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27 Aug 2014 23:01:06
Mamadou plays the ball to Stevie,
Stevie then to Hendo then to Markovic then Sterling
Raheem Sterling down the wing with fire in his belly
Puts the ball in the boxxxx.
For MARIO BALOTELLI!
Best post in a while mate!
27 Aug 2014 22:58:55
For the draw tomorrow.
Best: Benfica, Basle, Liverpool, Maribor
Worst: Real Madrid, PSG, Liverpool, Roma.
Source ssn
Lol. You can't just disagree and not explain why! Well, technically you can because you just did but come on - reasons please.
28 Aug 2014 00:08:10
Bring. It. On.
Good times.
Facing suarez in his second game (1st game barca)- priceless
I played out the draw earlier (dont ask)
Real Madrid
PSG
APOEL Nicosia
I'd probably Porto a head of Benfica but it really doesn't matter what people wish from the draw, we will get who we will get.
28 Aug 2014 00:17:32
Ludogrets razgard would be better I imagine to have in our group
28 Aug 2014 08:45:26
We are all far too worried about who we are to face. Lets's face it - quite a few opposition fans are not looking forward to being drawn in the same group as a certain team from Pot 3 - Liverpool!
27 Aug 2014 22:25:49
I know the draw to most may be just another game, but when your missus is a boro fan it adds an extra spice to the game. I cannot wait for it especially if I can get tickets!
Good luck to having arguments for a month ;o)
27 Aug 2014 22:22:44
To the tune oh pretty baby. .
Oh Danny sturridge
You are the love of my life
Oh Danny sturridge I'll let you shag my wife
Oh Danny sturridge do that dance when you score
(Repeat)
Tailchris, sturridge is good but not that good .
Massive lol's ;0)
Tallchris
Not sure if it will catch on but gave me a laugh this morning anyway
27 Aug 2014 22:09:15
Liverpool face Middlesbrough at Anfield in the Capital One Cup 3rd round. There weren't any notable fixtures as far as I'm aware.
After a number of Premier League sides went out there are 5 more all Premiership ties.
No major teams playing against each other but less premiership teams in the draw for the 4th round.
27 Aug 2014 21:26:28
sold petersen? I thought he looked pretty good in pre-season. he's been with us over 3 years, goes on tour and then gets sold off? Do we have too many players or something? would another year have made any difference - he;s only 19.
on another note, thought BRs tactics in the second half on MNF were poor. the wrong subs used. Am I the only one who thinks he should play Stevie in his best position, even if it is for half a game? we have DMs and SG is not one of them.
{Ed002's Note - Perhaps just Brendaned? A kick in the balls does little harm to youngsters apparently.}
27 Aug 2014 23:46:10
Obviously we've been the best team in the league lately for bringing up youngsters. I'm assuming he just wasn't rated very highly,
Mate if you'd read the posts over the last few days then you'd know that you're not the only one!
Maybe Peterson wanted to go? remember Ince? i'm not saying I know, just that it might be a possibility.
It was best for all parties involved. Peterson is a decent player and got his chance in the Tour of the US after Jack Dunn got injured.
With a number of players getting promoted from the U-18's to the U-21's this year, the club obviously feel that the youngsters coming through have a better chance of making it to the senior team than Peterson.
Harry Wilson, Sergi Canos, Ryan Kent, Alex O'Hanlon, Sheyi Ojo are among the youngsters who will feature somewhat regularly for the U-21's.
27 Aug 2014 20:27:39
Dear Eds,
First post here but have been a fascinated onlooker and reader of the posts for a few years.Sometimes it can drive you mad but it's addictive nevertheless.
Anyway, I saw an earlier post with a suggestion for a new song and it made me wonder how the songs originate. Obviously somebody writes the words to fit into a popular song, but how does the song then become adopted, learnt by the fans and finally implemented on match days?
It also made me get thinking about what song we could sing for Balotelli. I spent a little time and decided that a good choice would be Pharrell Williams "Happy".
I have a few lines that might work but maybe some of the other posters could add to it and see where we get to.
First lines:-
He's Brendan Rodgers' 45, he's Mario Balo-tell-I
Scores the goals for Liv-er-pool, and some for It-a-ly
Gives his money to the poor, he's Liverpool's Robin Hood,
When they asked him why, he said, I did it cause I could
Celebrated Bonny night, with everyone at his house,
As the kitchen set alight, he made a pan of scouse.
We're happy, happy, happy, happy with Mario Balo-tell-i
{Ed002's Note - Often though forums like this, often through idle afternoons at Anfield (of which there will have been many). I hope for Waro or another elderly warlord to chip in.}
27 Aug 2014 23:10:58
I love it Aardvark
{Ed007's Note - I might be showing my age here but there was a song a few years back by a band called Cornershop called 'Brimful of Asha'.
We're dancing, for the Champions League,
We're in the Champions League.
We'll fight and sing to keep the dream alive,
From the morning to the the evening
To the end of the night.
(Chorus)
Mario Balotelli wears 45,
Mario Balotelli number 45,
Mario Balotelli is our 45.
Theres a verse/type of chorus later on that could be changed as well, it starts like 'Everybody needs a bosom for a pillow' and could be used in conjunction with a mosh around, a pogo, a huddle (Poznan), some pyro or just a general bounce and clap:
We all love Mar-io Balo-telli
We all love Mar-io,
Give us a goal Mar-io Balo-telli
Give The KOP a goal.
Look it up while I get my coat and sling off to bed. :/
27 Aug 2014 19:38:49
Hey eds understand if you don't want to answer but do we have any Muslim players St the club? IF so what happens during Ramadan, does BY give them the month off or? I'm Muslim myself and curious about this. Thanks
{Ed002's Note - Muslim players tend to strike a balance with the club as do others with religious beliefs. Muslim players do generally not observe Ramadan any more than Jewish player observe Shabat. They will no doubt deal with this within their prayers.}
If I remember correctly from an interview with Toure, he said that Liverpool had their own food expert (or whatever u call it) prepare a plan for him, throughout the month. It was a plan made specifically for fasting player(s).
{Ed001's Note - Muslims are allowed a certain amount of leeway anyway, talking to locals here they can be allowed to eat and drink under certain conditions. It is just that usually they will, even when allowed, try to keep their eating and drinking to the absolute minimum out of respect.}
That is true ed001, i'm a muslim myself.
but I was happy to see that interview with toure, not because they are treating muslims well, but that would mean they would respect players beliefs etc, meaning no matter what your background is, they can work around it. that's how it should be really.
Toure, Yesil, Sakho, Emre Can and Assaidi.
27 Aug 2014 19:09:06
Ed002, are you also wds?
If not he is your twin for sure. same humour and cryptic clues
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what that is.}
27 Aug 2014 21:33:36
Xabi Alonso has asked Real Madrid to let him go. He wants to sign for Bayern Munich. The ball in Real's court
27 Aug 2014 20:42:54
Sorry guys but heres my effort at song for Danny Sturridge,
to the tune of Danny boy obviously.
OH DANNY BOY
OUR SONGS OUR SONGS ARE SINGING
FROM THE KOP AND ALL AROUND OUR GROUND.
YOU SCORE THE GOALS AND THEY WILL KEEP ON FLOWING,
OH DANNY BOY OH DANNY BOY WE LOVE U SO.
SO HERE WE ARE BACK IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
HERE WE R BACK WHERE WE ALL BELONG
THE KOP WILL ROAR OUR GREAT TEAM TO VICTORY
OH DANNY BOY OH DANNY BOY WE LOVE YOU SO
OH DANNY BOY OH DANNY BOY WE LOVE YOU SO
Let me know your thoughts, ed n fellow red's. YNWA
{Ed007's Note - I'd change the 'S' in singing on the second line to an 'M'.}
Oh Ed 7 I really would of thought you would be spending most of your time thinking of constructive ways to improve your own team. Rather than the rather pathetic abuse of not a club but an individual player never mind schools back in soon young man .
{Ed007's Note - Who kicked your kennel sweetheart? Calm down, what's up, did your mam find your dirty magazines again? She knows what that sock under your bed is for btw Pee-Wee.}
Fighting talk
The 71 to me would say he's at least 40. The 007 says to me, you do sound like a 7 year old 😂
27 Aug 2014 20:11:01
After Manchester United's embarrassing defeat to League 1 side, MK Dons, Louis van Gaal received a phone call from an iconic Scot whose name still rings around Old Trafford to this day.
"Don't worry about it at all. It's been widely reported that within a month of me first getting the United job, many moons ago now, the board threatened to sack me unless I started winning games. But that was all quickly forgotten, and just look at me now."
You can always trust David Moyes to say the right thing at the right time.
Cracked ribs!
Ironically, Man U's current demise is only good for scrapheap Moyes! it makes him look only moderately sh*te!
27 Aug 2014 20:04:15
Everyone seems to be writing Manchester United off already, I believe Van Gaal just needs is a bit of time to settle in, next season I think they'll be Champions once more! My prediction:
1. Man United
2. Cardiff City
3. Sheff Weds
4. Bournemouth
27 Aug 2014 20:24:18
Oh I see what you did there.
Nice One The Sandon
Quality
Looking out.for your posts now, lightens things up
28 Aug 2014 08:05:40
Dont be silly surely forest would finish above them!? LOL
27 Aug 2014 20:00:57
If you'd have asked me yesterday to name the most devastating Keanes in football, I'd have probably said Roy and Robbie.
Today I'm saying Milton
27 Aug 2014 19:59:51
Had to give it a try
to the tune of I Bet You Look Good On the Dancefloor by Arctic Monkeys
Start playing the ball to him cause the runs that he's made are clear,
He's ready to score again and his brilliance is sheer.
He leaves defenders all frozen,
With pace like an explosion,
He plays through the middle but he's just as capable when he's playing out wi-i-ide.
We wanna see D Sturridge back on the dancefloor,
Not long until we're going to see him score
We said we want to see him score
Said we wanna see Studge getting back on the dancefloor
Waving his long arms about and then netting a couple more
Then netting a couple more
Please, make it stop.
Lets just sing the old Danny Murphy song,
Super Super Dan. etc etc
And change it to super Danny Sturridge instead. Short and sweet.
There's too many good songs being murdered on here today (EMS's choice excluded, your music taste is shocking pal ;)
27 Aug 2014 19:19:53
OK worth a giggle.
To the song "Stand by me"
When The match days come
And the famous Kop sing
And the red men
Touch the famous
Liver bird.
No we won't, be afraid
Ooo we won't be afraid
We have Danny
Supper Danny
Danny Studge
Oh Danny, Danny scores
again
Ooh Danny scores again
We have Danny
Supper Danny
Danny Studge
Just been singing this with my 9 year old and it works for us. and he doesn't even know the tune of the original Srand by me!
Winner, hands down.
I quite like it, but perhaps Super Danny rather than Supper Danny? Surely he doesn't eat that much?
27 Aug 2014 19:07:45
Just a question for ed001 if he about?
Heard a little earlier that peterson has left lfc in a perm transfer to fc utrecht bit of a shame I liked the look of the kid but think he wasnt going to get a fair crack at it with us any time soon. This got me talking to a friend of mine who was a semi pro bout 10 years or so back and we got into a discussion reagrding accademy kids coming through the system. Whilst both agreeing that youth deserves a chance we tended to disagree on one thing, do you think it much easier for a youth player to break through if he more attack minded player? I got thinking of players that have come through our accademy, I remember the fowlers, Maccas, owens, gerrards & sterlings but can't really remember any defenders apart frm carra who you could call a star to come out frm the youth setup. I would love to see a mclaughlin given a chance this season but feel like we ain't going to see him in a red shirt properly. Will end up with a brief apperance here and there then off he will go to further his career like peterson has just done. i'm sorry for maybe missing a few players out who made first team apperances like warnock spearing to name two but never felt like they were going to be the next player to make the 11 game in game out.
Is it just me ed001 or is it much harder to make the grade as a defender or defensive midfielder than a attack minded midfielder or striker?
{Ed001's Note - I think it more depends on what players are available at the time. Carra got in ok.}
Well in recent times we have had carra and hyppia, no kid was ever going to push them out the side so would really struggle to break through.
Can't think of many players who left our academy and become top players at other clubs who would get a game at Liverpool now either.
So I'm guessing it's a mixture of not enough defensive talent at the time and really strong defenders at the club.
For me, I think a kid has a far better chance at a smaller club's Academy to be honest as at least there they might actually get a shot at the first team to get real experience.
Flannagan?
27 Aug 2014 18:49:15
Hi Eds,
Any idea of the fee for Kris Petterson?
I thought Rodgers was impressed with him, which is why he took him on the USA tour.
Puzzled by the transfer without a decent fee coming in.
Thanks
27 Aug 2014 18:43:45
A few people were talking about the atmos at the saints game.
Just wondering what anyone else thinks. Way back when we would play the big hits of the day. And everyone would get warmed up into the singing along with he beatles etc.
God bless george but before the sainta he played a loads of (pretty inlistenable) local unsigned bands. Whilst I appreciate he's trying to do local people a favour, i'm wondering if its the right time or place for it. If he just played big singalong hits (ideally ones we already have songs to- I know he does with fields of anfield road but there are many others) I feel it would get the atmos started a bit more.
Thoughts anyone?
Yes Frankly I agree
Atmosphere was not good at the Southampton game.
Seems like a lot come just to be entertained but do not realise it is up to us as supporters to create the special atmosphere that we are renowned for worldwide.
What we created in the latter parts of last season was special and surely encouraged our players to give a little bit more when it was needed.
As an opponent it must scare the rubbish out of ya hearing us singing YNWA before the game.
Away games we are always vocal, as most away teams are but it is at Anfield where we have to create an intimidating atmosphere all the time, not just the big games.
Saying that I can't wait for an epic Champions league atmosphere this season against one of the other top clubs.
The European away supporters are often in awe of what they are witnessing.
27 Aug 2014 18:19:54
Yes boom we were very lucky in the CL final in 2005!milan had countless chances to finish us off n dida couldv saved smicers shot. N yes we were lucky last season on that run swansea cudv beaten us at anfield city cudv etc etc. U can't expect us to beat everyone again theyv all improved. We done well last year and it will be fantaztic finishing work to watch us in the CL again its bn far to long and that's the fruit of last terms labour .
Don't agree with us being lucky in CL final.
Don't think there would be many other teams who would fight like we did at 3-0 down.
We fully deserved that victory.
27 Aug 2014 20:27:08
Swansea Red, you and I perceive luck very differently.
LAVERS
We were not the best team on the pitch that day in Istanbul but our support helped create the scene for the greatest come back of all.
I went to both finals and thought we were far more dominant in Athens.
Strange team selections in both matches if you ask me!
I think boom was being sarcastic
27 Aug 2014 17:39:59
Best of luck Kristoffer Peterson,
YNWA
27 Aug 2014 17:17:31
Hi reds,
Would you guys prefer a really tough draw( real, barca, bayern) for the big occasion or and easier draw to give us a better chance of progression.
Also, failing to make it out of the group, would you rather finish 3rd and enter the europa league or finish fourth to concentrate on the league?
27 Aug 2014 19:00:26
Good question OTS, The big European nights at Anfield against the big teams are unforgettable but would also like to progress past 5he group so I'm undecided. I suppose it doesn't really matter as you will always face a quality team whoever is in the group. In relation to the latter question I would definitely want to drop into the Europa as the winner goes into next years CL so well worth trying to win. Also you want to be competing in Europe even in the Europa.
I want one big, big game in the group stages against the likes of Madrid and Barcelona, but other than that I'd want the theoretically weakest teams other than them possible to give us a very decent chance of making the second round and, hopefully, further
A nice easy group so we progress and we will meet a big team eventually anyway so we can have our cake and eat it.
Give me barca and bring on suarez back at anfield
27 Aug 2014 15:54:28
Edd001, if united get vidal do you think the fight for 3/4 will be between pool/ars/united? Hes, a special player
{Ed001's Note - he is, but no, I think they have too many gaps in their squad and team to fill with one player.}
Houdini isn't that special big al
I agree the defence is our weakest link (could improve this week) but with the likes of De Gea, Rojo, Shaw, Valencia, Di Maria, Vidal, Herrera, mata, RVP, Rooney, Carrick and co I'd be disappointed if we don't challange for 4th!
He's the only player I'd be gutted to see go to them. Probably the best box to box midfielder in the game today.
I do think United will get better but the gaps at the back are there for all to see. Plus it could take them a few games yet to adapt to Van Gaal's methods.
I guess they will stand a chance of making the top 4 but so will Spurs this season in all fairness. Getting results early in the season is key for us I feel - a lot of pundits and so on are writing us off due to the loss of Luis and should we get of to a poor start those doubts will only intensify.
Vidal is a top player but we just have to focus on ourselves. Spurs, prior to last season has always been a tough fixture. If we can go to WHL and pick up all three points after the defeat to city I think we'll be fine this season.
I think that it's actually a big risk. That knee injury was serious and if there's any lingering issues with it then the pace and physicality of the Premiership might just do for him.
27 Aug 2014 17:09:24
Just a thought, did we not get beat by arsenal early last season and look decidedly ordinary in doing so? Look how that turned out? It's very early, no need to panic just yet. A little faith we'll get better!
Think the problem we will have is in the tough away games like the one coming up, we don't have that world class player you need to take the game by the scruff and score.
Suarez was pivotal in our big games last year, he was strong and aggressive and made some VERY important assists.
Hopefully the diamond will be back with Balo & Sturr upfront against spurs or I fear we will be on the end of another loss.
27 Aug 2014 18:46:49
As I remember it Suarez wasn't even that good against Spurs in the 5-0, despite scoring. Top performers were Hendo, Flanno and Sterling. This was the story in many big games as well with Sturridge coming to the fore more often than Suarez did.
He was a terrific player, but can we please move on. It's a new season, a new team, a new story to be written. Sit back, enjoy it, and hope it's a good one by the end of it.
YNWA
27 Aug 2014 19:06:44
yes. 2:0 with the person we are allegedly missing the most.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/premier-league/arsenal-Liverpool-1749/
Tough away games I said! Plus Suarez was MOTM in that 5-1 thrashing of arsenal.
I'm not saying we don't have other good playes but not ones who can turn a game in a
Our favour like Suarez could, look at his goal away to Tottenham it was first class and finished with his week foot.
U guys need to wake up a bit if u think we can better lady years results without Suarez.
28 Aug 2014 07:14:13
suarez was the flat track bully last season who only scored against smaller teams
27 Aug 2014 17:00:38
Hi Ed002, do you think Liverpool might be tempted by this reported offer of a "free loan" for Alex Song by Barcelona?
I'm not sure what they mean by "free loan", maybe it means wages to be covered but no loan fee. I'm not sure.
Depending on the terms of the deal I think it could be a good one. However, we have brought in so many players this summer - too many maybe.
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea. It would be another very high wage to take care of.}
His wages could be sorted out by Lucas who would go out on loan to Napoli and Coates who will likely leave permanently or loan, with Agger also a strong possibility to leave permanently.
but to the Reds would you take Song for a straight swap with Agger if it were on the table?
27 Aug 2014 16:48:37
Hi guys, can't find it on google so does anybody know what time the CL draw is tomorrow and isit on TV? Cheers boys!
{Ed002's Note - There is a meeting in the morning with Platini and then a news conference with Platini, after a leisurely lunch people will be bored for some considerable time before the draw takes place at 1745 local time tomorrow (1645 in the UK). I am sure Sky will have it on somewhere, they have a separate film crew here.}
27 Aug 2014 17:09:55
Will we be seeing you on TV Ed002?
{Ed002's Note - It depends how much trouble I get in to tonight.}
27 Aug 2014 18:50:19
Coverage starts at 4:30 on ssn.
27 Aug 2014 17:31:12
And what do you look like Ed? Cap?
{Ed002's Note - Cute.}
27 Aug 2014 19:08:10
Ed002
I think kicking Platini in thr guts might be enough
or you could ngo down the old route of streaking
{Ed002's Note - It is going to be an interesting call in the morning. If UEFA don't give him 2016 as transition he may well stay.}
27 Aug 2014 19:08:32
Ed002
Will you be the pretty lady in the blue dress next to Platini?
{Ed002's Note - Again?}
27 Aug 2014 16:13:37
A song for Sturridge, to the tune of Danny Boy.
Oh Danny boy, the kop, the kop is calling
You score the goals, we beat another side
Suarez is gone, the experts think we're failing
'Tis you, 'tis you will show them our true pride.
Oh how you dance when sterling plays you through now
And how they're hushed as you score another goal
T'will be our title next summer or in springtime
Oh Danny boy, oh Danny boy, We love you so.
YouTube dancing Danny Sturridge. Think some fans in Austin Texas are singing it.
Quality. Let's take it to the match. The boy deserves a good song
27 Aug 2014 16:05:54
Don't know if anyone has suggested this but for the Daniel Sturridge song how about.
To the tune of all you need is love
with or without french national anthem
All you need is Studge
All you need is Studge
All you need is Studge, Studge, Studge is all you need
All you need is Studge (all together now)
All you need is Studge (everydody)
All you need is Studge, Studge, Studge is all you need
Let's all have some courage,
and dance like Danny Sturridge,
Na, na, na, nah,
Na, na, na, hah.
That's quality mate, can just see 45,000 doing the Studge when he scored. bloody brilliant!
27 Aug 2014 15:46:06
Good luck Kristoffer Peterson on your new journey. I hope he succeeds Utrect is a good move. YNWA
27 Aug 2014 15:45:40
What is it with some saying we should be realistic and top 4 will be tough?!
We have been the second highest spenders behind barca in europe' I expect us to challenge, we have weaknesses at the back but we should be expecting more by.more fans.
BR would have questions to answer by the board if were scraping for fourth and a long way off the leaders' the whole transfer commitee would be.looked at
We should be rightly after this window to atleast challenge in all competitions
If you look at our Net Spend, it is not even close. The players that we bought in will need to integrate slowly although the PL proven players i.e. Lallana, Lovren and in some extent Balotelli are expected to slot in and have an impact straight away.
27 Aug 2014 16:32:40
Al, we definately benefitted from no European football last year. Then look at the fact that Arsenal Chelsea and City will be harder to take points off. Tottenham and Everton have both bedded players in that were settling last season. Points will be harder to come by.
Add to that the fact that we will more often than not be playing twice a week. that's more tiredness, more injuries less preperation time.
i'd say Quarter Finals of Champs and Top 4 would be a massive achievement taking everything into consideration. But even progression in Champs is going to be difficult because of our seeding. We could end up in a 'group of death'.
Hopefully the european cup will mean our young players get a better run in the domestic cups. Last year we basically played a full strength team all the time because we were afforded the luxury of less midweek games, and none any further than the confines of the UK.
A net spend in maybe something a club might look at. A manager should always be judged by his gross spend. These are the playersof his choice. He isn't into "balancing the books"
Agree with Rover.
Were the second highest spenders in the prem behind united anyway.
27 Aug 2014 15:41:19
Kristoffer Peterson has joined FC Utrecht. It is said to be a permanent deal.
27 Aug 2014 15:37:52
Expect the Borini deal to Sunderland to be completed in the coming days. He will not be going to Italy.
27 Aug 2014 15:33:39
greetings again eds, a question regarding Balos best position, if I may ask where would you say he is at his best playing, tru number 9 or floating around the box, linking up play?
kind regards
{Ed001's Note - no idea, never been able to figure out what he is best doing on the pitch.}
27 Aug 2014 15:11:03
Some really awful songs flying around here lol just kidding
people need to stick to their day jobs (or night depending on your line of work)
27 Aug 2014 15:06:53
Eds, I was going to put this on the Pronunciation page, but I couldn’t find it. A fellow on ssn said that a player named ANGLE di Maria is coming to the EPL. Was he just mispronouncing Angel, or does Aloysius Paulus Maria van Gaal plan to counter our diamond with an Isosceles triangle midfield this year?
Obviously this reporter is obtuse.
Even pronounce it properly or do it in english don't mix the two
the multiple pronunciations of Rojo are driving me nuts as well
Maybe he's just acute player?
27 Aug 2014 17:26:57
Or maybe the reporter pronounced it RIGHT
After their latest loss in milton keynes, angle di maria has been seen scalene the walls at the united training ground
im ashamed of that one
In case anyone was legitimatiely wondering, in spanish, a 'g' before either an 'e' or an 'i' is pronounced like a raspy or breathy 'h'
an-hell
not ang-ell or an-jell or indeed an-gull
27 Aug 2014 14:43:17
Hate slating players!
But I just seen a rerun off the city game and lovern asking Johnson the question when lost jovetic at a corner moments later he's flapping at a shot instead of heading it clear off the line.
27 Aug 2014 14:29:03
Eds. banter.
This one to pick up your mood.
AC Milan interested in buying Torres from Chelsea. Which club is a bigger Joke. Milan or UTD?
Poll for tomorrow.
27 Aug 2014 15:30:51
The daily polls are, as they have always been yes/no polls Harry - try rewording it!
Harry they are both where we were 5 years ago. We didn't like being called a joke then so they clearly are not now.
Puzzled how about this:
Are AC Milan and United as much of a joke as this post?
EMS
your reply gave me a chuckle
Don't listen to the uptight haters boom. FYI you could easily make that a question. Vote no for ac milan vote yes for utd?
27 Aug 2014 14:26:17
I'll be very happy to make top four again, it's gunna be even tougher this season. We have a good youthful side, I expect us to have an indifferent first few months (not bad still in the top 5) and then I think we'll really kick on in Febuary like we did last season. i'm not disappointed by our lose to City.
Lets get behind BR and our Young Guns and beat Tottenham on Sunday. Balotelli to score as well (hopefully haha)
27 Aug 2014 14:19:33
My Danny Sturridge Song
Tina Charles - I Love to Love
Oh he loves to score
But my Danny just loves to dance
He wants to dance, He loves to dance, He's got to dance
Oh he love to score
But my Danny just loves to dance
Oh he loves to score
And he will score with every chance
oh oh yes!
Anfield Apple
27 Aug 2014 14:14:45
Hi fellow reds & eds
First time poster, long time reader
Just thought I'd comment on the upcoming game against spurs
1. I'd really love to see Can given some more playing time even start possibly, I think he was the best performer bar Countinho in the pre-season.
2. I'd love to see how BR reacts to the loss and what formations we will play, I really want to see Coutinho play that 10 role, just to see if he is out of form or if its down to BR playing him out of position
3. Also I think Sakho should be play alongside Lovren, just to see what works and how well they gel. To be honest I've had a gutfull of Skrtel, seems to make the same mistakes time after time, shows no improvement on any weaknesses
4. Hopefully we come away with a win on Sunday, hard to read Spurs atm, they played a QPR side without much heart, so hopefully there performance was more down to how bad OPR were
27 Aug 2014 13:45:17
is the spending over or are we still looking to add to the squad.
think a GK to provide cover/competition to Mingolet and a DM, Song available on a free transfer?
27 Aug 2014 13:43:20
Come on lads let's be realistic! Champions league qualificatiion it what we need anything after is a bonus. We were unlucky last year after a good run now we have lots of good youngsters that need time. We will be contenders just in good time YNWA
27 Aug 2014 14:05:59
I am sorry, But we weren't lucky last year. Were we lucky back in 2005 Cl final?
I agree. From a realistic point of view qualifying for the champions league should be the aim, consolidating a position in the top four is crucial for our way forward.
Last season was quite remarkable buts it's fair to say we took full advantage of our position and our attack was special.
This season, city and Chelsea seem the clear favourites. We've lost our best player, so there will be some doubts about our team until they go on a run of wins. Arsenal and United are strengthening, spurs and Everton have good young managers and good squads tbf.
Making the top four will be tough but that's the aim and if we get into a position early next year where we could challenge for the title then I'm sure our aims will change.
A lot will depend on how quickly the new lads (Mario and Adam in particular) can settle in, if the attack can click we'll be flying again this season (no doubt the defence must improveoon the mean time).
Try reading it again, Harry.
I disagree man.
Should we not expect to challenge after 120 million being spent, a club with large debts?
We will be up there but fall short purely.because of defense and not having a top GK. We will have a very good season IMO but.lets be real we have.spent a.fortune so should rightly expec more
Just to add what.good youngsters? We have got rid of kelly, loaned llori and ibe and.bought in quite a few.players that will hault our own.
We have quailty young players we have bought' and there's the.difference mate.
Its like Rogers said focus on top four the once we get that focus for the league
Lets see big Al he means Sterling coutinho markovic 2 spanish fullbacks can and even balo and studge
Harry, read the post properly lad, the op said we were unlucky last year!
Also instead of stating we were lucky in Istanbul in 2005 why don't you look at it that we got destroyed in the first half by a very good Milan side but somehow showed unbelievable character and pride in the shirt in responding to the support to reverse the situation against all the odds to win our fifth european cup.
I agree Top 3 should be the aim; settle for 4th if top 3 not achievable.
Try to do well in the Champions league but paying for the wages of the additional players (and keeping our best players) means being close to the top of the League table and qualifying for the Champions League.
I think Lallana and Markovic (who I was impressed with when he come on) could be key to us achieving this.
We have a lot of players to try and blend into the team and it may take us a few months to get up to speed; hopefully we can still be in the mix and build on that for the 2nd half of the season.
27 Aug 2014 13:40:56
if agger/borini will leave I think we already brought in there replacements, but if lucas leaves do you think we will buy another holding midfielder eds?
why I think we will is because lucas was the first to come on if we had to replace a midfielder and I think can is for the future.
Malta
27 Aug 2014 14:06:49
Can was bought to cover up for the DM spot. Lucas wasnt playing last season.
They say you should have 2 players per possition.
Gerrard,
Can.
If we are desperate then we have Allen and Henderson who can do a job there as well, not to mention players from the accademy.
Alex Song would be nice
27 Aug 2014 13:30:22
Hi Eds and reds,
So been working on a song for Sturridge, not brilliant but best I have so far, what does everyone thing? ( To the tune of Teenage Dirtbag by Wheatus )
His nickname is Studge
This is a song about him
He will not budge
No matter how hard you push him
Oh how he rocks
In front of the Kop
They now know how good you are
Chelsea didn't give a damn about you
But Sturridge is very nifty baby
He was our new year gifty baby
The quickest to hit his fifty baby
He's Ours oooooooooooo
27 Aug 2014 13:25:59
Agreed Can can play a DM role but he is more of a box to box midfielder and would excel in that position IMO. We definitely need a DM and I think Alex Song would be a good shout at it. Barcelona is ready to give him up on a free transfer also. So what do you think fellow Reds. Will he suit our style?
Another pressing issue atm is the poor form of Mignolet or should we say his continuing poor form from last season. We need one GK and we need one fast! I know Romero is not great but would give stiff competition to Mignolet and would up his game.
On a different note don't you think Hendo has been given a different role than last season just because BR wants him to score more goals. I think he should be played as box to box player like he was last season. he was superb in that role. Considering Ballo is also here, BR shudnt pressurize Hendo into scoring more goals. He should just let him do what he does best.i.e. run, create, defend in midfield!
would love to get all of your views.
Cheers
27 Aug 2014 13:18:54
I cannot believe so many fans are already writing LFC off as contenders. The reality is we have played 2 games, won one and lost one. We lost to the Premier League Champions who have a settled squad minus one or two acquisitions. LFC have bought in a number of players that will need to time to gel with their team mates and get used to the pace of the league. This will not happen overnight. Pre-season helped but clearly BR and the committee did not sign all of their first choice targets, as we are still recruiting. We also had one or two injuries during pre-season. It's also worth pointing out that one or two players are unsettled and may well be moved on before transfer deadline. However, I have no doubt BR will quickly integrate the players. I see this already, as BR is tinkering with the squad and playing players out of position during the early part of the season. BR also has to try to accommodate Balla and Lallana. This is not ideal but I fully expect LFC to start firing on all cylinders in the weeks ahead and look to go on a winning run, challenge for the title and surprise one or two teams in the Champions League. Don't write us off YET! YNWA
27 Aug 2014 12:47:51
Hi Eds,
Is Flanno injured at the moment? Also can you see BR playing with 3 at the back bringing in Shako?
{Ed001's Note - yes and no.}
27 Aug 2014 18:55:40
Which question exactly are you undecided on Ed?
Kidding.
27 Aug 2014 12:26:39
Reading a lot of the posts on here I think an awful lot of people seem to be totally forgetting one of our most persistent performers last season, John Flanagan. As the Eds have said, Manquillo is very young and Moreno is at best a good prospect (but a very exciting one from what we've seen thus far), I'd hate to see Flanno marginalised to justify money spent. All of a sudden no one seems to have him in their favoured back four.
27 Aug 2014 13:12:52
Flanno is injured. What you upto mate.
My favoured back four would include him, i'm not sure Rodgers will, but we'll see when he returns to fitness.
Red Rum
27 Aug 2014 13:25:03
If someone plays better than Flanno or any other, He should be in the teamsheet. Flanno would be playing games after his injury.
27 Aug 2014 11:53:13
Ed001 I owe you an apology - Welbeck is crap. I'll support him as a United fan but I was wrong and you were right and I'm off to dig into this slice of humble pie now.
{Ed001's Note - what on earth? Oh never mind, I guess he played last night then? I missed it, typically. He is a great athlete, but he just doesn't know how to kick a ball.}
27 Aug 2014 15:09:58
Ed001 how are players like Welbeck who have no talent whatsoever allowed to go all the way to Manchester United's first team and even the starting 11 of England in a world cup, while there are many of us with far more ability sitting at home? There must be something very wrong in English football as a whole.
{Ed001's Note - English football priotises atheletes over skill, that is why England are crap.}
27 Aug 2014 11:19:27
mourinho said Torres won't be leaving but it looks like he could be joining ac Milan is that not mourinho 'putting his foot in it' or would that only be brendan Ed002?
{Ed002's Note - I would not believe anything Mr Mourinho says to the press - I have explained that repeatedly. It is Brendan Rodgers who has the foot and mouth problem.}
I think all managers and players bend the truth to suit their own agendas. I do get tired sometimes of listening to the bull. t but i'm hooked on football. jose brendon louis manuel and all the others are just telling us what they want us to think is going on and when that changes they just make up some more stuff to get them an edge or breathing space etc etc
27 Aug 2014 11:19:07
Not sure what has happened over the last couple of days to put Ed002 in a good mood but thanks for the info you have been sharing lately, i'm assuming your getting less problems from the site and some posters at the moment.
Appreciate the hard work and info eds.
{Ed002's Note - Everyone has been pretty good recently - but I am always in a good mood.}
27 Aug 2014 12:14:34
could have fooled me Ed
Have to agree with armchair fan, fair play ed2, love it when your so forthcoming!
Maybe she is having a gooooood time in Monaco, nudge nudge wink wink.
27 Aug 2014 11:12:14
Just heard from a reliable source that the bitters are having a stair lift fitted between the home dressing room and their pitch for Samuel Eto. They are also scrapping the z cars theme and will be running out to the theme from Last Of The Summer Wine this season.
27 Aug 2014 10:27:12
Ed002 I read what you said about Michael Ballack, I'm glad he's a big fan if Can and so am I, I have to say I had the pleasure if meeting MB once and he was lovely a right gentleman, unlike some others I've met who wasn't nice at all! But that's another story.
{Ed002's Note - He is a very nice intelligent chap - very straightforward.}
With Balotelli, Lallana, Flannagan all to come in would strengthen us hugely!
If Michael Ballack thinks Can will be a brilliant signing for us, then all I can say is 'money well spent.'
27 Aug 2014 10:55:26
Eds. Eds. Eds.
This Di-Maria lad would be one hell of a defender?
27 Aug 2014 11:45:51
I'm a UTD fan and this tickled me. Good job.
Harry it's not funny anymore. So you just sent this post in four-nothing.
27 Aug 2014 12:17:33
That was actually quite good EMS
27 Aug 2014 10:27:17
The next game against Tottenham is going to be tough.
Bare in mind that Skrtel, Moreno and Johnson may not be involved, so who´s going to be our fullbacks?
Tottenham destroyed QPR, but to be honest QPR really didn´t show up against them. It is obvious to see that their attacking midfield will cause a lot of trouble. Against QPR they showed that they are great at pressing the opponent, and they have loads of creativity.
My concerns for the rest of the season is the following:
- With lucas likely to leave, we have no CDM bar Gerrard, and he can´t last for 90 minutes. Some say Can can play CDM but that´s not his optimal position.
- BR decision making regarding our back four. The defence were our achilles heel last season, and it seems it still is. BR needs to take action and start playing regular back four, or else I just don´t see it working out. Skrtel and Johnson doesn´t know how to keep a high defensive line, and we have suffered a lot of goal on that account.
- BR needs to use his substitutions right. Last season we were the team who used the least subs in the league. When Gerrard starts to fade badly, no matter at what point, then he needs to sub him, because it will cost us goals. This counts for all players.
- BR want to play Henderson higher up the pitch, so he can contribute with more goals. My question is, why change something if it worked perfect? Hendersons best season, was the previous, so why start tinkering with it? not sure but I think he has been playing right attacking midfield the last 2 games. Box-to-Box midfielder is his best positon
- We have played a 4231, 433, 41212. When another striker has been introduced, we have looked much more dangerous and scored (the introduction of RL). I hope we stick with the 41212 as we seem to benefit most from it. 433 is great when we want to control the game, but the chances we create are few.
- Mignolet really needs to up his game.
We have looked shaky in both of our games this season, which I think is due to Henderson playing right wing, and alterations in the back 4. Whether we like it or not, we are a lot more dangerous when countering than when we are controlling the game (tiki taka?). A thing that bothers me is that Mignolet is so slow at starting counter attacks. I remember when Pepe played, he was decessive and usually made long throws which led to chances.
Does any of you share the same concerns?
Spot on mate, why fix it if its not broke, mingolet does need to get back to the way he was at sunderland and the reason we bought him, if we bought boruc it would give mingolet something to think about, but I don't think he goes out to play bad he has started to shout at the defence so that's good, but at the moment he is not at his best for whatever reason, it need to be sorted because he has the ability but he does not show it and he flaps in games, I think its down to the GK coach, we have MBand he will get us goals and make us goals by dragging defenders out of position so the only problem is the defence which is not a new problem and after all the money we have spent we have only bought 1 commanding CB, GJ should be dropped manquillo had a great game for his 1st game in the prem then he gets dropped!! for GJ who has shown his poor form and will continue to show it, then there's enrique or is he injured again, the money we would save from their wages would go to a new CB we have cover for our full back positions, if we don't sort the defence out I can't see us finishing in the top 4
If the Three defenders you mention are all unavailable I guess our back four would look like; Manquillo, Lovren, Sakho & Enrique. Which bar Moreno at LB would be my first choice back four anyway.
I was going to post something the same about how much more dangerous we look playing Two upfront from the start whether it be Mario or Lambert to come in!
27 Aug 2014 11:53:40
I don't want to bang on about Football Manger too much . but Gerrard plays a role called Half-Back. Can could play that role!
Luke you are right. But let me put this in another way. Henderson can also play as defensive midfielder, but his qualities makes him a better box to box midfielder. Same goes for Can.
Whoever played QPR that day would have destroyed them. They were that bad.
Spurs are better under Pochetinho but I am interested in seeing how they do throughout the season.
Also, you can definitely expect a reaction from our boys after that tepid performance at City.
27 Aug 2014 13:33:48
We would beat them As BR woulndt want to take any more chances, A loss would put him under serious pressure. We would go with the best attacking line up.
Expect Ballo to start up front with Sturridge and We would most play a diamond.
Ballo-Sturridge-Sterling-Countinho-Henderson
Henderson isn't consistantly creative enough to play further forward and as long as Gerrard play DM he will have to be restricted to playing as Stevie's runner because Gerrard is a major liability however good he is while we are in possession.
QPR played 352 for the first time under Harry on Saturday and got their pants pulled down.
They covered 3 goals playing this formation before Harry decided to change it. As a poster above said anyone would of beaten them last week.
27 Aug 2014 10:26:35
Looking at the utd fans last night jumping up and down having a great laugh at their team getting beat I really think their new managers r getting mixed up and think they want beat come on van gal doing a great job.
27 Aug 2014 10:57:07
Its been just 3 games into the season and UTD are only left with FA cup.
27 Aug 2014 11:48:41
Well you can either sing and support your team win, lose or draw. Or you can go on an online forum and whinge about your team.
27 Aug 2014 13:03:45
I try to stay positive as much as I can in the dark days but celebrating a 4-0 loss to a team in the 3rd tier of English league is a new low for the so called greatest club in the world cough.Well done Karl Robinson and his team.
Quality that Harry lad.
27 Aug 2014 10:22:09
I've been amazed at the criticism of the team after Monday night, WTF did you all expect? We've lost the worlds best striker and failed to adequately replace him, the manager is trying to integrate several buys in to the team ( to many buys and some in the wrong positions for me ) especially in defence which is the worst area on the pitch to change to much to quickly ( and people still want more players in for f**ks sake. )
Until he finds the correct blend with the players he has then you should all expect similar results as Monday night, and as I said a few weeks ago it may cost him his job if he doesn't get it right and quickly. He's under pressure, make no mistake about that so factor that in to future results.
P.S. Your all thinking up songs for Ballotelli, don't you think you ( if doing this is what your in to ) should be thinking up a concrete song for Sturridge ( not the half arsed one I've heard so far )? Ye know, show the lad some appreciation for what he's done in the short time he's been here rather than show appreciation for Ballotelli who so far has done nothing but be signed and for being a character.
{Ed001's Note - well said Waro, about the songs especially. Never thought I would say that after reading one of your posts!}
27 Aug 2014 10:58:44
So the day has come. Waro. Optimism. Possitive. height of Excellence.
Lols. Nice post mate. a much neded one. we would spank Spurs this sunday
I'm not into it, I just thought I'd join in. I wasn't even aware Sturridge didn't have one. Sorry for uupsetting you Waro ;) I agree by and large though. I think Rodgers got this summer wrong. I'd have signed Begovic, Ricardo Rodriguez, Lovren, Can, Lambert and Reus and that would've been it. That would've given us Can and Lambert for depth, and a starting XI of Begovic, Flanno, Lovren, Sakho, Rodriguez, Gerrard/Can, Hendo, Coutinho, Sterling, Sturridge, Reus. Job done with only 4 changes.
He went OTT. No denying it. It's our job to support the players who are here now though so let's just hope he got it right. 6 players was plenty. Instead he has 9 and has still not addressed the keeper issue. We can't change that now though. I tend to agree with Ed001. Its a shame players like Wisdom, Smith, Teixeira, Ibe and Borini won't get a chance now. I think our transfer business has been very good, we haven't signed a single bad player. I just think it could've been done differently and ultimately better.
27 Aug 2014 13:12:13
Adam
If you buy Begovic, Migs wouldn't see a league game in near future. So that's 9 mill off.
Reus was a must and I am damm gutted we couldn't get him. Perfect player to play behind Sturridge.
Moreno over Rodriguez, because sheer pace and his flexibility to beat a man with ease.Our style demands so much from our Full backs.
Medal or Schniderlien, The most we missed. Jovetic/Nasri couldn't have got a space to run through our midfield.
Lallana / Tadic. Both brilliant player and would add a world of good to our team.
Did you get abducted in the last week or so, Waro?
There's no way ems would have bought Lambert or Can off his own back. He's only saying them because they were actually bought
27 Aug 2014 20:29:59
I'm confused. I've found myself agreeing with posts from Waro and Harry recently. I only need Ozone for a hatrick! Should I seek professional help?
27 Aug 2014 10:15:40
To the tune of Happy by Pharrel -
"He might be crazy but he's still a red,
Nobody knows what goes on in his head,
He's Daniel Sturridges partner in crime,
You can try to stop him but don't waste your time,
Here's why;
Balotelli,
Clap along if you feel like a bathroom without a roof,
Balotelli,
Clap along if happiness is what Mario brings to you,
Balotelli,
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you,
Balotelli,
Clap along if watch him play is what you wanna do.
Here comes bad press talking this and that,
They try to tell us he's a total prat,
Well we should probably warn you he'll be just fine,
So buckle up it's Balotelli time,
Goodbye;
Balotelli,
Clap along if you feel like a bathroom without a roof,
Balotelli,
Clap along if happiness is what Mario brings to you,
Balotelli,
Clap along if you know what happiness is to you,
Balotelli,
Clap along if watch him play is what you wanna do."
Thoughts red men? Haha
27 Aug 2014 10:26:08
I have got a feeling, Ballo would hit a brace against Spurs and would be subbed at 70th min with a standing ovation from the Liverpool fans.
Little too much time on your hand, Adam?
I was bored and had 15 minutes lol ;)
You had me laughing there Adam, by the way Sturridge has a song, the old Patrick Berger song but it hasn't been sung loudly at all, although it was sung at the Southampton game.
27 Aug 2014 08:51:27
Regarding Coutinho: if throughout this season he blows hot and cold again how many of you would prefer to see Teixeira taking his place in the squad? I admit I'd prefer Teixeria personally.
And Ed001 if you are around can you clarify something? Some folks have questioned why Skrtel is preferred to Sakho as Lovren's partner and Ed002 thinks it's simply because of their favoured foot so therefore Brendan is choosing either Lovren or Sakho and not both.
If memory serves though I recall that you Ed001 thought Lovren and Sakho would be the most likely central partnership as Lovren is comfortable on either foot. Did I imagine that Ed001? My own preference would be Sakho and Lovren. Skrtel is a decent centre-half but Sakho is far superior in my opinion.
{Ed001's Note - Lovren is happy on either foot, yes.}
27 Aug 2014 10:09:12
Countinho is a fantastic player If you play him where He is deadly ( Dortumand Game )
You play him on the Flanks, He is near Useless.
Lovern was trying to impress more than playing against City.
Someone needs to write BR a strongly worded letter. Why play players out of position when u have so many alternatives on the bench? Coutinho should not be blamed for his poor form, his performances have repeatedly shown he can not play out wide yet BR persists with him when the sensible thing would have been to play Sterling ahead of Moreno and Markovic out on the right.
And its high time Sakho and Lovren get a run in the team. I have had enough of Skrtel. He has no positional sense whatsoever. If Jose had been our manager, he would have sent him packing a long time ago. Same goes for Johnson. While these personnel are around, expect the defensive woes to continue.
27 Aug 2014 11:00:22
Agree Indian, We should have won the game If not a point at City, All the players played at their best position.
City likes to play our game and Countinho would have been Sensational in the hole.
Harry stop it.coutinho has been poor this last two games not beacuse of his position.he is too inconsistent that's the problem
27 Aug 2014 13:16:01
Jessie
And He was brilliant against Dortumand. He needs and likes space in the middle, Drop deeps, picks the ball and then he is off with his little trickery and move.
Play him at Flanks or GK. He would do worse.
Whenever He has played in the hole, he has bee nothing short of Brilliance.
Coutinho is MORE effect playing through the middle, but he is not as bad as you make out playing wide either.
Coutinho was up against yaya, for a lot of the night.
I know ed001 thought Allen had a decent game, but at times, I thought Coutinho had dropped too deep to protect Allens inability to track toure getting forward, Allen seemd to shy away from him and Zabaletta. Just my personal opinion.
Coming up against arguably the best right back/top 5 right back in the world, and quite frankly one of the most gifted, strongest and fastest midfielders in the world, was never going to be an easy task. Especially when you have a brand new left back thrown into the team as well.
I do agree I think Coutinho works much better centrally, I've always said it. His vision can't be utilised as well, playing outwide.
Although I agree about Coutinho being better when played in the middle, there were numerous occasions against City where he found himself in the middle and just played a poor pass. Personally think one of the biggest problems Coutinho had on Monday was the fact he usually only had one player making a forward run ahead of him in Sturridge. He also needs to calm down a bit and consider playing the safe ball and keeping possession, rather than always thinking he can play the killer pass.
We need to revert back to 2 up top, and hopefully now with Balotelli we will, not only will this help Sturridge in taking some of the attention of the defenders off him, but also the players behind them as they have more attacking options to pick out when they look up.
On the case of Skrtel, I think a lot of the criticism he receives is unjustified. There have been games in the past where he's not put a foot wrong and hasn't received any praise from the fans, other games where he's made one mistake and been blamed for everything! Have any of you actually watched the amount of times he's had to come out of position to cover because Johnson is plodding back or has been easily skinned! I used to really like Johnson but over the last 2 seasons he has become a hindrance on the team. I am certain with Flanagan or Manquillo at RB our defence as a whole would perform a lot better.
Agree scarface.
I think if Lallana was fit he'd have started last night, I said a while ago, I expect Coutinho to play in games where we could need him to break through a defense like Hull, Stoke etc, but Lallana will play when we should look to retain the possession where possible.
To a degree I agree with the Skrtel comment, although for me, he has had 3/4 years to sort out Johnson, he's in charge of him on the field. He needs to communicate to him. Not that I think GJ would listen.
27 Aug 2014 17:22:38
Boom.
Coutinho - Liverpool's no 10
Countinho - little dracula in portuguese
Scarface, agree with all you said especially re Skrtel, some have an opinion of him that will not change. Bobatron, nice to see you have recovered from your brain transplant, I presume that's what you have had done as I actually agree with your post.
27 Aug 2014 08:57:11
greetings eds any up date on morenos injury?
Kind regards Tims uncle
{Ed002's Note - I have not seen anything from the club yet.}
27 Aug 2014 09:10:45
Hi
Just to say that Joao Teixeira is getting good reviews at the start of his Brighton loan career, two goals and at least one assist in 3 games.
Hopefully going to be a great loan for him, could be their player of the year if he keeps it up.
Cheers
27 Aug 2014 09:01:36
Anything the Eds can tell us about this Michael Ohana?
{Ed002's Note - Just a kid, I can't help. Sorry.}
27 Aug 2014 08:34:51
Assuming Lucas moves on I think we are desperate for a strong mobile tackling midfielder, doesn't have to be world class but good enough to perform at premiership level as a platform for out more creative players. i'm sure we must be running out of money by now so I wonder if Diame is still a possibility?
{Ed002's Note - What about Can?}
Can has has his 5minutes Ed. It's his turn to be hounded out now ;)
Yeah man what about Can. have people forgotten about him already? or do we need 3 more signings to complete the team?
27 Aug 2014 09:59:16
Emre Can needs game, If he isn't getting a game, How would your new replacement for Lucas would?
Gerrard needs help against mobile teams when playing the anchor role. Can should be there with Henderson further forward.
27 Aug 2014 11:08:39
Gerrard doesn't help me. He just needs to go. Be benched and become an ambassador or something. He is costing the team a lot defensively and yet his assists come in dead ball situations not in open play. His use is almost infinitesimal
Po0l007, no assists in open play, utter b******s.
27 Aug 2014 08:17:37
Our next signing should be jamie carragher to our coaching team solely for the defense he talked a lot of sense the other night while on monday night football!
27 Aug 2014 10:02:33
He was tearing Lovern into pieces the other day. Lovern's lack of pace is being questioned big time.
27 Aug 2014 10:36:08
Carra as defensive coach makes a lot of sense. could he do it aswell as Sky job? neville does the england gig aswell. good call payney
27 Aug 2014 07:29:50
Very early days but I think realistically, if we don't beat Spurs away our aim will shift from trying to become champions to just securing top 4 again. Just an opinion. Oh and I think Lazar should start aswel he looked great but Coutinho had a bad game
I never knew our aim was to be champions, another top 4 finish would be a successful season for me
27 Aug 2014 10:03:36
We would beat Spurs, Provided BR goes for the Kill early on rather passing the whole 84 mts.
27 Aug 2014 10:05:24
Jessie
Wrong, At this rate we would never become Champions. We should shed this low level mentality. How did City and Chelsea became Champions?
From finishing second, Adding 100 mill players, We should look for the title.
Boom
Last season was a good season but we achieved above expectations.
This season we have champions league football so added games.
Yes we've spent 100mil on players but that is purely because we sold our best player for 75mil.
If we had spent 100mil and kept saurez then i'd agree it should be the title, but under the circumstances i'd say top 4 is a god season.
The aim at every start of the season should be to win the league
Low mentality?maybe am just realistic about our chances.just because we spent over 100m doesn't mean we should automatically be frontrunners for the league.
We lost our best player and replaced him with players who might take more time to settle than expected.Maybe its you who needs to have a rethink
27 Aug 2014 11:06:40
Lavers
You are talking about the CL which we won 5 times. We aren't Spurs or Everton Being in the CL for the first time in 25 years.,
Common Buddy. We had Keane, Riera and Babbel to play in the CL.
So how is Chelsea, City and Arsenal doing the CL?
Its just about the Right Attitude and Mentality. We have the team and players, We need to Perform. Simple.
We didn't Overachieve, We socred 102 goals and worked hard to reach the CL. It wasnt a Miracle but an excellent performance on field.
Think Possitive and play to your potential.
If the Current Team couldn't win a Title, I don't see a Liverpool team doing it in near future.
Not new to the champions league as a club but for a few of our players it is new, the travelling mid week and a game at weekend will make a difference.
Last time we were in the champions league that always happened, we struggled for a performance at the weekend.
I think we can have a good run in the champions league, the style we play will trouble a lot of European teams and they won't handle our energy.
Just city and Chelsea look strong as a whole.
Our squad as a whole is looking the best i've seen for a long time, so finally next summer we can look at only quality players that will walk into our starting 11 instead of building a bigger squad.
27 Aug 2014 13:21:18
Lavers and Jassie
At this rate and with this attitude, We would never win the title, But would shower praises on City and Chelsea, who would continue to spend and improve in coming years.
Somewhere down the line We need to start.
UTD won the title with a below average team with ease.
Keep finding excuses.
No man; that is something Manchester Utd would do.
27 Aug 2014 13:36:48
Lavers
What If Next summer Real comes and buy Sturridge and Sterling to replace Benzema and Aeging Ronaldo?
Another 3 years of Transition?
I'd tell Madrid I wanted the ageing Ronaldo and Rodriguez in exchange.
Then after all our signings have settled in this season we will win the league.
27 Aug 2014 07:15:12
To Jessie Pinkman and Co:
Watch Hernandez vs MK Dons and have the audacity to tell me and the other LFC fans that he is better than Borini.
Broini would wipe the floor with the over rated Mexican who can only score tap ins. The rest of his attributes are no better than that of a Sunday league player.
27 Aug 2014 10:06:38
Indian
Nailed on. We had people here, Who would love Welbeck and Hernandez in our team.
Yes he is better than borini and by the way I don't judge players after one game.they are both strikers and chicharito is far better
27 Aug 2014 10:28:24
Jessie
Hernandez has been poor from almost 2 years. He does nothing other than tap ins. He isn't startring. Nor getting a game later.
How on earth is he better than Borini?
So Jessie, what about his first touch and dribbling which even Manchester United fans criticize all the time? Its not one game, Hernandez's flaws have been evident for years now. The guy cannot get into the first team ahead of Bambi Welbeck and Peralta in his national side. He is a poor player whose tap ins are also deserting him. At least Borini puts in a shift and can play anywhere across the front line.
Harry, the only people who would want Hernandez or Welbeck at the club would be secret Manchester United fans wishing to see us get relegated. Like ed001 said, Welbeck's an athlete, but a poor poor footballer.
All you keep saying is borini has a better first touch workrate and can play across the frontline which tbh he's not really good at.
When it comes down to scoring goals which really matters as a cf hernandez is a better player.I would take tap ins over workrate anyday
27 Aug 2014 13:31:34
Jessie
I don't know how poor Borini is, But there is no striker in the league or around Europe whose worse than Hernandez, that's a fact APPORVED BY SYDNEY AT UTT BANTER PAGE. YOU COULD HAVE A LOOK. HE REPRESENT MOST UTD FANS.
27 Aug 2014 05:00:12
Ed002, I've seen you be critical of the signings of both Luke Shaw and Alberto Moreno- which do you see as the better deal?
{Ed002's Note - I think Shaw was far too expensive so from a financial standpoint Moreno. From a footballing standpoint I would not want to say.}
Fair enough Ed cheers.
27 Aug 2014 04:59:55
Thanks for the reply Ed002
27 Aug 2014 14:20:51
Was the question communicated to Ed002 telepathically?
27 Aug 2014 04:59:42
Ed002 can you please give us a run down of proceedings that happen wed/thur when you return on the topics you mentioned. I would be really interested to hear your findings/ insite.
Thanks if possible
{Ed002's Note - Today sees a number of clubs discussing the concept of the breakaway league again, the level of allowable sponsorship in terms of FFP (the clubs wish to agree a number and present unified approach to UEFA), there is a discussion about the long-term future of Spanish television rights and a few other odds and ends will be discussed. There is a reception this evening hosted by one of the clubs and a sponsor. There will be various private discussions throughout today and tomorrow about players between various club representatives and various agents - some of which live here or have boats available to them. Tomorrow will see the Champions League draw and then representatives of the clubs in the same group will get together to sort out the order of the games - I am not sure who is representing Liverpool. Friday sees the Europa League draw.}
27 Aug 2014 05:07:46
eds, reds, posted yesterday asking if there was a balotelli song. Ed002 mentioned some they had heard and asked for suggestions. me and my son, 9, leighton have been going through 1 or 2 things and come up with this to the tune, oh balotelli
oh balotelli,
he's on the telly,
he's scoring goals,
he'll take us to the title,
i'm sure he f.g will,
o hea our pele,
oh balotelli, oh mario!
any good?
I'm surprised nobody has used the blondie song "Maria" yet as mario fits into it perfectly instead of Maria and then on the next line hero goes with mario perfectly too. Not a songwriter like so il let somebody throw the rest together.
What about this. To the tune of 'my old mans a dustman':-
Ohhhhh mario ballotelli he came to merseyside to partner up with Sturridge and keep our dreams alive, his haircuts just like Sakho's, he looks like Mr T and when he scores a goal, you'll sing this song for me. Ohhhhhhhh a Mario Ballotelli . . . . . .
Erm? I'd just tell your lad we loved it.
Eds reds regarding the balotelli song, some missing! and just a bit of fun with my lad
Should be 'sing this song WITH me' not for
Not blown away by your song Ozone but enjoying your posts this season. Keep up the fun and positivity
This one will do for me. Could easily catch on
27 Aug 2014 04:59:01
Regarding our transfers, Ed002 has said something along the lines of - lallana is our best buy, a future replacement for gerrard - whereas ed001 has said -he's an unneccesary purchase considering price and our options in this area.
Who do you reds agree with?
Ps if this isn't accurate or I have misinterpreted what has been said, I apologise, but I recall the eds saying something like this. I'm not trying to stir things up, just things in brings up an interesting debate! I'm torn myself, I can see how he's a leader, but not sure he can play in the deeper midfield role later in his career.
{Ed001's Note - I like Lallana as a player, I do think he will be excellent for us, I just think we already had Teixeira who could be better given the chance to play. Now Lallana has signed, when is that lad going to get a chance?? We already had Coutinho, Sterling and others who can play behind the strikers, even Lambert, so when are the kids going to play? They would need 4 or 5 injuries just to get on the bench.}
Both the eds are right to some extent. Lallana will offer the much needed experience in midfield and also cover for Coutinho who can be really inconsistent. Also a natural with a brilliant work rate.
On the other hand like ed001 said, he would block the progress of Suso and Texieira, we have already seen Ibe and Texeira being shipped out on loan. 25 million GBP could have been better spent on other positions such as CDM or GK.
Ed001, hello mate. With regards to your answer to this post I would ask would the youngsters get us into the top 4 CL positions? I am of the belief that it is economics that are forcing clubs hands which is a drastic shame for football itself. Where would the club be if we ended up 6th again?
For me Lalana is our best signing this window and SG will need to be replaced sooner rather than later. I would hope that the club find the best possible loan moves for our future to bring these youngsters on.
Surely we need to qualify for Europe next year and whilst I know our youth is excellent, I am not sure they are CL quality yet.
{Ed001's Note - I seem to remember Sterling being good enough to get us into the Champions League. How are the others meant to progress?}
Ed001 do you think the pressure of needing CL so sort of a pressure for BR to succeed is the reason why our youth players are having to go out on loan instead of staying and getting experience? I'd really much rather see our youth players play its more satisfying to see our youth breaking into the squad then buying a bunch of new players.
{Ed001's Note - yes, but I feel it is harmful to the long term chances of the club maintaining a position in the top 4 if we don't have a successful youth policy. We don't have the resources to buy our way into the top 4 each season.}
Ed001 when texiera proves he's better than lallana in training or in matches he will get a chance. That is how a squad works. When you're in the champions league you buy good players you don't leave gaps in your squad so players that show potential might make it. When the youth player is better than what we can buy or already have at the club that's when he gets his chance that or through an injury crisis. Footballers are only in your team while someone better than what you've got can't be bought for a reasonable marketcprice. The premier league is too competitive that is why kids don't make it in England. In England every premier league team can make a £5m signing & not play a youth player but buy an experienced player which is what's needed for a competitive league. If you're real, athletic, athletico, barca, bayern, dortmund then you can play kids because the majority of the time you're 4-0 anyway that is when you can afford to leave gaps in your squad for kids because half an hour of every game the game is over & won & nothing will change that whereas in England Liverpools 1st team can be 3-0 up with 20mins to go against relegation candidates who come back to draw 3-3 & blow the title. In England all of our players have to be of quality & you can't risk playing players that you don't know what will happen whereas in Spain & Germany & even Holland you can
{Ed001's Note - sorry but that is just crap. If you don't give them a go, you never know how good they are and they won't ever achieve their potential. Teixeira played one game last season and was excellent, yet he got nowhere near the team again, that is simply bad management. Then it is compounded by buying players to block his chances of ever getting another game. Ludicrously bad management. Short termism is what will kill this club and shortsighted people like you will cheer it all the way so long as they get someone good to play on FIFA.}
Yes I watch all the u21 & 18 games that are on lfc tv because I have short-termism :-) you wouldn't believe how much I love watching it when youth team players play in the first team. I'm excited for them, I would rather watch our kids play in a cup game than most of our first team in the premier league games but that doesn't change the fact no player is bought to block another they are bought because someone thinks they're better than what they have already, then it is entirely upto the other player to prove them wrong & be better than the other player like it or not that is how a football team works. My mum thought I had a 'man crush' on on sterling because from the day he came on at carra's testimonial I never shut up about him & got excited when he played etc. I should point out I am a year younger than sterling otherwise this post may seem odd. Also na na na na na (showing my age) before others try & use it against me, I was right about Lucas back in January. Although you've been right about much more than me definitely & none of this was a dig.
{Ed001's Note - sorry but that is complete nonsense, they are being bought to stop the club having to use youth players,. That IS blocking their path and it is short termism.}
They are being bought because the management don't think the youth player is good enough therefor the player doesn't even exist if he's not good enough players are transient employees & therefor only the very best & most elite young players only make it to a level acceptable to play for Liverpool
{Ed001's Note - rubbish, they are just afraid to give them a chance.}
27 Aug 2014 01:20:18
I was not aware BR does not always have final say and has in some cases been landed with players he has not identified or wanted himself. I find this infuriating! Surely the manager should be given full trust and be aloud to build a team he wants to play to his phelosophy? Personally think this is outrageous. In Rodgers we trust.
{Ed002's Note - Rodgers left to his own devices did a dreadful job of buying players - Aspas, Alberto, Ilori, Borini .... the list goes on. This is why the transfer committee exists at Liverpool.}
Cheers for response Ed. I agree Rodgers has been extremely hot and cold regarding transfers. Who had the final say in Suarez and DS out of interest? It's just quite Dissapointing to hear he is no longer fully trusted regarding transfers. I suppose I can't complain if people like Lazar Markovic prove to be a success. Certainly showed promise last night.
{Ed002's Note - The club would have known that Suarez would have been leaving this summer. The transfer committee has been in place for a while (about a year) now so this is not a new story.}
EDD002, excellent replies, as I said EDD sometimes people can't see the wood for the tree's, just out of interest EDD002 how many of his signings to date would say have been nailed on success's, for me 1, STURRIDGE, the like's of sakho, COUTINHO, ALLAN, MIGNOLET are all debatable. .
27 Aug 2014 00:31:53
Hi Eds, wondering if any of you know anything about this Chilean kid on trial at Liverpool at the moment, name's Mathias Pinto. Is much expected of him? Thanks, any info at all is appreciated!
{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}
26 Aug 2014 23:53:37
Any truth to the story in the star of Joe Allen to United for £20 million? Also they appear desperate for players surely we can milk another £10-20 million out of them?
{Ed002's Note - See earlier answer.}
27 Aug 2014 01:10:35
20m? I am sure that's a typo
We don't do business with Utd
Sell him.
26 Aug 2014 23:05:06
I thought it was great to see the subs come on and gives us an attacking threat rather thAn last seasons lacklustre options. Early in the season, some of the old problems, but some positives to help me through the pain!
26 Aug 2014 22:34:58
Ed 001, I'm really confused about the transfer business mentioned earlier. I was under the impression that Liverpool signed Markovic because we couldn't sign Shaqiri. Doesn't Brendan have veto rights if there is a player that he absolutely does not think will fit in with the team? Or, am I simply reading too much in to what was being discussed earlier. Thanks for helping me understand this better.
{Ed002's Note - Markovic was seen by the scouting team as a good talent and once it became clear that Chelsea were not going to take him this summer it gave the opportunity for Benfica to profit from the player and Liverpool to buy him. Brendan Rodgers is certainly part of the decision making process but of the five people involved two were at Manchester City when they were looking at Markovic when he was at Partizan. The same two who were at Manchester City when Balotelli was there interestingly.}
Thank you Ed, appreciate the feedback.
27 Aug 2014 09:36:49
Don't know about anyone else but I'm most excited about Markovic than any of our other signings. that's not to say I'm dissapointed with our signings but I think this kid has loads of Talent. loads of energy, loads of pace he looks like he's got everything only maybe a few of years short of maturity. Him and Sterling in a couple of years will be frightening.
26 Aug 2014 22:14:45
Ed fellow reds . Anyone got moyes's mobile number think LVG might need it.ha ha ha ha big well MK dons . Surprised it was only the 4 .
MK Dons might be criticised for putting out a full strength team against such soft opposition
26 Aug 2014 19:31:44
As many as 6 out
Assaidi
Robinson
Coates
Borini
Agger
Lucas
Possible gk on loan thursday or friday