Liverpool Banter Archive February 27 2011

 

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27 Feb 2011 23:29:20
RE: Gerrard is a useless fat f*****g tw*t. No trust me its easy to criticise him.

Why don't the club let Gerrard Pick the team and the way they should play around him and support him. Make him look great again.

Like Rafa use to

Lets make it all about Gerrard again. Get the players in to make him shine.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:29:28
Gerrard is a world class player who is at the stage of his career where he needs more quality around him now, we can no longer hope for him to carry the team, but remember class is permanent and we will always be better with Stevie in the team. We lack quality simple as, stop turning on our own. Some of the comments on here from reds fans and the ed are embarrassing.
Give the guy a break.
Stoneyford red.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:28:51
Let's face it, all that todays inept performance proved and once again highlighted, is what we all know to be true that we need a minimum of four high class players in order to raise our team from being a mid table adequate, to a title challenging team.

Whilst it hard to accept the way we played (or didn't) today I am level headed enough to accept that certain players are not up to the standard required to compete week in, week out at the highest level in the Premiership.

Hopefully our owners are aware of this fact and given a full summer transfer window will be willing, and able to shift the mediocrities out and bring in quality.

Roll on the summer

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:25:47
RE:Gerrard. - go Captain slow

Lets call Gerrard Captain Slow at our next game. Go Captain Slow. Go {Ed001's Note - that's a bit harsh, he never showed signs of having slowed down at all, on that one occasion he really burst forward he still seemed quick. Just a shame it didn't happen more often.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:23:31
RE: Every time we get our hopes up we get smashed down again.

So i got this idea from John Bishop the Liverpool comedian and Liverpool supporter. You know how anfield is full of Fat, Bald middle-aged men in full Garrard Replace fits.

Why not let them have the chance to play for Liverpool. We could have a lottery before the game. Then one lucky winner can play 45minutes on pitch.

OR What about open pre season trial outs for new players. All you FLC fans can put your money where your mouth is.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:16:48
Test time name one game we have been better in without gerrard, because the way i see it every player this season has been way below par or maybe everyone expects to much of them. oh and that's crap ed ?gerrard doesn't care about the fans? im sure he doesnt, he is captain wants to win trophies. for the club and its fans! ! who else does he try and win games for crawley! ! im sorry ed but that's crap, the way i see it is u truly hate gerrard its the only explanation i can think of TBH. either that or ur a manc jealous coz utd have an amazing midfield with 1 world class player ATM (nani) {Ed001's Note - grow up and stop being so bitter. I have known Gerrard since he was a kid, believe me he is an arrogant little get who is hero worshipped everywhere he goes but thinks he is too important to bother with the fans any more than he has to. But don't be pathetic and start accusing me of being a United fan just because you don't like what I have to say, that is just sad. Like I said, great player but he has an attitude and he needs to lose it for the good of the team or go elsewhere for the good of the team.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:17:35
RE:Gerrard is bigger than LFC

Well he is God. No Robbie Fowler was God so he must be Jesus Christ. Fans come and Fans go. We are a fickle bunch that hate him one week love him the next. And in Liverpool he prob can do whatever he wants to do to the city and to fan base.

Who is going to stop him or bring him down to earth

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:10:37
RE:stevie G Weight.

I know i would be upset if someone eas calling me fat. I wonder if he checks liverpool forums?

You FAT Bsd. Who Eat All The Pies.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:10:38
I completely agree about gerrard he needs to try. Buy he's such an icon. It's too hard to criticise him

Gerrard is a useless fat f*****g tw*t. No trust me its easy to criticise him.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:06:42
RE:Do we live in a culture of blame?

Is blame the wrong way to go. Who was to blame for the lost against west-ham. When we should look at who showed promise

Luis Suarez had a great turn to open up the defense. shows promise like Berbatov

hitzelsperger played a few nice balls today.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:07:02
I just can't believe this sesaon, I thought last season was bad but this is unbelievable. Every time we get our hopes up we get smashed down again. It's almost unbearable. Now that any last lingering chance of a Champions League place has gone, one thing that would make it more bearable would be to give some of the young stars a chance, even if it's only 10 to 15 minutes at the end of the game. What have we got to lose? We can't get relegated, we can't get Champions League. If anyone mentions we have a Europa league place to fight for, I'll go mad. For starters, we'd probably have more of a chance of making that with the kids than some of the deadwood getting games at the moment. Even if we don't qualify, so what. It will give us more chance to concentrate on the Premier Laegue next season.

Everone knows the players who need to be off loaded. If Kenny keeps picking them in the misguided belief that he might get something out of them, they will probably think they might have a future at the club. Freeze them out a bit and they might get the message.

Redmersey

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:03:38
27 Feb 2011 22:34:08
Ed, do you not like gerrard or do u have something against him? {Ed001's Note - as a person? No, I don't like him, he has no respect for the fans whatsoever and is an arrogant person. As a player? He is one of the most talented players we have ever had, but he has let his standards and his workrate drop of late.}

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I totally agree Ed Gerrard is a world class player but like you i feel he doesn't do enough for the team, he appears to think he is bigger than LFC and the fans that pay his wages.
His arrogance is beyond belief and since the incident he had with the DJ i feel he's become worse, we'd be as well to cash in on him in the summer and get someone who will give 100% to LFC.
KK knows no-one is bigger than the club but the question is will he do anything about it?. Thoughts ed?

Brian {Ed001's Note - I would like him a lot more if he was a bit more respectful towards the fans. It wouldn't do him any harm to take that extra moment on a night out to speak with fans. After all he is earning ridiculous amounts of money thanks to them. It is not his fault to be fair, he has always been put up on a pedestal and no one has ever brought him back to earth.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 23:00:33
RE:don't understand why so many of you criticise Lucas

We can't blame Roy Hodgson anymore, We can't blame Konchesky for our loses. Cant even blame Torres anymore.

Lucas is the only one left to blame.

Then it will be a toss up between Gerrard and Carra to hate on. The real problem has be the lack of goals. The new formation gave them stability from the back, but against a team like West-ham it doesn't work. West-ham sat off and are bigger physically.

Got lucky with a Scott Parker Goal. Then Liverpool whole tactics went out of window. No Plan b.

Liverpool seem to always lose or draw in games where the other team score early.The game doesn't get stretched.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:55:47
Ed and others, do u think stevie has put on weight because it looked like it today. {Ed001's Note - I thought he looked a bit tubby today, I found it a little worrying, especially as he wasn't running about as much as usual.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:51:24
I completely agree about gerrard he needs to try. Buy he's such an icon. It's too hard to criticise him

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:47:44
U lot make me sick sometimes. west ham who deserved there win gave everything 100% y because they needed to. u lot make out as if liverpool were absolute crap and that its all gerrard and carras foult. next ull want dalgish to get sacked ur all living in dreamland when the reality is our squad has not enough depth and ability to compete with spurs, chelsea, utd, city, arsenal. yes we beat chelsea but at the end of the day they are bot 5, 6 points clear of us with 2 games in hand. the downfall of liverpool pivoted on 1 point benitez trying to get rid of alonso. since his exit we have been in free fall with no parachute. i used to look at this team (reina, arbeloa, carragher, agger, aurelio, gerrard, alonso, mascherano, kuyt, torres, riera) and think we can win today now i can only see one maybe 2 players who can get us a win. suarez and gerrard. gerrard may not score but he is crucial in build up play, same for meireles but hes no alonso. lucas is no mascherano. they have never been REPLACED

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:49:35
Folks, GET BEHIND THE ED and respect his judgement on gerrard because i completely agree.

As with torres, no-one is bigger than the club, what makes LFC so huge is its fans and there has been more than one time when gerrard has been arrogant and rude to a supporter. If he is not performing he has to be dropped, if he is then all is good.

Red crest

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:38:08
Hey ed,
It was jus a s**te day and Performance. It had to happen at some stage. I don't think the deePer role suits stevie g. Injuries change of formation everything jus went pear shaped. Even the linesman given that throw in against us. We jus have to forget it and get ready for the scum game. The only thing that bugs the s**te out of me and for a few seasons now, is the constant messing with the ball at the back. How many times were we nearly caught. Then all we end up doing is hoofin it from carra and skrtel any way.
By the way Macca mate I hope u right about them transfers coz they would be great acquisitions. Macca have u any info on yann mvila? Or a left back?
Cheers lads
Fowler is god

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:38:44
Ok, so I've only watched the first half so far of our match today. Lucas made 2 mistakes in the first half! He dwindled on the ball early in the game & got robbed & the second mistake only came in the 39th minute when he was the only midfielder about trying to cover for 2 players.Apart from that he done everything else well & always looked for a forward pass. Suarez should have had a penalty, Carragher was easily done for the second goal, Parker couldn't score that goal again if he had another 10 efforts at it! & last but not least Gerrard was awful! I read Bob the Reds post earlier about Gerrard carrying a bit of weight & I didn't believe it but it certainly looked as if he was heavy! Now maybe this is down to doing extra weights or some sort of body protection, but he did look bigger.

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:39:56
I really feel it is time for a big overhaul at LFC. Players who've not proved they have quality- Jovanovic, Poulsen etc need to go. The owners need to bring in quality players in the summer or next season we'll finish out of the CL places again.

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The thought had never crossed my mind.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:44:24
Ed is it me or could we have actually used poulson today. . hes not the best midfielder but at least he would have got stuck in especially when meireles went off! Whats your opinion? {Ed001's Note - I would have thought Spearing would have been a better bet than Poulsen, but yes we needed a bit more bite in midfield and Lucas needed help as he was being overrun by West Ham's midfield trio. I think the loss of Kelly made the major difference, he was dragging two players over there to mark him constantly, as was Johnson on the left. Cole just didn't carry the same threat (or any threat for that matter) and Johnson was having to play much deeper.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:34:08
Ed, do you not like gerrard or do u have something against him? {Ed001's Note - as a person? No, I don't like him, he has no respect for the fans whatsoever and is an arrogant person. As a player? He is one of the most talented players we have ever had, but he has let his standards and his workrate drop of late.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:34:15
I really don't understand why so many of you criticise Lucas every time we loose, he is not the greatest player in the premiership we all know that, but today he was the only decent midfielder out there for us, he had to cover the area on his own while Gerrard and Raul go walkies to no mans land, and our defenders back off leaving a big gap between him and them . .
Also Kuyt , yep he was not the best player on the pitch but he was the only one bothered to come back and defend then run back up .
Funny none of you mentioned how much of a waste of space joe cole is, Wilson and Carra came on each others way far too many times and the first goal (a very good goal for Parker) may have been avoided if Carra or Wilson closed on him rather than at each other.
Parker: He was awesome for them today, the best player on the pitch , sometimes we just have to admit we lost to a better team on the day, westham deserved the win, they were up for it with passion from the start, most of our players were thinking about their sunday dinner.
I don't think it was bad planning from KK, and we still played far better football than we did for most games under Roy. . today to put it simply we lost to a team that wanted it more.

Roy

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:35:43
Different opinions but if one of our best ever players isn't playing at his best should we get behind him just like we did for the traitor torres and get him back to lifting the team to win streaks and scoring non stop surley we shouldnt be jiping him and saying hes lost it {Ed001's Note - sorry but if a player is not putting the effort in, which he is clearly not doing, they deserve to be told so.}

ofcorse he is putting the effort it he may not be performing the gerrard way but he still puts in 110% every game just like carragher and every so called liverpool fan is saying hes crap and needs to go id like to see where wwe would be without him this season i no wer not wer we should be but we would be worse of without him {Ed001's Note - I am sorry but I failed to see any effort out of him for 99% of that match, he made two or three forward bursts and that was it. We need more from a central midfielder than that, they need to get back as well as forward.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:24:14
Leader, inspiration - scott parker

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:26:59
{Ed001's Note - name one match this season we have looked better with Gerrard in? Or last season for that matter?}

the time he came on when he scored the hat-rick in the europa league the 3-2 defeat to man u {Ed001's Note - which I have already mentioned as his only good game this season, regards the hat-trick. As for against United, we hardly played better than we did without him in following games did we?}

different opinions but if one of our best ever players isn't playing at his best should we get behind him just like we did for the traitor torres and get him back to lifting the team to win streaks and scoring non stop surley we shouldnt be jiping him and saying hes lost it {Ed001's Note - sorry but if a player is not putting the effort in, which he is clearly not doing, they deserve to be told so.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:27:07
Why is everyone turnin on stevie tbh u shud all be ashamed dessertin ur captain ur not true supporters fair enuf if u criticise sumone like lucas but not stevie g {Ed001's Note - so it is ok to criticise one player but not another? Don't be so stupid, when Gerrard was throwing girly little strops all last season, and not even bothering to try, Lucas was at least there putting the effort in week in week out and helping out to his best. When Gerrard destroyed our best chance of winning the league by attacking a club dj who dared to not bow down before his greatness, Lucas was acting a model pro. I think you will find it is a player like Gerrard, who is not making the most of his far superior ability, that deserves to be criticised.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:21:23
{Ed001's Note - name one match this season we have looked better with Gerrard in? Or last season for that matter?}

Bolton at home! {Ed001's Note - so that's two, as opposed to the other games he played in when he was crap. Great, I can so see why you are defending him! Even great players have to be let go sometimes, otherwise Barnes would still be on our left wing, after all he played well there a few year's back....}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:22:21
With the signings of Pandev, Valbuena/ Turan, Adam, M'Vila, Young and Enrique our team would be quality.
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Yeah,

Reina,
Johnson
Skrtel, Carra
Agger
Enrique, Aurelio
Lucas, Spearing
Gerrard, Meireles, Adam
Young, Cole
Maxi, Valbuena
Suarez, Carroll, Pandev, Ngog, Kuyt

Ayala, Kelly, Wilson, Shelvey, M'Vila, Pacheco do not need registering.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:16:02
Gerrard, Carra, Reina and Cole were shameful, if they were playing for an Indian cricket team they would be investigated for match fixing

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:17:41
{Ed001's Note - name one match this season we have looked better with Gerrard in? Or last season for that matter?}

the time he came on when he scored the hat-rick in the europa league the 3-2 defeat to man u {Ed001's Note - which I have already mentioned as his only good game this season, regards the hat-trick. As for against United, we hardly played better than we did without him in following games did we?}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:07:05
Ed do your opinion? {Ed001's Note - I am sorry, when was Gerrard great this season? He had one good sub appearance, that is it.}

sorry ed but we are a much better team with gerrard in and we play better why is everyone turning on out skipper {Ed001's Note - name one match this season we have looked better with Gerrard in? Or last season for that matter?}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 22:01:45
I've just been on the Birmingham side to see how their enjoying their victory and there has only been THREE posts all day and one is from a Liverpool fan?? ?? ?? ?? ??

MR EM

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 21:52:56
Ed mate, what do you think of gerrard, do you think he is still world class, do you think he will remain captain next year and what would you do with him? {Ed001's Note - he was coming back from injury today, so some of his performance can be put down to rustiness. But most of the problem was laziness, he strolled around the field like he owned it today, despite never getting near the ball. There was a real lack of effort and that is not good enough. World class players work hard on the pitch, you would never see Messi strolling around after giving the ball away for the umpteenth time. Yet today, as has happened for the last few years, we have seen Gerrard only putting in the effort when it is in the final third. He doesn't chase back any more, he needs to pick up his work rate or be sold, it is that simple. He has so much ability, but we can't afford a passenger in midfield

im sorry but people who are saying carragher and gerrard should get first team are idiots maybe carra but hes allowed to have a bad game as well as gerrard he has been great this season and one bad game hes getting jip a mean get a grip we will get better time and money will help just because we had the worst team performance of the kk return you think all of out players are crap

ed do your opinion? {Ed001's Note - I am sorry, when was Gerrard great this season? He had one good sub appearance, that is it.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 21:33:07
Yet again we lose a game and everyone jumps on the end of the world band wagon. We need to take a closer look at ourselves. We added two players in January only one of which is fit at the moment and lost a player so it's one for one. Our squad was too light in August and nothing has really changed except we now have a manager who believes in the club and has put self belief into a lot of players. KK said himself after the chelski game that we would not win every game between now and the end of the season but we would try. If Roy was still here anyone think we'd be 6th? No didn't think so. Right now who we sign in the summer doesn't matter we need to focus on who's here, those that aren't good enough will be gone in the summer, KK knows what he wants and the owners are making the right sounds about backing him.

We had a couple of injuries in Europe and that didn't help today but we're building for next season we played two up front today away from home not something we have done in recent years. Let's be honest West Ham couldn't have played as badly as they did at Anfield and until Kelly went off and we had to change shape we looked more likely to get a result despite the goal. but I give west ham the respect they deserve for today we weren't at the races in the second half and i'm pretty sure the players would have been told that in the changing room.

Have some faith believe in the team and lets see how we bounce back against manure that's the true test of the teams passion.

KopIdol

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 21:30:45
In response to . .

What quality youngsters have MU brought through "recently" apart from Fletcher? Gibson, the Brazilian twins (don't think so). All the old guard are just about to retire.

Grayswood

{Ed002's Note: United have Pogba, Morrison, King, Cleverley, Welbeck. Chelsea have Kakuta, McEachran, van Aanholt, Bruma.}

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Correct me if I'm wrong but apart from the occasional appearance by McEachran (who looks the business - better than Ramires & Mikel by a mile) where have the others featured in the first team for MU or CFC? Aren't they all out on loan with Leicester, Fulham, Wigan etc or still in the youth or reserve squads? I could have listed all the LFC hopefuls there as potentials that might make it, like Ayala. The point I was trying to make is that MU are buying in talent more than they used to e.g. Smalling. None of those mentioned are in the MU team.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 21:25:04
This damn white jersey is our unlucky charm! ! I don't remember winning any match with us wearing it.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 21:26:02
Sorry boys but this performance just shows us how good/ bad we really are, poor in many areas. I'm not in the business of disparaging the team or individuals but several of the team need to take a good look at their performances today. Gerrard and Carragher in particular, no matter what anyone else says the fact remains that they're both past their best and living on their reputations. If Reina wants to go (and it's obvious to me he's not really interested anymore) then let him go. We need to sweep clean and start again. The youngsters should be given a chance we're not going anywhere this season and we need to see for sure whether they can cut it or not speculation is all well and good but there is nothing like seeing them in action in a realtime situation. YNWA

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:55:58
ED, what players do you rate'would improve the squad whilst being possible to pursue mate?

Melbourne! {Ed001's Note - there are loads mate, I really don't want to sit here and type out lists tonight.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 21:03:46
27 Feb 2011 20:34:32
Sydney!

Saw you on the LFC page. Yes we LFC have a poor squad, but we also had a poor squad when we were pushing you all the way 2 seasons ago, but players were believing their own hype and thinking they were better than they were while torres and gerrard were at their peak. But United don't have the best team nor best squad mate, use might win the PL because of chelseas demise, arsenals no nerve and man city faltering but use don't have a hells chance of winning the CL because there are ALOT of better teams with better players who will destroy your nothing' midfield. next season we will see how your team fares when others including us improve, whilst a return for the special one to chelsea is on the cards. Man u could yet see their demise'


Melbourne!

@you had Alonso, Mascheadro, Torres and Arbelendo who could defend unlike Johnson.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 21:10:37
Just assume we don't get any European football for next season, Ed do you think we can still attract world class players that every team is after. It's a big ask for them to join us while we're only in Europa league but it's an even bigger ask to join us with no European football. also it will be very hard to keep key players like Renia. I doubt he'd stay if we can't offer any European football. {Ed001's Note - it depends on the player, this is such a stupid question in all honesty. Every player makes a decision based on his own preferences and ideals. Some want to play for a big club, which Liverpool are, some want to play for the money, which is why they sign for City, some choose the team they think most likely to win things, which is why Spurs had a bit of trouble getting a striker. Not everyone cares about European football, though it is a plus. Sorry I wasn't meaning to have a go, it has just been asked and answered thousands of times. Liverpool got Suarez no trouble, the likes of Turan and Honda were sending out come and buy me pleas to us in January when things looked a lot worse.}


now i may get slated for this but i actually think a season without europe may be a good thing, espescially if its only missing out on the europa league and heres why! If we fail to qualify it will give us extra time to rebuild to mount a challange for the top spots in the league if not a title challange. If we have the less games without the europa league our players will be fresher every week with a lot more determination to qualify for the next season europe outings. We are always going to be able to get qualty players to the club so without the burden of travelling for days we mount a proper attack! What do you think ed? ? {Ed001's Note - personally I think it would be a good thing too, but then I have to admit I find European footie boring as hell and hate watching it, so I think I am a bit biased.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 21:13:12
With the signings of Pandev, Valbuena/ Turan, Adam, M'Vila, Young and Enrique our team would be quality

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 21:13:14
I can't believe anyone is having a go at Wilson; ffs you know how old he is? Defensively he looks ok he just needs to improve on his distribution.

The 2nd goal for west ham was a joke - he got nudged while he was in the air and bacause of this couldn't get back in time - referee's fault not his.

Some people need to be patient - look at the last 10 years when have we have 4 players 21 and under playing in the first team (Kelly, Wilson, Spearing, Shelvey)?

I want success as much as anyone and today's performance was poor ( not trying to single players out but Kuyt was shocking today - and has been but as he works hard and scores the odd important goal he's idolised).

People who criticise Ngog (as he's new they won't criticise Suarez) need to see how many times we play balls to them that give them opportunities to either score or make a goal scoring opportunity; I'm not saying Ngog is great but he had to spend too much time treaking back and helping the overrun midfield.

The team played poorly and it was the wrong formation to play 2day; s**t happens.

Also Ed can you help me out here - when people say players for sale isn't Insua and Degan out of contract so we won't get anything for them (unless Insua moves to an EPL team)?

Hoola {Ed001's Note - to be honest it wouldn't matter how long their contract was for, no one was willing to pay money for them anyway, that is why they are on loan.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 21:18:41
I am not a Lucas hater. . . But I think that his position in the team has to be looked at next season. The way the team is set up these days he receives a lot of the ball. Picking it from defence and starting our 'so called' attacks. But he lacks quality in his passing, creativity and vision. Some how he has found himself through no fault of his own as our defensive midfielder and our 'quarterback'. Alonso was great at this and was the very successful at it. He helped us control games from that position with good possession whilst also setting the tempo of our play. None of our mangers have trusted Gerrard in that role as he is inept defensively so Lucas has found. Himself there. I would like to see how much of the ball Lucas has out of all the possession we have and this I think will surely prove that he needs replacing. Top players like viera and keane played that position and always stamped their authority on the game . Now we need someone who can do the same for us. Unfortunately unless we have around 20m to spend on that position alone, Lucas will be there again. Also. . . . . As an alternative for Charlie Adam, one player I would love to see instead of him in his would be role at lfc is Stewart downing. Playing in midfield not as a winger. I think he would be a top signing for us. He has good technique , burst of pace and great passing range. I remember him playing in centre mid for middlesbrough before he left them and he was quality. Just like when villa played James milner in centre mid - any thoughts?????

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:42:54
Gutted about 2days game could of put pressure on chelsea and spurs. thought suarez was our best player 2day great skill, link up play, set up johnson goal and unlucky not to score. just showed 2day that we are crying out for wingers both sides as no one can really attack their fullbacks and beat players. kuyt cannot beat players and his final ball 2day was very poor. i feel we need a hard man in midfield as meireles is too weak in 50-50 challenges and gets hurt very easily. skterl was poor again 2day in coles goal, hopefuly agger isn't that bad injury.

GREG_MC

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:45:56
I can't understand why kk only made 2 subs, could have brought spearing on,

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:47:41
Im a bitter Arsenal fan and doing a test. Spurs fans are constantly on our site sayin they are a better team.

Agree = Arsenal better
Disagree = Spurs better

paddy

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:51:54
ED, I am worried that when i arrive at anfield next season, baquettes and eiffel tower key wings will be on sale and that famous french song sung by some woman will be sung instead of YNWA:), The majority of the players we are interested in or likely to buy are french(camolli who i dare not trust) Benzema, payet, yan m'villa, marvuex, sissoko?ED, on a serious note, Do you not think this is Slightly worrying? {Ed001's Note - not in the slightest.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:40:58
Ed, I have always had a feeling Reina will go in the summer. And still do. Perhaps not bad getting away from the spanish connection.

If he left, who do you rate we could get and who would be your choice.

I have always fancied Foster, and after watching him closely I almost think he is the best keeper in the league this season. Would you consider him? {Ed001's Note - Not for me, he is a very average keeper in my opinion. There are many better keepers around, De Gea, Stekelenburg, Asenjo, Neur, Adler just off the top of my head, are all better.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:35:50
Very, very bad sunday

Just when we could take a giant step competing with the big boys(cause we're not even close right now) we f*** up AGAIN. . .

I'm not here to slate the club or individuals, but seems like KK has been brought down to earth with a big bang!

The team is so easy to read these days, the opposition managers must be enjoying playing us.
The midfield is one big open range, and it's bery simple if you can't control the canter, you're loosing very easily.
And West Ham doesn't have 1 single player I would touch, this could have been a easy win.

But then we show up with 1 central midfielder, very bad KK, this have to be the worst tactics I've ever seen since RH.

Dont get me wrong, love Kenny being back, but this was s**t tactics!

Gerrard - was he fit? Hope not, couldn't control anything, but never could.

The days og Rafa, we always had a controlling mid, Alonso, Masch.

I think we should had gone all in for Adam, but that's too late now.

I think we might see 0 points for the next 5 games, and we're back in relegation mess again.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:28:44
Carragher is a sook, he only upsets the team with his childish rants. Grow up s**t head. Usually happens when you are to slow and old to play at the top flight.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:29:38
Lot of whining on here tonight ok so West Hamm outplayed us for an hour of the match and some players where off key but look a bit closer at Gerrard.

To me he looked injured he was wearing those thigh supports never took a corner in fact it went from suarez to lucas to cole and finally free kicks only took 1 despite some good positions little strange don't you think.

That left Lucas alone in midfield to track 3 good midfielders and 2 big strikers falling back into midfield that's why we where overun.

Thought Johnson MOM and suarez looks strong

the rest includingpepe where less than average

TC

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:18:20
Suarez has tweeted, very angry about the game , must work hard for next week,

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:02:07
Im absolutely sick of the sight of N'Gog. I understand that the youngsters beed to be looked after and well nurtured when young, but if they don't get a chance, how will they develop?
I really want to see kenny using Sterling and Pacheco soon as i really cannot stand watching N'Gog anymore.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:02:56
I haven't read anyones post match posts yet cause i'm not sure i want to depress myself, but what was Carragher doing for the second & third goals does anyone know?? ?
Just standing off & watching it seemed to me!
Afraid to tackle?!
Reina obviously didn't cover himself in glory for the third goal either but the cheek of Carragher to abuse Skrtel for not marking tighter for the second goal!
Get your own house in order first Mr. Carragher!
I'm really getting fed up with his attitude now!
Was a great player for us a few years ago, WAS!
Kelly has something of a Gareth Bale about him - hope he's not out too long!
At least Suarez looked dangerous & was unlucky not to have gotten a penalty & maybe a goal near the end!
Irish Kev.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 20:09:40
Gutted after watching todays game. hope, we are not repeating the same against Man utd or any other team, we face. Please Kenny sign us some good players especially wingers in Summer, we need to a re-building, there. .

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:47:05
Ed mate, what do you think of gerrard, do you think he is still world class, do you think he will remain captain next year and what would you do with him? {Ed001's Note - he was coming back from injury today, so some of his performance can be put down to rustiness. But most of the problem was laziness, he strolled around the field like he owned it today, despite never getting near the ball. There was a real lack of effort and that is not good enough. World class players work hard on the pitch, you would never see Messi strolling around after giving the ball away for the umpteenth time. Yet today, as has happened for the last few years, we have seen Gerrard only putting in the effort when it is in the final third. He doesn't chase back any more, he needs to pick up his work rate or be sold, it is that simple. He has so much ability, but we can't afford a passenger in midfield

ED. i rote that, totally agree mate BUT i cannot see KK ever selling him even if he continues not working hard enough. Ed, btw is shelvy a dmf or an ATM, do you think he has great potential? {Ed001's Note - Kenny will sell him when he feels it would be best for the club to sell. As for Shelvey, he is an attack minded player.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:33:37
{Ed001's Note - it has always been his problem, if he doesn't panic he just hoofs it. The annoying thing is that he can do better, he has better ability than that, it seems to be a mindset he has got into.}

yeh i agree. even when he's in space and has time he seems to think a long ball upfield is the answer. ok he lacks the composure and pace to bring it out from the back but why can't he play it along the ground to the midfield ffs.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:29:10
At least today's result will put an end to whole those fantasists who thought we might sneak into a champion leagues place.

It was evident in midweek against Sparta that we are just not good enough as a team and have no strength in depth, over the last month or so since Kenny took over we have managed to pick up points as kenny as managed to install a little self belief into a mediorca team of players.

Now the reality has landed, kenny understands as do most true fans that for us to become a true force again we need massive overall of players. With the exception of Suarez and Carrol we only have Gerrard, Reina, Meirellas and Kelly who offer any real quality in our team. We now have I believe the weekest Liverpool team in the last 20 years.

I think the owners and Kenny and Comolli can see this, in reality to finish 6th would be all that we could expect this year and the club needs to start planning for next season instead.

Too many bad buys, too many players who are carried week in week out, too much deadwood.

We need £100 million spending on decent players with the help of the sales of all the deadwood, and players who want to play for the club and not just players who pick up a pay cheque week in week out.

RedAk1

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:27:38
It will soon be a time of change for Liverpool and other teams with ageing players. Chelsea to name but one.

Stevie might do better to have a final fling abroad before father time catches up with him. Carra can now only play the occasional good game, too slow.

Kuyt is enthusiastic, but age will catch up with him soon. He cannot rely on skill he doesn't have.

It is time for youth and new players to enter the stage. Istanbul is nearly 6 years ago.

Time has also affected Kenny. However much he is loved, and he surely is. The game has moved on.Gone are the days of the simple 4-3-3 or 4-4-2.

There needs to be some brave and sad decisions made this summer. Sammy Lee needs to go and it is by no means certain that Kenny has moved with the times. I prefer to have good memories of him, not of the frustration that will arrive when things go wrong.

I hope Liverpool have the policy of selling good players abroad, and not to the opposition.

If Pepe wants to leave, he must go to Barcelona, not Man U or Arsenal.

There will be some difficult and sad choices ahead.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:12:00
Carragher is not good enough.

bring the ball up the half way line, panic, pass to skrtel, drop deeper, recieve the ball from skrtel, panic, pass to reina forcing him to hoof it up field consequently losing possesion.

this is the case week in week out ffs.

ed? {Ed001's Note - it has always been his problem, if he doesn't panic he just hoofs it. The annoying thing is that he can do better, he has better ability than that, it seems to be a mindset he has got into.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:12:25
Ed mate, what do you think of gerrard, do you think he is still world class, do you think he will remain captain next year and what would you do with him? {Ed001's Note - he was coming back from injury today, so some of his performance can be put down to rustiness. But most of the problem was laziness, he strolled around the field like he owned it today, despite never getting near the ball. There was a real lack of effort and that is not good enough. World class players work hard on the pitch, you would never see Messi strolling around after giving the ball away for the umpteenth time. Yet today, as has happened for the last few years, we have seen Gerrard only putting in the effort when it is in the final third. He doesn't chase back any more, he needs to pick up his work rate or be sold, it is that simple. He has so much ability, but we can't afford a passenger in midfield.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:14:44
I'm as gutted by todays result as everyone else but think some of the responses to it on here are outrageous. Get rid of Gerrard and Carra? IF Carra and Gerrard are past it Kenny will not keep them around for the sake of it. He believes in the team being more important than anyone including himself. I trust his judgement in this and other players that need looking at. Personally I agree that Gerrard has not been at his best for the last few years and I also agree with at least one of the Eds that he is not much of a team player and believes the hype about himself too much. If and when he goes it will not be the end of the world. Leave this to KK to sort.

Let's face it , we had a stinker today but looking for scapegoats is not the lfc way (until recently). We live as a team, play as a team and lose as a team. . . . .we regroup as a team as well. Give the guys a break and get behind the team!

Iggypop

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:15:49
Reason for Tosses exit from Anfield.
Torres, who has been held high by Liverpool fans, Traited Liverpool fans when he choose to Join Chelsea on Transfer Deadline. Many feels that He left Anfield because of Money that they would offer him, but there is a lot more than it. Some of the causes that may be the reason for Torres's departure from Anfield are discussed below.
Departure of Rafael Benitez
Rafael Benitez is the one who brought Torres to Anfield and has been an influence in Torres success at Anfield. Indian red

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:19:49
We need wingers. Joe Cole is not a Liverpool player, he's too slow. Lucas is not a Liverpool player, limited passing range. We really miss Agger. I'm not a Lucas hater, actually I was hoping he would do well. But I just don't see him as the sort of special & dynamic player that we need if we are to win the Premier League.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:02:54
I suppose this isn't the best time to pull at that thread that peformances under Dalglish are starting emulate those of Hodgson?

No didn't think so, but whilst my worry in this regard has been put on alert, i look for signs that it is indeed so.

The last four games and counting. I wonder how many of us are saying Dalglish perhaps isn't this masterful magician that everyone has reveried him to be?

And before i comment on the game, i missed the first 60 mins (lucky me eh?) but when i put the TV on, the first thing i honestly thought was 'Christ Gerrard looks like he's put some timber on!'.

It must have been the shirt fittings, surely? And this is what happens when you dare mention Champions League football. The team go and let us down. . . . . .again.

Bob the Red

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:03:31
ED, Will there be many players leaving in the summer or only 1 or two every season because i am sick of seeing most of these players who have been under performing for years now and are STILL at lfc. I would rather the youngsters take the place of gerrard and carrager because not only are they past their best, they have to much of a say and ego around the place. I reckon lucas and wilson would learn alot more without them both. Carra is to slow and poor on ball whilst gerrard isn't scoring enough goals to be an ATM, isn't a PASSING midfielder and is certainly not a DMF. I would put gerrard on the right for the remainder of the season and then if hes not improving, a SQUAD player with carra next season. Ed, would you agree mate? {Ed001's Note - I expect to see a minor clearout in the summer with a number of players leaving at least, the deadwood will mostly be on its way. I do agree that youngsters will pick up bad habits watching Carra hoof it when there is an easy pass on.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 19:04:47
Sanchez scored four goals for udinese in twenty minutes today! Would be a brilliant signing if we could get him

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:55:54
To be fair, all credit to West Ham today, the did play very well, you've got to hand it to them.

As for the people criticising Carragher and Gerrard. How many times do you expect them to pull these mediocre players through the mud? I get the impression Gerrard has had enough, and even Carra looked fed up.

I don't think it was anyone's fault individually, West Ham just wanted it 50X more than we did. Johnson looked make shift at left back, and Wilson didn't look ready, but due to shortages he had to make the step up.

There is still another 30 points up for grabs. I do feel we can get at least 6th place, but Spurs are only 8 points off and a game in hand, so potentially 8, 9 or 11 points ahead. That is a difference that can be made up in 10 games. We just need to re-group and get some more momentum going.

Suarez did great for the goal, Cole looked improved. Let's take positives and not all this negativity. It's not just Lucas' fault. I think Kenny will have a good look at the squad in the summer and remove the dead wood and the players that seem to more of an advantage to the opposition than to us. Not to mention players.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if we win the Europa cup, do we not automatically qualify for next year? I'm praying Kenny takes us all the way with that.

Sonic

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:48:51
We are once again struggling because of the return of the gob from bootle Yes I admit he had a great game against Chelsea, but that was the case for the whloe team , apart from Maxi. Super carra, of Old would have blocked the first two goals today .The guy can't pass the ball out of defence, can't tackle without fouling , can't turn faster than the queen mary, can't run , the most abusive player I have witnessed in a red shirt, has been average for nearly two seasons but like Bagpuss, youngsters love him. While he continues to be a first team starter, we will never be good enough to win the league. Sir Bob would have replaced him years ago.Fact.

Legend my Apsenal

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:47:34
Ed, surely my point has been proven about getting adam. We could of had 6 MIDFIELDERS on the pitch 2day but not one of them is capable of grabbing the game by the scruff. That is why there is a need for adam though i would prefer martinez. Ed, what do you make of gerrard mate, he hasn't been playing great for 2 seasons now, do you think its time he became a squad player?

{Ed002's Note - If you would prefer Martinez to Adam yourself then I guess your point has not been made. Gerrard needs to sort himself out. The fans have always considered him untouchable, but I gess a few are seeing him in a different light.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:44:16
Ffs i'm not being funny but one rubbish performance (as a team might i add) and suddenly your doing away with not only our captain and vice but also mr and mr liverpool! You really think that their the two players holding us back?

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both were very poor today, and they both looked overweight and in any other team would be dropped. poor performance from carra and gerrard.

-totally agree with you right there, however my response was to someone's team for next season. Both carra and stevie have come back from injury recently, yes they were s**te today but that doesn't mean their ready for the knackers yard, surely people agree?

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:45:39
It was a very poor game today, West Ham deserved the 3 points, and we were second best all over the pitch, and really did lack any creativity or comitment, but we have been lacking creativity in the team for quite a while now, I hope that comolli and KK can find some quality players in the summer, but I am not sure Comolli is the right person to find that quality, his record in France was very poor and also wasted millions and we have had previous mangers who have been very good at that as well. Ross YNWA

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:36:31
Any news on the injuries to meireles and kelly?
ED, anyone? {Ed002's Note - It will eb a few days before anything is clear about the extent of the injuries.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:17:52
Will it be harder to get into the europa league now that birmingham have won the carling cup

{Ed002's Note - Yes. It means at best there are only two places available - fith and sixth. If Everton, for example, were to win the FA Cup, then it would only be fifth.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:18:30
Ffs i'm not being funny but one rubbish performance (as a team might i add) and suddenly your doing away with not only our captain and vice but also mr and mr liverpool! You really think that their the two players holding us back?


I personally feel that carra's ability has held us back for a couple of years. I know his dedication and desire for us to win is unquestionable but he has never hads much pace, is very poor on the ball, gives up possession so often (if in doubt-hoof it out attitude that 10 year olds have) and this year his positioning has been poor.

Still much better than Skrtel mind you.lol
Agreed gerrard still has a lot to offer but maybe needs to rethink his position and lay a little deeper and allow mereiles more of the attacking influence.

Jason

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:18:33
In concurrence to what the ed said regarding charlie adam not wanting to move at present. I live just outside of blackpool and am aware through mates of mine that charlie adam has recently moved into a new house in poulton-le-fylde. this would mean just over an hour journey to liverpool, hardly too far away for training. most people around here are still confident he will join liverpool, but if i'm being honest i think vaughan is their key player, and without him adam would have little freedom to have the freedom he gets. very much like alonso-gerrard, makelele-lampard. as far as rumours go not heard much other than we have pipped everton to the "best 15 year old kid" an everton coach has ever seen. A lad from WBA i believe. plus an increasing number of players from the bundesliga are coming under consideration

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:25:02
Bad result for us in the carling cup. European football will be hard to get for next season.

It'll cost us about 10 million overall if we miss the Europa league so it isn't end of the world.

may well hinder us in the transfer market thought, it's a big enough ask for the players to come to a non champs league club in the first place. but i fear no european competition at all will be really detrimental to us, even in trying to keep players such as reina

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:26:09
Ffs i'm not being funny but one rubbish performance (as a team might i add) and suddenly your doing away with not only our captain and vice but also mr and mr liverpool! You really think that their the two players holding us back?

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both were very poor today, and they both looked overweight and in any other team would be dropped. poor performance from carra and gerrard.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:13:58
Ed how can you say Song is trash? I think he's been a top player for Arsenal, and would take him into our squad any day

{Ed002's Note - I don't think that was what he was saying. This came from my mentioning that Arsenal are looking for a defensive midfielder (which they are) are then someone leaping up in defence of Arsenal saying that he is 110% sure that they are not. It did not seem worth explaining Arsenal's interest in Blaise Matuidi to such an expert in the subject.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:14:44
Simple Question to all the guys who supported Wilson starting - What do you guys think about it now? Is he ready for the EPL stage as I think he needs maturing and decision making is s**te.
He seemed scared to go in, slow to mark and dint look enthusiastic in playing a 1-2 to move forward on the flank. Yeah he is a CB but Kelly is also a CB and see the difference.

I think r best defence line is KELLY- CARRA- -SKRTEL- AGGER- JOHN when playin WB system
and else - - Kelly- Carra- - Agger- - -Johnson.
I n both systems SOTO should be preferred before Wilson.

Just being British does not make him a readymade good player to handle EPL. He proved it today

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:15:05
Ed, do you reckon conor coady could be as good as gerrard has been in the future?
He does look top class.

Thanks,
Stu.

{Ed002's Note - It is impossible to say. Comparing players is never easy, nor really appropriate. As an example, will Coady ever be as good as Ruben Fernandez Real or Charles Kumi Gyamfi - I simply do not know.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:17:10
{Ed001's Note - I have not heard anything regarding an interest in Diego, I think people are wishful thinking again with regard to Juve not being able to afford Aquaman.}

Has Diego not just signed a 4 year deal with Wolfsburg?

{Ed002's Note - He did move to Wolfsburg - I am not sure how long the contract is. The issue at Juventus is not that they cannot afford Aquilani, it is that they are balancing his purchase against the free signing of Pirlo.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:12:15
Bad result for us in the carling cup. European football will be hard to get for next season.

It'll cost us about 10 million overall if we miss the Europa league so it isn't end of the world.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:08:54
Kuyt, Lucas & Ngog are the most avg of the avg players. Guess LFC fans love a hard working tryer no matter what. I prefer effort and skill. They win trophies.

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I don't think you read my whole post. First of all, I never mentioned N'gog. He does not have the skill or the high work rate. My point about Kuyt and Lucas is that they are the type of players who do the things that don't necessarily get a lot of credit on the pitch. These type of players are necessary for successful teams who don't have a bankroll like Man City, Chelsea or Real Madrid.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:09:08
I fhink d whole team were awful, but caragher & skrtel dnt deserve 2b in d startin XI.i dnt want john henry 2giv kk nw, he shld wait til d end of d season bcos i dnt fancy our style of play.whether anybody likes it nt we really nid aquilani cos we lack creativity in d midfield & we nid wingers like honda, sanchez, young.In d defence we nid a lb contraeo, cb cahil, shawcross with agger+wilson+ayala.
ed wat do u think
kenny.G 4rm NIGERIA

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WHAT?? ?? ? ?

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 18:01:26
Reina

kelly ayala agger wilson / new signing

lucas mvilla

meireles

suarez young

carroll

realistic team for next season


ffs i'm not being funny but one rubbish performance (as a team might i add) and suddenly your doing away with not only our captain and vice but also mr and mr liverpool! You really think that their the two players holding us back?

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:52:44
3 - 1 loss to west ham I think that I would rather walk alone me thinks irwa

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:58:20
I'm supporting Man U in the F.A cup now. Koscielny, you really are an a*ehole!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:58:43
The last 2 games remind me of the RH era as in a similar manner we picked momentum after Everton Loss and beat Chelsea and Blackburn at Anfield. Then we drew with WIGAN and Lost to STOKE. After that it was home win and Away loss till Carra got injured in White Hart Lane.

Now seriously, is it a coincidence or our players look at the opponent team and went with Overconfidence in those matches to give away the momentum. With the City Draw and the coming Chelsea loss to MANURE, we will have a chance of 4th with the same odds as 2 weeks ago as
Chelsea 2 games 1 Point
Tottenham 2 games 3 points
Man City 2 games 1 point

So come on U REDS, lets take our team forward and not slag them as playing EPL away match after a physical Thursday outing is really challenging and our lads showed they care and will fight for a point

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:47:48
Brilliant, another day slagging of Lucas, don't people get fed up of saying the same thing over and over and over again? I know i get fed up of reading it, 11 players on a pitch but it's all his fault, i don't think he's our best player but for god's sake change the record! ! !

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:34:51
Right now, we have surrounded Kuyt and Lucas with very average players. After the summer window, when we add in some skilled players, we will start to see how valuable these 2 players are to our squad. We must stick by their side and support them through the tough times. YNWA - from Canada

Mark

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Kuyt, Lucas & Ngog are the most avg of the avg players. Guess LFC fans love a hard working tryer no matter what. I prefer effort and skill. They win trophies.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:32:35
To the ED that disagreed that we need 5-6 class players to challenge for the title. Do you still disagree?

I still maintain:
1 x LB
1 x DM
2 x W
1 x CF

5 players at least. Maybe after watching Gerrard of late and with Shelvey not doing it for me, another CM as well. Jordan Henderson will do or C. Adam.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:29:15
27 Feb 2011 16:56:03
{Ed002's Note - Arsenal have been looking for a defensive midfielder, so on that basis alone he would get in.}

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Song is Arse DM. Wenger will never play with a Masch or Lucas type player (no skill just kicking people all game). Judging from today, doesn't seem to help defence in any case. If we attacked and held possesion more, our defense would be less under pressure all game. {Ed001's Note - you could have just left it as Song is Arse and it would have been correct.}
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Didn't know I could be so creative. Agree Song is Arse, but I would still take him over Lucas any day of the week. So that means Lucas must be. .

Who cares if he plays for Brazil. He only plays cause the coach thinks they need another unskillful hardworking deeper player in the Dunga mould. Lucas is the only unskillful Brazilian who is not lazy that he could find. He does nothing for Brazil either, I have seen a few games. Pace is slower, hence he is not caught dwelling on the ball as much. Guess that's why people think he looks good.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:26:38
I fhink d whole team were awful, but caragher & skrtel dnt deserve 2b in d startin XI.i dnt want john henry 2giv kk nw, he shld wait til d end of d season bcos i dnt fancy our style of play.whether anybody likes it nt we really nid aquilani cos we lack creativity in d midfield & we nid wingers like honda, sanchez, young.In d defence we nid a lb contraeo, cb cahil, shawcross with agger+wilson+ayala.
ed wat do u think
kenny.G 4rm NIGERIA

{Ed002's Note - I have deciphered what I could of your post. Forget Aquilani, if he does not move to Juventus his agent will find another club for him. Sanchez is not an option and Coentrao is most unlikely as well. The others remain possible.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:13:04
Both Lucas and Kuyt are the type of players who will do the dirty work for the "stars" around them. They win balls, hustle around the pitch and give a full effort all game. The problem for them is that they are not creative, skillful players. They are both at their best when surrounded by skillful players, and then their contributions will be priceless, allowing space and time for their teammates.

Right now, we have surrounded Kuyt and Lucas with very average players. After the summer window, when we add in some skilled players, we will start to see how valuable these 2 players are to our squad. We must stick by their side and support them through the tough times. YNWA - from Canada

Mark

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:08:39
Looks like Queen Kenny's bubble's burst! Ha Ha Ha LOL
His judgement doen't seem that great now does it, a powder puff front line and a defence with more holes than a Tetley tea bag. £35M for Carroll a tub of lard that's been put on a diet; surely you want him to put weight on, so you can get more of him for the money. LOL LOL LOL

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:04:53
To whoever wrote that Lucas wouldn't get into other teams and that he is that bad, worse than anyone, just remember that in some of thatlast few international games, Lucas has been called up for BRAZIL
You have to be special to play for brazil
I agree that most games he appers to be carp but today he looked awful but as the ed says and so did the live game he was left to face all whu midfielders whilst meiereles went off an sg ran around like a headless chicken trying to get involved in some sort of way

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 17:02:39
27 Feb 2011 16:56:03
{Ed002's Note - Arsenal have been looking for a defensive midfielder, so on that basis alone he would get in.}

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Song is Arse DM. Wenger will never play with a Masch or Lucas type player (no skill just kicking people all game). Judging from today, doesn't seem to help defence in any case. If we attacked and held possesion more, our defense would be less under pressure all game. {Ed001's Note - you could have just left it as Song is Arse and it would have been correct.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:58:58
Reina

kelly ayala agger wilson / new signing

lucas mvilla

meireles

suarez young

carroll

realistic team for next season

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:59:48
I know we as fans feel disappointed with this result, but we must remember that this team was on the brink of a a relegation battle.

It's A good reminder that we are not a top 4 team at the moment.

Sam

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:56:03
{Ed002's Note - Arsenal have been looking for a defensive midfielder, so on that basis alone he would get in.}

I am 110% that Arsenal are not looking for a defensive midfielder. They are looking at centre back, right back and winger.

I think Lucas struggled because he had no support from Gerrard or Meireles and it was 3v1 too many times in the game. I think Gerrard's fitness was the problem there.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:54:26
27 Feb 2011 15:58:41
I ve heard from a reliable source that Yann Mvila will becoming in during the summer along with ricky van wolfswinkel. Taiwo will not be coming to liverpool as he prefers a move to benfica or juve.
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We don't need him. We have 'Super Lucas'. Our best player this season. Just hope we can stop ManU or C, Chelski & Arse from signing him. Sure RealM & Barca are looking too after his wonderful displays this season.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:46:52
I don't agree the fact steven Gerrard has passed his best. I think he had almost five great years left him. He will be influencial as ever and will end his career on top. Remember, Paul scholes has done very well at the start of this season when he was 36. Age is no barrier for Class acts like Stevie G. But, i also feels that he has to shift his position to extend his career. He not needed to run whole length of pitch and just controll the possession in Midfield. He lacks Confidence even he is under Influencual kenny. Belive it or not he will have his best season ever next year.
Indian Red.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:47:25
27 Feb 2011 16:35:39
Jase your bob on . .but also Wilson wasnt up to it. .what peeves me sometimes is when everyone goes on about playin 17 , or 15 year olds. Youth players are great, but that's what they are youth players. some can take 5 years to blood to first team. We'll get it right soon. .anyway hats off to a hard working West Ham and balls to Adam get Parker. Smf

Yeah west ham chose today of all days to play very well. I admire Parker too but he would be difficult to pry away and may be a little old. Agreed we can't start playing very young teenagers- don't wana destroy their confidence but I think there is a case to try kelly or Wilson at cb (Wilson wasn't gd today but was playing out of position and had little help from carra or Cole infront of him) also Pacheco, spearing and possibly 1 or 2 others could b used. I mean why not?!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:50:41
@ indian red, the last gerrard scored in the league was not united in September. It was Blackburn away before the united cup game.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:45:22
Performance today was not good enough, stevie g looks like he needs matches, jc looks over weight, slow and looks like he doesn't know what he's doing. wilson looks like he needs more match time and premier league experiance. ngog just not going to ever be good enough. joe cole needs matches before we can judge him. louis suarez can only be as good as the players around him. kuyt tries his best but just not good enough. would players like kuyt, ngog, jc, skrtel, the greek or maxi get into any other top 6 squad?? that's way too many 1st team squad players that are below standard. KK has his work cut out to rebuild the squad. need a quality cb, two quality wingers, another striker and a top quality utility player who can fill in at 3 or 4 positions like john o sea who notched up his 250th apperance for the spam yesterday.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:45:26
Wonder what fans would be saying if Woy was still in charge. . Since playing Wigan we have been the same boring defensive team we were under Woy. Some of you seem to indicate that Gerrard & Carra are immune from critsism, but is Kenny?

Would love Kenny to explain the 5-3-2 we playing. With Lucas actaully 6 defenders (ok, 5.5 with Lucas as he is carp). Doesnt seem to help the defense and we awful going forward too.

Isnt the LFC way pass and move with attack minded play? Does Kenny just have no conviction in this lot?

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:45:39
In reply to

27 Feb 2011 16:17:17
{Ed002's Note - I am not sure how other teams have spent money is relevant. Benitez spent serious amounts of money and what we see at Liverpool today is a lack of depth. Manchester United and Chelsea are seeing youth players come through who might make it to the first team. Liverpool also have some players beginning to make appearances at the first team level. Ayala looks a good prospect.}

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Which chelsea youngsters would that be then? David Luiz, torres? As for Rafa his net spend was very little, that is he generally spent what he recouped, or made from sales. If given a large amount; say as he was for Torres, he had to recoup from other sales. No argument with Manure they, it must be said, do it right.

Muzmacol YNWA

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What quality youngsters have MU brought through "recently" apart from Fletcher? Gibson, the Brazilian twins (don't think so). All the old guard are just about to retire.

Grayswood

{Ed002's Note: United have Pogba, Morrison, King, Cleverley, Welbeck. Chelsea have Kakuta, McEachran, van Aanholt, Bruma.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:35:39
Jase your bob on . .but also Wilson wasnt up to it. .what peeves me sometimes is when everyone goes on about playin 17 , or 15 year olds. Youth players are great, but that's what they are youth players. some can take 5 years to blood to first team. We'll get it right soon. .anyway hats off to a hard working West Ham and balls to Adam get Parker. Smf

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:36:32
Why single out these 3 when the only half decent performance came the Suarez and Kelly? Maybe because we have seen them so play so well and consistently in the past, SG & JC don't get the criticism they should when they don't turn up - like today? I don't the way certain players are scapegoated.

The truth is 11 of the 13 on the pitch were not good enough today.

Grayswood
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Cause these 3 have been s**te all season and are not good enough for LFC. Oh wait, lucas had 1 decent game in 3 years against Chelsea. I'm bad.

I agree that Gerrard must perform or retire like Carra should.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:28:27
Lucas is not good enough end of - BUT give the guy some credit for running around at least, some - actually most of the players didn't even do that today, we were bad today but he was one of the better bad players oh ps I don't think kelly did his hamstring just a bit embarrassed by his touch ha ha

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:30:05
Ed - Lucas would not get in the Arsenal or man city 25 let alone team, spurs maybe,

geoff {Ed002's Note - Arsenal have been looking for a defensive midfielder, so on that basis alone he would get in.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:30:17
27 Feb 2011 16:01:49
Where the Goal scoring form of Steven Gerrard has gone. He never looked the same player two seasons back. King has to work to get Gerrard to Goal scoring form. Last time he scored in the league was against man u. Gerrard in definitely not in form. If he is in form next season we will be challenging for the Title. Forget Champions league spot, this season only. Indian red

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Keep dreaming Indian Red. Gerrard is past his best and is now in the recurring injury phase of his career (i.e. twilight). .

I say keep: Carroll, Suarez, Meireles, Agger, Johnson, Kelly, Wilson, Shelvey. Buy two class wingers and bring the like of Robinson, Suso, Ince, Coady, Ngoo through. Farm out the rest. They had their chance and were not good enough.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:32:25
Been seeing so many posts saying how bad Lucas is but he's playing better than most of the players in the red shirt at the moment. Joe cole is too hold you can see he's past his best and with the wages he's getting i think it was a terrible signing. Carragher in my opinion looks to slow for the PL now and doesn't even look fit enough to string 3 games in a week together. Gerrard played awful today couldn't string a pass together didn't look sharp enough at all and also i thought Reina's goalkeeping today was poor, beaten easily at the near post adfumbled the ball a few times. Our best players looked like Lucas, Suarez and Kelly before he came off. All 3 of them tried to get the game going looked like they were up for the game and put in a big effort. The rest of the players didn't even look up for it. Just really annoys me when we lose and everybody blames Lucas. The players around him were poor today not him.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:19:49

Muzmacol and the Editor at 27 Feb 2011 16:17:17

"{Ed002's Note - I am not sure how other teams have spent money is relevant. Benitez spent serious amounts of money and what we see at Liverpool today is a lack of depth. Manchester United and Chelsea are seeing youth players come through who might make it to the first team. Liverpool also have some players beginning to make appearances at the first team level. Ayala looks a good prospect.}

= = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Which chelsea youngsters would that be then? David Luiz, torres? As for Rafa his net spend was very little, that is he generally spent what he recouped, or made from sales. If given a large amount; say as he was for Torres, he had to recoup from other sales. No argument with Manure they, it must be said, do it right.

Muzmacol YNWA"

Chelsea have had Josh McEachran, Patrick van Aanholt, Daniel Sturridge, Jeffrey Bruma and Gael Kakuta play in the first team this season.

Sharkey.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:20:06
Our worst player was Wilson, and we need 2 lb, at least 1 cb , 1cm , 2 wingers.Get rid of championship quality players.
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Are you joking mate, did you even watch the game?
1. Wilson was out of position, naturaly he's a CB
2. When he had the ball he passed it well, didn't hoof it away like the amazing CB's that played today.
3. He made more tackles (look at the stats) than skrt and carra put together
4. He's only 18 fhs
some people. . .grrrrr (any thoughts ed?)
Olly

{Ed002's note - I agree, but sadly many fans must have a figure of hate at all times.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:24:33
It seemed as if Meireles, who was playing very well without Gerrard, almost seemed scared to take the game to west ham because stevie was on the pitch

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:26:55
Poor result today, but I think we need to put things into perspective. Gerrard looked off the pace after coming back from his injury, Meireles also looked tired even before his injury (has played alot of games lately in his first season) and Lucas was over run, everytime he closed a midfielder down there was on free in the center. Without Agger at the back we lacked a player who is not only a great defender but starts alot of our attacks, I taught the 3 who started at the back too often looked for the direct option instead of playing it simple and keeping possession, as Agger does. Suarez looked out of sorts at times in his first away day but showed glimpses of his talent, once he is up to pace with the faster and more physical EPL i think we will have a real match winner. So i think with a fully fit squad the score would have been different.
Several first team players need to become no more than squad players for next season, not just based on todays performance. Players like Lucas (Improved but dwells on the ball and i don't think is strong enough or fast enough to be the dominant def mid we need) Skrtel (Not commanding enough, can be bullied by big strikers and questionable decision making at times) and Kuyt (I understand his work rate is priceless at time, great against Chelsea, but to often his touch isn't great, terrible crosser of the ball, and makes simple passes look difficult too often). Ed do you think these players will have a reduced role next year and who, at this moment, look the most likely to replace them? On a completely different subject how does our youth team compare to uniteds for the up coming cup tie? I know we have some great youngsters but just wondering how strong united will be and if we would be favourites?

Irish Red Till Dead {Ed002's Note - As players get older they will have less involvement. Gerrard needs to get his act together. Liverpool have an excellent youth side, as do United.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:13:42
27 Feb 2011 15:51:54
Are ppl serious?!
I'm sick to the back teeth of this Lucas hating. Any1 could see gerrard was horrific- lazy in defence and couldn't complete a pass! Kuyt was shocking, carra is a joke at cb!

Johnson did well, Suarez was lively and Lucas at least tried! Our capt and vice capt should have a gd hard look at themselves! !

Jason

Jason, you sum up the match and the individual performances perfectly.

Cheers mate- Im sure we're all in the same boat with the frustration at being a Liverpool fan- but it gets to me that Lucas takes the brunt of it when others get praised. I hope Kenny doesn't give notice to reputations like some on this site.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:16:27
In response to 27 Feb 2011 15:26:51
Ngog, Not good enough
Kuyt, Not good enough
Lucas, Not good enough

Lets start bringing through some youngsters and see what they can do.

I am not blaming our defeat on just these three players, they was just the poorest on the field in an underachieving team.

Suarez's tricks and turns were the only bright spot in a dismal performance

Red4Ever

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Why single out these 3 when the only half decent performance came the Suarez and Kelly? Maybe because we have seen them so play so well and consistently in the past, SG & JC don't get the criticism they should when they don't turn up - like today? I don't the way certain players are scapegoated.

The truth is 11 of the 13 on the pitch were not good enough today.

Grayswood

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:17:17
{Ed002's Note - I am not sure how other teams have spent money is relevant. Benitez spent serious amounts of money and what we see at Liverpool today is a lack of depth. Manchester United and Chelsea are seeing youth players come through who might make it to the first team. Liverpool also have some players beginning to make appearances at the first team level. Ayala looks a good prospect.}

= = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Which chelsea youngsters would that be then? David Luiz, torres? As for Rafa his net spend was very little, that is he generally spent what he recouped, or made from sales. If given a large amount; say as he was for Torres, he had to recoup from other sales. No argument with Manure they, it must be said, do it right.

Muzmacol YNWA

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:17:21
This season is one I want to rememeber for one reason - the return of the king. I think now it's time to go all out for the europa league and start playing Pacheco, Suso, Sterling, Amoo and all the other promise we have in the league. People like Joe Cole, Skrtel, Lucas, Ngog wont/ shouldnt be at the club next season so try and unearth some youngsters who will be, and sign some players who deserve to be. I don't want the superstars, I want the Carrolls of this world who'll fight for the victory and turn themselves into superstars, IMO people like Matt Jarvis at Wolves, Lee Cattermole at Sunderland, Gary Cahill at Bolton, People will argue and say there not good enough. They are when taught by the right people becuase they have good attitudes. Im gutted we missed out on Adam Hammill. End of the day I want people who want to put the shirt on and fight for it, who know the cause, who know the support of the fans - they will become the best players in the world then because they'll be playing for the best club in the world

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:18:12
Watchd that mess today and a thought the team was a total disgrace, and I'm going get it for saying this but are you's all serious when you's say lucas is or has been or best player this year? If he is our player of the season we are in a worse mess than we thought. He does work hard and a think highly of lucas for getting his head down and trying hard but I'm sorry he isn't liverpool class he isn't half the play that alonso or even masch was so saying he tries hard isn't enough for me sorry he wouldn't get a game for the two teams at the top at the moment. Also a agree with a few other post that carra and stevie g were looking really off today, the did look a bit heavy and Im thinking that KK should maybe see now that 4th spot might not be realistic as a was banking on 6 points from the wigan and west ham game, so is it maybe time to get the youngsters in a get them bedded in for next season, Young Wiltshire is running the mid for arsenal, walcott, there goalie, are all young boys time for KK to go with youth to see who is going cut it next season in the first team squad. Cole, Polusen, maxi, ngog, kyut and all othter dead wood to go time for youth to come in. Any views ed love site by the way.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:12:05
Our worst player was Wilson, and we need 2 lb, at least 1 cb , 1cm , 2 wingers.Get rid of championship quality players.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:12:19
Guess LFC hierachy is regretting not trying harder for a pacy winger in Jan. .
Hope Kenny stops the 3-5-2 (more like 5-3-2) cause since Wigan we have been as bad, boring and defensive as when Hodgson was here.
Guess the Kenny euphoria has gone and we left with all these mid-bottom table players.

When Carroll fit, hopefully back to 4-4-2 - no Lucas, Raul+Stevie in CM and lets play football. If Stevie can't dictate CM, then get someone who can as Raul is better going forward. Playing an extra CD (as Lucas basically sits there all game - so we have 6 defenders actually) is a waste and why we cannot create chances and score more goals. Plus Lucas is absolutely rubbish as does nothing good in anycase.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:11:20
Gerrard should go home put his feet up and watch a replay of todays game, he was shocking lucas was left time and time gain alone in midfield, he looses the ball time and time again but only jogs back watching us under attack, hes living on his name and this is not the 1st time ive said it, i alawys sign as adam h. luis looks really dangerous with his back to goal that's my positive from the game! as for carra i hold my breath every time hes run at, so slow its a joke. i really think its time to start giving coady and suso some minutes. .

adam h

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:05:50
Well see if gerrard back to back best against the mancs if not time to let go , coz if he can't get in the zone anx in hishead effeort Will pay off , Suarez only player who had abit of flair who will take defenders the other way , scotty parker showed gerrard how to run a midfield , Steven needs to take a step back and look athiself to get back to his best , am not blaneing him , its just when times are tough i expext him to step up he is our captain , we might aswell bring tue kids through atleast on the bench you looked at it today we had cole n rodriguez , no offense but not best 2 impaxt players , why not try suso , shelvey , sterling , it can only be a learning curve I would like to see then playi.g and potential this season to see how much we need to invest in the summer , last year we had yossi to bring on , we need creative players who like to do sumik different , I stop have faith I just expect some red blood to be comwing through
Sir hop

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:07:24
It's all well when the team goes on an unbeaten run, but this is Kenny's true test of his management skills - how he's going to muster the troops to stop the rut (5 pts dropped in the last 2 games) particularly with a rumoured carrot of a 2-year contract dangling in front of him

SingRed

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:09:16
Those that are saying gerrard was shocking take a step back; hitzelsperger man marked him the entire game, remember in the world cup when Messi was man marked he looked carp? ?
Olly

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:57:23
{Ed002's note - Ayala went on loan to get experience. I guess your view is to scrap the Academy and spend a couple of hundred million on established players.}

Isn't that how your team does it? Thought so.

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure how other teams have spent money is relevant. Benitez spent serious amounts of money and what we see at Liverpool today is a lack of depth. Manchester United and Chelsea are seeing youth players come through who might make it to the first team. Liverpool also have some players beginning to make appearances at the first team level. Ayala looks a good prospect.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:58:19
To Ed, Lucas was carp, he's no Masch is he (I know you havent said he is), having said that, apart from Saurez showing a lot of promise, the whole team were carp. A question for you Editor, wish you would have names, very un-personal! Do you think that Lfc could be serious title contenders if Lucas was our DM, IF we signed some wingers etc in the summer, do you (and not what kenny has said) think he is good enough for a title challenging team? and, If you do, do you think he would get in any of Chelsea, Mancs spam and chity arsenal and even spurs starting 11?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea how you can bleat about us not using names when you don't even sign your posts.}

sorry it's geoff. lucas question please

geoff

{Ed002's Note - I don't expect that Lucas will leave in the summer except by his own volition. I do however expect a couple of wide players to arrive in the summer and that will certainly provide a lot more options. To challenge for the Premier League title is an entirely different matter of course. Certainly I expect Liverpool to be in the mix with the top three or four places and perhaps it could be as open as this year and there will be a chance of winning it. As for getting in to the other sides, perhaps one or two. He would not get in at Chelsea certainly, probably not at Manchester United. The others maybe.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:59:37
Pathetic performance i thought now kelly injured the game today was as bad as anything ive seen all season

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:00:52
Judging by performances this season it is pretty clear that gerrard and carra are no longer up to the standard we need if we are to compete. All great players reach a point where they start to go downhill and i think this has happend with these two. When ya look at arsenal and utd over the last 10 yrs some great players and club legends have all been shown the door when there sub standard performances started to effect the teams success. ie Henry, Veira, Roy Keane, Van Nistlerooy etc. If Liverpool are to start competing again then Kenny has to make the brave decision to tell the lads they will no longer walk into the starting 11 on reputation alone and if there not happy about it then they may go elsewhere. Im fed up with Gerrard not trying a leg when this are not going well.

N87

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:01:14
Wow Westham were awsome today and deserved t=o win, Scott Parker was outstanding and they did really well defensively; especially closing down Stevie G.
Here's my match ratings: -
Reina - 7 made some good saves but almost did a Robert Green near the end and could have commanded the defenders a bit more.
Carra - 4 ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING, gave the ball away loads by booting it upfield when in plenty of space, should have closed down the man that made the last goal, he also could have helped out wilson more.
Skrtel - 3 didn't make a tackle the whole match, didn't throw his weight around, was invisible and hardly made any good headers away either
Wilson - 7 Promising game, good defensively despite the CB's being dodgy, accurate passing all game and made a few good crosses
Johnson - 6 didn't get into the game too much but he did score a goal
Lucas - 6 okay passing, always forwards but could have made more tackles
Gerrard - 6 some good crosses, passing wassn't at his best (mainly because of superb hitzelsperger).
Joe Cole - 6 cut inside a lot and mad some good passes to midfielders and full backs getting into the game though didn't create any massive chances and could have made himself available to pass to more often
Kuyt - 8 great 1-2's with suarez, some good shots, good crosses and held the ball up excellently however moaned at the ref too much
Ngog - 7 very dangerous looking dribbling, hardly lost the ball and good 1-2's with suarez - well played Ngog after your dodgy performance on thursday
Suarez - 7 dangerous throughout, created the goal,
brought players into the game and had some good shots (Green was outstanding today) but he dived quite a lot and could have shown a bit more strength

Overall, okay in attack, midfield was under too much pressure to make good passes, defence was shocking and gave the ball away too often.
Man of the match - Kuyt/ Ngog/ Suarez/ Wilson! I can't choose.
Olly

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:01:49
Where the Goal scoring form of Steven Gerrard has gone. He never looked the same player two seasons back. King has to work to get Gerrard to Goal scoring form. Last time he scored in the league was against man u. Gerrard in definitely not in form. If he is in form next season we will be challenging for the Title. Forget Champions league spot, this season only. Indian red

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:03:29
Well see if gerrard back to back best against the mancs if not time to let go , coz if he can't get in the zone anx in hishead effeort Will pay off , Suarez only player who had abit of flair who will take defenders the other way , scotty parker showed gerrard how to run a midfield , Steven needs to take a step back and look athiself to get back to his best , am not blaneing him , its just when times are tough i expext him to step up he is our captain , we might aswell bring tue kids through atleast on the bench you looked at it today we had cole n rodriguez , no offense but not best 2 impaxt players , why not try suso , shelvey , sterling , it can only be a learning curve I would like to see then playi.g and potential this season to see how much we need to invest in the summer , last year we had yossi to bring on , we need creative players who like to do sumik different , I stop have faith I just expect some red blood to be comwing through
Sir hop

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 16:03:38
'Charlie Adam will snub Spurs to join boyhood idols Liverpool'. This was in all the press this morning. What can you say about this Ed. I think its very encouraging that he wants to join us. Gerard Mireiles Adams and may be Banega in the middle. I can't wait for next season! {Ed001's Note - he will be joining us because he does not want to move away, he is either just married or just about to get married to a local lass, I forget which. She has no intention of moving away, he will join us because he does not have to move.}

he might be joining because he loves liverpool

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:51:54
Are ppl serious?!
I'm sick to the back teeth of this Lucas hating. Any1 could see gerrard was horrific- lazy in defence and couldn't complete a pass! Kuyt was shocking, carra is a joke at cb!

Johnson did well, Suarez was lively and Lucas at least tried! Our capt and vice capt should have a gd hard look at themselves! !

Jason

Jason, you sum up the match and the individual performances perfectly.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:53:01
The final 30 minutes were much better. If we lose trying then fair enough but the first hour was like we didn't even have to turn up to win. Well done West Ham, with fight and spirit like that you'll stay up

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:53:47
We do need a new centre half, we need two good centre halves, and lets be real if Ayala really was that good he would be starting ahead of Skrtel and wouldn't be on loan in the Championship

Barry B

{Ed002's note - Ayala went on loan to get experience. I guess your view is to scrap the Academy and spend a couple of hundred million on established players.}


My point is if he is really that good he would be in the starting 11! He will probably be sold in the summer. Im already in the horrors so going to play some Fifa at least i get to win something with Liverpool in that!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:53:53
1 cb
1 mf
2 wingers
1 lb
And they have to be proven quality to get the best out of the good players we have such as raul, gerrard, Suarez, Andy.c, Agger, Kelly etc. That boy Luis he is jus awesome Johnson shows good determination, I think Cole and poulsen should be sold as others can be depth in the squad. U peep might not agree but I'm gonna put my neck on the line and say a lost today will only galvanize the team against the scum Suarez will show them way a striker is and after gerrard gettin sent off previously he owes them one.
So all in all bad day at the office but we keep on supporting wat Eva team is put out in the red shirt.

P.s I agree with the ed Lucas was left to deal with their three mids i know he's not world class but trust me quality mid and width and ull see the difference in him

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:42:50
'the whole team just didn't turn up and i hope KK roasts them after that game. Barry'

100% agreed. somehow we always get turned over by relegation threatened sides - wolves, fulham, wigan. classic example portsmouth

SingRed

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:43:17
To Ed, Lucas was carp, he's no Masch is he (I know you havent said he is), having said that, apart from Saurez showing a lot of promise, the whole team were carp. A question for you Editor, wish you would have names, very un-personal! Do you think that Lfc could be serious title contenders if Lucas was our DM, IF we signed some wingers etc in the summer, do you (and not what kenny has said) think he is good enough for a title challenging team? and, If you do, do you think he would get in any of Chelsea, Mancs spam and arsenal and even spurs starting 11?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea how you can bleat about us not using names when you don't even sign your posts.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:43:55
For what each player is capable of the worst player on the pitch was gerrard by far, hope to see him back to his best from next match

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:46:31
Shoot me for saying this but if we still had mascherano we would be far better. when he challenged he got the ball generally. he tracked back he could set up attacks against arsenal he got an assist. he always gave 100%. now not being to critical of lucas and he had to watch a few players but even in the europa league giving away cheap fouls couldn't feature in the attack. shoot me again for saying this but we are going to finish 6th chelsea have 2 games in hand, spurs have 1 game in hand. 5th & 4th aint happening.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:47:07
I was laughed of here the other day by people including the eds when i said i would swap scott parker for lucas anyday. . .

SP gives 100% every game. scores goals. tackles. .sets up chances. .breaks up attacks and leads by example in an awful team. .

If you believe lucas does the above and more i will admit i'm wrong. . But the way i see it Lucas works hard. .gives 100% but passes it off as soon as he gets the chance. .

People will say gerrard misplaced more passes than Lucas today and will probably be correct. but gerrards passes are forward and always attack minded. .would we be happy with gerrard if he made 5 yard passes sideways and backwards?

We were out fought today everywhere on the pitch. the likes of parker, adam, work hard and have ability. .

KK must now know our desperate need for creative players and width. .

My nan can cross the ball better than kuyt. .

My god we still need a busy pre season in the transfer market cos we are an average side at best. .

Dave. .

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:47:49
Changes I would like to see in the summer,

Out - Aurillio 1m, Insua 3m, Skrtel, 8m, Cole 6m, Javanovic 4m, Aqua 14m, Kuyt 9m plus other fringe hoping to recoup £50m.

In - Zhrikov 10m, Kjaar 11m, Adam 7m, Marvoux free, Mata 21m, Christian Eriksen or if not available A Young/ Turan/ Honda/ Bojan pending on preference 14m = Total outlay around 75m - Net transfer cost £25m.

These are only based on what I want to see, viewing previous links to players, personally rated players, and emphasis on reducing the squad age & improving the first 16/ 18 squad players

YOWZER

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:39:34
Wow! What an awfull performance that was totally unexpected. Not one player put in a decent performance in our midfield was outplayed from start to finnish. We are one dimensional to say the least Skirtel seems to have lost all his confidence and was really poor. I think Liverpool need to spend big on at least 3 to 4 world class players. Not 3 to 4 good players but world class or we will fall even further behind our rivals. Ed what are your thoughts on this can we go out and get our hands on 3 to 4 world class players in the summer. {Ed002's Note - "World class" is an over used and subjective term. If you are talking about three or four £30M plus players then it will not happen.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:39:37
Have to agree with the ed. Lucas was up against 3 midfielders today because raul can't tackle(one of his very few weaknesses) and stevie is too lazy to even try. Stevie and carra should never have been brought into the starting line up since their injuries in the first place. But who am i to tell kk what to do. Lucas is not a brilliant player, but he is not a bad one either. On top of that he gives 110% every game and still gets slaughtered for no reason. I have to admit that when he first came to the club he was awful, but he has improved and is 100 times the player now. But i don't think lucas will ever be good enough for some fans no matter what he does, whereas stevie can just stroll up and down the field, give the ball away multiple times and not even try. Then he scores 1 goal or a penalty lucas won and is deemed a hero. Sick of it.
Red bl00ded!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:40:02
Two steps forward one step back. West Ham just wanted it more. Gerrard was poor by his standards and the injuries to Kelly an Meireles disrupted the team. A reality check no more no less. We'll have forgotten this performance after we beat Man U!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:40:47
In other news alexis sanchez has scored 4 so far against palermo

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:40:57
Are ppl serious?!
I'm sick to the back teeth of this Lucas hating. Any1 could see gerrard was horrific- lazy in defence and couldn't complete a pass! Kuyt was shocking, carra is a joke at cb!

Johnson did well, Suarez was lively and Lucas at least tried! Our capt and vice capt should have a gd hard look at themselves! !

Jason

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:41:21
Liverpool Summer Ins:

Adam Johnson
Mata
Adam
Baines
Turan

I Believe these additions willaid in us contending for the title next season. They are all quality player which is what we need and i really don't think they will be too hard to get hold of either. The one i think will be the most difficult will be mata as i think he would want champions league football which of course will will not be able to offer.

The Crow

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:41:40
Well the game today just show's the gulf between Liverpool and the teams above us. That's 5 points we have dropped in 2 games, if we can't beat teams like West Ham and Wigan (no disrespect) what chance have we got against the better teams? Truly shocking display today we only woke up when we got to 75 mins. We need a clear out of the deadwood ASAP the summer window can't come soon enough. .

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:34:48
Well if we play like that next sunday united will h*** us all over the place, absolutely shockin, there were times gerrard didn't look interested, he'd lose the ball the amble back, he shud be bustin a gut to win it back, skrtel was poor, kuyt looked tired, we lost miereles an kelly that did us no favours, cole played alrite tracked back an got forward, suarez played okay, he shud stay on his feet a bit more wen a challenge comes in, unlucky not to score, ngog is rubbish, carra was no-where, we got the usual from johnson, lucas didn't really get the help in midfield from gerrard he needed

basically i feel sorry for the fans who went to london to watch that carp

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:36:24
Clear as hell from today need new centreback wilson is okay but needs more time carragher is past it and skrtel is rubbish agger is our only decent centreback at the club.
we need a new LW cover at LWB and centre mid.

sell
soto
skrtel
joe cole
maxi
jovanovic
poulsen
ngog


bring in
valbuena/ hulk / sanchez/ podolski
cissokho
m'vila/ defour/
kjaer/ cahill/ sahko
wickham/ lukaku

merseyred {Ed002's Note - Again you are forgetting Ayala. And to be fair the support from midfield was near zero.}

Totally agree with ed002 - when West Ham had the ball Gerrard, Lucas and Mierles were poor, watch the goals, their runners were from midfield, except for Carlton Cole's goal which doesn't count.

{Ed002's Note - Tactically it went wrong with, as Ed001 said, Lucas left on his own. There was space in front of the Liverpool penalty area that WHU were wandering in to at will. This is the fault of the coaching staff and no doubt something they will look to rectify.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:37:13
Clear as hell from today need new centreback wilson is okay but needs more time carragher is past it and skrtel is rubbish agger is our only decent centreback at the club.
we need a new LW cover at LWB and centre mid.

sell
soto
skrtel
joe cole
maxi
jovanovic
poulsen
ngog


bring in
valbuena/ hulk / sanchez/ podolski
cissokho
m'vila/ defour/
kjaer/ cahill/ sahko
wickham/ lukaku

merseyred {Ed002's Note - Again you are forgetting Ayala. And to be fair the support from midfield was near zero.}


We do need a new centre half, we need two good centre halves, and lets be real if Ayala really was that good he would be starting ahead of Skrtel and wouldn't be on loan in the Championship

Barry B

{Ed002's note - Ayala went on loan to get experience. I guess your view is to scrap the Academy and spend a couple of hundred million on established players.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:34:18
Re this post. . . .

To the ed who said they would never take Scott Parker and would rather Lucas then him can you still say that after watching the match? We are absolutely shocking and its hard to watch. Every single one of our players are brutal today. We need a whole new back line {Ed001's Note - Lucas is facing 3 of their midfielders, while Scott Parker and his cronies are facing just Lucas. I don't understand how you can compare the two, it is easy for Parker, while it is a nightmare for Lucas. Have you ever tried facing a 3 man midfield as the only midfielder bothering to try?}

On the basis of today (only) I would take Parker over Gerrard, not Lucas. SG only started to try in the last 15 minutes today and looked so out of sorts.

Suarez attitude was one of the very few positives today. Very poor performance and comparable to the Sparta game which we were lucky to win. It gives us a reminder of the scale of the changes required. KK and SC couldn't believe what was going on on the pitch.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:34:25
Hi ed would u like this next season
reina
kelly
kejer
agger
heinze
hazard
gerrard
martinez
ganso
suarez
carroll

{Ed002's Note - It is simply fantasy football - players like Hazard and Ganso are not going to move to Liverpool. Get used to it.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:34:29
Hi ed, do you think the aura of kk has worn off now, i expected them to come out second half and make a fight of it, {Ed002's Note - No - there are going to be poor performances. People will come back from injury and there may even be a cameo from Carroll next week. Dalglish got it wrong today - just one of those games.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:28:21
ED its 11 v 11. Parker grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck and has pisd all over our midfield. If Lucas was a demanding centre midfielder he would do the exact same thing. Saying that everyone up until the goal has been bad, if we get a draw out of this its still a bad result, if we want to be in europe next season we will have to be going to teams like West Ham and mopping the floor with them. i don't know what it is with our defence we always seem to struggle against big centre forwards {Ed001's Note - rubbish, you clearly have no understanding of the game, Parker grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck because he had help. Lucas has had absolutely no help whatsoever and has been running around trying to cover 3 player's runs. It was bad enough while Raul was on the pitch, but it has got even worse without him.}


I've no understanding of the game? Your the one that rates Lucas as a world beater. Can you not just admit that parker and West Ham played good today and destroyed us in the middle and played well together as a team. Suarez had a decent game today but the whole team just didn't turn up and i hope KK roasts them after that game.

Barry

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:28:29
Bit of perspective please. Very poor today and not great performance nor the two europa games. However 1 defeat in 8. Roy gone, better football (generally), 2 top strikers not gelled in yet. I imagine there will be several departures in may. If 'the people' is to be believed KK will be offere two yr deal. So yes poor today, but lets not go overboard.

Muzmacol YNWA

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:28:39
Midfield lost it today. . poor tackling, no tracking back for the West Ham goals - Mierles was poor today in the tackle and tracking back. Lucas had one of his poor games as well. . Gerrard was not his normal self, slow at times. .

Plus side, Suarez looked good and took two good saves form Rob Green to keep him out, plus what a turn to set up the goal! Best thing on the pitch the whole game. .

Think this is the kick up the butt we need to understand it's about hard work for 90+ mins. Just because you go 8 matches unbeaten you won't lose your next. sloppy and careless. .

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:28:42
LOL ed, i agree with you about the hodgson thing, obviously by bloods boiling atm.!
got all the basics wrong. passing was ridiculous at times. wonderful move by suarez but apart from that, i just can't seem to draw any positives from that performance.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:28:58
Think the youth team would give a better challenge to west ham they playing better football then this crap

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:30:05
I think our biggest problem was not having anyone with an aerial threat up front, as we kept launching longballs up to them, once andy carrol is fit i believe it will make a massive difference. Didn't rate the Kings formation though if im honest, it left lucas with too much to do.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:30:19
Skrtel is horrible and should go. He can only perform well if he is played beside Agger and that is not good enough. I agree that Gerrard didn't contribute enough but he just came back from injury and he does this almost evey time he is coming back from injury. But our defence has to be held responsible for the goals we have conceded. The team on a whole needs to improve their concentration.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:30:39
Well i think the maximum we will finish this season is 5th. Although we were unlucky to lose kelly and merieles, we gave the ball away too often. At the end of the day, west ham wanted the points more and it showed on the pitch. Roll on the spam.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:31:58
Skyrtl (spelling) was shocking today and has been all year. I'll be amazed if he is still in the squad at the beginning of next season.

I know injuries didn't help today but for me, Cole/ Skyrtl/ Kuyt/ Ngog are just simply not good enough. . .

What does everyone else think?

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:32:17
This season is one I want to rememeber for one reason - the return of the king. I think now it's time to go all out for the europa league and start playing Pacheco, Suso, Sterling, Amoo and all the other promise we have in the league. People like Joe Cole, Skrtel, Lucas, Ngog wont/ shouldnt be at the club next season so try and unearth some youngsters who will be, and sign some players who deserve to be. I don't want the superstars, I want the Carrolls of this world who'll fight for the victory and turn themselves into superstars, IMO people like Matt Jarvis at Wolves, Lee Cattermole at Sunderland, Gary Cahill at Bolton, People will argue and say there not good enough. They are when taught by the right people becuase they have good attitudes. Im gutted we missed out on Adam Hammill. End of the day I want people who want to put the shirt on and fight for it, who know the cause, who know the support of the fans - they will become the best players in the world then because they'll be playing for the best club in the world

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:25:54
Clear as hell from today need new centreback wilson is okay but needs more time carragher is past it and skrtel is rubbish agger is our only decent centreback at the club.
we need a new LW cover at LWB and centre mid.

sell
soto
skrtel
joe cole
maxi
jovanovic
poulsen
ngog


bring in
valbuena/ hulk / sanchez/ podolski
cissokho
m'vila/ defour/
kjaer/ cahill/ sahko
wickham/ lukaku

merseyred {Ed002's Note - Again you are forgetting Ayala. And to be fair the support from midfield was near zero.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:26:06
For how s**t the rest of the team was saurez was good just a positive from the game :

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:26:12
Never mind criticising Lucas look at kuyt, absolutely awful today, and I don't care how hard he works,

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:26:49
Looks like this result has brought us back down to earth with a bump! We was all getting carried away with the return of KK etc. Thinking we was going to stroll into fourth place!

WHU was never going to be a easy game, no bottom team will be they are playing for survival in the EPL. We just didn't take the game serious enough.

Lee73

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:26:51
Ngog, Not good enough
Kuyt, Not good enough
Lucas, Not good enough

Lets start bringing through some youngsters and see what they can do.

I am not blaming our defeat on just these three players, they was just the poorest on the field in an underachieving team.

Suarez's tricks and turns were the only bright spot in a dismal performance

Red4Ever

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:27:03
Joke joke joke
Carlton cole scores and any team deserves to lose
I'm appalled and I have realised that most of our carp squad needs to go y offer dirk a new contract he runs and that's it

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:27:28

Reina was a disgrace trying to get a fellow pro booked.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:25:38
Wish that was sexy from suarez lol

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:24:59
THE WORST LIVERPOOL PERFORMANCE OF THE SEASON. i mean how the fok can you lose to west ham with gerrard, miereles, suarez, kuyt, carra, reina?
i know we've lost shape and some of these players are getting old but can west ham outplay us because of that. ridiculous.
just when tottenham drop 3 points aswell. fml
at the end of the day though, there still is a golden sky, just really hard to spot one atm.
YNWA
a passionate but pissed off liverpool fan {Ed001's Note - you clearly never watched any match with Hodgson in charge if you think that was the worst performance of the season.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:23:16
27 Feb 2011 15:17:30
Well that settles that no champions league next season people we just have to hold on to 6th we need 2 top wingers, cm, lb, totaly out classed today think time for gerrard to move on what you say ed? Think madrid still wants him.

***********
Time for Gerrard to move on! behave you mug! !

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:21:18
I cannot wait to play you on the weekend.

Sydney!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:21:22
Can anyone see reina staying when he has to watch that?

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:21:29
Same old liverpool. Just when u think weve turned a corner we get beaten by a relgation threatened team. Dejva vous.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:19:13
ED its 11 v 11. Parker grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck and has pisd all over our midfield. If Lucas was a demanding centre midfielder he would do the exact same thing. Saying that everyone up until the goal has been bad, if we get a draw out of this its still a bad result, if we want to be in europe next season we will have to be going to teams like West Ham and mopping the floor with them. i don't know what it is with our defence we always seem to struggle against big centre forwards {Ed001's Note - rubbish, you clearly have no understanding of the game, Parker grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck because he had help. Lucas has had absolutely no help whatsoever and has been running around trying to cover 3 player's runs. It was bad enough while Raul was on the pitch, but it has got even worse without him.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:19:31
27 Feb 2011 15:12:30
Ed your ridiculous over rating of Lucas is becoming embarrassing and it will ultimately lead to you losing any credibility you have left {Ed001's Note - over rating? Watch the game and listen to people who actually know something about footie instead of Sky pundits and you might learn something.}
- - - - - - - - - - -
I am watching the game and I don't take any notice of any pundits. Are you suggesting that I should listen to you?? Do you know more than me? ? {Ed001's Note - no I am saying you should listen to people like Dalglish who rates Lucas.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:17:30
Well that settles that no champions league next season people we just have to hold on to 6th we need 2 top wingers, cm, lb, totaly out classed today think time for gerrard to move on what you say ed? Think madrid still wants him.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:13:51
CCCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE OOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN A POINT FROM THIS s**t GAME WOULDNT BE THE END OF THE WORLD

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:12:30
Ed your ridiculous over rating of Lucas is becoming embarrassing and it will ultimately lead to you losing any credibility you have left {Ed001's Note - over rating? Watch the game and listen to people who actually know something about footie instead of Sky pundits and you might learn something.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:11:31
Ed how s**te are we playin to be getting beat by west ham , when we don't even look like scoring

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:12:06
One of those days , West Ham deserve the win.Think we are expecting too much considering where we were about 2 months ago? Cheer up. ;-)

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:11:05
Whys everyone blaming gerrard?. He's just come back from injury and people expect to be 100% and make a miracle happen! {Ed001's Note - I expect him to try, he is only trying when it is in the opponent's half and strolling around when it is in our half. Not good enough.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:09:31
SORRY - THERE IS JUST NOTHING THERE - ELEVEN LEAGUE DEFEATS - DEFEAT BY THE BOTTOM OF THE LEAGUE - IT'S TIME TO GET RID OF THE DROSS! !
WE CAN'T GET RELEGATED SO LET'S BRING IN SOME OF THE YOUNGSTERS - WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BRING THEM ALL IN AT ONCE - A COUPLE EVERY MATCH WOULD BE IDEAL - NOT N'GOG THOUGH - HE CONTINUES TO PROVE THAT HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Mal 23

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:06:28
I think Liverpool have single handily kept the relegation battle alive, anyone down the bottom must be hoping they have us on their fixture list run in!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:06:45
To the ed who said they would never take Scott Parker and would rather Lucas then him can you still say that after watching the match? We are absolutely shocking and its hard to watch. Every single one of our players are brutal today. We need a whole new back line {Ed001's Note - Lucas is facing 3 of their midfielders, while Scott Parker and his cronies are facing just Lucas. I don't understand how you can compare the two, it is easy for Parker, while it is a nightmare for Lucas. Have you ever tried facing a 3 man midfield as the only midfielder bothering to try?}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:07:02
Fail to see what cole offers. as for ngog

muzmacol ynwa

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:03:52
Hey id like to ask the eds a question. . from realistic red! !

i know the owners will spend to improve the team. but do u believe as i do that the current team have won purely out of fight. and tactics. .and luck. .
and that games like this when u have better players will exploit liverpool real weaknesses?

because with our squad. id say we are about 8-9th best team in the league . .roughly. {Ed001's Note - the problem is that we brought back Gerrard and Carragher and neither are good enough right now. The team has been weakened by trying to play through a fat man in midfield who was once brilliant but is unable to pass the ball right now to a team mate. We have been left with Lucas trying to do everything against 3 men in midfield today.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 15:03:53
Hope KK has the balls to take Gerrard off an give him a good kick up the ar$e. K3

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:58:11
West Ham taking the piss at the moment!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:57:37
We are losing the ball way too much which is allowing west ham to own us.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:56:08
Has Gerrard got that fat and this bad in three weeks or so?

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:54:32
Crap man Liverpool losin to west ham man it sux! ! ! !

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:51:38
There was a time when I'd back them to win from this position. . . long long time ago.
Wish those days would return, but I just can't see where the goals will come from.
2 best players off injured , where do we go from here.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:50:40
Parker and Hitzlberger have absoloutly hammered Lucas and Gerrard today! !

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:50:18
They don't seem up fpr it at all

muzmacol ynwa

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:49:36
I can't see how there isn't going to be a revolving door of players this summer. The 'senior' players are not good enough, skrtel, lucas, kuyt for all his efforts, cole etc

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:49:46
Who is shouting at Carragher about his performance this afternoon? Carragher and Wilson are too close to each other and there are gaps everywhere in defence.

We are just hoofing the ball up the field and hoping and West Ham are just picking us off. The final ball into the box has been woeful. We are playing about the only game Upson and Tomkins can deal with.

Grayswood

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:44:23
Ed, i can't able 2 watch the match today. .
are there any changes in the line up @ half time?
why are the losing? ?>>>>>>

worried LFC FAN. . .>>>>

{Ed002's Note - I don't know about changes but the team is deservedly losing. Perhaps a better second half.}

>>>>Its been normal for liverpool losing, since roy n rafa days. . .

hmmmmmmmmm

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:39:47
Y ngog for meireles he is injured but maxi or anyone not ngog
The afternoon is now surely over

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:38:20
Ed, i can't able 2 watch the match today. .
are there any changes in the line up @ half time?
why are the losing? ?>>>>>>

worried LFC FAN. . .>>>>

{Ed002's Note - I don't know about changes but the team is deservedly losing. Perhaps a better second half.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:32:14
Crap we deserve to come away with nothing gerrard got fat
Carra too slow
Kelly injured hammy gone
Lucas is rubbish I'll get slaughtered for that
Suarez+kuyt had nothing to do or work with
Johnson too slow in decisions and a carp defender
Ripped up in the midfield and 3 at the back with 3 or most of their team attacking doesn't work and Joe cole has come on the make things worse
Can't believe it
Kenny should kick em all up the arse and go mental {Ed001's Note - Lucas is the only midfielder doing anything, why are you whinging about him when Gerrard and Meireles have left him to face 3 Hammers midfielders?}

Lucas is caught between players all the time, if he's trying to pick the slack up for other players why doesn't he stand on the man he's meant to and give a bollocking to those around him not doing there job! the guy is s**ep. Im sure Gerrard and Meireles are looking to push forward seeing as we have 5 f'ing defenders. time for a shuffle kk {Ed002

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:30:56
I think we'll hav to stick to "stealin" the ball off'em ha ha

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:31:26
Regarding this post. . .

Does Wilson realise we're playing in White? He looks awful, send him back to scotland {Ed001's Note - he has played fairly well, one bad touch is all, but he made 3 excellent challenges, stop whining about a young lad on his debut.}

Where exactly was Wilson for the second goal? The communication between Wilson and JC is not there. They are leaving the ball to each other. I guess that is the risk of a debut. We are really missing Agger. Our best player is now off the pitch - assuming that is a bad hamstring tear, he could be out for several weeks.

SG has sleep-walked through the half - he has not challenged for a single ball or tackled that I can remember. Suarez has not had a sniff. Meireles looks bushed after the Sparta game.

I can't see where the change will happen for us either with the players on the pitch or on the bench. Hitzlberger and Parker are running midfield and that's where it is going wrong for us. Great goal by Parker though.

Grayswood

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:31:52


27 Feb 2011 14:24:05
Crap we deserve to come away with nothing gerrard got fat
Carra too slow
Kelly injured hammy gone
Lucas is rubbish I'll get slaughtered for that
Suarez+kuyt had nothing to do or work with
Johnson too slow in decisions and a carp defender
Ripped up in the midfield and 3 at the back with 3 or most of their team attacking doesn't work and Joe cole has come on the make things worse
Can't believe it
Kenny should kick em all up the arse and go mental {Ed001's Note - Lucas is the only midfielder doing anything, why are you whinging about him when Gerrard and Meireles have left him to face 3 Hammers midfielders?}
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His first touch is rubbish
And as I mentioned gerrard got fat and can't get back from up/ down the pitch and Melrose has had nothing a few touches but never any space to play
I can only think that maybe with andy Carroll on we may have had a bit more extra space and a big tagged to aim at

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:27:57
Gerrard playing awful

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:28:01
Gerrard is making poulsen look good
Agger is so missed
Suarez no service
Maxi should have come on

I am literally a goal away from crying but Liverpool being Liverpool I'm gonna wait till the fat lady sing

P.s. definitely 1 penalty should have been awarded

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:25:17
Ha Ha. . .even BA able 2 score>>>>

Come on you Suarez

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:25:17
Ha Ha. . .even BA able 2 scoe>>>>

Come on you Suarez

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:23:56
This is it kenny. Show us ya money

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:24:05
Crap we deserve to come away with nothing gerrard got fat
Carra too slow
Kelly injured hammy gone
Lucas is rubbish I'll get slaughtered for that
Suarez+kuyt had nothing to do or work with
Johnson too slow in decisions and a carp defender
Ripped up in the midfield and 3 at the back with 3 or most of their team attacking doesn't work and Joe cole has come on the make things worse
Can't believe it
Kenny should kick em all up the arse and go mental {Ed001's Note - Lucas is the only midfielder doing anything, why are you whinging about him when Gerrard and Meireles have left him to face 3 Hammers midfielders?}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:24:13
Very poor first half, no interest and second to the ball.Gerrard is out for a stroll and Suarez is on his own.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:24:33
Posted an hour ago:
with all due respect ed, i think the way our defence has being playing we won't leak 2 goals today

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:24:59
Carra and gerrard both looked quite over-weighted and Suarez seem to have been begging to Liverpool to make sure, he gets the ball. Passing has been just horrible, every 2nd touch seems to be of west ham player. Doesn't look like, we are coming back of here. Hope, I am wrong and we get a win. . .

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:23:56
This is it kenny. Show us ya money

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:24:05
Carp we deserve to come away with nothing gerrard got fat
Carra too slow
Kelly injured hammy gone
Lucas is rubbish I'll get slaughtered for that
Suarez+kuyt had nothing to do or work with
Johnson too slow in decisions and a carp defender
Ripped up in the midfield and 3 at the back with 3 or most of their team attacking doesn't work and Joe cole has come on the make things worse
Can't believe it
Kenny should kick em all up the apse and go mental

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:24:13
Very poor first half, no interest and second to the ball.Gerrard is out for a stroll and Suarez is on his own.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:24:33
Posted an hour ago:
with all due respect ed, i think the way our defence has being playing we won't leak 2 goals today

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:24:59
Carra and gerrard both looked quite over-weighted and Suarez seem to have been begging to Liverpool to make sure, he gets the ball. Passing has been just horrible, every 2nd touch seems to be of west ham player. Doesn't look like, we are coming back of here. Hope, I am wrong and we get a win. . .

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:21:02
Not a shred of desire in the team

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:21:20
To all those who say lucas is top player and has been our best player seriously get a grip open your eyes he is CARP. . gerrard carragher cole all past it feel sorry for kelly he was our only shining light.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:21:35
For liverpool to be playing so shocking, knowing that with a win they can be 3 points for chelski. I think its awful.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:22:21
{Ed002's Note - 3-2 to Liverpool}

with all due respect ed, i think the way our defence has being playing we won't leak 2 goals today, however a win is a win so i hope your right in that respect =)

- eating my words now sorry ed. really do hope your right with your prediction!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:22:34
If one person mentions how we were tired after playing in europe im gonna have a fit. honestly, top sides deal with stuff like this, i guess we just are not a top side yet. shame about kelly too, really gutted. im just gonna wait for man united cause this game is just horrible.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:22:39
Their midfield is bossing this game. . We got to get to some steal in there as it is weak in this game. . {Ed002's Note - I think you probably mean "steel".}

No he's a Scouser so 'Steal' is about right, what's happening lads? three players have already had knocks, Gerrard & Carra have been munching too many pies and not even your five man defense can keep the goals out, looking forward to the weekend.

Sydney!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:14:24
27 Feb 2011 14:01:12
Just like to say Lucas averages a tackle every 17 minutes and 26 seconds this year. The quickest in the PL

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A nice thing to say .

1977
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It's such a shame that so many of those tackles result in free kicks around our own box! Do you have the stats for how many times he's given the ball away today? He is carp

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:17:17
What the hell is going on. get carragher off the pitch. right now. hes pathetic. sos 'stevie G' hardly a captain.
disgusting.

JJ

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:17:29
Watching todays game, makes me remember of nothing but Roy Hodgson. We are really playing as bad as possible. passing looks s**t and nothing seems to have any impact on us. Should turn it off as its 2-0 now. Just can't believe what I am watching. . :(

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:17:58
with all due respect ed, i think the way our defence has being playing we won't leak 2 goals today, however a win is a win so i hope your right in that respect =)
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Are you thinking again about calling out the ED?

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:18:41
Whats happening here were being ripped apart fs that defending was shocking !

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:18:42
2-0 hammers. Ed, right now i hope your 3-2 prediction comes true, although i doubt it. West ham deserve their lead. Have we even had a shot on goal?
Red bl00ded!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:18:44
2-0 hammers. Ed, right now i hope your 3-2 prediction comes true, although i doubt it. West ham deserve their lead. Have we even had a shot on goal?
Red bl00ded!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:19:01
Pathetic, clueless, no fight. come on kenny give em a h***ing roasting.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:19:10
Can't say I've seen gerrard burst into a sprint this half.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:20:49
Hey lfc fans. .

im haing trouble viewing the game online. .
but i guess losing easily to the worst team in the prem kinda makes up my mind to watch.

liverpool fc. .work hard and play amazing against man u. .chelsea. arsenal. .

but up against blackpool or wigan. and now west ham. .ruuuuubbbbbbbbbbbbbish

thats why fergie is a genius. he makes his average players perform against poor or tough teams. .

livpool seriously suck. and will continue to do so

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:12:16
Carra and gerrard have been awful! unless they lose some weight and start playing properly they shouldn't be on the bench! Is it just me or have we been better without them?

maka

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:07:23
Their midfield is bossing this game. . We got to get to some steal in there as it is weak in this game. . {Ed002's Note - I think you probably mean "steel".}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:08:27
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbiiiiiiiiiissssssssssssssssshhhhhh

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:06:28
I think this first 30 mins confirms my opinion of Parker being a far better player than Lucas and i stand by my word in saying he would be our best midfield option in the summer!

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 14:01:12
Just like to say Lucas averages a tackle every 17 minutes and 26 seconds this year. The quickest in the PL

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A nice thing to say .

1977

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 13:58:22
Does Wilson realise we're playing in White? He looks awful, send him back to scotland {Ed001's Note - he has played fairly well, one bad touch is all, but he made 3 excellent challenges, stop whining about a young lad on his debut.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 13:59:46
West ham ripping us a new one early on. Didnt see this coming. . Am i the only one who thinks that we've been poorer since gerrard and carra returned? I probably am, but i know for a fact we havent been better.
Red bl00ded! {Ed001's Note - I agree, both look overweight and both have been very poor.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 13:37:13
Just like to say Lucas averages a tackle every 17 minutes and 26 seconds this year. The quickest in the PL

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 13:43:20
Hopefully a good solid performance with a clean sheet and couple of goals! Good luck to wilson as it is his chance to impress us, hopefully suarez can grab one or two today and may meireles scoring spree continue! ;)

I'm going 3-1 Liverpool, Meireles opening, Piquonne equalising and Suarez bagging two to get us the 3 points!

What are your predictions ED?

E.H LFC

{Ed002's Note - 3-2 to Liverpool}

with all due respect ed, i think the way our defence has being playing we won't leak 2 goals today, however a win is a win so i hope your right in that respect =)

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 13:33:05
27 Feb 2011 13:11:59
I hope D Wilson really makes his mark today! He, Kelly are our future at centre back with Coady coming in when Carra retires. No rush though as the Agger, Skrtel & Carra back line is wonderful. With Ayala & Kyrgiakos as cover we are okay in that position.

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Coady is a midfielder. He used to be a centre-back but he converted to a midfielder two or three years back.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 13:22:09
Hopefully a good solid performance with a clean sheet and couple of goals! Good luck to wilson as it is his chance to impress us, hopefully suarez can grab one or two today and may meireles scoring spree continue! ;)

I'm going 3-1 Liverpool, Meireles opening, Piquonne equalising and Suarez bagging two to get us the 3 points!

What are your predictions ED?

E.H LFC

{Ed002's Note - 3-2 to Liverpool}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 13:17:48
Any news on where wilson is going to play? is he being used as a centre back (with kelly and johnson as wingbacks) or an attacking full back with kelly at CB.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 13:10:52
The Liverpool team in full is: Reina, Johnson, Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Wilson, Lucas, Gerrard, Meireles, Kuyt, Suarez. Subs: Gulacsi, Kyrgiakos, Cole, Poulsen, Spearing, Maxi, Ngog.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 13:11:59
I hope D Wilson really makes his mark today! He, Kelly are our future at centre back with Coady coming in when Carra retires. No rush though as the Agger, Skrtel & Carra back line is wonderful. With Ayala & Kyrgiakos as cover we are okay in that position.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 13:07:15
I would take Fowler back on a pay as you play contract at least for the rest of this season he could be especially useful in Europa league. Agree/ disagree

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:42:56
Ed. . Do you know what the team will be 2day against west ham {Ed001's Note - it is already up on the official site mate.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:44:32
How do u think defence will line-up?

Kelly Carragher Skrtel
Johnson Wilson

OR

Carragher Skrtel Wilson
Kelly Johnson

agree for first one, disagree for second. .

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:45:41
Maybe I'm stating the obvious, or it's possible it just doesn't work in England. . but I ALWAYS watch the games on ATDHENET.tv I have a Mac and live in NY, and this seems to be the best source of live games for me. Right now there's only one link to the LFC game, but usually by the time the game is at the half, they add a couple more links. YNWA! !

Dbradley

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:40:22
Fantastic team today! no skrtel! or poulsen or ngog quality! pace power skill

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:36:26
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27 Feb 2011 12:31:43
Am i reading it wrong or does it say konchesky i thought we got rid of him! !

Reina, Johnson, Konchesky, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Lucas, Gerrard, Cole, Maxi, Ngog, Torres. Subs: Gulacsi, Agger, Kelly, Kuyt, Poulsen, Babel, Jovanovic.

We're gonna get beat and thougt we'd sold babel
What in gods name is wrong with you?

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:37:43
Reina, Johnson, Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Wilson, Lucas, Gerrard, Meireles, Kuyt, Suarez. Subs: Gulacsi, Kyrgiakos, Cole, Poulsen, Spearing, Maxi, Ngog.
team v w.ham

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:33:56
The Liverpool team in full is: Reina, Johnson, Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Wilson, Lucas, Gerrard, Meireles, Kuyt, Suarez. Subs: Gulacsi, Kyrgiakos, Cole, Poulsen, Spearing, Maxi, Ngog.

Thats more like it

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:31:43
Am i reading it wrong or does it say konchesky i thought we got rid of him! ! !

Reina, Johnson, Konchesky, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Lucas, Gerrard, Cole, Maxi, Ngog, Torres. Subs: Gulacsi, Agger, Kelly, Kuyt, Poulsen, Babel, Jovanovic.

We're gonna get beat and thougt we'd sold babel

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:22:57
Oh right cheers ed, didn't know that, I'll be shouting for Arsenal then.

Any early news on todays team, ed or anyone

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:25:53
Why are all you guys saying sell soto? He's a good player and he gives it his all! Didn't you see him on thursday? Started bleeding twice, got some stitches and a bit of damp wool and still came back on to finish the game! I know from experience how much it hurts To have stitches when you accidentally have a clash of heads and for soto to come back and give it his all just shows what he means to the club! He's learned more about the ethos of the club with more depth and understanding than other players! He should be held in the same brackets as Carragher, Gerrard, Kuyt and Kelly. The players that give it all on the pitch!

lil_elf

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:27:09
Hi guys, just wondered if any of u had a link for the match this afternoon?

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Everyone is downloading Google Chrome and installing the 'Free live football extension' and watching it there .

or try - vipstand.com {Ed002's Note - Details below (thanks to Red Lenin:}

HOW TO WATCH LIVERPOOL ON THE INTERNET
1. Install the browser Google Chrome.

2. Look in the top right (your right) corner and you will see a spanner.

3. Click on the spanner and select 'tools'.

4. Click on extensions

5. At the bottom right (as you look at it) you will see 'Get More Extensions >>'. Select this.

6. In the search box type 'Chrome Live Football' and search.

7. Click on Chrome Live Football and then click on install. (it may download to a holding file in the bottom left as you look at it, in which case as soon as it's finished click there, but mostly it will install itself)

8. A small football will then appear in the top right (as you look at it). Click on that, select 'live stream' and reset the clock to GMT and it will list all the live games available all over europe and other places.

You may occasionally need to install other programmes or the link you pick will only work on Explorer (in which case cut and paste the URL into Explorer), but you will always get every Liverpool match (or any other). Sometimes you will only be able to find it with foreign commentary and sometimes you will get it in English. You'll get about thirty links and you may have to look through a lot of them to get what you want. You will also get most La Liga matches, Greek matches, Italian matches and French matches as well as top matches from South America.

Someone also asked about viruses etc. Google Chrome is actually far more secure than Internet Explorer so the risks are considerably less, but you should have decent virus/spyware programmes and run sweeps regularly as a matter of course.

The quality will also depend on the speed of your internet connection. If you have super-speed and have a modern HD TV, consider connecting your PC to the TV via the PC socket on the side/ back.

Cut and paste the above into a document and save it for future reference.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 12:05:36
{Ed002's Note - Arsenal will be qualifying for one of the four Champions League places. A Europa Cup place goes to the winner of the FA Cup and League Cup. Therefore, if Arsenal win the League Cup today, sixth place in the league becomes available for next season's Europa Cup. The same will be true for the FA Cup - if Manchester United, for example, win it, then seventh place opens up to the Europa Cup.}

Don't England have 2 Europa League Places for the league anyway? (i.e. 5th & 6th plus FA and League Cup)

{Ed002's Note - No. Only one for fifth place.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 11:25:22
{Ed002's Note - It is critical for Liverpool that Arsenal win today.}

Why?

{Editor's Note: Arsenal will be qualifying for one of the four Champions League places. A Europa Cup place goes to the winner of the FA Cup and League Cup. Therefore, if Arsenal win the League Cup today, sixth place in the league becomes available for next season's Europa Cup. The same will be true for the FA Cup - if Manchester United, for example, win it, then seventh place opens up to the Europa Cup.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 10:29:59
Hodgson always used to make the excuse that he has inherited the squad & hasn't had the oppotunity to put his stamp on it. KK has inherited the same squad & has an amazing record. So I believe that NESV believe in KK & will back him in the transfer market so that he can put his stamp on the squad. If KK's results thus far are any indication to go by, we could be challenging for the title as early as next year.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 10:33:28
Hi guys, just wondered if any of u had a link for the match this afternoon? ?

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 10:09:20
Ed do you think there is any chance of Carroll playing a part today. {Ed002's Note - No, I think it is most unlikely.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 10:11:15
Hey ed.

Just wondering what chance you give of the current youth squad actually making it into the first team. there is a lot of talk about this group of youngsters being the best in years with the likes of Sterling, Coady and Suso. With our youth team having won the Fa youth cup twice in the last five years and currently having no one but spearing in the first team squad from these winning teams is it really likely we will see this crop of youth team players in the first team in the coming years? what are your thoughts on this ed?

lots of love
Hamish

{Ed002's Note - The reserve and academy teams contain some undoubted talent and I am confident a few will make the grade at Liverpool. Others will go on to do well elsewhere.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 10:12:22
I never rated Joe Cole but if KK sees him as a bonus then so do I. KK has proven himself & I think that Liverpool are unbeaten in 8 games under his management & have only allowed 1 goal (offside against wigan) in the last six.
Apparently KK is keen to give Cole playing time. My concern is that if we bring in players like Gervinho & Young in addition to Cole, the likes of Pacheco, Suso & Sterling etc will be pushed further down the pecking order.
I think Pacheco needs playing time now. As for Suso & Sterling, we should slowly introduce them so that they gain momentum as first team players over the next year & a half. All 3 may very well be regular starters in 18 months to 2 years.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 10:26:24
"{Ed002's Note - At last we have a poster who understands Liverpool's finances}"

LOL! !
Excelente! I Loooooove this site!
But seriously though, ed, what was that? Lol! Couldn't make head or tail or even elbow or knee of that gibberish.

Anyway this is a good site you've got here, ed, well done for the good job you're doin, Senor.

Also, bien hecho to the Reds for reaching the last 16 in the Europa. I know it's not the most prestigious of trophies, but still, it's a trophy . . and we, we're Liverpool . . every trophy matters.

And when you think about, fellas, we could have a "perfect" season. We win the Europa; finish in the top four and win that super cup against the CL winners (hopefully Barca) on the one hand.
On the other, the billion $ chaps get knocked out of the CL, finish outside of the top 4. We start next season with two trophies, in the CL and a new, refreshed and stronger and a certain £50m Spaniard having to sulk his way through the Europa, with his Russian paymaster left with an egg on his face (sorry, couldn't resist).
Lastly, ibuena suerta to the Reds against the Hammers.

Pastore

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 10:26:51
Hey all, on the 'out's' I'm not one that is in favour of shipping out Kyriakos. In his defence he was cheap and works his nuts off when he has the opportunity, and scores! Sure, he's not of the highest possible quality, but he definatelt has the Liverpool heart on the field, so would be towards the bottom of the list of players move on when we have more pressing player investments to conclude.

Any thoughts ed? {Ed002's Note - I think you summarise it pretty well.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 10:01:25
If everyone is fit this could be our team

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- - - carra - agger - wilson - - -
kelly - - - - - - - - - - - - - - johnson
- - - - lucas - - - - gerrard - - - -
- - - - - - - - - mereiles - - - - - - - -
- - - - - carroll - - - - suarez- - - - -

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 09:49:36
27 Feb 2011 08:01:49
Ed I know chavsea were interested in Yohan Mollo but I don't think they followed it through. Do you think he may be a player we are looking at?

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea have never been interested in Yohan Mollo and I doubt Liverpool would be. Caen will likely make his loan permanent at the end of the year.}
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Ed002 please google Chelsea Yohan Mollo and you will see that Chelsea certainly were interested in him. I will happily accept your imminent apology

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 09:55:25
Im not sure why, Maybe im missing something but if Arsenal win they will finally have broken the barrier of not being able to win trophy's, that will make next season very difficult for liverpool if arsenal are a serious threat.

Cheers UCCM

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 09:42:06
Really looking forward to today's games, Both of em, Hope Liverpool win 3+ nill (altho i feel for west ham), Hope Birmingham City win league cup.

Ed who you rooting for Arsenal V Birmingham City
And West Ham United V Liverpool

Cheers UCCM

{Ed002's Note - It is critical for Liverpool that Arsenal win today.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 09:32:21
RE: Comolli + John Henry

So they have been in charge for a while. Isn't it time for them to fill in a job elevation form. 6 month review to see what they have accomplished

I really would like to see what Comolli has done apart from blow 74million on two overpriced strikers. Or maybe Kenny did that.

Morning Ed's

I know that the VAT has risen but Carroll for 35 mill and Suarez for 23 comes to 58 mill.What has this guy been smoking.I would hate to think he was LFC's accountant?? ?

{Ed002's Note - I would guess he was using the US Dollar value.}



ok fair enough carroll was way over priced, suarez cost less than torres with a lot more goals an assists under his belt, could've eassily gone for 30+, an finally i don't kno why we're bothered aslong as they both do well an score

anyway little luis hat-trick today

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 09:25:58
On bbc website it says kenny could be given a 2 year contract before his 60th birthday next friday, i think it would be a wonderful touch and a masterstroke PR move if john henry was to give him it on his 60th birthday, inside his card, or on top of the cake

what are your thoughts ed ? {Ed002's Note - It is most possible that they will sort out the contract soon - but I don't see it as any sort of "masterstroke".}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 09:22:21
{Ed002's Note - I would go for Dimitri Payet. Your assertion about Ed001 and Ed002 are both wrong - keep trying.}

Ed001 is ed's note
Ed002 is Editor's note

{Ed002's note - one correct.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 09:21:19
Morn to u ed. . sun is out we are on the up west ham u are going to be out of luck. . . . . . . . . . . . up the reds. .right ed whot i wanted to say is king kenny will get a 3 year deal very very soon 4 sure nesv will tie the king down fact.then they will tell the king that the frist step is the clear out dead wood in the summer. step 2 is the list of players king kenny would love at ARE club.step 3 nesv will back kenny all the way fact, we will only know who is coming in when the deals are done ed old school LFC ed that is how it is done.there is a very big summer COMING 4 US LFC ON THE UP FACT. . . . ed great site keep it up westham 0 liverpool 2. . . . . . JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 09:08:52
Just thinking about potential targets for the summer, firstly i hope to god we don't sign ashley young probably the most overrated player in the premier league, i'd rather offer the same kind of money(10-15m) for albrighton, much better player and a great crosser, for lw/ lm either turan or nzogbia, now i know nzogbia might be seen as a gamble but he's got enough prem experience already and i reckon taking that step up in quality might bring him down a peg or 2 with his reported attitude, also would like to see m'vila brought in and at lb the lad from bordeaux tremoulinas, good at going forward but can also defend.any thoughts guys ?
paul

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 08:01:49
Ed I know chavsea were interested in Yohan Mollo but I don't think they followed it through. Do you think he may be a player we are looking at?

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea have never been interested in Yohan Mollo and I doubt Liverpool would be. Caen will likely make his loan permanent at the end of the year.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 08:03:38
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27 Feb 2011 01:54:04
RE: Comolli + John Henry

So they have been in charge for a while. Isn't it time for them to fill in a job elevation form. 6 month review to see what they have accomplished

I really would like to see what Comolli has done apart from blow 74million on two overpriced strikers. Or maybe Kenny did that.

Morning Ed's

I know that the VAT has risen but Carroll for 35 mill and Suarez for 23 comes to 58 mill.What has this guy been smoking.I would hate to think he was LFC's accountant?? ?? ?

{Ed002's Note - I would guess he was using the US Dollar value.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 08:09:20
Hey Ed. . .do you know if there is any truth in the rumour that Carroll has to now lose weight before he can play. . . .surely he has been in the gym and swimming while injured?

{Ed002's Note - Perfectly possible.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 08:57:38
Ed - Comolli has openly said we are in the market for a speedy attacking player. In your opinion, who are our first and second choices for this position? You mentioned Gervinho has nothing to do with the potential Young deal - could we be in for two players as described above? {Ed001's Note - it is far too early to say with any certainty exactly who the target is, I doubt if he has even made any kind of decision himself yet.}

Ed who will be your favourite? Mine will be Honda. Also Ed is Editor 1 also known as Editor's note and Editor 2 ed's note? I'm a bit confused by the name changes. Cheers

{Ed002's Note - I would go for Dimitri Payet. Your assertion about Ed001 and Ed002 are both wrong - keep trying.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 02:03:27
Personally for me i wud sign 4 top top class players in summer an jan bieng 80-120m in each window the reason bieng is with the take over. lfc is there for a new (BRITISH) company, which is able to carry over its end of season losses for the first 3 years e.g:
[end of 1st year 200m loss
[begin year 2 with 200m loss sell dead wood raise 40m revinue ect end season with 80m loss
[begin year 3 with 80m loss bieng lfc wud easilly make that in profits

do you get were iam goin with this one / an ed wat do you think of this an wot wud your signings be

{Ed002's Note - At last we have a poster who understands Liverpool's finances.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 04:15:31
Ed, i have created a database of players we have been linked with over the past two months, could you please tell me if we we have any chance in bringing in these players:

LB: Taye Taiwo, Fabio Coentrao, Jose Enrique, Emilio Izaguirre
CB:Ryan Shawcross, Rolando
CM: Charlie Adam, Yann M'Vila, Moussa Sissoko
LW: Charles N'Zogbia, Ashley Young, Arda Turan, Marko Marin, Hulk, Juan Mata
RW: Eden Hazard, Alexis Sanchez, Cristian Eriksen, Antoine Griezmann, Pablo Hernandez, Gervinho

{Ed002's Note - LB: Possibly, no chance, possibly, possibly; CB: possibly, very unlikely; LW: Reasonable chance, decent chance, reasonable chance, possible, not a left wing, very unlikely; RW: no chance, no chance, very uinlikely, possible, very unlikely, reasonable chance.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 06:57:10
RE: Comolli + John Henry

So they have been in charge for a while. Isn't it time for them to fill in a job elevation form. 6 month review to see what they have accomplished

I really would like to see what Comolli has done apart from blow 74million on two overpriced strikers. Or maybe Kenny did that
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Why do Mancs bother coming on this page (especially ones with poor arithmetic skills)? The 2 strikers cost approximately 57m (offset by 50m for El Sulko) and in 6 months we have jumped 9 or 10 league places, got to the last 8 of Europa and installed a miracle worker as a manager who breeds positivity and confidence. If Comolli was even partly responsible for getting swapping Sulko for 2 younger and possibly better strikers then he should be commended.
After 6 months in charge, NESV get 10/ 10 from me.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 07:15:38
RE: Comolli + John Henry

So they have been in charge for a while. Isn't it time for them to fill in a job elevation form. 6 month review to see what they have accomplished

I really would like to see what Comolli has done apart from blow 74million on two overpriced strikers. Or maybe Kenny did that.

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Suarez was a very fair price for his goal scoring record, and as far as the Carroll fee goes, he could be up top for Liverpool for a decade, so his fee spread out over ten years should represent very good value. The owners have shown their hand their here to rebuild everything. Comolli, I'm sure will find us some real gems this summer, for good value

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 07:39:45
Do you think we should be looking a Nuri Sahin

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 07:55:02
Ed, what are the chances on seeing Carroll play a part today.

{Ed002's Note - Pretty unlikely.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 07:56:47
Morning Ed's

Rumours rumours and more rumours, in all seriousness.IF we did sell Skrtel do you think we would replace him or would we give Wilson a chance to shine? .He has certainly had a couple of decent games at left back?

Any thoughts ?

Summer ins
2 Left Backs
1 centre back (if we sell Skrtel)
1 Defensive midfielder
2 Wingers
1 Striker

Outs
Aquliani
Konchesky
Poulsen
Insua
Deggen
Ngog

{Ed002's Note - Ayala is the closest to being ready.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 08:00:10
Hey ed, is it possible we could see a surprise signing this summer a bit like the case with Carroll? Also, I recall seeing a story a while back how the club had fired several of our scouts, including Eduaro Macia. Any truth to this?

DownUnderRed. {Ed002's Note - It is very likely there will be a surprise in the summer. The club is not looking to sign the likes of Alexis Sanchez but to find talent. Yes, Macia has left.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 01:54:04
RE: Comolli + John Henry

So they have been in charge for a while. Isn't it time for them to fill in a job elevation form. 6 month review to see what they have accomplished

I really would like to see what Comolli has done apart from blow 74million on two overpriced strikers. Or maybe Kenny did that.

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 01:54:49
To whoever it was was slavering over lizzie greenwood hughes. either your misses is butt ugly, or you really do need your eyes testing mate, that or im just a lucky fueckr. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 01:21:22
Team For Tomorrow:

- - - - - - - - - -REINA- - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - CARRA- - - SKRTEL- - - -AGGER- - - - -
-KELLY- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -JOHNSAN-
- - - - - - - - - -LUCAS- - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - KAYT- - - - - - - GERRARD- - - - -
- - - - - - - - - MEIRELES- - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - -SUAREZ- - - - - - - - - - -
OR
- - - - - - - - - -REINA- - - - - - - - - - - -
-KELLY- - -CARRA- - - - AGGER- - - JOHNSAN-
- - - - - - - - - -LUCAS- - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - GERRARD- - - - -MEIRELES- - - - - -
- - -KEYT- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - COLE- -
- - - - - - - - - - SUAREZ- - - - - - - - - -

SUBS:Gulacsi, Maxi, Carroll, Poulsen, Soto, Jova, Pacheco

west ham 0-3 LIVERPOOL FC
RAUL, SUAREZ, CARROLL

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 01:01:02
Can i just say that the new edd001. 2. .3 is quality can deffinately tell personality's and who are and are not liverpool fans, whole new dimesion to the site. quality nice one edds
billynwa

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 00:33:38
This would be quality we would have the most feared forward line in the country literally! !
. .bellamy. .carrol. .suarez
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i would also love to see bellamy back here, fast as hell i thought he was one of citys best players when sven and hughes was there, but not big name enough for new owners, jimmybosun

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Can't see it though guys, he's too old to meet the new owners age criteria, shame though!

MR EM

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 00:27:32
Hey ed, hearing rumours of young, hazard, mvila, enrique and adam as our targets for summer, heard anythin concrete on these? ?

{Ed002's Note - It is certain that Hazard will not be moving to Liverpool. The others are possible targets.}

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 00:32:45
To put everything into context rip Dean Richards a player who was blighted by injury but could of been one if the best and once upon a time could of been a Liverpool player!

Mpc

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 00:22:36
I would love to see craig bellamy back at liverpool for 1or 2 seasons, great player when he was here, bit of a hot head, but kk would sort him out, or even the new no 9, still got the pace and the skill to get at any back 4 T.J. fife
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This would be quality we would have the most feared forward line in the country literally! !
. .bellamy. .carrol. .suarez
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i would also love to see bellamy back here, fast as hell i thought he was one of citys best players when sven and hughes was there, but not big name enough for new owners, jimmybosun

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 00:23:27
Hi ed, do you think we should have that lizzie greenwood hughes on motd instead of lineka, she is so gorgeous she could tell me we got beat would still love her, lol {Ed001's Note - she would be an improvement over Lineker, who knows nothing about footie and admits to not even watching the matches. Not so sure she is all that special, but I wouldn't say no I guess.}
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hi ed, i wouldn't climb over her to get at my misses lets put it that way, lol,
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I just googled her to she who she is, am i missing something? I would certainly climb over her to get at my misses! Although my misses is pretty fine !

MR EM

 

 

 

 

27 Feb 2011 00:10:45
Hi ed, do you think we should have that lizzie greenwood hughes on motd instead of lineka, she is so gorgeous she could tell me we got beat would still love her, lol {Ed001's Note - she would be an improvement over Lineker, who knows nothing about footie and admits to not even watching the matches. Not so sure she is all that special, but I wouldn't say no I guess.}
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hi ed, i wouldn't climb over her to get at my misses lets put it that way, lol,

 

 

 

 

 
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