Liverpool Banter Archive November 26 2015

26 Nov 2015 22:11:55
Even though it doesn't feel like it, we won. hopefully it gives the team more confidence.
I hate that referee, just slapping yellow cards all over the pitch and stopping the game every five minute. And what was that indirect free kick for. I used to think that yellow card is given if a player is wasting too much time.
Anyways all that's well that ends well. We achieved what we set out to do, although rather unconvincingly!

26 Nov 2015 22:38:38
I thought it was a good refereeing maybe other than the penalty that was very soft but at least he was consistent when disallowing Benteke's goal for physical contact. The yellow cards were deserved and so was the indirect kick. A GK can hold the ball 10 secs and then has to release it. It is not enforceable on the second but he literally held it for 20 secs.

26 Nov 2015 22:49:58
The rule is the rule. Six seconds is the rule. Mingo held the ball for TWENTY ONE seconds. What GK worth his salt does that and thinks he can get away with it? because it's not normally whistled as a foul doesn't make it any less a foul and a free kick inside the box. To make matters worse, he stands behind the wall for the free kick. What the heck? Mingo is to blame for that goal, completely. Stop having a go at the ref for applying the law. If Mingo needs to be told where to be during a free kick and/or to kick the ball long when no passing options are available then Grobelaar is right, he should be sold ASAP.

{Ed007's Note - It's one of my pet hates that the six second rule isn't enforced, that and players blatantly obstructing an opposition player to let the ball run out for a throw-in or a goal-kick - oh and the amount of foul throw-ins that go unpunished is ridiculous.}

26 Nov 2015 23:06:23
It's not time wasting, the keepers only supposed to get 6 seconds with the ball in his hands, first minute or last.

26 Nov 2015 23:24:51
I think it now opens up a world where every referee should be counting. The moment you punish this once you have to enfore it every time for me. The ref should have let it play on, there was 0 advantage being gained.
If you're going to blow for this, you will pretty much have to blow up everytime a player stand in front of a keeper at a corner for obstruction, every time a ball doesn't gov over the head at a throw in or have its original trajectory as upwards, every time players in the champions league and prem in a tight game take the ball to the corner and don't have their foot on it, nor is the ball moving, is once again obstruction.

Migs sure, probably kick it early, but I've seen plenty of keeper hold onto it for longer, especially after corners when they wait for all the players to run past them and assess the options. Daft call from the ref. He kind of pigeon holed himself into a corner and thus had to give the penalty which many would have let go when Benteke was held.

{Ed007's Note - You would think guys getting paid £1000's a week could follow the most basic and simple rules of the game though. If refs started clamping down on things they will soon stop, from the 6 second rule to diving and shirt-pulling.
You have to admit that 21 seconds is seriously ripping the hole out of it.}

27 Nov 2015 00:26:51
I agree fully with the ref.

27 Nov 2015 02:12:44
The ref gave Mingo every opp to release the ball but did not. 21 seconds? You must be taking the mick, then. The rule is the rule and if Mingo is too daft to do the most fundamental off all things at the GK position, then he should be sacked.

27 Nov 2015 07:39:50
The ref had every right to give a free kick, Mignolet was being rediculous and that's me being generous. And to compound it mignolet messes up both the wall and his positioning. At the end of the day though its a moot point, we won the game and hopefully ge learns from his mistakes. Happy days.

{Ed001's Note - I don't understand how anyone can complain about that free kick, the referee was being more than fair by giving him an extra ten or more seconds. For me Migs is lucky we were able to turn it around and get the win or he would be getting slaughtered for that stupidity.}

27 Nov 2015 08:14:51
I don't think any one complained about the ref, I just think if you're going to be that stringent on one thing, you have to be stringent on everything. I've seen keepers (especially cech) hold onto it for much longer than 21 seconds, just a bit of concistency would be nice in rule enforcement. Especially when it's that factual to enforce.

26 Nov 2015 21:38:45
For all those saying we need to get rid of Sturridge ; we used to have this thing called The Liverpool Way.

He's one of us. YNWA.

26 Nov 2015 22:04:43
There also comes a point where enough is enough and you have to be ruthless.

He's one of us? At the moment. If he was playing week in week out, doing well and a [ahem] bigger club came in he'd be off like the rest.

It's laughable now, past ridiculous. I don't care what the Eds say it's got to be psychological. It's seems now it only has to lead up to a game for him to get 'injured' rather than in a match itself.

That said, who's going to take him. Gutting really because what a talent.

26 Nov 2015 22:19:40
Shanks was ruthless when he had to be, as was Sir Bob. The Liverpool way is respect where respect is due.

26 Nov 2015 22:31:01
I really feel for the lad. Wish him a speedy recovery. Class player.

26 Nov 2015 22:40:50
I think the solution will have to be to pay him by games.

26 Nov 2015 22:45:18
I can't help but think that these types of comments are due to Gerrards book (pre Man U game) .

Let's see if you lot that want him gone change your tune when he's back. Same lot that want Coutinho gone.

Tip : The word you're looking for is fickle.

26 Nov 2015 22:51:59
Its not like he can help it John!

26 Nov 2015 22:54:46
Studge is currently irrelevant and of no use to us because he is made of paper mache. It is not an insult to state a fact which is that he can't stay fit and if this continues, the club will have a decision to make. Sorry to burst your bubble, Clarky but that is professional sports. If you can't stay healthy and get on the pitch, you're no use to the club and off you go at some point. I suggest you get used to that real quick or you'll be in tears for no reason if or when that happens.

26 Nov 2015 23:07:27
Kinda get the point, the wages is a downside but people starting to say he's not trying is bad, he obviously wants to play.

26 Nov 2015 23:40:59
He's on massive wages. That money could be going to a striker who plays and scores goals it's as simple as that.

27 Nov 2015 01:39:33
if the lad has been physically assessed by professional doctors to be not fit for sevice, then so be it.

It is what it is, the 'so called fans' should be behind the lad 100% in his recovery, and when '100 %' fit jurgen klopp will put him In his plans as he sees fit to do so

How can anyone come on here and bitch about him? People with absolutely no idea of sports science, sports psychology or any form of how the body actually works moaning and bitching about the lad, who wants to do nothing but play football for Liverpool football club needs to give there head a wobble.

You are coming on this site, which is meant to be for proper footy fans, and showing yourselves up to be nothing but spoilt little armchair supporters with nothing to do than play that stupid Xbox game and watch sly sports

I am absolutely baffled how the two editors, who put so much effort into site with no reward, have to put up with this imbecile stuff day in and day out, when all they want to create is a forum that presents a togetherness of LFC, and the Liverpool way and what it used to present, to the good honest working class people of Liverpool, and all Liverpool fans, scousers or not

Daniel Sturridge is a Liverpool player, if you can't support him through what he is going through. then walk alonfe.

{Ed007's Note - 2 EDITORS!!! It's 01:43 and I've been online for over 12 hours today... That's a yellow card mate - you need to spread the love :)

27 Nov 2015 01:57:46
Sorry ED007 lad, but these so called Liverpool fans bashing one of there own is not something that is just not acceptable

Funny enough my wife is Glaswegian (Cardonauld) and a massive hoops fan, and when I show her the comments she is appauled too.

{Ed007's Note - Oooft I bet you don't mess with her!}

27 Nov 2015 02:07:33
EDS007.a scouser and a Glaswegian? . what could possibly go wrong?

But yes, the trousers are hers, I think that was in the weddings vows, I think her Irish cousins wrote them 🙈.

{Ed007's Note - Sounds about right - I've got a sister whose husband had to go through some rigorous interrogation before he was allowed to sit down in my mam's.}

27 Nov 2015 02:18:57
Lol ED007.copy that brother.

{Ed007's Note - (yes)

27 Nov 2015 03:13:13
Top banter eds7 and Kemlynroad!

My piece on Studge, want the lad fit and playing for the redmen. I'm not happy with the studge bashing we are better fans than that. I myself got a pretty bad injury at 15 and never been the same again but mentally you get a block, if you feel a knock or twinge you want to stop not to make it any worse. That said sometimes you have to just get on with it and get past the mental block!

The lads class in form whatever has happened to him hope he sorts it out ASAP!

27 Nov 2015 07:45:48
Its not bashing to point out the facts. He is currently being paid to not play football. Lfc are not a club with the financial power to sustain that long term.

Regardless of the reasons for his constant injuries it is almost certain that the club will look to offload him if an opportunity arises to do so.

26 Nov 2015 20:09:17
Apparently Sturridge injured yet again? . recurrence of the same injury or something new?

Anyone confirm and or add more details.

26 Nov 2015 20:24:53
It has been confirmed by the club that he is out due a foot injury and would have a scan tomorrow.

26 Nov 2015 21:03:50
Not serious though eds is it?

{Ed001's Note - no one knows until he has a scan.}

27 Nov 2015 01:54:29
Last time someone had a foot injury was Hendo and he had to be out for 3 months. Sturridge will be out for the season then. Might as well start giving Sinclair game time.

27 Nov 2015 07:01:56
Its a new pair of socks and he hasn't worked the weave structure out yet, so it's causing a bit of pressure towards the ankle area apparently.

26 Nov 2015 19:57:26
As much as i like sturridge and wish he wasnt made of glass i feel it must be time we moved him on now.
We losing £££££££ on him every week when we could be paying a fit striker to score goals.
Its such a shame he's lethal when fit 😦.

26 Nov 2015 20:12:46
Not only is he lethal when fit, he is so good on the ball and his all round game there are few better strikers in europe than him when he is fit.

Unfortunately not only are his injury problems bordering on hilarity and are an actual joke, i'm beginning to seriously think his head is the problem, not his body.

Top players like suarez, ronaldo, messi, how many times do they get injured. Never. They all also work incredibly hard on their fitness.

Im starting to believe that either sturridge's injuries and niggles are all in his head, and that he needs to man up as carragher said, or he isn't looking after himself properly or training hard enough.

Either way, its becoming a joke. If this injury is anything more than a matter of days then i wouldn't be surprised if his position is under serious doubt.

26 Nov 2015 20:32:51
Messi is only back from injury.

26 Nov 2015 22:05:23
Knew someone would say that.

It doesn't take a genius to see that his injury record ovèr his career is relatively excellent. Week in week out scoring goals.

{Ed007's Note - Sssshhhh You're not allowed to talk about that!}

26 Nov 2015 22:15:29
Well said Dom and for the record I doubt anyone is more frustrated than sturridge. Hope its nothing major.

26 Nov 2015 19:49:29
Looks like I jinxed sturridge after saying I would love to see him up front fully fit how we played against city. Or is it a clever ploy from the club and perhaps we only brought him for medical research.

26 Nov 2015 19:05:11
Sturridge not even in the squad.

Foot injury apparently!

26 Nov 2015 19:10:06
Utterly amazing stuff. You just couldn't make it up anymore.

26 Nov 2015 19:11:15
. you couldn't write jokes like these. Except this really, really isn't funny.

26 Nov 2015 19:13:17
Anybody know if it's a niggle or a long term injury?

26 Nov 2015 19:23:01
Wassa you know exactly what kind of answers you will get for this question. With Sturridge its never short term. He was sent for a scan.

26 Nov 2015 19:27:48
Echo now reporting he going for a foot scan after complaining during training. here comes another 6 month out.

26 Nov 2015 19:40:31
So disappointed with the news. Was really looking forward 2 watching him back 2n. Is he a hypochondriac? ! Ha ha.

26 Nov 2015 19:42:40
ohhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyy GOOOOODDDDDDDD!

26 Nov 2015 20:33:19
I'm pretty sure he's more pissed off than us at the moment, it must be tough missing out on the Klopp revolution.
And I'm well pissed off, to be fair to the lad.

27 Nov 2015 02:17:38
Solution would be to put him on ice for 24 hours before each match, no training sessions
Get players to pay fines for touching Sturridge in training or the opposite to break him into physical contact.
Buy Sturridge motivational Audio Books for Christmas
Get the football whisperer Dr. Peters back.

26 Nov 2015 16:05:34
Anyone else missing the podcasts? Any chance of a return ed? Benny?

Is it because we haven't the same doom and gloom? I would like to listen to you two happy with the way things are now. instead of the Rodgers crap tactics analysis. A breakdown of kl oops weekly offering would be great :D.

{Ed002's Note - I don't know what the plans are - I was going to do a couple but I could not meet the required criteria.}

26 Nov 2015 16:29:05
Didn't they allow you to do the podcast in your g-string Ed002?

26 Nov 2015 16:32:54
Came on to ask the same thing. mondays are killing me with out my podcasts. if we promise to be good boys and girls?

26 Nov 2015 18:11:38
Tomorrow night I promise. Ps ed002, I'd have loved to do one with you but you're a very busy man, I have no problems with you going solo on one, I'd encourage it and would love to hear what you're going to discuss.

{Ed002's Note - I rather suspect that window has gone for a while Benny.}

26 Nov 2015 13:45:39
Quick question Ed's.
Which player were you really excited about joining Liverpool but never lived up to your expectations?
Also which player came to Liverpool with no fuss but turned out to be a star?

Probably, for me, kewell and Hyypia.

{Ed001's Note - Jari Litmanen, he never got a chance to show what he could do.
Steve Finnan, he just got better and better and became one of my all time favourite players.}

26 Nov 2015 14:10:24
Rob Jones. What wonder right back.

26 Nov 2015 14:27:42
I remember watching litmanen in one game at anfield and thought sheesh this guy is brilliant - - then he was gone! Did he get injured or just didn't get on with manager or what happened to end his Liverpool time?

26 Nov 2015 14:30:04
Total agree with ed . Houllier was more the defensive minded. So frustrating about litmanen . And I loved finnan.

26 Nov 2015 14:44:47
Fernando Morientes - what a let down!

26 Nov 2015 15:13:52
Ryan Babel was a disappointment, he showed flashes but all to rarely.

26 Nov 2015 15:24:15
Mark gonzeles. Quick but that's it!

26 Nov 2015 15:27:21
I loved finnan, he'd get a rating of 8 or more every week.

26 Nov 2015 15:32:17
Harry Kewel. What a let down.

26 Nov 2015 16:18:56
Joe Cole - like milner I thought he'd be a decent freebie. Sadly both will end up costing WAY more than they'll contribute.
Big Sami was our bargain.
Loved Vlad - if only for 2005 and the lovely stuff he's said about the club years later.

26 Nov 2015 16:52:28
Hyppia and Riera for me. Never heard of Hyppia until he played for us. He was a beast. So was Finnan. Riera I thought, would be a good signing but alas, was a flop who showed no desire and drive in his game. Had a few good perf but that was it.

26 Nov 2015 17:41:55
Last defender that could defend finnan Edd001.

26 Nov 2015 17:03:37
Morientes was the biggest disappointment. Bought for a modest fee. He was the most deadliest striker in air.

Kewel is another name. Followed him since the glory days at Leeds. He was fantastic talent ( what a team were Leeds back then ) .

26 Nov 2015 18:51:56
Titi camara, I remember thinking who the hell is he?

26 Nov 2015 19:30:46
Aquilani and then either Riise or Alonso.

26 Nov 2015 19:51:12
EMS will be balotelli :)

Morientes, Collymore and Kewell spring to mind as disappointing signings due to their contribution.

I really liked Hypia, Alonso was a steal at £10 million and I didn't really know much about him personally. And finally Patrik Berger.

{Ed001's Note - I remember Alonso as a huge signing, but that could just be because Toshack had raved about him continually for years beforehand. Paddy Berger was a big signing as it was after he had starred at Euro 96 and half the female population of the country were swooning over him. Especially me mam.}

26 Nov 2015 20:15:11
haha I was just going off my own personal knowledge 001,I hadn't heard much of Alonso but when I first saw him in action I was gobsmacked. I knew Berger had a good euros, but I wasn't aware of who he was before hand or how good he was at club level. I look back on it thinking he could have been a diao, diouf, poborsky, but he was a superstar (in my young eyes at the time)

26 Nov 2015 13:16:11
Hello Ed002, if you are around, I put forward a query to you in the European soccer pages. Have you had a chance to look through it?

{Ed002's Note - If it was the one about Mendoza then I answered it.}

26 Nov 2015 13:25:05
Just saw it. Thanks Ed002.

26 Nov 2015 12:10:49
Hey people new to the site been lurking on and of. going to the game tonight with my ten year old lad it's his first game carnt wait. As i am driving down could some one help me with where to park please. Cheers. Ynwa.

26 Nov 2015 13:14:32
It's hit and hope I find! Last one, the Bournemouth game, as I got out of the car, a stones throw from the stadium, a young nice looking fellow asked to look after my car for me. Lovely chap. Luckily there were a steward who was on the street for whole of the game lol. If you don't want to take that chance, there's plenty of car parks ranging from £10 to £20. Can't miss them really.

26 Nov 2015 14:08:12
Best convo I heard with one of those nice kids:
Aye mate I'll watch your car for a fiver, fella responded your ok mate my Rottweiler is in the car he will keep it safe, to which the kid replys that must be a well trained dog mate I hope you taught it to out out fires 😂😂😂😂, my advise pay the kids lol.

26 Nov 2015 15:43:09
There are two car parks outside of Anfield can't miss them. if you get there earlier enough you can try parking out on the road outside the houses bit of a walk upto the stadium.

26 Nov 2015 15:58:05
Park at least a ten minute walk away from the ground.

26 Nov 2015 10:20:08
I just want to say - many times people here slate the Liverpool fans despite the fact that I personally think are quite patient and become very enthusaistic with an slight sign of improvement.

Compare that to the United fans. Their manager took them after the most awful season in decades, next season took them to the CL, where they are still very likely to qualify to the next stage, they are second in the league behind Leicester with a very good chance (painful for me to say it but true) to win the title. Very solid defensively, some amazing singings in Martial and I think also Depay, Blind ad others, were luckiest int he world to keep one of the best goal keepers in the world agaisnt his will and they moan as if they are fighting relegation just because they don't score three goals ever week. I still can't forget that United fan who called 606 when Moyce was in charge and said he was burining his season ticket or soemthing. The most spoiled fan base ever.

26 Nov 2015 11:01:00
Never a good idea to compare fanbases.
We all have different opinions and different perspectives.

26 Nov 2015 11:09:31
. Did you even watch them last night. That was tje worst display I've ever seen from Manchester United . It may all look rosy on the outside but they are scraping results from the very bottom of the barrel and i fully expect Van Gaal to be gone by the summe.

26 Nov 2015 12:02:35
I will be happy LFC to be where they are. Scrapping results when you are not playing your best football is something all the big teams need occasionally.

26 Nov 2015 12:11:10
Liverpool were annoyed when we were playing poorly and not getting results. If I were a united fan I'd be pissed off, they were dire last night and have been before. Regardless of league position, football is a hobby, you want to be entertained, not bored for 90 minutes, and United have the right to expect that.

26 Nov 2015 17:29:06
Fano, u are in the minority in that dept. They might be second and yes, I would like to be where they are but not the way they got there. They've been bang average bordering on aweful since LVG got there and only made top 4 last year because a) the PL is becoming poor in standard and b) because all the other teams were so inconsistent that they made it by default. Imagine, they made top 4 despite not winning any of their last SIX games of the season. That would never have happened in 2010. Their perfs will only get worse and this time, they won't enjoy the good fortune they enjoyed Last season, IMO.

26 Nov 2015 07:13:58
Just a quick question for all those people with no clue about youth development and who think it is simply a case of getting as many as possible in the door, in order to increase the chances of a top class player miraculously appearing of his own accord. If it is simply about that, why are Liverpool reducing the numbers in their youth teams for this season and going forward into the future? Surely the 'stats' you were talking about mean they need more youth players in the academy not less? Or could it be that there is more to it than just bare numbers?

26 Nov 2015 07:29:24
So abit like kids in school, Less kids in class the more the teacher can devote time to improve the student, Whih then produces better results.

{Ed001's Note - correct mate. More coaches to players equals better results at the end. That is why England suffers so badly, there is a much higher ratio of qualified football coaches per player in the top footballing nations. Those coaches do more than just instruct, they devote time and attention, which improves a youngsters mentality, as they feel more valued and so work harder.}

26 Nov 2015 10:12:29
Yeah if you want to increase how many kids you have at the academy to improve your chances of finding a gem then you need to increase the amount of coaches you have and probably invest a lot in better and expanded facility's as well.
Not to mention making sure all these extra young players have a clear path into the first team or a decent loan club to go to develop.
That the hard part I think, how do you ensure all these youngsters get game time?
It's not just a numbers game.

26 Nov 2015 10:46:51
Ed, you probably don't want to talk about this any longer but I think you've misunderstood the point I was trying to make. Clearly coaching, environment, education and discipline are all vital, I don't think you sweep up a random bunch of kids, stick them on a football pitch every other day and hope for the best.

My point was about expectations. There are 92 academies of professional clubs in England who are all looking to find that special kid who will either bring greatness to the club or help finance it for a few more years.

But this entire system produces, on average, maybe 4 or 5 top quality players a year and that's been the case for a long time. These players are more likely to be produced by certain academies than others but even if Liverpool were one of those we'd be doing well to produce one every 5 years.

We haven't produced a truly class player in 17 years and that's an aberration. I know you believe that certain players could/should have made it at the top level were miss-managed and this is the area you and I disagree on. For me the academy has had a steady output of good players but, in recent years, no great ones.

Could this situation be improved, yes and we should always strive to do so, but in the future it's not a realistic expectation to have more than 2-3 established first team players who graduated from the academy. This is where the statistics come in, a good system will ensure that potential stars aren't lost through the cracks but if you don't have the potential coming through the door to begin with you've got no chance.

{Ed001's Note - who on earth said they expected more than 2-3 established first team players to come through the academy? The idea is that each class produces players who can be sold for a profit, and one to go in the team. You are again making no point. Nobody is expecting 18 squad members to come through the academy, nobody has said they expect that, so why are you even trying to make it into an issue? Basically you are saying that you are making no point, using numbers that are meaningless to make no point, to waste everyone's time.}

26 Nov 2015 11:36:05
Half the posters on this site Ed, including you. Wisdom, Rossiter, Brannagan, Sinclair, Chirivella, Ojo, Kent, not to mention Teixeira, Ward, Ilori and Markovic (youth not Academy players) are constantly on these pages as future stars of Liverpool. I'd love it if they all turned out to be brilliant but if someone offered me 3-1 odds that less than three of these guys would still be on Liverpool's books in three years time I'd bite your hand off.

{Ed001's Note - don't talk crap. We are talking about finding out if they have the ability, rather than just leaving it as potential ability until it is too late. No one is saying we expect them all to make it. This is pathetic. You are just making up reasons to have a dig at other people over things only you believe. No wonder you were such a staunch supporter of Bodgers, you are deluded. Not one person has said they expect the team to be made up of youth academy prospects. So you are just picking a fight over nothing. This is almost as stupid as your support of Rodgers was.}

26 Nov 2015 12:27:18
Ed, you've advocated first team roles, not just potential, first team roles for Teixeira, Ward, Wisdom, and Chirivella, that's in just a 5 year age group. I imagine if I looked in the archive there'd be more. I'm pointing out that you have an unrealistic expectation of the ability of our academy graduates.

Why is this important? Because you get angry, disappointed and defensive when the one's you back get dropped, you lose any sort of impartiality on the subject, look how you've responded to this thread? You've made every excuse under the sun for Ilori, from bad loans, lies by the management or just incompetent coaches who can't be trusted to evaluate his ability. Not once have you given any credence to the idea that he's just not good enough which is by far the most likely reason he can't even make the bench of the bottom club of the premiership.

Anybody who challenges your views gets dismissed as delusional or has scorn poured on them no matter how much the evidence suggests you're wrong. You have a go because I supported Rodgers but this is the exact reason why I think you and others were wrong in your assessment of him. He got rid of players that you had an over-inflated opinion of and you hated him for it.

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? Liar is the word I am thinking is right for you. Not once have I said they should be definite first choice, I have said they should be given a chance, so you are lying. Straight out lies. I do not have these expectations you are making out at all. I am saying they should be given the chance to prove if they are good enough, rather than being dismissed out of hand like your beloved loser who preceded Klopp did.

The annoyance in this thread is because you are a liar and making up lies and being an absolute moron with false claims about me. You are the reason I am annoyed, not the players being left out or sidelined or playing below any expectations you are making up. Excuses? I have made no excuses for Ilori, I have pointed out that we can't judge him until he is given a chance. You are again lying because you can't accept that your beloved Bodgers was failing the club. He was given crap loans, he was told lies by Rodgers, as were many others. I don't know where you got the bull about it being incompetent coaching, that is just you making up more lies in your head.

As for hating him, I never once hated Rodgers. You are acting like a pathetic 5 year old with a grudge because your beloved Rodgers was booted for failing the club. What players did he get rid of that I had an overinflated opinion of? More lies from you. You are making stufff up and it is pathetic. If you spent so much time and effort supporting the club and its players instead of the previous manager that got sacked for failing, we would all be better off.}

26 Nov 2015 14:58:33
You said you'd be happy with Ward in goal, you've said we didn't need Clyne when we had Wisdom, you've said you'd replace Allen with Chirivella. Having checked I will concede you said you wanted Teixeira to have a run in the first team which is different to advocating him a place but it hardly smacks of lieing.

Ed001's Note - the defence is the weak point for me, I would be happy with Ward in goal

Right back is a worry for me, Wisdom I like, but I still remain unconvinced by Clyne

{Ed001's Note - Kolo is much more mobile than Allen, so that makes little sense as a reasoning to use him instead of Kolo. Branagan is not a holding midfielder, it would be Chirivella for that role from the youth teams. }.

{Ed001's Note - and what does that prove? That you need to get out more, because it shows nothing else other than that. Show me where I say they should be first choice for the future, rather than where I say I would be happy to see them given a go. Oh wait you can't show that because it never happened.

This is embarrassing, not quite as embarrassing as your pitiful attempt at statistical analysis, but close. You need to get out more, and stop crying over the sacking of your beloved Rodgers. He is gone, he failed miserably, move on and get a life please.}

26 Nov 2015 16:01:32
Yes, bringing up evidence that directly contradicts the claims you've just made about me is poor form isn't it.

As for Rodgers, you brought him into this, not me (which isn't surprising as he has nothing to do with the point I originally made) .

26 Nov 2015 16:01:32
Yes, bringing up evidence that directly contradicts the claims you've just made about me is poor form isn't it.

As for Rodgers, you brought him into this, not me (which isn't surprising as he has nothing to do with the point I originally made) .

{Ed001's Note - you have not brought up any evidence. Are you really trying to claim that is evidence? You can't be that incapable of understanding surely?

This is idiotic, you have brought up no evidence to support anything you have claimed throughout the threads. It is just made up stats, followed by made up statements, followed by a few comments that do nothing you claim they do. Just give it up. I am getting bored of this now. I would have more joy teaching a 5 year old why Einstein got his thinking on quantam entanglement wrong than teaching you statistical analysis or even how to read and understand what has been said.}