and competed throughout.
Rodgers got the team selection wrong, Coates is a big lad and as such probably needs to play regularly to get up to speed, Robinson is very young and inexperienced was totally exposed the whole game.
Carra and Shelvey left on the bench for what was always going to be a physical game was a huge mistake.
Skyrtel and Coates are both very right-sided players with a weakness on their left side. They should never be paired together. ( Not hindsight as I posted that very observation last week)
Anyway we now have to be totally focused on the league,
which could turn out to be good thing come the end of the season.
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 18:16:31
We are trying to build a team to win the title
Can someone just remind Brendan it is a premiership title we are after and no longer a league 1 title
Leam Red
Bad day at the office, we were set up all wrong and were rattled even bullied by oldham
Can see why other fans say we are a one man team sometimes - Gerard made a big difference just needed to come on earlier
We're not building a team to win the league we're building a team for the future! Just shows how personic sole fans our!
RedSpud
27 Jan 2013 18:16:03
Lets put this into prospective, yes we lost against lower league opposition and certain players didn't pull their weight but for Christ sake why is everyone hitting the self destruct button. True supporters stick by their team no matter what happens wot Eva happened to YNWA!!
27 Jan 2013 18:14:29
i swear some fans don't know the depth of how to play football.
everyome says borini is useless - do people watch him off the ball ? his runs and effort create chances. suarez wouldn't of scored if it wasnt for him.
and for allen - no he aren't no gerrard but he keeps the play ticking over keeps the ball moving makes space to receive the ball and is always an option to pass to
i aren't saying these players are perfect nor are they gunna set the world alight but they do a job and work for the team
and I as a Liverpool fan will support them back them untill they turn there back on the club
wolvo_Jake
27 Jan 2013 18:14:23
Lets hope coutinho wasn't watching that, might change his mind.
27 Jan 2013 18:14:13
Slating or not, I'd like to have my say. For the first time ever I'd like to point o some issues I saw with the team today.
1. Brad Jonea needs to do something about his silly attitude of consistently dropping balls that end of in goals against us.
2. IMO skrtel and Coates pairing is the worst I've seen in a while. Right now I think I understand why Coates is being sold off. He might be match rusty but his show today was terrible.
3. Midfield coordination was disastrous till Gerres stepped into the game. I'm worried that if Gerrard gets injured we will have a whole lot of issues in our midfield.
4. I want to believe Borini will get better. If he continues with this kind of form I doubt if he would go far.
Positives
We might be out of the FA cup but consistency from Sturridge, Suarez, Downing & Gerrard will help us a lot in the near future.
We were a wee bit unlucky today with the two uncalled penalties and the shot shot off the crossbar. OMG! What a shot!
We have additional time to focus on the remaining games a la Premiership and Europa competition. We should make the most of it and work towards fourth position.
Finally, we may decide to moan of our errors, team selections etc it will not change a thing. The deed is done and the worst has happened. We need to look forward and start to think of the next game against Arsenal.
Please limit the slatings, I am only expressing my opinions.
Despite the loss, YNWA.
Oseunfunmi (Anfield Red)
27 Jan 2013 18:14:01
Well folks that was an embarrassment. Some of our players need to get a set because yet again we were merely out battled by an opposition that we should be beating.
It should take a whole lot more than firing a ball up to a large center forward to break down a Liverpool defence. I think that a new goalkeeper and a centerback should be our priorities next season.
I guess today proved that Rodgers is right about Coates who was woeful, but in fairness I don't think that the first (striker leading with the elbow) or second (foul on sturridge) goals should have stood. Lee Probert had a shocker, then again so did just about every Liverpool player on the pitch except Gerrard.
Positives are really hard to find to be honest. I think Rodgers made the correct substitutions, I think that Gerrard had a stormer when he came on and Allen scored. Downing was also okay. Now we just have to march on and try to do well in the Europa league and finish as high in the league as we can. I am hoping for a much better performance next week but well done to Oldham, hopefully they beat the manc's.
derryred
27 Jan 2013 18:13:31
We definitely need to sort out the other end of the pitch now we've sorted our attack, I can see why Coates has no future, English football is just not for him, Skrtl has been just average, below average at time, nothing like the player he was last season, the same for Agger. We need a CB with physical and aerial presence, but also not clumsy, and good on the ball. Riena has just been not good enough this season, the last 3
for that matter, and as for Jones, I crap myself every time there striker gets in the box, haven't seen him make one proper save if I'm honest and as for his handling today.... It speaks for itself. To summarise, I think we need a new CB, young, hungry but with ability, a new LB, I don't think Robinson will make it and Enrique is fairly prone to injury, and a new goalkeeper, with is good at shot stopping, and rarely makes mistakes! I know it can't just be done, but over Summer and the window after that we need change. HullRED
27 Jan 2013 18:13:25
here comes in brendan rodgers 'we don't trust'
27 Jan 2013 18:12:17
Today highlights the fact that our squad players clearly are not that good! For me Jones, Coates and Robinson were very poor. I believe we have a good and improving first 11 but the quality in depth isn't that great and will continue to cost us over the course of a season
27 Jan 2013 18:11:51
Before people start going on about the ifs why's and what's there is one person at fault here. Now don't get me wrong I think BR is the right man etc etc etc. However, if you go on about wanting to win the F.A Cup all week then the blueprint when playing against lower league teams is this. Play your best 11 and when your 2 or 3 up at half time take a few of your best players off. Why oh why do prem managers always do the opposite of this it makes no sense at all. If you want to win you play a team that can win. Sorry Bendan but you got it seriously wrong today. Another embarrassment for the club. Especially when I'm sat with a bunch of Oldham fans. I can't begin to say who played worst today. Borini waste of money, Coates clown, be jones nightmare(everyone on here who said he should replace pep hang your heads in shame) wrong team wrong tactics. EMBARRASSING!
Albert
27 Jan 2013 18:10:09
Team review
Brad jones: where do I start
Robinson: shocker why he doesn't pass to Suarez when he is throught we will never know
Coates: slow clumsy frankly the worst cb in the stadium
Wisdom:okay
Skrtel : okay
Allen: okay but 15 million??
Henderson: played well considering brought energy and a degree of tempo
Sterling : form is currently in the toilet need to be taken out of the first team for a while to rest
Borini: 10million oh dear what does he actually do match fit or not wow he has got to improve
Suarez: okay
Sturridge : okay ish should have done better with a few chances
Gerrard : captain fantastic
27 Jan 2013 18:07:12
That was pathetic, for f**ks sake I said our defence looked weak and boy was I right. Everyone of those players should never show their faces again, losing to Oldham???? Where were our players? The only one to come out of that with any credit whatsoever is Gerrard, all of the rest were an embarrassment to Liverpool football club and Sterling should never play for us again, that boy is totally useless; if we had someone else in his place who was in the least bit competent then this result would have been different. The chance that he missed and the amount of times he gave up the chase when defending was unforgivable, not to mention the amount of times he gave the ball away which set up a lot of their attacks. Sterling smacks of a player who has the 'I've made it' attitude written all over him, he doesn't even try in anything, dribbling, shooting, defending, absolutely and totally pathetic.
Good post Mrs Sterling, hope you have a quite word with young Raheem
27 Jan 2013 18:07:11
As an outsider looking in I would just look to suggest something to you guys.... How about a 433 with Gerrard, Allen and Lucas then Scott Sinclair (sign him for cheap)on the left, Suarez middle and Sturridge on the right. You have no height going forward yet persist to play Downing etc.... It seems pointless. What would you think of Scott Sinclair in a fornt 3 for you?
27 Jan 2013 18:06:57
Hi eds not a rumour but just finished watching the game and Coates was shocking. He is simply not good enough to wear the shirt. I think that any bid that we get for him, the club should accept it and ship him out .
Keep up the good work
27 Jan 2013 18:06:43
Can someone please explain why this keeps happening to us. We always go to pieces when we are the over whelming favourites.
We did it against Cardiff at wembley, we've do it so often at home it's not funny.
So frustrating.
Cos not enough players of steel or real determined winners in side.No leaders
27 Jan 2013 18:06:42
Fair play to Oldham, wrong tactics by BR again but we'll move on and hopefully learn another lesson from this season.
27 Jan 2013 18:06:40
Rodgers got in badly wrong today Coates was awful and Robinson had a stinker you need experience in games like that and he started with carragher and Gerard on bench young manager making big mistakes both in transfer window and selections we are crying out for experience and if Rodgers is not careful he won't be around to witness the revolution
Swansea red
27 Jan 2013 18:06:32
why act all suprised its trademark Liverpool when you think they are hitting their stride, they turn in another poor performance.well that's another cup gone..we now have only the europa league to think of
27 Jan 2013 18:06:26
Could you all now stop holidaying on the United page trying to poke fun where no fun is to be had? Get back to your ongoing transition and tearing strips off each other. You were a top team, but right now you have a way to go, a couple of good wins against md table opponents is not the second coming. Those of you having a go at United need to take a reality check and realise how ridiculous you are.
AJH
27 Jan 2013 18:05:52
well. 2 players that people been raving about coates and jones and they put performances in like that ? not acceptable.
dont think we can blame rodgers tho tbh. there was enough quality on that pitch to get the job done. and didn't do soo.
well lets put this behimd us. clime that league table and have a rum in europe
In Rodgers I Trust
YNWA
keep up the positivity !
wolvo_Jake
27 Jan 2013 18:05:37
Coates aka leadfeet... He was terrible. He's supposed to be a force in the air and got bullied all game, Robinson is garbage the boy looked completely out of his depth. Jones looked scared all game. If we sell reina we definitely need someone else in cause he's a #2 at best. Borini looks like a cross country runner, just chasing all game no skill at all. Allen looked good today played well IMO. Gerrard definitely can still perform for us for a couple years. Finally with results like today I wouldn't invest in a Suarez jersey because I expect he'll be off to Munich or Madrid in the summer
- Slim
27 Jan 2013 18:05:20
I'm going to the pub while the school boys come out for a cry. Be back when there tucked up in bed about 8, school night remember gents! Can't believe some so called fans
Mickelburg
Good help us when fans start accepting performances and results like today
Well that's just it Lyndon kid millions and other people prepared to accept sub standard performances set future tone
27 Jan 2013 18:04:58
Liverpool far too lightweight, its all right building for the future, but you also have to live for today, we realy need some experiance to get us through the next couple of years, rubbish today, just no good enough BR
27 Jan 2013 18:04:48
Jones not good enough, Robinson and Coates embarrassing. No wonder Coates is on his way. How long Devwe going to have to rely on gerrard. Getting sick of this.
27 jan 2013 18:11:11
i'm not going to lament, but i'll just say"we've lost our very definition".
thatcoolheadedboy
tobi3
27 Jan 2013 18:10:56
Brendan Rodgers takes the team out for a meal because we won 3 successive games - QPR, Sunderland and Mansfield.
Perhaps this is fine for a team in a relegation battle but I would like recognition linked to Top 4 performance.
Tactically naive, soft players and and a salesman as manager - only one team can play Tiki Taka FACT
27 Jan 2013 18:10:50
any time there is a tall CF lpool find it diffiult cope.. happind with stoke and again today.. do you think der could be a defender brought in b4 end of window.. also I hope coates goes he is terrible
Tough Centre half in Ron Yeates mould required
27 Jan 2013 18:10:50
People slating the team selection today... You do realise we have probably have the biggest game of the season so far this season Wednesday? Good to see Gerrard angry though so I expect him to get the guys pumped up for this game and we will see a completely different team. Bring on those gooners!
27 Jan 2013 18:10:44
Not the result I wanted but have to say..
Well Done Oldham
27 Jan 2013 18:10:32
Not a great performance, thought Jones, back 4, Allen, borini & sterling were under par. Bring on arsenal
27 Jan 2013 18:10:05
Its funny how everyone is blaming Rodgers on a bad team selection even though he put out a very strong team that should be able to win these games. Before the game, everyone was saying what a strong team we had and praised Rodgers. Don't blame Rodgers, blame our defense and that the other team just played with more passion than us.
These things just happen, though every time Liverpool have lost, they always bounce back hard. Looking forward to Arsenal.
We must have arsenal quaking in their boots
If there is one team you do not want to play open expansive tika-taka football it is arsenal
27 Jan 2013 18:10:04
What a bunch of whiners we are. Look down this page and be ashamed. Get a grip.
BigBadBen
27 Jan 2013 18:09:48
It is always disappointing to lose a game - especially to a team in a lower division - but the world hasn't ended! This was Oldham's cup final - this is what the competition is all about. They are entitled to a win !
The only points I will make is- Raheem Sterling needs to be left out for a while. Coates has not had enough match time to develop any kind of confidence so perhaps it was unwise to expect too much. Goalkeeper
errors? ask De Gea - they happen
Puzzled
27 Jan 2013 18:09:10
Need some experienced ready made players?
Sound familiar??
27 Jan 2013 18:08:27
It's the FA Cup. You are a big side. You are away from home playing a pub side on a pitch that looks like horses are kept on it. You know that this is their moment of glory and that they are going to throw everything at you. Do you put your best players out there, stamp your authority in midfield and give as good as you get, or do you put out half a team of reserves, a weak midfield and surrender the middle of the park. I just do not believe that team selection and tactical formation that we put out. A midfield of Suarez, Allen and Henderson? You are having a laugh. Three worst players out there today - Coates, Allen and Sterling. Robinson looked weak as well. Oldham didn't beat us because they played well - they didn't. They beat us because of poor team selection and grossly naive tactical formation. RED LENIN
27 Jan 2013 18:07:38
what a disgrace!just shows what a big centre forward can do, cause havoc but wait a min wasnt andy carroll doing the same before buck rodgers cast him aside!!yet again he messes up the line up and we get taken apart!and he believes this squad is good enough jesus wake up and smell the grass!the owners and buck need too have a hard long look at themselves cause this aren't good enough! were Liverpool fc
Are you for real? AC has been ripping up trees since we loaned him out? it was a traditional FA cup tie FFS. Oldham deserved it on the day. Get over it.
BigBadBen
27 Jan 2013 18:04:39
Just to rub it in they draw Oldham against Everton..
Dont worry, your older brothers will get them back for you, ha ha coyb
Coutinho now desperate to join Saints!
Oldham3 Liverpool 2
Saints last visit to Oldham?
Oldham 0 Saints 6!!
27 Jan 2013 18:04:23
Players need to stand up & be counted. Robinson needs to go on loan & gain experience. Sterling needs time in reserves, bring his head back to this planet. And both centre halves need to grow a pair.
Still on course for top 4?
Agree with you mate except sterling reserves will do him no good, some time on the bench and the odd sub appearance, we are expecting too much out of him he looks tired, a top centre half to partner agger is a must in the summer
27 Jan 2013 18:03:53
Some may not agree, others may but henderson for me was our best player today.
Henderson looked the only player comfotable in posession today
27 Jan 2013 18:03:17
The players who started the game today should take part of the blame for that Horrendous performance, but most of the blame has got to go to Brendan Rodgers. BR picks the team he learnt nothing from the Mansfield game. We haven't got the luxury of changing half the team like others have we should start with our strongest team get a lead then take off your better players.
well pissed off red..
Hes gotta rest our key players for the match on Wednesday or have you forgotten that? The Europe League and the Premier League is where our focus has to be this season and he got it right. Didn't want to risk any key players and he got to test out his attackers as well.
A bad result indeed but when we all cool down and look at it tomo we are in europe still and competing for champions league spot with a small squad, this could be a blessing in disguise, i, m never happy to go out of the cup but all our focus can go on fourth place and europe now
Well first of all I am not one to knock the manager or the team but I seen the team for today and thought lfc could come unstuck today of which we did.Brendan will learn by this that the romance of the fa cup brings the best out of so called lesser clubs as we seen today, we don't have strength in depth to be able to field a side of reserves and win.we have all called for the youngsters to have a go and brendan has given them a chance so lets not go screaming and calling for heads to roll as gutted as I am, we have a young manager and young squad their all learning.
Deano
2nd poster you play best side, win the game, then make changes with next game in mind!Get it?!
27 Jan 2013 18:03:13
Sorry but Rodgers has to take the blame for today. Poor team selection. Didn't do his homework on the aerial threat and physical presence of Oldham. Coates, Robinson just not good enough and Jones had a 'mare.
Oh he did why else would coates have started the game? Coates just didn't perform as was expected.
Coates is 6'6" and skrtels main asset is his heading and strength. So you'd expect these two to be able to deal with any problems from Oldham. Robinson needs to go out on loan, and sterling needs some rest. Jones had a nightmare but the boss knew that and that's why he's only a number two.
27 Jan 2013 18:02:40
Hopefully Coates will leave this month, he had a stinker today!
LP
Coates aren't usless, just no confidence as never plays I tell you if he Goes Mark my Words so will Suarez
Rodgers is Usless clueless talks the talk but really what has he ever achived ..?
K.O.B
27 Jan 2013 18:02:39
JUst not good enough,
Coates= useless..
Jones- not good enough
Robinson- not good enough
They all need to have a long hard look at themselves
Simon
27 Jan 2013 18:02:37
I'm sorry to have motd fever but Coates just put in one of the worst performances I have ever seen from a center back. Some poor performances all round apart from Henderson and Gerrard, other than that not one player stood up and took the game by the scruff of the neck. On a lighter note it was nice to see Robinson out as he has decent potential but was wasteful when he was put through. One very upset LFC fan
27 Jan 2013 18:02:19
Just because he scored in his first 2 games does'nt give him immunity from critism, I have, nt seen for a long time a player pass to the opposition as much as sturridge did today
jaycee
27 Jan 2013 18:27:36
he was useless
3 in 3 not 2.
Scouse_Pride
27 Jan 2013 18:02:15
I can live with resting a few players but the team Rodgers picked today was an accident waiting to happen.
There was no balance or thought to it whatsoever - so much for 180 page dossiers, a bit of common sense would have served him better. When you have no chance of certain trophies, it makes sense to go for the ones you can win. Rodgers doesn't seem to have grasped that just yet.
I'm not just being wise after the event, I posted my concerns before the game, as soon as I had seen the team selection. The Ed said we would be alright. Pity he was wrong.
redmersey
Said same fella
27 Jan 2013 18:02:06
Not a great performance today from the lads, but 3 pts on Wednesday and I'll forgive them. I think Brendan will just have to put this one down to experience and move on.
FT
It's not about experience, he should of known better
27 Jan 2013 18:01:34
In Brendan we trust...don't make me laugh.
Stop being dumber than an ass!!!
Thatcoolheadedboy
Tobi3
Forgot it was a managers job to stop the goal keeper spilling and make Robinson jump at the right time! He doesn't have an Xbox controller to make them do exactly what he wants, he has to make sure they know what to do and it's up to the players to do it. Don't start slating the manager for that, no wonder managers aren't given enough time with people like you around.
How can Rodger's be blamed for that? He can't account for a keeping mistake, he cannot account for the 6 ft. 6 coates getting destroyed in the air by oldam's center forward. He cannot account for Sturridge not knowing what team he was playing for. I say this because not once in the second half did he find a red shirt. The ref also had a howler.
derryred
Brendan Rogers and Colin Pascoe are the chuckle brothers - they've turned this club into an absolute joke. I wonder if our training sessions involve these two jokers putting on funny outfits and telling one-liners. They certainly don't seem to be doing much in the way of coaching or tactics.
Hope BR is mindful of the fact that our previous manager was sacked for winning the League cup and getting to a FA cup final.
This guy does not have a clue, he put out a very inexperienced midfield and we got hammered for it.
G
27 Jan 2013 18:01:22
Hey Tel
How's that transition going?
G.A.G.U.S
Gagus the transition has been taking place for about 6 years now!
Since 19 bloody 90 we've been in transition one excuse after another
Hey gagus
how's your debt going?
AnfieldUSA
27 Jan 2013 18:01:16
Disgraceful how can a team aiming to be playing in the champions league get beat off a struggling league 1 side fa cup or not we should be turning teams over of oldhams standard
One thing to say York 3-0 man united playing lower league sides is harder than playing teams in your own league!!
You are talking nonsense!.. we got beat by Burnley in 2005.... Champions of Europe 4 months later... it wasn't good enough today, but historically these results happen every year in the FA cup, unfortunately for us today was our turn
Adam
Just like Chelsea turned over Brentford.
Q.P.R turned over Mk dons
Tottenham turned over Leeds.
We have not got a given right to turn up and expect to win.
I remember a team getting beaten by Burnley in the third round of the FA Cup and then going on to win the Champions League. Hold on........
FT
27 Jan 2013 18:01:06
Oh no, what is United going to do now with no Liverpool left to put them out of the FA Cup, as you all promised they would!!
Oh and I hope you've got better players coming through than Sterling, Robinson and Wisdom because they are PANTS.
An Dun Red Devil
Cos Tom cleverly is amazing? You ain't brought any think decent thru the ranks since giggs
At least we have youth coming through and not having to rely on 39 year olds and bring them out of retirement.
Oh by the way how much debt are Man utd in??
Well, they've got Coates.....
Beckham and Scholes came after Giggs and they turned out ok.
27 jan 2013 18:01:03
get rid of coates. disaster!!!!
27 Jan 2013 18:00:43
Oldham deserved that result.MATTYLFC
They showed more heart and commitment and our squad underestimated them.
Scouse_Pride
Border line commitment more assault on the pitch.But we should have players who can match that and ain't because Brendan says we don't need them ahem emmmmmm!
27 Jan 2013 18:00:38
absolute disgrace, players look like they don't even care. no desire to win what so ever. with an attitude like this we won't go far...
joe
27 Jan 2013 18:00:34
Could have done without that parting gift from Coates!
-Shane.
27 Jan 2013 18:00:32
I can't believe all of the abuse for Joe Allen today. Him and Hendo battled hard, but were out-numbered. The starting formation was all wrong. In away games like this you need to control the midfield and we started with 2 in midfield and 4 attacking players!!??!!
This plus some very poor performances by some of our younger and fringe players lead to a shocking result.
I'm an admirer of BR, but he got the selection and formation wrong today and not for the first time this season.
Gutted,
Raoul
27 Jan 2013 18:00:23
i kinda don't care
but managers do get it wrong sometimes..and he did
4 attackers and 2 in midfield..against a lower team in the fa cup is suicide
but you live and learn
huge gaps infront of our back 4 and allen doesn't play there..he didn't for swansea either..so we missed a defensive player
oh well
red lobster
27 Jan 2013 18:00:22
Obviously not happy with the result but fair play to oldham. played to their strengths and did it well at times. Wasn't impressed with coates attitude. he just didn't seem up for it at all. Jones was poor today, but its the only bad performance I've seen from him so not stating him
Jones is carp most of the times he's played but he's lucky we normally have a good defence in front of him. He fumbles 8 out of 10 shots/
27 Jan 2013 18:00:17
BR doing a great job, however shown today no plan B, why play the kids, in a game you must win, Well done Oldham, too many players not yet ready, does not mean they are not good enough, just not ready yet.!!!!!!
Well the same people were slating Kenny last season for not playing the youth in the cups.
derryred
When would you play the kids?
27 Jan 2013 18:00:11
After the loss to Oldham wait for the sack BR posts. Long and short of it, team sent out was more than good enough to win!
Oh well!
27 Jan 2013 18:00:00
That was shocking. BR and the players should be ashamed.
Crowman.
27 Jan 2013 17:59:40
!! That result has made my day. No sorry my week maybe year...
Tree Blue
So the highlight of an everton fans yeah is Liverpool getting beat? Says a lot really
True Red7
27 Jan 2013 18:19:00
Cross to your small home Everton.
Is your life really that barren?
(of course it is. But that's just you Tree Blue. I've tried to speak to your mum, but she denies shes anything to do with you...)
BigBadBen
You must live a fun filled life.
I almost feel sorry for you. Enjoy it.
Rigsby.
Because your team have nothing for you to highlight.
AnfieldUSA
Can't wait for Tree blue crying when Moyes and Fellani leave you at end of Season.And at times when I'm down like this I think of all the Finals and Semi's we've broke your hearts in, brings me involuntary laughter every time
27 Jan 2013 17:59:38
22points behind United and out of both domestic cups!.. well that's progression for you!.
27 Jan 2013 17:59:06
Can't help but feel that Rodgers would be vindicated in letting Coates go after watching him today. Fair enough he's strong and has ability in the air but he was struggling against players who did not possess real pace, imagine Lennon, Walcott, Valencia, Aguero running at him, not good...
27 Jan 2013 17:59:06
I hope I never see robinson coates or jones in a Liverpool shirt again. Take a bow brendan.
27 Jan 2013 17:58:29
Oh dear, oh dear oh dear.......
Disney!
27 Jan 2013 17:58:17
We need to kick out few players, because they are not ready to fight.Robinson, Coates, Jones...I can understand bad day, but lack of desire no.
27 Jan 2013 17:57:46
I'm only going to leave this here:
If every top flight manager was rated off cupsets than it would be a more insecure profession than it already is.
- Something Red -
27 Jan 2013 17:57:16
Robinson. Coates shocking
27 Jan 2013 17:57:12
Bad team selection
kevc
27 Jan 2013 17:57:05
coates is rubbish
27 Jan 2013 17:57:01
Didn't realise Oldham were a top ten side...
Oldham, to their credit, played to their maximum(poor mans Stoke). Speaking of which, we got out muscled against them didn't we?
We really struggle against direct teams don't we?
Lee YNWA
27 Jan 2013 17:56:57
Lol lol
Stagmufc
27 Jan 2013 17:56:44
Rodgers out.
Excellent post mate, how long did it take you to think of that one?
JJ
27 Jan 2013 17:56:18
I must say this, I'd gladly swap Brad Jones for Dean Bouzanis after this performance! Wasn't Bouzanis a Liverpool player till last season?
Cheers
VGRed
27 Jan 2013 17:55:22
God, this forum on a bad day makes me want to slit my wrists. A funeral directors is a more joyful place.
Remeber the words of You'll Never Walk Alone and remember that Rome wasn't built in a day and no side become title winners over 6 months.
Jolly Red
Still no excuse for losing to Oldham
People are allowed an opinion jolly and hopefully an educated one, its not the going out its the manor in which we went out.
Top post!
RedSpud
Let's just bury our heads in the sand and pretend everything is fine and dandy then shall we?
I am appalled that some LFC supporters like Jolly Red are happy to settle for this mediocrity.
27 Jan 2013 17:53:59
Ill be happy with a champions league place.
Reusch.
Not looking likely though is it
27 Jan 2013 18:14:07
No way ul get a champions league place. Championship place maybe??
So would every red fan.. but with this lot it isn't going to happen....
27 Jan 2013 17:51:43
Boring offers absolutely nothing
27 Jan 2013 17:51:38
We need new left back, Robinson isn't good enough for Liverpool maybe for championship, but not for us
27 Jan 2013 17:47:17
I believe only Henderson, Suarez and a bit of Sturridge are playing well! Good goal by Joe Allen, but he was woeful today.. Just hope that he improves...
Cheers
VGRed
Good goal! It was a deflection Stevie w
Tree Blue
At least you are finding positives but Sturridge was woeful. Gerrard and downing did well but.
derryred
27 Jan 2013 17:43:25
Raheem Sterling's form has nose-dived considerably, since he got that bumper pay rise.
I don't think anybody could argue re his form dropping, but I honestly think part of the problem is that the lad is so mindful of Rodgers demand to pass and hold possession, that he has curbed (to his and the teams detriment) his natural game and football instinct to actually run at players ...the thing that actually got him into the first team.
27 Jan 2013 17:42:02
when you buy few player you have to proof they are best player and in order to do it you play them often that cost you match. BR just doing it. no Gerrard no Lucas Borini is starting as a striker suarez in wing ? he score more then 20 goal and starting as a wing. what formation is this ?
hhh
Gerrard has played EVERY game this season, despite many of us suggesting he would be bit part.
Lucas is still not that long back off a long term absence.
Don't blame the manager, blame the players. That team was more than good enough to beat Oldham on paper. To be honest I don't think BR can win, if he goes first team everyone would have been crying out for rotation which may I add is necessary! We cannot go through 3 competitions with half a season ahead and only utalise 15/16 players..
SideShowBob
Br another manager who knows less than the fans, sad day for us
Carra not start this match ? so why he is in the team ?
27 Jan 2013 17:41:33
Coates has got to go! the whole side was shambolic today! but Coates was the worst of the bunch! and people on this site want Jones to be our first choice keeper? come on!
And robinson not good enough
27 Jan 2013 17:40:46
Coates is a donkey
TheWelsh
27 Jan 2013 17:40:26
Gerrard is priceless, jones is pants really need better no2, come on you reds
27 Jan 2013 17:40:16
YESSSSSSS JOE ALLEN!!!!!
Shup up and crawl away haters!!
RD
Took a **** off massive deflection
It was deflected.. Hello.......
Deflection joe not good enough no matter how much you want him to be
The shot was heading towards the corner flag, until it hit an oldham player and went in. Does that make Allen worth 20M now ?
27 Jan 2013 17:39:57
Allen scores. Bloody hell, he picked a good time to pull that off.
- Something Red -
27 Jan 2013 17:39:02
Coates isn't useless - that's an insult to joe allen.
27 Jan 2013 17:38:50
The magic of the FA Cup has made Joe Allen disappear
Dobbsey
Playing for Liverpool makes him dissapear...
27 Jan 2013 17:38:47
Far too lightweight today. Defence should never have been picked. Carragher should be on to sort out defence. Don't see Couthino coping either with these kind of games
27 Jan 2013 17:37:52
Maybe this is Coates' revenge
RedSpud
27 Jan 2013 17:36:20
8 mil. For Coates, bite their hands off, I will pay his train fare
I will but him a private jet, he can go anywhere he likes.
27 Jan 2013 17:34:15
Brendan lad you go to cold physical grounds you start best side that includes physical players.Your fault lad, aswell as you've done of late.Stevie should always start.And against lower Leauge-Carra for physical side.And Organization v arial assault.And you can't see or know that!
Thanks for your input lad. I'd take you over BR any day... (and you'll probably miss the double meaning in that as well..)
BigBadBen
Hindsight is a great thing, the team he put out should easily have beat them but nobody performed today
JJ
Gotta agree, enuff said!!! We knew they were going to play long all day, mistake by BR with no carra, roll on weds vs the gunners
27 Jan 2013 17:32:04
lads calm down your slating Liverpool now but on wednesday if we beat arsenal sudddenly its rodgers is a god and were going to get top 4 either support Liverpool or join the mancs if you just want glory
Dream on this team can't beat arsenal.
Why?
So we can finish 6th and potless?
Would rather finish 8th with a trophy thanks.
Beat Arsenal!!??
we played poor due to poor team selection"its simple"Boroni, Allen, Coates should never have started!?
there is little hope against Arsenal
Funny that, we got beat at home with reading in the cup at home a few seasons back then we beat inter milan 2-0 at home the following game. Its the FA cup mate that's the magic of it, suck it in, move on
Ian the red
I agree with ian the fa cup pulls surprises aka barnsley remember. Defo there are players that do not suit the rodgers way but give the guy a chance what are Liverpool really going to go sack rodgers sell allen for half what they brought him for same with borini and bring in a manager who going to do the same no point!!
27 Jan 2013 17:30:58
Getting knocked out of the FA cup will surely help Liverpool in their bid to battle relegation.
Al MUFC
You should worry about your battle to be a non plastic Manc!! Where do you live mate, Bangalore ?
Oh like you guys when Fergie leaves?
LS7.
It will be Al MCFC in about 3 seasons.
derryred
27 Jan 2013 17:29:19
Got to say, since Sterling has signed his new contract, he's been pants. Too lighweight for my liking and no crativity.
The whole team looks flat and tired. Wouldn't be too disappointed to go out, but to Oldham ? Hmmmmmmmmmm
RD
27 Jan 2013 17:28:57
you guys can slate those young guys all you want.but for me its skrtel who I have an issue with..organise this freaking defense
Skrtel has been average all season. Combine him with coates who settled into english football, you can see where the problems stem from
27 Jan 2013 17:27:12
I can accept losing. It's part of the game. I can accept losing to a lower league team. Cup shocks happen, this season has amply demonstrated that. I can even accept an awful performance because that happens too.
But what I can't and never will accept are players who just look like they don't care. Anybody who wears that red shirt should be prepared to shed blood for the cause. Some of our players need to take a good hard look at themselves and ensure this level of non commitment never happens again.
ad
27 Jan 2013 17:25:13
Ed do you think we'll come back from 3-1 down?
27 Jan 2013 17:23:03
Jones- pathetic
Allen- anonymous
Sterling - clueless
Borini- waste of a shirt.
Not a game for youngsters. You do not disrespect the FA cup Brendan!
It's always one step forward and 2 steps back with you Bren. When will you ever bloody learn?
27 Jan 2013 17:21:09
Good to see Henderson back to his usual ie crepe
27 Jan 2013 17:42:41
Not entirely sure what game you've been watching. Only Suarez was better than him for us until Gerrard came on.
- Something Red -
27 Jan 2013 17:20:57
Watching Joe Allen and Raheem Steling is painful. I am sorry lads, BR was wrong about Allen and Sterling has been rubbish for three months
27 Jan 2013 17:18:18
This is embarrassing. Had decided to stop posting but need to let off steam!
We have no quality in midfield and being out muscled everywhere on the pitch.
If we get beaten here no team will fear facing us and no excuses!
RedDoc
Get a grip you jirk! ask norwich if they would fear facing us again after we throttled them by 5. Its the FA cup, things like this happen regularly, can't you just say well played oldham? you deserved it today?
Ian the red
27 Jan 2013 17:18:16
Don't anyone dare tell me that Sterling is any good, one of the worst players I've ever seen. Shirks challenges, doesn't know what to do with the ball and can't shoot for toffee. Can't believe he's still on the pitch.
27 Jan 2013 17:49:48
An 18 year old player has had a bad few weeks at one of the highest levels of club football?
Terrible. Tear up his contract. Release him on free transfer. And then maybe send someone around to break his legs.
All Sterling's doing is demonstrating why I think youngsters need to be eased in.
- Something Red -
27 Jan 2013 17:17:19
Our best chance of a trophy. Thanks for not taking it seriously Brendan.
27 Jan 2013 17:16:21
only an person would of sent that same 11 out after half time, stupid
27 Jan 2013 17:16:13
how crap are we arrogant, sterling having a mare, jo allen, what is the point of him on the pitch, can't blame coetes or goal keeper, they don't play regular, all round rubbish, deserve all we get, out of FA Cup
I don't care if the goalkeeper plays regular football or not, holding the ball should be basic. How can you be a goalkeeper if you can't catch?
Ashy
27 Jan 2013 17:16:10
What I have learned today: sterling and Coates should be demoted to reserves. Take Gerrard out of our midfield and we don't have one.
Emabarassing so far
27 Jan 2013 17:14:35
What a disgracefull performance so far.hang your heads in shame
Harry Oldbury
27 Jan 2013 17:14:20
Coates a big talent ! Sooner he is gone the better !
Take Allen along too...
27 Jan 2013 17:13:52
How are we this useless, totally disgusted with this performance just when I thought we had turned a corner.
Joe Allen just isn't good enough.. Sterling should be sent back tothe reserves for a while, Sturridge had a hard tackle in the first half & hasn't been interested, Boreini is poor at best...
27 Jan 2013 17:41:33
Well at least you're happy.
- Something Red -
27 Jan 2013 17:13:44
If this goes to 4-1 I won't be leaving my house for a while.
27 Jan 2013 17:12:54
Oh dear. What are the chances of 4 new defenders and a goalkeeper before the end of the transfer window?
It's not there fault its the herendous Allan... Needs to be sold asap
27 Jan 2013 17:11:01
3-1 against Oldham is unacceptable. Them players don't deserve to be wearing that jersey. Either put in more effort or get out.
27 Jan 2013 17:10:59
you all are hypocrites slating jones?reina has made countless errors this year, that have cost us goals but he gets a free pass.do you know how hard it is for jones as a second choice keeper to put in good performances everytime he plays?at least we can still count his blunders compared to reina..
27 Jan 2013 17:28:00
Well the other side of that is that if Reina can be criticised and people can say he shouldn't be playing etc. etc. then Jones can't be immune to criticism, can he?
And Reina hasn't dropped a clanger like that since the Arsenal game anyway.
- Something Red -
Hearts at home?
27 Jan 2013 17:10:37
Ok you've done we'll of late Brendan.But ffs When will You EVER start the Correct side? Coates ffs awful last few times.Positionally v.Poor.You NEED Steel-THESE games! We're being outmuscled.Obvious a Dickov side would play this way! you NEVER changed it! Get Sterling.Coates off! Carra, Stevie on! Get Borini Wide! As say vast improvements but wrong side v Villa, Stoke, Mancs and changed too late! Has to Stop!
I think he played the correct side for that 5-0 win over norwich
derryred
27 Jan 2013 17:10:26
Ince, Mirin and Coutinho deals to be completed by wednesday and Ince doesn't fancy moving to Reading according to his dad
27 Jan 2013 17:10:00
Can't believe what I'm watching.
Losing 3-1 to Oldham Athletic.
Absolutely disgraceful.
27 Jan 2013 17:09:19
stupid BR stupid selection. f***ing style of football.
Looks like Liverpool under 19 playing a rugby team. they are full of enargy and we like don't know what to do.
27 Jan 2013 17:09:10
WTF are we doing . We need someone to get hold of the ball .
27 Jan 2013 17:08:12
3-1
goodbye reds
blue moon
27 Jan 2013 17:07:45
& before everyone starts on borini, get him a chance, back from a long layoff & needs confidence.
He is a very intelligent player.
Jimbob
27 Jan 2013 17:27:03
Hello Mr.Borini..what you doing here...
Are you not playing??
1) He's a sick note
2) He couldn't finish his dinner before he got injured.
Get shut in June please Bren.
27 Jan 2013 17:06:27
Well that should've been an equaliser. Great ball out from Hendo. He's really stepping up in the last few weeks.
- Something Red -
27 Jan 2013 17:06:00
why is jones playing he has had a cortisone injection in his shoulder
27 Jan 2013 17:05:56
How can anyone say that Brad Jones is capable of being our number 1, he has been awful today tow fumbles one of which cost us a goal, joe Allen lazy and has no fight and Coates should be sold!!
27 Jan 2013 17:04:27
Makes me laugh on here how reactive posters r, Coates has looked suspect every time I've seen him in an Lfc shirt and he has no pace, not just today. That's why BR wants rid & that's why carra generally gets the nod. It's prob a shop window appearance like what cole's was.
Jimbob
As a 'shop window' appearance it's not really worked, has it?
27 Jan 2013 17:02:04
We need to buy another keeper!
27 Jan 2013 17:01:47
As much as I admire BR he will have to be the first to admit he's got the team selection wrong today. The team looks disjointed the defending is horrendous, you can tell they haven't played regular together. Wisdom and Robinson have tried but are not at the races, Coates is having a nightmare and his confidence is shot.
Both Allen and Henderson are none existent in midfield, shocking.
Sterling is lucky to still be on the field. And please don't get me started on Jones.
Come on BR we are better than this. Take Allen off for Lucas take Sterling off for Gerrard and get Carra on for Coates straight from the off or we can kiss goodbye this match.
Curled1
27 Jan 2013 17:01:44
Why is it their trying to get rid if Coates?
Oh! Ya!
Lyndon
27 Jan 2013 17:00:27
We really need a new keeper! Jones is shocking he has spilled the ball twice and one of them has cost us. Sign up Begovic from stoke.
27 Jan 2013 17:00:25
Coates may be a decent player in a different country, but he's definitely not suited to English football!
27 Jan 2013 16:59:58
Somebody needs to tell borini the game started 45 mins ago. Headless chicken!
27 Jan 2013 16:58:43
Take Coates off put carra on, sterling very poor should of scored put downing on he plays good against small teams, why can't we complete a simple pass its so annoying wen they lose the ball come you reds.
Lfc fan from cardiff
27 Jan 2013 16:58:35
Exciting game, great to watch! Can't believe the ref played on after Sturridge was battered, absolutely fuming!
27 Jan 2013 16:58:28
Although jones has performed well for us when called upon and apparently he's kept 7 clean sheets which is great, but I am never confident when he is in goal. He cannot be a temporary replacement for reina if he decides to leave this window. We need a top class keeper if we want to be competing for top 4.
27 Jan 2013 16:58:20
Borini is crap! He does sod all!!
27 Jan 2013 16:58:00
Brad Jones what a donkey. Coates looks awful. Carragher on for Coates anyone and can we have a strong tackler in midfield to get a hold of the ball. No excuses if we go out to Oldham. They've lost the last four home games. Come on the red men.
Albert
27 Jan 2013 16:56:15
Still think we'll win but why do we have to do everything the hard way!?!
Alan Partridge
27 Jan 2013 16:56:15
Tom Ince has been pictured at the game today. Make of this what you will.
Bridgy07
He's there watching a great side .... playing the one he's apparently joining.
27 Jan 2013 16:56:03
Tom ince is at the match today, it could mean nothing as I think he is a lfc fan but might be something...wouldnt be surprised if Coates left tomorrow as he (as well as jones) has been atrocious today.
And Robinson with them, simply not good enough
27 Jan 2013 16:55:38
its typical Liverpool...after a good run, they mess it up with a freak performance...
27 Jan 2013 16:55:20
Don't know why anyone's hammering borini, considering we're all watching the same match I thought I would have heard more about his intensity, how well he's closing down, some of the good runs he's made, not only creating space but chances.
Coates on the otherhand has been atrocious.. how the hell is he getting beaten to all the air balls by a lad that's at least a good 2/3 inches shorter than him?
Brad Jones has also been poor, perhaps those suggesting he replaces Reina, think again. 2 poor spills on his part.
Sterling sitting on a yellow is dangerous, in my opinion i'd bring Lucas on to sure up the midfield in his place.
SideShowBob
Borini has been useless today.
27 Jan 2013 16:55:00
I was born in Oldham lived there for 19 years but always a Liverpool fan, Gutted that we are losing but take comfort in the fact its my home town team.
UCCM
27 Jan 2013 16:53:53
Jones lets us down twice today too often he's fumbled the ball we would have gone in 1-1 if it wasn't for that silly mistake.
27 Jan 2013 16:53:53
Hmmm. Keepers do drop clangers but at this level, that's pretty much unforgivable.
A real test of character now
ad
27 Jan 2013 16:53:45
Oldham disgusting, presumably they're all Pulis worshippers. We need to get a grip in midfield and keep the ball.
ND
27 Jan 2013 16:52:25
brendan needs to change it back to 433
bring lucas asap..the ball drops in the hole everytime
we have no protection
and I think only then we can score more goals...
id take borini off for lucas
27 Jan 2013 16:52:21
Coates needs to get in the weights room. For a guy who's 6'5'' he's made from nothing. No strength at all.
- Something Red -
27 Jan 2013 16:51:25
Don't you just love the unbiased commentary by ITV. They are praying for us to get beaten.
FT
Its not just itv its every1 against anyone!! haha
27 Jan 2013 16:51:08
someone asked earlier why do we need a new keeper when we have Jones? That is why, he is too nervy and this isn't the first time he has messed up. He doesn't get punished too often but he makes a lot of mistakes in my opinion.
The Coon
27 Jan 2013 16:51:07
Robinson is having a mare, where the hell was he for that goal? We've been awful today.
27 Jan 2013 16:50:58
Also example of why jones is not good enough. Dodger keeper
Redphil
27 Jan 2013 16:50:48
Jones playing well, whichever Ed has been claiming he's better than Reina I hope you're watching
27 Jan 2013 16:50:33
Still think Jones is good enough to replace Reina ...
I don't!!
BigD
27 Jan 2013 16:48:23
I commend BR for playing an attacking formation today, but it's not working and we're too open in midfield. Someone needs to get control of the ball and keep hold of it.
Raoul
27 Jan 2013 16:48:16
Have to admit that Rodgers is right Coates is not good enough.
Jack the Groove
Why play Coatss if he is not good enough???
Rogers is fool
27 Jan 2013 16:46:10
Have to admit I was a big fan of joe Allen in the beginning but I have to be honest I now think he is totally useless, he is being overrun by the Oldham midfield.
27 Jan 2013 16:45:58
If we get 8 million for Coates then take it without smirking to much. Liability.
Redphil
27 Jan 2013 16:44:54
Considering the players we have in attack we've been terrible going forward.
27 Jan 2013 16:43:50
Once again Sterling is an absolute bag of sh**e, if this lad can't even get past an Oldham defence then I'm afraid there's no hope for him. He might be ok in a few years but right now he shouldn't be any where near our first team.
27 Jan 2013 16:38:26
Wow! Coates is horrible. I watched him play for Uruguay and was impressed. Seems to have lost his positional sense
27 Jan 2013 16:38:17
Tom Ince in the crowd watching us!
Leedsredmatt
Well if he is he'll be signing for Reading after watching this! Lol
On the other hand, he now knows he'd walk straight into the 1st 11
27 Jan 2013 16:38:01
Hope Brendan sees copy of Leeds game.(Obviosly our Attentions on Oldham) But VERY obvious, Spurs played a defensive line virtually on halfway line.2 Arc'ed runs (nearly 3) by McCormack running over to ball over top, won game.Potential Spurs Achillies?
27 Jan 2013 16:37:57
I know he is only young still but coates seems to be struggling today .
YNWA
Jamesy
27 Jan 2013 16:29:24
Bit concerned about our defence today, it looks very weak. Also I'd definitely take Sterling off at half time, its only a matter of time before he's sent off.
27 Jan 2013 16:28:12
BR is god...............
If he were here i'd kiss his feet for making Suarez Captain, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, i'm so so so happy . Tears in my eyes.
LFC till i'm old and grey.
Ciah
Problem with that is he speak little english. Its like saying ronaldo should be the captain of madrid... he's the best player on the pitch but he is no leader.
27 Jan 2013 16:27:24
id be bringing sterling off for shelvey before he gets sent off and pushing saurez up further
jaydee ynwa
I, d bring on stevie, take off sterling and push suarez forward and replace coates with carrager we could lose this otherwise
27 Jan 2013 16:22:21
Team looking little unbalanced. .time to drop borini nd bring shelvey
Harry Oldbury
27 Jan 2013 16:20:07
Just heard Ince is at the oldham game? Is this true or just pure bull like always? {Ed002's Note - Has he got a transponder on so we can track him?}
27 Jan 2013 16:17:04
Hope the selection doesn't back fire, we had to put Robinson in due to injuries so I wouldn't have changed the centre backs.
27 Jan 2013 16:16:27
anyone wondering why we're 1-0 down. Robinson borini allen coates there's your answer.
27 Jan 2013 16:15:49
I can see why BR doesn't rate Coates
27 Jan 2013 16:15:39
Get Coates off the pitch he's an accident waiting to happen. He's already cost us a goal and now he's standing on the ball instead of kicking it. All these fans on here who think he's good know nothing about football what so ever. I don't care if he scores 3 he's he is awful
27 Jan 2013 16:08:12
That's why Coates needs to be sold total rubbish and poor defending!!
27 Jan 2013 16:07:28
I'm no brain surgeon but am I the only one who thinks its ridiculous playing 4 forwards and 2 midfield players away from home against a lower leauge side. Why isn't shelvey playing instead of one of front 4. Ridiculous.
Jkjk23
27 Jan 2013 15:53:18
Stand up and be counted today boys.No adding to shocks!Another 90 minute performance.Give them NO encouragement! Lets make ammends for loss in Final last year
27 Jan 2013 15:47:37
Good old diouf ripped the spuds apart today
27 Jan 2013 16:05:54
Yeah because that wasn't a foul on Coates. Didn't realise you can lead with elbows into heads.
Benny baller
It wasn't a foul, and coates doesn't look like he fancies it at all
27 Jan 2013 16:04:58
Oldham 1 up ! Getting hillier in the first few mins, come on lads.
Kobi
27 Jan 2013 16:03:37
With Arsenal game in three days..would not it be better to give Suarez a rest. Suso could have started the game.
Shail.
27 Jan 2013 15:58:26
Hi Ed's
With Coutinho requiring a work permit do you think we will receive one first time or do you think it will go to an appeal hearing? And if so what sort of arguement could we use? {Ed002's Note - I have done this whole WP issue to death now.}
27 Jan 2013 15:57:56
Reading the reports on tv about the way Dempsey is playing today. Spurs fans complaining about paying 6 million. Potentially dodged a bullit there. Mind you the way I heard it at the time was that Spurs paid 4 million and because the way we tried to get him early in the transfer window, Fulham wanted 6 million from us and we told them where to go.
I do like the blend of youth and experience we have in the squad at the moment. It's looking good for the future.
Suarez will only be sold if he wants to go and if he does want to go he can go with my blessing as we will be getting a fortune for him.
Gazza
27 Jan 2013 15:53:18
Stand up and be counted today boys.No adding to shocks!Another 90 minute performance.Give them NO encouragement! Lets make ammends for loss in Final last year
27 Jan 2013 15:47:37
Good old diouf ripped the spuds apart today
27 Jan 2013 15:45:28
ed, How long does it take to obtain a work permit or find out if Coutinho will get one? cheers {Ed052's Note - days}
27 Jan 2013 15:35:30
Suarez to captain the side today can't wait to the game hopefully we will get a win.
Shanio1
27 Jan 2013 15:33:16
A very attack minded line up but the midfield looks a bit light in numbers and physique.
Don't want to sound pessimistic but hope we don't get over run in midfield.
redmersey {Ed052's Note - We wont. Hendo is in there, and Wisdom, Skrtel and Robbo are all tough enough. Remember Suarez is as tough as they come too}
27 Jan 2013 15:20:22
SUAREZ to captain the reds. I just love this guy. can't get enough!
YNWA
27 Jan 2013 15:19:32
What formation are we playing today?
4231 with Suarez as the no. 10
Looks like 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 with suarez as the furthest forward midfielder
27 Jan 2013 15:13:18
Suarez to captain the team today. Front 3 The new S.B.S.
P.S. The Spuds are 2.0 down.
Warr68
27 Jan 2013 15:11:35
Ed(s)
Coutinho certainly falls under the category of a potential future star when it comes to applying for a work permit so hopefully there shouldn't be much of a problem in getting one. FSG wouldn't have taken a gamble of this magnitude without having enquired about the possibility.
My question is, how long do you think it takes to process one and him being able to be selected for a matchday squad?
Cheers
RedSox69 {Ed052's Note - He wont be ready for Arsenal, City he would be avaliable, but probably wont be picked, pehaps the bench}
27 Jan 2013 15:10:03
ed052, can you please tell me is Gulacsi rated in the academy/reserves?
Cheers
VGRed {Ed052's Note - Not hugely highly}
So he is a no go to replace Reina, is he?
VGRed
27 Jan 2013 15:06:08
Who needs a new keeper when we have brad jones - he has been outstanding {Ed052's Note - thats what I think}
Who needs a new keeper when we sill have Reina. Do not write him off yet!
Red Lee
27 Jan 2013 16:35:24
Jones has been shaky so far today, and tbh, he's like that more often than not. He seems too meek in his whole demeanour to be a top class keeper.
There's a reason that Reina came straight back into the team and soon as he was fit last time and will so again once he shakes of his thigh injury.
- Something Red -
27 Jan 2013 16:50:09
Next time I'll keep my mouth shut. :(
- Something Red -
I'm afraid Jones has just sealed the argument. Awful
27 Jan 2013 15:05:25
Luis is captain fairplay
RB
Clever move from Brendan.
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 15:03:15
Liverpool: Jones, Wisdom, Robinson, Coates, Skrtel, Allen, Henderson, Sterling, Borini, Sturridge, Suarez. Subs: Gulasci, Carragher, Shelvey, Lucas, Downing, Gerrard, Suso YNWA Simonpw
27 Jan 2013 14:54:09
Notice quite few posters saying to give Coutinho time.
At last were learning to be a bit more patient.
I think the vastly superior pitches in the premier will benefit a small skilfull player like Coutinho compared to the mostly awful pitches in Italy, especially Anfield which is like a bowling green.
Can't wait to see him in Red, would also love him to get the no 10 shirt.
kidmillions
Could not agree more kidmillions sometimes takes time to settle took Beardsley half a season when he first came & Ray Kennedy & Terry McDermott were in & out for 2/3 years before becoming 2 of our best players ever, Zidane was the best player in the world when the real fans were booing him in his first few months at the bernabeu that season finished with him scoring in the champions league final.....
Paisley's genius
27 Jan 2013 14:47:59
Liverpool will not sign any more players until someone is sold. The budget has been spent and with Coutinho costing more than we would have liked and Blackpool being their normal selves we now have to sell to buy Ince. Expect Coates to leave but I don't think he will be sold in time to purchase Ince, its if the owners are prepared to pay up front and wait for Coates to be sold to recoup the money.MR.
Amen to that mate.
It must be pretty satisfying to know all the financial business of FSG and their budget for LFC.
I assume you are well and truly ITK.
27 Jan 2013 14:47:38
Coutinho in at no 10 shirt,
Joe Cole out of no 10 shirt
I'm drinking to that one today
Thank you FSG.
27 Jan 2013 14:44:17
What was so good about signing Sturridge, was that he has a point to prove to a lot of people, including himself, and he finally has the right platform to do it. He needs us as much as we need him. I am hoping it is the exact same situation with Coutinho. I know next to nothing about him, apart from he is a bit miffed at not playing enough. Hopefully that will give him that extra bit of hunger and desire that amazingly and sadly seems to be lost in the game these days. Lets hope he is a little firecracker.
Nick
He's off to a better start than Rush was. Lets hope he becomes a similar legend.
27 Jan 2013 14:44:01
Nice deal to go through, the only issue is offsetting Liverpools sell on fee. Reina will stay till at least the summer when he will look to negotiate a long term deal either here or in Spain, one more player to come in before end of the month( squad player nothing put of the ordinary)
27 Jan 2013 14:42:21
Hi eds, Do you think coutinho will have signed in time for the arsenal game? {Ed052's Note - no}
27 jan 2013 14:41:59
hi eds thx for great job i was wondering who do you think well go for in summer and who may leave scouse for ever felix {Ed052's Note - Hia. Its a long way off the summer, but I would say a CB, CM (a strong one) and one other marquee signing. Perhaps Inan will come in. Outs, probably a few youngsters, Carroll, Pacheco, Spearing, Reina and maybe Skrtel}
Ed052, do you mean a diame type player for cm? Is that what you mean by strong?
Thanks {Ed052's Note - A big player like Wisdom perhaps - thats more opinion that what I expect tho - the summer is too far away to say who will sign}
27 Jan 2013 14:38:48
Hi fellow reds,
I'm watching the Leeds v Tottenham game on tv, parker clearly fouled el hadji diouf and the commentator said 'I think that's an accident, but I also think diouf was looking for the accident' implying diouf deliberately got the foul off Parker when he didn't even have the ball and was a clear foul.
Don't get me wrong I don't like diouf one bit but it just proves that any player with a reputation gets picked on by the commentators. It happens every time Suarez plays they try to get him in trouble and don't point the amazing skill and work rate he has!!
Perth Red {Ed052's Note - The thing is, the best players looked to get fouled so that they win free kicks}
Come on, we all did the same with Ronaldo. It's only because everyone is jealous of the ability that these players have. You only need one bad incident to get you in everyone's bad books. Suarez had the hand ball against Ghana, Ronaldo was a diver to begin with. But these reputations stay with the players.
Piledriver
Yeah you are right but it just looked as if Parker used his arm to just shove him out the way so he couldn't help out the guy that was on the ball. But you are right he may have just fool the ref aswell had me.
Perth Red
27 Jan 2013 14:38:09
Apparently after the potential signing of Coutinho, LFC players have staged a mini protest, and indoor five-a-side games will no longer be tolerated as part of training...
BigBadBen ;)
Haha top quality! This is what the banter should be used for!:-)
RedSpud
Don't get it? {Ed052's Note - He is Brazilian. He is boss at 5 a side, the other players dont want to be embarrassed...}
Go check Ed052's vid....
BigBadBen {Ed052's Note - not my vid, Ed019 - he is the genius}
Bring it on Coutinho, Last week I nutmegged a mermaid.
Luis Suarez {Ed052's Note - LMFAO}
Ha ha! Boss!nutmegged a mermaid! Great wit!
Paisley's genius
27 Jan 2013 14:32:43
Cheers for the video Ed, this kid looks like he could be a nightmare to play against as he matures. Looks like he has a decent strike too. Could be a top-drawer signing, fingers crossed. {Ed052's Note - You've found the video then? Good, some people dont seem to be able to get to it}
Yeah, looks good. I know it's a handful of YouTube clips but if the kid can do that week-in-week-out he'll cause havoc with most Prem Teams backline.
27 Jan 2013 14:29:12
We have got so much to look forward to, as Liverpool fans:
A front 3 of Yesil, Suso and Sterling.
Then we will have Coutinho, Henderson and Allen in the middle.
A defense of Kelly, Wisdom, Flanagan, and Robinson.
If we could get a decent young Goalkeeper, that could be a good Champions League side in the future.
Piledriver
Flanagan hasn't the quality to be a top drawer right back never mind Centre back {Ed052's Note - Flanno does have the quality to be a RB mate, bit harsh}
I wasn't putting the back line in any order. Kelly and Wisdom would be my choices at centre backs. Sorry if I didn't make it clear enough.
Piledriver
The other rb McSomethingIcan'tspell, looks more promising than Flanagan imo.
27 Jan 2013 14:24:06
A question to any eds that love Liverpool. Do you think Rodgers will be a long term Shankly figure for Liverpool. Do you think he has what it takes to win the premiereship? How long to you realistically think it will take Liverpool to win the premiereship? Not an easy question to answet but I'd be interested in your thoughts.
RedAce {Ed052's Note - When Rodgers first came, I was both confident that he would bring success and would be here for a long time. I am now sure of both those things, 110%. He will be here for as long as he wants to be}
27 Jan 2013 14:06:04
ed can't see that video either type in wat ed19 said says it don't exsist
mike {Ed052's Note - try this, and please say if you can see it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX4H0mOFJgY
Cheers}
It doesn't seem to be coming up mate
Nope not found ed :(
Gezza1982 {Ed052's Note - It worked for me. That shouldn't be happening.}
Works for me perfectly.
BevansBaws {Ed052's Note - Good}
The link for the video works fine, tested it with (chrome/IE9) you might need adobe flash player installed m8.
27 Jan 2013 14:04:53
Hi Eds,
Love the site. I'd love to know your opinion on our transfer dealings. Before I thought we were 'lightweights' but now we seem to be a lot tougher which in my opinion is great. These comments of 'why don't we just pay 2 million more and sign him' are irritating me though. Its 2 MILLION!! That is a lot of money!!
On another note...why is it some people seem to think that those players that aren't playing i.e. Coates and Pacheco are, are wonderful players? Clearly if they were even remotely good enough I think its obvious that B.R. would play them more!! For me, Coates is clearly far too slow. Seems suited to Italy to me.
IncaMan
Massive mistake if we let Coates go, and keep Skrtel, Coates is the future, Skrtel is average and over the years has cost us more points than any other centre half that I can remember - well since Torben Piechnik at least, although he was a 100% lad.
People are saying Coates is slow - I reckon Skrtel would have trouble in a sprint against Razor Ruddock, and I'm talking running not drinking pints.
John B
If we were that desprit to sign ince we would have paid that extra £2 mil, he'll be a good addition to our squad but we are not paying over the adds like we did in the past.
Ps: £2 mil is a lot of money if it is spent well MUCHU spring to mind.
27 Jan 2013 13:50:56
Mirror linking us with benteke he is a cracking striker any truth in this eds or is it just bs.
Benteke himself has said he only moved to Villa as a stepping stone to a bigger club and only really wants a move to Arsenal.
27 Jan 2013 13:35:32
27 Jan 2013 12:39:49
So eds have we agreed fees for coutiniho but we are still trying to get a work permit and agree personal fees?
Ryan the red {Ed019's Note - Work Permit}
_________________________________________________
Does this mean Coutinho has agreed personal terms ed?
Thanks {Ed052's Note - It has been suggested he has, yes}
27 Jan 2013 13:33:45
Hy Eds.
I have been told by a strong source that Reina suarez and skrtel will leave in the summer. And the money we get from these sales will be reinvested to bring butland williams and sanchez as their replacement. And also lfc looking to bring Eriksen and 1 left back.
Any information you have about this.
I hope all this will be just a rumour. Bcs I dnt want to lose any of these lads.
Good luck to gerard and co. For tnight game.
Thanx. {Ed052's Note - I dont personally think Suarez will go, although there are huge amounts of of interest in him. I wouldn't be too shocked or bothered if either Skrtel or Reina leave. Skrtel was good last year, but just isn't settling into the new system. I doubt Eriksen will sign}
I thought Skrtel has been good this season ed? Why is it you think he'll depart?
Blaz {Ed052's Note - He hasn't been bad, but no where near as good as he was last season. I say he might go, because of what Ed002 said - perhaps try the search function. It was to do with him talking about interest in Italy and how he is unhappy at where the club is}
Rodgers brought Carra back as he thought the players in defence were not vocal enough.
So there's the clue?
We a need a vocal player who's experienced and a good organiser but obviously younger than Carra.
Ashley Williams? maybe.
kidmillions
Ed052 Skrtel has just signed a new contract in the summer! LFC are in a lot better state now than last season or when he signed a new contract! So if what you say about him being unhappy at where LFC are at the moment why did he sign? {Ed052's Note - As he decided not to move. I think it might be possible he will go, but the summer is so far off, a lot depends on where we finish, who plays well etc}
27 Jan 2013 13:29:36
Reina's exit looks likely in the summer, I hink he would admit that his form hasn't been that of previous years.
Brendan Rodgers likes goalkeepers like Reina with good distribution who do you see ideal? {Ed052's Note - any number of very good German keepers should and will be looked at I am sure}
27 Jan 2013 13:26:16
Eds is it true we might buy Ashley Williams if Coates goes?
Rocky red {Ed052's Note - I guess it could be one possibility, but I would think he would want first team football, so more likely is Agger or Skrtel left. A younger player will probably replace Coates, if and when he leaves. Perhaps a more experienced CB if and when Skrtel leaves in the summer}
Skrtle is a decent player for Liverpool. It looks like some of the eds are as bad as us in starting silly rumours. Lol!
Red Lee {Ed052's Note - I think it is possible that Skrtel will leave in the summer, and as you say, he is decent this year, but is that good enough for where we are aiming?}
The same could be said for the majority of the team.
Suarez - excellent season
Sterling - decent season
Downing - mixed season (recently ok)
Gerrard - mixed season
Allen - mixed season
Lucas - ok on return from injury
Henderson - mixed season
Agger - good season
Skrtle - decent season
Johnson - decent season
Enrique - mixed season
Obviously this is my opinion, having watched almost every match this season. I think the whole team would agree that there is room for improvment throughout the team.
Ed I understand your point in saying that we need more quality to get to where we are aiming. But The majority of our team are only decent players. Does that mean we will sell them all? No.
There aren't many premier league players better than Skrtle in his position. Coates is a good defender and he has been nowhere near the first team due to the solid partnership between Skrtle and Agger. If anything we need to strengthen in other areas before we look at our defence.
Red Lee {Ed052's Note - A cause not, but our first 11 have to be superb most of the season for us to achieve. Skrtel has been one of a few players letting us down}
Last question Ed. is it of your opinion that Skrtle will leave or are you 'in the know' as they say?
Cheers ed
Red Lee {Ed052's Note - A bit of both. Ed002 mentioned that Skrtel wasn't too happy in the summer, and there was interest from Italy. Therefore, coupled with bad performances, in a defence which ultimately could be our week point now, I think he and Reina could leave and free up some cash}
27 Jan 2013 13:22:55
Edds- Just after some info on cotinho, is he any good. Don't know much about the player except what I've seen on YouTube which isn't the best source. How do you rate him?
Bilverstone
YNWA
JFT96 {Ed052's Note - I have said a lot, but this is my little summary of the player before I go and profile him:
He can play out wide or behind the front man. He usually plays on the left, and can cut in or go down the line. However, I would suggest he is better in the CAM position. Suso main position. He has good skills, and can find spectacular balls. Good shot, and good scorer, e.g. 15 a season man. However, he can do a bit too much with the ball, and he also is a bit lightweight. That is why he is not always inthe Inter squad. However, he hasn't really progressed since his Inter move, but his loan showed he has all the attributes. He just needs to play}
27 Jan 2013 13:21:35
hey eds when would you exspect countino to make his debut would arsenal come too soon {Ed052's Note - yes, I doubt he will have signed by them either}
27 Jan 2013 09:17:05
Eds can I have your honest opinions on couthino? Do any of you believe he is a first team player or another squad member? If he signs of course! Great job!
Hardy1892 ynwa {Ed052's Note - he will be a squad player at first but grow, quite quickly I should think, into a first teamer}
27 Jan 2013 13:18:03
Hey Eds and Fellow Fans
Just wondering what peoples opinions are on Carroll and whether you would take him back for next season?
Personally I hope this loan deal at West Ham has a compulsory buy clause if they stay up because if BR doesn't want to keep him (which looks very likely) we will be lucky to see over 10m for him.
Injuries, poor form and inconsistency have plagued him all season and the few hammers fans I know want him of their wage bill already. I personally like the guy and he can't be blamed for a ridiculous price tag but I do hope West Ham have to buy him so we can at least re-coup some of our losses.
LiverBob
Always knew he'd go down as our biggest flop! he really is a terrible footballer!
27 Jan 2013 13:09:50
Liverpools strategy of signing players is so tedius. We clearly was tom ince, so why not just pay the £8 that they want. He is worth £8m, we can loan him backto blackpool till the summer too, to claim back some money. So tedious.
The same sort of tedious that just saved us a bob or two on Coutinho?....
BigBadBen {Ed052's Note - The OP, we did that under H and G. Where did that get us?}
27 Jan 2013 13:09:32
Would Liverpool be looking at following FSG's transfer policy of young potential quality when trying to replace Pepe Reina if/when he leaves. {Ed019's Note - We'll see, the summer's a long way off}
I don't think we should be looking at younger keepers. Perhaps an experienced goalkeeper aged from 25-28 as goalkeepers can stay active into their late 30s
27 Jan 2013 13:09:05
Hello eds,
Would Inter Milan perhaps cancel the Coutinho deal if they cannot sign Paulinho or any other player before deadline day?
Thanks!
YNWA {Ed019's Note - They need the money, so I'd say no}
27 Jan 2013 13:05:49
I think it's a pity if Coates leaves coz I think he's one of the best young CBs around the world, I think it's a big loss IMO
I know he's young but I don't get the hype over Coates. he's slow, gives the ball away a lot and panics when players run at him.
I honestly think if he hadn't scored 'that goal' against QPR last season that many wouldn't rate him. Seems a nice lad and I'd wish him luck wherever he is or wherever he goes.
Just my opinion.
I think the Oldham match has settled this one....
27 Jan 2013 12:50:08
I am so looking forward to have this transfer window close.
I couldn't be happier with the way things are moving along, will be nice to see what way we shape up next season.
Most people didn't expect much this season because new manager new team but this season is going to plan.good times ahead for us reds slim chance at 4th good players coming in and next season will be a big one even bigger if we get champions league the team should get even better. It is always going to take time if we keep going like this I feel we will be back on top in 4-5 years given we don't have the money to spend like the likes of city utd and Chelsea.
Hears to the future YNWA
Hammbone
27 Jan 2013 12:49:13
An attacking midfield 3 of Sterling Suso and Coutinho aren't bad is it. {Ed019's Note - For the future ofc}
No physical presence.
27 Jan 2013 12:39:49
So eds have we agreed fees for coutiniho but we are still trying to get a work permit and agree personal fees?
Ryan the red {Ed019's Note - Work Permit}
27 Jan 2013 12:39:37
Philippe-Coutinho has enormous potential, let's show the lad some support. {Ed019's Note - Check out my video on Coutinho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX4H0mOFJg
Thanks all}
Says video does not exist {Ed052's Note - It should be up there, can anybody else not see it?}
I'm afraid the same thing happened when I tried as well.
Red Owl
No luck ed.
Square tomato {Ed052's Note - Does this link work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX4H0mOFJgY
I think the first link needs the Y on it. }
27 Jan 2013 12:37:38
Don't know if he's in the squad but hope Yesil gets a few minutes today :) good luck lads. HullRED
27 Jan 2013 12:35:50
hi eds and Macca great site and thanks for all your effort and info..us true reds really appreciate it. anyway really pleased with rodgers with great acquisition in sturridge, gives us more pace and goals up front. touch wood now coutinho gets done he would I think light up the kop with his brazilian flair. what I want to eds I see you still think ince will be done but would you expect another addition before the deadline after ince if we get him or do you think that would be the lot? have we to get rid of players first to add players if you know what i'm saying {Ed019's Note - I think only if players leave}
27 Jan 2013 11:58:15
Hi Eds was just wondering wouldn't the signing of Coutinho and Ince mean curtains for downing/suso?
Maybe not suso as he's still young and a loan might do him good but the arrival of this 2 would surely mean downing is off wouldn't it? {Ed019's Note - I would expect Suso to possibly go out on loan & Downing to stay}
27 Jan 2013 12:01:15
moring eds and reds.eds keep up the great work you all put in this is a top site cheer's EDS walk on.just a quick come on the boys lets have the win today, I can't wait for are game to start love the FA cup.hoping for a big win from are red men today are team is on the up.IN LFC, IN RODGER'S, AND IN FSG, I TRUST.jay essex red for life red till dead.
27 Jan 2013 12:03:50
Cynics are cyanide for football club supporters. They're too afraid of getting let down to become excited at anything. Perhaps they're realists to a degree; however, if believing Liverpool's ability to win a match until the final whistle blows is naive or childish, then let's be both of those things while supporting this club for the remainder of the season as Liverpool push for fourth and silverware.
- Logic
27 Jan 2013 12:01:17
It was a bad week for Liverpool with Bradford and Swansea getting to the final as this will mean one less European place in the league positions. We will definitely have to finish top six or win Europa league or FA cup now to qualify.
Lets do all three. Keep our best 11 fit and we are confident of giving anyone a good game.
If we see an increase in the amount of goals we score in the first half if nothing else we will see less nervous second halves and more draws turned into wins.
Start with a good win today and a solid match with at least a draw against the arsenal and we will be doing ok.
I think our fixtures are quite good after the arsenal and city match.
Plenty of points to be had.
27 Jan 2013 11:43:18
Hi Eds,
What do you think the chances are for coutinho being able to get a work permit? He has only played for the Brazil full team once, so how would he get one?
MIGHTYRED {Ed002's Note - This has been done to death.}
Read the posts
27 Jan 2013 11:39:44
Guys please give Countinho time to settle into the Uk and into the pace of the EPL
He will not hit the ground running like Sturridge so do not expect miracles
He will be a slow burner like Henderson
I expect Countinho to take 2 years before we see the best of him
In the meantime we have stay supportive
We don't want a sahin situation on our hands if the club and fans do not help him settle into the city and squad
Also when we do play him - play him in his correct position - no point in trying to blood him as a winger when that is not his preferred position - it will only make him look bad and kill his confidence
Leam Red
Yeah we must not expect coutinho to be a world beater straight away, the lads had little niggling injuries and needs to get up to speed on the physical side of the premiership football, but once he's use to things then we will have one hell of a player on our hands..... I'm really excited for our future .... Come on you redmen
Ack17
BR doesn't used wingers.. 3 free forwards
Attacking fullbacks with holding midfielders to cover.
The old inconsistent winger is no more.
Enrique and especially Johnson are excellent in the opposing half.
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 11:38:04
Guys please give Countinho time to settle into the Uk and into the pace of the EPL
He will not hit the ground running like Sturridge so do not expect miracles
He will be a slow burner like Henderson
I expect Countinho to take 2 years before we see the best of him
In the meantime we have stay supportive
We don't want a sahin situation on our hands if the club and fans do not help him settle into the city and squad
Also when we do play him - play him in his correct position - no point in trying to blood him as a winger when that is not his preferred position - it will only make him look bad and kill his confidence
Leam Red
27 Jan 2013 11:32:23
To Tom1975 good call with Pablo aimar comparison just what I was thinking, believe Rafa saw him in that role for inter.....
Paisley's genius
Paisley s genius
i was watching youtubes of both of them earlier
they play a very similar game, short passing dribbling and shooting abilty
lets hope coutinho turns out to be as good or maybe better than aimar
tom1975
Thanks for the reply tom1975 remember Aimar tearing us to shreds in the chanpions league a few years ago wish we had signed him when rafa first came, enjoy the game today friend keep well keep red y.n.w.a
Paisley's genius
27 Jan 2013 11:24:36
lfc looking at benteke according to sky. anyone know about this?
27 Jan 2013 10:41:13
I really don't know why we try & deal with Blackpool we are having the same problems as we did with Charlie Adam. To think they av had our players on loan there like shelvey.
I would walk away from the ince deal. I certainly wouldn't loan suso as part of any deal or loan ince back to them for the rest of the season.
Blackpool are playing hardball, is ince worth it? is he worth same as a Brazilian international who has played in seria A?
Jimbob
What are they supposed to do? Give him up cheap? They want to get as much for him as they can, can't really blame them. Liverpool are trying not to get their pants pulled down again, Blackpool are just doing the same. As much as I would love being given our targets for peanuts, it's not going to happen, therefore the need for a good negotiator. Hopefully ours are up to scratch.
Nick
To be brutally honest mate, at this moment Ince would help us win more matches than Coutinho. He's a very effective and hard working player.
The Brazilian has more talent and skill, and ultimately will be the better player- but it will take time for that potential to be fully realised.
For what's left of this season, Tom Ince would be the better bet to start games, because he will hit the ground running as Sturridge did, and start banging in goals very quickly.
27 Jan 2013 10:38:02
With Reina seemingly off in the summer who would you want to reace him eds? I think Pantimillion the Man City no. 2 looks a great keeper, 6' 8'' and young.
27 Jan 2013 12:48:19
if he does go we should look no further than begovic, Mignolet or vorm, proven in the premiership.
Or Handanovic at Inter. RedRobbo
27 jan 2013 10:15:48
if we win a trophy not only the players and coaching staff should climb the stairs for a medal but also ian ayre! the kopite has been in devaststing form in the transfer market and has done more for the club than anyone.its a lot to warrent a statue at the ground or have gates erected in your honour but i feel ian is not far from at least getting the ian ayre gates or maybe the standard chartered ian ayre statue " he made the windows belter".
take a bow son, he pinched coutinho from inter while barca real utd and spurs circled,
all i need is the ayre that i breath
It's going a bit far now.
Funny how all these people that slated Ian Ayre, are up his a*s now because he negociated a deal for Coutinho.
The same people that slated FSG but are now up their a*ss's because they are probably going to spend 30million in this window
Real fans are behind the club and owners through thick and thin, oh and that includes the manager as well
RD
Perhaps a bit much, Ian.
Nick
27 Jan 2013 12:32:39
Is that you ian
Ian Ayre is still a muppet. We should have walked away from Coutiniho he is to lightweight for the PL.
27 Jan 2013 10:03:31
When it looked like Sahin wouldn't sign posters were going nuts! You felt he was world class, yet we got him and he was ineffectual.
We have signed Coutinho and you are acting like he is the new Messi, why?
Im I missing something we have just spent £11m on what? Was it a position we needed filled? And Coutinho has barely played for Inter and has not been part of their future plans.
So why do so many feel we have pulled off a coup for a major star?
I think we have just wasted £11m which should be a cause of deep regret. I feel sorry for FSG who are pouring millions into transfers that lead nowhere.
Thank you Taggart. Back to the old folks home now please, the nurses are worrying about you.
ND
27 Jan 2013 12:30:12
Sturidge didn't play at all for Chelsea came to us gets 3 on the bounce . It means nothing that he has not played for inter. He went out on loan an done reasonable well he has bags of potential an is going to the best team to bring that out in him we are probably the youngest team in the league an starting to clime up the table now we are for the future. Gud luck today lads
27 Jan 2013 12:33:50
Sturidge didn't play at all for Chelsea came to us gets 3 on the bounce . It means nothing that he has not played for inter. He went out on loan an done reasonable well he has bags of potential an is going to the best team to bring that out in him we are probably the youngest team in the league an starting to clime up the table now we are for the future. Gud luck today lads
If this was posted by a United fan, I think you should worry about the 15 (rising to 18) million you've just spent on a over-hyped championship player who can run quite fast but not much else.
I seem to remember a certain player called Javier Mascherano not getting a game for west ham look how that one turned out.
BRJ
I appreciate your point but that is the gamble the club are willing to take on the first team squad
Just an example we spent £20m on transfers for Borini and Coutinho
Alternative was buy one proven experienced player for £20m and bring one of the kids from the academy
(Combined wages the same as borini and continho)
Gamble is the £20m spent on borini / countinho will turn into £40m if we wanted to sell these 2 in their prime after 3-5 years
With spending £20m - unlikely to recoup any money in a resale and the player could bomb out in lfc - like aqua/ downing etc
Leam Red
Thierry Henry was no superstar in Italy and Wenger took a gamble. Look how that turned out.
Serie A does not suit a lot of players.
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 09:23:42
Can anyone tell me why folk are worried for Suso when Courtinho signs??
Totally different players.
Piddy.
Give Suso another season to find his feet and strengthen up and he will have the ability to emulate players like mata and D.Silva.
FowlerGod.
I'm sure they can both play anywhere in midfield or up front on either side can't wait.
Dmc
Because some peoples lives seem to be incomplete unless they have something unfounded to fret over.
ad
More like some people can't see the bigger picture, I see suso more as a midfielder anyhow, the more likely to take over stevie's role. Coutinho is the missing piece a proper little number 10. He will be ideal in games where teams park the bus at anfield.
Si
Suso will be a star some day no question about that. Going somewhere on loan for the rest of the season where he would play week in week out would do the kid wonders. He's going to be a Liverpool Great
Players very rarely stay with clubs for longer than? whatever nowdays.
If in 5 yrs time Coutinho has become a superstar and Suso as well and a bid of Xamount of fabulous millions came in for one of them? That's how it works in these days.
kidmillions
27 Jan 2013 09:08:44
Have to admit we have an abundance of young talent now at the club.
Not only do we have this talent in the first team squad but also at each level of the youth system. With talents such as Ibe, Mcglaughlin, Sinclair, Sama and Ojo to name a few.
When you consider we have Suso, Sterling, Sturridge, Wisdom, Kelly, Robinson and now Coutinho arriving, we have a lot of quality youth already gaining vital experience for next season.
On top of the above we also have players such as Allen, Henderson, Shelvey, Assiaidi and Borini. These are all gelling into the squad this season alongside the likes of seasoned pros I.e. Gerrard, Skrtle, Agger, Enrique, Johnson, Suarez and Lucas.
The squad is beginning to look very strong for the now and the future, and with a bit of luck who knows we could attain fourth spot this season.
If we did I'm sure the club would be able to provide more funds due to the extra revenue and money the club would make from another stint in the CL.
Future at our club looks very bright and very promising.
Jonesred
I agree the future looks bright, but it is going to be a long wait, in a few years time the more experienced players probably won`t be there and suarez will probably have left too unfortunately.
But I can`t help but feel we will still be a long way short of being champions even in 2 or 3 years time but will have a decent young side
27 Jan 2013 09:07:39
I still think its been an excellent window thus far. Sturridge looks a bargain...he needs to maintain his start though...(if)?we're getting Ince for half what the mancs paid for Zaha and Ince has double goals and assists in the Championship...Coutinho will make the cut his style of play will fit in well with Brendans set up, maybe a move for a keeper or CB depending on the Reina and Coates situation. I think its going to be a good time to be a Red. Astute signings, got the wage bill in order now we just need that lucrative 4th place spot plus hopefuly the new developments on Anfield start soon too. A win away at Arsenal would certainly show our metal for it and also expecting a win today but you never know!
Kosovo Joe
27 Jan 2013 09:02:15
Hi eds,
on the andy carroll situation, is there a clause saying west ham have to pay the carroll transfer fee if they stay up.
many thanks
S.D. {Ed002's Note - Read the posts please.}
27 Jan 2013 08:33:09
Big well done to FSG !! £43.8 million pound spend puts us just behind United and Chelsea this season. They have certainly put their money and their marker down.
Now lets kick on with our young team, full of class hunger and skill and the enthusiasm of children, just like Suarez.
Exciting times ahead for us supporters. Get on the roller coaster ride, because our new RED journey is just about to start !
Have patience with all our kids, encourage them to grow and become world stars... it may take a little while and there will be ups and downs, but they have proven they have the skill, lets support them and help them become our new future.
Personally I think this squad is as good as any in the premiership, they just need time to develop. Full of international players from Brazil, Uruguay, Italy, Spain, world class players like Stevie G and Suarez......what more can a supporter ask for these days ? Top marks so far Brendan, good plan coming together
Tel 1949
What??? £43.8m spend? Your figures are way off the mark and as for us being closer to the big boys, we are far from it and our squad is weaker than before bar sturridge??A long, long way to go, let's not get ahead of ourselves!
Hardy1892 ynwa
Nah lets slate them after one bad game, say they are crap, not fit towear the jersey
jk
tom1975
So they've bought Allen, Borini, Sturridge & Coutinho.......now watch people complain they either haven't spent enough or have wasted money when we could've have used all that money to buy the supposed megastars.
My dear hardy 1892, we have spent the following: Sturridge £12m, Allen £16.7m, Borini £11.7m, Yesil £1.14m, Assaidi £3.5m, Sahin £4.4m, Coutinho £8.5m and hopefully Ince for £6m.
Simple maths adds up to nearly £63 million. We had sales of at least £8 mill for Adam, Kuyt, Aqua etc but ignoring the actual numbers it is patently obvious that we have spent some big money since Rogers arrived.
My figure of £43.8m nett spend is probably a little low in reality
Tel 1949 {Ed002's Note - Certainly the Sturridge and Coutinho figures are incorrect Tel. You also need to understand that there is VAT, FA fees, agent fees, VAT on agent fees, relocation fees, signing on fees etc..}
Not much chance of Hardy getting ahead of himself then...
Ed 002 spot on again. I've really no idea how we calculate TOTAL net spend but whatever the final figure is, its obvious that we have spent some serious cash.
FSG have done a lot better than the cowboys did, that's for sure, so give them some credit, and our thanks !
Tel 1949
27 Jan 2013 12:35:23
Why are people so obsessed with exact figures and fees?! I don't get it. I blame these football manager computer games.
Just support and enjoy the football.
AndyK
27 Jan 2013 08:24:18
Ian Ayre gets a lot of stick on here, maybe rightly, but more likely unfairly. No one on here knows what bargaining tools or instructions that he had with Dempsey or Sig, so it might be unfair to hold him responsible. We got Sturridge for a pretty good price, and it appears that he saved a few million on Coutinho. I know it's not our money, but in the crazy world of football finances, a few million is still a few million.
I have to say, I thought he had blown it, but fair play to him today, he is deserved of some praise.
Nick
I see most of the doom and gloomers are hiding away waiting for the next slip up no doubt, slip ups will happen but these are exiting times for lfc. brenden and the owners deserves credit here with their vision for the future, it would have been easy to buy the so called super stars for a quick short term fix.lfc will push on now in the second half of the season but I really can't see 4th place but you never know. well done brenden and fsg
DEANO
Yep, with the careful approach being taken these days, it can't have been easy to negotiate with inter, in competition with a club prepared to outbid us.
I've had a go at Ayres over the last-minute summer debacle (although to be fair, not having another striker has definitely cost us a few goals, and a few points so far), but you have to give credit where its due.
He's done well with this deal- now its up to BR to develop the lad into the world-beater he looked like becoming.
27 Jan 2013 08:09:29
Morning ed's.
Do you know the timescales of Coutinhos injury and wouldn't this cause problems re:medical?
Have you heard anything of the Marco Rojas rumours? Looks like a decent player, but then again, it is the A league and Heskey looks half decent there!
Thanks eds. {Ed002's Note - He has a minor injury, it'll be fine. I know nothing of Rojas.}
27 Jan 2013 06:18:01
So with Coutinho poised to sign, and hopefully provide us with some 'much needed' creativity, then one must ask, what about Joe Allen, or is that just a case of £15m wasted.
Allen cost a small fortune, and has done very little.
I am sure Allen will not be happy 'to warm the bench' forever.
Allen is quality - just be a bit patient
Po
Agree with po Allen will prove his class will they be slating coutinho if he is not brilliant straightaway? We have got a good team & squad which is steadily gelling bit of patience required here & there that's all keep well keep red.....
Paisley's genius
I think BR just got his sights set on Allen at all costs, and being so new to the club, maybe he didn't think that one through properly.
I think we already have Lucas for the holding role, but he was injured, and maybe BR thinks its a good idea to have backup?
I do sympathise with Allen, because he might struggle to get starts with Lucas fit and Henderson playing well too, but let's not be ungracious to the lad- he came to LFC in good faith, prepared to do his very best for the club, and he is a very good and versatile player to have available in the squad.
Remember we all said lucas was carp till he had a couple of seasons under his belt to get used to the prem and playing for a massive club like ours now look at him he's the first name on the team sheet give joe a bit of time and we will see how good he is
27 Jan 2013 06:16:50
Eds please post on every page,
We all use twitter and this site to find out info, would everyone stop trying to claim exclusives on transfers when you really have no info, I see an ITK on twitter post 'Draxler is the back up to ince' and this site goes crazy.
My point is we all read the same transfer info available so don't try to claim its your exclusive when its a twitter fad, you end up looking stupid
K-Man
Coutinho, Sturridge and one or two more and we've had a super window
We don't "all use twitter". Some people think its a rather sad way to spend your time.
Melbourne CFC
I will never use twitter or even facebook as its a medium to just spout tripe plus I don't think anybody wants to know which Liverpool shirt I am wearing on a particular day. Mmm should I wear the 1989 candy shirt or the or the 1984 daglish shirt today. Ah, I know I will tweet my dilema because obviously the whole world is interestd in my sad, anal, hopeless life.Mmm I think not.
Fred
Some of us don't even know (or WANT to know) what twitter is
Puzzled
Well said Fred
Essex lad
27 Jan 2013 05:50:37
Eds and fans can we expect from cutinho to be our Ronaldiniho or Kaka?
Why do people always have to compare players?
27 Jan 2013 05:01:31
It's nice buying young players for the future but we need to get experience in the side. Sterling Shelvy Suso and others. And it's looking like Ince and Coutinho are nearly done. We need experienced players!
We have experience
reina30
skrtel agger 27/28
johnson 28
suarez 25
lucas 25
gerrard 32
downing 28
enrique 27
you d swear we were fielding a whole team of teens every week
tom1975
Don't forget Carra who is 34 (I think)
27 Jan 2013 02:32:38
Not sure about all the hype about countinho ? he's a skillful young player in the suso mould only a year older. Not sure paying 8m would be the right move when suso is there.
I trust rodgers though so I hope he does well and doesn't hold suso back
13reds
Nothing like Suso.
Same position though
27 Jan 2013 01:54:32
26 Jan 2013 22:45:12
Clouds Clearing Above Anfield....
-------------
A positive post! With more "agree" than "disagree" weight...
What in the world is going on??
Thought it was snowing.
Don't dismiss those clouds too early mate.
27 Jan 2013 10:25:55
To Be Fair... in this post I did try to explain that we still have a way to go... and the clouds are clearing.... not cleared.
As Liverpool Club we have been through a lot of turmoil recently and sometimes past glory can be a heavy pressure on these new generation of players....
so all I am just saying is.....
lets look forward because we now seem to be going in the right direction and should be a little more positive as a club in whole.
27 Jan 2013 00:57:02
Hi eds, was at the game involving Melbourne Victory and the Del Piero led Sydney FC and a great reuslt for the Victory boys winning 3-1. Having been told by the press that there were scouts from Europe at the game to watch Marco Rojas. He didn't dissappoint with 2 goals even though they were deflected. Liverpool and Juventus scouts at the game. Would be great to see the kid in a Reds shirt, has pace and skill without being afraid to take on the bigger and stronger lads. any thought from the eds. to make my day better, reports in Melbourne this morning that the Reds are coming to play the Victory on the 16th July. i'm like a kid in a candy shop, can't wipe the smile on my face. YNWA
I'd be happy to see the little Kiwi pull on a red shirt. Talent is talent, regardless of what league you play in. I remember Harry Kewell coming from Australia when there was no professional competition. Barring a horror run of injuries, we'd have seen a very very good player in Harry. Maybe Rojas can atone for this, on behalf of Oceania...
Harry left Marconi when he was like 17. you can't make that comparison and Rojas is good but Sydney fc is woeful regardless of del piero
27 Jan 2013 00:14:59
Gordon Strachan try's to be The Comic, and fair do he was hilarious.But unintentially! Said Rooney intelligent footballer(perhaps) But Then said he's Also an Intelligent MAN ! Just got off floor laughing.Carlisle nearly as Goodafter manchester united game-Big clubs take Cup seriously! What with Their record/and Taggarts huge disrespect for, over years
Carlisle is the most opinionated person on tv he is the next mother teresa I just turn my tv over every time he appears on tv he is so whiter than white he should be signed up to apear in a daz advert he was one of the peolpe that kept on the case of Suarez to be punished for remarks to evra nothing about evra mentioned and I have not heard him give his any comment on hazzard kicking young lad why because the two of them were white people
27 Jan 2013 00:13:39
I saw it too, I think Paul Ince was hinting at a similar deal to Zaha to be honest, I don't think you can read to much in to it
27 Jan 2013 00:02:27
Been watching some videos of Philippe Coutinho on YouTube looks very talented.. Even though it could be completely out if context still can see his potential... Looks like a young kaka to me but smaller and more agile if you could compare home to anyone eds who would you say he most reminds you of ?
Redman
A more skillful version of Oscar.
Pablo aimar
tom1975
In the mould of a Mesut Ozil type player.
He does look good on YouTube but only uses his right foot. Only one pass on left, never uses left when dribbling.
A samba version of Sterling.
Ha, ha.
Let's see if he is as good as his video.
Beyonce 'lip synced' her presidential innaguration performance, so don't be soo easily 'duped'!.
A move skilful version of Oscar? The Brazilian national team sure don't think so.
Lets see if he's as good as his video???
It's him in the video, so I would say he us.
27 Jan 2013 00:01:16
Genuinely couldn't care less if we sign Ince or not. All of this Blackpool playing hard ball nonsense, I really don't think Ince or Blackpool are worth it, we should cut our ties with them and not deal with them any more. Are we really going to struggle that much without Ince? No direspect to the lad but he really isn't all that.
26 Jan 2013 23:59:00
Well since everybody is praising the owners and the team I like to praise the medical team as they managed to keep both Agger and Stevie free from injuries. They suffered a lot previously and the fact they played in nearly all our league games is a great achievment. Well done.
Stoffe
Good point, ballague tweeted today about how courtiniho can be injury prone but a deep study of his diet and warm up routine can make a big difference. I think if our medical staff can help agger and sg ( touch wood) if he we have a great chance or figuring out his injuries.
Davey liver
Ooohhhh, Stoffe!
Careful, mate. Last thing they need is a curse...
We run very strict medicals at Liverpool. If there's the slightest of issues with his playing longevity, the deal will be knocked on the head. Much like that French chap that went to Newcastle after failing a medical and everybody soon stopped whining on "we missed another one". I can't even remember his name...
Red7. {Ed002's Note - Sylvain Marveaux actually rejected Liverpool's revised offer and went to Newcastle.}
Do you mean we revised our offer down based on risks raised in the medical ed02? - if so I'd say that was LFC's medical team doing a fine job...
Suffolk'n Red {Ed002's Note - Correct.}
26 Jan 2013 23:51:06
With all the positive comments on here today, please resist from posting "BR out" comments if we lose against Arsenal.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to beat Arsenal, but they are in form. (as are we) We have to remember that 1 game does not define our manager or owners or transfer policy.
Keep the faith through the good times and the bad and help bring Champions league nights back to Anfield.
I honestly see at least a draw from the Arsenal match. It's not an expectation, I "expect" nothing from our club but effort. But, I really do see us taking the points. Wengers defensive tactics are questionable against classy players, combined with slow-motion centre halves and a whimpy, whining, soulless forward combination, we'll be ok. Midfield is the only issue...
Red7.
Lucas Hendo gerrad is a massive must. Also, have you seem how physical Stevie has gotten? It's kinda scary. I love it!
AnfieldUSA
26 Jan 2013 23:50:50
ince scored 2 goals today . can I ask anyone who knows aswell as the eds how many did he score last season, also his he a 1 season wonder or is he realy that good, ??
26 Jan 2013 23:31:58
Just my view ! Look wot we did to Lucas for the first couple ov seasons because he was from brazil we think they should take 3/4 players on and bang top corner etc ! Then Henderson and downing I was not his number 1 fan but I didn't hate on him just thought he should do better at his age etc but I not hate on him, pulling him down no Liverpool player should get that !!!! My point is if we do sign this new (kid) let's not forget that he is still that and a long way from home let's not put the weight ov the world on his shoulders I know most won't !! Let's not forget time please give the lad plenty ov time to get used to PL and England (Liverpool ) as a city I'm sure he'll like it !! I'm happy we trying to make super stars than buy them ready made on silly money to the highest bidder !!!
YNWA. Lfc linc
With Lucas being here who went through that phase should help him & probably settle the way Lucas and Suarez have- south American family in Liverpool so hopefully he'l develop into something spectacular
26 Jan 2013 23:30:13
Coutinho ain't complete yet remember, so after all this, lets hope NO hitches