Liverpool Banter Archive June 26 2013

26 Jun 2013 22:46:47
Just read Swansea are after Jonjo Shelvey for £5m, we payed double that for Joe Allen, ain't Shelvey the better player? So why we selling cheaply again? We pulled the short straw again, what a joke!

OMG only jokes like you think shelvey is better than allen

You comments = you don't deserve to be a Liverpool supporter.

well if it works for players it does for fans.

Allen is way better than Shelvey.

27 Jun 2013 07:40:11
Shelvey is poor. so as allen has been awful alst season.despite getting the nod ofr almost 30 games.
he is nothing sort for a 18 mill signing.

27 Jun 2013 07:44:44
I agree your post is a joke.
on what planet is Shelvy better than allen? Certainly not Earth. Allen is twice the player Jonjojojo is with a blindfolder on.

Shelvey? Seriously? Your messin!

Personally speaking - don't know if Shelvey is better than Allen, only time will tell . but I don't think so .
My thoughts on Shelvey haven't changed - a decent young player and decent passer but i'm afraid he lacks pace at the highest level .

Agree with first post, at this moment would put jonjo above Allen, yes joes pass rate is higher, but I would hope so seeing as most of it was backwards. Tell Swansea to double it or foff.
MikeG

Allen is a fantastic player. He had a dip in form, which coincided with Lucas being unavailable. There was no real position for him last season. For that, he has been unfairly abused.
Shelvey may well become a good player. He has to keep his head together, though. He's either angry without the ball, or a completely indecisive mess with it.

Wow the guy who said your comments mean you don't deserve to be a lfc supporter. Your the joke son for such a derogatory comment.

27 Jun 2013 10:40:26
Naah, some people really don't deserve to be Liverpool supporters. I agree with him 200%

Shelvey is much better than the welch Xavi, at least shelvey gets stuck in and can shoot all Allen does is the dreary 5 yard backwards or sidewards pass, yawn.

Up that to £6m thanks very much. And no way is Shelvey better than Allen.

27 Jun 2013 14:51:38
Yawn from clueless supporters like you, Allen has less "backward" passes than Gerrard & Lucas.
That Allen only passes backwards or sideways is a stupid myth.

26 Jun 2013 22:02:37
Hi eds, will we buying any other centre backs apart from Toure and Ilori? as I feel neither Toure or Ilori are good enough to replace Carra {Ed030's Note - If Skrtel leaves then yes if not I am unsure. }

Who are the centre backs you think will come in if Martin Skrtel does leave? {Ed030's Note - I don't know mate,But there will be 1 or 2 should Skrtel leave. }

26 Jun 2013 21:26:49
How does Coutinho not get in that Brazil team? he's got to be worthy of a spot on the bench at the very least.

Ciario80 {Ed030's Note - I thought that mate,Much better than Hulk and a fair few other Brazilian players. }

We'd be gutted if he was there and got injured though, so would rather he prepared for his first full season with us.

Big season for all and want him fresh and prepped.

Jonesred

Big season and no doubt we'll see him in the world cup! Uglygeordiegenius

Give him time. He'll be there if he has a good season.

BJH YNWA

Coutinho plays Neymar's position on the field. I don't see how he can dislodge Neymar in the Brazil team between now and the World Cup next year.

Keep him he's a hidden gem. he is a magician.

Ynwa

How is he better than hulk?

I think Coutinho went off the radar in his twilight at Inter, so i'm sure if he continues his form from last season to this he will be on the bench at least in Brazil next year. How could he be ignored? He has unbelieveable vision, timing and composure for such a young player.

I recall him noting in an interview how he was so impressed with Suarez's workrate off the ball. He has shown he is more than capable of tracking back and showing tactical awareness which is another bonus to his game and a positive contribution to the team.

The A man.

The A man.

I see someone thinks Hulks a good player? :-))))

26 Jun 2013 21:17:42
Hello ed's,
Hope your all well this evening.

Haven't got any more info from my source to report but have a question if you don't mind.

I seem to recall Brendan Rodgers saying towards the end of the season numerous things relating to transfers. One being he wanted to do business early which is obviously proving to be the case, the other being he wanted to bring in some experience to support the young lads we have and are signing. Obviously Toure is in this category but I just wondered if any of you exepected any more "older" or experienced players coming in and if so any possibilities that you may have heard?

It appears most the strong rumours at the moment (Micky, Llori etc) aren't in this bracket and I can't recall many experienced players mentioned (other than xabi which I guess is probably more hopeful than realistic!)

Thanks {Ed052's Note - I dont expect any more older players}

Del Piero!

My gut tells me we will look for a senior player on loan later in the window - perhaps somebody like a gameiro.

However, my gut has been wrong before.

26 Jun 2013 21:13:38
Hi edds I'm just curious about the fact that none of our new signings have been assigned numbers yet. Do you think this is due to players possibly leaving and therefore we have waited for numbers to be made available? Thanks {Ed052's Note - the window hasn't opened, so we haven't even signed them yet, thats why}

26 Jun 2013 19:41:59
Hi Eds, with Toure joining Agger and speculation around Llori, Papa or Richards joining (and Skrtl still here) I wonder what you think the new season holds for Kelly and Wisdom? Maybe Wisdom will go on loan but Kelly would be fourth choice CB and second choice RB, maybe not even that if these Micah Richard rumours prove true. Thanks for your work on this great site. {Ed052's Note - Kelly will offer competition as will Wisdom, although he may get a loan. We wont be signing Richards}

26 Jun 2013 20:08:44
I know you out there are not going to believe this but I saw Ricky Lambert pulling away from the TG. He has always been one of us and he maybe surplus at the saints. Could be worth a punt just to change things round. what's your view?

You're right mate, I don;t believe it.

MUSHROOM

I think your his arlfella lookn 2 get a pay day wich will not happen

26 Jun 2013 19:52:46
is Mignolet competition for Reina?

Or is Reina certain to depart? {Ed030's Note - BR says he is competition so that is good enough for me. }

Smokescreen ed.

26 Jun 2013 19:50:40
Personally, I think we should just cut our losses with Henderson to free up space and funds for a better quality central player. Now, I know a lot of people have a liking for Henderson and his determination/work ethic etc. but I just feel that our team is no better or worse with or without him in it.
For me he doesn't really have one particular attribute that makes him a good player, he's just all round average - not the best passer as he has few assists, and rarely plays any eye catching, defence splitting balls; not a gifted dribbler; not a goal scoring midfielder; doesn't have any pace; not a match winner; no where near being a full time international (at 23 which isn't exactly young); what does he actually do apart from 'give it his all', 'work hard for the team' (which most our players should be/are doing) or play very simple passes.
Overall I just feel that if we are going to sell to raise money he should be considered, along with Downing, as he's been given more than enough time to develop into this world class player many claim he will be. In my opinion, players that are going to be class normally show signs of it by his age, and i'm afraid he has shown very little indeed

I am prepared for the hate I am about to receive for this post, as I know a lot of you love him for certain 'qualities' some of you believe he has, but I also know there will be many who agree as they have yet to see any real talent from him.

Carl {Ed030's Note - I personally love Henderson,He is a good footballer and shows desire to play for Liverpool and that is good enough or me,What do other people think? }

Henderson should definitely be kept. He has had his best season of his career so it looks like he is settling into the club.

His head never goes down. When he wasn't always first choice, and he might not be next season, he always just carried on fighting for a place in the team.

Unlike the likes of Shelvey who just moaned about being blamed for losses (he said that around January/February), the likes of Henderson and Downing just got their heads down and worked to prove they deserved a place in the starting XI. We need to keep players who are willing to fight to stay in the team.

I'm very much with the ed on this one. Henderson is one of England's best up and coming midfielders so why on earth would you consider getting rid. Just don't understand some people!

Agree with ed! Didn't take to him first season but he has turned things around and I believe he will be a quality player for many years for Liverpool! We need his passion and desire.

13reds

He speaks very well is humble and just wants to do his best stays back in training to work on finishing in read seriously good attitude good footballer but lacks quality although his efforts makes up for it interesting to see if he improves at the rate he did last season

Yeah I agree Ed, Henderson is quality and we should keep him!

Ack17

Hendo is a good young Lad not a Gerrard replacement but will prove to be a useful LFC player an unsung hero

I agree Ed030. The latter part of the season Henderson showed the reason why we paid so much for him. Hope he keeps getting better.

MUSHROOM

Henderson has got to be one of my favourite players, he shows full effort and desire and is always improving. Would hate to see him go.

I agree with ed30 . I think he is a great player . He is box to box and we need that engine in the middle .
YNWA
Jamesy

Could not agree more why all the rumours about him leaving?

I completely agree with the Ed, a strong squad is what we need to push on & Henderson for me will be a key part of it with his versatility. Love the site (1st time poster :-) ).

Think he is going to score more than Gerrard next year, he runs a lot more, and covers more space. So for me Gerrard is the playmaker and Henderson is perfect player to play alongside him together with Lucas/Allen. No need for more players in midfield

I think hendos a good player massive improvement last season and if he keeps on improving could become superb for us.
MikeyD

I think we have to keep going with him.

Henderson is a good player with huge potential. I see him as a mainstay of our midfield for the next decade. He is keen, combative, energetic and has an eye for goal. Too many fans of all clubs want the finished article straight away and if Hendo was a home grown local lad he would get a lot more leeway. I see his natural position as a centre midfielder and is probably the long term successor to Gerrard.
In his final interview for LFC TV, Carra talked about how he hardly tackled in the last couple of years, that his game had advanced to reading the game, anticipating the moves, being where he needed to be. Henderson will be a great for us in my opinion but it will take time and I would much rather he be given the opportunity to cement his place in the midfield three over the next two years.
Rafa told Gerrard that he was too busy, that he was trying to do too much and that he had to be more intelligent in his play. Hendo will learn from the best and has all the characteristics to be a future Liverpool and England captain. Just give him time, then he can be teaching the likes of Coady, Dunn and Rossiter, who all have the potential to be Liverpool greats.

26 Jun 2013 20:56:48
You should stop playing footballmanager or fifa or whatever other bulls*** game your playing.
Rubbish post, you clearly 100% haven't watched him this season.

I'm agreement with the Ed on this one, some of the passion & commitment he has shown in games certainly in the 2nd half of last season was second to none, Villa & Newcastle spring to mind.
Remember in many games he has not been deployed in his accustomed position he was brought up playing.
Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinions, I have reservations over Lucas as I feel we need someone stronger in the defensive midfielder position but he his slowly winning me over.
However if we want a strong/competitive squad then we need the likes of Henderson to be part of it.

I ilke Henderson. he has proved he is willing to work hard. I think he will be a big player for us this season. sc

I agree with Ed030, most of the time as it turns out. For me the jury is still out as to how good a player he will turn out to be for us but he may as well be scouse for the effort, commitment and determination he has on the pitch for us. He has to stay for me.

Ed, I never get to go to the games live and have to settle for watching on tv. Have you seen him live?

This comment may explain why I'll never be a manager but with his engine I'd like to see him as a DM. Box to box is good for someone with his energy but he isn't the most prolific so he may excel as a DM.

Bringing the abuse :-) {Ed030's Note - I am privileged enough to be to Live 30-40 mins from Anfield so yes I am able to attend games on a regular basis including U-21,U-19 and yes I have seen a lot of Henderson and he has impressed me quite a bit this season I will maybe write a 2012/2013 player season review,Would anyone read that? }

I tend to side with the former here. doesn't do anything great, but there is something to say for attitude and with ethic. I think for him to be an asset in a UCL team he needs to be moved back as a CDM. I see him as a Lucas, maybe less instinctive but nothing his work ethic can't make up for. Hell we can't take every KD signing on the chin and sell at 50% discount. Maybe more value in keeping him, unless there is a certain suitor and evident replacement that could upgrade other areas of the team.

Not everyone in the team needs to make defence splitting balls as we have the likes of Gerrard and Coutinho to do that, players like Hendo allow those players to be able to do just that. i'm not his biggest fan but he is far better than average. Also just because a 20-30m player does it in another league doesn't mean they won't fail here. Remember Veron?. One of the best players in the world when Utd bought him only for him to be a donkey in the faster EPL.

You don't receive hate for the post - just for your lack of appreciation for a very very talented young footballer who wants to play for us. Baffles me that midfielders like Carrick get a game for England ahead of him. {Ed030's Note - It doesn't me mate,Henderson still needs time to mature,Find his right position and settle into the starting 11 until then he will not get picked for England imo. }

He was the engine which allowed our best attacks happen his tenacious closing down and desire to win the ball back was to me a joy to watch I love that in a player

mayhem 1981

Hendo was told he could find another club. he said no to that and showed fight and desire to get back into the team and wear the red shirt! Are these not the qualities that we all moan&whinge about wanting to see in Liverpool players?
Do we want another aquaman? NO!
Forget the price tag look at the progression and he will only get better!
In Buck we trust!

Ed, good idea. I'd def read season profiles on the players. {Ed030's Note - Ok mate,I am doing it now. }

Count me in for the Hendo fan club. He has improved hugely and IMO he is only going to keep getting better and better.

And as Ed says, the fact that he clearly wants to play for us and wants to impress us is even more important than his current technicality ability in any case.

Coyle's Law states.

Henderson was one of the few players who kept progressing all season long. He just got better and better and better. It'd be very shortsighted to move him on now. I see his case being similar to Lucas, where in a couple seasons from now, he could potentially be one of the pillars of the team. Definitely should keep him.

Should defo be given another season to cement his place in the team, either as starter or coming off bench. Good technique, strong, and great work-rate.

The player review is a good idea, if you could incorporate that into the actual site that would be a good idea. Something like a player rating system, which is updated as the season goes by. Perhaps incorporating it into the player profiles site might work. It could also have a team rating system too. Haha I'm just brainstorming here. Thanks anyways.

I think when hendo has played in the middle he has showed he is a player who likes to get on the ball and pass it. when on the right he drifts in and out of games, but I also remember a young stevie having that prob for a while. hendo will be a a good talent and I admire a player that tries to do the right things even if the fans at times got on his back it shows he believes in his ability.

26 Jun 2013 19:40:58
If Liverpool sign MK will they get full owner ship? {Ed002's Note - Yes, they would have to if he is to play in England.}

26 Jun 2013 18:56:23
Firstly for those posters that can only riposte by abusing . You people are the muppets.

I am not troll . I've been supporting the LFC since 1976. Yes people 1976! I've seen the glory days, the best players, the trophies, the teams, the managers, the fans and I'm a season ticket holder for countless years.

I will not sit idly by and watch my beloved club be sold down the river nor slip into midtable mediocrity with an inexperienced manager and substandard mercenary players.

Many of you fans have simply accepted that we are doing ok . a team in transition . Give the manager time. will do better soon mentality . It's tosh . We are LFC.,,, you get it . LFC . The club with a worldwide fan base, one of the most successful clubs in the world!

We should not be aspiring to just do better . We should best the top. ,!

We have regressed drastically and unless we buy quality we will regress further . So wake up people and stop being disingenuous to our situation . forget this team in transition mantra and fight for our club.


You want us to be at ithe top . then don't accept mediocrity!

M

I agree with you the first sinsible post all day!

However there are many nitwits on here that don't know their aspe from their elbow never mind football.

G-Man

You need to get a grip mate, yeh we are Lfc, and have struggled for many years. We're not going to attract the big names, and I believe in Rodgers just look at second half of season massive improvement, with what we had! We would of finished 3rd? With players he's bringing in, fit his system and the Spanish are dominating football in all ages!

You need to get out of the 70's and look now. Football has changed and we will be a force again takes time. Kenny bought aload of rubbish and we suffered!

YNWA

How would the OP suggest we fight for the club? FSG or BR out protests? Should we start a petition to get a rich oil magnate to buy us?

Everyone should realize that as fans we can all share opinions about what's going on, but in reality there is very little we can do about it.

I would suggest the OP give the new signings a chance before dismissing them as mediocre. We have had a long list of players that could be described this why when they signed, only to realize their potential. There have also been so called quality players that have failed.

M, if you insist you won't stand by and watch our owners and manager cock things up. Why don't you buy the club? Maybe there's a reason why Fenway can afford the club, because they understand business and business models. And Rodgers is far from inexperienced and clearly has a long term plan and sticks to his principles which is more than can be said for most managers. You shouldn't be allowed a season ticket, I've supported the club longer than you have and remember the reputation we had for 'supporting' owners, managers and players. Give it a rest and give your ticket to someone who will enjoy watching our great club rather than turn up and bitch the whole time

26 Jun 2013 21:02:56
Gloryhunter is the perfect definition.
Fickle and clueless
Go support a plastic club like you want you plastic
Season ticket holder my arse! Haha, that doesn't make you less clueless in any way shape or form.
You're NOT a Liverpool supporter no way. Never
I am sick of you. I'm sick of absolutely clueless liars like you.

So a fan tells the truth and he is a gloryhunter despite seeing Lpool dominate the world? Your the muppet mate.

I've been supporting LFC since 76 too M, problem is mate since we lost that FA semi against Palace in 1990 I don't think we've ever looked the same force since. In a nutshell, we are where we are now because we quite simply haven't won enough football matches in the last 23 years.

Dave Demix

26 Jun 2013 22:12:56
He must be 12 you muppet.Unsupportive muppets. I've seen Liverpool rule the world literally and always support the RED men. The glory will one day return with patience and support. Not fickle glory hunter like you and M you sad clowns. Sick of your likes. Go support a plastic club, you're the definition of fickle gloryhunter

In BR we trust

27 Jun 2013 00:41:15
Hi M

Now, I've only been a supporter of the club since 2000, at which point I was 6 years old. In the 13 years since, I've seen some good players and some bad players. Some good teams and some bad teams.
It may not be the 37 years you've been watching, but in that time, the best striker that we've had (Owen), the best midfielder (Gerrard), the best defender (hyypia) and the best keeper (Reina) are not players we've spent vast amount of money on but players that we've grown into players other teams would do so.
I still remember players like diouf, morientes who were pretty sizeable names at the time, but didn't work out. Even players we spent big for Torres, Suarez, were talented, but not the real deal yet.
We grew them into big names, some of the best in the world. Why should we change that?
If you feel doubtful about aspas, Alberto, mignolet: remember smicer, Luis Garcia, hamann, alonso, arbeloa, agger, dudek (to an extent), Lucas. A group of players that were not well known that will always be remembered by the fans of this club despite cheap prices. Liverpool does not take players. We make players.
P.S in the whole striker thing, in my opinion, Owen was our best in that time (post Fowler) simply because whilst Suarez and Torres went completely missing on bad days, Owen could, and would still get you a goal or two

You've been a supporter since 1976?
You are a new boy then! It doesn't matter how long any of us has supported the team we all want the best for LFC. But the more rational amongst us accepts life as it is rather than how we would like it to be. We entered a downward spiral a long time ago (for a whole variety of reasons) and we are now quite clearly on the way back up. Short
of oil money or East European criminal money, there is no quick fix. We just work away season on season trying/hoping to get improvement. There are a lot of setbacks along the way -it's called life - but we are very clearly seeing improvement . I'm not saying we will win the league next season BUT we are going to get much closer. Either way I will support the club, not blindly, I have my moans and groans too, but I will certainly not start calling the manager or all the players simply because I want instant success.

Puzzled

26 Jun 2013 18:11:36
Hi eds :) I just wanted to ask you whether or not bayer Leverkusen completed the signing of Toby Alderweireld or not? I haven't made my mind up yet if I'd rather have him or Papadopoulous. I think I'd take the big Greek if I'm being honest! Cheers guys! {Ed002's Note - No they haven't.}

26 Jun 2013 18:08:35
Anyone else think getting 50 million for Suarez would be a good deal? Yes he he is an amazing player and goal scorer but he causes the club to much trouble. He gets lengthy bans every season, I think we should use the money to buy extra depth in the squad.

26 Jun 2013 17:51:55
Hi eds, just wondering do you know of any players that Liverpool have a serious interest in? {Ed052's Note - did you really just ask that?}

Yes he does!

26 Jun 2013 21:57:54
Amen!

26 Jun 2013 17:44:41
Hi eds, pals, just out of curiousity, have any of you seen the greek U20 defender?(no.5 I think). This is the kind of big name player we need. This guy makes Papadopoulos sound like Jo. Guys, let's whisper this into BR's ears so that he'll sign him asap.
Cheers guys
A Ghanaian fan

I think you're on to something here, we should be signing Greeks and Thais only for our big names:)

27 Jun 2013 00:40:39
What happened to good old vennegor of hesselink?
He was always around when a big name was needed

26 Jun 2013 17:34:24
Bearing in mind we are looking at around 25m for the Armenian attacking midfielder, do you know if we have shown any interest in Hulk as an option for the right side of our front line? He'd only cost about 5m more (around 30m) and would bring both goals and creativity to the position, as well as some physical presence to the attack. What do you think?

Hhmmmmm. he's not gr8 to start with . plus his wages will be twice the amount, so the 5 mil extra cost is more like 20 mil extra
5 gold stars

Why would you want Hulk he is terrible to big headed

Watching the Brazil game, the only thing Hulk is good at is falling over

Why does everyone say Hulk is rubbish? Didn't he put us out of Europe last year? One chance in front of the Kop and he stuck it in the pokey. Away goal, game's a bogey!

Yet in the same tie, Luis Suarez had four gilt-edge chances for an away goal, and he couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo!

Just saying.

Coyle's Law states.

26 Jun 2013 17:02:15
I've just received a text from a mate. Mickhy seen on the top open deck of the Big Bus Tour, just left Buckingham Palace. He said he was sure it was him wearing a white 'mind the gap' tee shirt, but it was a bit hard to tell as his Madame Tussauds baseball cap was pulled down low.
If he's heading up to Abbey Road (The Beatles and all that), we're on to a winner!
More updates to follow if my mate can keep up, because he said them Boris bikes are a right **** to ride.
The Juicer

Your Wrong Mickey is wearing a white coat and a pink carnation

I'm a London bus driver and just picked him up from kings cross and he got off at camberwell asking how to get to dulwich!

26 Jun 2013 16:37:19
Just been to an appeal hearing for my sons entry to primary school. Sat down and first thing they made clear was that we were being heard by an independent panel! At that point I realised our chances of him getting in were pretty much zero.

Cheers
Greggers

Wait until you get the minutes, it will seem like the minute taker kept falling asleep.

Good luck all the same.

K79

26 Jun 2013 17:09:32
Thanks 4 the info

Suarez connection not lost on me.

26 Jun 2013 16:06:23
Eds and fans, Can we please stop referring to Aspas as a prospect. The man is 25 years old and while he looks to improve depth and do a job I don't see him suddenly turning into a world class forward. There is a reason he has never sniffed the Spanish National team despite all their issues at forward the last few years.

I do have much higher hope for Mignolet and Alberto but if Suarez is sold I think we need more quality than Aspas as a replacement.

The same Spain who beat Italy 4-0 in the euro final? Yea they have major problems with forwards

26 Jun 2013 16:39:44
Actually you're wrong.
Delbosque said Aspas was unlucky not to be in Spain's squad. And his move to Liverpool will increase his chances for a call up as long as he continues his form.
he never left Celta because it's his boyhood club.
Same case as Jesus Navas.
It was just time to take the next step.
Benfica, Valencia, Lazio all wanted him and it's a fact, its even on LFC offical website.
He will prove to be a brilliant signing.

'Hopefully' Aspas will the guy who comes in when Suarez is banned or needs a rest. However, if we do sell the number 7 genius we will surely HAVE to replace him with someone with much more quality than Aspas
DBol

A spas is a brilliant footballer full stop.

Spain's First XI is on another planet its fair enough he hasn't won a cap if he wasnt spanish he would be in the national side

People always make the same mistakes judging players by the size of their transfer fee, coutinho proved that isn’t always the case, it is easy to pick players if your team has 100 millions to spend on transfers, don’t judge new players too early when their have not kicked a ball for their new team yet, even if you can’t support them from the start try and hold your judgement for a bit and our new players at least 5 or 6 games to adapt.
I think all of our new signings will prove to be money well spent.

abbs

Was Suarez admired in the UK as a prolific goal scorer before he was signed by LFC? I seem to remember posts saying that he did ok in Holland but were sceptical how he could perform in the EPL. How they were proved wrong! let's just see how he adapts and then comment hey?

Livern01

Abbs, this has nothing to do with his transfer fee. It has everything to do that he has never even been called up to his national team at any level. For everyone slating Torres (an no I don't want him back) Del Bosque clearly thinks Torres and many others are superior to Aspas judging on whos called up and whos not. I think Aspas will make a good squad player but he's not going to get the team Top 4. We need more proven quality.

26 Jun 2013 16:01:16
Dortmunds turning into Spurs! I used to like Dortmund too. However on the bright side Dortmund have unearthed some gems in the transfer market in the last few years so it is encouraging that we seem to be interested in the same players!

I read on this site people stating we should do it to them but we both need a attacking midfielder so it's expected there not copying us as we never properly wanted Eriksen well not enough to put a offer in

26 Jun 2013 15:32:53
Shaktar has signed fred from internatcionale, and have recieved a 30 mill euro bid on HM, from Dortmund.
Is this true eds?

Dortmund made a 23 million euro bid and Shakhtar want 30.

NDred

26 Jun 2013 15:07:09
Hi eds, any truth to the rumour that were interested in signing richards and sessegnon? {Ed052's Note - no}

26 Jun 2013 15:07:17
Which team Is mickey more likely to sign for?
Us or Dortmund?

Spurs

26 Jun 2013 15:01:00
According to BBC gossip column "Real Madrid have agreed terms with Luis Suarez but will not pay the £40m release clause, as they believe they can get him cheaper." I know that it is journalism but we should investigate these claims of tapping up and report Real to FIFA and get compensation. {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

They are allowed to talk to him if at least the 40 on table. So it's either tapping up or lazy journalism. Weird situation about to happen I feel. {Ed002's Note - No. I have explained what it is.}

Just found what you wrote. So if they go through an agent, it's not tapping up? Really then the tapping up rule is pointless if its as easy as that. {Ed002's Note - That is how business is done. Do you not think that Liverpool talk to agents?}

The source: The Daily Star. This should tell you all you need to know!

Ciario80

I honestly thought even speaking to a players agent was classes as tapping up ed. learn something new every day {Ed002's Note - No, that is how business works.}

26 Jun 2013 14:18:30
Hello Eds,
how many more players do you see us signing?
I would like to see atleast 3 more possibly 4
1. Mkhitryan - For whom we are all waiting :)
2. Papa or Zouma if Skrtel leaves. We should not even think about selling Agger or else it would put a negative spin on the transfer window. He is simply our best defender.
3. A quality right winger to replace Suarez. Would love Alexis Sanchez not too sold on Atsu.
4. A decent LB back-up to enrique.

What do you reckon Ed are all these possible? {Ed002's Note - You need to use the search function.}

Number 1 would be the replacement for suarez as well as the other few we have. I agree with 2 and 4 though

London red

Thats Mickey gone then?

26 Jun 2013 13:41:34
Big fan of this site and read all the posts and I know the eds hate talking about another striker but when suarez does go think we definatley need to bring in someone else I would love to see gomis muriel or benteke? eople talk about micky but he is an attacking mid we need someone else aswell up top for this extra push for top 4!


RED BEAN {Ed052's Note - ffs, please read the answers ive given}

This is asked probably 10 times a day. Why don't people post these replies to the same comments earlier in the day? Scroll down the page before starting the same topic again. The Eds must have knocked a whole housing estate at this stage from banging their heads against the walls with this sh*t

26 Jun 2013 12:54:04
Hi Eds. Just a quick question here. Who do you guys think is in the same mould as our beloved Stevie G in terms of versatility & all rounded gameplay? Cheers.
ZA13 {Ed052's Note - Rossiter}

He's only 16 tho. Is he really rated that highly at such young of an age?

NDred

26 Jun 2013 13:03:13
Does anybody else think Mkhitaryan is a huge risk, not just the inflated fee but he only seems to want to move for the money. I wonder if Shakhtar Donetsk were willing to pay him £100k a week would he want to move at all, plus the fact he hired new agents in order to get the money he feels he's due, whatever that means. Yes he's young and has a lot of potential but for that fee surely there are better options. Over the years Liverpool have spent big a failed with the likes of Aquilani, Carroll and even Diouf to name a few I just hope we get it right this time.

always a red

26 Jun 2013 12:32:53
Hi eds,

I was just reading an article during my lunch break about wanyama and he's agents and their fees and was wandering if they still get a fee if a player agrees a new contract. Or do they only get a fee or a larger fee when a player is sold. This might explain why so many agents offer their players to various clubs even though some players are content to stay where they are.

Thanks, {Ed002's Note - It depends. If they negotiate a new contract they will get a payment. Some are on retainers from the players. As you imply, they will get more by being part of a transfer.}

26 Jun 2013 12:28:30
Sunderland supporter here congratulations on signing the best goalkeeper in the premier lge (fact topped nearly ever stat and even hart says he was the best keeper I know de gea was given the Pfa award (farce) but now mignolet will be given a lot more tv exposure the rest of the country will now realise this that even if you's end up paying the full 12m that it was a steal at the price good luck on your new venture simon and you will be sorely missed

Really! A sunderland fan? hhmmm!

26 Jun 2013 12:22:57
Hi Eds, I am sure I speak on behalf of everyone when I say great job you are all doing.

A question for you, I still think we will sign HM, and I believe Saurez is going. Where do you see the Saurez money being spent? Will we buy another striker? looking at the forwards bought so far I don't believe any are traditional penalty box centre forwards are they?

Thanks, {Ed052's Note - weve answered this many times over}

26 jun 2013 12:10:19
right eds i think these hm in london hotel are photoshoped there's been so many rumours

Maybe from when they played Chelsea ha

26 Jun 2013 11:14:01
Hai. This isn't a Liverpool related Post.
I wonder at 60 mill what does cavani offer?. he is not the fan fav. neither he is going to overtake ronaldo or ozil or even alnoso at madrid.
No ways Real would pay that amount for any striker who would not add any income to the club.
any striker would score 20+ goals at barca or madrid.
common. you are being at the best club in the world with 4-5 superstars behind you. all you need is to tap in from the ball you get from ronaldo, alonso, ozil, bale, modric, .
bale is theor target. and they would splash the money, suarez too is a cheaper options, because he bring so much headlines to the team.
lets face it. madrid wouldn't mind to be the best team in fair play. let's forget it.
they need money, fame. deals. more revenues.
suarez would get that. he is already a world known guy better than cavani.

Ed. my question. its been years, barca and real players.blabbers their mouth on their potential targtes. ex. modric, fabrigas, suarez bale etc.
y no action.? {Ed002's Note - It has always been a difficult area where players are having their say.}

26 Jun 2013 14:21:12
Harry, bale will be staying at spurs for the next season at least

26 Jun 2013 15:28:32
depends on ronaldo situation. If he remains at real. then they would not bid for bale, probably next seoasn, But cavani is guaranteed. or else its suarez.

26 Jun 2013 11:32:09
Are we looking at signing a strong holding midfielder cause at moment we are looking a very small team and a lot of our problems last season came from set pieces.

26 Jun 2013 11:31:21
clubs can show Interest all they want but if there isn't a will by Liverpool to sell luis suarez then surely he stays at least another season? LFC need to be like Manchester United in this regard and sell players when it suits them.
Jimbo.

26 Jun 2013 11:26:40
Are those pictures on the of HM on the Internet true ed your probably about the only people I believe.sorry if u have already been asked {Ed002's Note - I heard talk that he had a white shirt on under his jacket. Joining Leeds perhaps?}

26 Jun 2013 11:23:47
As reguards players coming and going i'm pleased to see the clubs business is being done early this season, hopefully not repeating last years mistake of starting the season with only 2 strikers.

Any news on the stadium redevelpment? As I believe this is the most important and biggest problem facing the club at the moment?

Basil

26 Jun 2013 11:19:20
This Mkhitaryan fella seems to be very unprofessional the way he is behaving. We are quick enough to laugh at how Tevez behaved and some seem to have even turned on Suarez his actions. Same hypocrites will be wanting Mkhitaryan to come in but unless I'm overreacting its not for me.

26 Jun 2013 11:24:17
At 30 mill euros. He isn't welcomed for me.
yes he is a good player. But he had only one goal in Cl. and he would have enormous pressure at Liverpool coz, he is the signing of he seaosn.
Errikson at 12 mill would be a steal.
or honda for 0 mill

Honda isn't free FFS.

always a red

I agree with that guy ^^^^^

Harry, your posts are usually ridiculous but on this one I 100% agree with you. Robbie

Honda will be free in jan, which i'm sure means he can sign a pre contract from july onwards

26 Jun 2013 11:00:09
I hope for Brendans sake these players we have signed are up to scratch, I personally have not heard much about them (apart from Mignolet and I think Toure is past it) and other clubs have not been chasing them - so are they good enough for the Premiership?

Athletico Madrid, Valencia, Napoli, Tottenham and Swansea were all linked with Iago Aspas before he signed for Liverpool.

Arsenal wanted mignolet pal gala wanted toure so ain't to shabby if you ask me

26 Jun 2013 11:28:28
Athletico Madrid, Valencia, Napoli, Tottenham and Swansea were all linked with Iago Aspas before he signed for Liverpool.

Rubbish. absolute rubbbish. Reading and chelsea had an interest in the january window. simple.

No valencia and athletico "had interest" also. as balague said and I deem him a better judge than you in regards of spanish talent, aspas is a shrewd move!
5 gold stars

Harry he was and has been linked with those other clubs.

Arsenal never had an interest in Mignolet. They want an experienced keeper to guide and rival Szczesny.

I have to agree with harry! He is spot on

Does it matter he's at LFC now for better or worse

26 Jun 2013 10:53:53
So happy tonight that we have signed Simon Mingolet, we have finally addressed the goalkeeping issues we have had. Also if Reina does stay, I believe the competition will improve his game

26 Jun 2013 10:38:29
if fenerbache are banned from champions league next season, and an english club is to be given their spot, wouldn't it be Tottenham? Or am I missing something?

An English club wouldn't get the spot anyway its completely ridiculous that people would believe such a crazy rumour

26 Jun 2013 10:16:29
Mkhitaryan seen in London this morning.
http://i.imgur.com/uBSB3gE.jpg

Isnt that ross off friends?

haha. love the transfer window

Pk

26 Jun 2013 12:48:31
Well no-one told him life was going to be this way.

26 Jun 2013 10:04:19
Any updates on atsu? {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it.}

26 Jun 2013 09:59:48
A question to the eds.How is rafinha playin for brazil U20 while his brother thiago alcantara plays for the spainU21 {Ed002's Note - I have one daughter born in the United States and one in England. It is not that hard to figure out.}

Kevin-Prince Boateng plays for Ghana while his brother Jerome Boateng plays for Germany.

Dual Nationalities dude.

The real AG

They have a Brazilian father (World Cup '94 winner Mauzinho), a Portuguese mother and were born and raised in Spain.

Is rafinha any good?

26 Jun 2013 09:47:55
1.) Attacking wingers? You mean as opposed to Defensive winger?

Gerrard, Allen, Hederson and Lucas are all central midfield players. And we play with 2 midfielders most times, so why add to it?

The real AG

(ok Thanks)

26 Jun 2013 09:42:53
First time poster

Any knowledge or thoughts on Micky not returning for training - good news for us?

26 Jun 2013 09:39:57
LFC final talks
According to our sources that Liverpool football club officials will hold further talks today with Shakhtar Donetsk regarding Henrikh Mkhitaryan, the player himself wishes to leave his current club this summer and test himself at an higher level. We believe Liverpool football club officials are in Ukraine today for final set of talks to overcome the issues that are holding up the transfer. According to reports this morning that Borussia Dortmund also will submit a bid for the player, Liverpool football club are hoping to close the deal by the weekend

26 Jun 2013 09:27:56
Am I the only one who feels that IF Real Madrid indeed comes in for Suarez then we insist on getting Varane as part of the deal? Could solve our CB problems now and for the future. Would make losing Suarez worth it. I'm not going to talk numbers but obviously some cash would be involved too. Thoughts everyone?
Fitz
Jamaica

I'd defo take that deal

Never going to include him in any deal for anyone. They rate him far too highly

26 Jun 2013 12:52:58
Question, why would he come to us?
I mean, he is at real Madrid, and will be starting every game for them within the next season or two. He has no real reason to do so

My thoughts are no chance. Neither Varane or Madrid would consider that. Highly rated there and will be a first team starter there for the long-term.

If not varane what about the Spanish cb? albiol I think he's called, we were linked to him b4

26 Jun 2013 06:52:46
Hi eds what's the latest with mhkitaryan? Watched a few vids of this lad and he looks a player. Can U tell me if u think there will b more signings to come? And who do u fancy bein brought in? doing a great job guys! YNWA {Ed052's Note - there will be more signings. There is no latest on Mickey, its down to the fee now}

26 Jun 2013 09:26:38
Well the fact that he appears to have gone awol or on strike would suggest he's of questionabel morals, so is no longer a player we should be looking at, well with the moral code being what it is on here, we shouldn't buy a player who is behaving worse than suarez is to get a move to a bigger club now should we, or is it ok when he's coming to us?

Waro

26 Jun 2013 10:11:19
To be fair Waro don't normally agree with much you post, now I know you are being ironic but I agree with what your saying.

Mike S

He is behaving in a questionable fashion but he's not in the press trying to get away from his club nor is he biting anyone so you can't say he's behaving worse than Suarez waro


Nevada

26 Jun 2013 12:17:50
Nevada, your a quite well balanced poster, so come on, you know what i'm getting at, if suarez refused to turn up at a training camp regardless of what he has said to the press he would be hung out to dry just as much or more than he is now, your nit picking nevada and I didn't think you were like that tbh. My point is, its ok to behave badly to get a move as long as it suits us, you can't have it both ways.

You object to that kind of behaviour or you dont.

Waro

Spot on Waro

26 Jun 2013 15:45:41
life isn't as black and white as your making it out to be waro. there are many variables which makes the situation different. suarez has the reputation. hk doesnt. and as of now nobody apart from him knows what is going on. so until the truth is brought out there isn't a right or wrong

calum red

26 Jun 2013 08:09:51
In the picture where Mignolet was signing his contract, Ian Ayre wasn't there! Could he be in Portugal or Ukraine?

26 Jun 2013 07:52:32
Anyone know who we are looking at next is it still Mickey or have we turned our focus on a new CB and getting rid of a few players

I think that there will certainly be a push to tie up the Mkhitaryan deal as soon as possible.

26 Jun 2013 04:13:53
Saw Mickey earlier handing out flyers at Disneyworld. Could be a smokescreen?

Was he with Mini?

Fowlers Nostril

26 Jun 2013 03:13:39
Just curious, with Falcao, Cavani, Bale, Neymar etc, all expecting to be sold/bought for $50+ million, how is it that Luis Suarez, who in my humble opinion, is one of the top footballers on the planet, is only being expected to reach around $40 million?

He only plays three quarters of all matches due to bad behavior. Anyhow, how are you ITK regards this apparently 'low figure'?

26 Jun 2013 02:06:00
Unbelievable start to our transfer business! I'm particularly looking forward to competition between goal keepers (provided reina stays - even if he leaves I'm more than happy with his replacement!). I don't know much about alberto but BR knows more about football than I ever will so I trust his judgement! with aspas probably replacing downing, and hendo playing well, and sturridge and coutinho proving to be great signing, the team is now very solid. I've accepted that suarez will leave, and I would love to see the money spent on HM and papadopolous - two fantastic players that will walk into the first team. Spending on a top defender is essential in an attempt to replace carra. Any money left from the suarez transfer, plus the sales of players like Skrtel, I'd like to see invested in lamela, however unlikely! I can't believe some of the negativity so far concerning transfers. From Jan on we played some sublime football, even without Suarez! keep up the good work eds. Highly appreciated! Rab

Lovin this post rab, we're on same page mate, can't wait to see who's next and how we play this season!!! Ynwa J496

26 Jun 2013 01:08:09
Might seem like a pointless question but has anyone heard of squad numbers for the new boys? I know none of them will officially be players until the 1st but I'd have thought the club would want to start selling shirts sooner rather than later?

I'm guessing you have forgotten about what happened with Robinho and Chelsea mate. I wouldn't expect the club to start selling shirts until the players are registered with the FA

26 Jun 2013 01:05:09
Red Dave {Ed002's Note - And we are sick of jerks like you complaining constantly "Dave". If we copy and paste the same answer over and over again like you want, then others complain about that. Whatever we do there will be grizzling and whining.}

26 Jun 2013 00:03:22
Hmmm signing another young squad player . Think it's high time we actually bought some quality experienced players, not young bucks still learning the game.

Get real people -we won't get anywhere just signing 'future talent' . Who remembers Bruno Cheyrou the 'new ZIdane'.more like a daisy on skates and where did he end up!

We are gong to slip down the table. Everyone knows we were poor last season.

As for Luis, well who can blame him if he wants to leave . If you actually believe the gutter anti Liverpool press.

You same supporters were cheering his name to high heaven only a few weeks yet know you throw rocks and castigate him for wanting to move on.

You anti Suarez lot are a disgrace, because ultimately without him last season we would've been even lower in the League.

Now I don't particularly care if he stays or goes providing we get adequate funds for him to buy more quality players - he is simply an employee of the club anyway - just as all the players are.

FSG put loads of money into the club and overpaid for average players .

They now need to take stock . BR is not the man to bring success back . maybe look at the man who has just left BM. Jupp Heynckes!

M

Totally respect your opinion, but also totally don't get the main point.

1) We haven't got the attraction of CL football, so a lot of the established names won't come to us anyway, unless we pay massively over the odds and ridiculous wages, which FSG won;t (and shouldn't) do.

2) The way BR is building the team, its being built as a 'sum of parts' rather than a collection of gallaticos. We need players to perform certain roles within the team, which may not necessarily correspond with the latest 'hot thing'. In 1 season, I've seen enough of BR's style of play to a) like it, its a lot more entertaining than the recent past (i.e. 10 years or so) and b) have seen enough progress in the 2nd half of the season to want to give BR more time. It would be crazy to think that a team could change its playing style and philosophy at the start of a season and immediately gel - not least as the majority of the players on the books were bought to play a different style and not everyone can adapt!

3) Connected to (2) above, but if a team 'took stock' every season and brought in a new manager immediately having only given the last one less than a year, then it's not exactly either the Liverpool way, or a particularly stable platform! Pretty sure FSG wouldn't be sactioning 8 figure + pay offs for 'failing' managers every year a la Abrahamovic.

Anyway, to end with agreement rather than conflict, I do agree that the Suarez haters who have appeared of late need to think hard about what they believe in. He's still a Liverpool player, I would still prefer him to remain for the simple reason that I think we are a better team with him than without him. He isn't god's gift to PR or a shining example of humanity, but we pay him to give us goals and he does that.

Reality to M, come down from the edge of the ledge, kay fella, FSG aren't sacking Rodgers, not at least until December/January time when they have a secret lunch with whichever manager is doing half decent at that time, Ancelotti last time apparently.

"Another young squad player" Who? Surely you don't mean Mignolet, who is no. 1 at Sunderland and 13 caps for Belgium?

Jupp Heynckes has quit coaching and retired.

Who's throwing rocks at Suarez? We have given him more support than any other player at LFC. We stood by him through his ban and antics, and now he says he's had enough of the abuse and wants to leave. and you want us to keep quiet?

Overpaid for average players? Sturridge (12 mil proven striker) Coutinho (6 mil bargain of the century)

You, sir, are a clueless ni-M-rod

I could just reply with the word "NO" but I'm feeling generous so will give you some justification:
1) Kolo Toure is not a young buck, he is a very experienced multi-premiership winner.
2) Messi was signed as young talent, Rooney was signed as young talent, Neymar is young talent. Just because they are young does not mean they won't make it.
3) we are not going to "slip down the table", where is your evidence? We are on an upward curve and our form is good.
4) not one LFC fan has criticised Suarez for wanting to leave, he deserves to be playing at the highest level.
He has received criticism for the sneaky underhand way he has gone about trying to engineer a move. If he wants to leave, be honest, put in a transfer request and say goodbye. Don't blamed the press or the FA etc.
5) Rodgers is the manager. Deal with it because it will not be changing any time soon.

We were top 4 standards from january last season (coutinho and studge arrivalsP and these players to the mix plus mkh etc and we should easily be challenging for 3rd

So you want rid of coutinho and studge then? and you want a dinosaur to build our future?

sorry M but you are truely clueless is embarassing

Opta Stats: Liverpool would've finished 7th in the table with or without Suarez's goal contributions.
You're a disgrace for thinking he can run Liverpool's name through the mud.
Yes, weeks ago everyone was praising him but that was before he broke our trust and toyed with us. So you are the disgrace. Use some logic and try and find some sort of proof because we actually improved last season.

We have neither the money or the lure of CL football to draw in the top, experienced players - I think our transfer policy so far is spot on.

Suarez keeps talking to the press about wanting to move to Real. We've supported him through each one of his indiscretions - it is highly disrespectful to the club and to us as fans to be talking about wanting to move to another team whilst still under contract, fans have every right to be disgruntled with him.

FSG's policy is the right one for the club at this time. They got it wrong before and it seems they have finally learnt from their mistakes - kudos to FSG and Rogers.

Rogers is doing a good job, i'm looking forward to next season, give him time for gods sake.


Gratis

I don't think people are too upset that Suarez wants to leave. It is more to do with how unprofessionally he has sought his move to Madrid - whoring in the media and mouthing off before even speaking to the club, all so he doesn't lose his "loyalty" bonus.

Everyone cheered him as a player - of course! People are not saying he is a bad player, just that he is acting selfishly and unprofessionally.

So I suggest you try to comprehend what people are saying before you have a go at them.

Posts like yours really annoy me. Don't take your frustrations with the club out on posters on here who are sharing an opinion on how they feel.

M you are a proper tool.you don't deserve to be a Liverpool supporter.

Your a person! Rogers is prolly the best manager left in the prem right now. For years Liverpool have been crying out for a manager to bring in pace and flair, I know I've been wanting it for years. If sturridge can keep himself fit he'll bang in 25+ this season, and don't forget Suarez will be sold and his money reinvested in the squad. I see our team being better this year than last.

26 Jun 2013 05:57:10
We were poor last season? Go get glasses you fool! We played the best football we have for years, scored the most goals we have for YEARS,
You must be blind.
I can't believe you are a Liverpool supporter for one bit! Mignolet is probably one of the best goalskeepers around at the moment and can only improve his big potential. You are so clueless and clearly a wind up merchant.
Personally I am delighted with our signings so far, specially considering who they are replacing. (Shelvy, Downing, Carra, Jones). Squad is already much looking much better than last season's.
You're just a miserable utter clueless door Knob who don't understand nothing. Get a life.

In buck I trust.

[The only REDS]

Heynckes has already said he has no plans to return to management.

There is soo much wrong about your post! Your digs are pathetic and embarrassing.

Mignolet is not young, is 25 and has 13 international caps for Belgium and has made over 100 caps for Sunderland. He won't be a squad player and will be the starting 'keeper next season.

You want to sack BR and replace him with Heynckes? The same Heynckes who has retired? Again, embarrassing.

All the other points again make you look like an embarrassing, pathetic person.

The real AG

26 Jun 2013 07:37:52
Utter utter tosh and nonsense.
We should get real? You should get a life.
how is 25 year old full international a young squad player? What a wonker. If you think any other manager would have done better with our crap squad you're deluded. you probably are a bitter. That's why you're deluded.

In BR we trust

26 Jun 2013 07:43:44
Most definitely the worst post ever.
Without suarez, exactly the same place. 7th. The year before 8th. Wigan won a title so did swansea. Hmm, I don't know what you are, but this post can't be from a sane person.
Go support the bitters. Oh am sorry you already do.
Then this posts makes more sence

26 Jun 2013 07:47:30
Troll alert.
M stands for the 'misery of a bitter'

Welcome to Anfield Mignolet:)
Welcome to Anfield Aspas:)
Welcome to Anfield Toure:)
Welcome to Anfield Alberto:)

I only see 1 young squad player, are you blind?

Sorry fella. I don't agree with that.
However, still some interesting points made.

26 Jun 2013 07:48:35
What a tit! Tell me did dortmund buy these experienced players? Think the most expensive player they bought was reus at £15m ish. All young players with potential at first. Now don't get me wrong this tactic can go horribly wrong (I.e villa) but its all down to the eye for talent that both the manager and scouts have. Coutinho proves that our current setup can spot them!

as for suarez - the sooner he's gone the better - the guy is magic with the ball at his feet but he's a complete tool!

I personally am very optimistic about this new squad we are assembling and think Rodgers is definitely the man fir the job if given time.

I sometimes wonder if some of you guys actually know what it means to support a club - grab yourselves a dictionary a look at what the word means. Ynwa is what the club is all about - the club will never work alone whilst I support them no matter where we are in the league!

Alan Hansen - You don't win anything with kids! .


Suarez is disrespectful, crazy and a person he deserves his stick and should be sold

your other comments aren't even worth discussing

26 Jun 2013 07:55:11
Worst post in the history of posts.
So much wrong and fantasy it's actually Sad.
Bayern have reached the CL final 3 out of the last 4 times. Maybe you should get your head out of your arse, but I fear its stuck.
How clueless are you? we haven't been in the CL for 5 years. Hardly and impossibly BR's blame you Knob.

What a pathetic post. You think success can be reaped instantly after years of falling behind the major teams. BR is the way to go and the seeds of an assured regeneration have been sown and BR will bring the glory days back.You think buying the money mongers will bring instant success? Think again.

Mos

The level of negativity in this post is actually disturbing!
For once just behind the manager, trust him and let him do his God damn job!

Have been saying BR is not the man to take us Forward since day 1 of his reign.

BR's certainly appears to be a "yes" man!

Have disliked Suarez since shortly after he joined the club he ain't somebody to glorify, cheating does not bring good luck to anyone. Remember our old friend Karma!

Of course the players BR has signed so far are unlikely to make much of an impact quickly (if at all) with the exception of Simon M.

We better get Mickey or some player of his quality and a few others like him to push on otherwise it will be another year of transition.

Although I am sure FSG will give BR how ever many years of transition he wants!

BR progress from Kenny what a joke, we are going backwards just like the Williams Formula 1 team has done yet Frank Williams keeps telling everyone who will listen next year, next year, next year, next, next year, next year, next next year, next year, next year, next year, next year, next year, etc. starting to sound too familar?

And Top 4 is not the be all and end all its no good qualifying for the champions league if you can't compete in it!

Many teams qualify for the champions league from Ireland, Turkey, Denmark etc. with no relaistic chance of ever taking the trophy.

No long term Strategy in place LFC are chasing short term goals with transitional results.

The G-Man

M for Misery with yet another wrist-slitting perspective of our club. I bet after the 2005 final he was moaning about Dudek letting 3 past him

cozinoz

26 Jun 2013 11:54:57
And the G man is even more clueless, has Br been manager for 12 years?wow didn't know that.

Yes BR is a huge upgrade on king kenny, no doubt about it you tool. Yes man? Again a complete LIE and made up BS.
We have 10 more points and 30 more goals than with kk with a squad with 10 less players and 1 more competition, we've played the best football since the early 80's. if you start talking about a cup then you better go support wigan or swansea you person. Anyone knows we have made a huge progress football wise you headless chicken and you can't possibly be a Liverpool supporter.
In BR we trust

[The only REDS]

Speaking of Dudek in 2005; we replaced him in the first team with a 22 year old goalkeeper called Jose 'Pepe' Reina.

Such delusional posters here

Funny when someone can take the truth they resort to abuse!

G-Man

25 Jun 2013 23:38:12
Please excuse my ignorance, but how are Liverpool and other clubs signing players before the transfer window officially opens

They're not. They're getting transfers lined up, agreements in place in principle with clubs, players and representatives to get a march on other potential suitors. The paperwork is then ratified once the window opens on 1st July.

More sensible doing it this way as a) you don;t get sting by panic buys and b) the new players have more of the pre-season to settle in with their new team mates.

If papers were strictly honest, they would say that a transfer has been agreed in principle rather than blaring out headlines about "XYZ signs for Team A", as XYZ can't sign officially for the next few days. But when did honesty go hand in hand with reporting, eh?

It's all signings in principle mate. They can't be registered with the FA until 12.00pm on the 1st of July. All deals could still hypothetically fall through

With the signings before July 1st it basically means everything is agreed, (transfer fee, personal terms, usually medical), just the final transfer paperwork has to be submitted to the relevant FA's and FIFA/UEFA I'd imagine, for which the window opens on July 1st.

Hope this helps you,

The A man.

Any club can agree a transfer of any player with any other club on any day of the year.
They cannot register the player to play in competitive matches outside of a transfer window.
The new players will not be registered as LFC players with the FA before July 1st but they can train and receive wages any time.

Not officially registered until Jul. 1, but deal is agreed between player and clubs

Its an agreement in place technically they won't join untill 1/7/2013 where the player will move

Players can be signed up just documents can't be officially lodged with the relevant authorities.

25 Jun 2013 23:28:50
nice to see lfc doing their business quickly and efficiently