Liverpool Banter Archive May 26 2016

 

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26 May 2016 20:33:48
everyone fearing coutinho will leave. Don't forget he only signed a new long term contract last year, he still has 4 years left on his deal which means LFC won't have to worry about him going on a free the next season like sterling. LFC are definitely in control of his future so there shouldn't be any panic. I think he is very unlikely to leave unless a bid of more than 50-60 million came in which i doubt any team including Barcelona won't even consider.

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27 May 2016 00:31:14
Ya I do and it looks like we looking at players who can play in his postion but I would love him to say and give him the number 8 and say 1 more season and than you can leave if you what to.


27 May 2016 01:09:58
I think we're missing the point here slightly.
Whatever Jurgan Klopp decides to do, the club and the Fans should back him. If he thinks Coutinho should go or stay, then so be it.
Klopps a born winner and a champion. He's one of the top 5 managers in the World. He's not Brendan, this guy is world world class, and he needs to be able to build an entire squad and no matter if he sells Coutinho and brings in a £1million pound player from the 3rd league in France to replace him, we need to be behind him and believe.


27 May 2016 02:43:27
Blind faith is never a good option Dbol. I believe Klopp knows what he's doing but he's not infallible. Actually i will totally retract those statements if Caulker wins player of the season next year!


27 May 2016 02:49:03
Caulker has already left.


27 May 2016 07:24:34
If courts decides he want to go then so but it, get rid. Great player, no question, but if he's not up for it and wants a change then go. As klopp said, he won't stand in anyone's way. Pleading with a player to stay is like pleading with the missus to stay if she want out (not that I have ever had to do that like), they will eventually leave, might just be delayed slightly n things won't be the same - delaying the inevitable. Sell him, get a good fee, n move on. But is speculation anyway, he loves it at LFC n loves it with klopp. Why move just yet?


27 May 2016 09:44:47
Nah I've had that view for the past 25 years and it's got us nowhere mate. Infact we've just fell off.
Time for the club to follow a winner.


27 May 2016 06:12:43
Dbol

Tactically Klopp isn't inside top 15 let alone top 5. Rafa Benitez is 10 times better than him any day. I agree blind faith on any manager would leave us accepting Borini's and Assaidi ( All cheap and hidden Gems back in those days ) .


26 May 2016 19:46:31
Hi ABO
How many games in his time COUTINHO has been here, has he come of the pitch and people have gone MOTM, he is a cameo player and I'm pretty sure
KLOPP can get someone and he knows that.

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27 May 2016 00:15:39
WHAT?


27 May 2016 01:05:35
Someone's pi**ed.


27 May 2016 03:54:48
Your post says how "much" you know about football and Coutinho.


27 May 2016 07:55:40
Coutinho dominates games in pockets of magic. I think that's what he means.


27 May 2016 08:10:16
Genuinely not getting your point but as you asked, he's been MOTM for liverpool 12 times in 96 games. Which works out at 12.5% of games played.


26 May 2016 23:48:51
Mané 'interest' cries out of the club trying to force Bayern/ Götze's hand, to me. You don't just give up on a target that a club is actively looking to sell overnight like that, and replace him with one no-one has heard of is registering any previous interest in.
Also while Mané isn't a bad player him changing the game and scoring the winner (or was it the equaliser, I've blanked it out? ) against a defence featuring Martin Skrtel at St. Mary's a few months ago is incomparable to Götze changing the game and scoring the winner against a Javier Mascherano led defence in front of 90,000 fans in the Maracana.

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27 May 2016 00:12:31
Or it could be that we want Mane seeing as be have no pace on the wings.


27 May 2016 00:19:13
Because Javier Mascherano is such a good central defender.


27 May 2016 00:32:18
Oh we could be after them both to replace coutinho.


27 May 2016 05:48:36
We want players who have the desire and passion to play for LFC.


27 May 2016 08:09:48
Mane scored 2 against us in that game.


27 May 2016 09:13:32
And missed a Penalty as I recall, Ron. I Still don't want him at 20 million plus.


26 May 2016 23:19:58
I don't know if this is true or not but it sounds like Liverpool have turned their attention from Mario Gotze and are instead pursuing Sadio Mane of Southampton.

Now, that is a player I wouldn't mind having. Mane would be a quality signing, a signing who already has Premier League experience under his belt and would add blistering pace to our side. I think Mane is just the player we need to help us push on.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Jordon Ibe goes the other way. Southampton are interested, and Watford too I believe, and that might lower the asking price for Mane, making him a little more affordable. Mane would cost us more than 20 million however, that's for sure.

Anyway, thought I would pass this along. It also seems like Dahoud is of interest to Liverpool, which ED001 has already conformed, but I doubt that deal will go anywhere. Dahoud would cost around 20 million and Mane more than that.

Liverpool would need to move on some players before that, in my opinion. Or be left in the awkward position of having an even more bloated team, on high wages and any teams interested in our players will know how desperate we are to move players thereby leading to cheap deals. Which is not a good sign when we paid 35 million for Benteke and 15 for Balotelli etc.

I think Liverpool's really challenge this transfer season isn't so much players in but rather players out. We should start moving a few as early as possible. I'm hoping steps are being made to do that because otherwise we will have a lot of unhappy players next season.

YNWA.

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26 May 2016 23:26:44
Honestly we should just stop signing southampton players because its a joke at this point and never seems to work out. I've not yet seen a southampton player of signficant quality where you know there'll be good wherever they go, they're all risks. No more bloody risks.


27 May 2016 01:12:07
No Prem players thanks. Want some Germans and maybe a polish striker.


27 May 2016 01:26:34
I've always like Mane, think he's exactly what we're missing, a direct, pacy goalscoring winger.

As for Southampton, you can argue we've overpaid perhaps but Lovren, Clyne and Llalana weren't massive risks and all ended up being important 1st team players under Klopp while costing not much more than Balotelli, Benteke and Markovic. Now those where risks!


27 May 2016 03:59:26
Another Saints player and an inconsistent and highly indisciplined one at that? I don't want any Saints player here anymore. Why? because if we actually do our homework, we can get better players but it seems scouts are just lazy or have we outsourced our scouting to Southampton's scouting team?


27 May 2016 08:11:57
Mane - good player, poor attitude. Don't know why we're targeting him over other options.


26 May 2016 23:44:52
Lallana permanent and ibe on a season loan for mane no problem.


26 May 2016 21:25:05
Ed002, just want to find out. Loyalty bonus, is it something that exists in all leagues across Europe?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you think a "loyalty bonus" is. If you tell me that I will answer your question.}

26 May 2016 23:03:22
Just reading the Express ed and a certain Mr Joyce has suggested that were after Sadio Mane. Any truth?

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{Ed091's Note - the previous post from redmen reus, i read as sane, not mane. so apologies there reus.
as for mane, I dont know of any interest.

26 May 2016 23:16:14
Oh no. Not more Southampton.


26 May 2016 23:19:07
Cheers mate. Ed002 any ideas on this mate? If no interest like ed091 has suggested then i need to question myself on trusty Joyces credibility!


{Ed002's Note - I don't know.}

26 May 2016 23:41:52
The Guardian and The Times are now reporting that there is interest in Sadio Mane from Liverpool.


26 May 2016 23:46:07
Don't worry about mate.


27 May 2016 04:00:56
Spot on, Workshy.


26 May 2016 22:47:39
Are we or any other prem teams looking at Jordan Lukaku? Cheers.

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{Ed091's Note - Im not clued up on JL, fr

26 May 2016 22:41:20
Is it true we are looking at mane eds.

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{Ed091's Note - He is expected, if he moves at all, too head to man city

27 May 2016 02:51:39
Man City? I doubt Mane will head to City. Do you mean Sane?


{Ed091's Note - yes AG, I misread.

26 May 2016 21:23:12
Hi Eds

Hope all is well and thanks for ongoing updates.

Really enjoy the live match chats- is there any chance we could have the chats open occasionally with the eds online to answer questions like a live q and a?

Thanks.

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{Ed091's Note - I know benny baller and ed001 have done live video Q&As before. Best of messaging in, in the morning when 001 is online

26 May 2016 16:55:15
Hi Eds.

Any updates on Sakho?

If not when will we know for certain?

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Early June.}

26 May 2016 18:27:50
Why has everyone suddenly got the jitters about coutinho and is slagging him off as a player?

Barcelona have looked at him a while back, then bought other players, then he lost form. Unless they flog a few players they won't even have a damn to give about signing him, nevermind making him their first choice, which quite frankly, i just don't think he's good enough for them.

Side note, i'll be a bit pissed off if we sign guerriero. Never seen him play but the very idea of spending money on moreno 2.0 gives me jitters.

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26 May 2016 19:00:38
Because in his last game he wasn't very good. So he must be sh*t. Some people on here can only remember back as far as one game ago.

To be fair though I'm not saying he should go but I feel arguably our best spell of the season coincided with coutiniho being on the sidelines.


26 May 2016 19:12:46
Sorry but how do you know he is like Moreno if you never saw him play? Just because he is attacking fullback doesn't mean he is the same player.


26 May 2016 19:13:18
Hey Wool, i wonder if those rumours have appeared after Chilwells injury last night for the u21's
Dont worry buddy i don't think klopps daft and all the rumours will surround Jose and Pep soon enough
I think Klopp will have a good idea what we need.


26 May 2016 22:34:13
It's doing my head in a bit, everyone (naturally) loves Phil, Ed1 mentions he may leave and all of a sudden he is overrated, inconsistent and nobody cares if he goes. , he is a great player! I'd be gutted if he leaves, but life goes on doesn't it. Why bitch about it, it won't stop the inevitable.


26 May 2016 23:32:40
He plays at wing occassionally and both eds have said he neglects defensive duties to get forward a hell of a lot. I just don't see that as a significant improvement.

Personally i have seen our fullbacks let us down for too long, especially left back. Don't think we've ever had a decent one in my lifetime, not that i can remember. Finnan was probably the only decent right back I've seen for us as well as arbeloa but even he wasnt brilliant. i'm counting on flanagan and clyne to step it up over there.

Personally i just want fullbacks that are serviceable going forward but not electric. I'd much rather see them being compentent defenders, someone like fuchs or hector. Leicester have shown you don't need fullbacks like madrid and Barcelona to succeed. The premier league clubs have been conned into thinking that is the way to succeed.


26 May 2016 18:59:30
What makes you think Guey is Moreno 2.0 If you haven't seen him play? Do you let other people make up your mind for you?


26 May 2016 17:38:19
Thought I'd put this out there, we are linked with both Chillwell and Guerreiro, and if they both sign.

It has been mentioned that Guerreiro could play left mid, but would you give Moreno a chance in left midfield?

If we don't manage to sell him and we do sign the two above he could prove useful as a bench player. Just putting out there anyway not saying it's my choice.

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26 May 2016 17:45:37
I wouldn't bother. Moreno, in my opinion, has very little game intelligence. There is the rare bullet shot that is on target but I don't think his crossing is good at all or his awareness of team mates. If we get a sensible offer I'd move him on.


26 May 2016 18:29:04
No, Moreno's crossing is abysmal, he's all pace and nothing else. If his attacking prowess made up for his defensive incompetence, I wouldn't mind him sticking around instead of us signing Guerrero but it seems like Guerrero has a much better attacking output to make up for his defensive deficiencies.


26 May 2016 18:45:22
I completely agree jonesred. He's still extremely young and I reckon he would be a decent winger. He's not good at defending, so push him up the pitch!


26 May 2016 21:57:33
The only decent attacking plays I see Moreno make is to distract the fullback for the split second coutinho needs to go past him.


26 May 2016 20:15:33
Reds moreno was a winger originally- moved back because he wasn't up to it. I've said it before-he was like it at sevilla but we still signed him! Bertrand qas available at the time - less money! !


26 May 2016 20:31:17
He's not good enough in attack either though.
He's really ineffective going forward and back, you could almost forgive him if he had scored 10, assisted 10 and made so many key passes but he hasn't.
His pace and a wicked shot are the only attributes he has, he can't cross, pass, beat a man or time his runs properly when going forward, why anyone thinks he will make a good winger is beyond me.


27 May 2016 04:03:43
Moreno is hopeless and has been since he got here, end of.


26 May 2016 17:35:05
I presume we're after Gaston Ramierez now he's been released by Southampton Eds.?

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26 May 2016 18:45:48
One that got away! Haha.


26 May 2016 19:12:41
Shows how unpredictable the transfer market can be. People were up in arms when we didn't sign him.


26 May 2016 19:32:41
It doesn't show how unpredictable the transfer market is. It shows that most posters (me included) have no real clue of a good player and if they are good enough for Lfc.


26 May 2016 17:20:52
Question for eds. Is there a different mentality with players now compared to years back? It seems so many base their movement on champions league. Totally get that champions League gives a bigger profile but is seems more often than not youngsters moves backfire as in they are not starting, their developemnt slows, etc. Are agents pushing them? Are they just naive, stupid or cocky? Just wondring because it just seems like a poor career move for anyone unless they are just really that good or that age or develoment state were they are near their peak. I come from a fan prospective obviously but still baffeled.

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{Ed001's Note - yes it has changed a lot.}

26 May 2016 17:10:12
Can somebody tell me if we were to sack sakho do we get compensation through insurance or do we lose everything and the player is free to go to another club after his ban?

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26 May 2016 17:47:23
He would be off the wage bill. Other than that I doubt FSG would be too bothered. Compensation would require a lengthy, damaging, expensive court case which we could probably do without.


26 May 2016 17:56:54
I believe he is free to go.


26 May 2016 16:59:43
Besides Barcelona, what teams have interest or scouted Couthinho? Hate to see him go, so influential, our hot and cold streaks have directly followed his form this year.
Coric looks class, great vision. With no europe, signing him would end Goetze pursuit (and the silliness), I would assume, as Coric needs games to develop.

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26 May 2016 19:04:59
I think Bayern had an interest a while ago, not sure about now.


26 May 2016 19:44:41
Over the past two years, Barcelona, Bayern, Real, Chelsea, Atletico and Porto have all shown an interest in Coutinho.


26 May 2016 16:31:52
Does anyone think that sturridges injury seems a bit dodgy, klopp has seemed to manage him well and keep him fit and then as soon as he goes away he gets injured again? Does he train differently with England? The guy frustrates me so much.

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26 May 2016 16:50:27
Why worry, he's not missing any LFC games at the moment.


26 May 2016 16:50:27
Why worry, he's not missing any LFC games at the moment.


26 May 2016 17:03:30
Depends what the injury is really, I don't think its a major one, just a knock.


26 May 2016 17:33:10
Yeh but if it is true he'l be out til Christmas at least.


26 May 2016 17:56:06
I guess him training at liverpool is 60/ 70%. and klopp is fine because it keeps him fit. You can tell he isn't 100% fit as every other player has an extra 10 % under klopp and apart from keeping fit ie muscle injurys he isn't as quick or sharp than under brodgers

I think at england if he is seen to be doing any less than 100% it will look like he isn't assed rather than protecting himself and he has to try and prove himself above vardy and kane wheras at the pool he is pretty much a gurateed starter.

Dont forget klopp made him train for like 20 straight days before selecting him and i rekon studge has gone sound ill do that but it won't be at 100 %

Just my tuppence.


26 May 2016 16:06:10
If we sell coutinho then we can kiss goodbye to any form of challenging. he is our best player, he started to look tired at the end of the season and out of sorts a bit but so did most of them. he is a brilliant brilliant player and anyone who doesn't mind him going clearly has no clue what there on about and only remember the last few games of the season. he can get us in the top 4 next season and maybe more. he's the kind of player you build the team around not get shut of him. I'd be doing everything in my power if I was klopp to keep him at the club.

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26 May 2016 16:33:05
Coutinho won't go anywere.


26 May 2016 16:51:38
If he wants to go, he goes. I'm not aware that he's agitating for a move but Kloppo won't want anyone who isn't committed.


26 May 2016 16:54:35
Well that all depends on who we sign and how they do doesn't it. And how the players we signed last year do in their 2nd season.
If we were to go out and get 2 wider players for instance who hit the ground running they would probably easily cover what we would lose from selling Coutinho.


26 May 2016 16:51:38
If he wants to go, he goes. I'm not aware that he's agitating for a move but Kloppo won't want anyone who isn't committed.


26 May 2016 16:54:35
Well that all depends on who we sign and how they do doesn't it. And how the players we signed last year do in their 2nd season.
If we were to go out and get 2 wider players for instance who hit the ground running they would probably easily cover what we would lose from selling Coutinho.


26 May 2016 17:28:09
You would like to think he'd see who we buy and give klopp one season. The grass isn't always greener somewhere else. Remember when rafa signed for the club and wanted owen to stay for another year and what happened? We went on to win the champions league and owen warmed the bench at madrid.


26 May 2016 18:05:08
Lol koppdogs if only it where that easy, we've constantly sold our best players and not been able to replace them and as a result we've been on the slow decline. If coutinho goes we will end up with a player with huge potential that is young and isn't really that experienced at this level and then it all goes downhill from there. If I had confidence in our handling of a sufficient replacement it wouldn't be the end of the world but as it is, we are just selling our better players, not replacing them and becoming more and more average. We need to keep coutinho and bring in some quality otherwise we are in big trouble.


26 May 2016 15:49:06
Questions for the Ed's.
In light of Leicester's Premiership win, do you think teams will change there transfer strategy? OR do you still envisage a silly transfer season with marquee signings at extortionate prices.

I know Klopp and Liverpool are being linked with virtually everyone and anyone, I just feel signing players to fill a need would suit us far better then the supposedly BIG name signings.
Your thoughts as ever would be appreciated?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

26 May 2016 17:13:32
I highly expect the premierships record transfer spend to be completely blitzed. And probably a whole lot of clubs record signings to be beaten too.


26 May 2016 18:09:20
Haven't we always tried to sign players that we need or who fit the system. We don't always get them but that's what we always try and do. If anything, these transfers are to build a brighter future that may not even exist. I and many others would want signings that are at the top of their game now so we don't continue declining. There will always be youngers coming in and that's great but add some experience as well. And no before the morons come through, I don't mean marquee or exotic names.


26 May 2016 23:36:10
Sorry Kman but i would say we have done the exact opposite. We buy swathes and swathes of players not of the quality, experience or positions we need. Every summer. Without fail.


26 May 2016 15:40:56
The Liverpool Echo is reporting that the only issue surrounding a deal for Chilwell will be agreeing a transfer fee.

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26 May 2016 16:44:55
Ah. The old fee. We meet again.


26 May 2016 16:44:55
Ah. The old fee. We meet again.


26 May 2016 14:53:13
Any Interest from Liverpool in Ronny Medina ;)

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26 May 2016 16:20:03
Good name, sign him up 😎.


26 May 2016 17:30:55
Cue a chant to Tone Lōc's Funky Cold Medina.


27 May 2016 00:21:01
Scored 18 goals in one match. Maybe we could swap him for Balotelli?


26 May 2016 14:37:04
Ed001, do you think the players linked with us are good enough to challenge this year, or do you believe Klopp has looked at them for a challenge in a few seasons?

Baz.

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{Ed001's Note - I think they are good enough if managed correctly.}

26 May 2016 15:24:03
Cheers Ed, I have faith in Klopp and his man management skills. I don't want use to get massively further into debt going for already big established names.

Baz.


{Ed001's Note - same here, I would rather we looked to buy the right players, in the same way Leicester do.}

26 May 2016 17:33:47
18 months ago we would not be saying that Leicester bought the right players. Just the opposite. What's happened at their club for such a turn around? Did they just get lucky with Mahrez and Kante?

Makes it very apparent that there is such a fine line between success and failure.


26 May 2016 14:32:00
is pellegrini going to become evertons next manager is it a fact or just a rumour.

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26 May 2016 14:57:48
soon to be fact, probably why they were linked with a £40m bid for joe hart.


26 May 2016 15:25:10
I would expect that a few Man City players may follow. I hope that Pep struggles at MC.

Baz.


26 May 2016 14:27:43
i know a lot has been said about Gotze but in all honesty i don't want him at liverpool since he came out and said he wants to stay at Bayern because he has been told he will have to fight for his place and he will most probably be on the bench so do liverpool want players who want to sit on the bench instead of playing football, i know he wants a big payday by seeing his contract out which is also a worry because that means he is motivated by money and not winning things, so i hope we don't buy him to be honest, i would rather have a player who wants to play football for us instead of counting his money while sitting on the bench.

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26 May 2016 15:08:42
As ed002 has reminded us on numerous occasions footballers are generally not very bright creatures, hence the flip flopping that goes on at this time of year, i'm staying, i'm leaving etc, we even get players who want to leave a club because they want to play in the champions league, who then join a team not playing in the champions league. I predict gotze will not be at Bayern come august, its just taking a while for the penny to drop for gotze to realise that Bayern do not want him.


26 May 2016 14:15:22
If guerirro is just like moreno (not good defending) then why sign him? can sign someone for future in that money?

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26 May 2016 14:31:53
Could be a Coutinho replacement as he is a better left winger than left back.

So far in his career he has played 41 games on the left wing scoring 8 and assisting 5. At left back he has played 74 times scoring 2 and assisting 3.

He is essentially a much better version of Robbie Brady. Can play either position well, but is better in my opinion on the wing. He's only 22 as well.


26 May 2016 15:09:24
When did you decide coutinho was leaving Adam?


26 May 2016 15:15:22
If he and chillwell are a upgrade on Moreno that's all we require, personally I would like hector but if this guy arrives I will give him a chance, and before posters start Moreno has had every chance, the fact is he is getting worse, he offers nothing going forward or back, and i'm sure that klopp does not intend to spend next season yelling at his left back at every match.


26 May 2016 15:33:01
Definitely not a replacement for coutinho.


26 May 2016 16:22:21
I didn't. He decided it himself.

Besides I was only suggesting it as he can play in Coutinho's position.


26 May 2016 14:08:52
Dahoud too expensive, Zielinski doubtful because of udinese being rightly annoyed with us, coric a possibility. I know the eds don't like most likely questions but I just wondered who the eds see as most likely at the moment?
Also with the mirror reporting we are walking away from lucas alario do the eds see us being interested in another striker?

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26 May 2016 14:35:44
Coric must be highly unlikely with half the world interested.


26 May 2016 15:17:35
Depends what we offer him annie, if we were to offer him 1st team football that could swing it in our favour, also depends on what klopp has said to him on the phone.


26 May 2016 17:35:00
I think the European football may be a factor. However if Klopp can persuade with a sole season adjusting to the prem with regular first team football at such a young age, it may be the better thing for him than moving to a Barcelona say. Working with Klopp may also be another plus factor for him. He could move to a Madrid and hardly play at all, Odergaar springs to mind. Not comparing the two in ability but worth noting.

To be honest I haven't seen the guy play and never heard of him before we were linked to him. Upto now I've been happy with the arrivals, and with the Flannaghan situation it's like having a fourth new player.


26 May 2016 13:57:48
Hi Eds,

Do you think Liverpool will look to bring a striker in given sturridges latest injury setback and bentekes departure looking likely or do you think we will take our chances with origi, Ings and firmino?

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing changes because of Sturridge unless he is sold.}

26 May 2016 15:23:25
His long term future in football does not look good if he cannot stop being injured, klopp cannot hope to build a attack around a player that is always injured, I would build my attack around origi and firmino with ings backing up, and yes I know that all 3 have suffered injuries last season, but with the exception of ings who suffered a serious injury the other 2 recovered quickly, with sturridge its a case of waiting for his next injury to occur, he is becoming a luxury, but is it one we can afford to carry?


26 May 2016 13:19:15
Hi Eds,

Regarding left backs have liverpool looked at a guy like Mendy from Olympique Marseille very strong lad? and what is the obsession with attacking backs?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

26 May 2016 13:41:27
Barca not willing to pay anything remotely close to £50m for Coutinho. He won't be going there.

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26 May 2016 13:13:59
Hi ed001,
Not being funny, but makes me laugh when you hear coutinho wants out because of CL football ( which I understand), but if he and a few other turned up at the Euro final, they would all be playing in it.

For me klopp did great in getting us to two finals in his few months, without any players he signed and also turning the players around. Just hope we sign the right players for the team now.
Thanks eds for all the work you do.

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{Ed001's Note - it was not just him though, so you can understand why he thinks it is probably beyond the club's reach. Especially when so many clubs are going to be spending big during the summer.}

26 May 2016 13:26:22
If the club actually shown some ambition to him he would stay, however we don't. Will sign another load of kids and hope for the best. Klopp or not we will be miles off come this time next year.


{Ed001's Note - it is nothing to do with that.}

26 May 2016 13:39:30
Everything has got really difficult in this league now. Everton with cash and pellergrini (who is a good manager)
United with endless cash and mou who like him or not will win them the league.
Top 4 from last year who have cl cash
Then Southampton, West Ham who are showing more ambition than us.
Then Chelsea who will sign quality no matter where they finish.

I actually believe it or not hate being negative and am a positive person but I'm scared so can you tell me it will be ok ed? We just swam like we've got no money : (


26 May 2016 15:12:26
Ja Kurtz - Really? No ambition? And what was getting Klopp all about? What is the Anfield expansion all about? Have you read the posts on here about how LFC has received the 3rd largest amount of prize money (£800 Million) since the inception of the EPL? Since the club is losing money, it's fair to say the money has been spent. You can argue that the money was spent foolishly (190 signings in 19 years), but to say the club has no ambition or does not want to win is ludicrous, preposterous and frankly, really idiotic.


26 May 2016 15:22:12
Ja i've looked through your posts and you havnt once been positive, hold your head up high no matter what, and don't let our boys walk alone.

Why is it all about money to you? Do you think Leicester had all the money in the world or the best manager in the world (i think he' pretty great though) Nobody can tell anyone what will happen in the future, even more so in football. What would you like, all the most expensive players, or a new owner, or a new coach?


26 May 2016 15:29:25
Man the hell up Ja Kurtz, we have every chance to compete, also the only place we should be aiming for is 1st place, last season showed that all bets are off as regards to the traditional top 4 teams who knows what is going to happen next year, but being negative before a ball has even been kicked is not helpful to anyone, Leicester have shown the way forward is to build a team, not fancy names but a real team spirit, I feel klopp can do the same.


26 May 2016 15:48:33
Kurtz is just a troll he's went fishing today and caught you lot. Ignore them then they troll each where.
I know it's a sad thing but hey they do get a kick.


26 May 2016 12:58:50
A massive, massive thank you to ALL the Ed's for keeping us informed on all the players in and out.
Fair play Ed's👏👏👏.

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{Ed001's Note - on behalf of them all, thanks mate. I think this summer is going to test us - it is already busier that we expected and that is before Jose is announced and Everton confirm Pellegrini.}

26 May 2016 13:45:37
Pellegrini to Everton!
Now where did that come from?


26 May 2016 13:57:01
Pellegrini to Everton Ed? That definitely happening?


{Ed001's Note - looks that way. Not 100% yet but that is who they want. Not sure if he wants the same though! De Boer is throwing himself at the role, though he did himself no favours by being very public about it.}

26 May 2016 15:15:59
I second BarryinLouth's sentiments. It definitely seems much busier on here, earlier than in previous years, and must take a lot of hard work to keep up with. Deep felt appreciation and thanks (to ALL the Eds) for the valued information (and tolerance, LOL) .


{Ed001's Note - it is much busier this year than last.}

26 May 2016 15:33:15
what I like about De boer is that any chance of a English job comes up he is first to throw his name in the hat, spurs, Newcastle, Liverpool, and now everton, expect him to declare a interest in the arsenal job when wenger calls it a day!


26 May 2016 15:43:13
Its the klopp effect, we are all intrigued by who he is going to buy and sell.


26 May 2016 12:24:53
afternoon ed001
could you please update us who you think will not figure in klippertys plans for the new season many thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't think I could sensibly answer that question this early on mate. Whoever is still here he will try and include, but it is far too early to know exactly who is going to be left, we are very open to offers for most of the squad.}

26 May 2016 12:24:15
Hi there, a question for ed001. You mentioned that Goetze's price is "too high for a player with such a short term left on his contract".

My question is not related to Goetze specifically, but Liverpool's transfers generally.

Would the club really take contract lenght into account deciding what they are willing to pay?

I had always assumed that contract length affected what the seller would accept but not the maximum a buyer would pay. Surely bringing a player in has a certain value to your squad, and that's what you would set your maximum price by, rather than what you would expect to pay given the contract length?

Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - that is one of the main deciding factors in the price mate. Always has been. There is a base value for the player, but then that is affected by the contract length. If both sides did not take into consideration then prices would not be affected by it at all.}

26 May 2016 15:27:30
What buyer would pay a high fee for a player they could potentially get for no fee ( other than signing on) 6 months Down the track.


26 May 2016 12:18:33
Eds you must have it tough mate. I love my team but most of us Liverpool supporters are a very confused and impatient bunch. One link to a player and we all hit the search button on YouTube. I remember last year people were raving about Moreno, nagging Eds about him and now they are calling for his head. Same goes for Lallana. even Bogdan!

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{Ed001's Note - it is certainly.......interesting.}

26 May 2016 12:53:46
Eds I know it gets a bit repetitive and tedious but do you get to enjoy the excitement a little bit? For me it's the uncertainty that makes it exciting. I was one looking forward to Moreno but unfortunately not every transfer works. It's not so much the transfers I look forward to, nor the names but the players adapting and growing under our manager, rightly or wrongly even more so under Klopp. Do you get to feel some of that eds? Or do us fans and their tediousness spoil it?


{Ed002's Note - It doesn't bother me one way or the other and certainly I don't get excited about football at al.}

26 May 2016 15:45:23
Is football more of a job for you then than an interest Ed002?


{Ed002's Note - Think of it as care in the community.}

26 May 2016 15:54:35
We appreciate the care on this site Ed002.


26 May 2016 16:43:29
classic answer ed002 care in the community! you certainly have plenty of clients on this page.


26 May 2016 16:43:29
classic answer ed002 care in the community! you certainly have plenty of clients on this page.


26 May 2016 11:06:55
With a new left back looking likely to come in, what would everyone think about Moreno being moved up field and playing as a winger.
Supposedly we want a left sided winger, and as much as we all know he can't defend, Moreno certainly provides something in attack.
Decent shot, pace, with some coaching perhaps it could turn out to be beneficial for both parties?
Just thought I'd see what you guys think.

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26 May 2016 12:26:01
Dont think so tbh he's very one footed and doesn't seem to have the skills to get passed people by himself.


{Ed001's Note - that is why he was moved back, he lacked the ability to make it as a winger.}

26 May 2016 12:35:42
Agree with Ginja, too one footed. He can't cut inside and shoot or take on players one on one, would rather develop Ojo there.


26 May 2016 11:04:31
Bayern really are trying to push gotze out! I think horse has been advised to stay an extra year and then leave on a free with a big signing on fee.

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26 May 2016 14:39:54
Horse? Which horse?


26 May 2016 16:22:51
That's Götze's nickname.


26 May 2016 09:35:51
Ed001, asking you more so as you're a Liverpool fan as well. Are you surprised we aren't either linked or actually moving in on any Dortmund players?

Forget Reus and Hummels. But we are looking for a LB, we were looking for a GK, also CB, DM and attackers. Are there any there you're surprised Klopp is going for? The move for an out of form Gotze had me thinking that he clearly recalls what his former players can do for him. I'm assuming most would fit both profile and style we are looking for.

Are they not good enough, Klopp has agreed not to or he and Buvac know players wouldn't leave etc?

Would you have thought the likes of Burki, Bender, Piszczek even Kagawa thrived under Klopp and would be similar to Gotze.

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{Ed001's Note - you seem to have forgotten Klopp said he wouldn't.}

26 May 2016 13:07:47
I figured that statement was the first season he arrived. So by not moving in on anyone in Jan, that was out of respect. But I didn't realise that was forever.

So IF Reus ran his contract down and anyone could talk to him precontract signing, we'd not bother cause of Klopp saying something 3 years ago? Well, at least he is a man of integrity.


{Ed001's Note - he has only had half a season, why would he then raid his old team for everyone? This is the first proper window he has had.}

26 May 2016 11:27:43
I have seen quite a few comments on these great pages about certain players being out of our reach, or our price range etc. I was wondering though how does anyone really know this?

I know that FSG have supported our managers in every transfer window, even allowing BR to spend a small fortune on players before they got rid.

I also understand that we have offered big money in an attempt to bring in so called top players like Sanchez and Texeira. OK they didn't come, but that was because of other reasons.

So I am thinking that maybe - just maybe - we can afford to spend big if there is a real case for it.

I don't think anyone on here is in the know about the current owners true spending power.

Just a thought, and any comments welcomed.

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26 May 2016 11:42:44
It's all bullsquit mate. We're one of the biggest clubs in the world with a world class manager. He'll be backed.


{Ed001's Note - as I keep saying no one knows. The club is owned by a group that has the capability of raising huge funds if it chooses to. It certainly has been willing to spend big in the past.}

26 May 2016 13:13:20
They have said many times they can compete with anyone for anyone, if they feel it is right.

Good signings or not, we had to meet full asking prices of Lovren, Benteke and Moreno I believe. That's £75m for three players in transfer fee alone, add a guesstimate of signing fees, agents, taxes, wages etc.

I would think they'd not entertains buying a Bale for £100m or Neymar for £145m like Utd get quoted about in the press. I don't see them ever doing that, but £30m+ on a single player has been done and for a mid table team with sporadic European football and trophies isn't something to be sniffed at.


26 May 2016 08:24:09
Latest bid for Reece Oxford at 10mil and Ante Coric at 11.5mil . doesn't add up, does it?

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26 May 2016 11:34:13
A-Are these bids even confirmed
B-If so, what doesn't add up? please elaborate.


26 May 2016 11:54:09
It does. 21.5 mill.


{Ed001's Note - ok rain man stop showing off, Ed091 has his shoes and socks off trying to check your maths now.....}

26 May 2016 12:36:53
It's just paper-talk and conjecture from journalist's who know nothing resembling fact. The Reece Oxford things is pure speculation and the Coric one is based on us courting him (which is common knowledge) but seems unlikely we have bid anything just yet. Think one of the ed's said Reece Oxford would never happen as other more attractive options are available to him. With Coric who knows? So many teams are after him - it'll ultimately been down to the player (and those who manage his affairs) where he ends up.


26 May 2016 12:41:02
Lee I don't see what doesn't add up! They are talented kids with cracking reputations for potential (with Coric couldn't be more highly thought of in his home country) and if Klopp sees something he can work with and will better the team or add better balance I really don't see what the problem is. You keep saying your not concerned about big names then you keep producing posts like this which seem to say otherwise. A midfield of Coric, Grujic and Can supporting Firmino as CAM with Origi up front, imagine that combination after it has flourished and matured under Klopps guidance for a 2-3 seasons. Try not to be too short sighted, look ahead.


26 May 2016 12:44:39
Dont worry Ed091, an abacus is on its way!


{Ed091's Note - thats a bit too new age for me H

25 May 2016 22:20:04
Would you take Mascherano back? He is available and would come Cheap.

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26 May 2016 11:40:36
Poor positionally and forced his way out of the club distastefully so no thanks.

Whats the obsession with former players? If they were that good we would have won a lot more.


26 May 2016 12:41:22
Cos he was quality.


26 May 2016 12:56:58
Is he not close to moving to Juventus?


25 May 2016 17:28:39
Here's my opinion on the upcoming window at the moment, food for thought for the forum.

I can definitely see Klopp buying another centre back due to Skrtel heading off to turkey and Sakho's ban coming up, i doubt he'll plug the gap by giving Kolo an extension, as much as i love him, he's on big wages and i think klopp would rather look long term, someone young and german most likely, like Sule or Tah.

Even though some fans wan't him gone, Mignolet will almost certainly stay, especially with Danny ward possibly out on loan. I can see Mignolet leaving at the end of next season if Klopp moves him into the 2nd choice role as expected, and Ward taking over from there on depending on how well he fares.

Not sure if Borussia will sell Dahoud having sold Xhaka to Arsenal and Nordtveit to West Ham, not without a hefty fee at least. Goetze is obviously not happening and Udinese seem reluctant to part with Zielinski. Coric also seems a possibility, and i like the lad even if he seems a little lightweight.

I reckon Benteke will definitely go while the club can get a good fee, they won't want him being benched for another season and his value dropping any further, and Klopp seems happy with Origi, Firmino, Sturridge and he now has Ings back.

Not sure about left back, it seems very likely chilwell will be done once a fee is agreed, but since there are other priorities i doubt moreno will go and hector or another left back will arrive

Lastly i'm not sure which of the midfield will be culled, Canos seems off and now Ibe is apparently available. room obviously needs to be made for new additions. Not forgetting Grujic is now here too. Allen i reckon will go even though some fans now want the new Welsh Xavi/ Pirlo to stay. Wouldn't be surprised to see lucas go either.

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26 May 2016 12:05:26
Why is Goetze " not happening "?

When a player with one year on his contract, who has only started 11 games last season for his club, says he is happy where he is, then has his father say he has no knowledge of any transfer, that indicates to me he is strongly engineering a move.

What do Bayern do, lose him for nothing in 12 months time.

Personally speaking, I feel we have more pressing priorites than another attacking midfielder, I am just saying that it pays sometimes not to take everything at face value, we are all aware that there are no ethics in football tranfers.

Everything I have seen from the Gotze camp this week tells me he is on his way!


26 May 2016 12:48:07
Yup I would agree with pretty much everything in this post looking pretty likely. Personally I think we need a new CB (depending on departures) another left back on top of chilwell (depending on Moreno leaving) another central midfielder (not another box to box midfielder we have plenty of them and preferably a defensive minded one as Lucas is just too injury prone and as a result inconsistent even though I love the guy) a forward/ winger (someone that isn't an attacking midfielder/ number 10 who runs in behind using pace and trickery. Hopefully markovic stays and gets a chance with ojo staying to learn from the first team or a loan to a pl club, and ibe either sold or loaned to a pl club) and depending on outgoings and injuries, at a stretch and the least of all our priorities, a striker.

Possibly 9 signings all together including the ones we have. That is a major transformation. Departures of deadwood will play a huge role in how the club gets along. Chemistry, fitness and balance is required in this team and having a bloated squad full of unhappy or average players will ruin next season again. Klopp has to be ruthless and we need to finally get rid of unwanted players rather than continuesly loan them.


26 May 2016 10:01:32
Bayern Munich CEO Karl-Heinz Rummenigge last night gave an interview in which he urged Mario Gotze to reconsider his decision
of staying at Bayern Minich.

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26 May 2016 11:19:49
Popular guy then. Hope he isn't dressing room trouble.


26 May 2016 11:17:46
Time to reduce our bid. Say 10mil?


26 May 2016 13:29:28
I suspect Rummenigge's main concern is the 20 million or so that will vanish into thin air if Goetze doesn't leave this summer.


26 May 2016 09:16:41
One for Kova if I may. Read a post where you mentioned Gerrard being poor if played out of position. I never thought Gerrard got it going for England as he was played out of position on many occasion to accomadate other players.

When he was moved around on the pitch for us I thought he did okay? I remember one season he played right wing and scored over 20 goals. He played behind Torres for a while and seemed to make it easy for him to score as many goals as he did.

I know he played right back in Instanbul and stopped x amount of crosses coming in. It was a one off in a European final. What else would you expect from a captain.

All but the the slip against Chelsea I'm of the thinking he done okay as a holding centre-mid.

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26 May 2016 09:36:44
Kova. Just a friendly conversation bud.


26 May 2016 09:47:56
Gazza

Nice to hear from you mate. Gerrard got a truck
Load of abuse when he played the holding mid ( Quarter back Role ) for the club. We let in a massive 50+ goals in that season. But he contributed a hell lot going forward and scoring goals. ( Range of passing, Distribution, vision and Excellend Set piece deliveries, He was also a dead ball specialist ) He is still the best player I have ever seen at the club without any question mark. He is a brilliant player played up front where he has the luxury to charge forward and had Alonso / Mascherno covering up the midfield.

Now relate it to Can / Henderson. They are good when you play them slightly up and take off their defensive duties. What's the first thing comes to your mind when you hear Henderson? His energy and high press charging forward.
Henderson was sensational played slightly up during 2012 and I would always play him there regardless of what people think else.

Klopp see different to me and quite a lot. He see Can as the sitting midfielder and Henderson as the traditional CM who charges when Can hold while sit back when Can changes.

Klopp is competing his Bender / Gundgaon pair to Can / Henderson but he has to keep in mind Bender is fantastic holding midfielder whole Hendo could be as good as Gundagaon on his day.

You are taking the best part from both the players and shorning them to your own system. I am not a big fan of it mate.

My comparison was to relate Teo sets of players when you play them on their best position and not on their best position.


26 May 2016 11:27:54
its a waste of his abilities mate. the mans dangerous up front.


26 May 2016 13:28:47
Cheers for the insight Kova. Very interesting reading mate.


27 May 2016 11:32:21
Gerrard was abused much on this site when he
Played the deeper role. He was bloody good on the attacking front but his defensive vulnerability was highlighted. It doesn't matter If Gerrard plays on the right or behind Torres, The point is he was taken off from his positional discipline and defensive duties.
Remember he was pushed ahead in 2005 final when Hamann came on.

Can is another Gerard who simply cannot position hImself He is good going forward but equally terrible when it comes to be disciplined.

You got to play the player strength and not shorn to your system. What's Can's strength or Henderson's strength?

Hence my Comprison Gerrard - Alonso.


26 May 2016 08:58:38
Hi Eds,

Would anyone have any update with regards Joe Gomez? Looking forward to get the young lad back.

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{Ed001's Note - Square Tomato is the man for that.}

26 May 2016 08:42:01
Love all these people claiming that they know Coric and he will be huge. You all spend a lot of time watching Dinamo Zagreb do you? Maybe this guy is mustard, I don't know, but can we please stop pretending that we've all been following his career for years and are avid followers of the Croatian league? Almost none of you will have heard his name before a week ago, never mind watched him play more than a few youtube clips. Calm down over guys like these - we have no idea how ready they are, gow good they might be and how interested we really are in them.

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{Ed001's Note - bit like Emre Mor, now he is being linked with Bayern, his name is suddenly everywhere.}

26 May 2016 09:22:52
Hjikle how boring. Why should people not be allowed to be excited? Why do people have to be experts on his career to have an opinion? Pointless negative post just to insult fellow fans. This is a site for people to discus Liverpool and the transfer rumours which is what you are critisising people for? By the way I think he is v v talented indeed potential mootard of the highest quality and I would love us to sign him. The figures suggested would make it a v worthwhile risk imo. What's your opinion on the signing? Or are you just for insulting others opinions rather than offering your own?


26 May 2016 10:12:02
This is a banter site, so I think the opening poster needs to except that fans will make comments on potential targets rumours, and stop being so rude. We all know that these players names we are being linked to are new to most of us, but that's what the internets for. You can do your own research and then make an opinion.
Wayne Rooney admitted he had to google Martials name, when Utd bought him. I can say to my 11yr old we are linked to a player I have never heard of and he will say he's rubbish on Fifa Dad. Any way chill guys.


26 May 2016 08:50:38
Coric is highly rated by Ed02 and I trust him more than anyone. I have seen him in bits and parts, I have also gathered quite few opinions from people especially from Bayern Munich. This guys is brilliant at his age.


26 May 2016 11:24:56
Hjikle, I'm with you. We always get massively over excited over a new signing then we're really disappointed when they're not the new Messi. It's part of the cycle that leads to fans turning on players.

By all means be interested in our new signings but lay off the hyperbole to we've actually seen him in a red shirt.


26 May 2016 10:48:33
My 15yo son is like that too, lol!


26 May 2016 10:57:41
Know Mor, Mrniceguy?


26 May 2016 12:19:18
I think this is a by-product of FM16 and the previous incarnations. They do seem to have a knack of picking out a good % of future stars. They employ more scouts for the game then any club in the world.

Not saying its right or makes any sense - but I do find people using their FM save game as vindication for how good they think a player is.


26 May 2016 12:43:24
Yes! Quiet fans! How dare you discuss a player and, god forbid, get excited about the prospect of signing one unless you have extensively scouted them by yourself - this is a banter site not some sort of free for all where people can express their opinions or thoughts on football related matters. Jeez.


26 May 2016 13:05:17
Kova - opinions from Bayern Munich? What does that have to do with Coric, he's a Serbian playing in Croatia, he has nothing to do with Bayern Munich. Unless you're talking about Mor in which case no comment, no idea who he even is.

If you guys think that it's rude to point out just how many 'opinions' are founded on absolutely no information - not very little, not a couple of games etc but literally nothing as they've never heard of the player in question, let alone seen him play - then that's your business; feel as insulted as you like. It's still a ridiculous way to live - have an opinion about people who you've seen play, who you actually know the first thing about etc. But half the time people don't even know what position they play - we have someone the other day telling us how Zielinski would be a great signing and would really add width to the right wing! Same with Guijic and Matip - someone recently was saying about Matip that he wasnt good enough to start for us because he doesn't even start for Schalke (started 34 games this season) and that Gruijic physically was a similar mould to Allen and would stuggle with the PL's physical element (he's almost 2m tall) . It's fine for everyone to form an opinion but it's actually getting in the way of meaningful discussion between people who know anything about the players and people making up opinions is starting to make this page a lot less useful for news and views and really eroding the enjoyment. Be less concerned with appearing knowledgeable, be more concerned with gaining knowledge

And as for my opinion Redwillis? I don't have one. Because I don't watch the Croatian league and have no idea who the guy is. Just like 99% of the people who do have an opinion.


26 May 2016 08:09:06
Ed001 you're analysis of players is always great. I was wondering what you think of Raphael Gurriero?

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - I have not seen him a lot, but what I saw reminded me of Moreno. Charging forward and neglecting his defensive duties. Though he did look to have better delivery in the forward areas.}

26 May 2016 09:06:16
Yeah he just seems a better version of Moreno offensively. All his strengths are in his attacking game, he might be a good option for winger though, but as a defending left back, I'm not so sure.


26 May 2016 09:24:08
Any idea what the bid amount is?


26 May 2016 06:25:57
Hi Reds and Eds

First time poster but long time reader (Great site)

I really hope we sign Dahoud this summer, exacy the kind of player we need in the middle of the park, good ball winning skills, grear range of passing, can turn defence into attack with quick forward passing, wonderful touch and control, good vision and a mean shot. at 20 yrs old he is only going to get better.

I hope we get rid of Allen, Lallana, Benteke, Moreno, Milner (not good enough for cm), Skrrel.

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26 May 2016 08:22:25
I'm not sure that Dahoud is the ball winning midfielder you think he is.


26 May 2016 09:08:57
I agree with fop I think he's a few years away from really being a great midfielder, at this stage he really reminds me of can. Not a bad thing, just that we are in need of a different type of midfielder imo.


26 May 2016 17:25:55
Appreciate the response guys

Who in your opinion do you think we could do with in Midfield. besides Kante haha.


26 May 2016 05:13:01
Eds - can ya please explain briefly how it works that transfer are completed at this stage of the season? I thought the window opened inJuly?

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{Ed001's Note - transfers can be done at any time, but the player's registration can only be transferred during the transfer window.}

26 May 2016 07:01:36
Ah k, thanks for reply :)


26 May 2016 09:14:13
Can they train with us before July?


{Ed001's Note - depends on the agreement between the two clubs.}

26 May 2016 02:39:58
The Roy Hodgson affect. Starting Sturridge injury problems yet again. Just someone get him to retire from football altogether please. The mans a crook.

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26 May 2016 07:20:06
He has coaches who do the training and physios like all other managers. I doubt it's his fault directly, but England's training methods.

Also seems Dan is made of glass.

He is our best but with this injury, if it were longer then a couple of weeks, I'd consider offers as what's the point if he is almost guarenteed to miss half a season.


26 May 2016 08:02:19
I agree there are other coaches, but I just don't trust Roy after Sturridge got injured last season as Roy wanted to "test his metal"


26 May 2016 08:10:16
I'm Sorry but Danny has been clear of Injury for 4 months now well until yesterday its a tad weird he goes of for England duty then gets injured Surely you would think England's coaching set up would of contacted Liverpool about Daniels training regime.


26 May 2016 08:34:20
Roy has famously stated that he follows his own training regime, not those that clubs set for players. As for listening to offers for Sturridge - what's the point? If we aren't willing to help with his injury issues, who will pay us the money needed to replace him for the pleasure of doing so?


26 May 2016 08:58:01
We have always suffered at England's hands, going back to Redknapp. The club should take action for damages if they insist on players varying what the club knows is good for them. It's just ludicrous the amount of injuries we have on international duty.


26 May 2016 10:16:26
I believe I read that for the first time England have full access to a player's medical records and performance data collated from their clubs, so that they can individualise a player's training and fitness programme while on duty with them, should stop all these problems.


26 May 2016 08:18:12
Sturridge would not want to sit on bench behind Kane, Vardy. No way.


26 May 2016 13:08:11
thebritvickid - they do (or at least no sensible club would withold this info when requested) . They choose not to use it (or choose to use it in some cases)


26 May 2016 02:23:40
On another note. earlier on the feed i saw Alonso mentioned for some reason. To this day i still don't know what happened with him leaving lpool. why did benitez want barry? Did he wish to leave? Was he forced? Did they have a bustup? I never understand what went on . Eds or Reds?

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{Ed001's Note - Rafa tried to sell him to fund a move for Barry. He was unsettled after that, so Madrid came calling and he jumped at the chance to join them.}

26 May 2016 05:05:42
I heard that he and Rafa had a bust-up when his wife was pregnant. Apparently Alonso wanted to be by her side when she was having a baby and this would have meant him missing a game (a Champions League game if I recall but unsure which one) . Rafa was unhappy with that and didn't want him to miss it and thus the seeds of negativity were sown.

Now this is all conjecture as I have no way to prove it it was simply what someone who worked within the club (who no longer does) told me. I'll be honest the Ed's response sounds far more plausible but hey ho.


{Ed001's Note - that was a bone of contention you are correct.}

26 May 2016 08:19:54
Then i will say its Alonso's fault. A game is at most 90min. He can be with his wife the whole day apart from that 90min.


26 May 2016 11:58:51
Think it was an away day in Europe though (Inter Milan perhaps? ) and so was not as simple as you make out. A manager has got to be a good at delegating with players - on all accounts it was Rafa who failed: firstly by not handling the birth of Alonso's first child very well and secondly by making it clear he would replace him with Barry if possible. Sorry but this was a key error in Rafa's reign (in my opinion - the other falling out with Aysteran) and things kind of settled into a steady decline following it. As for Alonso's decision? I don't think you can criticise it at all, to each their own but if he wanted to be present for the birth of his first child I believe the manager should of granted the request. I think it probably grated on Alonso harder given he was a model professional and absolutely dedicated in trained - this wasn't a Jermaine Pennant or a Balotelli we are talking about here - Rafa messed up big time in my opinion.


{Ed001's Note - I totally agree with you, Pako tried his best to persuade Rafa to change his mind on that one. There are certain things that should be left up to the player to decide. Births and deaths are certainly the main two in my mind. The club should be a part of their family, it should support them in decisions like this, just as you would a brother or son who wanted to do whatever it took to be at the birth of their child.}

25 May 2016 22:23:10
What is the eds opinion of brahimi as a player? We have been linked with a blockbuster move for him. I watched him in champions league and looked fast and tricky but not sure how much quality he would have in the prem? What do you think of him? Could be our mahrez but at 100x the cost 😂.

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{Ed001's Note - I think he would cost far too much for what he brings. Fast and tricky but he struggled in the games I saw him play in Europe.}

26 May 2016 08:21:34
Certainly not worth £45m, maybe not even half that, can't see that one happening tbh. Would rathet we spent the money and bought coric, he will be a superstar.


26 May 2016 08:23:36
If we're going to lash out that kind of money I'd rather we went for Reus.


26 May 2016 08:25:33
As he has been mentioned on here I've been watching a view highlights video's of Coric - he does look impressive for his age: great technical ability and first touch. Always has his head up and look for a pass but can easily dribble past an opponent if necessary. As another poster said he is in the Modric mould (and for me a little like the Kaka when he was good) - be a great coup but of course half of europe watching and keen. We'll see where he ends up - it would be very encouraging is we somehow managed to pull off the transfer.


26 May 2016 10:04:04
Barnez, "what gives you the right to call coric a future superstar? Do you watch the Croatian league? " That's what hjikle is screaming as he's reading your post! How dare you get excited!


26 May 2016 09:32:02
Problem is tho you say go for reus would he come etc.


25 May 2016 22:22:22
ED 1 or 2 (or both), if you'd be so kind, what obtainable player would get you the most excited if we brought in during this coming window? Would love to hear your thoughts. Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't see an 'obtainable' player that would really get me all that excited this summer. Maybe Coric, if anyone.}

26 May 2016 11:22:15
Eds - what do you think of Alen Halilovic?


{Ed001's Note - I try not to think about him, puts me off my stroke.... Seriously not seen a lot of him, but I have not heard good things about him recently.}

25 May 2016 21:26:15
Hello all,

First time poster but followed the site for a few years now. Great job you're doing lads.

Question for Ed001 if it's one that you could answer. You said that Dahoud would be too expensive, is klopp looking to buy any players that will command a hefty transfer fee (but actually worth it) . Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - not really this summer, only because we need to buy a few. Though a few sales for decent fees might make it necessary to replace someone such as Couts.}

26 May 2016 02:16:22
Do you think Chilwell is ready to go straight into our first team? I admit I've not really seen him play, but he's never made a premier league appearance for Leicester, and only made 8 championship appearances for Huddersfield. I know he is well thought of, and has a lot of potential, but its a big step up.

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26 May 2016 02:48:33
We have seen Stewart and others make a step up this year. let's give them a chance and support them before we judge them.


26 May 2016 08:43:07
Also he probably would have made appearances for Leicester if they weren't moving heaven and earth to keep that same team together as much as physically possible this season.


26 May 2016 10:58:08
Fuchs had such a great season.


25 May 2016 20:59:32
We need Coutihno he's a good player, But I just don't like his attitude, it's like he's holding out for a big move away from the club. I'd rather a play leave now then for him to become a better player at our expense n leave when his all silky for the barca's n madrid. I just think Coutihno will leave as soon as a big team comes calling just like Moreno.

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26 May 2016 02:16:27
Anybody body got the fax number for a big team?

For sale

Spanish left back with exceptional pace and eager to help out the attack at every available opportunity. Two previous owners and is bilingual but his no footballing tactical knowledge.

£10 000,000 ONO

Contact Jurgen Klopp @ Liverpool FC

No time wasters.


26 May 2016 03:41:32
What exactly don't you like about Coutinho's attitude? I think it is a personal dig at without a doubt our best player for the sake of it. If a bigger club comes calling, not just Coutinho, pretty much everyone else in our squad will want to move.

Frankly, I find the antipathy towards Coutinho from our own fans rather distasteful and without any foundation.

Also tell me, who can we get, that will come to Liverpool, who will not leave if a bigger club come calling, that will be of the same ability as Coutinho, and can translate that ability into football on a weekly basis, but still with potential to improve. Give me one name, and I can start to see your side of the argument. Until then, I find all this hatred towards him utter nonsensical and embarrassing.


26 May 2016 05:16:57
People seem to forget the brilliant goals against United and Dortmund which got us into the finals.

Why do you care if he plays for Barcelona after 2 seasons, if he can help us push for top 4 next season.

I don't know if Iam arguing with a minority or everybody now doesn't like Coutinho.

Personally, I hope he stays!

We need to add quality players not sell them and buy 'potential'.

Otherwise we will be stuck in a vicious circle, where we keep developing potential players and then selling those which hit the top level. We will end up becoming a farming ground for other teams.


26 May 2016 05:07:53
Agree with you AG. Its sadly a reflection on the fact that we are no longer one of the biggest clubs that fans get riled so easily when players want to join CL clubs. Why would players put club loyalty before better wages, European footy and playing with the likes of Messi and Suarez? If we want to keep attracting and retaining the better players, we need ambition and success on the field. I doubt Coutinho will be the first repercussion from losing against Sevilla and, in his case, I don't blame him for moving if one of the 'bigger' euro clubs come calling.


26 May 2016 07:04:46
Coutinho fresh from winning 4 awards with us isn't going just because we missed Europe, maybe just maybe some players want to be here because they love the place, because they want to fight for that chance of trophys, and because they simply will not give up now after the hard work put in. I want to see coutinho next year, and I hope he continues to grow the Liverpool way.


26 May 2016 08:29:03
I don't think there has been anything really bad said about Coutinho (least not that I have seen) - some fans have merely pointed out that he has been very inconsistent and that, for every good game (like United away, Dortmund at home, etc) there have been maybe 4 or 5 games of anonymity. From what I have seen a number fans are OK with Coutinho going for the right place. I'm kind of 50/ 50 personally and would only want him to go for an extortionate fee similar to (if not greater than) Sterling's. Whether that happens or not who knows but I'm not sure fans have been as bad as you've made out. Perhaps I've simply missed (or ignored) those comments?


26 May 2016 08:45:44
What in gods name does 'become better at our expense' mean? If he becomes better whilst playing for us it a) helps us on the field and b) means he commands a bigger transfer fee if sold. Where do we lose out by another season of coutinho or any other player improving?


26 May 2016 08:58:53
I'm with the majority. Really hope we keep Coutinho and offer him a better deal to keep him. I'm hoping Firmino/ Origi will take another step next season and perhaps another new attacker too. Coutinho will flourish in what will hopefully be a far better team next season. We should be looking to sell players we don't want/ need only. For me, that's how you improve. Coutinho is not in that category. Selling "the little magician" would be a big mistake IMO.


26 May 2016 10:24:35
What annoys me lads is if he had of stepped up against Sevilla with a MOTD performance then we could be in the champions league. Instead he had a shocker and now moans there's not champions league.

Did he do enough over the whole season. No.

Same as lukaku whines that he was champions league, fair enough they would have struggled to make it but he had some. shocking games just walking around. If these lads want it then go and get it.

Just annoys me that's all.


26 May 2016 10:59:56
Its never good to lose one of the key players. But i feel like now would be an ok time for couts to go.


26 May 2016 00:18:07
Eds

Does sturridge's calf injury make it any more likely we look to bring in a striker? I know he should be over the injury by the start of the season. But he just can't seem to stay healthy for long stretches.

Cheers.

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